1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: look at things. Dr Doherty and John Harris have their 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Here's Drew. 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: What a show we have today. This is Drew. Thanks 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: so much for listening. And hey, before we even get going, 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: we do me a favor. We please subscribe to this 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: so you know it comes to your inbox and you're 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: all set and you get it every Wednesday and your 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: week is complete and my family has food on the table. 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for doing that. 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: Now today on the show, going one on one like 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: we always do with my good pal John Harris, we're 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: gonna do a what if I told you we've got 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: a cream of the cropper for next week, and then 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: we're gonna hand the baton off to Shaquille Elajahwan Mason. 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: Yes that's shaq Mason's full name. We're gonna get into 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: that with him and have a lot of fun, do 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: a Drew's dozen. He's gonna answer some interesting questions. And 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: then after that we got kick it over to Caroline 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: Hendershot of the New York Jets. She's got the inside 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: skinny on what's happening up there? No, she doesn't know 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: exactly what's happening with the quarterback position, but who does really? 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: But without further ado, we're gonna go now to my 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: pal John. Here is Johnny and I are doing in 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: the lab. That's right, it's time. It's you and me, 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: John Harris, Drew Dorty, John, good to see you. Man. 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: Maksin's living large. 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: Big win last Saturday, big game this week against this 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: looks like on paper a really really shaky New York 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: Jets team. 32 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: But before we get. 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: Into all that, what's your favorite thing about taking a 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: trip to New Jersey slash New York with the Houston Texans. 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 3: Done? You've done a few of these over the years, Yeah, 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: she guys said, used done a few of these? Almost Yeah, 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: used done, used done a few of these. 38 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: You know, the last time, last time we went to 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: face the Giants last year. Last year we got in 40 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 4: later for some reason, there was something wrong like the trip. 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: I don't know why we got in later. 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 4: I just remember that that that was a fun a trip, 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: just because I kint of hung in the hotel and 44 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: that was that. But a few years ago, my nephews 45 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 4: were both living in New York and they love football, 46 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: they love sports. I mean, you know, I love those 47 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: two to death. And so we met up in We 48 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 4: met up in Grench village, had dinner at a great time, 49 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: and then the Texans went out and beat the Jets 50 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 4: on that Saturday. 51 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 3: Which was cool. 52 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: That was That was eighteen fourteen, You and I Jay, 53 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 4: We had a good time Roman New York. 54 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: We got there on Friday for a Sunday that's the 55 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: best one. 56 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 4: All day Saturday, sleep in Saturday, all day Saturday, then 57 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 4: game on Sunday. Unfortunately lost to the Giants, but we're 58 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: oll for the Giants, but we at least beat the 59 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 4: Jets there in eighteen so hopefully we'll be oh for 60 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 4: two Giants, but for two for two against the Jets 61 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 4: hopefully this Sunday. 62 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: And you know you brought it up. It's a it's 63 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: an interesting squad. 64 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: On the other side, I mean, that defense is arguably 65 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 4: the best defense in the league. You're not gonna find 66 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 4: many there better. You can find some that are on 67 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 4: the same line, you know, kind of the same level. 68 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: Maybe the forty nine ers, but not many. But the 69 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: offense is such a disaster right now for multiple reasons. 70 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: And you know you read this week that you know 71 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: Zach Wilson going back in the lineup? Is he not 72 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: Trevor cit Like? What are they doing to Boyle? Is 73 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: the start of the last two weeks, but then he's 74 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: cut and really it's I don't know, it's it's kind 75 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: of a it's kind of a mess. And of course 76 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: you got Aaron Rodgers and all that, which I we're 77 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: not going to see, but I don't know. It's just 78 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: it's odd because your offense, which is you know, been 79 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: doing some really good things now is to face the 80 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: best defense in the league. Your defense, which has been 81 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: doing some good things, facing arguably one of the worst 82 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: offenses in the league. So and there's gonna be weather issues, 83 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: so you know it's probably going to be just an ugly, 84 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 4: ugly game. But you just got to hope that you 85 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: do enough of the right things right and do some 86 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: of a lot of the simple things right. You take 87 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: care of the football if you did last week, and 88 00:03:58,800 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: hopefully you walk out of the. 89 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: With w John What if I told you, what if 90 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: I told you before Sunday's game that this would happen 91 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: for the Texans. Hank Dell will be carted off the 92 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: field in the first half, Davis Mills would throw a 93 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: pass at quarterback Cam Johnson, would have to punt seven 94 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: times in the game, You'd only go four of sixteen 95 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: on third down, You'd only rush for three yards of carry. 96 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: Stroud would get sacked five times. John What if I 97 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: told you those things before the Texans even kicked off? 98 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 5: What if I told. 99 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: You, well, I would throw one at you. 100 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: I would say, what if I told you the Broncos 101 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: would be zero for eleven on third down? 102 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: That would like that. That would complicate everything because. 103 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: You're like, whoa, And then you say, and Russell Wilson 104 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: only threw for forty four yards the first half alone, 105 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: the worst half of his entire career, which is probably 106 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: gonna put him in Canton someday. 