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Speaker 1: On today's episode, an early look at the Big Ten schedule.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the solid verbal. I'll that for me.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for Dake Edo Steak. Is

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Speaker 1: that woo whoo? And then and Tye, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Soliverbal boys and girls. My name is Tie Hildebrand.

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Speaker 1: That fine gentleman over there, as always the illustrious Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the pod. Yeah, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? And may I say, ty it's not truly

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Speaker 2: college football conversation off season time until you look forward

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Speaker 2: and say, I guess I have to formulate some sort

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Speaker 2: of vague opinion of Indiana football in order to do

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Speaker 2: this Big Ten schedule preview.

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Speaker 1: So there's that I actually have a fair amount of

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Speaker 1: Indiana opinions this year. I was surprised by that.

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Speaker 2: Good I was. I was holding off until the time

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Speaker 2: to actually preview the Big Ten and not the schedule preview.

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Speaker 2: But I guess I got to muster up something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just drizzle a few in there. Hello, welcome back,

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Speaker 1: I'm ty He's Dan. We are the solid verbal. If

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Speaker 1: you listen to our last episode we preview the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three SEC college football schedule. We were working our

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Speaker 1: to the very end of this series that we're doing today.

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Speaker 1: It is Big Ten Day here on the pod. We've

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Speaker 1: got native Big Ten Sunday and Rubinstein joining us here

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Speaker 1: talking through all things. Of course, Northwestern football, the deep

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Speaker 1: all sorts of fun stuff in the works. Mister Roosteen,

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Speaker 1: what are your impressions of the Big Ten slate as

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Speaker 1: a whole. You know we're gonna go through and do

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Speaker 1: the deep dive in which schedules are hardest and easiest

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Speaker 1: and trappiest and gumpiest and other words that we will

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Speaker 1: make up inevitably throughout the course of the next sixty

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Speaker 1: odd minutes or so. But what's your take on this thing?

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Speaker 1: Just looking at the way that they set this up.

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Speaker 2: It was a because we have the Michael Scott sound,

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Speaker 2: which I think we'll play during when we look at

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Speaker 2: some bye weeks of who needs to carbo load ahead

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Speaker 2: of a run of good teams after bye weeks. The

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Speaker 2: thing that struck me was there are stretches like, for instance,

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Speaker 2: this is and we'll talk more about Purdue at some point,

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Speaker 2: but Perdue could start zero and four or four and zero. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: because of the sheer number of new coaches and new

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Speaker 2: full time starting quarterbacks or newness within the conference, whether

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Speaker 2: it's Wisconsin, Nebraska, Purdue, or a team that is looking

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Speaker 2: last year. Obviously Michigan State starting over with the full

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Speaker 2: time a new full time starting quarterback. Ohio State that

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Speaker 2: battles going into the fall with what Devin Brown and

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Speaker 2: we believe a team like Ohio State is what we

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Speaker 2: maybe there are ten and two Ohio State team or

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Speaker 2: because there's so much new and unknown about some combination

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is on the whole. Not a lot

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Speaker 1: It also may be assumed at this point, but I

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Speaker 1: I guess that's not always a given, it's what have

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Speaker 1: You can see it with your road eyes. Which schedule

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Speaker 2: The one that is wall to wall flimsy Michigan sham.

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Speaker 1: I pulled the treasure sound just for Michigan. Dan, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're over under his ten and a half. Why do

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they scheduled no body East Carolina, UNLV,

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Speaker 1: You could not ask for a more ideal schedule. If

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Speaker 1: will actually be very difficult. We know that, we expect

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Speaker 1: that the Michigan State game's rivalry. They play at Maryland.

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Speaker 1: came away feeling like, yeah, this is one of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also no second tier danger because no Iowa

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Speaker 2: It's all new on this schedule. Minnesota new. Even though

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Speaker 2: as an architect piece together this schedule, no, I don't

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Speaker 2: of threat. It's just perfect. It's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It is. It's a treasure. It really is a national treasure.

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Speaker 1: It's a big ten treasure. If you're a Michigan Wolverine fan,

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Speaker 1: is set up. It toughens up the deeper you get

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Speaker 1: That will be a difficult stretch if there is one

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Speaker 1: in here. But I feel really good about Michigan's chances here,

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Speaker 2: If there were to be a trap situation, I have

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Speaker 2: you have two straight road games. That's as dramatic as

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Speaker 2: Minnesota is after Nebraska rarely. I'm saying Maryland is the

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Speaker 2: letdown look at obviously between Penn State and Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that game could be a little bit dicey,

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Speaker 2: That was a game last year against Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was to talk about Ohio State. Let's Ohio

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Speaker 1: State also a ten and a half over under. I

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Speaker 1: think this is a challenging schedule. I've got this jotted

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Speaker 1: hardest in the Big Ten. And it's all relative, right,

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Speaker 1: everything's relative. As we're talking through what's hard for Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: probably not hard for Ohio State. But Ohio State's got

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Speaker 1: I think, a very very challenging slate here. They've got

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Speaker 1: road games at Notre Dame, at Wisconsin, and at Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Right those are not easy, not easy places to play.

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Speaker 1: Some trappiness in here. Also going to Purdue a week

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Speaker 1: But Ohio State scheduled this thing in such way that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's backloaded for sure, with the at Purdue, at Wisconsin, Michigan,

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Speaker 2: Not Fetichin because it's Maryland perdue right after the bye

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Speaker 2: week when they're carba loading. And the good thing about

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Speaker 2: where the bye falls, it's right after Notre Dame. Correct, correct,

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Speaker 2: So the Ohio State defensive backs will have time to

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Speaker 2: rest their hands from catching all the apartment passes. That's right.

