1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. We'll meet you at Oilcome 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansons. I come to the main room 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Roosevelt, great Colleen Wolf. 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Well Gang, it disturbs my slumber. Here we are here, 6 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: we are now, I guess what are we about? Ten 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: days out from Super Bowl Sunday. And also the last 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: time you heard from us, of course, that was under 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: extremely trying circumstances in the in the wake of West's passing, 10 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: and we all took some time obviously to digest everything 11 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: that had happened. And I, for one, I'm feeling better 12 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: having that time away from the mic and everything. Uh. 13 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: And now here we are again, Greg doing doing our show, 14 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: because that's what we do. Even if you know, without West, 15 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: it's never gonna be quite the same ever again, no won't, 16 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: but it is what we do. I feel it was 17 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: what we do did during Super Bowl week. You know, 18 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: there's like that expression tweeting, you know, tweeting through it. 19 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: It's like we were podcasting through it. So that was 20 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: a lot um. That was obviously the toughest week we 21 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: we've ever had as a podcast. Um, but we appreciate 22 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: everyone reaching out about what that that West pod meant 23 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: to them because it was definitely you know, for the 24 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: listeners too, because we know you guys are hurting, um 25 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: that that we're listening and it's like we're all we're 26 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: all going through it together. It's all different, but there's 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: no what mark you said this, there's no roadmap for this, 28 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: so we're we're figuring out as we go, and it's 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: good to have. It's good to have Connie Fox member 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: of the family this today too. It's good to be here. 31 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: It's been really weird these last two weeks. I m asked, 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: who disturbed my slumber because I've just been sleeping a 33 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: lot um and taking nature walks. So good, good, good solution. 34 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, it's a super Bowl was super 35 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: weird and um, it doesn't even feel like it really happened, 36 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: to be honest, like even even thinking about like those 37 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: the Saturday and the Sunday and Tampa were just like 38 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: such a surreal blur and I feel like they were 39 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: probably it was like probably the hardest weekend maybe of 40 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: like maybe of my life, definitely of my career, like it, 41 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: and they both coincided. They both like just kind of 42 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: overlapped so much. So it's been it's been really weird. 43 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: But um here listening to the podcast that you guys did, 44 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: it took me a couple of days. I wasn't sure 45 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: if I wanted to even do it, or if I 46 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: could really do it, or what it was going to 47 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: be like. But so many of the listeners talked about 48 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: how great it was and how it was just so 49 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: nice to hear you guys talk about West, and when 50 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: I listened, it was so comforting and it was honestly 51 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: exactly what I needed. I laughed, I cried. I was 52 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: like when when Cessler was talking about the I An 53 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Eagle story, Just like, there were so many things, the 54 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: real punches when you punched some Walt in the stomach. 55 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: I mean there there were just so many memories that 56 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: came rushing back that made me laugh and smile, and 57 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: it was it was really great. I mean, in West's memory, 58 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: it should be said that it was Mark that was 59 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: punching people, not Lest According to according to Zumwalt, who 60 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: chimed in later, I punched him in the face, not 61 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: the stomach, which is uh um problematic. But I but 62 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: I would I would say also Connie, like um for 63 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: you to say what you did, um that morning before 64 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: the aim. I mean, I know that was incredibly challenging. 65 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: I think that we were all um from a professional 66 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: covering football angle, um stretched. I don't know what the 67 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: word is that day to do something that I don't 68 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: think that we knew we could we could do going 69 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: in but um, in the days since, like I've I've 70 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: I we all have to do it differently, and I'm 71 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: closer to the nature walks um. Not that I've taken 72 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: a lot, but I've just spent it in deep isolation 73 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: a lot and thinking so much about West but kind 74 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: of feeling um these like energy pulses of his friendship 75 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: and these memories and just going through old podcasts and 76 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: like they brought me some comfort. And I know also 77 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: that this isn't just about us, Um. There's such a 78 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: community attached to this that it's been a completely different 79 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: experience for all of us, I think than any sort 80 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 1: of loss we've suffered of a person a close friend. 81 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: And so UM, You're right, Greg, I don't know what 82 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: the roadmap is. I mean, there certainly isn't one, but 83 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: I do feel that it feels right to get back 84 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: together and continue to do what it is that we've 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: done since the minute we were all together with West. Yeah, 86 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: and you and you nailed it there with the word community. 87 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: And you know, West passed away Friday afternoon before the 88 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, which was extraordinary in terms of, you know, 89 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: the timing of it, um obviously, and we wrestled with 90 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: whether or not to do any type of show on 91 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: Sunday night before landing on doing you know, just a 92 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: conversation essentially about West and a big part of that 93 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: the reasoning, as hard as it was, and it was 94 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: not necessarily something that we uh felt like we wanted 95 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: to do, but there was this community that's built up 96 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: over um seven years of podcasting people who and we've 97 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: heard it and it's really an honor um. It's not 98 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: a humble brag, but we've heard it from thousands of people, 99 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: both on social media and when we've gone to different 100 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: live shows, whether it's here in the States or over 101 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: in London, how people said that they view us as 102 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: friends that were like people that they relate to, and 103 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: it's and that's part of the reason why they liked 104 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: the show. So we knew when the news was gonna 105 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: go out there that West was gone that um, it 106 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: didn't feel right to leave you the listeners hanging um. 107 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, for me, this whole this past 108 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: week and a half is and that's awesome, Um, listening 109 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: to old shows and watching old shows. Mark, I guess 110 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: I'm not there yet, Like I It just that I 111 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: think that's part of processing for me, like that he's 112 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: not here anymore, is watching him and and I think 113 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: I'd like to get to that point. And I'm sure 114 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: I will will be able to listen and watch the 115 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: shows of us all together. And Mark, you texted right 116 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: before we started, like one of the things that's gone 117 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: from the show forever is his laugh. Like West's laugh 118 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: was infectious and it was part of like the soundtrack 119 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: of of this show, um, and the energy of this show. 120 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: So it's it's hard for me to like get to 121 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: that point to hear him again, but I will because 122 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: that's what we do have. That's what's left behind these 123 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of hours of us to get there, 124 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: and to me, like so much was taken from West, 125 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: um cruelly and dying as young as he did. And 126 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: for me, the number one thing that hit me personally 127 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: is being a father was taken from him UH to 128 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: LINK and being able to raise link with Lakisha and UM. 129 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: For me, I kind of just disappeared off social media, 130 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: from texting, phone calls and just spent a lot of 131 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: time with my family and my boys Jack and Harrison 132 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: and and I did feel closer to them because I 133 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: know what I get to have and what we all 134 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: get to have UM UM Mark and Greg is that 135 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: bond and that was what was denied West, which was 136 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: just so unfair. And I feel like that to me 137 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: help being around the boys. And we went up to 138 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: Big Bear Mountain this weekend with my friend Bob and 139 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: his family and that was and that was nice. So UM, 140 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: That's kind of where I'm at person There is this 141 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: one thing that we've each sort of pointed out, and 142 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: I think we all realized it in different ways that 143 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: UM link does have one special thing and we'll we'll 144 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: go through the machinations to make sure all of these 145 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: episodes UM remain there indelibly. But you know, I, I 146 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: can think of people that have lost to parents and 147 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: you don't have much more than a couple of photographs 148 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: or UM maybe you know, leftover voicemails. But Link will 149 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: have no question about the personality of his father because 150 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: it's not just his takes on football. I mean, when 151 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: I think about our show, it's like West going absolutely 152 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: off on subject x um or like the video we 153 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: saw of him, you know, unfurling, like a forty five 154 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: minute rant on the size of of um paper towels. 155 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, these things are out there, and there's gonna 156 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: just be like a lot in time for Link to 157 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: dig into and realize how special is Dad with It's 158 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: so nice that we that we have Link selfishly because 159 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: it's like a link to West Um and Greg came 160 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: over a few days ago, sat basically in this tree 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: that's behind me, uh and and we we talked about, 162 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, just just Wes and and how just how 163 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: much he meant to so many people in so many 164 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: different ways. And and for me last week it was 165 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: just reading through all of the listeners comments on things 166 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: because I didn't really get a chance to to kind 167 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: of process any of it when I was in Tampa. 