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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Guilty of Charge Podcast, presented by the

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Speaker 2: Chargers Podcast Network. My name is Stephen and I am

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Speaker 2: the host and we have a very special show today

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Speaker 2: for you guys. Mister Shawn Sayed from.

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Speaker 1: A summer sports is going to join us.

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Speaker 2: If you're familiar with him on Twitter, you know that

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Speaker 2: he's one of the best in the business when it

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Speaker 1: Down the x's and oh's of film, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, of the of the NFL, and we're super excited

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Speaker 2: to have him on today.

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Speaker 1: Sean, thanks for taking the time to join us. Man.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing them this afternoon?

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Speaker 3: Steven, I'm doing great. Really appreciate that. Tyler means a

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Speaker 3: lot to be on. You know, we're in the that

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Speaker 3: middle period in June, but july's around the corner. We're

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Speaker 3: getting dangerously close to new football games to be watching.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're I think we're six weeks away from training camp,

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Speaker 2: which is awesome news. We're super excited about that to

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Speaker 2: us here as well, Man, Tyler, what's up?

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Speaker 1: How you doing this afternoon?

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Speaker 4: Doing very well? Thanks for saying six weeks. It feels

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Speaker 4: like forever, but thankfully I've got a wedding between now

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Speaker 4: and then, so I'll take up some of my time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just a little bit, just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I'm not in my usual setting, so apologies to

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Speaker 2: the audience if the signal and the audio is not

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Speaker 2: up to our usual standard. But out of town this week,

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Speaker 2: so you know, hopefully you guys can work with me today.

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Speaker 2: So I'm really excited to have Sean on today, specifically

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Speaker 2: to break down some film. But before we get there,

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Speaker 2: As always, Tyler and I are fans of the team,

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Speaker 2: just like you guys who are listening. We are independent

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Speaker 2: content creators, so the opinions that we express on today's

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Speaker 2: show and every show are not always reflective of the

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Speaker 2: opinions and views of the Chargers organization. So we're very

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Speaker 2: happy to be in this position, but our opinions are

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Speaker 2: our own, not.

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Speaker 1: The opinions of the team.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited to dive into this episode. So obviously,

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Speaker 2: the Chargers are transitioning from this Joe Lombardi era into

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Speaker 2: the Kellen Moore era, and Kellen and Brandon Staley have

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Speaker 2: talked a lot about like building upon the offense of

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Speaker 2: what the Chargers have been able to do throughout justin

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Speaker 2: Herbert's career, which is not necessarily you know, a foreign concept,

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Speaker 2: but we wanted to bring Sean on it's kind of outline.

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Speaker 1: How would that look?

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously you know we that we hear about

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Speaker 2: this kind of conversation about not necessarily erasing the past

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Speaker 2: two years of the Chargers football, but instead of building

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Speaker 2: upon that. There's a great article by Albert Breer from

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Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated Today talking about that. So Sean will bring

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Speaker 2: you in here before we dive into the film, just

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Speaker 2: have some general conversations here, but for you, like, what

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Speaker 2: of build upon it. What are you are some things

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, I think that is just a smart

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Speaker 3: approach as a new offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: I think now in modern football with these real, real

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Speaker 3: the plane is being built out of the quarterback. Right

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Speaker 3: your offense is it a more offense? Is it a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 3: I think that one thing for Kellen Moore, even remembering

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Speaker 3: trust me, it's still just stick on the offensive end, right,

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Speaker 3: So it's something where on the quarterbacks end it's comfort.

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Speaker 3: the formation shifts those motions combined with the unique use

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you caught the George Kittle clip

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Speaker 1: Up down the road.

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Speaker 2: Is that something that you feel like is pretty common

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Speaker 3: If you will, Yeah, I don't think that it's not

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Speaker 3: necessarily unique to offensive coordinators. I think it's it's kind

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Speaker 3: of what all the offensive coordinators want to do.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: You want to say, hey, look we're going to run

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Speaker 5: We're gonna be able to run a bootleg off it.

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Speaker 3: Right, So the idea of I want to set up

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Speaker 3: I think that Kashanan is I mean, he's really one

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Speaker 3: know in that interview, it's a great interview. Would definitely

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Speaker 3: suggests everyone watch it. He Kittle says like unlocking the defense, right,

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Speaker 5: Ways and the varied formations.