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Speaker 2: You get that sort of relief in there to prepare

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Speaker 1: You were an oven mits that entire bye week to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to, you have to. So no, Ohio

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Speaker 2: State schedules really nice. They're figuring out because Devin Brown

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Speaker 2: its work cut out for it. But schedule wise, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right about the back half having Purdue, Penn State,

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin right there. It's a medy middle for Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: You can play that sandwich if you want, because you

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Speaker 2: like this one is a new sandwich thing. That's a sandwich,

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Speaker 2: I mean really like a dynamite legit sandwich. Well, guy

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Speaker 2: maybe an accident that the Big Ten was like, let's

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Speaker 2: not make things too difficult for Michigan Ohio State. And

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Speaker 2: You didn't even refer to Don Brown and UMass blitzing

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Speaker 2: Let's go to I guess our moratorium is up. I

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Speaker 1: Whoever, let's let's do the IOA thing. The sabbatical has expired. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: The schedule features them going to Penn State, but no Michigan,

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Speaker 2: Plenty of good states still available. I have no idea

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Speaker 2: That's the word I'm looking at that there is a

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Speaker 1: My word is post post and I will explain why

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I like that you're viewing this through a

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Speaker 2: If they have a merely disappointing offense, they'll beat Utah State,

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Speaker 1: Wins post schedule, the schedule doesn't even matter. Throw the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's just the big If you have to

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Wisconsin. Sure, new coach, over under nine wins.

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Speaker 1: So we've been doing this since. Sitting back my chair

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Speaker 1: I can't remember many instances where a new coach was

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Speaker 1: This is one of the easiest schedules in the Big Ten,

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Speaker 1: From my standpoint, it is hard to know exactly where

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Speaker 1: turning a program over in the manner that they did.

432
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to undersell that,

433
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: but it does tell you everything that you need to

434
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: know that the over under is nine. Vegas feels pretty

435
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: good about this. The only team I'm scared of on

436
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: the schedule is Ohio State and that game's in Madison.

437
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 1: The road schedule is at Wazoo week two, which, okay,

438
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: that could be a little weird. It always is weird

439
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: up in the Blues. There's a Friday night game at Purdue,

440
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: at Illinois, at Indiana at Minnesota the last week of

441
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Speaker 1: the year. M hm, am I crazy. It's hard to

442
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: do better than that, is it? Not?

443
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: It is? I didn't love that the reports out of

444
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: spring were, like Danner Mordecai was not necessarily it all

445
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 2: the time. That worries me a little bit. Schedule wise,

446
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 2: I love it. It's it's a lot of buffers in here.

447
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 2: It's a lot of new coaches, new quarterbacks. I mean,

448
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 2: want to talk about at the top of the show,

449
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: thank you. So, I mean, we haven't even spoken about Illinois,

450
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,239
Speaker 2: but we've mentioned Illinois a few times on here as

451
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 2: being a threat. But you're talking about what Tommy DeVito

452
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Artsakowski Illinois.

453
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: King Arthur to the uninitiated.

454
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: But sure, yeah, so yeah, Wisconsin could start the seat,

455
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: they could be undefeated against Ohio State. They absolutely could

456
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: be right, that's what seven and oh, yeah they could

457
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: be seven, and oh they could be four and three.

458
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 2: I look, if produced decent. It's at Purdue on a

459
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 2: Friday night, so I mean, it's after Georgia Southern, but

460
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: it's short week rest at Wazoo wear but Wazoo lost

461
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: a ton coaching turnovers. There's just a lot new in

462
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: the Polos and they're traveling there and that's not going

463
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: to be an easy trip and they already lost that

464
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: game at home. Back out of the schedules, pretty great though,

465
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: depending on how you feel. I guess about Nebraska to

466
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: go Illinois Ohio State, but it's at home, so they

467
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: miss miss Michigan and Penn State at Indiana, Northwestern Nebraska

468
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: at Minnesota. And while I said it was a nice year,

469
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: or I haven't said that, yeah, because we haven't talked

470
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: about Minnesota. But nice year to have Minnesota host Wisconsin,

471
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: because even though Wisconsin essentially always wins that game, games

472
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis and Wisconsin starting over. So I'm just I'm

473
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: a big fan of Wisconsin's schedule. If Tanner Mordecai is

474
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: pretty good because I think the defense will jump up.

475
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: I think a lot was lost just in the lack

476
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Speaker 2: of faith in the offense last year, even with Braylen Allen.

477
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: So I think Wisconsin's gonna be a better place. It's

478
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: just to me, like, is it too much to expect

479
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Speaker 2: year one.

480
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Speaker 1: Nine's a lot?

481
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't.

482
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: I think I'd want to touch that over under Yeah,

483
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: I certainly will not be adding it to my list

484
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: of over under a picks yep. But I do think

485
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: it's important context here, the fact that Vegas thinks that

486
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: is some validation that this is not only an easy

487
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: schedule but probably pretty good wis Conston team. I don't

488
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a whole lot of a step

489
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: back with the Fickle taking over. The reason that they

490
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: brought him in was to try and modernize this thing

491
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: and move it forward on the recruiting side of things.

492
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: Certainly on the offensive side of things, he's always been

493
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: a good defensive coach. Right They're looking at this as

494
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: an incremental improvement, and so maybe it's not a surprise

495
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: for people who are Wisconsin fans who follow the program

496
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: more intently that Vegas has such high expectations. But the

497
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: schedule definitely puts them in a situation where they can

498
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Speaker 1: get there. I don't think there's any two ways about that.

499
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Speaker 2: Should also add Wisconsin getz Ohio State a week after

500
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: Ohio State plays Penn State. Yep, correct, yep, yep, and

501
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: they play Minnesota in the rivalry game. Paul Bunyon's acts.

502
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: They get Minnesota a week after Minnesota is at Ohio State.

503
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: So Wisconsin could be the beneficiary of a couple of

504
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: nice spots there. Body blow theory if you're a believer

505
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 2: at all. So that's interesting.