168 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: It was like deep compartmentalizing everything um. And then once 169 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: I got home, I kind of just like poured through 170 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: every single comment of and of anything I could find. 171 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: I was going through deep rabbit holes on all of 172 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: your social, on all of my social, like every anything 173 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: that I could find, because like in that moment, it 174 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: just brought me so much comfort. And I do there 175 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: were a lot of people that um responded to what 176 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: I had to say on Super Bowl Sunday with well, 177 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: I don't know why she had to go rogue or why, 178 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: like you know, it was off script, why they wouldn't 179 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: give her the opportunity to talk about West, and I 180 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I should say that they did, and 181 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: they they wanted me to say something about West, and 182 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: they asked me that morning on Super Bowl Sunday, And 183 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: as soon as they asked me, I was like, there's 184 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: there's no way I can even imagine figuring out how 185 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: to put any of this into words, how to articulate 186 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: like what West meant to us just personally at the 187 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: network in general. And then all day that whole day 188 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: when I was doing the show, I kept thinking, all right, 189 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, Let me do it, and then 190 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: I would start thinking about West and I would immediately 191 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: start welling up and crying, and I'm like, Okay, not 192 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: doing it, not gonna do it, it's not happening. And 193 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: I was literally deciding up until like seconds before I 194 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: did it, and it was I feel like it was 195 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: one of those moments where I just completely blacked out 196 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: and I wasn't sure if I made complete sentences or what. 197 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: And then you know, in in retrospect, I'm like, I 198 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: can't believe I didn't take more time and say more 199 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: about him, because like he was just such an amazing 200 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: special person, and go, I I even you know, as 201 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: part of my I guess grieving process, I of course 202 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: started going through old text messages and like the one 203 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: thing that really there was a bunch of things that 204 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: really like stood out to me. Um, how many times 205 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: West would text me to say like how proud he 206 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: was me, Okay, no I'm crying, I'm gonna want to cry. 207 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna do it. But 208 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: he was always just like so supportive. And that was 209 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: the thing, Like when I was listening to the podcast 210 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: and when Mark he were talking about how it was 211 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: like so incredible when you would get approval from West 212 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: on football stuff, and I was like, oh my god, 213 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: like I feel so seen because when I first came 214 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: to the network. I didn't know what I was doing. 215 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: I was like swimming and I had no friends, and 216 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: you guys were my first friends when I came to 217 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: l A. And I remember just trying to find my 218 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: and the few times, the first few times when I 219 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: would do any of these segments or or you know 220 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: NFL Now when it was NFL now, or this podcast 221 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: with West and he would agree with me, it was 222 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: like my confidence just grew so much and I was like, 223 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: oh my god, yes, you know what, I can do this, 224 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: and I will go say this exact same thing to 225 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: someone else and feel good about it because West thinks 226 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: it was right, so yes, and it was so huge. 227 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: So that was like that was the one thing that 228 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: one of the things that really um jumped out at me. 229 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: And when he would he would just text me randomly, 230 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: like after a Thursday night show and be like, I'm 231 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: so proud of you, look at what you're doing. Like 232 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: he was just always just so present and and never 233 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: just like letting things pass him by. He never took 234 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: anything for granted, and he always, I think, wanted to 235 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: keep everything in perspective for the people that he loved too. 236 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: And then the other thing that I noticed from going 237 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: through text with him was how many times, Now, there 238 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: were a lot of times that I came and hang 239 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: out and we all hung out a lot, and we 240 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: still do, but how many times I said, no, I can, 241 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: I gotta prep for a show, or I gotta prep 242 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: for draft, or like some meaningless thing that I was 243 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: doing and I have now kind of I'm trying to 244 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: take inventory on that and trying to create like a 245 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: better work life balance. And you guys are work, but 246 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: you're also life, and so I'm I'm trying to see 247 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: if I can like maybe have some type of better 248 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: balance where yeah, I say, you know what, I'm not 249 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: going to prep for like seven weeks for one show 250 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: and like I'll come out and hang out with you guys, 251 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: because that is like really the most important thing or 252 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: creating those moments and we're so lucky to have so 253 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: many of them With West. I like, I like the 254 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: idea of your your infamous prep a binder coming to life, 255 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: growing arms and legs and attacking you for saying that. 256 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny because one of my first 257 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: memories with West was when we uh we traveled to 258 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: it was the draft in Chicago and I had an 259 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: entire carry on twocates filled with binders. What are you 260 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: doing with all of this? And I was like, I 261 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I just need to have all of the 262 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: information at my fingertips. And I remember he was like, 263 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: leave one behind and I was like, really you think so, 264 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: and He's like, you're not gonna need it, and so 265 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: I was like, okay. So we picked the heaviest one 266 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: and took my name out of the front because our 267 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: research department like puts your name and NFL media in 268 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: the front. So I just like I took my name 269 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: out of the front and then just left it at 270 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: the gate at the airport and one of like the 271 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: seats and that me and West just last wow. Uh 272 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: so yeah, sorry I cut you off. Greg. I know 273 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: you were going to say, I don't either. At this point, 274 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: I love listening to you. It is Yeah, I know 275 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: we're going to get to football quickly, and like there's 276 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: no like no great you know transition for that. But 277 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: West is going to be like part of this show. 278 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: And that's sort of that has sort of helped me. 279 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: I really struggled, and you know, when we did that podcast. 280 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: Even even now, it's like I'm selfish, Like I think 281 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: of those times, you know, hanging out with West. That's 282 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: what I what I think of the West. And to me, 283 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: that's like private and that's almost like so precious to me. 284 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: Um that it's that it's hard to to share like 285 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: with a mic uh in in front of your face. Um. 286 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: But that's like the opposite of how West would feel. West. 287 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: West would be like you know, there is no difference. 288 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: He's a hundred percent himself all the time. I try 289 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: to be that way, and like he he would want 290 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: to share it all with the listeners and he did. 291 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: There was no like, there was no bs um to that. 292 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: So I think that's like a good a good thing 293 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: that that I think about. And and you did hit 294 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: me there, uh um Dan talking about Link. I do know, 295 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: I do know how much he he did appreciate, like 296 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: the time he did add with Link that too. I 297 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: saw him more than anyone, um, I mean in my 298 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: life over this pandemic and got to see a lot 299 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: with Lincoln man. He really he did appreciate the time 300 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: he had with him, which meant a lot. Yeah. I 301 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: remember having conversations with him when Lakisha was pregnant about 302 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: fatherhood and and um, yeah, I'm I'm glad he did 303 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: get the time that he did have. Um, and yes, 304 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: we are a football podcast, so and we've been dark. 305 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: And and again the timing of when this all went down, 306 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, the fact we didn't talk about the Super Bowl. 307 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna do some news today and 308 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: and just kind of download everything that's happened. And I 309 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: think Tonny, you and I were texting back and forth 310 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: this morning, Um, like you're the same, I'm the same 311 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: as you, and I think it might be everybody. In 312 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: addition to kind of going dark over the last week 313 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: and a half, I wasn't exactly like pound and refreshed 314 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: on NFL dot com and and and the like, just 315 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: seeing what was going on in the NFL. So when 316 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: I was going through things this morning, I was like, oh, 317 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: Hamed Hameda like a lot of stuff. I gave myself 318 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: a present and literally closed down Twitter except for my 319 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: tennis burner account that was my self care Like my 320 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: tennis burner account still was tracking the Aussie Open. Did 321 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: not see anything else until we got back. Greg. It's 322 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: a very big Jess Pagoula fan. Greg, did you turn 323 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: off the uh NFL network at your house, though, that 324 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: would be the real test. The Twitter is a whole 325 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: different story. We had no football, no nothing. I'm all right, 326 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear. Yes, Jeff Pagoula, the daughter of 327 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: the Pagoulas that owned the Bills, made it to the 328 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: quarterfinals of the Aussie Open. Look at me, Greg, all 329 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: plugged in. I didn't even know that I was that 330 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: one guy with the name that I can't really pronounce 331 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: pounded his racket so hard into the ground that he 332 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: damaged the ground and broke his racket. He's the same 333 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: guy that hit the lady with the tennis ball at 334 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: the US Open and got to squal find what's that 335 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: dude steal? Greg Djokovic? Djokovic, Yeah, what's up with him? 336 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: Give us some quarts of thunder analysis here before we 337 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: get into the NFL talk. Well we you know, I'm 338 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: wearing my Naomi Osaka sweatshirt today in honor of what's 339 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: my Super Bowl tonight, Serena Osaka. It's in primetime on 340 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: the West Coast. I mean, it doesn't it doesn't get 341 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 1: much better than that. Look at you, all right, Well, 342 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: that's something to look forward to, Greg and yes, let's 343 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: get before we get to the news, let's let's share 344 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: some uh mini seg that I'd like to call justifiably 345 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: tardy Super Bowl takeaways. The Chiefs get their doors blown 346 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: off by the Bucks. Um. I think it was thirty 347 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: eight nine something like that. Um. And just curious what 348 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: you guys thought. I like, you guys kind of watched 349 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: the game in the haze. Um. But definitely it was 350 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: memorable for obvious reasons. Um, Greg, what was your kind 351 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: of you have a kind of above the tree tops takeaway? 352 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: To use some corporate jargon, I do, But first I'm 353 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: gonna go with like the smallest takeaway possible, which is 354 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: that like the Bulls of Sons was coming. You know, 355 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: it started with the four of us doing the podcast 356 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: that West is during week one of Bucks or what 357 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: was it? You know, Bucks packers back in and now 358 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: Bucks panthers straight to the top. Um. But now, my 359 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: my bigger point was what a bummer it was for 360 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: Andy Reid that and this is a sad way to 361 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: think about the Super Bowl but the fact that his son, 362 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: who is now no longer with the team, was suspended 363 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: and then ultimately fired because of this tragic accident that 364 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: involved drinking two nights before the Super Bowl. Um, and 365 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be part of what I think, you know, 366 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying like that the sides the game or not, 367 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: but it's certainly ruined Andy Reid's Super Bowl. I mean, 368 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be looking back on this and he's he's 369 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: a guy, as you know calling and our listeners probably too, 370 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: that's had a lot of family tragedy with his son, 371 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: that's been very tied into with his sons, that's been 372 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: tied into his teams because they they've worked for him. 373 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: And I just love Andy Reid and I think so 374 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: many players of his due too. And for this to 375 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: happen two nights before the Super Bowl where you have 376 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and his prime and you get the doors 377 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: blown off you as he said, thirty eight to nine, 378 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: and that Reid had a terrible game, you know, choosing 379 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: to go for the field goal right before halftime and 380 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: then taking some of the most bizarre time outs I've 381 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: ever seen when the Bucks just wanted to get to 382 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: the half um only up one score, and Andy Reid 383 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: has taken time out because he's got faith in his 384 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: defense on third and short and they go and score 385 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: a touchdown. That was like game over to me. Uh, 386 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: he had no answers for what Bowls was doing. That 387 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: everything possible that could have gone poorly from Reid's perspective, 388 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: I think did and that and that, and that is 389 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: unfortunate because I think he's one of the all time greats. 