107 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have. I would have been really confused. 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: I'd have been I don't know. And I think that's 109 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: kind of the way the game went it. You know, 110 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: it felt like it was a game that, you know, 111 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: at twenty two to ten, I thought, okay, you know, 112 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: just put a couple more, a couple more, put another 113 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: score up there, make it twenty nine to ten, and 114 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: you'll feel like you got it. But you know you 115 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: settled for three madamondol field goals, and I totally agreed 116 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 4: with the first one to get his confidence back, to 117 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: give him an easy three pointer. Okay, good, but you 118 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: know the fact that you had to settle for two 119 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: other field goals on drives and he gave up that 120 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: long ball to Courland Sutton, which by the way, was 121 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 4: his pretty throws I've seen all year long, and I've 122 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 4: seen every single c. J. Stroud throw up close. That 123 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 4: throw over Russell Wilson was as good as a guy. 124 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it was. 125 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 4: It was so incredibly good. But what you said, I 126 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: would have been like, Okay, they're not winning this game. 127 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: There's there's not a there's not a chance and you 128 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: know what of winning this game. But Nico, the three 129 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 4: things as I just mentioned, you mentioned one the one 130 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: I mentioned, oh for eleven and third down, you mentioned 131 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: Russell's forty four yards passing. I will mention Nico Collins 132 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: nine for one ninety one and three massive chunk. 133 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: Plays of thirty nine yards or more huge. 134 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: H Now you throw in there the throw that Straw 135 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 4: made to Metch you were Mechi's wide open. You just 136 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: overshot him a little bit that should have been seven points. 137 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 4: That should have been another touchdown. He had the three 138 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: field goal drives, at least one maybe two should have 139 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: been touchdowns. And now you're looking at what uh, and 140 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 4: then you probably shouldn't have given up one. Jimmy Ward 141 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: goes out of the game and al sudden they go 142 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: bang bang and they're down in there and they score 143 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 4: a touch to make a twenty seventeen. Either way, that 144 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: shot should have probably been a thirty four to seventeen game. 145 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 4: That's that's kind of the way it felt. Arizona should 146 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 4: have been that way. You know, Jacksonville shouldn't have gotten 147 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: you know, even at twenty four to twenty one. 148 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: But you know, so be it. 149 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: But I would if you had told me those things, 150 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: I'd have been like, all right, well, I guess wait. 151 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: They're winning basically, and they after every game, and you 152 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: could say this surely after every you know, even if 153 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: you win sixty three to nothing, you say, well, we 154 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: got some stuff we got to clean up. 155 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: But they really do have things they need to clean up. 156 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: But they are still winning games, right, They're winning games 157 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: against good teams, good quarterback. I mean, they're making it 158 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: happen when they're not at their best, and that's got 159 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: to make you excited about this future. And when I 160 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: say the future, I'm not talking next year. I'm talking 161 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: this game, the game after, you know, the next month 162 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: or so, because every single game is absolutely winnable for 163 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: the Texans. Absolutely winnable. Yeah, saying there, it's a slam dunk. 164 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: They're going to roll the table or win, you know, 165 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: run the table. But every single one of these final 166 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: five winnable. 167 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. 168 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: I mean, there are some that dabble in that the 169 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: dark arts that will tell you that they'll be favored 170 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: in every game the rest of the year. 171 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: Now, do you think they'd be favored against Indie? I mean, 172 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: got a one. I know they, I know they would 173 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: say that. I'm with I think the Indie game would 174 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: be close. 175 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it also kind of depends on what's on 176 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: the line in that indie game, right, by the way. 177 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: But all things being equal, I like the quarterback that's 178 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 2: suiting up for this team better than the one. Oh 179 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: I do for that one, and I think that one's 180 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: a good one. 181 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: And I think that's probably that's probably the reason that 182 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: the Texans are going to end up being favored the 183 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: rest of the way. So if you look at it, 184 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: you got Jets, Titans, Browns, Titans, Colts, Jets, you don't 185 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: know who the quarterback is. 186 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: Titans, it's Will Levis. 187 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: Browns, it's you don't know, probably Flacco, probably Flacco, maybe 188 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: dtr you don't know Levis again, and then you got 189 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew. 190 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: Well for the Colts. 191 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: The very in you know, at the end of the season, 192 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: as it looks as it looks right now, well, you 193 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: know there have been murderers, rows of quarterbacks that Textans 194 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: have faced over the years. This this is not that 195 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: you do have to play three games on the road, 196 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 4: these next two back to back, and you know, if 197 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: you're kind of if you're kind of playing it out, 198 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you're playing two four and eight teams, 199 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 4: But I don't want to say you want to split. 200 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: You have to get a split out of it. You 201 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 4: have to win your two games at home. There's no doubt. 202 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 4: You have to beat the break the Titans at home. 203 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: So if you split these two, you get those two. 204 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: Now you're three and one with one to go, and. 205 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: You don't know and you have no idea. I mean, 206 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: the playoffs could start that weekend. 