1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: I am John Schmunk. We only have one practice left 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama, and the join 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: us to talk about everything that's gone on is front 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: of the program. Trevor Sikhim up from Pro Football Focus. Trevor, 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: what's going on? 8 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: Brother John's always gonna be with you, man. I always 9 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: love this time of year, not only because of events 10 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: like this, but it means that we get to call 11 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: out a little bit and get to go onto the 12 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: podcast on your shows and everything. So it's great to 13 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 2: catch up. 14 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: And of course we'll have you again at the combine 15 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: and again before we go, you can check out him 16 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: and Connor Rodgers doing their Stock Exchange podcast talking everything draft. 17 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: It is fantastic. Anything else I should plug for you. 18 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: I mean the PFF stuff, the NFL Stock Exchange stuff. 19 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: Basically if you turn on YouTube at this point, I'm 20 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: convinced that you will somehow see me in one way. 21 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Not always wearing a bucket hat though. 22 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: No, we had to break out. We had to break 23 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: out the training camp bucket hat because it's not always 24 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: sonny like it is today here in Mobile, which I'm 25 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: very thankful for. But I had to make sure when 26 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: I was looking at the I was looking at the weather, 27 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: I had to pack something appropriate. So normally the bucket 28 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: hat is just a training camp thing. You know, a 29 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: lot of people go to training camps are very used 30 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: to making sure they got some v protection there, and 31 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: we had to do so today. So getting out on 32 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: the field training, can't feel how to break out the 33 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: book fair skin. 34 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: Folks like ourselves have to be careful. 35 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: That's very true. 36 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: That's very true and true. The funny thing is that 37 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: about two hours and the second practice is over, it's 38 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: gonna drop about twenty degrees and you're gonna want to 39 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: put a winter hat on because it's gonna be so cold. 40 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: Don't remind me of that, because we got to shoot 41 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: a show after this. 42 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're shooting this now, So all right, trev, 43 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: let's start the quarterbacks. Luckily, the Giants aren't really in 44 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: the business for a quarterback, and I think it's a 45 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: good year not to be in the business for a 46 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: quarterback to me. You know, nuss Meyer probably looked like 47 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: the best quarterback here. Yeah, but look, I think Taylor 48 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: Green is just fascinating. 49 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: You know. 50 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if he's gonna go to the Tyree Jackson around 51 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: and eventually play tight end, right, but man, size the 52 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: ball comes out of his hand. You saw him on 53 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: a couple of scrambles. He's gonna run in the four fives. Yeah, 54 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: if you get If he could figure things out, man, 55 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: he is very talented. 56 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And Felipe Franks kind of did the same thing, right, 57 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: he started a quarterback, moves over to tight end, and 58 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: I kind of think that that's the long term for 59 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: Chare for him because I mean, he's got he's got 60 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: a big arm to him. He's just he's a very 61 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: physically and athletically gifted kid. But he just wasn't super 62 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: consistent as a quarterback the way that you want to 63 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: and especially going to the NFL level, the demand for 64 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: ball placement goes up so much, and so I think 65 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: that he will play in the NFL. I just wonder 66 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: if it's gonna be a little bit more of like 67 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: a wide receiver tight end offensive weapon type of his spot. 68 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: But the other quarterback outside of nus Meyer that you mentioned, 69 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: Sawyer Robertson at least today, Uh, actually looked pretty good. 70 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: He's got a baseball background to him. I'm not really 71 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: worried about does he have the arm strength at the 72 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: NFL level. 73 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: Had a couple of runs in this practice. 74 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: And I mean he's he's got some he's got some 75 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: scoot to him, and so uh, he is one of 76 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: the guys that at least I'm coming away from this 77 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: week saying like, Okay, still intrigued a little bit about 78 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: him and maybe what his NFL potential. 79 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: Do you think nuss can get himself into Day two 80 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: by the time this draft process is over, he gets 81 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: in meetings with NFL coaches and the and the brain 82 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: starts showing off and everything. 