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Speaker 2: at No Dunks, Inc. We start though with the game

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Speaker 2: from last night. Lebron's Lakers beat the Nuggets game five

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Speaker 1: That's that's a trait though, of Nicola Yokich, these frustration fouls.

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Speaker 2: The game and before there it wasn't it took.

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Speaker 1: But looking at this series now, it's not technically a

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Speaker 1: So it's still it's a douchebag sweep, but it's not

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Speaker 2: It's just a five It's just a five game series, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But just a disappointing end to the to the Nuggets

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you think of Lebron's performance surgery thirty eight,

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Speaker 4: Fights like let's take a ride, come with me, come

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Speaker 4: not being able to move out there. Jokic put himself

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Speaker 4: probably didn't matter because Lebron was in takeover mode from

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Speaker 4: the beginning. He backed down Jeremy Grant like you're saying,

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Speaker 5: He did a lefty one.

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Speaker 4: At one point, he did a little righty jelly, he

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Speaker 5: He was just messing around out there.

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Speaker 4: And then in the fourth quarter it was almost reminiscent

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Speaker 5: The King stays the king, And.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think this was a kind of what

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Speaker 4: I'm still the best player in the league. Here. A

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Speaker 4: this guy's getting tired. In the second half. He puts

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Speaker 4: second half. They say, is he washed up? It doesn't

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Speaker 4: make any sense. Lebron is not washed up. He's still

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Speaker 4: the best player on the Lakers. And you know, Anthony

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Speaker 4: Davis was great, but Lebron is the man. What else

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Speaker 4: can you say? The Nuggets had a great season and

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Speaker 4: they just joined the long list of teams who unfortunately

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Speaker 5: It sucks sometimes you run into Lebron James.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lebron was resting during the Western Conference finals, you know,

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Speaker 1: I guess in the sense that it makes the other

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Speaker 5: The run did start.

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Speaker 4: But you got to give it up to the Nuggets.

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Speaker 4: It looked like they were beat last night, and they

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Speaker 5: It wasn't happening.

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Speaker 4: But the quit they never quit, you know, and they

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Speaker 4: It's that in itself, losing to Lebron is not a

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say the West is two loaded for them

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Speaker 3: Come on over, I'll make you millions in endorsements in

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Speaker 3: Right now, his stock has never been higher. But I

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Speaker 3: the team to let go of Paul Millsap perhaps, and

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Speaker 3: they can work around the edges. Yeah, their stars are

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Speaker 3: If Gary Harris is the guy that you know, we

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Speaker 3: Along with Jeremy Grant, I don't think they're far off whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: I think there's because the money from Paul Millsap's coming

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Speaker 4: Bring back Grant if you can. I give him whatever

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Speaker 4: or Barton. Both of those guys are on pretty solid

431
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,880
Speaker 4: deals and would likely have some suitors around the league,

432
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,000
Speaker 4: So maybe you can add a couple of players rather

433
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 4: than one guy on like a fourteen to nineteen million

434
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 4: dollar deal. It just seems to me that Michael Porter

435
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 4: Junior's got to get a lot better to really raise

436
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 4: the ceiling on this team to be able to play

437
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 4: clutch minutes, to be able to stay on the court defensively.

438
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,120
Speaker 4: It's also the first season he's been playing, and Michael

439
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 4: Malone will have the entire offseason to figure out schemes

440
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,120
Speaker 4: that kind of hide him. Maybe he should just watch

441
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,200
Speaker 4: a bunch of Kyle Korver tapes. That's a guy who's

442
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 4: not an athletic guy, but is in the right spot

443
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 4: defensively all the time. There are bad defenders in the

444
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 4: NBA who are able to stay on the court just

445
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,639
Speaker 4: because they know what they're doing. Michael Porter Junior doesn't

446
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 4: necessarily know what he's doing, so a little coaching for him,

447
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 4: a little bit of tinkering. But the fact of the

448
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,120
Speaker 4: matter is that the Nuggets have two all star caliber

449
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 4: players who have played together in the playoffs a lot already.

450
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 4: They know who they are, they have an identity. Now

451
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 4: you just got to up the talent a little bit

452
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 4: because the problem is they are still in the Western Conference.

453
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 4: The Lakers are still going to be their next year.

454
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 4: The Clippers are still going to be there next year.

455
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 4: The Mavericks are coming. There's a lot of great teams.

456
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 2: The Warriors are back.

457
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's not a guarantee they're back. But when

458
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 4: you've got Murray and Jokicic, you've got a solid foundation.

459
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 2: Anything to add to that, well.

460
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Speaker 1: I just think they do need to replace those Paul

461
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 1: millsapp minutes though. Somehow they'd need an experienced veteran who

462
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 1: can help them rebound as well. I think that's one thing.

463
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Speaker 1: If Michael Porter Jr. Can become that guy who can

464
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 1: go out and get you those rebounds, that's great, but

465
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure you can trust him yet. And the

466
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 1: Gary Harris situation, I mean, they still have forty million dollars,

467
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 1: which I don't think he's quite worth that. I think

468
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 1: definitely Jeremy Grant, he's going to opt out. I can't

469
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 1: see why he went into that contract. So if I'm

470
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: the Nuggets, I would certainly make him the priorities. Let's

471
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 1: see if we can resign him. And that's probably going

472
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,919
Speaker 1: to cost you fifteen to twenty million as well. So

473
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Speaker 1: if you can maybe move on from either Gary Harris

474
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 1: or Will Barton, is probably gonna cost you one of

475
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: those guys. If you have to to make the math work,

476
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: then that's what you do. It's hard with Will Bartney

477
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: wasn't there.

