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Speaker 1: What is Up, Runner Gang, Welcome back to Post run High.

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Speaker 1: Today's guest is a Broadway star, the one and only

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Speaker 1: Ali Trim, who's currently playing Glinda in Wicket on Broadway.

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Speaker 1: She's been performing since she was a kid, from thirteen

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Speaker 1: the musical To Buye by Bertie, and even a supporting

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Speaker 1: role in the Marvelous Missus Masel, and now she's taking

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Speaker 1: the stage in one of the most iconic roles in theater.

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Speaker 1: What I love most about this conversation is that Ali

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Speaker 1: isn't just talented, she knows how to do the work.

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Speaker 1: She's been showing up, putting in the reps, and growing

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Speaker 1: with this industry since she was a young girl. This

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Speaker 1: podcast is all about inspiring conversations that start with movement,

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Speaker 1: because we believe movement opens people up in ways nothing

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Speaker 1: else does. And today we went for a little run

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Speaker 1: slash walk through Brooklyn before sitting down. In this conversation,

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Speaker 1: we talked about what it was like growing up in

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Speaker 1: child stars, and the mindset it takes to stay grounded

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Speaker 1: through the chaos and magic of Broadway. Ali's story is

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Speaker 1: such a beautiful reminder of what can happen when you

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Speaker 1: just keep moving, both on on stage and all. And

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Speaker 1: for my fellow Wicked fans, a few months ago, you

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Speaker 1: might remember we had Mary Kate Morrissey on the show

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Speaker 1: who played Alphaba on Broadway. So getting to sit down

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Speaker 1: with both Witches of Oz has been a total dream

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Speaker 1: come true for me. So you guys will have to

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Speaker 1: let me know who else from the cast you want

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Speaker 1: me to run and talk with next.

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Speaker 2: We've got great.

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Speaker 1: Episodes coming up, so please make sure you follow the

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Speaker 1: show wherever you get your podcasts. All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: our post run High going. Ali Trim, Welcome to Post

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Speaker 1: Run High. I'm so happy to be here. I am

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Speaker 1: so happy to be sitting down with you. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about this a little bit off camera, but I have

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Speaker 1: had Mary Kate Morrissey, one of the former alpha buzz

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Speaker 1: on Wicked, on with me before, so to be able

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Speaker 1: to sit down with the current Glinda on Broadway is

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Speaker 1: just incredible.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so excited to be here, and I'm so

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Speaker 3: glad that you got to interview Mka.

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Speaker 1: She's awesome. Yeah, we get a little taste of the

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Speaker 1: alphabe world, and now we're going to enter into the

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Speaker 1: world to Linda. Yeah, and I just want to say

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Speaker 1: congratulations on landing the lead role.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's so crazy, like sometimes I wake up and I think,

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Speaker 3: oh man, another day, I got to get my voice ready,

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Speaker 3: wake up and I'm like, wait a second, I have

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Speaker 3: to really stay present for this year because it's going

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Speaker 3: to go by like that, and you spend your whole

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Speaker 3: life working towards one thing, and I just have to

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Speaker 3: keep reminding myself to like actually enjoy it because it's

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Speaker 3: a hard job and I care a lot about doing

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Speaker 3: it well. So I'm trying to find the balance of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it's like you're exhausted, but at the

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Speaker 1: same time, it's this crazy exciting period of your life

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Speaker 1: and you have to enjoy every second of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We started this show with a walk right before this

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Speaker 1: guy's can go watch our walk on my Instagram and

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Speaker 1: Ali's Instagram. This show is all about movement physically, mental, emotionally,

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Speaker 1: and just with people on the pursuit of greatness, which

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Speaker 1: you so are an example of that. But I want

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Speaker 1: to start with movement physically because as Glinda on Broadway,

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Speaker 1: guys are constantly running around. You've got to keep your

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Speaker 1: movement look like in your life? How do you prioritize

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Speaker 1: it off stage? And yeah, just walk us through that.

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Speaker 3: I kind of trained leading up to the show. I

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Speaker 2: And I did that as best as I could. But

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Speaker 3: The eighth show schedule, well I felt like, oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it totally makes sense. Also, I feel like

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Speaker 3: You really do have to put your heart into it,

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Speaker 2: So I don't even know. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 3: But I care about the show so much, and I

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Speaker 3: I've noticed like, if I don't think I can deliver

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Speaker 1: I don't know, no, and I feel like that's so important,

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Speaker 1: and that's why the standbys are there for you, right

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Speaker 1: You are the one performing, and it is a whole,

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Speaker 1: Ali is one of the most impressive people that I

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Speaker 1: and I know you've done a lot of on screen

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Speaker 1: Where did you grow up and what was your childhood like.

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Speaker 3: As a kid, I was always singing, and I think

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Speaker 3: I did start theater really really young, and my life's

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Speaker 3: So things did kind of take a turn young in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like being pulled out of school

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Speaker 1: But well, we're going to get to Wicked in a

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Speaker 3: where you know, there was a fierro who missed one entrance,

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00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 3: and the entrance is kind of pivotal to the plot

441
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 3: because it it inspires Glinda to like go on this

442
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 3: journey of changing her name and her identity to impress him,

443
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 3: but he wasn't there to impress. And that was a

444
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 3: story where I heard where people just had to kind

445
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 3: of like improv and untill okay, is he coming? Nope,

446
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: he's not here yet. Nope, Okay, I guess we're just

447
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna change my name. So stuff happens. Just

448
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 3: last week, there was a last minute someone had to

449
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 3: call out for an emergency, so we had to stop

450
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 3: the show.

451
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 2: We had to hold for like.

452
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 3: Ten minutes, and then when we finally went back into it,

453
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 3: it was like me alone on the stage when the

454
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 3: curtain came up and then just like diving back into

455
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: the show. So things do happen, but everyone is so

456
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 3: professional for the most part at like easing into it

457
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 3: that you might not even notice than anything happens.

458
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: Well, that's because you guys are so good at improv.

459
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 3: People are good.

460
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 2: I don't know about me, but.

461
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: No, but it's so impressive and I think you're right,

462
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: Like that is the beauty of a live show is

463
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: every show is different. Yeah, you know, even though you're

464
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: showing up consistent and like being your Glinda every night,

465
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: it's different. And I feel like that's the coolest part

466
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: about live theater.

467
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: It is really fun.

468
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 3: And like I really thought that maybe going into the

469
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: full time job, it would get monotonous or it would

470
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 3: get I would get tired of doing the same thing

471
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: every night. But I don't feel that way at all.

472
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 3: It consistently feels like exciting and fresh, and I have

473
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: not found that to be part of the struggle of

474
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 3: doing the show, So that's been really pleasant.

475
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: Surprise.

476
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: What was the transition like going from San Diego Theater

477
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: to now you're on Broadway in New York City.

478
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: Just getting to New York was a culture shock.

479
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 3: I was kind of sheltered growing up and I just

480
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: didn't really know that much about anything, and so getting

481
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 3: to New York and just seeing such diverse people and

482
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 3: such a different hustle bustle on the streets, it was,

483
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: you know, exciting change for me, and I fell in

484
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 3: love with it right away. Like I've been in New

485
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 3: York as an adult now for all of my twenties

486
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 3: and I love it here so much. But in terms

487
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: of actually the theater, I didn't feel that it was

488
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: so different. But I think that's because I was too

489
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: young to know how important Broadway was. And I don't

490
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: mean that in like, I don't want that to sound offensive.

491
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: Before your brain fully develops, you don't realize certain things exactly.

492
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 3: I just didn't know how big of a deal it was.

493
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 3: On some level. I did because on some level I

494
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: was very stressed about, like it all going well, but

495
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I thought I was just excited, you know.

496
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 3: I thought, Oh, I'm just excited to be here. I

497
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: was like actually panicked. Subconsciously, I was just happy.

498
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: You know. So it was it was still to me

499
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: like an audience.

