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Speaker 1: Huge pod.

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Speaker 2: Today we got coach Bo Polini on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I don't apologize for you. I don't apologize anybody.

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Speaker 3: The most, the most decorated coach we've ever had. In

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Speaker 3: the podcast, what's one of.

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Speaker 1: Your crazier recruiting stories? Tell the porn one.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about your experience as well, like recruiting him

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Speaker 3: no offense? But is this guy douche?

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Speaker 1: So you think you'll ever coach college again? I think

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Speaker 1: signing days Absin said, we come to the sideline and

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Speaker 1: Bo's just fuman.

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Speaker 4: I mean, now, all the years you've known me, do

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Speaker 4: you think that I would pay a letter?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not in this chair without all of

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Speaker 1: that stuff, without all of those hard teachings.

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Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, Deonne had him by basically by

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Speaker 4: the throat, up against the wall, saying.

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Speaker 2: One weekday morning I have a miscall from Bo at

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Speaker 2: like six in the morning.

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Speaker 4: Play Virginia Attack. They turn around. I look at him

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Speaker 4: and he's looking to be and I said.

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Speaker 1: You ready to go? And he's like, hm, well didn't

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Speaker 1: you like when you were there? What do you thought

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Speaker 1: Bo could have done better at Nebraska?

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Speaker 2: If I could speak candidly? Okay, welcome to another episode

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Speaker 2: of Busting with the Boys. I am your host Will Compton,

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Speaker 2: my co host Harol Lawan. He's not here for these

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Speaker 2: for this intro and these ads I'm gonna be reading

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Speaker 2: in the episode the Boys at training Camp. We're dropping

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Speaker 2: the bau Polini podcast. This podcast is incredible. Coach bo

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Speaker 2: Polini for those of you who don't know who he is,

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Speaker 2: he was my head coach at Nebraska from years two

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Speaker 2: thousand and eight to twenty and thirteen. He was at Nebraska

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Speaker 2: from two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: Man he was only there.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I was there from twousand and eight twenty twelve,

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Speaker 2: and then he was there from two thousand and eight

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. But he's made stops. He's been in the

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Speaker 2: coaching world. A very respected coach, highly regarded. Had a

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Speaker 2: rough year this past year as a decorner at LSU

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Speaker 2: building an insurance policy. It was during a pandemic. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I love coach Posta. Please don't talk too

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Speaker 2: mainly about him ever, but this was an awesome podcast.

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Speaker 1: It was. It's really it was. It was.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome because the last time I had sat down

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Speaker 2: with coach bow and talked to him was probably in

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Speaker 2: twenty and thirteen when I went back my rookie year

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Speaker 2: and I hadn't seen him since, So we played golf.

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Speaker 2: As you're listening to this podcast, I played golf with

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Speaker 2: Bow the day before, and then we went out to

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Speaker 2: Bourbon no free shout outs to Bourbon out in Nashville,

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Speaker 2: and we had dinner and everything.

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Speaker 1: He brought us son Patrick along with him, But.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome catching up to him, catching up with

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Speaker 2: him and Coach bo is single handedly the most important

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Speaker 2: coach that I've had throughout my career because of what

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Speaker 2: he's about and what the philosophies he teaches to his

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Speaker 2: players when it comes to focusing on the process, compete

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Speaker 2: every day. Anybody who's been who's my teammate at Nebraska

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Speaker 2: listening to this podcast, which I'm sure everybody is, probably chuckles,

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Speaker 2: because that's all he was ever about is the process.

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Speaker 2: And he just talks about the type of person you

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Speaker 2: are and the character you are, and you just don't

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Speaker 2: You just don't come across a lot of people like

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Speaker 2: Coach bo Plini anymore. He's somebody who knows who he is,

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Speaker 2: he knows what he's about, he knows what he wants

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Speaker 2: to teach. We get into a lot of fun topics

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Speaker 2: with NIL coming out, if he wants to coach college

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Speaker 2: football again, if he would want to coach again, what

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Speaker 2: NIL stuff, and we talked about his time at LSU.

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Speaker 2: We talked about obviously, we took a deep dive into

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Speaker 2: Nebraska the bad breakup, which I alluded to, and also

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Speaker 2: Taylor asked, you know, if there were negatives of coach bo,

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Speaker 2: what I thought, what I would say he could get

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Speaker 2: better at. And so I talk candidly as well as

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Speaker 2: what I think he could be better at. So it's

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Speaker 2: an awesome It was an awesome podcast. This could possibly

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Speaker 2: be another Mount Bus Moore just throw that around every time,

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Speaker 1: Another Mount Bus more.

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Speaker 2: But if you're watching, listening, whatever, hey, please subscribe. If

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Speaker 2: The Boys will be hosting a watch party tailgate the

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Speaker 2: third preseason game is at the third preseason game, the

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Speaker 2: last home game. I know there's only three preseason games,

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Speaker 2: but when the Titans play the Bears on August twenty eighth,

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Speaker 2: there will be a watch party tailgate at ACME, Feed

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Speaker 2: and Seed, So the Boys will be slinging merch.

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Speaker 1: If I'm still unemployed.

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Speaker 2: I will be there with you all and rooting for

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Speaker 2: the Boys, because obviously if since I'm not playing for

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Speaker 2: anybody yet, I will be for the Boys until I die.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so join us to act me anything else,

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Speaker 2: buy our merch. It's awesome. We have some new shit

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Speaker 2: coming out, A new ship's been dropping. They're better be flags, dude,

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Speaker 2: I know Nissan Stadium. Hey, how much up percentage wise

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Speaker 2: is our tickets? Or is a stat that came out?

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Speaker 2: Since twenty nineteen, Nebraska ticket sales have skyrocketed sixty something percent.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee ticket sales have scott what did I say?