83 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: Especially because you know, dad's a long time football coach, 84 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: whether it's college or the NFL. I think when it's 85 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: all said and done, nus Meyer's gun to be a 86 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: top one hundred pick. I just do think that it's 87 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: gonna be closer towards like that third round range. 88 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: Now, I'm with you, else I agree running backs, no 89 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: one has really jumped out to me. That's here trip 90 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. And then then again, I 91 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: always say running back to me is one of the 92 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: toughest no quisitions to watch in practice because their job 93 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: is to break tackles, and nobody's tackling correct. So I'll 94 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: see how good these running backs are. Yeah, the one 95 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: guy that jumped out to me and then you can 96 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: take yours. I think Mike Washington from Arkansas has been really, 97 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: really impressive. He's two hundred and twenty eight pounds. He 98 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: was first on the leaderboard in terms of speed a 99 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: running back, second on the whole roster. So size, speed, physicality, 100 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: he checks those boxes for me. 101 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: No, and I agree with you completely basically, until you 102 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: get to the game, it's hard to stand out as 103 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: a running back. But I would also point out Mike 104 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: Washington is like, if there's a quote unquote riser from 105 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: this group, I feel like he's won because he checks 106 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: so much of the physical boxes, like you mentioned, when 107 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: you get him in between the tackles. Watching his tape 108 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: from Arkansas, he's got a little bit better of footwork 109 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: than you'd probably expect for a guy who's carrying as 110 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: much weight in the size that he has, And so 111 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: that's big time plus is for him. You know, the 112 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: NFL is gonna love it. Like Seth McGowan as well 113 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: from Kentucky. I think obviously he wasn't he's not able 114 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: to showcase a ton this week, but you know, he 115 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: is somebody who, my goodness, he was a four star 116 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: when he was in Oklahoma, actually got on the field 117 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 2: very early on, ended up getting charged of a felony 118 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: and ended up spending a little bit of time in 119 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: jail after that, gets kicked off of the Oklahoma team, 120 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: and then just for the last four years, it's been 121 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: a journey for him as a player and a person 122 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: because you know, I've listened to him talking kind of 123 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: paraphrasing it here. He's like I was. He was obviously 124 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: like doing the wrong stuff, in with the wrong people, 125 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: and he was like I thought football was taken away 126 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: from me forever. And you see just this renewed passion 127 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: and willingness to be the absolute best. And the people 128 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: that I talked to at Kentucky they rave about him 129 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: as well. And so I love the fact that he's here. 130 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: He can't show a ton of the practice, but to 131 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: at least get to talk to these teams, because the 132 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: more that I've heard about him, the more that I love, 133 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: you know, just his character and where he is in 134 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: life and It's just it's really cool that that's sort 135 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: of an underrated part of this event too, is really 136 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: getting in front of NFL teams in person for the 137 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: first time. And so he's somebody that I like this 138 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: tape it Kentucky as well, and so he's somebody that 139 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: I shout out to. 140 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: We lost some wide receivers from this game. Uh was 141 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: going to be here again. Indiana goes long. He doesn't 142 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: come lost case he concepts you owned from this game. 143 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: Someone else supposed to be here. But still some guys 144 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: that are intriguing, and it's a good mixed trev of 145 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: some big boky skyscrapers. Malachi Fields had that great catch 146 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: on day two. Yep, ted Hurst, I think is really 147 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: has bounced. And then you have some of these young guys, right, 148 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: rather smaller guys that I think have also done pretty well. 149 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: Corey Coleman, I'm not Corey Coleman. Sorry, Josh Cameron, is 150 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: that you're talking about? No, I'm talking about Missouri. Where 151 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: is he there? Yes, thank you? I know it's a 152 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: Coleman that was one of the Colemans. He's I think 153 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: he's been pretty good. He's gotten open lot today and 154 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: then the John Carroll kid, Tyron Montgomery. Man, he's he 155 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: had a couple of drops today and practice, but he 156 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: gets open and he goes up and gets the ball. 157 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: I've loved watch he's been great over the last couple 158 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: of days. He has been so great to watch. And 159 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: then you know he stands out in date. Look he's 160 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: coming from John Carroll. It's a D three university. So 161 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying to myself like, okay, like what's this kid 162 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: going to be? Like? Are they just kind of giving 163 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: this guy a flyer? You know, they're getting him an 164 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: opportunity the NFL team to play in front of NFL teams. 