207 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: You know, you gotta win to get in sort of thing, 208 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: so you never know what's gonna happen in week eighteen. 209 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: You know, Mark and I talked about these schedules and 210 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 4: what you're looking at and who's got what the rest 211 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: of the year, and you could argue the Texans have 212 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: the quote unquote easier road, but you know it's hard 213 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 4: to say. You know, the Bengals, you know you looked 214 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: at it two weeks ago. The cults have the Bengals 215 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: coming up in Sincy. Well, they're thinking it's Jake Browning, 216 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: he's you see what he did against the Steelers, will 217 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 4: hammer him. Well, then you look at Jake Browning against 218 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: the Jaguars. He beats the jaguars'money at football. And now 219 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 4: the game is back in Sinsey. So that game went 220 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: from being would look like maybe a walk away win 221 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: with the Colts to holy cow, that could be a 222 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 4: sixty minute fistfight. So this whole thing is just really 223 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: crazy down the stretch. The good thing is of the 224 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 4: seven and five teams that you're in with. So if 225 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: you just talking that side of it, you beat the Steelers, 226 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 4: you play the Browns. You lost to the Colts, but 227 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: you play them again and then you play the I 228 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: think it's it. I think I hit Browns and Colts. Yeah, 229 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 4: so you played the Browns and Colts, you beat the Steelers, 230 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 4: so you've got you've got a really good road. You 231 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 4: just have to take care of your business at this point. 232 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: So you know these two road games are gonna be tough. Outdoors, 233 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 4: cold weather, uh presumably outdoors in the rain this weekend. 234 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: You never know what you're gonna get Tennessee. 235 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: So you just I'm not saying I want to split, 236 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: but if you end up getting a split out of 237 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: that and you just take care of your business at home, 238 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: you'll be three and one going into the Colts. So 239 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 4: you'll be ten and six going into that final game, 240 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: and ten and six teams have typically gotten into the playoffs. 241 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: But you got to beat the right teams. The Colts 242 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: would have to be that right team to beat. 243 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: I want to be greedy. I don't want to split. 244 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: I know you don't need to. I mean, I don't 245 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: want to. I know you want to be greedy too, 246 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: but let's. 247 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: I'm just saying that if you want to make the playoffs, 248 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: you gotta have a split, right, right, right? 249 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: I know it's all good. Cream of the crop crop, 250 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: thank you, Macha Man. So Monday morning, who are we 251 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: gonna say you presuming a Texans victory, who's our cream 252 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: of the Crop award winner gonna be crop? It's so 253 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: tricky doing this on a Wednesday morning before we see 254 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: I know, because it seems like every Wednesday afternoon it's like, 255 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: what the hell didn't that guy practice? 256 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we get stunned. 257 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: I think one of our guys was Brevin Jordan last 258 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 4: weeks felt like, all right, Bred's gonna get out and 259 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 4: Bred good choice, good good choice by us. I'm gonna go. 260 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Robert Woods. You know, Bobby Trees 261 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: the last few weeks, not his feature. You know, it's 262 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 4: funny going back and watching the game and they beat 263 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: the heck out of him. 264 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 3: Inside. 265 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 4: I feel bad for Robert because a lot of times 266 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: he's running all those those dirty routes. Inside, he's getting bumped, 267 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: he's getting nudged, he's. 268 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: Getting held, all that kind of stuff. 269 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: I just feel like this week against the Jets, the 270 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 4: ball's got to come out of CJ's hands quickly, and 271 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 4: to be able to do that, I think it's got 272 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 4: to be savvy, zone finding, whole finding receivers that have 273 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 4: experienced in Robert Woods as the first one that comes 274 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: to mind, and he's not had one of those big 275 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 4: ball games. 276 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: He's been steady and he's been reliable. 277 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: I feel like in a game in which the ball's 278 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: got to come out of CJ's hands quickly, it's got 279 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: to come out hot, and it's kind of gona come 280 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: out fast, he's gonna have to go like he did 281 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 4: it in Baltimore. Now, it's a long long time ago, 282 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: but against Baltimore is the same kind of thing. 283 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 3: Third down, who do you look up? He looked up 284 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: Robert Woods. 285 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 4: I think this is going to be that kind of 286 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: offensive game, and Robert's gonna have to end up being 287 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 4: that guy doing all some of the dirty work on inside. 288 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go Robert Woods. I like that. 289 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna add on to that because I still think 290 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna see one hundred yard game from him or 291 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: two maybe. And I know the time is bleeding now, 292 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: but I've been saying that since they sort of started 293 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: getting rolling in week get four. He's gonna get his 294 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: and I that's a good choice because there will be 295 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: attention on Nico Collins. 296 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: There will be attention on No Brown. 297 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: Even though he had a tough not tough, but he 298 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: just you know, he had a quieter day on Sunday. 299 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: I do think that's a good choice. Here's my Cream 300 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 2: of the Crop award winner to. 301 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 5: Be the cream of the crop. 302 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: It's Blake Cashman, former New York Jet and I bet thankful, 303 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: but I bet he's thankful. Hey, they gave me a 304 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: shot in the league. I got some chances there, but hey, guys, 305 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: you traded me away for a late round pick. I'm 306 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: not playing like a late round pick. I'm getting significant snaps. 