WEBVTT - BJ The Chicago Kid

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<v Speaker 1>R and money.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 1>We are the.

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<v Speaker 3>Authority, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentine and

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<v Speaker 3>this is the Army Money Podcast, The authority.

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<v Speaker 1>On all things are in by.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my my my.

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<v Speaker 4>My, yes, real going on listen here.

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<v Speaker 3>We we we we have a special place here where

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<v Speaker 3>where special people we we. We are blessed when they

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<v Speaker 3>stop by amen, when they are in the midst in

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<v Speaker 3>the presence being who and what they are. This man

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<v Speaker 3>is a fine man man the cloth Uh, a man

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<v Speaker 3>of deep soil, deep soil. Yeah, keep the name him

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<v Speaker 3>uh and and and and his gift uh speaks.

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<v Speaker 1>Volumes throughout the musical universe.

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<v Speaker 2>I speak on.

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<v Speaker 3>None other than as I bring guest preacher to the podium.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna use that when I go on my.

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<v Speaker 1>Next to you are you man? You are brother man.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you brother to be him man.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta shake out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We've been doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>A long long time, brothers for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Along with the brotherhood, you know, today I feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we get to we get to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about b J the Chicago kid.

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<v Speaker 1>We get we get to we get to talk shipped.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>you you you get to say you God, damn right, go.

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<v Speaker 2>Ahead and look who I mean it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you're damn right. Yes on who they say.

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<v Speaker 3>I am multi faceted, multi talented. More importantly man, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>just a good brother man, Thank you man, good brother man.

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<v Speaker 3>You know there's that's universal, that's not just language we talk.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's around the world. Very important to this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you are very important to this thing. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you man, Thank you saying same. That's why I showed up.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at the Raphaels down the street, said let

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<v Speaker 2>me go ahead and try about with in between these

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<v Speaker 2>episodes and Tom and Jerry Snookie get my sweat out

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<v Speaker 2>the first off and shout out to the cooogie.

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<v Speaker 1>You.

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<v Speaker 3>You are not getting away from here without giving me

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<v Speaker 3>the connect I got.

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<v Speaker 2>You say, let's the real, authentic o G not the

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want none of that new You want something

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<v Speaker 2>to put time in you. I want that real threading.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your lineage is crazy. If your family dynamics,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all it's all crazy. Like you know, we we

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<v Speaker 3>we could have you here for two days.

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<v Speaker 1>We can going through the.

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<v Speaker 3>Levels and the progressions. But let's at least let's at

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<v Speaker 3>least touch on the beginning of of what you come from, man,

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<v Speaker 3>and and and and where it all started for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Where was a must.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the youngest of three boys, both parents in the home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>born and raised in the same home that I left.

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<v Speaker 2>I was born here, moving to l A. Anything they touched,

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<v Speaker 2>I touched basketball, drums, bases in the house a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of times. With music in general, even my mom and dad.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad, he was a choir director in this earlier

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<v Speaker 2>Afro real Bell Bottom days, you know that that era.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was directing the choir with the Afro.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I still got pictures. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad was a choir director. My mom did the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing, and so they grew up in the same church.

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<v Speaker 2>Then she went to her mom's church for some time

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<v Speaker 2>and then came back to that church. So my mom

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<v Speaker 2>was was directing choirs pretty much the whole time as well,

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<v Speaker 2>learning how to harmonize, doing what harmony was, Knowing how

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<v Speaker 2>strong or how soft you had to sing that note,

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. Like my mom taught me that in

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<v Speaker 2>the car. Like I remember the first time I ever

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<v Speaker 2>had to sing at church. She made me sing with

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<v Speaker 2>my brother and she was gonna have to leave, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty much three of us. We had to

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<v Speaker 2>sing that, and she gave my part in the car

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<v Speaker 2>before we went into church. That was my first sign

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<v Speaker 2>of pressure and getting through it. Of course, I was

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<v Speaker 2>about six or seven years old, bro and I and

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<v Speaker 2>I felt that pressure of have a responsibility of a part.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's singing this with you, so if you fall off,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna make the ship rocky.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I understood what the musical responsibility was for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time, outside of a choir or a.

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<v Speaker 1>Group or something. It was just like us this way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like all right, and we went in and we

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<v Speaker 2>did it. It was amazing, man. But just little things like

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<v Speaker 2>that takes me back. Even playing the drums for the

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<v Speaker 2>children's choirs. Just stuff like that, it takes me back. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, I had gigs. I had church gigs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually when I moved to l A, I left

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<v Speaker 2>the church to come to LA to pursue writing and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, artistry and so forth, music on a different

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<v Speaker 2>level outside of the drums. So I left forget to

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<v Speaker 2>come here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you were in this church space. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>you talked about six and seven, already harmonized and already

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<v Speaker 3>feeling the pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>My brothers they went on to play like for all

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<v Speaker 2>of the best choirs, the recordings and all like my

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<v Speaker 2>Scooter is Man recorded so many times with so many

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<v Speaker 2>groups and choirs throughout downloadable history. Aaron, Aaron, don't look

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<v Speaker 2>like it, but he the oldest. Everybody like who the oldest?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, God, like the oldest, but he's the oldest.

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<v Speaker 2>School is next, Scooter is next, and then I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>youngest BJ. So it just man, bro, like my brothers

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<v Speaker 2>were and still is everything to be. They still remain

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<v Speaker 2>big brothers, even in me being an artist, like when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to like away from all this, you know this, man,

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<v Speaker 2>they still be brothers. Just they they stayed my dogs

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<v Speaker 2>many just like that, and we stay locked. And was

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<v Speaker 2>best dressed in high school. So of course it's his

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<v Speaker 2>reason why I might want to be fresh every day?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that because they were able to you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you had a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, of course, you know if they left

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<v Speaker 2>too long on leave their closet open. Yeah, the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why girls on the body line we met some girls

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<v Speaker 2>on the body line.

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<v Speaker 4>Bob's close the ship I wantuposed to iron that it

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<v Speaker 4>got a hole in it there. That's not.

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<v Speaker 2>One day Scooter walked in and not I got in

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<v Speaker 2>maybe ten minutes before him and not knowing he was

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<v Speaker 2>coming straight and he caught me with it on mom

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<v Speaker 2>and daddy wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom, and daddy wasn't that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was like his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, mano, mano, man Yeah, that dope. But but

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<v Speaker 2>I got it off in school. I got that fit off.

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<v Speaker 2>Though I got that fit off, was it worth it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for the times you didn't have that fit. Nigga

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<v Speaker 2>snuck in on the Wednesday would feel like, are you

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<v Speaker 2>in shopping yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>Huh?

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<v Speaker 2>It ain't Monday, nigga. Niggas nigga, you know niggas go

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<v Speaker 2>shopping on the weekend. So here's a new fit on

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<v Speaker 2>the Wednesday night. Niggas just wait to figure something matter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know how it is, man. I think that whole

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<v Speaker 2>competitiveness from even like you know, racing to the car

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<v Speaker 2>with your cousins as kids. Man, that whole competitiveness it

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<v Speaker 2>helped us form, like, you know, that other side of

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<v Speaker 2>life that you don't learn in the house, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, Almost like with basketball, can struw you

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<v Speaker 2>if you get beyond just hooping at the park and

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<v Speaker 2>you really get to understand what to do to you

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<v Speaker 2>and understanding of what teammates he is, and what survival is,

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<v Speaker 2>how to yeah, how to hold it down? Yeah, every everybody? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah. All of that was conditioning for surviving in

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<v Speaker 2>this game. Is still surviving in it. Reinventing myself again

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<v Speaker 2>to go again and have a little bit more fun

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<v Speaker 2>like our heroes have done. All of that stuff has

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<v Speaker 2>been seasoning to have a barbecue restaurant that we're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make not but barbecue chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I know me in church, I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 3>this was. You know, I wasn't even in a space

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<v Speaker 3>where it was even allowed to consider m Like I

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<v Speaker 3>know my older cousins that would listen to to uh

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<v Speaker 3>the secular, that's the word, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that I thought they were like, they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to hell. Well I didn't think they were going to hell.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought they were I thought they were cooler.

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<v Speaker 2>There was an interest, a curiosity.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, because I used to. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>used to hang with all my street guys. But at

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<v Speaker 3>a certain point when my grandmother you screamed out the

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<v Speaker 3>rail back and you know what time it was. Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>on the block knew what time it was. Got to

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<v Speaker 3>go to church, That's what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Same with the sledge chiusehold and they laughed and joke.

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<v Speaker 2>We laughed in joke too, But Nigga, we ain't let

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<v Speaker 2>we ain't leave that that that that portray on cacking

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<v Speaker 2>is still nigga passing my cutback. I mean it. The

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<v Speaker 2>cross on the corner is very important for survival for

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<v Speaker 2>who we are, our understanding of ourselves. While we feel

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<v Speaker 2>those that had the same understanding of across the corner

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<v Speaker 2>before us, while we felt their music so stronger than

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<v Speaker 2>other artists, because Nigga, that's that's us. You listen to

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<v Speaker 2>your uncle yo, your musical pop show, your god daddy

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<v Speaker 2>in another way, but some type of ken to you

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<v Speaker 2>and it feels very familiar, and that that helps us

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<v Speaker 2>with who we are finding out, who we are growing

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<v Speaker 2>to be, what we want more of because they had

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<v Speaker 2>way less than we have but still gave us way

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<v Speaker 2>more than we give it.