478
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 5: We couldn't.

479
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: We didn't see him, So, you know, is he a

480
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: part of their future? I'm not sure. But they've definitely

481
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: got the talent, you know there. I know, like Monte

482
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: Morris coming off the bench. You know, they've got the

483
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 1: pieces in place there. It's just whether or not they

484
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: will all come together. And I think the biggest X

485
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: factor is Michael Porter Junior. I think there's no question

486
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 1: about his offensive talent. It's just whether or not. And

487
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: he's a young guy, so he's going to take him

488
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 1: a few years before he really matures and understands defensively

489
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 1: what's needed of him. But if he can, then that's

490
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: a pretty devastating offensive out team they have out on

491
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: the court at their best. You know, with Jamal Murray there,

492
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 1: he can get into the lane any time, he can

493
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: hit the three. Yokich, we know how good he is.

494
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 1: And if you've got a six to ten guy who

495
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: can hit threes and go inside and score, I mean

496
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: that is incredible for the Nuggets. So it's at that

497
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: stage where it's like all this potential and all this talent,

498
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: will it come together or will it will it not?

499
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's really the question here for the Nugget's

500
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: going forward. But I'd certainly be feeling pretty good about

501
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: them if I was, if I was a Nuggets because

502
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: you've got the young guys growing together, and that's what

503
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: I think is important. They've already got a lot of

504
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: playoff experience as well, so you think this will play

505
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: off at some point. It's just you know, on Piper,

506
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: it's always it always looks different to actually going out

507
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: on the court and making it happen.

508
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least their stars up here, and you know

509
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,719
Speaker 2: the Taco big game about loving playing with each other too.

510
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 2: I think that's huge, Right you'll kitchen Murray, I'm with you.

511
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: Retain grant if you can. I like this idea of

512
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 2: maybe moving on. I mean, you have a lot of

513
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: sort of similar guys like you guys are saying maybe

514
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: you move one of them. Good thing is they have

515
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: a lot of their picks. Michael Porter Jr. You're hoping

516
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 2: grows into like an even better player, especially defensively. But

517
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 2: I will say, as much as I love Jamal Murray

518
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 2: Kitchener's finest, he was a superstar in this bubble and

519
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: in the playoffs that he was. But you got to

520
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: do that now for a whole regular season, and I

521
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: think you can. You know, why not this kid Obviously

522
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 2: he's got a lot of heart. He gets better and

523
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: better and better. But that's the thing, the consistency. Can

524
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: you do this, because that's the real true superstar. Let's

525
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: be honest to do it basically every night, every night

526
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: during the regular season. You know, mark the guy down

527
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: for twenty five and if he's a point guard, you

528
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: know he's giving you eight to ten. Asists like, that's

529
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 2: not easy. There's not many people that can actually do that.

530
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: So I believe you can get to that status and will.

531
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Speaker 2: But will that come in this next year? It's still

532
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 2: a lot to ask. Or will he have those nights

533
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 2: where he has his Jamal Murray four of you know,

534
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: sixteen nights, and maybe he's a little sloppy with the

535
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: ball and maybe we start seeing teams get a little

536
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 2: more aggressive at doubling him. I mean, that's pretty wild

537
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: too there, the aggressive double coming from the Lakers. I mean,

538
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: right decision, Why wouldn't you. Guy's been a killer in

539
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 2: elimination games. Get it out of his hands and he's hobbled,

540
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 2: makes somebody else beat him. But ah, I'm excited for

541
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: this team and definitely, of course not a disappointing season,

542
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: a weird, weird bubble run coming back from the three ones,

543
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 2: but damn was that fun and the Murray performances and

544
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: the Yokic performances. I know, he like sort of petered

545
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: out because of fouls and has this any and coming

546
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: running into Anthony Davis and Dwight and stuff like that

547
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 2: in the conference final, but he was pretty damn special

548
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: too in a lot of those games, you know, in

549
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: series before this one. So pretty exciting stuff for the Nuggets.

550
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the YouTube chat is going crazy for bull

551
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 4: Bull as well. Remember the bull Ball game early in

552
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: the bubble. That guy's a free agent as well. If

553
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 4: you're talking about a potential Anthony Davis stopper, you gott

554
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 4: to invest in bull Ball.

555
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: Bring back bull Ball, Bubble Bull.

556
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: You have sixteen to ten and six blocks in the

557
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: first game game. Yeah, and he had that incredible bounce possible.

558
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt that there's something there with

559
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: ball ball. Exactly what it is, who knows, But he

560
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: was hitting threes in transition pulling up. He had a

561
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,239
Speaker 1: Deason hand who's blocking shots. He was rebounding. I mean,

562
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: there's a row for him in the league. I'm very

563
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: excited for him, hype he does get to get some

564
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: minutes and get some action out there, because it'd be

565
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: great to see him.

566
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 3: It's a weird offseason for them because Jokic goes into

567
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 3: the offseason basically his tutorials will be, don't hit guys,

568
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 3: don't foul guys, so you can stay on the floor.

569
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 3: That's his number one objective. Just don't be dumb. And

570
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 3: then you can't take away their other superstar player like

571
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: the Lake did. When he Yokich went off the floor.

