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Please players 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: eighteen years older to purchase player Plan. Welcome to money 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: making Conversation. I'm your host for Sean McDonald each Money 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: Making Conversations talk shows about entrepreneurship and entertainment. I provide 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: the consumer and business owner access to celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: and industry decision makers. I recognize that we all have 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: different differinitions of success. For some, it's a sizable paycheck. 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: Mine is helping people wake up and inspiring them to 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: accomplish their goals and live their very best life. These 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: are my passion and that's what I'm going to do 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: for you. I want you to stop tripping over small 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: challenges and prepared to rise above the bigger obstacles of life. 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: It's going to present to you the Money Making Conversation 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: interviews provide relatable information to the listener about career and 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, overcome the arts, and how 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: to live a balanced life. My next guest, she's here. 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: She's based in Atlanta. She's an award winning chef, TV personality, 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: owners slash chef of Twisted Soul, cook House and pores 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: A Different kind of Chick which is a new chicken 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: pop up concept and Chicken. I say Chicken, Chicken, cook 38 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: cook Chicken Chicken pop up concept in the letter. She's 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: been featured on the Food Network, Travel Channel, The New 40 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: York Times, Huffingtan posts and BuzzFeed. BuzzFeed you never got 41 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: a little fast desarch about thirty seconds you cook up 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: the world. Please welcome to UH Money Making Conversation. Chef 43 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Deborah f Treats. Thank you so much for that introduction. Well, 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: first of all, I didn't make anything up, you know, 45 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of having a career and being 46 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: recognized for your talents. How do you feel about it 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: and where you at right now? We're gonna get to 48 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: the restaurants and the pop ups, and this about when 49 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: I bring people on Money Making Conversation Always, it's always 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: a journey because a lot of times when you come 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: on my show, we're just talking about the end results, 52 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: and we all know that even we were talking about 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: their results, they're still goals in place to make that 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: even bigger. But but as you speak of being a 55 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: featured on in The New York Times and Hufftan Poach, 56 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: which is a big digital imprint for magazines and online 57 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: UH concepts and buzz Feats which is also video driven, 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: and Travel Channel which you know that's TV. We know, 59 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: the Food Networks TV. How does that do it? What 60 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: does that do for your brand? And how has it 61 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: allowed your brand to be uh recognized throughout the world. UM. 62 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's um immeasurable, you know, the now 63 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: the positive impact that it's had on brands. UM, you 64 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: know it. You know it was a text of textbook 65 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: way to have done that. UM. Some things just kind 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: of fell in the right places at the right time. UM. 67 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: And I took advantage of all the opportunities that were 68 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: presented to me. UM, seeing the big picture of this 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: marketing that you know I was getting, and you know, 70 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: being able to development. UM. You know a brand that 71 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: was recognizable worldwide, and that's really important. I like what 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: you said. You said, you know, sometimes you just gotta 73 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: be ready to pivot when the opportunity presents itself, because 74 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: we can't plan. Somebody calling you said, well, you make 75 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: an appearance on the Food Network and you can't sometimes 76 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: say I don't know, let me check my calendar. You 77 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: have to say yes. And because these appearances, somebody's you know, 78 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: if they call you, somebody is ready to say yes. 79 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: If you say let me, let me check, or they say, uh, 80 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, well all this what what do you 81 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: want me to do? Even even the tone you may 82 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: ask the questions could could lose you the opportunity to 83 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: make an appearance on the network. What you know is 84 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: what you're using your resumes to be able to get 85 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: other opportunities. It really becomes a blessing. You gotta you 86 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: gotta not look at it as a as a as 87 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: a difficult moment or a conflicting moment. You have to say, 88 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: how can I do it and make it happen? That's 89 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 1: really what this is all about, right, That is really 90 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: exactly what it is. It's like I have always gone 91 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: with I'm going just say yes and I will figure 92 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: out how I'm going to do it. But you know, 93 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: the opportunity when it's there, you have to grab it 94 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: because it's, as you just said, now, they're really keeps 95 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: going um and somebody else will graph at that opportunity. 