1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Ron an Aian. You know it does make the argument 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: for you better wear your seatbelt and hope the air 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: big works, and make sure the air big works, and 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: make sure there's no airbag right on because you want 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: it to work, because boy, there's not a whole lot 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: up there to protect you. Pump for sure, Midlke. They 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: used to big out the car Doctor. UN's time you're 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: in the grocery, are looking at and walk by breakthroid. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: It always says keep lid on tightly when not in use. Right, 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: that's because they're trying to moisture out of the fluid. 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: the phone and call in the garage doors are open. 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls. At eighty 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: five five five six ninety nine hundred and now he. 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: Running. 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: We we had a very busy day, our very busy 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: week in the shop this week, just fixing cars and 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy stuff. From eighty seven volkswagons to 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: Alaska hun days as we call them. We had a 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: hun day visit Orus from Alaska, which is not around 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: the corner, you know, and we had to put it 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: back together so we could return. Evidently, I guess we're 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: we're on in Alaska and as we know on Ksko 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: and somebody visited us. They were down there in northeast 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: and they just decided to go on a fifty five 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: hundred mile trip. Yeah, one way from what I understand, 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: just what a ride. So you know, it was just 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: kind of fun. But you know, I'm here to answer 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: your questions. The phone number eight five five five six 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero that I mentioned that we're doing. 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I mentioned this. I noticed Tom's not 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: wearing his Tom You're not wearing your new car doctor 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: T shirt? 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: Are you? 38 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: O way, Mitte, don't don't take your clothes off. Okay, 39 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: that's enough, right, Okay, as long as I know it's on. 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: So you know, after all, we have to be official 41 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: when we do this, So. 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: I'm in uniform. Okay, I'm always in uniform during the show. Okay, 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: you just don't notice. 44 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: Well, I just I try not to, you know, I 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: often wonder if you're just wearing a shirt and nothing else. 46 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: And that's what scares me because I know how you are. 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: So but yeah, but we are doing car doctor t shirts. 48 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: We're doing T shirts and hats and mugs and sweatshirts. 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: End of the year. I talked to the web guys 50 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: the other day and they're hard at work building a 51 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: web store. So you'll be able to go out there 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: and do what you want. But let's do what I want. 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: I want to go answer phones, Let's go to let's 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: go to John in Florida. Florida's coming in loud and 55 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: clear today. Five f one fifty that shuts off while driving? 56 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 4: John? 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: What engines in this truck? And tell me about the problem? 58 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 5: Welcome, sir, Well all those five point four it's a 59 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 5: V eight right and ironically about I guess a month 60 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 5: and a half ago, it just literally cut off going 61 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 5: right down the road. 62 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 6: I'll pull it over to the side. I put it neutral, 63 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 6: tried to get it started, didn't want to start, and 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 6: then it seemed like I tried to start and I 65 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 6: didn't have any gears that were interacting, so I was 66 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 6: about to give up. It's gonna cost somebody to pull me, 67 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 6: and I tried it again. It started ride up, and 68 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 6: it's run up until yesterday. I let it set a wall, 69 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 6: and I'm driving it now, and I haven't had a 70 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 6: chance to have any of the codes check between the 71 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 6: hurricanes that hit here and that kind of thing. But 72 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 6: I thought, I just see if I could just get 73 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 6: a wild educated guest. I don't know if you have 74 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 6: enough information to even do that, but it just seems 75 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 6: bizarre that I let it set and boom it starts 76 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 6: up and I don't know off. I do have one 77 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 6: one light on the check engine light, and I just thought, well, 78 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 6: that's the catalytic converger. I got one hundred and fifty 79 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 6: thousand miles on this and I'm used to seeing those 80 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 6: lights at some point and get in my vehicle's life 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 6: when I get up there. I don't know if that 82 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 6: has an indirect fact or any effect. 83 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: So catalytic converter won't have any effect, but if it's 84 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: setting a secondary fault. So you're telling me you know 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: this truck has a P zero four twenty or four 86 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: thirty catalytic converter failure code in it. 87 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 6: Well you got me. I do know that in my 88 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 6: last two or three vehicles. When I got to this point, 89 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 6: the catalytic, I mean, the check in your life comes on, 90 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 6: and I've got enough money into them. I just said, mother, 91 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 6: keep driving them another fifty thousand miles and I'm still 92 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 6: driving it. 93 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: Gotcha. So you don't know that, you don't know that 94 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: it's a cat fault. 