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Speaker 1: This is Mick Shot, streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Everson Wolves, Pacma Harrison, and Bill Jones.

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Speaker 3: And it is time for another edition of mix Shots,

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Speaker 3: brought to you by Miller Lite, the only Beer of

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. It's Miller Time, and it's Micktime, as

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Speaker 3: Mickey Spagnola returns to his show this week. And we've

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Speaker 3: got about that so much to get to and we

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Speaker 3: can guarantee you right off the top, this will not

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Speaker 3: be the worst ten seconds of the sports week, because

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Speaker 3: that already happened.

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Speaker 2: If you're a Duke.

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Speaker 4: Blue, they got me.

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Speaker 5: Oh he's your bracket busted now officially even more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was long it actually I picked you con

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Speaker 3: to come out of that.

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Speaker 5: Tell you got to show no, no, no, no, no, Bill, no, Bill,

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Speaker 5: you got to show the bracket.

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Speaker 2: You cannot just tell you cannot do it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was born tonight, but last night. You're not

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Speaker 5: going to do that too. Oh my tough crowd.

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Speaker 3: So we got a busy morning going on with the

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Speaker 3: NFL Owners meeting. Shot, he's already talked to the media

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Speaker 3: this morning. We've got it's twenty five days till Draft day.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys actually did something in the last week since we

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Speaker 3: last convened. Yes, and welcome back, Mickey.

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Speaker 7: Thank you appreciate it. Did I miss anything?

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Speaker 3: A bearded Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, he's got good break.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes you gotta get lazy.

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Speaker 6: You go, hey, it's the off season. It's the off season, right,

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Speaker 6: Why you gotta.

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Speaker 3: Look like it didn't fall off your bike or anything.

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Speaker 7: I should have brought my bike instead of my skis.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 7: The weather there was like the weather here, which is

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Speaker 7: not conducing.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, right, Okay, So as we jump in, we

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Speaker 3: jump into football. But first I have to ask was

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Speaker 3: that the worst blown lead in the history of team sports?

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Speaker 6: When you look at the team that did it, it

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Speaker 6: was so unexpected from that team.

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Speaker 4: That's very unusual.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they showed you from the first week that they

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Speaker 5: had the potential to get down in the game.

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Speaker 2: Now was it nineteen points?

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Speaker 3: Was the league and.

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Speaker 5: You just started just in march madness. I don't know

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Speaker 5: what it is, y'all. I don't know if y'all have

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Speaker 5: the same thing. You sit back and you watch these

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Speaker 5: games and you go, god, man, the shooting is so bad,

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Speaker 5: and when it drives up, it dries up in a hurry,

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Speaker 5: and when teams go cold, they just opened the door

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Speaker 5: for teams to come. And that's what you started to

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Speaker 5: see Yukon start all of a sudden, they're hitting their shots.

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Speaker 5: They're dead in the water for a long period of time.

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Speaker 3: The top pick and the drafts dribbling the ball off

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Speaker 3: his foot was hitting me in the game, and even

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Speaker 3: the pass he tried to make well, and that was

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Speaker 3: his brother. You're you're talking about that at the end

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Speaker 3: of the game. Yeah, wow, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You know, there was point four left when that happened,

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Speaker 3: and then the Duke players saw get around the coach

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Speaker 3: and what they're going to do with four tenths of

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Speaker 3: a second left. I don't know how something somebody didn't

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Speaker 3: throw up in that hull. I mean, they had to

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Speaker 3: be so sick it was. It not only happened, but

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Speaker 3: then they got a linger out there with no chance

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Speaker 3: to win the game. Four point four, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And in point four seconds it the ain't not mention laterner, but.

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Speaker 3: Even they would with zero point four, you don't have.

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Speaker 7: Time to do that like one right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because he had as actually pivot when.

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Speaker 3: He got right yeah yeah, I mean they literally could

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Speaker 3: have held the ball in the back court. Now they

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Speaker 7: Well, the guy was gonna get fouled, and he was

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Speaker 7: their best free throw shoot.

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Speaker 4: I would be that. That's the other that's the other brother.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the younger are they Cameron and k Are they twins?

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Speaker 3: Yes, twin freshman?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the smaller one, yeah, ye was one, but he

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Speaker 7: had two guys open at the end.

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Speaker 4: I just hold the ball, I know, just hold the ball.

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Speaker 5: Got enough seconds because it looked it looked initially like

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Speaker 5: they Yukon was gonna file right and they were making

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Speaker 5: all the right passes, and I thought that maybe he

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Speaker 5: was thinking, if I one more pass, if I get

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Speaker 5: it all the way to the front court.

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Speaker 2: But it's over with.

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Speaker 5: And just like that, the ball is tipped and again,

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Speaker 5: like you're said, situational awareness, I'm not making that pass.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold onto the ball. You can foul me.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to the free throw and then you got

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Speaker 2: They're not.

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Speaker 6: It's so unlikely that a miss free throw you're gonna

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Speaker 6: catch it and go score.

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Speaker 7: The basketball gods even doubt dou Did you see how

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Speaker 7: the women beat l s U.

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 7: Last second, last tenth of a second shot for a

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Speaker 3: You think the Duke fans would rather have that women?

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Speaker 5: We want to stay on the air bill, correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: all right, the girls the same thing, like I heard

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Speaker 5: if you listen to the guys afterwards, the analysts after

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Speaker 5: the games, that Texas game, Texas Purdue game kind of

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Speaker 5: the one of the same things. You know, your last

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Speaker 5: second you're trying to play defense and they go with

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Speaker 5: beat on the put back by a bigger player. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: hindsight twenty twenty, everybody's Barkley was all over he killed that,

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Speaker 5: and I love it when they preface he's a good coach.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'll but because of disrespect.