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Speaker 1: Nebraska? Oh my bad?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yea yeah, Well in nebrask have been sold

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Speaker 2: Tennessee's ticket sales of skyrocketed sixty something percent. You know what,

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Speaker 2: gonna say that fact we started in twenty nineteen, ticket

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Speaker 2: putting these graphics up. The Boys flags also busting with

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 2: Uh, there was a couple last year, but obviously with

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Speaker 2: should be at least one hundred flags. So go buy

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Speaker 2: the flags at barstool store dot barstoolsports dot com. You

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Speaker 2: this episode. This episode is brought to you and presented

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Speaker 2: by the Chevy Silverado.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're finally rolling though now, so hold on before

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Speaker 1: but give Dobson to Mike. What are you doing here? Dom?

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Speaker 3: You just want to you just this is the second time. Hey, no,

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Speaker 3: we got a mic now for you, Dobson. Give us

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Speaker 3: your your name, your age, where you're from, and an

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Speaker 3: interesting fact about you. Just listen to the pod.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's none of those things.

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Speaker 2: That's perfect, James Dobson. So we have Bo Polini on

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Speaker 2: the podcast. Hey, let's give a everyone's fired.

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Speaker 3: After the most Hey, the most decorated coach we've ever

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, by far the whole coach.

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Speaker 2: And James Dobson, who sitting in the back was Dobson's

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Speaker 1: So we were all at Nebraska together. But we're a

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Speaker 1: little out numbered now. Yeah, you got kind of here.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like you could have been a part.

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Speaker 1: I could have. I really could have. I was just

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Speaker 2: And we were at dinner last night and he was

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Speaker 2: he was talking about we went to Bourbon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and you like bourbon. Oh it was good, it

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Speaker 3: Nationals really kicked up the state game. Yeah, that check

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Speaker 2: I tried to.

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Speaker 1: Hey, he get them gator arms. Oh yeah, He's like

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Speaker 3: First put it out there. Yeah it will does He

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you sure, man, and he's like yeah.

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Speaker 1: Off about the other and the last one shout out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: We did the podcast yesterday. I think it was good

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Speaker 3: for about thirty minutes and then my gas really rolled out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's all. I wasn't a big fan of it.

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Speaker 1: You ruined a big fan of the pod.

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Speaker 2: No, the coffee, the coffee, so I'm always a fan

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Speaker 1: It was a good time. Yeah, when do you guys?

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Speaker 3: You guys are like part of this new general. You

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Speaker 3: guys like the ice coffee. I do like the ice coffee. Well,

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Speaker 3: when it's a hot when it's ninety degrees outside.

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Speaker 2: Hang on, let's you know. I don't want you to

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Speaker 2: label me too quickly. I'm a black coffee guy, all right.

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Speaker 2: In the mornings, I make a nice pot.

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Speaker 4: I don't mind it being a lotte, but it's got

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Speaker 4: to be hot if I'm a I don't. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm not a big ice coffee guy.

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Speaker 1: Not even in the summer heat. No, no really.

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Speaker 3: It was also the same guy that says the youth

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Speaker 3: is ruining, the every is runing the country type guy.

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Speaker 1: He's got philosophies, he starts these kids nowadays. Type of guy.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Does the mic need to be closer to him at all?

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Speaker 2: Blast are we good?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: But we were talking last night and he goes, what

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Speaker 2: were you saying about to I'm like, yo, did you

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Speaker 2: recruit Taylor? So oh yeah, he said he should have

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Speaker 2: came to Nebraska. And he goes, you're talking about just

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Speaker 2: how athletic he was back in heigh Sun Boil.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you weren't. You didn't. How much would you

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Speaker 3: I think the heaviest I ever got was in the

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Speaker 3: championship game in like two thirty. Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 3: We uh well, I mean, you don't know my story.

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Speaker 3: Just you came on. But I started playing off his

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Speaker 2: He's already told me about how he's been telling over

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Speaker 2: Go to a Chevy dealership, let him know the boy

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Speaker 3: in the eighties and nineties, it's okay to hang your

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Speaker 3: hat and be like these guys. Bo Schembecker was a

439
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Speaker 3: legend there. These guys are all legends. But you gotta

440
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Speaker 3: develop and grow like I mean, if you look at Alabama,

441
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Speaker 3: look at LSU two years ago, Oregon when Marcus Mariota

442
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Speaker 3: was there, it's like they were willing to have the

443
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Speaker 3: It's not about what the offense is, it's the players

444
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Speaker 3: around you, and you have to do that offense. Yeah,

445
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Speaker 3: and do that defense based on your personnelity just said good.

446
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Speaker 3: The whole groundwork it has changed.

447
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Speaker 4: I mean, the population is shifted, the recruitings different. You know,

448
00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,199
Speaker 4: there's I mean now, I mean back in the nineties,

449
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Speaker 4: you know, you know, eighties, nineties, whatever, maybe even early

450
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Speaker 4: two thousands. I mean, there was only a couple of

451
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Speaker 4: people were on TV every week. Yeah, I mean you knew,

452
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Speaker 4: I mean, Nebraska was going to be on Oklahoma, you know,

453
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Speaker 4: they were going to be certain teams on TV.

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Speaker 1: Now, I mean now you know, you're you got to go.

455
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Speaker 4: You got to compete in recruiting against you know, South Florida,

456
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Speaker 4: Central Florida, you know whatever, because everyone's on TV. So

457
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Speaker 4: a kid doesn't have to get on a plane and

458
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Speaker 4: fly three hours to go get on to play on TV.

459
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Speaker 4: He know, he used to go be on TV every

460
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Speaker 4: week almost. I mean that's just the way it works.

461
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Speaker 4: So it totally changes the recruiting landscape.

462
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Speaker 3: Yeah, when it comes to like college football on the

463
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Speaker 3: way and it seemed like there'd always be a shift

464
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Speaker 3: every five six years, like some team would be really

465
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Speaker 3: great and they'd go down, another team would come back up,

466
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Speaker 3: and it's kind of been stagnant with you know, SEC

467
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Speaker 3: is really dominated, but you have the Clemson, Bbama, Ohio States,

468
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Speaker 3: like those three teams kind of always really been in it,

469
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Speaker 3: and then there's everybody else. How do you think these

470
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Speaker 3: teams that are on the CUSP break through the and

471
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Speaker 3: break through that mold from going from a Tier two

472
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Speaker 3: and Tier two is like, you know, a top five team,

473
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Speaker 3: but not those three teams I just mentioned. How do

474
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Speaker 3: you think they get to that next level to where

475
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Speaker 3: they're also competing for you know, national championships every year.

