1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Dude, it's fucking dope man. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: So excited to be joined on this couch by Sean 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Brady because he's Philly tough, right. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: Brian and Luke didn't tell me much about this interview. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the show, so these two 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: are always going off the rail. 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: Sean, I have to sit this close to you, not 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: necessarily because I want to have a heat seeking booty, 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: but because of the angle of the camera. 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: This is a nice little step you guys, this is 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: this couch that's just your drugger. 12 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: They would have rolled up one hundred and we were like, 13 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: it's a little too little sketchy waiting on you, Loup. 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: She's too I mean, against that couch. I could not 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 1: imagine a worse look for you, Jesus, because I look 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: like a polar bear riding a bicycle. One so good that. Yeah. 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: Some of the very best rappers that I love, the 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: best underground rappers come from the city of brotherly love, Philadelphia, 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: and one of our favorite Walterweights also comes from Philadelphia. 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: It's my friend in yours joining us here for room 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: service diaries. 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: It's Sean Brady. 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: Hi, Sean Brady, Sean Brady, how many times have people 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 3: said to you not from Philly, Hey, how come you 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 3: talk just like Eddie Alvarez? 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: A lot, a lot. 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: Philly accent is unique. 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's serious, but it's I guess we're proud 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: of it. 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: So you know how I can if you're from Boston, 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: the joke is pocked the kain ha ya? Do you 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: guys have like a Philly tongue twister around the accent? 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: Ah? The way we say wood. Everyone makes fun of us, 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: I say, and I guess it's like I got my 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: bodder in this little plastic in this paper bag here. 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: I guess it's supposed to be water. But yeah, that's 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: that's one. Uh, there's a lot, there's a lot, all right. 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: So are you born and raised Philly? 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Philadelphia? Born Northeast Philadelphia? The playground I'm from like halfway 40 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: in the middle. I'm from blue collar Philadelphia. 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: How many batteries have you thrown at various baseball players 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: at the stadium? 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: Personally? Not me, some people I probably know many. 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: How many lampposts did you tear down when the Eagles 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl. 46 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: I've watched them, greased them, and I've watched people climb Yeah, how. 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: Many times have you chanted Big Dick Nick because of 48 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: what he was able to do for the Philadelphia Eagles. 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: We've chanted Big Dick Nick many times. 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: It's kind of bio incredible. Well, listen, let's let's let's 51 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: sort of recap here. So you are not in the 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: middle of a fight camp. Nope, but you did have 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: the last winner of Michael Kis. How have things been 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: since then? I know you, I know your septum was 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: all fucked up. 56 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so I broke my nose so many times 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: I can't tell. Yeah, that's people like, you got your 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: nose fix, but it still looks like shit. I'm like, well, 59 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: the inside work, so that's what matters. But uh I 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: got my step and fixed. I'm breathing. I'm back. I've 61 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: been back to training and we're hoping to get a fight. 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, I beat Kissa. I was still in the 63 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: limb of getting a fight and we weren't hearing anything. 64 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what, fuck it, I'm gonna 65 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: get my nose fixed. I haven't been able to breathe 66 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: for a long time. And uh so that's where we're 67 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: at now. 68 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: That's fifteen and oh yeah, so you're in that like, 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: oh shit, I'm coming on stretch of your career. 70 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm trying. I don't get uh, 71 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't get that much love. I don't think, but 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: why not? What do you think? I don't I don't 73 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: know if it's like how the US is, Like I 74 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: feel like if you're from another country, no matter who 75 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: you are, like they support the shit out of their guys. 76 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: Like if you look at rockmanof like he doesn't say 77 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: anything online, but he has three hundred thousand Instagram followers. 78 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: His people support him no matter what. I just feel 79 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: like we have so many different sports and so many 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: different athletes. It's like, I don't know if it's just 81 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: hard to support everybody. But that's not how it is. 82 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: Ever actually acknowledged his Indian birthright, he would have that 83 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: same following, just just to point them out fairly. 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: But when it comes to the world's dumbest thing, when it. 85 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: Comes to where you're at at this point, like you're hungry, 86 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: you want to prove yourself bad, but you gotta wait 87 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: your turn. How do you like navigate that period? Is 88 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: it just about every day? I gotta do this every day? 89 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: I got to prove them yeah. 90 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: I I love training more than anything in my life. 91 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: You know, I really pride myself on just trying to 92 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: get better every single day. So I don't have a fight, 93 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to get the best I can. I 94 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: stay in shape three hundred and sixty five days a year. 95 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: This is it's my life, you know. And even mean bro, 96 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah eat clean bro, that's ah. They're actually a company, 97 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: I know, so, but no, seriously, I just I just 98 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: priye myself on getting better every single day and that's 99 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do until I have a fight. 100 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: And once I have a fight, I'm trying to test 101 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: myself against the best guys world. 102 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: Did you grow up with that eye of the tiger 103 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: when it came to play in sports? 104 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: Who were you in high school? Who were I start? 105 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: It's funny my high school didn't have I went to 106 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: like a trade school, so they I went to the 107 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: school for auto mechanics. We didn't have a restling school. 108 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: Did you go to a school for auto mechanics because 109 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: earlier in your life you got caught stealing cars? 110 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: No, I'd never stolen a car. What kind of dick 111 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: question is that? Large? Where you in a tiny chair? 112 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: This Chirby worse. Could the chair bey worse? I don't know. 113 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: Uh, never stole in a car in my life, just 114 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: to just to be successfully, yes, yes, yes, but now. 115 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: And I started training martial arts pretty young. I started 116 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: in ninth grade. I started training Muay Thai. Then I 117 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: found jiu jitsu. 118 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 3: In ninth grade. What fourteen or fifteen? What occurred to 119 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 3: you to go to a multai? 120 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: Well, but we all, like most kids in high school, 121 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: they started lifting weights. We were lifting at a local 122 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: wreck and a buddy of mine was doing jiu jitsu 123 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: already and doing muay Thai, and he was younger than me, 124 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: and his older brother trained too, And after after school 125 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: they'd be walking the class in their geeze and we'd 126 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: be fucking making fun of them. 127 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's called the lamest fucking Yeah. 128 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: I saw a guy to get a bus stop and 129 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: I wanted, I hope the bus gets You. 130 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: Didn't have guys with geez in my time, but we 131 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: have the ratzy people, the people in the damn. 132 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry to cut you off. He would walk it. 133 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: They would walk to uh it's it's called Tember five mma, 134 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: and they were training and then they're like listen, like 135 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: you guys should come do it. So me, a couple 136 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: of my buddies, and my younger brother all went. We 137 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: did the two week free trial and I signed up. 138 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: They all kind of fizzled out, and I stuck with it, 139 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: and then I trained throughout all high school. I had 140 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: my first fight when I was nineteen. I was five, 141 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: and I was an amateur, and I turned pro when 142 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: I was twenty one. 143 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: So how'd you get good at wrestling? Just through MMA? I? Yeah, 144 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: just through m You never wrestled on a wrestling team 145 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: right now? 146 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: Nope? Never. People asked me all the time, they're like, 147 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: where'd you wrestle? That word? And I it was just 148 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: through MMA. 149 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: So you're coming up in this blue collar town, almost 150 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: like a factory town vibe. 151 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 1: Yes, except he's a man that same intention. All right. 152 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: You probably hung out on couches like this in basements, 153 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: all right? Or you had a couch like this in 154 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: my basement. Okay. 155 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: But were you that kid that took chances and got 156 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: in trouble and explored and experimented life or were you 157 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: focused that you were on your way to something while 158 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: you were starting to have this success. 