307 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: I'm starting sometimes, I'm I'm having to play a few 308 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: different positions at linebacker. But I'm a difference maker. I've 309 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: been the AFC Defensive Player of the Week. I think 310 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: he gets a chance to feast this weekend on an offense. 311 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: That's man, all that's going on. 312 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 3: Weird. Yeah, give me Blake Cashman. All right. 313 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: I think you've chosen him either on this show or 314 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: on Texans Extra Points, which you will be a guest 315 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: on with Ndy Kol when we shoot it later today 316 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: and it airs Saturday on ABC thirteen k T Okay, 317 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: it comes out Friday on YouTube. But give me Blake Cashman. 318 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: That's my crew, the Crop Award winner. 319 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, good one. You know, I almost love Jaalen Petrie. 320 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's gonna you know, we've heard what's 321 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: going on, but I think he's you know, I think 322 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: he's gonna be fine. 323 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: He had I think he played better Sunday, don't. 324 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I thought he played well Sunday. And it's 325 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: nice having Jimmy wardback. It's nice having the two corners. 326 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: It's nice having the starting secondary that you thought was 327 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: gonna be the one in twenty twenty three, yep, finally 328 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: get to play together in week thirteen for that. 329 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: And it made a difference. 330 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 4: It made a massive difference having all those guys back together, 331 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: because at that point, somebody goes down. When you're bringing 332 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 4: in somebody that's had some experience and has been in 333 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: the fires, you know, Jimmy goes out. 334 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: DC's got to come in. 335 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: Now the Texans at Adrian Amos to the back end, 336 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: just for you know, a veteran, savvy, a guy that's 337 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: been around. So interesting things going on in the secondary. 338 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 4: But the the fact that you had the four guys 339 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: that you wanted to start the year with healthy and 340 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: ready to go. And they all made and they all 341 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: made they all made place, Yes they did. They all 342 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: made place. 343 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: That was a fun Sunday. 344 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: And it was capped off between Jimmy Ward's interception and 345 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: you and I walking down the tunnel doing our app 346 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: our post game in the lab, I got an interception 347 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: or excuse me, an interview interview with the intercepteur. Yeah, 348 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: Jimmy Ward, And it was a lot of fun. I 349 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: did some wrestling me and Ginokele and I kind of 350 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: played up the crowd got him. It's great going. 351 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: But that was cool. 352 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: But anyways, John, it's always fun talking with you. You're 353 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: You're a Caream of the Crop award winner every single. 354 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: You were kind, my good friend, and uh we thank 355 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 4: you for the time. 356 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: Now it's time to get weird with Shaquille Olajuwon Mason 357 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: number sixty nine, Shack Mason. He's been a constant up 358 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: front for the Houston Texans at right guard. 359 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: Really fun convo with him. Here is a snippet of. 360 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: That blank talks. I'm locked in and I'm listening. Demico Ryans, Okay, 361 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: all right, anybody else outside of football outside. 362 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 5: Of football, Yeah, ma, mo, Yeah. 363 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: How did you get to talk to her? 364 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 5: I talk to her every day? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, every day. 365 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: Now after a game, when she talks with you, is 366 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: she fully supportive? Is she breaking down errors somewhere in 367 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: the middle what she liked? 368 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 5: She's definitely critiquing. It's like she's very how can I 369 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 5: put it? Like she's she knows my position very well, 370 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 5: and like she can point out if something goes wrong, 371 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: she can point out line play like she she's pretty 372 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 5: on it. 373 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: She knows. 374 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 5: She's been like that my whole life. 375 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, how long you've been playing ball? That was 376 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: five five So she's been at every practice and game 377 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: pretty much all the way. 378 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 5: Through football, basketball and baseball. 379 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: There you go. 380 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: Okay, if you were not playing pro football, but you 381 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: could play another professional sport, what would it be? 382 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 5: You could choose baseball? 383 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: You played a little bit or you played a lot? 384 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: Growing up? 385 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 5: I played a lot? How far I played? 386 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 387 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 5: I played until junior year. Well, position third base? 388 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 3: So you got an arm? 389 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 5: Yeah got an arm? 390 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: Let mean she if you could throw from third base, 391 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: you could throw football. 392 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 5: Huh played in the hot corner though that I played 393 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 5: basketball too. But I'm six two on a good day, 394 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean basketball probably wouldn't have wouldn't have 395 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 5: worked out. 396 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: I hear it. 397 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: So you're from Tennessee. You went to Georgia Tech. Are 398 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: you Braves fan, Chipper Jones fan or yeah? 399 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 5: I like I like the Braves, like the Bears going up, 400 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 5: and I think being from Tennessee, that was that was 401 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: our team. You know, everybody in Tennessee like the Braves, so. 402 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 2: They're kind of the team of the South. Really, baseball, 403 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: who is your favorite baseball player ever? 404 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 5: Favorite baseball player ever? Probably David Ortiz? 405 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: Really? 