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Speaker 3: I think what I like about more in the way

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Speaker 3: to build off of things from week one to week

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Speaker 3: That's really the difference between I think so many yards

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Speaker 4: I don't know again how much you've watched from specifically

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Speaker 4: one of the things that we're looking for as Chargers

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Speaker 4: like Dak Prescott on being in versus Cooper Rush. Did

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Speaker 4: continue with what they had despite all the injuries? I

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Speaker 4: guess how is Kellen more resilient throughout all that?

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Speaker 3: I think that with Dak Prescott, who to me is

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Speaker 3: an elite processor. And when Cooper Rush came in, it's

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Speaker 3: but there were just more some of those you know,

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Speaker 3: of a good offensive coordinator. Right, There's no reason to

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Speaker 3: like we're gonna make our second string quarterback look like

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott. That is just too hard, right, It doesn't

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Speaker 3: make sense to do that, And to me, that's a

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Speaker 3: good sign for Justin Herbert because there was a lot

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Speaker 3: Dak could use that. And you know, Justin Herbert is

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Speaker 3: like a supercomputer attached to like a bazooka on his arm. Right,

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Speaker 3: So I think the Kellen Moore is gonna be able

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Speaker 3: to take some of those lessons that he learned with

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Speaker 3: Dak and supersize that right where Dak has I think

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Speaker 3: to me a really good arm, but I mean it's

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Speaker 3: it's a sign to me that Kellen Moore understands, you know,

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Speaker 5: Gonna be an interesting thing.

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Speaker 3: I think Moore really like to use, you know, more

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Speaker 2: I'm super excited to see what you have put together here.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate that so definitely.

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Speaker 3: You know, one concept that is one hundred percent going

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Speaker 3: Well, the different ways that you get to it shows

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Speaker 3: We're running our same exact concept, right, We just went

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Speaker 4: Though I believe this is just twenty twenty one, they

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Speaker 3: outside release. We really sometimes teams will run it with

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Speaker 3: kind of an alert post where it's like, if you

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Speaker 3: love it, you take it, or if it's a cover

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Speaker 3: four look, we know we're gonna take that.

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Speaker 5: But a lot of times this is a runoff. This

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Speaker 5: isn't something that's thrown a lot.

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Speaker 3: The money route really is gonna be for number two

446
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Speaker 3: here in this look, the Cowboys have, you know, their

447
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Speaker 3: best receiver. They're really running at ten and out. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: people round it a little bit. Sometimes it depends on

449
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Speaker 3: mannerzone coverage. I think people often think of sale as

450
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Speaker 3: a flood concepts or having a third layer, and we'll

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Speaker 3: kind of talk about that through drive. Drive is a

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Speaker 3: lot of times a backside concept sometimes you know, it's

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Speaker 3: a concept in and of its own, but usually run

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Speaker 3: from a more condensed look. So to the top of

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Speaker 3: screen here you can see the receiver and the tight end.

456
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Speaker 3: Condensed receiver is gonna go first run that shallow cross

457
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Speaker 3: and then our tight end really maybe get a little

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Speaker 3: bit or rub with the shallow cross and just running

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Speaker 3: the kind of basic in route. So we see that

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Speaker 3: from the bottom of the screen. Maybe you're alert vertical

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Speaker 3: if you count that as your first read, you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe it's not part of your read. That real money

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Speaker 3: route is going to be the sail route. That ten

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Speaker 3: yard out we're going to read to that shallow cross

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Speaker 3: as are either two or three depending how you count it.

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Speaker 3: Get back to that basic in route, and then maybe

467
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Speaker 3: we check it down to the running back if we

468
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Speaker 3: can get through the whole entire progression. So I like

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Speaker 3: sale drive because it creates triangles in the offense and

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Speaker 3: it makes the defense cover more ground and a quarterback

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Speaker 3: can really work linearly left to right in this example right,

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Speaker 3: So a pure progression read where you can go, You know,

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Speaker 3: am I getting the outside vertical? Am I going to

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Speaker 3: the sail shallow cross? Drive back into the backfield as

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Speaker 3: opposed to forcing a quarterback to say, okay, I need

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Speaker 3: to you know, stam my head to the left to

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Speaker 3: feel where the safety is coming from. Then I have

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Speaker 3: to get kind of my leverage on the right side.

