1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: It's a podcast called twenty five whistle Stocking Ports and 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: they all wear a whist so, yeah, it's too bad, 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: But what did you expect. It's a podcast called twenty 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: five Whistles, Twine. 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Wheels, Helload welc on the show, presenter by DraftKings, DraftKings 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: sports book and official sports betting partner of the NBA. 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Download the DraftKings app used the code Bobby Sports get 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: in on the action. We got two great interviews. The 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: first one we'll talk inn ils. The second one we'll 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: talk baseball and basketball. But I want to start with 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: Tiger Woods, which, by the way, we do this show 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: in the studio. We do the radio show, but Eddie's 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: still working in here, and Eddie joins us later as well, accidentally. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: Because I'm in and out. 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, but I guess before I get 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: the Tiger, I want to ask you a question because 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: I got a DM from somebody and I want to 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: know how. 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 4: You feel about it. 20 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I heard on twenty five Whistles today that 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: you're going, of course, is closed. My club is closed 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: because they're like literally tearing the course up building a 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: new one. I'm the food and beverage director and executive chef. 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: At should I say where it? 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: Does it matter? Nashville? 26 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: I'll just said Nashville Golf and Athletic Club. We are 27 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: down the road and we'd love to have you and 28 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: Eddie out for golf and lunch. I will pull some 29 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: strings to get y'all out. It would be an honor 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: for me. Been listening to you guys as I started 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: my my chef career in Vegas back in twenty ten. 32 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: Hit me up for a tea time. 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: And then she says there are some other I say other, 34 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: there are actual famous people that play there too. Uh, 35 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: come on out coming to the clubhouse. I want to 36 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: make you and Eddie some good grub. Let's go, dang dude, 37 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: let's do it. 38 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 5: Well. 39 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: The question is do we I always am weird about 40 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: calling people and taking them up on stuff. 41 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 6: Sure, so am I. But it's golf though. I mean 42 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 6: I think I'm more like that with a lot of things. 43 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 6: But when it comes to golf, absolutely, I'm in food. 44 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's food, right, But again, there's a chef, and 45 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: then do we know that they could get us? Is 46 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: this something that you would like to be a I 47 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: don't like telling people. Yes, i'd like your free stuff. 48 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: I have real issues with that, just from obviously childhood trauma. 49 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: But if you think this is something we should pursue 50 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 2: and it won't be awkward, is that something you want 51 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: to do? 52 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 6: You know what, I've never played that course, I've never eaten. 53 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 6: That's a factor. Hey, I've never eaten at that restaurant. 54 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 6: I would love to see what it's all about over there. 55 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: What do you think? 56 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 4: Well, then I think I will send you. 57 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: Oh you want me to do the talking? 58 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: I'm not doing the talking. 59 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: Yes, can I get one of my kids to do 60 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: the talking? 61 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: I would just go ooh, thank you, but I don't 62 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: want to. I want to bother you put you out? 63 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: Oh okay, that. 64 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: Would be my and I just wouldn't. I did respond, 65 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: So I have the message here, and so I will 66 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: send it to you and have the number and everything. 67 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 6: Wait, so you've already responded. What did you say? Did 68 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 6: you say like I said, to think about it? 69 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I said, if I know, Eddie will want to 70 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: take you up on that, And you do know? And 71 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: then she said, I left my cell on the twenty 72 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: five whistles message board, and I said, there's a message 73 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: board wait, where is that? She said, I message to 74 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: twenty five whistles page. I was trying to catch your attention. 75 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: Left it there, but I have her number here. Do 76 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: you want to call. 77 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: Her like me personally? 78 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 7: Not right? 79 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 80 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 4: No, yes, you of course you. 81 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: I mean, why am I doing this? 82 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: She messaged you yes, but she said to you as well, 83 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 2: and she went hit twenty five whistles and I don't 84 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: feel comfortable doing it. 85 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: Should we go middle school and do it three way? 86 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: Nope? 87 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: Well okay, no, no. 88 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no no, Kevin, don't understand now to stop. No no, no, 89 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 6: you're too young to know what that means. No, it's 90 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 6: not what you think it means. It means you just 91 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 6: get on the phone like three of us and talk. 92 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: I know, okay, I know you have to go. 93 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: Uh huh? So should we do that? 94 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 7: No? 95 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: I have no, I will feel awkward. You can be 96 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: the point person if you feel like we should go. 97 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: If not, I'm cool not going. I just feel like 98 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: I'm putting somebody out. Dude, free golf, free lunch. We 99 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: have to take her up on this. I just sent 100 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: you the number. Okay, go call her now, right now 101 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: if you want to. 102 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 6: I'm gonna do any I don't want to do. I'm 103 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 6: like you, I don't like doing this stuff at all. 104 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 6: Do I like free golf? Absolutely? Do I like doing 105 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 6: all that set up stuff? 106 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 5: No? 107 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: I hate it. 108 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: Check it out school. I'll get someone else to do it. 109 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: But it's not about somebody else. I think either you 110 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: or I should do it or we shouldn't do it. 111 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: And I don't want to do it. 112 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, oh no, dude, it's free golf and it's one 113 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 8: phone call. 114 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: Then you do it, Kevin, I didn't get invited, and 115 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: I'm a whimp. I just feel weird. But I would 116 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: do it. If you like you're running it, I'll be 117 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: happy to do it. But I would not make the 118 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: call because I don't want to put anybody out. 119 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: Yeah I know, I know. 120 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: And also it's like, hey, we like to come. Can 121 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: we get a tea time? Well, we can only play it. 122 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: We only have certain amounts times we can play. 123 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: Right, all right, let me let me call her up, feel. 124 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 6: It out and see how it goes, okay, let us know, okay, 125 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 6: all right, talking about golf. 126 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: I wanted to start with this earlier today. This was 127 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: this was not today, but Tiger wrote this as a statement. 128 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: Earlier today, Tiger Woods underwent a sub taller fusion procedure 129 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: to address this post traumatic arthritis from his previous talis fracture. 130 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: A lot of words, I don't know what they mean. 131 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: I figure they're all bones and parts of foot. 132 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 9: Hello is something? Rather. 133 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: It was performed by doctor Martin O'Malley at HSS Sports 134 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: Medicine Institute in New York City. He has determined the 135 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: surgery to be successful. Tiger is currently recovering it looks 136 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: forward to beginning his rehabilitation. So I just wanted to 137 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: start with I'm now starting to feel like Tiger won't 138 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: set the record and beat Jack Nicholas. I always felt 139 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: like he had it in him. I always felt like 140 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: Tiger could scrape one or two together. I mean, Phil 141 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: has won in his fifties. You know, there are guys 142 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: who every once in a while, an old timer comes 143 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: and sneaks to one of the majors. If the course 144 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: plays just right, they hit just right, the conditions are good. 145 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: I always felt like Tiger could kind of grind out 146 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: two or three. I don't feel that way anymore though, 147 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: because of all of the physical especially from the. 148 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 8: Car wreck that I think that was what did it. 149 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 8: He's not gonna be the same, won't be the same. 150 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 8: It's one thing after another once a year. It almost 151 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 8: seems like he's recovering from this surgery from this. 152 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: Makes me sad, very makes me sad because Tiger was 153 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: is I think the best golfer of all time m hm. 154 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: And we're not gonna get to see Hi breaking record. 155 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: He probably would have easily broken. Well, he was getting 156 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: on with a lot. Yeah, he had some other deals 157 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: going that caused a bunch of this too. Yeah, you know, 158 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: he's doing with much chicks. But so much has happened 159 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: since then, you almost forget about. That's what the first 160 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: thing was. Yeah, the first thing we heard about it 161 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: was his wife comes out and busts the back glass 162 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: him trying to drive away in the SEV Yeah, and 163 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: we're like, wait, what can you forget that? Like six 164 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: months of media was all about Yeah. I used to 165 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: work at Perkins and ibang Tyler or Tiger Yeah, and 166 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: one after an Athletes when we were coming out like 167 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: crazy and in a weird the story that came out 168 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: recently for the woman that's suing him, that she's doing 169 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: it for a whole crazy amount of money. But it 170 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: was she wouldn't leave his house. 171 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: This is what we heard. 172 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 10: We heard that. 173 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: She wouldn't leave his house. So he told her they 174 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 4: were going on vacation. 175 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: So the car took her to the airport and this 176 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 2: just dropped off and they locked all the doors so 177 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: she couldn't get back in. 178 00:06:58,960 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 4: That's hardcore. 179 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: That's a hardcore because if she wouldn't leave, that's that's 180 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: pretty strategic. And I can't imagine I wouldn't want to 181 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: leave if I had the lifestyle. And I remember seeing 182 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: her with's Tiger though when they were together. She was 183 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: like at tournaments with them, should be walking around on 184 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: the courses, yeaeah, But apparently she she was everywhere with them. 185 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 9: You never know what's going on behind the doors, off 186 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 9: the course. 187 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: They had to go, Hey, Tiger really wants to take 188 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: you on a vacation, So get in the car. Get 189 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: all your bags. No, get all your stuff. But I 190 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: don't need all my stuff. I'm just going for two weeks. Now, 191 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: I go ahead and get it all everything. Yeah, get 192 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: everything everything. Who knows how long you'll be in the 193 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: standbull or wherever they're going. 194 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, got your bed too, and like. 195 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: They're taking her to the airport. But I don't think 196 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: they took well, this way is not the way to 197 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: the airport. 198 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: No, it's another way. 199 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: You know. That's another one, the private one. Obviously you're 200 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: going to a different terminology. He's a Tiger's own hanger. 201 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: Come on, no, but I've been to that hanger. 202 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 7: It's a new one. 203 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: It's a new one. 204 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 9: It's Tiger. 205 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: And then lock all the doors in case she comes back. 206 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 7: That's awesome. 207 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: In case she comes back, though, that's the crazy thing. Again, 208 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: this we just heard the story. It's not They just 209 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: got her out of there and said, okay, you're not 210 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: allowed to come back or we will presh charges or trespassing. 