406 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 407 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: How come? 408 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: Growing up? 409 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 5: I was number thirty four because of him? He was 410 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: a power hitter. Once I went to the pages, got 411 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 5: to meet him, and you know, it was pretty much, 412 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 5: you know, a connection from there. 413 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: You said, you're thirty four. 414 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: That's also fitting because your middle name is awesome and 415 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: it's Elijah one Elijauan obviously thirty four here in Houston, 416 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: so we love that too. 417 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 3: Did you get a chance to say hi to him 418 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: last week? 419 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 5: I've been, I've been. 420 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you ever met him? 421 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 5: Never met him? 422 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: Oh? 423 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 5: Man? 424 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: But yeah you met Shack? 425 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 426 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: Man, we dropped the ball and that we should have 427 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: made that happen. You need to meet Dream next time 428 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: he's here. Okay, what's the most embarrassing thing that you've 429 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: ever worn? 430 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 5: Three four halloweens ago? I was a dressed up with 431 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 5: Scooby Doo with my kids, So. 432 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: That's not embarrassing. You're being a dad. That's cool, That's great. 433 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: I like it. Scooby Doo is fun. 434 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: What music would you want played every time you walked 435 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: into a room, kind of like entrance music walking into 436 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: a room. What song would you want or what music 437 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: would you want? 438 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 5: It would definitely be some form of hip hop specific song, 439 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 5: probably be Nipsey else don't take days off. I listened 440 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 5: to that song every game day for since college. 441 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: So that's the one. 442 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 5: Huh. 443 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 2: The animal that you'd most want as a pet and 444 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: you knew it would never go crazy and just like 445 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: kill everything in this path. So any animal basically you 446 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: could choose to have as a pet A lie, A lie. 447 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: That's I think the common choice around here when I've 448 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: asked that question, what's the best Christmas gift You've ever got? 449 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 5: Crazy? One? One Christmas I got Shaquille o' neil Jersey. 450 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 5: That was the when he was with the heat, the 451 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 5: throwback where they had you know how they had the black, 452 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 5: the pink, the strip. 453 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Vice style. 454 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, probably one of my favorite because president growing. 455 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: Up, he's one of the most dominant players of all time. 456 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: So what do you think is most impressive about him? 457 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: His basketball stuff or his business acumen and all he 458 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: said off the court. 459 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 5: I'll probably say his business side of it. 460 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: I mean, it's remarkable. 461 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 5: It is is crazy because he had the physical tools 462 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 5: to you know, do the basketball stuff, but to have 463 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 5: the maybe even more success off the court. 464 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: What was it like when you met him? 465 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 5: Did y'all talk about just growing up? How you know 466 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, How why I was named after him 467 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 5: and things like that. I mean, and to this day, 468 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 5: I mean we still we still talk. I probably talked 469 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 5: to him maybe probably like twice a month. You know, 470 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: he really just you know what I'm saying, chit chat, 471 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 5: check in and see everything's going. 472 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: So that's awesome. We got to get him out to 473 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: a Texan game. We'd be be fun to see it here. 474 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: We do get him and dream together because I know 475 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: he's a big fan of Dreams. He's a big fan 476 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: of Yao's too. My most chill teammate is. 477 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 5: Who alt for sure? 478 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: Larry Tutzele. 479 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, how come? 480 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 5: He just a even keeled never too high, too low, 481 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 5: just never rattled. But you know, you see him walking 482 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 5: in this he moved gracefully. You know it's a chill dude. 483 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: Okay. 484 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: The teammate who gets you the most amped up. 485 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 5: Is who probably Jimmy Ward? 486 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: Really? 487 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? 488 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: How come? 489 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 5: Jimmy's a He's an electric guy, he is, and he 490 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 5: brings a lot of energy each and every day. So 491 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: I'd probably say Jimmy probably gets me amped up each 492 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 5: and every day. And his lockers to two lockers down. 493 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: So how do you like that? 494 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: Have you? 495 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 2: Because I imagine before you came here, you were like most 496 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: NFL locker rooms. 497 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: It was like this. 498 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: Before Demico got here, where the offensive linemen were all together, 499 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: the receivers were all together, and so it was all 500 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: by position group and usually the defense was on one side, 501 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: the offense was on the other. There's a little pocket 502 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 2: in the middle with the special teamers. 503 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: How do you like that that mix up of I 504 00:20:59,600 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: like it. 505 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 5: Like it was when it first happened. I'm like, what 506 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 5: are we doing? But but you know, as the weeks 507 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 5: grow and I'm like, I kind of like this over. 508 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Because we see the position 509 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 5: group all the time, you know, so you around new people, 510 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 5: you know, you get to know each teammate differently. So 511 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 5: I mean I like to I like to set up now. 512 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't off the top of my head, 513 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly who you're next to, but he's there. 