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Speaker 1: Welcome and Commander's family to the Next Man Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We talk to your favorite Commanders players, We talked to

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Speaker 1: some legends, were even talk to some big time Commanders fans,

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Speaker 1: and there's not so much Exson knows. It's about the

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Speaker 1: men behind the helmet. And this week we got a funnel.

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Speaker 1: We got the big man in the middle, Doran Pain,

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Speaker 1: talking all things Week one matchup against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: Then we get a national perspective. Mike Turrico joins the

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Speaker 1: show talk about the off season he's seen from the

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Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. And then we had to have the captain aboard. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's right, Big Fletch London Fletcher joins the show to

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Speaker 1: get your hype and to set the tone. That's all

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Speaker 1: our next man so nice. What's good, Commanders family, and

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Speaker 1: welcome into the Next Man Up Podcast. Our next man

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Speaker 1: up right now is our big man interior, Doran Pain. Brother.

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Speaker 1: How you doing man? Yeah, Man, good to see Bro.

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Speaker 1: We're happy to have you man in these crazy because

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Speaker 1: I've talked to Jonathan, I've taldal to, Bobby'll talk to

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Speaker 1: everybody on this defense with me and you we have

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Speaker 1: only wrapped about your car. We haven't got to talk

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Speaker 1: about all that, man, So let's get run into it

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Speaker 1: because you know, next man up, we like talking about

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Speaker 1: the man behind the helmet. So first things first, you're

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Speaker 1: going into the year seven. What was different about this

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Speaker 1: off season for you?

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Speaker 2: I mean off season for me is kind of the same.

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Speaker 2: Like I'll just be training, training hard, getting after getting

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Speaker 1: The only difference I.

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Speaker 2: Had I had a little girl and may so we

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Speaker 2: I just been training.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What is being a father done for you?

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Speaker 4: Man? Like?

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Speaker 1: Because I know me, When I became a dad, everything changed,

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Speaker 1: you know, I stopped being able to be selfish, and

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Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, I have something to work for,

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Speaker 1: something to live for. Is that what happened with you?

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Speaker 2: No, definitely, Like I just enjoyed just being able to

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a fun experience and a lot

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Speaker 2: of sleepless nights, you know, but it's cool.

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Speaker 1: No, I like it. You think she's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: daddy's girl.

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Speaker 1: So they say about daughters, is that like you know,

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Speaker 1: they're the ones that's for the dad. You know, I

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Speaker 1: got a son, he's all about his mama. So I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: if one day I have a girl and hopefully she

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Speaker 1: all about her dad and congratulations all that, man's that's

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Speaker 1: a big deal. And I mean it's not just you

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Speaker 1: What about this season it's so different for you.

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Speaker 2: Shoot, I just feel like we got a bunch going

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Speaker 2: Like they're all about just bettering us and finding ways

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Speaker 2: On Sundays, they try to help us. So I feel

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Speaker 1: And not every guy has been here as long as

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Speaker 1: you're right, you're really an elder statesman here. You've been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, the coaching staff and all of the extra

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Speaker 1: So trying to just do things the right way. Now

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Speaker 2: So it's cool, man, just like I play with our

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Speaker 1: The things I like to do.

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Speaker 1: Your guy that's given out a lot of information now

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Speaker 2: I talked to him a little bit. It's hard because

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Speaker 1: But when he be working in and stuff.

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Speaker 1: And year seven it sounds like a lot brou Clearly,

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Speaker 2: I feel like just year seven, it's all about like

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Speaker 2: But I feel like it helps me become better. Like

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Speaker 2: just like I said, well, Arcade, man, I learned stuff

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I used to watch him come in and roll out

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Speaker 1: Is it weird though, like now that you're that role

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I know I be.

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Speaker 2: I can see like when we get new guys in, like,

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Speaker 1: And you got week one coming up the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Man,

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Speaker 1: what is the expectation for you in this defense when

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Speaker 1: y'all go face the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for Week one?

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Speaker 1: Should run and hit.

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Speaker 2: That's what That's what we go do on Sunday Man,

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Speaker 1: But SHO gonna go run and here some last question.

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Speaker 1: Last time he was on Next Man Up, I asked

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Speaker 1: you who's the best interior duo in the NFL? You said,

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Speaker 1: the NFL? Today?

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Speaker 2: So we go, Man, we go put something on tape

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Speaker 2: this year. Man, I'm excited. It's gonna be a good year.

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Speaker 1: And we can't wait to see you man Drown. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for your time. Bro. We know you're

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Speaker 1: a busy man and can't wait to see you ball

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Speaker 1: out on Tampa. Brother, appreciate you. Now command this family

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Speaker 1: for our next man up. I feel like we need

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Speaker 1: Am you winner, mister Mike Tarrico? How you doing like Ron?

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Speaker 4: Good to be with the Acney football season?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, thank you so much. There's no better time

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Speaker 1: than football season. But you might feel differently because you

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Speaker 1: were just in Paddi. You were in Paris covering the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: First of all, congratulations, you killed it, as you always do,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, our team killed it. It was a wonderful experience

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Speaker 4: to sharing that with our entire group. It was really exciting,

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Speaker 4: I think to see the Olympics resonate with American viewers again.

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Speaker 4: For a lot of people at a certain age, you

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Speaker 4: then lost a little bit of luster for a variety

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Speaker 4: of reasons. Could be because of the last tuber COVID.

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Speaker 4: No fans really haven't had a city that has been

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Speaker 4: one of those telegenic, magical cities since London. Rio could

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Speaker 4: have been, but Zika virus, other things kind of took

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Speaker 4: a little bit of the luster from Rio. But Paris

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Speaker 4: was a star. Team USA was a star. We had,

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Speaker 4: you know, everybody from Martha Stewart to Kelly Clarkson and

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Speaker 4: I think you just see the broad swath of America

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Speaker 4: that loves being around the Olympics. And it was nice

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Speaker 4: to see our country unified around something for the first

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Speaker 1: And what a place to be at, right Paris, France,

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Speaker 1: and out of all the five that you've done. You know,

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Speaker 1: Paris Olympics?

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Speaker 4: Well, I rank as the top of the five that

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Speaker 4: I've done. But more importantly, people at NBC have done

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Speaker 4: thirteen fourteen Olympic Games say it's right up there with

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Speaker 4: the best they've ever done. Many of them points to

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Speaker 4: London in twenty twelve, which was so good. Vancouver had

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Speaker 4: a tremendous Winter Games, you know, but I think Paris

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Speaker 4: Use that arm strength and understanding of throwing the football

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00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 4: to keep yourself in position to threaten all the time,

438
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 4: and then just be the most steady person in the building.