96 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: So um. You know I I always look to see, Okay, 97 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: what how does this help me build my brand? What 98 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: what positive impact is it going to have on it? 99 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say yes now and we'll figure out 100 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: the details of it later. Yeah, I want people to 101 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: hear that, because some things are not always uh you know, well, 102 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: let me plan it out a month in advance. You well, 103 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: when you get reached a certain level of notoriety, yes 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: you can think about it. Let me check my calendar. 105 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: But when you are under the hustle of getting your 106 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: brand recognized, getting your brand word of mouth created, word 107 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: of mouth within the industry, you gotta ride with the 108 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: opportunity that's given to you. And sometimes it might not 109 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: be what you want to do, but you make it 110 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: work for what you want, what you needed to do, 111 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: and that is positive expo you for your brand. Now 112 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: here's something interest. When I was going through your bio, 113 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: said protest barking on her culinary career more than twenty 114 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: years ago, Mrs Van Trees was a flight attendant for 115 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: American Airlines. And the reason I wanted to bring that 116 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: up because you know, you're a chef and I've traveled 117 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: a lot, which allows me to eat a lot of 118 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: good food and different cultures and things like that. He said. 119 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Throughout your your destination with throughout Europe, Latin America, the 120 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: Middle East, and Southeast Asia. What effect did all this 121 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: travel have on your cooking? Style or or your culinary 122 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: style today. UM it is you know, actually what makes 123 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: my my cuisine a little bit different? UM. I tell 124 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: people my cuisine is telling a story, and my story UM. 125 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: And so you know you need to be able, you know, 126 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: to you know, think outside of the box. I did 127 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: not want to be like everybody else. UM. And so 128 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: I can find all of those travels, um, and I 129 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: put them together to you know, come up with a 130 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: cuisine that I call globally inspired UM soul food. UM. 131 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I looked at different cultures and the 132 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: foods that were considered a regular or comfort food m 133 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: of those cultures and brought it back and kind of 134 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, put it with my UM, African American culture 135 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: of soul food. And that the dishes that I come 136 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: up with a combination of all those travels and of 137 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: my upbring Well, it's really funny because I'm gonna get 138 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: to your definition of so food because I want to 139 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: ask you that. But I was reading nearby, say, in Russia, 140 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: French fries are more coveted than caviarve the fresh fry 141 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: man I love so so it basically you go to France, 142 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: they look at you and talking about French fries. They 143 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: look at you like, huh, you go to Russia, you 144 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: talk about French fries, they go where And it allows 145 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: for you, it's allows to us to see those different 146 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 1: cultures and how they react. And then you say soul food, 147 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: I have to ask you, chef, Chef Debra, what is 148 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: so food? Um? You know, I think it means different 149 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: things to different people. UM. For me, it is food 150 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: that comes from the soul. And when I say that, 151 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like it's the food that is 152 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: cooked from love. Um. The food that evokes memories. UM. 153 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: The food that you know, reminds us of where we 154 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: came from. Um. Now, and those are the foods that 155 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: touch our hearts, they touch our souls. So that is 156 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: what soul food is. Okay. So now when I look 157 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: at the so food, because it's very popular, you know, 158 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: when you get to UH, when you get to certain 159 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: places they're calling southern delicacies and then you gets call 160 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: it soul food. UM. In the African American community, when 161 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: I look at yams and yams at h on a 162 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: southern restaurant, it's the same that type of yams I 163 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: have at a soul food restauran run or sometimes the 164 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: greens are different. You know, you put a little ham 165 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: or ham hops in your collar greens to give it 166 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: that flavor. Some people, now we have vegans, they don't 167 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: want meet and so they have the red beans without 168 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: the sausage. And so there's so many different people, so 169 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: many different palates that we are playing and we're dancing 170 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: around nowadays, how do you find a menu that are 171 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: you trying to find a menu that works for the 172 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: masses or trying to find a menu that will draw 173 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: the masses to your your place of business? How does 174 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: that menu develop and work? Um, it's it's a menu 175 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: that Um, it's interesting. I don't want to do what 176 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: everybody