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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Ali.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson, and this is the drive on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. I just watching

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Speaker 2: here Matt as the offensive defense do a little nine

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Speaker 2: on seven drawer.

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Speaker 1: Two guys fighting for a ball. That's what I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at him, trying to see the defensive player.

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Speaker 2: Is Gunner old Schefski came out of there with it.

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Speaker 2: But watch watching the snap of the ball here, watch Tanner,

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Speaker 2: Morgan and Mason Rudolph behind the plays here behind the player.

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Speaker 2: So they're back here at the thirty five. The offense

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Speaker 2: is running keezer, so right now it's Mitch Trubisky in there.

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Speaker 2: Watch both of these guys take the mental reps with this,

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Speaker 2: and Morgan's like pointing out where he was gonna where

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Speaker 2: he would go with the ball. Okay, watch it. So

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Speaker 2: he's gonna he steps up.

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Speaker 1: So he steps up like he okay, like he's in

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Speaker 1: the shotgun almost right motions.

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Speaker 2: He set the guy in motion just like it's just

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Speaker 2: like Trubisky just did.

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Speaker 1: And they're like twenty thirty yards behind the play.

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Speaker 2: And he goes back and he points, Okay, that's where

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Speaker 2: I was going to go. With the ball, and that's

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Speaker 2: where Trubisky went with the ball. So little things like

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Speaker 2: that that you can you can take those mental.

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Speaker 1: Reps like obviously that was the first read and they

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Speaker 1: both saw it the same. It's open take it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's pretty cool, you know. I'm sure that they

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Speaker 1: don't always see it the same, right, Yeah, And hey,

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Speaker 1: number five is doing the best he can just to

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Speaker 1: stick around to make a name for himself getting preseason

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Speaker 1: games and reps are hard to come back. And they

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Speaker 1: can hear in the I'm sure they all.

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Speaker 2: They all have the mics and their yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 2: speakers in their helmets, so they know what the call is.

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Speaker 1: Here. Once again, he's motioning or he's a standard right

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Speaker 1: next to the he's like back in motion.

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Speaker 2: He's looking at me. He and Murdo off both stuff

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Speaker 2: up there, looking at it. He's actually dropping him back.

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Speaker 2: See if he points, he's the shoulder fake there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he came off the read that Mitch threw overthrew.

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Speaker 2: Actually interesting and I wonder then if you know, he

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Speaker 2: then talks to Mitchell, Okay, Mitch, why did you make

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Speaker 2: that thrower?

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Speaker 1: Why what did you see there? Well, I'm sure the

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Speaker 1: quarterback coach brings it up to him, and you or

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Speaker 1: Tanner just sits there and listens, you know, and says, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought was open or you know whatever. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: interesting just bouncing ideas off each other and trying to

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Speaker 1: get each other's heads.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now made some Rudolf in there again. If you

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Speaker 2: if you're Tanner Morgan, you're not getting an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: do this stuff, doesn't mean that you can't learn from.

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Speaker 1: It, right right, right right, You're not this was there.

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Speaker 1: I'm letting it go right or wrong. You're not making

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Speaker 1: the throws, but you're making the reads. And then you

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Speaker 1: go to the film room break it down and quarterback

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Speaker 1: coach says you should have let it go here and

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Speaker 1: he's sitting in the back of his head that's where

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Speaker 1: exactly where I would have went, coach or like that,

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Speaker 1: I at all right and see that. So here he

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Speaker 1: goes again.

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Speaker 2: He's like he even drops back like he's throwing the ball,

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Speaker 2: and then he again he had the same read there

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Speaker 2: that Mason Rudolph did.

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Speaker 1: His eyes, his shoulders, his feet are as if he's

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Speaker 1: the live rep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wonder if that's something that that he

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Speaker 2: came up with or is that something that Mike Sullivan

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Speaker 2: has him done? Sullivan talking to him now about some

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Speaker 2: of the reads here. He's standing exe to Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 2: there as well.

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Speaker 1: So you get sure they're just talking through every play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's great stuff. These are our progressions, these are

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Speaker 1: our rules, you know. That is great stuff.

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Speaker 2: The defense, defensive and offensive lines heading on back over

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Speaker 2: here as.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers get ready, maybe will be I think will

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Speaker 1: be their final probably a two minute or something, highly competitive.

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Speaker 2: Something competitive, and I see Marcel Is motioning for them

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Speaker 2: to go down to the other end of the field

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Speaker 1: So really good coverage on that snap. Yeah, defenses winning

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Speaker 1: the day. I think thus far it was a completion

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Speaker 1: though it was, but it was late, Yeah it was.

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Speaker 1: That was a third read situation. You have me trying

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Speaker 1: to think like a quarterback going through the first one?

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Speaker 1: Was there? Second onesn't there? There's no pressure. We get

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Speaker 2: Different view of it than they do too.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, right, right right, and a lot less knowledge, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot less knowledge. Yeah, this is not This is

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Speaker 1: more like playing Madden from watching it from as.