500
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 3: As an audience, A show was a show, a cast

501
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 3: is a cast. It didn't change so much the scenery

502
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: or the city that I was in, And in principle

503
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 3: I still think that. I still think that to this day.

504
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: I think that sometimes the quality that you see on

505
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: Broadway is no different than the quality you'd see anywhere else.

506
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: I love theater and I love live performances, and I

507
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: remember seeing Wicked for the first time and coming out

508
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: of it and being like that was incredible. Yeah, but

509
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: the first Broadway show I ever saw was The Lion

510
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: King and then it was Mama Mia with my mom.

511
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: But it's so true that, like, even when I am

512
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: in Connecticut, my parents live in this small town and

513
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: there's like a little theater nearby, and they're always doing

514
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: these small plays and really with no set at all.

515
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: It's just like the people on the stage and maybe

516
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: like one or two props and they're hour and a

517
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: half long performances, and it's incredible.

518
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 3: Sometimes those intimate theater performances are more impactful for the

519
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: audience because you are you feel that you're in it.

520
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: Not to say that Wicked doesn't also transport you to

521
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: this world and you can feel like you're in it.

522
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: But there's something really special about really like seeing a

523
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: stripped down, you know, performance where people can't really hide

524
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: behind the costume, you can't hide behind the glitz of everything.

525
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: It's just like, this is what I have.

526
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: To offer, and there's something super special about those types

527
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 3: of shows.

528
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: What is it about theater that you love so much?

529
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: There's a lot that I love about theater, but there

530
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: is this kind of presence, like this energy where the

531
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: full company is coming together with the same shared goal

532
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: of telling the story you've all decided to tell, and

533
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 3: you're not on your phones, you're not distracted, you're not

534
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: you're right there with one another. And so even as

535
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: a child, I loved theater so much because of the camaraderie,

536
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: the community aspect of it. And then you layer in

537
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 3: like really high skill artistry and seeing people show up

538
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: really putting their best foot forward.

539
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: It's unbeatable.

540
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: It's like you can't match that in any other medium

541
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 3: of art. It's like quite vulnerable too, because every like

542
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: we were saying, it's live theater, every day is different.

543
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: But when people show up and there's this just unspoken

544
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: agreement that I'm going to give you my absolute best.

545
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: I hope it's good enough, and you're gonna give me

546
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: your absolute best, and we're gonna like celebrate and tell

547
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: the story and hopefully people will resonate, it's just really

548
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: like almost spiritual.

549
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: It's like almost.

550
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: It's as present as I have found that I can

551
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: really get in my life, especially when it comes to art.

552
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: But it's, yeah, it's like an unbeatable energy.

553
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: You see kids coming in dressed up in their Glinda

554
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: Alfitz like their alphabet outfits, but they're what's the guy's name, fari,

555
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: fiero fierra.

556
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure some of the little boys are in their fia,

557
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 2: in their fia ferrari.

558
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: But like you see, people dress up every day and

559
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: whatever the show is, and I like so many whether

560
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: it's a small theater or a big production like Broadway.

561
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: I feel like it's spiritual in a sense too, because

562
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: there's so many people in that room, especially young people

563
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: literally that can pinpoint their experience seeing a Broadway show

564
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 1: and being like, that is what I want to do

565
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: when I grow up. And I just think that's so

566
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: cool too, because you're inspiring the next generation of performers.

567
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's I really appreciate hearing that.

568
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 3: And I also resonate with that because and I've maybe

569
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: mentioned this earlier, but the first time I saw Wicked

570
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: on tour, I.

571
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: Was eleven years old.

572
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 3: I was just so blown away by like the spectacle

573
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: of the show and just the material, the songs, the performances,

574
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: the characters. And I waited at the stage door I

575
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 3: got a photo with Kender Cassabaum, who was playing Glinda

576
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: at the time, and I just was like, you know,

577
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: just so in awe. And then the following year, my

578
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: parents took me to see it again and I made

579
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: a T shirt with the printed picture of me and

580
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: Kendra on it. I bedazzled it myself. I handmade a

581
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: collage that I put on the back of the shirt

582
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: of all of the wicked press photos that were Fine

583
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: Bowl at that time. And I staged doored again and

584
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: it was still Kendra, and for whatever reason, she didn't

585
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: come out to the stage door that day, but I

586
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: like refused to let my parents leave, so we waited

587
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: for hours. Not very cool necessarily to do, but I did.

588
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: I was twelve, and finally an ensemble member came back

589
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: and said, oh my gosh, are you still waiting? And

590
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, for Kendra Commercier, and she went and

591
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: grabbed Kendra, who came out, you know, probably at the

592
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: end of a very long week, maybe at the end

593
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 3: of their stop in that city, and she was like,

594
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: I didn't know you were still here. Let me make

595
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: it up to you. Let me bring you backstage. And

596
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: so she took me and my friend backstage, and she

597
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: galindified us, and she put glitter on our eyes and

598
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: she let us look at the costumes up close, and

599
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: that for me was like it I will never forget

600
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: that experience because it was so generous of her time

601
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: to invite me into what's felt so special. I felt like,

602
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: this is so special that I get to see this.

603
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: And when I first joined Wicked as the Glinda standby,

604
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: it was still kind of people were still masked. We

605
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: had a lot of strict COVID rules to keep people healthy,

606
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: so you couldn't bring people backstage. But I started making

607
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: these little barets, these little like flower Glinda barretts, so

608
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: that I could galindify kids at the stage door and

609
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: kind of like have my own attempt at giving some

610
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: semblance of what I felt Kendrick gave to me back

611
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: in the day. And it is definitely a pretty magical

612
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: experience to see kids, you know, I see myself. I

613
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: just look at them and I'm like, that was me,

614
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: you know, and and this could be you in a

615
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: couple years. You know, it's really beautiful, it's special.

616
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: That story gave me chills. I'm like, literally like, sparkles

617
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: are flying, I know. Also the fact that you dazzled

618
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: the shirt is very Glinda.

619
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, pink and green rhymestones.

620
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: It was like it was cute. Yeah for sure, Like

621
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: that is the most Linda thing I've ever heard. Did

622
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: you hear that?

623
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

624
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: You end up for a little bit going to Stamford,

625
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: and then you dabbled in on screen performances, took a

626
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: break from Stamford, came back. Guys, twenty twenty three, you

627
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: did graduate from Stamford.

628
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: That is so incredible. Almost almost, Okay, I did go back.

629
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: I did go back to school because during COVID everything

630
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: went online and I was like, oh, what a perfect

631
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: opportunity to continue my education. But technically I still have

632
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: one year left. Technically I'm a rising senior.

633
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: Okay, forever, Oh my gosh. Okay.

634
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: Also, Stamford, Hello academics. Should we talk about Bye Bye

635
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: Birdie first? I mean, it was an incredible experience. I

636
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: got to work with John Stamos, who was very kind

637
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: to all of us as kids. But the best part

638
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: of the Bye by Bertie story is that Danny Quadrino

639
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: was in it and he was the understudy for Hugo,

640
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: so we became good friends and he's now playing back

641
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: in Wicked with me.

642
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: Now your whole life is like a full circle moment. Yeah,

643
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: I literally feel that way. Like I'm like, I can't

644
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: stress my way through this year. I have to enjoy

645
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: this because there's too much of the universe has conspired

646
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: to bring me to this moment, and I have to

647
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: just enjoy it and like laugh at how beautifully things

648
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: have timed out. But yeah, Danny Quadrino and I became

649
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: good friends. There were other people from both thirteen and

650
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: by by Bertie that have either been in Wicked or

651
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: you know, everyone's kind of continued their careers in one

652
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: way or another.

653
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: That's my favorite thing when I talk to performers is

654
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: finding out like how many shows they've done, like what

655
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: people have been a part of. Like it's just cool

656
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: knowing that you guys are this small community really of performers.

657
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure every but a lot of people know

658
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: each other. It's like living in a small town.