159 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: But just to add, you said you stuck around, like 160 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: training when your friends fizzled out, Like, why did you 161 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: stick around? 162 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, to be honest, I so I was, 163 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: like when I got super serious about fighting was when 164 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: I was four to o as an amateur. I was 165 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: so going out on the weekends drinking beers, like literally 166 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: up until the weekend before my fights, wearing drug bros 167 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: not doing drugs, Camaro let them doing drugs. I was 168 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: drinking beers though, that's for sure, weeks like literally the 169 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: week before my fight, and I just didn't know anybody. 170 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: I was nineteen years old when I was fighting, and 171 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: I was winning fights. And then I bet Kristen and 172 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: it was my last amateur fight. As this is your wife? 173 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: Is my wife? 174 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: Now? 175 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: Yes, sorry, it's official. We're married, reamy news, we are 176 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: all married. And then I was training with Johnathan Webb 177 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: who was in the UFC. Paul Felder was in the UFC, 178 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: but at the time they're all fighting for Kage Fury 179 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: and they're like, listen, like, if you're serious about this, 180 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: you can go somewhere with the career. And uh so 181 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: that was my first fight. I did a twelve week 182 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: training camp, no drinking, no eating, like an asshole. I 183 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: won first round submission, and then that's kind of where 184 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: it all started for me. 185 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: What was the first time you met Paul Felder. 186 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: Paul was coming from so there was this gym and 187 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: all all these guys were coming out of there, and 188 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: their coach was kind of an asshole, like super wouldn't 189 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: let them go cross training with other people, like really 190 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: like really controlling that jersey. 191 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 4: Guy, right, he determined jiu jitsu was craon. 192 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 193 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was very, very overbearing of these guys. So 194 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: Paul was still fighting for CFFC and he was looking 195 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: to transition into a different team and it was me 196 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Gracie where Daniel us move to Philly. Our gym 197 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: was just getting set up. Paul came over and then 198 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: it was kind of history. Paul came, John and the 199 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: Webb came and then we had we kind of started 200 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: to do. 201 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 4: Like I guess what I'm saying is, do you remember 202 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 4: the first time you trained with him? 203 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? So the first he just broke his nose, just 204 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: got his stepped them fixed and uh, John, John and 205 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: the Webb came out to music. Bro like this dude's 206 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: a fucking hot head. Just keep your hand, keep your 207 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: hands up when you when you spar him. So literally, 208 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: every time anyone was sparring Paul, he would start throwing 209 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: bombs on you, and we were just his takedown defense sucked, 210 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: so we were just taking them down and just rounded 211 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: panel them and just submitting them. But over the years 212 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: it got better and better, so those takedowns became harder 213 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: to get. But yeah, long time for me it was 214 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: hook shoot, take Paul down and beat him up on 215 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: the ground because he was throwing wheel kicks at your knees, 216 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: elbows and he'll tell you too, so but yeah, he 217 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: was a he was a hard dude to deal with 218 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: on the feet. But it made us all fucking super good. 219 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: So boxing's got that Philadelphia fighters stigma. 220 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: That means stick well, that's a badge of honor, okay, 221 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 4: but it. 222 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: Means toughness, but it also has like that other side 223 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: of it. Were sometimes too tough for your own good, 224 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: like a Meldrick Taylor. Is there something like that on 225 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: the m M A side as well? 226 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, or is it just no? I know what 227 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm what I'm made of coming from philm I mean 228 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: kind of because if you look at two of the 229 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: bigger names that came out of Philly, Paul and Eddie Alvarez. 230 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: There they built their they built their careers on hard 231 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: and toughness, you know, and that life. Me yeah, definitely 232 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: about that life. And me and Eddie actually connected during 233 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: the pandemic because he was fighting for one and I 234 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: had UFC fights coming up because we were still fighting, 235 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: So we trained a lot together. 236 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: And uh, where was he training when you first came up? 237 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: Because he was a big deal already. 238 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: Eddie was trained at the shim called the Fight Factory. 239 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: That's right, Fight Fight fact. He was trying to fight Factory. 240 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: And then he eventually he moved down to what was 241 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: then it wasn't Sanford, it was Hard Knox or Hard Knox. 242 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: It was Black Zillions. Yes, so he was the Black Zillions. 243 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: And then he moved back and was training with Frank 244 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: Jeger and Ricardo made Yah that's right, he's super friend. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. 245 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: So they had that whole thing going on and then 246 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: but now he's so we were all just training and 247 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, back to the Philly has definitely got some 248 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: fucking super grit to them. Definitely, uh, definitely got some tough. 249 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: But for boxing. 250 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: Here's the thing about it, It's like I understand Philly 251 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: boxing and it's community even though I'm an MMA fan, Yeah, 252 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: more than I have a clear sense of Philly MMA. 253 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: Just look at the Dakas Brothers Philly MMA. 254 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: I no, no, it's not that Philly MMA is not there. 255 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: They're there and then some it's just that what is 256 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: the what is the Philly MMA community relative to the 257 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: Philly box Is it? 258 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: And I'm being serious, is it just along racial lines? 259 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: I really, it's it's weird, like we all have our 260 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: own Like the Darkest Brothers, I actually started training with them. 261 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: We were all from that same gym, Somber five MMA, 262 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Like they were there when I went there. Their coaches 263 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: went one way. My coach stayed there, so they they 264 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: went to a different gym and I stayed at Sember five. 265 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: And now it's kind of it's me Jeremiah Wells who's 266 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: in the UFC, Pat Sabatini, Paul Felder. Pat's a hammer. 267 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: He's probably one of the best guys I've ever trained with, 268 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: regardless of size. Like he is the hardest round in 269 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: the room, and he's another guy he gets no respect 270 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: that he deserves. He's foreign in the UFC and nobody's 271 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: talking about him. But Philly's it's taken a while to 272 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: get where it's at. Like we're almost at a good 273 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: spot where I feel like people are starting to recognize 274 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: what's going on in Philly, especially with our team. But 275 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: like you said before that it was just Eddie and 276 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: kind of no one knew about Philly Mma, you know, 277 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: but always thought about his boxing. 278 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and get about into the lack of respect. Do 279 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: you think it's like, I mean, here's the thing about 280 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: you and Pat. You guys also don't talk shit on 281 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: social Well that's out the banging pots and pans, you know. 282 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: That's not big on social at all either. 283 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: And honestly, to Eddie's credit, Eddie, I mean, people would 284 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: pick fights with Eddie on social Yeah, but I don't 285 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 3: really recall Eddie trolling anybody, ya, not really, not much. 286 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Eddie's the same way. He's kind of just built 287 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: his thing off of hnderground King. Yeah. Yeah, and he's 288 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: not on social media. He's not huge on social media. 289 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: Neither is Paul. It's just I don't know, I just 290 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: feel like some people just had that thing. It's just 291 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: that reputation Uner's great at talking shit because that's in him. 292 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: And then you try to see all these guys implement it, 293 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: and they look like fucking idiots, and it sounds bad, 294 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: like I don't want to be that guy. Pat doesn't 295 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: want to be that guy. So we just we win fights, 296 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: and then that's how we're gonna build who we are. 297 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: When you talk about not yet getting that respect, maybe it's, 298 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: you know, the bigotry of fans that are intimidated by 299 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: your aggressive ink. 300 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: No what I mean you know? I no, no, no, 301 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: you're full of shit. Because here's why I know you're 302 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 3: full of shit. I don't have nearly the amount of 303 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: tattoos you do, but even this big one I have 304 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: here when I take my daughter to like gymnastics practice, 305 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: all the other kids look at me like a fucking 306 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: godzilla walk in the door. 307 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: So I know people, obviously I'm joking with you, but 308 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: you do have a very distinctive ink game already. No, 309 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: you know what in a sport that has a lot 310 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: of shitty tattoos, But there are some alphas out there. 