211 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: They got her out of there and then physically lock 212 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: the doors. I need to see like a ring camera 213 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: of this. If she came back. Can she's dressed like 214 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: a pizza man turned to trick her way back in dominos? 215 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 9: We didn't order to pet the Yes you did. 216 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: I'm sad because I did feel like Tiger could do it. 217 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: I think we got to watch the greatest golfer of 218 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: all time in our generation. We have a few athletes 219 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: that are that are that that are him, that are her. 220 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: You can put him on a hand. You got Jordan, 221 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: although you didn't get to watch Jordan that much, did you? 222 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 7: Yeah? 223 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 9: No, I didn't so upset about that. 224 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 4: I was young. 225 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: I did so I got to watch Jordan, got to 226 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: watch Tiger, got to watch Serena. 227 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: Who else would you put in that? 228 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 7: Come on? 229 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: You know who we're missing Tom Brady obviously, yes. 230 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 9: I got to watch him, yeah a lot. Yeah, but who. 231 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: Then there's borderline, Like borderline are people like Lebron, Kobe 232 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: Shack and those three aren't even the same. But I 233 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: mean probably Lebron and Kobe would be there, Lebron more 234 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: than Kobe. I'm gonna put Lebron in that as my fifth. 235 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: If we're doing athletes that are generational that change the 236 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: way of sport is played, I think you have to 237 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: put those five from our sports. I don't know anything 238 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: about hockey. 239 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 9: Steph's right there too, just because he changed the game. 240 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: I don't think Steph, though, is a pop culture phenomenon 241 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: outside of being big in sports. He's doing something, He's 242 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: out there a little bit, but I don't think he's 243 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: that to the level of a Lebron who changed Lebron 244 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: might have been the first high school player that were 245 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 2: showing his games on ESPN. Yeah, he was on the 246 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: front Sports Illustrated as a high school kid. So as 247 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: of now, I'm gonna sit with that because in just 248 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: second we're gonna get to the title. 249 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 7: Tittle. 250 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: But let's see, I'm gonna go Lebron Jordan basketball, football, 251 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: Tom Brady. I think like a Peyton Manning and a 252 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: Shack and Kobe are like the same. 253 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: They're just right there close, but they ain't exactly that. 254 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: What puts Tom Brady there is the list of championship 255 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: years he has, right, Yeah, so Lebron, Tom Brady, Serena Williams. Obviously, 256 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's baseball wise, I know I'm trying to think 257 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: of like Mike trouton No, I mean, as great as 258 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: he is, I know that nobody really does in baseball. 259 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 8: He plays for the Angels, they don't win. He's just 260 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 8: not relevant when it really matters. And then you got 261 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 8: to think maybe Geter. 262 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: I guess, big winner, but I don't know that is 263 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: that like change the game. But those that's who we're 264 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: settling with today. Those five already forgot him. So Lebron, 265 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: let's do basketball first, so just so I can remember 266 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: Lebron and Jordan and basketball in football, Tom Brady in tennis, 267 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: Serena Williams. 268 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 9: Three. 269 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: There are a lot of tennis guys though that are 270 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: pretty equal ish. But I'm that are great, the greatest ever, 271 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: but they've all been like trading places. Djokovic probably now 272 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: Federer at all? 273 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? 274 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 4: Is that is this four? 275 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: I just do four? 276 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 4: I forget one. 277 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: Kobe, Well, somebody got liminated about that's that jobs baby? 278 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: About soccer, I don't enough about it. I can only 279 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: do the sports that I know. About David Beckham, I 280 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: don't think no. I think he was a really good 281 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: looking guy and he's a really good player on the 282 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: biggest team in close your icon though, but later though Gretzky. 283 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: Gretzky probably in hockey, but I don't know. If about soccer, Mike, 284 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: I would say more than Beckham would be if I 285 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: were just guessing, like a Ronaldo or a Messy. But 286 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: I don't have the context to know that next level 287 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: because I don't watch enough. Anyway, enough about that, it's 288 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: time for the tittle Tattle. 289 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 4: Time to put his name ever the tittle Tattle. 290 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 8: In honor of Draymond Green stomping this week? Who is 291 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 8: your favorite sports villain of all time? 292 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: By the way, Draymond Green got screwed. That should have 293 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: just been a flagrant. His folk was held. We've seen 294 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: it a thousand times. His history got him. He got 295 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: bit by the history bug. Justice for Draymond Green. Also 296 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: like Draymond Green, so that's probably why. But man, it 297 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 2: did look brutal, did it right? Like when it happened, 298 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 2: it looked brutal. Look like he was step on his heart. 299 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: He's trying to stomp his heart out. Oh yeah, but 300 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: then you see his foot was grad Listen. Did he 301 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: probably do it? Yes, yes, he went harder than he 302 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: had to. Absolutely, But he didn't just see him on 303 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: the ground and go stomp on his chest. That's all 304 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: I want to say. He didn't ask me that question, 305 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: but I feel like I need to say that clarification. Yes, 306 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: So best sports villains of all time? Number one to 307 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: me is the Houston Astros. Those cheating suckers beaten on 308 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: trash cans. They cheated, they cheated, and then they didn't 309 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: even have to serve the consequences. They didn't even have 310 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: to do jail time because COVID hit and they got 311 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: to play the empty stadiums when people weren' booing him 312 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: the whole time. 313 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: The Astros hate him, I still hold it agains him. 314 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: It's not in the same team. What were you gonna say. 315 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 9: I was gonna say. 316 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 8: It didn't even help that they won the World Series 317 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 8: last year without all that. 318 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: Not the same team. There are a couple of players, 319 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: but the Astros. To me, during that time, I hated him. 320 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: I still feel not positive about him, but I also 321 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: realized it's not the same. But yeah, the Astros, for me, 322 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: that's a bad one. Next up, I'd put Duke Duke basketball, 323 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: and I'm going organizations here first. Before I get to 324 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: a few players. Here's why people don't like Duke one. 325 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: We hate him because we ain't him. 326 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: They won. They won, They freaking won, and they're. 327 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: Rich school, and they presented themselves mostly they always had 328 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 2: like a guy that you didn't like. They always had 329 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: like a bad guy on the bad guy team, so 330 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: you already had a reason not to like him. 331 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 4: They felt a little duck up. 332 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: You knew they were kind of rich and they won 333 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: and all that didn't But then when you would add 334 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: somebody like Grayson Allen. Yeah, it's like you just want 335 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: to plutch him in the face. And if he played 336 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: for you loved and played against you hated him. So 337 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 2: Duke pops on my list at number two. When it 338 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: comes to villains, a Rod hate him. There just doesn't 339 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: seem to be a quality about him as a person 340 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: that you like. And he got busted for the for 341 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: the juice. He did get busted, right, Yeah, okay, making 342 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: sure I knew, we knew he needed a Rod big 343 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: villain to o ended up being a pretty big, big 344 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: villain for a while. 345 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 4: He was a hero too. 346 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: For a while. 347 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 9: I actually liked him. 348 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 4: You lived long enough as a hero. Eventually he'll be 349 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 4: a villain. 350 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather, anybody that takes the money and puts it 351 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: out It is like, this is my million dollars in 352 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: a suitcase, look at it on Instagram. They just become 353 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: someone that doesn't like because and they know it and 354 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: they're like they're encouraging it to happen. But I would 355 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: say those are the big villains when that comes to mind, 356 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: what about you? 357 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 8: Mine would be that I like though kind of flipping 358 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 8: this would be a Randy Moss. 359 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 9: He comes to mind. 360 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Randy Moss. He pulled his pants down, 361 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god, but they weren't real pants, they were airpants. Yeah, 362 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: and he was always like he moved everybody with air exactly. Yes, 363 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: and he was fun to watch. 364 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Randy Moss is awesome. 365 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 9: Alan Iverson Yeah I. 366 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: Liked a I too. Yeah, cool, cool. 367 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 8: He rubbed people the wrong way a little bit. And 368 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 8: then this one you're really not gonna like. But Brooks Koepka. 369 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 8: I like Brooks Kepka. Yeah, he's a villain to me, 370 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 8: like in my general life. I watched them on I 371 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 8: don't know, I watch them on Netflix. I never had 372 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 8: a feeling about him really, except he'd win. 373 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: He'd be like, oh, look at the muscular guy. 374 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: He's kind of like the football player Jock who now 375 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: wins a golf and you just go, I'm jealous because 376 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: I ain't that. 377 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: But then you watch him on full swing and you're like, no, 378 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: I don't like him as well. 379 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, and then he's joined liv. I mean it 380 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: all just kind of matched up with Bruce Kaprika. But yes, 381 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: great villains, all all right. Next going to the next one. 382 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts just got a two hundred and fifty five 383 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 8: million dollar contract. If you were to get that contract, 384 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 8: what's the first thing you would buy? 385 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: Well, two hundred and fifty five millions. So he's not 386 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: gonna get all that. Obviously, he's gonna get a lot, 387 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. But if I were doing the 388 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: quick math here, he so he's gonna get about probably 389 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: like one hundred and ten million dollars once all his 390 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: agent fees, once the taxes are taken out. So let's say, 391 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: let's say a hundred and fifteen million, I buy a jet. 392 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: That's really what I would buy. I buy jet you 393 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: could get. They're expensive to have and keeping a hanger 394 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: and a fun and pilot. But if I got one 395 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: hundred fifty million from that deal, and I'm getting other 396 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: money coming in too, obviously from other places as well, I. 397 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: Get a jet, like twenty million. 398 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 9: How big of a jet? Can twenty million? 399 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: How big? 400 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: You get a good eight seater eight to ten seater? 401 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: Immediately that'd be my big thing. I'll go and I 402 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: would get. 403 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: A jet that'd be so sick. Oh yeah, that's it. 404 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: That's the only answer I have because I give me 405 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: one hundred million right now. First thing I'm gona do 406 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: give all you guys or nothing and get me a jet. 407 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: All right? 408 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 9: Can we go on the jets? 409 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, you can go on the jet, all right. 410 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 8: Next out, With the major rule changes going on in 411 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 8: the MLB, what does one more rule change you would 412 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 8: like to see any sport? 413 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: Have I've mentioned this before. 414 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: I think it is bizarre that in the NBA, I 415 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: make a great pass and you go up and you 416 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: get fouled after I made that great pass, and then 417 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: you make your free throws that I don't get an assist. 