439
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 4: I think all those things together are going to help

440
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 4: make him an elite quarterback the whole you know, the

441
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 4: superstar thing. That's Patrick Mahomes, right. Lamar Jackson some mays

442
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 4: as a superstar because he's won two MVPs. He's also

443
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 4: only won a couple of playoff games, right, So what

444
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 4: defines ultimately a superstar. It's hard to say. It's different

445
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 4: for everybody. I'll take Lamar Jackson on my team anytime, right,

446
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 4: the same with Patrick Mahomes. But sometimes how we measure

447
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 4: the guys depends on the team around you and the

448
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 4: success that the team has, not just your stats or

449
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,239
Speaker 4: your individual awards that you get. So James got all

450
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 4: the tools patients in time. I know Washington Defense been frustrated.

451
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 4: It's been a long time since the team's been over

452
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 4: five hundred and good. But I think Patients will be

453
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 4: the thing that will pay off for this organization over

454
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 4: the next couple of years for the great gem of

455
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 4: a quarterback in Jadon Daniels and Mike.

456
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: We appreciates your perspective so much. Before we let you go,

457
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: I have to ask you about Week one against the

458
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. What do the Commanders need to do

459
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: to find success against the Buccaneers.

460
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 4: This league, we always talk about quarterbacks, right, Well, let's

461
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 4: start for one second on the other side of the ball.

462
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 4: What we've seen from Tampa. We had him in a

463
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 4: playoff game of Detroit last year. What a good defensive

464
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 4: team they are. And it doesn't matter who's out there

465
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 4: on a regular basis, that Tampa defense gives your problems

466
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 4: with different looks, good secondary play, so will not be easy.

467
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 4: And being a first game for a rookie quarterback, you

468
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 4: know that there's gonna be a lot that Todd Bowles

469
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 4: shows Jaman Daniels sort of looks and blitzes and pressures

470
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. On the other side, offensively, Baker

471
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 4: Mayfield had a really good season last year. And Baker

472
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,479
Speaker 4: told us before the playoff game is his perspective, finding

473
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 4: a place where he cared what was cared about and

474
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 4: could fit has helped him develop as leader. I'm bouncing

475
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: around a little bit, did too. And it's funny remember

476
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 4: that game against the ram or for the Rams or

477
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 4: he came in last minute on a Thursday night, played

478
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 4: a terrific game, and it was game his career a

479
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 4: little bit of a resurrection. Well look what he did

480
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: last year in Tampa. Very steady, not superstar numbers, but

481
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 4: he got a team built around him, and I think

482
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 4: that they're in the same position again this year. People

483
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 4: don't talk about him going in. Atlanta's the flavor of

484
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 4: the month in the NFC South because of all their moves,

485
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 4: and they should be. They made some great moves, starting

486
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 4: with Kirk Cousins and going all the way through trading

487
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 4: for Matthew Judon. I think they'll be an exciting team

488
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 4: on offense with Jon Robinson and what they have in

489
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: London and Pitts and all that stuff. But Tampa won

490
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 4: that division and Tampa has built a nice team, so

491
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 4: this is a not an easy test or task. A

492
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 4: Week one game against a Florida team was always a challenge.

493
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 4: There are a lot of things are going to factor

494
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 4: into this, but a really good matchup, one of those

495
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: under the radar Week one matchups that maybe it doesn't

496
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 4: have the sizzle of Kansas City Baltimore or playoff rematch

497
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 4: a Detroit and the LA Rams, but this might be

498
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: one of the better games a Week one. I'm really

499
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 4: looking forward to seeing what Washington looks like with all

500
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 4: the starters out there.

501
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: Mike We're so excited to see what Washington does this year,

502
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: and we're excited to see what you do. We know

503
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna kill it for Sunday Night Football. Mike, thank

504
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: you so much for taking the time to hang with us.

505
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: We know you're a very busy man, and I hope

506
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: you have a great season.

507
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: Our pleasure you keep pushing for our guy Fletch to

508
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 4: get to the Hall of Fame. It's a great cause

509
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 4: to continue on. We love that and we as we

510
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 4: said when we left Washington to some of the folks there,

511
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 4: Josh Harris, the new ownership group, we look forward to

512
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 4: Washington getting better and being on Sunday Night Football, whether

513
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 4: it's a flex this year or during the regular season

514
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: down the line, because it's so nice to get back

515
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 4: to the district and see this franchise get turned back around.

516
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: So hopefully we'll see it sooner than later.

517
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: Hopefully we see you see them, Mike. I like that energy.

518
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 4: You can talk to you soon. Man, All right, man,

519
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: take care. Brian, thank you, have a great seat.

520
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: Command his family. Our next man up. He's one of

521
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: the best linebackers to ever do it. Over two thousand

522
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: total tackles. He's second in total tackles in the NFL,

523
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: second in solo tackles in the NFL thirty nine sacks

524
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: in his career went d three prior to John Carroll.

525
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: And it's not just what he did on the field.

526
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: He's also an Emmy nominated host of the show Players

527
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: Club sixteen NFL seasons. This legend did right here and

528
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: should be in the Hall of Fame very soon. Got

529
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: to welcome in the next man up, London Fletcher brother.

530
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: How you doing man, I'm doing great. Man.

531
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 5: I think as you were reading off my resume, I

532
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 5: feel like I'm more proud of the Immy nominated players

533
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 5: because you know what's that's kind of getting me out

534
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 5: of my element. I've been an athlete my whole life,

535
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 5: play football, whether it was in the sandlote or obviously

536
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 5: playing in the NFL or tackle or whatever for a

537
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 5: long period of time. But doing this television thing that's

538
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 5: different for us. So to become Emmy nominated, that's a

539
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 5: big feather in my cap.

540
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, it's gonna be Emmy winning pretty soon, man,

541
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: because you put in work, not just like I said

542
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: on the field, but you would do it every time

543
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: you're in this studio. Man, we see how seriously you

544
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 1: take things. Man, So first things first, where does that

545
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: work ethic come from?

546
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: You know what, It's just kind of innately how I am.

547
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 5: I study other people who are doing, you know, whatever

548
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 5: the craft may be.

549
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 3: So let's take it.

550
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 5: For example, when I was playing football, I would study

551
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 5: the other middle linebackers that I considered great, whether it's

552
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 5: Ray Lewis, Brian Irlacker, Zach Thomas, guys who were doing great,

553
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 5: even some young guys like a Bobby Wagner, who's who's

554
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 5: here now currently, Patrick will and some of the other guys.

555
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 5: So I would study them see what they were doing,

556
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 5: and also study myself to see how I can improve

557
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: and I can be the best. And as it comes

558
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 5: to this, what I'm doing now, either on the radio

559
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 5: calling games with Brown, listening to the calls, doing the

560
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 5: stuff in studio, going back watching the shows and saying, okay,

561
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 5: I can need to be better here this, how the

562
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 5: show can be better. Things like that, just really just

563
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 5: always striving to be the best that I possibly can be.

