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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love saying John Carney's

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Speaker 1: name in the newsroom. If you get that one, you're

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Speaker 1: one of us. I'm Greg Rosenthal in the Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: podcast studio alongside my friend Patrick clayban joined by Nick

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Speaker 1: Shook in Cleveland and never fails Patrick. When they say, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a bad slate this weekend, not a great like

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Speaker 1: ten am slate, then you get crazy ending crazy.

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Speaker 2: Is an understatement, it's bananas.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about what game I want, and it's like, oh, Greg,

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Speaker 3: I'll take this Dallas game because I'm gonna laugh at

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: But it was not me who was laughing, nor Commanders.

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Speaker 1: No, that was very smart to take that Cowboys game.

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Speaker 1: And Shookie, it's really the theme of the whole week.

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Speaker 1: You actually went to the game in the snow in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: That set the tone. People thinking that's two and eight

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Speaker 1: verse eight and two. That wasn't gonna be good. But

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Speaker 1: you were there having the time of your life and

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Speaker 1: list like living in the snow for your Browns. Was

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Speaker 1: that better than a playoff almost better than a playoff win?

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Speaker 1: Who needs playoff wins? When you can have a night

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Speaker 1: like that in the snow.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, no, but it was probably it was probably a

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Speaker 4: top three football experience, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was kind of getting it at that,

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Speaker 1: Like each Sunday or Thursday night, you never know, like

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Speaker 1: exactly what that game is gonna give you. And it's

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Speaker 1: been a tough season for Browns fans and certainly Cowboys fans. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but today you got a great experience. I'm sure there

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Speaker 1: were some Cowboys fans in the crowd. We're gonna start

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Speaker 1: with that game, and yes, a two play sequence that

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Speaker 1: Commanders fans will be remembering in January.

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Speaker 5: If they do not make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Here's the staff.

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Speaker 2: Dallas just breaks free. He's able to step up, Love

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Speaker 2: flood over.

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Speaker 6: The tabu Plarner's open forty five to fifty forty five,

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Speaker 6: forty turns on the Cats.

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Speaker 5: He's god toun yard toun job. What good it did?

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Speaker 5: Another miracle? I didn't know that you believe that? Shy

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Speaker 5: to tell those do?

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Speaker 7: Whoah?

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Speaker 6: Unbelievable eighty six yard touchdown pass to Terry mccloride.

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Speaker 2: Oh whah. I don't know what he's announcing it. I

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Speaker 2: don't care. There's twenty one seconds left.

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Speaker 7: We got an extra point. The game is not tied

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Speaker 7: off that Cyber has to make this. He missed it

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Speaker 2: Moments before disaster, foreshadowing.

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Speaker 8: Its stap low trust, Why gets it down?

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Speaker 2: Step stop a bad step? They got the hold down.

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Speaker 5: It's Cyber missed it.

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Speaker 1: Left fram Weinstein, Man k Wbig London, Fletcher, the ups,

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Speaker 1: the downs. Listening to the excitement, Yes, when Terry McLaurin

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Speaker 1: catches an eighty six yard touchdown pass on a one

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Speaker 1: I was like, listen to a horror movie where you

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Speaker 1: know the monster or the killers right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: And yes, it was that bad snap and bad kick

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Speaker 1: by Austin Cyber. We missed a few kicks on this day,

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Speaker 1: so maybe it wasn't just a bad snap. Given me

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Speaker 1: memories of John Carney. Do you know what game I'm

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Speaker 1: referring to here? Back in who knows the early two

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Speaker 1: thousands when the Saints had the river sit really whatever,

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Speaker 1: it was the crazy game against the Panthers where they

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Speaker 1: got the touchdown at the end of the game, one

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Speaker 1: of the best finishes in NFL history.

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Speaker 5: But then John Carney missed the extra point.

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Speaker 3: That's what it reminded me of early similar and perhaps

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Speaker 3: I think Defree Henderson kind of fades into existence. Terry

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Speaker 3: McLaurin will be remembered a lot better that in this

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Speaker 3: play where this moment is going to stand for a

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Speaker 3: very very long time as the new The kicker missed

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Speaker 3: the extra point after incredible touchdown that would have tied

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Speaker 3: half where the Commanders could really do nothing, and it's

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Speaker 3: shades of late season Cliff that we'll have to discuss

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Speaker 2: And try to figure things out.

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Speaker 3: I've been trying to mind resources to get theories on

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Speaker 3: what's wrong with the Commander's offense in every offense that

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Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury calls late in seasons, but they were disjointed early.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys get Doron Bland back and he's over there

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Speaker 3: on that the field. Actually, Terry McLaurin scores that touchdown

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Speaker 3: on the right side, something that he's done a couple

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Speaker 2: But there's a Bobby Wagner stripsack.

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Speaker 3: This starts with a Kwan Martin block kicked as well,

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Speaker 3: and we're celebrating Commander's special teams, like, oh, they could

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Speaker 3: Daniels runs in the two point and it's twenty to

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Speaker 3: seventeen and you're thinking, all things great, but they have

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Speaker 3: and hilarity ensuits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to back it up, before that Cavante Turpin kickoff

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Speaker 1: that point, like nothing's happening after that. You mentioned the

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Speaker 1: arts and the two point conversion. That's with three minutes

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Speaker 1: ninety nine yard kickoff return, which to me was one

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Speaker 1: of the best plays of the entire season because that

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Speaker 1: the highlight. That's one of the best plays of the

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Speaker 1: NFL season. But we were just getting started at this point.

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Speaker 1: Cybert hits a fifty one yard field goal on a

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Speaker 1: I didn't mind the Cowboys strategy there after. They didn't

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Speaker 1: That's when they hit the McLaurin. And then yes, just

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Speaker 1: for a little fun on top, we actually got a

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Speaker 8: Here we go on side kick recovering you win, Soyburn

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Speaker 8: booms it till the left and is covered them.

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Speaker 6: Thomas running it back one ya Thomas to the cowbo

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Speaker 5: This game is fuck. That was our friend Brad Sam.

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Speaker 1: Have not heard enough from Brad Scham this season from

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Speaker 1: probably over at that point, but Nick, when you have

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Speaker 1: a play that's stupid to end one of the craziest

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 4: It was just a drunk Sunday for all football teams,

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Speaker 4: but especially this game. Also, kick return touchdowns are not

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Speaker 4: all created equally, as you can see right there as

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Speaker 4: he returns an on sidekick for a touchdown, and the

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Speaker 4: whole time he's going to the end zone, I'm shouting

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Speaker 7: Get down, don't score, don't score. He scored anyway, it didn't.

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Speaker 5: Matter, right.

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Speaker 1: It's believed to be the first time two kickoff returns

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Speaker 5: Like, it's nuts.

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Speaker 2: The camera pan's over after one yay.

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Speaker 3: Thomas is celebrating in the end zone to Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 3: and he's cut his arms out, like why.

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Speaker 2: Did you score that touchdown? Because Jane Daniels comes in.

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Speaker 3: He already has one Hail Mary that's true on his

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Speaker 3: But you know, anything you can do a game have fun.

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Speaker 1: I think it was worth it just for the sham

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Speaker 1: gods call and Mike McCarthy, if you want to be critical,

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Speaker 1: like what, you've really coached up your player to slide

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Speaker 1: finish the game. That was actually the move and he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He chickened out. But that's fine. This was the first game,

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Speaker 1: also in NFL history, to have two I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is a weird collection of plays, but two missed extra points,

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Speaker 5: And now they're seven and five. They're on a skid.

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Speaker 1: The offense, as Patrick mentioned, was in Kingsbury shutdown mode

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Speaker 1: in the second half of the season for most of

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Speaker 1: this game. Now you start to think, like, hmm, could

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Speaker 5: If the Falcons actually win some games.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna have a lot of repercussions, Nick,

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Speaker 1: because I just was penciling this one in in some

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was concerned about when they had

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Speaker 4: this great start to you know, early in the season,

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Speaker 4: Kingsbury's offense is rolling. But we know what happens to

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Speaker 4: a Cliff Kingsbury offense once it basically Daylight Savings arrives

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Speaker 4: and we get to fall backward. His offense falls backward

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Speaker 7: The Cardinals out.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Granny put twenty six points on the board,

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Speaker 4: but like you said, it was ten to nine in

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: Have them based necessarily on this game. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: again discussion is whether or not it's in game adjustments,

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Speaker 3: whether or not it's adjustments over the course of the season.

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Speaker 3: With the similarities being so particular and teams having time

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Speaker 3: operating under Cliff. But I mean, we saw more running

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Speaker 3: and Jayden's always having to throw guys into traffic. Nobody's

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Speaker 5: The kick that is a concern.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I know people are concerned about Daniels as

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Speaker 5: I think that's hard.

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Speaker 1: Let's just leave that alone because when he's making these

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Speaker 1: actually after that initially like injury, initially, maybe it is

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Speaker 1: the next game.

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Speaker 3: And that was just like game since situational Extravaganza.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just sweet.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you know, it's like Yati. You know everything

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Speaker 1: If you get Macarthy saying extravaganza and Yatzi in a

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Speaker 1: In Week twelve, we had some teams that we we

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Speaker 11: From the Stroud in trouble. He stepped out of the

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Mike Keith on w g FX, Yeah, CJ.

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Speaker 1: Every time someone runs out the back of the end

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Speaker 1: On a day where yske Stroud yet didn't seem like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a game that was filled with big chunk plays

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Speaker 7: With CJ.

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Speaker 4: pressured there of course, but oh my god, guy shot

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Speaker 5: Just like that.

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Speaker 5: Just too easy.

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Speaker 4: This is going to be a roump for them. Nope,

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Speaker 4: Will Levis and the Titans come right back. They take

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Speaker 4: There were rises, there were falls. There were ugly turnovers

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Speaker 7: That was one of the games where I was like hammered.

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Speaker 4: This weekend football is just just very drough because this

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Speaker 7: Goal before halftime.

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Speaker 4: It was a wild game between two rivals that are

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Speaker 1: That's right, we were worried about this game on Monday

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Speaker 1: If you listen to the Pick Show, this was my

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Speaker 1: not necessarily winning, just because the Texans they just don't

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Speaker 1: So if you're not getting any of those booms, you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the only thing they got from Joe Mixon was

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Speaker 3: After that, there was also, like there's several just key

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Speaker 2: High leverage miss. There.

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Speaker 3: There was a miss by Kayami Fairburn where they're right there,

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Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry to cut you off there. No, you're not.

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Speaker 3: Cutting up because it's a great step and where just

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Speaker 3: And admittedly we've been talking about problems on this offensive

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Speaker 2: You scored twenty seven points and lose.

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Speaker 1: One of the wildest stats in this game was that

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Speaker 1: Will Levis became only the second quarterback in NFL history

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Speaker 1: don't know if they can lose the division. They're seven

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Speaker 4: I don't care that it's a divisional opponent and you're

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Speaker 4: But it just didn't carry over. And that is what

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Speaker 7: These are the teams that expect to make deep playoff runs.

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Speaker 4: The Texans just aren't there right now, and I'm really

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Speaker 1: Well, they're definitely not. I don't think I shouldn't say definitely.

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Speaker 1: The NFL always makes us look stupid when we assume anything.

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Speaker 1: But if you can lose to the Titans, you can

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Speaker 5: I don't want to believe that.

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Speaker 1: But in a game where they had thirteen drives, they

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Speaker 5: That's bad, bro in that.

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Speaker 3: They have the mistakes, the drops, the miskicks. I just

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Speaker 3: I think they give somebody problems in the playoffs. They

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Speaker 2: I'm not close.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you gotta put you gotta get a win in

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville next week, that's huge. Before thereby, then they come

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Speaker 1: you just can't get enough.

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Speaker 5: Mike Keith Levis shouldn't have gun with Pollard on his right.

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Speaker 5: Heel play fake let as firing down feel complete.

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Speaker 5: That's Dave Bagetti's there jumping in. You know what he

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Speaker 1: He knew that was a touchdown run by one athletic

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Speaker 5: He knew that was going to be a touch on,

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Speaker 1: So he just felt the impact of that touchdown tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Green Bay where the Packers are not

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Speaker 5: Under center, Packers leading by fourteen. Love looks it over

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Speaker 6: Burrowing left side, Denzil touchdown, Hen sir, is your dagger.

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Speaker 1: That is right, Wayne Larvi wr and w the dagger

439
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 1: might have been even earlier, but Wayne has respect for

440
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. He doesn't expect a beat down

441
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: like this. The games that finishes thirty eight to ten.

442
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 1: It's the biggest loss in the history of this rivalry,

443
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: which is crazy. It's also the biggest loss in terms

444
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 1: of the deficit that Kyle Shanahan's had. Shanahan has had

445
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen different times. Now for the forty nine Ers,

446
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 1: who did not have Rock Purdy in this game, they

447
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: did not have Nick Fosa in this game, and so

448
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: on one hand, you give him a pass.

449
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 5: Nick. On the other hand, I do think the way they.

450
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: Lost that it's not competitive also speaks to kind of

451
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: where this team is at at five and six.