659
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: And I feel like.

660
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: All of the people, at least in like the two

661
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: thousand and eight era of child actors on Broadway, we

662
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: all know each other. We all it was such a

663
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: small world, and so it's very sweet to like watch

664
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: people go through their lives. A lot of folks that

665
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: I know have left the industry, altogether and now have

666
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: like thriving lives in completely other you know, genres of work,

667
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: and some people are still auditioning, some people are still working.

668
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: It's just very cool to know that we all kind

669
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: of started from this very bizarre, little tiny bubble of

670
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: Broadway kids.

671
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: Weird.

672
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, absolutely, And I feel like there's some synergy

673
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: to between a lot of like child Broadway stars go on,

674
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: Like when I think of very on a Grande, like

675
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: they go on, they start on Broadway and then they

676
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: end up also like taking on all these different roles

677
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: within the industry, whether it's on screen or singing.

678
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: I interviewed the guy, this guy.

679
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: Max to you Capital m Ax, Yeah, and he's yeah,

680
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: he's also did wait were you on thirteen with Ariana?

681
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: Yes?

682
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: Yes, I am uncovering show straight now.

683
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: Okay, we I don't know why I didn't put that together,

684
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: but yes, the show that he was on with Ariana,

685
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: it was so it was you, it was Max, Arianna

686
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: you who else?

687
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: Liz Gillies, who had.

688
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: Interviewing her on Wednesday next there you go, Hi, Liz.

689
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: She was in it. Graham Phillips, Al Calderone, who's in

690
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: a music artist, Brynn Williams, who is now teaching and

691
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: directing a lot of theater, but has had a massive

692
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: Broadway career.

693
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

694
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: I mean there were a lot of crazy talented kids

695
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: that have come from that show.

696
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: The fact that you and Ariana Grande both came out

697
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: of thirteen and are Glinda's is is that crazy?

698
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: Sparks are fine?

699
00:34:53,160 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: I know you played Kim on Bye Bye Bertie, and

700
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: that's a really like vocally mature role, isn't it.

701
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also kind of like, look again, I

702
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: was too young to really know what was going on.

703
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: I was sixteen when I turned sixteen towards the end

704
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: of the run or somewhere in there.

705
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: So fifteen years old, lead role on Bye Bye Bertie, just.

706
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: Coming off of thirteen, and I alongside like celebrities, you know,

707
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: like big names in that show. And I hadn't really

708
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: developed my soprano voice yet in thirteen. It was like

709
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: all big belty kind of stuff, and it was pre puberty,

710
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: like your voice as a child is different than your

711
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: voice as a teenager. And then yeah, Bye Bye Bertie

712
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: was a little bit more in the soprano kind of realm,

713
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 3: and I remember.

714
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: What does that sound like?

715
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: You know it to go from a mid range big

716
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: belt to what's the.

717
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: One boy, one special boy? That's too high, but.

718
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, prettier and more towards Glinda, more

719
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: towards that is in the same kind Linda genre of singing. Yeah,

720
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: I was like too young to really know how to

721
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: do that with my voice. Yet it was all instinct.

722
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 3: It was all instinct at that age. I was just

723
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 3: singing it and winging it and hoping that it worked out.

724
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: Well, it did work out, And then at what point

725
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: did you say, I want to go to Stanford and

726
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: also like such an incredibly academic school. So it's just

727
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: insane knowing that all while you were on Broadway child

728
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: star massive roles. But miss academics over here is getting

729
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: into Stanford not for theater for psychology, right.

730
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, So I took a gap year before

731
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: I went to Stanford. I was I was very excited,

732
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: of course to get into that school and to go

733
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: study there, but I wanted to like try TV and

734
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: film for so I lived in la for a year,

735
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: but I was like seventeen, and it just like I

736
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: had a year of like doing acting and then I thought, okay,

737
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 3: that's good enough, I'm gonna do school. And for all

738
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 3: of high school it was like both at the same time.

739
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: So it was important for me at that time to

740
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: like really put it all in one basket and just

741
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: commit to acting and then just commit to education. But

742
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: that's also why I didn't last four years at Stanford,

743
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: because I was like, one year was enough.

744
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: I want to go back to singing.

745
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine balancing the two, Like it's just way.

746
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 2: Too much work.

747
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so much to juggle, and you can't

748
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: really put your best foot forward when you have that

749
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: much that you're trying to succeed in at once, at

750
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: least for me. So I did enjoy my time at Stanford,

751
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 3: and I wanted to study psychology because I really wanted

752
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: to understand more about what I went through as a teenager. Honestly,

753
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: I was like, these experiences did something to my brain.

754
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: I got to figure it out.

755
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: So that was why I was initially interested in studying psychology.

756
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 3: I also thought like, oh, this parallels with acting very intuitively.

757
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: To understand how people think and how people operate and

758
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: behave is like the whole point of acting, or like

759
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: the whole skill of acting. So I was at Stanford,

760
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: but I really quickly was like, I feel like I'm

761
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: missing out on my career. I feel like if I'm

762
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: gonna pursue theater and acting, it has to be now,

763
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: or I'm gonna lose all of the momentum that I

764
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: built as a young person and I'm gonna have to

765
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: start over from scratch. So I dropped out indefinite leave

766
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: of absence, so they say, and I moved to New York.

767
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: But I did sort of have to start over because.

768
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: Now I was like nineteen or twenty, I'm no longer

769
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: auditioning for teenage roles or I'm like I am but

770
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: I'm a little too old for them, but I'm a

771
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: little too young for.

772
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: The adult leads.

773
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: So I did have to figure it out the way

774
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: that most people coming to New York are going to

775
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 3: have to figure it out. Like, of course, I had

776
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: these experiences to bolster my resume or to give me

777
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: some understanding of how the industry works. So not to

778
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: discount that, but I did have to reintroduce myself and

779
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: rediscover myself as an artist. There's even like you have

780
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: to relearn how to sing once you go through once

781
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: you get into your twenties, you have to relearn how

782
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: to carry yourself.

783
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: You have a new body of a new voice.

784
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: So there was a lot of relearning that I did

785
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 3: in my early New York years of course.

786
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean when I think of relearning too, I

787
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: think of Justin Bieber and him going for them from

788
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: that like childhood voice to his voice now and he

789
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: did it beautifully. And yeah, but it is such a

790
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: thing you have to relearn. For parents out there that

791
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: have kids that are doing what you were doing, right,

792
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: like our childhood actors, stars performers, what should they be

793
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: think thinking about in terms of making sure like their

794
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: kids are staying mentally strong because like, just hearing that

795
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: you had you struggled with it, Like, let's unpack that

796
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: a little bit.

797
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: This is also why I wanted to study psychology Like this,

798
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 3: I'm so passionate about mental health for people, mental health

799
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 3: for young artists. I think that if you're a parent

800
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: with a child who wants to do this, you have

801
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: to decide what you want your role as parent to be.

802
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: Do you want to be the parent or do you

803
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: want to be the manager? Do you want to be

804
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: the you know, the agent of your kid and get

805
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: them success no matter what, or do you want to

806
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: be the parent that is the shoulder to cry on

807
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 3: when things are tough, because the industry is tough no

808
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: matter what.

809
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: I mean.

810
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: You could be the most talented person to walk the

811
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: earth and you're gonna struggle at some point. Something is

812
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: not gonna align and you're gonna be like, but I

813
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: was perfect for that, and I nailed it, and it's

814
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: just not gonna go your way. And so if you

815
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: as the parent, are approaching your child with the priority

816
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: of I want you to be successful, because then you'll

817
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: be happy and then you'll be you know, the reverse

818
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: is I want you as my child to be happy

819
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: so that you can feel successful in however things pan out.

820
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: I think it's just a distinction of perspective and what

821
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: role does the parent play.

822
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: I also think that.

823
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: For the people pursuing the industry, you have to have

824
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: some perspective of who you are as well. If you

825
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: wrap your whole identity up in your work, like in

826
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: any industry, we know across the board that that's not healthy.