564
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: Even in the film room, even analysts, oh yeah, absolutely

565
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: so bad. I gotta ask because I go down that

566
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: list and I miss things, right, you're a super Bowl champion.

567
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: I mentioned that you went D three also undrafted sixteen seasons. Man,

568
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: all of these things that you could just list off

569
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: about you. When did you know you were gonna be

570
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: an NFL play? Because I don't think many D three

571
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: guys are sitting here saying, you know what, I'm about

572
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: to have a sixteen year career. Man, when'd you know?

573
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: Man? I didn't know until I made the team because

574
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: nothing there.

575
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 5: Because when you think about it, even before I made

576
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 5: the team. In the Rams, I'll go back to when

577
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 5: I was at John Carroll Division III school. I'm playing

578
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 5: at a Division three school. And mind you, out of

579
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 5: high school I played. I only played one year of

580
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 5: high school football. I was a basketball guy.

581
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: Through and through. That was my first love.

582
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 5: Ended up getting a Division one basketball scholarship by the

583
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 5: high school went to Saint Francis, PA up in Loreto, PA.

584
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 5: I had Division one offers for football, but my heart

585
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 5: was set on playing Division one basketball. I said, man,

586
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 5: this face needs to be seeing. I don't need to

587
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 5: I don't need to have the camero. I mean, no

588
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 5: hemming on this face. This face needs to be seen.

589
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: So and also Ohio State and Michigan offered me. I

590
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 5: preferred walk on spots to play football at both of

591
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 5: those schools, and I was just like, nah, I'm not

592
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: you know, my heart is set on basketball. I'm definitely

593
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 5: not gonna walk on at the place if I got

594
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 5: I've had football offers. Took the scholarship to Saint Francis, PA.

595
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 5: Was there for a year and a half. It was

596
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 5: some a lot of stuff going on at home in Cleveland.

597
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: Some people know my story about some of the challenge

598
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 5: I faced from a family situation with my mom and

599
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 5: things like that. So need to be back close to

600
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 5: the home. So end up transferring to John Carroll Division

601
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 5: IREE school. When you go from Division one to Division three,

602
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 5: you don't have to sit out, so I was able

603
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: to play right away. I transferred to the middle of

604
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 5: the school year. So from the winter semester to the

605
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 5: spring semester, who's when I transferred, went right to the

606
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 5: basketball court. Then the next fall played football and basketball

607
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 5: and on the football field, my coaches at that time

608
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 5: with like, Man, London, I think you can play in

609
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 5: the NFL. I was like, man, whatever, you know, kind

610
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 5: of kind of like well whatever, And end up working

611
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 5: out to where football became my passion. Ended up playing

612
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 5: at a high, high level, drawing a lot of getting

613
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 5: a lot of buzz, and NFL teams start coming around,

614
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 5: But I'm still not feeling like I'm gonna definitely make

615
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: it to the NFL. Still undersize I was five ten

616
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 5: two thirty two thirty five playing them linebacker. It didn't

617
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 5: really you know, it's not a lot of guys at

618
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 5: that size playing in the NFL.

619
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: So was I gonna be in the safety things like that?

620
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 5: It wasn't until I read an article by the late

621
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 5: great Sam Mills, long time lineback in the NFL, actually

622
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 5: recent the Hall of Famer, and he talked about Sam

623
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 5: was five to nine, two hundred maybe twenty pounds even

624
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 5: less than less and shorter and way less, and he

625
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 5: talked about his technique and all the things, and like

626
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 5: it gave me great confidence, like, man, maybe I can

627
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 5: do this by reading that article that was in Sports

628
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 5: Illustrated from on Sam Mills, and from there it got

629
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 5: confidence and confidence. And once I got to the Rams,

630
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 5: it was like, oh, you know what, I'm I'm gonna

631
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 5: give it all I got. And I didn't make up

632
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 5: end up making that team as undrafted rookie and.

633
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: Then you win a super Bowl in year two. But

634
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: you said it, You said you didn't feel comfortable to

635
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: you made the team, and I know you probably didn't

636
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: even feel comfortable after you made the team. Then put

637
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: a chip on your shoulder right when you have to

638
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: make it and grind your way too, like to the top,

639
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: to the part you're trying to get to. When did

640
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: you lose that? When did you ever? Do you ever

641
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: feel comfortable on an NFL roster saying you know what

642
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: this is my spots? I mean, like again, sixteen years

643
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: along on top.

644
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 5: I always find, always find some type of thing to

645
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 5: motivate me, even when I was, you know, fighting to

646
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 5: make the Rams team.

647
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: So I had that chip on my shoulder.

648
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 5: You know, they got me fourth on the depth chart

649
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 5: at the lineback position when really there's only room for

650
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 5: three to get reps. So I'm not getting a whole

651
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 5: lot of reps. I'm using that as a motivating, motivate,

652
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 5: motivating factor. When I became a starter my second year

653
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 5: with the Rams, ESPN the magazine had a had a

654
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 5: season preview and there's you know, like hey, if London

655
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 5: Fletcher is starting by Halloween, will.

656
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: Buy your car. So they're doubting me.

657
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 5: Wow, So I'm using that That magazine sat on my

658
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 5: coffee table the entire season.

659
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so like they on be a car.

660
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: You know, I ended up being the starting middle linebacker

661
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 5: in that Super Bowl, and you know throughout my career

662
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 5: being snug for the Pro Bowls, that was motivating. Those

663
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 5: are motivating factors. Hell, I could be coming to the stadium,

664
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 5: a home stadium, and I don't see enough of my jerseys,

665
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 5: it says, so I'm missed off about that. That's motivating. Like, yoh, y'all,

666
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 5: y'all don't respect me. My own fans don't even respect me.

667
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 5: So I always found something to motivate me, some some

668
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 5: little thing that just keep me going.

669
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: It's that Mama mentality right where you got those things

670
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: where you just got to find those things to.

671
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 5: Keep going, something something to have you playing on the edge,

672
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: playing with an edge like I.

673
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: Actually I liked it.

674
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 5: Like I There was times where I didn't speak to

675
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 5: my coaches for a week just because of like for

676
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 5: a whole week going into a game, just because I

677
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 5: was I was on the edge so much already.

678
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: It's just do you ever shape that though, like, now

679
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: we're here, go through those accolades second in so many categories,

680
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: only the ray Lewis, who we know is a Hall

681
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: of Famer, who he knows has that bus? Do you

682
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: carry that with you knowing that you should be in

683
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame right now? Man? Do you feel

684
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: that chips still where you're like, you know what, they

685
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: don't got my jersey, they don't got me in the

686
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? You still feel that.

687
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 5: I do, But it's like I can't do anything about it.