165 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: He's not really going to do anything. After that first practice, 166 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, time to do some extra research 167 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: on this guy because athletically he looks like he belongs. 168 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 2: And it is a it's crazy story where you know, 169 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: he was a standout basketball player walk On walked On 170 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: at LSU, had some family problems so he had to 171 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: you know, leave LSU and go back home. And then 172 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: his brother, who played collegiate football as well as like, dude, 173 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: you should really try this football thing. Never played a 174 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: snap high school fotball, never play a snaps football. He 175 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: had to go play flag football just to get tape 176 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: to send it to coaches. Somehow ends up at Nickel State, 177 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 2: plays a year there, and then he's a John Carroll. 178 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: Now he's here at the Senior Bowl. I can't wait 179 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: to go actually find some John Carroll tape and really 180 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: get to watch him. And then also I can't wait 181 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: to see him Indianapolis as well, because I guarantee after 182 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: he played. 183 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't have the invite yet. 184 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 2: I ask him this morning, okay, well after he played 185 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: this week, they better remedied at They better get on that, 186 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: because you got it. You look at how much this 187 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: guy wins with juice and short airy explosiveness and going 188 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: up and get it above the rim like he was. 189 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 2: I've been so impressed with him, and he better get that. 190 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Combine the question I've been asking everybody, who will be 191 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: the first wide receiver taken that's at this game and 192 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: what round will he be taken? I wonder if it's 193 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: fields at this point, that's been the consensus answer that 194 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: I got. I think it is going to be fields 195 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: and going into the fields. Notre Dame, by the way, 196 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: big six wide receiver. 197 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: Yes, and he's a contested catch guy most of the time, 198 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: but then he'll give you some extra juice as a 199 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: vertical route runner, and you feel pretty good about just 200 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: the overall ceiling. 201 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: That he has. 202 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: At this point, I think third round, Yeah, I think 203 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: that there's even maybe even a chance like back end 204 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: of the City, Okay, I think that'd be You know, 205 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: it just depends on this class. 206 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: Because there'sn't a lot of production there. 207 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: You look at his numbers, there's not a lot of 208 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: production and there's not But like I know, you study 209 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: that so many of these prospects in the class, Like 210 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: this class is going to be a mixed bag. The 211 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: big boards for teams are going to be so different 212 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: teamed team. There's so much less consensus about the talent 213 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: in this class that I wonder if a team could 214 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: really talk themselves into him at the back of the 215 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: second round. But to play it safe, I would say 216 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: third round. 217 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: For you get in here. If you're lined up here, 218 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: you gotta go over the middle with at the score great. 219 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: How do we make that happen? 220 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, but Citizens does? 221 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: It makes sense of your money with citizens Official Bank 222 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: of ELI manning. 223 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: Teams might get driven by need in this draft, which 224 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: you could get dangerous depending on what you end up. 225 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: There always is if you get pigeonholed. 226 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: For Yeah, absolutely does. All right, let's go to tight 227 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: end and again a good mix, right, you got a 228 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: bunch of combo y tight ends here that can play online. 229 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: You got some more f spread tight ends like the 230 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: Josh Josh Quavass of the world, cozy old guys like that, 231 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: but they know these inline guys that have also caught 232 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: the ball pretty well this week. 233 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the the Texas A and M kid whose last 234 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: name is like it is the greatest tight end name 235 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: I've ever seen, Nate bork Cuture. 236 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it's fantastic. 