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Speaker 2: Paul then by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by

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Speaker 3: Problem solved middle the Enzo pickoff.

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Speaker 2: Hi here White with the interception.

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 3: Oh that was nasty right there.

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Speaker 2: Rights slam the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul calvic.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna have to pump my brakes. Even

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Speaker 2: though we're not even midway through the week. I feel

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Speaker 2: like I'm a little too locked in already.

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Speaker 4: I find that hard to believe with the.

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Speaker 2: Seahawks coming to town, you know, and it's comments like

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Speaker 2: that where skeid even more locked in over here. Cardinals

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Speaker 2: remind myself to pace myself. Comments like that certainly don't

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Speaker 2: help comments on Twitter where I'm already seeing it's already

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Speaker 2: in my head, it's already mental that wise guy trivia's

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Speaker 2: coming up, and it's been polypathetic all year long. In fact,

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Speaker 2: one smart guy on social media said, hey, Paul, you

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Speaker 2: know that list of incompetence and ineptitude? How many losses

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Speaker 2: are you going to take before you add yourself to

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Speaker 2: your own list?

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Speaker 4: Too far? You have two wins? What more does he want?

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Speaker 2: And then he brought up the Bears, and I said, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Matt Eberflus and the clock management, certainly, but Tyreek Stevenson

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Speaker 2: is already on the list of ineptitude. And then Dan

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Speaker 2: you brought up he deserves to be on there again.

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Speaker 4: Yes. When the Bears are playing the Lions on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 4: there's a clip where running back Jumior Gibbs is pushed

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Speaker 4: the official in front of some of the Bears players

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Speaker 4: on the sideline. It's hard to tell, but when it's

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Speaker 4: slowed down you can see that Tyreek Stevenson puts his

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Speaker 4: foot out to trip Jamiir Gibbs, who when he gets up,

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Speaker 4: takes his towel and throws it in his face like

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Speaker 4: a penalty flag.

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Speaker 2: Because it can always get worse. It does.

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Speaker 3: I would just like to say that I don't I

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Speaker 3: can't believe you're you're just now trying to work with

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Speaker 3: the locked in. Danny is super locked in. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you've heard this, Paul No, but in our

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Speaker 3: weekly Picks, Danny went undefeated.

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Speaker 2: Well, non, please, what what are you serious?

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Speaker 4: I took a page out of Polly Props's playbook.

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Speaker 2: Okay, no way, clean up, Oh way, just clean clean

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Speaker 2: sweep is what you busted out over there.

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Speaker 4: Okay, fifteen for fifteen ladies and gentlemen. Wow, it's time

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Speaker 4: I start caring again. And I really lock in. I

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Speaker 4: was like eighteen games behind Darren.

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Speaker 2: So what fans bring to the final game of a

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Speaker 2: playoff series when they're about to sweep, They bring the broom.

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Speaker 2: Danny just busted that out after a fifteen and ozer

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Speaker 4: I'm very impressed with myself.

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Speaker 2: That's a golf clap thing. That's certainly a golf clap.

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Speaker 2: That is really well done. Okay, all right, if I

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Speaker 2: make absolutely sure there's no funny business with the numbers

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a thought. Okay, you can edit

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Speaker 2: that out a little bit later. We'll get to the

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Speaker 2: big Cat and the overwhelming you have props, We have props.

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Speaker 2: The overwhelming key to the game I didn't bring any

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Speaker 2: problem is going to be Leonard Williams. There is no

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Speaker 2: bit later. First off, give me a word on Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: You thought everything was going the Cardinals way when you

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Speaker 2: you realize, wait, this is climate control. The elements are

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Speaker 2: booing the Vikings late third quarter. It was most definitely

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Speaker 2: Is there any sort of lesson to be learned? You

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Speaker 3: Score touchdowns?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? And that'll do it for this edition brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Yeah one for six.

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Speaker 3: And if you think about it, if if they get

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Speaker 4: If the touchdown isn't called back because of a penalty.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if Chad Ryland could have done what Danny

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Speaker 3: I'm not Look, I'm not gonna lay it at his feet.

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Speaker 3: thought of it that way, but now I have. But ultimately,

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Speaker 3: You got one touchdown since the bye, that's not good enough.

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Speaker 2: And if you weren't one for six in the red

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Speaker 2: track record already of dictating to a defense, but especially

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Speaker 2: in that fourth quarter, it definitely seemed. In fact, i'll

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Speaker 2: see the fourth quarter of the last two games, the

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Speaker 4: In terms of going for the field goal instead of

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Speaker 4: and having confidence in your defense there. Analytics play a

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Speaker 4: very important role and a lot of situations, not just

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Speaker 4: many things that go into just simply the analytics say

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Speaker 2: And just so everyone knows, there was plenty of debate

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Speaker 3: Well, there's two points here. One and I mentioned the

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Speaker 2: But the other intriguing part about it is if you

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Speaker 3: There's lots of things involved, but at the time, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: To me. You hit zoom out here for a minute.

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Speaker 2: It's the last step in the process of beginning of

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Speaker 2: becoming a winning team a winning organization is you have

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Speaker 2: to win the close ones. That's what the NFL comes

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Speaker 2: down to so often. Right now, the Vikings are seven

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Speaker 2: and one in one score games. You can be close

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Speaker 2: winning as a team, as an organization. You have to

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Speaker 3: But hey, you didn't go anywhere.

