WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Have They Done Enough?

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<v Speaker 1>M. The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Blowing out of

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield's flooding down the sideline. He is Hanging with

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<v Speaker 1>the Boys, presented by Windstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo yo yo, Welcome to the s WBC Mortgage Bedroom,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome back to another episode of Hanging with the

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<v Speaker 1>Boys in different locations. How you do? Hey man? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>What got Hey man? What's the old guy that used

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<v Speaker 1>to come on? And he's had he's much a shadow

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<v Speaker 1>of It's an old and white m used to have

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<v Speaker 1>a shadow. He's like and he used to have all

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<v Speaker 1>these The next episode, Hey, hey, shadow, that was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Oh my god, like a guy? Wow yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know what you think of him? So you say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, go ahead off. Okay, you guys are looking good.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse got his Hot Boys hat on, Nate's got his uh,

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<v Speaker 1>his jersey's actually a whole uniform on? What what uniform is?

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<v Speaker 1>That game? That was a younger slim nad that's super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's something that y'all don't know about yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know you were. I didn't know you were

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<v Speaker 1>hot boys, Jesse. Yeah, they say hot boys, not just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on the field. It's a mentality. They're doing

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<v Speaker 1>good things in the community right now, So I can

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<v Speaker 1>wrap it to the hot boys. They keep doing that community.

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<v Speaker 1>See that Pro Bowl when it used to be real

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl, y'all see that? Yeah, okay, nice. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to take a tool one of these shows, Nate

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<v Speaker 1>will take a tool around your house and see all

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<v Speaker 1>your not no, you won't not no, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want picture. No. I was just bow just having a

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<v Speaker 1>little fun. You can stop with that shot. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love you, but not that much. Yeah, oh man, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. It's been it's been a week since we talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is becoming the new normal. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody you know, I've talked to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different people through webexes and things like that, UM conference calls,

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<v Speaker 1>and it feels like everybody's kind of starting to settle

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<v Speaker 1>in is this is kind of the new normal. So Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>are you are you getting adjusted to to this being

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<v Speaker 1>the new normal? For it? Sounds like what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the next several weeks. Well, Shannon, I'm glad you

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<v Speaker 1>act said because and I'm quite sure with all you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we do my Sunday school classes by by via this

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<v Speaker 1>way we do my church like we don't our Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>school classes basically like this what we're doing here, But

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<v Speaker 1>my church, we just we all tune inside pastor and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I have a few friends that when they want

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap at me, you know, I know about face

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<v Speaker 1>facetiming now and so, which I don't mind doing. But

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<v Speaker 1>all know me, I'm a personal guy. When y'all text

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot of times, you know, I'll go one

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<v Speaker 1>text and then I'm calling. I like to I like

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<v Speaker 1>to feel like I'm touching the person, you know. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll adapt to whatever way. Man. Because the stories we

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<v Speaker 1>had before we got on this deal with certain family

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<v Speaker 1>members and stuff like this, Man, I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>my part even more now to make sure that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else has a chance to survive. Yeah, Kurt, what have

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<v Speaker 1>I know You've been really busy with the book, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've gotten to breathe much the

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<v Speaker 1>last week or so, But are you are you settling

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<v Speaker 1>into this kind of being the new you know, every

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<v Speaker 1>day for you. Yeah, it's it's kind of we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking a little bit earlier Matt and I about how

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend was, and there ain't much difference now between

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend and the and the work week. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of all running together. But yeah, I we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting used to it. We're you know, trying to trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get out, trying to stay or you know, walks

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that, trying to stay active in the

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<v Speaker 1>house a little bit and get some fresh air. But

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say we're totally adjusted. I'd love to be

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<v Speaker 1>back seeing you guys in person, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. We'll make the best of it. Yeah, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're probably still sore from doing all your

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<v Speaker 1>push ups, But what do you h are you doing

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<v Speaker 1>these days to to I guess kind of stay in

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<v Speaker 1>shape or are you able to get any workouts in?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you able to get outside? And are you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of settling into this be the new norm. I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate every bit of it. Um one. I hate here.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I really hate it. I hate being told

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<v Speaker 1>what to do, like you gotta stay in the household,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta do. I ain't being told what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to go and and and and when I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to come and go as I please. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've been able to you know, hit workouts in and

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, relaxing, uh, just chill. But this, this,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't me like I'm I'm I'm a busy good

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm always on wing, whether it's with you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>or at the school or speaking engagement or training guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always on the go, always moving. So for me

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of be sitting uh, you know, isolated and

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<v Speaker 1>and and to me, this this is we I have

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<v Speaker 1>to adapt to it. I have to accept it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll shore man, I'll be so glad when this thing

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<v Speaker 1>is over with. You don't have to like it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do it, but you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy doing it. I don't. I don't. I don't shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to uh wing stop. They were they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to deliver us wings this morning and we were going

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<v Speaker 1>to eat them over. We had some logistical issues. You

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<v Speaker 1>can all blame it on me, um, but we were

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<v Speaker 1>we were not able to get the wings delivered this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully we figure something out next week. They are

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<v Speaker 1>still the sponsor of our show. We still love them

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<v Speaker 1>very much, and we will at some point have wings

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<v Speaker 1>together remotely. They told us they told me about you

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago, and he'll over promise and hundred

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<v Speaker 1>delivered every time. I'll tell you, guys, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what you asked. You asked any of those other shows

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<v Speaker 1>how much free swag they get, And I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 1>we get ten times more than any of those other shows.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's true. I do fall short sometimes, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not from lack of effort. It's it's usually things outside

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<v Speaker 1>of my control. Like but all those other shows one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent work for the cowboys, so they can probably

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<v Speaker 1>walk down and get a lot of the swag themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>We are kind of a mixed bad group right here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all we're all over the place. We all have

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<v Speaker 1>a common interest in the common employment for the cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not all one hundred percent employed by the

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<v Speaker 1>cowboy like those other shows. No, all right, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into a little bit of football, and I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure by the last segment we will this thing

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<v Speaker 1>will fall completely off the rails like it usually does,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll try to hold it on the rails for

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<v Speaker 1>the first couple of seconds. You never said, you're all

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great. Yeah, I'm doing great, man. I'm living

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<v Speaker 1>sure new place, getting I'm getting settled into your No,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been telling everybody like, hey, if we can, if

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<v Speaker 1>we can make it through this the first time living

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<v Speaker 1>with each other and being around each other twenty four seven,

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't leave, You can't get mad and go

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<v Speaker 1>go down to the bar and have a drink. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you get mad, you go to the fridge and you

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<v Speaker 1>get a beer and you sit on the couch next

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<v Speaker 1>to the person you're bad, So like you can't get away.