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<v Speaker 1>They no pro tools, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, they had way less than what we had,

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<v Speaker 2>but gave more than what we give it for sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because imagine that bassic player fucking up all god damn time,

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<v Speaker 2>and we recording this song today. The bass player keep

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<v Speaker 2>sucking up. They're like, Hi, nigga, war more nigga. We

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<v Speaker 2>be going in the alley right easy, my big ma

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<v Speaker 2>beery steak tonight. I ain't being late.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta be fed up, Jack.

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<v Speaker 4>Stevie wonder whoof.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, I can't see you, but I'm gonna find you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna find you.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you, I hear you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody even told me. They was like, have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>like they said, they know, I love so New so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It said, have you paid attention to how the sound

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<v Speaker 2>changed from before Martin Luther King? And then when he died,

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<v Speaker 2>he said them basslines got needed them, drums can heave.

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<v Speaker 2>Your conversation got a little different. You can hear the frustration,

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<v Speaker 2>the anger, the pain, even if it's a happy song

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<v Speaker 2>that Sh'S slapping now, It's like it certain things changed

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<v Speaker 2>music without the recognition of it changing, because it just

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<v Speaker 2>do something to the people naturally, and if you feel

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<v Speaker 2>what we feel, it's gonna change you in what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. The person that sell phones man,

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<v Speaker 2>when they go back in the they hey, how you doing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know it's some type of feeling that

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<v Speaker 2>it's some emotion something. Yeah, And I feel like those

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<v Speaker 2>things have always kind of helped translate the music differently

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<v Speaker 2>and help us change our creative illness in some type

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<v Speaker 2>of way. But I like that's why I like talking

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<v Speaker 2>to old heads.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>They get you thinking with the other side of your

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<v Speaker 2>brain and it be the simplest stuff, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>just just go of our heads sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I just because I used to watch my

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<v Speaker 3>uncle Leroy. I used to on his date night. I

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<v Speaker 3>used to watch him on his date night. He would

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<v Speaker 3>have the Blue Magic play whatever he had playing. He

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<v Speaker 3>had slow music. Yeah, and you know his room was

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<v Speaker 3>over here, but he had to walk across the kitchen

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<v Speaker 3>to get to the bath, so he'd be going back

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<v Speaker 3>and forth, robe on and he s just yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just watching him, amazed by him. Got his magic shave on.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you gotta get clean.

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<v Speaker 2>You got close.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's it's a bottle with some green spraying

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<v Speaker 3>and that's all I knows, spraying, watching them put on

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<v Speaker 3>clothes to d and the music in the background. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not music I'm I'm used to listen, used to hearing,

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<v Speaker 3>like my grandmother know me play the James Cleveland and

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<v Speaker 3>all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Master This is different.

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<v Speaker 4>He's playing the secular music.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm like, I'm like what, I'm like, ugly,

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<v Speaker 1>where were you going? Got a date? I got a date?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what's that? What you listening? Though? You

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<v Speaker 1>know that's that's that's the music that you play when

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the date. I'm like, what you what you like?

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<v Speaker 1>What you got on? What is the clothes you wear

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<v Speaker 1>when you're going to date?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>The other side. And even then, it wasn't necessarily an

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<v Speaker 3>interest in R and B music. I was more interested

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<v Speaker 3>in just wanting to be like him. Yes, yes, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. I was came with that. I

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<v Speaker 3>was just a church.

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<v Speaker 2>Kid, you define everybody'd be like man like at a

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<v Speaker 2>certain age. Man, I was like, man, I really just

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<v Speaker 2>want to be like my post and my uncles with

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<v Speaker 2>a little more money, a few more options.

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<v Speaker 1>But who they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it that that was it? That was it? That

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<v Speaker 2>was it. I couldn't wait till my uncles came in town

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<v Speaker 2>and just so I could just talk to him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just talk man, what you been man? Or he asked

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<v Speaker 2>me what I've been doing? And I want to sound

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<v Speaker 2>cool saying what I've been doing, because this nigga's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, like nigga.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like even when I said the clone, it's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we all love a fry flight, a fly fragrance

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of represent us because of that experience growing

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<v Speaker 2>up having somebody that we admired. It was so ill

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<v Speaker 2>and we knew it was like, that's a key component

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<v Speaker 2>to being fly, and it's about what you got on.

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<v Speaker 2>How you smell when you walk past and be like

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like sometimes if a woman don't smell like nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather you just least smell your your hair products

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<v Speaker 2>or something something, but don't smell like nothing. You know something, Yeah, fly,

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<v Speaker 2>a flower smells like something? Yes, yes, yes, And all

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<v Speaker 2>those things are from I passed.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, what you didn't have a lot of when

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<v Speaker 2>you was little, When you get money, you get a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that, right, So I got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>sneakers in my house, all type of you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's true. But everything goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to when we were kids and what what we

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<v Speaker 2>were attracted to, what what what? What we thought was dope? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we always wanted some people weat some people fifty some

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<v Speaker 2>years old, man still got stuff on that list when

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<v Speaker 2>they was a kid.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Some guys still want that rock and sock and robot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I saw I saw the Vultron lines for sale.

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<v Speaker 3>On the other thing, I'm about to buy the.

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<v Speaker 1>Shield kill you. I bought a Megatron. I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>buy a new Megatron that transforms on its own. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta have it. I gotta have it.

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<v Speaker 3>You did because I didn't. I used to lie to that,

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<v Speaker 3>lie about having it. Yeah yeah, I got Nintendo. I

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<v Speaker 3>was playing punch Out all night. Yeah, killing it. So

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<v Speaker 3>you talk about your big brothers and and obviously they're

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<v Speaker 3>getting the gigs and all of these things before you,

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<v Speaker 3>like they're like their God. Yeah, when when do you

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<v Speaker 3>get your opportunity to be to be a guy to

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you're at least kind of on their level

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<v Speaker 3>in that space.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to be irritating first. I had to be

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<v Speaker 2>very irritating. First, I'm talking about school to be like Mama,

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<v Speaker 2>I used to call they the musicians. They have a

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<v Speaker 2>little shit over there. I'm like, I want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying it out loud in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I was on?

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta take BJ with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, I immediately run to the room to

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<v Speaker 2>see what I'm about to throw on.

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<v Speaker 4>How old are you at this point?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, nigga? That started. That started when I would have

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<v Speaker 2>to say I was at least thirteen. Yeah, And that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't stop till he got the fuck out the house

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<v Speaker 2>for real, because man, his life is so much more

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<v Speaker 2>cracking than mine.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I was a cool little brother man. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I used to shoot dice against my brother musician homies

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<v Speaker 2>and take their money.

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<v Speaker 1>School.

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<v Speaker 2>You were bet with me and like, Nick, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>make me some money, nigga. You know what I do,

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<v Speaker 2>nigga jump shots and dice. I shoot both of them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. That was my air force

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<v Speaker 2>warm money. My mom was like this all you get

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<v Speaker 2>for shoes, This is gonna get for clothes going back

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<v Speaker 2>to school. You gotta make it work.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm line. Let me take this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be right back about thirty minutes. Yeah, go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Brander Park. Yep, we end up shooting

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<v Speaker 2>jumpers or shooting dice are probably both. And uh that

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<v Speaker 2>that was my way of like earning bread around that

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<v Speaker 2>time in my life. Yeah, in school, Hey, I would

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<v Speaker 2>be at school and be counted absent because I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>in the gym shooting jumpers for money. I come, I

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<v Speaker 2>got three fifty in my pocket coming home today, though,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck it. I I deal with it with my pops.

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<v Speaker 2>That list of all them days you went out the

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<v Speaker 2>house with. Some days you miss home people. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you deal with it when it comes. But having

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<v Speaker 2>a having the pop step was like that. Like uh,

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<v Speaker 2>like when he left directing in the church, like he

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<v Speaker 2>went to doing security and body Garden. Back then they

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<v Speaker 2>recalled the Bodyguarden Bodyguarden, like Eddie, Eddie Murphy, Muhammad, Ali, Oprah,

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<v Speaker 2>Winfrey Man. The list goes on and on. Every Bulls rally.

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<v Speaker 4>They came through Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, every Bulls rally, my daddy worked the stage where

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<v Speaker 2>the bulls walk on the stage. That like he would

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<v Speaker 2>make sure ain't nothing, nigga. I'll tell you what, the

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<v Speaker 2>Blues Fest, the Taste of Chicago, the Jazz Fest. Like

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<v Speaker 2>he was a part of that crew that did all

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<v Speaker 2>of security for that. And my dad was always on stage.