390 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: But now this is you know, a couple a couple 391 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: of Super Bowls, but especially this one really stands out 392 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: as as something that he's gonna have to wear and 393 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: and that he'll he'll try to recover from. I was 394 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: really surprised that we didn't talk about it more. Um 395 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: And granted, like I was in a day's um pretty 396 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: much Friday, Saturday, Sunday, but I I didn't. I thought 397 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: it was kind of odd that we didn't talk more 398 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: about Andy Reid and the distraction that this was because 399 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: it was his son and right and and so many 400 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: times we're like, oh, is this good? Is juju a 401 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: distraction for dancing on the logo? I mean, just dumb 402 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: stuff that we decide is maybe a distraction. Um, that 403 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: is a huge distraction that is super serious before the 404 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: biggest game of the year, and it's the head coach's son. 405 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: So I think that that that played a massive role 406 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: in the outcome of the game. And I was also 407 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: just so shocked at how many penalties, uh, just the 408 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: penalties in the first half that the Chiefs took. There 409 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: were just so many, and they just kept it just 410 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: like wasn't there wasn't the way that they play ever, 411 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: and it just seemed like, you know, they had I 412 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: think they had like eight different penalties maybe in the 413 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: first half that it was just it was so uncharacteristic 414 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: of them to play it out. They were so bad 415 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: get dominated like that, Sony, it didn't make any sense. Um, 416 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: you know that they a team that had been a 417 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: proven champion, reigning Super Bowl champion, that had every chance 418 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: when they faced adversity over the past two off two postseasons, 419 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 1: they always stepped up. And then this game they get 420 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: punched in the mouth, they get punched in the mouth again, 421 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: they get punched in the mouth again, then they get 422 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: an upper cut, then a body blow, and then they're 423 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: on the canvas and they just don't get up and 424 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: it's like, wait, what happened here with this team? Mark? 425 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: What's your take away? Well? I think that you know, 426 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: in general, covering football a blind spot for the vast 427 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: majority of people that didn't play, and I don't really 428 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: worry about that. Dynamic generally is a lack of understanding 429 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: of offensive line, and I think that there, you know, 430 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: with two weeks percolating to discuss this game, we knew 431 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: that the Chiefs had injuries along the offensive line, but 432 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: losing Eric Fisher, one of the more maligned first round 433 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: picks during our time at the NFL. UM I think 434 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: really UM impacted this in incredible ways. I mean, their 435 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: offensive line was dominated. To your point, Greg Todd Bowls, 436 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: UM I thought was doing incredible things all game long 437 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: to make life really tough on everyone. UM Tyreek Hill 438 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: had like what sixteen yards at half or whatever. It 439 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: was a non factor, and we wondered, how can you 440 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: possibly slow this offense? And it turned out to your 441 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: point on the penalties, there was that one drive that 442 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: I thought the game seemed over this point. My homes 443 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: had he was four for thirteen for thirty six yards. 444 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: In their defense gave up incredible the UM, I thought 445 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: incredibly costly holding penalties, the first one in or in 446 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: the in this one drive wiped out a honey Badger 447 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: tipped ball interception. The second one turned to Ryan suck 448 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: up forty yard field goal. It converted into a first down, 449 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: and they marched down the field and throw a touchdown 450 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: to Rob Gronkowski that also had a holding penalty on 451 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: that play. I mean, the defense was coming apart at 452 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: the scenes, and we trust Andy Reid in the Chiefs 453 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: and they're high faluting, you know, staff to make adjustments 454 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: at halftime. And if I told you that their second 455 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: half for the Chiefs would have been a field goal, 456 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: an interception, UM, a drive that ended on downs on 457 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay eleven, another drive that ended a downs 458 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: at the Tampa Bay twenties seven, and then a Patrick 459 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: Mahomes interception to end their season. Um. How many people 460 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: saw that coming. I think the level of beat down 461 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: it has to be considered somewhat shocking. The Tampa Bay defense. 462 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: That was, uh super Bowl history wise, a performance You're 463 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: always gonna remember just the dominance of it and who 464 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: it came against. And you know my point. I think 465 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: Jason liked that the GM and the powers that be 466 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: um in Tampa. But since the GM is usually the 467 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: face of these things, one of the great heaters I 468 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: can ever remember over the past calendar year, UM that 469 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: the Bucks went on um in terms of team building 470 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: that culminated with the Super Bowl win. And I looked 471 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: at I went and found an article before the season started, 472 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: just to get a better idea of who came and 473 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: who went entering this season. And of course Tom Brady 474 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: was the big import and it played out um incredibly 475 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: well where he had another big season, way better than 476 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: his last couple of years in New England, and then 477 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: all through the playoffs. UM. But you know that was 478 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: just part of it. They added uh Gronk who was 479 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: an important part of the team, not the same guy 480 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: he used to be, but clearly that was a nice 481 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: pick up resignings that he made jpp Uh tagging Shack 482 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: Barrett Barretts. So keeping those guys in the building, bringing 483 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: back in Dominan sue, that was a big move. UM. 484 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: The draft picks Tristan Worth's like you said, that addition 485 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: absolute stud uh this year, Antoine Winfield Jr. The safety. 486 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: That guy was UM at a high level in their secondary. 487 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: And then who did they let go, Jamis Winston. It's 488 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: now we we laugh at it, but I'll set it 489 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: on this spot and I'll say it again. With two 490 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: games to play, they the Bucks in the twenty nineteen season, 491 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: they had a Saturday afternoon game in week sixteen, and 492 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: the report out there by the insiders is that because 493 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: Jamis Winson had been playing better, that they were probably 494 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: gonna move forward with Jameis Winston and beyond. He bombs 495 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: out the last two weeks and then that was what 496 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: I guess their their brain trust, if that indeed was 497 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: the case, needed they say goodbye to Jamis Winston, karl 498 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: Nessie Peyton, Barbara sam Accho, Darien Stewart, DeMar Dotson. Although 499 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: just say goodbye to those guys and everything hit and worked, 500 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: and it does tell you, and I think from the 501 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: other teams looking at this, sometimes you are just a 502 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: couple of players away. Because the Bucks went from eternal 503 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: also ran over the last several years to super Bowl champion. 504 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: And yes, you could say, oh, they got Tom Brady, 505 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: that's why they're champion. Uh, in some ways that's true. 506 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: But in general, this this front office deserves a ton 507 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: of credit for just hitting on just about everything and 508 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: now having a Lombardi Trophy. I would say that front 509 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: office struggled for a long time beforehand, but you're right, 510 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 1: but it's it's an argument for patients UM at the 511 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: GM spot potentially, but tom Brady also, I mean, the 512 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: one thing is, and I mentioned this on Sky if 513 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: I can even remember this is what I said, But 514 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: just the idea that you put Tom Brady in isolation 515 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: for fourteen days, no distractions, to get his mind right 516 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: and pull the lever on what would be an incredible 517 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: first half and everyone you know how many people tweeting 518 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: about the fact that Tom Brady had not scored more 519 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: than three touchdown three points in any opening quarter right away, 520 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: he said, I'm gonna take that narrative and shred it 521 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: into a million pieces. Um. He is different than other quarterbacks. 522 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: He's like a burning sun. And I think the entire 523 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 1: team when he came in there, UM said, we're going 524 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: to revolve around him, like there is no question who 525 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: our leader is. It's Bruce Arians. But it's not Bruce 526 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: Arians compared to Tom Brady. I mean, he changed everything 527 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: and it I mean, I'll just I feel lucky that 528 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: we are able to have watched his entire career up 529 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: to this point. But I will say that I have 530 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: literally no memory of that Super Bowl other than the 531 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: first Gronk touchdown. So I need to go rewatch aspects 532 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: of it beyond my notes, you know. But like the 533 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: Winston thing, it feels like a no brainer in retrospect. 534 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: The Brady thing in retrospect seems like a no brainer. 535 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: But it really wasn't only one other team wanted him 536 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: anything million a year. He didn't get any more than 537 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: Philip Manning sweepstakes of two thousand thirteen, where he's going 538 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: on helicopters and is in a half the league and 539 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: everybody's falling over like there was a general belief, and 540 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: I think I shared it and a lot of other 541 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: people did that. Brady probably, even though he would be 542 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: an upgrade over Jameis Winston, would probably be kind of 543 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: like a high level or the top level name brand, 544 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: maybe like a A at this point age forty three, 545 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: better than game manager, maybe like on the right side 546 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: of the Dalton scale, but not necessarily the elite guy. 547 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: And he was he wasn't a gradual decline and then 548 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: it just stopped. And it's a reminder also, you surround 549 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: these older quarterbacks are a great supporting cast. They can 550 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: come out of that gradual decline if they could still 551 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: move and throw the ball, which Brady showed he could. 