506
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Speaker 1: Let's go to Minnesota. Actually, I talked about the schedule

507
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 1: when we did the Minnesota deep dive, when we were

508
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: talking about what it's going to take. They get them

509
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: to ten, they're over under a six and a half.

510
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: They've got four of the toughest Big Ten teams on

511
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: their schedule. They've got Michigan, they go to Iowa and

512
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: Ohio State, and they've got Wisconsin. In addition to that,

513
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: they've also got a non con game against North Carolina, yes,

514
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: in Week three. That game is in Chapel Hill as well.

515
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: So if we're comparing Minnesota heads up against last season,

516
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: this schedule is an order of magnitude more difficult. It's

517
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: not even close last year I'm disappointed last year, I

518
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: think I made that pretty well known. I'm disappointed because

519
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: last year was a year to get the ten wins,

520
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: and getting a ten wins this year, it's not going

521
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: to happen. What I don't know is they are trying

522
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: to revitalize the offense. They've got a brand new play caller.

523
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: They've got a new full time starter in athink caliak

524
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: Banna's Greek free because he's known on the show here.

525
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: They supposedly want to air it out more. Athink cali

526
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: ak banis as a four star coming in. I don't

527
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: know to what degree he'll be able to live up

528
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: to that promise. I don't know to what degree they're

529
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: going to be able to open up this offense and

530
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: not just be about offensive linemen and running the football

531
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: three yards in a cloud of I don't know, frankly,

532
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: to what end they're going to be able to accomplish

533
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: any of those goals. But this, to me strikes me

534
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: as a difficult schedule to certainly get the ten wins

535
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: six and a half. We can have a conversation, but

536
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: it just seems like Minnesota is in put up or

537
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: shut up territory now. They've got some testers here that

538
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: they're going to have to deal with. We will see

539
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: exactly how far PJ. Fleck has brought this program.

540
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: Blay me that Forrest Gump sound tie?

541
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

542
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So they have what could be the first overall

543
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: pick in the NFL Draft in what Week two? And

544
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: Drake May depending on how three NFL people view Week three?

545
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Drake May and Caleb Williams. Okay, So that's

546
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: pretty high profile, right, You'll get people will be watching

547
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: Drake May more than ever this coming year, no matter

548
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: what North Carolina is. They miss Indiana, Maryland, and Rutgers.

549
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say those are low profile places

550
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: because I think I happen to think Maryland should be

551
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: pretty good this year. But in terms of interest in

552
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: those teams relative to the rest of the Big ten,

553
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: I'd say it's on the lower.

554
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: End, right. I would agree with that you're being artful

555
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: in the way that you describe this.

556
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: I'm being artful is terrible? Continue, Well, I'm just saying

557
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: the attention like I don't. I'm not saying Maryland is

558
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: catastrophically bad, because I think Maryland is pretty good. I

559
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: just think in terms of where eyeballs are. I don't

560
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: think you think Maryland when you think interesting Big Ten

561
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: football at the top.

562
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: I think ACC basketball and I think Maryland. But we've

563
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: been this route many times over. Continue.

564
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: Okay, So Minnesota has Michigan at home after Michigan is

565
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: at Nebraska, second consecutive road game. They have Michigan State

566
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: at home after Michigan State hosts Michigan. They are at

567
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: Ohio State between Ohio State playing Michigan State and their

568
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: end at Michigan. They miss Penn State, which is a

569
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: knock against the Gumpaninis. They're at Iowa after Iowa is

570
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: at Wisconsin. They open the Matt Rule era hosting Nebraska

571
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: correct in week one, so that's eyeballs. They're at Purdue

572
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: after the Boilers are at Michigan, and they host Luke

573
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: Fickles first X game. So Minnesota, whatever you say of

574
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: their window last year to win double digit games, they're

575
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: finding themselves in advantageous or interesting spots to win a

576
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: bunch of games. If you're a body blow theory believer,

577
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: so they're a gumpy team for you, then I must

578
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: to dragonly about fifteen to octupem Yeah, do you agree

579
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: or do you have another gumpy team in the mix?

580
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: Oh? My gumpy team's Indiana. Oh interesting, Indiana is the

581
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: forest gump of the Big ten and Maryland to some extent.

582
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: Tell me why in Banna is over? Under is three

583
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: and a half. Okay, I could see a path to

584
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: three because they can beat they can beat Indiana State,

585
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: they can beat Accurate, and they can beat Rutgers. To

586
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: get that over though, they've got to steal one along

587
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: the way, and that's where it starts to get weird.

588
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: They've got a neutral cider against Louisville, they're at Maryland,

589
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: they're at Michigan, they're at Penn State, they're home against Wisconsin,

590
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: they're at Illinois, they're home against Michigan State, and they're

591
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: at Purdue. Again, it's all relative. That sounds tough to me.

592
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: It will be tough for Indiana. I guarantee they got

593
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: to steal one in order to get to four. But situationally,

594
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: listen to this Situationally, Maryland gets Indiana a week before

595
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: they play Ohio State. Before Marylan plays Ohio State. Michigan

596
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: gets Indiana a week before they play their rivalry game

597
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: against Michigan State. Okay, Penn State gets Indiana week before

598
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: Penn State plays Michigan, Illinois gets them a week before

599
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: Illinois plays Wasson. Northwestern gets him a week before they

600
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: play Iowa that Wrigley game, and then Wisconsin gets him

601
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: a week after Wisconsin plays Ohio State. So it's constantly

602
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: either a sandwich, a look ahead, or a letdown spot

603
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: here for the Indiana Hoosiers. That's not to say that

604
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: any of those situations will be ultimately advantageous, because it's

605
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: Indiana football and I kind of think things are a bit.

606
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: Of a mess.

607
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: That being said, situationally, Indiana's got it pretty good.