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<v Speaker 2>So one day I'm at the Gospel Fest. It's probably

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<v Speaker 2>like somebody like the Kent's spirituals probably up there. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>got to walk across the stage. I saw my daddy

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<v Speaker 2>grab a grown man by here and here and turned

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<v Speaker 2>them sideways and walk them off. I say about beat

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<v Speaker 2>the ship out gospel because I know Uncle Ron. I

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<v Speaker 2>call him Uncle Ron, like my daddy buddies all in

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<v Speaker 2>my right there. I know they about the dog this way,

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<v Speaker 2>they about to dog this man on the side. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also said, if my daddy picked the grown man

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<v Speaker 2>up like that, I'm fucking up in school. I'm tripping.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you just bugging out?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you just hooping to gamble? Are you? Are you

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<v Speaker 4>going to school and hooping for the team too?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you just's what's crazy? I'll tell you this, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a real story. I went to school and I

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<v Speaker 2>was one of those kids that grew up in our neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Basketball was always available. I don't care if he was

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<v Speaker 2>in the alley hoop and I don't care you went

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<v Speaker 2>to the park. I don't care we went to the park.

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<v Speaker 2>We ain't supposed to, Uh, hooping in Chicago, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>go to parks that you know is the opposite of

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<v Speaker 2>how you grew up. You know what I'm saying. Far

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<v Speaker 2>as a gang wise or whatever, you notice in the

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<v Speaker 2>whole nother hood. You've been over here, you know this area,

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't hoop at this park. You ain't never

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<v Speaker 2>got You ain't got out the car and been around

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<v Speaker 2>these niggas, and the car is just as far away

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<v Speaker 2>from you because it is from him. Yeah, Like, nigga,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta you gotta face the wolves. You gotta go

0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.879
<v Speaker 2>dance with the lions. And I think surviving in that city,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes you fearless, not being the enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, if you know you ain't the enemy, you walking,

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<v Speaker 2>you about to go on the liquor store. It's about

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<v Speaker 2>six niggas out there, and that you out the car,

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<v Speaker 2>you get back, you go back in the car, You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna look like everything. Yeah, you might well keep on

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<v Speaker 2>what's up? Brother, that's how y'all doing? Before they say something,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the mother fucking store. I ain't listening to

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<v Speaker 2>you come talk back. I'm just letting you know, Nigga,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not the nigga killch your cousin. Nigga, I ain't

0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.359
<v Speaker 2>fight you in high school. Nigga, ain't the nigga that

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<v Speaker 2>and you hear my accent, Nigga, I am not. But

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta be fearless if you ain't got shit to hide.

0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:23.959
<v Speaker 2>It's like in a mob, bro, if you ain't got

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<v Speaker 2>it to hide him, since you shake and stutter or nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>and just speak your truth and shut the fuck up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And I think that was my way of

0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.960
<v Speaker 2>being fearless, of moving out here to La Hell. Yeah,

0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.280
<v Speaker 2>all that shit. It's like it. Keep it, keep you

0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 2>tied in it, keep you focused too, cause sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>might do the best out of three and then Nigga,

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<v Speaker 2>that's losing. Like Nigga, let's do one for one alright.

0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.880
<v Speaker 2>That means you gotta be so owned to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where if you know about jump shots, like Nigga, you

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<v Speaker 2>hit enough for them. It's a feeling. It's not even

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<v Speaker 2>how far you from the rim or nothing, nigga, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a feeling. And Nigga, I got really good. I got

0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:58.000
<v Speaker 2>used to that feeling. Very fast. And it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the same with music. Sometimes when you're on stage, this

0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:01.680
<v Speaker 2>song might be next on the list, but you got

0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:02.320
<v Speaker 2>some guys behind you.

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<v Speaker 1>They can follow you black niggas, they won't.

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<v Speaker 2>They want the one after that, and you're going out

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<v Speaker 2>there and you're black. I don't want to do something different.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they setting up for what did you just told him?

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<v Speaker 2>They getting ready so about and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Know when they hit it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all of his basketball is knowing how to penetrate.

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<v Speaker 2>You see him over there, but the more you look

0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:20.560
<v Speaker 2>over there, it's gonna you gonna give him up. Theyga

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<v Speaker 2>don't look over there, but let then they keep moving

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.280
<v Speaker 2>you on. That's what made magic so ill. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to give up what he was about to do

0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:28.639
<v Speaker 2>so much and him that's why he got to know

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.760
<v Speaker 2>the passes off and it it's like it's it's a

0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a certain concentration in penetration that you that you

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<v Speaker 2>get in basketball that you could assess to other things

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:36.560
<v Speaker 2>in life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So you following school around.

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<v Speaker 2>Man and well when he get in the garage, boy

0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.119
<v Speaker 2>boom boom, just like them clothes. He call me with

0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:50.159
<v Speaker 2>the clothes. No, nah, I'll tell you this. If I'm like, Mama,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go, She's like, you gotta take bj

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take about two three hits in the chest

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 2>before we get in the kind of garage because he's like, niggas,

0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, I want to do me, Nigga, you're messing

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.479
<v Speaker 2>up my flow. I'm like up, but I'm flying shit niggas.

0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.399
<v Speaker 2>By the time we get there, they his homies happy

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<v Speaker 2>to see me. Bro. Yeah, yeah, but I understand what

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing with my brother, like he probably wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do some a little different than what he told

0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.199
<v Speaker 2>my mama, you know how. Yeah, but nigga, they got

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:21.280
<v Speaker 2>a little sister, nigga, what's up? And that is that

0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 2>that happened quite a few times. So it's like, you know,

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I learned a lot from hanging out with my brothers

0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 2>far more mature than me. So even when I got

0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.200
<v Speaker 2>back around people my age, it stood out in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ways. Having a father that I had, having

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<v Speaker 2>a mother that I had, helped me not be outside

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:42.760
<v Speaker 2>to a certain point, to the point where certain shit

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 2>was only stories. Man, I heard when certain niggas got shot,

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 2>but I wouldn't there. It was it was the survival

0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 2>of me. You know what I'm saying, dude, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just it was the illest Aaron being the oldest Aaron

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:55.679
<v Speaker 2>was you know, he was the one of them. You know,

0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:57.239
<v Speaker 2>get a couple of dollars, man, he like, man, clean

0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:58.119
<v Speaker 2>them gym shoes for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you. I'll be there like, yeah, try.

0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:03.119
<v Speaker 2>To clean them souls in the ones. Just so you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. I give me a little quick

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.960
<v Speaker 2>ten fifteen dollars, twenty dollars man. I I've learned to

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 2>utilize my big big brothers is big brothers. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, If an't working at the

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<v Speaker 2>store or something, nigga, you know, hit me up there.

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I'm in school, Nigga. Y'all got to

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 2>shoot hook up at foot locker from the homie. They

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.360
<v Speaker 2>can bring me some something back, Nigga. I'm a little

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 2>and I represent y'all. Nigga. Yeah yeah, nigga, yeah yeah,

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Or nigga, just bring me to y'all level, nigga, because

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I understand it. Y'all know I know how to put

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:29.920
<v Speaker 2>it together. You got the link, nigga. You got five nigga,

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:31.359
<v Speaker 2>give me one nigga And if you got five, you

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 2>could get six, especially if you tell Willie it's for BJ.

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<v Speaker 7>So had your brothers did they leave when they turned

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 7>eighteen or did they stay in Chicago though?

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was the first one to move to LA,

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 2>but my brothers moved out the house.

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<v Speaker 4>And but they still stayed in the city.

0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>But they still stay in the city. Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>But what made you go to LA?

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Interesting question? So in high school, I I knew I

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I you knew you were special musically, yes, people even

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:16.400
<v Speaker 2>to get back to the basketball team.

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:16.640
<v Speaker 1>My bad.

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm all over the place. But when I went to

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 2>high school, nigga, I hooped so much every day. Nigga,

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm just nigga. You hear basketball and then you looking

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 2>out the windows seeing who out that drilling. Nigga know

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 2>if you should go hoop? If it's time yet, Nigga

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. That's the neighborhood. So nigga, yeah,

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 2>I went in there to try to play. But when

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I saw ja uh Varsiti, I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, motherfucker. These niggas go overhead jav.

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Real quick, try it out? What's crazy? I mean, it's

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.719
<v Speaker 2>next try But nigga, I didn't even go back. I

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't go back. I don't know why, but I still

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 2>hung with the Hoopers Shine Dock Reality and there was

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 2>my niggas, like these were my niggas. So nigga, I

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.639
<v Speaker 2>I walked it in our school. The music side is

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>like this hallway. It's like it's like an extension to

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the building. And to get over there, you know, wonder

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 2>over there. You Yeah, I said, I'm about to go

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 2>the church drummer.

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to go see what these thiggas overhead DoD nigga.

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 2>My cousin. My cousin Charles was in the band. He

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 2>played drums at church. Uh something, about to go and

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 2>see what it's about here, Like nigga Actu you the

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 2>band nigga kind of cool? You should go. So I'm like, then,

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I see you gotta walk past the choir room, the

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 2>piano room, in the band room. So I'm like, okay,

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 2>go in the band room. I got a class with

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 2>this nigga.

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I notice.

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Band coolest hell, it ain't no really nerdy ass band.

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's people that more book heavy than student heavy.

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 2>It was some nerds in the band, but the band

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 2>was actually niggas that'll beat your ass, come kick it

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 2>with you, nigga going out to eat nigga where the

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 2>girls at like. I was like, Nigga, I can rock

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 2>with this. So Nigga. I joined the band. I became

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 2>section leader within a month. It was a rule in

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>the band that you must know how to read music

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 2>to join this band and to excel in this band.

