WEBVTT - #467 Packers Unscripted: Recap, regroup, rebound 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:21.160 M Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.480 I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my trusted colleague 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.920 West hod Kowitz. Were coming to you here from our 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:29.159 studios at lambeau Field and West. First, I have to 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.599 start by apologizing to our viewers and listeners out there 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.559 because I did not give anyone a heads up that 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.040 we were not going to have a Monday show after 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.280 coming back from Los Angeles because our producer Marvin was 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.320 traveling and not available to produce a show. So I 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:49.720 apologize for not letting everyone know that in advance. But 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.479 it is Tuesday. Here we are. We are back from 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.360 l A to review the Packers loss to the l 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.880 A Chargers to eleven. It was flat out, West aid dud. 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.560 It was the worst performance by the Green Bay Packers 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.840 in nineteen by quite a considerable margin, and this is 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.600 one that the Packers clearly need to learn from, but 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.280 also just flush it and move on exactly. I think 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:16.240 that's the mentality you have to have. You have to 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.920 focus on the Carolina Panthers. Panthers this Sunday, excuse me, 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:22.800 with this game at Lambolefield and getting into the week 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.680 eleven by as healthy as you can be. To rest 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:30.040 up that being said originally from the beginning, I said, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.240 if if the Packers were to split, This is even 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.480 when we weren't sure if Mahomes was gonna play, the 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.280 Packers split Kansas City and they split at the l 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.200 A Chargers. I think everyone would have been happy if 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.600 this would have been a relatively you know, competitive game, 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.520 you know, maybe a high scoring affair, which I originally 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.040 predicted it to be. You know, maybe even then people 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.480 be happy. But let's be honest, Mike, when when you 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.120 go into that type of environment, you have that sort 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.120 of you know, fan interest behind you on in a 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.760 road setting, you know, everything seemed to be set for 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.240 the Packers to have a solid performance, and it just 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.080 didn't come together. The fast starts we've talked about, it 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:08.680 wasn't there. The strong finishes we talked about, it wasn't there. 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:10.840 They got back into an issue with third and longs. 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.400 Matt Lafleur talked about it. You know, they basically weren't 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.120 able to run their game plan. They were stuck in 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.080 a two minute offense for most of this one and 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.639 a week after getting the ball into Aaron Jones and 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.160 Jamal Williams hands as much as they did against Kansas City, 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.919 they just were unable to do that against the Chargers. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.440 And while the defense did keep the minute by keeping 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.079 l A out of the end zone, it still was 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.239 too many yards, too much production, not enough takeaways. And 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.200 Philip Rivers finally got that elusive victory over the Green 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.760 Bay Packers. Yeah, and and the Chargers as a franchise 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:46.440 their first victory over the Packers and only their second victory. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.040 And I believe it's twelve games that the Packers and 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.800 Chargers as franchises have met up. So, as you said, 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.280 the defense kept the Packers in it. Initially they were 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.959 giving up too many yards and still the big plays 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.880 a problem. The Packers have got to figure out a 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.720 way to fix this. They were just allowing field goals 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.320 early on, and for everything that had gone wrong in 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.160 the first half, it was only nine to nothing, Packers 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.080 were getting the ball coming out a halftime. He just 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.720 felt one spark was maybe all that was needed to 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.920 get things going. One scoring drive would have changed at 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.320 nine to nothing, would have changed the look of the 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.800 game completely, and it just never happened for the Packers. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.280 And then as the second half war On, the special 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.560 team started to make some mistakes with the block pon 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:30.840 and the off sides on the field goal, and the 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.320 defense was clearly wearing down because the offense was not 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.320 able to sustain anything and give them any breaks and 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.320 give them any opportunity to to get back in the game. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.680 Nobody was able to make that momentum turning that potential 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.880 game changing play and UH as a result, the Packers 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.960 really took one on the chin. We like to say 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.560 in this game West that sometimes it's not who you play, 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.840 it's when you play him. And I think we talked 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.800 last week about how that missed field goal in Chicago 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.440 that might have been the worst thing to happen to 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.720 the Green Bay Packers heading into this game, because it 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.240 gave the Chargers life. If the Chargers are two and 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:13.240 six with them with Eddie Pinneo making that kick in Chicago, 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.960 you just wonder if they come out with the life 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.280 and the enthusiasm and everything that they had. I don't know. 