476
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Speaker 4: You know they're they're going to have their years. I

477
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Speaker 4: mean like LSU had their year two years ago. I

478
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Speaker 4: mean you know they had I mean they had Joe Burrow,

479
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Speaker 4: I mean and they had you know, they had I

480
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Speaker 4: mean had some other great I mean they had what

481
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Speaker 4: seventeen something draft picks or whatever it was that year.

482
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Speaker 4: You know they're going to have their years, But you know,

483
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Speaker 4: it to be consistent. You know, it's you know, you're

484
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Speaker 4: going to look at the certain teams that are going

485
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Speaker 4: to be there almost every year because they're the ones

486
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Speaker 4: that have the recruiting base, and the other the teams

487
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Speaker 4: that maybe you're going to have, you know, once every

488
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Speaker 4: couple of years, they're gonna they're gonna make or run

489
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Speaker 4: those of the teams that probably don't have as strong

490
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Speaker 4: a recruiting base and as strong a tradition and culture,

491
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Speaker 4: you know, and it just becomes harder and harder, you

492
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Speaker 4: know what I mean. Ohio State, they you know a

493
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Speaker 4: lot of these schools that the ones that are there

494
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Speaker 4: almost every day.

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Speaker 1: Heck, they can recruit in the car, yeah, you know

496
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Speaker 1: what I mean, the phone call. Yeah. And it's just

497
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Speaker 1: the way the way it works. You know.

498
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Speaker 2: How hard was it coaching through a pandemic?

499
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Speaker 1: Oh? It was?

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Speaker 4: That was It was a crazy year, you know, I mean,

501
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Speaker 4: I I mean it was a crazy year. I mean,

502
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Speaker 4: you know, people you know, opting out schedules and I thought,

503
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Speaker 4: you know, I mean I thought the SEC I thought

504
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Speaker 4: we had LSU you know, managed it well. I mean,

505
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Speaker 4: but you know you're talking about it was just it

506
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Speaker 4: was just a different year. It was really crazy, and uh,

507
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Speaker 4: you know, it's good to see things getting back to normal.

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Speaker 4: Stadiums will get filled, you know, teams will have their

509
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Speaker 4: full rosters. And it was it was a you know,

510
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Speaker 4: you make the best I guess of a bad situation.

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Speaker 1: It was a bad situation.

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Speaker 2: What made it so tough at LSU because you obviously

513
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Speaker 2: came to Nebraska. You had the number one defense at

514
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Speaker 2: LSU for like years in a row, you're winning Natties.

515
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Speaker 1: You come on to.

516
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Speaker 4: BA but previously or last year, previously I was there

517
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Speaker 4: for three years, but then I went to Then I

518
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Speaker 4: got the head job at Nebraska, and he had.

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Speaker 2: Like the number one d in the country with LSU,

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Speaker 2: like those boys like Glenn Dorsey, they had dogs on

521
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Speaker 2: that squad. And then he comes to Nebraska and we're obviously,

522
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Speaker 2: you know, looking back now, a successful tenure at Nebraska,

523
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Speaker 2: and you go to Youngstown. You're obviously successful at Youngstown.

524
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Speaker 2: You're taking you're going into the playoffs and everything. And

525
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Speaker 2: then you go to LSU and you have a tough

526
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Speaker 2: year at LSU. When it's like Bo's back at LSU

527
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Speaker 2: and everyone knows the formula to win that you would

528
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Speaker 2: know that formula to win. What made it so tough? Well,

529
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Speaker 2: it was just.

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Speaker 1: A weird year, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean you put in a new defense and you

532
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Speaker 4: don't really you know, you're trying to do things on zoom.

533
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Speaker 4: You don't have as much access to your guys. We

534
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Speaker 4: had a you know, some guys opt out. I mean

535
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Speaker 4: they lost a lot of guys from the National Championship game.

536
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Speaker 4: We had some team we had we lost, had some

537
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Speaker 4: guys opt out. You know, you have injuries and things

538
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Speaker 4: like that. Was just a weird year.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: We kind of finished the year pretty good, but you know,

541
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Speaker 4: it was a whole new team and just didn't work out,

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Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I mean as simple as that,

543
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Speaker 4: you know, I mean it was for I think there's

544
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Speaker 4: a lot of reasons, but you know me, I'm not

545
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Speaker 4: the kind of guy to ever make excuses. We didn't

546
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Speaker 4: get it done, and you know, so it was you know,

547
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Speaker 4: that's just the way that the way the business works.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: You you know, things don't work out for it doesn't

550
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Speaker 4: matter what the reasons are.

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Speaker 1: You know, time to move on.

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Speaker 2: the fairway. Hey, how was the most improved yesterday? Really?

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Speaker 1: Yes, bro?

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy he I dribbled one off the team

592
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Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna allow us a

593
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Speaker 1: That's why I invited Corey.

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Speaker 2: He's like, let's play around the golf, and I know

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Speaker 2: Bo's get a golf he goes it. No, I think

597
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Speaker 2: he's a sandbagger. And because anytime we go to bowl games,

598
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Speaker 2: you know, he's always on the course and stuff like that.

599
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Speaker 1: Like he's good at golf. He likes to go on there,

600
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Speaker 1: he likes to he likes to dapple. He's got to

601
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Speaker 1: set the clubs, you know what I mean a pair.