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 2>I never took music as a as a class, never

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:02.880
<v Speaker 2>took music as a class.

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I learned.

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I was Nick Cannon.

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:05.880
<v Speaker 1>You play it, I can remember it.

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Because church is every genre, and one Sunday every genre

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>you might got, you got. The next day you're doing funk,

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 2>and next thing though you're doing this nigga, you're playing

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>R and B for offering. It's every freaking genre. Bro praise,

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 2>some worship, be country music.

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 2>It's every So I adapted very fast, and people that

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 2>thought they were supposed to have that spot but never

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 2>look at me like so they make niggas battle. I'm

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>used to playing the whole set. You canna make. You

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 2>played this one thing. I'm playing the ram everything, but

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing it in a way that you wouldn't play

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 2>it because you play it, you come from this way

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:46.119
<v Speaker 2>of playing it. I come from a different way of

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 2>planning it.

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 2>I played for my soul. That's how I can listen

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>to play. And they got never they never beat me.

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I was sexually until I didn't want to be sexually

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 2>to no more.

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>He ain't taking music as a class.

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 2>I just sit back there and let mister Key tell him,

0:26:57.960 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 2>like to shut the fuck up and man their business.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Let him fight my battles. Just be a g what

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 2>you're saying the mob don't don't you got sation? But

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>my band leader was like one, two three four. He'd

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>be like, what the I love mister Key to this day,

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 2>mister Key, because when you're from the hood, majority of

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 2>us need to be talked like that, to be talked.

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Listen, listen, respect people.

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 3>It's so much floating around online that that people get

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:45.959
<v Speaker 3>to judge from from from their private schools and and

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 3>and and from their higher learning and this upper eche

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 3>line of believing. When you don't come from that place,

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 3>you don't understand what it takes to get through to

0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 3>a kid with the principal said, if you take him

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 3>home and never bring him back, I'll pass him. Get

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 3>him the fuck here. What are you gonna tell him?

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 3>You want to sit him down and have a conversation

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 3>with him? No, you nah, Pops needed to go upside

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 3>my head need that differently, Yeah, you need that real Badley.

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>It was that. What's crazy is.

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>We understood what we understood, what we had to do

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 2>every week in the house. He wants to he want

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 2>the house clean Wednesday. God damn Friday. If you don't

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 2>do a Friday, better be done before you leave Saturday

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 2>to do whatever your all day ship is, or you

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 2>got a problem when you return Saturday night, you got

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 2>a problem. And from responsibility to just knowing, like Nigga,

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 2>that ship was right. Nigga, who what the you got

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 2>three boys? My mom is the only lady in the house, Nigga.

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Nigga yea.

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 2>And nigg we watch her car. We have to do

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 2>all that, Nigga. We have to do all that. Nigga.

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I still love and appreciate and Nigga, I praised my

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>mother man, she not just being a mother, but like

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 2>understanding what Sometimes it was important to me that really

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 2>what he's supposed to be like Nigga could be on

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>punishment and having a field trip you going to such

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and such a nigga, one of them trips. Everybody need

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 2>need a new outfit my day. Like you ain't getting

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 2>she you ain't even going on trip. My mama like

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 2>give me that slip. She side a slip, nigga. One

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>of the trip niggas. She comeing able to little Nike

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>fit from coals, some super mess shorts with a knight.

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 2>You sound on that, nigga. Some socks. Nigga, You got

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 2>your shoes a nigga, And she like hurry up and

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 2>put it on while my daddy sleep and she give

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 2>me about it and I go to the trip. It's like, nigga,

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 2>my mom's just you don't beat that kind of love, bro.

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 2>You don't beat the display, the affection, the unconditional love.

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 2>That's like the first time to get of unconditional love

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>in the household with some of us. I understand something did,

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>but nigga, that was the first sign I ever had

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>an undditional love.

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Nigga. My mom will call me right a nigga, I give.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Me five minutes, I'll be back, or slide the four

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 2>on the mice makes you everything all right? But my

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>mom is like that, yeah, but it was crazy. My

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 2>son share the same birthday as my mom. Wow, yeah, dude,

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe even my magic was like, you know, like when

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Pops passed away, my pop saw me. He's like, Nigga,

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 2>you gonna have a boy. I was like, Nigga's Thanksgiving.

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 2>We all drinking, niggas, playing dominoes, smack of the table, nigga,

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 2>the kids running around a matter of fact, she is again,

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 2>then we're gone and you're praying for the cow before

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 2>the milk. Milk for the cow passed away. Two years

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 2>after that, long and behore. Both my brothers got all girls.

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I had the first boy of our generation. It's like, nigga, wow,

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 2>how to hell you? And he said it laughing. Atter

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>you feel this cup of black nigga? So how do

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 2>you know? It's just it's just that thing, man. It's

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 2>it's those things that mand you. The life is real

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>beyond your control. Yeah, some things in life. It really

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>is magical in a beautiful way.

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 3>When you're moving to La is this is this? Are

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 3>you getting the blessings to make this move? Because I'm

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 3>sure it wasn't a it wasn't an easy one.

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Nigga, I ain't had luggage there it is, I ain't luggage.

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I know that, I know that move.

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 4>Did you have luggage?

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Nigga?

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I had?

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I had whatever I had, Yeah, I had. I had

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 3>a thousand dollars in the car. Let me tell you

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 3>I had shoes. I bought shoes.

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, gotta have gotta have a kick or to

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 2>just so if you need to gowhere you like it, yeah, drip,

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 2>go back home.

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 4>But you have something that you need.

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>To get you yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep. So Aaron

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 2>gets married, schoolter traveling. Both of my brothers had passports

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 2>before me, like traveling the world doing music, not just

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>doing some frivolus ship. Like doing music. That was one

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>of the first things that I ever saw that made

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 2>me believe that excuse me, that it really it happened,

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 2>happened beyond a gig.

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 7>You know, when does it click for you? Like, Okay,

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 7>I really want to be an artist. I want to start,

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 7>you know, I want a record deal, because I'm sure

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 7>at this point now you're hearing about all the things

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 7>you hear about the record, that you hear about the

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 7>publishing deal you hear. You know what I'm saying like,

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 7>because once you're in it, yeah, now the world opens up.

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I was.

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I was low key for real, for I was running

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 2>more close to being a songwriter when I first first

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>got here being an artist. I knew I would be

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 2>an artist, never knowing when the time would come. Having

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>the job when I landed was a huge blessing. Working

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 2>with Mary and Mary I siting back ground for them.

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I remember doing the church on a Friday with them

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 2>and Saturday week in New York at a baseball stadium

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>and bust the rhymes on the show.

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>They would do.

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 2>They would fit places, they were finished everywhere, Yeah, everywhere.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>And it was really cool for me to have that

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 2>experience because and like I want so Nigga, I would

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>be the songs I'm working on. I would be giving

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 2>warrant c d's like tell me how can I write

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 2>and get better? Or tell me if you could use this.

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to figure it out.

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 4>And so he was mentoring you through a lot of

0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 4>it early on.

0:32:58.520 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>In a sense. Yeah.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 7>And then.

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>They had like a Taco Sunday or something at their

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>crib and I went and Harrold was there. I was like, Nigger,

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I heard a lot about you boy. And when I

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 2>saw how country and southern love and he was I

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>was like, bro, man, then give me your number. Bro,

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I gotta call you, because is it cool if I

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 2>just bug you? Sometimes he was like, Shorty, you.

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Cool.

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 4>He's probably all the twenty at the time.

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 2>To put the pencil with a pencil. So it would

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 2>be times where during the week I would catch a

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 2>cab to Big John's office just to go in that

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 2>little blue studio back that would held and write, watch

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>him write all these songs Baby Mama for Fantasia and

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 2>all that type of stuff. I would begin to see

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 2>real product made in a real factory, in real place.

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>And I really didn't know who Big John well, I

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 2>knew what he did.

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I was.

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know, like to what, I'm just thinking the

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>blue here for her, and I'll begin to start like,

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 2>motherfuckers hair, can I come again, nigga? Yeah, you come again?

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>After Wire was like what you think about this bridge,

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 2>and He'll walk out and go to the cafeteria, come

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>back like you got something. I was like, what do

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 2>you want to here?

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I got something that So get that song get up

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 2>being Nikes fresh off the box Mario.

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Place.

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I wrote that Bridge. Not my first. That's my first

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 2>R and B placement for sure. My first placement was

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 2>with Ramsey Lewis Urban Nights. So Kevin Randolph was always like,

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 2>that's like Ramsey, Well rest the piece of Ramsey, but

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>that was like Ramsey's piano son, you know. And Kevin

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 2>thought my writing had got to a point where I

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.240
<v Speaker 2>could at least like write that hook and let Ramsey

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>do that firse thing and you know, like NI, get

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 2>your feet wet, get your a check, learn how this go,

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 2>get your published name, started to just get it together.

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 2>And that was the beginning. That was like the first

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 2>So then Ramsey called us for the next one. And

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 2>then so I was like, alright, cool, now we in

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 2>and no, nigga, how about this my first R and

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 2>B placement. That's how I'm at tank Oh shit yeah,

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 2>ah shit right. So my brother School is singing background

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 2>for Dave Hollister and school to be playing like little

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 2>songs that make it with Kevin, like the Fireings he

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 2>be playing on the road, So day like who the

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>fuck is that? What is that? And Dave wanted to

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>meet me, So nig I come to the show when

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 2>they come to Chicago, Dave cool as fuck everything pan out.

