1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Hi Christy, Hi Will. How are you so good? What 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: are you doing today? I'm going to sit next to 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: you and and and just be really excited. Well I'm 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: me too, because you know why do you know? Why? 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Do you know why? Ask me why why? Because one 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: of my favorite people in the world is coming here 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: today and I see Kevin Conrad. She jumped in. It's 8 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Conrad. I'm you're excited. It's Kevin Conroy, who is, uh, 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, one of my favorite people and has been 10 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Batman for thirty years. That is not an exaggeration thirty years. 11 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: And he's coming to talk to us today. And I 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: hear voices. I can't wait. I hear voices, I hear 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: voices speaking of voices, speaking of voices, voices, And there's 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: no a song that should be our our to our intro. 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: You don't understand. So if you want to see people 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: go insane at a convention, oh boy, Kevin. We will 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: be sitting on a pane and Kevin Conroy will start 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: to sing. I feel blue, Am I Blue? Am I blue? 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: I Like that There was a time was the only 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: one now no sad and lonely one, lonely and so 21 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: sung that as Batman on The Batman, the animated series, 22 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: and so he will hit the first note and you 23 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: will see hundreds of people like go insane to see this. 24 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: And normally he's sitting next to the people who played 25 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: wonder Woman Greenland doesn't matter all eyes, Kevin Conroy, and 26 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: he just owns the stage. It is absolutely, of course 27 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: sitting here with look about love that will of course 28 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: it's Bill loves you so much. He's men. We worked 29 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: together for twenty two When do we start? Five years? 30 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Twenty five years? Seven we started, and it was my 31 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: first ever animated series, and you took me under your 32 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: wing from day one, and you didn't have to. You 33 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: easily could have been one of those actors. But this 34 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: is why we keep talking about the voiceover world compared 35 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: to the on camera world. Because I walked into that room. 36 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: I was as frightened as I've ever been in my life. 37 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: I've never done an animated series, and now I've been 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: cast as Batman and Batman Beyond with Drey Romano directing, Bruce, 39 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: Tim Paul Deaney, Glenn Murakami, all these incredible people involved. Uh, 40 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: and You're sitting there going what am I going to do? 41 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting next to Kevin Conroy, who had help 42 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: Batman forever. He easily could have been who are you kid? 43 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: What are you doing here? But but he was, but 44 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: he didn't. He opened his arms. He taught me how 45 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: to sit behind the microphone. Yeah, I was gonna say, 46 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: how did you had? Did you teach him? Do you 47 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: remember meeting him? There's certain tricks in the sound room 48 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: that when you come from the outside, you don't understand that. 49 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: You know, every noise in the room is being recorded 50 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: and when other people are acting, because Warner Brothers likes 51 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: to get all the cats together, so you're not working 52 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: in a vacuum. You're working. It's like recording a play. 53 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: So all these other people are in the same room together, 54 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: all those mics are live. So every time you turn 55 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: a page it can destroy someone else's performance. Someone can 56 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: give a great take and then someone rustles a page 57 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: over there and their take has to be done again. 58 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: Do you have any memories of anybody ruining a take 59 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: that was like really some of your best work kind 60 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: of thing. Has anyone ruined your perform exactly? Who do 61 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: you hate? Let's really screwed up? No? But then so 62 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: there's an art to turning the page by picking up 63 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: the entire page and moving it over and laying it 64 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: down right and turning it. You do it that way 65 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: without making any noise. But you talked, someone just got 66 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: to show you. It's just basics like that. So Will 67 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: had never been in a sound studio like before, so 68 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: he just needed someone to Did you know his work 69 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: from other other things he was doing, or what was 70 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: your first impression of Will? A great guy? Yeah, who 71 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: I knew came from a very successful show that I 72 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: had never seen. Just not that much of a I'm 73 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: not a TV junker. You also were in our demographic 74 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: if I wasn't, if you're honest, and but I knew 75 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: he'd done a successful show, and I wasn't sure. You know, 76 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: actors or people, there are sometimes if you feed them 77 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: and they're not such a nice ones. There are generous 78 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: ones and selfish one. Yeah, there are people you want 79 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: to work with and they're pricks you just want to avoid. 80 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: Did I just use a bad word? That's okay, Well 81 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: we can bleep it. It's not. No, it's not Those 82 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: kids have heard that by this point. But so when 83 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: you're dealing with someone who came from a successful show. 84 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: You don't know you're going to be dealing with you. 85 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: So I didn't know. I don't know who was he 86 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: going to come in with a lot of attitude, you know? 87 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: And he didn't. He came in ready to work, open, giving, generous. 88 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: You know. I should have known because Andrea Romano, who 89 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: cast the show. She's my sister. By the way, christ Romano, 90 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: I wish I still haven't better. My last name is Romano. Yes, 91 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: I wonder if you're related. Sometime I kind of do. 92 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: I think I've actually messed Romano. Good question. I want 93 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: to I want to work with all these wonderful women. 94 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: A voice has another batman, it's a Reno is a man, 95 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: and I said it was a woman. I'm sorry. Is 96 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: a great guy. But anyway, Um, she always brings people 97 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: together who are just generous, fun, creative, not a lot 98 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: of judgment, not a lot of attitude, just ready to play. 99 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: That's what all the bookings have always been like for 100 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: thirty years. Just no attitude. Yeah, well it is lucky, 101 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: but it's not lucky. It's it's Andrea. Yes, you know 102 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: what I mean. There's more of a science to it, 103 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: I think than just look she knows what to look 104 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: for in people, and she brings wonderful people together. She 105 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: also so here's here's a question for you, because one 106 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: of the things that Andrea I always noticed did was 107 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: she just she cares about the acting. That's all. It's all. 108 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: It's about, just get the best actor you can for 109 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: the role. However, at the same time, she's turned more 110 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: quote unquote on camera actors into voiceover actors than anybody 111 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: else I've ever seen. I've never done a voiceover role before. 112 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: I now consider myself more of a voiceover actor than 113 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: I do an on camera actor. Will Wheaton. You know, 114 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: there's a giant group of us who look at Andrea 115 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: and essentially say, we were one thing in this industry, 116 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 1: and then you brought us into a whole another side, 117 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: and now we consider ourselves a whole different thing. So 118 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: there's a strange justs where yes, she wants to get 119 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: the best actor possible, but then she takes that actor 120 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: and brings them into this world and it's like, now 121 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: you're something else, and there's something really I mean, well, 122 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean you started on stage, didn't You was a 123 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: New York actor, much like you're Juilliard trained as well. 124 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: You know, they rejected me classics. Okay, so I pre 125 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: fools them, Yes, okay, I totally see it. So I 126 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: I was infatuated. My mom used to call it cross training, 127 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: but she was like, yeah, let's do the dancing. Let's 128 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: go to School of American Ballet. I got kicked out 129 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: of there and I went to I went to Performing 130 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Arts school right there by the Fame School. I went 131 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: to Professional Children's School. Anyway, long story short, I auditioned. 132 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: I trained for about a year to be a color 133 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: tour soprano in the pre college Juilliard program. I was 134 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: not accepted into the program. They said I had because 135 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: I was a Broadway kid, so I did a lot 136 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: of Broadway belting. It turns out I had too many 137 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: bad habits for Juilliard. Really, but my god, is Juilliard 138 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: amazing And anyone that's done Juilliard training has a lot 139 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: of respect. It's it's it's grueling. I mean it's it's 140 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: it's a grueling experience for somebody who doesn't know anything 141 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: about Juilliard. Is it a four year program, is it 142 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: a two year It can be many things. There's the 143 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: pre college. There are a lot of different programs you 144 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: can do what you did the four years you did 145 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 1: four you I was seventeen, I'd left high school early. 