572
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 3: They said, oh, we'll take out We'll just get get

573
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 3: after Jamal Murray over and over and over again. He

574
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: really shorthanded his team there. But Jokic was incredible. And

575
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: the other thing that goes into this offseason is Michael

576
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: Porter Junior just learning how to play defense. That's the strange,

577
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 3: strange thing. I always thought that basketball drill where guys

578
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: would just take charges. You just sit on the post

579
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: and a guy would just come flying at you with

580
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: the ball and you just take it in the chest

581
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 3: was a useless drill. But Michael Porter Junior should be

582
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: doing that drill all offseason. I didn't. I don't know

583
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 3: if I was impressed by Michael Porter Junior, like turning

584
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 3: to the side when Kyle Kuzma came into him. I'm

585
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: unable to take a charge because he's just never done

586
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: that before. I'm six foot ten, I can just block

587
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 3: your shot. So I don't know if I was more

588
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: impressed or more stupefied by his inability to play defense,

589
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 3: like just it's not there quite yet. So yeah, if

590
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 3: he can stay on the floor, obviously he raises their ceiling.

591
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: But Michael Malone didn't want to play him because he's

592
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 3: such a liability on that end. So he's he's just

593
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: got to learn how to add a ball. And they've

594
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: got a lot of talent up and down their roster.

595
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: If just a matter that coming together.

596
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: What was the play from last night's game? Was it

597
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior going off the backboard to himself? Was

598
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis's block? I mean, this is something else I'm forgetting.

599
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: Uh, the off the backboard was pretty good because usually

600
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: it comes you know, we've seen that from you know,

601
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: Kobe or Tracy McGrady, whoever it is. And when you

602
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: see Michael Porter really thuted off.

603
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 5: The back Yeah, it shocked it.

604
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 1: And Kuzman was kind of like, is that allowed?

605
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: I mean she had is, but it should it be.

606
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 5: I don't know.

607
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Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of like it's it's bending a

608
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: rule a little bit, isn't it really, Because you're not

609
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: allowed to catch it if it goes in the air

610
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: without hitting anything, but if you thought it off the backboard,

611
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: you are allowed to say.

612
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: I have talked about this for years, that you have

613
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: a sixth player out on the floor. It's the backboard

614
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: telling you one of these teams, one of these coaches,

615
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: one of these days is going to figure it out

616
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 2: and there's gonna be like sets running it up, like

617
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 2: just throwing it off the backboard. You're right, this is legal,

618
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: or you can use it to your advantage.

619
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: But then that day's block, especially in slow motion. You

620
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: know Michael ported you, and again you know this is experience.

621
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: Like if you're a young team, you don't know you've

622
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: got to go up and just hammer that as hard

623
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: as you can because if you miss, you're more likely

624
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: to get a foul. But if you go up kind

625
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: of soft like you did, you're putting it up for

626
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: the shop. Blocker to go and get it so and

627
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: I noticed that a couple of times with the Nuggets

628
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: last night. I thought, offensively, they just weren't aggressive enough.

629
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: And that's something that you just learn in going up

630
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: against a team like the Lakers, like Lebron driving into

631
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 1: the paint last night, going in trying to draw contact,

632
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: trying to get fouls, because that's what experienced teams do

633
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: is they try to make put the pressure on the

634
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: referees to make those calls. And the Nuggets a couple

635
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: of times it's like they had open shots and they

636
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: made an extra pass, and it's like you've got to

637
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: hit those shots or you've got to try to draw

638
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: the contact from the defender. So you know, they'll learn

639
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: from this, which is fine, you know, you don't. No

640
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: one really expected the young team to be able to

641
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: take down the Lakers, you know, in seven. I mean

642
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: I had them in six, but who cares. But you know,

643
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: that's again, that's just how you learn over time by

644
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Speaker 1: going up against team that have been there before and

645
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Speaker 1: now had to finish off a series.

646
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Speaker 2: Right, we said it from Game one, it felt like

647
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: the Lakers were the big brother in this series to

648
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: the younger brother Nuggets, and it sort of appeared again

649
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 2: in Game five. I thought, especially yeah, with Lebron attacking, attacking, attacking,

650
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: and I don't think. Look, I don't know. Maybe Nuggets

651
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: fans were upset, the Yoka fellas were dumb, but it

652
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 2: wasn't the referees screwing the Nuggets in Game five or

653
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: anything like that in my opinion.

654
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 4: I mean, I got some some nice calls for sure,

655
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 4: like on that one continuation where he got fouled, had

656
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 4: time to look at the refre that one was conversation

657
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 4: with him, and then finish at the rim. The next

658
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 4: time down, he like, who's he bowl over? He bowls

659
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 4: over somebody underneath? Yeah, bowlsover Murray underneath. Kicks it out

660
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 4: to Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis gives us the grossest celebration

661
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Speaker 4: in the bubble.

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Speaker 5: Yes, excuse me, sir.

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Speaker 4: Those were a couple of sketchy ones, but it ultimately

664
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Speaker 4: didn't matter because the big shots from Lebron were, you know,

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Speaker 4: from eighteen to twenty seven feet out right.

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Speaker 5: Ye?

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Speaker 3: Should he have done that? Anthony Davis rubbed his.

668
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: Well, he was doing celebration.

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Speaker 5: We celebrations immediately.

670
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he's ready, man, he's ready for a deep

671
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: postseason run with all those celebrations.