311 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: He's got some good ones. 312 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: Josh Emitt's game, I like Michael Kay's game. 313 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: Is he in the running Luke for best ink in this. 314 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: Yes he is. Can I see the inside right bicep? 315 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: So that is I mean that is the dude, look 316 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: at that. That is extraordinary. 317 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm actually getting I'm getting this. I'm getting a lot 318 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: of stuff lasered. I'm getting all redone because covered, and 319 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: then I'm getting laser light like lightened up and then 320 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: blasted over because I'm like most people, they get tattoos 321 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: when they're young and they don't know what they fucking like. 322 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: Now I'm all about Japanese, so like this is all 323 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: new school, like all new Japanese. My whole body is 324 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: pretty much Japanese. So I'm trying to hold Japanese body. 325 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: Shoe likes the technique, I love the color, okay, but no, no, 326 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: the Japanese is tremendous. 327 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: That's what my left my left arm is going to 328 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: be a foreign Japanese leap. When you got the hands covered, 329 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: that's a real commitment covered. 330 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and boy, and I mean the back of 331 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: your head's a real commitment to which one was worse. 332 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: The back of my head was pretty bad. The hands 333 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: actually aren't that bad. I have both my feet done. 334 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: They're not bad. 335 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: No, I got the inside of the wrist. 336 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: Here was they all? They all hurt, the ass, the 337 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: ass cheek hurt. You're not one of those guys. I 338 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: have my ass cheek tattooed. 339 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: I like to point out Brian Campbell's like, I don't 340 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: get ass cheek tattoos. Andy Ruiz and Sean Brady have 341 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: ash cheek tattoos. 342 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm going I'm the right cheek is going to be next. 343 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: If you everbody, if you say, hey, BC, you know 344 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: Luke a long time, what does he look for in 345 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: a man dude. 346 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: As tattoos asstats. 347 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: He is texting me pictures of ass tats all the time, going, BC, 348 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: this is the technique that I'm looking. 349 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: Like with Japanese tattoos, a lot of guys they go 350 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: from their back, they go down and they go and 351 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: they cover the back of their button. That's like a 352 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: big that's a big thing. That's got to be an 353 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: uncomfortable acquisition. It's not yeah, yeah, it's not. 354 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: I mean that guy, that guy is down there thinking 355 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: I'm either going to change his oil or tattoo. 356 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Is that like I got one of the other right, 357 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: you know what? Yeah, it's like that book at all. 358 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: It's it's not a comfortable spot to get tattooed. Why 359 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: do you want to be so tattooed? Like? 360 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: People ask me that, I have my own answer. 361 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: What's yours? What are you hiding from? Uh? I just 362 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: love I just love it. I just love Japanese art. 363 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: They're fucking look cool and I just enjoy the process. 364 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: I've never heard about you. 365 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: I've never been into piercings, yeah, never into crazy hairstyles, 366 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: but I have always thought tattoos were Yeah, it's that 367 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: was the way I people decorate with. You don't wear 368 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: a lot of jewelry either, Nope, I don't wear jewelry. 369 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: I got me back at my wedding ring. 370 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: But that's it. 371 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: But I did want to decorate myself with tattoos. 372 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: Yes, And the age I'm at now and the style 373 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: I like good Japanese solid tattoos is where I'm at. 374 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: I know what I like. 375 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: Okay with dragons, big Brother because saying what's too far? 376 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: Because Austin Vanderford has an aggressive throat test, so it's 377 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: too far for you personally. 378 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: There's nothing too far from me, my mother inside the 379 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: lips and ship. Oh yeah, that's too far for me. 380 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: For my mom is the front of my neck. She's 381 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: begging me not to do the front of my neck, 382 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: and I want to scream a different generation for sure. 383 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm want to do the sides of my head to 384 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: wear like my haircuts done like you can see it, brutal, uh, 385 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: sides of my neck I'll do. I'm going to try 386 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: to hold off from the front of my Luke's been 387 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: trying to get me to get like a teared my 388 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is that? 389 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: You good look? 390 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: He's like, no, go to Harvard to be good. 391 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: I've talked, We've talked about neck tattoos. 392 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 393 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: The front of the throat, the blasting of the inside 394 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: of the throat, that is a lot, But I think 395 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: the side of the neck not so bad. 396 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, just like a like what you're talking about doing 397 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: with your arm, just like a singular piece like yeah, 398 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: like I would do like a big cat, like some 399 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: kind of like cat on the side of my neck 400 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: where I want to get a traditional style eagle on 401 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: the side of my neck. That's what I was Do 402 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: you think during that pain does like build a deeper 403 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: resolve in you? Well, like me and my man Luke 404 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: were talking about, I try to get down part of that. 405 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: I get that. Listen, there's there's it's twenty twenty two, 406 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: there's numbing cream. It doesn't it doesn't doesn't do It 407 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: doesn't take all the pain away, but it takes away 408 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: a good amount. 409 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: Of If if they could lessen up childbirth, which they 410 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: have thanks to drugs, M where are we at with tattoos? 411 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: Because that's what I tell my doctor every year at 412 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: the at the checkup, when he's like, you know, we 413 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: could we could do that this year. 414 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: You know, we could figure out where you're at there, 415 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, dude, look how many times he 416 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: derailed the conversation. 417 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: No, No, I mean that balls or what. 418 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: But I mean that it's unbelievab. 419 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: And sometimes I'm like, maybe I just need a tough enough. 420 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: Maybe I can start getting tattoos if I just toughen up. Yeah. 421 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: They think they're like, oh, what if we did a 422 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: bit where we look, you go to Vegas and you 423 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: go get like a flash tattoo off the wall. 424 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, wouldn't that be like amazing? 425 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, Like it's not some motherfucker that's not 426 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: going to get drive through for me. 427 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah, so you've gone out to get like 428 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: run errands and come back with the tattoo you. 429 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: There's there's times. 430 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 4: Where I wanted to is the point. But if you 431 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: guys are gonna pay for you. 432 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: We can do that. Uh My wife, Kristen, she doesn't 433 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: she doesn't even know what's going on at this point 434 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: in my tattle, I started, I got the honia on 435 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: my back and that was it was over from there. 436 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: She has She was like, what does she say about him? 437 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: She just she doesn't like my She doesn't like the 438 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: Honya personally, she's get her hot care. She's not a fan, 439 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: but now she like loves everything else. But I come 440 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: home with I have so much ship done. She doesn't 441 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: even know what's new, what's old. So yeah, it's it's 442 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: all just getting covered up. How does she deal with 443 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: your career? I think she deals with it a lot 444 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: better than most people would. I think she uh sometimes 445 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: might need to be She could be fighting instead of me, 446 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: Like when she was at the Apex. That was the 447 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: first time she's seen me fight since the pandemic, and 448 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: she was motherfucking this, motherfucking that. I'm pretty sure Sewan 449 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: Shelby looked back and said, damn, she's got her mouth 450 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: on her. And yes, his wife was like right there. 451 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: And uh yeah, cratty if I'm wrong, and I think 452 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: this is right? Isn't Eddie Alvarez's wife also like ultra aggressive? 453 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: Yep, you can hear her screaming Edie like like on 454 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: the broadcast. But yeah, no, no, no, no, I think 455 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: it's who was it? 456 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: It was Carl Was Carl Frampton's wife that was the 457 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 3: same way or Carl Froch Frampton want to saying Frampton 458 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 3: Carl Frotch his wasn't his wife like super loud? 459 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: She was super hot? Rachel? 460 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: I don't know, but no, there was a box that 461 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 4: I had a wife like that too. 462 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Eddie's wife is is the same way. But now she, 463 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: like I said, she's been with me since I was 464 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: nobody had nothing amateur, So yeah, she's been along this 465 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: ride with me and she deals with it. What about 466 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: the injuries though, coming home with those, I honestly haven't 467 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: had that many like bad injuries. I get some stitches 468 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: here and there, my my nose, I broke my nose. 469 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 4: But you have the you had the staff infection. 