else is doing. I don't want you to experience, 177 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: you know something, I want you to have the experience 178 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: with me that you're not going to find that's true 179 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: somewhere else. That's true. And even though we might be 180 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: saying the same thing, right, even though we might be 181 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: doing the same chicken, the chicken experience is different. And 182 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: you see that with hamburgers. You know, you have five guys, Rutgers, McDonald's, Wendy's. 183 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: Everyone is trying to draw based on the experience that 184 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: you would get at their establishment. And that's what you're doing, 185 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: is you two places of business continue exactly. So you know, 186 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: even if we look at the traditional African Americans, UM, 187 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: soul food by definition, going from region to regions, it's different, 188 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's more combined, you know, with 189 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: with food than you know, just a recipe. You know, 190 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: it's a whole story behind it. And so it's in 191 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: developing my menu, I'm trying to tell stories, you know. 192 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: I want you to ask me, um, how did I 193 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: come up with this dish? Um? I want to listen 194 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: to you tell me stories, you know about what is 195 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: comforting to you? What is soul food to you? Um? 196 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,479 Speaker 1: And I want to go and I want to interpret 197 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: it in my way. Um. And I think that what 198 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: set me apart from other restaurants tours, which is important, 199 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, to find my own little niche now and 200 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: my own brain and established it. So those are the 201 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: that's the process that I go through when I'm trying 202 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,239 Speaker 1: to develop a menu. You know, I wanted to be interesting, 203 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to be diverse, um, and I wanted to 204 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: have a story behind it that touches my heart. Awesome, 205 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: here's the question before we go to the next spreak 206 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: because of the next break. I want to talk about 207 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: your two restaurants, especially the pop up restaurant Chicken Restaurant 208 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: that you have in Atlanta that launched this month. Um, 209 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: what did your skill? Did you go to schools to 210 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: develop your skills? They just natural talk about The training 211 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: is tied to your skills as a cheft. Um. It's 212 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: a combination. You know. I grew up um with a 213 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: family of great cooks. UM. I grew up in the Midwest. UM. 214 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: And then I had a father and grandfather that were 215 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, big bark two teams. So I grew up 216 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: learning how the Um. Kansas City. I thought, you're gonna say, 217 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: Kansas City, that's that's barbecue town right there, exactly exactly. 218 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: And it's like every chance I can, I'm barbecuing something 219 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: up to putting it on the menu. UM. And then 220 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: I did go to culinary school, UM, you know, and 221 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: that traveling. So at one point I was married to 222 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: a basketball player who played overseas UM. And it gave 223 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: me the opportunity to live in that culture and absorb 224 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: it and going to people's homes, not just restaurants. So 225 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: it's a different experience, you know. So all of that 226 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: combined is the training that I have that's gotten me 227 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: to the place that I am today. It's created your 228 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: voice for the food that you make, which is really important. 229 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking to the amazing like a culinary traveler. I 230 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: was like culinary traveler. 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That's O T T 273 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: E R dot Ai. Hi. You're listening to Rushan McDonald 274 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: and this is money making conversations on the phone. I 275 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: have a chef, Deborah band treats uh. She is um 276 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: a chef extraordinare travel the world picked up. A talent's 277 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: going into homes, eating in restaurants places like Middle East, 278 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: the Middle East, Southeast Asia, Latin America, Europe. But she's 279 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: on the show to talk about She's based in Atlanta 280 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: and she's on the show to talk about a couple 281 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: of restaurants wants to pop up once an established place 282 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: called Twisted Soul cook House and pores. I'm assuming pores 283 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: means liquor or pores means something else there chef poors 284 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: me liquor, right assumption? Right good, Let's talk about that 285 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: at first. Let's talk twisted sold cook house, cook house. 