452
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, green Bay dominated this game basically from

453
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: the first quarter onward. Yeah, I got down to a

454
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 4: ten point game and then a fourteen point game, but

455
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 4: it was never really all that close because the Niners

456
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 4: only mounted one drive of significance all day, and it

457
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 4: was the one that ended in the three yard touchdown pass.

458
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 7: To George Kittle, which was a great catch.

459
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 4: You know, brand Allen threw some nice passes, He had

460
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 4: some excellent completions. He also had some misses, and it

461
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 4: just felt like the punch out of these Niners had

462
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 4: been taken from them. You know, they didn't struggle and

463
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 4: pressuring Jordan Love that much. Love was getting out of

464
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 4: the pocket a lot though, to extend plays as a

465
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 4: result of that pressure. Even without Nick Bosa, they just

466
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 4: they didn't stack up against the Packers on both sides

467
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 4: of the ball. They also committed a ton of penalties

468
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 4: in every phase of the game. Deebo Samuel had an

469
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 4: eighty seven yard kick returning to open up the second half.

470
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 4: You're like, oh, there's the spark they need called back

471
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 4: by a penalty. Like they were constantly behind the sticks.

472
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 4: They asked Alan way too much, you know, to do

473
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 4: way too much with his arm. He finished his seventeen

474
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 4: to twenty nine for one to ninety nine a touchdown

475
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,239
Speaker 4: on a pick by who Xavier McKinney. Of course, who

476
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 4: else would it be intercepting opposing quarterbacks than Xavier McKinney.

477
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 4: The Packers just dominated. They were better in every phase

478
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 4: of the game. And it is It's one of those

479
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 4: games where you look at the Niners and you think, oh,

480
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 4: I don't know, because Christian McCaffrey not effective, still doesn't

481
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 4: look all that explosive. He only had eleven carries when

482
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 4: you finished with thirty one yards. This offense was very

483
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 4: lopsided and they just never stood much of a chance.

484
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 4: They gave away the ball three times. The Packers defense

485
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 4: had a banner day. They were playing with their hair

486
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: on fire, flying around the field. It just looked like

487
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 4: a team that was contending for a Super Bowl versus

488
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 4: a team that's like, yeah, we're middling, you know, at

489
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 4: five hundred or worse.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Packers kind of I wouldn't say they needed

491
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: a game like this, but I think it's going to

492
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: feel good for them to get to eight and three

493
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: and have a game where they did everything they needed

494
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: to do. You can't even put it on the forty

495
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: nine Ers offense. Brandon Allen and the forty nine Ers

496
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: had run six plays and at that point the forty

497
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: nine Ers defense had already given up seventeen points. So

498
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: Brandon Allen apparently had a broken finger according to the

499
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: sideline on Fox, and had never been on the injury report.

500
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 5: He's the starter of this game.

501
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: Kyle Sanahan, as Cynthia frielin, likes to call him the

502
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: Lion liar, who lies.

503
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 5: I mean, they got to find him for that.

504
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: He's a starting quarterback and they didn't never mention a

505
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: broken finger. Brock Purdy meanwhile, not just miss this game.

506
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about where this is going because they said

507
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: they reported he had a second MRI on a on

508
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: his shoulder before missing this game, and a starting quarterback

509
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: doesn't miss a game with a right shoulder injury unless

510
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: it's serious. And you get to our MRIs hoping to

511
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: maybe see something different before we just kind of wrap

512
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: up the forty nine ers portion of this conversation just

513
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: they just feel like a team that had didn't have

514
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: it all already, and now maybe it's it's just like

515
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: one injury too many. Obviously, if perty misses another game

516
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: or two, like it's done.

517
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, just three wins without Trent Williams in the in

518
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 3: the Trent Williams Era.

519
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 5: For Trent Williams didn't play in this game, thank you.

520
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: No, It's it's been a rough injury season in Santa Clara.

521
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: And now like when I initially saw the reports because

522
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 3: we talked to Tom Pelsera on Tuesday about you know,

523
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: Rock Party leaving practice with the shoulder soreness, the forty

524
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: nine ers, the statements again coming out of you know,

525
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 3: Cynthia tells us about Kyle Shanahan, nothing to be concerned about.

526
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 3: Then he goes in the MRM machine and nobody's getting

527
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 3: in there for fun erhaps, let's much less do it twice, so.

528
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: They're looking for something that is really really a problem.

529
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: Bus's expensive, like you, I don't know if they have

530
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: the same healthcare as us, but an MRI, I forget

531
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: about it, Well.

532
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: Better be better than ours, because otherwise brock perty is

533
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: going to be getting a call from a collector here

534
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 3: in three years. But aside aside from that, just just

535
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 3: an ineffective game trouble protecting Alan. He had had a

536
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: fumble forced by Lucas van Ness's helmet. Again, if he

537
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 3: only has an on fingers to hold onto the ball,

538
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: that's that's a real issue. You start to wonder with

539
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 3: Dime's sitting at home and looking for a team, perhaps

540
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: this is the spot.

541
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 5: That's a good call.

542
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: I thought Minnesota when Darnold looked like he sprained his ankle,

543
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: but he came right back into the game, and you're

544
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: absolutely right. It could be a spot for Danny dimes.

545
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: Let's let's tell about the Packers are going to be

546
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: playing on Thanksgiving. Definitely the best game on Thanksgiving is

547
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: Packers Dolphins. Ohthough Caleb Williams playing so well, we'll get

548
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: to him. Spices up that that Bears Lions game. Tell

549
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: me about your your takeaways shook on the Packers, especially

550
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: on offense in this game, where it took him at

551
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: least the passing game a little while to get going.

552
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, the passing game wasn't It was there, but it

553
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 4: was a lot of misshots. Actually, there was a ball

554
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 4: that Jordan Love put on Christian Watson that was perfect.

555
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 4: I'm watching it travel through there and I'm like, I

556
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: have enough to juice to get there, and as it's

557
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 4: descending him like, oh, it's right on him, right there,

558
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: and he drops it. There was like a few of

559
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 4: those in this game where Love's total would have been

560
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 4: fifty seventy five, one hundred yards more and maybe another touchdown.

561
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: It didn't look as bad as the numbers looked, you know,

562
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: when you're comparing the two. But really this is all

563
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 4: about Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs paces this offense in this game.

564
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 4: Twenty six carries one hundred and six yards, three rushing touchdown,

565
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: and a career high fifteen forced misstackles. Okay, that's the

566
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: most by any ball in a single game this season.

567
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 4: According Next to Gen stats, that was a rate of

568
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: fifty seven point seven percent, his highest of the season. Okay,

569
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 4: he's having a great year. As we know with the Packers,

570
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: that fits been tremendous and this was the peak for

571
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 4: him so far, and they kind of needed it because

572
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 4: Love wasn't piling up those numbers. But the crazy thing

573
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 4: is is when you look at the stats after the game,

574
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: I'm surprised that they didn't break four hundred yards of

575
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 4: offense just because it was that one sided, and it

576
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 4: was because they got short fields from their defense. They

577
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: capitalized over and over and over again. They were a

578
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: pretty efficient offense. They average a little bit under five

579
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: yards per play, but they were just it looked very good.

580
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 4: Tucker Craft got involved in a touchdown, catch you another

581
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 4: catch to set up another touchdown. It was just an

582
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: offense that could attack you from a number of different

583
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: ways in a strong performance for the whole unit.

584
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the run game is going to be so important

585
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: for them. It's what's made them special this year. I

586
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: know the Malik Willis games juice it up a little bit,

587
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: but they are They truly are one of the best

588
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: running teams in the league. Jacobs is having one of

589
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: those seasons. It's every other year for Jacobs and Emmanuel

590
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: Wilson is the one actually that shows me. Man this

591
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: team and the play calling, they're all really insanct because

592
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: when Emmanuel Wilson comes in for those seven eight carries

593
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: it a game, he's getting it done as well. So

594
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: really looking forward to seeing them on Thanksgiving night. And yeah,

595
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: it is getting late early for the forty nine ers

596
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: who play Eric's Bills next week, and they're gonna need

597
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: a healthy quarterback or they could be at five and

598
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: seven and in big, big trouble because there.

599
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 5: Are good teams in the NFC West. Let's go to

600
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 5: Seattle prettage.

601
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 9: On four to one at the forty Murray have the

602
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 9: center this time, play fake.

603
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 5: Murray's gonna try to get it. He's gonna run far side, he's.

604
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 12: Gonna jump it over the top, gonna chump to Kobe

605
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 12: Bryant far sideline.

606
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 5: He's got the blockers.

607
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 6: Thirty twenty five, twenty ten time touchdown Shit.

608
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 5: Hawks, No fight. Kobe Bryant.

609
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: Oh, Kobe Bryant, he hit him with the Marshawn Lynch

610
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: hm D yeah, celebration. I good job by Patrick Clayband

611
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: giving me the assist. Didn't know how to handle that moment,

612
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: but it wasn't too big for Patrick. Steve Rabele ofr

613
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: kiro Man that game, that play really changed the entire game.

614
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: I thought Kyler Murray had a chance to get to

615
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: the edge, but Devin Witherspoon did a fantastic job after

616
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: diving on the inside, made Kyler Murray hesitate for just

617
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: a second and by then it was too late.

618
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 5: He didn't have the angle on the run.

619
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: He forces a pass that just sales Kobe Bryant takes

620
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: it to the house sixteen to six.

621
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 5: The Seahawks get it done.

622
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: And I wanted to start with that play because it

623
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: really was all about this defense and it's now a

624
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: thing we talked about it coming into this game. The

625
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks defense in the last three games against the Rams,

626
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, and now the Cardinals have given

627
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: up a total of thirty six points in regulation. Rams

628
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: hit him for that overtime touchdown too, but I'm talking

629
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: regulation thirty six total points at twelve points a game,

630
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: and they came out today with one thing just stressed

631
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: above all, and that was to stop this Cardinals rushing attack.

632
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: You've been talking about it Nick all year, that they

633
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: kind of go as James Connor goes. Well, he had

634
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: twelve carries today, he had a zero percent success rate

635
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: on those twelve carries and only fourteen runs as a whole.

636
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: Because they were so unsuccessful running the ball. It made

637
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: the Cardinals one dimensional. Kyler could have made a couple

638
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: plays like they had some penalties go against them. There

639
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: is a different world where they are closer at the

640
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: end of this game, but ultimately Seattle's defense dictated, and

641
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: I would say that's been true three straight Division games.

642
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald a little bit like Baltimore or a year ago,

643
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: has figured things out in the middle of the season

644
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: and they're really streaking.

645
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: Leonard Williams especially was outrageous today.

646
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we know that when you stopped this

647
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: rushing attack, that it makes the entire Cardinals offense run

648
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: into a rut. Right, So that should be approach number one.

649
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: But you're right, it absolutely speaks to Seattle coming on

650
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 4: as of late. I mean The funny thing is that

651
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: Mike McDonald and John Schneider are not afraid to just

652
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 4: jettison guys that suddenly don't work for them anymore in

653
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: an effort to get better, like Tyrrell Dotson, gone get

654
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Speaker 4: out of here. Oh, by the way, we've allowed ten

655
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: points or twelve points per game over the last three games.

656
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: Like that's super impressive, especially for a regime with Mike

657
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: McDonald as the head coach. Of course, that was a

658
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: little bit questionable because his reputation coming in was I'm

659
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: going to fix this defense.

660
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 7: This defense was our weakness last year, and for a.

661
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: Lot of the early games this season and even up

662
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: until I don't know the start of this past month

663
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: or so, they weren't delivering. They weren't delivering, and too

664
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 4: much was on Gino Smith. And you saw the risks

665
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: that are associated with that. Yes, you get the thrills,

666
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 4: but you also get the risks. Then they come in

667
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: and they hold an offense that's quarterback by Kyler Murray

668
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: just six points and you're able to win with just

669
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: sixteen points offensively. That is a team coming together at

670
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: the right time in a very winnable division, and you

671
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 4: don't need Gino to throw for three fifty and maybe

672
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: risk three interceptions or something to get there. It's a

673
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 4: beautiful thing when a team starts to come together like that.

674
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: Well, hell, they only scored nine points offensively, right because

675
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: they they got the pick six, and I think the

676
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks offense was better than that number would show. But

677
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: Gino had a very similar interception to what happened on

678
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: the Kyler Murray play. Where after what I thought was

679
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: the Seahawks maybe best drive of the whole season, like

680
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: if they had finished it off, Gino has a rushing

681
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: lane to get a first down and he throws an

682
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: interception that was not necessary and keeps the Cardinals in

683
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: it for a little while longer. But they did get

684
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: the ball back in a situation close to their own

685
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: goal line, and he hit two of the toughest third

686
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: down conversions that you'll ever see. End up having their

687
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: longest drive of the season. It's a field goal drive,

688
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: but it was good situational football and felt to me

689
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: like a game winning drive. I mean, it's not the

690
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: same as you're trailing and you need a touchdown, but

691
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: essentially was a fourth quarter game winning drive.

