1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Lots to get through as Gilead's drug is cleared for 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: emergency use by the f d A. This according to 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: President Trump, the drug has shown positive results in helping 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: hospitalized patients recover more quickly, and President Trump's told President 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: Trump told reporters at the White House earlier today that 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: the anti viral drug has been cleared by US regulators 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: for the emergency use and COVID nineteen patients. So does 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: that mean that the private sector and the and the 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: government are working together. That's my first question to Congressman 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Chip Roy, his first time on the program. I'm so 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: incredibly grateful to have him, the Republican from Texas, the 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: twenty one district in Texas. Congressman Roy, thank you so 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: much for coming on. We used to interact way back 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: in the day, during your time when you were working 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: for UH then presidential candidate Rick Perry and then as 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: chief of staff to UH to UH Senator Ted Cruz, 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: So thank you for coming on. How what's what do 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: you when you heard the news from President Trump deregular 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: eating with the FDA to advance some new drugs. What 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: were your what was your reaction? Well, first of all, 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: good to be on your show, and yeah, great interacting 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: back in the past. And I'm glad you have to 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: know anything, but uh but I really appreciate it. You 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: know that the FDA, getting the FDA out of out 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: of the way, frankly one of the things that I 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: think administration is doing quite well. You may remember from 27 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: our interaction when I was working for Governor Perry's presidential campaign. 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: I was fighting cancer and was using a trial drug 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: at the time that was uhtly proved for relaxed patients, 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: but you know, a new drug for new patients. And 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: so you know, I'm I'm a big believer in getting uh, 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, regulations out of the way and getting drugs 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: faster to the market. I think we had to do 34 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: that across the board. I think one of the things 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: that hopefully will come out of this experience and this 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: virus is how much a lot of these regulations, both 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: of the CDC with respect of testing, the FDA with 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: respected drugs, have been getting in the way of innovation. 39 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: I think gillyads got a drug here that's at least 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: worth working at rendessepphere and and other things that's working on. 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: And recall, gilly app was one of those companies that 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: was called before the Oversight Committee by Democrats last year 43 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: where they were being uh you know, beat up on 44 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: for profit making. Uh. You know, they've got one of 45 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: the big drugs that helps A patients and HIV patients. 46 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: So I'm glad to see that there's some movement out there. 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: Obviously there's no silver bullet right now. We need to 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: get our economy back up and running without waiting for 49 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: silver bullet. But the Lord willing all of these guys 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: will come up with a drug that will uh that 51 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: will uh have a vaccine for us. Let me ask 52 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: you one more follow up on this, Congressman Roy, you 53 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: having battled cancer, are you optimistic that one of the 54 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: legacies of this pandemic, Sir, is going to be that 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: the government can work better through the f d A 56 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: to get drugs that are that work into the market 57 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: to save Americans. Yeah, Look, I actually do. I think 58 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of momentum building for that. I've got 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: legislats on the House side that my former boss, Senator 60 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: Cruz has the Senator side going to the result back. 61 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: We would actually move things faster than the pipeline if 62 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: they've already been approved for example, in Europe or some 63 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: of our other uh you know, uh partner countries out 64 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: there and allies that it is out there and have 65 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: already advanced something we could move it through quickly. Uh. 66 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: Here in the United States, I think there are other 67 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: ways for us to get the fd out of the way, 68 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: working on some ways to kind of reverse the whole 69 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: presumptive the FDA they kind of get into the market 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: with your drugs and then have the have the FDA 71 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: have to come in and say why that drugs shouldn't 72 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: be allowed. Certainly has for being a right right to 73 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: try and those sorts of things. But I do believe 74 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: there's a wake up call, and I introduced legislations today. 75 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: We'll put out a statement on Monday for it, but 76 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: it was late today Friday. We got a file that 77 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: that would basically freeze in place and end all of 78 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: the regulations that have been getting on you know, undone 79 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: by the Trump administration. They've undone and ended four regulations 80 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: that's to spending them. And I want to freeze those 81 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: regulations and put them on the fast track to ending 82 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: and require a converse to have to come back and 83 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: vote specifically if they want any of those regulations to 84 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: come back in place. I think, well to use this 85 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: as an opportunity to clean the clean out for the 86 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: Congressmanship Roys on the line. He represents Texas twenty one district. 