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Speaker 4: But the fact is the Cardinals have had their moments

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Speaker 2: And honestly, that's another point to go ahead and kick

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Speaker 3: Even when we talk about what wasn't done, not going

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Speaker 3: I don't think of the end the last possession. I

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Speaker 2: You had it first and goal at the five, and

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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and Tip responds to that. Now, somebody said, yell,

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Speaker 2: It's when second and twenty five for a second, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's like what you got. It's like you got sacked

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, by the way, the best news this week

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Speaker 2: that would be the best news this week. Two games

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Speaker 2: one hundred scrimmage charge, which means the Cardinals are now

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Speaker 2: I mean, you had a top five team in sacks,

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Speaker 2: From the Seattle game to the Minnesota game. That happened.

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Speaker 2: But to Darren's question, what didn't happen? I guess red

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Speaker 2: zone obviously would be number one. What else? What else

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Speaker 4: Penalties?

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Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, ten of it was loud.

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Speaker 4: But that happens when you're on the road. It's the

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Speaker 3: Was almost like Harrison scored the touchdown and the Vikings like,

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Speaker 3: oh wow, we might lose this game. Yes, that's what

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Speaker 4: The struggles for Arizona offensively, it felt less about what

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Speaker 4: Why do you only have one touchdown to show for it?

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Speaker 2: And look, the best teams and the best players always

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Speaker 2: hear them saying a couple of them said we'll see

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Speaker 4: Well, part of that the interceptions, which we haven't really

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Speaker 2: And I know, and I said this with Red Sea

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Speaker 2: I mean it was quiet in that dome and then

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Speaker 3: Well, again, you were in a situation when he threw

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Speaker 3: that interception where they had just scored the touchdown, they

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Speaker 3: I'm like, they're going to go down and score touchdown

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Speaker 3: can talk about how they didn't finish that last drive

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Speaker 3: Every sorry, Jonathan Gannon. All the momentum was against the

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Speaker 3: and you just felt like, Okay. When Trey McBride made

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. The field goals came on

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Speaker 2: It just it's sort of had that look to it.

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Speaker 2: right the legend walks by points to eighty five and says,

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Speaker 4: Should have more than zero touchdowns. Paul yea, I.

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Speaker 2: Guess that kind of goes un said, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: That's an she just says. It's a very interesting question.

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Speaker 2: It is a great question, and honestly, it's right there

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Speaker 2: He notices eyes on him at all three levels. He's

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Speaker 2: getting hit by ends, he's hitting you know, but no,

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Speaker 3: Well again, he's super talented, and obviously Kyler's looking for him.

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Speaker 3: He's getting a bunch of catches. The end zone thing

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Speaker 2: I think the sixteen for sixteen was goal to go,

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Speaker 3: I'm struggling, maybe I start looking in that direction or

437
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 3: I try and I don't know what they were doing

438
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: defensively necessarily, Like I'm trying to think of what happened.

439
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 3: You want them to score, and they had those long drives,

440
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 3: but where were they ending. Like the one of the

441
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: field goal drives, you can't even you got to throw

442
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 3: out because quite frankly, the way they played it, it

443
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 3: was the end of the first half, and they got

444
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Speaker 3: close on the last play and then they just ran

445
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Speaker 3: the clock down. They didn't decide to spike it and

446
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 3: try one shot in the end zone and that's that's fine.

447
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 3: The other ones, I don't know if those ended up

448
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 3: close enough where you were going to. I feel like

449
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 3: a couple of those drives ended a little bit closer,

450
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: but it was like a third down short pass that

451
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 3: got you another eight yards or something. So you know

452
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Speaker 3: whether they should be looking in the end zone more. Obviously,

453
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Speaker 3: there's there's been a couple of times when McBride was

454
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Speaker 3: opening the end zone this season and and it just

455
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 3: looked like Kyler missed them. I don't know. It'll be

456
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Speaker 3: interesting to see what happens these last what five games

457
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 3: now five games to whether they get him that the

458
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Speaker 3: touchdown catcher too.

459
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Speaker 2: I think they need to, Okay, So I just I

460
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Speaker 2: just googled up real quick the top red zone teams

461
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Speaker 2: right now, because I believe I saw a couple of

462
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 2: weeks ago and this confirms it. Baltimore one, Buffalo was

463
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Speaker 2: now four in terms of what percentage just yes, a

464
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Speaker 2: touchdown percentage in the red zone. The reason I bring

465
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Speaker 2: that up is because what do the Ravens and the

466
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Speaker 2: Bills have a dual threat quarterback us and to me.

467
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: Big dual threat quarterback about Josh?

468
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,239
Speaker 2: You can run quarterback? Look at how the Colts one

469
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: quarterback power with ANTHONYA. Richardson, right, I get it, You're

470
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: not running quarterback power with Kyler bought the thread of

471
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Speaker 2: his legs and we've talked about this his entire career.