237 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: He has been awesome this we really strong hands, more 238 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: of a contested catch guy. But again, like they just 239 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: never really threw whom the football. He never got involved 240 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: in the offense. He was in Nebraska Blockers TCU. He 241 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: brings the power that you want, he brings the blocking 242 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: that you want, and then he's got the strong hands 243 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: as well. So he's been very impressive. Cozeal, like you mentioned, 244 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: his name's Tanner Coziel, the tight end from Houston. He 245 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 2: had a rep where he was in the corner of 246 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: the end zone and he climbed. He climbed the ladder 247 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: exactly the way that you would want a six six 248 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: foot seven type of a tight end to do, and 249 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: so he has been fun to watch as well. I 250 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: think that Josh Justin Jolie, the tight end from Enci State, 251 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: has been getting opened a little bit over the middle. 252 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: I would have liked to see more big plays from 253 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: him this week. I thought we'd see a little bit 254 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: more big plays, but he's at least been consistent as 255 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: a wide receiver when they've looked his way. But yeah, 256 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: those are a handful the Texas A and M kid 257 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: I've been very impressed with this week. 258 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: I hear that great catching that competition portion of practice. 259 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: After the second day, he reached over the defender on 260 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: that seamrit with his hands and snatched that Ball's a 261 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: great play. All right, Let's go to the offensive line. 262 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: To me, the guy that's stunned out the most to 263 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: me is Max Ayana Shore. Yes, I'm out of Arizona State. Yeah, 264 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: because that defensive front, they have Derek Moore who's been great, 265 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: Zion Young who's been great, Gaby Yakis who's been great, 266 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: and they've killed everyone. There's only one guy that's been 267 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: able to block those guys. Yeah, and it's Iona Shore. 268 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. He is a really good athlete. I remember watching 269 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: him at the beginning before the season began in summer scouting, 270 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, not a finished product. 271 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: Yep. 272 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: I could see it though, And a lot of people 273 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: have kind of been getting on the train of him 274 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: and saying like, Okay, this guy could be a top 275 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: one hundred pick. Now I'm here, people tay top seventy five. 276 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: Maybe you take an athletic offensive tackle like this in 277 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: the top fifty. So his stock is absolutely rising, and 278 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: I think overall I agree with you. He has been 279 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: the best tackle here when it comes to just overall 280 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: offensive lineman. Though I can't tell you how impressed I 281 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: have been with Sam Hecht, the center from Kansas State. 282 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: This is a center class that is completely up in 283 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 2: the air. 284 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: Right. 285 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: Connor Loom from Auburn was getting a lot of, you know, 286 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: top fifty hype going into the season, and the he 287 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: tears his acl Jake Slaughter from Florida's at this event 288 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: as well, Like, you know, do you think of him 289 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: as maybe the first tight end off the board somewhere on. 290 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Dam if you was playing center for the first time here, 291 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: Willis is gonna play center for the first time here, dude, 292 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: it's all for the air. 293 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: But hecked this year or sorry that this week. The grip, strength, 294 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: the feet, the core strength, his anchorability. No matter who 295 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: he went up against all week long, power finesse, quick hands, moves, 296 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: bull rush moves, whatever it was, he was ready for it. 297 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: He started the last twenty five games of his collegiate 298 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: career for Kansas State, so he's got the experience to him. 299 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: I went back and I looked up his PFF grades, 300 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: really solid overall PFF grades as well, and I just 301 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: I could not have been more impressed with him here 302 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: this week. So I wonder if we get to a 303 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: point where we might be talking about him as the 304 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: best center in this class. Okay, nobody would have said 305 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: that going into this event like it. I wonder because 306 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: I just he was so damn consistent this week. I 307 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: wonder if we get to that point we're talking about him. 308 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Like that, I'll throw some love to Dimitria's crown over. 309 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: He's done a nice shot out of Texan and a tackle, 310 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: and then I think just the two io offensive lineman 311 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: Jennings Dunker and and then Bo Stevens. Yep, just so 312 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: powerful in the run game, and you know, IOWA lineman 313 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: gonna know what they're doing. I don't think Dunker is 314 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: going to be able to stay out of tackle on after 315 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: he is the movements go forward. But he's definitely powerful 316 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: enough to play guard, So I don't think that's gonna 317 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: be an issue for always thought he was a guard. 