514 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: I know, Tank Dell and Dalton Schultz are kind of 515 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: close by you too. 516 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 5: It's me. I'm right here sting Jimmy Derrek Stanley, j 517 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 5: Noah Tank, than Dalbin, Noah. 518 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: Brown, Tank. That's that's a lot of it's a lot 519 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 2: of explosion right there. Okay, if you could choose anybody 520 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: else on offense, doesn't have to be a s earily alignment, 521 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: but anybody on offense and the defense calls and says, hey, 522 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: we need this guy to fill in at a position 523 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: on defense for a series. Who's going to fill in 524 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: at any of the spots. Who's the best suitor to 525 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: play on the defensive side of the ball. I say me, Yeah, 526 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 2: what would you play? I play a detackle? Okay, would 527 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: you mess with some guys? 528 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: I think I would I mean, I'm high school. I 529 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 5: had eighteen sacks for senior year. So I like to 530 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 5: tell the D line coach that all. 531 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 2: The time, how hard was it to give the defense 532 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: up when he moved on? 533 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 5: It was it was hard because I mean I I 534 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 5: thought I was gonna play defense in college, but you know, 535 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 5: once I got there, it was the triple option offense, 536 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 5: so we like defensive livestances, so you know, the switch 537 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 5: was pretty easy. 538 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: Okay, let's play make believe you are who you are 539 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: right now, same size, speed, height, strength. You get to 540 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: put on your current high school's uniform and go play 541 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: a game with them. What's the stat line going to be? 542 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: And you can pick the positions that have to be one. 543 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: Did you play both sides of the ball? What are 544 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: you playing? And what's the stat line. 545 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 3: Going to be? 546 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 5: I probably still play dtackle, but still line would be 547 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 5: a different a lot a lot different these days. I mean, 548 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 5: however long the game is, I think I have every 549 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 5: TfL sack. 550 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: Cause you just said eighteen sacks in the season. You 551 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 2: can get that in a game. That game, all right, 552 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: would you touch the ball? Would you be a ball 553 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 2: carrier on offense or would you be no you would 554 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: you give up that chance to maybe tote the rock? 555 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 5: And uh, just because I know even even high school 556 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 5: kids out you know, I still don't want to be tackling. 557 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: Okay, last thing, what's your favorite Christmas song of all time? 558 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: Probably Silent Night, Silent Night? Yeah, can you give us 559 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: a little bit? 560 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 5: Nah? 561 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: I had to try shack with Shaq. There's been a 562 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: Drews dozen. Thanks so much for the time. Awesome stuff 563 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: from Shaq Mason. Thanks to number sixty nine. And keep 564 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: staying strong and blocking and making things move on offense. Okay, 565 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 2: switching gears, We're gonna talk with Caroline Hendershot of the 566 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: New York Jets. Covers the team up there. She'll be 567 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: on the sidelines for ESPN Radio as well. This is 568 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: a brief conversation with Caroline. Caroline Hendershot is the guest 569 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: this week. She knows everything you need to know about 570 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: the New York Jets. He's been with them a while 571 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: and interesting times. They're interesting times here and these two 572 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: teams are gonna clash. This defense is the thing that 573 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: stands out to Texans fans and everybody the most as 574 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: far as the biggest threat facing CJ. 575 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: Stroud company. 576 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: These guys are rock solid at just about every level 577 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: of the defense. 578 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: What's been most impressive to you, Caroline. 579 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: With what they've been able to do this year, some 580 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: of the struggles and challenges they've faced. 581 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think this defense is truly one of a kind, 582 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 6: and I know early this season in training camp they 583 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 6: wanted to they were talking about being that number one defense, 584 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 6: and they have really latched onto that goal and kind 585 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 6: of taken off with it. Every position, like you've said, 586 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 6: has a stud or multiple studs at it. So like 587 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 6: you have the defensive back groups with Michael Carter the 588 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 6: second who I don't think gets enough of a like 589 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 6: shine because he's also partnered with Dj Reed and Sauce Gardner, 590 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 6: who are two incredible cornerbacks and who shut down almost 591 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 6: every wide receiver they go against every week. But then 592 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 6: you have two linebackers who could go to the Pro 593 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 6: Bowl this year in CJ. Mosley and Quincy Williams. Quincy 594 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 6: Williams is having like his best year that I've ever 595 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 6: seen him play football in. And then of course the 596 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 6: defensive line is just out of control and they have 597 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 6: so many good players that just rotate through that defensive 598 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 6: line and one being Bryce Huff who is having a 599 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 6: bit of a breakout year with the amount of pressures 600 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 6: that he gets. And Jermaine Johnson, who is a rookie 601 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 6: last year and has been having an incredible sophomore season. 602 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 6: So I just think that this group really is kind 603 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 6: of getting better each week and fixing a lot of 604 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 6: the maybe weaker points of their game. So like last week, 605 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 6: for example, against the Falcons, they had been letting up 606 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 6: one hundred and forty rush yards per game, right they 607 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 6: only let the Falcons rush for ninety. So it's those 608 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 6: kinds of incremental steps that they're taking each week that 609 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 6: I think it makes them a really special group and 610 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 6: really hard to play against, especially on the road for 611 00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 6: the Texans. 