95 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 6: I do not. 96 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: Okay, that's the truth, right, And how long has the 97 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: light been on? 98 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 6: Well, it just came on within the last week or two. 99 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: Okay, So all right, let's let's just chat. And I'm 100 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: not scolding you, John, I get it. You know you're here. 101 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: You're here because you're looking for knowledge a check in light. 102 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: You know. 103 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: Let me ask the question this way. If if you 104 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: continually got up from the kitchen table after supper or 105 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: breakfast or whatever, and you were dizzy and lightheaded, or 106 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: every time you stood up from a chair you were 107 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: dizzy and lightheaded, you'd probably go to a doctor and 108 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: get your blood pressure checked, and you know, your vitals 109 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: and just have you looked over right sooner or later? 110 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: Right on that? All right, Well, your your check engine 111 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: light was on then, and your check engine light's on now. 112 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: Got to go get your vitals checked. Because you've got 113 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: all the warning signs, all right, you've got all the 114 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: warning signs of you could see something here. There's eighteen 115 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: hundred reasons on the average vehicle on why a check 116 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: engine light comes on. 117 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: You know. 118 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: But listen, we're human, right, we do the human thing. 119 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: We all kind of get we all kind of get 120 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: caught up in the in the you know, it was 121 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: a cat code on my last two at this mileage. 122 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: It's got to be a cat code now. I don't 123 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: have to worry about it because I know I can 124 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: drive it unto the fifty thousand in miles. You know, 125 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: it's just we're human. Well, listen, the biggest, one of 126 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: the biggest problems in fixing cars is I've got to 127 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: take the human element out of it. I do the 128 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: same thing. You know. Listen, my dad is gone, my gosh, 129 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, right, and I can still hear him today. 130 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: I hear it. I hear his voice in my head 131 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: every time. Ronnie, don't you skip a step? All right? 132 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: He would always tell me, he said, if this repair 133 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: is going to take ten steps, you don't go two 134 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: four six eight, he goes, you go one two three four, 135 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: And I can still hear his voice in my head 136 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: every time. He said, even if it's a hard thing 137 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: to check, even if it's something you don't want to check, 138 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: the worst that happens is you get better at learning 139 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: how to check that particular component or that particular test, 140 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: and you'll know it for the next time. And I 141 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: never forgot that. I just it's burned into my brain. 142 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: So I want to check for codes. I want to 143 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: see do we have do we have a p twelve 144 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: thirty three? If I've got a twelve thirty three, that's 145 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: fuel pump driver module, that's you know, located above the 146 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: spare tire, inside the frame rail and the driver's side, 147 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: and they get good and corroda up there, especially at 148 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: this mileage, and they'll they'll do just what you're describing, 149 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: you know. So let's yeah, let's and I would prefer 150 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: to do a complete system scan, not just a an 151 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: OBD two skin. Do you know the difference? 152 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 7: No? 153 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: Okay? How many languages do you speak? 154 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 6: Anglish and poor Spanish? 155 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: Okay? So you speak two languages? Right, So you speak 156 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: OBD two and you speak you make model specific because 157 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: you speak, you speak a secondary language. All vehicles, all 158 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: vehicles contain at least two languages. They all speak OBD two. 159 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: They all have basic emission value software that monitors the 160 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: systems to make sure the vehicle is an emissions compliance. 161 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: And then the other language your vehicle speaks is Ford. Right, 162 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: it speaks it speaks Ford because Ford has a different 163 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: set of priorities for maintaining that vehicle and keeping it 164 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: safe and reliable on the road than just emissions. So 165 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: when I'm diagnosed, saying, listen, an OBD two health check 166 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: is a great thing to do to a vehicle. I'm 167 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: getting to the point where we're doing it on every 168 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: oil change, but you know, a full year, make model vehicle, 169 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: scan all modules. Communication. We're looking for communication faults. We're 170 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: looking for you know, pending codes. We're looking for things 171 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: that have been in history and are now are raised 172 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Again, you know, well, two weeks ago, 173 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: I got up from the kitchen table and I fell dizzy. Doc, 174 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: what's the first thing he does? He checks your heart rate, 175 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: your blood pressure, and he looks in your blood for 176 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: any indicators of a possible heart attack for something that 177 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: happened two weeks prior. And the same thing with a 178 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: car man, same thing so I want to see a 179 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: year make model vehicle scan, all right, what faults are 180 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: in there? 