318 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: I think we gotta too. I think we got to 319 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: fix his footwork a little bit in his stance because 320 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: right now he's he's he's a little slow and not 321 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 2: nearly as powerful as he could be getting out of 322 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: his stands in that first step. So if you fix that, 323 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: I think you got a really good offensive lineman. Then 324 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: Bo Stevens he had one of my favorite reps this 325 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: week where god, I cannot remember who he was going 326 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: up against, but he was going up against somebody on 327 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: a on a one on one rep and he loses 328 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: the rarow Jackson put yeah, and he loses the rep 329 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: and he goes and he picks up the ball. He 330 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: puts the ball on the ground and he says, no, no, no, no, no, 331 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: We're going again again, run it again, and he got 332 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 2: the better of him. 333 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackson tried the same move and he pulled them 334 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: down because Jackson leaned too much forward. 335 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: That's and that's like, that's what this event's all about. 336 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I love it too. I'm with you, Johnson. 337 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: The podcast has brought to you by Citizens Official Bank 338 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: at the Giants Can Gain. 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Yeah, and and 348 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: that's what you want to see from him. I mean, 349 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: when I was watching one of the individual drills actually 350 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: over in the corner of the end zone here, this 351 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: was yesterday, they were going through a drill where you 352 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: needed to get low, you needed to chop your feet 353 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: through the bags that were that there were that were 354 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: on the the pads that were that were on the ground, 355 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: and then you needed to flip your hips, you know, 356 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: give a club, move to the bag and every but whatever. 357 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: But the whole point of the drill was to stay low, 358 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: to stay low, to stay loaded, be able to turn 359 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: and control your body. And for almost everybody that was 360 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: running this drill, the coaches like, get down, get your 361 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: butt now, you are too like you're too upright. And 362 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: when Zane ran it, all all you heard was. 363 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: Good, good, good, Zane good. 364 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: And like natural leverage is a wonderful thing travel and 365 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: that is what especially in the trenches obviously, And so 366 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: that's what he needs to do really well. 367 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: And I thought he had his strongest practice on Wednesday 368 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: as well, because that drill and that mindset I think 369 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: was just a reminder and kind of helped him set 370 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: the tone for what he needs to do. So I 371 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: think he has been good. Lee Hunter has been fantastic 372 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: from Texas a Texas Tech as well. I think Caleb 373 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: Banks had a slow day one really nice dates. 374 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: He's been flashing. 375 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: He had flashed, yes, and somebody who didn't play a 376 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: ton this year because he had the foot injury, and 377 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: so it was just good to see him out here 378 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: playing football just because he had that injury. This year, man, 379 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: I thought he was a second rounder if he would 380 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: have gone into last year's draft. And then he comes back, 381 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: I think wants to be a first rounder, but we 382 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: just didn't see a lot of him because of that injury. 383 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: But in this draft he might just be I agree, Yeah, No, 384 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: I agree, he might just be with the foot injury. Yeah. 385 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 386 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: of crunch time football, I'm your man. 387 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan, 388 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: you should talk to citizens. 389 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: Hey, I can also talk long care. I'd like to 390 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: learn about Amillia routine. Yes, I knew I could help 391 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: makes sense of your money with citizens. No, I'm with you. 392 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the edge spot man, and 393 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: I remember the last time we had so many big 394 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: edges Trevor in a class. Whether it's TJ. Parker, I 395 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: think this has done pretty well this week. Zion Young 396 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: who's done well this week? Yeah, I know, the more 397 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: kid from Michigan is not the biggest kid, but he 398 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: plays big just a very if you want a pocket 399 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: crusher on the edge. This is the draft class for you. 400 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: No, I agree with you completely. It's it's a lot 401 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: of guys who you're not going to be worried about 402 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: from a power perspective. 