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Speaker 2: We sit here in the press box above. Chuck Nolefield,

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Speaker 2: I imagine this will be the last snap of this.

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Speaker 1: Let's see here, get a little motion.

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Speaker 2: It should be I mean, the defense should cover this

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Speaker 2: up pretty well. They've got more guys. They got more

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Speaker 2: guys right right. They don't have the pass rush, but

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Speaker 2: they got more people and coverage. They d guys covering

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Speaker 2: five basically, and sometimes it's just TJ. Watt slipping into

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Speaker 2: the flat or whatever. But you're right, it looks like

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Speaker 2: they do have another snap of this. So we got

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Speaker 2: the first team offensive line setting up down here to

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Speaker 2: our right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like maybe a little red zone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the way they're setting high red zone. Yeah, high

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Speaker 2: red zone stuff, which is really what they're working here.

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Speaker 2: So we probably should have guessed that that's what the

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Speaker 2: good point. That's what the nine on seven stuff is here,

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Speaker 2: a little high red zones. It's not all just haphazard.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a sequence to all this and the

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Speaker 2: logic to it. Typically typically believe it or not, they

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Speaker 2: do script this stuff out.

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Speaker 1: This is the stuff that needs work. This is what

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Speaker 1: we need to work on for the Tampa game. Boom

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Speaker 1: got him wide open. Yeah, nailed good rap. Back at

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Speaker 1: the end zone. We got one more, say, Broderick Jones

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Speaker 1: is out there, but he's strolling towards the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: I thought there chatting with some guys. They get the

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Speaker 2: five guys out there, So putting Connor Heyward out there

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Speaker 2: with this third team unit there with Mason Rudolph, so get.

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Speaker 1: A little another rep in the night. On seven.

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Speaker 2: He's got boaking out there, He's got chis Now out there,

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Speaker 2: He's got Butler out there with him.

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Speaker 1: So big receivers all over the field, and Chis is

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Speaker 2: The tight end and the smallest guy out there. And

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Speaker 2: then he tried to squeeze it in there to Hayward

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Speaker 2: over the middle and that didn't work. There's the horn

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Speaker 2: and now we'll go back down to the other side

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Speaker 2: here and work eleven on eleven.

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Speaker 1: There should be a very spirited practice or a spirited

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Speaker 1: period considering the next time they're going to be on

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Speaker 1: this field is Sunday. Yeah, Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they won't be back here until Sunday, So don't

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Speaker 2: come out tomorrow or Saturday.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna be here. You're not gonna be here.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be in Florida. I will be in Florida.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not really looking forward to right right ninety plus

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Speaker 2: degree weather, but you know, it is what it is. Ye.

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Speaker 1: I am excited to see live action though against absolute

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Speaker 1: that part for sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering when it's gonna rain while I'm down there,

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Speaker 2: because it rains in Tampa every time I'm down there.

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Speaker 2: But isn't the rain like it just rains every day

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Speaker 2: for about twenty minutes and then it's gone, But it's

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Speaker 2: usually a pretty heavy and it goes heavy and puff

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Speaker 2: it's gone absolutely in case I don't enber your travel

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Speaker 2: schedule either. But first team offense against the first team defense. Here,

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Speaker 2: they break the huddle and Pickett is in the shotgun

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Speaker 2: with Nagie Harris to his left.

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Speaker 1: Gun there from the twenty two going in, you get

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Speaker 1: a little that orbit motion behind them there that oh

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Speaker 1: wow and that wide up pick and touchdown. Yep. Maybe

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Speaker 1: the safety comes over knocks a lot of bounds, but maybe.

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Speaker 2: But they they Joey Porter Junior on there out there

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Speaker 2: bid on the flat on Austin going to the flat

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Speaker 2: and there's some they're discussing that.

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Speaker 1: Now. I think that that is it's tim and Roberts.

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Speaker 1: That's thirty four. No, you're right, that is that's Chin

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Speaker 1: and Sullown. But it was kind of an I got him,

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Speaker 1: you got him? Who got him? They're both kind of

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Speaker 1: looked at each other with their poems in the air,

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Speaker 1: like somebody screwed that up. Obviously that was Kenny found

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Speaker 1: it quick, easy pickings. Easy pickings. You've used had a

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Speaker 1: couple of times this week. Absolutely. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: going away. That should be somebody's headlines, hammerhead on something.

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Speaker 1: Kendrick Green and going across the formation. The misdirection runs. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: basic zone principles, but with some little spruce set up

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Speaker 1: with a big you know, center flying across the formation,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna sneak him across the fort No, No,

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Speaker 1: I think people are gonna be where he's out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it would have been a nice run, Yeah, I think so, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We got They're at the thirteen now, looks like they're marking.