688
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 5: I can't go make any more tackles. But I'm about

689
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 5: almost fifty years old, so I can't go back on

690
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 5: the field and add to my resume. I can't go

691
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 5: get that fortyeth sack, you know, things like that. But

692
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 5: I yeah, I feel a great deal of disrespect still

693
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 5: when you look at my numbers and you know you

694
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 5: compare to guys who are in the Hall of Fame

695
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 5: at my position. Some of them were First Battle of

696
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 5: Hall of Famers, Second Battle Hall of Famers, and my

697
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 5: numbers are as good or better than a lot of

698
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 5: guys that are already in the Hall of Fame. So yeah, yes,

699
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 5: definitely I still have a chip on my shoulder about that.

700
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 5: But the only thing is like I can't do anything

701
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 5: like physically about it.

702
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Why do you think

703
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: Leonda Fletcher is not in the Hall of Fame. You

704
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: have the statistics, you have, the resume, you have, the personality,

705
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: the longevity, you didn't miss games, you were a leader,

706
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: you were a captain. Why isn't Leondar Fletcher in the

707
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame?

708
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 5: I think part of it maybe kind of the way

709
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 5: I entered the NFL, being an undrafted guy, wasn't a

710
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 5: first round draft pick from a Power five school, so

711
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 5: that probably played a part in it. Playing in the

712
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: small market team, two small market teams, and Buffalo and

713
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 5: Saint Louis, you don't get to garner a lot of attention.

714
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 5: Our offense gained a garnered a lot of attention in

715
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 5: Saint Louis, the greatest show on turf, But defensively you're not.

716
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 5: You know, people don't realize how great of a defense

717
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 5: we had during those Super Bowl runs, those Super Bowl teams, Like,

718
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 5: nobody knows how great we were defensively until you really

719
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 5: look at like, damn stud they ball once. I feel

720
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 5: like this, if I had played my entire career career

721
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 5: in Washington, my reputation would have been a lot greater

722
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 5: name recognition, all those types of things. I would have

723
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 5: made more Pro Bowls because I didn't even make a

724
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl until I got to Washington. But just those things,

725
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 5: I feel definitely I played sixteen years in Washington, I'm

726
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 5: gonna be in a lot of big games, playing in

727
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 5: the on the East Coast, bigger media market. I'm first

728
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 5: val battle with the same stats that I put up.

729
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, even with all this being overlooked in

730
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: your life. Man, when you when I deal with you,

731
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: because you know this is different for us, Like we

732
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: don't sit here and do this right. We work together,

733
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: we do shows and things like that, but we don't

734
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: really get to sit and.

735
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: Read about each other being silly, you know.

736
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: But like you know this show as you know, because

737
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: you said you listen, it's not just about you know,

738
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: the players and the helmet. It's about that man behind

739
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: them and getting to hear you talk and see you

740
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: not just here but just every day. Man, you're so

741
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: humble and you're so cool for somebody doesn't have to

742
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: be either one of the best to ever do it.

743
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: And even right now you're talking about the Hall of Fame.

744
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: You're like, well, I can't do nothing about it.

745
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's you know, it's it's I can't like

746
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 5: there's a political element of it.

747
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: I just say or I say, just say campaign and

748
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 3: peace for sure.

749
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 5: That you know some guys have to do when they're

750
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 5: when they're done playing. I'm like, man, I don't want

751
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 5: to do that because my accomplishments on the field should

752
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 5: be enough.

753
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: They speak for itself, they speak for itself.

754
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 5: But it's you know, unfortunately, there's there's an element of

755
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 5: that that you got to deal with too.

756
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: But I think what you're doing now right being the host,

757
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: being an analyst, showing different sides you you're a coach

758
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: and you're a leader.

759
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 4: Man.

760
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: You you help these guys in this building, and I

761
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: think that that goes a long way in helping push

762
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: that forward and helping saying you know what I know

763
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: for a fact one day Leondon Fletcher be in the

764
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and again talking about that man behind

765
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: the mask. You mentioned some of the trials and tribulations

766
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: back home. For those that aren't familiar with what you are

767
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: talking about, do you mind talking about that a little bit,

768
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: just so we have a better understanding of who the

769
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: man London Fletcher is, because clearly things had to take

770
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: place for you to make you this man.

771
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 5: Yes, So, just growing up in the inner city of Cleveland,

772
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 5: and like inner cities in general, there's a lot of

773
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 5: challenges you face in the home, in the neighborhood, in

774
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: the schools. I wasn't unique from that standpoint. My situation

775
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 5: was very challenging. Had an older sister six years older

776
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 5: than me, murdered when I was when she was eighteen.

777
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 3: I was eleven years old.

778
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 5: I hadn't turned twelve yet she was murdered, you know,

779
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 5: she had just turned eighteen. So that mom dealing with

780
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 5: a drug addiction for the probably started a couple of

781
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 5: years after that. So from the time I was about fourteen,

782
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 5: by my mom's drug addiction, just a lot of challenges

783
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: that I faced, even trying to.

784
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: Make it out of the neighborhood that I was in.

785
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: You know, I got trauma inside the house, trauma in

786
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 5: the neighborhood that you're dealing with, all those types of

787
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 5: things that like, man, it could have been very easy

788
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 5: for me to say, you know what, I'm good, I

789
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 5: give up I'm gonna do I'm gonna take another path.

790
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 5: But one of the things that help me, not one

791
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 5: of the things. The thing that I know helped me

792
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 5: was my passion for sports, and my love for it

793
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 5: was basketball, but I also loved playing football.

794
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: But just I wanted to play in the NBA.

795
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: So it was like, I gotta go to college, I

796
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 5: gotta get good grades, all these things types of things.

797
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 5: So I needed to put myself in a better position

798
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 5: to achieve the goal that I wanted, which was playing

799
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: in the NBA. But and once it even shifted from

800
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 5: playing the NBA to just I want to bring a

801
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 5: smile to my mother's face. Let me make her proud.

802
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 5: Graduate college. So those are the things that motivated me

803
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: graduating college. And then once I got to the Rams, like,

804
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 5: I'm not just fighting for me to make this team,

805
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 5: I'm fighting for my family, my livelihood, our survival. So

806
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: even after the first after my first year with the Rams,

807
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 5: I barely spent any any money living in a that

808
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 5: was in a apartment that costs about six hundred dollars

809
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 5: a month fully furnest. Like just like I'm stacking all

810
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 5: my you know whatever, Uncle Sam to take I'm stacking.

811
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 5: After that seed was over, Man, I bought my mom

812
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 5: a house, got her up out of the neighborhood that

813
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: we were in. Like, it's just like I still continue

814
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 5: to live in an apartment, Like I don't.

815
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: I'm good, Like, let me get her better?