87 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: He's a Republican, he was you were also a congressman 88 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: one of I think it was like forty republic forty 89 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: representatives to vote against uh the coronavirus pandemic relief bill 90 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: that went through, and I guess it went through so fast, 91 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: and now there's all of these questions Congressman, and I 92 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: don't want to relitigate why you did it or whatnot 93 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: or and you know, listeners can decide whether or not 94 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: they agree with you. But there's all of this discussion 95 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: over businesses like the l A Lakers that took the 96 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: money they didn't need it, they had to give it back. 97 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: And I guess now that that's been decided, what how 98 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: what are you going to be doing with your colleagues 99 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: for oversight and to make sure that the actual businesses 100 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: on Main Street that need this money get it. Well, 101 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: it's a great question. You know four bills that have 102 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: moved through, really know three and a half. I guess 103 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: we would look at it I voted for two of them, 104 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to vote on the other one, 105 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: and I voted against one. I don't need to go 106 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: through and litigate at all, except that, uh, you know, 107 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: there there was an important need for us to provide 108 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: funding for small businesses. You have had, through the force 109 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: of government, their livelihoods taken away from them. I believe 110 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: I've dow this more like eminent domain in the taking 111 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: than I do a bailout or a stimulus bill. That 112 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: being said, most of these bills are chocked full of 113 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: all sorts of stupid ideas that are hamstringing businesses. For example, 114 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: I've got restaurants, and I've written about this in the 115 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal and otherwise. Restaurants here in the district 116 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: represent the heavy restaurant district. They are being told they've 117 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: got to go out and borrow money in order to 118 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, try to survive and then adhere to rules. 119 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: They got to go rehire people in order to you know, 120 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: get the benefits of these loans and the forgiveness of 121 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: the loans. But they but they can't rehire them because 122 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 1: we upped unemployment insurance so that people are getting paid 123 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: more not to work than to work. Those are the 124 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: kind of provisions which are asinine and turned the whole 125 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: thing on its head that we ought to fix. And 126 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: last week we went back. We should have fixed that. 127 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: We knew there are problems with it, but we didn't 128 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: get a chance to. Man it's get a chance to 129 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: do our job. And here we are, and we're gonna 130 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: not go back next week to do our job. Congress 131 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: is supposed to be. We're supposed to debate, we're supposed 132 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: to deliberate, amend, and vote. And Anti belows he's not 133 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: calling the house back. And it's travesty because we have 134 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: a lot of work left to do to oversee the 135 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: two trillion dollars plause almost three trillion that we've been 136 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: thrown out there into the economy. Some of it good, 137 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: some of it bad. Let's clamp down on it, make 138 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: sure it's being spent appropriately, try to minimize the damage, 139 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: and let's get the dag on economy back through the 140 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: right policies rather frow money to the to the wind. 141 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: The congressmanship or I mean, when I was talking to 142 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: the business community and all about a month ago and 143 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: all of this was going down, so many people in 144 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: the business sector We're infuriated because they had to furlough 145 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: people and because they were sure if they were even 146 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: gonna get economic relief. I mean that when people in 147 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: the business community on Main Street are frustrated with Washington, 148 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: this is the perfect illustration for why. But I got 149 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: to ask you one more question, because they only have 150 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: ninety sevens left, and I want to talk about the 151 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: energy sector in particular. I know this is important to 152 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: your district. Are you disappointed with Saudi Arabia? Are you 153 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: disappointed with how the Saudis have finangled in all of 154 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: this and what can be done to correct course. Yeah, 155 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: Let's make no mistake about it. We've got the energy 156 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: independence that has been building on the back of the 157 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: tracking and natural gas boom in Texas, which is lowered 158 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: CEO two production around the world and created energy independence 159 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: gets now on the shopping block. These companies are getting 160 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed and they're the backbone of our energy independence. 161 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabian Russia taken advantage of it. They knew what 162 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: they were doing. They're flooding the market with oil. The 163 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: President is pushing back on it, but we already even 164 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: more aggressive, and frankly, we've got to do our part 165 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: now to make sure these companies stay of float through 166 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: the programs have already you know, put out there, but 167 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: importantly get our economy started against so that oil and 168 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: gas can flow. These companies are critical to our energy independence, 169 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: which has national security implications, environmental implications, and of course 170 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: and obviously economic implications. Congressmanship, Roy Republican from Texas representing 171 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Texas twenty one, thank you so much. Come back on 172 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: because I didn't have enough time to ask you about 173 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: the important work you're doing for veterans by partisan work 174 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: that you're doing for veterans. More. Next, Billy Martin the third, 175 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: trying to get alone to keep Martin's tavern alive. He 176 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: calls in. Next, I'm Kevin Sirelli. You're listening to Bloomberg. 