403 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: And TJ. 404 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: Parker is one of those guys like you mentioned and 405 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: Zion Young certainly. I mean like that that's his mo 406 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: with somebody who's over two hundred and sixty pounds six 407 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: foot five. I mean, that's how he won when he 408 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: was at Missouri. He was incredibly competitive, likes to run 409 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: his mouth in a great way, by the way. I 410 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: love when defensive players like to do that, and you 411 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: know he backs it up. I think he gets low 412 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: in his stance, very loaded, great exposion, is good first 413 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: step acceleration. Now he's he the best overall athlete when 414 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: it comes to running up the arc and attacking it 415 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: on the outside shoulder. No, not the best, but he'll 416 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: run through your face if you don't have a good 417 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: anchor for him. And I think the same thing with 418 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: t J. Parker. TJ. Parker were sitting here, He's like, ah, 419 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: you know any worthy of being a first rounder? You 420 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: know what kind of an NFL player are we talking 421 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: about here, and he get from snap one that I 422 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: saw him in the one on one drills on Tuesday. 423 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: It just you go. You look at him and you go, yeah, 424 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: top fifty. 425 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: He gets the long arm, yeah I know, on the 426 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: collar of the offensive line, and he just pushes it 427 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: back every time, no question. 428 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: So I mean like him you mentioned you know, Derek Moore, 429 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: I thought that Romelo height has looked good. Not named 430 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: Tucker from Western Michigan has looked good as a speed 431 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: rusher as well. Max Llewellen from Iowa was really flashing. 432 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: Denis Sun is big on the edge too. He's powerful, 433 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lot of he doesn't have a 434 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: lot of variety of pass rushing moves, but he's a 435 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: strong edge. 436 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: And so just it. This is the deepest group here 437 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: in mobile and that is indicative of what the class 438 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: is overall. 439 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: It's the imagineive Belly and Bain showed up to the 440 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: original guys that. 441 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: At one point committed to this event as well. 442 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: And look, I think heights the exception. Right. He's the smaller, 443 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: twitchy guy, right, He's the guy that's gonna bend the edge, 444 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: and he he does have a burst. Man he can 445 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: ge attack that edge really well. 446 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah he does. I'm a little bit worried about him 447 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: from an overall power perspective, I agree, But but to 448 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: his credit and what I think he did a really 449 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: great job of this year as opposed to last year 450 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: when he was really able to blow up as a 451 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: pass rusher this past season with Texas Tech is I 452 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: think he mainly wanted to just win as a speed rusher, 453 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: meaning attacking the outside shoulder when he was at Georgia 454 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: Tech and throughout his career, and I think he gets 455 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: to he got to a point where, Okay, well, if 456 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: I didn't get a really good jump on my first step, 457 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: or if this OFFENSI attack which just had some really 458 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: good length, a lot of times they could still push me. 459 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: If I was going to the outside shoulder, I could 460 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: get a good jump, but they could still handle me. 461 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: What he's doing this year is he's become better at 462 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: selling that outside move and then cutting inside and you know, 463 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: having a great two handed swipe to be like okay, 464 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: now I'm moving inside. Now I'm crossing your body. Now 465 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm swiping your hands away as well. So really good 466 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: inside move specialist Romelo Height has become as well. 467 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: And he knows. I interviewed him on Tuesday and I 468 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: asked him, you know what he wants to show scale 469 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: to speaking, the first thing you said was setting the edge. 470 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: So he knows he has to prove these NFL teams 471 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: that he's going to be a better run stopper. So 472 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: we'll see if he could do that throughout the draft process. 473 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: Good linebacker class, and I think that's reflected here too. Man. 474 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: I agree Kyle Lewis might have had the best practice 475 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: of any single player at any position just before we 476 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: started this. I don't know with his size what an 477 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: NFL team's going to do with him, but he's a 478 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: good football player. 