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Speaker 3: Authority, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentine and
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Speaker 3: of deep soil, deep soil. Yeah, keep the name him
Speaker 3: uh and and and and his gift uh speaks.
Speaker 1: Volumes throughout the musical universe.
Speaker 2: I speak on.
Speaker 3: None other than as I bring guest preacher to the podium.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use that when I go on my.
Speaker 1: Next to you are you man? You are brother man.
Speaker 1: I love you brother to be him man.
Speaker 2: I gotta shake out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We've been doing this.
Speaker 2: A long long time, brothers for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know.
Speaker 3: Along with the brotherhood, you know, today I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, we get to we get to talk to
Speaker 3: talk about b J the Chicago kid.
Speaker 1: We get we get to we get to talk shipped.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying
Speaker 3: you you you get to say you God, damn right, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead and look who I mean it.
Speaker 1: Then you're damn right. Yes on who they say.
Speaker 3: I am multi faceted, multi talented. More importantly man, uh,
Speaker 3: just a good brother man, Thank you man, good brother man.
Speaker 3: You know there's that's universal, that's not just language we talk.
Speaker 3: That's that's around the world. Very important to this thing.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I think you are very important to this thing. Thank
Speaker 2: you man, Thank you saying same. That's why I showed up.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: I was at the Raphaels down the street, said let
Speaker 2: me go ahead and try about with in between these
Speaker 2: episodes and Tom and Jerry Snookie get my sweat out
Speaker 2: the first off and shout out to the cooogie.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: You are not getting away from here without giving me
Speaker 3: the connect I got.
Speaker 2: You say, let's the real, authentic o G not the
Speaker 2: I don't want none of that new You want something
Speaker 2: to put time in you. I want that real threading.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your lineage is crazy. If your family dynamics,
Speaker 3: it's all it's all crazy. Like you know, we we
Speaker 3: we could have you here for two days.
Speaker 1: We can going through the.
Speaker 3: Levels and the progressions. But let's at least let's at
Speaker 3: least touch on the beginning of of what you come from, man,
Speaker 3: and and and and where it all started for you?
Speaker 1: Where was a must.
Speaker 2: I'm the youngest of three boys, both parents in the home. Yeah,
Speaker 2: born and raised in the same home that I left.
Speaker 2: I was born here, moving to l A. Anything they touched,
Speaker 2: I touched basketball, drums, bases in the house a couple
Speaker 2: of times. With music in general, even my mom and dad.
Speaker 2: My dad, he was a choir director in this earlier
Speaker 2: Afro real Bell Bottom days, you know that that era.
Speaker 1: And he was directing the choir with the Afro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I still got pictures. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my dad was a choir director. My mom did the
Speaker 2: same thing, and so they grew up in the same church.
Speaker 2: Then she went to her mom's church for some time
Speaker 2: and then came back to that church. So my mom
Speaker 2: was was directing choirs pretty much the whole time as well,
Speaker 2: learning how to harmonize, doing what harmony was, Knowing how
Speaker 2: strong or how soft you had to sing that note,
Speaker 2: all of that. Like my mom taught me that in
Speaker 2: the car. Like I remember the first time I ever
Speaker 2: had to sing at church. She made me sing with
Speaker 2: my brother and she was gonna have to leave, so
Speaker 2: it was pretty much three of us. We had to
Speaker 2: sing that, and she gave my part in the car
Speaker 2: before we went into church. That was my first sign
Speaker 2: of pressure and getting through it. Of course, I was
Speaker 2: about six or seven years old, bro and I and
Speaker 2: I felt that pressure of have a responsibility of a part.
Speaker 2: Nobody's singing this with you, so if you fall off,
Speaker 2: you're gonna make the ship rocky.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like I understood what the musical responsibility was for
Speaker 2: the first time, outside of a choir or a.
Speaker 1: Group or something. It was just like us this way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 2: Was like all right, and we went in and we
Speaker 2: did it. It was amazing, man. But just little things like
Speaker 2: that takes me back. Even playing the drums for the
Speaker 2: children's choirs. Just stuff like that, it takes me back. Oh,
Speaker 2: for sure, I had gigs. I had church gigs.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: I actually when I moved to l A, I left
Speaker 2: the church to come to LA to pursue writing and
Speaker 2: you know, artistry and so forth, music on a different
Speaker 2: level outside of the drums. So I left forget to
Speaker 2: come here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you were in this church space. I mean
Speaker 3: you talked about six and seven, already harmonized and already
Speaker 3: feeling the pressure.
Speaker 2: My brothers they went on to play like for all
Speaker 2: of the best choirs, the recordings and all like my
Speaker 2: Scooter is Man recorded so many times with so many
Speaker 2: groups and choirs throughout downloadable history. Aaron, Aaron, don't look
Speaker 2: like it, but he the oldest. Everybody like who the oldest?
Speaker 2: I was like, God, like the oldest, but he's the oldest.
Speaker 2: School is next, Scooter is next, and then I'm the
Speaker 2: youngest BJ. So it just man, bro, like my brothers
Speaker 2: were and still is everything to be. They still remain
Speaker 2: big brothers, even in me being an artist, like when
Speaker 2: it comes to like away from all this, you know this, man,
Speaker 2: they still be brothers. Just they they stayed my dogs
Speaker 2: many just like that, and we stay locked. And was
Speaker 2: best dressed in high school. So of course it's his
Speaker 2: reason why I might want to be fresh every day?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Was that because they were able to you know, I
Speaker 1: mean you had a couple of things.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, of course, you know if they left
Speaker 2: too long on leave their closet open. Yeah, the reason
Speaker 2: why girls on the body line we met some girls
Speaker 2: on the body line.
Speaker 4: Bob's close the ship I wantuposed to iron that it
Speaker 4: got a hole in it there. That's not.
Speaker 2: One day Scooter walked in and not I got in
Speaker 2: maybe ten minutes before him and not knowing he was
Speaker 2: coming straight and he caught me with it on mom
Speaker 2: and daddy wasn't.
Speaker 1: Mom, and daddy wasn't that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like his hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, mano, mano, man Yeah, that dope. But but
Speaker 2: I got it off in school. I got that fit off.
Speaker 2: Though I got that fit off, was it worth it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: especially for the times you didn't have that fit. Nigga
Speaker 2: snuck in on the Wednesday would feel like, are you
Speaker 2: in shopping yesterday?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: It ain't Monday, nigga. Niggas nigga, you know niggas go
Speaker 2: shopping on the weekend. So here's a new fit on
Speaker 2: the Wednesday night. Niggas just wait to figure something matter. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know how it is, man. I think that whole
Speaker 2: competitiveness from even like you know, racing to the car
Speaker 2: with your cousins as kids. Man, that whole competitiveness it
Speaker 2: helped us form, like, you know, that other side of
Speaker 2: life that you don't learn in the house, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Almost like with basketball, can struw you
Speaker 2: if you get beyond just hooping at the park and
Speaker 2: you really get to understand what to do to you
Speaker 2: and understanding of what teammates he is, and what survival is,
Speaker 2: how to yeah, how to hold it down? Yeah, every everybody? Yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. All of that was conditioning for surviving in
Speaker 2: this game. Is still surviving in it. Reinventing myself again
Speaker 2: to go again and have a little bit more fun
Speaker 2: like our heroes have done. All of that stuff has
Speaker 2: been seasoning to have a barbecue restaurant that we're trying
Speaker 2: to make not but barbecue chicken.
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 2: Did you?
Speaker 3: Because I know me in church, I didn't know what
Speaker 3: this was. You know, I wasn't even in a space
Speaker 3: where it was even allowed to consider m Like I
Speaker 3: know my older cousins that would listen to to uh
Speaker 3: the secular, that's the word, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I thought that I thought they were like, they're going
Speaker 3: to hell. Well I didn't think they were going to hell.
Speaker 3: I thought they were I thought they were cooler.
Speaker 2: There was an interest, a curiosity.
Speaker 3: I was like, because I used to. You know, I
Speaker 3: used to hang with all my street guys. But at
Speaker 3: a certain point when my grandmother you screamed out the
Speaker 3: rail back and you know what time it was. Everybody
Speaker 3: on the block knew what time it was. Got to
Speaker 3: go to church, That's what it was.
Speaker 2: Same with the sledge chiusehold and they laughed and joke.
Speaker 2: We laughed in joke too, But Nigga, we ain't let
Speaker 2: we ain't leave that that that that portray on cacking
Speaker 2: is still nigga passing my cutback. I mean it. The
Speaker 2: cross on the corner is very important for survival for
Speaker 2: who we are, our understanding of ourselves. While we feel
Speaker 2: those that had the same understanding of across the corner
Speaker 2: before us, while we felt their music so stronger than
Speaker 2: other artists, because Nigga, that's that's us. You listen to
Speaker 2: your uncle yo, your musical pop show, your god daddy
Speaker 2: in another way, but some type of ken to you
Speaker 2: and it feels very familiar, and that that helps us
Speaker 2: with who we are finding out, who we are growing
Speaker 2: to be, what we want more of because they had
Speaker 2: way less than we have but still gave us way
Speaker 2: more than we give it.
Speaker 1: They no pro tools, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, they had way less than what we had,
Speaker 2: but gave more than what we give it for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because imagine that bassic player fucking up all god damn time,
Speaker 2: and we recording this song today. The bass player keep
Speaker 2: sucking up. They're like, Hi, nigga, war more nigga. We
Speaker 2: be going in the alley right easy, my big ma
Speaker 2: beery steak tonight. I ain't being late.