286 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: It sounds like barbecue. That sounds like some some heat 287 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: being generated in this building. Cook house and pours. Talk 288 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: about that that that place of business. Uh well it's 289 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: it's uh a warm gathering spot, us, a warm gathering spot. Um. 290 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: Of you know, it's a great location in west midtown 291 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: here in Atlanta. UM. You know, I have a very 292 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: diverse clientele, very diverse group of cooks and professionals working. UM. 293 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: We're very big on customers service and we UM we 294 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: love to serve your good food. UM. We use sustainable products, 295 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: we UM utilize the local farmers UM as much as 296 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: we possibly can in our cooking. I mean you change 297 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: this seasonally. UM. You know, we just we have a 298 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: of time with what we do. We've been there. I 299 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: think we're in our fourth year of business. Thank you, 300 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: thank you. Things are going good. UM, you know, and 301 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: and you know now we're finding you know, this this 302 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: new world that we're trying to navigate. You know, but 303 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: we talked about that part later, right, we don't do 304 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: anything about it. Let's talk about the new world a 305 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: little bit. I don't you know, because I have a nephew. 306 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: He has a he has like a roadside stand type 307 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: restaurant on the in Houston, Texas, and he was really 308 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: ahead of the game with door Dash and uh uh 309 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: we eats and uh I think um one more after 310 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: I apologize for not being said, but and it really 311 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: so his business really was not affected by the pandemic, 312 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: and so because of the fact that he'd already focused. 313 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: And then he told me that I was talking to 314 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: him the other day and he was saying that a 315 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: lot of businesses are trying to get into that the 316 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: door Dashes and the uber Eats of the world, and 317 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: they can't grow up Hub. That's the other one. Grew 318 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: up Hub because the fact that it's starting to get 319 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: backlogged and they can't hand the amount of applications to 320 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: being made. And then people don't know how to process 321 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: works and can cannot you know, uh because their fees 322 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: tied to everything that you do. These are none of 323 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: these services are free. And so that's one of the 324 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: things that not only African American business but business in 325 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: general have learned that they have to change their whole 326 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: platform instead of being just a stand alone building that 327 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: you come in and you process if you while you eat. 328 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: That did that affect your your cook house, your cook 329 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: house and poors facility? Major? Um? It literally you know, 330 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: were we saw a maybe six dropping sales immediately um, 331 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: and quickly made the decision, you know, we needed to 332 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: close the doors and rethink this. Um. We weren't utilizing 333 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: any of the delivery services now. So it wasn't as 334 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: if we could just switch over um to that and 335 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: then to be quite honest that the fees that they 336 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: were charging were just ridiculous. Um, it wasn't would not 337 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: have been so bad if we you know, we're balancing 338 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: that you know, prior with the restaurant actual in house 339 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: covers and then you know, your few takeout orders here 340 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: and there. Um. But we were just really in house, 341 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, and never ever had a need um to 342 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: utilize the service because most of the people coming to 343 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: Twisted so are coming there for that warm, fuzzy environment 344 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: that coming to have a good time at a gathering. Um. 345 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: Real quickly, we did do the scramble initially to you know, 346 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: try to get the grub hubs uber eat you know, 347 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: but with all that was going on, we also felt 348 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: like we had to lower our pricing structure and lower 349 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: the pricing structure and then give pots of of it 350 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: away to a service which now was going to be 351 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: handling the predominant amount of your business. Um. It just 352 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: was not a plan that was going to work for us, 353 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: you know. So initially, UM, we slipped to a concept 354 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: of doing pre prepared meals for people to take away 355 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: and having our service staff turned them into delivery people. Um. 356 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: It was actually a little bit more efficient because at 357 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: the point when all this was happening, you know, the 358 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 1: big companies did get flooded, and you know they were 359 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: taking two hours and three hours to get people food. UM. 360 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: You know, so that worked for us as a temporary. 361 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: UM solution was to just have our our own people 362 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: doing our delivery. But on a broad scale, that's not 363 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: what we do, you know. So uh we knew, really, 364 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: you know, this is not something that's gonna sustain us 365 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: for very long. UM, So we had to come up 366 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: with a better solution than that. And that better solution 367 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: is what the better solution was, or is the pop 368 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: up concept that transition I just transition you to a 369 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: shift that's all just just sliding over to the to 370 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: the better solution is the pop up chick place, different 371 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: kind better solution. It was the thing that I had 372 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: been thinking about for years. Um. You know, so the 373 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: concept was already there was