552 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: He guys like Leonard Fournette too, By the way, one 553 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is another exactly I mean, but for specifically 554 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: for for Net, I feel like he was in Jags 555 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: purgatory for so long and then just kind of got 556 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: this really bad rap. You know, he got ejected from 557 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: that aim for throwing throwing real punches, um, and then 558 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 1: you know, he he just I think he got a 559 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: bad rap for just also being you know, just a 560 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: power runner and not a guy who can catch passes, 561 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: maybe a guy who's not like a team guy, maybe 562 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: a guy that has like a little bit of an 563 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: attitude problem. And all of that is like when we 564 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: heard about him coming out and saying he was crying 565 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: on the phone with his parents just about the journey 566 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: that he's been on and how happy he is that 567 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: he landed where he where he is now in Tampa, 568 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: and the fact that he was able to go on 569 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: and win a Super Bowl, Like it's just it's such 570 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: a great story of how narratives can turn so quickly. 571 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: That didn't make me think of West that day, because West, 572 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: I thought hilariously and correctly at a previous time when 573 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: for Net wasn't thriving. I think he called him like 574 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: the SS for Net for his inability like a huge 575 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: ship to kind of change direction. But that was that 576 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: was accurate when he uttered different though, you know, playoff 577 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: Lenny is different than the Lenny. You know, it was 578 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: such a bomb and Jack Sombardi Lenny. Now they ran great. 579 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like a lot of time Brady super Bowls. 580 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: It's no it's no slight to him. He got a 581 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: great defensive performance. It ran great. He didn't have to 582 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: do much. I heard it like a little chatter almost 583 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: like Brady didn't play like Brady was a little up 584 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: and down in the playoffs, which I think is fair, 585 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: but I think it's sort of has lost that he 586 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: was a top ten quarterback in the season like he was. 587 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: He was much better in the regular season than I 588 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: think people that didn't watch him each you know, every week, 589 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: gave him credit for he was a top ten quarterback then, 590 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: and they were a great team and Shack Barrett, you know, finally, 591 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: just if he needed to stick at the mark one 592 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: more time, he did it. Ten pressure. I mean, I've 593 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: given us that one at this point, But I mean 594 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: also you couldn't script the quarterbacks in the icons that 595 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: Brady mowed down to get to that Super Bowl. I 596 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: mean it's like you could you never could have. And 597 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: I think that they were when it did late in 598 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: the year. They never lost after that, and they talked 599 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: about readjusting and a lot of that is like Bruce Arians. 600 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette wanted to lead the team and Bruce Arians 601 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: basically said to him, you decide who you are and 602 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: what you want to be and he and I think 603 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: that's the leadership of Bruce Arians too. We uh, we 604 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: bombed our sandwich props. I'm just checking it out now. 605 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. The Weekend creates controversy that's discussed on CNN. 606 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: It was fine, The show was fine, but it was 607 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: it was tapping anybody know. I know there was the 608 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: theme was they're all men everywhere on the stage and 609 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: the dancers and everything. There were no women. I wonder 610 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: what that was about. Uh, Greg Rosenthal JPP has at 611 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: least two sacks. Uh. Dan gront catches a fourth quarter 612 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: or ot touchdown that gives Bucks the lead or ties 613 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: the score. He did two touchdowns both your hand on 614 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: the pulse. There a little we were in the right 615 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: church around, and you violated your own rule of being 616 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: too specific. I know, I know, I just wanted to hang. 617 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to hang no like I hung onions on 618 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: this one because I I just called my homes m 619 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: v P last year, and I felt that was too safe. 620 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: So I was just like trying to balance things out. Uh. 621 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Brandt, who's on that show, said Scotty Miller will 622 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: score a four yard touchdown while throwing up deuces to 623 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: mock tyreek Hill and that was also right church around 624 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: few because Antoine Winfield Junior mocked with some deuces at 625 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: the end of that game and got a penalty for it. 626 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: And Ricky had Chad Henny throwing a pass and that 627 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: didn't happen. So a big old zero burger for or 628 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: nothing burger or whatever the people say for the pod. 629 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: All right, those are justifiably tardy super Bowl takeaways. Good 630 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: for the bucks though, good for Brady. I enjoyed it. 631 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: Greg secret leaves dying. He hated it. What are you 632 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: talking about? I was murdering them on all year. You 633 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: tell it's just a bit Greg, You're meant to kind 634 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: of you have to share him with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 635 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: and they look they they're one of the few teams 636 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: not much salary cap issues, no one that they need 637 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: to cut in particular. I mean, it's tough to repeat, 638 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: but they will be right there next year. There's no 639 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: reason why they You've got to bring Shady McCoy back. 640 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: I don't see any reason why you wouldn't two rings, 641 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: two rings, the ultimate rings guy, two rings in two 642 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: years without taking a single snap in the super Bowl. 643 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: That's the that's the first always the first offseason trope 644 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: storyline is, hey, I took a look at this roster. 645 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna run it back. I think always a trope. 646 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying they feel like almost like the first 647 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: Bucks championship. That's like, okay, this was just a moment 648 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: in time and whatever, and I think it is, but 649 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: it might be like a two year moment in time. 650 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: Would not surprise me to see them back in the 651 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: divisional round or something right back in the mix. That's all. 652 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean, what what what a contract? Like you said, 653 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: two years, fifty million, You're gonna get his age forty 654 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: three and forty four season, and then you get to 655 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: reevaluate where Tom's at uh, and you already got a 656 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: ring out of it. It's a house, it's a house. 657 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: Money here for the bucks. Of course Tom Brady will 658 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: never look at that, and he never has a right 659 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: before we go, we have a lot to do. We 660 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: have a lot of news to catch up. There's so 661 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: much news that's happened, so let's spend through it. Well, Collen, 662 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: let's let's isolate that for the future, Erica, because Connie 663 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: just sounded like she was, you know, laying on the 664 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: couch on an off day. You know, I'll leave it 665 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: at that. It's kind of what happened. There's so much news, man, 666 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: all right, that was Colleens. That was Colleen's like kind 667 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: of like soft request to tap out of the rest 668 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: of the show. I think it was. It was like 669 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: it was her not running back on defense and just 670 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: kind of looking over at the coach. Alright, let's listen 671 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: to this. I want to speak directly to you in 672 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: the city of Houston, UM, so you can hear the 673 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: words straight from my mouth. UM. I have sat down 674 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: with the McNair family and I have asked them for 675 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: my release, and we have mutually agreed to part ways 676 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: at this time. There are the words of J. J. Watts, 677 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: the iconic playmaker that has been the heartbeat of the 678 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: Texans defense for a decade. First round pick in two 679 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: thousand and eleven, now a free agent after what and 680 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: Houston agreed to mutually or they mutually agreed to part ways? 681 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: And um, you know this is an ongoing storyline. So 682 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: this happened late last week. Um. Since then, according to 683 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: ESPN S Edward are approximately a dozen teams have expressed 684 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: interest in the former defensive Player of the Year. That 685 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: group includes the Steelers, Bills, Titans. Cleveland dot Com came 686 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: out and reported that Wat is seriously considering signing with 687 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: the Browns. Mark Sessler and what tweeted just today that 688 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: free agency is what was his word? Crazy? Wild? How 689 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: about that J J. Watt on the market? I mean, 690 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: I would I the Browns side of it. Let's just 691 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: wait and see, because I think he'd be seriously considering 692 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: a number of teams. The Titans would be one way. Um, 693 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: and there you know, they've shown interest to stick it 694 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: to the Texans for a couple of years, um, which 695 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: I would imagine might have something to do with where 696 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: he'd land there a playoff, super Bowl type team too. 697 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean my thing with it's more of a Texans 698 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: story for me, and I don't want to take us 699 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: off course, but I can't imagine being if you're David Culley, 700 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: the new head coach, Um, if you know this is 701 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: what you're adopting, a team minus J. J. Watt, your 702 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: love E Smith, who who is coming back to the 703 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: NFL to take over a Texans defense absent J J. Watt. 704 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: I love the idea of him going somewhere else. I 705 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: get that he's um. The injury history is a concern, 706 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: the age is a concern. You're not getting J. J. Watten, 707 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: but he can be still incredibly disruptive. And I love 708 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: reading some stuff about the idea that it's not just 709 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: on the edge. You can move them all over the line. 710 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: And so a team like Cleveland, a team like Tennessee, 711 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: that would be a huge need um address for both 712 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: of them. Uh. I just think it's an incredible scenery shift, 713 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of I feel energy energy around watching J. J. 714 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: Watt somewhere else. I think you're gonna get an angry 715 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: UM player was something to prove he was good last year. 716 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: I think people kind of sleep on where he's at 717 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: because he was, you know, for three years, the best 718 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: defensive player I had I had ever seen up until 719 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: that point. And he's not that guy anymore. But I 720 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: think he's probably a top ten to fifteen edge type player. 