181 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 6: Now? 182 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: Maybe you do have a catalytic converter fault. Catalytic converter 183 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: fault is not going to give you your problem, but 184 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: at least I know what it's. 185 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: Not. 186 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: Knowing what something isn't may tell you what it is, 187 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: all right, Okay, So listen, I'm gonna get that printed 188 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: on T shirts when we get the T shirt store up. 189 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: That's gonna be like, that's gonna be the one of 190 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: the first tell me what's good. I'll tell you what's bad, 191 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: all right. 192 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 6: So I spent a lot of money paying good mechanics, 193 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 6: which I trusted fair enough, because the best thing I 194 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 6: can just break it as somebody else's got to fix it, 195 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 6: right right. 196 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: So but first thing I would do is first thing 197 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: I would do is I would I would do a 198 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: year make model vehicle scan on that. I think. I 199 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: think newer vehicles, yours, you know, even yours older vehicle 200 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: like that. I just you know, it's I often wondered 201 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: why whenever I go to the doctor for a physical truthfully, 202 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: isn't a lot, but it's enough, you know, they always 203 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: do the same thing. They always do the same you know, 204 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: blood pressure, heart rate, they tell you to pee in 205 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: a cup. They the same thing every time. You know, 206 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: it's that consistency of testing. Because then at least you know, 207 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: you've got to realize too, if you scan that vehicle 208 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, and in this case, if you 209 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: scan it now and there's nothing there and you fix 210 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: this problem in six months from now, the check engine 211 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: light comes back on, you'll know what it wasn't. It's 212 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: not a repeat because it wasn't there six months ago. 213 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: This is a new problem, and it helps you deal 214 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: with the current problem you're facing. So it's just just 215 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: just tell me what's good. I'll tell you what's bad, 216 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: all right, kiddo. 217 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 6: Well, you've been a lot of help because you've directed 218 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 6: me in a direction and I'm going to take your advice. 219 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 6: So I appreciate you very much. 220 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, John, You'll be well and you'd be 221 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: safe and stay dry down there Florida way. You're very welcome, sir. Yeah, 222 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, I look at Florida and I think, oh 223 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: my gosh, it's just it's gonna be a while. So, 224 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, hopes and prayers to everybody down that way 225 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: in North Carolina as well, and anybody affected by this 226 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: crazy weather. We recently had eight five five five six 227 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero run inading the car. Doctor. 228 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm coming back right after this. Don't go away. 229 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 4: Start down. 230 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 8: When you get keep Ron's number handy eight five five 231 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 8: five six zero nine nine zero zero for when you 232 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 8: really need advice on your car. 233 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: Here's Rob. 234 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: Let's uh oh, let's go to Delaware. We haven't been 235 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: to Delaware yet today. Joe Delaware, fourteen, Silverado. How can 236 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: I help, sir? What's going on? 237 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: Yes? 238 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call. Run and I'm twenty fourteen Silverado. Now, 239 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 7: the temperature today was seventy here that transy training was 240 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 7: running at one ninety six. I did flip the pill 241 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 7: on this about a year or two ago on the 242 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 7: thermistat and I'm wondering, maybe that's not too hot, because 243 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 7: you know, the cooling happens through the radiator, which runs 244 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 7: at about two hundred degrees anyway, right, So would the 245 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 7: temperature be similar to the engine cooling temperature. 246 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: It can be, But you know, let's let's buyrate cruising. 247 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: Let's yeah, you know, how are you using the truck. 248 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: Are you towing with it at all? Or is this 249 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: just tooling along. 250 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 7: Down the road, you know, no, no towing, no towing, 251 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 7: no towing. And I did put a drain plug in 252 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 7: then drain the the train a couple of times, and 253 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 7: also dropped the pan once. 254 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 1: You know, the rule of thumb is one hundred and 255 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: sixty to two hundred and twenty degrees is average trans 256 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: temp range. So you know, to me, you're in the 257 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: sweet spot. When you say you flip the pill, what 258 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: do you mean by that you changed the thermostat? 259 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: Uh? 260 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 7: Yeah, online is a prosidure. A lot of people are 261 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 7: doing it, taking apart the thermostat, turning it around, sort 262 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 7: of punge just space open all the time and doesn't 263 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 7: doesn't close, doesn't warm up the transmission to two hundred 264 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 7: degrees two hundred and twenty degrees whatever. 265 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 4: Dam ah that. 266 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Because they I was 267 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: going to say they did originally they had some problems. 