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Speaker 7: The problem was it wasn't that they had a bigger

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Speaker 2: Right, No, he was there.

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Speaker 7: They had two or three guys there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was there. You didn't see him. The bigger

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Speaker 7: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was there, right right over the top. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: All right, Enough march madness talking now.

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Speaker 4: Not really. That's a lot of that going on.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So let's move on to what's going on with

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Speaker 7: What's going on? I've been gone for a week.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me.

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Speaker 4: He just woke up from his vacation. That's right.

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Speaker 5: I hadn't seen a razor where, right, talk about silly?

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Speaker 2: Where did you go? Actually?

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Speaker 4: So do we?

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Speaker 2: We got more hair.

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Speaker 7: In Colorado?

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Speaker 2: Colorado? Okay?

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Speaker 7: Went ski?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you did ski?

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Speaker 7: I did ski? Okay, I could have brought my bike right, Okay.

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Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 7: The people in Denver are going to be in trouble.

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Speaker 7: There is no snow melt in uh Dylan. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 7: a big lake and that's where the water goes to Denver.

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Speaker 7: There were spots where I saw a good hundred yards

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Speaker 7: And they've got no snow melt coming, so they're going

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Speaker 7: to have to conserve water in Denver this summer. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: it was great, you know here in the mountains. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: snow was slushy. Uh But other than that, it was

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Speaker 7: good and you didn't have your no, okay, did great.

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Speaker 7: Unusual that I was careful. It wasn't relaxing scheme. We

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Speaker 2: So he's the guy you pray for when he goes

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Speaker 2: on vacation.

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Speaker 7: Get hurt. I get hurt a block and a half

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Speaker 7: from all right, Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just going through all the tweets coming out

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Speaker 3: of Phoenix, the owners meeting. We're Schottenheimer's holding court this morning,

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Speaker 3: and I can fill you in on a lot of

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Speaker 3: the stuff that Shoddy is talking about. We've got a

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Speaker 3: couple of things that happened over the week. Well, one

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Speaker 3: thing over the weekend. Jonathan Bullard, a veteran defensive tackle,

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Speaker 3: was signed. Last week there was a veteran cornerback, Derrien Kendrick,

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Speaker 3: was signed. And that's about all they've done since you left.

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Speaker 7: I caught up real quick. There's only two things. Hello,

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Speaker 7: I notice that one of the things Shoddy said was

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Speaker 7: that I didn't know about George Pickens participating in the

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Speaker 7: off season workouts, but that he's been working out with

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Speaker 7: DAK and traveling with CD. Lamb.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you the quote. He's going great, George Pickens is.

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Speaker 3: He and CD have been taking a lot of trips together.

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Speaker 3: He's training with DAK.

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Speaker 7: Look did they bring a football with it?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: And an extra quarterback?

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Speaker 3: He's training with DAK.

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Speaker 4: Look.

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Speaker 3: GP loves it here. We love GP. We have plans

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Speaker 3: for GP to be here for a long time.

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Speaker 2: So you go.

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Speaker 6: Somebody talked to that kid. Someone talked to him, and

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Speaker 6: that's good. Someone should talk to him before he left Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 6: Someone talked to us he wanted out of Pittsburgh. That

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Speaker 6: seems like that's the way it was. Well, when you

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Speaker 6: have a quarterback in Pittsburgh that's not doing well, then

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Speaker 6: you say you can come to Dallas to this quarterback,

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Speaker 6: then there you are. He said, you know what, I

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Speaker 7: It here and that quarterback looks awfully well. I ran

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Speaker 7: into him the Thursday night before I left. Jason Garrett

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Speaker 7: had a kind of soft opening to his new restaurant

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, Luca. He named it. He named a restaurant after.

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Speaker 7: That's not that's not and it happens.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty bright and this smart thing to do.

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Speaker 7: This will bring down the crowd. It was actually after

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Speaker 7: Babe's son.

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Speaker 3: Oh very good. Yeah, yes, love it.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 7: And a bunch of his uh former players showed up

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Speaker 7: for it too, Sean Lee, Dak Prescott, both of them

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Speaker 7: flew in from California just for that.

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Speaker 6: And they invited you absolutely crash it, right, that's gonna say.

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Speaker 7: You were there, Zach Martin legally, Zach Martin said he

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Speaker 7: lost sixty.

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Speaker 4: Pounds, he looked good.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, yeah, so yeah, I had former players there.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty offensive. Lineman lose sixty pounds in the

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Speaker 3: cornerbacks games? Yeah outside ever soon Yeah, you know you were.

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Speaker 6: I remember when I was in I was like ten

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Speaker 6: She got the brothers. You know, Cato's dad, he's uh,

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Speaker 6: he was a heck of a basketball player from what

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Speaker 6: my mom says.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, as you go, as you go through there, you

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Speaker 4: Man, why are you looking over here?

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Speaker 3: Waiting white looking at the head I was waiting to see.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, well I didn't know you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, want you stop?

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Speaker 4: Hey man?

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Speaker 5: He cut it out, Man, cut it out. I'll just

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Speaker 2: But why what did we do to get thrown out

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Speaker 4: They're gone, gone, gone, Thank God.

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Speaker 2: God bless him.

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Speaker 7: Which of those signings did catch your attention?

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Speaker 3: Which of the signings the recent signings that whether Darrian

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Speaker 7: They're still a big blank right.

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Speaker 3: Right there in the middle of the defense at linebacker.