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 2>He was like, man, I I'm working on the album

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 2>and I know you could get something for me. Man,

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 2>just just send me some shit, Send me some of

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 2>the best shit you got. So I went back to

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 2>my record some shit, got a song. Place came to

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 2>LA and I do not I wish I remember what

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 2>studio we were in h in Hollywood. It's Tank walks in.

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Dave is working on the joint that Brandy ex husband

0:35:58.600 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 2>was working on.

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>What big bird oh big b yeah yeah yeah.

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Thing came in, plugged that keyboard up, had the mother

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 2>fucks getting ship together. And when the keyboard was working,

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this nigga crazy, This nigga crazy, you

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 2>know Dave Dave always looking around like the day he

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 2>was like like.

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And low key.

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Then I just begin to put everything together from music

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 2>you will put you were putting out. It was like, Bro,

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 2>those the days I will never ever, ever, ever, ever

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 2>fucking forget. That was before I even decided to be

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 2>an artist. I was still just trying to be an

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 2>amazing songwriter and learn more and he probably try to

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 2>be the next herold Lily if I could, you know,

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>that was one of my favorite songwriters in writing because

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>he knew how to take that thing. And and then

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 2>later understanding about the underdogs, and now I was like, God,

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 2>damn y'all motherfuckers and some dogs fuck.

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 4>Under Did you get a publishing deal?

0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 2>No? I did not do it.

0:36:58.239 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>You didn't.

0:36:58.560 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 4>You didn't do one?

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Nope, I didn't. I didn't. Harold also told me it

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 2>wasn't best for me to do a publishing deal, and

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 2>he also explained to me the difference between a publishing

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 2>deal and at men deal and so forth, and then

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>explain what I should do when I when it was

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 2>best for the time. One of the most solid people

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 2>that I met in this music game, because he's not

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 2>just the I know the same herold you know, and

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you know you know the same hero he knows. You know,

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:27.320
<v Speaker 2>people like that in the game one nigga Ralph with

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>another nigga. You know, if very few people know the

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 2>same person in that person.

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 1>First the start of it, niggas be.

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Switching up and it's not too many people. That's the

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 2>same person with everybody, And what everybody know was a

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 2>good person. Everybody can know the same asshole, you know

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. But man like Harold was just he

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 2>wasn't just informative, but he gave me something to do

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 2>to keep me busy, to understand how it works, and

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 2>just giving me advice. Ended up getting my own songs

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 2>placed on Mario and some time after that, and but

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Mario was one of the first albums that I really

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be a part of at one point once

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I met him at Record Plant and we both found

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 2>that like Nigga, that we loved the same style of

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>R and B singing. It was like super R and B.

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 2>But Harold got that soul and Warn't got that soul

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 2>in on Mario. And then that's when you got to

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 2>brave my hair. When you look at me, I know

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 2>all that soulfulness into the R and B. It adds

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:38.760
<v Speaker 2>and helped him form what he has because the nigga, Honestly,

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 2>him and Eric Doggins are two of the craziest motherfuckers

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I've ever sat and watched cut vocals like dog I'm

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 2>about to go, I'm about to go Yeah. But yeah,

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to work with Mario. Seeing somebody young

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 2>like that, with vocal talent, with vocal understand and with

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 2>musical understanding like that, and being around people that I've admired.

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be a part of that. I wanted

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.720
<v Speaker 2>to take part in his legacy in a sense because

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.760
<v Speaker 2>even back then I only wanted to work with magical things.

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to work on something that I knew I

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 2>could stand out in because of what I've listened to

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.800
<v Speaker 2>and what niggas played before. I could control that radio.

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, you better not touch my radio. What they

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 2>planning after listen to that? But that babyface, that right,

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 2>and that simplicity something else and that anytime he played

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 2>that and we was going out to eat to the

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 2>steakhouse or the buffet or something, and I'm in the

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>back of that stanking lanker and he playing that babyface,

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this nigga really good and I'm gonna get it.

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 2>We'll say about being young with those antennas being.

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Uplay, let it play, don't touch nothing?

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Can you stand the ring?

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Same thing, exact same thing.

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 2>That Minnesota period is so special musically. People do not

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 2>give Minnesota the credit. It's just the Jimmy Jam Terry

0:39:56.120 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Lewis the Purple one and I'm men condition next I

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 2>got Come on, I'm sure people, I don't even know.

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 4>The coldest songwriters I believe.

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, yes, sir. I didn't know they was from Minnesota.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 2>From Minnesota just sucked me up with that next that's

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 2>what's up. Yeah, man, the Midwest. It's very very special musically, man.

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I had the job with Mary and Mary

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 2>and I'm shopping the songs around, got the got to

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.240
<v Speaker 2>end up end up in the studio with Warren, Lily

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and Mario and.

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I was addicted. Bro. Yeah, oh my god.

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I never felt I highlight that over in my life

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 2>musically from Chicago being here like that, knowing you just

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 2>pull up to the studio, seeing how it happens. Being apart,

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, nigga, I ain't going back for nothing.

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:44.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm here.

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the feeling that we all get, and

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 2>that we all got honestly when we all came here.

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Is it's very real mm hmm, right, Like it's it's tangible.

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 2>You get here and you're like, oh, that song that

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 2>this random nigga just played me a month ago is

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 2>now the biggest song in the world.

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 4>Crazy, and that don't happen nowhere else.

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not at that time.

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? For me? You know what

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:13.879
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 4>I didn't go to New York, I didn't go to Atlanta.

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 7>I came to La Obviously it was closer for me

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 7>coming from San Francisco.

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:21.359
<v Speaker 4>It was the closest place for me to go.

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 7>But in San Francisco, I didn't know nobody that literally

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 7>placed records, you know what I mean, Like you knew

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 7>niggas that have local records, that you got a record

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 7>that that blew up out the city that became you

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 7>know what I'm saying, Like we had rapid fote, you

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 7>got the Players Club and go Platum and we're like.

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh, this is amazing. But you didn't. I didn't know

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 4>niggas that were literally.

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:46.760
<v Speaker 7>Really placing records somebody in the system. In the system,

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean, the Who's Looking List, you

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 7>remember them. Shit, they used to sit out like I

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 7>don't even know it exists.

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Ever, the first day to act sing.

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 7>When I was like, wait, so okay, so they want

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 7>this type of song and they want this is it?

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.399
<v Speaker 4>And then you realize, like all that shit, they don't

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 4>want none of that ship that's on those papers.

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Later, yes, yes, yes, like it together.

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 2>It was so exciting to be that close to it

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 2>to to touch it to Philly, it was. It was

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 2>super exciting, man, and that kind of started the the hunger.

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 2>What kind of started the ship for the artistry.

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 4>It was.

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what album.

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it was the damn the album after Confessions.

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:28.959
<v Speaker 2>It was a Hero I Stand or something like that.

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and d No, Yeah it was.

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 2>So at this time, my mom, I'm in Philly working

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 2>with Drave for Dow a lot, like to the point

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 2>where I'm out there so long, I'm sending my rent back.

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even coming back, like, I'm just out there.

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 2>And I had songs that I brought out there to Philly,

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 2>and I worked on songs in Philly with dan Va

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Dow for Usher and a few other artists they were

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 2>working for. We came up with some very unique records

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 2>that we thought were dope. When you're a young writer

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 2>and you don't know exactly what a nigga wont if

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 2>it's if it's unique enough, you're willing to play it

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 2>to see if a nigga can over like sell it,

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 2>because it's the unique with the nigga.

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 1>That could sell it. Oh shit, you know.

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 2>So were trying to wait for that other half of

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 2>the math to add up, but it wasn't adding up.

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, what y'all think about me just

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 2>keeping these motherfucking records? I was like, for you, I

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 2>was like, yep, Like Nigga is all, what the fuck

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 2>us we're gonna do with them? I was like, yup,

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Like just give me a monk with them, Like, let

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 2>me chucklet's put these motherfuckers out, just see what happened.

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 2>I was like, all right, those the records that kind

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>of started the the whiff after Pineapple, because Pineapple was

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 2>like Pineapple was the time that I was singing in

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 2>our background for Usher. I left Mary Mary and went

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 2>to Usher.

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 4>And you were Usher during confessions.

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah shit, that's crazy.

0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, pantees the on you. I've never seen nothing

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 2>like that in my life. I went to the mall

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 2>with them one day just to see what then happens.

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:12.399
<v Speaker 2>I wanted.

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I said, how the fuck do you go to the mall.

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 4>To you to the ma shut it down?

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Yesther reason Nigga we took a break from sound check

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 2>was what he was doing.

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>He's uh.

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.959
<v Speaker 2>Live in Puerto Rico, live on showtime in Puerto Rico,

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 2>and my nigga, Ryan, love it, Ryan, love it man.

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 2>He came back like he did a nigga that Wu

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 2>was school me how us would be like certain ships,

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 2>saying or he would like give me the details so

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I can because we clicked verywhere, like, nigga, I know

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 2>you would kill this. I just want to tell you

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 2>what he liked so you could just already like I'm

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.799
<v Speaker 2>like all right, ben, So Ryan put me on the game.