602
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Speaker 2: So yeah, guy, And so I hit Corey up. I'm like, hey,

603
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Speaker 2: you want to go golfing? Uh with my old head

604
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: coach on it. He's like, oh yeah, what time? And

605
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: so we set it up and stuff and we go

606
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Speaker 2: and I'm a little nervous, like you know, I'm like, fuck,

607
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Speaker 2: these days are probably all. I know Corey's good and

608
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Speaker 2: I know Bo's, yeah, Court's pretty good. So I dribble

609
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Speaker 2: one off the tea and you know, don't really hit

610
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Speaker 2: it far at all. And then he's like, oh no,

611
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Speaker 2: Bo's like, oh no, hit another one. I'm like, okay,

612
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Speaker 2: you're being nicer to me now than you know from

613
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Speaker 2: what I remember.

614
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Speaker 1: And uh, I put it.

615
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Speaker 2: I put another one on the tee and just slice it,

616
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Speaker 2: like I mean, just out of playing.

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Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I'm telling like over, yeah, exactly. Shot.

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Speaker 2: Oh bro, it's incredible now. I immediately like, I'm like

619
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Speaker 2: looking back at bow like that. Yeah, You're like, hey,

620
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Speaker 2: you just want to be proud of you. I was like,

621
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Speaker 2: maybe maybe if you haven't seen you in years. Yeah,

622
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to know, I said. He starts, you know,

623
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Speaker 2: coaching me nicely, and I'm like, hey, maybe if you

624
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Speaker 2: yell at me like you know, like the old days,

625
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Speaker 2: like on a big run or a gas run or

626
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Speaker 2: something like that, maybe we'll get something going.

627
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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll start rocking.

628
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Speaker 2: But no, he had some good tips and I I

629
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Speaker 2: think I made you proud.

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Speaker 1: You most improved. He didn't say yes very well. You know,

631
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Speaker 1: he was the first one.

632
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Speaker 4: You know, you know what he does when he swings

633
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Speaker 4: the club. You know, most people look up to watch

634
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 4: their ball like he he swings hits the ball and

635
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Speaker 4: looks back at us, me, my son Patrick, who's back here.

636
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Speaker 4: He played with us Corey le Patrick. And yes, the

637
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Speaker 4: first thing he does is he swings hits the ball,

638
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 4: he looks behind him. I'm like, no one else that

639
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 4: ever just never played the sport of golf does that.

640
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: He just wants the approval.

641
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm definitely getting like a Dale Earn hard Dale

642
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Speaker 3: and heard Junior by between the two of you, Yeah,

643
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Speaker 3: like he I just want you to be proud of me.

644
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Speaker 1: He goes, well, most improved. Didn't say yes, right, didn't

645
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Speaker 1: say that you.

646
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Speaker 2: Want none of that stuff. It's just you know, focus

647
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Speaker 2: on the process, compete every day.

648
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. It's your favorite quote. Why is

649
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Speaker 1: that your favorite quote?

650
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Speaker 4: I you know, I just something I've always talked about,

651
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Speaker 4: you know, back when I was a decordinator. I think

652
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: it really started when kind of when I started running

653
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: the defense, and I mean years ago, and because you know,

654
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: it's that's what we do, that's what we talk about

655
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 4: the you know, day in day out. You know, everybody

656
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 4: wants to talk about goals and I want to get here.

657
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, can you keep putting every day?

658
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: Like do what you got to do today? I mean,

659
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 4: forget about tomorrow. I mean, you know, I always use

660
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 4: the quote, you know, the or talk about the fact

661
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 4: that everybody wants things to happen. You gotta want to

662
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 4: do the things that make those things happen. And that's

663
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 4: the hard part. That's you know, every we all want

664
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: things happen, but you know, you got to do things

665
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: you don't want to do to make that happen. And

666
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 4: that's that's the process. And a lot of people to

667
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 4: never figure that out, especially players.

668
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: People in general have a hard time with that. Everyone

669
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: sees the that classic tip of the Iceberg picture with

670
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: his success and then there is the job. Yeah, and

671
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: it's all the things you have to do to get

672
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: to that success. So football players, athletes, there's.

673
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: One thing to talk about.

674
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 4: You got to live it, and you gotta believe you

675
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: truly believe in a lot of people don't believe in it.

676
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: I mean, can you do it every day?

677
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: You know?

678
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: I mean, are you gonna can you check that box

679
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: every day? And you know, for really? Over what do

680
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: we talk about it every day? Overcome human nature?

681
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: Right?

682
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: That's hard to do. Everyone talks about it, you know,

683
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 4: but you know, you you got to live it.

684
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: Seems like you're a hell of a pregame speech guy.

685
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: Dobson's not bad Dobson.

686
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 3: You know he's got that little coffee bean. I was

687
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: going to bring up the coffee go ahead. He had

688
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: a solid one with the coffee bean.

689
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: Was it.

690
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: It's a it's a pee of carrot and a bean

691
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: Karen a bean and you play you putting a boiling

692
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: pot of water. That ag gets hard, that carrot gets soft,

693
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: but the bean, the bean changes the water, be the bean.

694
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 5: You don't like your circumstance, change your circumstance with your

695
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 5: environment changed you, You change your environment and will What's

696
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 5: the one thing the coach always put in the bottom

697
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: of his pre Friday.

698
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Night meeting sheets, was it seconds? Constantly concentrate on six seconds?

699
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: Success is constant constancy of what come on?

700
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm on the fucking spot right now.

701
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: I got the surrender Cooper for you right now? Yeah,

702
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: is struggling right now? If my if my coach is

703
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: on here.

704
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: You probably would say no to come on this podcast.

705
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: But if he was on here and he asked me

706
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: a question, I wouldn't know.

707
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: Purpose ye thumbs out there we go, you know to

708
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: you seven straight years, No, we can.

709
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: I want to spend a lot of time, right those things?

710
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: Did you like those things? Do you like the thought sheets?

711
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

712
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: We thought she so we did that. I talked about

713
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: every Friday night.

714
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: You didn't have a whole lot of thoughts with the stories.

715
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: And Carl would be up there talking to us talking

716
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: about some war book he's reading.

717
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, then I would talk to do the

718
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: same thing I always talked about together.