177 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. Sound on with Kevin Sirelate on 178 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg and one oh five point seven f M h 179 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: D two. I'm Kevin SURREALI Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg 180 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: Television and for Bloomberg Radio. It's Friday, folks. We made 181 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: it through another week on Friday, and what are you 182 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: doing this week? Hopefully you're ordering some take out from 183 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: all of the incredible restaurants in our area, and one 184 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: of my favorites is Martin's Tavern, Billy Martin's Tavern that 185 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: was established in nineteen thirty three. I actually did a 186 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: long walk through Georgetown the other night earlier this week 187 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: because I found out that Martin's was in Curbside, and 188 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: I was a little bit disappointed that I couldn't get 189 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: their famous fried green tomatoes. Just gonna be honest, Just 190 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: gonna be honest about the fried green tomatoes. They are 191 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: my favorite item on their menu. But I was incredibly 192 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: grateful for all of the hard work that the folks, 193 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: uh really the friends in our community and Martin's Tavern 194 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: have been doing. Uh. And I wanted to check in 195 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: with Billy Martin, the third who I've gotten to know 196 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: through through frequenting Martin's taverns. But Billy, thanks for calling in. 197 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing great, Kevin, thanks for having 198 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: me on today. You're welcome anytime. So what has it 199 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: been like as a small business owner in terms of 200 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: getting assistance and getting loans from the government. How you 201 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: make it out. We're not making out very well at all, Billy. 202 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: That's breaking my heart. On a Friday. That's not good news, Billy. 203 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: I was hoping you were gonna tell me what what 204 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: they were saying at bench Chili Bowl. What's going on, Billy? 205 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: What are they doing? Well, it's just been a very 206 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: difficult process, uh, to get through to any of the 207 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: loans we've applied for for a lot of the relief programs, 208 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: whether it's the p p P program, whether it's the 209 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: E I, D l U, even the mic DC microgrants. 210 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: So far, we haven't received name responses back from any 211 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: of them other than a couple of denials, uh. And 212 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: we're trying for a round two on the p p 213 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: P to see what we can come up with their. Billy, 214 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: has the Mayor's office been helpful? Well, the Mayor's office 215 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: is is you know, this whole thing is just a 216 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: difficult situation all the way around and very challenging for all. 217 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: The Mayor's Office is certainly working hard to try on 218 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: many levels to get this all sorted out. But you know, 219 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: there's it's just it's if there's other agencies that we 220 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: need help with, and I just think it's a it is. 221 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to say no, but I don't want 222 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: to say yet I hear you know, I'm not trying 223 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: to you know, because I hear this, and and you're 224 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: such an iconic rest run and you make up the 225 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: fiber of Washington, d C. Certainly of Georgetown. I mean, 226 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: this is the place, folks where JFK proposed to Jackie. Remember, Okay, 227 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: the Nix and Booth. I don't have to say much more, 228 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: the Kennedy, the proposal, Booth, all of it. But in 229 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: terms of how what can you just put in perspective 230 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: as you look back since on your family's history about 231 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: what this particular moment in this pandemic, where will this 232 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: go down in the story of Martin's Tavern? Well, this 233 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: certainly is gonna go down. Is is the most challenging 234 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: time that we've been through. As you mentioned, we've been 235 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: in business for eighty seven years. You know, we are 236 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: the oldest family owned restaurant in Washington d c. Um 237 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: started right after Prohibition in nineteen thirty three, and of 238 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: course I was during the depression, so you would think 239 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: that that would have been the hardest time. But looking 240 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: back now over these eighty seven years and seeing the 241 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: challenges we have faced, this is by far in a 242 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: uh going to be the most difficult challenge to get through. Uh, 243 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna change the whole makeup of the hospitality industry, 244 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: how people, how how we're gonna conduct business going forward. 