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<v Speaker 1>So we can get through this, like we we can

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<v Speaker 1>get through anything. But now it's been good. We it

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<v Speaker 1>actually came in a great time, you know, with us

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<v Speaker 1>moving able to unpack boxes and um kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>the apartment in order, and then it gives us time

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<v Speaker 1>to go get outside and take walks and do things

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<v Speaker 1>that we probably normally wouldn't do. And really just honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we've we've been together over a year, but

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<v Speaker 1>just honestly getting to getting to know each other and

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<v Speaker 1>spend time together, and it's it's it's been, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that it's happening. I'm like Jesse, I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>on the go, Like I cannot stand to sit at

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<v Speaker 1>the house. But I've found other things to keep me

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<v Speaker 1>occupied that I normally wouldn't do, you know, like just

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<v Speaker 1>doing different things that I would normally i'd be playing

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<v Speaker 1>video games. I've been trying to take the time that

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<v Speaker 1>I have instead of doing it on something and wasting

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<v Speaker 1>like on a video game or something like that, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find something constructive and creative to do. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly, I am busier with work now than I

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<v Speaker 1>have been since a season ended. So I've been on

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<v Speaker 1>conference calls and video calls like non stop with the bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's got different initiatives going on around the company right now,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to figure out a different way to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>content to our fans and do some things that are

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<v Speaker 1>out of the box. So it's been it's been super busy,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's been good. It's been really good. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So now all the football. So this was a male

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<v Speaker 1>bad question that Kurt sent me. M Have the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>done enough in free agency? Are you know? They're still

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<v Speaker 1>concerns at cornerback, defensive line, safety, slot receiver. Are are

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<v Speaker 1>they set up to have a productive draft and just

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<v Speaker 1>go after I guess best available no matter what position?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys? Start with you, Jesse, because you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>talked very much and we're already ten minutes into the show,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're probably ready to roll or what do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Have they done enough in free agency? Um? No they haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing I want us to be cautious about,

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<v Speaker 1>like we always want to go after then we always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go you know after the the record out

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<v Speaker 1>of any that we know across the league, here's what

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<v Speaker 1>I will said. They've done. They set themselves up for

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<v Speaker 1>the draft not having to go in and be so

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. They didn't handicaps something going onto the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>In years past they had to go on and get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a certain guy. That guy wasn't there. Their

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<v Speaker 1>whole draft was busted. They've given theirself enough cushion to

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<v Speaker 1>go onto the draft and say, hey, if this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>there at seventeen, that that guy's there at seventeen, we

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<v Speaker 1>could take either or and be Okay, We're not pigeonholed

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<v Speaker 1>to go in there and getting one guy or one

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<v Speaker 1>specific position in this year's draft. But I still think

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<v Speaker 1>they could addressed some war areas in free agency. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe what these uncertain times that we're in

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<v Speaker 1>has hindered what they've been able to do because they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to do medicals, do interviews, just work

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<v Speaker 1>guys out this physically sit in front of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to him and see what he's about. They

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<v Speaker 1>made some questionable signing this offseason, but they could have

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<v Speaker 1>done a little bit more. They were kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>landing the weeds. But they set the ups up so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can go into the drive and doesn't they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to be pigeonholed of getting one specific position.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that not only an unknown with this virus,

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<v Speaker 1>but an unknown with the coaching staff. They may have

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<v Speaker 1>worked together all during the offseason, you know, taping games, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>doing uh little setups for games as though they were

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<v Speaker 1>still active coaching. But until we know who they are,

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<v Speaker 1>until they know who they are with the players that

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<v Speaker 1>they've gotten in this limited market, I'm just gonna kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hold be neutral right here. I'm not gonna ride

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<v Speaker 1>the fence because I think we should have been set

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<v Speaker 1>up better coming out of last year than we are now.

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<v Speaker 1>We let a lot of guys get free over the

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<v Speaker 1>last few years who we should have been talking to

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to keep in the house, but we didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So right about now, I'm just gonna wait and see

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<v Speaker 1>how this new coaches staff I'm talking about this defensive

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<v Speaker 1>coaches staff are owned with the special team coaches staff.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to just see how they put things together,

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<v Speaker 1>because brothers, y'all know, we just piecemeal right now, That's

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<v Speaker 1>all it is. We went out and got Poled, we

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<v Speaker 1>went out and got McCoy. We signed to some dbs,

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<v Speaker 1>but the dbs are more special team guys than actual

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<v Speaker 1>cover guys. So I'm in the middle right now. Kurt, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that. I mean, it depends on how you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it. And really their free agency is signing

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<v Speaker 1>their own guys. I mean, they spent big money on Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at last year with DeMarcus, with Zeke. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's their focus. You know, they haven't signed that I

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<v Speaker 1>can remember. They haven't signed a big free agent deal

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<v Speaker 1>since Brandon Carr and that was what six seven years

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<v Speaker 1>ago something like that, So it's just not their bill. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not their priority anymore. They want to sign the

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<v Speaker 1>big car directs to their own people, and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's working out. I mean, you're glad you got Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Zeke long term, you hope works out. Same

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<v Speaker 1>with the Mario. I mean, there's question marks with all

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<v Speaker 1>of them, but I don't know if we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see a big name come in here anymore. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of signing guys for depth, kind of filling in

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<v Speaker 1>holes and with you know, one year deals with like

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<v Speaker 1>McCoy or I mean, polding some of these guys. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it the right way to go. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that they are set up at least

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<v Speaker 1>where they can draft the best player available in that

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<v Speaker 1>first round and overall that can they make a big

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<v Speaker 1>difference change the whole scene in one draft. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they can, but that's kind of the round

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<v Speaker 1>that been going. The thing is, y'all men, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with it, but it points his way. Everybody has identity,

0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying that Cowboys have a lockdown identity,

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<v Speaker 1>but we know from the last five years all about

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<v Speaker 1>our offense. It's all about our offense, and they're still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to glue together the defense they're gonna try it from.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're gonna they're gonna have a high bred three

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<v Speaker 1>four or four three defense with a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>nickel packages in most of the time. But until we

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<v Speaker 1>get some solid pieces on defense that you can count

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<v Speaker 1>on besides d Law, you know, this is how it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look. This is how it's gonna look. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we went through it last hit the year before, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been it's been about like our winning and losing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been every other every other year of success or

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<v Speaker 1>none success. So as you go out and would you

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<v Speaker 1>spend big money on a you know, clown ear or

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<v Speaker 1>Tremaine Johnson or no, no, no, I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>this method can't work because Kansas City does this with

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<v Speaker 1>their defense. Uh, the Ravens up until they drafted that

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback that they have, they basically did that with their offense.