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Me and Ryan became really close, so he so he

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:52.800
<v Speaker 2>went over there to see what they was talking about. He

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.319
<v Speaker 2>was like, go to the mall when we take a break.

0:44:55.400 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I said, nigga, I'm going to We're going to. You

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 2>ain't tell me for me to get this information and

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 2>drink a gateorway till y'all get back.

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:06.879
<v Speaker 1>You gotta be fucked up.

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 2>So nigga, I went to the mars like you going too.

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 2>So it's maybe but myself, Elijah USh, Terrence, Ryan is

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 2>probably about seven eight of us. We're getting to tomorrow.

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 2>First maybe four people see us, then thirty. It was

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.439
<v Speaker 2>from four to thirty, and then thirty went from thirty.

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:25.439
<v Speaker 1>To three hundred.

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 2>To the point where to the point where we came in,

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:33.919
<v Speaker 2>we were just close. Now I'm on the other side

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 2>of that wall.

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 1>And people between us. So me and Ryan like.

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Nigga, we gotta get back because if they move and

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>go through a door, then you let Nigga. So we

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 2>get back and now we we holding on like Elijah

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Jacket like Nigga. They walker were walking.

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 1>We all like Nigga, we together.

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I remember Nigga one time. This girl they was like

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 2>she kept like trying to put the phone in his

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 2>fucking like touch his nose with the phone. Life just

0:45:56.160 --> 0:46:03.280
<v Speaker 2>like yo, chill out. Somehow she get back phone. Feel

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 2>imagine a seat of five hundred people in the phone

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 2>is kicked through the gaps of everybody's and then you

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.439
<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna see them pictures. So with just to see

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 2>that that level of pandemonium, bro, and really like of

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:23.720
<v Speaker 2>somebody in one of the pinnacles of their musical career,

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 2>blew my fucking mind.

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I got back to the sound check, like, how the.

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Fuck this nigga be doing that ship?

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Because Nigga everywhere he go, Bro, it was. It was

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 2>such an amazing experience. Man. I learned so much from Mary,

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Mary to from the details of singing need that track

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 2>you all the details they sing and them girls got

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 2>some ship inchapellas they talk about. Man, listen them girls.

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 2>If you if you get Mary Mary acapellas, it'll bless

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 2>your soul just as much as the album with all

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the music and not only learning what they were singing,

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>but how to sing it, how to project yourself where

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 2>it comes out right, even with background vocals and the

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 2>band and their vocals, that I learned so much of

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 2>how to do it right in a real productive and

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 2>production type of way versus at church just singing. Churches

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:17.840
<v Speaker 2>have just now begin to elevate it. And it feels

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:21.839
<v Speaker 2>like in yes, yes, yes, yes, because I came from

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the same type of church like you as an old

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 2>man in there or an old lady and there, singing

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 2>before any musician theyver you donna get there. It's called devotion.

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Huh yeah, so.

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 1>It's called devotion.

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, usher, I learned how to the inflections that

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I learned with Mary Mary, how to take that times ten,

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 2>because fuck what your personal what your favorite part is?

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Sing this song?

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Sing damn song? Yeah?

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Fuck what your favorite part is? Sing this whole motherfucker

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 2>like it's your favorite part. And that's what like elevated,

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 2>and then me and Usher got cool to them, like, Nigga,

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 2>what you did, Nigga that last take? Nigga, that shit

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 2>called like you should do that shit. I'm not even

0:47:58.040 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 2>like I'm talking to the boss, but I'm like, Nigga,

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 2>that shit was yet because Nigga, I feel like I've

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.240
<v Speaker 2>connected with that is.

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Your your your your gift qualifies you in the space

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 3>within the conversation.

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. It's not like suggestion. You

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>told me.

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I feel the same way. But you know, sometimes when

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 2>it's working, you ain't been here long, you ain't you know,

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't care.

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel comfortable. But but but but killers no killers.

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. We know we we know

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:39.399
<v Speaker 1>when it's a.

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Nigga that is this that singing backgrounds or you know

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, or Nigga's that's not really in this space.

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 1>He ain't selling records, he's not doing this. But you

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>can look at him like this. That's they look that

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Nigga would do.

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 2>That's the fun that it would do. I swear, god, bro,

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 2>that's to look like, you know, between songs, Babby playing

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:03.839
<v Speaker 2>niggas just be singing around and it turned to something.

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Now he's singing the song we singing, just playing around

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 2>that look black. Yeah, because you're you're in his ears, nigga, Yeah,

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 2>you're in his ears. No, man, those relationships and it's

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:18.759
<v Speaker 2>so what I'm asking about for you is like Mary

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:22.919
<v Speaker 2>Mary now usher And of course you've you've, you've you've

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 2>banded and bonded with you know, other background singers and

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:28.880
<v Speaker 2>other musicians. Are you now when you say you go

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.880
<v Speaker 2>to drama Dad say hey man, maybe maybe maybe me?

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Are you starting to feel like, as you've been around

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 3>this level, that you're like.

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:40.959
<v Speaker 1>I can do it. Oh I belong here?

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 8>Yeah yeah, uh huh that thing work?

0:49:56.760 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 4>Huh. Yes, make sure you play like you're playing for

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.839
<v Speaker 4>Dave Pallas the back of the day. Man, don't let

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 4>him down.

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Now, Tant tant Tank Definitely. I forgot which dog he

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 2>had on the album. He had a dog on the album.

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Him and I used to listen to watching Mill Soup

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Joint those on that too.

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's some jam water BJ the Chicago kid. You

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:31.920
<v Speaker 1>come from a place.

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:43.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well we know it's in your blood, so also

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 5>in your clothes and such waiting early.

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>As you've been able to create great music.

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 3>There's great music that has also inspired you to be

0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:57.799
<v Speaker 3>who you are.

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>We want know your favorites. Okay, the people do too.

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:12.359
<v Speaker 1>We call that here. You're well. We called m hm.

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Top five your top five? Okay, top your top five

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>ould be missing ory okay, yes, we got to do

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:40.359
<v Speaker 1>did not you go there wrong?

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.760
<v Speaker 6>Is you?

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 6>Ye?

0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir?

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 6>You yeah?

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm.

0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 1>B j the Chicago kids, Yes, sir? What's that? Your

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>top five.

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 2>R and B singers, Top five R and B singers

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 2>and no order, no particular order.

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe, Yeah, favorite, Yeah, one of my favorites. Kick this

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:49.760
<v Speaker 1>ship off. Talk to talk about.

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Joe.

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Joe. They don't talk about Joe enough. Joe. This is

0:52:57.920 --> 0:52:59.840
<v Speaker 1>hard because I only got four left. God damn this.

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:00.399
<v Speaker 1>It's tough.

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Joe. The music exists. R Kelly, The music exists. I

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't condone.

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:12.719
<v Speaker 1>The music exists. Joe.

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:17.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say usher, m and I'm gonna say

0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 2>usher because it's a time where I seen him hit

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 2>the gas again.

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Nigga.

0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:39.320
<v Speaker 2>His verse on that Chris Brown record. I said, Nigga,

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I hear your precisest I see what you're trying it's quick. Yeah,

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 2>that's quick. A surgeon for sure, for sure and precise

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:51.360
<v Speaker 2>to be quick. Yeah, you could be quick and slide.

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:54.799
<v Speaker 2>That's not that it was like, no, give me, I

0:53:54.800 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 2>could tell yeah Stokely, Yeah, Stokely's real range, his real authentic.

0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Range is messing around, and that Stevie Wonder range.

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yes, And I don't feel like I got

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:11.919
<v Speaker 2>to say Stevie. That's what we all know that certain

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 2>people above this they see on top of the Yeah. Yeah,

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:21.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't got to say that, Donny, we already know. Yes, yes, yes,

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:25.800
<v Speaker 2>so I said it kills Joe Usher, Stokely.

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Stokely, Jesus Christ.

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Only one more?

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Only one? Will there be one? Bro?

0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 2>It's too many. This nigga next to me is nigga

0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:38.920
<v Speaker 2>a fucking problem? Did y'all just hear the intro of my.

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a problem.

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Intro intro problem, That's what I'm saying. Only one, God

0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:55.480
<v Speaker 2>damn bro. All right, I'm gonna do this right. For

0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>my fifth I'm gonna say, Reggie Lewis, here's Chicago legend.

0:54:59.880 --> 0:55:00.439
<v Speaker 1>He like.

0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:06.120
<v Speaker 2>You like when the nigga's in the NBA. Still remember

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 2>like the nigga that gave him problems. He know they

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 2>was real fucking problems. Some of the problems that Nigga

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 2>gave him, niggas these days can't even give them that day.

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Reggie is that type of nigga. I'll be damned if

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I say everybody that people know Chicago has so many

0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 2>incredible ier freaking monster she is like when I first

0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:31.400
<v Speaker 2>heard of I was like Nigga Caes.

0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:33.600
<v Speaker 4>She never leave.