672
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Speaker 2: Oh, tass, you sort of slipped it in right at

673
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: the beginning because I saw this on ESPN. It was

674
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: like their version of true or false and they had

675
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis. They call it real or not, but true

676
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: or false. Basically, Anthony Davis is the very early favorite

677
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: for Finals MVP. Now, that was the question before Game five,

678
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: Like you said, Lebron saying no, no, no, no. If

679
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: we're going to the finals, it's going to be my

680
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: finals MVP, and I'm just gonna remind everyone. But I

681
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: think it's a it's sort of interesting. I think it's

682
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: plausible right that that ad though I guess it depends

683
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: who they're playing to Bams matched up against them, you

684
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: could take a d down a little notch there, and

685
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: then maybe it is there for the taking if the

686
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: Lakers win. Of course, I don't know Trady have an

687
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: opinion on an early finals MVP favorite without even knowing

688
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: the second team.

689
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Speaker 4: Lebron, Yeah, I think Lebron is the finals MVP favorite.

690
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Speaker 4: Has he ever won a championship and not been the

691
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Speaker 4: Finals MVP?

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Speaker 5: Nope? Yeah.

693
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Speaker 2: Can you can you picture a world though, where Anthony

694
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Speaker 2: Davis or let me throw out a Danny Green catch.

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Speaker 1: No, no, not Danny Green. But you know, like Dwayne

696
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: Wade when he wanted in two thousand and six, you know,

697
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Speaker 1: like Anthony Davis should be the guy who's leads the

698
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Speaker 1: Lakers in scoring. You know, he should be the best

699
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Speaker 1: player on the court. That's the I mean, like in

700
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Speaker 1: terms of he's the one who the offense should be

701
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: flowing through. Again, we've seen Lebron can do it, but

702
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Lebron doesn't need want to have to do that five

703
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: or six games. So yes, I can see a scenario. However,

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Speaker 1: I'm picking Lebron James.

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Speaker 3: Also, Anthony Anthony Davis did lead the team in scoring

706
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Speaker 3: during the conference finals at thirty one to Lebron's twenty seven.

707
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Speaker 3: But you got to remember they're also potentially going up

708
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Speaker 3: against the maam Heat and Andre Iguodala, withdri Goodala winning

709
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: that Finals MVP in twenty fifteen. So I think he's

710
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Speaker 3: the favorite. He is the favorite. I think that thinks

711
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: a huge difference Lebron going up against bam Adebayer. He's

712
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: not going to be wanting to go of a hoop

713
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Speaker 3: the same way he did at the end of this game,

714
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Speaker 3: after he got that flow and Yokich went down. It's

715
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: a different matchup for.

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Speaker 2: Sure, But does Bam have more of an impact on

717
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: reducing Eighties chances of finals MVP or Lebron's chances of

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00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: finals MVP.

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Speaker 3: That's why Danny Green wins it?

720
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, I'm telling it's gonna be a long card.

721
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: It's gonna be well, no, no, it is very difficult

722
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: to imagine a Lakers championship not resulting in a finals

723
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: MVP for Lebron. Very tough. But I guess if eights, yeah,

724
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: putting up you know, thirties and fifteens, there's it's possible.

725
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: It's possible.

726
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: He did hit the game or the series changing bucket

727
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 4: in this series, right, like the Game two game winner.

728
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: That was Anthony Davis's biggest career moment, and that was

729
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: the biggest moment in this series, right, that really turned things.

730
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Speaker 4: But it's either going to be Lebron or Jimmy Butler

731
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Speaker 4: that wins finals MVP.

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Speaker 3: He lock that in right now?

733
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Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, I guess you've got the heat going to

734
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Speaker 2: the finals. What are you going to say there?

735
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Speaker 5: Lee?

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Speaker 1: Oh, Danny Green, I'm very interested to see how he

737
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: starts off the finals, because we remember for the Spurs,

738
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Speaker 1: I think it was the first fall games he had

739
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: a thirty threes or something like that against the Heat,

740
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: So will he do it again? Because Danny Green, there's

741
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: a couple of times he's out on the court and

742
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, he looks washed. He looks washed.

743
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Speaker 1: But then he hit a couple of threes I think

744
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: in the end, like a couple Jamal Murray. Yeah, because

745
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: there were times when he was one on one with

746
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray and I'm like, Jamal, you have got to

747
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 1: murder this guy right now. You'll get past him as

748
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: quick as you want. But Danny Green held firm. But

749
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: there's just a couple of times where it's it's like

750
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: he can brick some of those threes as well, and

751
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: other times it's like a swish. It's like it's either

752
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: a beautiful shot or a completely a complete dog of

753
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: a shot there from Danny Green. So but his experience

754
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: and that's what they've got in there for. You know,

755
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: stick him in the corner. He's going to get his

756
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: chance to see I think he hit six threes in

757
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: the game for the for the Raptors last year.

758
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Speaker 2: I was going to say, I remember him having one really.

759
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: Big yeah, and then he probably hit like maybe two

760
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Speaker 1: threes for the rest of the series.

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Speaker 4: So hit it a crazy pass in game sex right,

762
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Speaker 4: like in the last minute, Danny Green, he giveth and

763
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 4: he take it away.

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Speaker 2: Danny Green experiment for sure.

765
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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: So well, of course, we define know who the Lakers

767
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: are playing in the finals, and then we'll do a

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Speaker 2: whole podcast in NBA Finals preview and predictions and all that.