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<v Speaker 1>So teams have specific identities and what they believe in

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<v Speaker 1>and where they spend their money. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that's wrong, But when do we get successful at that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jesse, I mean, how do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because I know you you you a big

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<v Speaker 1>power offensive guy. Yeah you say five years, I go

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years. I mean even back when you were playing,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing was always about offense. You know you you that, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't hear you, Jesse, So no, I was saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this thing has always been about offense for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, that all the big names and the big

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<v Speaker 1>money has always been spent on offense. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>you see a guy like Zeke gets signed, and you

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<v Speaker 1>see a guy like uh um Amori gets signed, those things,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, are are are basically what they who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They they've they've always been one that's going to sign

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the big names from their teams. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to they want to have the jersey sales, they

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<v Speaker 1>want to have uh to be able to play on

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<v Speaker 1>a big time Sunday and Monday night football games, you

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<v Speaker 1>need the names to go and do those type of things.

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<v Speaker 1>But defensively, the thing what this team is is I

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<v Speaker 1>just truly believe the way that the NFL is going

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<v Speaker 1>the whole having these you know Ravens or eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>bear defenses, those things are long gone. It's all about now,

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<v Speaker 1>how you can go and get thirty thirty five plus

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<v Speaker 1>points a game. Please don't argue me with that. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to score thirty plus points a game. I've

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<v Speaker 1>argued with the guy right that for a year about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that came to be true. We're not gonna argue

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<v Speaker 1>about you gotta score thirty plus points a game to

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<v Speaker 1>be a contender in this league. Um, you just need you.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what you need for your defense. You need your defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you always kind of go back to this

0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of like Kansas City. Um, I just need you

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<v Speaker 1>to be good enough to get a stop or two

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<v Speaker 1>when necessary. I don't I don't need world beaters. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't need the eighty five Bears. I just

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<v Speaker 1>need you to go out there and get when when

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<v Speaker 1>it's when it's you know, thirty five thirty, I need

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<v Speaker 1>you to get a stop. It's in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>we're up thirty five thirty. Here's why I need you

0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to get a stop. I don't need you to hold

0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.720
<v Speaker 1>a team to fourteen points anymore because we can only

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<v Speaker 1>score seventeen. No, we're gonna score thirty plus points a game.

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<v Speaker 1>I just need you in those critical moments before the half,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of ball games, when I need you

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<v Speaker 1>to make a play defense. That's when I need a

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<v Speaker 1>sack or pass breakup or something that happened or turnover.

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<v Speaker 1>I need something to happen for the defense I don't need.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need the eighty five Bears. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousand Ravens. I just need a defense good

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<v Speaker 1>enough that when we're getting those crucial moments that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna give up the third down on thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not gonna let the ball get behind you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get behind your head on third and long.

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<v Speaker 1>I need you when when we're when we're putting that

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on to get home, get the sack, don't miss

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<v Speaker 1>the sack. Or when that intercept it hits your hands,

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<v Speaker 1>catch it, don't drop it, turn your head, deflect it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I need because I have an offense that's

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<v Speaker 1>built to score thirty plus points a game. And if

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<v Speaker 1>they can do that and you can just get us

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<v Speaker 1>be our biggest problem. We just couldn't get. Stop's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>stop from needed. And it's been that way for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years. Now. Have they done enough in this

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<v Speaker 1>free agency to be able to take the U the

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<v Speaker 1>best available player in the draft or is or is

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<v Speaker 1>that or do they still need to go defense. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they're gonna say I have to go defense

0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.920
<v Speaker 1>because that theory that Jared's Jess talking about, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I've been preaching. But right before the half, can you

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<v Speaker 1>get a play right right at the end of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>can you make a play? Uh, we don't have that playmaker.

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<v Speaker 1>We beside the Marcus Lawrence, we don't have that guy

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<v Speaker 1>that we know that can possibly make that play. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, I've been seeing where they they've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this kid. I'm in Oklahoma, a lot a

0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of guys saying he gonna fall to us if

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<v Speaker 1>they get the guy. I'm not gonna be mad, but

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<v Speaker 1>that puts even more pressure on our defense. I think

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<v Speaker 1>to um to make them plays, it's gonna come. What

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<v Speaker 1>what you think, Jesse about three or four plays a

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<v Speaker 1>half that you can count on for your defense. Oh boy,

0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that's a nice play. It's just possible game changing. So

0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you still have to get somebody to cover somebody. I

0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:22.200
<v Speaker 1>don't care what you do, you're gonna have to steal

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<v Speaker 1>cover somebody. In cornerbacks at a premium, Uh not so much.

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Safeties of high bred linebackers and safeties. I had, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a premium in this draft. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can get one, you you're going in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be interesting to see if they I think

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<v Speaker 1>that they can do best available on defense. I mean

0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:49.680
<v Speaker 1>they're set up for that because they got so many

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.960
<v Speaker 1>holes they need to feel. But I think you're were

0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.399
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the wide receiver in Oklahoma, Lamb. I

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<v Speaker 1>think was that who you were talking about? They just

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<v Speaker 1>surely you surely they wouldn't go for a receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>the first round, would they? And now I'm just saying

0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:11.200
<v Speaker 1>those the national guys talking about food ass. But you know,

0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.320
<v Speaker 1>if they come up with an offensive guy, I mean,

0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:21.679
<v Speaker 1>would you be totally shocked? You know? So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let me don't ask you this, Nate. If you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can score thirty five thirty thirty five points

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<v Speaker 1>a game, is that okay? If that's how you're you're building,

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.640
<v Speaker 1>if that's how you're gonna if that's how you're gonna win.

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<v Speaker 1>See one thing you gotta like about when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Kansas City as much as they throw the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as we talk about my homes every week,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all heard me say Did you see how many yards

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 1>this quarterback ran far? Did you see how they closed

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<v Speaker 1>the game out with that running back? Running Backs are closers.

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<v Speaker 1>Quarterbacks are everything A plus a closer. He like you

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<v Speaker 1>tell Cy Young Award winner, they can do it all.

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<v Speaker 1>They can pitch six seven, shoutout in it, or they

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<v Speaker 1>can go to distance, go nine and close it out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Mahomes is. He can run the ball. He

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<v Speaker 1>ran the ball on the average and maybe fifty fifty

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<v Speaker 1>yards a game. Just stay enough to keep everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>their past lanes in them. Dak and then Dak is

0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>not this kid, but Dak has some of those traits.

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<v Speaker 1>Dak used to be a closer. Last year things went

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<v Speaker 1>a little haywire, and he wants that consistent closer that

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<v Speaker 1>we look for. But if Dad can get back to

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<v Speaker 1>his old winning ways or being calful with the ball

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<v Speaker 1>as well as getting it down feel like he did

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<v Speaker 1>this year, and just running a little more when allowed,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll have to do it thirty five points a game.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no problem with that. All I want is wins.