146 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: I was the youngest one in the school when I 147 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: went in, but I was six too, and I had 148 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: a deep voice. Yeah, no one really thought about it, 149 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, because I just fit right in. But um, 150 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: so I really wanted he's hit looking guy too, if 151 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: for honest, Oh come on, forget about forget about how 152 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: you're still a hugely attractive man. Show me pictures of 153 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: himself back in the day. I think he's dashing. It 154 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: was like, it was incredible. I mean, you're, let's be honest, 155 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: he's pretty damn good looking at I'm coming back here. 156 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: But it's like this company, but the whole package when 157 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: it comes to especially back in the day, what they're 158 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: what you're looking for as an actor, I mean, commanding 159 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: the presence of the talent. I mean. But so I 160 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: went for the four year program because I wanted to 161 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: get a b f A. Which involved doing academics on 162 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: the side. Oh where did you do? The academy on 163 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: the fourth floor, So Juilliard, and they had special teachers 164 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: who would come in and be you know, you're you're 165 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: dealing with people in Essay, BA School of Americans, the 166 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: American Opera Center. I mean, all these incredibly you know, 167 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: stars of their generation with dance and singing and acting. 168 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: You know, Kevin Klein's in your regular slus that kind 169 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: of stuff. And you're talking about you know, Dickens or something. 170 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: You're studying English literature with people who are really thinking 171 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: about what they're going to have to perform that night. 172 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: You know, what they're going to present my experience. I mean, 173 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: it's all about performance. It's all performance oriented. So these 174 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: academic classes were such an afterthought. They were they were 175 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: kind of a joke. Yeah, I understandably that everyone went 176 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: to just to you know, get the basic training. So 177 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: if you get a f A because you were spending 178 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, twelve fourteen, sixteen hours a day in performing fencing, dance, movement, voice, diction, 179 00:09:54,120 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: acting classes, poetry classes, French mass. For e to one 180 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: of those classes, you have to perform. It's all performance based. 181 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: So you're doing a French mass class and I you 182 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: know defense, Oh my gosh, did you know that? I 183 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: did not know. I was trained by B. H. Barry. 184 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: The you know, there's I don't know. He said, no, 185 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: he's um, he's like the stage fighting theater stage fighting guy, 186 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: a British, wonderful stage fighting. But Pierre Lefevre taught me 187 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: French map. Now see that in that name. And I 188 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: was in that class with Robin Williams. So my presentation, 189 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: I did a scene from Peter Pan, the fight between 190 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: Captain Hook and Peter Pan as the characters, and we 191 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: staged a fight. And who did I do with Harriet? Harris? 192 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: Harriet were wonderful character actors? Wait were you Peter? Okay, 193 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: you are the bad guy because of his height and 194 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: my voice. But you present these pieces and you know 195 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: it takes weeks to work on these things and present 196 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: them and then get judged by torn down. Oh the 197 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: judgment was. But then in poetry class you're doing you know, 198 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: you're preparing poetry to to have judged, and it's it's grueling. 199 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: It's a grueling experience. So you don't have time to 200 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: prepare academics. So I'm actually really curious about this because 201 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: in speaking to somebody who's gone to Juilliard, I don't 202 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: think I really have had that interaction. Did you want 203 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: to leave at any point just to do traditional industry work? 204 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: Or did anyone else want to just stop the grueling? 205 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: That's such a good question. I was scared. I always 206 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: wondered if I should leave and just start acting. Okay, 207 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't you learn more by just doing? Because the first 208 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: two years are really the training there. The second two 209 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: years are all performance based people application of what you've learned. 210 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: But the thought of swimming in the deep pool at 211 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: the age of eighteen nineteen, it scared me. I wanted 212 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: to stay in the school. Now did you go to 213 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: become an actor? Did you go to become a singer? 214 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: Did you go to be collected? It was an actor? Okay, 215 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Now there's one thing, So going back a little bit 216 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: earlier in your life, there's one thing that I'm the 217 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: only one at this table that knows, which is all 218 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: three of us are from Connecticut. Are you from CONNECTICUTT? 219 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: Are you from CONNECTICUTT? Of course I'm from Say I 220 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: was doing? I was doing from Hartford, I'm from I 221 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: was born in Harvard. I'm from from a town in Avon, 222 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: And you were from Milford. Where are you from? West Pole? 223 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: Fancy guy? Three? Kid? Now, for anybody doesn't Connecticut, we 224 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: are from three different sides of Connecticut and that's still 225 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 1: a half hour away from each other. Um, what what 226 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: kind of Connecticut's are we all from? What? What kind 227 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: of Connecticut is Avon? Or was it? Avon? Connecticut? Is 228 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: exactly as it sounds. It was. It was farmland, it 229 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: was I mean, it was a small town, but it 230 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: was upper middle class and you know, very hoity toity 231 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: kind of people. And we were not that family, but 232 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean there were kids in high school that drove 233 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: the BMW's and all that kind of stuff. Again, not 234 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: our family, but that's what it was like. So it 235 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: was what you would expect a place that sounds like Avon, 236 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: Connecticut would be any did Yeah, there were the Avon 237 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: country clubs. And again I went to a public high school. 238 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: So I went to Avon High I because I had to. 239 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: I was swimming in the deep end. I never was trained. 240 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: So I started acting at a very young age. And 241 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: I would take the bus. It was three hours from 242 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Farmington to New York, uh, and I would do that 243 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: once or twice a week for auditions to be told. 244 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: You'd walk in there, you go, no, you don't have 245 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: red hair, and you go thank you. When you turn around, 246 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: your walk out and at twelve, I was walking around 247 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: New York City and in the eighties and the bus 248 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: would drop you off of Port Authority. My manager was 249 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be me there. Sometimes he did, sometimes he didn't. 250 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: I would walk to my audition and it's I mean, 251 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: there's there was no better way to grow up. I 252 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: never had a problem. Uh, nobody ever accosted me. I 253 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: knew the homeless people in Port Authority by name. Where 254 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: I would literally get off the bus and somebody go, 255 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: I break a leg today, will and I go, thanks, Harvey, 256 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: And I'd walk through the you know, it was It 257 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: was a great experience for me. It really made me. 258 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: But you know, and then I did my first show 259 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: in New York and at fifty Unit Television Studio at 260 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: fifty five and ninth. What was your first show? Don't 261 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: just sit there on Nicola both who else? I know 262 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: that show? That was my first one, that was nine. 263 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: But the idea of being trained to do it I 264 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: never did, And I think I suffered because of that. 265 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if you had to go back and 266 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: do it again, knowing your success, would you just jump 267 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: into the deep end or would you go back to 268 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: Juilliard again? No? I. I learned an awful lot. That's 269 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: what I was. I was emotionally very immature at seventeen. 270 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: I had a lot to learn. The city was overwhelming. 271 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: Everything about the experience was overwhelming. My first job in 272 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: the city was as a mailman, as a mail carrier, 273 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: really delivering the mail for a private mail service. When 274 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: I was seventeen, on a bike walking, how are you 275 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: doing it? I had a card pushed card. It was 276 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: one of those guys on Sixth Avenue, see pushing, Yeah, 277 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: did you have your beat? Like the like the wow. 278 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: It was like a private business mail service. It was 279 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: before FedEx and and um, so they would all subscribe 280 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: to this airline mail service. Basically, the mail room was 281 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: underneath Grand Central. So you come in. I come in 282 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: on the morning train from Connecticut at like five am 283 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: and go to the mail room and start sorting all 284 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: the mail. And all the guys in there were wonderful. 