721 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: It's just it's more about disruption in the run game 722 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: and everything else. And he you know that it was 723 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: strange because it's just it's a bad It makes the 724 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: Texans look inept that he wanted out of there. They 725 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: probably we're gonna cut him anyways, just because it felt 726 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: like the time to do so, and he was doing 727 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: so much money and he probably you know, beat them 728 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: to the punch and asked to be let go, and 729 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: so they said, okay, um. But like I think he 730 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: can help a team. He's still he's still pretty good. 731 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: It's so funny because J. J. Watt, we all know 732 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: that he loved his attention, so this has to be 733 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: like catnip for him. If he is getting all of 734 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: these offers and you have his you know, different guys 735 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: from around the NFL recruiting him, it's like perfect for him. 736 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's just like basking in all of the 737 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: all of the attention right now, and it's got to 738 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: be so crazy for him to actually, for the first 739 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: time and so long, have somewhat control over his career 740 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: and where he goes and what happens. But I like 741 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: the idea of him going to the Titans, especially obviously 742 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: in the division. But wasn't rabel on that on that 743 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: Texans staff And uh, John Robinson he he worked him out. 744 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: He was on the network talking about how he worked 745 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: out J. J. Watt when he was the scouting director 746 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: for the Patriots um years ago and loved him. So 747 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: you have so many different dots that you can connect, 748 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: whether it's going to play for the Packers because he'll 749 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: be back in Wisconsin, or his brothers are in Pittsburgh, 750 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: or maybe he wants to play against his his brothers 751 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 1: in that division with the Browns. So you know, that's 752 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: that's one thing I was thinking about. But also it's like, 753 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: of course J. J. Watt is going to like stir 754 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: things up and be like, oh, it's wild, Like I 755 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: don't know if it's maybe maybe it's a ploy for 756 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: him to get even more attention. Why not like live 757 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: it up now. I loved him making the announcement from 758 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: that log cabin that he was so proud to show 759 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: off on Hard Knocks a few years back. Yeah, the Titans. 760 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: That makes sense to me, especially after John Robinson. We're 761 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: going to get to John Robinson a second. The GM 762 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: with so badly with Vic Beasley and Jadamian Clowney last year. Uh, 763 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: you bring in a ready made playmaker like what maybe 764 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: that addresses their past rush issues, which is one of 765 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: many issues they have on defensive Tennessee. But the Browns 766 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: are the one I like the most. Mark. I think 767 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: like he He's a guy that everybody kind of wants 768 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: to be connected to the Browns right now. They're hot, 769 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: which is hard to believe, but that's just the way 770 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: things are now, and want to be connected to the 771 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: Browns getting over the hump, and especially if Olivier Vernon 772 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: doesn't come back after blowing his was Achilles, he would 773 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: just be such a great book nd um wherever they 774 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: line them up. Really, But with that, he doesn't have 775 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: to be the man there. That's Myles Garrett's job, and 776 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: he could be maybe that missing piece on their defense. 777 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: Especially Uh. We saw in the playoffs that they could 778 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: use some help in the middle there of their line, 779 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: and I think they only have if you look at 780 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: their lineup right now heading into the off season in 781 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: the draft, like five starters on defense, five or six. 782 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that there's need all over the place. 783 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: And imagine like what it does to an offensive coordinator 784 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 1: to have to deal with Miles Garrett a healthy Miles 785 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: Garrett um and J. J. Watt on both sides. I mean, 786 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: it's sort of a dream if you're if if you 787 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: could make that happen. But he fits anywhere, Like, tell 788 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: me it's outside of the you know, Green Bays a 789 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: great fig. Green Bay has a lot of money tied 790 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: up in the two free agent edge rushers they brought 791 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: in two seasons ago. But I mean, tell me anyone 792 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna say no, I don't think we have room 793 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: for any mental cases. Yeah, any contenders, yes, other than 794 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: any contender that has some money to spare, because everybody 795 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: wants pass rush that they could generate without blitzing. And 796 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: to what he could bring. One other thing on my 797 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 1: radar here, J J. Watt tweeted out a like happy 798 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: anniversary to his wife with I can't remember if it's 799 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 1: a photo or a video, but it's of her eating 800 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: wings in her wedding dress, which really just stopped me 801 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: in my tracks. Because you like that. I think that 802 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: she I would follow her anywhere. I mean, anyone who 803 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 1: is that brazen to eat wings in a wedding dress? 804 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: Like I can't even eat anything for TNF without getting 805 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: it all over me. I've had to wear shirts backwards 806 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: this year on the air because you guys would be 807 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: fast friends. I think that sounds to some shared interests. Yeah, 808 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: she's a professional athlete. You were a figure skater. You 809 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: know the golf courses of Pennsylvania, Well is very rich rich. 810 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: The wedding. The wedding dress is an interesting thing because 811 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: it's the most like it's as you know, going through 812 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: a wedding and being around people in that Like, it's 813 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: such a huge element of the whole thing. Gotta find 814 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: the dress, Gotta love the dress, Gotta watch this reality 815 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: show about the dress, Gotta read about the dress, Gotta 816 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: buy the dress. And then you wear the dress once 817 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,959 Speaker 1: and then what do you do? Like, where's your wedding 818 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: dress right now, Colleen? It's in a box at my 819 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: parents house. And I actually split my wedding dress at 820 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: the wedding. Um, I think I ate too much too quick, 821 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize that split it until like I 822 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: took the dress off and there was a giant like 823 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: hole down the side. So you know, I mean, who knows, 824 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: maybe the dress should be in a trash can. I 825 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: just want to go on the record that if he's 826 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: posting a video or photos of her eating wings, he's 827 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: going to Buffalo. Oh that's not a spot. See, I 828 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: thought Ritchie was gonna have a wedding dress take and 829 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: then she comes in with a thunder take that really 830 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: rattles the entire podcast. So that's just that's why she's 831 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: great bread crumbs. Yes, maybe Rickie's right. All right, let's uh, 832 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: let's move on. Talks some quarterback heat Russell Wilson. This 833 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: this kind of came out of nowhere. I feel like, 834 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 1: um he uh spoke to reporters via zoom last week 835 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: and uh said, you know what, I'm frustrated. I'm getting 836 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: hit a lot, and I want to be involved with 837 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: team personnel decisions to make this Seattle Seahawks team better 838 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 1: and get us over the hump. Here's a quote, like 839 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: any player, you never want to get hit. That's the 840 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: reality of playing this position. Ask any quarterback who wants 841 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: to play this game. But at the same time, it's 842 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: part of the job and everything else. I think that 843 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: the reality is that I've definitely been hit. I've been 844 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: sacked almost four hundred times. So we've got to get better. 845 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 1: I've got to find ways to get better too. And then, um, Greg, 846 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: what what happens? Immediately after that his team start picking 847 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: up the phone and good job by all those gms. 848 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: You want to kick the tires on the Hall of 849 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: Famer like Russell Wilson thirty two years old and say, hey, 850 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: you're looking to maybe get this guy out of town 851 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: as he uh is this relationship in trouble and it 852 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: sounds like that's not happening. But it's interesting that we're 853 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: even talking about this right now. Oh, it's because it's 854 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: the intent of Russell Wilson to have us talk about it. 855 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: You know, he's like a a more in prime version 856 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: of J. J. Watt. This is what he wants. I mean, 857 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: he's the one who is telling the country I am 858 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: interested in playing for another team. Like that's how I 859 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 1: take it. I don't think it's I don't think that's 860 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: even connecting dots. Like Gara, Folo had the same response. 861 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: He he thought you know, he said it on her area. 862 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: It's like sounded like a guy who has one foot 863 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: out the door and wants to see what happens. And 864 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: to me, it doesn't come out of nowhere because he 865 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: pulled the same stuff either last offseason or the off 866 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 1: season before. I can't remember when he went on Jimmy 867 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: Fallon and he started talking about this, you know kind 868 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: of stuff. He wants people to be interested, and longtime 869 00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson um observers have noted weirdly, if you want 870 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: to know what Russell Wilson and you know more and 871 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: his agent think, listen to Colin Coward, who's kind of 872 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: been I think of Russell Wilson whisper for whatever reason. 873 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. That seems like a weird one to me. 874 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: But he's kind of been ahead of the game, you know, 875 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: he's kind of known what Russell Wilson's camp wants, and 876 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: he's been leading this charge, banging the drums at the 877 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: offensive line, s things he wants to be part of 878 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: the thing, wants to be part of the personnel decisions, 879 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: and he's driving this. I don't think the Seahawks want 880 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: to trade him like Ilive I believe that part. But 881 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting to me that he's doing this. 882 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: He has a no trade clause. Um trading him would 883 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 1: cost this isn't really negotiable, like a forty million dollar 884 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: dead cap hit. Um. He's also said in one of 885 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: those same interviews he wants to be in Seattle forever. 886 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: I think he was genuinely annoyed that they moved on 887 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: from Brian Schottenheimer. Now people feel different things about Brian Schottenheimer, 888 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: but those two, for various reasons, we're close. It puts 889 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on them to appease him. But 890 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't know about this, like quarterbacks being involved in 891 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: personnel decisions. I think that there is something to be 892 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: said when you're a Deshaun Watson or your Russell Wilson 893 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: or Patrick Mahomes and you're in that higher upper echelon 894 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: of salary and so much is being you know, you 895 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 1: put your way and then you've got a Super Bowl window. 896 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: I get the idea of weighing in, but I mean, 897 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't really know what personnel decision means for me. 898 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: This thing is like I was driving around a little 899 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: bit last week trying to kind of not get involved 900 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: with football. And I heard Colin Coward going off on 901 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and this whole thing, and I said, I 902 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: could just do without this anti drama. He's going nowhere, 903 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere, and what what's an issue for 904 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and a an additional challenge here is yes, 905 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: their offensive line could absolutely use an upgrade, but they 906 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 1: just last summer traded their next two first round picks 907 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: for safety and Jamal Adams, So that's gonna make it 908 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: a little bit tougher to get the guys that will 909 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: make an impact. You just have to trust your decision 910 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: makers to make the right moves. They've tried and he 911 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: had a part in hiring Shane Waldron supposedly, so we 912 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: we never mentioned that the former Rams coordinator who is 913 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: now going to be calling place for Seattle, and supposedly 914 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson had some say in that too, So that 915 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: would indicate the anything has never called plays um in 916 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 1: the NFL, So that that's a bit of a mystery 917 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 1: higher and we'll see how it works out. An other 918 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: UH star quarterback news. While this man was once a star, 919 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz after suffering through a miserable season. With the 920 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: Eagles getting benched, he is on the trade block, and 921 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: Albert Brier, our former NFL media colleague, now with s 922 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: I believes that the Bears are the quote front runner 923 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: for whence the other team that has been bandied about 924 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: is a logical landing spot because of head coach ties 925 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: is the Colts, who have reportedly offered up two second 926 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: round picks. So that's where we're at on that one. 927 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: Connie and and I know we've talked about vents and 928 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: you're ready to move on, and the Eagles nation seems 929 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: to be ready to move on. If they did indeed 930 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: move them and not get a first round pick back, 931 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: how would you feel about that? I mean, at this point, 932 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: it just feels like the market for him is not 933 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: great because you know the money involved and the tape 934 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: that he put out there. I mean, who's going to 935 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,720 Speaker 1: jump at that situation? So I wouldn't. I don't really 936 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: expect them to get a lot, but they should get 937 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: a lot, So it's almost like a lose lose situation. 