WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: We Got Insight 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:11.600 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:23.720 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Blowing out of the backfield, 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:29.000 next flooding down the sidelines. This He's Hanging with the Boys, 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:33.360 presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:45.600 your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Thursday, 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:50.200 eleven thirty am Central Time. That can mean only one thing. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.960 Let's go program of the week. The month of the 0:00:55.080 --> 0:01:00.920 year is live. They live. Look at I don't know 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:02.880 what's going on my ear, but there's a lot of 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:07.319 look at the Tostitos Championship Plaza and Ford Center in Frisco. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.600 It is a nice fifty nine degrees. It is going 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:12.960 to be a high of sixty today to be a 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.840 low of thirty nine tonight. It's a beautiful drop. As 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.639 a man, it is dropping. It's gonna get cold tonight 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.560 later on this week. But fellas Nate Newton, Jesse Holly, 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.520 Kurt Damiels joining me, Shandon Cross, how are you guys doing? 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:28.760 It feels like it's been two months since we've been together. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.440 I know, man, I'm great. I'm doing well. Man. Good 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:36.240 to see you guys. Wow. Wow. Wow. That's all I 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:40.200 can say is wow, man, I'm excited. Man, Let me 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.960 tell you why. Can I tell you why I'm excited? Please? Please? Yes, 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.640 tell us why it seems man, Because when I get 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.720 off this air, all I know is that on the web, 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:56.960 I'm going. But I'm going. So I like you. I 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:01.160 like your shirt there, you're supporting, you support Jackson. Stay there, Nate. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.440 Like what I've been in the last three weeks. I've 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:09.920 been there six times. You're on You're on the payroll yet? 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.959 Oh nah? Man, Oh no. If I love y'all, show 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.960 up for you, baby. If I love y'all, show up 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.040 for you. Don't want the press I get that payroll 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:26.520 from but I still love it. Jerry, you, how you been? Jesse? 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.679 You doing good? You look good? I'm good, man, I'm good. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.040 My skin is looking good. I'm flourishing in life and 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:37.399 everything's great. Man. My hairs, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.560 I got a little bruise. I got a little bruise 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.640 on my arm right there. Man. I was like, girl, 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:47.160 do get a little fishes. You gotta get listen, you 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.519 gotta get physical. And the trailer park sometimes, you know, 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.600 what I'm saying, you can't come to the trailer park 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.840 half stepping back sometimes to get little think girls. You 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:56.919 gotta when you lift them up sometimes. You know what 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:01.600 I'm saying, You gotta come with that, you know, you know, 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:07.040 like a workout, workout in the trailer park, man, Curtis, Chris, 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:14.440 you marriage what you do, Chris Beanthorn, he's covering his bruises. 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.600 That's a that's a war. That's a wars. All bruises, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.720 that's a that's those virtual bruises. Kurt, How you doing, man? Good? 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.239 I'm doing real good. Yeah, Yeah, feeling good. Feeling good, Yeah, 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.600 looking good. You've been working out, Curtis, you just looked 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:36.160 that well, well, you know it's all just looks. I 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:41.600 sure don't work out enough. Oh. A lot of stuff, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.880 a lot of stuff going on in the NFL. The 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.320 last week, you got the Super Bowls coming up. Uh, 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.680 we'll get everybody's thoughts on that. Let's just get into 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:56.960 did we talk about this last week? Matthew Stafford? Well, 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:01.200 Matthew gone, okay, let's talk about I like how the 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.920 Rams did that? Man? I love I love what the 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.760 Rams did. I really well, this is this is gonna 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:09.960 make for a great debate because I hate what the 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:15.960 Rams did. Good, Jesse, that was my first thoughts. But 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.720 this is this leads right back to the Cowboys. They 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.800 say we made a mistake in Jared Golf. The head 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.560 coach went to ownership and to Jim say, y'all feeling 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.160 what I'm feeling. And they say yeah. They say, well, 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:30.920 how much are we gonna pay to get this dude 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.880 out of here? You're gonna get your two number ones 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.279 and we're gonna pay part of it, Sarah, but he 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.080 got the goal. We have a team that's ready to go. 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.000 We have a team that we think can take us 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.080 to the next level. And Jared Golf ain't it. And 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.400 so when you think that way, yeah, you're gonna take 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.599 a big hit and a big loss. And I'm not 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.239 saying Stafford is to due all be all, but we've 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:56.080 never seen him in optimal conditions. He is in optical 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.679 conditions with the great I think, the great officer minded coach, 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.520 a solid defensive team behind it that can make plays. 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.960 It seems ready. Jesse's tell me why they made the 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.839 wrong move. And here's my one. I think they gave 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.480 up way too much. You gave up way too much 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.560 to assume to be and I think in the next 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.440 couple of days he'll bet four thirty four years old. Right, 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.320 So you got to older quarterback, often injured. I get it. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:27.080 Took a beating in Detroit. The thing that really got 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:32.320 me was even when Matthew Stafford was at his optimal best, 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.960 when he was clicking on all cylinder cylinders, the Lions 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.720 still were bad. Yeah, but that was a bad football team. 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.719 But that wasn't his fault though. There was a guys 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.520 around him. Now he's got better guys. You had Megatron 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.440 at one point in time, you had you had decent 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.200 teams where you had some really good players around you, 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.960 and you still were really, really bad. You went and 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.040 got Matthew Stafford to give yourself an opportunity to go 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:00.400 back to the super Bowl, a place where Matthew's Stafford 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.120 has never been. He's never been to the playoffs. He 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.040 doesn't know what it feels like they're being a playoff. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.840 He doesn't have playoff pedigree, he doesn't have any of that. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.200 What you need that guy to take the next step. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.120 And this isn't a guy that you're gonna have for 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.560 the next six or seven years. This is a rental. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.320 You're gonna have Matt Stafford form maybe the next two 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.120 or three years at best. And I know we see 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.640 Brees and we see Brady and those guys planning all 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:27.120 to their forties. Those guys are more of the the exception, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.719 not the rule. You're not gonna have a bunch of 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.840 guys playing into their forties at the way you see 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.560 Tom Brady and Drew Brees and and guys like that. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:41.080 That that's not going to happen. That's not that's that's unrealistic. 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.080 So for me, I think you gave up a ton 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.880 to go get a guy who you really don't know, 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.880 because this is I probably like when they did this deal, 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.000 whatever God they believe in, they did a whole lot 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:58.080 of praying because Sean McVay, you're now tied to draft 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.680 things Jared Golf and O kame him getting a contract 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.080 extension and did not work out like that. That's the 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.239 thing that people are missing. Yeah, you're getting Matt Stafford, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:11.560 the foot, the guy who y'all named boy genius. He 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.680 signed off on this, He signed off on, Yes, let's 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:19.280 get Jared Golf a lengthy, expensive extension. After they went 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.520 to the Super Bowl. So in his heart of hearts, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.880 he thought, at one time this is our guy. There 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:26.960 was no reservation because he say, wow, hold on, we 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.000 still got him on the contract. Let's just see this 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.600 thing play out a little bit more. And they didn't. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.559 They rushed to judgment, gave him a boatload of money 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.120 and then it didn't work out for him on the 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.840 back end. And so now for Sean McVeigh is if 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.880 this doesn't work out immediately, might I ask or might 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.320 I add? Because you're not gonna have time for this thing. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.360 This is a right now move. That was a right 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.520 now move to get Matt to staffer there. If this 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.160 doesn't work out right now for you, this could be 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:57.400 your job. Now we see how guys who sniffed farts 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.920 of Sean McVeigh get jobs football league. I don't think 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.600 you'll have a problem getting another job. But you gave 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.840 up a whole lot for god that does that doesn't 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:11.680 have any playoff experience. Oh, by the way, he might 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.320 not even be might not He's not the best quarterback 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.520 in your division. And there's arguments that he might not 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.000 be the second best quarterback in your division. There's something 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.880 that say that Colin Murray might be better than Matthew Stafford. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.040 So you brought a guy in and even in your 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:33.280 own division, even in your own division, and and God 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.880 forbid that if San Fran gets to Seawan Watson, Matthew 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:40.920 Stafford drops down even more in your division. So you 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:49.240 hold him though, But genius got it. Yeah, I hope 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.280 Sean mcvayh is calling you to offer up some prayer 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:58.160 to your God. To you, yes, sir, so you pray. Yes, 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.360 I'm not prayer I gotta do. I'm not bringing that 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:07.440 gospel that ain't told me. Yeah, what do you what 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.040 do you think about the Rams philosophy? Though they haven't 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.120 they haven't had a first round pick since twenty sixteen, 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:14.760 and now they're not gonna have a first round pick 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.520 till like twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, something like that. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.520 They obviously don't place as much value on them as 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.800 maybe and they'd rather use those picks for guys they 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.640 know have some pedigree to them. What do you think 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.440 about that philosophy situation? Yeah? What you said, they're in 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:34.280 the now. They they are gonna you will see a 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.959 drastic change if this thing fall apart at the seams. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.199 You will see a drastic change in twenty twenty three. 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.120 They'll keep that first round pick and they'll start to rebuild. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.439 But when you're in the now, you don't waste any time. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.720 They're in a market as much different. Dallas owned this market, 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.840 this area thanks to the Texans not being anything. Dallas 0:09:55.920 --> 0:10:01.160 still owns Texas La. Rams don't own to stay of California. 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.040 It's too many things going on. If you don't stay 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.199 in and now you will float to the end and 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.679 your your your public when it does be able to 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.719 come back in the stadium won't show up. California's got 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.800 too many things going That's a great point that Now, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.120 that is a point that I will agree with you 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:21.120 wholeheartedly right there. And yeah, that's a great point, Nate. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.439 That's a that's a great point. You have to go out. 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:30.120 Thank you, that's said. That's great. Kind I kind of 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.160 admire the Rams going for it. They've they've realized that, 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:34.920 you know, they got to enter Aaron Donald, they got 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.559 Ramsey on defense. This is their opportunity. Yeah, and so 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.400 you know, I kind of admire they're like, we're all in. 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.440 They put all their chips on the table. We're going 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.319 for it. Right now, even who cares what happens two 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.880 years from now. They want to win now. But it 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.199 also makes me wonder did the Cowboys miss their opportunity 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.600 to go in on all in twenty sixteen. They were 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.360 thirteen and three, they had two young studs and sin 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.280 it's been kind of a disappointment, and so on flip side, 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.240 I kind of wish maybe the Cowboys had a little 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.080 bit of that gambling latitude, which is surprising because mister 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:14.000 Jones is a gambler. But we do it. We used to, man, 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.720 we used to go all in. But it has changed 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:21.359 now that the climate has changed. I mean, we're conservative, 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.600 you know we uh, that's just who we are now. 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:27.040 And you know, we did a show the other day yesterday, man, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.240 and I'm trying to protect players and stumbling all over 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.040 the deal. And at the end, man, it just dawned 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.840 on me. At the end. We always continue to complain 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.080 during the season. Here we are in the off season, 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:40.920 and a few guys came to me said, Nate, you 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.560 know you keep saying we're gonna switch the offense. And 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.160 a lot of guys at the end of the show, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.880 the access were we far away and both guys that 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.800 were on that show said yeah, with a few offensive pieces, 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.520 with a few this, few of that, And I'm saying 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:57.520 to myself, here we go again. I disagree we have 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.480 no defense and expect to go to the playoffs and 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:05.079 have a true realistic chance at at the play at 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.840 the playoffs, we're talking super Bowl and don't have a defense. 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.240 All right, Yeah, they need to go all in, Kurt. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.000 To answer your questions, Shannon, Nate just set you up 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.000 for a great transition to one of the questions that 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.640 Kurt put in the text. I want to see if 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.720 you pick this thing up and transition to it. Let's go. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:27.199 I haven't even been listening to y'all the last ten minutes. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.199 Let me, let me, let me tradistion this thing. You know, Nate, 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.480 you brought up a great point about how far the 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:43.280 Cowboys are away from truly competing, whether that be offensive defensively. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.120 Kurt put in the notes early on, there's an article 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:51.199 out and they list tiers of teams and where they're 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.400 at right and they're like, you know, this team is 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.320 regular to win right now. This team is a year away, 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.360 this team is two years away, this team is like 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.640 two plus years away, and I believe the Cowboys were 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.400 in the category, correct me if I'm wrong, or being 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.320 two plus years away. Now they ESPN had him at 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:12.400 two years away, later Report had him in one year away, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.720 and both said they needed to sign Dack, stay healthy 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.760 and improve the defense. And like you just said, Nate, 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.520 I'm not sure how you do that two years, let 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:29.840 alone one. I here's what the Cowboys have to do, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.719 Like you talked about going all in, Like the Cowboys 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.200 have to make a splash. They have to find a 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.959 way to make a splash. Now that may mean trading 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.880 one of their favorite players. That may mean, you know, 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.960 doing something outside of the box that helps this defense 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:54.480 out dramatically. And again we're talking about a team where 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.800 if Dak comes back healthy and by the way, fellas 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.720 completely just take this and we'll put this to the side. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.560 We have to dive more into this thing of Dak 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:11.679 maybe not being one hundred percent healthy right now, I'm 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.920 not saying that he is and not saying that he 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.559 is it. I'm just saying we're talking about him being 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:24.800 This accident happened in October and it's February and I'm 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.240 hearing Dak is still like on crutches and wheelchairs and 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.560 stuff like that. So that's a whole other conversation. But 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.560 you just trumped everything you're about to say, because I'm 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:46.240 mind with dead. You have just defensively, defensively, this team. 