472
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Speaker 2: It should make the Cardinals a very formidable red zone

473
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 2: team because you have a quarterback and can run a

474
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: four to three and if nothing else, poo, he takes

475
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Speaker 2: off of the pylon.

476
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: Almost could you clip that? Paul is saying that he

477
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: wants a lateral to Kyler like the lateral to Josh Allen.

478
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: You know what if they can give the ball to

479
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: Penny Sewel in the Thanksgiving Day game and let the

480
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: let the tackle you know, run it, then yeah, just run,

481
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: set Kyler up in the slot and have him come

482
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Speaker 2: buying a jet sweep. That's good stuff, Darren.

483
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Speaker 4: I like that.

484
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Speaker 2: You know we we we just create it. Is there

485
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Speaker 2: a suggestion box outside Drew Pets and his office.

486
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Speaker 4: Here's the The second is there have been multiple games

487
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 4: or we have discussed Kyler Murray using his legs and

488
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 4: the threat that he has had. And he's had some

489
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 4: incredible touchdown runs in San Francisco at home against the Rams.

490
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Speaker 2: I think they did everything against the Rams right.

491
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Speaker 4: Against the Jets, I believe off the top of my head.

492
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Speaker 4: So there have been moments where Murray has used his legs.

493
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 4: In Miami another great example. So it's a question of

494
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 4: is it just who they're playing, because I don't think

495
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Speaker 4: you can make the argument the same way of the

496
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Speaker 4: Cardinals aren't winning close games. They have won a handful

497
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Speaker 4: of close games. They haven't won everyone, but they have

498
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Speaker 4: stayed in it and won some close one score games.

499
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Speaker 4: Murray has had some games where he has looked really

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Speaker 4: good using his legs. It hasn't been consistent, and is

501
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Speaker 4: that because of something that he is desiring. I think

502
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Speaker 4: it's less of that and more of who they're playing

503
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Speaker 4: and how the game is being dictated. If the run

504
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 4: game is not there with somebody like a James Connor

505
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 4: or a Trey Benson, I don't want to force it

506
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Speaker 4: with your quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And you know what to that point we were talking

508
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: about this earlier. Look at the last two defensive coordinators

509
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: that Cardinals have gone against and Mike McDonald and Brian Flores.

510
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 2: Are there any more creative defensive coordinators in the game today?

511
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Speaker 3: Probably not.

512
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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, you might put Nick Ross and Jonathan

513
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Speaker 2: Gannon in that top five if you're gonna coount. On one hand,

514
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Speaker 2: you probably put the Cardinals considered what they're doing on

515
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: third down known pass. And also, you know, a.

516
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Speaker 3: Lot of you talk about Kyler running the ball and

517
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: you're about to face the same defensive guy then yep,

518
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 3: stopped him from getting what seemed to be an automatic

519
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 3: first down on that fourth down in Seattle.

520
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Speaker 2: So you know, and again to Danny's point, things that

521
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: were happening earlier in the year, and some of the

522
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: successes in some of the areas we're citing now, do

523
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Speaker 2: you need to adjust to the adjustments as an offense?

524
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 2: Do you need to adjust to what you know for example,

525
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 2: the interception fateful pick in Seattle where Devin Witherspoon was

526
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Speaker 2: in the flat to meet Kyler Murray who's trying to

527
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Speaker 2: run for the first down. Guess what, that's an adjustment

528
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Speaker 2: by Mike McDonald because they knew the tendency the Cardinals

529
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Speaker 2: in those high leverage moments to give Kylo the ball,

530
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Speaker 2: let his legs do the work. And so, okay, some

531
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: of these teams are adjusting a quarterly. Now do you

532
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: need to make some wholesale changes yourself, or at least

533
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: start to keep defenses honest in a different way. Are

534
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: you taking a picture of Kevin who's on the seat

535
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: over there? Yes, it might as well be like one

536
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: of those folding chairs you see at a kid's soccer game.

537
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: That's what he looks like. It looks like a parent

538
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: who's just doing it.

539
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: And people say, hey, you want to work in the NFL.

540
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: There you go.

541
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Speaker 2: Do you think as he sits there with the automatic cameras,

542
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: he's suffering from brain rot?

543
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 4: Can you use that in a sentence please?

544
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Speaker 2: Paul I was actually got you know. I was teeing

545
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: you guys up because you guys were talking about how

546
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Speaker 2: it's already been named the word of the year. Is

547
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: it one word or two? Is there a hyphen in there?

548
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: Is it just like one word?

549
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 5: There?

550
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: It's the term of the year. What is it?

551
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was Oxford University Press. Okay, the evocative phrase

552
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: brain rot okay gain new prominence in twenty twenty four, right,

553
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 3: which I'm not so sure that's true. I feel like

554
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: brain has been around for a while, don't you, Although

555
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: maybe twenty twenty four did take it to it.

556
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 2: Consider I can't answer that question. I think I'm a

557
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: victim of brain rod at this point.

558
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 3: It's the word of the year for the Oxford dictionaries.

559
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 3: You guys, could be used during wise Guy. Yeah, I

560
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: was gonna say he was in a sentence Paul Calvc

561
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: suffering from brain Rod.

562
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna draw a direct correlation between the emergence and

563
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: surgeon Brainrod to wise Guy Trivia on the scene in

564
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, It's.