Speaker 1: You gotta be fed up, Jack.
Speaker 4: Stevie wonder whoof.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, I can't see you, but I'm gonna find you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find you.
Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Somebody even told me. They was like, have you ever
Speaker 2: like they said, they know, I love so New so much.
Speaker 2: It said, have you paid attention to how the sound
Speaker 2: changed from before Martin Luther King? And then when he died,
Speaker 2: he said them basslines got needed them, drums can heave.
Speaker 2: Your conversation got a little different. You can hear the frustration,
Speaker 2: the anger, the pain, even if it's a happy song
Speaker 2: that Sh'S slapping now, It's like it certain things changed
Speaker 2: music without the recognition of it changing, because it just
Speaker 2: do something to the people naturally, and if you feel
Speaker 2: what we feel, it's gonna change you in what you do.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. The person that sell phones man,
Speaker 2: when they go back in the they hey, how you doing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, I know it's some type of feeling that
Speaker 2: it's some emotion something. Yeah, And I feel like those
Speaker 2: things have always kind of helped translate the music differently
Speaker 2: and help us change our creative illness in some type
Speaker 2: of way. But I like that's why I like talking
Speaker 2: to old heads.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: They get you thinking with the other side of your
Speaker 2: brain and it be the simplest stuff, you know, and
Speaker 2: just just go of our heads sometimes.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just because I used to watch my
Speaker 3: uncle Leroy. I used to on his date night. I
Speaker 3: used to watch him on his date night. He would
Speaker 3: have the Blue Magic play whatever he had playing. He
Speaker 3: had slow music. Yeah, and you know his room was
Speaker 3: over here, but he had to walk across the kitchen
Speaker 3: to get to the bath, so he'd be going back
Speaker 3: and forth, robe on and he s just yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: just watching him, amazed by him. Got his magic shave on.
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta get clean.
Speaker 2: You got close.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's a bottle with some green spraying
Speaker 3: and that's all I knows, spraying, watching them put on
Speaker 3: clothes to d and the music in the background. It's
Speaker 3: not music I'm I'm used to listen, used to hearing,
Speaker 3: like my grandmother know me play the James Cleveland and
Speaker 3: all of that.
Speaker 1: Master This is different.
Speaker 4: He's playing the secular music.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I'm like what, I'm like, ugly,
Speaker 1: where were you going? Got a date? I got a date?
Speaker 1: I was like, what's that? What you listening? Though? You
Speaker 1: know that's that's that's the music that you play when
Speaker 1: you're on the date. I'm like, what you what you like?
Speaker 1: What you got on? What is the clothes you wear
Speaker 1: when you're going to date?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: The other side. And even then, it wasn't necessarily an
Speaker 3: interest in R and B music. I was more interested
Speaker 3: in just wanting to be like him. Yes, yes, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I was came with that. I
Speaker 3: was just a church.
Speaker 2: Kid, you define everybody'd be like man like at a
Speaker 2: certain age. Man, I was like, man, I really just
Speaker 2: want to be like my post and my uncles with
Speaker 2: a little more money, a few more options.
Speaker 1: But who they were.
Speaker 2: Was it that that was it? That was it? That
Speaker 2: was it. I couldn't wait till my uncles came in town
Speaker 2: and just so I could just talk to him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just talk man, what you been man? Or he asked
Speaker 2: me what I've been doing? And I want to sound
Speaker 2: cool saying what I've been doing, because this nigga's cool.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like nigga.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like even when I said the clone, it's like, I
Speaker 2: think we all love a fry flight, a fly fragrance
Speaker 2: that kind of represent us because of that experience growing
Speaker 2: up having somebody that we admired. It was so ill
Speaker 2: and we knew it was like, that's a key component
Speaker 2: to being fly, and it's about what you got on.
Speaker 2: How you smell when you walk past and be like
Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes if a woman don't smell like nothing,
Speaker 2: I'd rather you just least smell your your hair products
Speaker 2: or something something, but don't smell like nothing. You know something, Yeah, fly,
Speaker 2: a flower smells like something? Yes, yes, yes, And all
Speaker 2: those things are from I passed.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: They say, what you didn't have a lot of when
Speaker 2: you was little, When you get money, you get a
Speaker 2: lot of that, right, So I got a lot of
Speaker 2: sneakers in my house, all type of you know, you know,
Speaker 2: because yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's true. But everything goes
Speaker 2: back to when we were kids and what what we
Speaker 2: were attracted to, what what what? What we thought was dope? Well,
Speaker 2: we always wanted some people weat some people fifty some
Speaker 2: years old, man still got stuff on that list when
Speaker 2: they was a kid.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: Some guys still want that rock and sock and robot.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And I saw I saw the Vultron lines for sale.
Speaker 3: On the other thing, I'm about to buy the.
Speaker 1: Shield kill you. I bought a Megatron. I'm about to
Speaker 1: buy a new Megatron that transforms on its own. I
Speaker 1: gotta have it. I gotta have it.
Speaker 3: You did because I didn't. I used to lie to that,
Speaker 3: lie about having it. Yeah yeah, I got Nintendo. I
Speaker 3: was playing punch Out all night. Yeah, killing it. So
Speaker 3: you talk about your big brothers and and obviously they're
Speaker 3: getting the gigs and all of these things before you,
Speaker 3: like they're like their God. Yeah, when when do you
Speaker 3: get your opportunity to be to be a guy to
Speaker 3: feel like you're at least kind of on their level
Speaker 3: in that space.
Speaker 2: I had to be irritating first. I had to be
Speaker 2: very irritating. First, I'm talking about school to be like Mama,
Speaker 2: I used to call they the musicians. They have a
Speaker 2: little shit over there. I'm like, I want to go.
Speaker 2: I'm saying it out loud in the room.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: You know what I was on?
Speaker 1: You gotta take BJ with you.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I immediately run to the room to
Speaker 2: see what I'm about to throw on.
Speaker 4: How old are you at this point?
Speaker 2: Oh, nigga? That started. That started when I would have
Speaker 2: to say I was at least thirteen. Yeah, And that
Speaker 2: didn't stop till he got the fuck out the house
Speaker 2: for real, because man, his life is so much more
Speaker 2: cracking than mine.
Speaker 1: But I was.
Speaker 2: I knew I was a cool little brother man. Like
Speaker 2: I used to shoot dice against my brother musician homies
Speaker 2: and take their money.
Speaker 1: School.
Speaker 2: You were bet with me and like, Nick, come on,
Speaker 2: make me some money, nigga. You know what I do,
Speaker 2: nigga jump shots and dice. I shoot both of them.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That was my air force
Speaker 2: warm money. My mom was like this all you get
Speaker 2: for shoes, This is gonna get for clothes going back
Speaker 2: to school. You gotta make it work.
Speaker 1: I'm line. Let me take this.
Speaker 2: I'd be right back about thirty minutes. Yeah, go ahead
Speaker 2: to go to Brander Park. Yep, we end up shooting
Speaker 2: jumpers or shooting dice are probably both. And uh that
Speaker 2: that was my way of like earning bread around that
Speaker 2: time in my life. Yeah, in school, Hey, I would
Speaker 2: be at school and be counted absent because I'd be
Speaker 2: in the gym shooting jumpers for money. I come, I
Speaker 2: got three fifty in my pocket coming home today, though,
Speaker 2: fuck it. I I deal with it with my pops.
Speaker 2: That list of all them days you went out the
Speaker 2: house with. Some days you miss home people. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but you deal with it when it comes. But having
Speaker 2: a having the pop step was like that. Like uh,
Speaker 2: like when he left directing in the church, like he
Speaker 2: went to doing security and body Garden. Back then they
Speaker 2: recalled the Bodyguarden Bodyguarden, like Eddie, Eddie Murphy, Muhammad, Ali, Oprah,
Speaker 2: Winfrey Man. The list goes on and on. Every Bulls rally.
Speaker 4: They came through Chicago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every Bulls rally, my daddy worked the stage where
Speaker 2: the bulls walk on the stage. That like he would
Speaker 2: make sure ain't nothing, nigga. I'll tell you what, the
Speaker 2: Blues Fest, the Taste of Chicago, the Jazz Fest. Like
Speaker 2: he was a part of that crew that did all
Speaker 2: of security for that. And my dad was always on stage.
Speaker 2: So one day I'm at the Gospel Fest. It's probably
Speaker 2: like somebody like the Kent's spirituals probably up there. Somebody
Speaker 2: got to walk across the stage. I saw my daddy
Speaker 2: grab a grown man by here and here and turned
Speaker 2: them sideways and walk them off. I say about beat
Speaker 2: the ship out gospel because I know Uncle Ron. I
Speaker 2: call him Uncle Ron, like my daddy buddies all in
Speaker 2: my right there. I know they about the dog this way,
Speaker 2: they about to dog this man on the side. But
Speaker 2: I also said, if my daddy picked the grown man
Speaker 2: up like that, I'm fucking up in school. I'm tripping.
Speaker 2: So are you just bugging out?
Speaker 4: Are you just hooping to gamble? Are you? Are you
Speaker 4: going to school and hooping for the team too?
Speaker 2: Are you just's what's crazy? I'll tell you this, this
Speaker 2: is a real story. I went to school and I
Speaker 2: was one of those kids that grew up in our neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Basketball was always available. I don't care if he was
Speaker 2: in the alley hoop and I don't care you went
Speaker 2: to the park. I don't care we went to the park.