816
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: Is that the moment where you say, Okay, I've accomplished,

817
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: Because when you have these goals and you have these

818
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: like markers you try to hit in life, right, it

819
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: doesn't always necessarily feel like enough, like you get you

820
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: make it to an NFL. Well, now I want to

821
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: be a starter. I wanta start well now I want

822
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: to get to the Pro Bowl. O. Why I got

823
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: a sup wotloe? Now I want another one? All these

824
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: things right, It's probably the same thing when your goal

825
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: is to make your mother proud. Was that the moment

826
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: right there when you felt like you accomplished that goal

827
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: or is that something that was just ongoing for you your

828
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: whole career.

829
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 5: I can remember the night I took her to the

830
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 5: house because she she hadn't seen the house prior to us,

831
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 5: to me buying it for her. I fully furnished it,

832
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 5: you know, I told her, don't bring anything but her clothes. Wow,

833
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 5: Like don't bring anything but your clothes. And so I

834
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 5: remember taking her to the house and just her and

835
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 5: my two younger sisters taking them to the house and

836
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 5: just to see that amount of joy that she had

837
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 5: and when I took her into the house, and that

838
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 5: was just that was a moment for me, like, man,

839
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 5: that's it right there.

840
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: So from there everything else was really ic. To know.

841
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: The cake told what that moment, he said, you're good?

842
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: What does your mom say to you? It was the

843
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: first thing because like those kind of memories right when,

844
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: you never forget it. You know what you were wearing,

845
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: you know what it smelled like, you know what the

846
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: room look like? What did your mom say to you?

847
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: Ah?

848
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 5: Man, she was so she was so proud, so happy,

849
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 5: like she just my mom. She's she's deceased now. But

850
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 5: she had the biggest smile and just you know, always

851
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: just a great smile. And I could just remember her

852
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 5: just smiling from cheek the ear to ear. Man, just

853
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 5: just so happy, you know, because she you know, she

854
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 5: had never had anything like that. And it wasn't it

855
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 5: was a minus home. It wasn't you know, anything lavish

856
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 5: or anything. I wasn't making a whole lot of money,

857
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 5: you know, but for her just to have that that experience,

858
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 5: like and it was just just continue to be just

859
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 5: so appreciative and proud and and even from there, like

860
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 5: I continue to Yeah, I want to be great, I

861
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 5: want to become a starter and accomplish things in my career.

862
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 5: But I always was motivated to provide a better life

863
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 5: for them.

864
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: So you have these accomplishments, you have these dreams, well

865
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: you hit them pretty quickly. You make the NFL, you

866
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: win your Super Bowl, you have a little career many

867
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: you hit for a little bit, and then you come

868
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: to Washington, and that's what people really care about, right,

869
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: But that's what they're here to hear about Washington. You

870
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: were older, just like a Bobby Wagner, Right, You were

871
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 1: an older guy that has already established himself. So what's

872
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: going through your mind when you come here to Washington

873
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: for that first time?

874
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 5: You know, when I when I came here, I was

875
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: going into year twelve. I was thirty two. I think

876
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 5: I just turned thirty two. What's going through my mind?

877
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 5: I had played for Greg Williams. Greg was my head

878
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 5: coach and he was a defensive coordinator here in Washington.

879
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 5: So I was familiar with with this game, Several of

880
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 5: the pretty much entire defensive staff came from Buffalo, maybe

881
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 5: with a couple of guys that were on that staff

882
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 5: here in Washington that wasn't in Buffalo. But Jerry Gray,

883
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 5: who was a defensive backs coach here. He was my

884
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 5: defensive coordinator under Greg Williams in Buffalo. Him, Steve Jackson,

885
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 5: another guy. It's like maybe three or four guys on

886
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 5: the defensive staff that I was familiar with. So the

887
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 5: scheme standpoint, I was comfortable with. I knew what they

888
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 5: wanted me to do. They wanted me to be a

889
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 5: leader on the team. They they needed my leadership, but

890
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 5: they also needed my playmaking. And it's similar, lots, very

891
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 5: similar to what Bobby's going through. You want, you want

892
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 5: his leadership, but you also want his play making. Like

893
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 5: it's hard to be a leader if you ain't making play.

894
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 5: So you know, coming here, I signed a five year

895
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 5: contract at that point in time, like, okay, hopefully I'll

896
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 5: be able to play three of these years out.

897
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: You just don't know.

898
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 5: You don't know, But man, I came here and I

899
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 5: just loved it, and I truly tried to when I

900
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 5: put on that burgundy and gold helmet, that burgundy and

901
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: gold uniform.

902
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: I knew the tradition, I grew knew the history. I

903
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: grew up loving football, So I can remember the hall.

904
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: I can remember John Riggins, I can remember Dale Green,

905
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: Art Monk, some of the other greats that played in

906
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: the organization. Coach Gibbs. Coach Gibbs was my head coach.

907
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 3: Coach Gibbs.

908
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 5: He was the one who called me at twelve or

909
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 5: one in the morning when when free agencies started, I

910
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 5: pick up the fall. It's Coach Gibbs, like, hello, lone

911
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 5: of this Coach Gibbs with the Washington redskis.

912
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, let's go up. Hey, loved it.

913
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 5: I want you to come to Washington, all right, Coach,

914
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 5: Let's make it happen. So, so I knew the history,

915
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 5: I knew the tradition. I knew what it meant to

916
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 5: represent the guys who played before me, represent the current players,

917
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 5: but then also leave a legacy myself. So when I

918
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 5: when I, when I stepped on that field, man, I

919
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 5: was representing all those things like you, I don't and

920
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 5: I knew right at that time, Washington had a reputation

921
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 5: signing older, older, bigger name free agents and paying them

922
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 5: a bunch of money and they not paying out.

923
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: That wasn't gonna be me.

924
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 5: Actually, I think you know, people may have thought, Okay,

925
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 5: here's another one on signing. They're like, now, y'all don't

926
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 5: know me, y'all don't know me, y'all don't know what

927
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 5: I'm about. Like, if anything, y'all get in a bargain.

928
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: Another one of those motivation Parkers that said, you know what,

929
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show y'all what I'm about here, so real quick,

930
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: while we're talking about you signing, because you know, got

931
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: you a little bag when you signed up here in Washington.

932
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: Is it true that Fred Smooth had like something to

933
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: like do with your like story signing. Like I've heard

934
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: this before, you know, Fred, y'all always joking around. I

935
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 1: never know what's true.

936
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: So Fred, no, Noah, it's true. It's true.

937
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 5: From the standpoint Fred and I both were okay. So

938
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 5: Fred had got drafted by Washington, went to Minnesota for

939
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 5: a couple of couple of seasons, they.

940
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: Got rid of me.

941
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 5: Then Washington brought it back and we were on our

942
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 5: we were on our visits together the same day and uh,

943
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 5: we're riding down in a limo from from the park

944
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 5: down to a Widgets game, And by the time we

945
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 5: left the park, we're still, you know, kind of a

946
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: ways away from a contractor.

947
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: Man you need.

948
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, So by the time we hit the UK, it

949
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 5: was the Verizon Center back then maybe it's a m C. I.