827
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: Like you wouldn't look at someone who is like spending

828
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 3: you know, eighty hours a week grinding at their job

829
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: and think like that's a healthy person or that person

830
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: you know is probably thriving in their life. They might

831
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 3: be making a lot of money, might have some version

832
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: of success, and maybe they are really happy with that,

833
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: but it isn't necessarily the way to succeed.

834
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: And that's why I like talking about the fact that

835
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: you were interested in going to Stanford and studying psychology

836
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: and doing something outside of acting, because people have lives

837
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: outside of this one thing, right, And I think for you,

838
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: like when you were in high school and even now,

839
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: like what do you love to do outside of performing

840
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: and acting?

841
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: Like what is ali Like? Oh my gosh, off off stage,

842
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: off camera. There are so many things that I like.

843
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: I like to eat good food. I like to enjoy

844
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: the landscape of New York. I like to go bouldering

845
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: and rock climbing.

846
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, I like picked it up as

847
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: a hobby in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one and just

848
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: like fell in love with it. And that was probably

849
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: actually the first time that I realized, oh yeah, this

850
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: is what a hobby is. It's where you do something

851
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: for fun with no intend to impress anybody or make

852
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 3: any money.

853
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: That is the point of a hobby. And like I

854
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: didn't know.

855
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 3: So now I've like taken myself on some trips around

856
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: the world to do some outdoor climbing.

857
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: I'm by no means great at it. Okay, I love it.

858
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: That is so cool. It's so cool Glinda goes to

859
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: the mountains.

860
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I don't need a bubble to get up there,

861
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 3: you know, I climb myself.

862
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm obsessed with that.

863
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: You need hobbies outside literally, even me, Like when I

864
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: my hobby used to be running because I was working

865
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: in advertising, and I've had to figure out, like now

866
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: running has become like a part of my job. But

867
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like I still love running.

868
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: It still is a hobby for me to go on

869
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: solo runs by myself, right, and.

870
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: I love it.

871
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: But I have had to be like, Okay, like I

872
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: need to figure out a couple other things. And I

873
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: started like loving to read biographies and just like learn

874
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: about people. It's actually been really fun. Yeah, And I

875
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: was never really a reader, and recently I'm leaning into

876
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: memoirs and biographies and just like having those chill moments.

877
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: And it's necessary because I need to have things where

878
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: like rock climbing, where it's literally like you who cannot

879
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: be on your phone?

880
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you really can't. You really can't with that one.

881
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

882
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 3: When I first started at Wicked, I really quickly realized, Okay,

883
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: I care about this way too much. I have to

884
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: remember that I can care about other things too, or

885
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: else I'm gonna lose my mind. And I rescue a

886
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 3: dog and I now have the most angelic, perfect little

887
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 3: rescue dog.

888
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: His name is Kip. And that was like another you

889
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,479
Speaker 2: can't call a dog a hobby, but one thing. Yeah,

890
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: going to the dog park is a hobby. If it's

891
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: my hobby, I love him.

892
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: And it was just like something where I was like,

893
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 3: I need to shift my perspective and remember that not everything,

894
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: you know, if I have a bad if my voice sounds,

895
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: you know, less than ideal on a show, or like

896
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: something goes wrong, it can't be the thing that matters

897
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: most to me, because then I'm just setting myself up

898
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 3: for like the type of vulnerability that is a little

899
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 3: difficult to bounce back from. And if I just can

900
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: keep some perspective that, like, the world is bigger than

901
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: this one performance, then probably all of the performances will

902
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: be better because I'll be less stressed and I'll have

903
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: more fun. And everybody wants to watch people having fun.

904
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: No one wants to watch someone like thinking about how

905
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: they're singing as they're singing it.

906
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: I just have to say, like, your performances are pretty perfect,

907
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: and I think like just having those, like even just

908
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: having this conversation with you, and I think people are

909
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: going to be so excited to.

910
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: Hear that, like you're human, Stuff happens.

911
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: You're not gonna come off stage every night and be

912
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: like that was the best I've ever did, But it

913
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: makes those moments where you do come off stage and

914
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: you're like, damn, that was a pretty good performance even better, right,

915
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: because if we were perfect all the time, like life

916
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: would be so boring.

917
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: The other day, just the other day, there's this one

918
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 3: note that Glenna sings that's like quite low and usually

919
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 3: I can hit it, and this.

920
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 2: One show, oh my gosh, it just.

921
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: Was like like it just didn't come out right, and

922
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: I was I mentioned it to one of my cast

923
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: mates and I was like, I really kind of like

924
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: mess that up, huh, And she goes, oh, yeah, but

925
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 3: a little imperfection suits everybody.

926
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, Yeah, yeah, fair, we have

927
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: to talk about the Marvelous Missus Mazel because that was

928
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Like when I think of my favorite shows,

929
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: I think of the Marvelous Missus Masel. I think of

930
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: what was that advertising show mad Men?

931
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: Mad Men?

932
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: Like I love that era. The way it's produced is perfect.

933
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: And you played Daisy right.

934
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a very small role. This was like

935
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: one day. Yes it was in their their final season.

936
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: It was like a one day of shooting. But you

937
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: have to put something like that on your resume because

938
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 3: it's the Marvelous Missus Mazel. I mean it was very cool.

939
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: The day of filming that I was there, I got

940
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: to meet Rachel Brosnhan. I got to kind of like

941
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 3: have like a very brief interaction with her.

942
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: It was cool to see.

943
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 3: How they built like the costumes and the sets that day.

944
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: It was so many extras in the in the scene

945
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 3: as well. So to have everybody come and like within

946
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: an hour and a half just be like dulled.

947
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: Up to the fifties, it was. It was spectacular.

948
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, literally like dolled up to the fifties, like.

949
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: In the truest form.

950
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: The costume design on that and the set design on

951
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: that show is incredible. The production is everything's just like

952
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: so good. I'm obsessed when producers and directors and the costume,

953
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: Like when everything just comes together so beautifully, I'm like, oh,

954
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: they might create.

955
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: They were got tight ship there too, Like it all

956
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 3: has to be word perfect for Miss Mazel. Not every

957
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: like set or every production company is like very strict

958
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: about being word perfect. I when I was a kid,

959
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: I filmed a scene in a thirty Rock episode with

960
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: Tina Fey and John Ham speaking of Iconic and were

961
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: They were just riffing off of each other the whole time.

962
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: They asked me to add lib and I took the

963
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: ad libs too far. They were like, actually, we're gonna

964
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: have you go back to the script. I took it

965
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: a little too far off script. But they were just

966
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: riffing and improving. And but at Miss Mazel it was

967
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: like if you drop the word the and you kind

968
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: of just like say, they will give you a line

969
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: note and they're like, you have to say the word

970
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: of the.

971
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: So it's a tight tight Uh.

972
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's because they're trying to so much

973
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: so match. Also, the way they spoke in that era

974
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: is totally yeah, and.

975
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 2: It's to give it a consistent tone.

976
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 3: Like it's also the same creators of Gilmore Girls, I think,

977
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: and so it's a very specific tone where there's like

978
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: this pattern of speech that you can recognize, Oh, that

979
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: is like the style of the show, and you have

980
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: to even for people who are you know, listening and acting,

981
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: you can look at the other work that these producers

982
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: have created and understand when you're auditioning for a piece,

983
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 3: like for Miss maisl this is the style of speech

984
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 3: they're going to look for, This is the word perfect

985
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 3: expectation they're going to have, And then that can also

986
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: kind of help you for success when you're trying to

987
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 3: audition for something like that.

988
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely. And it's interesting too.

989
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: I feel like certain castings probably want word perfect and

990
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: some are like, we want you to be able to

991
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: add live a little bit. When you say Tina fe,

992
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: I immediately think of Amy Poehler, Oh my god, right,

993
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: Like the two of them are always yeah is that right?