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Speaker 3: It allows a quarterback and Herbert is so so good

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Speaker 3: at this going through the full progression. You know, if

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Speaker 3: you have to get to your checkdown, and you get

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Speaker 3: to your checkdown. So we'll watch this clip here again.

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Speaker 3: You're going to see that sale concept to the bottom

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Speaker 3: drive coming to the top. You know, that's a throw

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Speaker 3: that I think that you've seen justin Herbert make and

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Speaker 3: you'll see him make right here, right. So this is

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Speaker 3: the Charges using it. I think you guys mentioned a

488
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Speaker 3: great point. The Chargers were a team that really did, like,

489
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Speaker 3: you know, condensed sets. One thing about running sale drive

490
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Speaker 3: at a condensed set, you know, you can play with

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Speaker 3: the leverages a little bit differently with your receivers, whether

492
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Speaker 3: you want to get inside a guy, you want to

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Speaker 3: get outside a guy to the bottom of the screen.

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Speaker 3: We'll see the sale part, you know, Keenan Allen, we

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Speaker 3: love to see Keenan Allen shake. We'll get a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a delay from the tight end on the

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Speaker 3: shallow cross thing. He's just picking up a little bit

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Speaker 3: of the defensive rush. But a good example of hey,

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Speaker 3: this is a concept that you know, Kellen Moore runs,

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Speaker 3: Kellen Moore likes, and now this is us seeing the

501
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Speaker 3: same thing with the chargers, right, So it's not that

502
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Speaker 3: anyone's reinventing offense, but we're taking things that the charges

503
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Speaker 3: already did, that Kellen Moore also did, and now we're

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Speaker 3: going to make him a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: So this is something one thing I like that Joelen

507
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Speaker 3: Bardi did do is a little bit of a change

508
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Speaker 3: here the concept to the bottom of the screen. Instead

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Speaker 3: of running sale, we're going to have a tenure and

510
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Speaker 3: then a corner route from number two. We're still gonna

511
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Speaker 3: be running our drive concept to the top. So what's

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Speaker 3: cool about this to me is it takes advantage of

513
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Speaker 3: justin Herbert's arm, right, you know, it's it's something that

514
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Speaker 3: it's smart to take advantage of your extremely talented players.

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Speaker 3: So in this clip we're gonna play through it. You'll

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Speaker 3: see it's gonna be a little bit it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a rollout, right. It's not something that you know you

518
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Speaker 3: want to bank your whole entire offense on this. But

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Speaker 3: you can see Justin Herbert make these throws over and

520
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Speaker 3: over and so in this example where you know, twenty

521
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Speaker 3: three on the defense in that kind of nickel spot

522
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Speaker 3: has good leverage. You know, Justin Herberts throws just have

523
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Speaker 3: a tendency not to you know, follow the rules of physics.

524
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Speaker 3: So if you can throw where you know, safety feels

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Speaker 3: like they have leverage, or nickel cornerback feels like they

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Speaker 3: have leverage, but the ball is just zooming past you,

527
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Speaker 3: you know, that's something that's gonna lead to what you'll

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Speaker 3: see at the bottom of the screen here right, all

529
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Speaker 3: these chargers fans with their hands up. So to me

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Speaker 3: a good example there, you know, seale drive and then

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Speaker 3: taking it to another you know that out pylon or

532
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Speaker 3: out corner concept, whatever you want to call it. That

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Speaker 3: Kellen Moore can take somebody that Hrber does so well

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Speaker 3: and be able to continue to use that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think he talked about that with Albert Brier and

537
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Speaker 2: just kind of being able to push the boundary a

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Speaker 2: little bit more. And I think this is a great

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Speaker 2: way for us to visualize what that can look like

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Speaker 2: because so many of us have like the twenty twenty

541
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Speaker 2: two offense, like you know, in our brains, right, but

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Speaker 2: if you go back to twenty twenty one, we see

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Speaker 2: some similar concepts that the Charges were running at least,

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Speaker 2: you know, at a semi frequent basis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that when you have the quarterback

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Speaker 3: that talented, right, build a plane out of him. But

547
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Speaker 3: at the same time, you know, you do want to

548
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Speaker 3: find your balance in that every single game, every single play,

549
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Speaker 3: can't just depend on their arm, right, So I think

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Speaker 3: something that was interesting The Cowboys seemed like they you know,

551
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Speaker 3: didn't use.