470 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: So that was literally that was completely different. Because that 471 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: was the first time I've ever even had fucking staff 472 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: in my life, and it just turns out to be 473 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: almost the worst case and I almost lost my leg 474 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: because of it. But that was thank you for not 475 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: watching our first interview. Here's the that's a scar if 476 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: you can see it, is that where they ran the pickline, 477 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: So the pickline was in my pickline was in my 478 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: in my bicep. So that was like the worst experience 479 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: of my people. A lot of people don't know. It's 480 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: like I told you that Ki has to fight. I 481 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: was off for that, uh when I was still not 482 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: even clear to train. My ankle wasn't even my incision 483 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: was still open because when they stitched me up, my 484 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: my cut was so big they couldn't fully stitch it. 485 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: So when they took the stitches out, I still had 486 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: a big gash in my in my foot and I 487 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: started to pick line in my arm, so I couldn't. 488 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to sweat or do anything like that. 489 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: So she would come home and I'd be riding my 490 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: echo bike in the fucking garage. In the garage, I 491 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: had fans on me, so I wasn't sweating, and as 492 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: soon as I would start sweating. I would stop and 493 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: then my heart like calm down, and I'd start ripping 494 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: it again. But yeah, it was a different breed, different breed. 495 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 4: Right there, sweat walking up. 496 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if the cameras picking up, but you 497 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 2: were like, okay, okay. 498 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: The echo bike is designed. 499 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: To hurt you. You know what. I was dripping it 500 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: right before I came here this morning. Book. 501 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: Okay, Then then, dude, to be fair, like, what is 502 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: your drive at the moment? Is it about proving people wrong? 503 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: Is it about making the money? Like, what is the 504 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: thing that is like pushing you to do? 505 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: I want to be the the best me. Like if 506 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: you if you guys follow Paul, like like obviously I do. 507 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: When I'm done fighting, I'm fucking competing jiu jitsu, I'm 508 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: fucking running marathons, I'm doing iron Man's like I just 509 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: I love putting myself in pain, like I just enjoy it. 510 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: I love training, and I just want to become the 511 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: best version of myself. And there's no other sport to 512 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: do it like martial arts, because you can literally not 513 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: you can't be the best at anything. There's always new 514 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: ship to learn, there's always something you can get better at. 515 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: There's always you can get stronger, you can get more condition, 516 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: There's always something you can get better at. And that's 517 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: what I'm trying. He likes his pleasure spike with pain. 518 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: Interesting way to think about it. 519 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: Have you ever thought thought back to like the tattoos 520 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: will probably fit into that, right, even with the Yeah, 521 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: have you ever thought about, like why it is that 522 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 3: you like embracing like quite literal pains. 523 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. 524 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: I just enjoy it. I enjoy it. I love like 525 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: even I don't have a fight coming up, and I'm 526 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm sparring twice a week. As you can see, I 527 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: got a black eye. I fucking sort of seat training 528 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: hard and I just love just hard fucking training. It's 529 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: there's nothing better. 530 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: It's interesting, though, Like, because this is to me, maybe 531 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: maybe we alway talk about like, oh, fighter versus athlete, 532 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: and you know a good athletes can make good fighters. 533 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: You're clearly a good athlete or that about it. 534 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, but dude, if you don't have that embrace that 535 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: you have, yeah, I don't give I don't give a shit. 536 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: If you're a well romero athletically, yeah, you know what 537 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, I've seen guys come in who are 538 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: good athletes, and like you said, good athlete doesn't mean 539 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: you're going to be a good fighter, And you have 540 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: to have that fighter in you. If you're an athlete, 541 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: it's going to help. But there there aren't many guys 542 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: who come in like and they're like, oh, yeah, I'm 543 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: a really good athlete. And if you don't have at 544 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: least a little bit of that fighter in you, you're 545 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: not gonna last because once you once you have hard rounds, 546 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: once you get tired, you're you're just gonna quit and 547 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: you're not gonna win. 548 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: But you're at the point in your career where you're 549 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: still in some of your victories in your mind just 550 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: outworking people. Obviously at this level you have to outthink 551 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: people as well, and then sometimes you just have to 552 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: be you know, ability to just make things happen in 553 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: the moment whatever. But like, do you still feel like 554 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: you're just out desiring people in the cage? 555 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that I haven't even shown a fucking 556 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: I know a lot of guys say this. I think 557 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: I haven't shown a tenth of what my coaches and 558 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: my training partners know that I'm capable of my I'm 559 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: just my mind is still catching up to my physical 560 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. 561 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because to be clear, you handled Kissa with an 562 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 2: ease that even if people had picked you coming in, 563 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 2: I'm not sure they. 564 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, honestly, I thought that fight was gonna be 565 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: a lot of eager year than it was. But I 566 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: broke my nose and I couldn't breathe. So I lost one, 567 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: maybe two minutes of a fifteen minute fight, and I'm 568 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: fucking sick with myself about how that went. You know, 569 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: I wish I could do it all over again and 570 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: finished Kisa, which I think I would, But. 571 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: But your mindset is about just essentially mastering yourself and 572 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: getting in a very up and if it if that 573 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: leads to a UFC time. 574 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: I know the best, the best me can finish anybody 575 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: in the top fifteen, in the top ten, in the 576 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: top five, and I know I can be a UFC champion. 577 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: I just gotta get the opportunities to do it. 578 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: Let's talk about some of these guys. What did you 579 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: make of Humsaud versus Gilbert Burns Man? 580 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: It was, uh, I seen a lot of people giving 581 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: hum shit because he had a tough fight like I 582 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: feel like people thought Hamza was gonna go in there 583 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: and fucking shoot lasers out of his eyes like he's not. 584 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: He's not, he's a human, Like he's yeah, he's very 585 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: very good, and he mauled a couple of guys who 586 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: weren't that good and skill, but Gilbert, like, I knew 587 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: that was not gonna like go down like that. I 588 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be a tough fight, and I 589 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: knew Gilbert was gonna take it to him, and he 590 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: fucking did. And hams out looked great to go in 591 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: there being number eleven, to be the number two guy, 592 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: like that's a big fucking jump, and he looked great. 593 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: And how many people do you think could have done 594 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: exactly what Gilbert did in that fight, be that freaking 595 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: savage and keep pushing that and take on that damage. 596 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: In our in our division? Not not that many. Hamsaud's 597 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: beating most of the guys in the division, but uh 598 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: not me. You know, I think I can beat all 599 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: these guys, and uh, I think we're gonna go like 600 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: this until we meet each other, and it's definite gonna 601 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: So part. 602 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 2: Of you saying, you know you haven't had a chance 603 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: yet to show how great you can be. Is that 604 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: particularly angle that spar at your striking, at your at 605 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: your or or do you think you've shown it well 606 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: as well balanced as you could. 607 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: I just feel like, uh, it's when you go in 608 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: there and you fight. It's there's no It's the weirdest 609 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: experience of your life. It's so hard to explain because 610 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't it's not like I train and I pretty 611 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: much fight every single day and there's nothing that can 612 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: compare to an actual fight when you're in the octagon. 613 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying as once my like my once, I 614 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: can do what I do in training inside the octagon. 615 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody can beat me in the world. 