608
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: That's whether my gumpy team. But the only reason I

609
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: would push back on your Indiana gumpiness is while Forrest

610
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: Gump does have his limitations, I think he is extremely

611
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: accomplished and he is able enough to be a little

612
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: bit dangerous. Right, He's running across the country. He's a

613
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: war hero. He's incredible at table tennis, right, and when

614
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: we he's incredible.

615
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: At table tennis pull out, I like that. No, yeah,

616
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: he's very good. He was doing the two pad thing

617
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: that your very good. Listen speak for yourself. I could

618
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: not do what the best of No no, no, no, I

619
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: couldn't either on a table.

620
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: Also was a specialized return guy for the Alabama Crimson Tide.

621
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, I think gumpiness has to be

622
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: associated with a team that's a little bit feistier. Unless

623
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: you believe in Indiana feistiness.

624
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't. Sometimes you do, I don't, but I but

625
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: you believed in.

626
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: Texas Tech feistiness, and I think you believe in Minnesota feightiness,

627
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: which is why I leaned gumpier. I had gumpier leanings

628
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: with Minnesota.

629
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: My actually, my gumpier leaning is not Minnesota. And if

630
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Indiana does not rise to that gumpy level for you,

631
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about Maryland football.

632
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about Maryland football, which we have recently, which.

633
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: We have recently. Maryland's over under a seven and there

634
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: are only three games on this thing that I feel

635
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: like are sure fire losses. I think they look at

636
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State, I think they lose home against Penn State,

637
00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: and I think they lose home against Michigan. Okay, but

638
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: there are some games there that are at home, so

639
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: who knows. Who knows about Penn State Michigan, I don't know.

640
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: I would also add that if we want to explore

641
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: the gumpy angle here, the Michigan game is at home

642
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: a week after Michigan goes to Penn State. The game

643
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: against Michigan State, which we didn't mention there in the

644
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: little preamble, is embedded in a stretch where Sparty plays

645
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: Washington and Iowa before and after. The Penn State game

646
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: is a week before the Nitney Lions host Michigan, and

647
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: the games against Illinois and Nebraska are just sort of

648
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: wedged in there as well. So Maryland seven wins over under.

649
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: We weren't talking about Maryland getting to seven. We weren't

650
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: talking about Maryland getting to ten. We're talking about getting eight, which,

651
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: by order of things here with the over under in

652
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: the schedule, seems very very doable.

653
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, if Penn State were to go to Ohio State

654
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: and win, I'd be terrified as a Penn State fan

655
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: about losing to Maryland. If James Franklin didn't already own

656
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: Mike Lock that's the issue. That's the issue to me.

657
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: But that would feel like the place where like, oh

658
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: Penn State's number two in the country, right, they just

659
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: beat Ohio State, Like, is that the best win of

660
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: the season? And then they go to Maryland before playing Michigan.

661
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: That seems so dangerous to me, But then it's like

662
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: Talia throwing into an incredible defense.

663
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: That's the worry.

664
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: But the game's at home, so maybe there's something. There's

665
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 2: some magic in College Park this year. But maybe that's

666
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: just like an early inkling to take points as soon

667
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: as Penn State beats Ohio State in that universe, take

668
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: the points against Maryland on the road. Yeah, I don't know.

669
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that Maryland finds itself in

670
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: some really weird spots, and weird spots for other teams,

671
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: not so much for them. They're they're kind of set

672
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: up pretty well. They've also got a Virginia Friday Night

673
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: game here that will I don't know if that will

674
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: be more interesting in year two under Tony Elliott for

675
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: the Virginia Cavaliers, but this sets up well for him.

676
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: If you're if you're a Maryland fan, if you listen

677
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: to the Maryland Show we did a couple of weeks ago,

678
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: this is okay.

679
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: I would take this. Do you want to talk Nebraska?

680
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: I would actually love to, And if you could let

681
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: me do the setup here, I would appreciate it. Please please,

682
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: please please. Here is why I beg this of you.

683
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: Nebraska's over under is six. And I'm going to talk

684
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: a little bit out of both sides my mouth here

685
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: because for month and a half two months now, I've

686
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: been saying on our show on others that I believe

687
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: in Matt rule, but not yet, not until year two,

688
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: because his first year at Temple was Disaster's first year

689
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: at Baylor was a disaster, disaster in terms of wins

690
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: and losses. That what he did in those first seasons

691
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: was set up successes that were to follow. By the

692
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: time year three got around, we saw the big jump

693
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: and the legend of Matt rule continued to grow. That's

694
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: how he got through the NFL. There is a lot

695
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: new in Lincoln. I think That's why I've been saying it.

696
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect. So do I believe

697
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: in Nebraska Ultimately, yes, under Matt rule, But you're one

698
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: too much new.

699
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: The track record for rule in year one has not

700
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: been great. But Daniel, those are very specific context, very

701
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 2: specific context, much different starting point. But I must say,

702
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 2: the over underdropped at six, and I'm thinking, Okay, maybe

703
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: Vegas knows something here.

704
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: What do they know? What does Vegas know that I

705
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: don't know? Then I look at the schedule. It is beautiful, Dan,

706
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: It is America's schedule at Minnesota at Colorado, Northern Illinois,

707
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech, Michigan at home, Great at Illinois on a

708
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: Friday before bye coming back home Northwestern Purdue, back to

709
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: back at home at Michigan State home against Maryland at

710
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: Wisconsin home against Iowa on a Friday for the Heroes Gamegan.

711
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: This thing is gorgeous. It's gorgeous. If I felt a

712
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: little bit better about where Nebraska was going into twenty

713
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: twenty three, I'd take the over with flying colors. I

714
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: would listen them at the top of my easiest schedules

715
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: in the Big ten unofficial power ranking, which are just

716
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: made up. There is a path here. I say it again,

717
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: even though it's your one under Matt rule, there's a

718
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: path to nine wins. You have to squid to find it, ough,

719
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: you have to squid to fight it.