938 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: But I still feel like I don't know what's if 939 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: the Bears, if that is actually going to be the 940 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: landing spot for him. I feel like the Colts are 941 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: still the most logical, you know spot for him, and 942 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 1: Garifolo was on a little bit ago just saying that 943 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: the Cults are are still sort of it the top 944 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: of the list and nothing is really imminent, but that's 945 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: something will be done relatively soon. So I don't know, 946 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: like nothing is imminent, but relatively soon. Um so maybe 947 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: maybe like in the next two weeks we hear something, 948 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: but we know that the Colts are not budging from 949 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: that offer, and they don't really that's not something that 950 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: they do, like, that's not Chris Ballard's style. They like 951 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: their draft picks, they use them wisely um most times, 952 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: and they don't want to give them away. So I 953 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: don't think that they will. I don't think they'll they'll 954 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: give anything up more for Wentz and my favorite lot 955 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: of other teams doing it either. The line that I 956 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: love the most out of this scenario that I read 957 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: in preparation for the show was that Breer also mentions 958 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: that the Bears coaching staff believes they can fix the 959 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 1: mechanical issues whence developed in the years since his back 960 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: in a sales surgeries. I am thinking in my mind 961 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: and searching for a team I trust less to fix 962 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: any mechanical issues anywhere, whether it be in Wentz or 963 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 1: a car broken down, right, I mean he got first 964 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 1: of all, he gone. I mean, he's so gone. Are 965 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: you if they really offered two seconds take now before 966 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: something happens, are you kidding me? First two seconds sounds 967 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: like a miracle. I don't believe that, because I think 968 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: they would take it in a second. Roman would absolutely 969 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 1: cash in on those pics and do the right thing 970 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: with them. Like I get it, I get it. He's 971 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: put up some some numbers in the past, but he 972 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: didn't just struggle last year. He was like the worst 973 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. He was he was it. To 974 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 1: get two picks seems like incredibly lucky, and they're gonna 975 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 1: do it, and it's happening, and it just shows how 976 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,879 Speaker 1: dumb everyone was for killing the Eagles for um only 977 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: hiring a coach that needs to fix Carson Wentz because 978 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,879 Speaker 1: no one knew what they were talking about. Then they 979 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: clearly intended to trade him the whole time. They are 980 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: going to trade him. If they get anything for him, 981 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 1: they should be happy, because yes, it's all this dead 982 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: money on their cap, but it actually doesn't you know, 983 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: hurt their cap this year. It was a massive mistake 984 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: in their admitiate, but get out of that mistake and 985 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: get out of the shot. Gonzo, you know he's in 986 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: the background. I'm just happy Connie was. I'm just happy 987 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: that Gonzo was wearing clothes when he just entered the 988 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 1: back of that shot. Um, don't to be fine. If 989 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 1: he were wearing less, we could have seen what we 990 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: haven't seen in his nude form. Yeah that, I mean, 991 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 1: that would have been interesting high point. And for people 992 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: who are like, wait a second, wait a second, the 993 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: Lions got two first round picks for Matthew Stafford, so 994 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles should get at least the first round. Now, 995 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: it's totally different because the Rams had to pay to 996 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 1: get Jared Goff off their roster, and that's why it 997 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: had led to premium draft picks. So don't don't. It's 998 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 1: an Apple's the orange just thing, even if if you 999 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: see Stafford and Wentz is somewhat similar, uh in terms 1000 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: of play level. Um, all right, okay, keep moving, we 1001 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: gotta keep moving here. Alright, alright, alright, Colleen, out of here. 1002 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, you know, I'm under the impression that Ben 1003 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is gonna be there, one and done, even though 1004 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 1: his boy pound see uh and the other pency of 1005 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: the Free Hernandez movement um believe that. Uh you know, 1006 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: the story was that if markis retired, Ben would retire. 1007 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: Now the center's gone, so it's Ben gone. It doesn't 1008 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: seem like it seems like Roethlisberger wants to play, but 1009 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: that the Steelers want him. Uh. Steelers GM Kevin Colbert 1010 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: said on Wednesday that Pittsburgh has to quote look at 1011 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: this current situation, referring to the salary cap when asked 1012 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: about Roethlisberger being uh starting quarterback. Uh so you know this, 1013 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: Marcus continues, The Steelers can put the fire out at 1014 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: any time they want on this and say, oh no, no, 1015 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: Ben's will find a way to make it work. He's 1016 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: a legendary player in our franchise, and you know, or 1017 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: some type of answer that just just kind of tamps 1018 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 1: this down. But instead, if they're starting to build things 1019 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: up in a way that's reminiscent almost of what the 1020 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: Rams did with Jared Goff different circumstances, but makes you 1021 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 1: wonder if really the Steelers are seriously looking whether it's 1022 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 1: a after somebody out there on the market to replace 1023 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger the way coming off a very disappointing end 1024 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: to the season. I mean, I think it's the money, 1025 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: it's the the age, it's last year's performance. Is the 1026 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: fact that you know, they swung and missed on Mason Rudolph. 1027 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,399 Speaker 1: But Mason Rudolph was a potential air had he really 1028 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: worked out. They've been looking for someone for a while, 1029 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: and I believe the quote, you know my ownership was 1030 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: something along the lines of Ben Roethlisberger right now is 1031 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: still our quarterback, which is probably like how like NFL 1032 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 1: Network would speak about me like he is on our payroll. 1033 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 1: It's not like we're gonna tell you a lot more 1034 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: we feel about this person. And if I'm Ben Roethlisberger, 1035 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking, um, yikes, that's not the reveal. 1036 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: I think it is usually right. I mean, I think 1037 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: everyone's just like they're probably like, we have to see 1038 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 1: what other options become available. You know, what else materializes, 1039 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 1: and you can't like flame openly flame Big Ben more 1040 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: than they did, um, but came pretty close. That's not 1041 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: how you treat someone that's been in your organization for 1042 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: a decade and a half. According to his people, I 1043 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: would imagine, yeah, I think he wants to come back Roethlisberger. 1044 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: So it just seems crazy to me that that they 1045 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: that they wouldn't have him back if he wants to 1046 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,479 Speaker 1: come back. And I know that they have to figure 1047 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: out the cap, and this is maybe just a way 1048 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 1: of being like, hey, you're gonna have to like figure 1049 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: out a way to take a team friendly restructuring of 1050 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: some sort. But which that that's probably what this is, 1051 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 1: but it just it just seems insane because they were 1052 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: so close to to getting so far this year, and 1053 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: that's what everyone's expectations were really high for them. So 1054 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: it seems like at least with that defense, they still 1055 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: have like they still have a good window, I think, Um, 1056 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 1: So it just seems like kind of crazy to shut 1057 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,280 Speaker 1: it right now with Big Ben. They did also were 1058 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: very close to losing sixth straight, and I think he's gone. 1059 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean I kind of thought it already because the 1060 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: owner said he's gonna have to take a pay cut, 1061 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: and you only you only ask a player to take 1062 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: a pay cut if you're ready to cut him, if 1063 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: you don't care if he's on your team, ultimately next year. 1064 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: So they said that publicly. They said that publicly a 1065 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,879 Speaker 1: month ago, and he was like, I'll take any pick 1066 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: cut I want, I'll play for free. And still they're 1067 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 1: coming out and saying, well, we're not really sure. I 1068 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 1: think he's gone, and I think the Steelers fans got 1069 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: to at least be and I think they'll be happy 1070 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: he's gone. Based on the Steelers fans, I am not happy, 1071 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: but they're dec think just ready to move on and 1072 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: maybe hope he retires because that'll help the cap a 1073 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: little more. Um, I think you gotta at least emotionally 1074 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,760 Speaker 1: prepare your yourself, Steelers fans for the possibility of Week 1075 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 1: one starting quarterback Mason Rudolph. I mean, if you ever, 1076 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: if you ever Haskins, I don't know, man. He played. 1077 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: He played pretty well against the Browns. And when you 1078 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 1: hear what the Steelers brass says about Mason Rudolph and 1079 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 1: that they kind of are curious about him going into 1080 00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 1: the final year of his rookie contract, I think they 1081 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 1: have always had a higher belief in him, obviously than 1082 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,360 Speaker 1: anyone else. And he played well in that one game. Um, 1083 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: it was probably the best game by a Steelers quarterback 1084 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 1: all year. Maybe he actually did play pretty on the 1085 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,359 Speaker 1: game to give him some credit. Um, but I don't 1086 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: think it's a good move. I'm just saying, be ready 1087 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 1: stealing that was the That's that's an absurd comment to 1088 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 1: say that was the best Steelers quarterback game all year. Yes, 1089 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: there weren't many. There weren't many good Big Ben games. Um. 1090 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: I I see it as posturing. Ultimately, I disagree where 1091 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: you're coming from makes sense, but I think it does 1092 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 1: remind me um as a Yankee fan. Is the at 1093 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: the end of Derek Jeter's career, the Yankees did something 1094 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: similarly where they basically hardlined him and they said, you're 1095 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: not the same guy anymore. We'd like to have you back, 1096 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 1: but we're taking control of this and we're not going 1097 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 1: to give you some hometown discount to stay around. And 1098 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: eventually Jeter bit down and took the contract and was 1099 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: bitter about it. Bens has a different Ben has a 1100 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: different public stance here. He's basically putting himself out there 1101 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: and saying I'll play for whatever you pay me. Please 1102 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: don't don't end my career this way. Um. I think 1103 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: he'll end up coming back at a at a discount 1104 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: for the Steelers. Wouldn't it be great if the Browns 1105 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: ended the big the Ben Roethlisberger era. I think they 1106 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: already did it. Mark we got I think you're right, 1107 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: because you look at those he was shedding tears on 1108 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: the sideline and it wasn't just about that game. I 1109 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: will give you a sandwich. Bet anyone can take me 1110 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: up right now. Week one, Big Ben starting quarterback Houston, Texans. 