994
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: And am I gonna give the right person?

995
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: And they just like it's magic watching artists that speak

996
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: the same language be able to just bring the best

997
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: out in each other.

998
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: I am obsessed right now with Amy Pohler's podcast.

999
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if you haven't. I've seen little clips

1000
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: on TikTok That's what I've been seeing.

1001
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I've seen clips on TikTok her and Dakota Johnson.

1002
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: Yes.

1003
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is so freaking funny.

1004
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: I saw the clip of that with Amy Pohler being like,

1005
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: how do you rev yourself up for a sex scene?

1006
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: And Dakota was like, I don't need to rev myself

1007
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: up for I'm always revbed what.

1008
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Dakota's like comedic timing is so funny. She

1009
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: is so funny. She's so funny. Gorgeous, Yeah, just gorgeous.

1010
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: What was it like going from on stage performances in

1011
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: your teens to then on screen?

1012
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 3: Totally different, different fields, different almost different industries. Like it's

1013
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: totally different skill sets. I have a lot more experience

1014
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: in theater. I have a lot more experience knowing how

1015
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 3: to like carry myself on a stage, But when you're

1016
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 3: carrying yourself for a screen, it's just a different set

1017
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: of skills. So anytime that I've been on a like

1018
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: a set for something on camera, I feel very much

1019
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: like a small fish in a big pond, like soaking

1020
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: in the expertise around me. I feel like, at least

1021
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 3: in theater, I like feel confident in my skills. I

1022
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 3: know what I'm bringing to the table. But maybe someday

1023
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: I'll have enough experience to feel a little bit more

1024
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: like I know what I'm doing.

1025
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: I feel like that. Yeah, I mean, I hope so.

1026
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: And not to say that I've been like totally panicked

1027
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: in the past, but it's just a new environment and

1028
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: things run a little differently. What I will say is

1029
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: I did an indie film month and we had like

1030
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: a few months in a small town in the Midwest,

1031
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: and that felt different than TV. Even like making a

1032
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 3: film where you're with the same people for a long

1033
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 3: period of time, building the same story. You know, sitting

1034
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 3: with the same care that's one thing, and it's closer

1035
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 3: to something like a long running show Liquicked, where you're

1036
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 3: doing the same story, that's the same character, same company.

1037
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: But then when you have these one off days of

1038
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: filming here and there, it's a little bit like, Okay,

1039
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: you know, you don't know anybody necessarily, so it's just

1040
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1041
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: Like you're thrown in.

1042
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: You deliver and you leave, and then that's like the

1043
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 3: whole skill is just being able to show up and

1044
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: be on right away. There's no ease into it, so

1045
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: just different skills.

1046
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: I was talking to someone that is doing theater right now,

1047
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: Eliah Scott. She was an actress and sex sized with

1048
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: college Girls. Now she's producing I think she's producing Slash

1049
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: directing this play, but I don't even if it's running anymore.

1050
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: But it was like a short stint of a play

1051
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: off Broadway in New York, and I was asking her, like,

1052
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: what was it like going from on screen to now

1053
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: being back on stage performing and she was like, well,

1054
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: what I love about on stage performing is that you

1055
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: don't have to redo the takes.

1056
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: It is what it is.

1057
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 3: There's so much freedom in that. There's pressure in that,

1058
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: but it's so freeing.

1059
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, and those rehearsals involved for you to

1060
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: get it right. But yeah, that was one of the

1061
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: things that she said, and I found it really interesting.

1062
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 3: That's been something actually that I think about lately, because like,

1063
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 3: the culture of bootlegs is crazier than it's ever been.

1064
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 3: I think, what do you mean by bootleg Like when

1065
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: people film live theater and then they post it online illegal,

1066
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: Oh helpful for people who don't have access fun.

1067
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: But all got it.

1068
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 3: When I come down in the bubble, like I can

1069
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 3: look out and see immediately like the twelve reflective screens

1070
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 3: glaring back, and I know, okay, whatever I do right now, yeah,

1071
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 3: it's the one live take, but like it's gonna live

1072
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: online forever. So that's an interesting new thing in the

1073
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 3: theater world that I don't know, Like I'm still figuring

1074
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: out exactly how I feel about it, because I do

1075
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: watch them. I do watch them when they come up

1076
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: on TikTok is say oh Jen smart and death becomes sir,

1077
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: let me watch that.

1078
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, But that I would have mixed feelings about it too,

1079
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: because it does come with this added pressure of being like,

1080
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: oh wait, I thought this was going to be an

1081
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: intimate performance and now we're filming.

1082
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: For TikTok yeah and YouTube. Yeah.

1083
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: And then it makes me think like if I were performed, Okay,

1084
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: this is like kind of a digression. If I were

1085
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 3: performing on a big Broadway stage there's two thousand seats.

1086
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: You know, you have a certain thing that you do

1087
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: to like tell the story.

1088
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 2: But then I see these.

1089
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 3: Tiktoks come out and it's like zoomed in like right here,

1090
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 3: and so what I whatever the actor, whether it's me

1091
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: or someone else, is doing to read to the you know,

1092
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: two hundredth row you're getting right here, So then it's

1093
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: creating the I don't know if I'm right about this.

1094
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: This is just my hunch.

1095
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 3: It's creating this like thing in acting on stage where

1096
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: you're both simultaneously acting for the full audience, but you're

1097
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: also sort of acting for a close up.

1098
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true.

1099
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: I'm curious what other people think, if anyone else has

1100
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: noticed this. But how do you do both? And I

1101
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: guess the answer is you just be honest and you

1102
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: like you just tell the story. But I don't know,

1103
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 3: it's different. So this is a different perspective.

1104
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: But when I'm filming my running interview show selfie style,

1105
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: it's very different when the member you even asked me,

1106
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: like the cameras in front of us as well. Right,

1107
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes we have Jeremy cumm and he films, and I

1108
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: want to start filming the show more consistently horizontal so

1109
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: that we can get.

1110
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: The episodes up on YouTube.

1111
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: But it is so different interviewing like this style where

1112
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: the cameras are. Hey, guys, the cameras are out there

1113
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: versus like me holding it. It's like a different cadence

1114
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: of conversation. And the close up is very different than

1115
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: the far away, and you can't you can't really do

1116
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: both of the same. You can't optimize at the same time. Yeah,

1117
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just a different vibe.

1118
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: I haven't talked to anyone about my thoughts on bootleg acting,

1119
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 3: so I kind of want to like survey the crowd

1120
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 3: and see what people think if that's a real thing

1121
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 3: or not.

1122
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just me.

1123
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, But also like having reflecting phones in your face

1124
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: when you're performing, it's distracting, So distracting your phones away. Guys,

1125
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: you're in this dream role right now as Glenda on Broadway.

1126
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: But I love knowing that. You also love on screen acting.

1127
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 1: So do you see yourself in the future getting back

1128
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: into that.

1129
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm at a point in my life

1130
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: where whatever I do after Glinda, I've only planned this far,

1131
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: Like Glinda was my dream job and now I'm doing it,

1132
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 3: and I haven't really thought about what comes next. So

1133
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: maybe there's some screen acting, maybe there's more theater, maybe

1134
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: there's like marriage and family, Like I really don't know

1135
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: what my next steps are going to be after this show.

1136
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: Well, if you could pick a dreams series to be

1137
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: a part of, and this is just to like get

1138
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: a sense of your personality, Oh my god, what would

1139
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: you love to be in?

1140
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 3: Uh like put me on Glee, Put me in Glee,

1141
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 3: let me sing, let me be ridiculous, and let me

1142
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 3: be dramatic. But at the same time, I just know

1143
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 3: that would like come back to bite me, you know,

1144
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: like it's come back.

1145
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 2: To bite mister Schuster. But it's okay.

1146
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: I think it would be fun to be in a

1147
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: long you know, long running musical sitcom.

1148
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: How fun would that be? Mm hmm.