268 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: I've also seen where that where that transcooler line thermostat 269 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: would get clogged, it would get restricted, and it would 270 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: drive temperatures much higher. You know, it's it's it's funny 271 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: because I speak I have. I have a very dear 272 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: friend who's the trans rebuilder at the local Chevy dealership, 273 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: and we talk about it all the time. And you know, 274 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: we had an in depth conversation about how that that 275 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: that trans thermostat, that transcooler line thermostat operation has changed 276 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: in the last ten years. And it seems like the engineers, 277 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: first they tried driving it this way, then they tried 278 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: driving it that way, you know, and they're just not 279 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: quite sure. And the conclusion, you know, that we both 280 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: came to is that, you know, the logic and common 281 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: sense that we learned thirty five forty years ago still applies. 282 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: You know, you want it to run, you know, at 283 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: a minimal temperature but not too cold. You know, one 284 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: sixty one eighty would be a great position. You know, 285 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: lower heat is you know, it can be too cold 286 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: can be a problem. Too much heat is obviously a problem. 287 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: And we're not sure what they're trying to do. They're 288 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: they're over regulating the transmission, is what GM has been 289 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: doing for the past ten twelve years. And you know, 290 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: it's good that you're keeping an eye on it, and 291 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: for everybody else out there that may or may not 292 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: it's important because lots of issues, lots of you know, 293 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: transmission failures. How many miles around the on the truck. 294 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 7: Show, there's sixty five thousand on it right now. I 295 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 7: did flip the pill. 296 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 6: Now. 297 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 7: I saw another video from a training guy recently that 298 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 7: says when you flip that pill as a stem, you 299 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 7: got to kind of pull it out. It's pressed in 300 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 7: to that brass plunger. But he says you should remove 301 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 7: that because it could jam up things and block the 302 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 7: oil flow. But I don't remember if I did it, 303 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 7: because that was about two years ago. I didn't know that, 304 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 7: you you know, that was necessary to do. So I'm 305 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 7: just wondering if you ever ran into that. 306 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: Haven't ran into that. I've run into the scenarios where 307 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: we've bypassed the factory cooler and we've put auxiliary coolers on, 308 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: and you know, you always have that option too. And 309 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: that's why I was asking if you're towing with that, 310 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: because on the vehicles that tow, we're trying to provide 311 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: more cooling capacity. We'll just we'll mount the cooler somewhere, 312 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: I believe, and we might even be turning it at 313 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: a slight. We'll mount it horizontally. But we'll turn it 314 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: at a little bit of an angle, so it's just 315 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: catching some of the air underneath aerodynamically, but it's not 316 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: sticking out in front. It's not a sore thumb. It's 317 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: at a it's at a forty five degree angle. 318 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: You know. 319 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 7: Now the other have a small cooler. I may do that. 320 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. The other thing you could do is 321 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: now I haven't seen it for the newer transmissions, but 322 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: the older ones. There are are companies out there that 323 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: we're making ribbed finned trans pans. You just you just 324 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: have to watch, you know, depending upon your exhaust system, 325 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: that you have the clearance for the pan to clear 326 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: the exhaust system. Uh, you know, to put it up 327 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: and to get it down, because that was that was 328 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: the other problem GM had. Now you're the V six, uh, 329 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: but you know some of those were a little bit 330 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: more clear, but the V eights were horrible where you'd 331 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: have to actually pry on the exhaust pipe or remove 332 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: the exhaust pipe to get the pan down to change fluid. 333 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 7: So, yes, I saw that. 334 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's an issue too. But if somebody made 335 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: a ribbed pan that dissipated heat, that can possibly help 336 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: you as well, and that's you know. 337 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd looked for that. Maybe there's one available now, 338 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 7: I haven't seen one in the past. Right right, people 339 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 7: are putting in go ahead, go ahead. 340 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: I was going to say, other. 341 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 7: People are putting in billet uh talk converters because they 342 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 7: say the talk converters originally were really poorly made. 343 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Yep, they were, they were. Kevin tells me that he 344 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: puts more, he does more trans repairs. H And I 345 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: see it too, And between the two of us, you know, 346 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: but he's telling me that he'll see he'll see more 347 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: transmission failures causing I'm sorry, more converter failures causing transmission 348 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: problems on the general motors products more than anything else. 349 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: And you know, it makes the argument, you know, for 350 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: fluid changes, it makes the argument for some anti chatter 351 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: agents and things like that. You know, it definitely is uh, 352 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: it's definitely, you know, definitely a problem one of GM's 353 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 1: weak links. So you know you're on the right track, Joe. 354 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 7: You are who makes those anti chatter agents. 