245 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: And the challenge is gonna be um is given to 246 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: the size of a space that you have and what 247 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: you have to work with and the social distancing. So 248 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: this one is going to be by far the the 249 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: biggest puzzler of them all. So Billy Martin, Billy Martin, 250 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: the third is on of course he is, uh, you know, 251 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: part of the legacy of Martin's Tavern. And when you 252 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: were growing up, Billy, I'm sure your family told you 253 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: stories after stories that were passed down through this incredible, 254 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: incredible historic restaurant. This is also the place, mind you, 255 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: folks for a former Secretary of State battle And Albright 256 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: told Billy Martin over dinner that she thinks Martin's as 257 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: an extension of her living room. Wow. And Mickey Mantel 258 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: was there, Ty Cobb, you'll bear, I can't even tell 259 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: you just that, you guys, it's just such a historic place. 260 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: But Billy, what what lesson are you drawing on from 261 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: your family history that were that was passed down to you. 262 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: You mentioned that that you guys were founded during the 263 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: height of the depression. But tell me about I guess 264 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: how the sort of your family history that that you're 265 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: drawing on inspiration from to help you as your compass 266 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: through this difficult time. Well, it's gonna have to be perseverance, 267 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, you just have to push through. And uh, 268 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, as as as you said, being an iconic 269 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: restaurant in Washington, especially in the Georgetown neighborhood here, we 270 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: we come to connect with with the regular people are neighbors, 271 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: the businesses around us. But even more than that, it's 272 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: it's the people that come in each year for conventions 273 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: or whatever that that we just get to know and 274 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: we're there for so you know, we we know that 275 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: if we keep the focus day up with with the 276 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: challenges that we're facing right now and and work collectively 277 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: together with my management team and my family and look 278 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: back at how did they how did my family get 279 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: through certain situations? And again, it's just it's just it's 280 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: it's keeping a focus, coming up with the right plan 281 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: and and just making it, implement it and work through it. 282 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: And I just see that that's exactly what we're gonna 283 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: do here, and we are being rallied by our our 284 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: good loyal customers going, you know, with for our go 285 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: fund me plan, for our for our staff to keep 286 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: them all going as well. And if people want to 287 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: help out, you can go to Martin's Tavern dot com 288 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: for all of the information. That's Martin's Tavern dot com. 289 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: I have to just say, I mean when I went 290 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: and got my my order the other night, there was 291 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: a personalized hand written thank you note. I mean I 292 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: thought that was only something that people back in Delco 293 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: were grown up to learn about, to write a thing 294 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: handwritten thank you note. I mean that just goes to 295 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: show you even that I was like, this is why 296 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: Martin's Tavern has been around for all of those years, 297 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: that they would even take the time to write a 298 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: personalized thank you note. It's just so incredible. We have 299 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: a minute left, but I want to ask you. I've 300 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: always wanted to know this. You had a choice, Billy, 301 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: when you were a kid about whether or not to 302 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: go into the family business. What was the moment that 303 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: you decided, you know what, I gotta stick around to 304 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: see this thing through. Well, interestingly enough, um, I was 305 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: living in Florida for a few years. Um, and my 306 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: my my younger brother said hey, let's go see dad 307 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: and the family business. And I have to be honest, 308 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't that interested. Um, but I'm glad I did. 309 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad my younger brother, my brother Michael, convinced me 310 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: to come here and back to d C from Florida. 311 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: And when I got into it, it was just I 312 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: knew it was in my blood. I could feel it. 313 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: In the restaurant business. There's there's nothing better than the 314 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: hospitality industry. It's like being on on the stage and 315 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: and just making Pete happy. I love it, Billy. This 316 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: is such a privilege, you know what. And it's not 317 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: just in your blood of my friend, it's in Washington, 318 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: d C. Is blood. Mark Soon. I'm Kevin Cirelli. You're 319 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. Shound On with 320 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: Kevin schi Relate on Bloomberg and one oh five h 321 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: D two. I'm Kevin Sereli, chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg 322 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: Television and for Bloomberg Radio. Folks, if you're like me, 323 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: sometimes you're just having a day. You know, you're having 324 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: a day. You gotta go on like twenty million walks 325 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: in order to pass the time while you work from home. 326 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: But it's been nice out. I think it's gonna be 327 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: a little nice this weekend. They're calling for some showers, 328 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: but hopefully it's hopefully it's a nice one. And how 329 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: about this, They're gonna fly the jets over Washington, d C. 330 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that, to see the Blue Angels, 331 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: uh fly over Washington, d C. On the monuments. You know, 332 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: just stay indoors watch them or from your back y'all ards, 333 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: be socially distant and whatnot. But you can go online, 334 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: I believe, actually on on On we have it. Uh. 335 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: You can find out all the information if you go online, 336 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: just google it. But d c's the Mayor Bowser also 337 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: has it on her site as well. So again, Washington, 338 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: d C. The Blue Angels thunderbirds at about eleven forty 339 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: five am UH and between then and like twelve a 340 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: little after twelve noon tomorrow. The twenty minute joint fly 341 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: over is a salute to the front line COVID nineteen responders. 