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Speaker 2: This is a second down play, empty back, so they're

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Speaker 2: moving the ball, empty backfield here for Kenny Pickett. Now

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Speaker 2: he motions Anthony McFarlane into the backfield to his left.

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Speaker 2: He's got Pickens out there to his left as well

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Speaker 2: with Alan Robinson, and with nothing open yet, had some

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Speaker 1: That would have been a substantial scram but I don't

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Speaker 1: think he gets in the end zone. Would have been

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Speaker 1: a first down for sure. Probably, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: moving the moving.

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Speaker 2: The sticks now up to the They're gonna say he

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Speaker 2: was down at the six six yeah, yeah, so that

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Speaker 2: would have been a first down.

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Speaker 1: So this is they put it at seven. You're right,

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Speaker 1: this isn't two minutes, but it is play after play

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Speaker 1: after play, right, you know, right, whatever you get, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go from there. They're saying this is third down here. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, Maybe they're just scripted plays. It might

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Speaker 1: be a little scripted. Once again, Gentry out there, Harry

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Speaker 2: Picketts left motions Gentry and he goes back across from.

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Speaker 1: Defense back to the right side. Oh caught Robinson a

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Speaker 1: little off guard shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Trying to throw that back shoulder and uh, Sullivan in

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Speaker 2: the coverage there kind of tied him up a little

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Speaker 2: bit and couldn't get the arms back.

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Speaker 1: Ball came out hot and there was a pretty good rush,

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Speaker 1: and frankly, I'm kind of happy to see pick it

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Speaker 1: and not hold the ball and extend it and kind

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Speaker 1: of cheat you. Yeah, you guy a chance to catch

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Speaker 1: the football there. Then if he gets his eyes around quick,

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Speaker 1: you're fine. Otherwise it's probably a sack. Yeah, the worst thing,

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Speaker 1: it's an incompletion.

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Speaker 2: Noet miss Trubisky out there with the second team offense

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Speaker 2: as well as the second team defense now on the field.

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Speaker 2: Looks like uh Pierre and Barku the second team cornerbacks there.

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Speaker 1: Who's in the slot. Good for Barkou though, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I bet we see a lot of him. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I bet you do. Yeah, a lot of time dump

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Speaker 1: My hunches. If he would have played it's ninety eight

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Speaker 2: So they will not be back on the practice field

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Speaker 1: So what's next week's schedule off the top of your head. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Monday is an off day.

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Speaker 2: They practice Sunday, they're off, Monday, they're back here Tuesday

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Speaker 1: Wow, that is it. We got three days left, Matt,

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Speaker 2: Much to the relief of anybody who's been listening.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of hearing you too. Married couple.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably so. But another good practice.

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Speaker 2: It, absolutely is. We're going to take a break. He

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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson, I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine

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Speaker 2: seventy are ongoing live coverage from Steelers training camp practices

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Speaker 2: here at Saint Vincent College practice session number twelve, wrapping up,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: Guy, I'm Dale Lallly. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: This is a drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN

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Speaker 2: nine seventy and Matt, you sent me these earlier today.

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Speaker 2: The Thorn rankings, Oh yeah, offensive lines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now we didn't agree on his offensive line rankings.

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Speaker 1: No Steelers ranking. And it's funny. I know, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: comes back He's like, I hear you. I might be

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Speaker 1: wrong on it. They were past blocking only rankings. These

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Speaker 1: he's high on Jones but thinks it's going to be

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Speaker 1: One thing about their protection last year, whoever charts this,

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Speaker 2: Just might be a reflection of who you're playing too. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Of course. Of course they play some of the better

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Speaker 1: I think is a pretty good player that not everyone realizes.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, there's a lot of questions in

436
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Speaker 1: their front. I think Manda Bouque is going to be

437
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,160
Speaker 1: a big pass rusher, though, I mean he's not Cam Hayward. Yeah,

438
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: I mean I think he's probably their best defensive lineman

439
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 1: right now, and that's a little questionable.

440
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 2: Now you're looking at Away Roderck Washington just a metabuquet

441
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 2: tyas Bowser. I mean, that's right, nondescript as it.

442
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 1: Gets twenty eight.

443
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 2: He has the Jaguars at twenty nine, the Rams at thirty, the.

444
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,199
Speaker 1: Four Rams, I mean there's like one name you recognize.

445
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 2: Barron Young, Aaron Donald, Kobe Turner, and Michael Hoped.

446
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 1: So you think Aaron Donald's going to see any double

447
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 1: teams this year?

448
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 2: He might get quaudruple team don every I mean, you

449
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 2: get doubled and tripled with good people around him.

450
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, if he ends up with ten sacks

451
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 1: in the whole world's like, oh, Aaron Donald's really slipping.

452
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 1: The whole line's blocking the guy. Yeah, right.