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Speaker 2: Social media is now such a part of following the

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00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: league that it's kind of hard to remember basketball without it.

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00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: The posters, the memes, the snark, the fashion. It's just

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Speaker 2: part of the NBA eco ecosystem, excuse me now, and

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Speaker 2: we kind of take it for granted. But it wasn't

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Speaker 2: always like this, and it's crazy to think how we

817
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Speaker 2: missed out on so much. So which players or moments

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00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: from the pre Twitter era. So Twitter, launched in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and six would have been great for social media.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine NBA Twitter after Pippins dunk on ewing

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Speaker 2: or Iverson stepping over Tylou? What would Wilt Chamberlain's IG

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Speaker 2: stories be like rated art? And who would watch Bill

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Speaker 2: Walton's live stream from yet another Grateful Dead concert, Trey Kirbywood,

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Speaker 2: That's for sure. I'd love to hear your ideas. Pinta

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Speaker 2: Foster's pork scratchings yagerbombs. That's from Sam in Poland. This

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Speaker 2: is a really fun question. Players or moments from the

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Speaker 2: pre Twitter era that you would have loved to see

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Speaker 2: with social media in our lives trait.

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Speaker 4: Sure seems like Wilt Chamberlain's IG stories would be exactly

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Speaker 4: like Ty Lawson's IG stories, So yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 4: those would be approved on Instagram most of the time,

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Speaker 4: but there would be a lot of great stuff. We

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Speaker 4: kind of just went through the Last Dance in May.

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Speaker 4: That was fun reliving during the social media. Basically all

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Speaker 4: of the Chicago Bulls moments from the nineties, which were

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Speaker 4: huge stories back in the day, which was even before

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Speaker 4: the twenty four hour news cycle, would have been crazy.

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Speaker 4: But for me, I just wish we could have all

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Speaker 4: the great Knicks fans we've had today during the Knicks

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Speaker 4: choking era in the nineteen nineties, like Charles Smith's layups

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Speaker 4: getting blocked five times versus the Bowls in ninety three,

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Speaker 4: or Reggie putting up twenty five in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety four hit Spike Lee with the choke,

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Speaker 4: or when they blew a fourth quarter lead in Game

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Speaker 4: seven of the ninety four finals, or when Reggie had

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Speaker 4: eight points and nine seconds in the ninety five playoffs

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Speaker 4: versus the Knicks, or that same Playoffs versus the Knicks

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Speaker 4: when Patrick Ewing missed the finger roll at the rim

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Speaker 4: in Game seven. Would have been great to get seth

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Speaker 4: Rosenthal's opinion back then, or maybe see what Jason Concepsio

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Speaker 4: and puts on NBA desktop as his team is completely

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Speaker 4: melting down. It was fun watching the Knicks choke back

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Speaker 4: in the nineties, but I was just like on SportsCenter,

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Speaker 4: NBA on NBC.

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Speaker 2: It would be great to just live it the entire day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the memes, the.

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Speaker 1: Memes that we were that Charles Smith miss botch layout

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Speaker 1: would have been someone would have been like meming, say

859
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Speaker 1: at the bottom would have been Charles Smith, me and

860
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: the boar and my goals or twenty twenty or something,

861
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, and just like can't finish it off.

862
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: Or about gap of the guy like walking out carrying

863
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: all those cleaning supplies and he just keeps going everywhere.

864
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 5: You know.

865
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of world Chamblain stories, what about Dennis Rodman in

866
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: Vegas for thee for forty eight hours or whatever it

867
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: was in Vegas? There his story, because you know, he

868
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't have cared at all. He would have been putting

869
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: everything up there. Someone would have said, I'm in Vegas

870
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: here with Dennis rod but hey, are you supposed to

871
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: be with the bulls And he's just got a big

872
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: fat cigar loo you know, it's smoking away there. Wouldn't

873
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: have had a care in the world for the conspiracy theorists. Back,

874
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: let's go back to the Frozen envelope. Imagine that back

875
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: in eighty five where it's like, oh, the Knicks are

876
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: they going to get the number one pick and draft

877
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing And then all of a sudden it comes

878
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: out that just everyone be big rigged, and then the

879
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: Knicks fans.

880
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: Would be like, we're back, We're back. Championship, Baby, championship.

881
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: That's a great answers passing into that.

882
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to decide if it's off the court

883
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 3: stuff like that, because I think the best NBA moment

884
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: and Clipper or in sorry, in Twitter history was the

885
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: Clippers and trying to keep DeAndre Jordan locked in the house.

886
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 3: An off court moment, I think that was the best,

887
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: But I think an on court moment would be a

888
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 3: good A good one on one would have been Sean

889
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 3: Kemp and Alton Lister the point, you know, a lot,

890
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: a lot of great memes, you know, sort of what

891
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: likely was saying there. You know this guy twenty twenty,

892
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: you know, and this guy pointing at whatever. You know,

893
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: you could just do whatever you want on Kemp's face

894
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 3: versus Lister's face. That would be good stuff.

895
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: Elijah on embarrassing David Robinson after the MVP was pretty it. Yeah,

896
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: there'd be a lot of good stuff coming out of that,

897
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: that little storyline there for sure. So that is a

898
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: great question, good stuff. Sam will throw that at everybody

899
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: in the YouTube chat everybody listening. Later you can tweet

900
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: at us at no dunk sink. Maybe we'll compile some

901
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: of the best answers either throughout the show or on

902
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: another one. That's a great, great email.