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00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: Time for the wise Guy the World's Fastest Growing Cardinals

566
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets absolutely nothing.

567
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: Here's your hostess with the mostess.

568
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: Daddy's right.

569
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 4: Somebody claimed online that they feel Darren is getting an

570
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 4: unfer advantage by getting a peek at the questions ahead

571
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 4: of time.

572
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 3: Not true, definitely not true.

573
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 2: That was not my burner account, although I wish it was.

574
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: Again. The bright smile that Danny gets every time that

575
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: music starts is just it lights up the room.

576
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: Paul, we don't need to mention my win loss record.

577
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: Let's just say I have not had the keys to

578
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: wise Guy triples.

579
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: Remember remember the beginning episode when he said he wanted

580
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 4: to lock in.

581
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: Yes, now it's the time log in again. Free advice,

582
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: I'll take it.

583
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: Before we get started, I want to reiterate on the picks.

584
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: Danny went fifteen and O this week.

585
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 2: Why why do you have to reiterate that?

586
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: Because that's that is pretty amazing. I gotta be honest, Paul.

587
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: You went thirteen and two. That's damn good. It's not

588
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: as good as it and I was twelve and three,

589
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: so I stunk. I still have the lead one hundred

590
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: and twenty five wins fifty eight losses. Paul, you've pulled

591
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: within one game one twenty four and fifty nine. Danny

592
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 3: rockets up to one hundred and thirteen, up seventy day.

593
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: But imagine if I get another perfect week. I know

594
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: and I'm cooking with gas.

595
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: See. Darren brings this up because he gets to mention

596
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: a he's leading overall when he hit zoom out on.

597
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about, Danny.

598
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: And then number two he gets to site how his

599
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: wise guy record is eleven and two. All right, let's

600
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: go ahead, Darren.

601
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take question number two. Danny.

602
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: Wait, Danny go first.

603
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: Last week, he gets, if you want to go.

604
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: First, you need to win. Paul is definitely not.

605
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: The last weeks that we've been playing by these rules.

606
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. I'll overcome the bad officiating right now. It's

607
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: like the Jets are whindering about the officiating against the Seahawks.

608
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: I have been nothing but on your side.

609
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: Here we go. The world's against me, me against everybody.

610
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: Let's go me and Detroit against everybody.

611
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 4: That's enough. Here we go down. During a twenty fifteen

612
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: Sunday Night thriller at Seattle, everyone remembers Andre Ellington's forty

613
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: eight yard touchdown run to seal the game for Arizona

614
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 4: with a minute fifty eight to play, but the Cardinals

615
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: took the lead for good at the eight forty one

616
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: mark of the fourth quarter. When Carson Palmer found this

617
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 4: tight end for a fourteen yard touchdown.

618
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: Jermaine Gresham.

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Speaker 2: I knew that one, although I was gonna call him

620
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Speaker 2: Jeremy Gresham Jermaineman. I better hydrate, all right, Here we go.

621
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Speaker 4: Pick a number, Paul.

622
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: It's brutal because I mean I remember bibically talking to

623
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: these guys. Gresham was huge. He was a huge Titans.

624
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: Number three obvious.

625
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: Everybody's huge team.

626
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: Pooda is having a season. I need to turn my

627
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: season round number three.

628
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 4: Let's go, Paul. The Seattle Seahawks mascot made his debut

629
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Speaker 4: at the Kingdom Kingdome in nineteen ninety eight.

630
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm getting a mascot question right now, and takes his.

631
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Speaker 4: Name from this popular football term.

632
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: No, okay, wait a minute, I think I have this one.

633
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: First of all, Danny should be doing all mascot questions.

634
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: I actually would have known the answer to this.

635
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: I've actually dodged this mascot a couple dozen times over

636
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: the years.

637
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 4: Blitz correct, wait to lock in.

638
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: Here we go.

639
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 4: Here we go, Darren one or four.

640
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: I will take number one.

641
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: After playing five seasons with the Cardinals, this wide receiver

642
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: ended up with the Seahawks and scored seven touchdowns over

643
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: the course of the twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen seasons.

644
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: Hint he was a Tiger in college.

645
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: A Tiger in college who scored seven touchdowns for the Seahawks. Wow,

646
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: I am drawing a blank.

647
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, say it again. They were talking to

648
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: my ear.

649
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: It's not even your turn to steal yet, Paul. Would

650
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: you like a reread?

651
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: Sure, I'll take a reward.

652
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: I'll even let Darren by himself some time here we go,

653
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: which he obviously desperately needs.

654
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 4: After playing five seasons with the Cardinals, this wide receiver

655
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 4: ended up with the Seahawks and scored seven touchdowns over

656
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 4: the course of the twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen seasons.

657
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: Hint he was a Tiger in college.

658
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, Oh yeah.

659
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: Andre Roberts.

660
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: I know that's not him, but he made the team

661
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: as an undrafted rookie out of Clemson. Oh, oh my goodness.

662
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: And I can't remember his name right now.

663
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: He scored seven touchdowns.

664
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't Trent Sherfield because he was from Vanderbilt.

665
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: I know I'm not going to get it, but I'm

666
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: gonna answer.