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<v Speaker 1>But your defense do have to play a part, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to our first break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>So many things to talk about Aldan Smith, Rex Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Amari Cooper. I'm really interested to get Jesse stops.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I know what direction he's gonna go with this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm so so glad that I don't have access

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<v Speaker 1>to the locker room after we had that conversation, because

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling I would feel really uncomfortable in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of Kurt, you've been working on You've been

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<v Speaker 1>working on a couple of things. You've been working on

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<v Speaker 1>this the sixtieth anniversary book which everybody will get to

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<v Speaker 1>see that before too terribly much longer, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>put to bed recently and also yeah yet again, draft guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell everybody just what you just got a draft guard done.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you can see that it might

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<v Speaker 1>be reversed in Yeah, they're get you ready for the draft. Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>com slash star right now. Our digital copies are available.

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<v Speaker 1>We should have some print ones out there soon Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys dot com slash star to get our official Dallas

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys draft guys. Who all? Who all contributes to that?

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Who all? Pretty much all of our writers? Nick David

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Hellman's kind of the lead guy draftwise, Um, Rob Phillips,

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Mickey was involved. It's it's a team effort. Michael Villereal

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 1>a graphics guy. We really did some different things with

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<v Speaker 1>the graphics this year, and he played a big role

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<v Speaker 1>in that. So it's it takes a lot to put

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<v Speaker 1>it all together. They did a great work. Awesome, awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm just gonna jump right in this. I

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 1>was gonna I was gonna get to it later, but

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I will. I cannot wait to hear what Jesse has

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>to say about this? Uh, Rex Ryan on what show

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>was he on? Kurt? I was one of the ESPN shows.

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure which which one thing's gonna get up. Um.

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I had some things to say about Amari Cooper and basically, Jesse,

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what, you know what he said, Tell everybody

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 1>what he said, tell us your thoughts on it. I

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>can't wait. Well, like anything, the Cowboys are always on

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the A block of everyone's programming. And so they were

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:15.719
<v Speaker 1>talking about the Mary Cooper signing he had just you know,

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, recently signed for one hundred million dollars. And

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 1>the question that was passed around the table was was

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:23.640
<v Speaker 1>he worth it? You know, was signing a Mary Coop

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>worth it? You know you haven't got Dak signed. Was

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the signing worth it? And they went around and they

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>finally got to old Rex Ryan. Now Here's where what

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem with. Just like us, they

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:40.239
<v Speaker 1>pay these people to get on TV to analyze and

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>at times be critical of someone's game. And Rex Ryan

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>talked about how Maria Cooper disappeared in games, called him

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a disappearing act and uh, and some may believe that,

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>and you know, say that he had, you know, issues

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>with you know, cutting off routes, and had an issue

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>with him not being in the fourth quarter on that

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>fourth down play, with the game on the line of season,

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>on the line of him not being down and in

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the game on that fourth fourth downplay. I have no

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>problem with those things. Here's where I have a problem

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>with Rex Ryan. When you begin to call a man

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>out of his name, now, Rex Ryan, then we'll be

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>going to say that I wouldn't pay that turd a dime.

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Basically saying a cleaned up version is I wouldn't pay

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>that piece of bleep a dime. That's that's when you

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>lose me. When you come out another man and you

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>call him out of his name, That right there is

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>when you cross the line. There has to be a

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>level of respect that is given across the board. You

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>may not like me, you may not like my game,

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you may not like what I've done in the field,

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>But when you begin to say things personally, my mother

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't name me turd. Mary's mother didn't name him turd.

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>So you can have all the ill will feelings you

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>want about how his game is, or how he plays

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>his game, or what he'd done on the field. But

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>when you begin to call a man out of his name,

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>that's when you cross the line from me. That's when

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>it becomes way unprofessional. That's when it comes. As we

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>like to say, the young people like to say, that's

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>when you got to see these hands, because that's uncalled

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>for it. And I'm all, i'm I'm I don't like

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>people who don't put you know, one who don't put

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>their name on stuff. And then the second thing is,

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't like people. Rex would never say that to

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>a Maria Cooper's face. He can get on TV all

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>he want and try to talk all tough and brash

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff. But if a Maria

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>was standing six feet were practicing social distancing, if a

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Maria was standing six feet away from Rex Ryan, he

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>would have never called him a turd to his face.

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And I have a real big problem with that man.

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And then and then you come give, you know, a

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>half apology on TV. And ESPN is at fault for

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>this as well, because why make why make Rex Ryan

0:30:55.840 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>apologize when ESPN you're the one who cut the audience.

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.959
<v Speaker 1>Put it on, get up, put it on on social

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>media for all of us to view it so you

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>were you were playing an even bigger part than this.

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>As the company, you should have had more coouth and

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>had more uh respect for your brand. And for Marie

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Cooper to not even cut that up and to put

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it out on social media, I mean ESPN and Rex

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Ryan all across the board that they showed very little

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>respectful Marie. They showed very little couth, They showed very

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>little just everything. And to me that that's unacceptable. And

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>if I was a Mari what I'm not He's not me,

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not him. If I ever came across Rex Ryan,

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>he and I would have to have a real serious

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>conversation they was that surprising for you to hear from

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>a former coach to to to speak like that about

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>about a player? Or is that you know? I heard

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>when I compadres when guys, uh that works, and I

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>feel said sound like he was very unprepared and he

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>ran out of words and so we got to see

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the real Rex Ryan. So like, uh so we got

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to see the real Rex. So now that's what you feel,

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm with you just a hundred percent. And that's

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>all I have to say on that, because that's one

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of the things I think Brad sham for because I

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>used to be out there kind of talking ill of players,

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of calling him out of the names and stuff

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>like that, and and Brad looked at me like, what

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? You know, it's hard to tell to

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>show us what is wrong, and it's on film through

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>expression of your your vocabulary. But to just call a

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>man out of his name. You don't know this man personally,

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so you know, keep it professional. Tell us

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>what he what's you know? Yeah, he breaks off his routes.

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he disappeared in a few games. Yeah he was

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>not and there in the fourth quarter. We know that.

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Tell us why this happened, give us a little more insight.