342 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: Residents should observe the flyover. I'm reading this from the 343 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: official release. Residents should observe the flyover from the safety 344 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: of their home quarantine, and should refrain from traveling to 345 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: see the flyover. Social distancing should still be practiced at 346 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: all times. I can't wait for that. You know, I 347 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: saw that what they did in New York a couple 348 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: of days ago. Amazing. I get goose bumps. So now 349 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: it's DC stern. I like that. And you know, I 350 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: was on a walk today and and and truthfully, I 351 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: saw the military handing out groceries UH to to underserved 352 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: uh or to our underserved citizens and in our community. 353 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: And you know, it was just really surreal to see that, 354 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: but also just filled with immense gratitude for all of 355 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: the people who are on the front lines and doing 356 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: all of this. Brian Darling is on the line. Brian 357 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: is a friend of the program. He also, of course, 358 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: is a Republican insider, former senior communications director to Kentucky 359 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: Senator Rampaul and founder of Liberty Government Affairs. Brian, you're 360 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: gonna watch the Thunderbirds tomorrow. I definitely am. I'm gonna 361 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: be in Bethesda. I'm gonna watch him fly over here 362 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: with your daughter, right, yeah, with the kids, and and 363 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: UH it should be fun. How are you How you 364 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: guys been holding up? I mean, how has it been 365 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: for you? I haven't spoken to you since pre pandemic. 366 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: Pray Rhona, Brian, pray Rhona. We haven't we haven't caught up. 367 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: I know I missed hanging out in the studio with you. 368 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: Well you miss Brian missed the snacks in the Bloomberg Country. 369 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: Who are your kidding? I missed that too, But uh, 370 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: the um, you know, it's been tough. I mean, I've 371 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: got kids, uh that are taking school at home. They're 372 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: doing the home schooling, which is a challenge, and yeah, 373 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: that's a challenge, and a lot of what's going on, 374 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: the fact that you never know when this is all 375 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: going to end, it's it's a little depressing. But I 376 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: think we're, you know, learning to live with this new 377 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: reality and and hopefully, slowly but surely we'll get out 378 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: of this funk and actually get back to semi normal, 379 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: whatever normal will be after the after the coronavirus passes 380 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. And I appreciate the honesty 381 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: because even as Monday is around the corner and the 382 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: Senate is set to convene, but the house is not 383 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: you know, we had Congressman Royal earlier in the program, 384 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: and the frustration amongst House members on both sides of 385 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: the aisle that Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi and 386 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: other leadership. You know, they're weighing the safety concerns and 387 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: the health concerns. But that aside, I mean, it doesn't 388 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: it doesn't. You know, they want to weigh then they 389 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: want to be careful, but it doesn't take away the 390 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: frustration from being able to get back to work that 391 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: everybody feels, whether you're an elected official, a staff member, 392 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: a lobbyist, of working in this town, working for government 393 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: and whatnot. I thought this, Did you see this on Politico? 394 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: I thought this was I mean, the headline says, at 395 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: all cash starve candidates trade swanky cocktail hours for five 396 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars zoom meetings. Brian, They're charging five thousand dollars 397 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: a pop to get on a zoom call with a 398 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: political candidate. Do you believe, I mean, what what a 399 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: sign of the times is. It's unbelievable that we've you know, 400 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: I didn't know much about zoom. I used it a 401 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: little bit before. And let me tell you something, when 402 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: all this is done, I never want to go I 403 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: never want to hear from go ahead. I agree with 404 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: you a zoom. It's zoom all the time. My kids 405 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: are doing zoom. I'm doing business meetings through zoom. But 406 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, I agree with the cons fen Roy that 407 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: these guys they should be back in town. I mean, 408 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: you've got people who are driving car, driving trucks, driving 409 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: our groceries to the grocery store. You go to the 410 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: grocery store, those people are working. You go around, and 411 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: the essential people that are working here and there, I 412 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: mean they're actually going to work. When you're sitting at home, 413 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: you're getting a package delivered, they're working. I mean, there 414 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: are a lot of essential people that are working, and 415 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: I consider Congress essential at this time. We need some 416 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: profiles and courage to step up and say, look, you 417 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: know we're going to be in Washington, and I agree 418 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: it's dangerous, so don't fly them commercially, get military aircraft, 419 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: get them here, and make them stay here, because we 420 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: need our political leaders to show some leadership and actually 421 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: be in Washington making these decisions, crafting legislation. We know 422 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: that some are sitting in the capital crafting Phase four 423 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: coronavirus response, but we're the rest of the members, and 424 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: and and that's the problem. I think it's the problem 425 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: of leadership when Congress is being um just not being 426 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: in Washington, not showing leadership. So I hear what you're saying. 