418 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: You didn't even get. 419 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 7: To the line. 420 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: You won't even got to the line if I wouldn't. 421 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: Give you that great pass or got the shot, and 422 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: you probably would have made it otherwise. If I make 423 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: a great pay, if I'm John Stockton, I see karmelone 424 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: cutting boom back door, he goes up, boh, foul, he 425 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: goes to makes his free throws, I should get an assist. 426 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: I set all that up. I assisted those points. I 427 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: think it is it's just bizarre there is no assist 428 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: given at that time. I don't even think that was 429 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: that crazy. I don't even know if that one's ever 430 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: been discussed, and if it hasn't why hasn't it been, 431 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: because that's amazing. 432 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 9: I like that one. 433 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 4: The other one would be. 434 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: In college basketball, when they do the playing games, they 435 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: should only be teams that. 436 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: Are at large bids. 437 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: You know, they have the sixty four, then they have 438 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: sixty eight, and then they play into the sixty four 439 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: and they have those those terrible games early in the 440 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: week that nobody wants to play. Then you're tired by 441 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 2: the time you have to go play the one seed. Anyway, 442 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: if you win your conference and you get into the tournament, 443 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: you should be able to get into the tournament. Like 444 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: you won your conference, you should have a spot to 445 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: play in the NCAA tournament. The only teams that should 446 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: play the play in games are at large teams. If 447 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: you're going to make them the two eleven seeds and 448 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: they do the elevens are usually that all those play 449 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: ins need to be people playing in because they were 450 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: given a free ticket to get in because they didn't 451 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: win their ticket. 452 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 4: Outright, I feel that would be fair because. 453 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: You hate for like a Colgate or a Nibisco, you 454 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 2: or whoever else to win their tournament. Be so excited 455 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: by the way you're playing Tuesday, you don't even get 456 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: to playing that EI, there's a chance you don't get 457 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: to play in the real tournament, right. 458 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 4: That sucks. That's stupid, So I would change that as well. 459 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 8: We talked about Tiger a little bit ago and he 460 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 8: just had surgery. So I'm wondering what your worst surgery 461 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 8: is that you've ever had or worse INJURYO. 462 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 4: Uh, both of the same. 463 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: But I was a kid kid, I fell off a 464 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: house on my stomach rupture my spleen. Didn't know what 465 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: it was like, almost drown it internally in my own blood. 466 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: Is a whole situation. 467 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: I was in the hospital for a long time as 468 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: a kid, but I was like five, was like six, 469 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: so to me, I remember it, but I don't really 470 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: have like memories of going. My whole life has been 471 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: interrupted because of an injury or a surgery. 472 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: Also, I didn't really. 473 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: Know surgery what. Yeah, I was scared when you don't 474 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: know enough to be scared. H I broke a couple 475 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: of ribs and that wasn't a surgery but just broken crap. 476 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: Maybe hurt worse thannything's ever happened to me because it 477 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: was constant. You know how you have a headache and 478 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do when you have a headache 479 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: to make the headache away. There's nothing you can do 480 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: except get rid of the headache. And sometimes you just 481 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: sit there with a freaking migraine. You can't walk, you 482 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: can't The ribs very similar that you can't breathe, and 483 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: you have to breathe all the time, so then you're 484 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: thinking about your breath all the time. 485 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: The ribs brutal broke to playing high school football. I 486 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 4: have three broken fingers and they hurt, but they hurt 487 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 4: more now. 488 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: Than they did then because every time the air pressure 489 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: changes like that which means new weather's coming in new front, 490 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: they start aching. They've always ached since they've been broken. 491 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 2: So I have a shoulder. When I tore my shoulder 492 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 2: and dancing with the Stars and didn't have a surgery, 493 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: they said I should probably go in if I wanted 494 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: to have surgery unless you can just deal with the pain. 495 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: And I still deal with it. I had a friend 496 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 2: who played in the NFL, like, do not get shouldlder surgery. 497 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: He was like, if you can, if you can do it, 498 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 2: just keep going. Don't even go after the show's over, Like, 499 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: just do rehab because shoulder surgery messages you up for 500 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 2: a long time. So, but the shoulder thing bothers me 501 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: constantly now. But I'm lucky that I haven't had a 502 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: bad one as an adult. But the ribs hurt, my 503 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: finger still hurt. My shoulder kills me a lot if 504 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: I had to go to a lot of rehab for it. 505 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: But nothing't like but Tiger, I mean, Tiger got right 506 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: and messed him all up? 507 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 7: All right? Go ahead? 508 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 8: Two talked about mulling retirement earlier this week. Who are 509 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 8: some athletes that you wish retired sooner than they did? 510 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: Emmitt Smith comes to mind because I hated seeing him 511 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: play with the Cardinals. I didn't like the Cowboys, but 512 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: it just felt weird watching him put that cardinal's helmet 513 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: on and play for the Cardinals that year. 514 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 4: Aren't even for us A year or two years, I 515 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 4: don't know, probably one. It sucked. 516 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 2: I didn't like it, and I I say, no, I've 517 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: spent some time with him. I probably could message him 518 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: and he'd be like, hey, what up? So be a 519 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: couple times in Emmitt So, I love him, but I don't. 520 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: I didn't like him as a Cardinal. I didn't know 521 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: him at all. Then and then Shaq was on so 522 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: many weird teams at the end, even playing for the 523 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: Celtics at the end. 524 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree, even as a fan. 525 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just like, I don't like what's happening here, Shack. 526 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: You should never be sitting on the bench. 527 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: It doesn't look good. It's not right. You're the man. 528 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 4: Go away the man. 529 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 2: But we don't know what's happened with money, true, you know, 530 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: we don't know why he's playing his love. If he 531 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: has love and they want to put it on the roster, great, 532 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: good deal. But emtt Smith and Shack to me, what 533 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: about you? 534 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 9: For me, it would be probably Peyton Manning. 535 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 8: I know he won when he went out, he went, 536 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 8: I know, but he looked so awful, so hard to 537 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 8: watch it. 538 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: Ok, then here I'll go with another great, Michael Jordan. 539 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: That's the one, Peyton Manning. If that's your answer, that's fine. 540 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: You're dumby, but still. 541 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 9: A transfer, you know, because Michael Jordan. 542 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 8: I only I remember more vividly on the Wizards, which 543 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 8: hurts my brain. 544 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: That's weird. 545 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you really didn't see a lot of 546 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: the Wow, you're right, you're right. We talked about that 547 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: you didn't see a lot of earlier. Michael Jordan's for me. Also, 548 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: Randy Moss playing for the Seahawks. 549 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 4: I think he did that. For a minute. 550 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: You're digging deep in your brain because I don't have 551 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: any sort of reference on that, and I know you didn't, 552 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: But I think Randy Moss played for the Seahawks. 553 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 4: For for just a second. 554 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 7: The Titans. 555 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: Everyone's thinking he played for the Titans. 556 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Randy mossy half a year, Yeah, exactly, I remember 557 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: all that. 558 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: All right, there you go. 559 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 7: That is the tittle Tattle. 560 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 4: Thank you stupid his name ever, it's the tittle Tattle. 561 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: Okay. A reminder that twenty five Whistles is brought to 562 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: you by DraftKings Sports book. Download the DraftKings app used 563 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: to code Bobby Sports get in on the action these 564 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: NBA games. First of all, I missed hard on the Warriors. 565 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: I just thought the Warrior wouldn't lose another game. They 566 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: are because they're at home five and a half point 567 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 2: favorite as of right now as I'm doing this, that 568 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: could change. But they've been terrible on the road all year, 569 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: they've been great at home, so I think the Warriors 570 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: are going to roll. So I would take the Warriors 571 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 2: minus five and a half tonight, just because I can't 572 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: believe how bad they are on the road. 573 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 4: I can't. 574 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: I can't believe how they just aren't winning on them, Like, 575 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 2: what is the big difference with Golden State on the road. 576 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, and how it's transitioned. 577 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 8: Everyone kind of forgot about that and then you get 578 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 8: there like, oh, yeah, they're really bad on the road. 579 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 7: Well all year. 580 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: I just expected them to win Game two for sure, 581 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: because even though it was in sack. Yeah, So the 582 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: Sixers minus four and a half at the Nets. 583 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: I just feel like the Sixers is probably gonna roll 584 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: this too. It doesn't matter. 585 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: The Suns minus two and a half at the Clippers. 586 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: That series, I don't have my finger on quite yet, 587 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: so you guys check it out. The one I would 588 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: go with those Warriors minus five and a half. Take 589 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: the twenty five whistles. I would say, challenge, and maybe 590 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: it's a challenge to bet with me. If it's NFL 591 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: or NBA, take the challenge and ride with me. College football. 592 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: I feel good about college basketball. I feel good about 593 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: but man, these these programs are tough for me. Draftking Sportsbook, 594 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: get it New users use the Cobobby Sports when you 595 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: download the app twenty one and up in most eligible states, 596 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: but age varies by jurisdiction. 597 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 4: Eligibility restrictions apply. 598 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: Gambling problem one hundred, Gambler in New York eight seven 599 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: seven eight, Hope and wire text Hope and y four 600 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: six seven three six nine. See show notes for full 601 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: to tails. We do a great interview here. We're gonna 602 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: talk with former five star recruit and Penn State tight 603 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: end Adam Brenneman. 604 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 4: That's old school. 605 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: We're on mostly because we're gonna talk about his media 606 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 2: company called Mercury, where he helps athletes monetize their nil 607 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: worth personalized brand building, I think learning about nils and 608 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: because people just throw it out all the time, portal 609 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: and IL, we'll get them by pay and io throw 610 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: them into portal. But let's actually talk about what that means. 611 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: And he also coached with HERM Edwards. He has a 612 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: Penn State record. Follow Adam on TikTok and Twitter at 613 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: Adam Brenneman eighty one and we'll talk more about a 614 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: show and everything else in this So here is Adam Brenneman. 615 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 4: Adam, what's up? 616 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: Man? 617 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 7: So Bobby, how are you man? 618 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: So I have a lot of questions because especially with 619 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: what you're doing and what you specialize in with Team Mercury. 