Speaker 2: We ain't supposed to, Uh, hooping in Chicago, you gotta
Speaker 2: go to parks that you know is the opposite of
Speaker 2: how you grew up. You know what I'm saying. Far
Speaker 2: as a gang wise or whatever, you notice in the
Speaker 2: whole nother hood. You've been over here, you know this area,
Speaker 2: but you don't hoop at this park. You ain't never
Speaker 2: got You ain't got out the car and been around
Speaker 2: these niggas, and the car is just as far away
Speaker 2: from you because it is from him. Yeah, Like, nigga,
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta face the wolves. You gotta go
Speaker 2: dance with the lions. And I think surviving in that city,
Speaker 2: it makes you fearless, not being the enemy.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Like, if you know you ain't the enemy, you walking,
Speaker 2: you about to go on the liquor store. It's about
Speaker 2: six niggas out there, and that you out the car,
Speaker 2: you get back, you go back in the car, You're
Speaker 2: gonna look like everything. Yeah, you might well keep on
Speaker 2: what's up? Brother, that's how y'all doing? Before they say something,
Speaker 2: I'm in the mother fucking store. I ain't listening to
Speaker 2: you come talk back. I'm just letting you know, Nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm not the nigga killch your cousin. Nigga, I ain't
Speaker 2: fight you in high school. Nigga, ain't the nigga that
Speaker 2: and you hear my accent, Nigga, I am not. But
Speaker 2: you gotta be fearless if you ain't got shit to hide.
Speaker 2: It's like in a mob, bro, if you ain't got
Speaker 2: it to hide him, since you shake and stutter or nothing,
Speaker 2: and just speak your truth and shut the fuck up,
Speaker 2: you know. And I think that was my way of
Speaker 2: being fearless, of moving out here to La Hell. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all that shit. It's like it. Keep it, keep you
Speaker 2: tied in it, keep you focused too, cause sometimes you
Speaker 2: might do the best out of three and then Nigga,
Speaker 2: that's losing. Like Nigga, let's do one for one alright.
Speaker 2: That means you gotta be so owned to the point
Speaker 2: where if you know about jump shots, like Nigga, you
Speaker 2: hit enough for them. It's a feeling. It's not even
Speaker 2: how far you from the rim or nothing, nigga, it's
Speaker 2: a feeling. And Nigga, I got really good. I got
Speaker 2: used to that feeling. Very fast. And it's kind of
Speaker 2: the same with music. Sometimes when you're on stage, this
Speaker 2: song might be next on the list, but you got
Speaker 2: some guys behind you.
Speaker 1: They can follow you black niggas, they won't.
Speaker 2: They want the one after that, and you're going out
Speaker 2: there and you're black. I don't want to do something different.
Speaker 2: Now they setting up for what did you just told him?
Speaker 2: They getting ready so about and they.
Speaker 1: Know when they hit it.
Speaker 2: It's all of his basketball is knowing how to penetrate.
Speaker 2: You see him over there, but the more you look
Speaker 2: over there, it's gonna you gonna give him up. Theyga
Speaker 2: don't look over there, but let then they keep moving
Speaker 2: you on. That's what made magic so ill. He didn't
Speaker 2: have to give up what he was about to do
Speaker 2: so much and him that's why he got to know
Speaker 2: the passes off and it it's like it's it's a
Speaker 2: it's a certain concentration in penetration that you that you
Speaker 2: get in basketball that you could assess to other things
Speaker 2: in life.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you following school around.
Speaker 2: Man and well when he get in the garage, boy
Speaker 2: boom boom, just like them clothes. He call me with
Speaker 2: the clothes. No, nah, I'll tell you this. If I'm like, Mama,
Speaker 2: I want to go, She's like, you gotta take bj
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take about two three hits in the chest
Speaker 2: before we get in the kind of garage because he's like, niggas,
Speaker 2: you know, I want to do me, Nigga, you're messing
Speaker 2: up my flow. I'm like up, but I'm flying shit niggas.
Speaker 2: By the time we get there, they his homies happy
Speaker 2: to see me. Bro. Yeah, yeah, but I understand what
Speaker 2: I was doing with my brother, like he probably wanted
Speaker 2: to do some a little different than what he told
Speaker 2: my mama, you know how. Yeah, but nigga, they got
Speaker 2: a little sister, nigga, what's up? And that is that
Speaker 2: that happened quite a few times. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I learned a lot from hanging out with my brothers
Speaker 2: far more mature than me. So even when I got
Speaker 2: back around people my age, it stood out in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways. Having a father that I had, having
Speaker 2: a mother that I had, helped me not be outside
Speaker 2: to a certain point, to the point where certain shit
Speaker 2: was only stories. Man, I heard when certain niggas got shot,
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't there. It was it was the survival
Speaker 2: of me. You know what I'm saying, dude, it was
Speaker 2: just it was the illest Aaron being the oldest Aaron
Speaker 2: was you know, he was the one of them. You know,
Speaker 2: get a couple of dollars, man, he like, man, clean
Speaker 2: them gym shoes for me.
Speaker 1: I got you. I'll be there like, yeah, try.
Speaker 2: To clean them souls in the ones. Just so you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I give me a little quick
Speaker 2: ten fifteen dollars, twenty dollars man. I I've learned to
Speaker 2: utilize my big big brothers is big brothers. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, If an't working at the
Speaker 2: store or something, nigga, you know, hit me up there.
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm in school, Nigga. Y'all got to
Speaker 2: shoot hook up at foot locker from the homie. They
Speaker 2: can bring me some something back, Nigga. I'm a little
Speaker 2: and I represent y'all. Nigga. Yeah yeah, nigga, yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: Or nigga, just bring me to y'all level, nigga, because
Speaker 2: I understand it. Y'all know I know how to put
Speaker 2: it together. You got the link, nigga. You got five nigga,
Speaker 2: give me one nigga And if you got five, you
Speaker 2: could get six, especially if you tell Willie it's for BJ.
Speaker 7: So had your brothers did they leave when they turned
Speaker 7: eighteen or did they stay in Chicago though?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the first one to move to LA,
Speaker 2: but my brothers moved out the house.
Speaker 4: And but they still stayed in the city.
Speaker 1: But they still stay in the city. Yep.
Speaker 4: But what made you go to LA?
Speaker 2: Interesting question? So in high school, I I knew I
Speaker 2: I you knew you were special musically, yes, people even
Speaker 2: to get back to the basketball team.
Speaker 1: My bad.
Speaker 2: I'm all over the place. But when I went to
Speaker 2: high school, nigga, I hooped so much every day. Nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm just nigga. You hear basketball and then you looking
Speaker 2: out the windows seeing who out that drilling. Nigga know
Speaker 2: if you should go hoop? If it's time yet, Nigga
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That's the neighborhood. So nigga, yeah,
Speaker 2: I went in there to try to play. But when
Speaker 2: I saw ja uh Varsiti, I was like.
Speaker 1: I don't know, motherfucker. These niggas go overhead jav.
Speaker 2: Real quick, try it out? What's crazy? I mean, it's
Speaker 2: next try But nigga, I didn't even go back. I
Speaker 2: didn't go back. I don't know why, but I still
Speaker 2: hung with the Hoopers Shine Dock Reality and there was
Speaker 2: my niggas, like these were my niggas. So nigga, I
Speaker 2: I walked it in our school. The music side is
Speaker 2: like this hallway. It's like it's like an extension to
Speaker 2: the building. And to get over there, you know, wonder
Speaker 2: over there. You Yeah, I said, I'm about to go
Speaker 2: the church drummer.
Speaker 1: I'm about to go see what these thiggas overhead DoD nigga.
Speaker 2: My cousin. My cousin Charles was in the band. He
Speaker 2: played drums at church. Uh something, about to go and
Speaker 2: see what it's about here, Like nigga Actu you the
Speaker 2: band nigga kind of cool? You should go. So I'm like, then,
Speaker 2: I see you gotta walk past the choir room, the
Speaker 2: piano room, in the band room. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: go in the band room. I got a class with
Speaker 2: this nigga.
Speaker 1: I notice.
Speaker 2: Band coolest hell, it ain't no really nerdy ass band.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's people that more book heavy than student heavy.
Speaker 2: It was some nerds in the band, but the band
Speaker 2: was actually niggas that'll beat your ass, come kick it
Speaker 2: with you, nigga going out to eat nigga where the
Speaker 2: girls at like. I was like, Nigga, I can rock
Speaker 2: with this. So Nigga. I joined the band. I became
Speaker 2: section leader within a month. It was a rule in
Speaker 2: the band that you must know how to read music
Speaker 2: to join this band and to excel in this band.
Speaker 2: I never took music as a as a class, never
Speaker 2: took music as a class.
Speaker 1: I learned.
Speaker 2: I was Nick Cannon.
Speaker 1: You play it, I can remember it.
Speaker 2: Because church is every genre, and one Sunday every genre
Speaker 2: you might got, you got. The next day you're doing funk,
Speaker 2: and next thing though you're doing this nigga, you're playing
Speaker 2: R and B for offering. It's every freaking genre. Bro praise,
Speaker 2: some worship, be country music.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's every So I adapted very fast, and people that
Speaker 2: thought they were supposed to have that spot but never
Speaker 2: look at me like so they make niggas battle. I'm
Speaker 2: used to playing the whole set. You canna make. You
Speaker 2: played this one thing. I'm playing the ram everything, but
Speaker 2: I'm playing it in a way that you wouldn't play
Speaker 2: it because you play it, you come from this way
Speaker 2: of playing it. I come from a different way of
Speaker 2: planning it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I played for my soul. That's how I can listen
Speaker 2: to play. And they got never they never beat me.