453
00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 2: The Texan's coming at thirtieth on that part portion in

454
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 2: the Tier four teams you're looking at, and this is

455
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: a much bigger tier here, below average pass rushing defensive lines.

456
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: The Broncos are at twenty one.

457
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost Draymont Jones. That's not a small loss

458
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: for yeah at twenty two. Or the Bengals, Yeah, I mean,

459
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: like as good as Reader is, he's not helping there

460
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: that much. And even their their ends, well, not Hendrix

461
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: but Hubbard. He's more of an edge setter. Yeah. I mean,

462
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: so they were a big, physical d line, but they're

463
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 1: not a speedball. Twenty three are the Colts. I can

464
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: understand that a lot of the ends are really unproven. Yeah,

465
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 1: Quitty pay and the guy's name I can't keep on, Yeah,

466
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: I say, I can't really pronounce well, you know. So

467
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: there's a couple early picks that they need to step up.

468
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 2: Twenty four is the Panthers, which you wouldn't think they

469
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: got Brian Burns and Brown on that front line.

470
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Speaker 1: That's does he include justin Houston there or did he

471
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: put these out before he must put before two days

472
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: ago or something, right? But he helps at twenty Brown's

473
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: a really good player that the tackle yeh, he's more

474
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: of a run stuffer. Is the Vikings that would be

475
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: pretty low on them as well. Yeah, they got one,

476
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: dude too. Twenty six is the Seahawks. Okay, a lot

477
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: of unproven guys there too, like the Wassus better than

478
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: people think, and they do have Draymond Jones, but not

479
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: a star power.

480
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Speaker 2: Tier three is a huge one. The solid pass rushing lines.

481
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Speaker 2: We'll go from the bottom up on this one. Okay,

482
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: you're looking at at twenty the Lions.

483
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: Okay, they have a I forget his name. Who are

484
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: the ends that he lists? Please?

485
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: He has James Houston and Julian Aquara and then Aiden Hutchinson,

486
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: Charles Harrison, Romeo Aquara.

487
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 1: James Houston's the name that is pound for pound was

488
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: great last year. I mean he's a really undersized two

489
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds speedball, but got to the quarterback

490
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: time and time again. They may have stole someone in

491
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Speaker 1: the late rounds. Nineteen is the Saints. Yeah, it's good

492
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: you add Brian Bersee to the mix too. Eighteen is

493
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Speaker 1: the Bucks through the Steel. As we'll see this weekend.

494
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: They still a Viteveya and Jack Barrett. Yeah, some Joe

495
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: try On Schwanka. Yeah they're not particularly young, but yeah, I.

496
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: Mean at seventeen are the Dolphins. They're paying an awful

497
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: lot of money to those guys. Yeah, Seventeenth, I mean

498
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: you're looking at Jalen Phillips, Christian Wilkins, Zach Siler, and

499
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb.

500
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: See. I look at that more of a reflection of

501
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: there's just so many good D linemen in the league,

502
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: you know, Like, that's a good D line. They're really

503
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: happy with their front. But it's average. Yeah, I mean

504
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: that's what average is. An average. It's seventeenth.

505
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: Sixteen are the Raiders. You're talking about the team with

506
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 2: Max Crosby and Chandler Jones the.

507
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: First round picked too, ye, Tyree Wilson, right, the tackles

508
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: are pretty nondescript. Fifteen is the Patriots. Everybody, lot of dudes.

509
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: Matthew Juden was the fifteenth best player in the league

510
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: or whatever it was roading, which is ridiculous to me.

511
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm a bar More fan. Yeah, and is a good

512
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: player too, but he's not an every down player. Uh.

513
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: At fourteen are the Falcons. Imagine that. I think that's

514
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: a little rich.

515
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: So it's Bud dupre Kalay slash Kalais Campbell, Grady Jarrett,

516
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: David Anyamata, Lorenzo Carter and Arnold Ebikehetti.

517
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: So it's better. I mean, you added Bud, you added Campbell.

518
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: Maybe the draft picks grow up. But over the last

519
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: two years they have like thirty eight total sacks.

520
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they've changed that out. Other than Jared,

521
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 2: everybody else's k right.

522
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: Finally, I mean, I bet next year's first round pick

523
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: quarterback aside is a defensive lineman. Thirteen is the Bills.

524
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: They got a lot of dude, they've got They've spent

525
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: a lot of draft capitals.

526
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: Oh and Von Miller, right, yeah, they just gave it

527
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: Oliver a big contract. Like, I bet they're not happy

528
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: with their investment. Ye, considering all that they've in. I

529
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Speaker 1: mean a lot of high pas be Thirteenth yeah, right.

530
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Speaker 1: Twelve is the Chargers Bosa Mac.

531
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Speaker 2: I mean those are two. Both of those guys were

532
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: on the top one hundred list. I didn't think Mac

533
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: belonged on there, but they need to say in the field. Yeah,

534
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 2: the problem with them is that the interior guys are no. Yeah,

535
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: that's lower on them.