1111 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,919 Speaker 1: I see it, and I see it already because I'll 1112 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: take that, all right, because I could see him cozy 1113 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 1: Jack easterby Big Ben and Jack easterby two peas in 1114 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 1: a pod for about six weeks until he's replaced by 1115 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: a rookie. UM. All right, we'll see how it all 1116 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: plays out. I already got a sandwich in my back pocket, 1117 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: feeling good about it. Let's move on. More quarterback drama. 1118 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: ESPN excuse NFL Networks Ian Rapaport reports that there is 1119 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 1: quote legitimate and real trade interests involving Marcus Mariotta, the 1120 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: Raiders backup who had a tremendous game uh late in 1121 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: the season, replacing Derek gard I think it was the 1122 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 1: Dolphins game actually that was blown hideously. I believe it 1123 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: was that leak Chargers that it was a prime time 1124 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: meltdown for the for the Raiders. But he played incredibly 1125 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: well in that game, and The Athletic reported that the 1126 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: Raiders prefer to trade Mariotta instead of Derek carr Uh, 1127 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 1: their incumbent starting quarterback. We just have to see how 1128 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: it plays out. Mariotta was awesome, um in that one game. 1129 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 1: If they're able to leverage that into some value in 1130 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 1: a trade, that would be a big win for the Raiders. 1131 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 1: I believe I remember that game because it was I 1132 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 1: don't know if it was. It was definitely like a 1133 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 1: Thursday night package game, but it wasn't on a Thursday, 1134 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: or maybe it was, it doesn't matter. It was definitely 1135 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: against the Chargers in overtime and Derek Carr he got hurt. 1136 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 1: What was that like on the Raiders first drive? I 1137 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: think so there was a couple people that were kind 1138 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 1: of like, well, Mariota, Mariota. Mariota didn't didn't start any 1139 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: games this year, but that was kind of like a 1140 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: start because he basically played that entire game, and when 1141 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: he came into that game, he led like an eighties 1142 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 1: six yard touchdown drive and it was he led four 1143 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: different scoring drives in that game. And I remember we 1144 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: were we were texting during that game because we were like, 1145 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 1: is Mariota still good? Like look at look at the 1146 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: way that he's able to use his legs still and 1147 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: all of the things that we liked and and that 1148 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 1: we're good about him when he was in Tennessee. He 1149 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: just he still has it. And I feel like that 1150 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 1: game really helped showcase his abilities that he still has. 1151 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, maybe a spot like 1152 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 1: who knows, maybe he ends up in New England? How 1153 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 1: would that be? I could see it. I this this 1154 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: whole thing raised I raised my eyebrows though, because the car, 1155 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 1: because the car inclusion in it is basically the part 1156 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: that raised my eyebrows, Like okay, so you are willing 1157 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 1: to trade car? And then I thought there was this 1158 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 1: really strange article that came out like two weeks or 1159 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 1: a week before the Super Bowl in the Las Vegas 1160 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: Review Journal that kind of played around with where the 1161 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: sources were coming from, but basically was saying there was 1162 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: a lot of interest in Derek Carr just out of nowhere, 1163 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like, who's who's putting this out there 1164 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 1: because it doesn't really make sense for Derek car to 1165 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 1: be putting this out there, so it's in the Las 1166 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 1: Vegas Review Journal. It kind of makes sense that, even 1167 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 1: though they kind of hid the source in away that 1168 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: it was like league insiders really think that David Carr 1169 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 1: is gonna Derek car is gonna have a market, but 1170 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: it would take two first round picks to get them. 1171 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 1: It's like it felt like a clumsy attempt for the 1172 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,439 Speaker 1: Raiders to drum up some interest in Derek CARRS would 1173 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,479 Speaker 1: have felt like, on the outside, to me value top 1174 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: values two second rounders. I feel like that would right, 1175 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: it's not gonna, it's not gonna to first for Derek Carr. 1176 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 1: I do feel like the Raiders. I mean, you're into 1177 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: year four with Gruden. Um maybe he has his quarterback. 1178 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: I've always felt like they those two are a little 1179 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 1: bit um oil and vinegar. Although those things do go together, 1180 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: I guess um, but I would just say that Derek 1181 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: Carr is this one quarterback, oil and vinegar. Don't mess 1182 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 1: though it's a brown spot in the middle, Like that's 1183 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:33,439 Speaker 1: the vinegar part, right, Oh my god, that's the only 1184 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 1: way to have a I mean that's like an actual dressing. 1185 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: So it does go together, I know, but it's set well, 1186 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: it visually separates, is all I'm saying. But that's not 1187 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 1: really helping me with my point either. But I think 1188 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 1: the car just feels like a quarterback that you have 1189 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: to constantly kind of um prop of his feelings and manage. 1190 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: He gets so stung by stuff that it's like it 1191 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 1: feels like a bit laborious. I I wouldn't hate a 1192 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 1: fresh start somewhere. Do something. Raiders. We're always talking about you, like, 1193 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: oh watch out, they could do something crazy, but you 1194 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: never do it. Give us something here, Raiders, do something crazy. 1195 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: You be a team that gives up way too much 1196 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz happen. I mean they and in their defense, 1197 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 1: they were in on Tom Brady last offseason and Tom 1198 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: Brady was like, I'm not going out West, so they 1199 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, and Derek Carr did go in the media 1200 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: and say that that was something that gave him um 1201 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 1: some additional fire and blah blah blah. You know, the 1202 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 1: Raiders are interesting in the sense that they have growed 1203 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 1: in on that ten year deal and it was a 1204 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 1: deep rebuild when he took over the team, and it 1205 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 1: seemed to be going in the right direction. But the 1206 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: that December knows that ive. This year in particular, I thought, 1207 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: was um speaking of eyebrow raising. To me, it's like 1208 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 1: they're entering into tricky terrain now because the third year, 1209 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 1: that was where they were supposed to kind of get 1210 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 1: to the playoffs and and really show growth. Instead they 1211 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 1: ended up exactly where they were at the end of 1212 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: the year two of the regime. So now we enter 1213 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 1: year four, and if you don't get results in year four, 1214 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: it's like, geez, were almost halfway through this insane contract 1215 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: with this guy, and are we going anywhere with this dude? 1216 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 1: So this is a huge year for the Raiders. Uh 1217 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,919 Speaker 1: for that reason. Alright, just a quick note, we're only 1218 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: about sixteen quarterbacks away from covering every quarterback situation in 1219 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 1: the NFL. They did, You're right, we have a we 1220 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: have a Taylor Heineke. But first I want to hit 1221 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: on a juicy little nugget from it is coming up 1222 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: on draft season now, and we we obsess over draft 1223 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 1: picks and who's the first round pick and this, and 1224 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: then the fan base goes nuts and used them as 1225 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 1: this guy savior for whatever position he plays well. The 1226 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: Titans used their first round pick on Isaiah Wilson, an 1227 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 1: offensive tackle that they thought they could view as a 1228 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 1: lynchpin on their line man. John Robinson had a pretty 1229 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,919 Speaker 1: rough off season UH and Wilson barely played last year, 1230 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 1: went on the COVID list twice, got a d U 1231 01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: I UM, and coming off that, you now have John 1232 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 1: Robinson going out in the media UM today and saying this, Yeah, 1233 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: I think, um, you know again, we we put him 1234 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 1: on the on the reserve UH non football illness list there. 1235 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to him since since that list got 1236 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: put out, you know, I think, um so, I think 1237 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna have to make a determination UM 1238 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 1: if he wants to do everything necessary to probably pro 1239 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 1: football UM. And and that's gonna be you know, on him. 1240 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 1: UM so, UM, I know what the expectation level is here. 1241 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 1: It's no different than any other player on the football team. 1242 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, we have a certain standard that we want 1243 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: players UH to prepare and and UM perform at professionally. UM. 1244 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: And his people and UM a lot of work to 1245 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: be done there. That's really bad because he was placed 1246 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Wilson was placed on the reserve non football illness list 1247 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 1: on December night, So the the team to not even 1248 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 1: be in contact with him for this amount of time, 1249 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: a reigning first round pick. This is heading towards all 1250 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 1: time bus territory. And you didn't even There wasn't really 1251 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: clarity and why he was placed on that list either. 1252 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: It sounded like he was just placed on it because 1253 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,160 Speaker 1: they were done with him. They never said he had 1254 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 1: an illness. Yeah, I mean, I love bot. I found that. 1255 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 1: We're sorry Mark that were like that jumped out at me. 1256 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,439 Speaker 1: Um Robinson said that we did a lot of work 1257 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 1: on him leading up to the draft. The player that 1258 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 1: was here in the fall was not the player we evaluated. 1259 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 1: He's going to have to make a determination if he 1260 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 1: wants to play pro football. That's on him. And then 1261 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: Mike Rabel told the Tennessee and I can't comment on 1262 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 1: idaiah Um. He said that I wouldn't even begin to 1263 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 1: be able to eloquently have an answer for you. So 1264 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 1: clearly things are not going well. They're pissed. There's they're 1265 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 1: epically pissed because I think if you read between the 1266 01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: lines and it's not hard, he's making them look really bad. Yeah, 1267 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, if they failed in the evaluation, and now 1268 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 1: this guy is essentially stealing money from the team, and 1269 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 1: that reflects directly on the people that were responsible for 1270 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 1: bringing him into the building the first time he got Corona, 1271 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean, is attached to the fact the police had 1272 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: to break up an off campus party at Tennessee State 1273 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 1: University where he was frolicking around, um, you know, untethered 1274 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 1: during training and Isaiah at night right, And like John 1275 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 1: Robinson mentioned, you know, they loved him. They did love 1276 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 1: him in the pre draft process. And that's an old 1277 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 1: HR thing. Um, when an employee goes south, where is 1278 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 1: the person I interviewed? And that's what they're saying. This 1279 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 1: is not the human being we thought we'd get. John 1280 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 1: Robinson said he was impressed with um even his laugh 1281 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 1: that he laughed like Andre the giants during the all 1282 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 1: the research part of this. But I think that what 1283 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 1: is that? Why? Why would that make him more draftable? 