Speaker 2: I was sexually until I didn't want to be sexually
Speaker 2: to no more.
Speaker 1: He ain't taking music as a class.
Speaker 2: I just sit back there and let mister Key tell him,
Speaker 2: like to shut the fuck up and man their business.
Speaker 2: Let him fight my battles. Just be a g what
Speaker 2: you're saying the mob don't don't you got sation? But
Speaker 2: my band leader was like one, two three four. He'd
Speaker 2: be like, what the I love mister Key to this day,
Speaker 2: mister Key, because when you're from the hood, majority of
Speaker 2: us need to be talked like that, to be talked.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, respect people.
Speaker 3: It's so much floating around online that that people get
Speaker 3: to judge from from from their private schools and and
Speaker 3: and and from their higher learning and this upper eche
Speaker 3: line of believing. When you don't come from that place,
Speaker 3: you don't understand what it takes to get through to
Speaker 3: a kid with the principal said, if you take him
Speaker 3: home and never bring him back, I'll pass him. Get
Speaker 3: him the fuck here. What are you gonna tell him?
Speaker 3: You want to sit him down and have a conversation
Speaker 3: with him? No, you nah, Pops needed to go upside
Speaker 3: my head need that differently, Yeah, you need that real Badley.
Speaker 1: It was that. What's crazy is.
Speaker 2: We understood what we understood, what we had to do
Speaker 2: every week in the house. He wants to he want
Speaker 2: the house clean Wednesday. God damn Friday. If you don't
Speaker 2: do a Friday, better be done before you leave Saturday
Speaker 2: to do whatever your all day ship is, or you
Speaker 2: got a problem when you return Saturday night, you got
Speaker 2: a problem. And from responsibility to just knowing, like Nigga,
Speaker 2: that ship was right. Nigga, who what the you got
Speaker 2: three boys? My mom is the only lady in the house, Nigga.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nigga yea.
Speaker 2: And nigg we watch her car. We have to do
Speaker 2: all that, Nigga. We have to do all that. Nigga.
Speaker 2: I still love and appreciate and Nigga, I praised my
Speaker 2: mother man, she not just being a mother, but like
Speaker 2: understanding what Sometimes it was important to me that really
Speaker 2: what he's supposed to be like Nigga could be on
Speaker 2: punishment and having a field trip you going to such
Speaker 2: and such a nigga, one of them trips. Everybody need
Speaker 2: need a new outfit my day. Like you ain't getting
Speaker 2: she you ain't even going on trip. My mama like
Speaker 2: give me that slip. She side a slip, nigga. One
Speaker 2: of the trip niggas. She comeing able to little Nike
Speaker 2: fit from coals, some super mess shorts with a knight.
Speaker 2: You sound on that, nigga. Some socks. Nigga, You got
Speaker 2: your shoes a nigga, And she like hurry up and
Speaker 2: put it on while my daddy sleep and she give
Speaker 2: me about it and I go to the trip. It's like, nigga,
Speaker 2: my mom's just you don't beat that kind of love, bro.
Speaker 2: You don't beat the display, the affection, the unconditional love.
Speaker 2: That's like the first time to get of unconditional love
Speaker 2: in the household with some of us. I understand something did,
Speaker 2: but nigga, that was the first sign I ever had
Speaker 2: an undditional love.
Speaker 1: Nigga. My mom will call me right a nigga, I give.
Speaker 2: Me five minutes, I'll be back, or slide the four
Speaker 2: on the mice makes you everything all right? But my
Speaker 2: mom is like that, yeah, but it was crazy. My
Speaker 2: son share the same birthday as my mom. Wow, yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: maybe even my magic was like, you know, like when
Speaker 2: Pops passed away, my pop saw me. He's like, Nigga,
Speaker 2: you gonna have a boy. I was like, Nigga's Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: We all drinking, niggas, playing dominoes, smack of the table, nigga,
Speaker 2: the kids running around a matter of fact, she is again,
Speaker 2: then we're gone and you're praying for the cow before
Speaker 2: the milk. Milk for the cow passed away. Two years
Speaker 2: after that, long and behore. Both my brothers got all girls.
Speaker 2: I had the first boy of our generation. It's like, nigga, wow,
Speaker 2: how to hell you? And he said it laughing. Atter
Speaker 2: you feel this cup of black nigga? So how do
Speaker 2: you know? It's just it's just that thing, man. It's
Speaker 2: it's those things that mand you. The life is real
Speaker 2: beyond your control. Yeah, some things in life. It really
Speaker 2: is magical in a beautiful way.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: When you're moving to La is this is this? Are
Speaker 3: you getting the blessings to make this move? Because I'm
Speaker 3: sure it wasn't a it wasn't an easy one.
Speaker 2: Nigga, I ain't had luggage there it is, I ain't luggage.
Speaker 1: I know that, I know that move.
Speaker 4: Did you have luggage?
Speaker 1: Nigga?
Speaker 2: I had?
Speaker 3: I had whatever I had, Yeah, I had. I had
Speaker 3: a thousand dollars in the car. Let me tell you
Speaker 3: I had shoes. I bought shoes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, gotta have gotta have a kick or to
Speaker 2: just so if you need to gowhere you like it, yeah, drip,
Speaker 2: go back home.
Speaker 4: But you have something that you need.
Speaker 2: To get you yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep. So Aaron
Speaker 2: gets married, schoolter traveling. Both of my brothers had passports
Speaker 2: before me, like traveling the world doing music, not just
Speaker 2: doing some frivolus ship. Like doing music. That was one
Speaker 2: of the first things that I ever saw that made
Speaker 2: me believe that excuse me, that it really it happened,
Speaker 2: happened beyond a gig.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: You know, when does it click for you? Like, Okay,
Speaker 7: I really want to be an artist. I want to start,
Speaker 7: you know, I want a record deal, because I'm sure
Speaker 7: at this point now you're hearing about all the things
Speaker 7: you hear about the record, that you hear about the
Speaker 7: publishing deal you hear. You know what I'm saying like,
Speaker 7: because once you're in it, yeah, now the world opens up.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was low key for real, for I was running
Speaker 2: more close to being a songwriter when I first first
Speaker 2: got here being an artist. I knew I would be
Speaker 2: an artist, never knowing when the time would come. Having
Speaker 2: the job when I landed was a huge blessing. Working
Speaker 2: with Mary and Mary I siting back ground for them.
Speaker 2: I remember doing the church on a Friday with them
Speaker 2: and Saturday week in New York at a baseball stadium
Speaker 2: and bust the rhymes on the show.
Speaker 1: They would do.
Speaker 2: They would fit places, they were finished everywhere, Yeah, everywhere.
Speaker 2: And it was really cool for me to have that
Speaker 2: experience because and like I want so Nigga, I would
Speaker 2: be the songs I'm working on. I would be giving
Speaker 2: warrant c d's like tell me how can I write
Speaker 2: and get better? Or tell me if you could use this.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 4: And so he was mentoring you through a lot of
Speaker 4: it early on.
Speaker 2: In a sense. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then.
Speaker 2: They had like a Taco Sunday or something at their
Speaker 2: crib and I went and Harrold was there. I was like, Nigger,
Speaker 2: I heard a lot about you boy. And when I
Speaker 2: saw how country and southern love and he was I
Speaker 2: was like, bro, man, then give me your number. Bro,
Speaker 2: I gotta call you, because is it cool if I
Speaker 2: just bug you? Sometimes he was like, Shorty, you.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 4: He's probably all the twenty at the time.
Speaker 2: To put the pencil with a pencil. So it would
Speaker 2: be times where during the week I would catch a
Speaker 2: cab to Big John's office just to go in that
Speaker 2: little blue studio back that would held and write, watch
Speaker 2: him write all these songs Baby Mama for Fantasia and
Speaker 2: all that type of stuff. I would begin to see
Speaker 2: real product made in a real factory, in real place.
Speaker 2: And I really didn't know who Big John well, I
Speaker 2: knew what he did.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I didn't know, like to what, I'm just thinking the
Speaker 2: blue here for her, and I'll begin to start like,
Speaker 2: motherfuckers hair, can I come again, nigga? Yeah, you come again?
Speaker 2: After Wire was like what you think about this bridge,
Speaker 2: and He'll walk out and go to the cafeteria, come
Speaker 2: back like you got something. I was like, what do
Speaker 2: you want to here?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I got something that So get that song get up
Speaker 2: being Nikes fresh off the box Mario.
Speaker 1: Place.
Speaker 2: I wrote that Bridge. Not my first. That's my first
Speaker 2: R and B placement for sure. My first placement was
Speaker 2: with Ramsey Lewis Urban Nights. So Kevin Randolph was always like,
Speaker 2: that's like Ramsey, Well rest the piece of Ramsey, but
Speaker 2: that was like Ramsey's piano son, you know. And Kevin
Speaker 2: thought my writing had got to a point where I
Speaker 2: could at least like write that hook and let Ramsey
Speaker 2: do that firse thing and you know, like NI, get
Speaker 2: your feet wet, get your a check, learn how this go,
Speaker 2: get your published name, started to just get it together.