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Speaker 3: You're now up to with the signing of Bullard, You're

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Speaker 2: Give me a history. What has he done?

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Speaker 3: Bullets?

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Speaker 7: Okay, so started with the Bears third round pick, played

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Speaker 3: The connection here, Marcus stick In, the new defensive line coach,

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Speaker 7: And that's his last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he was. He has some knowledge of him

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Speaker 3: as far as having worked with him before. But he's

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Speaker 6: I just yawned, Yeah, I just yawned. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: But he is it's a necessary piece to the puzzle.

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Speaker 2: I'll take a stab at it.

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Speaker 5: When when I saw the signing, one thing I thought,

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Speaker 5: he's here to to make sure that the Marven Ovoshan

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna nail this point home on Christian Parker in

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Speaker 2: And again, he's not.

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Speaker 5: One of those guys that get pushed off the point

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Speaker 2: That's not him.

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Speaker 4: So he's the guy where that double team won't push him.

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Speaker 7: Out and he's boomed the tackle guy more than a

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Speaker 6: Yes, but even the even the John Washington with the Giants, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like, don't know the camp.

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Speaker 5: But if he that you know, and a guy that

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Speaker 5: you have to get more guys in here, and like

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Speaker 5: Bill said, that really clears the way for what you're

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Speaker 4: There you go clean.

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Speaker 3: Up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta do a whole lot.

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Speaker 5: I think Draft Knight is going to interesting and I

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Speaker 6: When you're gounning the three four, Yeah, you do have

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Speaker 6: to have that guy, the guy that's gonna he's gonna

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Speaker 4: He's going to be that that that.

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Speaker 7: Well you have to have. You know, if a list

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Speaker 7: three defensive vent, it's a three four defense. He's six

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Speaker 7: three two ninety oh yeah, so you know it probably

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Speaker 7: could play in the middle too.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right, that sounds like he's made for the middle.

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Speaker 7: And those three years he I noticed that he played

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Speaker 3: How about the cornerback Darien Kendrick twenty five years old

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Speaker 3: he started his college career at Clemson six foot, one

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Speaker 3: first day of training camp in twenty twenty four. Wow,

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Speaker 2: The right past. I was hoping.

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Speaker 5: I was hoping that as he was running down that

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Speaker 2: But he did. And then I saw your reaction, I

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Speaker 2: Ways used to call that button, but now.

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Speaker 3: Ever since ever since it is twenty twenty six, that

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Speaker 3: He actually has some picks in his career, which is

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Speaker 8: We got five something like that wells career.

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Speaker 7: He ended up starting five games. Okay, so got nine

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Speaker 3: All right, and he can play in the slot.

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Speaker 4: That was going to be my next question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Kobe Durant, who wore number fourteen with the Rams,

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Speaker 5: And all that signing says to me is competition. That's competition.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be a lot of it, and especially

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Speaker 3: And it covers you where you can play games now,

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Speaker 3: okay with what you have, but you're going to add

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Speaker 3: but you don't have to do it at twelve. You

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Speaker 3: you can do a lot of things to add to it,

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Speaker 6: ILEY have to say that these guys, they're just guys.

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Speaker 3: They're just guys right now.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they' half of them.

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Speaker 7: Well, by the.

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Speaker 4: Time the Chinese camp even starts, maybe.

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Speaker 7: Look at it. Look at it this way.

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Speaker 3: You look at the money, what you.

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Speaker 7: With not yeah, the money Number one, the length of contracts.

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Speaker 7: Most are year deals. And of the nine guys, only

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Speaker 7: last year. Right, So now you've got Bland with forty

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Speaker 7: Everybody else didn't have more than eleven. So at least

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Speaker 6: This is nineteen eighty one, eighteen eighty one, You just

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Speaker 4: You didn't know what you have. They don't know what

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Speaker 7: Did they know what you.

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Speaker 6: They had zero idea they had they had zero idea.

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Speaker 4: What the hell was going on?

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Speaker 6: Come on, twenty five rookie dbs. This is yeah, similar

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Speaker 4: You're working with.

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Speaker 7: But at least what the bill said.

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Speaker 4: One office has to deal with.

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Speaker 7: What bill said that they can actually start again.

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Speaker 3: These aren't rookies coming in. These are the three of

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Speaker 3: Jalen Thompson and they paid good money to Jayalen Thompson

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Speaker 3: thirty three million dollars year. The other three DB's they've

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Speaker 3: With incentives, they can get them up to five. That's

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, same injury.

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Speaker 3: They replaced the screw in his foot right, and then

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Speaker 4: Uh so you'd be rather should be.

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Speaker 3: And so now they've got what ten cornerbacks on their

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Speaker 7: And they could still draft one that there's they have.

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Speaker 3: They're doing what they can do right now to enhance

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Speaker 5: And now they got and there's nothing wrong with hedging

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Speaker 3: Right and and at the if you're picking a cornerback

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Speaker 3: four to three eight last week at the Combine and

448
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Speaker 3: for him to get to number twelve is unlike unlikely.

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Speaker 3: But keeping my Tomorrow, Tennessee has their pro day and

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Speaker 3: Jermad McCoy is supposed to run at his pro day.

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Speaker 2: If he runs a four to three.

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Speaker 3: Let's ask Everson because this is the Jermond McCoy is

453
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Speaker 3: the ACL from January of last year, did not play

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Speaker 3: last season for Tennessee, did not run at the Combine.

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Speaker 3: He's going to run tomorrow in Knoxville at his pro

456
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Speaker 3: day if he runs a four three five, Do you

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Speaker 3: take a guy who didn't play last year due to

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Speaker 3: a knee injury.