355 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: Company by the name of the Yeah, I like Loubguard, Loubeguard. 356 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: If you if you Loubguard makes it, it'll come in 357 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: a red tube little little tiny almost like the size 358 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: of a travel toothpaste tube, red tube, white letters, glubeguard, 359 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: anti chat or chatter additive. Uh, there's also stuff out 360 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: there from companies like Lucas that may make something automatic 361 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: transmission to help with seals, but also for anti chatter 362 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: something you can look at that way as well. So 363 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: you're on the right track, hiddo. So you know, just 364 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 1: keep at it and keep monitoring it, and you know 365 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, but we have to modify sometimes what the 366 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: engineers didn't do. Right, I'm running any in the car doctor. 367 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm back right after this. Hey, run an aidy of 368 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: the car doctor here, Ay five five five six zero 369 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Run it cardoctorshow dot com if 370 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: you're looking for me off hours, and keep in mind 371 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: you get out the car doctorshow dot com. You can 372 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: go over to the contact us page, fill out the 373 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: form and you never know, I probably will just give 374 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: you a call and put you in the queue, and 375 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, record your call and we'll use it up 376 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: here on air. So we're just trying to educate everybody. 377 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's let's go. Let's go over to Tom. 378 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: Let's go to Massachusetts. We haven't been to Massachusetts yet today, Tom, 379 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, Sir, How can I help? 380 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't know what you're missing. It's nice here 381 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 4: in mass Thanks for taking my call. 382 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 383 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 4: I have a twenty three super Forest. I know what's 384 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 4: minimum of issues considering what's going on there. But the 385 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 4: profile settings and how you can set the mirrors and 386 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: the temperature and. 387 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: The face yep, yep. 388 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 4: And when you're getting it's supposed to go back to that. 389 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if I'm just too big 390 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: or it just won't go back up to the setting. Okay, 391 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 4: I'm getting several pounds upset it to that setting. 392 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: But did you buy the car new, Tom? 393 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 394 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: Have you been back to the dealer? 395 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? They you know, it's so called flashed it or whatever. 396 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 4: But I don't know. It's just little things. I'm retired now, 397 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 4: so little things bother me. 398 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: Well no, I mean it's supposed to work, So you 399 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: know the issue is if they flashed it, it's nothing 400 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: you're doing and there's nothing I can tell you to do. 401 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's is the software up to the latest date, 402 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: latest level? And have you have you seen it work 403 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: in other vehicles. Are you sure the feature is there, 404 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: because it sounds like anytime I hear a story like this, 405 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm always I'm almost questioning, is there a communication breakdown somewhere? 406 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: You know, somebody's telling me it does one thing, and 407 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't. So does it really do it? 408 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 6: You know? 409 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's supposed to retract when I open the door, 410 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: and it does, it goes back down, you know, to 411 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: the bottom or whatever. Right when I get back in, 412 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 4: it'll say Hi Tom and do it sang with the 413 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: mirrors and whatever. But it just never gets a seat 414 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: up to the position. 415 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: Then right, it's got nothing. It's it's got, to my knowledge, 416 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: it's got nothing to do with your size, my friend. 417 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's it's it sounds like something 418 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: is not sync or something is not calibrated correctly. One 419 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: of the things I don't like about suber Rus and 420 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: I like SUPERU. I think it's a great car line. 421 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: What always concerns me about the subis is does yours have? 422 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: And I bet it does. I bet it has retinal scan, 423 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: the eye scan, I believe. 424 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you look at the thing in the dash. 425 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: Right which that boy I don't like anybody shooting anything 426 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: into my eye, but you know, it's identifying me. And 427 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: the reason I know about this is because we've got 428 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: a few customers with newer Subarus, and you know, the 429 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: car will come in and I just drove one this 430 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: week and it displayed, you know, unrecog what did it say, 431 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: unrecked unregistered driver in vehicle? Do you wish to register 432 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: your your your profile? Noh, yeah, so you know too 433 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: much technology. But I would I would go back to 434 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: the dealership and start small and work your way up 435 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: to the service writer or this sorry, the service manager, 436 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: and say, hey, isn't it supposed to do this? Because 437 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: it sounds like either something's out of calibration, something's broken, 438 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: or you know, there's there's an improper software package in it. 439 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: The mere fact that they said that they flashed it 440 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: tells me they're recognizing it as a problem. But somebody's 441 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: not listen. Unfortunately, we live in a world and I 442 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: don't have to tell you anything. You already know what. 443 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: We're both close to the same generation. I think, you 444 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: know it's nobody takes personal responsibility to follow up and 445 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: do what they're supposed to do. So uh yeah, you know. 446 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: The reason it bugs me. I'll be driving thirty miles 447 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 4: and I'll notice in my back is killing me. I'm 448 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 4: my own Jesus didn't or whatever? 