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>But to just call all the amount of his name,

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially if this man was to confront you

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>about it, knee, you got no apologize. Now you got

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to buy down with your tail between your legs. And

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be put in that position as

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>a man, you know, forcing another man to come to

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you in that in that in that way. So I

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>agree with you, Jess. Yeah, and Jesse, you and you

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and Nate both know this. Players, players, I mean, this

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>is their job and it's just like anybody else in

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>their job. When you know, sometimes your boss, which is

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>your coach or your position coach, sometimes they have to

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>they have to call you out a little bit, or

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>they have to push you, or they have to, you know,

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>it's their job coming after a game and point out where,

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, where you didn't perform well, right, So they're

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>used to that and they'll sit down. And I've seen

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>this happen on the team plane flying back from games

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>where somebody, you know, whether it's a Nick Eatman or

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, Rob Phillips or someone, they'll stop a player

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>as they're walking back to the player's section and they'll say, hey,

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>what happened on this play? And the players know, and

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>they're forthcoming and honest, and they'll say, I missed my

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>assignment or I did this, or this is what I

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>thought was happening, and this is why that happened. So

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>they're used to being criticized, they're used to being called out.

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>They're used to and they'll and they'll, you know, they

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>appreciate the honesty because they know the media has a

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>job to do. But I think you guys are right

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:29.240
<v Speaker 1>when it's you know, when you start attacking someone's character,

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>or you start attacking you know, someone's name or something

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>like that. Talk about the football stuff all you want,

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>but once it crosses that line to where you're you know,

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you're you're calling out names, I think that's probably where

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 1>the issue is with this thing, because you can have

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the opinion of him not being worth the money, but

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>once you start going down that other route, that's that's

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>when it kind of loses me as well. So that's

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing. Man, it's it's it's respect. It's it's

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>having respect and as a man, as a man, that

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>should always be li number one when dealing with another man,

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 1>like there has to be a level of respect that

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 1>is there. And when that respect line is broken, then

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>then you no longer see me as a man. You

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>see me less than that. And if you see me

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 1>less than that, then I have to I have to

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>address and I have to handle you differently. But there

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>should always be a level of respect, expectingly when you're

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about being on national TV. If if you can't

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 1>handle yourself in a respectful, appropriate manner, then they need

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to find someone else to do that job. This isn't

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>This isn't This isn't where you can just go and

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>just say this stuff willy nilly, because there are consequences

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>for that. There are other people on the other end

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.439
<v Speaker 1>of your comments that have to receive that, and how

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>they receive that can can ultimately be not in the

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>best interest or best favor for you. That's all the

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>things most players, and as a as a former player,

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I had no problem with anyone criticizing my game, criticizing

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>my talent. I had no problem with that. That's what

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>they that's what they pay you to do. They pay

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you to analyze and to criticize. I have no problem

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:08.799
<v Speaker 1>with that. The only problem I will ever have with anyone, anyone,

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>is when you don't treat me with the respect that

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I deserve as a man. And my mother didn't name

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>me anything other than Jesse Holly, So when you begin

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>to call me other things than that, that's when you

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>and I have a problem. I can't call it Jess,

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't call you mister fourth and long in the

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>mong you only you, though, only you, only you, only

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you by would change that Twitter handle. Then, Jesse, how

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>do you think Amara is going to handle this? As

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>far as you know, with new contracts, with big contracts

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 1>come big expectations. He's gonna get criticized more. Do you

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna handle it all right? Do you think

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna step up? Are we gonna see more from

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>his game? Remember Mari, when he came over from Oakland,

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 1>he was criticized. They said they didn't love football. They said,

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>they said the same thing that we're here now. I

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't love football. They said that. You know, he was

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>someone who didn't always show up all the time. When

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>you're a player like Amari Cooper, when you go to

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you know you're the top players in the country, and

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.919
<v Speaker 1>you go to the Alabamas, you're so used to being criticized.

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>You this is This isn't the first time a Mari

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>has heard criticism. This isn't the first time a Mari

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>has been negati things have been said about him. I mean,

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 1>go back to high school. I'm pretty sure, Kurt. If

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you dug up some high school articles, you can find something.

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>If you dug up some college articles, you can find something.

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see. What is uh if you

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>look at his um You know, Kurt, you're doing the

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>draft stuff now. They always have these draft boards and

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody has the pros and cons of what this player is,

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>what he'll be at the next level. I'm pretty sure

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of criticism in there. So for a Mari,

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>this isn't the first time he's heard criticism. It won't

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>be the last time he's heard criticism, and he'll take

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.319
<v Speaker 1>it like he's always done, with grace, with class. He's

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>not a guy who's gonna come back and be vocal

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and be loquacious and what is the thing that he

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>says and be you know, shot shooting shots back at Rex.

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Ryan mar is gonna say, hey, man, it is what

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>it is. They call me mister Cooper. When I go

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 1>into the bank, they called me mister They call me

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 1>mister Cooper when I go into Wolfs Fargo, b of

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>A or Chase or whatever. Those hundred million dollars that

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.280
<v Speaker 1>he'll put in the bank wherever they go. I promise

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you they don't call him a turn in there. I

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.399
<v Speaker 1>promise you. They call him mister Cooper and he gets

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.240
<v Speaker 1>first class service when he goes into the bank. So, dude,

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>as players, you don't have to name names whatever, but

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>as players, did you have teammates that you saw criticism

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>get to him or anything, or do most guys able

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to shake that over. Oh yeah, let me say this, Curt,

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:47.800
<v Speaker 1>let me say this right here. Only the elite get criticized.

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Everybody else has just lumped together. I'm I'm being honest.

0:38:55.440 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, mar has been elite on every level he's played. Now,

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 1>whether he's been consistent with that elite list that, you

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>may can criticize that, but elite, route runner, elite, speed,

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>elite coming out of breaks, elite knowing his plays and

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>knowing where to go. Now you may have questioned some

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of those desires that time, some of that will that time,

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>but he's elite. Believe that he is elite. That's why

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>he's being criticized. And he he's a different cat too, man.

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>He's he's especially at the and you know this first hand,

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Jesse at the wide receiver position. That's a lot of

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are you know me me me,

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and really flamboyant and really out there. And he's you know,

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:51.399
<v Speaker 1>he's a very thoughtful guy. And he doesn't talk a lot,

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 1>but when he talks, it's very calculated and it's very

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's very thought out, and he thinks about

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.320
<v Speaker 1>everything and he'll you know, he stops and he pauses

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and he thinks. So if he puts something out there

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's you know, you know he he did he

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>disappear in a few games this year. Yeah, he was

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>taken out of a few games. But I would and

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this off the top of my head,

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>but Kurt Ben, this is something you have come across.

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>But I'd like to see you're DeAndre Hopkins, You're Julio Jones.

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Are they taken out of a two or three games,

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>a couple of games, one or two games a year

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>where they only have one catch or two catches? And

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>is it maybe just emphasize more because he's on the

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys and he is so quiet and he's not outspoken

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't let things bother him. If it's made

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:44.720
<v Speaker 1>more of a bigger deal, or if if that's really

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of an issue with him as he's able to

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>be taken out of games, I don't I don't know

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>the answer to that. I think stats. I think with

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>those other guys, if you play this position, if you

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>play any position, running back, quarterback, whatever it is, if

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 1>you're if you're you think deons centers, never anyone, no

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>one that ever had a hundred yard receiving game on him.