692
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, wiped most of the fourth quarter, off the clock

693
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: and Gino ultimately on that interception in the red zone

694
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: ball caught in the end zone. Didn't see the defender

695
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: until he's looking up at the replay after the play,

696
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: and then he was dejected for the entire There was

697
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: a sideline shot of Gino Smith not looking at anybody,

698
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: just staring off in the distance, really frustrated with himself.

699
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: Comes back.

700
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: There's a third and I believe fourteen where Gino just

701
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: had a turnover in the red zone. Yeah, fires a

702
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 3: dangerous ball to DK that he fits in there like,

703
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: not affected by the mistake at all. Gino comes comes

704
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: right back to go down the field, burning clock while

705
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: throwing the ball. Kenny Walker has a couple plays on

706
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: that drive as well, Jackson Smith and Jigba has a

707
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 3: catch where the game start. This drive starts way before

708
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: five minutes to go, and you know the clock's not

709
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: stopping on incomplete passes, and it gets into that time

710
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: where the Cardinals.

711
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 2: Were thinking about taking time eutse right towards the end

712
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: of it.

713
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that that play to DK was

714
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: one of the plays of the game by Gino, but

715
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: there was also a third and eight to start out

716
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: that drive where the pressure got there right away, And

717
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: for Gino fans today was weird because he really wasn't

718
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: under that much pressure. He actually had a lot of

719
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: time to throw, and early in the game I almost

720
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 1: felt like it was freaking them out, like we don't

721
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: know what to do, Like he just started spitting around

722
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: a little bit, and they did not move the ball.

723
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: They punted it the first four times, and Arizona really

724
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: wasn't getting that much pressure. They were doing a really

725
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: good job in coverage, and it was a game in

726
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: the second half of very few possessions. They had an

727
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: eleven play drive which ended with his interception, and then

728
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: that eight minute drive that Patrick just referred to. But yes,

729
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: on the first third down where he is essentially backing

730
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: up to his own goal line, just about pressure gets

731
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: there immediately and he throws a ball that hads to

732
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: have perfect anticipation. He throws before the receiver comes out

733
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: of his break. And that's what you love about Gino

734
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: is that he will give you one. At this point,

735
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: we got to accept it, like he'll give you a

736
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: chance at one, and some great quarterbacks too, but he

737
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: will always keep firing. And I actually thought if you

738
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: took that one play away, and that's a big if,

739
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: this would have been like either his best game of

740
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: the year or one of them, because other than that

741
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: one play he was outstanding.

742
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: Nick.

743
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, you take the good with the bad with him, right,

744
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: like you get the electric moments and you also get

745
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: the moments where you're like, oh no, why'd you throw that?

746
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 13: Oh?

747
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 4: DK caught it all right? Cool first down? Speaking of which,

748
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: seven or fourteen on third down? I want to know

749
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 4: how many of those were on that one specific drive

750
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 4: that Patrick mentioned, because like for the rest of the

751
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 4: offensive output, it doesn't seem to quite line up. But

752
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: I mean a march like that, you got to convert

753
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: a number of third downs and keep the drive going.

754
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 5: Kind of a.

755
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 4: Strange day for them, considering like their identity offensively and

756
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 4: especially in previous games.

757
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 7: But you'll take him. You know, a win's a win.

758
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 5: I will answer your question. Three first downs on that.

759
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: There you go, so three almost half yeah, And that

760
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: first one was to Smith and Jig but who I

761
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: really think has improved and is a big part of

762
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: their story. But the other third down was on a

763
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: third and four draw, and I almost screamed, I can't

764
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: remember the last time the Seahawks have had a successful

765
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: run on a third down in like four I mean,

766
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: it's it's outrageous. Their running game was pretty poor throughout

767
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: this game. If they can get their regular running game

768
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: going occasionally like other than plays where ken Walker runs

769
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: into a wall and then spins around and gets seventeen yards,

770
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: they could be really good.

771
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: And maybe work the play action passing game a little

772
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: bit more. Is Geno throwing play action on fifteen percent?

773
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: I think if pass attemps one of the lowest rates

774
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: in the league, and another tendency breaker today where we

775
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: think a Geno taking shots downfield all the time, like

776
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 3: that ball to dk Metcalf twenty four passes under ten

777
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: are yards today for seventy yards two hundred and seven yards,

778
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: and that one touchdown where there's something about the search

779
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: bar over there. With this Cardinals defense is bugging. Everybody

780
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: can't figure out why up, but they were able to

781
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: consistently do it.

782
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 5: They got it done again ultimately.

783
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: I mean they held the Seahawks under five yards per play,

784
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: They held them to nine points on offense. Both teams

785
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: were under three hundred yards, So yes, there are good

786
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: defenses here in the NFC West, this division race is

787
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: just getting started. Seahawks needed this win. They already had

788
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: two division losses. The Cardinals didn't have any, they would

789
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: have gone to three and Oh these two teams play

790
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: each other in two weeks and ultimately that game is

791
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: going to be even bigger. But the Seahawks set up

792
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: themselves tie to top the NFC West after eleven weeks

793
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: at six and five. Good stuff by the Seahawks in

794
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: this entire division. Let's take a break and get to

795
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: some other craziness.

796
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 5: In the NFC one. Jake mcway the long snapper Ryan

797
00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 5: right home.

798
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 11: This is a twenty nine yard field goal between the

799
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 11: hash Marks to.

800
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 5: Win at snapspot Roll. Minnesota Vikings have won.

801
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 11: Five consecutive games.

802
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 5: At Soldier Field.

803
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 9: The final score thirty to twenty seven.

804
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: That was our friend Paul Allen on k FA N.

805
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: They had to work for it, the Minnesota Vikings winning

806
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: overtime after giving up an eleven point lead in the

807
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: final two minutes.

808
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 5: Of this game. Great game in the NFC.

809
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: North, Caleb Williams played out standing throws for three hundred

810
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: and forty yards and two touchdowns. Like I said, led

811
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: the Bears to a last second drive and then a

812
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: last second field goal after they recover an onside kick

813
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: with under twenty seconds to go. A fantastic game. Jordan

814
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: Addison goes for eight for one sixty two. I think

815
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: this is the perfect situation. Patrick for Bears fans, well

816
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: is that? I mean, I know you'd like to win

817
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: and this hurts. But Caleb Williams has played his two

818
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: best games as a pro. I believe in a row. Okay,

819
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: he looked. You're seeing everything you want out of your

820
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: number one overall draft pick. But ownership has also seen

821
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: everything they want to fire Matty Eberflus at the end

822
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: of this year.

823
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 5: This team's not going to the playoffs anyway.

824
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: So what you want is Caleb development, but maybe some losses,

825
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: a good draft pick, and a new head coach next year.

826
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 3: I can I can see the case for that. Okay,

827
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: get you get everything that you want, you find your quarterback. Finally,

828
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: three forty two touchdowns, where he also led the game

829
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: in rushing for the Chicago Bears as well, beating out

830
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough to run against this floor's defense,

831
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 3: but it's gonna be tough to throw for three hundred

832
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: and forty yards and he is able to do that.

833
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: And yes, the most of the Bears people that I

834
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: talked to, the fans, the people who want the best

835
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: for the team, would and you know, shout out to

836
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: Maddiberflus and all the success he's had, would prefer a

837
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: different head coach.

838
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 2: So I agree that maybe this is the best case.

839
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Although you know now I'm talking out of both sides

840
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: of my mouth. If you had just won this game,

841
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: first of all, would have felt good to end that

842
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: losing streak. You know, only'd be at six losses, which

843
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: now in the NFC would only be one lost back,

844
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: so you could have some copium convincing of yourself. But

845
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: part of the reason why I don't think the Bears

846
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: are gonna win a ton of games down the stretches. Yeah,

847
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: Caleb is suddenly playing well now, but the defense isn't

848
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: getting enough stops. Shook when it really matters, the Vikings

849
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: go for four hundred and fifty two yards. I was

850
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: really impressed actually with the drive that they had to

851
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: set up a Romo field goal with one fifty six left.

852
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: Felt like that ended the game at twenty seven to sixteen,

853
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: where Nick Mullins had a third and long because he

854
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: came in for a play, and Aaron Jones gets a

855
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: big conversion, and then Sam Darnold, who has really played

856
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: well the last couple of weeks especially, has a big

857
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: third down conversion and they're bleeding the clock. So the

858
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: Bears it's not getting enough stops really to be the

859
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: type of team that Eberflus wants him to be. And

860
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: I think for the Vikings getting to nine and two

861
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: with a win like this, I don't care about the

862
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: style points. I think that's impressive that they stuck with

863
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: it and you ultimately get it done in the end.

864
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean style points can be overrated from time

865
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 4: to time, especially in a divisional game. I mean on

866
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: that Bears defensive note though, there were like multiple third

867
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 4: downs in the overtime period where I was like, oh,

868
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 4: this defense is crumbling, Like this is not the defense

869
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 4: that it was even six weeks ago. There were multiple

870
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: third downs where Darnald drops back he's been sacked there

871
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: behind schedule, and he finds TJ. Howkinson open, He finds

872
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 4: Jordan Dadison open down the sideline beyond the sticks.

873
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 7: Where it's soft coverage. Why are you allowing that to

874
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 7: happen because your defense is not as good as it

875
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 7: used to be.

876
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: On a day in which you allow three different guard

877
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 4: guys to break one hundred yards Aaron Jones twenty two

878
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: for one oh six, jordanas An eight for one to

879
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 4: sixty two, Hockinson seven for one to fourteen. Like you said,

880
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: four hundred and fifty two yards of offense for the Vikings.

881
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: That is not the Bears defense that we thought it

882
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 4: was not too It's a late great Denny Green. But yeah,

883
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 4: but so yeah, I and the Vikings get the job done.

884
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 4: Like that's what's most important here is that they got

885
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 4: the job done. Sam played a clean game. He threw

886
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 4: for three thirty. Everything's fine. It was a little weird

887
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: at the end. You screwed up on some details, but

888
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 4: you came away with the win. You were able to

889
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: overcome that adversity when you were basically collapsing on the

890
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 4: road in the Windy City. But I do want to

891
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: pivot back to Kayla because there was one throw he

892
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: made early in the game where he ran down the sideline.

893
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: He was he escaped pressure, He's looking downfield and I'm like, oh,

894
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 4: this is a video game throw. Because as he's looking,

895
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: he's doing the Josh Allen, He's approaching the sideline and

896
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: DeAndre Swifts wisely turns upfield and he just loft it

897
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 4: over the defender to Swift for a gain of thirty

898
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 4: And at that moment I wrote down the note where

899
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: I was just like, that's the play extension that we've

900
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: seen from him four weeks that usually resultsed in completions

901
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: or he has to throw it away, or maybe he

902
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: gets sack late, which did happen to him later, but

903
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 4: he was able to make it work. And that was

904
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: kind of a point about this whole Bears offense since

905
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: they replaced Shane Waldron with Thomas Brown, where I'm like, hey,

906
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 4: you know what, Yeah, they lost the game, but they

907
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 4: still put up three hundred and nine eight yards of offense.

908
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: They still we had a fighting chance. They still competed

909
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 4: in Kayler was able to make things like that happen.

910
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: He is way better than I thought he would be

911
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: coming out of USC. Illt the generational tag on him,

912
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 4: but after watching everything that he's dealt with, because like

913
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 4: we've spent so many weeks, the talking heads have spent

914
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 4: so many weeks, not us specifically, because I think we

915
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: know better where it's like, is Caleb the problem? Do

916
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: they need a quarterback again? They don't need a quarterback again.

917
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 4: They need to be better around him, and that starts

918
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 4: with the coaching staff. This is the guy. He is

919
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 4: a special quarterback. Bears fans enjoy it. Hope that everything

920
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 4: around him gets little bit better because he's gonna be

921
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: your guy for a long time.

922
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: It's a really fascinating comment, but it makes sense if

923
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: you weren't as big as him coming out of college.

924
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: I was never worried long term about him. He had

925
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: shown more than enough throughout this season, and it was

926
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: so early. But the way this season was going, how

927
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: can you not be a little surprised how quickly that

928
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: the change to Thomas Brown has turned things around. I

929
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: really think his game last week was underrated and he

930
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: played outstanding and he had to throw a swift, but

931
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: earlier on that drive he also ripped one into Keenan

932
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: Allen ye. They were down eleven points, like I said,

933
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: and it felt like it was maybe garbage time. And

934
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm tracking this game because one of my picks with

935
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: Cynthia was Vikings, you know, minus three and a half.

936
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they're going to get the cover, and

937
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: they actually have a fourth down play where Roma Dunze

938
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: catches it like a great individual played by a Dunze,

939
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: but a great throw also by Caleb to trust him

940
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: on a fourth down, like they would have lost by

941
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: eleven if they don't make that play. But they get

942
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: the touchdown, they get the two point conversion, and then

943
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: they get the on side kick after it bounces off

944
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: a Viking. And I think one of the best throws

945
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: he made all game was twenty one seconds left. He

946
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: has to thread it over the top of the linebacker,

947
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: but with velocity. To DJ Moore, that was a sick throw.

948
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: You run up and you spike it. That's legendary stuff.