903
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Speaker 3: Next one here, good day the Baseball Jones. I have

904
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: to say I disagree with task on bunting in that

905
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 3: situation to break up a no hitter. That's right. We

906
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: talked about it yesterday. A bunt broke up a no hitter,

907
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: and as I've learned, the situation is very key here.

908
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: So back to the email. It could be because I'm

909
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: a lifelong Indians fan and that's who did it. But

910
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: it's more of the fact that Delino Deshields Junior is

911
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: like the league leader in bunts. He's always trying to

912
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: bunt for a hit. It was a seventh inning, there's

913
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: a man on first and no out's in a one

914
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: run game. Even if he bunts and just moves him over,

915
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: at least he has a sacrifice. But there's a guy

916
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: in scoring position late in the game. Anyway, this was

917
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 3: my attempt to get some more baseball talk on the show.

918
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 3: Does basketball have any unwritten rules like baseball does? That's

919
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: from longtime Wes Mangum. Of course basketball does. Show clock

920
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: is off at the end of the game, you're up big,

921
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 3: you shouldn't shoot. But we're not here to talk about

922
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: basketball unwritten rules. This is the baseball Jones Wes. So

923
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: it's an interesting thing there infield, was playing way back

924
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: against a guy Delino Deshields, junior Matt Austin's favorite baseball player,

925
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: and it's he is a guy who bunts. He doesn't

926
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: lead the league, but he bunts a lot for hits.

927
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: And even if he sacrificed him over, as Wes said,

928
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: he gets him in scoring position with one out, which

929
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: is key, and a sacrifice bunt, it doesn't count as

930
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: an out, it doesn't count as an app that and

931
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: it doesn't count as a hit. So it wouldn't have

932
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: broken up the no hitter if you just sacrificed him over.

933
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: But he got a clear hit because they were playing

934
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 3: way back and they thought, I guess that he wasn't

935
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: gonna go, he wasn't gonna bunt. So that's the situation.

936
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: And now I'm okay with it because he is a

937
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: guy matters here. Yeah, he is a guy who gets on.

938
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: And it is one of those lame no hit situations

939
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: that's coming from multiple pictures. It's not one guy going

940
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: nine innings. It's a guy who started and there's a reliever,

941
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: then there's another reliever. It's an eleven pitcher. It wasn't

942
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: an eleven picture a tempt but he actually Delino said

943
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: after the game, I'm watching baseball press conferences now. He

944
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 3: said after the game that he had no idea he

945
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: broke up the no hitter in the seventh inning. It's

946
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: a little surprising, but I guess you're in the game.

947
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: They don't really care.

948
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: I would say it's not surprising, especially if there's a

949
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: bunch of pitchers coming in and oe right, Maybe it's

950
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: more likely you're aware that there's a no hitter going

951
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: when it's the one picture thing. Shot, we can't hit

952
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: this guy. I mean, I gotta hit off this guy.

953
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 2: Where's your hand? If you got to hit off this guy, heya,

954
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: sunflower seeds, if you got to hit off this guy.

955
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: No, no, Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true. And

956
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 3: there was a lot of walks in this game as well.

957
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: I guess that guy had just walked. Delano said, I

958
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: can just get him over and then we can just

959
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: crack a then he scores and then we're all tied up.

960
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: But it is still the same way to break up

961
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: a no hitter. But I guess it's it's not against

962
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: the rules. It's not against the unwritten rules. It's all right,

963
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: it's all right. I mean there's definitely a faction of

964
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: baseball fans. I saw and read it angry, but then

965
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: the other side, then the other side says, Then the

966
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: other say, shut up, you unwritten old guy rules. You

967
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: can flip a bat, you can bunt a no hitter.

968
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 3: So there you go.

969
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: I had baseball flipping bat is frowned upon. I mean

970
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: that time Jose Baltista did it for the Blue Jays.

971
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: That was awesome, that was so cool. I mean, what's

972
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: wrong with that? I mean it's like it's like taunting,

973
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: which is fine in the NBA. You hit a three,

974
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: you talk a little trash. I mean that's the same thing,

975
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: isn't it?

976
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 4: Am I am?

977
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 6: I not?

978
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I mean the NFL used to have

979
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: the rule where you could score you score a touchdown

980
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: and you can't celebrate, right, yeah, I couldn't do anything.

981
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 3: Oh if you do have a nice little a nice

982
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: little bat with a cricket bat and you throw it

983
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 3: into the stands and you say, I'm the man.

984
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: Cricket cricket, how do you how do you? You know? It's

985
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: such a gentlemanly game. I assume ly too. I know

986
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: that as much. So like what can you can you

987
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: show somebody up on the.

988
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: Cricket pick So if you get hit for a home run,

989
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: which is called a six in cricket because you get

990
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: six runs often, you'll find the next ball from the

991
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: ball is one that's a little bit of a head hunter.

992
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 5: They go around but.

993
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: Not you know, so it bounces into the pitch to

994
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: try to sort of say, oh, we'll screw you. But

995
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: see what what kind of backfire though is the batsman

996
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: is like, I know what's coming now, so he can

997
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: get ready and try to like whack it, hook it

998
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: over his shoulder to try to hit six more. So

999
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: you know you see that. But you know they wear

1000
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: the helmets and stuff like that, so it's not super

1001
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: dangerous like it.

1002
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: Has a batter ever hit a sex and then dropped

1003
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: like a dx like you know, chopped to.