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Speaker 7: I just don't want the first round number twelve.

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Speaker 6: I would not, Yeah, I would not. We depth enough

461
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Speaker 6: with these injuries. Just sign a player that just come

462
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Speaker 6: out and show us what he can do from day one,

463
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Speaker 6: you know, no drama. That's what I'm looking forward to

464
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Speaker 6: right now with the DBS that we signed. That's pretty

465
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Speaker 6: much no drama as well. You know, we're still looking around.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that's I'm pretty sure that's not we're

467
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Speaker 6: looking at. As far as some of those guys in

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Speaker 6: there as our final four guys that we're going to play,

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Speaker 6: I think we can make it. We can get a

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Speaker 6: we can get four. But then when you're talking about depth,

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Speaker 6: we still got a long way to go.

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Speaker 3: And then we've talked about Dylan Thieneman before. Who's a

473
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Speaker 3: safety who can play in the slot you really like?

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 3: But even at late first round with the number twenty pick,

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Speaker 3: or if you even trade down from there, there are

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Speaker 3: other cornerbacks that are on their radar, including Avian Terrell

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Speaker 3: from Clemson, AJ Terrell's younger brother, Colton Hood from Tennessee,

479
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Speaker 3: Brandon Ceesa from South Carolina, and then Malik Muhammad out

480
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Speaker 3: of South Oak Cliff in Texas.

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Speaker 2: When you say that, you got to say mighty yeah.

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Speaker 7: Specific they have done nothing.

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Speaker 2: You're a big one.

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Speaker 7: They have done nothing so far in free agency to

485
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Speaker 7: preclude drafting that position in the first round, right nothing,

486
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Speaker 7: And I think that's perfect defensive lineman, corner safety, linebackers.

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Speaker 6: I gotta get it, got to get always said the

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Speaker 6: middle linebacker.

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Speaker 4: I want that guy. I want that alpha mate.

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Speaker 7: Lee looked like he could play by the.

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Speaker 6: Way one that is yeah, but you but you gotta

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Speaker 6: have that linebacker. We need that linebacker that where you're

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Speaker 6: going to say, okay, we can depend on him every time.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna be the one that gets everybody in position.

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Speaker 5: My priority is completely different from everybody else. I love

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Speaker 5: the laying out of l s U. But I think

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Speaker 5: if you have certain linebackers sitting there at twelve, you

498
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Speaker 5: can't miss him because of what you need.

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Speaker 2: Depthwise, it's you get it out let the run.

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Speaker 3: We gotta give a little linebacker mass rusher. How about

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Speaker 3: pass rushing.

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Speaker 5: My thought is at twenty you still got an opportunity

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Speaker 5: to get a pretty quality pass rusher. But I mean,

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Speaker 5: it just depends. It just depends on the guy that's

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Speaker 5: staring you in the face.

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Speaker 3: Of crazy on draft day. One of those guys falls

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Speaker 3: down to twelve that.

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Speaker 2: He forced my hand.

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Speaker 5: Then Bain's sitting right there at twelve. I'm not going

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get Oh, guys, I just noticed that obviously

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Speaker 5: coming into this draft, no mention has been made of

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Speaker 5: in last season. Coming off of last season, we really

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Speaker 5: hadn't talked about this position room.

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Speaker 2: But it is the tight end room that I.

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Speaker 7: Want to talk about knew he was going there.

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Speaker 2: You didn't know that, You had no idea. There's no

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Speaker 5: So then you know exactly why I say that, because

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of criticism from both sides of this

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Speaker 5: table that I don't see and I want to know

587
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Speaker 5: because I'm sure that you guys know that Shoddy is

588
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Speaker 5: on the cusp of something very special offensively. In order

589
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Speaker 5: for him to get to that stratosphere, the tight end

590
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Speaker 5: room can't just be okay, And I think that's where

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Speaker 5: you've been feeling. There's been a little bit of disappointment.

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Speaker 5: And Jake Ferguson. You know how I feel about Jake Ferguson.

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Speaker 5: I call him for Kittle Kelsey, but that's the expectation

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Speaker 5: he hadn't lived up to yet.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: But behind that in Luke Schoonmaker, who I think at

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Speaker 5: certain points in the season you felt like he got

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Speaker 5: beat out by spaan Ford. Right, Where is your expectation

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Speaker 5: in that in the draft? Are you thinking about it

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Speaker 5: at all?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: And have you noticed on the thirty visit that Eli

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Speaker 5: Stowers is rumored to be one of the players or

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Speaker 5: has already been on one of the thirty visits?

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Speaker 3: Here for the Dallas cap well, and he doesn't even

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Speaker 3: have to be on any Dallas thirty because he's.

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Speaker 7: A he's a Dallas guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah's Dallas, so he's they don't even have to count

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Speaker 3: him against the thirty and Eli Stowers, who is more

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Speaker 3: of a wide receiver than he is a tidy Do you.

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Speaker 5: Have a comp? Do you have a comp for him?

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Speaker 5: For anybody that's in the league currently that you would think?

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Speaker 3: Do you have someone in mind Isaiah Likely? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Isaiah Likely seems you know, not from a production standpoint,

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Speaker 5: just seems like he's always around when something good is happening,

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Speaker 5: and that's been his career at Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 7: So what round are we talking?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the gate is, but I would

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Speaker 2: think group Apparently he's great, really.

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Speaker 5: Good, So I think that they'll take a swing at that,

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Speaker 5: you know, late seconds and third rounds for tight ends.