620 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 2: But just to give people just a background on who 621 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: you are, five star recruit, you played tied End, you 622 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: went to Penn State. You obviously have a college football 623 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: career that I mean, you have what the longest touchdown 624 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: reception by a tight end of Penn State history? 625 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 4: How long was that reception? 626 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 10: By the way, it was sixty eight yards? Man, And 627 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 10: I'm a hold onto that one forever. I've been telling 628 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 10: people every time everywhere I go, I tell people about 629 00:24:59,280 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 10: that record. 630 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: I think someone's going to hit a seventy eighty yarder. 631 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 7: You don't think that to be broken? 632 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 10: No, you know, you know those records that are like 633 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 10: longest touchdown by a freshman who was under six two. 634 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: So Adam has this like a great playing career. But 635 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 2: then Team Mercury is Will you explain that to our 636 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 2: listeners before I kind of get into some questions about it. 637 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, So Mercury's a sports media company at its core. 638 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 10: We have a variety of shows, podcasts, talent. You know, 639 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 10: you can kind of think of it as a barstool 640 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 10: sports that specializes in just college sports, and we actually 641 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 10: partner with colleges and universities, some of which Kentucky, Kansas, Oklahoma, Clemson, Villanova, UCF, 642 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 10: some premier colleges and college athletics to partner with them 643 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 10: to create these fan experiences, these fan platforms, and then 644 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 10: also do ANIL deals with their players, which allows us 645 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 10: access that really no one else has. And we have 646 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 10: a few shows that student athletes actually hosts. So it's 647 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 10: a pretty cool concept, pretty unique. At its core, we're 648 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 10: a sports media company. 649 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: So the NIL is what I'm super curious about and 650 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 2: your thoughts on it, And just to give you my background, 651 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: I think I've done ANIL deals with about twelve or 652 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: thirteen players at the University of Arkansas, from football players, 653 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: women's basketball, cheerleading, et cetera. So I try to support 654 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: those guys, meaning guys women both, And so let's just 655 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: talk about it, and how do you feel the NIL 656 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: is affecting college sports and in good way, bad way? 657 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 4: Like what are the pros and cons so far? 658 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 10: I mean it is it's changed the game completely, as 659 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 10: you know, Bobby, it's we're still kind of in the 660 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 10: phase of figuring it all out. Right, it's you know, 661 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 10: what are the implications? What's it mean long term? How 662 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 10: do how are universities involved? You know, when this came down, 663 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 10: it obviously came down from a court ruling, but still 664 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 10: there's been state laws that are different across state. I 665 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 10: mean for a long time, you look at penn State 666 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 10: versus Ohio State. Ohio State coaches were allowed to be 667 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 10: involved in NIL deals based on their state law, while 668 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 10: Pennsylvania coaches weren't. You know, So it's been this kind 669 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 10: of uneven playing field. No one really knows what's going on. 670 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 10: I think at its core, NIL is a great thing. 671 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 10: I mean I remember being back in high school and 672 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 10: college and like writing essay papers about why student athletes 673 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 10: should be able to getet paid and make money off 674 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 10: their name, image, and likeness. Now, the issue with NIL 675 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 10: is that when NIL came down and the court ruling happened, 676 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 10: and it was intended to be you know, the starting 677 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 10: quarterback doing an NIL deal with his local car dealership, right, 678 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 10: the stuff you're doing, Bobby, you know, that's what NIL 679 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 10: is intended to be, being allowing student athletes to do. 680 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 10: What it's not intended to be is collectives raising a 681 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 10: bunch of money and paying a player to transfer to 682 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 10: their school, paying a player to to come to their school, 683 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 10: and that's where the discrepancy is. In the NFL, you know, 684 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 10: you have marketing deals, you have players are able to 685 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 10: do that, there's a salary cap. In college football, you 686 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 10: have this thing called recruiting, and recruiting determines who wins 687 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 10: the national championship every single year. It's not about the 688 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 10: x's and nodes. It's Jimmy's and Joe's. It's a long 689 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 10: time saying around college football. It's all about recruiting. And 690 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 10: when you tie in NIL with recruiting, obviously pay for 691 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 10: play happens a little bit. And you got people trying 692 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 10: to use NIL in recruiting to pay players. 693 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 7: To come to their school. That's where the issue is. 694 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 10: But I really think at the end of the day, 695 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 10: at its core, it's a great thing for the sport. 696 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 10: I think it's a great thing for the student athletes. 697 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 10: But obviously there's still a lot that easy to get 698 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 10: figured out, and I think at some point we'll probably 699 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 10: see some federal legislation come down that governs the entire thing, 700 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 10: because I think the NCAA has shown they can't really handle. 701 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 4: It or really anything consistently. 702 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 7: Anything, Yeah, not just the nil. 703 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: I feel like we're aligned in a lot of ways 704 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: because I advocated, even lobbied to lawmakers if I felt 705 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: it needed it to where if you're eighteen years old 706 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: in this country, you can vote, and you can X, 707 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: Y and z, and somebody in a classroom that's in 708 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: a college classroom can be an influencer and they can 709 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: make But an athlete's actually being punished because he wasn't 710 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: able to just do equally what everybody else was doing, right, 711 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: So it wasn't that you're giving the athlete any sort 712 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: of just we're giving you free money. Like if they 713 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: were strong enough, good enough, known enough to actually get 714 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: a deal for social media or podcasting, that's what everybody's 715 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: able to do, why should they be punished. So we're 716 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 2: very aligned on that because this is a country too 717 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: where you're eighteen, you're an adult. 718 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 4: You should be able to make some money. 719 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: At the same time, very old school archaic rules in 720 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: college sports and so, like I was totally all in, 721 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm still all in and I love it, but at times, 722 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, it does feel very chaotic and you 723 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: hear about some of these deals, and I hear about 724 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: some of these deals through people that I work with, 725 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: and there are no rules. It is the wild West. 726 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: So what is going to need to happen? Because usually 727 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: it takes something really bad or crazy to happen to 728 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: actually create some sort of force for good. What's going 729 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: to have to happen to have some rules here? 730 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I you know, I get asked that question a lot, 731 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 7: and I don't. I don't. 732 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 10: I really don't have a great answer for how you 733 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 10: fix it. I think that the problem comes from a 734 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 10: from this one area that I believe is like the 735 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 10: main thing that drives the frustration. It's that, you know, 736 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 10: when back up I mentioned the NFL players, and I'm 737 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 10: sure you know a bunch of guys too that complain 738 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 10: about this. I'm sure the amount of friends I have 739 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 10: in the NFL who complain about not making any money 740 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 10: on marketing deals is exponential. I mean the amount of 741 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 10: guys that are starters in the NFL who complain and 742 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 10: are like, man, I only make one hundred grand in 743 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 10: marketing deals. It's a lot of money, but a lot 744 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 10: of times you think these guys make more money. So like, 745 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 10: that's that's because it's there that's the real market value 746 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 10: that they bring to a brand. Right, if you're starting 747 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 10: tight end in the NFL, you're not making five million 748 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 10: bucks a year, and then in marketing deals you may 749 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 10: make some money here and there. So I say that 750 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 10: to say that the in the value is so high 751 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 10: in college football and nil deals, which are supposed to 752 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,239 Speaker 10: be marketing deals, is because of the recruiting and this 753 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 10: one thing called the transfer portal. Right, the transfer portal 754 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 10: changed the game completely. You got a guy, for an example, 755 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 10: as one of my friends, Kenny Pickett Right, first round 756 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 10: draft pick, number one quarterback in the country at Pitt. 757 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 10: The guy made one hundred thousand dollars his senior year 758 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 10: pit and he was a Heisman candidate. Number one pick 759 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 10: in the NFL draft. Right only made one hundred thousand dollars. 760 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 10: His market value would have gone up probably fifty x 761 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 10: if he just entered the transfer portal. Right, if he 762 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 10: entered the transfer portal, he's now worth three million dollars. 763 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 7: To a school. 764 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 10: But because he stayed a pit, he's not worth any 765 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 10: he's worth you know what's he worth in money to 766 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 10: pit business? 767 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 7: Right? Like? 768 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 10: What are they going to pay him to do a 769 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 10: car dealership commercial. So these guys are incentivized to enter 770 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 10: the portal because they're worth more money on the open market. 771 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 10: They get more NIL money. The schools use it to 772 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 10: bribe them or get them to come to their school. 773 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 10: So the combination of NIL and the transfer portal, I 774 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 10: think is really you know, you combine everything at this 775 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 10: at the same time, college football has changed more in 776 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 10: the last five years, and it changed in the last 777 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 10: one hundred. At the same time, you combine NIL so 778 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 10: players can get paid. You combine the transfer portal with 779 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 10: an unlimited transfer or i'm sorry, a first time transfer waiver, 780 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 10: not without having to sit out. And then you also 781 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 10: combine recruiting being at the hot most competitive level it's 782 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 10: ever been. It's a bad combination, and that the portal 783 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 10: in the NIL together is where you hear the bad 784 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 10: things happening, right and you hear the frustration. You hear 785 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 10: the Jordan Addison story of leaving pitt to go to 786 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 10: USC last year. I'm sure you remember that story on 787 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 10: a massive NIL deal. You hear the stories about Jada Rashada, 788 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 10: the quarterback who commits to Florida. They promised the twelve 789 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 10: million dollars or whatever it was, and they don't have 790 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 10: the money to pay them. It's those combinations that make 791 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 10: it that cause issues. So I think if you see 792 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 10: anything happen soon, I think it could be some kind 793 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 10: of legislation around the transfer waiver or not allowing guys 794 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 10: to actually transfer right away after one year, maybe making 795 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 10: them wait two years or three years of transfer, something 796 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 10: around there. I don't have an exact answer, but I 797 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 10: think that's where the problem really stems from. 798 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 2: And you bring up a great point when coaches have 799 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: to keep recruiting their kids to stay, not just recruiting 800 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: their kids to come to the program, and what's happening 801 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: is they say, Okay, the coaches got to convince the 802 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: kid they want to stay. But it's almost like you've 803 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 2: got to convince the kid and pay him more. It's 804 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: almost like a contract negotiation just so they don't decide 805 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: to leave. And again, if I were a nineteen year 806 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: old kid and I didn't come from money and I 807 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: needed money, I'd probably jump too. If I could get three, 808 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: four or five hundred thousand bucks. 