720
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: I love this. I love this Nebraska hype.

721
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: Okay, it is beautiful, beautiful, I stand by.

722
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: Okay, So when they lose twenty eight to ten in

723
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: a week, one will you still stand by it in Minneapolis,

724
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: I will probably not. Okay, that's tough. That's a tough opener. Now, look,

725
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 2: they miss Penn State and Ohio State, they get Michigan

726
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: at home. You can squint and see four and eight

727
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: as well. If it's going to take some time. But no,

728
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: I think the schedule's fine. You get a bunch of

729
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: winnable games at home, Northern Illinois, Louisiana, tach Northwestern, Purdue Maryland.

730
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: If Nebraska is more decent, then the transfers all seem

731
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: to work out. Maybe Jeff Simms is incredible. Whatever gets

732
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: Nebraska there, and they have Iowa at home. I just

733
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to saddle a recently traditionally losing program

734
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: zero Bowl games under Scott Frost. There's a lot of

735
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: reason to put that on Scott Frost. They had, you know,

736
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: great offensive performances, great defensive stretches. This was not a

737
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: team without guys, without dudes. But sometimes takes a little time.

738
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: Let's take a little time. And I just when you

739
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: saying I can squint and see nine wins on this

740
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: Nebraska schedule, I salute you like I was saluting the

741
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: camera during that song. Yeah, but man, I just I

742
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: think they're behind, even with the transfers.

743
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: If you squint, you have terrible eyesight, Yes I do.

744
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: If you squint or put your glout, you have your

745
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: glasses on, if you put stronger glasses on, if you're

746
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: really looking at this thing. Yeah, what is the maximum

747
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: number of wins that you Dan Rubinstein can find.

748
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: One, two, three, four, I can find six.

749
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: So the Dan Rubinstein ceiling for Nebraska is six.

750
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: So, look, you're getting getting one of the better teams

751
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: on your schedule in Minnesota Week one. Is that I

752
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: guess nice, right, because things can be wacky week one.

753
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: That you really don't know what you have in your

754
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 2: team until you see your team in week.

755
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: One, one of the better teams on the schedule.

756
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 2: Sure, Minnesota is one of the better teams on the schedule.

757
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not still that certain that they're good. I'm

758
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: not Minnesota. I'm not certain that they're good.

759
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 2: It's Greg Harbo, by the way, not Harbaugh as their coordinator.

760
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: I found that out recently.

761
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not I'm not certain that they're good. Maybe

762
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: one of the better teams in the schedule. Yeah, I

763
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: get I'm sure. I'll give you that, But I'm not

764
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: certain that they're good. If they're one of the better teams,

765
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: you got to come away from this saying that Nebraska's

766
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: gonna pretty good spot they could beat them. They're gonna

767
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: be Colorado, Northern Nil and Louisiana Tech. Those could be wins,

768
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: not beating Michigan. Could they beat Illinois?

769
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: I think they could beat it. Could they beat Illinois

770
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: on the road on a Friday night? I think that's

771
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: traditionally pretty tricky.

772
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: But could they beat Northwestern? Could they beat Purdue at home? Sure?

773
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: Michigan State?

774
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Perdue has been a bowl team and they

775
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: add what we think is a decent quarterback in Hudson Card.

776
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: Could they beat Purdue at home?

777
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: They could? Sure?

778
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're squid. Could they beat Michigan State on

779
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: the road?

780
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: I guess ty?

781
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: But did they beat Maryland at home?

782
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

783
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: We might be up the thirteen wins now. I don't

784
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: even know how many we're at here.

785
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, but I'm just but I'm also saying,

786
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: we just finished talking about how you really like Maryland,

787
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: you really like Wisconsin. You see a world in which

788
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: you really like Iowa, you really like Michigan. I know

789
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: you don't love Minnesota like you claim to have loved

790
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: them last year.

791
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't love Minnesota anymore, no, I'm all.

792
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: I just they have like the smell of a six

793
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 2: and six and five to me. Like, if we think

794
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: Matt Rule is better than Scott Frosts perennial non Bowl coach,

795
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: then in year one he's two or three games better.

796
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Perdue, yep, Purdue's over under five and a half.

797
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: M h, I've got this as the toughest schedule in

798
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: the Big Ten.

799
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: It's real tough.

800
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: I think this is a really tough slate for a

801
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: new coach at Virginia Tech, at Iowa, at Nebraska, at Michigan,

802
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: at Northwestern. They've also got Wisconsin and Ohio State on

803
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: this schedule, so new regime is going to have its

804
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: work cut out for him. I do not feel optimistic

805
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: about hitting that that over five and a half. This

806
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: might be one of those ones where I'd probably lean

807
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: under because I just think it's it's a really tough stretch.

808
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: Man.

809
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: Once you get to like the middle part of the season,

810
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: as you like to say, the medi middle, you've got

811
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: a stretch where you're at Iowa next week, call home

812
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: against Ohio State. After a bye you're on the road

813
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: back to back weeks at Bras, at Michigan, Minnesota, coming

814
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: back home before You've got two winnable games to close

815
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: this thing out. So that we're going to find out

816
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: a lot about Perdue in that sort of middle area.

817
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: I you know what we can We could say this

818
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: is a bit of a Fettucini alfredo.

819
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: You think, oh, absolutely it is. Yes, that's my team.

820
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 3: I ate more Fetichini alfredo and drank less water than

821
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: I have.

822
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: They're your Feeduccini team.

823
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah them in Rutgers. Rutgers has a buye before

824
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Iowa, and State Maryland.

825
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: So that's tough.