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Speaker 3: But think about the twenty twenty two draft, which was

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Speaker 3: the Jake Ferguson Draft, the Isaiah Likely Draft. Fourth Baltimore

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Speaker 3: took Charlie Kohler and then Isaiah Likely ten picks apart

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Speaker 3: Sandwich to round Bride and he was the first one

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Speaker 3: to go off, and it was it was late second round.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like you get a deep position like that

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Speaker 3: and teams will wait because they know they got so

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Speaker 3: many to choose from, and they'll fulfill other needs first.

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Speaker 3: And that's what happened in that twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying maybe fourth which is even better.

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Speaker 3: It could be fourth round, yeah, which works great as

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Speaker 3: far as the Cowboys are concerned.

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Speaker 7: Or you can trade one of those three fifths to

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Speaker 7: move to move up and hit a guy in the right.

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Speaker 6: And I do think the tight end position is one

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Speaker 6: of the most competitive positions coming out of college. And

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Speaker 6: I think that's an excellent call on your part.

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Speaker 4: Likely another excellent call.

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Speaker 2: This kid underused, Well he is.

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Speaker 6: Now when they and he's already gone, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hardball forty million dollars the first move.

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Speaker 2: Man, he knew.

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Speaker 5: It's like you're not being used right, So man, I

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Speaker 5: know that guy's a hell of a talent.

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Speaker 3: And they already got THEO Johnson there at tight end.

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Speaker 3: So they've got their two tight ends working there in

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Speaker 3: New York.

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Speaker 6: Even if you won't get a likely you still have

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Speaker 6: whether it's around the league or coming out of college.

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Speaker 6: You've got so much competition at tight end. I think

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Speaker 6: we could find someone easily, I really do. If you

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Speaker 6: pick out a guy, we need them first to be

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Speaker 6: able to block right, because that's to me, that's where

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Speaker 6: your boy hadn't hadn't been doing well at all. Injuries

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Speaker 6: probably have a lot to do with that, because I

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Speaker 6: was in his corner, so I kind of followed a

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Speaker 6: little bit, But the fact that he hadn't been able

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Speaker 6: to play well at all, to me, consistently is his problem.

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Speaker 6: The consistency is not there with Ferguson. You could get

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Speaker 6: guys coming out of college. These guys are studs, man,

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Speaker 6: they know how to block. Some of them extremely athletic. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you can go down fourth field round and find a

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Speaker 6: good one.

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Speaker 7: He's got a good one. He's got to stay healthy.

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Speaker 7: He was not healthy, so which means the second guy

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Speaker 7: has to be good enough to help out. And they

668
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Speaker 7: really that schoolmaker though, and they didn't get that out

669
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 7: of it. They did not yet.

670
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: That's what they were. When you take a tight end

671
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 3: in the second round like they did with Schoonmaker, you're

672
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: expecting more, right, right, And it looked.

673
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 7: A little heavy a Schoonmaker.

674
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looked a little heavy.

675
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 6: I mean, I know he wasn't quick a foot to

676
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 6: begin with, but he just looked a little heavy to

677
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 6: me last year. And when you're trying to be a

678
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 6: break into that starting role, you got to be a

679
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 6: little bit more diverse.

680
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: There's the other thing to consider on Schoonmaker. He is now,

681
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: it's his free agent year. This is it, this is

682
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: his last year of his contract, and so which is

683
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: another reason even regardless of what Schoonmaker has done, that's

684
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: another reason why you're in the draft at a position

685
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: that you've already paid big money to your starting tight end.

686
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 3: You'd be looking for somebody because you know a year

687
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: from now you don't have that tight end. And span

688
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: Ford's going into his third year.

689
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 5: And yeah, that's what hit me is that you've paid

690
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 5: for instance, So the money's already there, you've already signified

691
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 5: what you think about him. It's after that. And again

692
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: Schoolmakers has missed blocking.

693
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 2: Uh. That's always been an issue.

694
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 5: And I think going back to just kind of what

695
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: I believe you're alluding to, you got to have something

696
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 5: that you do that we could say, all right, we

697
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 5: can hang our hat on that, and we haven't been

698
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 5: able to do that with him.

699
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: I like, I like span Ford.

700
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: What do y'all think about it?

701
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 7: I think he's the verse. I think the versatile one. Yes,

702
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 7: he can block, that's how he got on this team,

703
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 7: but he also showed he can get down the field.

704
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: Is he started material?

705
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 7: No, I don't think he's well, he don't think so.

706
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 3: He started material when you consider that that he made

707
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: five starts last year and Schoonmaker made seven starts. So

708
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 3: your second tight end was twelve starts. So too tight

709
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: end off I think, yeah, very talented.

710
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 7: I think in a two tight end offense he he is, Yes, absolutely,

711
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 7: but they need that guy that can replace Ferguson if

712
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 7: he gets hurt and they don't have.

713
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: House Ferguson's off season.

714
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 7: Is he injured now, well, fine, he didn't have to

715
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 7: have any surgeries or anything. He had stuff and he

716
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 7: didn't start, I mean, or didn't play to the level

717
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 7: he played the year before.

718
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: Tight end stuff.

719
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 4: That's what the reason, right.

720
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: Be the reason, and there's a yeah, there's a reason

721
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: teams carry four tight ends on their fifty three man roster.

722
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 3: And then there's the couple that are on the practice

723
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: squad usually if not on injured reserve, because it's a

724
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: it's a position that you have to have depth. So

725
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 3: and right now the depth chart for the Cowboys at

726
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: tight end are Ferguson scoon Maker span four and if

727
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: you consider Princeton Fant to be a tight end, he's

728
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: more of a full backslash tight end. And so they

729
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: are definitely in the market on a third day of

730
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: the draft for a tight.