1149
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: It'd be fun to see you you and it also

1150
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: be fun to see like what type of theater kid?

1151
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: Are you?

1152
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 3: On the flip side, though, I actually really like scary

1153
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: things and it would be really fun to do like

1154
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: horror films because I love watching them. I love like

1155
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: thinking about what they're going through as the actor is

1156
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 3: creating scary films. I think that would also be very

1157
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: fun to do something in like the Yeah, a little spooky,

1158
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: little scorpio spooky show.

1159
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: Are you scorpio scorpio. Yeah, oh, a scorpio stellium.

1160
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm cancer and scorpio and cancers are very compatible.

1161
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: My fiance scorpio.

1162
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was his birthday November sixth, one's October

1163
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: October twenty seven. Yeah, so you're very close to Halloween. Yeah.

1164
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got that spooky energy. You know, I've got

1165
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: that witchy energy.

1166
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, it's like perfect guy. You're in Wicked.

1167
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so twenty twenty one to twenty twenty four, you

1168
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: were stand by as Glinda on Broadway. Let's talk about

1169
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: auditioning how you got that part, and paint the picture

1170
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: of what it looks like to be a standby.

1171
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 3: Okay, So I first auditioned for Wicked. I was out

1172
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: of town filming a Hallmark Christmas movie. And funny enough,

1173
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: the character that I was playing in this Hallmark movie

1174
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: was kind of Glinda esque, like kind of bubbly, kind

1175
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: of cheery.

1176
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: What's the Hallmark movie so we can watch? Oh my gosh,

1177
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: it's called Next Stop Christmas. Are you the main character

1178
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: in it?

1179
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,479
Speaker 3: No? I have like a couple of small scenes, okay,

1180
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: but it was super fun to do. We filmed it

1181
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: in like the heat of August or September. But anyway,

1182
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 3: I was out of town filming that when I got

1183
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: the audition request for Wicked, and I literally like my

1184
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: heart stopped. I thought, Oh, the chance is here. I've

1185
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: waited my whole life for this email to come and

1186
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: show up, and it is here. And I have only

1187
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 3: a suitcase of like sweats with me. So I threw

1188
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 3: together what I could for a self tape and I

1189
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: submitted it and my manager was like, you sound great,

1190
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: you look great, but you have to just refilm it,

1191
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: and you have to wear pink and curl your hair.

1192
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 3: And I was like, you've got to be kidding me, Like,

1193
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 3: don't people have an imagination? Yeah, the quality is there,

1194
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: and they were like, no, just trust us, and so

1195
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 3: I did. I said, okay, I went and like rent

1196
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 3: the runway a bunch of pink dresses, and I refilmed

1197
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 3: it and sent it in and immediately got an in

1198
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 3: person callback, which I was thrilled about that, Like the

1199
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: whole story could have ended there and I would have

1200
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 3: still been like I did that, like I touched Wicked

1201
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: in some way, And so I had an in person

1202
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 3: callback a few weeks later, and I went in and

1203
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: the music director of Wicked, his name is Dan Mitchik.

1204
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: He looked at my resume and he recognized thirteen. So

1205
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: this is one of those things where it's like I

1206
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't be where I am without the things that I

1207
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: did as a child. Anyway, he saw thirteen and he

1208
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: was like, wait, which one were you? And I was

1209
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: like in Glinda character, I was like, I was the

1210
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 3: main one, you know, just kind of being kind of

1211
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 3: a diva. And he said, we'll prove it sing and

1212
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: the piano player started playing one of the main songs

1213
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 3: that I sung in thirteen that I haven't sung in

1214
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 3: ten years, and I said, if I'm going to sing

1215
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: this song, I'm singing it as Glinda. And I just

1216
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 3: went into this performance of what it means to be

1217
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: a friend but as Glinda, and it got a chuckle

1218
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 3: out of the room, it got a chuckle out of me.

1219
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 3: The energy was really good, and I left thinking something

1220
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: is going to come from this.

1221
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: And I had one more.

1222
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 3: Follow up, a callback with our associate director and they

1223
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 3: film it so that they can send it to like

1224
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 3: the whole team of everybody.

1225
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: And that audition I went in.

1226
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 3: I did like one song and they were like, that's

1227
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: all thanks, and I was like.

1228
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: Oh, like maybe this is the end of the road.

1229
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 3: But it was right after my twenty seventh, by my

1230
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: twenty seventh birthday, on the twenty seventh, that I got

1231
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 3: the call that I would be joining the company. And

1232
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: you know, I had like a golden birthday theme and

1233
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 3: I was kind of manifesting, like what do I want

1234
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 3: for this year of my life? And to get that

1235
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 3: as the start of that year was just the hugest gift.

1236
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 3: And I had like two weeks of rehearsal. A lot

1237
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: of people were still I mean we were like not

1238
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 3: really out of the clear. I mean we were not

1239
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 3: really in the clear with COVID yet, so there were

1240
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 3: a lot of restrictions around who could come into the building,

1241
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 3: how we could rehearse. People were out sick a lot,

1242
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 3: so it was a little bit of a stressful time.

1243
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 3: And I walked in on this kind of like resurgence,

1244
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 3: bringing Broadway back from a very dark time for theater.

1245
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: And I had very limited rehearsal. I had one put

1246
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: in and then I made my debut the following week

1247
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: on Christmas Day of twenty twenty one. Wow. So that

1248
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 3: was like crazy Christmas to remember. And I loved being

1249
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: a standby. I just would have stayed there forever. I

1250
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 3: loved the job so much. I loved the ability to

1251
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 3: pop in and do the show here and then with

1252
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: the knowledge that I could rest and recover afterwards, so

1253
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 3: like it always felt manageable, doable. It felt like I

1254
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 3: could really give it my all and then rest. And

1255
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 3: the challenge with doing it full time, of course, is

1256
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 3: that you have to figure out how to maintain that

1257
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 3: level of performance. And the challenge with the standby position

1258
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 3: is that you never know when you're going to go on,

1259
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 3: so you have to be ready, but you don't really always.

1260
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: Have any notice.

1261
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: So there are pros and cons of each job type,

1262
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: I guess, but I really loved being a standby.

1263
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: I also feel like being a standby before you are

1264
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: like the.

1265
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: Lead, is kind of a great experience.

1266
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: Because you learn the role and you figure out, like,

1267
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: what is the Glinda that I want to be? Do

1268
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: you feel like having had that experience, it's now helped

1269
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: you so much as the lead.

1270
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. It's also been incredibly helpful to watch

1271
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 3: so many other Glinda's come in and see them go

1272
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 3: through the process, See how they find their own voice

1273
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 3: in it, how they find their body in it, See

1274
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 3: how they navigate the challenges of the job over the

1275
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 3: course of their year. I've just learned so much from

1276
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 3: watching these pros come in and like kind of pay

1277
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 3: the way. And I also have learned a lot from

1278
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: being able to do the show with so many different Alphaba's.

1279
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 3: So in my time a standby, I've done the show

1280
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: with at least seven different women playing Alphaba. And you

1281
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 3: learn a lot just from having that different scene partner,

1282
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 3: the different you know, even different ensemble members, different Wizard,

1283
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 3: different Madam Morble. It brings out different things in the

1284
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 3: material that you might not have ever noticed before. So

1285
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: now being in the show a full time, I've had

1286
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 3: so many years to sit with the material and like

1287
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 3: really discover all of these little baby nuances that I

1288
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 3: don't that it took me, you know, a couple of

1289
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 3: years to even think, oh, what if I did this here?

1290
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 3: Like what if you know, I never even thought about

1291
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 3: that line being said like that before, but that just

1292
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 3: happened organically, And it's a huge gift.

1293
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: That I had that time to prepare.

1294
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: And now it's like, you know, the show like the

1295
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: back of your hand.

1296
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: Totally.

1297
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. I used to like wake up in a cold sweat.