427 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: I hear that argument. I can understand that entirely. And 428 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't mean to to to question your argument or 429 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: a question where you're coming from. But I also understand 430 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: the argument of well, constituents need their lawmakers and their 431 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: representatives in their district so that, especially from the small 432 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: business community perspective, they can be right there answering questions, 433 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: navigating folks for how to understand and navigate through the 434 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: economic fallout of all this. I think one of the 435 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: frustrations that based upon my reporting that I can tell 436 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: you is, Okay, if they're not going to come back 437 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: to Washington, and why aren't they voting virtually or why 438 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: aren't they doing anything virtually? Uh? I mean, if they're 439 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: if they're able to have five thousand dollars zoom fundraisers, 440 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: why can't they why can't they have a virtual type 441 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: of package in that way? If if their belief is 442 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: that being in their district is more of an advantage 443 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: to help constituents. You're following me, I hear you, and 444 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: I do see that. I mean, it's a it's an 445 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: important argument, but these we elect these members of Congress 446 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: to be here asting legislation, trying to pass something that's 447 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: going to actually help us out more so than trying 448 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: to help people through the morass of the federal bureaucracy. Alright, 449 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: coming up, we're gonna check in with Max Burns are 450 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: Democratic strategist, and we're gonna get all of the latest 451 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: for about Joe Biden's day on MSNBC where he finally 452 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: addressed those allegations. But I want to steak with policy 453 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: from a standpoint when lawmakers do return. Brian Darling, as 454 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: you are someone who advises businesses, you have the ear 455 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: of top Republicans in the Senate and in the House. 456 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: What are you going to be looking for them to 457 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: do in the immediate short term as it relates to 458 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: any type of package coming out of Congress, Well, you 459 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: look at the Phase four. I mean, the Phase four 460 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: is coming. It's it's gonna come up, and I bet 461 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: it's going to be more partisan than the last two packages. 462 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: It's not going to be unanimous. There will be some pushback. 463 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: So what I want to see is does Congress move 464 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: forward with an infrastructure package? Does Congress move forward with 465 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: other things that aren't directly related to the coronavirus crisis? 466 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: Um in, how partisan does this fight get? Because the 467 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: more that we get things thrown into this package that 468 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with the coronavirus, the launder it's 469 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: going to take to pass the bill. So I'm wondering 470 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: if Phase four might might have a problem actually getting 471 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: passed because there will be both parties are going to 472 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: dig in and try and use it for some partisanship. Amazing, amazing, 473 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: And what in terms of the fight that Congressman Roy 474 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: alluded to, I mean, he was one of the Republicans 475 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: who voted against the coronavirus package. Can you just give 476 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: us a preview in the minute or so that we 477 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: have left, Brian about, uh, the conservative fight that's coming, 478 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: if it's not, if it might be post but the 479 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: conservative fight that is coming as it relates to the 480 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: national debt and government spending, Well, we're facing approximately twenty 481 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: trillion as a nation in debt this year. We don't 482 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: even know it's going to be three three and a 483 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: half four trillion in one year. I mean that's a 484 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: staggering amount of money that we are going to own 485 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: one year. And the fight is going to be over 486 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: where do we cut and what do we spend our 487 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: money on? And that right now everybody is ready to 488 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: open up their purses and pocketbooks just to get some 489 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: money out there to help people that are hurting. But 490 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: once we get a little bit past this this crisis, 491 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be time to look to reorder our 492 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: priorities and go to figure out where we're going to 493 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: spend our money. Brian Darling always appreciate hearing your insights 494 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: and your thoughts. One of the best two knows virtually 495 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: everyone in the Republican Party. Brian Darling, former senior communications 496 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: director for RAMPAUL and the founder of Liberty Government Affairs 497 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: be All my friend. Coming up next next Burns once 498 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: Harry re allegation. If you're listening to Bloomberg nine one, 499 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: you're listening to Bloomberg Sound on with Kevin Currel non 500 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg and one or five point seven f M h 501 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: D two. I'm Kevin Surreally, Chief Washington Forest it for 502 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg radio. It's Friday, folks, Friday folks, 503 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see the flyover tomorrow from the Thunderbirds. 