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Speaker 5: A ton of play are.

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Speaker 3: They obviously use play action in RPOs, but their percentages

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Speaker 3: were a bit lower than the Chargers, So maybe i'd

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Speaker 3: expect that to kind of push towards the middle. And

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Speaker 3: one of those concepts that I love that I think

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Speaker 3: it's important to talk about this one because it's so

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Speaker 3: ubiquitous in the entire league. The drift concept. You know,

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Speaker 3: drift is a route and then kind of part of

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Speaker 3: a concept. But we're gonna see here, drift is a

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Speaker 3: you know, it's usually a twelve, you know, eleven personnel.

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Speaker 3: Look where you're running play action, right, a lot of

563
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Speaker 3: times you're getting this kind of cover three one high

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Speaker 3: look because you've enticed the defense into playing a run defense.

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Speaker 5: Route wise, you know the drift route.

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Speaker 3: A lot of times it's run from the condensed set,

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Speaker 3: because when your receiver is condensed, it makes a cornerback

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Speaker 3: almost always play outside leverage.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to just get beat outside and up

571
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Speaker 3: the field. There's so much grass out there, so we're

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Speaker 3: just gonna take a little outside stem, get in the

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Speaker 3: cornerback's pocket and cut in. They're gonna run this with

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Speaker 3: what I call a swirl what the Shannon system will

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Speaker 3: call a swirl route. Really just say in a corner stop.

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Speaker 3: It's a good way you read it, drift to swirl.

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Speaker 3: So maybe something in the flat if you need to

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Speaker 3: check it down. And what's great about drift is it

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Speaker 3: plays on really human instincts here, right, you see these

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Speaker 3: linebackers chasing the run fig because you know that in

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Speaker 3: a lot of ways is their job. Right, if you

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Speaker 3: present them something, give them some candy, you want them

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Speaker 3: to take that and open up this huge void of

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Speaker 3: space for that throw.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a concept that you see so much

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Speaker 3: like the Shannon system just absolutely eats off of it.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can run your jet fake away from

589
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Speaker 3: your zone. You just give the linebackers more to look at. Here,

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Speaker 3: you'll see the drift route to the bottom gets kind

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Speaker 3: of jammed up in man coverage. You know, you have

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Speaker 3: that big body receiver up top. You can hit that

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Speaker 3: swell route. So it's something that Herbert has run, and

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Speaker 3: you know the Cowboys use it too. Here you're gonna

595
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Speaker 3: see the drift route to the bottom out of just

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Speaker 3: a little bit different look, but just another great example, right.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure chargers stands just get happy keep on seeing

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Speaker 3: eighty eight running in an open space. But then there's

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Speaker 3: the kelen More twist on it, right, you know, more

600
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Speaker 3: like really really does like heavy personnel. I think this

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Speaker 3: example is a good one because it's gonna be a

602
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Speaker 3: set where you know you have two tight ends plus

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Speaker 3: a lineman as a fullback. You know, is that you

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Speaker 3: know your six linemen two actually tight ends there. That's

605
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Speaker 3: like the definition of a heavy set and that really

606
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Speaker 3: forces the defense.

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Speaker 5: Okay, are we.

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Speaker 3: Gonna get a run to the bottom here and this

609
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Speaker 3: look you're gonna see to the top of the screen.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna actually send a blitz from the cornerback off

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Speaker 3: the edge. It's gonna make it really really easy for

612
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Speaker 3: that drift route to just get an open space, and

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Speaker 3: the swore route is going to come from the tied

614
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Speaker 3: end instead. Right, So where we saw drift scroll previously

615
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Speaker 3: coming from not a spread out set, but the kind

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Speaker 3: of two receiver set, we're running the same concept from

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Speaker 3: a much heavier look, a much more you know run

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Speaker 3: entice look, and then we're out open space. So to me,

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Speaker 3: just you know, stick, sail, drive, drift, those are really core, core,

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Speaker 3: core concepts that I'm pretty sure that we're going to

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Speaker 3: be able to see but understanding, Okay, if we take

622
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Speaker 3: the same concepts, we use them out of different formations,

623
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Speaker 3: we take advantage of the defense by using tempo, and

624
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Speaker 3: then we run those same concepts just with different players.