616 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 3: Let's talk about some other ones. Uh Hamzade Actually we 617 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: talked about how good he was to give me your 618 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 3: scouting report on him. 619 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: Now he uh man, he's obviously people talk about how 620 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: big he is. I don't think he's that big. He's 621 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: just tall, like Kista is a big, a big guy. 622 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Neo Magnet is a big guy, but they're tall, they're 623 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: not like he's not fucking ten pounds. And for folks 624 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: don't know you've trained with Neil Magnan, you've trained with 625 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: Neil Magni. He's a big guy. He has good striking, obviously, 626 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: he has good wrestling, he has good, good submissions. He's 627 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: very well rounded everywhere. You know, he doesn't have many holes. 628 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: But he showed in that fight which I already knew. 629 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: He's a human being and he can be hit, he 630 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: can be hurt, he can be rocked, he can be 631 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: essentially finished. If that. If that fight would have had 632 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: two more rounds, I I it was super close. If 633 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: they would have said Gilbert burns, I would have been completely 634 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: fine with that. It was a super close fight. I 635 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: think two more rounds would have showed at more. I 636 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: think Gilbert would have kept putting that battle. Yeah, I 637 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: agree with him. I don't think everyone's talking about that's 638 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: actually pretty good point. Think Gilbert could have gotten the 639 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: decision there. No one'm really talking about that. Oh yeah. 640 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: I when that fight was over, we were watching it 641 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know who won. I 642 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: was like, either way, I'm I'm happy with it because 643 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: there was a great fucking fight and they deserved it. 644 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: But I thought Gilbert could have got the decision just 645 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: as easy as well. 646 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: Here's that it let me let me defend Hams out 647 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 3: in the following sense, which was, you know, we both 648 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: agree he kind of fought like a jackass. Yes, if 649 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 3: he fights a more discipline, yeah, part of that. Maybe 650 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: he ruins his own ferocity, but it has to help 651 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: his chances. 652 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he definitely didn't fight the smartest way he could. 653 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: But maybe he just has that in him, like that 654 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: he just wants to go in there and that's he 655 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: just fucking that's what comes. We never seen that, so 656 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: we never we don't know if that's how he's gonna 657 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: fight every single time somebody does crack him, you know, 658 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: because that's got That's how Paul Felder is in the gym. 659 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: Like you hit him with a good shot, he wants 660 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 1: to hit you with like four more shots harder than 661 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: what you just hit him with. Ya, he wants to 662 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: hit your Yeah. He was fighting Edson the first time 663 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: and the UFC was there filming for UFC Countdown, and 664 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: one of my teammates came up to me because I 665 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: was his next round and he said, keep your hands up, bro, 666 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: he's throwing wheel kicks. I'm like, all right, I already 667 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: knew what I was getting myself into, but uh, No, 668 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: Ham's Out's the truth. He's super legit. Our division is 669 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: great and I can't wait to test my What about 670 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: this car respond? I mean, I mean he's raised his game. 671 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: You have to give him that respect when you see him, though. 672 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: Are you focusing on holes that you think you can exploit? 673 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 674 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I personally, I don't think Kamar is gonna be 675 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: around much longer. I think he's going to have like 676 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: one or two more fights, and I think he's gonna 677 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: right off into the sunset. He's done everything already. You know, 678 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: I don't feel like he he's I could like he's 679 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: talking about boxing Canelo, and I feel like once you 680 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: start saying ship like that, like you kind of like 681 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: already thinking about other stuff. But as far as a fighter, 682 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Kamar is great. You know, he has great wrestling. He 683 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: has This is the worst chair in responsible. 684 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: If there's a loose spring on that chair that does 685 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: a little haws your father. 686 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: If you see at the wrong angle, you know it's 687 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: gonna him into the Kamar is But the same thing, 688 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: he's the pound profound best because of how good he is, 689 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: and nobody thought he was going to knock out most 690 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: all the way he did and he he fucking starts him. 691 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just I'm just excited, you know, I'm 692 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: excited to be part of a fucking division that has 693 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 1: all these good guys. But like I said, I think 694 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm I match up well against everybody. What about Colby? 695 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: What do you Because there is the debate about Colby 696 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 3: is obviously he has done some good stuff in terms 697 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 3: of being his his fighting ability, especially winning over him 698 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: at all, but he sort sort of being massive all, 699 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: he hasn't beaten hardly anyone in the top five and 700 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 3: quite some time. 701 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny said that. I never even realized that 702 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: until someone said, I'm like, damn, he doesn't have a 703 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: single win besides Masital over anybody in the top ten. Yeah, 704 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: the same thing with Colby, Like he's good, but I 705 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: remember watching RDA fight him and Kolbe's he's really good 706 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: at being the hammer. But once you kind of put 707 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: like RDA took him down a couple of times, I'm like, damn, 708 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: Like that's it's something nobody has ever tried to do 709 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: to him, even Usman never shot on them in those 710 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: two fights. What if Usman would have shot on him, 711 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: took him down and could have finished him potentially, you know. 712 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, I look at I look at a different 713 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: whole different way, Like RDA took him down very easy 714 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: off the cage, and I'm like, that's something not many 715 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: people are. Not many people are shooting on the wrestler 716 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: are really good at being the wrestler when they're offensive. 717 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: They're not very used to being the defensive guy when 718 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: you start putting the pressure on them. So yeah, all right, 719 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: one more for me. What about shoff cut Rockmanov? Oh 720 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: you love rock Mono. 721 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: He defeated as he's unefeated rock Modo. 722 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: He's not. He's He's amazing. His his striking is great. 723 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: He has throws, wheel kicks, he does all kinds of 724 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: crazy ship, he has submissions, he has He's almost like 725 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: a Hamsap but without the height. You know. I actually 726 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: think he's skill for skill better than hams Up. So 727 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: uh yeah, he's uh he's pretty special. 728 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, What do you think could end up 729 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: being the fight that takes you to the next level? 730 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: And everyone when they're rising in their contender and they're 731 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: unbeaten or unbeaten in the UFC, you know, you end 732 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: up with that fight. Sometimes it's a bigger name on 733 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: the calmdown. But what do you what do you think 734 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: could end up bring that. 735 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: Breakthrough fight for you? I think the fight that makes 736 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: the most sense would be me and Luke at this point, 737 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm nine, he's six. 738 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 4: He's uh you're nine. Yeah, didn't you beat number six 739 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 4: at KISA? 740 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? So why the fuck are you nine? Why don't 741 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 1: you Why don't you ask the UFC? Luke? I don't care. 742 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: Luke was telling me it's not it's it's uh other 743 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: media members. So we need to well you see hash 744 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: that hour. 745 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: See who shows up at these UFC press conferences and 746 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: asked the media questions? 747 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: Okay, you know, why'd you motherfuckers put me at yeah? 748 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: Put them on a spot. 749 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: No. 750 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: I think me and Luke would be a great fight though. 751 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: I think that's what makes the most sense, because, like 752 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: I said, most guys everyone just wants to fight ahead 753 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: of them, which I mean I'm trying to do too, 754 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, but I wanted to fight wonder Boy. He 755 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: kind of pretty much just said fuck that, which I respect. 756 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think he said that to be fair, 757 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: just you know, wonderbout swear he's wrong with him. 758 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: He didn't swear, but he essentially said fun. He said 759 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: fuck that ship. So uh but now me and me 760 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: and Luke, that's that's what I'm hoping for. For For Thompson, 761 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: that's God bless you. Probably you know, it's just just 762 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: like thank you, Sam, flash on, Brady's whole family and nothing. 763 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 3: But the point about like wonder Boy's dude, I mean 764 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: what I mean he Wonder Boys almost a forty year 765 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: old man, and then he should be fighting. 