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.919
<v Speaker 1>Yes they have. Do you think you know you think

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Michael Irvin. Do you think Julio Jones has never had

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a game where they didn't have over fifty yards? Yes?

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>They have. You ever think Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>had never had games where they just had flat out

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 1>bad games, multiple interceptions. Yes, they have running backs being

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Walter Payton, Ima Smith, Zeke Elliott have bad Yes, everyone

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>everyone has them. The biggest thing this is just to

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 1>me that sticks out with a Maori and his criticism

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 1>is his history of him quote unquote, I don't believe

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:41.919
<v Speaker 1>this quote unquote not loving football and disappearing and not

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>having a love for the game. And you see him

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>not come back in on fourth down. That's the one

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 1>part because every other receiver you name it, Nate, you

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>think Michael Irvin is not going to be on the

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 1>on the biggest game of the season, in the fourth

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 1>quarter game on the line and it's fourth down and

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 1>they're doing a passing play. You think Michael Ivan would

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>allowed anyone to keep him on the sideline if he

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't hurt. No, And that goes and that goes across

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the board. You could Michael Irvin or Dell Beckham, Julio Jones,

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Denandre Hopkins. It's those little plays that happened throughout the

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:23.720
<v Speaker 1>course of his season or his career. And you couple

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that with people saying that he doesn't love football, and

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you can start piecing things together that makes it look like,

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe this dude really doesn't love football

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>because he let someone keep him on the sideline in

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter on fourth down on a pass the

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.399
<v Speaker 1>situation in the biggest game of the season. Most guys

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and then and then didn't fuss about it. It's one

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>thing if he was saying, like, man, you see him

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines, hooting and hollering and yelling, and you're saying, okay,

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>he cared. But when he's when you see him on

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the sideline just standing there like with the with the

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>with the with the with the puppy dog phase, you're

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, he don't. He don't really care because

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>he's just standing on the sideline like it's okay, right.

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>But that was I guess that was my point is

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>he's he's a different cat, and he he doesn't seem

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>confrontational and he doesn't seem like it's kind of like

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>it almost seems like, hey, that's what they told me

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to do, so that's what I did. It's not that

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.439
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't care, he's just not the kind of guy.

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that makes a three a lot of things right,

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's not gonna go get in somebody's face and

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:21.720
<v Speaker 1>be like I need to be in there, Like maybe

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 1>he's that guy that's like, that's the coach, that's what

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:26.439
<v Speaker 1>they told me to do. That's what I did, So

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't. Let's just let's just see what this year brain.

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.919
<v Speaker 1>Let's see what a new coaching style, a new way

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of doing things, Let's see what that brings. Uh, maybe

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.439
<v Speaker 1>these guys can we try to bring something different out

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>of Mary He's seen he signed a team friendly deal.

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 1>The cat said he wanted to be here. The Cowboys

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>felt that they need to be here. And one thing

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 1>we can say whatever we want and Jesse yours test

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it is whenever he lines up on the field, he

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>makes everybody else job a little bit easy. Hey man,

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>every everything we've said, good or not good, when he

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>lines up, he dictate coverage. Yeah, when you got a

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 1>guy to dictate coverage, that mean he's a number one wrong, right,

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 1>jess Amen amen, and you see what happens when he's

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.399
<v Speaker 1>not on the field the Jets. What happened in that game.

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think he's a game changer. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the who's the astronaut behind you? Who's the last

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<v Speaker 1>the astronaut behind you. What's the story there? You know, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in this bedroom and we haven't decorated yet because

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<v Speaker 1>we're in this new apartment. So every day that we're

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, I'm just going to bring in a

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<v Speaker 1>random piece of something around the apartment to put in

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<v Speaker 1>here that Actually I was um out one night having

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't really fit anywhere, so it's probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>everything you own winding up in the closet. Shann All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk some Alan Smith. What uh Kurt? Start with you?

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<v Speaker 1>What what do you think when you heard the signing?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, hasn't been in the league in a while,

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<v Speaker 1>He's had some some issues in the past, was a

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>beast whenever you know he was at the top of

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>his game. Um, you think it's good. It's it's obviously

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a project or an experience to what a one deal.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on it? Well, it's it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a risk a little bit. Um. I guess they

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 1>got nothing to lose with him and not paying him

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot if he does make it, if he

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>can somehow return to his old form and be a

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<v Speaker 1>huge bonus. But you know he's gonna be thirty years

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 1>old at and played since twenty fifteen, it seems like

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 1>a long shot. Yeah, it's kind of a It kind

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:29.360
<v Speaker 1>of brings back memories of a Rolando McLean. If you

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 1>can get him in here for a year and you know,

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.959
<v Speaker 1>get that type of play out of him, I guess

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:38.239
<v Speaker 1>is it worth it? Jesse? Would you think whatever you

0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you heard about it? I guess the voice of reason

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and the hater of the show. I hated it. I

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 1>hated it. I hated everything about it. And well, I

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:50.359
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people are saying the money part,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well they got him for cheap. Oh well, they

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:55.799
<v Speaker 1>got them for cheap. And my hate has nothing to

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:58.320
<v Speaker 1>do with the money. I don't care what they paid them.

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:02.280
<v Speaker 1>My thing is is that you trust. You can't trust

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 1>this guy. This isn't a guy that you can trust.

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 1>His whole adult life. He's had issues with the law

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:13.720
<v Speaker 1>his entire adult life. He's had issues with the law,

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 1>and now right even just this last summer. And I

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 1>know people are saying, oh, well, Jesse, you know he

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, as the Christian man, you should be able

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>to forgive. I have no problem with forgiving. I just

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want him on my team because you haven't played

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>football in over four years. And four years and just

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>eight months ago you decide to go get help. And

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:39.879
<v Speaker 1>now I'm supposed to believe, after having a history, a

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>lifelong history of having trouble with the authorities, that in

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 1>eight months you have been fixed. And I know what

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 1>it is to be a Dallas cowboy. Nate knows what

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>it is to be a Dallas cowboy. Kurt Shannon, you

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:55.720
<v Speaker 1>guys know what it is to be a Dallas cowboy.

0:50:56.160 --> 0:51:00.359
<v Speaker 1>When you are in this city, on this team, you

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:06.480
<v Speaker 1>are treated like a god. You are held well above report.

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean you, you are up here. And so now, okay,

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.720
<v Speaker 1>we got lean, we got lean it rules now on marijuana.