731
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 7: End and Dare answer the phone. It's Nate and.

732
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: Ferguson. Hey, Ferguson has to come with it.

733
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 5: I mean, if I follow Ferguson on social media, look, man,

734
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 5: he is. He looks like a guy that's having the

735
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 5: time of his life right now. You know, he has

736
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 5: a lovely fiance. She's really the athlete in the in

737
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: the relationship. Yeah, she's amazing guard. But you know, just

738
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 5: look at him, man, And he's got the fame, he's

739
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 5: got the money. It's just the numbers have to support,

740
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 5: you know, all the things that come with it for him.

741
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 5: And I think he's sensational.

742
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 6: So Nate from Frisco, he says, the tight man spent

743
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 6: a lot of time helping the tackles his past year.

744
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 6: So he's saying the tight end, Yeah, yeah, spent a

745
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 6: lot of time the tackles this past year.

746
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 4: So that may have had a lot to do with Ferguson.

747
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 6: Not being able to get the output that he's that

748
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 6: he should have had. Is that what he's trying to say,

749
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 6: because we had them helping.

750
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: Out the tackles him.

751
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: Our school, our school maker, you know.

752
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 5: I mean I thought from what I saw from Ferguson's production,

753
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 5: it's like yards after catch was the biggest thing for me.

754
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 5: You know, you get those those quick passes from Dak

755
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 5: being able to make something after the catch.

756
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 4: He's not the tackle breaker.

757
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 6: He's not that guy where you know, you catch him

758
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 6: leaning one way and then use that momentum, then the

759
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 6: off of me and then I'm going forward.

760
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot.

761
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 5: So, I mean, you look at the top rated tight

762
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 5: ends in the league. They all have that game breaking

763
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 5: ability and you want that from them.

764
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: And there are times when I was like, break that

765
00:38:54,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: tackle third and eight. Oh, we need you, all right.

766
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer and Arizona speaking with the media, not ruling

767
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: out drafting an offensive player with one of their first

768
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: round picks. If the best player on the board is

769
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 3: clearly an offensive player, that will certainly then we'll certainly

770
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: discuss that and more than likely knowing Jerry Jones pull

771
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: the trigger.

772
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: That would be pickforks at the door.

773
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 3: You've got on the subject of tight end, You've got

774
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: Kenyon Deck from Oregon, who is a basically the only

775
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 3: first round tied end that people are.

776
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 7: And take a guess on how many catches Ferguson had

777
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 7: last year.

778
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 4: Thirty five?

779
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 7: Huh, they are being serious.

780
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm not a guess. Just don't ask me a question.

781
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: Thank you.

782
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 7: To help you out, I'll guess.

783
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: Jason Witten eighty.

784
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 7: Two, Yeah, eighty two catches.

785
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 3: Oh really, was it right?

786
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: Bill? Stop? Bill? Cut it out man to.

787
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 7: Now you thirty five? Now the average went down, right?

788
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 6: Uh?

789
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: Birds per catch cat were four point on.

790
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 7: Seven point eighty two catches, yes, eighty two catches, six hundred.

791
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: The yards per catch were what, uh, well.

792
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 7: Eighty two six hundred yards? So eight is that eight?

793
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: Under enough?

794
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 7: It's under eight? That's seven point that's not enough.

795
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: Well, I mean for the calculation though.

796
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, can By the way, he had eight touchdowns too.

797
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 7: By the way, they just weren't spectacular.

798
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: And they weren't when we needed it right.

799
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 6: You know, some of those touchdowns you can easily get

800
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 6: a touchdown.

801
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 7: Tight But what happens when your protection is not as

802
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 7: good as it should be, You dump it off to

803
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 7: the tight end. And I think that's what happened with

804
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 7: a lot of.

805
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: And that's what what the heck was talking about.

806
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 6: We need that dump off to turn into something spectacular

807
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 6: and that and that's what the norm for tight ends

808
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 6: these days.

809
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: But not necessarily for hours.

810
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 5: So what I'm also talking about is that you're playing

811
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 5: with Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens and as a tight end,

812
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 5: you're running into some wide open areas when you get

813
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 5: the maneuvering your mother in that in that part of

814
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 5: his game, the field, that part of his game I

815
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 5: think will force defenses to come, you know, move from

816
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 5: to that time. And he has done it, but he

817
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: didn't do it last year.

818
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 7: Right, but he was sort of the safety belve.

819
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: Okay, you give you an idea. Ferguson was seven point

820
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: three yards per catch last year. Okay. Who's your guy

821
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: that you talk about all the time at tight end?

822
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: Kittle Kittle Kittle. Okay, in his career he's thirteen point

823
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 3: five yards per catch.

824
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: Yag daddy, Yes, make a hat.

825
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: Maxed out, maxed out at fifteen point seven yards per catch.

826
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 3: Witten in his career ten point six yards per catch

827
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: and with exactly is a possession. There's not no yards catch.

828
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: He maxed out at like eleven. Okay, a Hall of

829
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: Fame career, all that stuff, but that's what he was

830
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: ferguson seven point three last year. And he's only been

831
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: in double figures yards per catch one time in his.

832
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 8: Four years and he got paid that, he got paid

833
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 8: ten point So to that point, Clo, could this, to

834
00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 8: Hechma's point, could this team use a tight end who

835
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 8: can stretch the field?

836
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: Do some things be dynamic?