809 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, it's life changing money even, you know. 810 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 10: And one of the reasons I like nil and it 811 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 10: sounds like you're in the same mindset, is you got 812 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 10: the kid. It's not always the guys making three million bucks, right, 813 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 10: it's the starting offensive lineman who was able to make 814 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 10: twenty five grand his senior year and that completely changes 815 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 10: the trajectory of his life. Right, you leave college football, 816 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 10: maybe you don't play the NFL. But if you leave 817 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 10: college football and you have and you go to the 818 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 10: real world and you have thirty grand in the bank 819 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 10: because you did an il deals, I mean, talk about 820 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 10: the advantage you have on the rest of the workforce, 821 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 10: on the rest of the people out there. It's little 822 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 10: things like that. Maybe it's ten grand, maybe it's the 823 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 10: kid that can I mean, I remember teammates of mine 824 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 10: who would get the pel grant checks, right, the checks 825 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 10: for the for low income families, for student athletes that 826 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 10: would get their checks for you know, a couple of 827 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 10: thousand bucks a semester and send it directly home to 828 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 10: their families. 829 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 7: And that always broke my heart. I'm like, man, like, 830 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 7: where's your money? What are you doing? 831 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 5: Well? 832 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 10: My family needs so you know, to tell those kids 833 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 10: that they can't go make a thousand bucks to do 834 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 10: an autograph signding like, that's ridiculous to me. At the 835 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 10: same time, there needs to be you know, there needs 836 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 10: to be some kind of structure within IO. 837 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 4: And we can jump off this in a second. 838 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: But something that I found while setting up these deals 839 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: with different attorney and people at the university to make 840 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: sure that we met all the requirements and everything was 841 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: above board. I needed to make it above board for 842 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: me as well, being a public figure. That what I 843 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: learned is you can basically go all right, I'm gonna 844 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: I didn't do this like my first one was ever 845 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: was Jaylen Williams, who now plays basketball at Oklahoma City 846 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: based Arkansas Guy. I gave him fifteen thousand bucks over 847 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: a series to promote one of my TV shows, and 848 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: so I had him working. You could see him working. 849 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: We had it all out out in public. It wasn't 850 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: like a million dollar deal, but I felt like it 851 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 2: was enough where he really felt valued. 852 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 4: He did the work. 853 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 2: And where you come in, especially with your business now, 854 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: it sounds like you're getting some of these athletes to 855 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: actually do the work where I could literally how I 856 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 2: felt while doing these deals. I could say, I'd like 857 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: for you to come knock on my door, say hi, 858 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna get you a million bucks. And it's 859 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 2: not having to be reported. There's no maximum minimum of 860 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: work you have to do. It's just we've agreed for this, 861 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 2: and I can pay you this. And that felt like 862 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: wildly just so open ended that you could pay anybody 863 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: any amount to really do nothing where you guys are 864 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 2: actually doing shows with athletes. 865 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 10: You make a great point, you know nil, For an 866 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 10: nil deal to be allowed, there has to be some 867 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 10: kind of transaction there, right, you can't just pay a guy. 868 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 10: It has to be like you said, it has to 869 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 10: be you know, there has to be an exchange of services. 870 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 10: You know, they have to promote something or some kind 871 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 10: of marketing deal. But really, I think the NCAA legislation 872 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 10: says something like it has to be fair market value, 873 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 10: But like who decides what fair market value is? You know, 874 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 10: a collective may tell a quarterback, we're going to pay 875 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 10: you a million dollars to come to our school. In exchange, 876 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 10: you have to post on social media three times, right, 877 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 10: like that's not actually fair market value? But who can 878 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 10: tell them that's not right? Who can tell a business 879 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 10: that's not worth it for them? So that that's where 880 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 10: another huge issue comes in. But yeah, I mean at Mercury, 881 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 10: the cool you know, we're not we I have no 882 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 10: interest in paying an athlete without without getting something in return. Right, 883 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 10: there's nothing in that game for me. There's nothing in 884 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 10: it for you and your business either. So you know, 885 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 10: for us, it's all about nowadays, is we're seeing athletes 886 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 10: want to do their own content. When I was playing football, 887 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 10: it was almost you know, not even long ago, it 888 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 10: was almost frowned upon to do your own media. You know, 889 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 10: it was almost like, oh, we're football players, we don't 890 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 10: talk to the media. Where media is the bad guys. 891 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 10: Nowadays you see guys, and it started with Pat McAfee, 892 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 10: Draymond Green doing his own show, JJ Reddick doing it. 893 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 10: You see these guys that are now athletes want to 894 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 10: host their own shows, want to want to do their 895 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 10: own media, and they can go right to the source. 896 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 10: They can they can end a game and do a 897 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 10: podcast and explain what happened and not have to go 898 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 10: do not have to explain it to a press conference 899 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 10: of thirty reporters staring at them. So that we've capitalized 900 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 10: on that and just see found these guys. I mean, 901 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 10: we get reached out to. I literally reach out to 902 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 10: almost every day of Division one POWERFY football players that 903 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 10: want to start their own show. And for us, it's like, 904 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 10: where can we put our resources? What makes sense? You know, 905 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 10: what can we actually produce? But it's exciting. It's a 906 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 10: fun time to be a student athlete. And that's another 907 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 10: way that NIL I really think NIL is a part 908 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 10: of that is not directly, but Nil's changed the game 909 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 10: in the mindset where athletes now want to build brand. 910 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 10: They're not afraid to be public, they're not afraid to 911 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 10: talk to talk to the media and do their own media. 912 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 10: It's really commercialized college sports, and I think it's pretty 913 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 10: cool to see to see athletes, you know, building their 914 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 10: brand and taking advantage because a lot of them also 915 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 10: want to be a media when they're done playing. 916 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you missed out on a bunch 917 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 2: of money because you're a five star recruit and that's 918 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 2: got to be I mean, you got to be the 919 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: bell of the ball everywhere you go, especially when it 920 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 2: comes to your senior year. I mean, as a five 921 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 2: star recruit, just think of the cash you could have 922 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: made if this was the deal back then. 923 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 10: It's funny I was. One of my best friends is 924 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 10: a guy named Christian Hackenberg. Remember him, was a was 925 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 10: a five star recruit, went to Penn State with me 926 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 10: and played for the Jets for a while. We were 927 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 10: just he was on my show the other day and 928 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 10: we were talking just about like we would have made 929 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 10: some money, especially at Penn State. You know, Penn State's 930 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 10: a that's a that's a that's an intense community around 931 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 10: the football program. And and the time we went there too. 932 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 10: I mean we went to Penn State in the middle 933 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 10: of you know, the Penn State scandal, when the when 934 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 10: the fans were trying to rally around each other. 935 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 7: It would have been completely different. It would have been nice. 936 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 10: I have probably have a few more bucks than I 937 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 10: have right now if I would have would have had nil. 938 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 2: Tell me about your show you mentioned it next up 939 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 2: with Adam. What are you guys talking about over there? 940 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 10: We're doing sit down podcast style conversations. You know, I'd 941 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 10: like to call it a conversation, not an interview, and 942 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 10: just talk about life, you know, players, careers. You know, 943 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 10: We've had guys on a bunch of big names in 944 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 10: sports and college football, NFL. Jared Goff, Kenny Pickett, and 945 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 10: I mentioned, you know, a bunch of different media personalities 946 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 10: and stuff. Really just you know, a lot of times 947 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 10: I'm going to these guys and and and bringing a 948 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 10: video crew and where if it's a big enough guest, 949 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 10: you know, going to them and sitting down in their 950 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 10: living room and just talking about their story and life, 951 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 10: you know, which which I really enjoy. I think for 952 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 10: a lot of guys, you get so as an athlete, 953 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 10: you get brought up in this culture of like being 954 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 10: afraid of what you're saying in public, and being afraid 955 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 10: of the media and being afraid of, you know, making 956 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 10: sure you don't say anything wrong. What we try to 957 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 10: do is just take that down and make them, you know, 958 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 10: have them almost forget that they're on podcast and just 959 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 10: open up and talk. And then you know, I always 960 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 10: tell the guys, if you say anything you don't want 961 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 10: in there, we can always take it out, but let's 962 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 10: just be open and have some fun with the conversation. 963 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: What about coaching for you spent two years at Arizona 964 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 2: State under HERM Edwards, right like why? And I think 965 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 2: I saw that you were the youngest position coach at 966 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 2: a Power five school like one. Did you like coaching. 967 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 2: Two what was HERM like? And three would you go back? 968 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 10: Herb's the man? I mean, Herm is exactly what you 969 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 10: see on TV. Is you know the guy with the energy. 970 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 10: You know, you see the playoffs, the playoffs ran like, 971 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 10: that's her. Every day you walk in the office and 972 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 10: that's the energy. 973 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 7: I mean. He was a great, really a good. 974 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 10: He was coaching his coaches really well, and he taught 975 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 10: us a lot about leadership, how to treat people, how 976 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 10: to get people to believe in yourself, you know, how 977 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 10: to his big thing he always said that, you know, 978 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 10: if you're a coach and you got these players or 979 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 10: a leader of any kind, you have to give people hope. 980 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 10: That's what he always said and always reminded us of it. 981 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 10: I still have. You know, Herm wasn't a big Texter, 982 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 10: not a big email guy. So every day I would, 983 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 10: you know, three four days a week, I'd walk into 984 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 10: my office at Arizona State, and when I was a 985 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 10: ten ends coach, I'd have a I'd have a printed 986 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 10: out piece of paper with a message of the day 987 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 10: from her right. 988 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 7: He would get in. 989 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 10: There early at four am and I'd walk in and 990 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,919 Speaker 10: on my desk was a piece of paper. I still 991 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 10: got tons of them with a quote, with a piece 992 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 10: of advice, words of wisdom, words of encouragement. He would 993 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 10: actually type it out and give it to the coaches, 994 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 10: which was really cool, you know, just it's a funny 995 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 10: thing though thinking of like you could just text me that, 996 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 10: right but but but it definitely brought, you know, a 997 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 10: different level of to it when when it's printed out. 998 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,479 Speaker 10: But Herm's a man, and he was. He was really 999 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 10: fun to work with. You know, I loved coaching. It's 1000 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 10: there's very few especially with being how young I was, 1001 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 10: there's very few jobs or roles where you can have 1002 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 10: as much of an impact on people as you can 1003 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 10: as a coach. I mean you're you're literally changing people's 1004 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 10: lives and you're building people up and changing. 