719
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: He'd have a sheet. Oh yeah, our team meetings. Yeah,

720
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah yeah, but

721
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: you're awesome. What would what didn't you like when you

722
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: were there? What you thought Bo could have done better

723
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: at Nebraska?

724
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: Me personally?

725
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if I could speak candidly, i'd like I

726
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: think when we were in the big moments and Bow

727
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: would get pissed off, Bo was our like leader, you

728
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like Bo is the guy where

729
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: you knew when he was talking on the media, it

730
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: was always it felt like, uh, you know, our backs

731
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: were against you know, the nation of Nebraska. Basically like

732
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: it was us first them, like you always wanted to

733
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: make you Yeah, Bo would like the head of all

734
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: of it. So anytime we had a team meeting, everybody's

735
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: tripping outside the walls, outside the building.

736
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: You knew you were gonna go into team.

737
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: Meeting and here's some juice from Bow, Like he's gonna

738
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: give us something, He's gonna get our heads right, We're

739
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: all gonna be good. And when you get in tough

740
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: parts of the game, and Bow from stories out here,

741
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: blacks out and doesn't necessarily remember how much he like

742
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 2: gets after people. But when Bow gets fucking pissed off

743
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: and you feel like shit's in the fan and you

744
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: feel like you're letting everybody down. I feel like that

745
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: festers into a young kid's psyche, and then you play

746
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: more to not mess up instead of like, instead of

747
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: like needing somebody that's like, hey, it's all gonna be

748
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: fucking good, Like I.

749
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: Don't play, don't play to to not make a mistake correct.

750
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: And I felt like that that happened. I feel like

751
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: it happened more so too when you're a younger guy,

752
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: because when I was a senior, there was a time

753
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: where Penn State drove on us our senior year, had

754
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: an opening drive and drove all the way down the

755
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: field and we can't check vegas or we're getting checks

756
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: and slower calls or not getting in. It's a cover one.

757
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: It's a cover one thing that was in the like

758
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: in the playbook Nebraska. It was at Nebraska. It's our

759
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: senior year.

760
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we either.

761
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: Weren't getting calls in quick or we're not getting lined

762
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: up fast enough for getting our checks in. And they

763
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 2: drive it down and score on us, and we come

764
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 2: to the sideline and Bo's just fuman. It's the first series,

765
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: and it's kind of like, yo, it's all good because

766
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: we had a good group of seniors, but you're kind

767
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: of mout, you're kind of chirpping back to him. Then

768
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: he comes over and he taps you on the head

769
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: like it's all good to go.

770
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: You rally.

771
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you end up winning the game and stuff,

772
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: But I feel like a lot of times, like when

773
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: I noticed it, when I noticed it watching from afar

774
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: was probably the Wisconsin game where you guys were seven

775
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: and oh or eight and one, you guys were at

776
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: their house.

777
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: They were up like seventeen nothing.

778
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: You're up seventeen nothing and or seventeen three at the time,

779
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: and Melvin Gordon jumps over Corey Cooper and goes to

780
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: the end zone and you see you just going in

781
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, from my stance, like these dudes are

782
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: up seventeen ten going in a halftime against a team

783
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: that we need to this is our time to come back,

784
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: like they've obviously had our number every year, Like we're

785
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: in it, Like we don't you know, there don't need

786
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: to be any red ass being spread. It's more of

787
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: like a corral thing. That's a moment where I felt like,

788
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: you know, you remember certain things like that and not

789
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: in a way that you know that that's probably my

790
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: thought of what you could have done better at Yeah,

791
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: if I was being if I was being triguer, like

792
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: the time of Youngstown too, you guys are still in

793
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: the game, and you guys had the most abysmal pass

794
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: interference call out there, and you still got a shot

795
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: to go to get the ball kicked off to you

796
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: and at least try and do something, and you know

797
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: right for sure, but you and Carl are so pissed

798
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: off and you get a penalty and then you're kind

799
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: of just out of it. But I felt like those

800
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: were those are moments that I feel like, if if

801
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: you could zoom out and look on you could be like,

802
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: you know, in these times, because he's like the head of.

803
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: The all the time, you know what's crazy about I

804
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 4: always said that, and I kind of there were times

805
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 4: when I would just almost not say anything because you know,

806
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: they were There's always that. I always felt like Nebraska

807
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: was especially there was the kids had so much pressure

808
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: on them. I mean, forget about you know, and I

809
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: sometimes obviously my personality added to that maybe, you know,

810
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: because they wanted to but they sometimes you want to

811
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 4: win so bad, but all of a sudden, sometimes I mean, dogar,

812
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 4: you might agree with that something bad would happen, and

813
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 4: it was like it just compounded itself. It was like

814
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: all of a sudden that they just totally lost her.

815
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 4: You know, some certain guys right would just totally lose it,

816
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 4: you know, and uh yeah, And it was we used

817
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 4: to sit and talk about that in meetings a lot,

818
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 4: like okay, you know, part of it was okay, yeah,

819
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 4: I got I got to handle I got to be

820
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 4: better in that situation, understanding that what these kids are

821
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: going through, you know.

822
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you were always uh you know, you

823
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 2: wanted to be like a player out there playing the game.

824
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah too much sometimes because.

825
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: I remember the time I came back and we sat

826
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: in your office for like probably a few hours. We're

827
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: talking about last night, like after I left Nebraska, came

828
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: back and we're talking about it. It's like I was

829
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: trying to say a couple of things like that, like

830
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: just to where it's like you just know a young

831
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: kid who's there and they're seventeen, eighteen, nineteen years old.

832
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 2: They're on the young end of it and all of

833
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: it's happening.

834
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's a lot for a kid to say,

835
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: Nebraska that has there's so much expectation, which you're getting

836
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: at this whole.

837
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: Time, right, there's more, there's more outside. You probably went

838
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: through that in Michigan.

839
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there, it's definitely the message you like.

840
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: Ei.

841
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: There was one time I went on like the old

842
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 4: mess when I was in Nebraska. We were kicking your ass.

843
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: We had to have been like.