285 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: They were all these New York tough, blue collar young men, 286 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: all men, real characters like a sitcom. And I went 287 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: to go to my Juilliard audition from that mail room 288 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: and they were so you know. God. They used to 289 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: call me Shakespeare because I was always working on Shakespeare, 290 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: and I was working on my pieces and stuff. They go, 291 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: go for Shakespeare, go for it. You gotta get in there. 292 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: And the day I got my acceptance, they all like 293 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: picked me up in the air and they carried me 294 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: out and they got me drunk ish. It was such 295 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: a wonderful New York moment. They just adopted this kid, 296 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: you know. And so that was a job that you 297 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: commuted to, like before you heard about Juilliard. So you 298 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: were kind of already going into New York. Interesting. I 299 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: was gonna have to get a scholarship to go, so 300 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: I had to save up as much money as I could. 301 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's amazing. Now what did you want to do? 302 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: You got to pick your career from Juilliard. You could 303 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: be a film star, you could be a TV star, 304 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: you could be on Broadway. What what would you do? 305 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: You're both much younger than me. It was different in 306 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: the seventies, right, There was still a theater that you 307 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: could make a living in. Really, yeah, I mean you 308 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: could train to be a classical actor. Used to go 309 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: to the American Shakespeare Festival Stratford, Connectquet. See the plays there. 310 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: I saw brilliant, aren't they didn't it burn down recently? 311 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god. But you would see these actors who 312 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: did these amazing performances, and we're making a wonderful living 313 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: at the theater. And that doesn't exist anymore anymore. I mean, 314 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: you have to supplement your income with other things. You 315 00:16:52,360 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: have to Yes, sponsored content, sponsor. The section of Catacandra 316 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: has been brought to you by m X. Now. I 317 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: hate to keep bringing integrating, but I'm just so impressed 318 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: by you that I'm trying to, like, like I need 319 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: to tell you certain things, so like, because we're all 320 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: from Connecticut, right, the worst audition I've ever had in 321 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: my life was for that Stratford Shakespeare. I was always 322 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: this Disney kid. I did a bunch of Disney shows 323 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: growing up, and but I did actually start in theater 324 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: like I was in was Mary Fagan Original Mary Fagan 325 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: and parade Um with Jason Robert Brown and hell Prince 326 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: and all that. And I was just a theater kid. 327 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: And then Disney kind of plucked me into l A 328 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: and then I sort of did a wonderful production. I was, yes, 329 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: the one that closed got closed down from Live In. 330 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah that was fantastic, thank you. Yeah, it was amazing 331 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: to be a part of that. So theater was how 332 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: I started and going back and forth as a kid 333 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: from Connecticut to New York. So that's why I really 334 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: resonate with that part of your story. But I will 335 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: also say worst choice of my life was thinking that 336 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: I could just try to be auditioning for Romeo and Chew. 337 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: Now I can do. I was like, all of a sudden, 338 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: my Mom's like, go for it. I was like, okay, 339 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: I said, literally standing there like like this, just terrified. 340 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't get through one like Stanza or whatever it was. 341 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: It just just bombed. Shakespeare's not for me. I leave 342 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: it to Well. I mean, I think that brings brings 343 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: it to kind of an interesting point in the conversation 344 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: where we're going to get into v O because it's 345 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: about v O. But it seems like acting itself has 346 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: changed where there doesn't seem to be the discipline that 347 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: there once was. There isn't the study of acting as 348 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: a craft as much anymore. And it's more I've got talent, 349 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: it's natural, just hire me to be myself and arsenalitying 350 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: that more. Do you see that more and more with 351 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: the generations coming up? Where it's like, which is why 352 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: it seems like everything we're watching, whether it's television or film, 353 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: everybody's British because they still study the craft of acting, 354 00:18:55,240 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: whereas we're more about being celebrities, they're still about being actors. Yeah. 355 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: Acting is the art of communication, right, It's it's communicating, 356 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: it's telling stories. It's as old as the caveman. It's 357 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: telling stories and elevating it to an art form. And 358 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: the more intimate you can make that story, the more personal, 359 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: the more at risk you can make it for you, 360 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: the more compelling it is. People can't take their eyes 361 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: off of you. If you're risking something, if you're really 362 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: exposing who you are, if you're really exposing who you are, 363 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: if you're taking if you're if you're being dangerous, that 364 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: makes it riveting. People have taken that to mean I'm 365 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: just going to be myself in whatever role I play, 366 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: it's about me, rather than taking those personal experiences, those 367 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: personal emotions, that raw emotion and bringing it to the character. Okay, 368 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Well, don't you think creating 369 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: a character? American actors don't do that so much anymore, 370 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: do you sound Meryl? Does there are certain actors who 371 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: but for the most part it's the British actress who 372 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: do that. I really love Jessica Chastain. I think she's 373 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: isn't she Julie. No, there's a group that does it, 374 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: but there's also I think one of the things that 375 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: it shows about, especially the American society right now, is 376 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: there's kind of a pervasive narcissism kind of that is, 377 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: you know, it's about everything's about me. It's all about me. 378 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: Whether it is I call it a narcissistic purgatory, well, 379 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: there you go, but it is so when you're making 380 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: everything about you, then the idea that you don't want 381 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: to watch me is so strange. It's alien. Why would 382 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: you not want to watch me just being me? So 383 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: I don't have to study or do anything because just 384 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: me is so amazing And I think you don't see 385 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: that in some of the foreign actors. Um Now the 386 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: question becomes, then bringing it back to what we do here, 387 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: the question becomes, how do you get that same level 388 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: of vulnerability that you've talked about that you need to 389 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: really kind of established to make something compelling When all 390 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: you have to work with is your voice. I find 391 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: it easier when all you have to work with is 392 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: your voice, because you don't have to accommodate the camera, 393 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You don't have that whole 394 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: crew standing around you off off camera. You don't have 395 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: the boom man and the lighting guy and the makeup 396 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: person and the camera coming in. Well, it's you and 397 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: the microphone. So it's more intimate. It's so intimate. It's 398 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: it's more of an internal dialogue that that I have 399 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: with the character. So in a booth, I can really 400 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: let go, whereas on camera there's so much more that 401 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: you have to accommodate. I love that choice of words. Yeah, 402 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: So I find it very liberating. I find a sound 403 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: a sound room to be really liberating. It is a 404 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: very peaceful place. It is. It's but it's so strange 405 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: because one of the best overall scenes I've ever seen 406 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: done in a recording room. You and I were doing 407 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: the film Batman Beyond Return of the Joker, which was 408 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: a wonderful film, and I'm sitting in between you and 409 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: Mark Hamill for a week. I just sat there, going, 410 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: just keep your mouth shut or you're gonna get fired 411 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: because you don't belong here. And you never looked at 412 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: each other because you can't. You're staring at the microphone. 