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:16.960
<v Speaker 1>So I just look at this thing. Is you signed

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:21.239
<v Speaker 1>a guy who, if we're being honest right now, he's

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 1>probably your day one starter at right defensive end because

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.840
<v Speaker 1>we don't have another defensive end. You know, on Tyrone Crawford,

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:29.760
<v Speaker 1>there's an all the defensive end. You lost Robert Quentin'.

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna start at your right defensive end. So now

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you're putting a level of a premium level of importance

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 1>on a guy who you cannot trust. And so once

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:41.760
<v Speaker 1>he starts getting those reps and start getting those plays,

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and he may have some success. I hope he has

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:48.919
<v Speaker 1>some success. But what happens if he decides to go

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>on and get another du by because he doesn't know

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:54.919
<v Speaker 1>the rules of how Dallas works. He you know, we've

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 1>all been on that tollway after twelve o'clock, and I

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.319
<v Speaker 1>know the three limits at seventy five, but we all

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:06.280
<v Speaker 1>know we don't go seventy five and drinking and driving.

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Here's another d UI can get itself hurt, get other

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:12.280
<v Speaker 1>people hurt. I just don't like guys that I cannot

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 1>depend on. Football is a dependent sport. I need to

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:18.359
<v Speaker 1>know the guy to my left and to my right

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:20.760
<v Speaker 1>is going to be there when I need him most.

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>This is a guy that I just can't trust. I

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 1>don't want in the foxhole with me because his history

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:28.839
<v Speaker 1>says he's not gonna be there when I need him

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the most. Nate, Please, if it's a DIVISIVN in the

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 1>draft that falls us that can help us win games,

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>or do you think that can make an impact quickly

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>in our season and early in our season, draft that guy.

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Draft that guy. I believe in second chances, but he

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>should have he should have no impact or who we

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:03.239
<v Speaker 1>draft and when we draft him. And these guys that

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.400
<v Speaker 1>we bring in should have equal reps to what we

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 1>to Alton Smith and good bad indifference. This this should

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:16.680
<v Speaker 1>this should be totally a wild card. Something you got

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 1>behind your back. You know, if he give anything, he

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.080
<v Speaker 1>give it. If he don't give it, that's fine. He

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:27.400
<v Speaker 1>ain't affecting that because this team has enough wild cards

0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 1>as it is, and our whole defensive coaching staff as

0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>a wild card. Trying to put this team together with

0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 1>pol mccour all. This thing is a wild card. You

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>just added a bigger wild card. And Aldon Smith, if

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a dive is a man fall to us, please draft him.

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:48.680
<v Speaker 1>And Dallas is also a place where um to steal

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:54.240
<v Speaker 1>a phrase from from from Mike Fisher is fifty two brands.

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Everybody has a brand. If you're a cowboy, you got

0:53:56.960 --> 0:54:00.839
<v Speaker 1>a brand. You got a brand. And so when I'm

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 1>looking because championship teams, yes they have talented people, Yes

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:10.279
<v Speaker 1>they have talented coaches, but they look at every championship

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 1>team in any sport, I don't care what level it is,

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:16.720
<v Speaker 1>if they are a championship team, there is a level

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:22.359
<v Speaker 1>of of of of chemistry and camaraderie that is that

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 1>has had amongst the team. Not offense, defense, not linebackers,

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:31.799
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers. I'm talking about a sense of community in

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:34.239
<v Speaker 1>the team. And this is the one team when you

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 1>look at Dallas. Yes, there are clicks there, there are

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:41.480
<v Speaker 1>are are pieces that are together. I don't know if

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the chemistry is all the way there and then you

0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 1>drop this, you drop this piece right in the middle

0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 1>of it and sidebar. I keep saying this. Be nice

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to your coaches. There'll be the reason why you have

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 1>a job or not. John Jim tom Sula was the

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>head coach for the Niners when they had Alden Smith.

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I know that Mike McCarthy, they you know, had interest

0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:03.720
<v Speaker 1>in all the Smith. But it was Jim tom Sula

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 1>who was kind of saying, this guy can really go

0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 1>always be nice to your coaches. But you drop this

0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:10.359
<v Speaker 1>guy into the mix, and I don't know if this

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 1>team has a good enough chemistry, a solid enough chemistry

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to be able to take on all the different type

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:25.480
<v Speaker 1>of uncertain personalities. I just I just did not like

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:29.160
<v Speaker 1>this signing for for our team. It just it just

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 1>lends itself for chaos in November and December when we

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:35.279
<v Speaker 1>need it, when we need these players to be here

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the most. Are they setting themselves up for kind of

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a false sense of security because they've they've now had

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 1>signed three kind of known guys for that defensive line

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and in McCoy, Po and now Smith. But all of

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 1>them thirty years old, all of them are are come

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:55.839
<v Speaker 1>a question marks. You don't know if any of them

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean surely, like you said, Nate, they'll still go

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 1>after a defensive end if they have it. There Uh,

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:07.439
<v Speaker 1>two known quantities. Pole can still play, Jerald McCoy still

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:12.799
<v Speaker 1>got some meat on the bone. Kind of thirty years old.

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the thirty years old, but these guys

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:21.040
<v Speaker 1>come off injury. You have to this. They're using this

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:25.080
<v Speaker 1>free agency to fill in to stop gap a couple

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:29.720
<v Speaker 1>of these guys. Pole and McCoy is basically stop gap

0:56:29.760 --> 0:56:33.799
<v Speaker 1>guys because if they if you take away Pole and McCoy,

0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:38.480
<v Speaker 1>then your defense has to be totally independent on the

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 1>draft if you take away those shoe guys, and this

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 1>is no way in the world you can draft anything offensively.

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 1>It's no in the world. It shouldn't be anyway. I

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 1>think if they got seven picks, six something should be

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:55.279
<v Speaker 1>all defense, you know. And I know that's a little overboard,

0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 1>but you know it's extreme times called for extreme measures.

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Pole and McCoy. I understand those are normal commodities. They

0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:07.360
<v Speaker 1>would play well for you. They may not be outstanding.

0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:09.359
<v Speaker 1>They may have one or two games where they may

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:10.880
<v Speaker 1>not even show up, but they may have three or

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 1>four games where they're gonna show up and be consistent.