950
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 5: By the time we got there, the deal was sealed.

951
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 5: They had met my contractual demand.

952
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: But Fred was in.

953
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 5: He was in the limo ride, you know, do contracting

954
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 5: that time too. I think they needed he needed a

955
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 5: little bit. They had to take care of me first.

956
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: I was.

957
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to imagine, like you and a younger

958
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: Fred Smooth in the limit. Had you met Fred yet?

959
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 5: No, it was it wasn't just us in the car.

960
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 5: It was it was Fred nine, a couple of coaches,

961
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 5: maybe a couple of other current players or players who

962
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 5: were on the team at that point in time. So

963
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 5: he was Fred gonna always be Fred, be loud as hell.

964
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: He was on Fred behavior. That's just so he was

965
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 5: being being him, doing what he does. And so, uh,

966
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 5: I think they end up maybe Fred Fred's deal got

967
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 5: done the next day after they they had to kind

968
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 5: of recover from my deal to see what was left there. Yeah,

969
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 5: let's see what we can. What we can you know,

970
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 5: throw your way.

971
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: It's so funny cause we could laugh right because you know,

972
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: we know Fred, we know tan all these guys because

973
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: they stick stuck around, And to me, that is what

974
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: is most impressive to me about Washington and the Legends,

975
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: all the different places I've been, is the way that

976
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: the players have stuck with the organization. Even though this

977
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: wasn't your first organization, even though Fred had of other organizations,

978
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: even though Tanner started somewhere else, all of you guys

979
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: decided to make Washington home. Why was that?

980
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 5: Man, It's beautiful here. It's just the the amount of

981
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 5: love we get in the community. Like I can go

982
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 5: into d C. Man, I love going to the city.

983
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 5: People just give you love and then they don't overwhelm,

984
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 5: they don't avoid invaders personal space.

985
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: Like Man, London, what's up?

986
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 5: Man? You know, Man, you're my favorite just man, always

987
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 5: love the way you play, just like it's it's love here.

988
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 5: It's not a it's just different man, it's Chocolate City.

989
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 5: It's just you know, you got the the DMV. Like

990
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 5: you can go to the three the three municipalities and

991
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 5: just received that type of love, and you know it's

992
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 5: just something about all the great food here, the football time.

993
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 5: I can't wait till we really get get going like

994
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: we need to be going. Like Man, I had those

995
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 5: burguety and gold faith for it at those games.

996
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: Man, just I.

997
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 5: Again, I wish and I appreciate what I accomplished in

998
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 5: Buffalo and also Saint Louis and a lot of great relationships,

999
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 5: and you know, winning super Bowl in Saint Louis. But man,

1000
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 5: my time here was special and the way they embraced me,

1001
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 5: especially the fan base.

1002
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: I'm forever grateful.

1003
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: You talk about those good ol daiess. I can see

1004
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: the twinkle in your eye you talk about and winning

1005
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: football and what it means to this fan base to

1006
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: be winning. How close do you think we are to

1007
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: getting back to that promised land, getting back into the playoffs,

1008
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: getting back to being super Bowl contenders, those things that

1009
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: you remember doing as a player. Here in Washington.

1010
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 5: When I look at the team, I see a product

1011
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 5: that will be extremely proud of. That's what you want

1012
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 5: to be from a fan, from a guy who supports

1013
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 5: the team, somebody who is really a Washington Commander's fan.

1014
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 5: You want to be proud of the product, win or lose.

1015
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 5: I see what dan Quinn is, the environment that he's doing,

1016
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 5: the culture, the right type of culture. Everybody has a culture,

1017
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 5: but he is the right type of culture. I can

1018
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 5: see the way Adam Peters is going about building the team.

1019
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 5: I could see the way, you know, mister Harrison and

1020
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 5: the ownership group is going about doing things and trying

1021
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 5: to improve the facilities both here at the practice facility

1022
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 5: and also at the stadium, just trying to do the

1023
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 5: things the right way and build something that's sustainable. Well,

1024
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 5: you want to a product that's a team that's competing

1025
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 5: year in and year out, and that takes that takes

1026
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 5: a little bit of a time, but for me, it

1027
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 5: would it would not surprise me if three years down

1028
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 5: a road, we're looking at it consistent, consistent, highly competitive

1029
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 5: team that's competing for division championships, uh in conference championships

1030
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 5: and super Bowls. And that's not saying, hey, we're not

1031
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 5: gonna win this year, but I'm just saying in terms

1032
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 5: of like, when you've you've built everything up to right

1033
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 5: the way you want it to be, your rosters, the

1034
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 5: way you want it to be, your you got the

1035
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 5: right infrastructure in place to really have a sustainable, winning

1036
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 5: culture and winning team. You know, it's it's definitely in

1037
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 5: that right on that right trajectory.

1038
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: And like you're saying, with anything, it takes time, right.

1039
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: And now you have on a different hat. Right, we

1040
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: knew you were the leader, we knew you were the

1041
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: legend in the locker room. But now you're wearing the

1042
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: analyst hat. But you're still in the building. You still

1043
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: see guys like Bobby Wagon rock around, You still see

1044
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: Frankieluvu's walking around. How do you help these guys and

1045
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: how do you help pay it forward for Washington when

1046
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: you talk to these guys interact with them.

1047
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's crazy because Bobby and I we

1048
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 5: had a relationship even before he came here. He had

1049
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 5: reached out to me when he was playing with the Seahawks,

1050
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 5: just wanted to pick out, pick out, pick my brain

1051
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 5: to kind of see, you know, what I did. How

1052
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 5: how he can you know, maybe add a few things

1053
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 5: to his game and things like that, you know, So

1054
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 5: him being a student of the game and a guy

1055
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 5: who respected you know, guys who had paved the way,

1056
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 5: pay the way before him. Seeing those guys, I'm always

1057
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 5: available if they, you know, want to have conversation.

1058
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: We want to talk ball. I've talked ball all day long.

1059
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 5: I'm conscious I'm not their coach, so you know, I'm

1060
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 5: not trying to coach these guys, but if they had

1061
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 5: some questions about it could be on the field, off

1062
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 5: the field, I'm, you know, definitely willing to give give.

1063
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 3: That type of kind of help or whatever.

1064
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 5: Bobby and I a couple of weeks ago, we were

1065
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 5: talking about just maintenance, how we were able to treat

1066
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 5: our body.

1067
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: Things I did, and he was sharing me.

1068
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 5: He was sharing to me some of the with me,

1069
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 5: some of the things that he does from a maintenance standpoint.

1070
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, dag, I wish I had.

1071
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 5: Thought added that element to my repertoire back there. So

1072
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 5: just kind of bouncing things off each other and how

1073
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 5: we do our routine routine in terms of recovery and

1074
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 5: and getting ready for games.