949
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: And I know the overtime when Salary took a bad sack.

950
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: He's a rookie and it wasn't all going to be perfect,

951
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: but my god, he he was like one of the

952
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the NFL today.

953
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, And even when things go don't go right, right,

954
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: because that completion to Romo Dunze on fourth down, it

955
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: came after a third down attempt where Caleb Sails won

956
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: over Rome's head. Right, he's throwing his hand on his

957
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: helmet because he can't believe he made a miss like that.

958
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 3: But then he comes right back. And so even the decisions,

959
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: and that's the one thing that I always want to

960
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 3: with a rookie quarterback. Whether or not the ball is complete,

961
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: the throw is catchable, how was the decision, how is

962
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: the process? And the process has been very good for

963
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 3: Caleb again, other than when he holds on the ball

964
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: for entirely too long like he did in overtime. But

965
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: the question is, Shook points out, is is the team

966
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: around him right? And you mentioned that Nick Mullens completion

967
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 3: that was actually a very high leverage play, like it's

968
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 3: twenty one to sixteen. At that point, Sam Donald is out.

969
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: Nick Mullens comes in for one play. That one play

970
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: is third and twelve. It's third and twelve and he

971
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: throws He throws an easy pass to Aaron Jones where

972
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: there's no Bears defenders there in the middle of the field.

973
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: He runs for a first down. Nick Mallins could take

974
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 3: his helmet off and go chill for the rest of

975
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: the game. Because Sam Donald comes back in, they go

976
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: down the field and hit a field goal, which winds

977
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 3: up being ultimately the difference in the game, right.

978
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones fumbled on the goal line early in the game.

979
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: He ends up with one hundred yards on the ground.

980
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: Also had that huge reception when Aaron Jones is playing well,

981
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: they're playing well. He talked to our friend Stacy Dale's

982
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: after the game, so good to.

983
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 11: See you get in the end zone after that fumble

984
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 11: in the first drive.

985
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 7: How I mean, we saw the emotions on the sideline.

986
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: I tried to keep it.

987
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 14: I try to keep it together on the salon, but

988
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 14: it's hard, you know, because I want to get in

989
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 14: the end zone so bad and you.

990
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 5: Lose the ball.

991
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 14: Those are things that get you fired, you know, And

992
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 14: I can't. I can't do that. I gotta be better

993
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 14: than that. But I'm glad I got a chance to

994
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 14: make up for it. And I told coach, thank you

995
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 14: for sticking with me, and it means the world to me.

996
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 7: He ain't nobody firing you, my friend.

997
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 5: That is absolutely true.

998
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: Although Jones has had that's a couple of big time

999
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: fumbles now in big situations near the goal line, but

1000
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: he ends up helping them get to a win with

1001
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: some big plays late. And yeah, when Addison's one of

1002
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: the best second receivers in the league. Is nice to

1003
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: see him go off for eight for one sixty two.

1004
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson had a long touchdown called back by an

1005
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: offensive pass interference. But if you can win and be

1006
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: dominant offensively on a day where he only had twenty

1007
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: seven yards and Hockinson is going crazy, shows you're doing

1008
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: something right.

1009
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 5: They have the right coach.

1010
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell has the most one score wins in the

1011
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: entire NFL since he was hired in twenty and twenty two.

1012
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: You know who has the worst record in one score

1013
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: games since twenty twenty two. It's right there for you, guys, Shanahan,

1014
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: It's right there for you guys.

1015
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 5: It's part of this game. It all connects. That's why

1016
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 5: you gotta get a new coach.

1017
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: Let's go, It's time for the Sunday Drive, presented by

1018
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: the all new hybrid Toyota Camry. Yeah, let's go to

1019
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: Indianapolis where one of the best coaches in the league

1020
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: was visiting.

1021
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 5: Jared Lean's in. There's the snap, Jared hands it to

1022
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 5: Gibbs over the right side, trying to get to the edge,

1023
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 5: will touchdown.

1024
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 8: Detroit Lyons felt the contact just kept going outside.

1025
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 6: Until he found an opening and he did second touchdown

1026
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 6: of the day for Jamiir Gibbs.

1027
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: Some days it's a David Montgomery day, some days it's

1028
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: a Jamir Gibbs day.

1029
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 5: Usually it's both.

1030
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: This was the ninth game where they both scored a touchdown,

1031
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: which is absolutely outrageous. But the fact that Jamiir Gibbs

1032
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: is one of the best players on the field at

1033
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: any time that he is on the field made a

1034
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: huge difference in a twenty four to six Lions victory

1035
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: over the Colts. That was Dan Miller from WXYT Lomas

1036
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: Brown in the booth as well, And this was a game, guys,

1037
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: that didn't have to be as one sided as it was.

1038
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: When you watched it, it didn't seem like they were

1039
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: that uneven. But the crazy difference, I think, if you

1040
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: just wanted to pick one, was how the Lions are

1041
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: so good at running the ball that they can run

1042
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: the ball on third and long three different times in

1043
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: this game.

1044
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 5: They did so.

1045
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: The first time it was part of a drive with

1046
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs where he hits a third and run long.

1047
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: I think it was third and eight on that one,

1048
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: and he gets the first down and they just ride

1049
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: him all the way to the end zone five straight.

1050
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs plays, he scores a touchdown. Second quarter. This

1051
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: is Montgomery play third and six. You give it to Montgomery.

1052
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: He just knocks people off them and yeah, maybe they're

1053
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: running to set up the fourth down, but they didn't

1054
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: even need it.

1055
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 5: He converts.

1056
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: They give him the ball two plays later for the touchdown,

1057
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: reward him. And then late in the game that touchdown

1058
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: call we heard was actually a third and five from

1059
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: the fourteen and the game from the six rather, and

1060
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: the game was still up in the air.

1061
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 5: It was fourteen to six.

1062
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: It was a one score game, and they're scoring touchdowns

1063
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: and they're converting third and long. Shook by handing the

1064
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: ball off. They have so many different ways to win,

1065
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: but literally no other team in the NFL is winning

1066
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: like that.

1067
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 4: Well, it starts with their offensive line, which we have

1068
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: known is one of the best units in the NFL.

1069
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 4: We've known that since last year. They protect Jared Goff well,

1070
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 4: they open rushing lanes, and they have two phenomenal backs

1071
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 4: to take advantage of that. And like you said, sometimes

1072
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 4: this is Jamir Gibs day and sometimes the day, but

1073
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: Dave Montgomery did today was Jamir GiB day. But the

1074
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 4: fact that you have that at your disposal frees you

1075
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: up to be unpredictable on a passing down. For most teams,

1076
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 4: it could be a running down for you. This is

1077
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: also very much just a classic Lions win. The score

1078
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 4: might not indicate it because they only won by eighteen

1079
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 4: you know air quotes. But at the same time they

1080
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: go for almost four hundred yards of offense, they convert

1081
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 4: nine to fifteen third downs, and they dominate time of

1082
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 4: possession by fourteen minutes. Like that's what you can do

1083
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 4: when you run the ball.

1084
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: Well.

1085
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 4: Oh and by the way, Jared Goff, master of finding

1086
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 4: guys open over the middle of the field. He goes

1087
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: fifteen to sixteen for one eighty five when targeting the

1088
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 4: middle third of the.

1089
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 7: Field, when is over expected of plus sixteen.

1090
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 4: Like, if there's one thing you take away from the Lions,

1091
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 4: it's the middle third of the field. They didn't do it.

1092
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: They didn't stop the run. Of course, the Lions are

1093
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: going to win this way. It's just that they had

1094
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 4: a possession and on downs on the Indian Apple was

1095
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 4: fourteen that could have produced a touchdown or at least

1096
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 4: a field goal. That's why the score comes so close.

1097
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 4: You know, even an eighteen point different still feels kind

1098
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 4: of close for this Lions team because of how badly

1099
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: they've blown teams out. This is who they are. They're

1100
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 4: ten to one. They're a great football team, and they're

1101
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 4: a buzz saw. Like another terms, they're a wagon.

1102
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 5: Right.

1103
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 4: This is a team that is gonna give everybody problems,

1104
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 4: including the Indianapolis Colts.

1105
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 5: I think the Colts defense played well.

1106
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: I think they even played like well enough to win

1107
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: a different sort of game if the offense had gone

1108
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: on some longer drives. You mentioned how they they stopped

1109
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: the Lions on a fourth down in the red zone,

1110
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: which you just don't see too much, but yeah, it

1111
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: was kind of like they were so worried about the

1112
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 1: middle of the field. You have the linebackers playing back

1113
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: on third down and it still didn't help. And the

1114
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: Lions kept looking at that and they're like, if you're

1115
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: not gonna play big upfront against us, defensively, we're gonna

1116
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: run in these situations all the time, and we're good enough,

1117
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna hit it.

1118
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: It works out for them.

1119
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: The Colts, by the way, have three players on their

1120
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: team with over one hundred tackles now in this game,

1121
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: which is crazy.

1122
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 2: At week twelve where.

1123
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: They got a great play from Layatu Latu was a

1124
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: scary play for the Lions because not only did Jared

1125
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: Goff fumble, but Taylor Decker gets rolled up I think

1126
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: within ten plays. Also, the cornerback Carlton Davis leaves the

1127
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: game with a nider. He was on the bike, he

1128
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: said afterwards. He's able to stand and walk on it.

1129
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: But you have to watch it out for those guys

1130
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: for the game coming up on Thanksgiving with a quick turnaround,

1131
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: dealing with injuries in this one, but a solid game

1132
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: by a Colts defense. In the offense, it's been what

1133
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: it's been kind of all year, whether it's Anthony Richardson

1134
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: or Joe Flacco boom or bust. A lot of shots downfield,

1135
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 3: a lot of plays called back due to penalty as well.

1136
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 3: Josh Downs had a huge completion they got wiped away.

1137
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 3: Richardson just missed Peers for what could have been a

1138
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 3: touchdown earlier in the game. It's just a very just

1139
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 3: a high variance situation with Indy at all times on

1140
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: offense where they're limited possession wise here and the best

1141
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 3: possessions they do have, they make mistakes in them.

1142
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: It's so funny, like each week looking at his Anthony

1143
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: Richardson's average up to the target, it was over thirteen

1144
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: in this game and he only completed eleven passes out

1145
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: of twenty eight, but he did it for one hundred

1146
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: and seventy two yards. This was a better version of

1147
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: the game that got him bench where I said, if

1148
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: you watch the tape, he looked much better than that,

1149
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: cause I actually thought Richardson played well enough today as well.

1150
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 5: Here's what happened to them.

1151
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: Three plays called back from penalty, Ogletree dropped a sure

1152
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: touchdown which really changed the game, and they had another

1153
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: drop in a big spot. And then there was another

1154
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: Ashton duel and catch where it was a nice throw

1155
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: to the sideline and he does the Xavier Worthy thing

1156
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: where he doesn't get his feet coordinated, and so the

1157
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: passing game I think could have been a lot better.

1158
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: Josh Downs left with an injury at one point but

1159
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: was able to come back. Same thing with Michael Pittman

1160
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: who finishes six for ninety six. That guy is just

1161
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: so tough. But they're just not going to go anywhere

1162
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: if they can't get Jonathan Taylor going. And Taylor was

1163
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: eleven for thirty five today. They used Richardson in the

1164
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: running game pretty effectively when they needed to early. But

1165
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: if Jonathan Taylor in that part of the running game

1166
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: isn't working and it's hard against the Lions, then they're

1167
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: just not gonna be good enough. One of the reasons

1168
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: it's not working the Lions are starting three rookie offensive

1169
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: linemen now, partly because of injuries. It was a third rounder,

1170
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: a fourth rounder, and I believe an undrafted free agent.

1171
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: That's tough. Richardson was under a lot of pressure today.

1172
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: Alie McNeil absolutely dominated his matchup against oh Man.

1173
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 5: I wrote it down. I felt bad for this young man.

1174
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: Maybe I won't even say his name because it was

1175
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: just sad how bad he was. It was Dalton Tucker,

1176
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: who is a real person for the Colts. Did I

1177
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: just threw it out there? Sorry, Dalton, wherever you are.

1178
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the injuries. David Montgomery left with a

1179
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: shoulder injury but said he'll be fine for next week.

1180
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: You mentioned Carlton Davis, Taylor, Decker returned to the game.

1181
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: Kleiff Raymon, who's an important player for them, had a

1182
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: foot injury, and I think it might be something that

1183
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: keeps him out a little while, certainly out for Thanksgiving,

1184
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: but now standing performance there by the Dolph. The Lion

1185
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: there at ten and one, the best Lions team in

1186
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 1: history through eleven games, and the Colts are at five

1187
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: and seven. Not out of it in the AFC South

1188
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: if the Texans keep blowing it. That was the Sunday

1189
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Drive presented by the all new hybrid Toyota Camray. Whatever

1190
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: your vibe, it's a camera vibe. Learn more at Toyota

1191
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: dot com slash Camry. Let's go to MetLife Stadium. Certainly

1192
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito would help the vibes, wouldn't he.