1298
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 3: I would like run the sho show in my dreams,

1299
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 3: like just in case. And now I feel like I

1300
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 3: could play any role I could. I might not do

1301
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 3: it well, but I could probably spit those lines out.

1302
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: What is your favorite song to perform in the musical?

1303
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: It switches depending on like the day, depending on how

1304
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 3: my voice is feeling. I will never get tired of

1305
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 3: singing the opening number, No One warns the Wicked.

1306
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 2: It's just like a very beautiful without.

1307
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 3: Spoiling anything, in case people don't somehow know how Wicked ends.

1308
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 3: Glinda's arc starts and ends with this song, and so

1309
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: she is kind of like going through a whole myriad

1310
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 3: of emotions, all covered by this like presentational like diplomatic,

1311
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 3: you know, front, And it happens to be sitting in

1312
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 3: this huge, soaring soprano that like when you have those

1313
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 3: top of the show nerves, it just.

1314
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 2: Like comes out.

1315
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: It's just so much fun to sing up there, and

1316
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: I will never get tired of it. And it's like

1317
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 3: you're in the bubble in this massive dress, uh, sparkling.

1318
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 2: It's so fun. It's so fun.

1319
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I feel like outside of like the actual performance,

1320
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: I would geek out over the costumes.

1321
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: The costumes are incredible. Okay.

1322
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: That's the other great thing about being in the full

1323
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 3: time position now is that I've had all of the

1324
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 3: costumes made just for me. So when you're a standby

1325
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 3: in its own cool way, you're wearing different mixed match

1326
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: pieces from other Glinda's costumes from the past, and that's

1327
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 3: fun because you're like, oh wow, I'm wearing like Kendra

1328
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 3: Cassabaum's corset and she was the first Glinda I ever saw.

1329
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: Very cool.

1330
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 3: But then to be able to like have these custom

1331
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 3: dresses fit and made for you with your name stitched in,

1332
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 3: it feels so special and like it's like kind of

1333
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 3: just I don't know, it just feels like this girly

1334
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: little special thing.

1335
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: You're living out your princess like fairy tale to us.

1336
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 2: But I mean, how could you not.

1337
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: And what's different about your Glinda dresses that like we

1338
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: haven't seen before.

1339
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: They're all handmade. And I also have a brand new crown.

1340
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 3: That's probably the most different of my costumes is that

1341
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 3: I have a brand new bubble crown, which is the

1342
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 3: blue crown that Glinda wears at the top of the

1343
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: show and so no one has ever worn it, only me.

1344
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: No, The costume thing is one of the coolest things.

1345
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: And I remember like when Mary Kate Morrison and I

1346
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: when we first did the Who's Glinda in twenty twenty

1347
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: four Sorry Alpha ba hell E, see she was Alphaba

1348
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, and her and I like two

1349
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: years ago when I was kind of first starting out

1350
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: the running interview show. We ran from Central Park to

1351
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: the Gershwin Theater and she tore us around and I

1352
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: remember one of the things that she said to me

1353
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: was how she was stand by at the time and

1354
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: she was wearing I forget who which Alphaba was, but

1355
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: she was wearing their costume and how special it was

1356
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: even like asked stand by to be able to wear

1357
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: the costume of this other incredible performer and like woman

1358
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: that wore it before her. And I think the cool

1359
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: thing then about becoming the Alpha Mee Glinda and having

1360
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: these custom costumes made for you is like future generations

1361
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: of Glenda are gonna wear those and be like this

1362
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: is the costume that Ali wore.

1363
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it really does feel like when I talk

1364
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 3: about the spiritual presence of theater. This is part of it,

1365
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 3: like the whole energy that you bring your you know,

1366
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 3: operating from this frequency, and it just you know, in

1367
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 3: my mind, it's like the costumes feel it, and then

1368
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 3: the people who wear the costumes will feel it. And

1369
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 3: I hope that if anyone wears my skirt in the future, whatever,

1370
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 3: I hope they feel like well dressed and well prepared

1371
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 3: and excited.

1372
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I've been act day. It's literally good

1373
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: vibes and connected to you in a way. So you're

1374
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: Alphaba right now with you. The other lead is Lencia,

1375
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: and you guys are getting a lot of press about

1376
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: having incredible chemistry on stage. Oh yeah, So what goes

1377
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,959
Speaker 1: into making sure you have good chemistry? Because I feel

1378
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: like we hear this a lot in acting, where they

1379
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: do literally like chemistry testing before casting people.

1380
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, at Wicked, they don't do that.

1381
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure they have a whole process of

1382
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 3: like determining who they think will be well matched, but

1383
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 3: they don't have you auditioned together. So when I found

1384
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 3: out Lencia Cabetta was going to be playing Alphaba, I

1385
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 3: was so thrilled because she's also our first principal Black

1386
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 3: Alphaba that we've had in Wicket on this Broadway production.

1387
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: So that's major and overdue and very very exciting. And

1388
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 3: when I found out she was still on tour with Hamilton,

1389
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 3: so I actually flew to San Francisco and saw her

1390
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 3: in Hamilton because I just wanted to like start our

1391
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 3: friendship off on a good, supportive, fun note, and I

1392
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 3: wanted to see her shine and kind of like, I

1393
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 3: don't know, just start start things as soon as I could.

1394
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 3: I was just so excited and I was blown away

1395
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 3: by her voice, by her presence. I think that people

1396
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 3: who see her in the show are going to be

1397
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 3: really just like whoa that is a woman who just

1398
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 3: stands and sings and sings the sh out of these songs.

1399
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 3: So it's been awesome.

1400
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is your pre show ritual before Glinda gets

1401
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 4: into the bubble.

1402
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 3: There's a lot that goes on before Glinda goes into

1403
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 3: the bubble. On our run we talked about like the

1404
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 3: minutes leading up to it, but there's actually a lot

1405
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: more of the ritual that goes in. So I have

1406
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: a whole vocal warm up that I do at home.

1407
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 3: My dog is my audience. He sits and watches me.

1408
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 3: He knows I'm about to leave, so he's stressed. But

1409
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 3: I sing anyway, and I have like a physical warm

1410
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 3: up that I do as well. But once I get

1411
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 3: to the theater, like I'm ready to go, I do

1412
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 3: my own makeup Glinda and Broadway does her own makeup,

1413
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 3: which is great.

1414
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 2: And then I hang out with my.

1415
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 3: Dresser, Jess, who her whole job is to make sure

1416
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 3: that my job is as easy as it can be

1417
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 3: and that my costumes look amazing on So we love

1418
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 3: Jess and I just kind of catch up with the company,

1419
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 3: and then as we get closer to showtime, I get

1420
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 3: amped up. I mean, I just like we all run

1421
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,759
Speaker 3: around like babbling little kids getting ready to do Wicked.

1422
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 3: And then yeah, in those final minutes, you get into

1423
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 3: the bubble. I'm held in there by one clip and

1424
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 3: the bubble goes up. And when you're at the top

1425
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 3: waiting for the show to start, at the top of

1426
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: the show, you can look down and there's like a

1427
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 3: little gap between curtains where you can see the front row,

1428
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 3: and I can look down at the top of the show,

1429
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 3: I can see if there are any kids in the

1430
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 3: front row, if they're in there, Glinda Best.

1431
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 2: There are a lot of kids.

1432
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 3: Coming to the show in costume these days, which is

1433
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 3: so sweet, and it kind of puts me in a

1434
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 3: space where I can have a little moment of gratitude and.

1435
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 2: Like I'll say a little prayer.

1436
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 3: I'll say a little prayer of like I hope this

1437
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 3: is a protected and great show. I mentioned there's a

1438
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 3: little poster hanging right at eye level where the bubble

1439
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 3: stops at the top and the Glinda from the previous

1440
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 3: contract will create a little break a leg. It's a

1441
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,799
Speaker 3: visual which is very, very precious. And then the show starts.

1442
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 2: The lights go.

1443
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 3: Down and we kick it off and the bubbles turn

1444
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 3: on and it's all shot out of a cannon from.