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.360 I mean, it's a week to week league, we know that, 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.160 but but I talked all week about how the Chargers 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.440 got a reprieve when Pinero missed that kick, and this 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.960 to me, looked like a team that is ready to 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.479 seize on that opportunity to get back to being the 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.520 team they were last year, and the Packers simply weren't 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:41.600 able to match whatever intensity and drive and dedication and 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.640 everything that the Chargers had to make the most of 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.400 their opportunity. Yeah, you said it perfectly, and and the 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.240 fact of the matter is right now there, you know, 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.520 two games out from their division lade there, they're still 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.360 on Kansas City's coattails and they're trying to make a run. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.760 Here the two things that I look at this matchup. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.080 I said it on frid Day when you and I 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.000 did our Keys to victory in not only the show, 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.720 but in final thoughts, and I even said, I'm gonna 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.800 keep it even simpler than you kept it. I said, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.240 you need to pressure Philip Rivers and you need to 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.479 turn the ball over. Packers didn't pressure Philip Rivers enough 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.320 and they didn't turn over the football. And there was 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.599 someone who mentioned, well, why didn't they blitz more? And 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.120 I pointed, and I had a feeling about this, But 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.640 then I also pointed to UH pro Football Focus and 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.600 one of the stats that they had going into this 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.560 one are coming out of it was this season, Philip 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.880 Rivers is a hundred and twenty passer rating against the 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.359 Blitz's five passer rating against everything else, He's a hundred 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.440 twenty pass rating against the Blitz. I don't want to 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.400 draw any more parallels between him and Drew Brees, but 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.760 in many ways they are very similar players. Breeze probably 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.880 makes fewer mistakes, but they get the ball out quickly, 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.840 they're decisive with it, and you know they hit their 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.160 hot route. If you do send somebody, they get their 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.000 hot read going. So I don't think that would have 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.599 done anything. But the problem was is that with even strength, 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.320 they didn't get on Philip Rivers enough, and there were 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.480 just too many breakdowns and lapses in the secondary in 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.880 terms of coverage and not being able to to wrap 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.839 guys up when and have those explosive plays that the 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.880 Packers were trying to avoid. And then, ultimately, the biggest 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.040 shift I thought you saw with this particular Chargers team 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.760 without Ken wizzen Hunt is they did there was more 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.760 dedication towards running the ball. And we'll see if that 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.760 continues on or if that was just a reaction to 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.120 the Packers. But I was gonna say it is. It 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.160 is easy to be stay dedicated to the running game 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.320 when you're up nine to nothing, you're up twelve to enough, 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.160 and you're up nineteen to nothing. I mean, so, yes, 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.320 there there was dedication to that running game early on. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.800 But also the bottom line is early in the game, 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.359 the Chargers were sustaining drives. They kept moving the chains, 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.440 and the best way to allow yourself to be dedicated 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.200 to a running game is to continue to be in 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.159 first and ten and and when the Charges continued to 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.680 move the chains and get into first down, they were 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.400 doing exactly what they wanted to. And other than some 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.720 of those stops in the red zone to four field goals, 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.880 the Packers just couldn't get off the field. And then 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.839 on the flip side, you know the offense wasn't able 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.400 to get anything going to give that defensive break, and 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.200 you know that this this game just started going downhill 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.440 from the beginning, and and nobody was able to stop 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.040 that snowball. No. And that was the frustrating part about 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.920 it is because it's it's almost like it was sort 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.880 of a mirage a little bit, like you thought you 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.480 were right there and you just need to get that score. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.520 You need to get that long drive and you'd be 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.000 right back in this ballgame, and it never appeared for 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.000 the Packers. And then certainly the backbreaker was the block J. K. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.880 Scott field punt in the third quarter. That's where the 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.680 Chargers finally end up scoring their first touchdown or that, 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.560 and then the Packers get a stand late and the 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.120 Charges end up scoring a touchdown after that in an 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.680 offsides penalty. They just did enough good things and I 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.600 gotta give Anthony Lynn a lot of credit. I mean, 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.160 that team was there to play. They made a changed 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.600 offensive play caller. It seemed like the guys responded to 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.880 that well. But you know, the Packers were seven and 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.400 one for a reason. I know they talked about being sluggish, 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.360 they talked about tired. I think if the Packers are 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.840 are playing to their capabilities, that's a team they beat. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.080 But as we've seen with the sixteen game regular season schedule, Mike, 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.720 there's gonna be these episodes every once in a while 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.840 where there's a letdown. The key for Green Bay here 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.400 now facing the Panthers, and we'll preview them later this week, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:20.160 but they were on the road against an uncommon opponent. 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.800 You lost by fifteen as much as that hurts, and 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.000 then as many different areas that they need to shore 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.280 up here to beat a very good and surging Carolina 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.720 Panthers team, you do have to getting back to your 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.840 original point, sort of flush what happened, because you can't 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.520 let it domino in pool going into that bye week. 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.120 You need to come and get that victory against the 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.080 Panthers and be eight and two going into the by Yeah, 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.080 it's that old adage that you can't let one game 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.360 beat you twice, right, And that's kind of where the 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.360 Packers are right now. I've been feeling for the last 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.520 few weeks that the Packers on the defensive side of 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.400 the ball, they need to get to the bye week. 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.640 They need to they need to have the week off, 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.719 just be able to take a breather, get off their 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.679 feet eat. Now it feels like with what we saw 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.600 on Sunday in Los Angeles, the whole team is kind 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.000 of at that point. But you've got one more game. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.600 You've got to give everything you've got into this last 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.040 game before the bye week, and and you know, if 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.280 there's one thing maybe that comes out of not just 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.360 getting beat and getting beat in the fashion that the 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:24.200 Packers did is that nobody's going to be too focused 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:25.920 on the bye week. The focus is going to be 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.360 on the Carolina Panthers because they know they can. They 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.400 can put everything they have into that game and then 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.880 they get the long awaited rest. So it's something the 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.880 Packers need to take advantage of. But you said it, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.960 the Panthers. The Panthers are in They were in a 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.680 very similar situation a week ago. They went to San Francisco. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.240 Everybody was wearying. Okay, let's see how good the Panthers 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.320 are and they got it handed to him by the 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:53.199 forty niners. What what do they do? They regroup, They 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:58.360 bounce back. Playing a pretty formidable Tennessee team at home 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.400 this past weekend. They took care of in this. They 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.560 got to win. They got themselves back on track. They're 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.680 back in the conversation um for the NFC playoff picture. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.520 And that's the team that the Panthers are bringing to 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.560 lambeau Field. Here. So a lot of a lot of 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.840 interesting circumstances to look at, but the bottom line is, yes, 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.920 this Packers, Packers team needs the bye week, but they've 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.000 got a huge challenge in front of him. I I 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:25.240 call this this week against the Carolina Panthers so far 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.600 in twenty nineteen is the biggest challenge the Packers are 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.320 going to face. Yea, and there are because of all 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.200 the circumstances that are surrounding it right now. Absolutely. I 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.000 mean the fact that you only have three more home 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.400 games in your regular season schedule and you have the 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:40.280 San Francisco forty Niners staring at you after that bye week. Uh. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.480 The one thing that was interesting about the Panthers I 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.800 thought really speaks well to them is the fact that, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.400 you know, Kyle Allen has the worst game of his career, 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:50.920 you know, after getting off to that fast start, being 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.679 a good game manager, protecting the football. San Francisco obliterates that. 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.120 But then he came back. I mean, let's be honest, 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.240 I mean Christian McCaffrey, and again, well we'll preview this 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.320 later in the week. He's the biggest playmaker. He's arguably 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.560 the biggest playmak in the NFL right now. You have 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.840 to get the ball in his hands. Alan succeeded at that, 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.439 and they got the response that they wanted. The thing 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.760 that actually strikes me I was, I was driving home 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.680 after the game we we landed, I'm on Highway forty 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.200 one going northbound, and I'm trying to kind of process 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.200 everything that had happened, because I think there's been some 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.480 guys that mentioned I mean, there's feeling that the Packers 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.920 never even like not necessarily got off the bus. But 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.040 you just had this like there's an indecisiveness or just 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.760 there was felt like there was no resolution at all. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.960 I felt like they went out there and you know, 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.440 they did the walk through and we never really played 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.040 the game. And I'm processing this in my mind and 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.560 I started kind of snicker to myself, like we made 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.679 such a big deal out of you know, you have 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.400 the Detroit coming off the by and Oakland coming off 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.880 there by and in Kansas City off a mini buy, 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:49.840 and then what's the team that ends up kind of 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.280 knocking the Packers off the pedestal The Chargers, who I 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.720 think have the last buy. I mean like they they're 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.240 they're playing every game here too. Uh. And that's it 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.040 shows you how this league works and the things that 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.960 you think might make sense, they really don't. And I 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.280 look at this matchup now with where the Packers are 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.400 at the one positive, you know, and we're gonna have 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.360 to see what Wednesday's practice looks like but that was 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.120 one of the first games that I can remember, Mike 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.720 that there wasn't even an injury designation. There wasn't anyone 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.120 that was questionable or out or anything during the game. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.240 Nobody left with anything. Now that still can mean there 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.600 can be some guys here, but there was nothing devastating. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.480 The Packers suffered. So while I believe a lot of it, 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.679 especially on the defensive side, they're they're worn down a 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.079 little bit. It looks like they're gonna have most, if 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.080 not everyone available for this game against the Panthers. I 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.440 wrote about an insider inbox today. You have to dig deep. Now, 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.400 you have to put everything into this game and then 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.280 after that have that one week sort of sabbatical, because 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.640 as difficult as that was, and as tired as I 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.720 know these guys are, you would be even more tired 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.280 if you had a week four or five by and 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:58.040 then you got to play eleven twelve opponents consecutively to 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.200 finish the season. The Packers still are sitting in a 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.679 good spot, but you've got to keep that lead in 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.320 the division, especially after all three NFC North team's loss 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.559 last weekend. 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Okay, So 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.720 first I want to say Matt Lafleur did say on 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.600 Monday that the Packers are going to examine everything that 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.520 went into this West Coast road trip, because as we've mentioned, 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.720 there's one coming up out to San Francisco after the 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.760 bye week, so everything from the travel schedule to the 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:44.600 walk through the day before the game too, the game plan, 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.280 the play calling on both sides of all everything, they're 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.440 gonna examine everything that went wrong with us. I think 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.079 that's that if there's going to be a priority number 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.960 one bye week project for the coaching staff and football administration, 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.640 that might be it. But that being said, the focus 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:04.679 now is on where the Packers stand and the Carolina 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.720 Panthers coming in. And you can look at this. You 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.600 can look at the loss to the Chargers one of 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.400 two ways. Either it was the best week to lose 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.120 a game because everybody else in the NFC North lost, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.840 or it was a huge missed opportunity because by the 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.000 time the Packers game kicked off in l A, the 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.160 Vikings had lost on a walk off field goal in 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:29.480 Kansas City, the Bears had lost after another dismal offensive 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:34.960 performance and hum and their fourth straight loss, I believe 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.840 for Chicago and then Um. While the Packers were playing, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.840 the Lions also lost out on the West Coast in Oakland. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.280 So I missed opportunity for sure. The Packers could have 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.160 given themselves a two game lead over Minnesota with seven 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.400 games to play. That didn't happen. You're seven and two, 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.120 the Vikings are six and three. The Bears and Lions 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.240 now are both sub five hundreds. So as you said, 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.080 the Packers are in a good spot. So now you 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.280 just you go from here. I'm a bird in the 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.440 hand kind of guy. You know that, probably better than anybody. 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.480 I still always will look at it as nothing was gained, 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.280 nothing was lost. I don't look at it as a 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.200 missed opportunity because again, it's not like they were taking 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.760 on San Francisco. It's not like they had all these 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.640 implications to this game. You lost. You lost to a 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.640 what team that you and I all week long last 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.920 week we're saying was a good a f A team, 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.360 even if their record didn't say it. And the rest 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.680 of the division lost. Kansas City did what I think 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.480 everyone thought Kansas City should do, especially if Patrick Mahomes 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.880 would have played. And you know, Chicago is in a 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.960 tail spin right now. And this schedule, I mean, it 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.520 was funny. You're right, it was four consecutive losses. Look 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:44.400 at the schedule coming up for Chicago to Lions, Rams, Giants, 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.600 Lions again, Dallas, Green Bay, Kansas City in Minnesota to 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.200 finish out the season. That is gonna be a tough 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.720 stretch for Mattnegie's crew, um to me, and I'm not 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.400 looking past anybody, because I think Detroit has showed you 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.880 they can play with anybody. But this is about min 0:15:59.920 --> 0:16:02.320 of soda now. And you were watching the end of 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.800 that game against Kansas City and how that all unfolded, 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.280 considering how tight that was late, I think, because you 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.360 can only live in one world, right, there's no butterfly 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.080 effects here. The Packers loss in Minnesota, lost to a 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.280 good Kansas City team that we saw a week ago. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.960 I just my vision, my vantage point of this is 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.080 that you survived, you advanced, and now you gotta try 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.560 to get another win here against Carolina. Yeah. Absolutely, I 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.920 mean the picture, the picture in the NFC um continues 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.240 to be very top heavy. The forty Niners are undefeated, 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.200 the only remaining undefeated team in the NFL after the 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.640 New England Patriots lost on Sunday Night football in Baltimore. 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.440 The Saints, who were on the by this past week, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.200 they have one loss. The Seattle Seahawks. They were at 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.920 home against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a team a lot 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.120 of people thought, Okay, Russell Wilson will just, you know, 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.320 tear these guys apart. And Russell Wilson did. He threw 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:58.080 five touchdown passes, but it took overtime for the Seattle 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.240 Seahawks to pull out that game. So the Seahawk still 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.840 have two losses. The Packers have two losses, the Vikings 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.639 have three, the Panthers have three. They're coming in to 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:11.560 lambeau Field. This is uh um, It just it feels 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.040 like this whole NFC race is just getting started. And 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:19.600 this Packers Panthers game here is one that uh could 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:24.000 definitely have some significant implications down the road in December 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.440 when we start looking at the bigger picture as things 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.400 get closer to UH to D Day. So you want 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.800 to talk about a take care of business week, and 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.080 and again we'll preview all these games on Friday, but 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.040 this is the week where the Packers can gain ground. 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:41.280 You have San Francisco that has to host Seattle in 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.680 Sunday night foot or Monday night football. Excuse me, it 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.320 might be the best Monday night football game in the 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.320 last ten years, to be quite honest with you. UH 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:51.360 Minnesota has to go to Dallas. So either way that's 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.560 a division opponent or that's a team that could potentially 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.040 be in the run for a wild card spot. Detroit 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:57.760 and the Bears get to beat up on each other. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.159 This is I think that's one of the reason is 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.400 why I see this as a game where the Packers 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.480 really needed to do something because if you do get 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.840 a win this week, there's gonna be teams that lost 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.840 or potentially would have a tie that are just gonna 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.240 mount just based on the attrition of these matchups. So 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.280 it's going to be some shifting going on regardless. So 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.320 not only would it be a win that could get 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.280 you to eight and two. It's a win that pushes 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.560 back a potential wild card threat in the Carolina Panthers, 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:27.240 a potential seating threat in the Panthers. So that that's 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:28.840 one of the things that jumps off the page to me. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.040 I'm very curious though, you know, when you look at 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.320 Minnesota in that game that they had against Kansas City, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.080 I don't want to say they threw their best shot 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.399 at them, because, you know, Matt Moore, you're dealing with 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.600 the backup quarterback. There are certain adverse situations they were 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.360 dealing with there. But Kansas City did what Kansas City does. 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:49.520 They use their speed and they used opportune you know, 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.280 plays like the Damian Williams run to make things happen 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:54.760 for themselves. And that's why they're going to be in 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.040 the thick of this thing. There's no unblemished team for 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.439 the most part. San Francisco is gonna get tested on 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.240 Monday night, New England. As we said all last week, 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.920 that was going to be a matchup where okay, where 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.960 are the Patriots right now? Lamar Jackson showed they're not infallible. 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:15.920 So I just fans, and I saw my Twitter timeline, 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.360 I saw my mentions anytime I tweeted something out during 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.280 that game on Sunday, they're they're so like, it's funny, 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.600 you can you can play this game for a hundred seasons, right, 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.159 And everyone always believes that if you lose and you 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.719 lose ugly, you're the worst team on Earth, and if 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.800 you win and you win big, you're the best, greatest team. 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.080 And it's mind boggling to me, right And I And 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.840 I said, you know, I said in in the live 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.400 blog during the game. I believe I did. And I 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.399