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Speaker 3: That I think is really what Chargers fans have to

626
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Speaker 3: look forward to with Kellen Moore, And I think that's

627
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Speaker 3: really just such a big reason why, you know, I'm

628
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Speaker 3: excited to watch the Chargers and really see how the

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Speaker 3: different ways that justin Herbert is going to be able

630
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Speaker 3: to be unlocked and see that kind of just meshing

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Speaker 3: together of More and Herbert.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know for me, Like when I went back

633
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Speaker 2: and watched some Cowboys tape after they hired Kellen Moore,

634
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Speaker 2: I was I was just kind of almost starstruck of

635
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Speaker 2: like the different kind of personnel packages that I was seeing.

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Speaker 2: You know, Like the first game I watched was the

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay playoff game from this past year, the wild

638
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Speaker 2: Card game, and it's like the first ten plays, it

639
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Speaker 2: was like ten different personnel packages, ten different formations, right,

640
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Speaker 2: but it was probably like the same two or three plays,

641
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Speaker 2: two or three concepts, like you're kind of outlining here.

642
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Speaker 2: So just being able to visualize how Kellen could come

643
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: out with, you know, a jumble package with six offensive linemen,

644
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: two tight ends and use the same kind of concept

645
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: as he does with a four x one set or

646
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Speaker 2: something like that, I think is super useful to be

647
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Speaker 2: able to see the kind of changes that we could

648
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Speaker 2: be looking at with Kellen Morris offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: I love that, you know, you bring up that game

650
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Speaker 3: because the way that offensive coordinators, I think sometimes will

651
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Speaker 3: put their script, whether it's the first ten plays, first

652
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Speaker 3: fifteen plays, is like We're going to throw so many

653
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Speaker 3: different formations at you, and it's not just to confuse you.

654
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 3: Of course, that can be something. But every single time

655
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Speaker 3: you line up as an offense, you are gaining some

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00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: information from the defense.

657
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: Right.

658
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: If it's hey, we're gonna get into our super jumbo set, Well,

659
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: how did the defense respond?

660
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: Right?

661
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: You know, we take our picture, we look at our

662
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: tablet on the sideline, We see that they lined up,

663
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 3: you know, with extra people to the tight ends.

664
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 5: We're gonna go run away from it.

665
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: Right, if we're in our super empty set where it's

666
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: four by one, or even if it's just empty three

667
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 3: by two, we can kind of narrow down. Well, this

668
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: is what we're pretty sure that their checks this week

669
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 3: are going to be.

670
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 5: Right.

671
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: So, wheen we talk about Kyle Shanahan on locking all offenses,

672
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: when offensive coordinators just it looks like maybe they're throwing

673
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 3: different stuff at the wall, just remember they're gaining information

674
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: every single time, Right, every single time a defense lines

675
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: up an offensive coordinator, they may take a snapshot in

676
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: their head, but they're gonna get that physical snapshot too.

677
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: Looking back at the tablet and see, well, now we

678
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 3: know next time we run out this formation, if we're

679
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: we can change our script. We can keep on hitting

680
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: that play over and over the gain yards.

681
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 4: I can't wait to rationalize every minus four yards play

682
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 4: by saying, yeah, they're learning something about the defense of

683
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: this instance. How did Kellen Moore generally handle either tempo

684
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: or like two minute drill or even like if they're

685
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: a big chunk play and that play is about to

686
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 4: get reviewed, but they got to get up there and

687
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 4: run something like I feel like with the chargers, and

688
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: it could be wrong. It was always stick or some

689
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 4: run that didn't go for much or something that was

690
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: not very successful. How did Kellen Moore handle those instances?

691
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, in those situations, I think it's important to remember,

692
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: right if you're if you're just killing a play pretty

693
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: much like you know, there's there's a lot to be

694
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: gained there, right. I think what I liked about more

695
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: and tempo is like to a lot of us, right tempo.