Speaker 2: And that was the beginning. That was like the first
Speaker 2: So then Ramsey called us for the next one. And
Speaker 2: then so I was like, alright, cool, now we in
Speaker 2: and no, nigga, how about this my first R and
Speaker 2: B placement. That's how I'm at tank Oh shit yeah,
Speaker 2: ah shit right. So my brother School is singing background
Speaker 2: for Dave Hollister and school to be playing like little
Speaker 2: songs that make it with Kevin, like the Fireings he
Speaker 2: be playing on the road, So day like who the
Speaker 2: fuck is that? What is that? And Dave wanted to
Speaker 2: meet me, So nig I come to the show when
Speaker 2: they come to Chicago, Dave cool as fuck everything pan out.
Speaker 2: He was like, man, I I'm working on the album
Speaker 2: and I know you could get something for me. Man,
Speaker 2: just just send me some shit, Send me some of
Speaker 2: the best shit you got. So I went back to
Speaker 2: my record some shit, got a song. Place came to
Speaker 2: LA and I do not I wish I remember what
Speaker 2: studio we were in h in Hollywood. It's Tank walks in.
Speaker 2: Dave is working on the joint that Brandy ex husband
Speaker 2: was working on.
Speaker 1: What big bird oh big b yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Thing came in, plugged that keyboard up, had the mother
Speaker 2: fucks getting ship together. And when the keyboard was working,
Speaker 2: I was like, this nigga crazy, This nigga crazy, you
Speaker 2: know Dave Dave always looking around like the day he
Speaker 2: was like like.
Speaker 1: And low key.
Speaker 2: Then I just begin to put everything together from music
Speaker 2: you will put you were putting out. It was like, Bro,
Speaker 2: those the days I will never ever, ever, ever, ever
Speaker 2: fucking forget. That was before I even decided to be
Speaker 2: an artist. I was still just trying to be an
Speaker 2: amazing songwriter and learn more and he probably try to
Speaker 2: be the next herold Lily if I could, you know,
Speaker 2: that was one of my favorite songwriters in writing because
Speaker 2: he knew how to take that thing. And and then
Speaker 2: later understanding about the underdogs, and now I was like, God,
Speaker 2: damn y'all motherfuckers and some dogs fuck.
Speaker 4: Under Did you get a publishing deal?
Speaker 2: No? I did not do it.
Speaker 1: You didn't.
Speaker 4: You didn't do one?
Speaker 2: Nope, I didn't. I didn't. Harold also told me it
Speaker 2: wasn't best for me to do a publishing deal, and
Speaker 2: he also explained to me the difference between a publishing
Speaker 2: deal and at men deal and so forth, and then
Speaker 2: explain what I should do when I when it was
Speaker 2: best for the time. One of the most solid people
Speaker 2: that I met in this music game, because he's not
Speaker 2: just the I know the same herold you know, and
Speaker 2: you know you know the same hero he knows. You know,
Speaker 2: people like that in the game one nigga Ralph with
Speaker 2: another nigga. You know, if very few people know the
Speaker 2: same person in that person.
Speaker 1: First the start of it, niggas be.
Speaker 2: Switching up and it's not too many people. That's the
Speaker 2: same person with everybody, And what everybody know was a
Speaker 2: good person. Everybody can know the same asshole, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But man like Harold was just he
Speaker 2: wasn't just informative, but he gave me something to do
Speaker 2: to keep me busy, to understand how it works, and
Speaker 2: just giving me advice. Ended up getting my own songs
Speaker 2: placed on Mario and some time after that, and but
Speaker 2: Mario was one of the first albums that I really
Speaker 2: wanted to be a part of at one point once
Speaker 2: I met him at Record Plant and we both found
Speaker 2: that like Nigga, that we loved the same style of
Speaker 2: R and B singing. It was like super R and B.
Speaker 2: But Harold got that soul and Warn't got that soul
Speaker 2: in on Mario. And then that's when you got to
Speaker 2: brave my hair. When you look at me, I know
Speaker 2: all that soulfulness into the R and B. It adds
Speaker 2: and helped him form what he has because the nigga, Honestly,
Speaker 2: him and Eric Doggins are two of the craziest motherfuckers
Speaker 2: I've ever sat and watched cut vocals like dog I'm
Speaker 2: about to go, I'm about to go Yeah. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I really wanted to work with Mario. Seeing somebody young
Speaker 2: like that, with vocal talent, with vocal understand and with
Speaker 2: musical understanding like that, and being around people that I've admired.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a part of that. I wanted
Speaker 2: to take part in his legacy in a sense because
Speaker 2: even back then I only wanted to work with magical things.
Speaker 2: I wanted to work on something that I knew I
Speaker 2: could stand out in because of what I've listened to
Speaker 2: and what niggas played before. I could control that radio.
Speaker 2: You know, you better not touch my radio. What they
Speaker 2: planning after listen to that? But that babyface, that right,
Speaker 2: and that simplicity something else and that anytime he played
Speaker 2: that and we was going out to eat to the
Speaker 2: steakhouse or the buffet or something, and I'm in the
Speaker 2: back of that stanking lanker and he playing that babyface,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this nigga really good and I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 2: We'll say about being young with those antennas being.
Speaker 1: Uplay, let it play, don't touch nothing?
Speaker 2: Can you stand the ring?
Speaker 1: Same thing, exact same thing.
Speaker 2: That Minnesota period is so special musically. People do not
Speaker 2: give Minnesota the credit. It's just the Jimmy Jam Terry
Speaker 2: Lewis the Purple one and I'm men condition next I
Speaker 2: got Come on, I'm sure people, I don't even know.
Speaker 4: The coldest songwriters I believe.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yes, sir. I didn't know they was from Minnesota.
Speaker 2: From Minnesota just sucked me up with that next that's
Speaker 2: what's up. Yeah, man, the Midwest. It's very very special musically, man.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I had the job with Mary and Mary
Speaker 2: and I'm shopping the songs around, got the got to
Speaker 2: end up end up in the studio with Warren, Lily
Speaker 2: and Mario and.
Speaker 1: I was addicted. Bro. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2: I never felt I highlight that over in my life
Speaker 2: musically from Chicago being here like that, knowing you just
Speaker 2: pull up to the studio, seeing how it happens. Being apart,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, nigga, I ain't going back for nothing.
Speaker 2: I'm here.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think that's the feeling that we all get, and
Speaker 2: that we all got honestly when we all came here.
Speaker 2: Is it's very real mm hmm, right, Like it's it's tangible.
Speaker 2: You get here and you're like, oh, that song that
Speaker 2: this random nigga just played me a month ago is
Speaker 2: now the biggest song in the world.
Speaker 4: Crazy, and that don't happen nowhere else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not at that time.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? For me? You know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't go to New York, I didn't go to Atlanta.
Speaker 7: I came to La Obviously it was closer for me
Speaker 7: coming from San Francisco.
Speaker 4: It was the closest place for me to go.
Speaker 7: But in San Francisco, I didn't know nobody that literally
Speaker 7: placed records, you know what I mean, Like you knew
Speaker 7: niggas that have local records, that you got a record
Speaker 7: that that blew up out the city that became you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Like we had rapid fote, you
Speaker 7: got the Players Club and go Platum and we're like.
Speaker 4: Oh, this is amazing. But you didn't. I didn't know
Speaker 4: niggas that were literally.
Speaker 7: Really placing records somebody in the system. In the system,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, the Who's Looking List, you
Speaker 7: remember them. Shit, they used to sit out like I
Speaker 7: don't even know it exists.
Speaker 1: Ever, the first day to act sing.
Speaker 7: When I was like, wait, so okay, so they want
Speaker 7: this type of song and they want this is it?
Speaker 4: And then you realize, like all that shit, they don't
Speaker 4: want none of that ship that's on those papers.
Speaker 1: Later, yes, yes, yes, like it together.
Speaker 2: It was so exciting to be that close to it
Speaker 2: to to touch it to Philly, it was. It was
Speaker 2: super exciting, man, and that kind of started the the hunger.
Speaker 2: What kind of started the ship for the artistry.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: I don't know what album.
Speaker 2: I think it was the damn the album after Confessions.
Speaker 2: It was a Hero I Stand or something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and d No, Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So at this time, my mom, I'm in Philly working
Speaker 2: with Drave for Dow a lot, like to the point
Speaker 2: where I'm out there so long, I'm sending my rent back.
Speaker 1: I'm not even coming back, like, I'm just out there.
Speaker 2: And I had songs that I brought out there to Philly,
Speaker 2: and I worked on songs in Philly with dan Va
Speaker 2: Dow for Usher and a few other artists they were
Speaker 2: working for. We came up with some very unique records
Speaker 2: that we thought were dope. When you're a young writer
Speaker 2: and you don't know exactly what a nigga wont if
Speaker 2: it's if it's unique enough, you're willing to play it
Speaker 2: to see if a nigga can over like sell it,
Speaker 2: because it's the unique with the nigga.
Speaker 1: That could sell it. Oh shit, you know.
Speaker 2: So were trying to wait for that other half of
Speaker 2: the math to add up, but it wasn't adding up.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, what y'all think about me just
Speaker 2: keeping these motherfucking records? I was like, for you, I
Speaker 2: was like, yep, Like Nigga is all, what the fuck
Speaker 2: us we're gonna do with them? I was like, yup,
Speaker 2: Like just give me a monk with them, Like, let
Speaker 2: me chucklet's put these motherfuckers out, just see what happened.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, those the records that kind
Speaker 2: of started the the whiff after Pineapple, because Pineapple was
Speaker 2: like Pineapple was the time that I was singing in
Speaker 2: our background for Usher. I left Mary Mary and went
Speaker 2: to Usher.