504 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: You no, it'll be something to look forward to five 505 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: am to twelve, shortly after twelve, you can catch that. 506 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: And uh, you can catch the flyover from the Thunderbirds. 507 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: Gonna and the Blue Angels gonna be amazing, gonna be 508 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: goose bumps. You know, the whole, the whole, the whole 509 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: nine yards. And it's all being done in to show 510 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: support for the folks on the front lines of doing 511 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: all the hard work front lines for COVID nineteen. Breaking news, 512 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: breaking news out of Joe Biden world. You ready for this? 513 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: Joe Biden just wrote a letter that was released today 514 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: May one, to Julie Adams, Julie E. Adams, Secretary of 515 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: the Senate, I am writing to request your assistance in 516 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: determining whether twenty seven years ago, a staff member in 517 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: my United States Senate office filed a complaint alleging sexual harassment. 518 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: According to public reports, the staff member, Ms. Tera Reid, 519 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: has stated that in she filed such a complaint with 520 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: the office responsible for enforcing Senate employees rights in the workplace, 521 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: Joe Biden goes on to write in this letter to 522 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: Julie Adams, the Secretary of the Senate, that he quote 523 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: request that you take or direct whatever steps are necessary 524 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: to establish the location of the records of this office, and, 525 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: once they have been located, to direct a search for 526 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: the alleged complaints, and to make public the results of 527 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: this search. End quote. Wow. A three paragraph letter from 528 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: from Joe Biden, former Vice president likely Democratic presumptive Democratic 529 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: presidential nominee. Max Burns is on the line. He is 530 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: a Democratic strategist and a contributor at The Daily Beast 531 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: and The Independent. Max, Wow, I need your reaction. What 532 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: do you think of that letter? I think this is 533 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: the right decision for Joe Biden. This is obviously something 534 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: that should be taken very seriously. I don't know whether 535 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: ms reads allegations are true or not, but they certainly 536 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: deserve a full and transparent investigation. So I think trying 537 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: to source that initially, that early complaint from will be 538 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: a huge step in in dissessing the credibility of the clients. 539 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: So Joe Biden went on Morning Joe earlier this morning, 540 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: uh and he said he was asked very indirect, direct 541 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: questioning from Mika Brasinski. I thought Mika did a personally. 542 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: I thought mikuld did a great job with the interview. 543 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean in terms of her question she asked every 544 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: question that I wanted that I add, and I think 545 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: I think she did. You know, Mika Brasinski. I think 546 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: Brazinski did a great job, and she asked him directly 547 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: whether or not, uh these out there is any merits 548 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: to these allegations. And I'm just gonna read the direct 549 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: quote from Biden. Quote, No, it is not true. I'm 550 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: saying unequivocally, it never never happens, and it didn't end. 551 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: Quote do you think the joke that this puts the 552 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: story behind Biden? I mean, for him to come out 553 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: now and release this letter to the Senate, it would 554 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: suggest that they still feel that they're going to have 555 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: more to do about this Max. But does it do 556 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: enough to to silence the questions from from progressives on 557 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: this issue. I think yeah, it's thinking definitely the right 558 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: step forward in urging transparency, not going to Donald Trump 559 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: boy hiding behind NBA's delaying, distracting. But I think Republicans 560 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: will certainly try to spin this as much as they can. 561 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: This is the distraction they've been hoping for from the 562 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: president's mismanagement on coronavirus. And regardless of what the truth is, 563 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: Republicans will certainly try and convince America that this is 564 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: true and that Joe Biden is unfit. I think Republicans 565 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: would say that the Trump, especially Againada Trump, he took 566 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: the allegations head on. I mean, I was in the 567 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: room when he brought out the accusers of Clinton, uh, 568 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 1: during right before one of the I think it was 569 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: the second to last presidential debate, So, I mean, you 570 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: know it is It is interesting though, and I think 571 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: years from now they're going to break down how all 572 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: of these elected officials handled these allegations and all of 573 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: the different strategies that they that they that they deployed, 574 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: uh and which worked and which didn't and why and 575 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: why not? I mean you gotta remember, I mean which 576 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's interesting, to say the least in terms 577 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: of where things go. Sticking with Biden World, Max Burns, 578 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: Democratic strategists. You know, we were joking about it earlier 579 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: in the program that they're having five thousand dollars zoom fundraisers. 