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:50.240 You don't have to overhaul this defense. We've talked about 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:54.320 this time and time again before. This team doesn't need 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.520 the number one defense in the league. This team doesn't 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.280 need a top five defense. This team that need a 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:04.320 top ten defense. You have to find yourself somewhere in 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.640 the middle of the road, and that maybe, you know, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:11.560 bringing in a guy in the secondary, bringing in a 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.960 guy in that linebacker. They doesn't have to be superstars. 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.200 We get so enamorous and so fixated on him the names. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.320 That's the cowboy wave. If the names aren't what we 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.760 think they should be, we think that those players aren't 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.200 good players. I talk about this all the time. When 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.000 you look at a guy like Blake Martinez, most people 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.680 don't know who Blake Martinez is. Take I'll take Blake 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:37.640 Martinez any day, twice on Sunday. Why he is a 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:42.600 tackling machine, doesn't have the big name, doesn't have the 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.160 fancy everything. And then in all the commercials don't have 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:50.960 the signature celebration or the big business moves off the field, 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.960 is a football player. And if the Cowboys can find 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:59.800 a way to find football players. I don't need Pro bowlers. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.360 Those are nice, Those are great. I don't need all pros. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.840 Those are nice, Those are great. But if I can get, 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:11.160 if I can get football players who can grasp a concept, 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:16.400 play lights out at their position, and just simply do 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.040 what we asked them to do on a very high 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:23.160 consistent basis, I think this offense is good enough if 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:28.920 Dak is healthy, to take this team to greater to 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.520 greater heights. We just we just don't need a defense 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.040 in the twenty seven and twenty eight and twenty nine 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.400 and twenty sixty. We need a defense that's around fourteen fifteen, 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.560 sixteen seventeen if we're somewhere around there, creating some turnovers, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.480 creating some stops every now and again. This offense is 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.560 built great enough where it can take over and win 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.680 football games. It just shouldn't have to be always in 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.280 forty forty point battles every single week because your defense 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.080 couldn't stop in those bleak So would you like to 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.080 see them find those football players to draft or through 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.680 Like you said, the current guys you already kind of 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.640 know about. I want to mixture of both. I think 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.960 I think a mixture. 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So Chris, you gotta you got about a 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.840 minute long clip that we're going to just play the audio, 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:31.120 so roll that whenever you were ready, sir. I don't 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:36.480 know that bringing in someone new is going to change things. 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.920 It's a it's really a unique place to coach and 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.400 to work. There are so many accolades that go their 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:48.240 way and unearned. A lot of those players walk around 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.359 like they got super Bowl rings on, because that's the 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:53.640 way the public and throughout the country they are treated. 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.560 They're treated like, hey, you just want the super Bowl, 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.760 But in reality, they didn't even make the playoffs. And 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.119 so the coach has going to be a hard line, 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.880 you know, no nonsense type of guy, and sometimes he's 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:12.159 got to combat. Then I would start my very first 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:16.360 practice like we were one in fifteen, and that's how 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:20.480 I treat those players, and we would be as physical 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.640 as the NFL would let us be. But I would 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:27.040 grind on them by the you know, by the middle 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.280 of the season. They would hate to see me coming, 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:33.639 you know, and but hey, sometimes some way, somehow, you 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.560 got to bring him back down to urdin h you 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:44.359 make him realize they only won like six games or so. So, Nate, 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:47.720 what I want to get from you just general comments 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:50.159 on what Jimmy said. And then Jesse, what I what 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.679 I want. What I want to get from you is 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.960 how different our players really treated here in Dallas. Because 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.960 we're around it, we see it. You've been other players, 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:04.440 says recently. How does you know even a practice squad 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.800 guy or a special teams guy get treated differently here 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:09.720 in Dallas than they do in some of these other 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.520 stops that you've been in. So, Jesse, you take it first, 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:17.760 then Nate, you jump in after you. Guys laugh when 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:21.600 I say this, but it's all about the star. It's 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:25.000 all about this right here. And if you are associated 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:29.440 with this at any juncture in your career, and you're 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:33.720 in the DFW area, and a lot of times, the 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.560 bigger your name is associated with this, the farther it 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:41.639 stretches out, you're a god. We've had this conversation before. 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:43.720 I was a practice squad guy. When I got to 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:47.439