1445
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: There, lights, camera action. Yeah. Yeah.

1446
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: Because of the Wicked movie coming out, it's like a

1447
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: monumental time to be part of Wicked. You're also part

1448
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: of the twentieth anniversary, so like you're hitting all these

1449
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 1: like iconic milestones for Wicked.

1450
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 3: It's such an incredible time to be part of this show.

1451
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 3: I feel so grateful and like the fun things that

1452
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 3: have gone on behind the scenes in the years that

1453
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 3: I've been here have been like as fun as doing

1454
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 3: the show itself. I've gotten to meet and hang out

1455
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 3: with both Kristen and Idina at the twentieth anniversary.

1456
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: I've gotten to get dressed up for.

1457
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 3: Different premieres and different events to celebrate Wicked, and like,

1458
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: it's just been really special, and I'm really looking forward

1459
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 3: to what comes of this next year as we gear

1460
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 3: up for the second movie coming out, and I'm looking

1461
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 3: forward to seeing it. I loved the first movie. I

1462
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 3: wept through the whole ending, and I'm really excited to

1463
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 3: see the next. We talked about this a little bit

1464
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 3: before we sat down, But you are involved in a

1465
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 3: way in the movies, A little teeny tiny way, Yes,

1466
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 3: how you're involved. I so for the first film, part

1467
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 3: of what goes into making a movie musical involves creating

1468
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 3: demos of the music. So there was an era in

1469
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 3: like I think the summer of twenty twenty two, where

1470
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 3: the company of the Wicked movie would hire some of

1471
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 3: us from the Broadway Company to come and sing some

1472
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 3: of the demos. So I got to sing some of

1473
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 3: the Glenda material for the demos that they then used

1474
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 3: in the production of the movie. I don't really know

1475
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 3: how it all played out or what they used and

1476
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 3: didn't use, And I think that there were a lot

1477
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 3: of company members in the Broadway company that had their

1478
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 3: vocals end up in the film, So fingers crossed, maybe

1479
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 3: there was still some hope for that for the second movie,

1480
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 3: because that would be so cool and it's just fun

1481
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 3: to be able to be a part of it in

1482
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 3: any little way and to be able to just see

1483
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 3: how it gets made.

1484
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: The magic is made from behind the curtain, you know,

1485
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: it's incredible.

1486
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: And I just I love knowing how much the movie

1487
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 1: pays so much kudos and respect to like you guys

1488
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: who are performing the show every single night. But when

1489
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: you were watching it for the first time, what were

1490
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: you like so hyped to see about Arianna as Glinda, Like,

1491
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: was there one moment that you were like, she nailed that?

1492
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: Oh, there was so many moments that I thought she

1493
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 3: nailed it. Even before it was announced that she was

1494
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 3: going to be in it, when it was like rumored

1495
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 3: of who could be playing Glinda, I really thought she

1496
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 3: would be spectacular because she just has this kind of

1497
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 3: energy that lends itself to such a rich character like this,

1498
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 3: and such a beautiful, like beloved character too, So I

1499
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 3: thought I mean, I was thrilled seeing seeing her popular.

1500
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 2: I thought it was hysterical.

1501
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 3: So many of her little like isms, like her little

1502
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 3: line deliveries, both her and Cynthia and Jonathan Bailey. It

1503
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 3: was nice to get like a close up on all

1504
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 3: of these little moments that a lot of them exist

1505
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 3: in the in the Broadway show, even if their little

1506
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 3: ad lips or even if they're little, like just tiny

1507
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 3: moments in the background. But with the film, you can

1508
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 3: really zoom in and like see these little moments clearly.

1509
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 3: And so I just got such a kick out of

1510
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 3: seeing how much they you know, fleshed out the whole

1511
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 3: the whole story, and how much they paid Homash, how

1512
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,839
Speaker 3: much they respected the original source material.

1513
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: It was beautiful, and I mean I feel like too,

1514
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,440
Speaker 1: like as somebody that's a constantly performing it on stage.

1515
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: It was probably so cool for you to see how

1516
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: they imagined oz and you know, and she's like, well,

1517
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: they just built this.

1518
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 3: Whole world, Like I want to go to that theme park.

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Speaker 3: I want to go, need to visit, Like I want

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Speaker 3: to go, and we all do, we all want to go.

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Speaker 3: It looks so fun.

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Speaker 1: I loved the Wicked movie itself, of course, but My

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Speaker 1: favorite thing was Architectural Digested this video it's like a

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01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: twelve minute long video on YouTube and where they were

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01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: interviewing the guy that's was in charge of production and

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Speaker 1: he went through and obviously it's this incredible company of

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01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 1: people that work with him, but he took us through

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01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: like every single scene and every single set from the

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Speaker 1: entrance of like the toulips and how they had to

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01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,839
Speaker 1: plant like an insane amount of toolips somewhere in Europe

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01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: and they had to time everything perfectly with like when

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Speaker 1: the toolips bloom and then like what went into shiz

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01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: and that entrance scene of them on the boats and

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Speaker 1: having like it was just so crazy.

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Speaker 2: I had to watch that. Oh my god, you have

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Speaker 2: to watch that.

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Speaker 3: We just watched the trailer for the second film. It

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01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 3: was incredible, and some of us in the company at

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01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 3: the Gershwin watched it together and it got me so

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01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 3: excited because you could even see like the visuals of

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01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 3: the Tornado being filmed in in CPA, like in the

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01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 3: same tone that it was filmed in the Wizard of

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Speaker 3: Oz movie.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible.

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01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that they have taken it so

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01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 3: seriously and that they have clearly careen and loved this

1547
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 3: material so much, so I can't.

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Speaker 2: Wait to see it.

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Speaker 1: What are you most excited about for the second movie? Like,

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01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: what are you most excited to see?

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01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 3: Well, I'm really curious to see what is different from

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 3: the Broadway Show in I don't want to spoil anything,

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01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 3: but I'm curious to see how the characters transition and change.

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01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 3: And I was saying earlier, I love scary things and

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01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 3: act too. Of Wicked is like it can be kind

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01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 3: of dark. Actually, a lot of Wicked, depending on what

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01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 3: it is that you're looking for, can be like very

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01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 3: serious and heavy if you look for those themes woven

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01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 3: underneath all of the bubbles and the glitter. So I'm

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01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 3: excited to see these characters really come into their own

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01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 3: and I guess just pay the consequences of their actions

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01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 3: in the first movie, or like reap the benefits, so

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01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 3: to speak. And I think that there's probably going.

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Speaker 2: To be a lot of depth. Well I hope. I'm

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01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: excited for the depth that these characteristic going to give us.

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01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, wait, I'm curious do you know this? Like

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01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: did they film part one and Part two together?

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01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 2: So it's already filmed? Yeah? They did?

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01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 3: They filmed it all together, and then I think they're

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01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 3: doing some reshoots here and there, and I know that

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01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 3: they're still doing a couple of little musical different things.

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Speaker 2: So there's the movie's not done yet. But I am

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01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 2: not a spokesperson for the movie. I don't really know.

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01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just wondering, So I'm like, I didn't

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01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: know that, Okay, Well, we talked about so much, seriously, Ali, Like,

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01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: I just loved getting a peek behind like the curtain

1577
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 1: of you today and like learning everything about you. It's

1578
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: seriously just so cool. There's still so much more to

1579
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: uncover with you. But I'm so excited to just like

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01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: experience you as the Queenda this year on Wicked. What

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01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: are you excited about? What's coming up for you? What

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01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: do we got going on?

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01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 3: I mean mostly right now, it is just these eight

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01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 3: shows a week. It's getting through this show. We have

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01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 3: Broadway and Brian Park coming up, and a couple of

1586
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 3: different like Broadway community events that are coming up with Wicked.

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01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 3: But if anyone wants to come see the show, give

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01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 3: me a shout out. I will blow you a bubble.

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