1004
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: It, because because you don't drop the bat in cricket,

1005
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like baseball like that. So you

1006
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: hold onto bat.

1007
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: And hold the bat.

1008
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: You know, like thist yeah, or I mean you might

1009
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: sort of been watching for three days, nobody's done anything.

1010
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: After you make contact, you might sort of admire you

1011
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: shot a little bit, but like a little well, yeah,

1012
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: you hold your bat and sort of you know, like that,

1013
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: and then you do a bit of what they call

1014
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: they call gardening, when you just go and then dab

1015
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: the pitch as if like, oh, yeah, there was a

1016
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: little spot in the grass there that poked up, I'm

1017
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: just gonna dab that down.

1018
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy just started gardening after he hit a

1019
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: six on you with disrespect.

1020
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a few incidents in cricket like that,

1021
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, where where they get on each other's nerves,

1022
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: where the pole is trying to intimidate the batsman. But yeah,

1023
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: you don't really, I mean, you don't really see too

1024
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: much sort of showing up because it's I don't know,

1025
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's just because you've got helmets on

1026
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's it's it's not like it's

1027
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: not a huge trash talking game. They do it, do

1028
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: talk a little bit, but.

1029
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 5: Not not tons.

1030
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: Recently, some guy in the stands of a cricket match,

1031
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: it's only jack to six, he's hacking a dark just

1032
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 4: catches it casually, chucks it back, even he didn't celebrate,

1033
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 4: Even he's not showing up the rest of the fans like,

1034
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 4: now whatever, that.

1035
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: Was the coolest thing I have ever seen. Because he

1036
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: had the cigarette in his mouth. He just gave his

1037
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: jeans a little city. He sat back.

1038
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 5: There, and that guy's a cameraman.

1039
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: Cameraman what yeah, yeah, he was working. Well that's what

1040
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: I could make out from the commentary. Well, yeah, so

1041
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: he's the sort of he's the studio cameraman, but during

1042
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: play he doesn't need to be working, so sitting down

1043
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: the end there. But the way he took, he took

1044
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: a lot. That just threw it back out there. He's

1045
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, cool as anything.

1046
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: Has anybody caught the ball and run off with it?

1047
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 2: Are you just.

1048
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 5: Encouraging Yeah you sort of.

1049
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you sort of throw it back. I guess yeah.

1050
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: But but that's one of those things like if you

1051
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: make a good catch, you know you gotta like, yeah,

1052
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: I took a great catch.

1053
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: It happens to beat Yeah, yeah, I love any time. Yeah,

1054
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: the guy's either drinking a beer or holding the baby

1055
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: and then done somehow still catches. Those are great.

1056
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: You're saying, like strop the baby sometimes and he's like

1057
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: oh shit, you know, it's like come on, man, all.

1058
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: Right, thanks for tuning into the cricket Jones boy.

1059
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: Nice great great email there, Wes, thank you for that.

1060
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: Let's take another quick break before tweet to the night.

1061
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm tas Melisa no dunce on the athletic. Do

1062
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Speaker 3: you want to walk into a room with your chest

1063
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Speaker 3: puffed out, your neck long, and your shoulders broad? Of

1064
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1065
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Speaker 3: can give me the confidence I need to do just that.

1066
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Speaker 3: Indocino hooked me up with the gear that fits perfectly.

1067
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Speaker 3: I dreaded getting dressed for my Zoom meetings, but now

1068
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Speaker 3: I changed for each one with a big smile on

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: Time for tweet of the night.

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Speaker 3: Tweet over night, wow twit.

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Speaker 2: Twitter.

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Speaker 4: The Los Angeles Lakers are back in the NBA Finals

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Speaker 4: for the first time in a decade. So who else

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Speaker 4: could tweet of the night come from the Magic.

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Speaker 2: Johnson who logged on to tweet last night.

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Speaker 4: I'll try and do it in my lee reading a

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Speaker 4: Magic Johnson's tweet voice.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 5: When Lebron James.

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Speaker 4: Signed with the Lakers, he told us he would get

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Speaker 4: us back to the NBA Finals, and he's definitely kept

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Speaker 4: his words.

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Speaker 2: That's actually a short tweet for Magic.

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Speaker 4: He has definitely kept his word. The Lakers indeed are

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Speaker 4: back in the NBA finals.

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Speaker 5: Magic stras.

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Speaker 1: Magic Strap's fault must just be loaded though for those

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Speaker 1: into the game, because he often just built out like

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Speaker 1: three or four in a row, and it's all the

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Speaker 1: same sort of stuff. Like you know, Lebron James became

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Speaker 1: the first Laker since James Worthy to have thirty eight points.

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Speaker 2: That's all. That's all Magic tweeted last night. That's showing

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Speaker 2: were straint like, yeah tweeted more. Yeah, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: we didn't see like Anthony Davis his first finals and

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Speaker 2: Dwight Howard, I mean, and Ronto like chalaging their career.

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Speaker 2: You know, I assumed he just went.

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Speaker 4: To he did say, with Lebron and Anthony Davis playing

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Speaker 4: great and the role players contributing, I believe the Lakers

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Speaker 4: will win the NBA cha and ship making a prediction.