1284 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: That was I mean, he laughs like a gigantic giant laugh. 1285 01:07:54,920 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 1: If you don't know, like jose West Rivera, if we're 1286 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 1: not at this point, I mean I feel anymore. I 1287 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 1: feel like I you know, I used to be in 1288 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 1: a hiring position. I made some some bad hires, even 1289 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 1: as you know, as a group we've made some we 1290 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 1: made a what are you saying what we don't need it, Greg, 1291 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 1: We don't need it right now for the float right now? Greg? Uh. 1292 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 1: Finally the news. Yes, Taylor Heineke speaking of having one 1293 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 1: game and a change the quarterbacks, changing how go away, Ricky, 1294 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 1: changing how things um and how your portrayed. Heineke went 1295 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 1: from a practice squad quarterback in December to a guy 1296 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 1: that was slinging it throw for throw with Tom Brady 1297 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 1: and the wild card round of the playoffs for the 1298 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,439 Speaker 1: Washington football team. The team lost that game, of course, 1299 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,599 Speaker 1: but it led to Heineke signing a two year, eight 1300 01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 1: point seven five million dollar contract. Just five r K 1301 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 1: is guaranteed, So it doesn't mean that Washington paid out 1302 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,720 Speaker 1: the butt uh for this guy off one game. But 1303 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,200 Speaker 1: it does show you, but spilled with one to there, 1304 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 1: that sometimes one big game can change your life and 1305 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 1: it might have done that for Taylor Heinecky. Yeah, they might. 1306 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,719 Speaker 1: They might have to cut Alex Smith, which is awkward 1307 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 1: because I think if Alex Smith wants to continuous career, 1308 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, might not be there. But it is amazing 1309 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 1: if you think about the Bowls of Son stand to 1310 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 1: circle it all the way back around. Bowls faced four 1311 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the playoffs, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, 1312 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,759 Speaker 1: and Taylor Heineke. Unquestionably the best performance came from Heineke. 1313 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,719 Speaker 1: It wasn't even it wasn't even close. He was really 1314 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 1: good in that game. That the diving touchdown that he 1315 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 1: had briefly made you think Washington col do something insane 1316 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 1: in that game. Um, and he played. He was nails 1317 01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 1: in that game. I mean that's the kind of game. Sorry, 1318 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 1: I keep cutting you all, damn it. I was reading 1319 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 1: this like crazy article and now I'm taking us down 1320 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 1: a rabbit hole. But you're going to come into the 1321 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 1: rabbit hole with me. That I went done this morning, um, 1322 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: reading about Heineke, of dreading about this game that he 1323 01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 1: had at Old Dominion where he threw for seven hundred 1324 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 1: and thirty yards. Did you guys know this? Because I 1325 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 1: did not know? And I end up doing all these 1326 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 1: like dumb deep dives on prospects around combine time and 1327 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 1: draft and this I did not know. He in that 1328 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 1: game he had like seventy nine attempts, which is just wild. 1329 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,680 Speaker 1: Seven thirty yards. How about we see that. This is 1330 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 1: why why some people, oh, why don't you watch college football? 1331 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 1: That's why I don't watch college football. I mean, when 1332 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,680 Speaker 1: you're you're playing, it's like, oh yeah, Penn State is 1333 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: playing in our Lady of the Worthless Miracle. Um, you 1334 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 1: know on Saturday afternoon. It's like what, like, who cares? 1335 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,640 Speaker 1: You play half your schedules against teams that are at 1336 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,320 Speaker 1: your level? And then everything's just like big money grab 1337 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 1: playing these smaller schools and it's just like a total slaughter. 1338 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why think Old Dominion is taking you 1339 01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: off their mailing list as of as of today, Dan, 1340 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,839 Speaker 1: and some people ask like, why are Colleen's binders so full? 1341 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 1: It's because of information like that, you know exactly? All right? 1342 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:20,719 Speaker 1: Um kay want short a J. Bouwier and uh Boyer 1343 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 1: and Tybrolle Williams among the early cuts for veterans as 1344 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 1: we head towards the start of a new league, yeard 1345 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,800 Speaker 1: and a salary cap that uh it will be less. 1346 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's official yet. I think around 1347 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,719 Speaker 1: a hundred eighty million, that's what they were saying. Um, 1348 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 1: and there will be more veterans that end up on 1349 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,639 Speaker 1: the chopping block here as teams try to get under 1350 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:47,160 Speaker 1: the cap and reset for all right, no wes, there's 1351 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: a new phase for the show. Really sad um, But 1352 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:54,080 Speaker 1: we're just going on and talking, talking ball and doing 1353 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 1: what we do. But please, please please, the go fund 1354 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 1: me um with everything, every every cent collected by the 1355 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 1: go fund me goes to Lakisha and Lincoln and unbelievably 1356 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,599 Speaker 1: and thank you by the way to Greeby, who's one 1357 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 1: of our Matthew Graver who who um organized this and 1358 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 1: was in direct contact with Lakisha when West was battling 1359 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 1: cancer for the second time, uh, setting this up. And 1360 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 1: he also has done great great work on the subreddit 1361 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,640 Speaker 1: bringing fans together over there. He organized this and it 1362 01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 1: is closing in on two sixty thousand dollars raised by 1363 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 1: people who love the West and are trying to support 1364 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:45,640 Speaker 1: his family in this um really difficult time. Over UM 1365 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 1: five and a half thousand donors and uh yeah, over 1366 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,800 Speaker 1: a quarter million dollars raised for Lakisha and Link and 1367 01:12:53,920 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: that is awesome. Keep it up. Let's go five under it, 1368 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 1: Let's go half a mill Why not? I was thinking 1369 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 1: we should have like a roast maybe. I was originally 1370 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,480 Speaker 1: thinking to just be a roast of Dan Hansas Um 1371 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,639 Speaker 1: that goes to this like West fund Um, but then 1372 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 1: I thought maybe we should open it up to everybody 1373 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,120 Speaker 1: else and then maybe the listeners get involved. So I'm 1374 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 1: just fitballing right now live and just figured to throw 1375 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 1: it out there. I like that a lot. Yeah, yeah, 1376 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,719 Speaker 1: I would participate. I I feel like you guys would, 1377 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,559 Speaker 1: and um, I don't know. I don't know if I'm 1378 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,360 Speaker 1: really like I would be good at that. I don't 1379 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 1: know if I would handle that well. I think, Colleen, 1380 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,320 Speaker 1: you have a way better temperament for being roasted, so 1381 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,280 Speaker 1: I think maybe the roast should be towards you. You 1382 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,519 Speaker 1: get that like look from Dan, like twenty minutes in 1383 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 1: where he's like not as pleasant to be there as 1384 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,680 Speaker 1: he thought, and not enjoying some of the slights, not 1385 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 1: sure if they're real or not. So this was exactly 1386 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 1: my thinking because originally I was like, it should definitely 1387 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,559 Speaker 1: be a roast of Dan, and then I was like, mm, 1388 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if Dan would be good with that, 1389 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 1: but Greg definitely would be able to handle it, so 1390 01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 1: let's definitely open it up to Greg. And I was like, 1391 01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 1: but then there's so much material with Mark too and Rick, 1392 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 1: so it should just be everybody get real, to get 1393 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 1: very real. Um all right. So that's that's one idea 1394 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, we're gonna continue to like figure 1395 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:20,959 Speaker 1: out and exactly not in a milliona years um uh 1396 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,920 Speaker 1: to you know, of course remember Wes and uh we will. 1397 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,880 Speaker 1: We haven't started putting it together yet, but it's definitely 1398 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,720 Speaker 1: something we are um going to do. We're going to 1399 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 1: have a kind of a separate show from the standard 1400 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 1: podcast week where we'll be remembering West in our favorite 1401 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,839 Speaker 1: moments um with West uh during the you know thousand 1402 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 1: plus episodes over the years, and we'll do you know 1403 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 1: kind of talks talk about um talk about him and 1404 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 1: then play some clips that that's coming down the line. 1405 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:52,800 Speaker 1: And I think that could end up being something we 1406 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:58,599 Speaker 1: do on an annual basis, because, like Greg said, West 1407 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,640 Speaker 1: is gone here um uh in from this earth, but 1408 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 1: he's his spirit is with the show and with everyone 1409 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 1: that loved and cared about him, both personally and family 1410 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:15,200 Speaker 1: and friends and also the listeners. So that's it. Um. 1411 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: Any final thoughts, Colleen, great work here. You've done it 1412 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,000 Speaker 1: again and you've said it all thank you. I guess 1413 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 1: there's nothing left for me to say then if I've 1414 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 1: said it all, and I did, like every time every 1415 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 1: time you accidentally stepped on Mark, I think was really 1416 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,720 Speaker 1: a professional of the time. Sorry. Mark, We're gonna get 1417 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 1: better at this. It's this is the way it is. 1418 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I would say, at least we're offering a 1419 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 1: little bit less of a devastating time delay than you 1420 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,240 Speaker 1: had to deal with on most of your TNF broadcast 1421 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: show I did besides this one, when the few times 1422 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 1: that I was on the podcast during the season were 1423 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 1: the only times that I was doing a show that 1424 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,880 Speaker 1: did not have at least a three to five second delay. 1425 01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 1: So it is really such a joy to talk to 1426 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 1: people without like laughing all over dump jokes that happened 1427 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes ago. And I do that anyway. But still, 1428 01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,679 Speaker 1: this was this is really really nice. So it's great. Yeah, 1429 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 1: you really lost a lot of like the Michael Irvin 1430 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,680 Speaker 1: has like a piece of cracker on the corner of 1431 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,080 Speaker 1: his mouth humor with that delay. You know, he just 1432 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 1: I need this pandemic to end. It took an hour 1433 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 1: and sixteen minutes, but it finally got the time delay 1434 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 1: talk that the listeners really they were looking for. Um. 1435 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back on Friday, so please come 1436 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,040 Speaker 1: on back. And yes, as I said, the go fund 1437 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: me is out there. Um, it's pinned to top my 1438 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,280 Speaker 1: Twitter page and I'm sure all the everyone else on 1439 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,040 Speaker 1: the show has been plugging that so you can find 1440 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,639 Speaker 1: it anywhere. Um uh and uh we love you when 1441 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,280 Speaker 1: we miss you, wes. Um, all right, this is it. 1442 01:16:55,680 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 1: Dan has a signing off four Quiet Storm, the Old Boss, 1443 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 1: the Tiny Box, trapped in a tiny box within a 1444 01:17:04,400 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: tiny box, so many boxes, and Ricky Hollywood until Friday, 1445 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,520 Speaker 1: and has others