Speaker 4: And you were Usher during confessions.
Speaker 1: Yeah shit, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, pantees the on you. I've never seen nothing
Speaker 2: like that in my life. I went to the mall
Speaker 2: with them one day just to see what then happens.
Speaker 2: I wanted.
Speaker 1: I said, how the fuck do you go to the mall.
Speaker 4: To you to the ma shut it down?
Speaker 2: Yesther reason Nigga we took a break from sound check
Speaker 2: was what he was doing.
Speaker 1: He's uh.
Speaker 2: Live in Puerto Rico, live on showtime in Puerto Rico,
Speaker 2: and my nigga, Ryan, love it, Ryan, love it man.
Speaker 2: He came back like he did a nigga that Wu
Speaker 2: was school me how us would be like certain ships,
Speaker 2: saying or he would like give me the details so
Speaker 2: I can because we clicked verywhere, like, nigga, I know
Speaker 2: you would kill this. I just want to tell you
Speaker 2: what he liked so you could just already like I'm
Speaker 2: like all right, ben, So Ryan put me on the game.
Speaker 2: Me and Ryan became really close, so he so he
Speaker 2: went over there to see what they was talking about. He
Speaker 2: was like, go to the mall when we take a break.
Speaker 2: I said, nigga, I'm going to We're going to. You
Speaker 2: ain't tell me for me to get this information and
Speaker 2: drink a gateorway till y'all get back.
Speaker 1: You gotta be fucked up.
Speaker 2: So nigga, I went to the mars like you going too.
Speaker 2: So it's maybe but myself, Elijah USh, Terrence, Ryan is
Speaker 2: probably about seven eight of us. We're getting to tomorrow.
Speaker 2: First maybe four people see us, then thirty. It was
Speaker 2: from four to thirty, and then thirty went from thirty.
Speaker 1: To three hundred.
Speaker 2: To the point where to the point where we came in,
Speaker 2: we were just close. Now I'm on the other side
Speaker 2: of that wall.
Speaker 1: And people between us. So me and Ryan like.
Speaker 2: Nigga, we gotta get back because if they move and
Speaker 2: go through a door, then you let Nigga. So we
Speaker 2: get back and now we we holding on like Elijah
Speaker 2: Jacket like Nigga. They walker were walking.
Speaker 1: We all like Nigga, we together.
Speaker 2: I remember Nigga one time. This girl they was like
Speaker 2: she kept like trying to put the phone in his
Speaker 2: fucking like touch his nose with the phone. Life just
Speaker 2: like yo, chill out. Somehow she get back phone. Feel
Speaker 2: imagine a seat of five hundred people in the phone
Speaker 2: is kicked through the gaps of everybody's and then you
Speaker 2: ain't gonna see them pictures. So with just to see
Speaker 2: that that level of pandemonium, bro, and really like of
Speaker 2: somebody in one of the pinnacles of their musical career,
Speaker 2: blew my fucking mind.
Speaker 1: I got back to the sound check, like, how the.
Speaker 2: Fuck this nigga be doing that ship?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Because Nigga everywhere he go, Bro, it was. It was
Speaker 2: such an amazing experience. Man. I learned so much from Mary,
Speaker 2: Mary to from the details of singing need that track
Speaker 2: you all the details they sing and them girls got
Speaker 2: some ship inchapellas they talk about. Man, listen them girls.
Speaker 2: If you if you get Mary Mary acapellas, it'll bless
Speaker 2: your soul just as much as the album with all
Speaker 2: the music and not only learning what they were singing,
Speaker 2: but how to sing it, how to project yourself where
Speaker 2: it comes out right, even with background vocals and the
Speaker 2: band and their vocals, that I learned so much of
Speaker 2: how to do it right in a real productive and
Speaker 2: production type of way versus at church just singing. Churches
Speaker 2: have just now begin to elevate it. And it feels
Speaker 2: like in yes, yes, yes, yes, because I came from
Speaker 2: the same type of church like you as an old
Speaker 2: man in there or an old lady and there, singing
Speaker 2: before any musician theyver you donna get there. It's called devotion.
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, so.
Speaker 1: It's called devotion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, usher, I learned how to the inflections that
Speaker 2: I learned with Mary Mary, how to take that times ten,
Speaker 2: because fuck what your personal what your favorite part is?
Speaker 2: Sing this song?
Speaker 1: Sing damn song? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Fuck what your favorite part is? Sing this whole motherfucker
Speaker 2: like it's your favorite part. And that's what like elevated,
Speaker 2: and then me and Usher got cool to them, like, Nigga,
Speaker 2: what you did, Nigga that last take? Nigga, that shit
Speaker 2: called like you should do that shit. I'm not even
Speaker 2: like I'm talking to the boss, but I'm like, Nigga,
Speaker 2: that shit was yet because Nigga, I feel like I've
Speaker 2: connected with that is.
Speaker 3: Your your your your gift qualifies you in the space
Speaker 3: within the conversation.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not like suggestion. You
Speaker 1: told me.
Speaker 2: I feel the same way. But you know, sometimes when
Speaker 2: it's working, you ain't been here long, you ain't you know,
Speaker 2: but I didn't care.
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable. But but but but killers no killers.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We know we we know
Speaker 1: when it's a.
Speaker 3: Nigga that is this that singing backgrounds or you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, or Nigga's that's not really in this space.
Speaker 1: He ain't selling records, he's not doing this. But you
Speaker 1: can look at him like this. That's they look that
Speaker 1: Nigga would do.
Speaker 2: That's the fun that it would do. I swear, god, bro,
Speaker 2: that's to look like, you know, between songs, Babby playing
Speaker 2: niggas just be singing around and it turned to something.
Speaker 2: Now he's singing the song we singing, just playing around
Speaker 2: that look black. Yeah, because you're you're in his ears, nigga, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're in his ears. No, man, those relationships and it's
Speaker 2: so what I'm asking about for you is like Mary
Speaker 2: Mary now usher And of course you've you've, you've you've
Speaker 2: banded and bonded with you know, other background singers and
Speaker 2: other musicians. Are you now when you say you go
Speaker 2: to drama Dad say hey man, maybe maybe maybe me?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Are you starting to feel like, as you've been around
Speaker 3: this level, that you're like.
Speaker 1: I can do it. Oh I belong here?
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, uh huh that thing work?
Speaker 4: Huh. Yes, make sure you play like you're playing for
Speaker 4: Dave Pallas the back of the day. Man, don't let
Speaker 4: him down.
Speaker 2: Now, Tant tant Tank Definitely. I forgot which dog he
Speaker 2: had on the album. He had a dog on the album.
Speaker 2: Him and I used to listen to watching Mill Soup
Speaker 2: Joint those on that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's some jam water BJ the Chicago kid. You
Speaker 1: come from a place.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well we know it's in your blood, so also
Speaker 5: in your clothes and such waiting early.
Speaker 1: As you've been able to create great music.
Speaker 3: There's great music that has also inspired you to be
Speaker 3: who you are.
Speaker 1: We want know your favorites. Okay, the people do too.
Speaker 1: We call that here. You're well. We called m hm.
Speaker 1: Top five your top five? Okay, top your top five
Speaker 1: ould be missing ory okay, yes, we got to do
Speaker 1: did not you go there wrong?
Speaker 6: Is you?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: Ye?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir?
Speaker 6: You yeah?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: B j the Chicago kids, Yes, sir? What's that? Your
Speaker 1: top five.
Speaker 2: R and B singers, Top five R and B singers
Speaker 2: and no order, no particular order.
Speaker 1: Joe, Yeah, favorite, Yeah, one of my favorites. Kick this
Speaker 1: ship off. Talk to talk about.
Speaker 4: Joe.
Speaker 1: Joe. They don't talk about Joe enough. Joe. This is
Speaker 1: hard because I only got four left. God damn this.
Speaker 1: It's tough.
Speaker 2: Joe. The music exists. R Kelly, The music exists. I
Speaker 2: don't I don't condone.
Speaker 1: The music exists. Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say usher, m and I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: usher because it's a time where I seen him hit
Speaker 2: the gas again.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Nigga.
Speaker 2: His verse on that Chris Brown record. I said, Nigga,
Speaker 2: I hear your precisest I see what you're trying it's quick. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's quick. A surgeon for sure, for sure and precise
Speaker 2: to be quick. Yeah, you could be quick and slide.
Speaker 2: That's not that it was like, no, give me, I
Speaker 2: could tell yeah Stokely, Yeah, Stokely's real range, his real authentic.
Speaker 3: Range is messing around, and that Stevie Wonder range.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, And I don't feel like I got
Speaker 2: to say Stevie. That's what we all know that certain
Speaker 2: people above this they see on top of the Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't got to say that, Donny, we already know. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: so I said it kills Joe Usher, Stokely.
Speaker 1: Stokely, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: Only one more?
Speaker 1: Only one? Will there be one? Bro?
Speaker 2: It's too many. This nigga next to me is nigga
Speaker 2: a fucking problem? Did y'all just hear the intro of my.
Speaker 1: It's a problem.
Speaker 2: Intro intro problem, That's what I'm saying. Only one, God
Speaker 2: damn bro. All right, I'm gonna do this right. For
Speaker 2: my fifth I'm gonna say, Reggie Lewis, here's Chicago legend.
Speaker 1: He like.