766 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: Basically, I agree whoever he wants, I agree. But at 767 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: that point, if you're going to be like that, I 768 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: don't think you should be in the rankings. I don't 769 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: think you should be holding because what's the realistic what's 770 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: the point of being in the rankings. It's to eventually 771 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: get into the top five and get a title shot. 772 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: If you're holding up spots like that, go off, do 773 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: the Nate diaz Is, do the Nick daz fights, do 774 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: all that shit. But let us younger guys who are 775 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: trying to make our names, make our money, make our 776 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: way up. Let us do what we're trying to do. 777 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: How have you it's surprising, how have you never crossed 778 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: paths with Bala Muhammad? 779 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: We were scheduled to fight in December of twenty twenty, 780 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: and I was coming off of a fight in August 781 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: and I had a fracture in my smaller it's I 782 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: think it's your tibular or fit what I had a little. 783 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: I had to pull out of the fight regardless, But yeah, 784 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: so that's what I thought. We were gonna collide again 785 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 1: after that, but it just hasn't happened yet. 786 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 4: It is surprised you at all. 787 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: I have to say, like, he yes, he has definitely 788 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 3: exceeded my expectations. 789 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: I've been wrong, and I will acknowledge it up front. 790 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: And he's put himself in a good spot and skip 791 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: chest day at all. 792 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 4: He's fucking yoke, bro, He's yoked. 793 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: I remember he was getting ready to fight Liman Good 794 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: and I was like this is going to be a 795 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: fucking beatdown and he and he beat Lineman and I 796 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: was like, holy shit. And then he kept kept winning 797 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: and kept like the Damian Maya fight. And then obviously 798 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: the Leon fight ended didn't end the way anyone wanted 799 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: it to end, but then the way he beat WonderBoy 800 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: and then what he just did to Luk was definitely 801 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: the most impressive so I'm super impressed by him. He 802 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: beat Luk the way he did it was very impressive. 803 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: You're on the rise, but you also know how this 804 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: game works, and I'm sure if somebody called you out, 805 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: you would have no problem getting into a trash talk war. 806 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: But do you feel the push to be like, man, 807 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: I could make my name if I start talking about 808 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: Wospont's kids, if I start, you. 809 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: Know, if I start to start, I'm not saying. 810 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 4: I'm you gotta go commit arson right now. 811 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not doing my car, you know, But do 812 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: you feel that that itch. 813 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 2: Once in a while to like cause that's that's the 814 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 2: currency in this game that can also get you far. 815 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate on all you want, but when it works, 816 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: it works. But I did it with I didn't. I 817 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: nicely called out wonder Boy, and I got fucking burned 818 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: for it by all these people. I'm like, dude, like 819 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm number nine, he's seven. I'm just trying to get 820 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: a fucking fighting all these fans like you're calling out 821 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: Like what you just said, You're calling out an old 822 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: dude who just got beat up by Blah. I'm like, 823 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get the next fucking guy ahead 824 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: of me, like that's all I'm trying to do, and 825 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: that's I'm like, you know what, fuck this. 826 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna you get to a point like Luke 827 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 2: gets to where he's like, fuck my fans, my viewers, 828 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 2: all the people that put money in my pocket. 829 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: I don't care about your opinions at all. Fuck off. 830 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 3: That's yeah, you you you should care what the fans say. 831 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 3: At least you should be somewhat aware of it. 832 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: You just can't. It's not gospel. It's not gospel. I 833 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: also don't want to like I come from a goop, 834 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to be the guy. I don't 835 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: want to sell out of who I am, like who 836 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: my parents know who I am, My wife, my brothers, 837 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: my family know who I am. Like, I'm not gonna 838 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: become someone I'm not, you know, just to make it 839 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: to the top. I'm going to make it to the 840 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: top by winning fights. Whether it takes me a little 841 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: bit longer, it is what it is. 842 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: Okay, When is that moment as we talked about your 843 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 2: sort of background that you were like, oh shit, I 844 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: could do this sport, but that I could potentially be 845 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 2: a future champion because you need that moment early enough 846 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: to give you that next level drive, Like when did 847 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 2: that sort of hit? 848 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: When I was twenty twenty one years old and I 849 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: was training with all pros, I was still an amateur 850 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: and I was doing very well, and They're like, listen, 851 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: stay dedicated, keep doing what you're doing, and you can 852 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: fucking be a champion. And I've been with the same 853 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: Daniel Gracie's been my coach for the last ten years. 854 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: I've been with the same coaches for I've never left 855 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: Philadelphia and that's something I pride myself on. I could 856 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: go to any one of these super gyms and just say, 857 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: fuck my city, fuck my fuck my little team that 858 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: I have, But uh, they got me where I am. 859 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm loyal to them, you know. And I feel like 860 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: we have a good thing going in Philly, and I 861 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: feel like it's just going to get bigger and bigger, 862 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: and I'm going to be the first UFC champion from 863 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: Philly fighting out of Philadelphia. 864 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 4: When did you know that you were a good athlete 865 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 4: before fighting? 866 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: Ah? 867 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: When at first, well it really when I first started lifting, 868 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'm pretty strong, and then 869 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: I fell in love with like if I didn't fight, 870 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: I'd be one hundred percent of powerlifter. Like I blew 871 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: out my back doing straight bar deadlifts, like almost pulling 872 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: six hundred pounds when I was like twenty two years old. 873 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: Uh you see your amaniac. 874 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: Okay, well you know, Mike, my therapist tells me, Luke, 875 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 2: I'm addicted to the chaos of like Okay, yeah, said, yeah, 876 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: this guy's addicted to I'm trying to figure it out. 877 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 2: It's not just your like. He's not a sayist suffering. Yeah, 878 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 2: he likes Uh, well, the challenge or a competitor. 879 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: I've switched over to trap bart deadlifts, by the way, 880 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: so I'm still pulling in the fives, but uh only 881 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: on the trap. 882 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 5: Okay. 883 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 2: A real man too or false if needed, can wear 884 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,479 Speaker 2: a damn para gloves lift weights. 885 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. Listen, Kellous, just be THEMN brother. 886 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: You do not wear gloves. You do not wear gloves 887 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: when you lift weights. I'm not saying I don't care 888 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: seventeen but I did. I don't care what you do 889 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: with your hands. You do not wear those myths when 890 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: you're lifting weights. 891 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: See Brian, if you like to discount me, I'm not 892 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 3: Sean Brady. I'll never be that kind of thing. But 893 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 3: I've been around a lot of them my whole fucking life. Bro, 894 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 3: I've seen what that economy. 895 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: Real motherfuckers lift with their bare hands. That's right, that period, 896 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: end of story. 897 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: Jorge Pisado of the Yankees said he used to piss 898 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 2: on his hands in the off season to get it, 899 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 2: you know, hard, and so we can grip that bat more. 900 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: Let's see how man you are. I'm not pissing on 901 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: my hands. Yeah, I'm not urinating on my hand. 902 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 4: I'll urinate on your hands or your face. 903 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm r Kelly in this, in this, in 904 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: this equation, all right, no more. 905 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 3: That's so getting back to the Philly thing for just 906 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 3: a second, the Philly boxing side of things. 907 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: The interesting part about it is when I was your age, so. 908 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,720 Speaker 3: Twenty nine, that must have been what was that two thousand, 909 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 3: I was twenty nine, the MMA and the boxing worlds 910 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 3: were not very mixed at all. 911 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: And now we'll get a little bit. 912 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 3: It's a case where we are so one of the guy, 913 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 3: the guys who fights on showtime is Jaron Ennis, who 914 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 3: is I've been saying this for a while you watch 915 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 3: him compete. He has just extraordinary talent. You've known him 916 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 3: for some time. How did you end up meeting jn Ennis? 917 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: So I was at that Jim Sember five mma and 918 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: the owner, Julio Orzario knew Bozy, which is his father, 919 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: and he came in. He started teaching boxing classes and 920 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: Boots was coming in and it had to be how 921 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: old was he at this point? Boot I was like, 922 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: I was a teenager, so Boots was maybe twelve. Wow, 923 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: because I'm twenty nine, he's twenty four, twenty five, so 924 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 1: he's four years younger than me, So he was maybe 925 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: twelve years old, and he was like already getting into 926 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: the stage of he was fighting an amateur and like 927 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: he had a great amateur record. And then over the 928 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: years he used to hold pads for me all the time, 929 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: and then he started fighting professionally and was just rallying 930 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: so he didn't have the time to do it. But 931 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: he Everyone always said that he's he's a special talent 932 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: because his brothers were both good. His dad was a boxer. 