667
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: After it was Isaiah Stanbusch. Sharon Brown had seven touchdowns.

668
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: I was gonna say John Brown, but then I thought, no,

669
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: there's no way he had seven touchdowns.

670
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 4: I won't give you the point with that.

671
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: Correct If I can tell you guy's a biscuit, If

672
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: I can tell you the guy's entire biography, but I

673
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: can't tell you his name. Does that don't I should

674
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: get like half credit for that If he'll tell you

675
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: the guy's whole.

676
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: Player went over this last week, we do not give

677
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: half points on wisedy.

678
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I could literally write the guy's bio, but

679
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: I don't remember his name. I can't believe I missed

680
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: something inherently unfair.

681
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: I just guessed what I can.

682
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: Here's your nick, Paul, you could win it on this.

683
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: I could.

684
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 4: I've said it to you once, and I'll say, Paul

685
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: talk in.

686
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Karma. What I say to begin this podcast Finish drives,

687
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: Finish games, Finish the season, Finish Calvic, Here we go Jinks.

688
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: After playing in forty five games over three seasons for

689
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: the Cardinals, this class of twenty twenty Pro Football Hall

690
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: of Famer finished his career by playing seven games with

691
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: Seattle in two thousand and nine. Who is it?

692
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: Okay, they got a little confusing.

693
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 4: Sad that again?

694
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: I know the answer, Danny.

695
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: Here we go. After playing in forty five games over

696
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: three seasons with the Cardinals, this class of twenty twenty

697
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: Pro Football Hall of Famer finished his career by playing

698
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: seven games with Seattle in two thousand and nine.

699
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I know Jerry Rice finished his Hall of Fame

700
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: career in Seattle, obviously. Oh boy, John Abraham edgrin.

701
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: James Darren has stolen the point and stolen the win.

702
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: I thought for sure you'd get that one.

703
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: Dre and James played for the Seahawks.

704
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: You don't remember that?

705
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: Do not remember that?

706
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 4: Man?

707
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: I can't believe Jaron Brown had seven touchdowns?

708
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: Should we do the tiebreakers just for fun even though

709
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: it's the final time playing?

710
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: Because no one's having any fun right now?

711
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: Oh okay, you're right. News to me. I told Jim,

712
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: it sounds like we're doing the tiebreaker overruled Paul. You

713
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 4: guys know that Joe closest to the number wins. The

714
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: space Needle in Seattle features unique architecture. It has just

715
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 4: six floors. Based on its height, the structure would be

716
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 4: equivalent to how many stories are you googling on your laptop?

717
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm right. I've never gone in the space needle.

718
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 2: I've stood in front of it a couple of times.

719
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: Both times the line was like two hours long. That's

720
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: a non starter. So let's see here. I'll say about

721
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: eighty seven stories.

722
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I said forty two sixty.

723
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 4: I don't know who's closest. That's Matt to off the

724
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: top of my head, barely. Okay, all right, there's a

725
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 4: tiebreaker number two if it was needed.

726
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: How would we need a second tiebreaker?

727
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

728
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 4: Here we go. I'm glad you.

729
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: Asked, almost like I did all this work. I want

730
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: to bring this.

731
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: It says if needed on my paper, and it feels

732
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 4: very needed in this moment. How many career touchdowns did

733
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald score against the Seahawks?

734
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: I remember the last one when he scored. It was

735
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: straight through the face of kJ Wright. He trucked him

736
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: right at about the five yard line.

737
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: That was play.

738
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: Touchdowns against those Seahawks. I'll say his number eleven.

739
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: I said, twenty two thirteen.

740
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: Ah, okay, well they had good defenses, you know, for

741
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 5: a lot of point You know what I mean, you know,

742
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 5: there was a by the way, speaking of Seattle, and

743
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 5: so we can all feel better about ourselves.

744
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: Did you see the two headlines in the New York

745
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: papers the back pages after the Seahawks pulled it out?

746
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: This is gonna be Danny's favorite subject.

747
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: The old Man and the Sea Hawks with a picture

748
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers, who's about to turn forty one. I

749
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: think he did, yes, you bring him up. And then

750
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: there's the other headline was this is getting old picture

751
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers in another l So that was as

752
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: Seattle pulled it out. There. So the Seahawks this year

753
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: won three. They lost five out of six, and now

754
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: they've won three again. They have the Cardinals, they have

755
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: the Vikings, and they have the Packers in the next

756
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: three games.

757
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: It's rough.

758
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: So I think, you know what, this is the start

759
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 2: of their next three game skid. That's what I'm thinking here,

760
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: their next streak of three. Cardinals. Get the win in

761
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: this one, and guess what they would automatical? They would?

762
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 3: Don't they have to play both those teams at home?

763
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 3: I don't.

764
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: Yes they are at home. Yes, Vikings and Packers both

765
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: at home. But look, just to underline the importance of

766
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: this game and how it changes everything. If the Cardinals

767
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: beat the Seahawks, they officially would be in first place

768
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: because of a better division and conference record and a

769
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: better head to head record against both the Seahawks and

770
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: the Rams.