449 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: You know, right well, and to the point, if it's 450 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: designed for it. You know, one of the things that 451 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: annoys me more than anything, and it could be anything 452 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: from a car that doesn't work properly to a cheeseburger. 453 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: I order medium rare with well done fries. If I 454 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: don't get what I paid for, Man, I'm annoyed, you know, 455 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I just want I just want what 456 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm entitled to. I don't want more, I don't want less. 457 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: I just want what I'm entitled to. And I don't 458 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: think you're wrong if you go back to the dealership 459 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: and tell them, hey, it's supposed to do this. It 460 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: doesn't do this. What's up? 461 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? You know, I THUK would have been my last choice, 462 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 4: but it was during the freaking crisis there right, literally 463 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 4: only power I could find you. 464 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: Right, yep, yep, And you know what, I think. I 465 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: think you picked a good one. They're good cars, they 466 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: really are. But you know, yeah, it's it's it's just 467 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: annoying when a feature doesn't work. Hey, how long could 468 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: it take him? Listen, it took it took for it 469 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: fifteen months to fix my wife's explore. So you know, 470 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: let's let's see if you can beat that record. 471 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 4: Yeah you know at that point. 472 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I got rid of the car after they 473 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: fixed it. But that's a whole nother story. So I 474 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: just wanted to have the experience, all right, my friend. Yeah, 475 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: you're very well them, You're very welcome, tomm You take 476 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: good care. Yeah, I you know, you buy a new 477 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: car today, and it's interesting, right, it's a process. It's 478 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: not Tom, you just you just purchased a replacement vehicle. 479 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't five minutes. It wasn't ten minutes. It was 480 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: probably an hour and a half in and out the door, right. 481 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: Actually it was probably a little longer than that. 482 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 5: But uh. 483 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 8: And the funny thing is with me, you don't have 484 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 8: to go through the technology with me because I know 485 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 8: it and it's but yeah, no, no, we we sat 486 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 8: there for at least two hours. 487 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: Fill out this, fill out that sign this piece of paper, 488 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: do this, do that right. 489 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 8: The other thing, the whole big thing with me was 490 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 8: my insurance company had My name is Thomas r Ray 491 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 8: the third I at the end. For whatever reason, New 492 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 8: York State does not do that on on titles and registrations. 493 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: They put Thomas r. Ray the numeral three. 494 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 8: And because the insurance company didn't have I had III 495 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 8: and not the numeral three, they couldn't transfer the plates 496 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 8: on the car. And then the insurance company couldn't put 497 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 8: the numeral three on. We had to go through We 498 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 8: had to go up a whole bunch of a whole 499 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 8: bunch of ladders to get somebody who could actually do that. 500 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: Yes, And it was like, come on, yeah, you know, 501 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: at the paperwork alone as a nightmare. I just I 502 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: look at the technology that's in the cars. One of 503 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: the problems I'm seeing with the technology in the cars 504 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: is somebody goes to rent a car and yeah, you 505 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: come out of you come out of a four or 506 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: five year old vehicle, and now you rent a newer 507 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: vehicle because maybe you're going a distance, maybe your car 508 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: is in an accident, you don't have your car, so 509 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: you have to drive this newer vehicle for whatever reason, 510 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: and the technology is just crazy different. 511 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 8: Well, I came out of a nine year old car, right, 512 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 8: my wife, As you said, last hour has a fourteen 513 00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 8: year old car. 514 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: I mean gets in, she gets in my car and goes, 515 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: huh yeah. 516 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 4: Right. 517 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 8: You know, I'm used to the technology and I do 518 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 8: rent cars, but the you know, there are certain things 519 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 8: about the new technology that annoys me. Start stop first 520 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 8: thing that gets shut off. Yeah, and there's other little 521 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 8: things like you can't you can shut off the bumping 522 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 8: for the lane departure, but you can't shut off the alarm. 523 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 8: And yesterday I had to swerve to go around to 524 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 8: pieces something in the lane and the car starts screaming, 525 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 8: hollering and yelling, Oh my god, you need to go 526 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 8: take a break because you're falling asleep at the wheel. 527 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: It's like, no, I'm swerving to avoid something, you idiot. 