612 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: Hendershot of the New York Jets covers the team up 613 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: there just ticked off a list of names who have 614 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: been super impressive. It's a real luxury to have, you know. 615 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: One of those names is Sauce Garger. He has looked 616 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: every bit the part of a top five pick since 617 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: he arrived there here or. 618 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: So ago hasn't he? 619 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, he has. 620 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 6: Like I think last year everyone didn't maybe expect him 621 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 6: to come out in his rookie season and have the 622 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 6: kind of dominant performance that he did and get put 623 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 6: against some of these NFL veterans that he went against 624 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 6: and shut them down as well. And he has just 625 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 6: been a very consistent force back there, and I think 626 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 6: that really helps the d line because they know that 627 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 6: they don't maybe have to get to the quarterback in 628 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 6: their first move. Maybe they can get to the quarterback 629 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 6: and their second or their third move because Sauce is 630 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 6: not letting the quarterback throw the ball as quickly as 631 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 6: they would probably like to. 632 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 7: So he is really really dominant. And DJ Reid too. 633 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 6: Like I know that Sauce is the flashy name, but 634 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 6: DJ Read has been out of this world as well, 635 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 6: and he played at a Pro Bowl level last year 636 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 6: and I think is playing again at a Pro Bowl 637 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 6: level this year. 638 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 7: So two really really good cornerbacks of. 639 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: Those personalities that you deal with there and get to 640 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: interact with on the defensive side of the ball. 641 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: Who's been the most surprising to you? 642 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 6: That's a really good question because I feel like it's 643 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 6: funny because I feel like a lot of the defense 644 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 6: is like really loud and kind of just in your face, 645 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 6: and like they know we're gonna come at you with 646 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 6: all we got and whatnot. But Sauce is kind of 647 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 6: and I'm he flips a switch when he's on the field, 648 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 6: I'm sure, But Sauce is definitely like very just kind 649 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 6: of like reserved, and he's very similar to Garrett Wilson 650 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 6: in the sense that they just seem very mature beyond 651 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 6: their years, Like you would never guess that they are 652 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 6: as young as they are, and they just kind of 653 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 6: have this wisdom about themselves and they carry themselves in 654 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 6: a way where you're like, oh, I like would have 655 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 6: never guessed that you're only in your second year. You 656 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 6: seem so much older and like you've been through so 657 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 6: much more. And Sauce has spoken about this and he 658 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 6: said a lot of that is because of kind of 659 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 6: the tutelage that he's gotten from DJ Reid. 660 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun to see who those guys matches 661 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: up with the Nico Collins Is, Robert Woods and ye 662 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: Noah Brown. 663 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 3: Tech tex is gonna be without Tank Dell. 664 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, he was ripping things up here in Houston as 665 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: a rookie seven touchdowns already. That's a franchise record for 666 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: catches by a rookie touchdown wise in a season, tell 667 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: me about Robert Sala and the job he's done, because 668 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: one of the storylines entering this one is the Demico 669 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: Ryans and Sala connection. We of course, old people like 670 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: me remember when Sala was a really low level assistant 671 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: here with the Houston Texans, you know, when he was 672 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: getting his start in the NFL and Gary Kubiak was 673 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: the head coach at the time. Sala was kind of 674 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: a holdover from the previous regime, and Kubiak was just 675 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: super impressed with Sala, always being around the building, always 676 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: having a good idea or two for such a young guy. 677 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: But what have you seen from and you know the 678 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: dynamic that we're gonna hear storyline wise with Demiko Ryan's 679 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: coming up this week. 680 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Sala is just a coach that obviously 681 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 6: his defensive background is so deep and you can see 682 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 6: that in the Jets defense in today's like and how 683 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 6: they play and all of the preparation that goes into it. 684 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 7: But I think something that maybe just like. 685 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 6: Gets grazed over with Robert Sala is just how detail 686 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 6: oriented he is. 687 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 7: He truly is like always in the building. 688 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 6: There's never a time that he's not here, and he 689 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 6: is making sure each player is really on their piece 690 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 6: and q's and he always says, like football is a 691 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 6: game of inches, and it comes down to those little moments, 692 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 6: and he gets really on the guys about small penalties 693 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 6: that we can fix because there's been a lot of 694 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 6: penalties this year and the difference in penalties. Sometimes he's like, 695 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 6: I like the aggression that they play with, So there's 696 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 6: certain penalties where I'm okay with that, but there's other 697 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 6: penalties where like. 698 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 7: We can't have those kinds of things happen. 699 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 6: And he gets really on those players, and you can 700 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 6: see them fix these things week in and week out, 701 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 6: and definitely like make. 702 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 7: Concerted efforts to fix these weaker. 703 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 6: Spots within whether it's the defense, the offense, whatever, special teams. 704 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 6: But I think as a coach, it obviously always comes 705 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 6: down to those details, and he is a big stickler 706 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 6: on those details. 707 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: Caroline Hendershott of the New York Jets covers the team 708 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: up there. It's fun to hear some of those stories 709 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: you just mentioned, because you said every inch. We hear 710 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: Demiko Ryans quite often say, you know, fight for that 711 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: last blade of grass, and it's come to the four 712 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: for the Texans and a few wins this season, and 713 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: quarterback wise, what's the story that you you think and 714 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: know is going to happen and what are the Texans 715 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: going to prepare for? Because he was asked about it 716 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: Demiko Ryan about you know, the uncertainty with the Jets 717 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: quarterback position, he said, hey, we got to focus on ourselves. 