Speaker 2: You like when the nigga's in the NBA. Still remember
Speaker 2: like the nigga that gave him problems. He know they
Speaker 2: was real fucking problems. Some of the problems that Nigga
Speaker 2: gave him, niggas these days can't even give them that day.
Speaker 2: Reggie is that type of nigga. I'll be damned if
Speaker 2: I say everybody that people know Chicago has so many
Speaker 2: incredible ier freaking monster she is like when I first
Speaker 2: heard of I was like Nigga Caes.
Speaker 4: She never leave.
Speaker 2: Nigga sung the background for a one time during one
Speaker 2: period of my life, my brother Aaron, myself and iSER
Speaker 2: we three saying background for a five wasn't the biggest
Speaker 2: paying gig I've ever had, but one of the funnest
Speaker 2: because I was singing with three two other sons. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Anthony Hamilton was one of those gigs where I got
Speaker 2: to sing with some sangers singers. Anthony Hamilton was that
Speaker 2: gig where you could actually do the soulful like Jodasyes,
Speaker 2: but through a background and your mic is on on.
Speaker 2: That was that gig for me, believe it or not,
Speaker 2: I tell you a gym that very two people know.
Speaker 2: I got signed to Motown and that night I got
Speaker 2: a call the same background for D'Angelo during that for
Speaker 2: that tour he did. I was like sick because D'Angel
Speaker 2: was somebody I always wanted to work with, and to
Speaker 2: know I got that call when God called me up.
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, do I got two minutes to think
Speaker 2: about this in the morning. Let me just ponder on
Speaker 2: this for a minute, because I can't say no yet.
Speaker 2: It's not easy to say no when it's somebody you
Speaker 2: really admire, and you get to learn from inside the clock,
Speaker 2: like fuck being out Now it's a door and you
Speaker 2: can walk in this clock and look up and see
Speaker 2: all the fucking mechanisms, and like, that's one of the
Speaker 2: artists I would have loved to see because I'm such
Speaker 2: a Prince fan. He's a stuteent love. I'm a student
Speaker 2: of both of them. I love to see how people
Speaker 2: think beyond what they choose to give us.
Speaker 1: Basically because there is a difference.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, there there are levels to being behind that
Speaker 3: veil and be like you're not gonna use that, Yes,
Speaker 3: you're gonna deviate from Yeah, it'd be so many things.
Speaker 3: Was like, I'm not gonna understand that. Let me just
Speaker 3: let me just stay right in here.
Speaker 2: Got a song, right, I still got another five?
Speaker 1: Your top five.
Speaker 2: Still got another five like you, I ain't here, none
Speaker 2: of the women.
Speaker 1: Yet your top five R and B songs? Oh man,
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Can the ring easy? That's easy?
Speaker 2: As we lay it because we're gonna be.
Speaker 4: Here thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: Pinpoint them as we lay?
Speaker 2: Can you stand the Ring Landslides by the Dissey Chicks?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I think.
Speaker 2: Don't your music have some of the illness harmony of
Speaker 2: the best storytelling but placed perfectly white.
Speaker 1: White Nigga R and B.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but same emotions, same I mean, yes, it's just say.
Speaker 1: They have a way with still tones, yes.
Speaker 2: No verbrato sometimes and when they find you like yo.
Speaker 3: What they have a way with still tones and moving
Speaker 3: just the middle note too to clash with the lower.
Speaker 1: Note or drop on you to.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's there, it's it's for them, it's soul for
Speaker 3: for for the outside looking in. There's a technicality to
Speaker 3: that that if you don't know the technical part of
Speaker 3: what they're doing, you're not going to be able to
Speaker 3: pull it off.
Speaker 2: And you won't even probably really know that they You.
Speaker 3: Won't understand what some of the craziest ship it's a
Speaker 3: different language, Yes, it's a different I studied that ship
Speaker 3: and I'm like this, that's not easy.
Speaker 1: Exit.
Speaker 2: Exit is one of the coldest.
Speaker 1: Fourth.
Speaker 4: That was four, that's for That was because you had
Speaker 4: Disney Chicks as a landslide.
Speaker 2: I take it. It wasn't R and B, but I
Speaker 2: just had to gotta take it. So fifth, last, but
Speaker 2: not least, D'Angelo, how does it feel?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: It's too many. I know I left some off, y'all.
Speaker 2: I know put them in the comments.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, that's one of the greatest songs of
Speaker 3: all times.
Speaker 1: I do too. I think so too.
Speaker 3: Berother everything in that sect it's perfect, every perfect song.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: I heard Rafael tell me the story of it, and
Speaker 2: there's so many imperfections in what we consider right.
Speaker 1: But that's that's perfection. Yes, yes, it is coming together.
Speaker 4: James Brown said, you feel this. I feel.
Speaker 2: Hum hm.
Speaker 1: M hm hm hmm. Yeah. Let me go on. I said,
Speaker 1: no next, I'm saying no names. I'm saying no names.
Speaker 1: Come on, I saying no name. He was we used
Speaker 1: to leave what you need, don't say. She ain't saying
Speaker 1: no names.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're here now.
Speaker 7: Now, very that's your part of the show.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, I know you listen. I know you
Speaker 4: don't watch the show. You know the segment.
Speaker 1: You know it, you know it.
Speaker 2: I'm here, what's up? What's up?
Speaker 1: You know? All right?
Speaker 7: Well we we play this game, all right, card I
Speaker 7: ain't saying no names. Will you tell us a story?
Speaker 7: Funnyer fucked up a funny and fucked up? The only
Speaker 7: rule to the game. Okay, you can't say no names.
Speaker 7: You can't say no names. I didn't think of a
Speaker 7: good one.
Speaker 2: I was on tour some years ago, and uh, I
Speaker 2: was talking to a young lady over time, never met
Speaker 2: her face to face two a time, close by, pop up?
Speaker 2: Say cool, no problem? Yeah, two tickets?
Speaker 4: Here you go?
Speaker 2: You only use one?
Speaker 6: Cool?
Speaker 2: No problem? Even better? Ain't nobody with you? Cool?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Get off stage? Incredible show. I don't really have a
Speaker 2: lot of people backstage unless it's like because you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: because when I get offstage, my brain is like the
Speaker 2: TV with no cable, just like, sh let me come back,
Speaker 2: get some channels back in this bitch.
Speaker 1: You need me laying It's like, Yo, did you do
Speaker 1: you enjoy the show?
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, I enjoyed the show. Can I see
Speaker 2: before I need I drive out? Yeah? Send the address?
Speaker 2: Maybe get the address we get there, I go on
Speaker 2: my bag. I don't take my whole bag out, have
Speaker 2: like a little duffel of something I put when I'm
Speaker 2: about to put on to the trees, I ain't taking
Speaker 2: that bag.
Speaker 1: Some stairs to do one thing. I'm on tour. Man,
Speaker 1: you gotta be fucked up.
Speaker 2: Who gonna being these bitches down?
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: When I get out the when I get out the
Speaker 2: back of the vehicle with my bag, I see a
Speaker 2: car in the driveway. I see a female dude. I
Speaker 2: watched everything. I keep walking. As I get in the
Speaker 2: front lobby, I hear a voice get out of a car.
Speaker 1: I turn around.
Speaker 2: The face looked for me, and man, mind, we never
Speaker 2: met in person. So but I'm not I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 2: let you. I think it could be somebody look just
Speaker 2: like you. But I'm that player. I don't got it.
Speaker 2: So she's like, hey Bees, and I'm like when she
Speaker 2: got across that, hey Bee said, I remember what the
Speaker 2: nigga looked like in the car. So I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, it's like you cool, your your people wait
Speaker 2: for you or something. She's like no, I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, cool, remember having my shower shit with me?
Speaker 2: So we got upstairs, and she was like, no. I
Speaker 2: offered her a drink. Somebody had brought me some Hennessy
Speaker 2: Pure white brand new bottle. Hey man, I had poured
Speaker 2: a little bit, poor me, a little bit. I said, cheers.
Speaker 2: When I cheers that glass. I drank it.
Speaker 1: But I drink on my eyes open. I drink it.
Speaker 1: I looked at her.
Speaker 2: She threw what was in the cup out like it's
Speaker 2: a carpeted room, bro, she just do this first first,
Speaker 2: wod nigga think like you just saw me open, take
Speaker 2: the thing off. You didn't want it, just don't drink it.
Speaker 2: But this this n C pre white fuck you wasting
Speaker 2: for But anyway, that was just weird for so many reasons,
Speaker 2: more than what I just said. I don't got time
Speaker 2: to a lie mind you. I just got out of stage.
Speaker 2: I'm sweating and everything. I'm not about to go in
Speaker 2: the shower because that was weird. So what I did
Speaker 2: was I stood up start getting shot in the bag,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to waste time to really like assess
Speaker 2: with the fuck nigga. Some ship is too red. Something
Speaker 2: is burging, ye, some shit is burging, yeah, like ain't
Speaker 2: no red? So long and behold she said something that
Speaker 2: was like so wild. I was like, you wanna know what.
Speaker 1: I'm about to leave.
Speaker 2: I'm about to go you you. So I got up,
Speaker 2: got my shit, I walked out. She didn't move, she
Speaker 2: didn't do nothing. So what I did was like a
Speaker 2: g I went to the front desk. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'd like to close out of uh eight seventeen and
Speaker 2: that's anything in there. Police clear the room because nobody's
Speaker 2: The guy at the front there says I'm the only
Speaker 2: one working tonight. I was like, I will and I
Speaker 2: looked at him like you need to go clear the room.