826
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: That's tough for Rutgers. I don't know how much you

827
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: want to talk Rutgers, but yes, in terms of another

828
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: team and that needs to carbo load during the bye week, Yes,

829
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: Perdue could start, Oh four, they can start two and five,

830
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: they could start four and oh. I think there's so

831
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: much up in the air with Perdue, with that new

832
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: coach transfer quarterback, not even like quarterback finally getting a

833
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: shot like with Minnesota and Minnesota and the Greek freak

834
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: new coach transfer quarterback Fresno State should be enough. At

835
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech improving. I'm not crazy about Virginia Tech in

836
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: this moment. Syracuse. We'll see that was a crazy game

837
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: that came down to the end last year. That was

838
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: at Syracuse. So that seems like it might be winnable

839
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: if things are coming together nicely by week three Wisconsin

840
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: on a Friday night. It's a short week, but Wisconsin

841
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: has Georgia Southern before that, so a little bit of

842
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: a buffer which should be a buffer for Wisconsin. Illinois

843
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: at home at Iowa, Ohio State. Every single record you

844
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: could sell me on heading into the buy no week

845
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: eight bye is what it is. Yeah, so you want

846
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: to sell me on five and two, you want to

847
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: sell me on two and five, three and four, four

848
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: and three, one and six. I'm open to it time.

849
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm open to Purdue pitches right now. I am accepting

850
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: pitches un purdues pre buy schedule Perdue.

851
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: I could go a number of different ways with Perdue,

852
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: but I think, again, relatively speaking, this is probably the

853
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: hardest schedule that I saw in the Big Ten.

854
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: I don't like the way that sets up for him.

855
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: I think Rutgers might hardest schedule. Well, let's go to Rutgers, Okay,

856
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: so we can die Ruggers. Yeah.

857
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: So, since we're talking about over unders, they did not

858
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: release an over runner for Rutgers. There's no odds, literally,

859
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: no odds. Maybe there are now a time of recording

860
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: or when people are listening to this, but at last check,

861
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: there were no odds for Rutgers. Here's what they've got

862
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: open up the year. Three straight home games Northwestern Temple,

863
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Then they're at Michigan home against Wagner at

864
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: Wisconsin home against Michigan State at Indiana before a bye,

865
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: after the bye, after the bye, it's home against Ohio

866
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: State at Iowa at Penn State Maryland. The close things out.

867
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: That is a real that's that's Fedichini alfred.

868
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: More Fetichini Alfredo. Does it a drink less water than

869
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: I have in my entire life?

870
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no water and a lot of fetiginie Alfredo

871
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: sitting in the tom tum there.

872
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: It's it's as if somebody doesn't care about Rutgers.

873
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: It's as if they're trying to get them to drop

874
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: out so they can take on Oregon, Washington, North Carolina

875
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: Florida State. So yeah, uh yeah.

876
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: Quarterback is up in the air for Rutgers. Schedule is

877
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 2: most certainly up in the air for Rutgers. Who did

878
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: they give trouble last year? They beat Boston College, they

879
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: beat a very bad Temple team, They lost in Nebraska

880
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: by one, they beat Indiana, shelled by Minnesota, only lost

881
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: in Michigan State, who they've had some recent success against,

882
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: by six, and then got destroyed by Penn State and

883
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: Maryland to finish out the year. Nebraska is in a

884
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: better place and BC. I guess we'll see what they

885
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: don't play BC this year. Ioways should be in a

886
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: better place than they lost by seventeen last year, and

887
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: Indiana should be in a better place. We'll see. I

888
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: just it does have like a two and ten kind

889
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: of whiff to it right.

890
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: Now, A little bit of two and ten notes.

891
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: Or maybe three and nine. Northwestern Temple Wagner four and eight.

892
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: If you beat Virginia Tech at home, it's hard.

893
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: To see.

894
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: Us they can. Oh man, now I'm talking myself into

895
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: five one Rutgers because there's Indiana right there. It's okay,

896
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: Northwestern Temple, Virginia Tech Wagner in Indiana or Michigan State,

897
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 2: they gets them to five. I don't see them sneaking

898
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: into a like a fake Path Bowl game again this

899
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 2: year though.

900
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: No, no, hmm.

901
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: That's rough schedule Man Ohio State, Iowa, Penn State, Maryland

902
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: with Iowa Penn State on the road. Okadok, we know

903
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: what they are by November. Frankly, yeah, well we want

904
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: to go to Illinois. Got a fascinating schedule. We've talked

905
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: about Illinois a lot without talking about Illinois.

906
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about Illinois, just kind of ricochet

907
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: shots here, but Illinois is over under six and a half.

908
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: Illinois pretty good season last year home against Toledo at Kansas,

909
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: Penn State at home, Florida Atlantic at home. That's their

910
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: opening month. Then they're at Purdue home against Nebraska on

911
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: a Friday night, Maryland home against Wisconsin after the buy

912
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: closed things out in November at Minnesota home against Indiana,

913
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: at Iowa home against Northwestern. So there's a little bit

914
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: of the odd ball syndrome that I mentioned when we

915
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 1: did the SEC show and talked about Florida every other week. Right,

916
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: kind of a tough, tougher road game for this team.

917
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: This feels sneaky tough to me. It feels sneaky tough

918
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: to me. And that's not to say it's a tough schedule,

919
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's easily overlooked and there are

920
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: some teams on here that I could see giving them trouble.

921
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: I can see Illinois being in a similar spot to

922
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: last season, where it just felt like every game was close,

923
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, And sure six and a half gives them

924
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: some some credit. I think Vegas basically saying they're a

925
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: bowl team, right, which.

926
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: I well, there's continuity too, even with losing Ryan Walters,

927
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 2: it's continuity with the head coach and quarterback. Yeah.