528 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: I can explain it to you. It's a Ronald Reagan quote. 529 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: Government that governs less governs best. So because that's the 530 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: government telling you that there's something wrong in the way 531 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: you're driving. 532 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. 533 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 8: And I mean, there are just certain things and what 534 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 8: bothers me about some of this new newer technology in 535 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 8: the cars, like the lane departure warning, is we already 536 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 8: have problems with people doing stuff like this, and now 537 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 8: we're making it easier for them to do it, and 538 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 8: we're not correcting the problem. We're trying to put. 539 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: A band aid on it. What the technology is right, 540 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: we can just sit. 541 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: There and really, I think you know it's it's listen 542 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: how many people call in every week that have had 543 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: a check engine light on longer than a couple of weeks. 544 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: The vehicle's got a problem, and they're not connecting the 545 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: dots and they're not getting the scanned, but they're throwing 546 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: parts at the vehicle. The technology is only good if 547 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: people pay attention and if people apply it correctly. So 548 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: if we can teach people not to swerve, not to 549 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: drive erradically, if we can teach people to scan check 550 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: engine lights when they need to be scanned, I think 551 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: the experience on the road would be a whole lot better. 552 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: Let's pull over and take a pause and we'll talk 553 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more when we come back. I'm run 554 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: an ending of the Car Doctor here abily assisted with 555 00:27:53,280 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: Professor Ray. We'll both return right after this. Hey me, 556 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: Ron and Andy of the Car Doctor. I'm back at 557 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 558 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 1: I want to do some emails. This one comes to 559 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: us from David, who writes and hey, Ron, I've got 560 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: a two thousand and six Honda Odyssey EX. I think 561 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 1: David was trying to call in. I don't know if 562 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: he made it. I guess he didn't make it right, 563 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: because I'm here reading the email. Ron, I've got a 564 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and six Honda Odyssey EX. The battery keeps dying. 565 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 1: The alternator is brand new, the battery is brand new, 566 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: and the negative battery cable is brand new. Oh great, 567 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: now that we've changed a bunch of parts, let's try 568 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: and figure out what's really wrong with it. So when 569 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: we get a battery that goes dead and it's an 570 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: electrical draw, right, something is pulling on that battery, it's 571 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: the same thing as the toilet in your house that 572 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, you flush the toilet, the water goes down, 573 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: the tank fills up, the water shuts off home. We're done. 574 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: But every once in a while you'll hear that cysts 575 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: of running water and you're look in the bowl the bulls. 576 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: Nothing's moving, but you know, water's leaking past the flat 577 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: valve or or that garden hose that you've got all right, 578 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: that might have a slow trickle to it, even though 579 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: the faucet's in the all the way of the off position. Well, 580 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: when the key's out of the ignition on your car, 581 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: the faucet's in the off position. All right. There's not 582 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: supposed to be any electron flow. There's not supposed to 583 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: be any water flow like the toilet or the garden hose, 584 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: but there's there's electrons flowing. Just because you don't see 585 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: something on doesn't mean there isn't the loss of electrons. 586 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: So by that, I mean we could have a very 587 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: dimly lit bulb somewhere in the recesses of a courtesy lamp, 588 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: or we could have a module. In most cases, in 589 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: a lot of cases, it's a module that doesn't turn off, 590 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: an elect electronic module in a vehicle. Honda's had problems 591 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: with the garage door opener that were built into the 592 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: overhead console and sometimes the sunvisor mirrors with the lamps. 593 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: So what we've got to do, David, is we've got 594 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: to do what we call a milliamp draw test or 595 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: a current draw test. All right, but in a very 596 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: in a milliamp range, in a very lower electrical range, 597 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 1: fifty milliamps, fifty widgets is the magic number. We have 598 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 1: to be drawing less than fifty milliamps on a modern 599 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: vehicle in order for it to pass an electrical draw test, 600 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: and that zero to forty nine milliamp mark is usually 601 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: consumed by a computer module because computers have to have 602 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: memory to maintain settings, so they know the profile, so 603 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: they know who's driving or who's you know, how that 604 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: vehicle is supposed to operate based on the person's profile 605 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: and so on. So it's a simple enough test. They're 606 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: going to use a digital vaultometer. They're going to have 607 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: it set into the age range milliam scale and connect 608 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: it between one of the battery cables, take off the 609 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: positive or take off the negative, tie it in between. Now, 610 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: one of the things you have to be concerned with 611 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: is on a modern vehicle is there are a lot 612 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: of computers here, so we want to make sure you know, 613 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: it can take upwards of forty five minutes to an 614 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: hour and a half for the average vehicle to time out. 615 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: There are things you can do. We could, all right, 616 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: put a jumper between the battery post and the cable, 617 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: disconnect it, put our meter on, all right, and look 618 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: to see and we'll get it. It'll take less of 619 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: a draw down time because we've maintained connectivity across the circuit. 