771
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 4: It's tough seletting if the Cardinals lose to Seattle is

772
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 4: because you are two games back from your overall record,

773
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 4: but you're really three games back because Seattle would have

774
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 4: the head to head So even if you tie in

775
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 4: the overall record the division record, Seattle would have the

776
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: tiebreaker over the Cardinals. So then you're starting to look

777
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: at the wildcard and being in the hunt to make

778
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 4: the playoffs. That's tough in the NFC right now, and

779
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: that's a big circle on the NFC North because you've

780
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 4: got the lines in first with eleven wins, and then

781
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 4: just behind them, Minnesota has ten, green Bay has nine.

782
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 4: You're looking at Washington who's got eight wins. Atlanta can

783
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 4: make a push, it's going to be tough to make

784
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: it in the playoffs as a wildcard in the NFC.

785
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: So while every game and every win really does matter,

786
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: these divisional opponents, this game specifically, not even talking about

787
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: the upcoming divisional games you still have against LA and

788
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 4: San Francisco. This game Sunday against Seattle holds a lot

789
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: of weight for how the rest of the season could

790
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 4: look for the Cardinals.

791
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: Is there a euphemism for must win that we'd be

792
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: allowed to use? And because you know the Cardinals, none

793
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: of the players or coaches are going to call it that.

794
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: No, No, they're not.

795
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 4: It's the most important game because it's the next one.

796
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they know. I mean, you guys are in

797
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: that locker room and you could hear Jonathan in hint

798
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: towards it on Monday. I think there was like actual anger.

799
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: It went beyond just disappointment. I think there was anger

800
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: in blowing that nineteen to six lead. So not only

801
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: do you need to be locked in, I really do

802
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: think you'll get a very locked in and dare I

803
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: say angry Cardinals team in Week fourteen coming out against

804
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: Seattle and look Seattle as a knack for pulling out games.

805
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: Gino in that game, that's his eleventh game winning drive

806
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: since he became the Seahawks starting quarterback in twenty twenty two.

807
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: He played a very efficient game against the Cardinals two

808
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: weeks ago. Jets gave the Seahawks a lot of breaks.

809
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: The Jets had four defensive penalties on that game winning

810
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: drive by the Seahawks siy SO. At the same time,

811
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: the Seahawks special teams were a disaster. They fumbled three kickoffs,

812
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: lost to gave up a ninety nine yard kickoff return

813
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: for a touchdown by the Jets. They were saved a

814
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 2: by Gino and his prowess game situations and be by

815
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: the big Cat Leonard Williams, who at the ninety two

816
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: yard pick six who By the way, Mike McDonald told

817
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: the radio crew on Monday that the next gen stats

818
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: of the chip in the old shoulder pad said that

819
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: the six foot five, three hundred and ten pound d

820
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: lineman exceeded seventeen miles per hour and then ninety two

821
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: yard pick six return.

822
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 4: How fast do you think you could run?

823
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 3: I was just gonna ask the same.

824
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: Thing, that's not relevant to anything, and how.

825
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: About when you were the star safety? Ay your hi job.

826
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to hear about my running lot stories and

827
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: how they're still talking about my game against Gunderson. He

828
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 2: was the first player since nineteen eighty two with multiple

829
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: sacks in a game. Two the pick six and a

830
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: block kick and a game he blocked an extra point

831
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: just for So what do you do when right now

832
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: they have the twenty twenty four version of Aaron Donald.

833
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: He happens to wear ninety nine. By the way, you

834
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: have a backup right guard. You have a left guard

835
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: that Leonard Williams proved he knew pretty well from their

836
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: days together in Seattle. So if you have an old

837
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald game plan as an offensive line, you might

838
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: want to dust it off and employ it this week.

839
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: It sounds like the perfect opportunity for rookie ted end

840
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: Tip r'man to have a comeback game after in Minnesota

841
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: having multiple pre snap penalties. Because you're going to have

842
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: to give a lot of attention to Leonard Williams who

843
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: wrecked the Cardinals two weeks ago in Seattle. That's going

844
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 4: to require a lot of attention. I would expect to

845
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 4: see a lot of twelve thirteen personnel having a lot

846
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: of tight ends out there to help give you some

847
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: blocking help. It's all going to come down to the

848
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 4: trenches and winning the line of scrimmage. Arizona's offensive line

849
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 4: got beat by Seattle. It's that simple. They got outplayed

850
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: and outstrengthed by that defensive line, and you cannot let

851
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 4: that happen. The Cardinals have to be able to run

852
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: the ball, which they were not two weeks ago, just

853
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 4: forty nine rushing yards, and that derails the whole offense.

854
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 4: As we have seen before this year, the Cardinals were

855
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: able to run the ball against a very good run

856
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: defense in the Vikings. While every team is different, you've

857
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: got to be able to carry over some confidence that

858
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 4: you've done it against a tough defenses past week, and

859
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: you need to be able to do it against Seattle Sunday.

860
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 3: Quick point of contention, I'm not sure dusting off any

861
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: plan for Aaron Donald, given what Aaron Donald did to

862
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: this team for so long as let's do a new plane.

863
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: Not gonna enhance your chances that what you're saying.

864
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: I will say, I hope playing at home makes a

865
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: big difference for them, And you know, maybe coming off

866
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: the buy when they did in Seattle maybe made some

867
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: kind of difference.