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:18.600
<v Speaker 1>But Aldon Smith, you know, that's unknown to me. That's

0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>why I say when when when they look at Devinsiven,

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:23.080
<v Speaker 1>they can't look over it and said, well we got

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Alton Smith. They got to say that we got drafted

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 1>this guy because he's the best survailable Jesse, how do

0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you feel about the defensive line right as it stands,

0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>right now before the draft are you Are you okay

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:39.160
<v Speaker 1>with it? Or you not okay with it? Or you

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. For the

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 1>fact of the matter is that they've addressed some issues

0:57:45.120 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 1>that we've had in the middle. I think the biggest

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:51.480
<v Speaker 1>thing for this defense is how do we get are

0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you are two year young stud linebackers back to playing

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl, top level football, and the biggest thing they

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:00.800
<v Speaker 1>had a problem with last year is getting off those

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 1>big men blocks. So if you put some meat eaters

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 1>in the inside, now they don't have to Now. Now

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 1>they're being more free flowing linebackers and you can use

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:12.960
<v Speaker 1>them and a much more productive pace and use them

0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 1>in different variations. So I'm okay with it. It's not

0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:23.360
<v Speaker 1>still still got tank. I'm worried about that because here,

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 1>here's the biggest thing. You're not You're not gonna play.

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:30.840
<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna play. Poe and McCoy at a lot

0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 1>of snaps together, they're they're almost staggering one another. They're

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be like, all right, we know that

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:40.960
<v Speaker 1>both of you are thirty plus, we know that both

0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of you have some years in the league that both

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you have some injury history. So we're not trying to

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>line you up and play both of you guys sixty

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:51.480
<v Speaker 1>five snaps a game. No, what we're trying to do

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:56.000
<v Speaker 1>is we're trying to find two inside guys that we

0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 1>can rely on through the course of the season, kind

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of almost stagger and them playing them maybe twenty five

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:04.240
<v Speaker 1>snaps a piece, so that at the end of the

0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:06.600
<v Speaker 1>game that they're fresh. They're not a lot of when

0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you're tearing their bodies. Maybe some packets where they may

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 1>come in and have a boat in there. But I

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:13.240
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're both gonna be playing at the same time.

0:59:13.440 --> 0:59:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna see a different You're gonna have

0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:19.160
<v Speaker 1>those guys more so staggered behind one another, giving each

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 1>other a rest kind of being able to have them

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 1>for the duration of the season, not necessarily having them

0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 1>on the every down basis where they're playing sixty snaps

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the game. They don't have anybody behind them. You know them,

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and you got an you gotta have Tristan Hill. You

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 1>got and Hill is a big question mark. But these

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:40.960
<v Speaker 1>are these are all the things that they're looking and

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, Kurt, these are all the things

0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that they're looking at, saying Okay, Tristan Hill, we need

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you to take the next step and bringing these veteran

0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:50.479
<v Speaker 1>guys in here, hopefully they're able to put their arms

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 1>around Tristan Hill and say, hey, young fella, here's how

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you become a professional. Here's how you go about your work.

0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:58.200
<v Speaker 1>So you got two guys in here who's been in

0:59:58.240 --> 0:59:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the league for a very long time and has played

0:59:59.800 --> 1:00:02.960
<v Speaker 1>at the high level four sometime in this league. Hopefully

1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that being around a guy like Tristan Hill will really

1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:08.360
<v Speaker 1>be able to set the tone for him and he

1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:11.600
<v Speaker 1>takes that next maturity step and that next professional step.

1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:13.840
<v Speaker 1>And now you've got some sort of a three four

1:00:13.880 --> 1:00:16.200
<v Speaker 1>man rotation. If they get a guy in the draft,

1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:18.320
<v Speaker 1>they you know, they pick another guy up, maybe Laton

1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:21.120
<v Speaker 1>free agency. Now you've got a three four man rotation.

1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Whether they're get getting these guys fresh, you can now

1:00:24.360 --> 1:00:28.760
<v Speaker 1>use Crawford at the defensive end. Inside that now give

1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you more options to do different things. Again, I just

1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:34.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think these two guys are going to play together

1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:37.840
<v Speaker 1>at the same time for a large majority of the game.

1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:41.800
<v Speaker 1>The bottom line is this right here, the bottom line, Kurt,

1:00:42.000 --> 1:00:45.280
<v Speaker 1>is simple to thish right here, you could not have

1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:48.320
<v Speaker 1>signed these guys. And now your back end it's just

1:00:48.360 --> 1:00:51.400
<v Speaker 1>as ragged as your front end. They have addressed the

1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 1>front end as best they can at this time. They

1:00:54.640 --> 1:00:58.960
<v Speaker 1>will they will pick and choose as as when this

1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:02.840
<v Speaker 1>thing gets started, you know, the OTAs all the way

1:01:02.880 --> 1:01:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to training camp. It'll be some guys out there defensively

1:01:06.320 --> 1:01:09.640
<v Speaker 1>on the defensive front that you can pick and choose from.

1:01:09.720 --> 1:01:12.560
<v Speaker 1>But the where you're not gonna find guys that doing

1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:18.120
<v Speaker 1>after the draft is cornerbacks. Cornerbacks and cornerbacks they're gonna

1:01:18.160 --> 1:01:20.880
<v Speaker 1>be hard to find. So they're gonna have to draft

1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:23.520
<v Speaker 1>these guys. You know, they're gonna have to. They're gonna

1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:25.560
<v Speaker 1>have to put a great effort in drafting these guys.

1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:28.360
<v Speaker 1>That's it's the first time I ever said, you know,

1:01:28.440 --> 1:01:31.080
<v Speaker 1>if it's a corner out, they're go get him because

1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:34.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a premium on corners. You got them have a

1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:37.240
<v Speaker 1>run if they haven't found anybody, I think on the

1:01:37.280 --> 1:01:40.200
<v Speaker 1>back end. And let's Steve coaches make a hell of

1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:44.479
<v Speaker 1>a difference. Yeah, that's the same we're we're talking about

1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:47.479
<v Speaker 1>is the defensive line. Okay, and the secondary is probably

1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:53.600
<v Speaker 1>even worse shape. So ye got some work to do. Well, fellas,

1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:55.920
<v Speaker 1>we got some work to do too, but not on

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<v Speaker 1>this show because we are out of time. So Matt

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<v Speaker 1>I Robot, thank you for keeping us on the air. Nay,

1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:06.040
<v Speaker 1>thanks for bringing it as always, Jesse, get to see

1:02:06.080 --> 1:02:09.960
<v Speaker 1>your beautiful face Man as always, Kurt, good to see

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<v Speaker 1>you're busy and healthy. Keep going from those dobs, but

1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:16.520
<v Speaker 1>stay six six feet away from the neighbors. IM shitting

1:02:16.600 --> 1:02:21.880
<v Speaker 1>gross broadcasting live from the SWBC mortgage bedroom. Hopefully we'll

1:02:21.880 --> 1:02:25.960
<v Speaker 1>have some wings in our homes next week. If I

1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:29.000
<v Speaker 1>don't screw it up again, we will be back next Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven o'clock. Hang it with the Boys, TI time. This

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