536
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too.

537
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: Eleven is the Browns, I get it, Miles Garrett Dalvin Toallins.

538
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson doesn't rush. He doesn't much rush path rush.

539
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: They listened.

540
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: Darius Smith is an interior guy and in an edge

541
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Speaker 2: of ur wonk.

542
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: I just actually did a half hour Cleveland Brown's hit

543
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: today and we were talking a lot about their D

544
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: line and Smith will definitely bounce into D tackle in

545
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: passing situations. I mean, he's that type of guy. And

546
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: then one of those other dudes will come out and

547
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: be opposite Garrett. So their D line is a lot

548
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: better than it was it was.

549
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: Really you know what that tells me that they're going

550
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: to face if it's third and five, teams are going

551
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: to run the ball on them with that. I mean

552
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: that's a tiny, tiny right defensive line.

553
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't know who their third and five D tackles

554
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: will be. Will it be Tomlinson and Smith? Maybe, because

555
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: then you at least have one run stuffer and then

556
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: Garrett and Oca wonk Wo. I think that needs to

557
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: work itself out.

558
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's complete line at all. No,

559
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: I think again, we've seen that. You know, see the

560
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: Steelers when they had to specialize with us. Well, it's

561
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: just it's third and six. We got to play these

562
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: guys it's third. The idea is to have guys that

563
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: just do everything.

564
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, and they'll have to not have to

565
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: scheme it up. I have a perfect example of that too,

566
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: is their third round pick Eco. I mean he's just

567
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: a big anchor and he's going to play on first

568
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: and second downs and the most the most right. Uh

569
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: Ten is the Chiefs. Jones carries a lot away to

570
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: first round. Last two years, ed rushers or first round

571
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: picks late, I don't think they're special players. Uh nine

572
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: is the Packers. They got dudes.

573
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 2: I mean they mister Shuan Garry huge, huge, and they

574
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 2: need Devonte Wyatt to hit why it needs to step up.

575
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: And then they drafted Lucas fan Ness this year.

576
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Speaker 1: I forgot about that. That's they invest so many first

577
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: round picks on defense. Uh not. Eight is the Giants.

578
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: Lawrence is a star. I think Thibeau is gonna be

579
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: pretty good.

580
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, other Thanan's okay good.

581
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a number two type, you know. Uh Seven,

582
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: this is kind of surprises the Titans. I don't know

583
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: if I agree with that. Arden Key, Jeffrey Sion, I

584
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: love Jeffrey Simmons.

585
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Denico Autry's always underrated quality player and Harold Landry.

586
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: They didn't have Landry at all last year. Arden Key

587
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: doesn't move the needles. No, he's okay, right, I mean

588
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: there's a couple we've talked about that I would have

589
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: ahead of them.

590
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Six is the Commanders. That's the last of the

591
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: very good pass rushing defensive lines.

592
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: That one could be elite, should be elite, should be

593
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: elite with what they've again, four first round picks on

594
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: that it should be elite, and they've all had good moments.

595
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: Chase Young has to go back to being batman though. Okay,

596
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: the top tier is the elite pass rushing. These are

597
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: pretty studeley grooves. Yeah.

598
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: At five, you have and there's only five of them.

599
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: You have the Jets, Carl Lawson, Quinnin Williams, John Franklin Myers,

600
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: Jermaine Johnson, Slash Will McDonald.

601
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: They have depth. Then they bring it to your waves

602
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: and their last two first round or two they've had

603
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: to use the first round picking each of the last

604
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: two drafts on edge rushers. You know, I mean, they're

605
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: not super high picks, but McDonald and Johnson Williams is

606
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: a straw that starts a drink. Four, surprisingly enough is

607
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: the Eagles who had seventy sacks last year, and you

608
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: swap out Hard Grave for Jalen Carter Jayleen Carter and

609
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: you adding Olan Smith. You know, I mean that's still

610
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: pretty darn good. I just don't know how much more

611
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox has. Yeah, Brandon Graham as well. Yeah, I

612
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: mean they're going tooth absolutely. They had seventy sacks in

613
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: their fourth I mean we haven't mentioned the team we're

614
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: looking at right now at three is the Steelers. Yeah.

615
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: I think that's not far off at all. Here's what

616
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: he says.

617
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh will remaining in the top tier for the foreseeable

618
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: future thanks to Cameron Hayward defying time and still dominating

619
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: at thirty four years old, while TJ. Watt rejoins the

620
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: lineup after suffering a season ending pectorial tear. Was it

621
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: season ending and last year's opener against the Bengals, So

622
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: Brandon's wrong about that?