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Nigga sung the background for a one time during one

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 2>period of my life, my brother Aaron, myself and iSER

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 2>we three saying background for a five wasn't the biggest

0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:46.720
<v Speaker 2>paying gig I've ever had, but one of the funnest

0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:50.400
<v Speaker 2>because I was singing with three two other sons. Yeah,

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Hamilton was one of those gigs where I got

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 2>to sing with some sangers singers. Anthony Hamilton was that

0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:59.839
<v Speaker 2>gig where you could actually do the soulful like Jodasyes,

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 2>but through a background and your mic is on on.

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.560
<v Speaker 2>That was that gig for me, believe it or not,

0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:09.759
<v Speaker 2>I tell you a gym that very two people know.

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I got signed to Motown and that night I got

0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:17.360
<v Speaker 2>a call the same background for D'Angelo during that for

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 2>that tour he did. I was like sick because D'Angel

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 2>was somebody I always wanted to work with, and to

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:26.799
<v Speaker 2>know I got that call when God called me up.

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:30.319
<v Speaker 2>It's like, hey, do I got two minutes to think

0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 2>about this in the morning. Let me just ponder on

0:56:32.680 --> 0:56:34.640
<v Speaker 2>this for a minute, because I can't say no yet.

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:38.279
<v Speaker 2>It's not easy to say no when it's somebody you

0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:41.920
<v Speaker 2>really admire, and you get to learn from inside the clock,

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 2>like fuck being out Now it's a door and you

0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:46.680
<v Speaker 2>can walk in this clock and look up and see

0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 2>all the fucking mechanisms, and like, that's one of the

0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:50.839
<v Speaker 2>artists I would have loved to see because I'm such

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:55.040
<v Speaker 2>a Prince fan. He's a stuteent love. I'm a student

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:58.200
<v Speaker 2>of both of them. I love to see how people

0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:00.400
<v Speaker 2>think beyond what they choose to give us.

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Basically because there is a difference.

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, there there are levels to being behind that

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:12.319
<v Speaker 3>veil and be like you're not gonna use that, Yes,

0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:17.080
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna deviate from Yeah, it'd be so many things.

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Was like, I'm not gonna understand that. Let me just

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:21.080
<v Speaker 3>let me just stay right in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a song, right, I still got another five?

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Your top five.

0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Still got another five like you, I ain't here, none

0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 2>of the women.

0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Yet your top five R and B songs? Oh man,

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 1>mm hmm. Can the ring easy? That's easy?

0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 2>As we lay it because we're gonna be.

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<v Speaker 4>Here thirty minutes.

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Pinpoint them as we lay?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you stand the Ring Landslides by the Dissey Chicks?

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I think.

0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Don't your music have some of the illness harmony of

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the best storytelling but placed perfectly white.

0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:10.840
<v Speaker 1>White Nigga R and B.

0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:15.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but same emotions, same I mean, yes, it's just say.

0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:20.040
<v Speaker 1>They have a way with still tones, yes.

0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 2>No verbrato sometimes and when they find you like yo.

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 3>What they have a way with still tones and moving

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:30.400
<v Speaker 3>just the middle note too to clash with the lower.

0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Note or drop on you to.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's there, it's it's for them, it's soul for

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 3>for for the outside looking in. There's a technicality to

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:49.560
<v Speaker 3>that that if you don't know the technical part of

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:51.360
<v Speaker 3>what they're doing, you're not going to be able to

0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 3>pull it off.

0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:54.520
<v Speaker 2>And you won't even probably really know that they You.

0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:58.120
<v Speaker 3>Won't understand what some of the craziest ship it's a

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 3>different language, Yes, it's a different I studied that ship

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:02.640
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like this, that's not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Exit.

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<v Speaker 2>Exit is one of the coldest.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth.

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<v Speaker 4>That was four, that's for That was because you had

0:59:13.320 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Disney Chicks as a landslide.

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:17.280
<v Speaker 2>I take it. It wasn't R and B, but I

0:59:17.320 --> 0:59:20.240
<v Speaker 2>just had to gotta take it. So fifth, last, but

0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 2>not least, D'Angelo, how does it feel?

0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Man?

0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:27.760
<v Speaker 2>It's too many. I know I left some off, y'all.

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I know put them in the comments.

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, that's one of the greatest songs of

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:35.800
<v Speaker 3>all times.

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I do too. I think so too.

0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Berother everything in that sect it's perfect, every perfect song.

0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I heard Rafael tell me the story of it, and

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:51.880
<v Speaker 2>there's so many imperfections in what we consider right.

0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:59.360
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's perfection. Yes, yes, it is coming together.

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<v Speaker 4>James Brown said, you feel this. I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Hum hm.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm hm hmm. Yeah. Let me go on. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>no next, I'm saying no names. I'm saying no names.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, I saying no name. He was we used

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<v Speaker 1>to leave what you need, don't say. She ain't saying

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<v Speaker 1>no names.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we're here now.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, very that's your part of the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, man, I know you listen. I know you

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<v Speaker 4>don't watch the show. You know the segment.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it, you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here, what's up? What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? All right?

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<v Speaker 7>Well we we play this game, all right, card I

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<v Speaker 7>ain't saying no names. Will you tell us a story?

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<v Speaker 7>Funnyer fucked up a funny and fucked up? The only

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<v Speaker 7>rule to the game. Okay, you can't say no names.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't say no names. I didn't think of a

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<v Speaker 7>good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on tour some years ago, and uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to a young lady over time, never met

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<v Speaker 2>her face to face two a time, close by, pop up?

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<v Speaker 2>Say cool, no problem? Yeah, two tickets?

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<v Speaker 4>Here you go?

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<v Speaker 2>You only use one?

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<v Speaker 6>Cool?

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<v Speaker 2>No problem? Even better? Ain't nobody with you? Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Get off stage? Incredible show. I don't really have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people backstage unless it's like because you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because when I get offstage, my brain is like the

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<v Speaker 2>TV with no cable, just like, sh let me come back,

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<v Speaker 2>get some channels back in this bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>You need me laying It's like, Yo, did you do

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy the show?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, yeah, I enjoyed the show. Can I see

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<v Speaker 2>before I need I drive out? Yeah? Send the address?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe get the address we get there, I go on

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<v Speaker 2>my bag. I don't take my whole bag out, have

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<v Speaker 2>like a little duffel of something I put when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>about to put on to the trees, I ain't taking

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<v Speaker 2>that bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Some stairs to do one thing. I'm on tour. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta be fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>Who gonna being these bitches down?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>When I get out the when I get out the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the vehicle with my bag, I see a

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<v Speaker 2>car in the driveway. I see a female dude. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched everything. I keep walking. As I get in the

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<v Speaker 2>front lobby, I hear a voice get out of a car.

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<v Speaker 1>I turn around.

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<v Speaker 2>The face looked for me, and man, mind, we never

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<v Speaker 2>met in person. So but I'm not I'm I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>let you. I think it could be somebody look just

1:03:22.040 --> 1:03:24.400
<v Speaker 2>like you. But I'm that player. I don't got it.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's like, hey Bees, and I'm like when she

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<v Speaker 2>got across that, hey Bee said, I remember what the

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<v Speaker 2>nigga looked like in the car. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, it's like you cool, your your people wait

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<v Speaker 2>for you or something. She's like no, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, cool, remember having my shower shit with me?

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<v Speaker 2>So we got upstairs, and she was like, no. I

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<v Speaker 2>offered her a drink. Somebody had brought me some Hennessy

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<v Speaker 2>Pure white brand new bottle. Hey man, I had poured

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, poor me, a little bit. I said, cheers.

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<v Speaker 2>When I cheers that glass. I drank it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I drink on my eyes open. I drink it.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at her.

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<v Speaker 2>She threw what was in the cup out like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a carpeted room, bro, she just do this first first,

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<v Speaker 2>wod nigga think like you just saw me open, take

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<v Speaker 2>the thing off. You didn't want it, just don't drink it.

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<v Speaker 2>But this this n C pre white fuck you wasting

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<v Speaker 2>for But anyway, that was just weird for so many reasons,

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<v Speaker 2>more than what I just said. I don't got time

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<v Speaker 2>to a lie mind you. I just got out of stage.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sweating and everything. I'm not about to go in

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<v Speaker 2>the shower because that was weird. So what I did

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<v Speaker 2>was I stood up start getting shot in the bag,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to waste time to really like assess

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<v Speaker 2>with the fuck nigga. Some ship is too red. Something

1:04:52.680 --> 1:04:56.360
<v Speaker 2>is burging, ye, some shit is burging, yeah, like ain't

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<v Speaker 2>no red? So long and behold she said something that

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<v Speaker 2>was like so wild. I was like, you wanna know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to go you you. So I got up,

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<v Speaker 2>got my shit, I walked out. She didn't move, she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do nothing. So what I did was like a

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<v Speaker 2>g I went to the front desk. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to close out of uh eight seventeen and

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<v Speaker 2>that's anything in there. Police clear the room because nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>The guy at the front there says I'm the only

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<v Speaker 2>one working tonight. I was like, I will and I

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<v Speaker 2>looked at him like you need to go clear the room.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went back to the same vehicle I got

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<v Speaker 2>out of. My manager comes downstairs and he's like my

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<v Speaker 2>role manager. He's like, so, what do you know what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on? I was like, Nigga. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>she owned, nigga, but I just know she's she she

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<v Speaker 2>not what her thumbs was given. You know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying and type of messaging. And the guy says from

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<v Speaker 2>the front desk, I'm about to go up there because

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<v Speaker 2>while I'm talking to the road manager, he's on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone calling up to the room. So she answers the

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<v Speaker 2>phone why I don't be dealing with this type of shit.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why immediately had a no, a zero tolerance for it.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I'm about to go up there. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so now me and the road managers walking

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<v Speaker 2>back to the vehicle. By the time we get to

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<v Speaker 2>the vehicle, the police is pulling up to the hotel

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<v Speaker 2>for her. I'm not knowing. I'm just like watching everything

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<v Speaker 2>after vehicle after the nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>So the police pull up.