928
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean I think there is. There's a

929
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: fair amount to like if you're an Illinois fan, and

930
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: the way that Brett Bilma has now built them up

931
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: in two seasons. Year one was five and seven. Last

932
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: season was what eight and five? They finished up lost

933
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: in the bowl game to Mississippi State. There's a lot

934
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: to like here. And if we look at just how

935
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: they played their games last season, all four of the

936
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: regular season losses were by one score.

937
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but those are games also in which Illinois played

938
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: ugly football and to kind of deserve to lose. Like

939
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 2: the Michigan State game was one of the uglier games,

940
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: and I think it was swirling wins too, but it was.

941
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: It was a bad watch. Yeah, absolutely brutal.

942
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: So all I'm saying is I could see this being

943
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: tougher than meets the eye. But provided there aren't any

944
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know position groups that bought them

945
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: out for Bett Bulimo, I would expect them to get

946
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: back to Bowl eligibility with this.

947
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: It's tough after the bye week Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa, Wax.

948
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: It's not that tough, but going into that stretch of

949
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: having what might be a difficult Purdue Ryan Walter very

950
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: familiar with Illinois Nebraska on a Friday night at home

951
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: though at Maryland and Wisconsin. If Illinois picks up where

952
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: they left off and they are more assured and more

953
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: comfortable playing for Brett Bielima and guys are developing, more

954
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: guys who are rotation guys coming in more. I don't

955
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: like where they are at quarterback. I don't think the

956
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: defense can replicate where they were last year with so

957
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: many sort of offenses and dire places last year. But

958
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: I think they can get to a bowl game. They've

959
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: got Penn State at an advantageous place, right, it's a

960
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: week before Penn State plays Iowa. Yeah, and it's in Champagne.

961
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: So no, would you say that over unto a six

962
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: six and a half, I'd be inclined to take the

963
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 2: over for Illinois.

964
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: I am fascinated by Week two at Kansas.

965
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: I think to me it might be what gets them

966
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 2: to seven wins or not.

967
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that Kansas game will be fascinating because,

968
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: if nothing more, it's a game of wildly contract styles. Sure,

969
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: Kansas is all offense, narrow any defense last season, and

970
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: I think Illinois was very very much driven by its defense.

971
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: And you know, provided Kansas improves a little bit on

972
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: the defensive side and Illinois improves a little bit on

973
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: the offensive side, we could be in for hell of

974
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: a game. But two contrasting styles. We like to say

975
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: on the show, styles make fights. Styles will make a

976
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: fight in week two. It could be a fun game.

977
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to it. I mean, Repay Almo is

978
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: a real coach, and we don't know who Illinois has

979
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: in terms of real coaches at these places right now,

980
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: so we'll say I don't think it's smoking mirrors.

981
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with you. I think it's he's

982
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: doing a good job. He is doing a good job.

983
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: Michigan State. We have not mentioned Spardi here. Yeah, over

984
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,479
Speaker 1: unders five and a half for Michigan State. Given where

985
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: I think Michigan State is at right now, I think

986
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: this is a tough schedule for them.

987
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: Would you agree with that?

988
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: I think so at Iowa at Ohio State home against

989
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: Washington home against Michigan home against Penn State. Who knows

990
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: what November Nebraska will look like in week ten. I

991
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: could see Nebraska being pluckier by then. Then maybe they

992
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: will be early on until they get things figured out.

993
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: But November a side Dan, This is a tough slate.

994
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: This is a tough slate for a Michigan State team

995
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: that feels like it's very much in flux. Feels like again,

996
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: there's a lot of new we saw Peyton thorn keyon

997
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: Holm in those transfers. That hurts the offense. The offense

998
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: was already somewhat inconsistent. I would not want to touch

999
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: this over and I think there's a chance that we

1000
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: could see sort of an early implosion here. I think

1001
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: by the time they get to their bye week. In

1002
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: Week six, we could be looking at a team that

1003
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: lost to Washington, that lost to Iowa, that perhaps lost

1004
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: to Maryland, even though that game's at home, and they

1005
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: still have a pretty good, meaty portion of their schedule

1006
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: to follow with games against Michigan, with games against Ohio

1007
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: State and Penn State.

1008
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, the vibes don't seem great coming out of East

1009
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: Lansing at the moment, with Peyton Thorn leaving, Kean Coleman

1010
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 2: leaving without it being like, oh, it's clear that Noah

1011
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 2: Kim is better than Peyton Thorn or Katenhauser or whoever

1012
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: is the guy, and so that battle is going to

1013
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: go into the fall. And look, I don't love Washington

1014
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: in this spot because I think the stadium will be

1015
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: electric for that matchup, because it's just Washington could come

1016
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: in as like the number seventeen nineteen whatever in the

1017
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: country at that point. I think Washington's Boise State to

1018
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: open up the season. So I don't know. Weird things

1019
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: happen with Pack twelve powers in Boise State, I suppose,

1020
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: But Michigan State plays again, correct me here, you're my

1021
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: point of accuracy. Here does Michigan State play two home

1022
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: games between Week four and week thirteen.

1023
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: Between week four and week thirteen, they've got a home

1024
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: game against Michigan and a home game against Nebraska.

1025
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

1026
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: They close out the year at home against Penn State

1027
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: for the pseudo rivalry. But yeah, it's it's sort of

1028
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: a Fetichini Alfredo situation just with being on the road

1029
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: so much.

1030
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: There's so much like for a team that's in this

1031
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: much flux, they don't know where they are at quarterback.

1032
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: The offense was a nightmare last year. The defense was

1033
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: a nightmare last year. The offensive line was beat up,

1034
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: Like everything kind of went wrong last year. They kind

1035
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: of got it together a little bit as they got

1036
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: healthier throughout the season. There were guys on defense especially

1037
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: that seemed to pop. But really being away from home

1038
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: this much early on, like, I don't know how much

1039
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: Central Michigan and Richmond are going to prepare you for Washington.