933 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: But all that knowledge is just went down to him 934 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: and he has the hard work, the dedication, like all 935 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: he does is boss. It looks like a virtuoso. It 936 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: looks like he's creating ideas on the fly. You know. Yeah, 937 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: he he fucking loves it and he's I think he's 938 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: going to be like the next big thing for sure. 939 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 4: He's got a style. 940 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 3: He's almost like a maybe this isn't right, Brian, if 941 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 3: it's not telling me I'm wrong. He's almost a somewhat 942 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 3: flashier Bud Crawford A little. 943 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like that. 944 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 2: You know this he's the type of fighter. And I've 945 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 2: heard it said where when they go, hey, Roy Jones, 946 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 2: does anybody out there look like Roy Jones these days? 947 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 2: And you know he would mention a Boots because these 948 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 2: guys just feel like they can jump through the screen 949 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 2: with with the with the ability to do what seems 950 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 2: like a simple punch, but they make it extraordinary. 951 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: They leap in the timing, the angles man. Yeah he's legit. 952 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 2: And you know Danny swift Gara still showing still holding 953 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 2: the uh that that strong ex champion Philly. 954 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: When you look at Boots and it's just effortless, like 955 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: he goes from orthodox his health Paul and he's as 956 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: good boat stances and uh he's bad for one forty 957 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: seven and these dudes don't want to smoke, but somebody's 958 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to get it from him. What's his reputation 959 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: in Philly that he's just the best thing that's ever 960 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: came out of Philly? Is that right? Yeah? 961 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, even better than Rocky, even better than 962 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 3: cool Boy Steph. 963 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: All right, come on, cool boy Steph trains to the 964 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: gym too with him? 965 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 4: So going on. Have you ever heard Bill Burr's rant 966 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 4: on Philly. 967 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hilarious, the whole bit about Joe Lewis statue 968 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 3: with Joe Lewis, that's maybe the best dagger, wasn't he 969 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 3: in Philly or din? 970 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 4: Yes, he was, Well, it was a comedy festival. 971 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: It wasn't just him and they're like boon them or 972 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 1: some this is my best recollection. 973 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 3: But it was the Opie and Anthony tour where they 974 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 3: would tour and Patris O'Neil was part of it, Jim 975 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 3: Norton was part of it. And I guess something had 976 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 3: gone wrong during the set in Philly and they were 977 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 3: booming him because you know, yeah, you'll do that's what 978 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 3: we do. And he was like, you know what, let 979 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 3: me turn the tables on you. 980 00:41:59,520 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: Bitches. 981 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 3: Do people do people in Philly talk about the Bill 982 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 3: Burr roast. It's it's quite famous. 983 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious. People talk about it, but like 984 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: we think it's fucking hilarious. I thought I watched it 985 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: and I literally pissed my pants. Watch it's fucking so 986 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: are you aware of this? We seen. Yes, it's a 987 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: good watch. It's a good watch, you know. 988 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 2: Of course, Philly known for other famous comedians to like 989 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 2: Bill Cosbys, to want you back off anyway. Jesus lord, 990 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 2: how up to this point do you feel you've navigated 991 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 2: that other side, the business side of the negotiations, the 992 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 2: you know, public branding, any kind of leverage you can get. 993 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: How you know this is a fertile time with all 994 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 2: the fighter pay talk, of course, But do you feel 995 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 2: like you've gotten learned quickly to where you need to 996 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: be to navigate that side of it too? 997 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: No, because I feel like that also, I mean I 998 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: could definitely be doing better than I am, because that 999 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: also falls into the uh, you there's only so many 1000 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: hours in a day. You can only focus on so 1001 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: many things that matter. And to me what matters is 1002 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: my actual skills, my nutrition and my sleep the ship 1003 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: that actually is gonna me fight and uh keep me 1004 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: healthy long enough so I can fight until I'm as 1005 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: long as I want to do it. Uh. When you 1006 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: get on social media and you're sitting there for hours 1007 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: trying to create content and do all these things like 1008 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: that's taking away from being an actual fighter. And I'm 1009 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: an actual fighter and that's what I'm focused on. Okay, Okay, 1010 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: you're Irish, Yes, my I have grandparents from from Ireland. Yes, 1011 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: but I am I'm I'm an American. I'm American. Phil. 1012 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, is there Do you have a dream to headline 1013 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 4: in Philly? 1014 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what I have. Fighters look at the headline, well, 1015 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo is what I what I would love to do. 1016 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: But I don't know when the fuck they're coming back 1017 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: to Philly. When is the last serious question? When is 1018 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: the last big fight in Philly? Last USC was twenty nineteen. 1019 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: It was Eds and Borbosa versus Justin Gache. That's right. 1020 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 4: And on the boxing side, Uh, it's been a while. 1021 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:57,439 Speaker 1: Why Why is that mission mission? They have a strict 1022 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: commissions part of it. 1023 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,439 Speaker 2: But you know, I I don't think the tax laws 1024 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: are laxed enough to try to drop people in either 1025 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 2: you know. 1026 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Commission I've heard they've given like the UFC 1027 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: problems and shit like that. So they're uh, they're not 1028 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: notoriously tough, box not big on coming back. Yeah, I 1029 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: guess so. Still it would be cool, right too. Yeah, 1030 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: like me, like Paul always said, he would have come 1031 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,479 Speaker 1: out of retirement to fight at well as farther really Yeah, 1032 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,760 Speaker 1: so like me, Paul Felder, Pats Abattini, the Dolkers, Brollers 1033 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: like we would fucking run house on that ship. Like 1034 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: I just don't know. You got Jersey Fighters, you got Frankieger, 1035 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: like we have so many guys. Yeah. 1036 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 2: How do you think Felder's transitioned to the mic? Obviously 1037 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 2: we all know he's good. I think do you think 1038 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 2: he's climbing like becoming literally one of the best. 1039 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: I think I think it's one of the best because, 1040 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: like I said, like I always say about Luke, uh, 1041 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 1: but I listen to him. He knows what he's talking about, 1042 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: and he can break stuff down, and people like me 1043 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: who actually train and fight, like like I can relate 1044 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: to him. And Paul is the same way. But he 1045 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: also relates to the casual fans and he breaks it 1046 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: down in such a way where the casual fan can 1047 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: understand it too. I think he's doing great. I'd say 1048 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: what Paul. 1049 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 3: Does for me is a lot of times I see 1050 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 3: the commentators talking a lot about narrative, and I'm not 1051 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 3: saying that's that's not correct, like what's happening in the 1052 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 3: larger perspective things. He's the guy who make sure they 1053 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 3: don't miss the real important detail about what is actually 1054 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,959 Speaker 3: driving the action. 1055 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, digging like an underhook and like there's like certain 1056 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: like he breaks down the details. 1057 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 4: Yes, in a way that he doesn't go overly. Look, 1058 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 4: he definitely makes sure that we are we're not just talking. 1059 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 3: Sometimes they'll just start talking about, hey man, y'all remember 1060 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 3: when we had that that that great dinner at the 1061 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 3: Silver Diner. 1062 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 4: It's like, you see, what the fuck are we doing? 1063 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1064 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 3: Fled is the one who's like, oh, right, so you 1065 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 3: know that that will kick landing because he moved into it. 1066 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, yes, yes, yeah, he brings his back 1067 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: and and he's doing all the triathlon shit right now too. 1068 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: So he's a he's a madman. 1069 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 3: When you found out he was an actor, like like 1070 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 3: a stage actor, were you like dumb founded. 1071 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we uh we found some pictures of him with 1072 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: like some makeup on his face and we were fucking dying, 1073 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: like this was like ten years ago. I was like twenty, 1074 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: We're like, what the fuck is this? I think some 1075 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: of them came out on Twitter, like people were trying 1076 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 1: to roast him about it, but he didn't give a ship. 1077 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: But uh, I think that's exactly what helped him transition 1078 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 1: into his role. Is I guess that that acting because 1079 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: doing it behind the camera, like it's hard. You know 1080 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: that it's hard for everybody, and it's definitely not in Paula. 