413 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: And yet the scene between you and Mark where he's 414 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: being so familiar with her head, oh batsy and just 415 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: being so hybrus and it's so unbelievable. And then you know, 416 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: I've you ever seen Mark Camill work. For everybody out 417 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: there who hasn't, he's devouring the microphone, he's an inch away, 418 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: and he's just so passionate, shakes like a shakes Barian actor, 419 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: he spits a lot. And then there's you who's taken 420 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: this character that is now in his late eighties at 421 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: this point, so you're trying to have that same kind 422 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: of verve that you had when the first time the 423 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Joker and Batman faced off, but it's not there anymore. 424 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: So there's that sense of the aged as well, and 425 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: the two of you together, and I just sat back 426 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: just going, I don't this, I don't belong here. So 427 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: there's that sense of it's still being a stage play 428 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: in voiceover that sometimes you don't get in television or 429 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: on film. And it's so strange because in some ways 430 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: you're so much more disconnected from your fellow actor and 431 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: that you're not making eye contact, and yet just through 432 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: the microphone there is that familiarity. It's so strange. I 433 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: don't I don't even know how to describe it. It's 434 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: just so odd. It is interesting because you're you're living 435 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: through your voice and you're creating the character, and you're 436 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: creating the drama, and you're creating, uh, the tension, and 437 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: the other actor is doing the same thing. But you're 438 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: not even looking at each other, and there's this intimacy 439 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: that develops, and it's only through the voice. It's really fascinating. 440 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: It's so strange when you see we're gonna get into 441 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: the fact that you are the only correct answer to 442 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: who's the best Batman? We're going to get into that 443 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: to everybody, it's true, but just to you and to me, 444 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: if you and no, no, no, I'm saying who's the 445 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: best Batman? I always say he is or I am. 446 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: That's is the only answer to those things. Um, I 447 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: thought it was you, Now I think it's No. It's 448 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: always it. He's the only correct. When you look at 449 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: especially a Bruce tim drawing of Batman or Bruce Wayne, 450 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: do you see yourself some hard hitting questions, No, you 451 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: don't really see myself you don't I really see the character. Okay, 452 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: there's not a little bit of Kevin in there now, 453 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe the jaw. So then that's one 454 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: of my questions. Let's we were do you see yourself? 455 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: And Ron? Yes, you do? I do? I do? When 456 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: I if, I if because it's funny. It's one of 457 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: the ways that I know I'm not doing the character 458 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: properly is if I can see the drawing or watch 459 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: the show and I don't see myself. Okay. There's been 460 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: several characters I've done where I'm like, I'm not hitting 461 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: it because when I see it, I don't see me. 462 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: I know what you mean. Certain things where I can 463 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: see myself. Ron is one of them. Terry more than 464 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: Batman was one of them. But like when I did 465 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy the first episodes, my register was 466 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: too high for the animation and I didn't see myself 467 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: in the character, and it was weird. It was off 468 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: putting to me. But going back to Connecticut, Oh, yes, 469 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: this thing I want to bring you to your childhood. 470 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's to well. No, for one specific reason, 471 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: did you watch any animation, any cartoon. It wasn't even 472 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: animation to us. So it was just cartoons growing up. 473 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: I had never well, there wasn't a Batman cartoon. There 474 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: was Batman comics though. Comics, yea, I watched the Jetsons, 475 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean all the stuff from the sixties. Sure, that 476 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: was what I want. But were you a cartoon fan. 477 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: We were allowed a certain amount of TV. It was 478 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: a pretty strict house. But um, but yeah, I watched 479 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: the flint Stones and the Jetsons and but I had 480 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: no exposure to comic books. We didn't have comic books. 481 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: When when I went into audition for for Batman, Bruce 482 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: Tim said, what's your knowledge of Batman? And I said, well, 483 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: I know the Adam West Show. And he said, no, no, no, 484 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: that's not what we're doing. He said, we love Adam, 485 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: but that's not what we're doing. He said, didn't you 486 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: every comic books when you're a kid, the Batman's I said, well, no, 487 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: I didn't. We didn't have comic books. He said, what 488 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: kind of childhood did you have? Oh man, that too. 489 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: So you can hear what I'm saying. You can you 490 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: can hear. And so he is the one who introduced me. 491 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: He said, well, it's you know, his parents were murdered 492 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: in front of him as a child, and in Crime Alley, 493 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: he's spent his life avenging their deaths. He's become this 494 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: dual personality. He's a public face and a private face, 495 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: and he's, uh, you know, he's he's living too avenged 496 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: and to to bring justice to the world. And I said, well, 497 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: you're telling your kind of telling the Hamlet story again, 498 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: it's very similar. And he said, well, no one's made 499 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: that analogy. So I said, well, let me just use 500 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: my imagination, and so I just put myself in that 501 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: scene in Crimes in Crime Alley. Had you already been 502 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: in the voiceover world or the animation? Okay, this is 503 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: the first edition I ever went in on for a 504 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: voice over. And you were a little reluctant. Were you reluctant? Well, 505 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: I I rectant. Well, because actors, you know what it's like. 506 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: You go on twenty auditions and you don't get them, 507 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: so you could become kind of casual about them. You 508 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: think I really want to go to this one today? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 509 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't really want to go to this Well. Also, 510 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to speak to the fact that I had 511 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: done a lot of indie I had done like this 512 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: really high art Broadway show and we were paid off 513 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: to go like to my my mom and I went 514 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: to pilot season with the money because we closed early, right, 515 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: and I ended up working getting a Disney job, and 516 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: that was it. I just work work, work for Disney 517 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: for my whole teen years. But prior to that, I didn't. 518 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: I did a Woody Allen movie. I did a lot 519 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: of more like indie New York stuff. And so actually 520 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to mention her name, but because she knows, 521 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: it's okay now. But it's just a chek who is 522 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: an amazing voice actress. And she was a good friend 523 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: of mine and is still and I love her so much. 524 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: And she was like, yere, you want to work for Disney. 525 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like, yeah, why not? 526 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: She said, okay, you know, and I was that's my guest, Okay, 527 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: it's okay, it's I haven't okay to chic On on 528 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: a good day. But yeah, I remember having to make 529 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: that choice and that leap into the unknown of something 530 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: that was sort of wildly different than the training and 531 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: experience that I had, you know, on the East Coast 532 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: and the whole thing. Yeah, I was totally going to 533 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: blow it off because I thought, there's no way this 534 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: is going to happen. Why am I bothering to go 535 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: this ninety one? It was nine okay, because we're an 536 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: into production. I was going to blow it off because 537 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, this is this is this is 538 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a complete waste of time. Put my energy 539 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: into preparing the audition for tomorrow, that is for a 540 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: pilot or something, you know what I mean? Yeah, sure, 541 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: I think else, you know, I'll just go what's the 542 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: worst that can happen. I can make a fool of myself, 543 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: big deal. So it was a totally random audition that 544 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: I did not think was going to lead to anything. 545 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: But then as I started putting my imagination into the 546 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: character in the booth and putting myself into that that 547 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: that boy in that alley and what would happen to 548 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: him and how he would compensate in life, and then 549 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: I just my voice went to this place and this 550 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: I started using this sound that I had never used before. 