very clear in my head. Um, 374 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: and it was something I foresaw, you know, us join 375 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: in the future. UM. You know, well, you know the 376 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: future was here, you know it. You've got to make 377 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: some changes. Um. You have to be able to sustain 378 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: yourself to move forward to ever do twisted soul. You know, 379 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: our teeth twisted soul a lot. You've got to right 380 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: down through something that's going to sustain um. And the 381 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: concept of a different kind of chick um was what 382 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: we decided to put in effect immediately. UM. You know 383 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: it was more conducive, or is more conducive um for 384 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: carry out, it's more conducive for delivery. Um. The price 385 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: point could be lower because now we're we're trying to 386 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: go with volume. UM. And the most important thing about 387 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: it was, you know, we were doing chicken that was 388 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, free range, you know, certified organic food again 389 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: still with our farm dis tabled vegetables. You know, so 390 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: it's kind of a way that we're starting to happen 391 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: in the food industry. Anyway, we just jumped on it 392 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: real quick, which is very small, Which is very small. Yeah, 393 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: and that's all. That's all I just said about my nephew. 394 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: You know, he had been doing it prior to the 395 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: because you have to make an adjustment in your menu 396 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: prices when you bring on these grub hubs and these 397 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: door dashes and it's ober eats. Because he had already 398 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: been doing it, and I was a major justment in 399 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: the pricing for these customers. I had already been in 400 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: place then, when nobody was stunned by because he didn't 401 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: have to make the switch. But like you said, new 402 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: customers like you, they go to those services go wow, 403 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: really I gotta pay this, Well, I'm an charge for this. 404 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: And so this concept that you have now a different 405 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: kind of chick something you had in the back of 406 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: your mind, there's not been moving to the front of 407 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: your mine. And it is proven to be the profitable 408 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: way for you to make business in this in this 409 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: new world that we live in today. Correct, Yes, exactly, 410 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that business. Come on, let's talk about 411 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: let's just get fire up here, because I don't want to, 412 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want this to become a down 413 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm trying to make it Rashwan, I'm 414 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get there. What exactly is a pop up? Though, 415 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: you know we hear that term a lot, What is 416 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: a pop up? U? Pop up is generally something that is, 417 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: you know, coming up temporarily. It's something you're doing for 418 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: that moment. It's like, our pop up is just gonna 419 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: be a long term one, you know. Um, And what 420 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: the plan is is one thing stabilized and we can 421 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: actually you know, get back to the restaurant as we 422 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: knew them, which is going to be a while. Um, 423 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: we'll be able to continue with Twisted so cook House 424 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: in that location that we're in presently and then transition 425 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: out a different kind of chick and put it permanently 426 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: in another location. Awesome. Awesome, Well, let's talk about this 427 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: firm goal. Let's talk about this menu. Because the menu 428 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: involves fried chicken. And I'm from Houston, Texas. I'm living 429 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: in Lata, but i am a fried chicken food. I 430 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: love me some good fried chicken. And so the create 431 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: you have a creative menu featuring four different types of 432 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: chicken dishes. Let's talk about those chicken dishes that is 433 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: available at the at A different kind of chick is 434 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: a pop up that's in temporary locations around the city 435 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: of Atlanta. How do you notify people? She of Actually 436 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: social media. Social media has been incredible and um, you know, 437 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: we sent out a press release and the press jumped 438 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: on it quickly. Um. We've had several articles written already, 439 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, and on my show is to yeah, and 440 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, this is this is perfect, this is perfect. 441 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: You know, I think, Um, it was helpful to do 442 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: such a an extreme pivot and do it quickly. UM. 443 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: So you know it's something to people are paying it. 444 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: This is because we're all trying to figure out how 445 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: to maneuver um. You know. So this is you know, 446 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: one of the ways that you can possibly run maneuver um. 447 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: So we've got the four types of main entree chickens. 