1005 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,959 Speaker 7: Or giving young man opportunities. 1006 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 10: The thing that's changed about coaching, and you're seeing a 1007 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 10: lot of guys get out of coaching or trying to 1008 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 10: get to the NFL is what we just talked about. Man, 1009 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 10: I mean, you got as a college coach number one, 1010 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 10: it's all about recruiting. It's it's maybe eighty percent talent 1011 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 10: acquisition and twenty percent talent development. I mean it is 1012 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 10: all about recruiting, and NIL has changed that completely. I mean, 1013 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 10: you're you're you mentioned it, Bobby. You're recruiting your own 1014 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 10: roster over and over and over again, and constantly. These 1015 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 10: guys are getting hit up by their agent, by other 1016 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 10: people saying, you can get if you go in the portal, 1017 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 10: You'll make this amount of money. You can go here 1018 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 10: for this an il deal. So it's it's a tough 1019 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 10: time to be a college coach. I mean, there's a 1020 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 10: lot of guys that don't want to do it. For me, 1021 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 10: I I always had this passion for media and wanting 1022 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 10: to get into it, so it felt like an easy transition, 1023 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 10: especially when you know everyone at HERM left ASU and 1024 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 10: you know, but it was it was a fun time, man. 1025 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 10: I mean, I think we'll I ever get back into it. 1026 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 10: I think I think, you know, it's definitely possible. It's 1027 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 10: it's a it's a you know, like I said, there's 1028 00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 10: there's a few things you can make as much of 1029 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 10: an impact. But I'm definitely enjoying what I'm doing now. 1030 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 2: Final question for you, when it comes to the NFL Draft, 1031 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 2: you know, it's always been Bryce Young and then quickly 1032 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 2: for a while it was c J. Stroud when the 1033 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 2: Panthers traded up to number one, even the odds flipped heavily. 1034 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: But now it's back to Bryce Young. Where do you 1035 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: see this falling with Bryce c J. 1036 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 4: Stroud? 1037 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 2: Just the quarterbacks, and I'm assuming that that number three 1038 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 2: pick is probably going to get traded out, so another 1039 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 2: one of those quarterbacks and grabbed up by those teams. Like, 1040 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 2: how do you see those, let's say, those top four 1041 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 2: quarterbacks falling. 1042 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 7: I've been back and forth on this for a while. 1043 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 7: I'll be honest. 1044 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 10: My original I did a take on this like three 1045 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 10: months ago. My original order was Will Levis going first overall, 1046 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 10: which that's obviously not going to happen anymore. And then 1047 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 10: I had I had Bryce Young, then Stroud, then Richardson. 1048 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 10: I'm still super high on Will Levis. I think Will 1049 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 10: Levis reminds a lot of GMS, and I think that 1050 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 10: I think the media draft media doesn't isn't as high 1051 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 10: on Levis as I as. I believe that the gms 1052 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 10: in the in the NFL front offices are from people 1053 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 10: I've talked to from just what I know about the 1054 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 10: game in the league, Will Levis reminds every one of 1055 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 10: Josh Allen. And if there's one quarterback in the league 1056 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 10: that a lot of teams are trying to emulate or say, 1057 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 10: we need to get this guy for our team, it's 1058 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 10: Josh Allen or maybe you know Mahomes. He possibly hurts, 1059 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 10: but you know, teams are trying to find the next 1060 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 10: Josh Allen. And Will Levis word of mind, everyone physically, mentally, 1061 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 10: emotionally of Josh Allen. So I think Levis, I still 1062 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 10: think there's are chances a run on quarterbacks and you go, 1063 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 10: you know, four in a row. But I think that 1064 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 10: Bryce would be the first pick. I think that's kind 1065 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,760 Speaker 10: of seems to be the consensus now. It's gonna be Bryce, CJ. 1066 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 10: Will and then Richardson is what I believe is going 1067 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 10: to happen now. And I think that's that's mostly the consensus, 1068 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 10: but you never know how these things could fall. 1069 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 7: Man. 1070 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 10: I think Richardson's turned some heads, but I don't think 1071 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 10: he's quite ready. Stroud's shown to be just more polished, 1072 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 10: and you know, CJ. Stroud's a guy. 1073 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 7: I was just talking. 1074 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 10: I just did a show on the quarterbacks a couple 1075 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 10: of days ago, and you know, I I feel like 1076 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 10: we're forgetting that C. J. 1077 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 7: Stroud. 1078 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 10: You know the kind of career he had, that he's 1079 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 10: the most decorated pastor in Ohio state history. That he's 1080 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 10: incredibly accurate, which is probably the most important trait in 1081 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 10: the NFL. If I was a GM, I think right 1082 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 10: now I would take Stroud first overall. Now, again, they 1083 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 10: know a lot more than we do, but I believe 1084 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 10: it's going to be Bryce young Man. 1085 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 2: You're awesome. I really appreciate you, Adam coming on. I 1086 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: want everybody to check out Next up with Adam. If 1087 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 2: you think he's awesome here, you ought to hear him there. Also, 1088 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 2: good luck with team Mercury and Mercury and follow Adam 1089 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 2: at Adam Brenneman. 1090 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 4: We really appreciate the time. 1091 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: This has been excellent for me and I think our 1092 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 2: audience learned a whole lot. So thank you for being 1093 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 2: so generous. 1094 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 4: Adam. 1095 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 7: Appreciate man, appreciate having me all. 1096 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 4: I see Buddy. 1097 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks to Adam for coming on and check out 1098 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 2: his podcast too. 1099 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 4: I enjoyed that. 1100 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 2: I enjoy talking about NIO because I feel like, again 1101 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 2: people just throw that around like they know all about it, 1102 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: when I don't know all about it, and I've been 1103 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 2: in it doing deals with players, working with attorneys, and 1104 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 2: even then I'm like, really you just do that, So 1105 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 2: to me, that was super cool. 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Usually just Kevin and I. 1134 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 9: It's like, I always going on here. 1135 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 6: Don't work for us anymore, I know, but I had 1136 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 6: to get something from my computer. 1137 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 4: You don't work here. 1138 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 7: Hey. 1139 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,320 Speaker 6: When you're talking about that that that pick though, I'm like, oh. 1140 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 3: God, I want to say something. 1141 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 2: I want to say that you would not take the 1142 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: Warriors minus five and a half. 1143 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 3: No do the Warriors. I don't know what their deal is. 1144 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 4: On the road. They don't win. They're on They're at 1145 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 4: home now. 1146 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 6: Okay, so it doesn't matter. It does seem like a 1147 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 6: lot of these home teams are winning. 1148 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 4: But just mark this. 1149 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 2: He made an appearance and then the guy who if 1150 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 2: he bets it, I'm like, thank god I didn't bet 1151 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 2: that way. That's how I feel mostly, so you should 1152 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 2: be feeling feel better. Well, since you heard, you want 1153 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 2: to hear about little announcement that I'm making. 1154 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 9: Here, I do get comfy. 1155 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 3: Hold on, they put my. 1156 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 4: Head about him? 1157 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 2: Hey need whistle? No you you're not part of us 1158 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 2: and you don't have your whistle. We should bring we 1159 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 2: should bring him on as a guest. Sometimes you interview. 1160 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 2: What are you doing anyway? 1161 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 3: I'm getting videos off my computer? 1162 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 4: Got him. So we're gonna start a couple of digital 1163 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 4: series video digital question is for you, Kevin, what do 1164 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 4: you When do you play golf? What do you shoot? 1165 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 4: What's your score? 1166 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 8: Remember what read was talking about the other day. Yeah, yeah, 1167 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 8: I would say I'm around there like one hundred. Yeah, 1168 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 8: So here gound round one hundred, give or take. 1169 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 2: What we're gonna do is we're gonna we will be 1170 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: doing a six part video series called Breaking ninety with 1171 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 2: Kevin what and so, And one of the sponsors of 1172 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 2: it will be Cobra because they're gonna hook you up 1173 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 2: with all the clubs. We actually have a we actually 1174 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 2: have a fitting next Thursday. 1175 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: Shut down. 1176 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 2: So it'll be Kevin trying to break ninety. But again, 1177 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 2: you're gonna get all the clubs. They're hooking you up. 1178 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 2: You're gonna go get what however, tall, muscular, skinny, whatever 1179 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 2: you are. It's a whole process. What but I told you, 1180 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 2: are you serious? 1181 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: I know? 1182 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 9: I don't want to ask. So you know, it's been 1183 00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 9: a little a. 1184 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 2: Few weeks and I just need time. I just need time. 1185 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 2: So next Thursday, it looks like from noon until two 1186 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 2: we I think that's the frame that we're gonna go 1187 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 2: to this place. 1188 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 4: We'll go together. I'm gonna do something with them as well. 1189 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 2: But so we were gonna do your series first called 1190 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 2: Breaking ninety, and it'll be a six part series of 1191 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 2: you trying to literally break ninety. 1192 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 11: I love it, did not know bones. If he doesn't 1193 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 11: break ninety back, we're breaking ninety. Yeah, Edie, Eddie, We're 1194 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 11: breaking ninety. Okay, we're gonna break eighty. We're getting all 1195 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,399 Speaker 11: the way down. 1196 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 4: Cobra. 1197 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 2: They've been awesome for me, They've been great to me. 1198 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 2: I actually love my clubs, and so they're gonna hook 1199 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 2: you up with the clubs. They're gonna be one of 1200 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,399 Speaker 2: our main sponsors. Actually, there are only spots. We didn't 1201 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 2: ask anybody. Oh I'm a Puma Cobra Gray myself. 1202 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't even We weren't even like, hey, give 1203 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 4: us any money. I was just like, hey, we're gonna 1204 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 4: do this. 1205 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 2: Can you hooks up a clubs for Kevin? What they 1206 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 2: were like, Yeah, no problem. 1207 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 9: I love Cobra, love Poom, you do the best. 1208 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, if you're listening to this, go get some Cobra, 1209 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 8: Puma everything. 1210 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 2: Alright, Now that doesn't seem real, dude, it's gonna look 1211 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 2: too hard. So Kevin's gonna do Breaking ninety and then 1212 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do Breaking eighty eventually. 1213 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 4: If not at the same time. We only have one 1214 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:13,760 Speaker 4: read that's the problem. 1215 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 2: Do one video, guy, So uh, Eddie, just think if 1216 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 2: you were here, Wow, wow. 1217 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 3: Mine would be breaking seventy. 1218 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 9: Okay, okay. 1219 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 4: So that's the announcement. 1220 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: So next Thursday, you got to free your afternoon because 1221 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna go get it all done. 1222 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 7: Love it. 1223 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,280 Speaker 4: Thank you with the fitter from Cobra. 1224 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 3: Thank you. 1225 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 4: All right, this is very exciting. 