551 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: It just came out, and they hired me on the spot. 552 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: That's exactly what we want. Of course, of course that's 553 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: what I mean. But it was totally improvised on the spot. No, no, yeah, no, 554 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean to the point where I remember my dad. 555 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: We were doing Beyond at the time, and something had 556 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: happened where we were in New York. My father and 557 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: I and you were in New York at the time, 558 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: and we were waiting in the room to record something, 559 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: and you were walking down the hallway and you said 560 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: hello to somebody and you said in your voice, like, hey, Jack, 561 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: how you doing? And my dad went, who is that? 562 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: Because that voice? You have that voice, and it was 563 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: like that, that's Kevin, that's Kevin. So again we've talked 564 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: about this first audition ever for voiceover is Batman. It 565 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: is completely Shakespearean when you actually think about the Batman 566 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: character is totally Shakespearean characters. He has no superpowers, he 567 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: can't fly, he can't see through walls. He's a tragic hero. 568 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: He is Arresties, he is Achilles, he is Edgar in lear. 569 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's so many of the roles that I 570 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: had played, and so I just approached it that way. 571 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: So now I rewatched on literally on Sunday on the 572 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: plane home. I was just in Connecticut and I'm flying home. 573 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: It was negative eight thousand degrees Um. Batman the animated 574 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 1: series was just is now on all the day, and 575 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm starting over, and I went right 576 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: to the pilot and the first line of the first 577 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: episode of the first Batman series is what was that? 578 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: And wasn't that you two helicopter? That was was the 579 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: coolest thing. That was the coolest thing in the world. 580 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: So h I'm watching. And obviously the animation has changed 581 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: from that first episode quite a bit, the stories instantly 582 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: compelling and now getting back into the world of v O. Batman. 583 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: The animated series changed the whole ballgame for animation all 584 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: the way around, from the way they recorded it to 585 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: the way they animated it, to the way they produced it, 586 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: to the way it was it was promoted, to the 587 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: way it was scored full symphony score. It was. They 588 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: threw money at that show, which still show. It still shows. 589 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: It's why it still looks so rich and so fresh 590 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: and compelling, and young people still get turned onto it. 591 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: I get approached the comic cons all the time by people, 592 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: Oh I just started watching it. So cool. His fans too, 593 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: it isn't They all go, oh man, you're here as 594 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Um And I'm like, hey, thanks, he's over there 595 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: in the line, or I will get this a lot. 596 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: This is the best one. Like I love Batman Beyond. 597 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: Can you sign this for me please? Like yeah, like 598 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: it's really great that you came over there, Like yeah, 599 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: Kevin's line was too long. I get that a lot too. 600 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: Kevin's lines too long? Like, well, it's nice to me. 601 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: Did you do voices at all growing up? Did you 602 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: did you do voices of your own things that you 603 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: read or or have imaginary friends that you spoke to 604 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: in different voices, any of that stuff. I had imaginary friends. Okay, 605 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: sounds so weird. Have you seen the title of the ship? 606 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: You're in a safe space? Come on, now we have 607 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: I actually grew up in Long Island. We moved to 608 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: Westport when I was about eleven, and when I was 609 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: it was a very working class community and there were 610 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: a couple of trees in the backyard dogwood trees, and 611 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: when the leaves fell, I would get very, very very upset, 612 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: and my mother caught me outside on a chair with 613 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: tape putting the leaves back on the tree. That was 614 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: the kind of affection that I had to these trees. 615 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: I was trying to heal them as I couldn't hear 616 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: how what's going on? And then she watched me and 617 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: she saw me starting to talk and then stop and listen. 618 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: And I was having a conversation with the tree with 619 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: the trees. That's amazing. So my first imaginary friends were 620 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: the two trees in the backyard. Do you remember what 621 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: the conversation. I don't know what their names were, or 622 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know the personas that I put 623 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: into them. She said I would go out and have dialogue. 624 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: She said she'd watch me, and she thought, I hope 625 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with this child. I think that's amazing. 626 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: So you gave boys, you voiced, gave voices to the 627 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: earth essentially, but it was the loss of the leaves 628 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: that that moved me emotionally to them. Then I developed 629 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: this relationship with them. Those are my first voices. That's beautiful. 630 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: Do you still love trees? Oh? I'm a real outdoor person. 631 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: You are being outside. So I was trying to think 632 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: you might have thought of this already, because I can't 633 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: of literally other than maybe a talk show host, any 634 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: other actor in history who has played a role as 635 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: long as you have. And I can't think of anyone. 636 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: You've been Batman now in many iterations for thirty years? 637 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: Have have the Simpsons been on longer? Maybe? Maybe? Okay, 638 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: so then they might have voice actors, they might have 639 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: may be essentially but you right, it's up there. But 640 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: you'd be one of a handful of actors in history 641 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: that have played a single character for as long as 642 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: you have. And what a character to play, you think, 643 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: I mean, so rich, there's so much always defined there. 644 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: You never get tired of playing him. Oh that's wonderful 645 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: to hear. Oh you don't. It's just he's so damaged. Yeah, 646 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: and that's what it compels people to him, because we're 647 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: all damaged, and people read that into Batman. They relate 648 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: that to Batman. It's his humanity, it's his flaws. That's 649 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: what attracts people. They really are. People think of the 650 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: heroic and the bigger I am, and they think of 651 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: that as Batman. But it's really the flaws in him, 652 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: I think that really draw people in. It's also what's 653 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: recurring in any iteration of Batman, even live action that 654 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: we're seeing, like with the Robert Pattinson one that's recently 655 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: coming in, Like everyone's their own Batman, but they're all 656 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: damaged and that's what anchors their performance. But then there's 657 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: there's also something very interesting. I remember Bruce tim saying 658 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: something to me that was we were talking about just 659 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: the character Batman in general, and the thing that he 660 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: told me that it was very interesting. As you said, 661 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: bat there always needs to be a Batman for everyone. 662 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: So he said, when the movies got very dark, the cartoons, 663 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: the animated series got very light, so it was like 664 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: Braven the Bold came out and you saw it was 665 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: more of a comedy side of Batman because the film's 666 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: got very dark. And then he said, when the film's 667 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 1: got very like like like the Schwarzenegger ones, we were 668 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: doing Beyond and Batman the animated series. So he said, 669 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: Batman always needs to exist for everybody, so a five 670 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: year old can find their Batman and a year old 671 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: can find their Batman. And I thought there was something 672 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: very interesting about that as well, where it's just that 673 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: character that has so many levels where we both know 674 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: Dietrich bad very well, who came and sat down in 675 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: front of the microphone and did it completely different, I mean, 676 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: such a different Batman than than you you ever did. 677 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: And one wasn't better or worse. There were just different, 678 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: just different Batman Adam West, who was you know, God 679 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: rest him? We were I know you knew Adam West 680 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: pretty well, right, Yeah, it was a funny scene. Lived 681 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: in Utah and I had been at some comic con 682 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: and I was changing planes at Salt Lake City Airport 683 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: and Adam was waiting for a plane. That's all like 684 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: they airport. We saw each other and I was like Adam, 685 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: and he went Kevin. So we sat down and we're 686 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: talking to each other and people started noticing that's Batman 687 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: and Batman. So all the camera phones came out and 688 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: people started taking pictures. There was a Batman convention at 689 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: Salt Lake Airport. But I mean that because again, two 690 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: completely different versions, wildly unbelievable, so strange. Yeah, he's a 691 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: really nice, really nice man. He wasn't very nice. So 692 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: then you don't ever feel territorial over Batman as a whole, 693 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: do you know? Not at all? It's a you don't 694 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: get to own the character. You get to sort of 695 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: rent him for a while, You get to inhabit him 696 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: for a while, um, and then someone else comes. You know, 697 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: you don't have been pretty close to owning the camera, 698 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: love doing it, I love well yeah, but I mean 699 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: and I have a wonderful relationship with the audience and 700 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: the fans through the character. But all of us other 701 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: Batman are pretty much playing for a second. I think 702 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: we all know that. Oh my gosh, that takes such 703 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: like but it's true. I mean, but it's true. It's 704 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,479 Speaker 1: there's there's times where you just go, I mean again. 