1075
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: That's an interesting thought because a guy like Bobby, right,

1076
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many parallels to you, guys like

1077
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: he's also coming in with a lot of former coaches

1078
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: and for former coordinators. But the game's changed a lot.

1079
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: The game has changed so much so from your vantage

1080
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: point because you're still very close, right, you're still at

1081
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: practice on the field. How have you seen the linebacker

1082
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: position change and grow? And is it like almost like

1083
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: a proud dad moment seeing guys like Bobby who basically

1084
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: are just like following your path and.

1085
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 5: When you when you look at the game the way

1086
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 5: it is now, I say this as a as a linebacker,

1087
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 5: what are you a middle linebacker?

1088
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: Outside linebacker?

1089
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 5: You have to evolve, You had to involve, you had

1090
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 5: to become more athletic. Defending the pass is at a premium.

1091
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 5: You look at the kids now they the the They're

1092
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 5: a lot smaller from the standpoint like what I've initially

1093
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 5: came into the league. You know, I was I think

1094
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 5: two hundred and forty two pounds. I was considered kind

1095
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 5: of on a smaller side from a weight standpoint. You know,

1096
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 5: you were two fifty two, fifty five even to sixty.

1097
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 5: Now you got guys even linebackers that are in the

1098
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 5: two twenties, like the two third low two thirties, because

1099
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 5: they want to be able to run a lot faster,

1100
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 5: be more fluid. There's less linebackers on the on the

1101
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 5: field a lot of times now. Now teams are deploying

1102
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 5: more more personnel groups where they are only two like

1103
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 5: linebackers on the field at the time. Sometimes some teams

1104
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 5: in certain packages may only have one one team, one

1105
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 5: linebacker on the field. And now I'm not even talking

1106
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 5: about on a third dollar situation. It's just we want

1107
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 5: to first speed as possible, we want munch guys that

1108
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 5: can cover as uh as possible, as many guys that

1109
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 5: can cover as possible, so that that that evolution of

1110
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 5: the game. You had to you had to kind of

1111
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 5: take embrace as a linebacker. So for Bobby to be

1112
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 5: able to do it, when he came into the leag

1113
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 5: I think twenty twelve was his first year, there were

1114
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 5: still a lot of two back offensive teams weren't having

1115
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 5: full backs and you know, still emphasis on running the

1116
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 5: football to where we are now and it's some teams

1117
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 5: there are three wide wide receivers the whole entire game.

1118
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 5: So just being able to evolve and embrace that change

1119
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 5: and continue to be impactful and a playmaker.

1120
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: That's that says a lot about his game and also Frankie.

1121
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 5: As well, because you know versatility and your ball and

1122
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 5: your game, it just helps you.

1123
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: It's dope to see this. You know, young up and

1124
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 1: coming linebackers come up, even Bobb, you know, an older guy,

1125
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: but still somebody that you know is playing in a

1126
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: different league than what you played in. Right, And not

1127
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: only are you giving back as as a veteran, as

1128
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: a leader, as an analyst, you're also giving back to

1129
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: the next generation because the most important things you are

1130
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: husband and a father and your boys playing. Man, you

1131
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: get to coach him. You've got to help mentor him

1132
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: and groom him. He's a wide receiver, he's not an

1133
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: He got quick feastlight spots.

1134
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 3: Right, look quickness.

1135
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: Man, How has that been? Man? How has it been

1136
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: putting on that father hat and seeing your son excel

1137
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,479
Speaker 1: in a sport that's giving you so much?

1138
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's I'm cognizant of knowing when to

1139
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 5: be dead and when to be coached because I because

1140
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 5: I coach him. Yeah, in the summertime, he plays on

1141
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 5: the seven on seven team that I coach, So I'm

1142
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 5: cognizant of just knowing, hey, when I need to be dead.

1143
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 5: I actually coached him in middle school on tackle and

1144
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 5: he was he was running back. I was coaching running back, Stuart.

1145
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 5: He was running back and wide receiver. So I coached

1146
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 5: him there, but just knowing when when it's time to

1147
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 5: be dead, when it's trying to be a coach.

1148
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 3: I I love it.

1149
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 5: Man, It's just it's it's a thrill to be able

1150
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 5: to see him kind of growing into the game. And

1151
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 5: he's loved, he loves it. He's passionate about it. Him

1152
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 5: playing wide receiver. I kind of find myself I kind

1153
00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 5: of have drifted towards the offensive side from a think

1154
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 5: it's that point. Now I'll see a passing affairs. You know,

1155
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 5: before I'd be like that was no p I. Now like, man,

1156
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 5: that's the pass that if there's a PII, Man, that's AI.

1157
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, we went to Virginia Tech's camp.

1158
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 5: My son didn't go with me, but I took some

1159
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 5: other kids there and so uh Coach Fry the coach Pride,

1160
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 5: the head coach at at Virginia Tech, he was like, uh,

1161
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 5: I said something about a p I was like, what, Look.

1162
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 3: You know, you're a difference of guy. What are you

1163
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 3: talking about?

1164
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, but man, I love it, just loving him

1165
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 5: go through his journey and I help him along the way.

1166
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 5: I'm always constantly when it's time to hey, you can

1167
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 5: do this a little bit better. I love the way

1168
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 5: you did this, just giving him, you know, nuggets here

1169
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 5: and there, especially from a defensive defensive perspective, where if

1170
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 5: you do this to a defensive guy, you stem you

1171
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 5: give him a stamp. I have no I only I

1172
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: have to kind of respond to certain movements that you give.

1173
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 5: So trying to give him that perspective to help his game.

1174
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: Is he at the age where he understands who his

1175
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: father is, like who he really knows who his dad

1176
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: is and the man he was on that field?

1177
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: My son is a hater. Man, man, he's a straight hater.

1178
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: Let's talking about dad. You suck.

1179
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 5: Please, you better look around this house. These ain't no

1180
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 5: participation trophies. You're this stuff?

1181
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 3: Is this? It's all listen? Here was ironed?

1182
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 5: Yeah that yeah, this this sofa in this bad you

1183
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 5: sleeping on that was ironed.

1184
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: Not giving car you drive? That was ironed. Boy, you

1185
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: better google me.

1186
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: It's just really don't understand like they see it, and

1187
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: they've been in it through every day like it's not

1188
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: really like special to them anymore. But I'm sure I

1189
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: gotta imagine that his age, especially playing on the level

1190
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: he's playing at kids, probably telling them all time like,

1191
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: oh man, do you know who your dad is?

1192
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 5: It's funny because there's times where were we might be

1193
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 5: out and somebody I have no idea, no maybe people

1194
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 5: I don't even know, they come up to me and

1195
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 5: be like, oh, man, like, dude, your father was a dog?

1196
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 3: Man?

1197
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 5: If you looking at them like man, whatever? Like so

1198
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 5: I like and I'll be like, yeah, you're here. You

1199
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 5: heard what he said?