844
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually pulled a clip up in that like

845
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: two weeks ago, as though I blocked about one time

846
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: in that game, we'll threw a punch you should have

847
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: thrown out.

848
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I mean that game.

849
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: Anytime you went to Nebraska, and I'm gonna get a

850
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: little lost track, but anytime you went to Nebraska, it

851
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: was the most It was the weirdest experience because you

852
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: go in usually when you play most teams in the

853
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: Big Ten, you're walking by, fans are throwing you the

854
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: bird as you're driving in, and that Nebraska they're just hey,

855
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: how you doing?

856
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: Good luck? Like I have a good luck today.

857
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: While it was super nice and greeting, and you guys

858
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: just donkeyed us. I think it was the fourth quarter

859
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: my senior it was my senior year. That was my

860
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: junior year because it was your Yeah, it was a

861
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: fourth court. You guys were like twenty three seven or

862
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: something like that. Not an incredible deficit, but like it

863
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: was a little something hurt, like we're gonna when a

864
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: backup quarterback win three for thirteen with three picks, and

865
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 3: we're like, we're running it.

866
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: This is what we got to do.

867
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: And it's nothing against I mean, he was thrown into

868
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: a situation. But it's so big, it's so loud, everyone

869
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: is there, and when you were leaving after you get

870
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 3: your ass kicked, everyone's like, all right, hey, good game,

871
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: great job, Like you know, it's it was. It never

872
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: seemed Nebraska never seemed like a super hostile environment. When

873
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: you're during the game, it's obviously very loud, but it

874
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: seemed like the fans were also like, hope, it's hope

875
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: it's a competitive game. So I never knew, like, are

876
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: the history there from that to Michigan where you know,

877
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 3: the year before I got to Michigan, they were losing

878
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 3: to Wisconsin and they're getting booed, the home fans are booming,

879
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: Michigan going in to the locker room at halftime, and

880
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: so it was a it was a different deal. They

881
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: would they'll turn on you in a dime. But I

882
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 3: didn't think it was like that in Nebraska because the

883
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: way the fans were from what I saw my perspective,

884
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: you know, they were nice to you because they saved

885
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: all their hostility for hostility for me.

886
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well yeah, how long we had Nebraska for?

887
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: But seven years? Seven years, that's a long I mean

888
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: that's a that's a long time. You guys had a

889
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 3: lot of success there too, right, yeah, and you were.

890
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: Part of it. I mean, yeah, that's very impressive. I

891
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 1: bet there right now one out of five coaches, six

892
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: coaches that won and there's only a couple of six games.

893
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: And it's like it was like you, Chip, Kelly Saban,

894
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: a few others. I mean, good.

895
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 4: Company, a really company. You know, we were consistent. We

896
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: were consistent because we had a good culture, we had

897
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 4: good kids. We weren't always the most talented team. I

898
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 4: mean Will would agree with that. I mean, we had

899
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 4: we had our talent, but we also had we had

900
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: we had a strong culture, really good. I mean I

901
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 4: always say that there's uh when I look back when

902
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: I when I left there, we had won I think

903
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: there was only one or other other team over that

904
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: period of time that won more games. And I said

905
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: to Alabama, maybe Oregon during that time. But when I left,

906
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 4: we had the highest GPA in the history of the school.

907
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: Really but didn't fuck around when it came to going

908
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909
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, because you know, we we've talked

910
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: about everything counted, Everything counts.

911
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: You know, everything you do counts.

912
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Speaker 4: I mean, how you we didn't have kids getting in

913
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,600
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914
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915
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916
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918
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919
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921
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922
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Speaker 1: It's do you think is there ever a time you

967
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Speaker 1: end up back in Nebraska? No, I'll never end up back.

968
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Speaker 3: You don't think so even if they called them like, hey,

969
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Speaker 3: hey listen, we fucked up, they wouldn't they wouldn't know

970
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,360
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971
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Speaker 1: Not there's a bum, Yeah, because of how bad the

972
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973
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Speaker 4: No, it just because it was more than that. You know,

974
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 4: obviously it was the A D at the time, but

975
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: I mean the in the in the chancellor at the time.

976
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 4: Those two kind of probably drove it. But the media,

977
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 4: you know, they had gotten the media on board, and

978
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 4: those media people would never admit to being wrong or

979
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 4: you know, to but you know, I just don't think

980
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 4: it whatever, it would never happen.

981
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: Now.

982
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what was interesting to me too is

983
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: like when they were kind of and this is this

984
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: is my me talking, when they're kind of pushing you

985
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: out of there. I thought it was interesting because Tom

986
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 2: Osmonne was the A D before. Who who's the IDA

987
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: that came I cursed cours course, And you would think

988
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: that Tom, like I would assume that Tom and everybody

989
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: there that's in the culture there would already let the

990
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: new the new people come in, know like, you know,

991
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: this is the culture we have, you know what I mean?

992
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: Because Tom Osborne's like seeing in Nebraska as Tom Osborne.

993
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: You think that something like that just wouldn't happen like

994
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: how it happened.

995
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: You wouldn't think that they would.

996
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 4: You would think that they would have celebrated and treated

997
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: Tom better at the end, and that didn't happen.

998
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: They weren't treating Tom good at the end. No, I

999
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 3: mean no, not really. He didn't kind of forced Tom out.

1000
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: I don't think Tom was quite right. I mean in

1001
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: the end, I think Tom Osborne you know, earned the

1002
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: rate to I mean, came back, kind of saved the

1003
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: program when he came back as the A d oh, yeah, absolutely,

1004
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, Yeah, I think he's

1005
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: pretty much earned the rate. You know, Tom would never

1006
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: say this, but Tom earned the rate to pick his

1007
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: successor and and to make sure that probably you know,

1008
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: safeguard the tradition all the things that went on and

1009
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: that that didn't happen. So and here here we are. Yeah,

1010
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: they're fighting to get back. You know, what kind of report.

1011
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: Did you have at the time with that new ad,

1012
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: Like how much was he involved with.