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Speaker 1: Wow, okay, I love Magic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And of course he had nice things to say

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Speaker 4: about the Denver Nuggets. The Denver Nuggets have a lot

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Speaker 4: to be proud of, Jamal Murray and Nicola Jokicchen the

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Speaker 4: rest of the young cores will have many chances to

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Speaker 4: win the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's you know, talking about that viewer question we

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Speaker 1: had before Magic Magic had Twitter back in the day

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Speaker 1: when he was playing still.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, I think about that. Yeah, after every game,

1129
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: thanking the opposition, every guy on the team, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Just doing a Twitter Bucks score basically.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I think that the only team Magic has ever trashed

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00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: was the Clippers for blowing down three only last series.

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Speaker 4: But every other team he'll say something nice about you.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, absolutely. All right, Well, let's get to tonight's game.

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll start wrapping this up East Finals Game six. Obviously,

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00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: the Celtics in the Heat off, the Heat win, They're

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Speaker 2: gonna go to the Finals and take on Lebron James

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Speaker 2: and the Lakers. The Celtics win, we get a Game seven, baby.

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Speaker 2: So what's one thing to watch for tonight, Trey, And

1141
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 2: let's ultimately hear your prediction for this game.

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Speaker 4: I am tuning in to see a classic duel tonight.

1143
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: I want it to be Jimmy Butler versus Jason Tatum.

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00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 4: They've both been solid.

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Speaker 5: In this series.

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00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: They both have had some really high points, but we

1147
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 4: haven't seen the best of them. At the same time,

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Speaker 4: it feels like we need something that could end up

1149
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: on a YouTube clip. Insane duel, crazy highlights unstoppable, clutch,

1150
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 4: We need all of these big letter words. Ultimately, I'm

1151
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: taking the Celtics to force a Game seven, But I

1152
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 4: mean who knows, honestly, who knows the Heat are going

1153
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: to have a much better effort than they had in

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Speaker 4: the previous game. Whereas the Celtics, it's just the question

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Speaker 4: of can they continue to bring the effort that they

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00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: brought in their wins that we haven't seen in their losses.

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Speaker 4: You know, their season is on the line. You'd expect

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00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: a great effort from Boston and a great effort from Miami.

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Speaker 5: Give me the Celtics tonight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wow, he says, we're going to Game seven, baby

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Speaker 2: task what do you think? What's something you're watching too?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Baby? Yeah? Well, I think the Heat will be

1163
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: a little bit more disciplined, a little bit more ready

1164
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: to play, just because that's how the ball bounces after

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00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 3: a loss, and a guy like Tyler Hero won't get

1166
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: in foul trouble, which really hurt him. But I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at Goren Dragic. He's the guy. He is their outlet

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Speaker 3: when things aren't going well, just give it to gore

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Speaker 3: On and he'll make something happen. He's been phenomenal. And

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Speaker 3: again everybody talking about Jimmy or Hero or Bam, and

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Speaker 3: Goren will be the gay to come through for them,

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Speaker 3: be a little bit unheralded if they no matter if

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00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: they win or lose. He is always unheralded, but he's

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Speaker 3: definitely been the w CF m VP if they come

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Speaker 3: out on top. All right, ECF, So I guess I

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Speaker 3: got a w TAB open. So I was looking at

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Speaker 3: the Western Conference final stats. But he is their MVP

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Speaker 3: thus far, and he'll again he's going to be big.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the Heat? You think the Heat win tonight?

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Speaker 3: I think so, But yeah, I'm hoping for a game

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Speaker 3: seven of course.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Lee, what do you.

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Speaker 1: Got Kemba Walker? I want to see him have another

1184
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: big game. He's had a couple of okay games, but

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Speaker 1: I think he really needs to put his stamp on

1186
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: a game. And so I'm looking for him to come

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00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: out aggressive, hit that little mid range because he can

1188
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: get into that key pretty easily without too much without

1189
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: too much defense. So I think Kim is going to

1190
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Speaker 1: try to exploit that tonight and if he can get going,

1191
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: then opens the floor up for the Celtics as well.

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00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: Get Jaln Brown shooting threes. You know, Marcus Smart's gonna

1193
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: have a six to three point a game in this series.

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Speaker 1: It's bound to happen. So I think the Celtics are

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Speaker 1: going to be feeling pretty good about themselves. I think

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Speaker 1: they've figured out that Miami's zone defense quite a bit,

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Speaker 1: and they you know, look, they know the seasons on

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Speaker 1: the line of course. Tonight, like it was in Game five,

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Speaker 1: and they came out with a very very strong second half,

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Speaker 1: very convincing performance. I think they're gonna do it again tonight.

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Speaker 1: So give me the Celtics. I think we go on

1202
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Speaker 1: to seven, baby.

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Speaker 2: Oh, all right, seven baby. I'll be watching Bam tonight

1204
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 2: because he said that last loss was on him and

1205
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: Taysol played them, but obviously he was injured as well.

1206
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: Let's see what type of performance we get from him

1207
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Speaker 2: and how much of an impact he has early on.

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Speaker 2: Here will be my prediction for tonight's game. Whatever team

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00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 2: gets up by twelve, thirteen, fourteen points, that type of

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00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 2: double digit lead early in the game, that team's gonna lose.

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Speaker 5: So wherever he.

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Speaker 2: Gets the early lead in this one will ultimately lose

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00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 2: this game. That'll be my weird prediction. For Game six.

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Speaker 2: But let's hear from you guys in the comments. Let's

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Speaker 2: like winning game six to eight? Do we get a

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Speaker 2: Game seven? Or is it gonna be Lakers? He and

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Speaker 2: are we going to be previewing that series early next week?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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