623
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

624
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: Rounding out the units trio is Alex Highsmith, a potent

625
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: coggan the machine with the plus burst, a relentless motor,

626
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: and a series of signature move including a deadly ghost

627
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: technique and inside spin that he used to finish third

628
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: overall in true sack rate. Last year when the Steelers

629
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: signed him to his contract extension, there was some tool

630
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: out there on on social media, who's a quote unquote expert,

631
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: and I tweet out, you know, he's you know, they did,

632
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: you know, signed him and and the guys so maybe

633
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: maybe this year who actually have a higher than a

634
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: ten percent pass.

635
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Pressure rate?

636
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: Honestly, So again, a that's a subjective statue, subjective status,

637
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: right b fourteen and a half sacks last.

638
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: Year he did. And I forget what's he called here,

639
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: like true sack rate. Yeah, that's a metric that Brandon

640
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: made up. But what he is is he his thoughts

641
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: are sacks are not created equal. If you don't block

642
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: me and I get a sack, right, he doesn't give

643
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: you as much credit for that. He has like a

644
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: scoring system for all sacks. And so that's what he

645
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: comes up with with this true sack rate, And what

646
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: he means by that is high Smith earned his sacks. Yeah,

647
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: he beat blockers, he beat double teams. He didn't luck

648
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: into a bunch of sacks. You know. So some of

649
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Speaker 1: these metrics are you know, they're not gospel, they're not

650
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Speaker 1: written in stone and pressures aren't gospel written in stone.

651
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but people look at that stuff and they again,

652
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Speaker 2: they treat it well.

653
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Speaker 1: Pro football focus should do right right right right this.

654
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: I see this number on a page and that's the fact. Yeah,

655
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Speaker 1: kind of not really.

656
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Speaker 2: After those three, the team is rounded out by solid interiors,

657
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: splash presence in Larry Okunjobi twenty twenty three second round

658
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: pickke On Eventon in high end rotational set of edge rushers,

659
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: and Marcus Golden in twenty twenty three fourth round draft

660
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: pick Nick Krbig forming a high floor, high ceiling seven

661
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: man rotation.

662
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it absolutely is real quick on this. I meant

663
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: to mention it the other day because I was listening

664
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Speaker 1: to the Athletics Podcast with Robert Mays and Nate Tice,

665
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: two people I really really respect. It's an excellent podcast.

666
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: And what they did this exercise with offense and defense

667
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: and they both had homework assignments, give me your top

668
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: ten defenses for next year, and they start reading them off.

669
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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't have that one. Oh I had this one.

670
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: You know, like they didn't compare notes. They both had

671
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: the Steelers in the top five and defenses and number

672
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: one in the division. Yeah, yeah, and they both were

673
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: kind of shocked the other one had it. And they

674
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: start going through it and they're like they got stars

675
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: or front sevens, the top five or the front front lines,

676
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: the top five group because Tomlin dude knows a little

677
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: bit about defense, you know, like I mean, I mean,

678
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: it was very similar conversations. They were just kind of

679
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: mirroring at you other. It was interesting.

680
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a good defense. Number two

681
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: is the forty nine Ers, the team, the Steel, the Open.

682
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: That's Nick bos although Nick Bos is still holding out

683
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: right right, so we'll see what happens to that. Javon Hargrave,

684
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: Eric Armstread and Drake Jackson.

685
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: See Drake Jackson's the wild card there. I mean bosas

686
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: hold out aside. He was the second round pick last

687
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: year when it looked like they did need de lineman,

688
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: and now they've lost a few and now he's getting

689
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: thrown into the action as can he be Robin you know,

690
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: as we know, everybody hates the Drake. They Drake yeap so,

691
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: but he's a question mark for them. Number one is

692
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I get it, Parsons carries a lot of weight.

693
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: Get the Marcus Lower and law Doriance Armstrong, Oh so o,

694
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: Diggi Zowa and Amaze Smith. Yeah, the interior guys are okay,

695
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's.

696
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Speaker 1: Just so happens. I just keep pumping my podcast here

697
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: left and right. But we had locked on Cowboy host

698
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Speaker 1: on today and we were talking a lot about Mazzie Smith, Like, man,

699
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: this guy didn't have any sacks. He's a super ath

700
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Speaker 1: everything that everybody knows about it. And he's like, yes, you

701
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: know what they did though, They completely changed his stance

702
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: since he got to Dallas. You know, he was more

703
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: of a two point or four point come out high

704
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: eat space and now they're letting him be an athlete.

705
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: And he said, I don't know if it's gonna work

706
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: or not, but it sure looks good so far in practice,

707
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: and maybe he's gonna be a different player. He's dealing

708
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 1: with some tend nights. Yeah, he's in some time too,

709
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: which isn't a good sign young player like that. No,

710
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: especially with a big body like his. Yeah, but that

711
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Speaker 1: is the past.

712
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Speaker 2: The thorign defensive line rankings against the pass, you know,

713
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: defending the pass, rushing the passer, but the Steelers have

714
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Speaker 2: ranked pretty high if you're just doing this is all

715
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Speaker 2: around units in terms of run stopping only be much different.