1013
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 4: I like horse, Yeah, almost no relationship at all. I

1014
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 4: mean over the time he was there, very little, almost not.

1015
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: This is the guy.

1016
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: This is the guy, that kind of guy.

1017
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: How did that? How long was he there before you left?

1018
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 4: He was he had been there about a year year

1019
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 4: a year, and so he was supposed to come in

1020
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: and be kind of an interim guy. Yeah, and then

1021
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 4: that like that, it just happened a lot faster. Next thing,

1022
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 4: you know, he's in Tom's out and you know, at

1023
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: that point, you know Tom had hired me. That's why

1024
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: I came back, you know, because Tom had talked me

1025
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: into coming back, and and uh, you know, at that

1026
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 4: point you kind of know that this isn't going to

1027
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 4: be a long term thing.

1028
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. And when it came to the relationship, was there.

1029
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: Did you try to initiate a relationship with this guy,

1030
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 3: talked to him and be buddies with him or very?

1031
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: He was very He was just a standoffish dude. That

1032
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: was his That was kind of how was uh, that

1033
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 4: was his style.

1034
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: I guess they take a step back so he didn't

1035
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 3: have to make emotional decisions to all be business.

1036
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't really. He didn't interact with.

1037
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 4: He didn't interact with a lot of people very much,

1038
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: but especially the coaches. I don't know how much he

1039
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 4: interacted even with some of the you know, the underlying

1040
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: people that were the assistant ads and that type of thing.

1041
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 4: He had a different style and uh but you know,

1042
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: to me, everything, especially in a place like the Briant,

1043
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: it's about relationships when you don't have relationships. And I mean,

1044
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 4: heck that my last year there, we went I think

1045
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 4: at one point we were seven and oh and I'm

1046
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 4: answering questions about my job security. Oh really, I'm like,

1047
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 4: life's too short for this.

1048
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gotta be tough.

1049
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I know if we were seven zero at Michigan,

1050
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: people will be celebrating from the from the room, they

1051
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: be jumping off the stadium.

1052
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: Seventh I was. It was a mere senior year.

1053
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 4: At the end of the day. We had never won

1054
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: less than nine game, you know, we we were nine

1055
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 4: and ten every year. And you know even I mean, heck,

1056
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 4: I laugh because I see some of these coaches and schools, like,

1057
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, guys win five games and they get a

1058
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: contract extension. I said, heck, they would have been burning

1059
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: crosses in my yard if I want to.

1060
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you were talking about you, didn't you know,

1061
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: you weren't thinking they were treating Tom that well, Like

1062
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: were there people that didn't like Tom, like in Nebraska.

1063
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of hard to imagine anybody not liking

1064
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: Tom Osborne in the state of Nebraska.

1065
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, what do they I don't

1066
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: know how you can't like Tom. I mean, I mean

1067
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: you can't, But you know, I think there's some people

1068
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: there that were, you know, some of the people that

1069
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 4: were decision makers that were probably jealous of him, you know,

1070
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: got you know, saying you because Tom was kind of

1071
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 4: seen as you know, kind of bringing the program back

1072
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: and bringing a tradition back, and you know, people want

1073
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 4: their credit, people want you know whatever. For whatever reason,

1074
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 4: human nature comes in and yeah, there's jealousy involved, and.

1075
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: I think to overcome you in nature.

1076
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you were in that that video the conference

1077
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: he was talking about earlier, when you were talking about

1078
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: what game was that, I don't know, Yeah, when was

1079
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: that fire Me fire?

1080
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: The press said something to you along on the lines

1081
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 3: of like players and job security, and you started going

1082
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: off on them about like, I ain't worry about my job.

1083
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: I don't worry about this. I don't worry about like

1084
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: it's not the player's fault, it's my fault. Put it

1085
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 3: on me and you kind of had like your own

1086
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 3: I mean as a player watching them like.

1087
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: Them, you kind of want to play like.

1088
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: Come, you know, if they want to fire me, they

1089
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 2: can go ahead and fire me. You know what press

1090
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: conference I'm talking about, It.

1091
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: Could have been one of you.

1092
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't yeah, okay, So it was

1093
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 4: after we lost I the year before that.

1094
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: That's a big rivalry, right obviously.

1095
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: And that was the year you actually, I mean there

1096
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: wasn't you stayed another year, right because there are rumors

1097
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 2: about you. There are rumors about people wanting to fire

1098
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: you then right like you want to This was like

1099
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: a two year thing to where you kind of.

1100
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: Felt chicken shit call? What person foul was that?

1101
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: Who knows? Dude, that could have been any call. That

1102
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: could have just been a fucking we gotta we There was.

1103
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: A big third down but I remember there was a

1104
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 4: big third down play and you know, we got we

1105
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 4: were off the field and flag comes out really cost

1106
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 4: us a game, and it cost us a chance to.

1107
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: Win the game.

1108
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 4: And they asked me about about after the game do

1109
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: you think what do you think of that pastor interference

1110
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 4: call to you?

1111
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: And I there you go ten.

1112
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 3: For sure, Dobson on on your end, what during this

1113
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: time that was your senior year.

1114
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: Will lost Iowa? No, no, no, we we we were

1115
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: against Iowa.

1116
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 3: George George George Kittle from the Yuars werening nine games

1117
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: every single year. From your standpoint, a lot a lot

1118
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: of times the stringth coach goes with the head coach,

1119
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: like we all know, like it kind of comes down

1120
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: and you see all this pressure from the media. What

1121
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: was your thought process like during this whole thing. Did

1122
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: you think it was a little of horseeshit or what?

1123
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: I think the whole staff supported BO.

1124
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like Will said, he was the leader

1125
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 5: of the team, He's a leader of the staff. So

1126
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 5: the staff always supported both, no question, I.

1127
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: Mean all the players did.