705 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: People always ask me, all right, Michael Keaton, Christian Bale, 706 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: who's your Batman? And I always Kevin Conroy's Batman. Like 707 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, anybody who's in conect who knows anything about 708 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: animation or any or this world or is truly a 709 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: Batman fan. This is how I look at it, because 710 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: you get a lot of people that are Batman fan 711 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: fans when it comes to like the films, like but 712 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: truly and all around Batman fan when you're reading the 713 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: comic book, whose voices in your head? Kevin's voices in 714 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: your head? And I think, don't you hear that from 715 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: most of the fans that say there, when I read anything, 716 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: when I do anything, it's your voice. Well, I hear 717 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: that from the fans because they're talking to me and 718 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: They're not going to come to me and say, oh 719 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: I hear you know you to me and say I 720 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: hear Kevin Conroy, You're pretty good. But I hear Kevin Connor. 721 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: Maybe they know how much you love him. This is 722 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: like I think it's I mean, of course, what we've 723 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: talked about that any times to where the you know, 724 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: the Bruce and Terry relationship was was kind of similar 725 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: to yours and mind it was to actually doing the show. Um, 726 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: but it was so funny you mentioned the Simpsons. Okay, 727 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: so I couldn't think of another actor that has played 728 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: a single role owned a role for thirty years. Yeah, unusual, Yeah, epic, 729 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, it's epic. So we are going to 730 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: get into and then the Games came along. Well okay, 731 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: so that's what actually games, we were just going to 732 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: jumpe just amazing. Now, how is that difference in recording? 733 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. How please, It's like 734 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: it's like root Canal. It is so different because you 735 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 1: know that when you do a recording in the studio 736 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: with the other actors, especially for Warner Brothers, everybody's there 737 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: together and it's like doing a radio play. Yeah, you're 738 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: all interacting you. You have the other actor feeding you. 739 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: You have Mark Hamill feeding you a line. I mean, 740 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: how can you not feed well in response? You know 741 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: what I mean? He just brings it out of you. 742 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: But when you go into do games, everything's got to 743 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: be on its own track because of the way the 744 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: games are played, everything is on their own algorithm, you know. 745 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: So they can't do people together, so everything is isolated. 746 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: So you're in a room alone, a soundproof room, and 747 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: you're creating the situation of the character, the character, the 748 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: what what does he want? What is he after? What's 749 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: just happened? Where are you going? And then keeping the 750 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: voice alive, line by line by line by line by line, 751 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: and they do them all at one line at a time, 752 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: so it's totally different. Hundreds of cues, thousands of cues, 753 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: thirty seven thousand lines come on in Arkham Night, the 754 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: third of the Arkham series, thirty seven thousand lines, because 755 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: depending on how the game's play, take thousands of different things. 756 00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: There two years, four hours at a time alone in 757 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: a booth. You come out and you're just sweating, and 758 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: then they give you an hour for lunch, and then 759 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: you go in four hours more and you're just keeping 760 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: just keeping the drama alive in your head and keeping 761 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: it straight. What's happened to him? Now? Where is he going? 762 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: Did he just get in a fight? Is he? You know? 763 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: All that stuff you're keeping alive in your own head, 764 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: and it's it's exhausting. By the end of the day, 765 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: you're just depleted. You're depleted and you're exhausted. And then 766 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: they do that for about a week and then you 767 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: get a few weeks off while they're writing more stuff 768 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: than they bring you in for another week. What's really 769 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: tough work? People, I think assume that just because you're 770 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: talking into a microphone that it's not a hard work. Yeah, 771 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: you always hear that. Well, you're a voice over, you 772 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 1: can come in your pajamas. It's like, yeah, that's somebody 773 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: who's never actually done the work. The building games is 774 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: really hard work? Is there? When you prefer act from 775 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: an acting standpoint? Arkham Knight, the third of the Arkham trilogy, 776 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: I think is that one with the thirty seven thousand 777 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: because the end of it, I don't want to I'm 778 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: not going to give away share. But Batman goes through 779 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: this this transition, this this this Catharsis that is was 780 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: so challenging as an actor to do. You know, you 781 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: like to be challenged by things like that, and I 782 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: was so proud of the way it it came out. 783 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: I was really really happy with that one. So I 784 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever asked you this and you can't 785 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: say me, because it's obviously the answer you would give, 786 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: being that it's our podcast and you can't say you. 787 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:31,479 Speaker 1: Who's your favorite Batman? Oh man, I'm not sure if ever, 788 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: I can't say you can't. You can't say you, and 789 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: you can't you can't see me either? Course would who 790 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 1: would I? But I I thought it was really crazy 791 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 1: for Warner Brothers not to give the franchise to one person, 792 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 1: the on camera franchise, because traditionally that's what always happened. 793 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, you have one person play a character, do 794 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 1: you know, like a James Bond, kind of like James 795 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: Bonner or Peter Sellers, you know, Clusseau, and there'll be 796 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: certain you know, the character would just do that franchise. 797 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: So when Michael Keaton did the first of the Batman movies, 798 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: I thought, well, he's nailed it, He's got it, and 799 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: he's going to get the whole franchise because I love 800 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: him as an actor. He's a brilliant, such an amazing Yeah, 801 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: he's one of my favorites ever really, and so I 802 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: think it's impossible to pick one because they're all so different. 803 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: When I started seeing the different characters, I mean, Ben 804 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: Affleck is fantastic. He's fantastic and good. It was the 805 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: best part of Batman Versus Superman. Christian Bale is a 806 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,439 Speaker 1: little sketchy with his Batman voice, but as Bruce Wayne great, 807 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne phenomenal, Bruayne phenomenal. So everybody brings something different 808 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 1: than it's I realized after a while why they did that. 809 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: It makes it makes it so interesting to see what 810 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: different actors bring. But to be honest, Michael Keaton, I 811 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: thing I had to pick one down would now? Don't 812 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: you think that Batman the animated series is partially responsible 813 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: for actors realizing that Batman and Bruce Wayne are two 814 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: different characters. Well certainly that they should have two different 815 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: voices and two different personas. That hadn't been done before. 816 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 1: And I asked Bruce if I could do that, because 817 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: I said, wait a minute, because I was so new 818 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: to all this I said, he's he's the richest man 819 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: in Gotham. He's the most desirable bachelor. He owns half 820 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: the city and he puts on a mask and no 821 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: one knows it's him. I said, seriously, that's that's stretching credulity. 822 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: That's to a ridiculous point. I said, can I, you know, 823 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: change the voice up a little bit, And so we 824 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: decided my my image was of a playboy sophisticated, almost 825 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: a David Niven kind of character. That's what I was visualizing. 826 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: And it just was a lighter register of my own voice. 