837
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 6: The field is already stretched or so, which is what

838
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 6: the field is stretched. The ability for him to just

839
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 6: fill that pocket in right there. It is a mass,

840
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 6: mass amount of yards where you're gone. You're over here

841
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 6: with the CD lamb. All of this should be his

842
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 6: right right, it should be here. We're not throwing to

843
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 6: the running back down the field. We're gonna throw to

844
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 6: our running back really when it's a screen pass.

845
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 7: As long as your quarterback has time to do it.

846
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 4: Well, if he's.

847
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 6: Chipping this offensive line, this defensive end over here, and

848
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 6: these guys are going down, that's even more room for

849
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 6: him to have. That's even more room for him to

850
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 6: have to exploit the middle of the field. And you

851
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 6: know sometimes a tight end wants it a certain place

852
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 6: when you dumped it off, give him a chance to

853
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 6: shake down the defender. We saw none of that.

854
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: Okay, here, here's another way of looking at it. It's

855
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: moving the chains, the tight end moving the chains. And

856
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: that's what Witton did in his career. In his season

857
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: where he had one hundred and ten catches, he had

858
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: fifty six first down catches. Okay, last year Ferguson was

859
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: around thirty first downs, so out of eighty two catches.

860
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: Wow, so well this one he said.

861
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 6: It affects the way a tight end can get down

862
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 6: the field with his vouts, right, if he's helping the tackle.

863
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 7: And there was a couple down the field that Dak

864
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 7: didn't get it there, member of they played run that

865
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 7: hash hash.

866
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: Mark Yeah, throw down the line on the seat.

867
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 7: And get it over the line back.

868
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 4: If you only talk, if you're talking about a couple of.

869
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 7: Times, no, I'm just I'm trying.

870
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 6: If you're on talking a couple of times, yeah, then

871
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 6: that's something that you know that that shouldn't matter in

872
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 6: the big scheme of things, because we've given them many

873
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 6: more times to be.

874
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 4: At that game breaker. But if you're going to find

875
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 4: the frustration in his play.

876
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 7: Think about how much they run two tight ends. Well,

877
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 7: that second tight ends still got to be a threat

878
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 7: down the field. And that's where span forward started to

879
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 7: show up a little bit, but not on a regular basis.

880
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 3: Okay, several topics that Brian Schottenheimer addressed at the owner's

881
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: meeting this morning. We'll get to those when Mixed Shots continues.

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Speaker 3: All right, very good, final few minutes here of mix

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Speaker 3: Schottenheimer talking with the media, I'm going to run down

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Speaker 3: some tweets that are coming out of Phoenix right now

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Speaker 3: in regards to there's so many biggest need on the

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Speaker 3: team right now, what would you say? Middle linebacker, inside

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Speaker 3: linebacker said all right? Schottenheimer said, Look, we made a

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Speaker 3: run at some guys in free agency. Sometimes it works,

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Speaker 3: sometimes it doesn't. What do you do? You adjust? It's

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Speaker 3: something we're working on. Three sixty five, twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 3: We've got a good plan. We're not done. We're always

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Speaker 3: open for business. Part of it is going to be

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Speaker 3: to marve on Overshown having a tremendous year. Samar James

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Speaker 3: is a guy we're excited about. We recognize that we

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Speaker 3: need to fill some holes there. Why didn't they bust

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Speaker 3: the budget to sign any of them. Hey, we were trying,

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Speaker 3: and if they don't take the money, they don't take

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Speaker 3: the money. I felt like the offers we made were very,

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Speaker 3: very fair. They were big numbers. We were very competitive.

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Speaker 3: Hard to compete with a couple of former teammates kway

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Speaker 3: Walker n Kobe Dean that wanted to go play together

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Speaker 3: Georgia guys. And there's a there's different reasons about why

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Speaker 3: you lose these guys. But we were very competitive in

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Speaker 3: those deals. But that's the business. We're far from being done.

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Speaker 5: Coach is a little salty about that.

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Speaker 2: I just.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you said more friendly way Walker, the Kobe Dean.

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Speaker 7: Phil was reading with his opinion.

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Speaker 5: Let me emphasize, Hey, coach, a little insider trading.

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Speaker 3: I do like how revealing that shutt Nimer is on

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Speaker 3: stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: You know what else?

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Speaker 3: Oh well, you didn't like that. I was good, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I was expecting you off what else be?

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Speaker 2: All the time?

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Speaker 4: I recognized that, all right, I gotta go looking here.

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Speaker 4: It's not good enough.

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Speaker 3: Next step for Dallas offense evolve. We got to evolve.

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Speaker 3: I've heard that we're looking at some different things, maybe

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Speaker 3: a little bit more two back letting Hunter letting my guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm pleased with where we were. But because we were

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Speaker 3: one of the best in the league, everyone is studying us.

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Speaker 3: So we have to evolve. That means adding things and

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Speaker 3: taking things out.

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Speaker 6: You can go with a two tight end. Look, all

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Speaker 6: of a sudden, you put the tight end in the backfield.

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Speaker 6: Now you got a regular classic Look. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 6: they got They can do a lot of stuff. I

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Speaker 6: put spam forward in the backfield, have him coming out

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Speaker 6: the back running some routes.

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Speaker 2: There's so much you can do with him, so much

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Speaker 2: you can do with him.

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Speaker 3: Getting back to the tight ends. All right, Schottenheimer doesn't

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Speaker 3: feel they need to add another young running back into

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Speaker 3: the mixed bo Kylie of Jayden Blue, Phil Maffa, Malik Davis.

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Speaker 3: That should be a very competitive position. But we got

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Speaker 3: to get but we got to get those young guys

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Speaker 3: going blue.