479 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: He is a really good football player, and you've seen 480 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: that over his tape and pit for the last couple 481 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: of years. I remember him watching it, watching him again 482 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: during the summer, like summer scouting, and I was like, Okay, 483 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: I like you a lot. I just don't think you're 484 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: very big. And so linebacker has just become a very 485 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 2: interesting position where. 486 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: Five eleven through twenty four about if you look. 487 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: At which is small, which is really small, but you 488 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: look at the NFL and yeah, there's there's sort of 489 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 2: like a size threshold that you have to have. But 490 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: we're getting so much faster and so much lighter everywhere. 491 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: That like, linebacker is one of those positions that you 492 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: just you don't have to be, you know, six four 493 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: two fifty anymore. You don't. Now, it's nice when you 494 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 2: have guys like that, but you just don't have to. 495 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: So him Becher from Oregon, I thought I had a 496 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: great week. 497 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: He's not big, by the way, but he's tough at 498 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage better, he plays the hammer on people. 499 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: So him sorry from Arkansas. Heinike from Oklahoma. These dudes 500 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: were bats out of hell going towards the line of scrimmage. 501 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: And then Jacob Rodriguez from Texas sex as well. He 502 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: was one of the best in all of college football 503 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: at forcing turnovers, interceptions, force fumbles, and guess what, yesterday 504 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: he had a force fumble and an interception in the 505 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: same practice. So surprise surprise there. 506 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely all right, let's jump over to the defensive backs. 507 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: Some people who liked to that the defensive back class. 508 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm not as high as other people are. I'm curious, 509 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: what do you think of the group that's here? You know, 510 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: Colin hood Is is supposed to be the first one drafted. 511 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: He didn't. He hasn't impressed me all that much. He's 512 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: been fine. Yeah, But I mean, Chris Johnston, I think 513 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: has had a pretty good two days. Who are some 514 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: of the corners that have jumped out to you? 515 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: It has not been a big standout week for the corners. 516 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 2: I do agree with you. I think Thaddeus Dixon from 517 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: North Carolina, who's one of my sort of underrated players 518 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: in this class, has gotten better as the event has 519 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: gone on. 520 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: You had a pick today. 521 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: He did have a pick today. You know, Holton hood 522 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: You're right, a little bit of an up and down week. 523 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: Chris Johnson. I worry about him because as an off 524 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 2: zone coverage corner and he's great. We have him as 525 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: with an elite coverage grade when he is in those 526 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: zone coverage assignments, But when you go into man coverage, 527 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: it's different for him. And I think that you see 528 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: that here, especially in the red zone period where there's 529 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 2: not a lot of zone going on. It's hey, you 530 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: got to man these guys up. We don't have a 531 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: lot of space to work with, and you see guys 532 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: getting behind him a little bit too easy. He's just 533 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: not nearly as confident in that regard. So I think 534 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: he's a good corner, but he's a little bit scheme 535 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: dependent in my opinion. At the safety level, though, I 536 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: think the Bud Clark has had a really good week 537 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: the safety out of TCU. He had a pick today too, 538 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: he did. He had a pick today, a really nice 539 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: pass breakup yesterday. I saw him have another pass breakup 540 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: when he was in the end zone in the red 541 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: zone drill. And he is somebody who is playing incredibly confidently. 542 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: He's again running his mouth in a great way as well, 543 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: which I want my defensive backs to do. And he's 544 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: got the size to be able to match a lot 545 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: of wide receivers and tight ends, specifically as a slot defender, 546 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 2: where he has played a good amount of his snaps 547 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: at TCU over the last couple of years, and so 548 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: been impressed with him as well. 549 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: Trev good stuff man. Always a pleasure. All right, We're 550 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: gonna go enjoy the two thousand and five playlist that 551 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: they have just saved and they've been playing on NonStop 552 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: for the past three days. Here it's it's it's my 553 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: college years. It's all over again. It's fantastic. Trevor sick 554 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: of our pro football focus on John Schmouth. That's this 555 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: giin Hale podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the official 556 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: bank of the Giants. We'll see you next time.