716
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Speaker 1: No, I don't. I really don't know. You like, i'd

717
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: move the Bengals up a little bit more than they were,

718
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Speaker 1: but I don't think I would put Philly over them

719
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: or who was fifth somebody else was pretty good the Jets. Yeah,

720
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Speaker 1: I don't think it changes much.

721
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either.

722
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Speaker 1: I think you know, their edge defenders are not lightweight

723
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: to get pushed a round, that's for sure.

724
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that's all The interior guys are both good

725
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: against a run.

726
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Plus you can roll out of Nose and Benton

727
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: and some of the beef of your guys too, that

728
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: aren't big factors in the passing game.

729
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just think they got a They've

730
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Speaker 2: they built a lot of depth, built a lot of

731
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Speaker 2: depth on both sides of the line, and I think

732
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: that's gonna play pay dividends throughout the course of the season.

733
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: And again, their edge cetters, going back to basically my

734
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: whole lifetime, they're never gonna take Yonic and Dockway. That's

735
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: just trying to speed Russia and you know, play the

736
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: run on the way the passer like. Those guys are

737
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: very going back to Lloyd and Green and Porter, et cetera,

738
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. The names are super long.

739
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: Those guys are always going to be forces in the edge,

740
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: absolutely in the run game.

741
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. He is Matt Williams, and I am Dale Lallie.

742
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

743
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 2: and ESPN nine to seventy are live ongoing coverage from

744
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: Saint Vincent College where the Steelers just wrapped up practice

745
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: session number twelve a little bit ago. A lot of

746
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Speaker 2: players still out here in the field getting some additional

747
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: work in, but we're gonna go to a break. He

748
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Speaker 2: will be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: These Black and Gold fan habit, howcome back. I'm dal Lalli.

750
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson, and this is the Drive on

751
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine to seventy are live

752
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: ongoing coverage from Steelers training camp here at Saint Vincent

753
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: College and Matt. Practice is wrapped up almost an hour now,

754
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: but there's still several players out there summer signing autographs.

755
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: Some of the offensive linemen still working out there on

756
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: some past sets and things of that nature. And looks

757
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: like James Daniel's out there. That's Spencer Anderson that he's

758
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: working with there.

759
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: Isaacs Alamalo was out there quite a bit and going

760
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: pretty vigorously on his own and then mentoring these guys

761
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: a little bit as well. You mentioned it with your

762
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: interview with coach Meyer yesterday. I guess it was. Yeah,

763
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: all days run together. Of course, his unit is probably

764
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: leading the team in fields practice activities, right, Yeah, out

765
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: there just refining little things. I mean, such a technical position.

766
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: It's not just be big and smush the guy in

767
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: front of you. You got to have your hands and

768
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Speaker 1: feet together. And they're really working on that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really think, you know, offensive line is

770
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: more so maybe than any other position. You are a

771
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Speaker 2: unit and you're only as good as the collection of players.

772
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Speaker 2: It's not like, oh, they got a start like this

773
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: forty nine ers team that the Steelers play in Week one, right,

774
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: they got maybe the best left tackle in the game,

775
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: and then the rest of it's kind.

776
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Of eh questions. Yeah, I mean they're not super talented

777
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: with their other four. I think Trent Williams is the

778
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: best offensive lineman in the game right now, but he's

779
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: also like thirty seven years old. He's probably going to

780
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: fall off. Frankly, I think I'd rather have the Steelers group.

781
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: I mean I would trade any one of them for

782
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: Trent Williams for this year, of course, but depth and

783
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: questions and all that concern me. I like how the

784
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: Steelers are built where there's a lot of options, there's

785
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: a lot of puzzle pieces. Some guys can play multiple positions.

786
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: You have youth, you know, you're growing together. And again,

787
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Speaker 1: I can't stress this enough. For as young as they are,

788
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: they have an uncanny number of starts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is remarkable. I mean, if you look

790
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: at this offensive line from just three years ago, Wow,

791
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: the only guys still on the guys who are still

792
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: on the team chokes. Yeah, he's the only one that's

793
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: the starter, right, right, this is the I'm talking about

794
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: the line that started three years ago.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Kevin Dotts and.

796
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: Kendrick Green are on still on the team, but they're backups.

797
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: They've been upgraded on and that's it, and that's it, right,

798
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: And they were really young just three years ago. That's

799
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: just three years ago, right, and fortunately for them, I mean,

800
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: in today's NFL continuity is really hard to come by.

801
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: And this isn't challenging the statement you just made, but

802
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: it's nice that they're bringing back all the stuff from

803
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: last year. So they're starting to really build that continuity

804
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: that they didn't have three years ago to two years ago.

805
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: And then they're adding on top of it with veterans

806
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: and used you know, leadership as well as potential.