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Speaker 7: That's good.

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Speaker 6: Blue has got to come. He has got to show

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Speaker 6: us something. So as you're looking at it, I was

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Speaker 6: going to.

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Speaker 7: Be your literary correspondent here and point out that the

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Speaker 7: Cowboys Draft.

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Speaker 2: Magazine you got to get in the camera.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, sorry, there you go. There we go. Halfway

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Speaker 7: is out and soon to be online to be able

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Speaker 7: to order. And may I do one more thing. You

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Speaker 7: know our guy Rob Phillips, he won a contest with

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Speaker 7: his mystery novel and it got published. Wow, check this out,

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Speaker 7: roots and strollers, Look how far I'm in.

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Speaker 4: This is where I'm at it about.

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Speaker 7: It's about a guy that was a reporter at the

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Speaker 7: San Francisco Chronicle who turned it to a private investigator

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Speaker 7: and he got caught up. They had a baby, and

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Speaker 7: he got caught up with a young girl who was

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Speaker 7: sixteen years old looking for her deadbeat dad, and he

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Speaker 7: ended up searching for this guy right, I almost last

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Speaker 7: night was gonna finish it. I just couldn't put it down.

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Speaker 7: And I'm not exaggerating. It's really good. He had a

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Speaker 7: book signing and I was at it the week last week.

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Speaker 4: If it was a movie, how would you rate it

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Speaker 4: a movie? Yeah? Like, oh is RPG.

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Speaker 7: PG Yeah, But there's some there's some I can't believe

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Speaker 7: he thought of this. That's the surprising thing for Rob

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Speaker 7: Right and his vocabulary and his ability to write conversation.

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Speaker 7: I was like, I wouldn't have no idea how to

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Speaker 7: do that.

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Speaker 3: To pull back the curtain for those who weren't with

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Speaker 3: us twenty something years ago when Mixed Shots first hit

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Speaker 3: the air. Basically we were on the old Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: channel and it was I don't know what we was

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Speaker 3: a talking cowboys, talk, talking cowboys, and so Mickey and

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Speaker 3: I hosted the show during the off season this time

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Speaker 3: of the year, and Rob was fresh out of college basically.

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Speaker 7: Actually an intern. But he was an intern.

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Speaker 3: He would read emails. We'd get emails from listeners or

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Speaker 3: whatever or they're made up.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: And he was he would sit, he would sit off

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Speaker 3: to the side.

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Speaker 7: He was off to the side in a little.

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Speaker 3: A wek, but it was a it was a school

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Speaker 3: desk for like the size that a fourth grader would

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Speaker 3: sit in. Here's Rob over here reading with.

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Speaker 7: His little laptocks foot something, Rob right, uh huh. We

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Speaker 7: used to call it the kids table, Like you know,

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Speaker 7: when you're growing up and you had a big family thing,

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Speaker 7: not all the kids sit at the railgulla table. Rob

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Speaker 7: was on those So.

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Speaker 3: Rob then was an inter and then then he became

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Speaker 3: a full time great staff writer for Dallascowboys dot com

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Speaker 3: and look at it now as a family and in

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Speaker 3: his life after Dallascowboys dot com is becoming an author.

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Speaker 7: He's had two book signings so far. Yeah, at bookstores.

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Speaker 7: So anyway, I throw that out.

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Speaker 3: All right, back to football now and the quarterback position

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Speaker 3: on this team, Joe Milton and Sam Howe competing for

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Speaker 3: the backup quarterback spot. According to Brian Schottenheimer, it's an

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Speaker 3: open competition. We're excited for both those guys to go.

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Speaker 3: You can never have enough quarterbacks to develop. I think

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Speaker 3: we developed the quarterback at a very high rate in

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Speaker 3: our system. So there you go. The competition is on.

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Speaker 2: So who quarterbacks now is mixing Sam Sam.

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Speaker 3: Howeam Howell is gone, career is gone, and it's Sam

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Speaker 3: Howl and Joe Milton competing to be Dak's back up

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Speaker 3: is basically right out a year ago when the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: acquired Joe Milton from the Patriots.

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Speaker 7: And Sam Hall. If you remember, was it two years

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Speaker 7: ago he started or twenty twenty three. The Command started

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Speaker 7: every game for the Command all seventeen, So that means

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Speaker 7: he's got I think eighteen NFL starts. That's eighteen more

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Speaker 7: than Milton has.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys are still looking for a nickel cornerback. As you know,

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Speaker 3: Deron Bland can play there, but Dallas would prefer to

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Speaker 3: keep him on the outside, according to Schottenheimer. Okay, looking

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Speaker 3: for anything else of note. Oh, Schottenneimer said he and

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Speaker 3: Osa o'degazua cried during their phone call after Osa was

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Speaker 3: traded to the forty nine ers. That's the nature of

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Speaker 3: the business. I'm thrilled he's going to a place that

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Speaker 3: is a great fit for him.

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Speaker 7: They better make sure that third round pick hits.

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Speaker 3: That's a good pick, which is number ninety two overall.

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Speaker 7: Right, so they got got three in the top.

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Speaker 4: Of that's a good pick.

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Speaker 7: So so they he was talking about the slot corner. Well,

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Speaker 7: I thought that's what Kobe Durant.

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Speaker 3: Was supposed to Well, I think they're basically saying that

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Speaker 3: that Bland. Though Bland can play there, they want to

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Speaker 3: play him play on the outside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I do get the whole thing about nuances and things

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Speaker 6: that nature in football.

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Speaker 1: But this has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com

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