1226 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to Rob Parker, who's one of my 1227 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 2: favorite sports radio guys. I listened to him on Fox 1228 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. He's the host of Inside the Rob Parker, 1229 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 2: It's podcast on the Colin Cowhard podcast Network. He's an 1230 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 2: MLB analyst. He's a founder and editor of mlbbro dot com. 1231 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 2: He's a Hall of Fame voter. Follow him on Instagram 1232 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 2: Rob Parker FSR. Here he is Rob Parker. Hey, Rob, 1233 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 2: how's it going? 1234 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,720 Speaker 5: I'm good, Bobby? 1235 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 7: How are you? Hey? 1236 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 4: I appreciate you. A big fan as well. You and Chris. 1237 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 2: You guys kill it over there, so appreciate you coming on. 1238 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 2: I got a lot of questions for Evan saving. I've 1239 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 2: been waiting for this moment, especially talking about baseball, because 1240 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 2: I want to know because I have thoughts. I think 1241 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 2: generally the pitch clock is warmly welcomed by fans. How 1242 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 2: did you feel about it when they announced it versus 1243 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,760 Speaker 2: how it feels now? 1244 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 5: Definitely wasn't a fan of it. I just thought it 1245 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 5: was catering to non baseball fans, that people who don't 1246 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 5: like the game, who want it to be over it 1247 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 5: before it even starts. But I have to admit that 1248 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 5: it has. I thought it would shave five or ten 1249 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,240 Speaker 5: minutes off the game, but twenty six to thirty minutes 1250 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 5: is significant, and I think that it's it hasn't altered 1251 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 5: the game to where I'm like, well, what is this? 1252 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 5: This is like not baseball. It actually is still the 1253 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 5: same game, just at a better pace. 1254 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 2: And I think two, if they had never told me 1255 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 2: there was a pitch clock and I was just watching 1256 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 2: the game, I don't know that I would know anything 1257 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 2: was different. Just if I'm watching, it would just feel 1258 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 2: like a game that was moving pretty good. I don't 1259 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 2: know that I would be like something's fishy here. Do 1260 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 2: you feel like you would know it if they didn't tell. 1261 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 5: Us, Yeah, I agree. It just seems like the pace 1262 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 5: is faster. I mean, I wasn't that happy when we 1263 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 5: had early on back to back days where Mandy Machado 1264 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 5: was kicked out for you know, for giving the umpire 1265 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 5: lip and then the next day Tim Anderson. Now we're 1266 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 5: throwing stars out of the game over the pitch clock. 1267 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 5: Then I'm not happy about it. That's not good for 1268 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 5: the game. And I think the umpires should work with 1269 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 5: these veteran players, you know, so that they can adjust 1270 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 5: to it. Younger players have used it in the minor league, 1271 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 5: so they're more used to it. I just don't want 1272 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 5: to see stars thrown out of the game over the 1273 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 5: pitch clock. 1274 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 2: When you talk about stars, I start thinking about, you know, 1275 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 2: kind of the Mount rushmore of the big stars right now, 1276 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 2: and Otani is probably, I mean, in my mind, the 1277 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 2: best player in the Major League right now. What's the 1278 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 2: gap between him and number two? Or do you think 1279 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 2: or do you even think he's number one? 1280 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 5: Well, he's a unicorn, so yeah, he's going to be 1281 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 5: considered number one because of that. He's able to do 1282 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 5: two things pitch at a high level and obviously slug 1283 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 5: and hit at a high level. I mean, you know, ultimately, 1284 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 5: you know, is he going to win the cy Young 1285 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 5: and the MVP both? And I think we can really 1286 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 5: look at it and say he's the greatest player who 1287 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 5: ever played, period and end the debate or conversation. We're 1288 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 5: not there yet, but I will push back on the 1289 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 5: people think that Otani should be the MVP every year regardless. 1290 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 5: I don't believe that. I think there has to be 1291 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 5: a context to someone's season. Yes, he's doing something that's incredible, 1292 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 5: but there was no doubt in my mind that Aaron 1293 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 5: Judge was the American League MVP. He played in a 1294 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 5: meaningful games all year long. The Angel season was over 1295 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 5: in May, and I'm not saying that Oldtani's still, you know, 1296 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 5: not facing competition or doing what he did, But there's 1297 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 5: a big difference when you're twenty games out and playing 1298 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,720 Speaker 5: for the division in September. There's just a big difference 1299 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 5: in how you approach your bats in the game and 1300 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 5: you know the pressure level that's involved. 1301 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 4: Do you feel like he goes once he hits free agency? 1302 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 2: Do you feel like he goes back to the Angels 1303 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 2: like if you heard if he's happy not happy? 1304 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 4: And do you feel like he could be the first 1305 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,919 Speaker 4: half billion dollar guy? 1306 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 5: I think that half billion is the starting point. It 1307 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 5: could be even more than that. And you got to 1308 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,959 Speaker 5: remember it's not just what he does for the team 1309 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 5: and in the United States. I mean he's an international guy. 1310 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 5: In the WBC, when Japan played in the finals, one 1311 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 5: hundred million people in Japan watched the game. Now, what 1312 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 5: is that worth for Jersey sales? All kinds of other 1313 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 5: things that are going to happen when people take vacations 1314 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 5: wherever he's playing, he's on their itinerary. When I saw 1315 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,879 Speaker 5: it in New York when I worked at news Day 1316 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 5: and Matt Sewet played for the Yankees. You know, you 1317 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 5: saw all the Japanese signs on the stadium walls all 1318 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 5: over Yankee Stadium, and you know when people came on 1319 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 5: vacation in New York, going to Yankee Stadium was on 1320 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 5: the itinerary, like going to the Empire State Building and 1321 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,720 Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff. So he generates so much money. 1322 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,720 Speaker 5: I say, that's a minimum bid of five hundred million, 1323 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,320 Speaker 5: it might be six. 1324 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 4: Hundred that's well go. 1325 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 2: And does it matter to a guy like Otani that 1326 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 2: California is closer to Japan than say Milwaukee, or even 1327 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,280 Speaker 2: in New York because it's another four five hours flight. 1328 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 2: Does that factor in it all? 1329 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 5: I mean, he wanted to come to California from Jump Street, 1330 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 5: but I don't know if that's changed. Maybe he says, 1331 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 5: and the people talk to him, say, wearing the pinstripes 1332 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 5: like Matt Suey wore, and you know all the great 1333 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 5: baseball players, and your star would be even bigger in 1334 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 5: New York or Los Angeles. You know, I think it's 1335 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 5: going to be between the bigger markets New York, Los Angeles. 1336 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 5: It could be the Mets could be the Yankees could 1337 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 5: be the Dodgers, maybe Chicago, but I don't see it. 1338 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 5: I think those are really the three teams other than 1339 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 5: the Angels that have the inside track. 1340 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Hall of Fame, as you were 1341 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame voter, and Bonds, Maguire, Sosa, those 1342 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 2: three guys specifically all because of pds. They're in that conversation, 1343 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 2: but they were the greatest in their day. Do you 1344 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 2: feel like they should be in the Hall of Fame? 1345 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 5: Absolutely. I voted for them every year on the ballot. 1346 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 5: I just I have a harder time. First of all, 1347 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 5: none of those guys you mentioned ever were suspended for peds. 1348 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,720 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that they didn't use it. I'm not naive, Bobby, Okay, 1349 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 5: I'm not naive. It was well used during that era 1350 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 5: by a lot of players, some who got caught. Remember 1351 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 5: there's a Mitchell report out there of one hundred and 1352 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 5: fifty missing names, hidden names that we don't know. I 1353 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 5: think some of those guys are in the Hall of Fame. 1354 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 5: And I can't sit here and say Pudge was under suspicion. Suspicion, 1355 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 5: Jeff Bagwell was under suspicion, Mike Piazza was under suspicion 1356 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 5: and they were all in the Hall of Fame. So 1357 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 5: what are we doing here. Either everybody's out or you 1358 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 5: put people in. Now, if you got busted by baseball 1359 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 5: once they changed the rules, like a Manny Ramirez or 1360 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 5: a Rafael Palmero, those guys got busted. Those guys, I 1361 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 5: understand if a writer doesn't want to vote them in, 1362 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 5: But the other guys, you can't tell me. Bond's won 1363 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 5: three MVP before he even went to San Francisco and 1364 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 5: started with experimenting with the juice. Same thing, Roger Clements. 1365 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 5: Go watch the video tape when he was in Boston 1366 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 5: and won three side youngs and he was skinny as 1367 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 5: a rail. Mark McGuire got screwed as well. Mark McGuire 1368 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 5: hit forty nine home runs his rookie year. Go watch 1369 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 5: the tape, Bobby, go look and see how big Hee was. 1370 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 5: This guy was a home run hitter at USC when 1371 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 5: he was in college. He didn't take the juice and 1372 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 5: become a home run hitter overnight. So I think people 1373 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 5: who think that it's just that and that's what made 1374 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 5: these guys great are missing the boat. And the other 1375 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 5: part is we seem to want to punish the hitters 1376 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 5: more than anybody. But Bobby, do your research. More pictures 1377 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 5: have been busted on juice than hitters, which tells you 1378 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 5: that Bonds was probably facing a lot of guys on 1379 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 5: juice when he did his thing. 1380 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 4: Pete Rose different but the same. 1381 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 5: What do you got, no way, no how, Pete Rose, 1382 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 5: It's a different era. You can't go back back then. 1383 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 5: Gambling note was prosada non grada. The biggest sign in 1384 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 5: the clubhouse all over America was if you gambling, you're 1385 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 5: going to be banned from the game. Pete lied about 1386 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 5: it for fourteen years. I think if Pete would have 1387 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 5: been honest from day one, asked for apologize, ask for forgiveness, 1388 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 5: he would be in the Hall of Fame. But he 1389 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 5: lied for fourteen years. They had all the goods on him. 1390 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 5: And then when they you know, tried to you know, 1391 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 5: get up back in their game, then he wrote a 1392 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 5: book saying that he did it to try to make money. 1393 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 5: I think Pete Rose, he sabotazes his way back in 1394 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 5: the hall. Baseball would love to have him in the 1395 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 5: Baseball Hall of Fame. But Pete's his own worst enemy. 1396 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 5: So I don't see Pete getting it. 1397 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 4: What about after he dies? 1398 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 5: He's no, I don't. He's already in the Hall of Fame. 1399 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,439 Speaker 5: Have you been to Cooperstown? Pete roses everywhere, He's all 1400 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 5: over Cooperstown. But I don't I don't think he'll have 1401 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 5: a play. 1402 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 2: Let's switch it up to the NBA playoffs, the Lakers ceiling. 1403 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 2: What do you think it is? 1404 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 5: Second round? I think they you know, I mean Game 1405 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 5: one was a great start. When you get twenty nine 1406 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 5: points from a bench player and you shoot fifty four 1407 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 5: percent from the field and forty five percent from three 1408 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 5: on a road playoff game, you're going to win that. 1409 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 5: And now John Moran, you know, has he heard? Is 1410 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 5: he not going to play? Or how effective will he be? 1411 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 5: So they have a chance there. But I just think 1412 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 5: the other teams. I think everybody has discounted the Denver 1413 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 5: Chicken Nuggets. Everybody thinks that they're no good and what 1414 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 5: they did all year. I think people are now surprised 1415 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 5: about the Sacramento Kings, and they've played well all year. 1416 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 5: And people thought that the Golden State Warriors, who were 1417 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 5: terrible on the road, were just gonna flip a switch 1418 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 5: and start winning like like there's nobody's business and that 1419 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 5: hasn't happened. So obviously Phoenix lost Game one to the Clippers. 