Speaker 2: And I went back to the same vehicle I got
Speaker 2: out of. My manager comes downstairs and he's like my
Speaker 2: role manager. He's like, so, what do you know what's
Speaker 2: going on? I was like, Nigga. I don't know what
Speaker 2: she owned, nigga, but I just know she's she she
Speaker 2: not what her thumbs was given. You know what I'm
Speaker 2: saying and type of messaging. And the guy says from
Speaker 2: the front desk, I'm about to go up there because
Speaker 2: while I'm talking to the road manager, he's on the
Speaker 2: phone calling up to the room. So she answers the
Speaker 2: phone why I don't be dealing with this type of shit.
Speaker 2: That's why immediately had a no, a zero tolerance for it.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm about to go up there. I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, so now me and the road managers walking
Speaker 2: back to the vehicle. By the time we get to
Speaker 2: the vehicle, the police is pulling up to the hotel
Speaker 2: for her. I'm not knowing. I'm just like watching everything
Speaker 2: after vehicle after the nigga.
Speaker 1: So the police pull up.
Speaker 2: And when the police pull up, I was like, so,
Speaker 2: you know, when you're on tour, you got that one
Speaker 2: text of everybody. Yeah, I said, y'all, we out of
Speaker 2: here in the next five minutes. Get your shit and
Speaker 2: we I don't got time to I don't blend them
Speaker 2: two worlds and two niggas like me being an artist.
Speaker 2: I'm not your father, but I would definitely have to
Speaker 2: explain some shit to your family if anything ever happened
Speaker 2: with in any kind of form. And I'm just not
Speaker 2: of that, you know. I'm so niggas came downstairs. I said,
Speaker 2: splash into y'all when we leave. So these niggas coming down,
Speaker 2: they was like, who was that girl they had hog
Speaker 2: tied bringing off? So they had to cuff her legs
Speaker 2: in her hands. What because she didn't want to leave
Speaker 2: the hotel?
Speaker 1: Wow? Bro wow wow Wow.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter if you plan the smash, don't
Speaker 2: plan the smash whatever. Know who you're talking to, because
Speaker 2: when you come from a different era of meeting people,
Speaker 2: you meet them the best comfortable, understandable way.
Speaker 1: For your protection. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Lo and behold everybody come downstairs.
Speaker 1: They're like, who is that girl? They had hog tie bringing?
Speaker 2: So now the police got her literally feet and hands
Speaker 2: together like she about to go on the grill on
Speaker 2: America's best barbecuer.
Speaker 1: And we get all getting a vehicle.
Speaker 2: Nigga, I ain't even take my shot to get in
Speaker 2: the next sit like got I don't give nigga what
Speaker 2: my safety? All that is way more putting any goofy shit.
Speaker 2: I didn't seen enough goofy.
Speaker 1: Shit in my life.
Speaker 2: I'd have heard enough goofy stores for my friends for
Speaker 2: me to even play any role in anybody else's goofy movie.
Speaker 2: What what hell?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: So as soon as we get right before the freeway,
Speaker 2: the car in front of us have an accident where
Speaker 2: they hit the joint boom and hit the fucking roof.
Speaker 2: They so now we like, nigga, we leaving the police.
Speaker 2: We see an accident in front of us. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is one of those days where you just got
Speaker 2: to get the fuck out this city, this whole this
Speaker 2: whole city, is this whole stuff. Yeah, we're out of here.
Speaker 2: You know what bad vibes feel like. And that was
Speaker 2: enough for me to get out the hotel. But we
Speaker 2: low key tried to get out and help the guy
Speaker 2: that that was laying on his roof. This roof was
Speaker 2: ship the cars upside down. Nigga like, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 2: He was like, yep, you're good.
Speaker 1: We out there. Good luck, that's all makes you good.
Speaker 2: Brobody would sleep. We see the accident.
Speaker 1: Now the nigga died there. Now then he was like.
Speaker 2: We good and he was. I was like, nobody opened
Speaker 2: the door, touch the cord of you see that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'alla be careful out here, man, go more than careful,
Speaker 1: more than careful. And that was.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, man, I just I seen too much.
Speaker 4: Nigga.
Speaker 2: You didn't even have to drink the liquor. Why did
Speaker 2: you throw it in this nice hotel with this cut?
Speaker 1: You're weird though, poor execution.
Speaker 2: Yeah, White Flag was really ten because like whatever question
Speaker 2: you can ask if.
Speaker 7: You trying to set me up, cause she go do
Speaker 7: your show and go.
Speaker 1: And go to slip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even being that many years ago, bro, you you
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta understand, like I've seen, I've seen background
Speaker 2: many years before even being an artist. So and a
Speaker 2: lot of friends I grew up with I still have.
Speaker 2: This didn't excite me or bringing any extracurricular activity to
Speaker 2: me that I never had before, even before a single
Speaker 2: back background with ushers like nigga, I have friends, I
Speaker 2: had a prime date. She was bad. It was I
Speaker 2: have Yeah, I was I had enough person. I need
Speaker 2: myself to, you know, have a good life and and
Speaker 2: not really have to. But from the conversation, the conversation
Speaker 2: Nigga the coolest fun like.
Speaker 1: But the the Lord to sleep.
Speaker 3: Is a thing. It is a real thing. Like these
Speaker 3: these these this especially with this new internet.
Speaker 2: The Internet. Oh just keep being venting himself. Man, what
Speaker 2: same old soul just to new.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what Floyd Mayweather say, protect yourself
Speaker 3: at all times.
Speaker 2: And he ain't say that he gotta do it, but
Speaker 2: he probably said the niggas been saying that before him,
Speaker 2: but everywhere every where.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, nigga head butted him in
Speaker 3: the face and then wanted to hug.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get these.
Speaker 2: I was so happy he did that, Bro, I was
Speaker 2: so happy he did that because I'm.
Speaker 1: Get these point protection. At some point, I don't want
Speaker 1: to hug you.
Speaker 3: I don't want Yeah, you don't get to you don't
Speaker 3: get to disrespect me, offend me, and not get some
Speaker 3: of that back.
Speaker 2: That's how I look at the world. And that's what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna teach my son. What yeah, and too, don't
Speaker 2: you ain't you ain't always You ain't always got to
Speaker 2: give it out to get it back. Some time you
Speaker 2: could just be that type of day. But nigga, keep
Speaker 2: your head on the swivel. You would be able to
Speaker 2: still be the You could keep the controller in that
Speaker 2: situation at all times.
Speaker 1: You keep your head on.
Speaker 3: You know, the world is just such a crazy place,
Speaker 3: and the world is the world is looking. People are
Speaker 3: always looking for an advantage and and and I don't
Speaker 3: I don't mean to tell my son like this, like
Speaker 3: my wife gets on me, like I don't tell him that.
Speaker 3: But in this new world, I have to tell him that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you smell it, yeah, get off. You can apologize
Speaker 3: after I thought I thought y'all was on something. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: I felt like felt like I was I.
Speaker 1: Was gonna get the bad end of that. Yeah, so sorry,
Speaker 1: but I had to go first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because sometimes you niggas don't even realize they could
Speaker 2: have done it until the ship that already happened.
Speaker 3: We used to fight back in the day. We used
Speaker 3: to throw some punches and then somebody would win, somebody
Speaker 3: would lose or be a tie, and then that was
Speaker 3: the end of it. Go home and come back the
Speaker 3: next day. Pa, you actually cool, dog, I really I
Speaker 3: rock with you. You know what I'm saying, Go for
Speaker 3: a fight to be a best friend.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: It's so unpredictable because crashing out is a sports is sports.
Speaker 3: It's part of the conversation.
Speaker 1: It really is. It's famous, it's part of it's it's famous.
Speaker 3: So you know you you're not gonna crash first on minds.
Speaker 2: And too, Bro, you only got one life, man, it
Speaker 2: ain't even about being you.
Speaker 1: You got to be smarter, bro. Smart.
Speaker 2: Being smart it's coding and being stronger.
Speaker 3: At all times made you better believe it assess. Yeah, smartest,
Speaker 3: this feels like a track, like a track moment. Yeah
Speaker 3: funk that I would be a lot. I'm making it
Speaker 3: home one way or anohing.
Speaker 2: To man, Nigga has been through too much, too much.
Speaker 2: I don't seen too many movies, documentaries, nigga stories in
Speaker 2: front of my face. I'm good.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, brother, brother b Chicago kid. I'd like
Speaker 3: to say your whole name. I like to you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I like for your flowers to be
Speaker 3: addressed to you. Appreciate, Thank you, brother, thank thank you
Speaker 3: for your time, thank you for your gift. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, your continued contribution to this, to this
Speaker 3: you universe, which is also inspiring to us. You see
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And we're home for you. You know, I
Speaker 3: just want to make sure we express that to you.
Speaker 3: We're a home for you. This ain't just about you
Speaker 3: being a guest or you know, any any anything superficial
Speaker 3: or anything industry. My brother, you are brother, this is
Speaker 3: home for you. You want to come up here and
Speaker 3: just put your feet up on the table and just
Speaker 3: talk shop and and be do you know I say
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And be a resident and think. Man, Carl Blanche,
Speaker 3: my brother, you know that. I just want to make
Speaker 3: sure I guess you take that off. You might not
Speaker 3: get that back.
Speaker 2: Keep keep it.
Speaker 1: That you want to take.
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