580 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: How do you think Biden World is doing in terms 581 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: of getting out ahead of they are getting getting the 582 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: groundwork rather for the for the next you know, for 583 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: the for the sprint up to the election come come 584 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: the summer. Is this just a wait and see period 585 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: or are they are they able to keep moving forward 586 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: or what? How do you see it? We're watching Joe 587 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: Biden sort of learn how to engage with voters online 588 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: and on YouTube and streaming sort of day by day. 589 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: It's a challenge for the Democrats because you can't hold 590 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: big rallies. You can't get Barack Obama out there packing 591 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: a stadium to rile people up and get them ready 592 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: to vote. Right now, people are just trying to figure 593 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: out what is the maximum that we can do safely, 594 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: and that seems largely to be online activism, digital engagement. 595 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: There's no telling when that's going to end. But I 596 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: know that there's a lot of pent up energy within 597 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party to get out and take this fight 598 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: directly to Donald Trump in the summer. Well. See, That's 599 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: what I just find fascinating is because I don't know 600 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: if the if we won't know until November, but I 601 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: don't know if the online activism is working or not 602 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: for either party, because I think Americans right now just 603 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: have so many more important pressing issues on their mind, 604 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: putting food on the table, making sure that they can 605 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: keep their job if they're fortunate enough to be in 606 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: a situation to keep their job, or to not be 607 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: for a looad, providing for those in their family who 608 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: aren't in the in the in the same situation. And 609 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: to your point, Max Burn's Democratic strategist, President Trump just 610 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: announced a trip to Arizona. I mean he's going to 611 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: Arizona on May five, next week. The President is going 612 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: to visit Arizona. And it's fascinating to see how the 613 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: battle lines in this have played out. And the President 614 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: was very quick to get on the side of reopening 615 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: the economy as as quickly and as safely as possible, 616 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: whereas Democrats have said, no, wait a minute, we gotta 617 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: rely on on science. We have to take uh, we 618 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: have to be much more um. We have to we 619 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: have to take a safer, more safe approach. You even 620 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: see that playing out in the halls of Congress where 621 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: the Senate's going to convene on Monday. Speaker Pelosi arrived 622 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: at a different decision, but from a political standpoint, do 623 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: you think that Republicans being more aggressive in reopening the 624 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: president forecasting that he feels safe enough to go out 625 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: of the of the the White House. Do you think 626 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: that just goes to show or does that put Democrats 627 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: at a disadvantage for not being able to have in 628 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: person rallies. I think the most important thing right now 629 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: is the safety and health of Americans, and Donald Trump 630 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: is increasingly alone on this. The governor of Arizona actually 631 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: just said this week that they will not be reopening 632 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: their extending their shelter in place and they're lockdown. So 633 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: the President is actually going against the advice of the 634 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: governor who state he's visiting. And this is something that 635 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has always done. But the rest of us 636 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: are bound to a bit more of a fact based, 637 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: evidence based way of handling this crisis. Give me something, 638 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: Give me some good news, Max, give me some what's 639 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: one thing on your radar as it relates to this 640 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: that you're that you want to talk about. We got 641 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: a minute left. I'm keeping an eye on Stacy Abrahams. 642 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: She launched an incredible sort of full blast media campaign 643 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: to be Joe Biden's vice president. We haven't seen anything 644 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: like it, and I actually think it's exciting. It's a 645 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: great look at where politics could be heading. Yeah, but 646 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: do you think that she has a chance. I do. 647 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: I think anyone that can engage the base like she does, 648 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: who can talk with her authority on voting rights and 649 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: voters suppression, has more than a fighting chance of getting 650 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: the Democratic nod. Did you see the Blue Angels and 651 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: the Thunderbirds when they flew over New York City? Max Burns? 652 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: I did see the Blue Angels. It made me feel 653 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: four years old again. I like that. That's a good 654 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: note to end the week on. My thanks to Max Burns, 655 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: my thanks to Brian Darling, my thanks to Ship Roy 656 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: the Congressman, and of course to Billy Martin the Third. 657 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: Love those handwritten thank you notes and download Bloomberg is 658 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: Down on podcast on Apple, it tunes, a Bloomberg dot com, 659 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: or by downloading Boomberg Business App. You can also find 660 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: me on Radio dot com, I art Radio, and Spotify. 661 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: My name is Kevin SURREALI Chief watching the correspondent for 662 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg TV and Radio. Make sure you get outside tomorrow 663 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: safely socially distance and watch the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels. 664 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: Thank you to our first responders, and thank you also 665 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: for listening to Bloomberg nine one ye