827 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: It was just slightly lighter and a little more. I 828 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: used a lot of irony, a lot of humor. I 829 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: went a lot for the humor, but you definitely it 830 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: was it was Batman and Bruce Wayne were two different people, 831 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 1: and that was never I don't think that had ever 832 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: really been done before, explored to that extent as it 833 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: had in Batman the Animals. They decided over time to 834 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: have me tone it down because when the artwork came back, 835 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: the show was so dark. It was all painted on black. 836 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: It was the first time the show had been painted 837 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,479 Speaker 1: on a black so it was very dark, and that's 838 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: the music was so dramatic and the stories were so complicated. 839 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: They said, you know, when you go to that light, 840 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: ironic voice, it's it's a little too jarring. So they 841 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: had to tone it down. They liked the distinction, but 842 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: they just wanted it less less. So so actually I'm 843 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: back and re recorded the first few episodes. Really, there 844 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: is quite a harmony involved in the like you're saying this, 845 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 1: the music mixed with the actual animation to the voices. 846 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: It kind of is all synergistic. Really, like if the 847 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: characters that he and I were blessed to play, our 848 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: characters were Kim and Ron. We kind of massaged it 849 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: over the first season of Trying to Find so that 850 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, when we you've mentioned that, like sometimes if 851 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: you watch some of your work, you're like, oh, I 852 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: didn't do that right, I'm taking I'm taking myself out 853 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: of that character. It's not blending well, like he can't 854 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: see himself in that character, and it's true, and it's 855 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: it's just it's one of those things where I don't 856 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: know I always thought about because the exact opposite thing 857 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: happened to me when I was doing Beyond, where they 858 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: pulled back my gravel, where Andrea would constantly say, you're 859 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: getting too gravelly into our should stay to piraty with 860 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 1: the with the Batman voice, because with Terry it was 861 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: as a seventeen year old kid when he went and 862 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: put on the cowl, going hey stop, no, nobody was 863 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: going to be afraid of him. So it was interesting 864 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: that we mirrored ourselves in that aspect as well, where 865 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: they pulled you back from the higher register and they 866 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: pulled me back from the lower register, which I thought 867 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: was was kind of fun. But again, I think anybody 868 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: who knows animation and or like's animation knows that Batman 869 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: the animated series changed the whole ballgame. Oh definitely. I 870 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 1: I lived through that too as a as a viewer, 871 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 1: so I completely came became It was no longer a cartoon, 872 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: it was an animated It was a movement and that 873 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: was huge. Yeah, that's really interesting. The actors they brought him, 874 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 1: everything about this show was extraordinary. I mean, going in 875 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: every week was like an acting lesson. The people I 876 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: got to work with, Mark Hamill, Roddy McDowell from Zimbilis Jr. 877 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: Stacy Keach, I saw Stacy keach Is Hamlet when I 878 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: was in high school. I mean, I had always admired 879 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 1: his work. And that's Andrea, and that's all these different actors, 880 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: and she went way outside the traditional pool of voice actors. 881 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: She brought them into. I was gonna say, what was 882 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: the traditional reach of actors then people off of certain 883 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: types of that's a good question. What was the voiceover actor? Well, 884 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: Andrea always referred to a lot of it as pukey. 885 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: Do you remember that with with like, well, there were 886 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: some it would be, but the acting itself, not necessarily 887 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: the act It was overly saccharin and overly cartoony. Was 888 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 1: the term, don't be cartoon? Yeah, because you know, like 889 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: when she would always say that when somebody would come 890 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: in and they it was always newscasters, a newscaster would 891 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: come in with it with something and they'd go, you know, 892 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 1: and this just in in Gotham and she go, no, no, no, no, no, 893 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: like you're a newscaster, say it just like you. And 894 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: I remember sitting there going like, oh, that's what she 895 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: means by pukey, Like, don't do it cartoon like it was? 896 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: And she was always had that doubt. Uki, that's so interesting, 897 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 1: and I think that it was real is. It was 898 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: the word I would use for Batman the animated series. 899 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: It was real. She brought an actors to acts. So 900 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: if there was any voice character that you would want 901 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 1: to do, I'm doing it again. Something else besides Batman 902 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 1: to do? Who would you do? Betty? Oh? Have his laugh? 903 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't have his laugh? I think an episode I 904 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: have his sinister Yeah, yes, I could see that. I've 905 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: done actually a voice for a new animated show that 906 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: hasn't been I don't know what's happening with it. But 907 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: he's very sinister and it's really fun. It's good to 908 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: play a villain after all these years. I am also 909 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: officially advocating for somebody to write an episode where Mark 910 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: Hamill and Kevin Connray get to switch roles for one 911 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,720 Speaker 1: for one episode. Oh they did that with Keep Remember 912 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: we did the body switch switch. I want to see 913 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: Mark Hamill is Batman and Kevin Connery is a joker. 914 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 1: I think that would be very very cool. His laugh 915 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 1: is just otherworldly. I mean it's just incredible. Well that was, 916 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: but that was the thing is so many people saw 917 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,240 Speaker 1: Star Wars and kind of went, oh, Mark Camill cute. 918 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 1: Well that's what I knew of him from and then, 919 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: but his actual acting, he's a he's a character actor 920 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: and a ridiculous slee good one. He's not a young 921 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: leading man, which is what he was pigeoned hold into 922 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: because he was such a good looking god had haircut, 923 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: but my really good looking god. Oh he is such 924 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: as really a character actor. He's crazy and not only crazy, 925 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: but insanely talented. It's just watching that, all right. So 926 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: we've come to a portion of our podcast here that 927 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: um makes us a little different than all the other 928 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 1: podcasts out there. So while we're just starting, it's not 929 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: fully interactive yet, but eventually we are going to be 930 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 1: fully interactive, and kids, young adults, and even some adults 931 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: are going to get to skype in, come in talk 932 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: to their favorite voice over actors. But more importantly, artists 933 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: are going to send in pictures and have some of 934 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 1: their favorite voice over actors add voices to their character. 935 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: So we have a stack here, oh that was sent 936 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: But to completely put you on the spot, we've had 937 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: for our first couple episodes, we've had some kids, some 938 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: adults send in some pictures. Put you on the spot, 939 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: isn't it? This is the joys in the muscles, and 940 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: we would like would you like us to pick or 941 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: would you like to pick? Here we go? Here we go? 942 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: Is he picking at random? It's up to you. Okay, 943 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful. Some great artists and some inspiring artists. Certainly, 944 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool. These are fun. Again, imagine being 945 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: a little kid and getting Kevin Conroy to put a 946 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: voice to the character you've drawn. These are fun. These 947 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: are fun. Okay, I grabbed a couple. You grabbed that's awesome. Okay, 948 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 1: So this first one is a beautiful fish with it 949 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: almost looks like a very disnified fish. It's a beautiful fishes. 950 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,479 Speaker 1: Uh is this from Sam? Who did our logo? Here? Sam? 951 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,439 Speaker 1: This is a beautiful fish. Beautiful beautiful fish. And Kevin 952 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: Connray grabbed your fish right out of the stack. So okay, Kevin, 953 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: you're you see that you're an audition comes in front 954 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: of you. We want Kevin Conroy to read for the 955 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: part of Sam the fish. This is my butterfly, and 956 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: this is my favorite butterfly. This is my pet butterfly. 957 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: I'm caressing my butterfly because fish love butterflies. That's a 958 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,479 Speaker 1: great voice. That's a great voice for Sam. The fish. 959 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,760 Speaker 1: And here we have a cat who's also from Sam Portly. 960 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: He's partly that very Portly cat. This is King pussy Cat, 961 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: King pussy Cat, and I am Emperor for the Day 962 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: for the day. There you go, look at that sale. 963 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: Kevin Conroy just put voices to two of your characters. 