718 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: We got a lot to fix defensively mistake wise, But 719 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: what can you tell us from your end about the quarterback. 720 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 6: Coming into today when we're recording it. Robert Solow yesterday 721 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 6: I said that he's not there yet in terms of 722 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 6: naming a starting quarterback. So obviously last week Tim Boyle 723 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 6: started and then Trevor Simeon came in and Tim Boyle 724 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 6: was actually cut today. 725 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 7: So Tim Boyle is no longer on the roster. 726 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 6: So right now it is looking like it's either going 727 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 6: to be probably Trevor Simeon or Zach Wilson, one of 728 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 6: those two because those two have obviously been on the 729 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 6: roster and playing and practicing with the team for the longest. 730 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 7: As of right now, who between the two of them, not. 731 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 6: Sure who it will be, but we did hear that 732 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 6: Sala said that Zack Wilson went into Robert Sala's office 733 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 6: and kind of made a case for himself of why 734 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 6: he wants to start, why he thinks he should be 735 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 6: starting and playing for this team. So it will come 736 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 6: down to Robert Sala and what he thinks is the 737 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 6: best after watching the tape from Sunday and kind of 738 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 6: making that overall decision. But that is all the information 739 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 6: that they have right now. Whether they'll name a starter 740 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 6: tomorrow or whether it will be later in the week, 741 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 6: we're not sure. So it's kind of a wait and 742 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 6: see game, which I don't know if that is an 743 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 6: advantage for the Jets, maybe having the Texans keep them 744 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 6: on their toes, but we'll we'll just have to wait 745 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 6: and see. 746 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and weapons wise, whoever's throwing the ball, who is 747 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: kind of on the rise in your estimation as far 748 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: as look out for this guy. He's been playing a 749 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: little bit better, he's getting more targets, so on and 750 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: so forth. Could be a receiver, could be a running back, 751 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: could be a tight end. 752 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 6: This is a really good question because I think everyone 753 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 6: obviously knows the big names like Garrett Wilson and Brice Hall, 754 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 6: right those two stars at wide receiver. 755 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 7: And running back. 756 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 6: But I think someone that is growing each week is 757 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 6: Xavier Gibson. Now, he was the wide receiver who actually 758 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 6: returned the punt against the overtime win against the Bills 759 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 6: in Week one back way back in September. 760 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: Even if Boston I believe right, Yeah, yes he was, 761 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 4: Yes he was puts. 762 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 3: His ax and Jack's hand signal up and so we 763 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: do exactly. 764 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 6: So I think that he has been getting more and 765 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 6: more targets each week, and he has been making something 766 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 6: of them each week. So I think he's definitely some 767 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 6: one that the Texans fans should be kind of on 768 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 6: the lookout for. 769 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 7: He's definitely rising. 770 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 6: I talked to him after last week's game against the 771 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 6: Falcons and he was like, there's still so much that 772 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 6: I have to work on, but I do think that 773 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 6: I'm kind of catching up with the speed of the 774 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 6: game and playing a little bit faster and picking up 775 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 6: on those like small tendencies that rookies tend to not 776 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 6: have right at the jump. And so I'm excited to 777 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 6: see kind of his career continue to go and grow. 778 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: You know, this Jets team is an interesting one because 779 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: it was totally written off when when Aaron Rodgers went down, 780 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: and then you know they were hanging around and doing 781 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: some things going through a stretch that's tough right now, 782 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: But clearly they're not a group that makes it easy 783 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: on you and has given up. Where do you see 784 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: and what do you think resiliency? What sort of reservoir 785 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: of resiliency is there with this this squad in your estimation? 786 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've talked to a lot of them obviously after 787 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 6: these past couple games where they've been on a little 788 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 6: bit of a losing stretch. But I think that what 789 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 6: stands out to me the most is just the same 790 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 6: standard that they hold themselves to, like no matter what's 791 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 6: going on around them, no matter what is happening, no 792 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 6: matter if they're winning or losing, they continuously hold themselves 793 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 6: to this standard. And I think that you know, Aaron 794 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 6: Rodgers spoke earlier today on the Pat McAfee show and 795 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 6: he said, it's gonna show a lot about what kind 796 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 6: of professionals these guys are and how they finish the 797 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 6: next like so on games, because it's it just really 798 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 6: comes down to maybe things aren't working out exactly as 799 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 6: you expected them, but like, what are you doing to 800 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 6: kind of put your all in and change this. And 801 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 6: I know a lot of the guys are having that mindset, 802 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 6: so I look forward to kind of seeing them battle 803 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 6: this and try and bounce back from this streak. 804 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: All right, Caroline Hendershott, We do appreciate the time, best 805 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: of luck this weekend, and can't wait to talk again 806 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: sometime down the line. 807 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 7: Awesome, thanks for having me. 808 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: Many many thanks to Caroline Hendershot. She delivered the goods. 809 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: It's always good to catch up with her and we 810 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: appreciate her time. 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