1193
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 5: Here's the snap, second down and goal.

1194
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 8: Bucks have two timeouts running the ball, Who's Baker may

1195
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 8: He fakes the past cruncher was left.

1196
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 2: To no one touchdown.

1197
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 9: Baker Mayfield pullula cafe and flew into the Absolve about

1198
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 9: that touchdown number three rushing for Baker Mayfield this season?

1199
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: Look at him cheering on the Bucks fans.

1200
00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: That was Jeene Deckerhoff on Wfusen. Yeah, couldn't have known

1201
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: that Baker was doing the Tommy Cutlets celebration. That is

1202
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: what he was doing after a very Tommy DeVito run there,

1203
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield doing at all. Thirty to seven Bucks come

1204
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: off their bye week and do exactly what they would want,

1205
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: total domination, about as one sided a first half as

1206
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: they could have possibly had, and then they just cruised

1207
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: to a victory where Tommy DeVito ends up with one

1208
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty nine yards almost all in deep garbage time.

1209
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: The first half of this game shook two hundred and

1210
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: ninety yards to sixty four Baker completions, seven nineteen Giants

1211
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: plays seventeen Bucky Irving had more receiving yards I believe

1212
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: at the time than the Giants had total yards at halftime.

1213
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,479
Speaker 1: So it just did it looked like a non conference game.

1214
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: It was a bigger like one. Like you, I watched

1215
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: a little Georgia U Mass just for because I'm a sicko,

1216
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: and this was way more one sided than Georgia U Mass.

1217
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that wasn't a surprisingly competitive game between Georgia UMass

1218
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 4: by the way.

1219
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, Baker eight.

1220
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: For ten on passes of ten plus air yards for

1221
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 4: one seventy two. Okay, like very lopsided If people think

1222
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 4: that the Buccaneers are what their record says they are,

1223
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 4: they're wrong. This is a much better team than four

1224
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 4: and six are now five and six. They've just been

1225
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 4: banged up like crazy and they're starting to get healthy

1226
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: at the right time. And they played a team that

1227
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 4: basically they kicked while they were down. Like Tommy DeVito

1228
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 4: comes in and it's been a weird week for the

1229
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 4: Giants with the whole Daniel Jones playing safety on scout team,

1230
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 4: then reading the statement, then being gone the next day.

1231
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 4: Tommy DeVito is the next best option in the mind

1232
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 4: of Brian Dable, and this is what you get. An

1233
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 4: unproductive offense, a lopsided loss with a Buccaneers team that

1234
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 4: needs a launch pad. They need a little bit of

1235
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 4: good feeling going as they get into the stretch run

1236
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: in the you know, late in the season, as they

1237
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 4: try to reach the playoffs. This is the team to

1238
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 4: play to get back on track and get the momentum

1239
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 4: going in your right direction. And of course it starts

1240
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 4: with Baker Mayfield, who you know, as much as people

1241
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 4: like to hate on him, he's still having a phenomenal year.

1242
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 7: In fact, I think I believe he's on pace to

1243
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 7: best his career numbers.

1244
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 5: Straw Man, who are the people hating on? Is it me?

1245
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 5: Because if it is me, I don't need you to

1246
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 5: be saying people like doing I'm sitting.

1247
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 7: Right here, beryll jump through this screen right now now.

1248
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 5: I gotta give him credit. He's playing there, it is.

1249
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: I actually think he's been playing better Patrick since Mike

1250
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: Evans and Chris Godwin got hurt. And now you get

1251
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: Mike Evans back, and he made a difference in this

1252
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: game five for sixty eight. Couple of nice chunk plays

1253
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: and their helmet.

1254
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: No, no, definitely in this Giants team, as you mentioned,

1255
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 3: is completely dead in the water. There's I mean, well,

1256
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: well we'll get to that discussion with because I know

1257
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 3: we have Molague neighbors sound very frustrated the league neighbors

1258
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 3: who wound up eventually getting nine targets. But we'll hear

1259
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 3: from Alik on when those targets came.

1260
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 5: I mean, you're a host, you could just start Yeah.

1261
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

1262
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: Let's hear Melik neighbors after the game, answering questions about

1263
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: his participation as well.

1264
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 13: Is his frustration I'm Tyler going out dre and losing

1265
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 13: like it's just that. I mean, oh no, bro, go

1266
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 13: out there, first second quarter, don't get the ball, start

1267
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 13: getting targets at DN. I mean, I can't do thating

1268
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 13: stargeting the ball when it's thirty zero to do.

1269
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 12: Why in the first half are they not looking at you.

1270
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: I don't know Tyler Daves about that.

1271
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 7: Hmmm, it's the gum smacking that really does.

1272
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that gum is getting chewed off.

1273
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 7: Hard, eight pieces of double bubble in his mouth.

1274
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: But and again we got the full context there, because

1275
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: I think the overall reaction is gonna be Elik Neighbors

1276
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: firing shots at Brian day ball. It's a legitimate response,

1277
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: like you're gonna ask me why the ball's coming to

1278
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: me when the quarterback is getting released.

1279
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: Now we've got a.

1280
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 3: Second year guy and Tommy DeVito coming in throwing me

1281
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: the ball. Why are you asking me this question?

1282
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 12: Oh?

1283
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: Those other people you should be directing these questions towards.

1284
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he made it fairly clear because he said, well,

1285
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: you can see the quarterback isn't the issue here because

1286
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: we look the same today as we did with Daniel Jones,

1287
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: to which I would say, not that bass, Yes, but

1288
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: the position is the issue, Malik, like neither quarter both

1289
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are the issue. You're right, it didn't get better

1290
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: with Tommy DeVito. I would argue it got a little worse.

1291
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 7: But Lake's biased though.

1292
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 4: He's biased because they just got rid of the quarterback

1293
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 4: who leaned disproportionately on him for the first half of

1294
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 4: the season. Of course he's mad he's not getting targets.

1295
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 4: He got a ton with Daniel Jones.

1296
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: That's true, but in the first half of these games

1297
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't as much and it didn't matter. The Giants

1298
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: defense was just getting dog walked down the field. I

1299
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: love Bucky Irving. He ends up with one hundred and

1300
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: fifty six yards from scrimmage. He's doing some great blocking

1301
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: uncertain pass places, which is supposed to be the thing

1302
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: that he couldn't do at all. But I at least

1303
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: saw one one great rep today. Rashad White is one

1304
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: of the best pass blockers in the league, and he

1305
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: ends up with a touchdown today and active but man,

1306
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: Irving just makes guys miss I. I gotta go check

1307
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: out the PFF's elusive rate after this, because I just

1308
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: have to imagine he is up there near the top

1309
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: with Josh Jacobs in terms of forcing miss tackles. He's

1310
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: electric And to give you, guys, your Baker Mayfield flowers.

1311
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: He was so good in this game. I don't even

1312
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: want to point out any of the plays in the

1313
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: first half where they were as dominant a team as

1314
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: I've seen all season on both sides of the ball.

1315
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to point out a couple of plays

1316
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: in the second half. There was a third and eight

1317
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: early where he's dropping back into the end zone and

1318
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: his pass protection is holding up great, and that's part

1319
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: of the reason why he's having such a good season.

1320
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: But he is just so calm back there looking through

1321
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: his reads. They're not there. And then he scrambles and

1322
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: that where he gets that nice block, just like a

1323
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 1: great run. Then third and eleven later on that drive,

1324
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: just a few plays letter the type of situation we're

1325
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: saying that maybe Baker's not built for that. I'm saying

1326
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: that sometimes he's not built for that third and eleven

1327
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: straight dropback. They actually don't protect him well. He hits

1328
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: a dart right over the middle to a man named

1329
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Miller while he's getting absolutely clobbered by Dexter Lawrence.

1330
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: That's play number two, and then play number three is

1331
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: the fifty six yard run by Bucky Irving where Baker

1332
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: Mayfield is out as his lead blocker, out running big

1333
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving and making a pretty nice block where he

1334
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 1: peels back on the play. I mean this, dude, he's

1335
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: getting it done. He's not an MVP candidate, but he's

1336
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. I got it that last play. That last

1337
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: play was so good. And that's what Baker does. He's

1338
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: been doing that for years.

1339
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 4: He'll run with the play and sometimes get involved in

1340
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 4: the blocking, but he's so far ahead of Bucky that

1341
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 4: he's going, come on, come on, we'll go.

1342
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: It was really good and been saying it for a while. Here,

1343
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: the Bucks really have an opportunity to go win the

1344
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: NFC South, and now with that Washington loss, it just

1345
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: puts it in my mind more that second wild card

1346
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: might be up for grabs too. So even if Atlanta

1347
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: is winning games, the Bucks, they are in this mix.

1348
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: They have a good schedule coming up. They stay in

1349
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: the division next week in Carolina. But wait, maybe going

1350
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: to Carolina isn't so easy anymore.

1351
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 9: Well, Carolina call time out placement is down, Schrader's kick

1352
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 9: is up.

1353
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 6: Traders kick is God, God God Stretcher Schrader on a

1354
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 6: thirty one yard field goal, and the Chiefs walk it

1355
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 6: off with the field goal, winning thirty to twenty seven

1356
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 6: to get their tenth victory of the twenty twenty four campaign.

1357
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: Mitch Holtis wdaf if it's Sunday, it's a Mitch Holts

1358
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: call on the last play of the game.

1359
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 5: And the Chiefs are winning at this.

1360
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: Point, they're so bored that they're just coming up with

1361
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: new players that could come up with game winning plays.

1362
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: Spencer Strader like, that's a guy we definitely heard of

1363
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: three weeks ago. Sure, thirty to twenty seven, Chiefs get

1364
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: it done. Bryce Young plays, well, all those tiktoks you

1365
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: were telling me, I'm an old man, Patrick about that.

1366
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: We're saying Bryce Young and the Panthers they were gonna

1367
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: be the team that ends the Chiefs you know, winning streak.

1368
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: Of course, the streak ends last week, but they almost

1369
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:33,959
Speaker 1: got this.

1370
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 3: W They almost did, and the Chiefs give up twenty

1371
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: seven points to the Panthers after giving up their first

1372
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 3: thirty point regular season game.

1373
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: To the Buffalo Bills.

1374
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 3: Where there's some concerns there, but things started off because

1375
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 3: you said, Greg, coming into this game, you wanted the

1376
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: Chiefs to go again, go down the field and score,

1377
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: and that's how they started. There's a samaj p Ron

1378
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: kickoff return fifty six yards and then the Panthers blow

1379
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 3: a coverage three plays later on a Noah Great touchdown.

1380
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 3: Has another touchdown later. This game's got four scores in

1381
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 3: the last two games. And then the Panthers have drives

1382
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 3: that both kind of fizzle out. They endo with field goals.

1383
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 3: But then finally the Panthers defense, after really not making

1384
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: plays in the game. Seven p fifty six to go

1385
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 3: in the first half, Jadavian Clowney wins off the lone

1386
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 3: of scrimmage retraces to get Mahomes on a sack.

1387
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,959
Speaker 2: They're forced to take a straighter field goal there.

1388
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: The Panthers defense got some key stops as the game

1389
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 3: goes on and Bryce heats up. He hits David Moore

1390
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 3: on a long play, then converts to David Moore on

1391
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 3: the touchdown. They're down eight late, get the touchdown and

1392
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 3: a two point conversion after Mahomes, who thankfully they lose.

1393
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 3: Jadavian standards in this game was a tough one. He

1394
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 3: lands on his head. They get charged the time out

1395
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: there he was going out of bounds. I'm not quite

1396
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: sure what happened because the play was out of bounds.

1397
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 3: They forced a runoff on the Panthers towards the end

1398
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 3: of the first half, but that being side the point,

1399
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: they do get Adam thielenback. That was the thankful part,

1400
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 3: that mentioning.

1401
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 5: And that Sanders is okay.

1402
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: He was brought to a hospital with a neck injury,

1403
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: but they said he's out of the hospital, has movement,

1404
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: and that's great to.

1405
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 3: Hear and good for him. But again, an underman team

1406
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 3: led by Bryce Young, who was very very good against

1407
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 3: Bags today, a lot of beataway passes in the face

1408
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 3: of the blitz. They got the two point conversion as

1409
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 3: Chuba Hubbard goes in after he forces a second try

1410
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 3: on that because Bryce keeps the play alive, throws a

1411
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 3: pass that gets called for pass interference. Then they come

1412
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 3: back and give it to Cuba. There but a minute

1413
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 3: fifty six seconds with number fifteen on the other side.

1414
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 3: The Panthers secondary goes back to not making a play

1415
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 3: and the second team just allows Patrick Mahomes to go

1416
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 3: on a thirty plus yard run down the sideline.

1417
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: Late in the game for some reason.

1418
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hear that Patrick setting us up perfectly once again.

1419
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,439
Speaker 5: He's a host Oh Holmes.

1420
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 9: First and ten steps up into the pocket being chased.

1421
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 9: But now he's gonna scramble to the near side. Fifty

1422
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 9: cuts inside.

1423
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 6: Forty five, took the sideline out of bounds with one

1424
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 6: of the longest runs in his career down to the

1425
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 6: Carolina twenty two yard line.