868
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: You're looking for trends too, the way you were with

869
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: their record, Paul Is. After the sinker of the Commander's game,

870
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: Cardinals came out righty to play in San Francisco against

871
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers. After the bad loss in Green bit

872
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: of the Packers, you come out with a win against

873
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 4: the Chargers and they.

874
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: Just got four hundred plus yards against a better defense

875
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 3: than Seattle's. Now, Seattle's defense is playing much better than

876
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: and then maybe at stats show but the Vikings are

877
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: really good defensively and the Cardinals did damage.

878
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: Hey, maybe the best news is the Cardinals old doesn't

879
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: have to deal with the silent count, or you wouldn't

880
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: think they're going to have to deal with the silent count.

881
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: We'll see. But you to go against those two defensive

882
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: coordinators Leonard Williams, and then a top five sack team

883
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: in the Minnesota Vikings with all those different disguises and

884
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: exotic blitzes and the way Brian Fores likes to dial

885
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: it up. And then when a defensive front gets that

886
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: little extra edge when an O line has to go

887
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: into a silent count, maybe that's all the Cardinals need

888
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: as an offensive line to have a much better game

889
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: against Seattle.

890
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: On the other side of the ball, when you're looking

891
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 4: at the defense, Cardinals defense had a little bit of

892
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 4: pressure five sacks. They also had a handful of situations

893
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: and it was raining, so the field was a little

894
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 4: wet where Gino Smith escaped which should have been a

895
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 4: sack and some pressure. And that makes me excited, although

896
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 4: I do not like to put unfair expectations on young players,

897
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 4: makes me very excited to see what rookie defensive lineman

898
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 4: Darius Robinson can do. In his second game, there.

899
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 2: Was one play where Darius Robinson got sucked into and

900
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: Sam Donald. He broke contain and he got out for

901
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: a nice scramble. And I know fifty six was culpable

902
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: of that.

903
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 4: Robinson was he required a double team when LJ. Collier

904
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 4: got the sack on Sam Donald as well.

905
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: Yep, And now, yeah, that was probably a standout moment.

906
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: You're right.

907
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: I love when he said in the game. After the game,

908
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: he goes, I'm a game changer and I didn't change

909
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: the game. I love that thought process about being confident

910
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: enough in yourself and also understanding what you might not

911
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: have accomplished. It's early. I mean, we're we're gonna be

912
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: dissecting and you know, splitting hairs on both first round picks.

913
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 3: For a long time, Marvin Harrison's been a storyline again

914
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: this week, once again in terms of how much he

915
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: should be doing or is doing or all that stuff.

916
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: But Darius Robinson, I think is only gonna help and

917
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: he's only gonna play better, and I like the fact

918
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 3: he's gonna have a couple of games here at home.

919
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: And again, when you talk about this game, if you win,

920
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: you essentially control your own destiny. When if you went out,

921
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: you're winning the division, and you might be able to

922
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: go four and one and still win the division because

923
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: of what you mentioned with Seattle. So this is just

924
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: such a huge swing. Whether they win or lose.

925
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: This win or lose, this will be the turning point

926
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: in the season.

927
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: Once again, Seattle's offensive line, it's not exactly an area

928
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: of strength. Gino got sacked four times against the Jets,

929
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: and now if they have to go into a silent count.

930
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: So translation, Red Sea Bird Gang, you better bring it

931
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: okay on game day, make Gino and that offensive line

932
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: go into the silent count so the Cardinals can get

933
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: after him. Darius Robinson when he had twenty two snaps right,

934
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: and a lot of it from what I could discern

935
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: from the sideline was you know, second and obvious, third,

936
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: obvious passing situations. So If my understanding of the plan

937
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: is correct, reading between the lines, he's going to get

938
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: significantly more snaps in this game. And I think he'll

939
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: get an opportunity to play on both obvious rushing and

940
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: passing downs, and maybe all would get them a chance

941
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: to get a little better rhythm, you know, set guys

942
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: up that kind of thing, you know, for like a

943
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: money down. You know those pass rushers do it right,

944
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: They'll show you one thing and then they got to

945
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: have it down. They go to their got to have

946
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 2: it move that they've been holding in their back pocket

947
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: for the entirety of the game. So I'm still not

948
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: buying the Seahawks offensive line at all. And I think

949
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: the best case scenario for the Cardinals is they turn

950
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: it into the liability that it should be based on

951
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: the personnel you see on the depth chart there. But

952
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: we'll see whether the Cardinals can turn that into reality.

953
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 4: I've got a hot take to close us out.

954
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 2: Here we go.

955
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: Although the only prop I brought was my mini broom

956
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 4: for being fifteen to oh on my picks, I don't

957
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: have anough emit for the hot take.

958
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, but you no go ahead.

959
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: I think you need to officially hand over the crown

960
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 4: of the title last place Seahawks to last place forty

961
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 4: nine Ers, because I believe their window for greatness is

962
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 4: not closing. It's closed. I think we have just seen

963
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 4: the turning point of what will end up being a

964
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 4: transition period and possibly a rebuild when you're having to

965
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 4: start paying players for the forty nine ers, given how

966
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: they've been playing, their injuries, the depth that they are losing,

967
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 4: the performances they're putting out on the field while there's

968
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 4: still a handful of games to be played this year,

969
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 4: and it's a team that is hard to count out.