696
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 5: It's just fast, fast, fast, fast fast.

697
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 3: And there were drives where they would just go, know

698
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 3: a huddle, they would have their kind of you know,

699
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: six or eight prepackaged plays, We're going to go and

700
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: run this. But I think he really understands, how do

701
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 3: you know have a curve ball and not just running

702
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: this fastball where it's that up tempo, but understanding, look,

703
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: we need to slow things down, not just in a

704
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: time killing situation, but you know it's things like dummy

705
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: calls or it's like Dak is pretending to check things

706
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: like six and seven times, where it's like not that

707
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: we're collecting information, but we're just making the defense a

708
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: little uneasier. Right, Like those guys are you know, holding

709
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: their fists hard, really trying to make a play and something.

710
00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 5: I like that.

711
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: More data to tempo, third and one, fourth and one.

712
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 3: A lot of times you'll see them gets a lot

713
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: really really quick run a roll like just a roll

714
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: out quick past the running back you know already has

715
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: the ball in their hands. They're two to three hours

716
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: down the field. It's first down. You'll see it. Against

717
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: the Eagles is one really good example where you know,

718
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: like a team that's obviously very good and obviously well coached,

719
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: is you're having examples of you know, Kellen Moore kind

720
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: of playing with them in different ways where tempo not

721
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: just really being really fast, but understanding of you know,

722
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: tempo is also just about change of tempo and the

723
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: different ways that you use it are going to make

724
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: the defense a little more uneasy.

725
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of what we're talking about

726
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: is making the Chargers offense more versatile and less stagnant,

727
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: and I think that was one of the bigger problems

728
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: last year. One of my bigger curiosities in general is

729
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: how Kellen Moore is going to use Austin Eckler, because

730
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler was.

731
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: A lot of checkdowns last year.

732
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: What would your what would your kind of assumption be

733
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: of how we can maybe look at Austin Eckler's usage

734
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three with Kellen Moore.

735
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm you know, I'm really glad that Austin Eckler

736
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: is back with the Chargers. I think he's it's going

737
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: to be an exciting time for him. And you know,

738
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't consider him, Hey, he's just Tony Pollard, right.

739
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: I think that's a disservice to Eckler's really abilities right

740
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: where I think that last year he was really where

741
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: he would be running probably more zone runs. I think

742
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: this year they're going to be a little more gap scheme,

743
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: just because that's, you know, what I think Moore's identity is.

744
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: So it may just be, you know, it is a

745
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: more physical, down in your face kind of thing. And

746
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: you know, there were times where I think the Cowboys

747
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: knew that. You know, I think about the Vikings example

748
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: from four by one, where it's, hey, we know that

749
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: we're unlocking the defense because the linebackers have to communicate

750
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: into our running back getting into the flat where I

751
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: think some people may criticize, oh well, Kelli mart Sometimes

752
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: Liam gets too cute where it seems like it's a

753
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: gadget play, where it's really highlighting, Okay, we have a

754
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: running back that can get out of the backfield, and you know,

755
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: you see Tony Pollard run wheel routes. I think that

756
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: Eckler will be able to run maybe even just a

757
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: more diverse route tree. I think that he can run

758
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: the choice route. I'm excited for that, but I would

759
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: you know, obviously, no, we're all hoping to see Austin

760
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: Eckler run down the field wide open on a wheel

761
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: route for a touchdown. But I think that is something

762
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: that Moore has in mind. Where I mean, Ethla has

763
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: a really unique skill set, right, you know, he can

764
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: run really well and he can catch really well. So

765
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: I think that it's not just going to be you know,

766
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: check down Charlie. That's what he's going to get his yards.

767
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: I think he's there's going to be times where he

768
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: is really you know, the main part of the concept.

769
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: I think that that is smart because you know, you

770
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: want to use your best offensive weapons in the best ways.