1426
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: That was awesome. Five runs for sixty yards in this game.

1427
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: He's had more rushing value this season than any season

1428
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: of his career because they've needed it, and that was

1429
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: a big spot.

1430
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 5: That was the fastest I've seen him.

1431
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: Look in a while, Like, I do want to ask

1432
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: you Patrick, because you watch this game the closest I

1433
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: was begging. I even sent out a social clip about it.

1434
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 5: Can you give me?

1435
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: Can you give me a blowout that didn't happen? But

1436
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: can you give me some fun? Can you give me

1437
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: some offensive fireworks?

1438
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 5: Now?

1439
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: On one hand, you look, they only had eight possessions

1440
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: and they scored thirty points. It's tough for me to

1441
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: say they didn't deliver there, But ye didn't have any

1442
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: many big plays.

1443
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 5: It's like all these long, slow drives.

1444
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: It's twenty seven first downs but only thirty nine you know,

1445
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety one yards.

1446
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 5: Did they deliver on what I asked?

1447
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: Did they?

1448
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 5: Did they come through?

1449
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: There was the big blow covers to Noah Gray.

1450
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 3: There was a nice ball to new Hopkins that he

1451
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: was able to force a pass interference call on. But

1452
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 3: ultimately a lot of what you saw throughout the game

1453
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 3: from the Carolina Panthers defense and the Chiefs offense was

1454
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: defenders dropping back into deep zones and watching Patrick Mahomes

1455
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 3: and then late in the game, Patrick Mahomes just the sides. Yeah,

1456
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna run here because you guys are

1457
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 3: just standing back there looking at me.

1458
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 7: Why are we dropping in the deep zones. It's not

1459
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 7: twenty nineteen. This is the bulk and stricter Chiefs.

1460
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 5: They don't go deep.

1461
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 4: They go deep once a game, maybe twice, and Xavier

1462
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 4: Worthy either doesn't catch it, Mahomes messagehim, or he catches

1463
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 4: it and he steps out of bounds before he gets

1464
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 4: both feet in.

1465
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 7: What are you doing, Carolina, This is a winnable game.

1466
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 4: Bryce is playing, well, why are you taking that defensive approach?

1467
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 7: Come on, shame on you, Yeah.

1468
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 2: I don't think they have the dudes.

1469
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 3: I don't think they feel comfortable with the duds as

1470
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 3: they have back there to be more aggressive.

1471
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: For well, the most surprising thing of the day is

1472
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: that the Panthers had eight quarterback hits in five sacks

1473
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, if I wanted to be a

1474
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: Chiefs hater, and I would compare them a little bit

1475
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: to a team during the Patriots dynasty. And this is

1476
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: a little extra this. I don't think it's quite this bad.

1477
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: It's not going to be this bad, but it'd be

1478
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen Patriots, which never were really an eight

1479
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: to oh team. They never a lot of that team.

1480
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: They ended up taking on water down the stretch. I

1481
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: don't think the Chiefs are going to do that, but

1482
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: I do think they have an increasing amount of problems

1483
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: for this team that do not look like a ten

1484
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: to one team. The offensive line, now it's a couple

1485
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: weeks of the defense, we'll see if that sticks.

1486
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 5: And the lack of.

1487
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: Explosion on offense just you know, it just might not

1488
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: be their year, but maybe they'll just crank it up

1489
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: at the end. I actually think they're getting a little

1490
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: tired of it like the weight of it all is

1491
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: getting to them.

1492
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 5: Let's listen to Patrick Mahomes after the game.

1493
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 10: You want to have some blowouts, you want to be

1494
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 10: a little calmer in the fourth quarter. But I've always

1495
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 10: said it's a good thing as you get to the

1496
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 10: playoffs and later in the season, just knowing that you've

1497
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 10: been in those moments before and knowing how to how

1498
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 10: to kind of attack it. But play by play and

1499
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 10: I'm making it too big of a moment. But no,

1500
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 10: I mean, I would say this morning, but I would

1501
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 10: love to win a game, not by the very last play.

1502
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: He's gotten used to it, and they are so good

1503
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: at doing that. They have won thirteen straight one score games.

1504
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: That is one away from the all time NFL record.

1505
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: Before moving on, let's show that next gen spray chart

1506
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: of Bryce Young and let's hear about his day against

1507
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: a really good defense. I love seeing that he's pushing

1508
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 1: the ball and completing passes all over the field. It's

1509
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: not all right near the line of scrimmage. It's a

1510
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: lot of plus ten intermediate throws, a few down the

1511
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,520
Speaker 1: field against the Blitz's numbers against the Blitz Patrick were fantastic.

1512
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 3: Now and they were and then we talk about the injuries, right,

1513
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 3: So that's with David Moore getting ten of those targets,

1514
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 3: Adam Thielen gets foured, Xavier Lagett has six of them,

1515
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 3: including one where Xavier Lget did the Xavier Worthy thing,

1516
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 3: did the receiver that we were mentioned earlier for the

1517
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,959
Speaker 3: Ashton Doolan thing where he doesn't make the play along

1518
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 3: the sideline but has the space to do so. Where

1519
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 3: you turn the clock back a few weeks, and this

1520
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 3: is Bryce Young is completely non viable, right, This is

1521
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 3: not a quarterback that's ever going to amount to anything

1522
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 3: in the NFL. And then we see moments like this

1523
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 3: which are kind of reminiscent to late season last year

1524
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 3: where Bryce had solid starts, including that game against Green

1525
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 3: Bay late where he foes for three hundred yards. Here

1526
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: it's two sixty three, and not to not to standard

1527
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 3: to cape for the guy, but just to watch and

1528
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 3: consider the way that we evaluate young quarterbacks in the league,

1529
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 3: to perhaps pick different criteria to before we make declarative

1530
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: statements about the long term viability of any quarterback. This

1531
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 3: performance Brian Bryce Young again in a lot right, but

1532
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 3: a loss in which he got he tied the game

1533
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 3: in the final moments over against one of the best

1534
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 3: quarterbacks we've.

1535
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: Ever Yeah, I said, the key for him right now

1536
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: is just being able to do it consistently. That his

1537
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,839
Speaker 1: games before the buye showed he can do it, because

1538
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: they have absolutely changed this offense around. I give Canalis credit,

1539
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: but I give Bryce Young the most credit, and he

1540
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: is changing his career now because if he can continue

1541
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: this type of play down the stretch, he will be

1542
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: their starter next year and they will really have something

1543
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: to build off. It is eleven for fourteen for one

1544
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five yards and a touchdown against the

1545
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: Blitz and hit nine throws over ten air yards today.

1546
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: That not saying he's Anthony Richardson quite yet, but he

1547
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: was pushing the ball down the field. You know who

1548
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: isn't doing that too much lately is to a tongue

1549
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: of Ioloa. But my god, is he playing quarterback?

1550
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 5: Well? After the break, we are gonna hear the man

1551
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 5: in Miami.

1552
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: Second and eight from Miami's Dolphins from the twenty three

1553
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 3: following the turnover right running.

1554
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 2: Back back back to him to.

1555
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:17,480
Speaker 5: Walla Walla touchdown. Miami, what a run by Walla.

1556
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: That's what you do.

1557
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 8: When somebody turns the ball over, you go down and

1558
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 8: you score them.

1559
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 1: Dolphins did a lot of that on Sunday, Jimmy Seppalo

1560
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: and Joe Rose for WBGG. Jalen Wattles twenty three yard

1561
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: touchdown part of a thirty four to fifteen victory for

1562
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. One thing I really respect about this Dolphins

1563
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: team lately, Nick, is they're not messing around.

1564
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 5: It's one sided.

1565
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: They're winning the game early, they're keeping it going, and

1566
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: they're they're letting no doubt who's the better team here.

1567
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the final score of thirty four to fifteen,

1568
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 4: it wasn't even that close, guys.

1569
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 7: It was thirty one to nothing.

1570
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,520
Speaker 4: Late third, it was twenty four to nothing just before halftime.

1571
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 4: The Patriots had one drive of relevance and then the

1572
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 4: Dolphins just took him behind the woodshed I mean, just

1573
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 4: pass after pass, Jayalen Waddle hooking up with two on

1574
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 4: Tonguo Iloa. They're racking up one hundred and forty four yards.

1575
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,799
Speaker 4: The offense looked the closest it's looked to the previous

1576
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:16,799
Speaker 4: versions of the Dolphins.

1577
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, ty twenty.

1578
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 4: Three, twenty twenty two that it has all year, and

1579
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 4: I know it's the Patriots. I know it's not a

1580
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 4: great measuring stick or a litmus test, but it was

1581
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 4: the first time after seeing them take everything underneath in

1582
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 4: the week, you know, the week prior. Now they're opening

1583
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 4: it up and tuas drop it back and dropping dimes

1584
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 4: intermediate level. He's looking deep a couple of times. He's

1585
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 4: got easy touchdown passes to Devon h Chan. Everything worked

1586
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 4: for them. Don't look at it as a measuring stick again,

1587
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 4: because it's the Patriots, but it is a very encouraging

1588
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 4: sign for a team that at five and six needs

1589
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 4: to become this type of offense.

1590
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 7: First time I've seen it all year. Great day for them.

1591
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't want to go too crazy because I

1592
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: had checked out, like the ad out for this game

1593
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: and it was it was still only five point six

1594
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 1: yards for Tua, but it's good to hear that he

1595
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: did have a few more throw down the field and

1596
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: he's getting rid of the ball so quickly two point

1597
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 1: three to four average time to throw, and some of

1598
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: those do go down the field.

1599
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 5: They're just tough to deal with.

1600
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 1: Wattle, according to Mike McDaniel, has made a lot of

1601
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: progress this year, even though he hasn't been getting as

1602
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 1: many targets, so it's nice to see that rewarded eight

1603
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: for one forty four in a touchdown.

1604
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 5: John new Smith has another big day.

1605
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: John new Smith revenge game and he is a big

1606
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: on fire. He's a big part of their offense because

1607
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: they use so much twelve personnel, which is with two

1608
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: tight ends on the field, and he's really turned into

1609
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: their third down, middle of the field third receiver that

1610
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: they used to try to get out of a wide receiver,

1611
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: but he's really turned into that player for them.

1612
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, he absolutely has.

1613
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 4: It's really what it's been his run after catching, situational

1614
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 4: playmaking like in the red zone. They love to go

1615
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 4: to him in a number of different ways, whether it

1616
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 4: could be a litt dump off screen or it's something

1617
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 4: where it's a quick pass like he's a weapon and

1618
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 4: he can be a weapon beyond that, he had that

1619
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 4: long touchdown catch last week where he caught the ball

1620
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 4: and nobody was there and he ran off to the

1621
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 4: end zone for a touchdown.

1622
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 7: This is of have been who he's been.

1623
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 4: This is who he was supposed to be when he

1624
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 4: signed with the Patriots after he left Tennessee and he

1625
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 4: never really became that guy, and he's really filling that

1626
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 4: void that they needed it tight End since they basically

1627
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 4: let Mika Sicki walk and he never quite filled that

1628
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 4: void anyway for them. So this is he's kind of

1629
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 4: like a Gerald Everett comp I think, but more productive

1630
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 4: obviously than ever it's been in his last couple stops.

1631
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 7: And it's really helped the.

1632
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 4: Rest of their offense flourish because Tua, like you said,

1633
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 4: the A dot is not super deep, right, But at

1634
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 4: the same time, you have so many different options beyond

1635
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 4: the receivers, Like we're not seeing them hit Tyreek for

1636
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 4: fifty yard bombs right now, right, But because you have

1637
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 4: the tight End involved, you can then survey the entire food.

1638
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 4: They have many different options and it's just it's worked

1639
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 4: out better for them. And again it's only the Patriots,

1640
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 4: but if they're going to get on.

1641
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: A run, the Patriots have been competitive the last few weeks.

1642
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: It's the best anyone's handled the Patriots in a while.

1643
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it wasn't even close, as you guys mentioned,

1644
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 3: and I think that the overall the big difference other

1645
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 3: than Tua being there and then being allowed to run

1646
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 3: this offense that we've seen for the past few years

1647
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 3: is it's always putting defenders in conflict. And the interesting

1648
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 3: conflict that I saw today was Christian Gonzales being in

1649
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 3: his zone and leaving Tyreek Hill to go to John

1650
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 3: hu Smith and ultimately the ball gets to Tyreek Hill

1651
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 3: and like, this is the world we're in in twenty

1652
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 3: twenty four where Tyreek Hill is having covered drawn away

1653
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 3: from him by John hus Smith. It's just the kind

1654
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 3: of bind that this offense can be. And when everybody's

1655
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 3: making plays, when a Chan's out, why Jalen Wattle has

1656
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 3: his best game all season long. That comes today where

1657
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 3: I was wondering what the injury concerns were. I'm going

1658
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 3: and looking at Jalen Waddle's next Gen stats performance to

1659
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 3: see what the speed drops off. No real difference in

1660
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 3: that capacity today, just having the production to go with it.