970
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 4: When you're looking at how things are trending right now,

971
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: it seems like the forty nine ers we have known

972
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: for the last couple of years will be no more.

973
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: Were you thinking this anyways? Did you? Did you feel

974
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: it harder when your number one overall pick, Christian McCaffrey

975
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: seemed to go down for Yet again, we're.

976
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 4: Not even talking about the fact that I have brought

977
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 4: party in another league, Darren, So yes, thank you. You

978
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 4: know I've I was the first person eliminated in that

979
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: family Fantasy league, because.

980
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: That's how you dominated that league.

981
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: Usually I'm in three leagues. Yes I do. But I

982
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 4: had the first pick and I took Christian McCaffrey like a.

983
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 2: Fool when you held the draft. When you held the draft,

984
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: he was already injured.

985
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 4: Correct, It was not known the severity of the injury

986
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: or how long he would be.

987
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: So why your favor it was already buyer beware you

988
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 2: took him umber one.

989
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: Well, at the beginning of the year, they kept saying like, Okay, he's.

990
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 4: Gonna yes, because you remember that all the accusations that

991
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 4: they weren't being fully transparent on the injury report.

992
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

993
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 3: And that was a long time ago.

994
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right though the Niners, oh boy, I mean,

995
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: that's the biggest implosion in Silicon Valley since the dot

996
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: com bust, right, So you're probably about five years old

997
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: back then, you know. All Right, So you know what,

998
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick to my hot take from going into

999
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: the Seattle game. What did I say when the Cardinals

1000
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: were alone by themselves in first place and said, not

1001
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: only can the Cardinals win the division, they should win

1002
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: the division. I'm sticking with that. I'm sticking of that

1003
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: right now because you get this win against this team,

1004
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: it does not deserve to sweep you this year based

1005
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: on what we saw in Seattle with them coming to

1006
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 2: the AS and then boom, it is imminently doable going

1007
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 2: forward the last four games the year, including a season

1008
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: finale against the Niners in the AS where oh, I

1009
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe Josh Dobbs might be their starting quarterback

1010
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: by then.

1011
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: All right, ethical question, real non football ethical question. I

1012
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: have to get to this because it just struck me.

1013
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: So a supermarket worker in Spain was fired because he

1014
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: ate is that croquette? Yes, on the job, but they

1015
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: were good. It was something. It was some of the

1016
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: food that they were going to toss and then he

1017
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 3: ate the croquette or she, I don't know, and they

1018
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: fired that person like ethically, like shouldn't you be able

1019
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 3: to eat some food they're about to throw away?

1020
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: This wasn't the Costanza pulling it out of the garbage.

1021
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: I don't think so, it didn't cross my mind, but

1022
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 3: I think it was just like, you know.

1023
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: As someone who spent many years working in the restaurant industry,

1024
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 4: oh no, they should not be fired. And I'm just

1025
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: gonna leave it at that.

1026
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: As a former bus boy in high school and he's

1027
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: had some croquettes. I did have a one of my

1028
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: co workers is buddy of mine, used to put in

1029
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: false to go orders right oh, and this person never

1030
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: even showed up to pick up their food, and then

1031
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: you know, then he would just happen to take it

1032
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: home until the owner of the restaurant got wise and

1033
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 2: then put a ban on everything like that that shall

1034
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: not eat any of the food at any time because

1035
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: there was a lot of funny business going on with

1036
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: false orders that would make for food that would be available.

1037
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: What kind of restaurant was the food good?

1038
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: It was Chinese restaurant was excellent? Yes it was, Yes,

1039
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 2: it was excellent.

1040
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 3: Yes, actually were hungry just talking about it.

1041
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: I could use an egg roll right now.

1042
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: I worked at a sushi restaurant, Delicious, and they were there.

1043
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 3: Was the food you were somebody potentially having at your restaurant?

1044
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 5: Like?

1045
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: Was that not how do I want to say this?

1046
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: Was it being thrown away? Or was it going to

1047
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: be going to waste?

1048
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: Sometimes?

1049
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, you weren't. You weren't handing out of like

1050
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: a sushi roll with like one less piece?

1051
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 4: No, no, I wasn't. No eating it off the plate

1052
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 4: and putting the pieces together so you can't tell they

1053
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: were missing a sushi piece.

1054
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: No, I just you know again, ethics. We're just talking ethics,

1055
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: that's all.

1056
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 4: Honestly the best part was the bar upstairs. I cared

1057
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 4: sometimes less about getting the free, getting the free.

1058
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: Danny keeps student, Danny keeps incriminating herself. We probably they

1059
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: were well aware. Okay, working smarter, not harder, Danny sirek, Danny,

1060
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: did you want to mention your fifteen year old record.

1061
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 4: One reminding me I don't know if the I don't

1062
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 4: know if the people at home knew that I went

1063
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 4: a perfect fifteen in our picks this past.

1064
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: We're getting the hard rap sign right now. That'll do it.

1065
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,680
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1066
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,120
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