448 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: Uh fried chicken was a staple is actually the same 449 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: dish that we have on our original Twisted Goal Um 450 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: cook house menu, Um, except for now you get one 451 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: extra piece of chicken and it's a little bit less expensive. Um. 452 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: It comes with the incredible side that you get to choose. Okay, 453 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: let's talk about those sides, because those sides are to 454 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: a good bill. Talk about those sides. Now, let's go 455 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: past the chicken. Is the is, the is the briger 456 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: to the table. But it's the size that makes you 457 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: sit there and savor at the moment. Come on now, 458 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: exactly exactly, So your chicken is your big bird, and 459 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: what's your big birds? You get two sides. Okay, Um, 460 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: so you have a choice of a garlic mashed potato. Um. 461 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: You have raised greens, We have macaroni and cheese. We 462 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: have a brown rice tea loss that we have a 463 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: healthier option. And then we have so I take farm vegetables, 464 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: which changed weekly depending on what we what's available through 465 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: our local farmers. Brown rice. I've become such a big 466 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: fan of brown rice. Now you know, I'm a white 467 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: rice guy. Grew up for white rice on the thing 468 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: on my table. So I've resisted the whole you know, 469 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: brown rice world. And now when you say brown ricef 470 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: I have to try that because I love pelf rice period. 471 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: And when you say brown rice, that really that really 472 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: piques my interest on exactly what that is is the 473 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: taste of that because that sounds sounds good and original. 474 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: That's the whole portion you was talking about your whole 475 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: brand being very creative and coming up with creative menus 476 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, we all, like said, 477 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: everybody's selling chicken out there. What makes your chicken different? 478 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: What makes your service different? But and I'm assuming that 479 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: service plays a big role in your brand anyway, correct, 480 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: definitely plays a big role. UM. And then sourcing where 481 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: we're getting our foods from, UM, and we are paying 482 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: attention to the trends UM. You know in our customers 483 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: that they want to know where their food is sourced from. 484 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: They want to know that their vegetables are fresh, that 485 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: I hand pick the chicken that I would use. They 486 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: want to know those things, and those are the things 487 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: that we're playing upon UM, you know, and I think 488 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: those are the things that makes this this pop up 489 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: work well. First of all, tell us how we can 490 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: go to your social media, so that's how we can 491 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: find out about to pop up. I definitely want you 492 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: to send a banner to me so I can post 493 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: it on my social media. I really want to support businesses. 494 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: I want to give it's free as an avenue that 495 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: I've created to be able to bring exposure to these 496 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: any for the small businesses. You know, they can say 497 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: the state's reopening, but it's not reopening, especially when it 498 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: comes to this social distancing. So we have to be small. 499 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: So give us some our ways that we can reach 500 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: out and follow you so we can, you know, make 501 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: our way to one of these pop ups. Uh definitely, 502 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: um our website put us so cook House and boards 503 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: dot com. We're on Instagram and tust this so cook 504 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: House or follow me on Instagram at Debra at Chef 505 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: Debra van Street. UM and we're always posted Facebook, you 506 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: know you name it social media, we're on there. Well, 507 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you something. It's fantastic to hear from you. 508 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking your time to come on 509 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: the show. But more importantly, we will support you through 510 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: our social media, through our newsletters, because as a family 511 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: is how we're gonna get through this. As a family 512 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: is how we're gonna win this. We know how this 513 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: pandemic is over overtly affecting overly affected I should say, 514 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: African Americans in our communities around the world, especially in 515 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: this country. More importantly, thank you for coming on my show. 516 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: Chef Debora Van Trees. Thank you so much for having 517 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: me on the show. It's really important that we do 518 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: support each other. And I so so appreciate being able 519 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: to speak to your audience today. Oh they're gonna respond. 520 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: Believe in may every time I post. But I'm a foodie. 521 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: Go to my social media at Rishaw McDonald on my 522 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: Facebook page. You see when I talk about food, my 523 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: fans love me. And so this is a restaurant we're 524 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: gonna support. I'm asking some photos so we can put 525 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: feature in Rashaan Eats and so we can build this 526 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: brain out so you can wiel big so you can 527 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: win big time. Is that cool? Thank you so much. 528 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: I will take that awesome. Awesome. If you want to 529 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: hear more interviews money Making Conversation interviews, please go to 530 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation dot com. Ra Sean McDonald. 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