1661
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 3: With ah Chan and John Husmith and Waddle all operating

1662
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 3: around the line of scrimmage very well. That there's just

1663
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 3: too much to deal with if you can't get pressure

1664
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 3: onto it.

1665
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: We don't have a Quarterback Island meeting until a week

1666
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: from Tuesday because of the Thanksgiving week. The schedule is

1667
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: a little different just in case you guys were curious,

1668
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: but I'll just put it out there now. I mean,

1669
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: Tua needs to be on that island less something crazy changes.

1670
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: He is playing quarterback at the extremely high level. McDaniel

1671
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: thinks he's taken a big step too since coming off

1672
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: that injury.

1673
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 5: I agree.

1674
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: I think that he's playing the best football of his

1675
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: entire career.

1676
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 5: And now the defense.

1677
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: You know, we had Anthony Weaver on the show and

1678
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 1: we talked about like that front that they have. They're

1679
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: getting done, not just with Stealer and Klays Campbell, Chop

1680
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: Robinson has been killing it in terms of their pass

1681
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: rush win rate. He had one and a half sacks today,

1682
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of quarterback hits. And I know that the

1683
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: offensive line for the Patriots isn't great, but the game

1684
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: slowing down for the quarterback and the defense coming along,

1685
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: this is a dangerous team. Even at five and six.

1686
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: I'd feel better about them in the NFC, but they

1687
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: have a really interesting Thanksgiving games shook and if you

1688
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: can get the defense married up to the offense, I

1689
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: think they can be anyone including the Packers.

1690
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Chopping think's gonna be a huge part of it.

1691
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 4: He's got three and a half sacks over his last

1692
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 4: four games. It seems like, like you said, the game

1693
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 4: is slowing down for him.

1694
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 5: He had eight.

1695
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 4: Pressures today on twenty six pass rushes here, the fifth

1696
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 4: highest pressure rate by any player in a game this season.

1697
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 4: That is the opposite of hitting the rookie wall. That

1698
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 4: is somebody finally settling in and coming through in a

1699
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 4: big spot because you know, remember they lost Jalen Phillips

1700
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 4: to injury. Again, he's got to be in there and

1701
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 4: make a difference. Him Steeler and even Emmanuel Augba on

1702
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 4: the opposite side. You got Kalays Campbell as well. That's

1703
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 4: kind of a sneaky, interesting front and they can tie

1704
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 4: that together. Then again they can go on that run.

1705
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 5: And he concerns about Drake may in this performance.

1706
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: I was hearing some Buzzy played well in the second half,

1707
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: but until this team sounded like they were a mess.

1708
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 4: It was garbage time stuff for him. The first drive

1709
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 4: was good, like he looked like he has for the

1710
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 4: last month. He's gonna be the guy like he's fine.

1711
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 4: He's playing on an island, speaking of quarterback island, He's

1712
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 4: playing on an island like he's just not being supported.

1713
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 4: He had no time to throw for much of this game.

1714
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 4: It was just a really rough go for the entire offense,

1715
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 4: not just him. They didn't run the ball well until

1716
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 4: the second half. They didn't do anything well until the

1717
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 4: second half when the game was already out of hand.

1718
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 4: Not concerned about him. Just a bummer that you don't

1719
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 4: get to see him make some highlight plays like we

1720
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 4: have in recent weeks.

1721
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to see Drod Mayo show some

1722
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: consistency out of his defense.

1723
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 5: As a coach.

1724
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 1: I think they've underperformed more defense than on offense this year,

1725
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: which I would not have expected coming into the season.

1726
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: I know there's been a lot of injuries, but a

1727
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 1: lot of sloppy play giving up a lot of big plays.

1728
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 5: They are at three and nine. The Dolphins have won

1729
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,480
Speaker 5: three straight. It's almost more annoying how unprepared Mike McDaniel

1730
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 5: had his team for the backup quarterback situation. This is

1731
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 5: absolutely a playoff team when Tua is on the field,

1732
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 5: and they might get there, but it's gonna be tougher

1733
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 5: because those Broncos they're not going away. Let's go to

1734
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 5: Vegas first.

1735
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: In goal Denver at the two.

1736
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 9: That bringing Nims in motion, Knicks design role to the right,

1737
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 9: throws back to the azel.

1738
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 6: Pass taught Courtland Sutton touchdown Denver beat to Cameron Richardson.

1739
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 5: Sutton his second touchdown reception of the game, his.

1740
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 2: Fifth of the season, and with five point thirty left

1741
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 2: in the fourth it's.

1742
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 3: Now Denver twenty five, Las Vegas sixteen.

1743
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: Courtlandton is outstanding football player, a receiver, a catcher of

1744
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: the football.

1745
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 5: Yes, this man is excellent at his craft.

1746
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: Our friend Chris Westling recognized it right away that this

1747
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton is going to be one of.

1748
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 5: The best receivers in the league.

1749
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: And he was had that injury and it's so great

1750
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: to see him have this second life a little bit

1751
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: with Russ and now it's happening for him with Bownicks

1752
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: twenty nine to nineteen. That was Dave Logan KOA. Broncos

1753
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: fall behind early Patrick, but they did what good teams do.

1754
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: They just kept climbing back and they end up winning

1755
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 1: somewhat comfortably.

1756
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 3: Yes, comfortably, and erasing the Raiders really in the second

1757
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 3: half where they go into the break down, they only

1758
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 3: had those four possessions. The Raiders had long slow, drawn

1759
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 3: out possessions. They limit the Broncos to field goals. But

1760
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 3: then in the second half that Broncos defense really kicks

1761
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 3: things in. Gardner Minshew has hit going to be out

1762
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 3: for the remainder of the season, where he goes down

1763
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 3: on his non throwing shoulder. It's a broken collarbone. Tough

1764
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 3: to see that happened for Gardner Minshew, who played well

1765
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 3: in spots in this game. Desmond Ritter comes in immediately

1766
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 3: turns the ball over. There was but over on the

1767
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 3: other side. Max Crosby played well, had some tackles for losses.

1768
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 3: He got a sack of bow Knicks, but really just

1769
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback and a coach and a play caller

1770
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 3: who trusts him. They didn't straight from the game plan

1771
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 3: at all. Not a lot of rushing to speak of.

1772
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 5: Now.

1773
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 3: Hill McLoughlin led the team with forty four yards, but

1774
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 3: John Payton trusts bow Nicks to make plays, and make

1775
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,719
Speaker 3: them he did with the aforementioned Courtland Sutton. Those two touchdowns,

1776
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 3: including the one that we heard there at the start,

1777
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 3: just a good division win, pulling away from a team

1778
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 3: that they're better than.

1779
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: No, he just hates fantasy owners, although I guess it

1780
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: wasn't his fault that Javonte Williams went negative two yards

1781
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: on eight carries.

1782
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 5: That's a rough one.

1783
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: Two catches for six yards estimate goes for fifteen yards. Yeah,

1784
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: like nothing on the ground, and then they find a

1785
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: way to win and that throw a knicks that from

1786
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: Nick to Sutton. He's really trusting his receivers. He doesn't

1787
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 1: look as good when he's under pressure what rookie quarterbacks do.

1788
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: But Sutton eight for ninety seven and those two touchdowns,

1789
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: and Devon Vailey's turned into a real two. Sean Payton man,

1790
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if when people say, well, he should

1791
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: be in the mix for Coach of the Year, sometimes

1792
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means because Coach of the

1793
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: Year you can only vote for one guy. So I

1794
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 1: don't think he's in the mix to be one guy.

1795
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 1: But if you were putting voting three guys, he's in

1796
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,520
Speaker 1: the mix to be one of the three guys. Maybe

1797
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: it's really impressive Nick, what they're doing. And he said

1798
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: something very smart, I think after the game, not that

1799
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: I need to tell him he smart. He said, even

1800
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: the elite teams, they probably only really have it, like thirteen,

1801
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 1: fourteen times a year. And what can What he was

1802
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: saying there is that they maybe didn't totally have it today,

1803
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: but that the elite teams, the good teams, they find

1804
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,799
Speaker 1: ways to maybe win on the days where they don't

1805
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: really have it, and maybe to his eye, they didn't

1806
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: totally have it for a chunk of this game, and

1807
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: then they got themselves together and they got a really

1808
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 1: important win. They're all gonna be big now they're seven

1809
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: and five.

1810
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they take care of business against a divisional opponent.

1811
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's a big thing. There's many times

1812
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 4: in many games. We just saw it twice this week

1813
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 4: where the last team, last place team in division beats

1814
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 4: the first place team in a division in a game

1815
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 4: that they shouldn't win. You know, Tennessee beating Houston and

1816
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 4: Cleveland beating Baltimore, and yet Denver doesn't fall victim to that.

1817
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 4: And that speaks to, you know, the job that Sean

1818
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 4: Payton has done, but especially what he's done with BONNICKX

1819
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 4: and I sound like a broken record at this point,

1820
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 4: but watching the way that they use him just it

1821
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 4: invigorates me because it gives me faith that coaches can

1822
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 4: coach to the strengths of their personnel and instead of

1823
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 4: trying to fit the personnel into their scheme. And that's

1824
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 4: exactly what he's done with all of these young guys

1825
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 4: like Troy Franklin's been up and down, but he's still

1826
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 4: part of the offense. Devon val is really coming on strong.

1827
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 4: And of course you have Courtland Sutton. The running game

1828
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 4: hasn't been there kind of for weeks really if you

1829
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 4: think about it, especially Javonte Williams, and yet they're still

1830
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 4: winning football games. They have a defense that's very good.

1831
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 4: We already know that. I'm very impressed. Would definitely put

1832
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 4: him in my top We should vote for like like

1833
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,480
Speaker 4: nominees like the Heisman, give us like finalists.

1834
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: Right, they do bring three coaches there, but they just

1835
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: do it based on who had the most votes, and

1836
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: it's always a little weird because sometimes it's like a

1837
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 1: guy who didn't have any votes. So they should make

1838
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 1: it like MVP, where you put a ballot of three

1839
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: guys for every position, because it's just more exciting and

1840
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: more people get a little pop. And if bon Nix

1841
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: is now going like three for five on throws over

1842
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: twenty yards air yards, like he gets the credit, and

1843
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,799
Speaker 1: Sean Payton gets a little credit. Steam's not going away, Patrick,

1844
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: and that's why we had him as our survivor.

1845
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 2: Pick about that.

1846
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 3: Yes, and we do just that, survive on a late push,

1847
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 3: trying to figure things out, trying to hold through the

1848
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 3: task given to us up by the listeners of this

1849
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 3: esteem show as well as the viewers over on you.

1850
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 5: We haven't missed one since we too or whatever.

1851
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 3: And that's following every rule, not picking the same team

1852
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 3: multiple times. We're going to accomplish the task ahead of us.

1853
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: Although I will say the team you really wanted to

1854
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: pick as a survivor was the Bucks and they sweated

1855
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: it even less, but either way, they got the w

1856
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: just like the Broncos. Before we move on to Sunday

1857
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: Night Football, we say goodbye to a man who has

1858
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: put more time in oh come on the desk than

1859
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,440
Speaker 1: just about anyone, and who is going to be celebrating

1860
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: his birthday by the time anyone is listening to this podcast.

1861
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 5: So happy birthday, Patrick claybod Thank you, Greg.

1862
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 7: Thanks Happy birthday.

1863
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 4: I has known you for almost ten years. I didn't

1864
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 4: know that tomorrow is your birthday and that's on me.

1865
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 4: Happy birthday.

1866
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: It's on me not to have given you anything, oh

1867
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 1: other than just like a thirty second little happy birthday,

1868
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: which is kind of the standard industry gift on shows.

1869
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 5: But I give it to you, and I hope you

1870
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 5: have a nice day.

1871
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: Anything planned for other than taping Fantasy Live, anything outside

1872
01:26:58,320 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: of work.

1873
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 3: No, we were not able to corral our sitter who

1874
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 3: who's out of town. No, it's it's fine. I want

1875
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 3: to watch the game. I hope the Ravens win on Monday.

1876
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, my birthday present is the people that

1877
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 3: God has placed in my life.

1878
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 2: That includes all of you, guys. I'm spoiled Roden, So

1879
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 2: thank you for the birthday wishes.

1880
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: This is great, well said the host who can do

1881
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 1: it all the birthday man, Lamar Jackson. I didn't get

1882
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: Patrick a birthday present. You better give him a birthday present.

1883
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to sofa.

1884
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 12: It is third down and five. Barkley Beckham hurts and

1885
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 12: the pistol with Barkley behind him. What if Betty gives

1886
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 12: it to Barkley, he gets it to Barkley, who cuts outside.

1887
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 12: He's at the forting.

1888
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 2: He's gonna go again.

1889
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 5: He's gonna go again.

1890
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 6: Touchdown, Shake, Barkley his old time record sevalty two yards.

1891
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 2: How good is that guy?

1892
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 5: How good is this guy?

1893
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 6: His total now fifty five yards rushing on the night, That.

1894
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 7: Is an all time Agles record.