964 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: We got them both up there. We do. We have 965 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: this one now too, So King pussy Cat and what 966 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: was the fishy name? Sam? Well? I really I think 967 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: I like Sam. I really like Sama Butterfly. So, Kevin, 968 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: what's next? What's what's next for you? Down the line? Um? 969 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 1: This thing I just started doing that. I'm you never 970 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: know what you can talk about something awesome coming out. 971 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: It's by an Australian creator, Aborigine, right cool, which is 972 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: really interesting. Yeah. And then there was another one that 973 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: I did a couple of episodes of that. These are 974 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 1: things that are waiting to be picked up. I never 975 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm allowed to say the names yet, on 976 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: the side of caution and just say you've got some 977 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: really cool stuff coming out, right Yeah, But then it 978 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: sounds like you're just an actor. Line to make it 979 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: sound like you're working. I do that all the time. 980 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,919 Speaker 1: I do that all the time. I've got amazing things 981 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 1: coming out. I don't know which one to pick. I was. 982 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: You know when you do the the upfronts for the networks, 983 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: when you're doing a TV show, and so they bring 984 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: in to New York and you meet all the advertisers 985 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 1: or anything. And I was doing one for a show 986 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: that I was on with an actor and I was 987 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: doing interviews with him and he said, he's literally said 988 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 1: during the interview, I had a pile of script this 989 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: high and I picked this one off the top, and 990 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 1: I said, you know, this is a show I want 991 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: to do. And I was thinking, what a load. This 992 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: guy was so excited to get that job. And he's saying, 993 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: I had a lying Actors just act. They just act 994 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 1: actors acting. Oh gosh, that's actors being act That's the 995 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 1: way it is. That should be a podcasting. It's just 996 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of whispering into the camera about so 997 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: where did you find your motivation? That's an r exactly, exactly, 998 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to NPR. Actors on unctive. So again, we've now 999 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: got Batman for thirty somebody years. Batman ain't going anywhere. 1000 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: You're constantly being cast as Batman, Because you're Batman, Where 1001 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 1: do you what would you like to see from the 1002 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: Batman character that maybe you haven't done yet? Is there 1003 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 1: any part of this character in thirty years that has 1004 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,320 Speaker 1: not been explored that you'd like to see? They've explored 1005 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: so much. I love it when his identity gets challenged. 1006 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 1: Those are scripts that I really get excited by. There 1007 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: was one called Perchance to Dream where he gets drugged 1008 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 1: and he goes back into his childhood. And so I 1009 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 1: was Bruce Wayne, I was Batman, I was drugged to Batman, 1010 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: then I was adolescent Bruce Wayne, and I was Thomas Wayne, 1011 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: the father. So he did five voices in that in 1012 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,240 Speaker 1: that show that all have to be believably connected but distinct, 1013 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: But those kind of because it's the psychology of the 1014 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 1: character that makes him so interesting. Yeah, So any of 1015 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 1: the ones that challenge that I love, Like at the 1016 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: end of Arkham Knight, Yeah, the game, that's what happens 1017 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: to him. He gets his identity gets challenged. So I 1018 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: I love it when that happens. It does it seems 1019 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: like kind of the toughest fights ever for Batman are 1020 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: really the fights Bruce Wayne has to do against himself. Yeah, yeah, 1021 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: which is kind of the cool thing I ever wonder. 1022 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 1: I have a great big collection of cells. I've been 1023 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 1: collecting them all the time i've been doing the show. 1024 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: So I've got like sixty or seventies cells, and one 1025 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: of them is Batman struggling with Bruce Wayne. Oh that's 1026 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: that's that's very cool that you know. I've got to ask, 1027 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: do you sign your own seals make worth more? Yes? Yeah, 1028 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 1: of course, of course you have to do the same thing. 1029 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 1: It's like, this is the greatest thing. I'm gonna hang 1030 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: it on my wall to I started collecting other ones 1031 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: like Looney Tune and Hanna Barbera and You're still talking 1032 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: Andrea Romano Barbara. It's like the original n F T. Yeah. 1033 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: I got a lot of pinky in the brain. I've 1034 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: got a Carrot Blanca. Come on, it's a classic. It's 1035 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: a Looney Tunes where Bugs Bunny plays. Um, it's Sam 1036 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: yeah from Casablanca. It's it's a spoof Casan but he's 1037 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: a carrot right. Oh, okay, he's did. I'm thinking of 1038 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 1: THEA went to the Carrot one and Tweety Bird is 1039 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: Sydney Green Street. They're incredible. They're great cells and it's 1040 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 1: a classic. So I've got some great cells. Is that 1041 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: your nerd um? Like if you if you pick a 1042 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: nerd um? Is it kind of animation history? It's becoming 1043 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: so I knew nothing about it when I got into it. 1044 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:54,439 Speaker 1: Mark is the maven about animation history. He can tell 1045 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: you the episode number of the Obscure show and what 1046 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: color the cape, what you know? I mean, he knows 1047 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 1: everything about animation. It's amazing. Well you can tell you 1048 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 1: can see it in his passion. But you I mean again, 1049 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 1: I got to it was honored enough to sit next 1050 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: to you for many years at the microphone and to 1051 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: see the passion is honestly I've I've honored that you 1052 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 1: were here today. Thank you so much much, Thank you, 1053 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. This is, by the way, second this has 1054 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: been recorded. No, I don't think this is a rehearsal. 1055 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna shoot rehearsal, but decided against it. 1056 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 1: We are going to be doing it. You know, we're 1057 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna do it live next time. Yes, no, God, thank 1058 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: you so much for coming in. You were by far 1059 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 1: one of my favorite people in the world. Your mind too, 1060 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,919 Speaker 1: now I've adopted you too. Yeah, well, nobody has helped 1061 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: me more. No, No, he's my mentor. Don't you don't 1062 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: get to Yankees to stick together? That's true, Connecticut together 1063 00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: because it's important. So Milford Westport, Avon representing. Um okay, 1064 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: So Kevin, you know well, I mean in the con world, 1065 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,479 Speaker 1: you kind of sometimes don't know where you're going until 1066 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: you land. So I'm going to Dubai. Goodness, but that's 1067 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: in like three weeks. Have you been there before? That's 1068 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: going to be a fun trip. Crazy, That's gonna be 1069 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 1: a fun trip. I'm going to Wales with me. I'll 1070 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: see you there. Yeah. And I've got I've got a 1071 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: bunch of them lined up domestically and I just don't remember. 1072 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: Well what's where on Twitter? Um real Kevin Conroy? Okay, 1073 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: so please check out the site. You're also on cameo too, 1074 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,439 Speaker 1: and I'm like cameo, I do cameo, So make sure 1075 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: that to hit hit Kevin up on cameo as well. 1076 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,919 Speaker 1: Cameo experience has been fascinating. How's that much more fan 1077 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 1: interactive than I than I thought? And interesting over the 1078 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: last two years how it's changed during the pandemic, isn't 1079 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 1: it My cameos went from um, happy birthday, happy graduation, 1080 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: happy anniversary, and and they gradually started morphing into hanging there. Yeah, 1081 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, you're not alone. We're in this together. It's 1082 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 1: it's dramatic change and people just need that. And that's 1083 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: why it's so important. People are reaching out to each 1084 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 1: other so much more now because we've all been so isolated. Um. 1085 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: So it's been a really extraordinary experience and kind of 1086 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 1: a privilege to provide a service like that during this period. 1087 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of them, a lot of 1088 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: them like that. Yeah, but that's good though, So we 1089 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 1: can if you want, if you want something personalized from Kevin, 1090 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: hit him up on cameo and then uh, come to 1091 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: a convention and you'll find him real Kevin Conroy, real 1092 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Kevin Conroy. You may have to wait a little bit 1093 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 1: for what. Yeah, exactly, you're gonna have to say, bring 1094 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: a sandwich, Bring a sandwich, because it's gonna be or 1095 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 1: just come see me in the meantime, because that's what 1096 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Kevin's line was. Too long, You hear that quite a bit. 1097 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Conroy, Thank thanks so much again, including the lovely 1098 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: answer to who's the best Batman? Kevin Conroy, I am Vengeance, 1099 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: I am the Night, I am Batman. Cannot end on 1100 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 1: anything better than that, Thanks everybody. 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