1200
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 3: A dog?

1201
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: And that is so cool because you know one day

1202
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: your son could be doing that with his son. Man,

1203
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: And it's so cool to paying for it and London,

1204
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: I can send and talk to you all day. Man.

1205
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: This has been a lot of fun. But we got

1206
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: to talk about Tampa. Gotta talk about Tampa Bay. We're

1207
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: gonna be out there. You're gonna be out there doing

1208
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: radio broadcast. I'll be doing the pregame and post game show.

1209
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: What do you expect to see week one from Tampa?

1210
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 4: Right?

1211
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: We know we have to tailor expectations. We know that

1212
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: so many new things going on, But what does the

1213
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: captain expect to see week one?

1214
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you this.

1215
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 5: You know, first and foremost, Tampa's in our standing football team,

1216
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 5: kind of very under radar team. They won they won

1217
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 5: their division last year, actually three straight years in a row.

1218
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 5: They won US a playoff game last year had had

1219
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 5: Detroit on the ropes in the nd in the second

1220
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 5: round of the playoffs. So they're really good football team,

1221
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 5: well coached. It's not gonna be an easy game. We

1222
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 5: gotta come in there ready for a battle. The temperature,

1223
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 5: how what's that heat gonna be like? Playing that playing

1224
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 5: in time because there is a big difference between being

1225
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 5: up here in DC and then going down there in Florida.

1226
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 5: So that element of it, we'll have to make sure

1227
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 5: we were hydrated and ready to deal with that. But

1228
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 5: from a standpoint of you know x's and o's, we

1229
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 5: having the advantage. From the standpoint they don't know what

1230
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 5: our offense is gonna truly look like. There's a new

1231
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 5: system with new players doing on the Cliff Kingsbury he has.

1232
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they will look at Arizona stuff.

1233
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 5: But there's also the Anthleen Lynn you know element, what's

1234
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 5: his imprint gonna be as the run game coordinator, what's

1235
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 5: Brian Johnson gonna be And what's his imprint gonna be

1236
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 5: as the past game coordinator? How are they gonna match

1237
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 5: this to be the Washington Commander's offense, the personnels and

1238
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 5: the players that we have, and then how you know,

1239
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 5: Jaden what's here? How much are they gonna put on

1240
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 5: his plate? And how much of the is he gonna run?

1241
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 5: You know, r pos and things like that. The quarterback

1242
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 5: runs design runs, so that element. Defensively, they haven't seen

1243
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 5: our starting defense at all, playing.

1244
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 3: And playing in the preseason, so it's gonna be a

1245
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 3: highly competitive game. Tampa has some weapons that Mike Evans he's.

1246
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 5: A bad boy and I have to deal with him.

1247
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 5: They got two receivers that we will have to deal with.

1248
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 5: Rashad White running back is he's a He's a beast too.

1249
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 5: So we don't have our work cutout for us. But

1250
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 5: I know for a fact dan Quinn will have these

1251
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 5: guys ready to go out there and perform at a

1252
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 5: high level.

1253
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 3: And let's see where the chips fall.

1254
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,959
Speaker 1: And you talk about those starters on defense, Jonathan Allen

1255
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: Deron Payne, there's some dogs. You've been that middle linebacker

1256
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: behind some monsters up front. How important are they to

1257
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: the success of this team in this defense?

1258
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 3: Extremely important?

1259
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 5: I think just when you when you look at our

1260
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 5: true our two best players. You know, you got two

1261
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 5: defensive tackle guy, both have been to the Pro Bowl,

1262
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 5: still young, and the impact they can have on a

1263
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 5: game because of the positions they play. They're in the

1264
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 5: middle of the defense having it. Especially when you look

1265
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 5: at this game against Baker Mayfields, who's a shorter quarterback.

1266
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 3: Pressure in his face is.

1267
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 5: Gonna be key, and and getting that interior pass rush

1268
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 5: is gonna be key. Those guys, I think they're they're

1269
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 5: they're prime to have outstanding seasons, both of them. I mean,

1270
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 5: we had we had Jonathan on the Players Club last

1271
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 5: week and man he is. He looks in great shape,

1272
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 5: He's ready to go to Ron. He's still you know,

1273
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 5: always ready to roll, rock and roll. So I can't

1274
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 5: wait to see those guys get it, get it going.

1275
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 5: Those guys will set the tone for this defense. The

1276
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 5: strength of our defense, if you look at it, is

1277
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 5: the interior, starting with those two guys, then you go

1278
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 5: to Bobby and Frankie, then the safeties.

1279
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 3: That's that's that. The strength of this defense is in

1280
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: the middle.

1281
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: And London, I'm glad you used the phrase set the

1282
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: tone because the show right you are, mister set the tone.

1283
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: And you told me beforehand that if you gonna set

1284
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: the tone, I gotta pay you, and I don't got

1285
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: no money. So what I'm gonna do is because we

1286
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: got a home game, and that home game's against a

1287
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: division rival in the New York Giants that's coming up.

1288
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: Need you look at that ICEO camera right there and

1289
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: talk to the fans and how they can set the

1290
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: tone for a Washington Commanders for a Force home game

1291
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: against the New York Giants.

1292
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: Burgady in Gold, faithful, you know it. We need it.

1293
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: We need that energy from you.

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Speaker 5: We're going against the hated division rival, the New York Giants,

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Speaker 5: the g Men as they like to call themselves. This

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Speaker 5: is command this country. Let's let them know. Bring it

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Speaker 5: burging in Gold. Let's rock and roll.

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Speaker 1: Man, listen, there's nothing else I need to say. I

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Speaker 1: got goosebubs all ready to go run a forty in

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Speaker 1: places on football, mister London Fletcher, Man, I appreciate you, brother,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being so candy with us

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Speaker 1: and open with us. Man, it's been a joy to

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Speaker 1: work with you, man, and watch you grow as a

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Speaker 1: broadcasting the analyst.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: I see the world you put in man, It's very

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Speaker 1: impressive to see you and get to work with you

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Speaker 1: every day.

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Speaker 5: Brother, I appreciate it, but you're gonna get that invoice.

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Speaker 1: Man, this family, well, I try to work more to

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Speaker 1: make money to be able to afford to pay London

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Speaker 1: Fletcher his invoice. This is Next Man Up. I am

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Speaker 1: your host, Brian cob Junior here with the legend, one

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Speaker 1: of the best to ever do it in future Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer. That's right, Big fletch London Fletcher appreciate you, Bro,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. See y'all next Friday. Command is family, a

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Speaker 1: man is family. We hope you have been enjoying the

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Speaker 1: Next Man Up Podcast, hearing from your favorite Washington commanders

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Speaker 1: and some of your favorite Washington legends. If you want

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Speaker 1: to hear more of the Next Man Up podcast, you

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