1040
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm down at the moment. I'm willing to buy in

1041
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: if one of those quarterbacks works out, and it was

1042
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: a quarterback issue and it was a health issue last year,

1043
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: and there are two If Michigan State is fine, if

1044
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: they're not great, if they're not going to threaten double

1045
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: digit wins. But if they're fine, there's a lot of

1046
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: teams on this schedule that could break the other way. No, right,

1047
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: we don't know what Nebrasa is gonna be. We don't

1048
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: know what Indiana is going to be. You're down on Minnesota.

1049
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: I happen to think Minnesota is gonna be fine. Rutgers

1050
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: looks like a nightmare, bad like you could see them

1051
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 2: cobbling together Bowl eligibility. But I think a lot rides

1052
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 2: on quarterback is the most obvious way to evaluate this.

1053
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, that road stretch I am fully out on.

1054
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: It's close things out with Northwestern, Dan, I think we've

1055
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: hit every other team here. Yeah, in the Big Ten,

1056
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: we saved the best for a last. Northwestern, always Northwestern, Northwestern, Northwestern.

1057
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: You are the native son of the Chicago land area. Northwestern.

1058
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: Last season Dan was one and eleven. That one big

1059
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: win came in Ireland. They won exactly zero games in

1060
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: the contiguous United States.

1061
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no domestic w's.

1062
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: No domestic dubs for n dub. Looking at the slate

1063
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: this year, here is what we've got. We've got an

1064
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: opening road tilt at Rutgers. Okay, opening road tilt at

1065
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: Rutgers home against u Tip on the road at Duke,

1066
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: then home against Minnesota Penn State, and Howard after the

1067
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: bye at Nebraska, Maryland, Iowa both at home at Wisconsin

1068
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: home against Purdue at Illinois. If this is a relative measure,

1069
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: any schedule we put in front of Northwestern is probably

1070
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: going to look difficult. This challenging, This looks hard. What

1071
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: was your reaction to seeing this three and a half

1072
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: the over unders so Vegas, expecting a bit of an.

1073
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Speaker 2: Improvement if this were and look, Ben Bryant certainly improves

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Speaker 2: thing as a quarterback, which has been an issue for

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Speaker 2: Northwestern past couple of years. If we were talking about

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Speaker 2: a Northwestern team coached on defense by Mike Hankwitz and

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Speaker 2: had and we knew we weren't getting the type of like,

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Speaker 2: not great but okay performing it was Peyton Ramsey who

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Speaker 2: transferred for Indiana three years ago, two years ago. If

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Speaker 2: that were the situation, if we were guaranteed that situation,

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Speaker 2: or they'd have like an NFL offensive lineman or two

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Speaker 2: and good players, legit good players on defense coached by

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Speaker 2: one of the best and most underrated defensive coordinators of

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Speaker 2: the last fifteen years in Mike hankwits. They're gliding to

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Speaker 2: nine and three this year right with this schedule, specifically

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Speaker 2: gliding the home road splits are Okay, they miss who

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Speaker 2: do they miss? They missed Michigan, Ohio State. Yep, it's

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Speaker 2: a wonderful schedule to be your typical up year Northwestern.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if that's the reality in which

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Speaker 2: we live, and I don't know if we're getting back

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Speaker 2: to that point. So, yes, they can beat Rutgers, they

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Speaker 2: can beat utep do at Duke. I mean, they lost

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Speaker 2: that game last year at home, So that's tough. That's

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Speaker 2: two and one, two and two, two and three, maybe

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Speaker 2: three and three, three and four, three and five, three

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Speaker 2: and six.

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Speaker 1: You can always tell you in seven when you get

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Speaker 1: your wins, your first PI.

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Speaker 2: I think they can win four games. I think they

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Speaker 2: can improve from one to eleven to four and eight.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well you got to start it somewhere. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I look, I'm not actively rooting against Northwestern. It's just

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Speaker 1: been pretty bad and last season was a disaster.

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Speaker 2: I think Ben Bryant's a real quarterback. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 2: great starting point. He is, so but again, gliding to

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Speaker 2: nine glide.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that does it. Big ten schedule Preview twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three right in. Let us know your thoughts, Soliverblegmail dot

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Speaker 1: COM's the plain old fashion email. Reach out on social

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Speaker 1: media Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, where have you? Let us know

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Speaker 1: what your thoughts are on these schedules. Also, we'll post

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Speaker 1: clips out to YouTube as well as full episodes. You

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Speaker 1: can go out there and give a watch, give a listen, Dan.

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Speaker 1: Next up, we've got the PAC twelve power coming up,

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to be leaning on you pretty hard

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Speaker 1: here to give us context.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 1: We've got, of course, the PAC twelve media rights, the

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Speaker 1: wins swirling about what happens to the conference, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think that really has much of an effect on

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Speaker 1: the on field product, at least not for the kids

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Speaker 1: and coaches who are going to be putting on the

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Speaker 1: uniforms and going out there this fall. But getting awfully

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Speaker 1: big in the window. We will cover that as we

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Speaker 1: need to, but at time of recording, still waiting for

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Speaker 1: official word as to where the media thing heads. But

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve we will talk about Pack twelve on the

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Speaker 1: next episode. Great, We've got I believe acc coming after that.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to Group of five and Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: Well we'll think the Big Twelve a bone and review

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Speaker 2: their schedule as well. Forgot about the Big Twelve? How

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Speaker 2: about now you okay? And they're and even more fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Love with all the new teams coming in. Yeah, love

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Speaker 2: the Big Twelve all right?

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Speaker 1: Dan? Uh always fun. Make sure you're going out to

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Speaker 1: up to speed with what's going on college football. Done

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Speaker 1: for that guy there, I'm my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: for myself, Tie Hill the brand. Thanks for downloading, listening,

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Speaker 1: and of course it's always reporting the show. We will

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Speaker 1: talk to you all soon.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, stay solid, peace,