771
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, one of the questions I do have about

772
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: this roster, Like Eckler I feel good about regardless of

773
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 4: who the coordinator is, I'm not so sure about the

774
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: tight end group, and I think and maybe even the

775
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: fallback as well. I do feel like there are good

776
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: players in here, but they haven't really answered the question

777
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: of like who's going to be the main blocker, who's

778
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: going to be the better blocker, or if they do

779
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: know who that is, can they stay healthy and that

780
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: sort of thing. So can Kellen Moore? I really do

781
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: not know about the blocking unit of the Chargers when

782
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: it comes to tight ends in the fallback. Can Kellen

783
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 4: Moore succeed in all these concepts are what you've seen.

784
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: If the tight ends are having uses with blocking, let's say, yeah,

785
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: you know, I.

786
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: Think that is like when I was kind of going

787
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: through this and you keep on seeing Kellen Moore throw

788
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: tight end tight end out there, and then you know,

789
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: you you look at the Charges roster and it's like, well, look,

790
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: they have different bodies, right, So I do I do

791
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: trust Kellen Moore because you know, whether it's an example

792
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: where it's, hey, the Cowboys don't have you know, a

793
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: healthy fullback, he puts a lineman in there, right, So

794
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: maybe there's not the example of well, we have two

795
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: really good pass catching tight ends, how do we get

796
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: into a run blocking way, Whether it's you know, more

797
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: like he used a six offensive lineman, you know, if hopefully,

798
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: you know, the Chargers got a deep offensive line room,

799
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: I think those guys may have to, you know, learn

800
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: a little bit more in the playbook this year. I

801
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: know that we're all happy that the Chargers get that

802
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: left tackle back healthy this year. But I do think

803
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: that Calim Moore understands how to problem solve and I

804
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: think that he's not going to be too proud if

805
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: it's a tight end that you know, they're more of

806
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: a pass catcher than a run blocker and it's just

807
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: not working against you know, some of the stud defensive

808
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: ends that the Charges are going to go against can't

809
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: give you an exact answer, Well, this is how they're

810
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: going to solve the problem. But you know, maybe it's

811
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: a sixth offensive lineman, right, you know, maybe it's an

812
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: offensive lineman that you know, gets back into the fullback

813
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: area sometimes. And seeing the Cowboys do that that same

814
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: thing where you have a really really big bodied fullback,

815
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: maybe that's one of the ways that they kind of

816
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: problem solve it. But same time, I think that the

817
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: way that Kellen Moore really had an aggressive down the

818
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: field passing offense. You know, look, if you're scoring twenty,

819
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: you know, thirty points, sometimes it doesn't matter how you're

820
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: running the right, whether it's it's setting it up one

821
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: way or the other. I think that Herbert's gonna, you know,

822
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: make More's life easier in a lot of different ways.

823
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: So I do hope that we see, you know, creative

824
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: ways to solve the problems. But I don't see More

825
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: just you know, banging his head against the wall trying

826
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: to say, hey, you know, we need to really establish

827
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: this run and get a few yards here and there.

828
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: Well, if you ask Mike McCarthy, points are bad because

829
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: he wants time of possession ins set of points.

830
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: So I love that quote.

831
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: My last question here, I guess it is just kind

832
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: of based off of Justin Herbert and what you've seen

833
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: from him going back and watching these two years. How

834
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: much more of a ceiling do you think he has

835
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: with a guy like Kellen Moore in in this unit, right,

836
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: as opposed to somebody who's maybe kind of restricting him,

837
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: you know previously.

838
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: That's I mean, you hope that the ceiling is never

839
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: even there, right, You hope that Herbert can keep on climbing.

840
00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 5: He's had.

841
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: He's just shown so much that it's hard for anyone

842
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: really to say, oh, you know, we've seen the best,

843
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 3: we've seen the best, and you might be unfortunate if

844
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: we have seen the best. But I think that there's

845
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: going to be It's it's me really saying the opposite things, right.

846
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: I think that More is going to do things that

847
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: make life easier for Herbert, But at the same time,

848
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 3: there's gonna be things where More puts more on his plate.

849
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: And so I think unfortunately, sometimes for the highest, highest level,

850
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of the times, the best best quarterbacks,

851
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: a lot of that gets accessed on like on their

852
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 3: own right, It's not based on the play call. You know,

853
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: obviously offensive corner puts them in the best position, but

854
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: whether it's the quarterback understanding, you know how they get

855
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 3: out of the pocket, and you know, Herbert has such

856
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: exceptional pocket management. So I hope that he hasn't reached

857
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: his ceiling just because it's so much fun. But I

858
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: think it's going to be a really really interesting thing.