620 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: But the point becomes, we still got to do that test, 621 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: and that test should have been done from my seat 622 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: here prior to changing a battery, an alternator and a 623 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: battery cable. You know, we're looking for a fault. Now. 624 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: Once we prove there's a fault in the vehicle, then 625 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: we got to talk about that. And that's that can 626 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: be upwards of If we don't see anything obvious, we 627 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: can use an infrared heat gun. We can look for 628 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: something stuck on temperature wise in an electrical box. 629 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 7: You know. 630 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 1: We can also start pulling fuses out one at a 631 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: time and look to see when does the drug go away. 632 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: So if you want more, give me a call. I 633 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: know you can make it through the phones. 634 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 4: David. 635 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: We're here at eight five five five six o nine 636 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. I'm running ay in the car, doctor, 637 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Hey, welcome back running 638 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: into the car doctor. Quick. What battery story? Oh, the 639 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: battery story? Was there a battery story? 640 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 7: Tom? 641 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: What battery story? Tom? I don't hear you, Tom. Tom's 642 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: having to. 643 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: Have a battery story. 644 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 8: I have a couple of guys I was with this week, 645 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 8: some of the smartest people I know. And the guy 646 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 8: is telling me, is every time I leave my up 647 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 8: truck door open for about fifteen twenty minutes. 648 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: My battery dies. 649 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: He couldn't figure. 650 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 8: I said, home, I said, really, I says, how about 651 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 8: if you leave it parked overnight? Oh, that's fine, I said, okay, 652 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 8: I said, how old your battery? 653 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 3: Oh, it's less than a year old. 654 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 8: So he gets out the jump pack and the other 655 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 8: guy's never seen a jump pack before. 656 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 3: He's like, that's going to start this truck? You know, yeah, 657 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: it is. Opens the hood, the battery looked like it 658 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: had been. 659 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 8: Through the war, right Coroda terms at least a six 660 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 8: year old battery it was. And of course the dome 661 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 8: light was drawing it down well. 662 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: And you know, and you know what, it's a great 663 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: story too, Tom, because this time of year, we're getting 664 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: ready for winter. We're supposed to be get you know, 665 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: it's cold here in the Northea's gonna be warm this week, 666 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: but you know, winter's coming whether we want to or not. 667 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: And you know, last week we were talking about different 668 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: things to do for diesels. I want to talk a 669 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: little bit about gasoline vehicles. And again I'm going to 670 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: send everybody out the hotshot secret dot com website. If 671 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: you've got a gas vehicle, look through some of the 672 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: products they've got there for your vehicle. We were talking 673 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: before about transmissions and shifting with the silvers, and I 674 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: want to bring up shift restore. That's something hot Shot 675 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: Secret has that will help you know, older transmissions, tired 676 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: fluid things like that that will help improve shift quality. 677 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: And it's something that you know, some of these additives 678 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: work really really well, and you know, and the ones 679 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: from hot Shot Secret that are on the market today, 680 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: they really are. You know, they're they're proven by science. 681 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: They've taken a lot of engineering that goes into this stuff. 682 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: Because we're seeing that fluids, it's not that components wear out. 683 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: And this is my point I'm going the long way 684 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: around the barn to make it's not that the components 685 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: wear out as much as the fluids wear out. The 686 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: additive package is the vitamins that they put in the 687 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: fluids to make them work properly. So you know, you've 688 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: got to look at some of this stuff where years 689 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: ago editors were thought of maybe a little bit of 690 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: snake oil. Not so much anymore because these editives that 691 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: are on the market today are really well thought out 692 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: and part of the repair process and buyet for maintaining 693 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: a vehicle. So you know, if you've got a gas vehicle, 694 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: you're getting it ready for winter. Hotshots, sects, or should 695 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: be part of your day to day in terms of 696 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: your ritual for good winter ready and good winter success. 697 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm running ady in the car doctor saying until the 698 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. I'll see 699 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: you