807
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that the arrow is still

808
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: pointed up on that group. I mean, if I look

809
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: at it, you know, Dan Moore's in his third year.

810
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 2: Sam Malos, well, he's a veteran, is in year.

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Speaker 1: Eight, right, he's in his prime. Yeah, those guys could

812
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: play till they're thirty five years old, especially the guards, right.

813
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: Mason Cole's in year six.

814
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: James Daniels year six, and he was a young year

815
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Speaker 2: saved as a puppy. Yeah, he came in as a

816
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: true junior. Same thing with Chukes of Corps for a

817
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: year six, but came out as a true junior.

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Speaker 1: And then think about that the right side of the

819
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: line mentioned, you know, age versus starts. It's crazy young crazy.

820
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: As much as they've been in the league, as many

821
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Speaker 1: years experience they have, they're still really young men.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you added, you know, a guy like

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Speaker 2: Broderick Jones to that equation as well, who's a twenty

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Speaker 2: one year old.

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Speaker 1: I say, he's just recently turned twenty one, I think too.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what his birthday is, but he's I

827
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Speaker 1: mean he's a young guy as well.

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Speaker 2: So and you know the Kendrick Greens and Nate Herbig

829
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Speaker 2: Nate Herpik is a fifty year veteran.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not a twelfth year guys hanging on for

831
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Speaker 1: dear life.

832
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: So I mean they've got options there and laps and

833
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 2: you know, youth.

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Speaker 1: It's just yeah, it is. I like what they've done

835
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: on the O line. They're not all superstars and we

836
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: know that, but there's I mean, I think Chukes is

837
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: the only one off top of my head whose contracts

838
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: up after the year or two. Maybe Mason Cole's. But

839
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Speaker 1: I don't think you have to break the bank to

840
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: keep them. Or if they hit the open market and

841
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: you know, want a bigger pay day and you're willing

842
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: to give out, you're still equipped to handle that. You know.

843
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of nice pieces they're fitting together.

844
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it absolutely is. And so I'll be interested to

845
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: watch those guys perform a little bit. Yeah, you know,

846
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: again against a pretty good defensive front for the I

847
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: don't know how many guys Tampa Bay is going to play,

848
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: no clue.

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Speaker 1: They do some older dudes. I wonder they won't. Probably

850
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: play a lot the Beata Bays of the world. And

851
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: that's a blitz happy team too. Oh yeah, I like

852
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: to get after you. Coach Bowls is very aggressive. I mean,

853
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: he's very blitz happy. Who knows how they game plan

854
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: the preseason, you know, but either way, it's gonna be hot.

855
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna run your stuff. Yeah, I mean, it's gonna

856
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: be hot, and it's gonna be real hot, really hot.

857
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: And played that many snaps against a you know, a

858
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Speaker 1: non Steelers opponent. The old line is going to be

859
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: challenged no matter who the opponent is, but especially in

860
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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay heat, you know, in the first preseason

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Speaker 1: game of season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to seeing that group work together. I'm

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Speaker 2: looking forward to the defense where you look at that

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Speaker 2: two of them, new starter at strong safety, whether it's

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Speaker 2: KZ or Neil.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's a new starter and then.

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Speaker 2: A new starter at left cornerback, a new starter at

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Speaker 2: the Nickel.

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Speaker 1: Situation spot Yeah, and maybe Benton's a new starter at knows.

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Speaker 2: I mean they've they've wrapped mons Ravius Adams here or

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Speaker 2: Foca quite a bit. It's all said, Yeah, those guys

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Speaker 2: are going to play for sure. But yeah, I want

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Speaker 2: to see that. I honestly I want to see what

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Speaker 2: Nick Kerbig looks like as well. Yeah, he has quick

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Speaker 2: off the edge against somebody you know, he doesn't know

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Speaker 2: as he has been here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope he doesn't get bullied, you know, and

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Speaker 1: pushed around because he's not the biggest, most physical guy.

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Speaker 1: But he's a good football player and he's certainly won

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Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have a spotlight on. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I need to see a lot

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Speaker 2: from Marcus Golden, No, but I do want to watch

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Speaker 2: a lot of Nick Kerbig.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He's a good one to play a lot of

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Speaker 1: snaps and hopefully disruptive in the passing game. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see how that goes. But we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get the break he is. Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lully.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: and ESPN. Nine to seventy are live coverage from Steelers'

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Speaker 2: training camp here at Saint Vincent College. The practice for

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Speaker 2: the day has wrapped up.

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Speaker 1: Steelers have a walk.

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Speaker 2: Through tomorrow, then head to Tampa to play their first

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Speaker 2: preseason game off Saturday. They'll be back here on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: then off on Monday, back here Tuesday and Wednesday, and

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Speaker 2: that will do it for training camp twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Matt and I will be bringing you all

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Speaker 2: the action here on the days that they do practice,

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Speaker 2: but that's going to do it for our number two.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with our number three right after this