1081 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 2: Paul does a good job, just like go ahead, no, no, 1082 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 2: you first, I got I got half a steak in 1083 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 2: this show. Ad the cage walk. That's gotta be a 1084 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 2: like otherworldly surreal experience. You know, your song playing, they're 1085 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 2: screaming your name? 1086 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: Is that Is that okay? All right? 1087 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 2: Is that like a ship your pants moment? Or is 1088 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 2: that like I'm ready to run through the wall moment? 1089 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 2: Because and I don't say that because you're scared, but 1090 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 2: like you're you're human. Everybody's gonna have to like, you know, 1091 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 2: push away. 1092 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: It's a it's a little bit of both, honestly, but 1093 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: when once I like, for me, the scariest part is 1094 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: that walk. But as soon as I get in the cage, 1095 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, like this is just this is 1096 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: what I do. You know, It's just it feels it 1097 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: feels natural, like I do this all the time, and 1098 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: I just got to believe in myself and get the 1099 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: get the job done. Yeah. 1100 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 3: Sometimes we talk to the athletes and they have the 1101 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 3: ship their pants moment. But dude, there's a few of them. Man, 1102 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah they love it. 1103 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: That's yeah. 1104 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they not more than tolerating it. 1105 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: They love it. Yeah. 1106 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: Our producer Menisch would really like to know if you're 1107 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: talking about dreams and Nightmares by meek Mill, No it is. 1108 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: It's uh DJ Calla and Meek Mill. They don't love 1109 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: They don't love you no more so. I did it 1110 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: my pro debut, and uh I never changed it because 1111 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: I'm like super superstitious. Is that. Yeah, that's the only thing. 1112 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: I'll never change my song. Everything else, I don't give 1113 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 1: a shit about fifteen pro fights, fifteen times that song 1114 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: was played every single time. 1115 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 4: Change No, I like me. 1116 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: He's done some stuff with Wallet out of d C. Yes, yes, 1117 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: stuff yes, yeah he has done. 1118 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,919 Speaker 4: Thank you. I don't like mail. 1119 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, some walle for sure. Do you play 1120 00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: the basketball about any chance? Listen? 1121 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 4: Listen, you do listen to MK a little bit. 1122 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy. 1123 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 3: Most of the time we bring fighters in here and 1124 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 3: they're like, I'm sorry, I don't know who you are, 1125 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 3: like Glover to share At some point was like we 1126 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 3: had we had Glover to share it here. He remembered 1127 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 3: my face, my face. 1128 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: But that's some point. I even was like, man, I live, 1129 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, not too far from your grow up from 1130 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: where you live. It's just like okay, cool, yeah, all right, alright, 1131 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: all right, what's the next topic here? 1132 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 2: But we know you're a big MK guy, so I 1133 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 2: don't think you're going to show up at the next 1134 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 2: UFC press conference wearing a drug rug. 1135 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 4: But we did let me call room service to get. 1136 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 2: That staff there did outfit you with a with a bag, 1137 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 2: a drug rug and some other MK. 1138 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: Merch that you can. I've heard about the drug rug 1139 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: through you guys, so feel free to pretty pretty legend 1140 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: deposited in the open this up. 1141 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 2: Now. 1142 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: You know what, I think you guys should be drug 1143 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: rug brothers. How about that? 1144 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 2: I think you should just see because here's the thing 1145 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 2: I need to ask you this about where you come from, Sean, 1146 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 2: Because where I come from, the heroes were this, okay, 1147 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 2: the the people, the guys that people looked up to, 1148 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 2: the guys that people wanted. 1149 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: To be their hoodie. 1150 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 5: There it is really looking for there we go, Oh, 1151 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 5: he's got a little green on it. So do why 1152 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 5: we're gonna be like the you got more like ship brown? Yeah, 1153 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 5: I do have a little ship stay in color. But 1154 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 5: you know, Jesus, look at it. 1155 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 4: Look at this. 1156 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 2: You know now you can sit in row eight on 1157 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,479 Speaker 2: delta anywhere that you know what I'm saying. 1158 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I know you're married, But if you weren't, 1159 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 3: you I mean, what a sex machine this guy would be. 1160 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 1: Look at this guy. 1161 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 2: Anniversary yesterday, by the way, same wedding anniversary as I have. 1162 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if your wife thinks this increases the the testosterone. 1163 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 3: Look, you know the man that seems to be his problem, 1164 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 3: see real testosterone deficiently. 1165 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, my test just dropped probably four 1166 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 1: hundred points. I disagree. But one more thing, Sean. 1167 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 2: You know they don't have a great food spread here 1168 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 2: for you already saw, but they personally filled me up 1169 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 2: with Brazilians. You want to know why, because we got 1170 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 2: a low t staff here, Like there's no question, like 1171 00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 2: look at them. 1172 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: But but they find out that this raises your tea. 1173 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: It's true. 1174 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 2: I think one guy gotta grow pregnant immediately after immediately 1175 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: after eating the nuts. 1176 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 3: All right, before we before we wrap up here, you're 1177 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 3: gonna break my heart and tell me you don't know 1178 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 3: who Jedi my tricks are. 1179 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 1: I do, okay, not not huge into them, Biden, who 1180 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: they are? Yeah, you're fucking yeah, what are you doing 1181 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 1: to me? Sean? 1182 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 3: It's like the one Well, there's two redeeming things about Philly, 1183 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 3: you and fucking Jedi mind tricks. 1184 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna have to bro alright, I'm gonna 1185 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: get my Jedi mind tricks for sure, Sean. What is 1186 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: the goal for twenty twenty two? Man? 1187 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 3: Like, well, I know you don't have a fight, but 1188 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 3: when do you? I mean, I guess you don't really know, 1189 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,399 Speaker 3: but yeah, you're ready to fight? Basically, Yeah, I'm ready. 1190 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 3: I'm ready to fight. We were looking like July timeframe, 1191 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 3: so it still looks good. That's what we're hoping for 1192 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 3: I want to be in the top five by the 1193 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 3: end of the year and knocking on that door for 1194 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 3: number one contender by the end of the year. 1195 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 1: That's that's that's my goal. 1196 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 3: So when Glover was here, we told him that if 1197 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 3: he won his fight, he had to come back here 1198 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 3: and drink with us, which he said he would do. Okay, now, 1199 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 3: you don't have much real estate left, but if you 1200 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 3: win your next fight, if it's Luka or whoever ends 1201 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 3: up being, I might make my way to Philly. 1202 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 4: I might get some ink with you and we'll talk 1203 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 4: about it. 1204 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: How's that. Listen, if you want to shut up a 1205 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: tattoo for me and I'll get I'll set up the tattoo. 1206 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: You come up, we will showtime, will pay my boy 1207 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: matt lambda on tattoo inks me. Yeah, we'll drink and 1208 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 1: we'll get tattooed. Yeah, and we'll film it. 1209 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 4: And BC would you would you get tattooed? 1210 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: What will they allow me to put in my body 1211 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: before the tattoo? 1212 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 4: You can? 1213 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: You can do it. 1214 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 4: You wants to drink, but you can definitely get high. 1215 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: I know the tattooers. You can drink. Yeah, okay, if 1216 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: we're er private studio we can look. 1217 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 2: You know, is Sean Brady only hanging out with us 1218 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,879 Speaker 2: because we have cameras? That's a question. 1219 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: But if we get to that point, if we get 1220 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: to that and obviously because of the drug rugs, I'll 1221 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: do it. I'll man up, all right, I'll be there. 1222 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 2: You know, I once said two hundred and fifty thousand subscribers, 1223 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 2: and I'll get that ink. 1224 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 1: How about how about hanging. 1225 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 4: Out with Luke? 1226 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm getting it. 1227 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: About hanging out with this unbeaten well, all right, that'll 1228 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 2: we don't need them Brazilian nuts. 1229 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 1: I's already raised my tea. 1230 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Sean, thank you for making it for here. 1231 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,320 Speaker 3: For surely, I can't wait to see what happens next. Campbell, 1232 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 3: Luke Thomas, C M L T S B m K. 1233 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 3: This has been room Let's drug rugs for Life.