859
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: Where I said, some things are going to be easier

860
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: and some things are going to be harder, but they're

861
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: going to be better because Herbert can do those things

862
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: that are harder. Right, Like the offense that Justin Herbert

863
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: can run, You're not gonna be able to run it

864
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: with every single different quarterback because not everyone has that arm, right,

865
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: But I think the things that Dak Prescott did as

866
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: as a process and that Justin Herbert can combine with

867
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: that with just just an absolute rocket, it's gonna be

868
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 3: It's gonna be super fun.

869
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 5: It is definitely gonna be super fun to see.

870
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: Man, I'm really gonna predict seventeen or No? Aren't I

871
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Speaker 4: like this much? I'm looking at this offense when you

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Speaker 4: break down the way you answer the questions to talk

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Speaker 4: about it, it's like, how could he not be excited

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Speaker 4: about this team?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know the offseason, right, everyone thinks their team's gonna

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Speaker 3: go to the Super Bowl, and.

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Speaker 5: You know it's it's even me.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not gonna pretend that I'm the biggest

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Speaker 3: ch a Chargers fan, but I got my powder Blues

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Speaker 3: on today.

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Speaker 5: Of course.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's hard not to be excited about Justin

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Speaker 3: Herbert in a new offense. You know, some of those

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Speaker 3: guys coming back to this team. It's I think it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be fun. I think it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we know, we feel very confident about the offense

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Speaker 2: in side.

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Speaker 1: Of things defense TVD.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Shawn, we love to have you on

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Speaker 2: back at some point maybe talk about the defense if

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Speaker 2: you're willing to, because this has been awesome and I

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Speaker 2: know I've learned a lot. I'm sure our listeners have

894
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Speaker 2: learned a lot as well. So in terms of summer

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Speaker 2: sports man, what do you guys have coming down the

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Speaker 2: rest of the off season. Where can Chargers fans find

897
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Speaker 2: on your work and all that good stuff?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate that so much, Steven, So, you know,

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Speaker 3: smer sports just at suomer sports on Twitter summer with

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Speaker 3: that and m I think something that I've really really

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Speaker 3: loved about Suomer is one of the tools that we

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Speaker 3: have for teams. You know, it's it's making a GM's

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Speaker 3: life easier, right. I think you know our CEOs Thomas Demetrov,

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Speaker 3: who has some Super Bowl rings, and just hearing the

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Speaker 3: stories and understanding, you know, like I'm not going to

906
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Speaker 3: pretend like I do backseat GM, right, you know, whenever

907
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Speaker 3: a decision has made, I pretend that I can make

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Speaker 3: it better. There's so many tasks on the GM's plates.

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Speaker 3: So whether it's things you know, when is the player

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Speaker 3: going to be available at the draft? Those things on

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Speaker 3: the team side, and then you know, the public side. Definitely,

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Speaker 3: you know, follow us along on suomer sports dot com.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be putting out you know, scheme articles this year.

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Speaker 3: We got a lot of really really smart data people

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Speaker 3: that I think are gonna help people understand the game better.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have more fun watching the game, you know,

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Speaker 3: do a little bit better maybe in their fantasy football leagues.

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Speaker 5: But definitely give us a follow.

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Speaker 3: I'm been really really happy to be at the company,

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Speaker 3: and I think you guys are all gonna like it too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I cannot recommend following Sean Enough at sied Schemes on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: He'll be posting clips like he does every year, all

924
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Speaker 2: throughout the off season and during the season. One of

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Speaker 2: my favorite persons to follow on Twitter. Genuinely and sincerely

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Speaker 2: mean that and I can't thank you for joining us

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Speaker 2: enough today. So yeah, that's gonna do it for us today, guys,

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Speaker 2: appreciate everybody for tuning in. We will be able. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back next week for another another front show. In

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Speaker 2: the meantime, make sure and subscribe to the Charters channel

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Speaker 2: and go through a subscription over on our channel the

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Speaker 2: Guilty of Charge podcast as well. That's gonna do it

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Speaker 2: for us. As always, Well up,