1895
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 1: Meri Reethe and Mike Quick on WIP in Philadelphia doing

1896
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: a lot of my work for me, telling me what

1897
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: the records are. On the night they also broke a

1898
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: record three hundred and two yards from scrimmage. Saquon Barkley. Man,

1899
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: It's like, which seventy yard rushing touchdown in the second

1900
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: half are.

1901
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 5: We gonna choose as our highlight. We had a couple options.

1902
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 1: The first play of the third quarter and then the

1903
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: one that sealed it thirty seven to twenty. Eagles get

1904
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: it done another week, Nick where they just leaned on

1905
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 1: the opponent and leaned on the opponent. They were actually

1906
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: trailing with under two minutes to go in the first half,

1907
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: seven to six, and by the end of the game,

1908
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: it just felt like, what, why did I think the

1909
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 1: Rams could even compete in this one? All these teams

1910
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 1: end up looking soft by the end of sixty minutes

1911
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: against these bruisers in Saquon Barkley, You.

1912
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 4: Know I don't, actually, yes, I do revel in being

1913
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 4: able to say this, even if I've said it many times.

1914
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 4: It starts in the trenches, baby, and that is exactly

1915
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 4: where the Eagles won on both sides of the ball.

1916
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 4: I mean that we saw how often Matthew Stafford was

1917
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 4: under duress, Milton Williams having a couple of really nice

1918
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 4: snaps there in the second half. You know what Jalen

1919
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 4: Carter brings to the table, But really it's the offensive

1920
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 4: line of the Eagles that blocks it up so well

1921
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 4: that Saquon Barkley has a hole wide enough for two.

1922
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 7: Mac trucks to run through.

1923
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,839
Speaker 4: I mean, that was perfection when it comes to blocking,

1924
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 4: and they just they won the battle up front. They

1925
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 4: were able to put away the Rams with ease. This

1926
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 4: offense is humming, this defense is playing really well together.

1927
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 4: I hate to say it because I feel like I'm

1928
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 4: sounding hyperbolic, but I'm going to say it. The Eagles

1929
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 4: are one of the best teams in football, and they're

1930
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,879
Speaker 4: going to be right there in Super Bowl contention.

1931
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you know they're they're in the NFC. So

1932
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: not nine and two, seven game winning streak is not

1933
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: enough for the one seed. I guess it wouldn't be

1934
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: in the AFC either. The difference is after Washington's loss

1935
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: on Sunday, they're up three in the lost column and

1936
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 1: the division feels very much in their pocket, and they

1937
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: know they're gonna almost certainly be the one or the

1938
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: two seed. In some ways, you'd almost rather be the

1939
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 1: Eagles than the Lions, because the Lions have one team

1940
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: just one game back. You got another team a couple

1941
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 1: games back in the Packers, and so they really have

1942
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: more work to do to keep and to get that

1943
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 1: one seed. But that's talking down the road right now.

1944
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: What they are doing consistently and getting better each and

1945
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 1: every week is so impressive. I'm glad you mentioned the

1946
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: line play on both sides because going into this game,

1947
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: I thought, what a big test for this Rams defensive line,

1948
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: which has been great all year, but they've mostly been

1949
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 1: great getting to the passer, and they had a couple

1950
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: of decent press his fist had a big sack early

1951
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: in the first half, but the pressure rate on Hurtz

1952
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: was not that high. On his twenty two passes, the

1953
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: key number to me is just twenty two. He's just

1954
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: not needing to throw the ball that much. He scrambled

1955
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 1: a few times ended up rushing the ball twelve times

1956
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: if you count the kneel downs at the end and

1957
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 1: in the running game, the Rams just held on for

1958
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: a while. If you actually look at the success rate

1959
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 1: and the run stuffs, then the Eagles actually had a

1960
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: decent amount of negative runs in this game. They're pretty

1961
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 1: close between the two teams, but the difference is Kyron

1962
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 1: Williams never pops a big one, and at the end

1963
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: of the first half you kind of felt like, saquad

1964
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,600
Speaker 1: oh man, he almost like broke that for thirty, but

1965
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 1: he got seven. Oh Saquon like almost got a big one,

1966
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: but he got thirteen. And then literally the first play

1967
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 1: of the second half he hits that long one and

1968
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: after that there's just no margin for error. The Rams

1969
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 1: offense would have needed to be perfect tonight. It was

1970
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: really the Eagles dot offense that was only stopped one time.

1971
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 1: I mean there was a punt early and other than that,

1972
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: it was the weird sequence at the end of the

1973
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: first half, which I guess they get stopped on downs,

1974
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: but other than that, like that was it. You have

1975
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: to play almost perfect right now against this Eagle's rushing attack.

1976
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and to take it back to the line play

1977
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 4: because I think while Saquon's having a career year and

1978
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 4: everything else, they are hand in hand, like one does

1979
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 4: not happen without the other. And if you look at

1980
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,719
Speaker 4: this starting five, I have to tip my cap again

1981
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 4: to Hollie Rosen because let's go or yeah, left to right,

1982
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 4: Jordan Malatta. They get him to the National Player program.

1983
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 4: You got Landon Dickerson. That's a former draft investment who

1984
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 4: was a top guard coming out of his class. Cam Jurgens,

1985
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 4: who they drafted two three years ago to replace Kelsey

1986
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 4: who they had Jason Kelcey. Tell them to draft who's

1987
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 4: been killing it. Then you go to the right guard.

1988
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 4: You got Makai Beckden. This is why we all know

1989
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 4: what Lane Johnson is. I'm not gonna spend any time

1990
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 4: in him. McKai Beckton, the guy that we all said, oh,

1991
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 4: look at the athleticism at the draft. Look at his

1992
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 4: forty times. That's incredible for somebody that side to move

1993
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 4: like that. He plays tackle, he gets hurt multiple times.

1994
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 4: His career in New York never works. They move him

1995
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 4: to guard. He might be one of the biggest guards

1996
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 4: outside of Daniel file Lele in NFL history, and he's

1997
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 4: moving baby, they can pull them. They pulled him on

1998
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 4: that play for Saquon in that last touchdown run. This

1999
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 4: is one of the best starting fives in the NFL.

2000
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 4: They can do everything that you asked them to do.

2001
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 4: Every blocking scheme and an approach is available to them.

2002
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 4: You have a home run hitter at running back in

2003
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley. You have an experienced quarterback who is a

2004
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 4: dynamic threat in Jalen Hurts. And oh, by the way,

2005
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 4: you also have Aj Brown and Devonte Smith when he's

2006
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 4: available in that receiving corps as well. It's one of

2007
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 4: the more complete offenses in the NFL. But again, it

2008
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 4: starts up front. And that's why I think every team,

2009
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,759
Speaker 4: like I just was sitting back dreaming of like Lions

2010
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 4: Eagles NFC championship game or let's.

2011
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: Get yes, that would be an awesome game. We have

2012
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 1: a long time until we get there. I'm glad you

2013
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 1: mentioned AJ Brown. I keep saying that he's the most

2014
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 1: valuable wide receiver I believe to his team in the

2015
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 1: entire NFL. I think tonight's matchup between him and Puka,

2016
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: they're very similar. AJ Brown goes six for one oh

2017
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: nine and the Rams didn't really have much of an

2018
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: answer for him late in the first half, and now

2019
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 1: he's healthy enough where he's getting a lot of yards

2020
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: after the catch, so he was bodying some of the

2021
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 1: smaller RAMS defensive backs, but then also picking up an

2022
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: extra ten to fifteen. He goes six for one oh nine,

2023
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: and their next leading receiver other than Saquan who is

2024
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 1: becoming a bigger part of the passing game too, their

2025
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 1: next leading receiver was god It four for nineteen. I mean,

2026
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 1: they don't really have secondary receivers when Devonte Smith is

2027
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: out like tonight, and maybe that could be a bit

2028
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 1: of an issue. God It's fine, they didn't need him tonight,

2029
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 1: but it just shows what a dominant player AJ Brown is.

2030
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 5: Very similar.

2031
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: On the other side, Puka Akua goes nine for one

2032
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: to seventeen and I don't even think he's one hundred

2033
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 1: percent healthy. And until they found Cup for a garbage

2034
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 1: time touchdown with about a minute left, the numbers were

2035
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: very similar where there was no other Rams receiver anywhere

2036
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: over thirty yards. And that's where I stand with the Rams,

2037
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: which is they're a feisty, fun defense, but they're gonna

2038
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 1: get pushed around against like the best teams like an

2039
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: Eagles or Alliance.

2040
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:16,839
Speaker 5: They're just not in that class.

2041
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 1: Maybe they're average slightly above average overall. Offensively they're good,

2042
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 1: but they're not great like they have been sometimes in

2043
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 1: the Stafford era. They're good, and they played a really

2044
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 1: tough Eagles defense, but the injury at right tackle where

2045
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: they haven't gotten Rob hen steinback. There was a lot

2046
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,799
Speaker 1: of pressure on the right side. Brandon Graham is playing

2047
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: like a man ten years younger all season, so he's

2048
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 1: creating a lot of pressure. And then Milton Williams who

2049
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned, and Jalen Carter on the inside, you know,

2050
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 1: matching up against Limmer and these younger and or just

2051
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: not great guards for the Rams. There were too many

2052
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: holes for Matthew Stafford to fill there. And Kyron Williams

2053
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: fumbles in the game once loses it in the red zone.

2054
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: You have to almost be perfect against this Eagles team,

2055
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: and just like a few too many flaws. I don't

2056
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 1: think the Rams are done by any means in this

2057
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: NFC West at five and six. But I also do

2058
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 1: think when I heard Chris Collins were say at the

2059
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: end of the game, you know, Sean McVay might not

2060
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: be that surprised by what's going on here. I'm like, hmm, wow,

2061
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: did he have a very realistic sit down with McVeagh

2062
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 1: before the game that, look, we maybe don't match up.

2063
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to play our perfect game to beat

2064
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 1: this team. He kind of knows they are not at

2065
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: a true contention level and it would be foolish to

2066
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 1: think otherwise. And you know who who agrees with them?

2067
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: All the Eagles fans at SOFI tonight. That was next level.

2068
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 5: Man, Oh my god.

2069
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 4: I mean, we know, we know how LA games can be.

2070
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 4: Even the Rams they felt their stadium more than Chargers

2071
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 4: fans do. But there are a lot of Eagles fans

2072
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 4: in LA. I'll tell you that. If you look at

2073
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 4: the remaining schedule for the Rams though, Like I agree,

2074
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 4: they're not at that true contention status, but they could definitely.

2075
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 4: I mean, they're obviously still in this NFC West race,

2076
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 4: and like they play at the Saints, they come home

2077
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 4: against the Bills, at at Jets, home against Cardinals the Seahawks.

2078
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 4: You get two division games in your last two and

2079
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 4: three in your last four. It's still a pretty workable schedule.

2080
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 4: Like I could see them figuring out and even if

2081
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 4: they split those, they finished like eight to nine, nine

2082
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 4: and eight, you might have an outside shot.

2083
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 5: They got a chance.

2084
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 1: But when you have a game like the Bills, for it,

2085
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have one that people don't see coming,

2086
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: an upset win. And they just got smoked by a true,

2087
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: real deal contender.

2088
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:25,879
Speaker 5: Can they really beat the Bills?

2089
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: If you can't, then you're up to seven losses and

2090
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: the Seahawks the Cardinals, we'll see. It's gonna come down

2091
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: to the end. But I think we just showed the

2092
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 1: separation there. And yeah, Jordan Rodrigu was there said she

2093
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 1: hasn't heard the crowd quite like that, maybe for a

2094
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 1: road team. They actually were doing an in game segment

2095
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,639
Speaker 1: down twenty seven to fourteen where they show misplaced fans,

2096
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: and I've seen this one where they show the jerseys

2097
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 1: of like random fans in the crowd that of not

2098
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 1: the teams that are at the game or whatever, and

2099
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 1: things funny, and sometimes they were showing Rams fit. You know,

2100
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: they showed like a Rams person and the entire Eagles

2101
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: crowd is booing the hell out of Rams fans. So

2102
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 1: that's a tough spot for the Rams. On Sunday, night.

2103
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 1: Just ultimately not good enough on either line, and the

2104
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 1: Eagles are getting it done seven straight victories. Shookie, it

2105
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 1: was a pleasure. We will be back on Monday Night

2106
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 1: fun game. I think the Chargers have a better chance

2107
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 1: at least to pull the upset as an LA underdog

2108
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 1: on Monday Night.

2109
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 11: What do you think?

2110
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2111
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 4: I would agree, And speaking of most valuable receivers, most

2112
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,679
Speaker 4: valuable podcast host Greg Rosenthal.

2113
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know where you're getting at.

2114
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 7: But most efficient runner Josh Allen.

2115
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 1: Definitely not efficient. Frequent podcasts for sure. We will be

2116
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 1: back again to recap that Ravens Charges game. Really looking

2117
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 1: forward to that. Man when Saquon Barkley is breaking records.

2118
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: He already has his all time mark for rushing yards

2119
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: in a season.

2120
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Speaker 5: You know, football is back.

2121
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Speaker 1: We'll see you Monday Night.