1420 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 5: They're formidable, and the Clippers have beaten the Lakers like 1421 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 5: eleven straight times and thirty five out of the last 1422 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 5: forty some ridiculous number, because they match up well against 1423 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 5: the Lakers. So if they were to meet, I would 1424 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 5: take the Clippers. So I don't think they're going to 1425 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 5: get past the second round. 1426 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 2: You don't think Reeves and Hetchmeror are going to be 1427 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 2: consistently awesome all playoffs? 1428 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 5: Uh no, I'm not finding that. They played unbelievable. You 1429 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 5: know that. 1430 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. 1431 01:00:58,720 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 3: I listen. 1432 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 4: I bought him. I bought him. I'm gonna admit it. 1433 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 7: I bought him. 1434 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 4: I'm still buying him. I want to talk about Kevin 1435 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 4: Durant though. 1436 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 2: If he wins another championship, where do you think that 1437 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 2: or does it take him any higher in the all 1438 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 2: time grades? 1439 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 5: I do if you can move, you know, move on 1440 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 5: and win a championship. Remember the Suns went without Kevin Durant, 1441 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 5: they weren't able to win. He would be the mister 1442 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 5: fixer upper, like when the Warriors choked down that three 1443 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 5: to one lead to the Cavs on Lebron Kevin Durant 1444 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 5: went there. They won two straight championships. You know, they 1445 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 5: lost the next one where he was hurt and didn't play, 1446 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 5: So he got a lot of credit for that, and 1447 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 5: he would get a lot of credit for this if 1448 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 5: he was able to get there. I don't know if 1449 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 5: they've had enough time together to gel and make it work. 1450 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 5: They might not have enough on the fence to beat 1451 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 5: the Clippers. I like the Clippers a lot. I think 1452 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,919 Speaker 5: they're ten deep. I think ty lewis a fantastic coach. 1453 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 5: Living in la I've gotten to watch him more and more. 1454 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 5: I think he's tremendous. 1455 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 2: Final question, just kind of about your home, the Lions. 1456 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 2: What Campbell's doing up there. Do you feel more bullish 1457 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 2: than you ever have? 1458 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 5: No? You know what I need to see this year. 1459 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 5: One year is not enough we've seen in the NFL. 1460 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 5: I mean, everybody's celebrating in Detroit. They were nine and seven, right, 1461 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 5: nine and eight, and they did make the playoffs. So 1462 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,919 Speaker 5: let's see if you could take that to the next 1463 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 5: year and actually improve and make the playoffs. If they 1464 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 5: do that, then they have something going if they fall 1465 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 5: back and it's back to the same old Lions football. 1466 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 5: I mean, this is a franchise that has one playoff 1467 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 5: win since nineteen fifty seven, and that was nineteen ninety one. 1468 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 5: It's been a long time in coming. So they got 1469 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 5: to put together more than a random one season where things, 1470 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 5: you know, were better than they normally are. We need 1471 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 5: to see two or three of them and then I 1472 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 5: believe they're on the right track. 1473 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 2: As I mentioned earlier, he has the site mlbbro dot com. 1474 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 2: He's a founder and editor. He's an MLB Network analyst. 1475 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 2: Inside the Rob Parker is the podcast on Cowhurt's podcast network, 1476 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 2: Inside the Rob Parker, But where I hear him is 1477 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 2: the Odd Couple of Christmas. 1478 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 4: Are you everywhere? You're right here. 1479 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 2: I appreciate you, big fan, Rob, and hopefully we'll talk 1480 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 2: to you soon. 1481 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 5: All right, Bobby, thank you so much. We'll talk again, 1482 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 5: see you, buddy. 1483 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks to Rob for coming on, and let's get 1484 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 2: over to our final thoughts. First of all, the stories 1485 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 2: the Grids beat the Lakers last night one oh three 1486 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:23,439 Speaker 2: ninety three. 1487 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 4: I was an idiot. I was like, there's no way 1488 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 4: that the Laker's gonna run without jaw. 1489 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1490 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 4: You know, we talked about villains earlier. 1491 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 5: Man. 1492 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 2: You know, there's a kind of a relationship I have 1493 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 2: with people that annoy me in sports, and it goes 1494 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 2: from they're annoying, shut out, nobody cares too. 1495 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 4: I don't think I like them too. I hate him. Two, Okay, 1496 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 4: that's funny. 1497 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 7: Two. 1498 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 2: You know what, I like him and I've done this. 1499 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 2: I mean, Dylan Brooks is that guy right now, hilarious, 1500 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 2: like just going app going at Lebron. He's like, I 1501 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 2: don't care, He's like he's old that. I mean, he 1502 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 2: talks cap to everybody. And I'm starting to go positive. 1503 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks. I didn't. 1504 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 7: I didn't like him at all. 1505 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm starting to be But I love Pat Bev, I 1506 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 2: love Draymond Green. Dylan Brooks good in there like he 1507 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 2: just I guess I like. 1508 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 4: It because he's consistent with it. 1509 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 9: I agree. 1510 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 2: As long as you're consistent and you're not just a 1511 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 2: fair weather trash talker when times are good, if you're 1512 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 2: just gonna go and that's just you, I'm okay with that. 1513 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 4: I'm down. 1514 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 7: I love Dyaling. 1515 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks is good. 1516 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 9: It's entertaining for me h. 1517 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 2: So you know, him and Lebron went at it and 1518 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 2: I want to play this for you. This is Dylan 1519 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 2: Brooks and they were talking about the game afterward. 1520 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 3: Here we go. 1521 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 7: I don't care. He's old, you know what I mean. 1522 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 5: That's I was waiting for that. I respect him to 1523 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 5: do that. Game four, Game five. He wanted to say 1524 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 5: something when. 1525 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 2: I got my four file, and then he went on 1526 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,919 Speaker 2: to say he won't respect Lebron until he scores forty 1527 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 2: against him. 1528 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 5: I pulled bears. 1529 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 3: I don't respect no one until they come and give 1530 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 3: me forty. 1531 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,919 Speaker 2: He's got the white glasses on, he got the dB 1532 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 2: chain on, he got I mean, he's so it that 1533 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 2: I'm into it now. 1534 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1535 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 4: So I'm not rooting for the grid for the Lakers. 1536 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 7: Bye. 1537 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 2: I kind of love that you got three games tonight, 1538 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 2: Sixers and nets, Kings and Warriors. Sacramento's up two. Oh, 1539 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 2: but they are going back to Golden State, Uh Phoenix 1540 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 2: and the Clippers and that is at one to one. 1541 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 2: All right, Final thoughts, Final thoughts of the show. We 1542 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 2: had a good one though today, thanks to our guests 1543 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 2: for stopping. Buy is a really good one. 1544 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 8: Kevin, Mine is a shout out and a good luck 1545 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 8: actually to Mike d this weekend running that marathon and 1546 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 8: everybody else out here in national running the marathon. I've 1547 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 8: done half a couple of times and that is brutal. 1548 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 8: So Mike, good luck and kudos to you man. 1549 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 9: Thanks, I'm ready. 1550 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 2: It's like a Sunday at three pm and Mike's like, 1551 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 2: just did a run and you look at his he 1552 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 2: doesn't talk about his uh They're call him breaks splits, yeah, splits. 1553 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 2: And it's like eighteen miles at eight point oh eight 1554 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 2: a mon. I'm like, you know, an eight minute miles 1555 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 2: for that long. It's crazy. The runner Mike is just 1556 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 2: quietly too, but everything he does is quiet. 1557 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 4: But I did mean a guy. 1558 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 2: It's like, I'm running the marathon this weekend. I was like, okay, 1559 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 2: I've been trying so hard for it. But it was 1560 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 2: actually the half marathon, and I feel like you have 1561 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 2: to say the word half. 1562 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 4: If you're running the halfway, you gotta say half. 1563 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1564 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,640 Speaker 2: It's a difference, absolutely yeah. And he kept talking about 1565 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 2: how he's gonna run. He was, he was doing the marathon, 1566 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 2: and I think maybe by him going doing it, he 1567 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 2: was doing the marathon. 1568 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,439 Speaker 4: But I knew he was doing the half. 1569 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 2: You have to put that word half in there, even 1570 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 2: if you try to get arounded by saying do in 1571 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 2: the marathon, if you run the half, say the half. 1572 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 4: And that's a big deal. Most of it runs ten 1573 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 4: miles of the time. 1574 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,439 Speaker 2: I've never done a half marathon, but otherwise I'm gonna 1575 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 2: think you're run over twenty. 1576 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you have to say half. 1577 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 2: I want to say something to him about and I 1578 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 2: ain't care that much, but yeah, might kill it, buddy. 1579 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,480 Speaker 2: My final thought is for Reid, who's here and runs 1580 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 2: our cameras. And I gave Read little crap because I 1581 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 2: saw I shot thirty over the other day. But Reid 1582 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 2: also played high school golf and I've seen him play 1583 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 2: pretty good before, and he shot thirty over. Eddie and 1584 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 2: I went to play the Vanderbilt course yesterday and I 1585 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 2: shot like twenty over, and I was like, I deserve to. 1586 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 4: Have crap talked about me like I did. Read played 1587 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 4: pretty terrible. 1588 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 2: It is the first time I got to play a 1589 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 2: full round in months, because the last few times I've played, 1590 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 2: it's rained on us every time. 1591 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 4: Four in a row. 1592 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 2: We went four times in a row and it rained 1593 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 2: us out every time. Really, Jordan Davis and I try 1594 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 2: to go play. We played two holes and it rained 1595 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 2: us out. We went for my birthday to chattanoogat we 1596 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 2: played a few holes, at Rain had to get in 1597 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 2: the truck, played a few holes, at Rain had to 1598 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 2: get in the truck. I had to go center. So 1599 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 2: it was the first time we had played. That's an excuse, absolutely, 1600 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 2: I just gonna let everybody know that's an excuse. 1601 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 7: I'm with it. 1602 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, over twenty and we talked about golf earlier 1603 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 2: with Kevin and Eddie, but over I shot twenty overreads, 1604 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 2: So okay, that's worse than bogie golf. And I don't 1605 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 2: apologize for what I said to you, but I just 1606 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 2: want you to know I also played terrible. So we're 1607 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 2: in that same boat together. It's okay, It's okay, that's 1608 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 2: my thought. All right, Thank you guys, We really appreciate it. 1609 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,720 Speaker 2: We got Dane Brugo coming up on Monday, who's basically 1610 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 2: built the biggest NFL Draft guide that the world's ever seen. 1611 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 2: And we'll talk to the NFL Draft on Monday or 1612 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 2: Tuesday whenever we do the show next week, and then 1613 01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 2: the draft is next week as well, So thank you guys. 1614 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 2: Follow us at twenty five Whistles and We'll see us soon. 1615 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 5: Bye. 1616 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 2: Buddy theme song written by Bobby Bones and performed by 1617 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 2: Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. 1618 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 2: Thanks to our crew segment producer at Kickoff Kevin, Video 1619 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 2: producer at reed Yarberry, and executive producer at Mike Diestro. 1620 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 2: The most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. 1621 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:24,840 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.