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<v Speaker 2>And when the police pull up, I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you're on tour, you got that one

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<v Speaker 2>text of everybody. Yeah, I said, y'all, we out of

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<v Speaker 2>here in the next five minutes. Get your shit and

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<v Speaker 2>we I don't got time to I don't blend them

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<v Speaker 2>two worlds and two niggas like me being an artist.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not your father, but I would definitely have to

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<v Speaker 2>explain some shit to your family if anything ever happened

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<v Speaker 2>with in any kind of form. And I'm just not

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<v Speaker 2>of that, you know. I'm so niggas came downstairs. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>splash into y'all when we leave. So these niggas coming down,

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<v Speaker 2>they was like, who was that girl they had hog

1:07:08.480 --> 1:07:11.840
<v Speaker 2>tied bringing off? So they had to cuff her legs

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<v Speaker 2>in her hands. What because she didn't want to leave

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<v Speaker 2>the hotel?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? Bro wow wow Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't matter if you plan the smash, don't

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<v Speaker 2>plan the smash whatever. Know who you're talking to, because

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<v Speaker 2>when you come from a different era of meeting people,

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<v Speaker 2>you meet them the best comfortable, understandable way.

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<v Speaker 1>For your protection. Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Lo and behold everybody come downstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, who is that girl? They had hog tie bringing?

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<v Speaker 2>So now the police got her literally feet and hands

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<v Speaker 2>together like she about to go on the grill on

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<v Speaker 2>America's best barbecuer.

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<v Speaker 1>And we get all getting a vehicle.

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<v Speaker 2>Nigga, I ain't even take my shot to get in

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<v Speaker 2>the next sit like got I don't give nigga what

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<v Speaker 2>my safety? All that is way more putting any goofy shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't seen enough goofy.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have heard enough goofy stores for my friends for

1:08:00.920 --> 1:08:04.840
<v Speaker 2>me to even play any role in anybody else's goofy movie.

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<v Speaker 2>What what hell?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>So as soon as we get right before the freeway,

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<v Speaker 2>the car in front of us have an accident where

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<v Speaker 2>they hit the joint boom and hit the fucking roof.

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<v Speaker 2>They so now we like, nigga, we leaving the police.

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<v Speaker 2>We see an accident in front of us. He was like, yeah,

1:08:22.240 --> 1:08:23.320
<v Speaker 2>this is one of those days where you just got

1:08:23.360 --> 1:08:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to get the fuck out this city, this whole this

1:08:25.760 --> 1:08:29.160
<v Speaker 2>whole city, is this whole stuff. Yeah, we're out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what bad vibes feel like. And that was

1:08:31.439 --> 1:08:34.000
<v Speaker 2>enough for me to get out the hotel. But we

1:08:34.080 --> 1:08:36.439
<v Speaker 2>low key tried to get out and help the guy

1:08:36.479 --> 1:08:39.160
<v Speaker 2>that that was laying on his roof. This roof was

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<v Speaker 2>ship the cars upside down. Nigga like, I'm good, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, yep, you're good.

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<v Speaker 1>We out there. Good luck, that's all makes you good.

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<v Speaker 2>Brobody would sleep. We see the accident.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the nigga died there. Now then he was like.

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<v Speaker 2>We good and he was. I was like, nobody opened

1:09:01.600 --> 1:09:03.320
<v Speaker 2>the door, touch the cord of you see that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, y'alla be careful out here, man, go more than careful,

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<v Speaker 1>more than careful. And that was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you, man, I just I seen too much.

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<v Speaker 4>Nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't even have to drink the liquor. Why did

1:09:16.560 --> 1:09:19.120
<v Speaker 2>you throw it in this nice hotel with this cut?

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<v Speaker 1>You're weird though, poor execution.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, White Flag was really ten because like whatever question

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<v Speaker 2>you can ask if.

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<v Speaker 7>You trying to set me up, cause she go do

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<v Speaker 7>your show and go.

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<v Speaker 1>And go to slip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even being that many years ago, bro, you you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta you gotta understand, like I've seen, I've seen background

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<v Speaker 2>many years before even being an artist. So and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of friends I grew up with I still have.

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<v Speaker 2>This didn't excite me or bringing any extracurricular activity to

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<v Speaker 2>me that I never had before, even before a single

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<v Speaker 2>back background with ushers like nigga, I have friends, I

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<v Speaker 2>had a prime date. She was bad. It was I

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<v Speaker 2>have Yeah, I was I had enough person. I need

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<v Speaker 2>myself to, you know, have a good life and and

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<v Speaker 2>not really have to. But from the conversation, the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>Nigga the coolest fun like.

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<v Speaker 1>But the the Lord to sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a thing. It is a real thing. Like these

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<v Speaker 3>these these this especially with this new internet.

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<v Speaker 2>The Internet. Oh just keep being venting himself. Man, what

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<v Speaker 2>same old soul just to new.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you what Floyd Mayweather say, protect yourself

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<v Speaker 3>at all times.

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<v Speaker 2>And he ain't say that he gotta do it, but

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<v Speaker 2>he probably said the niggas been saying that before him,

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<v Speaker 2>but everywhere every where.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, you know, nigga head butted him in

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<v Speaker 3>the face and then wanted to hug.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get these.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so happy he did that, Bro, I was

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<v Speaker 2>so happy he did that because I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Get these point protection. At some point, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hug you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want Yeah, you don't get to you don't

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<v Speaker 3>get to disrespect me, offend me, and not get some

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<v Speaker 3>of that back.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I look at the world. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna teach my son. What yeah, and too, don't

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<v Speaker 2>you ain't you ain't always You ain't always got to

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<v Speaker 2>give it out to get it back. Some time you

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<v Speaker 2>could just be that type of day. But nigga, keep

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<v Speaker 2>your head on the swivel. You would be able to

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<v Speaker 2>still be the You could keep the controller in that

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<v Speaker 2>situation at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>You keep your head on.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the world is just such a crazy place,

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<v Speaker 3>and the world is the world is looking. People are

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<v Speaker 3>always looking for an advantage and and and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean to tell my son like this, like

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<v Speaker 3>my wife gets on me, like I don't tell him that.

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<v Speaker 3>But in this new world, I have to tell him that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if you smell it, yeah, get off. You can apologize

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<v Speaker 3>after I thought I thought y'all was on something. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like felt like I was I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was gonna get the bad end of that. Yeah, so sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had to go first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because sometimes you niggas don't even realize they could

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<v Speaker 2>have done it until the ship that already happened.

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<v Speaker 3>We used to fight back in the day. We used

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<v Speaker 3>to throw some punches and then somebody would win, somebody

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<v Speaker 3>would lose or be a tie, and then that was

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<v Speaker 3>the end of it. Go home and come back the

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<v Speaker 3>next day. Pa, you actually cool, dog, I really I

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<v Speaker 3>rock with you. You know what I'm saying, Go for

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<v Speaker 3>a fight to be a best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so unpredictable because crashing out is a sports is sports.

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<v Speaker 3>It's part of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is. It's famous, it's part of it's it's famous.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know you you're not gonna crash first on minds.

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<v Speaker 2>And too, Bro, you only got one life, man, it

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<v Speaker 2>ain't even about being you.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to be smarter, bro. Smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Being smart it's coding and being stronger.

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<v Speaker 3>At all times made you better believe it assess. Yeah, smartest,

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<v Speaker 3>this feels like a track, like a track moment. Yeah

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<v Speaker 3>funk that I would be a lot. I'm making it

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<v Speaker 3>home one way or anohing.

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<v Speaker 2>To man, Nigga has been through too much, too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't seen too many movies, documentaries, nigga stories in

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<v Speaker 2>front of my face. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, brother, brother b Chicago kid. I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to say your whole name. I like to you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. I like for your flowers to be

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<v Speaker 3>addressed to you. Appreciate, Thank you, brother, thank thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for your time, thank you for your gift. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, your continued contribution to this, to this

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<v Speaker 3>you universe, which is also inspiring to us. You see

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. And we're home for you. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to make sure we express that to you.

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<v Speaker 3>We're a home for you. This ain't just about you

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<v Speaker 3>being a guest or you know, any any anything superficial

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<v Speaker 3>or anything industry. My brother, you are brother, this is

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<v Speaker 3>home for you. You want to come up here and

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<v Speaker 3>just put your feet up on the table and just

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<v Speaker 3>talk shop and and be do you know I say

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, And be a resident and think. Man, Carl Blanche,

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<v Speaker 3>my brother, you know that. I just want to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure I guess you take that off. You might not

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<v Speaker 3>get that back.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep keep it.

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<v Speaker 1>That you want to take.

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