1128
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 2: It was always you always felt the you always felt

1129
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: the separation of everybody who played for BO, everyone who

1130
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: was in like the culture of BO and then pretty

1131
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: much everybody not everybody else because I hate to say that,

1132
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: because you would even you know, you would even help

1133
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: guys too in team meetings, because guys would get death

1134
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: threats for you know, not making a play or something

1135
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: like that, or people's families would get trash. Remember now

1136
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: it's Paul like his family was getting stuff thrown at

1137
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: him or something after because Niles was running into the

1138
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: end zone and fumbled the ball into the end zone

1139
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: like as he was about to score, and we lost

1140
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: a game.

1141
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: We shouldn't have against Iowa State, but we shouldn't have.

1142
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the players know we kept kind of

1143
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 4: everything in house. But I think the players appreciated me

1144
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: for appreciated not just me, but our staff for what

1145
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 4: we were because I think at the end of the day,

1146
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 4: as much as we you know that we were hard

1147
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 4: on you, we we we had high expectations for the players,

1148
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: but I think they always believe we had your best

1149
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 4: interests at hert I think, yeah, the players, I mean it.

1150
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: Really sounds like it. I mean, knowing how Dobson is

1151
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: and then how Will's talking about you, sounds like you

1152
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: guys had a really good squad inside that was able

1153
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 3: to keep it in house. Sometimes there's always a stray

1154
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 3: staff member that would leak some stuff out, or you know,

1155
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 3: it kind of seemed that way of Michigan where they're

1156
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: they're the core group of people really believed in what

1157
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: we were doing, but there was always a few stragglers

1158
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 3: and it sounds like in your building and your core group.

1159
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: There was no stragglers in that ye on our flour

1160
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: it was pretty strong and it seems I mean, I

1161
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 3: don't know, how does it make you feel past player

1162
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 3: and all the players that played at with Will at

1163
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: Nebraska that I've met through Will, they had nothing but

1164
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: good things to say about you. That's got to be

1165
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: a good feeling. Yeah, we had, Like I said, I

1166
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: think that's why that gave us a chance to win

1167
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 3: and be consistent as we were. We were all pretty

1168
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: much on the same page, and we had a strong culture,

1169
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 3: you know, and high character, hard working. I mean, just

1170
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: just like the Chevy Silverado.

1171
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly like the Chevy Silverado. But I mean it

1172
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: is true.

1173
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 2: We could sit here and talk about, you know, moments objectively.

1174
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: Like process we've talked about all the time. And I

1175
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 4: think the players believed that. You saw guys when I

1176
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 4: would walk out, I mean, guys would stay. People were

1177
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 4: in there watching film by themselves. They were they were

1178
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 4: doing the extra the little things that that give you

1179
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: a chance to be successful.

1180
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, And at the end of the day, you can

1181
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 2: talk about us not you know, winning certain games for

1182
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: whatever reason or objectively looking at hey, what could we

1183
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 2: have all done better? Like everyone knows they can get

1184
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: better at something. But overall, I mean everyone has benefit

1185
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: from the you know, all your mantras that we mess

1186
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: around with and play with because I've always preached attitude

1187
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: and for bo is always preaching a focus on the process,

1188
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: compete every day. And as much as we joke about it,

1189
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I'm not in this chair without

1190
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: without all of that stuff, without all of those hard teachings,

1191
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: because you were about you know, and I always remember

1192
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 2: it because God blessed Josh Mullick and all the guys

1193
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: who had missed who had missed class, and you would

1194
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: have to call out in a team meeting and go

1195
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: over sleeping in fucking class. But it's like, guys, I'm

1196
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: not babysitting. I'm not here to babysit you like you're

1197
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: not going to show up on Saturdays. You're not going

1198
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: to show up when you want to. It's not you

1199
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 2: don't wear the inn on the side of your helmet

1200
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: and get to be out in front of ninety thousand

1201
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: and then all the other days of the week you

1202
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: get to you know, slap off, not go to class

1203
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: and then you want to, you know, come dick around

1204
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: at practice or show up at practice just to go

1205
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: be on the sideline during the game Saturday. He's like,

1206
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: you're either going to be an all the time guy,

1207
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: or you're not going to be here. And I mean,

1208
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: you know.

1209
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: How it is with class checkers, but I.

1210
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: Mean bo was literally had a rapport with goddamn felt

1211
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: like every teacher because they like couldn't wait for a

1212
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: football player to mess up so they could email them

1213
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, I'm talking to coach Ball, you

1214
00:51:59,239 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1215
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would go and check classes every night.

1216
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 3: You would go, oh, yeah, you know, he really would.

1217
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: I wasn't there yet, but it was your first spring

1218
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: ball and guys were talking about how you shut down

1219
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 2: Oa Street basically for on the team street. O Street

1220
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: was like the bar, you know where you went to

1221
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: the bars. He's trying to rebuild the culture, so he's

1222
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: not letting guys really go out, like be seen out

1223
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 2: in the scene like downtown.

1224
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: If you're caught out, it's yeah, it's extant.

1225
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 4: Well, there were a couple of places that were just

1226
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 4: off limits where yeah, it was just the rail.

1227
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always it's always like, yeah, I know you

1228
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: went downtown, is what I was getting at.

1229
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: And I walked in and I heard about this brash rail.

1230
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 4: So I went in there. And I went in there

1231
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 4: and it was like they're luckily there were no players

1232
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 4: in there that night, but the people were like, could

1233
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 4: not believe that you showed up the rail And to Mario.

1234
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: Was in like the spot you go to whereas it's

1235
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: midnight and you stays open and one you go to

1236
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: the rail at midnight because that's where it just gets

1237
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: it just gets grinding me music, loud music.

1238
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, that finish

1239
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: the one.

1240
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 4: Remember Mario Williams, Yes, to Mario was in there, so

1241
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 4: he so I was in. He knew I was back.

1242
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 4: So I said to Mario, he goes, he guess it

1243
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 4: would be in the brass Sitt's a good night to

1244
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: be He's going to be in the brash rails. So

1245
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 4: I walked in. I went and saw him. You know,

1246
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 4: obviously I was in there to see if any of

1247
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: you guys, if any players were in there, but I

1248
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 4: kind of gave me excuse.

1249
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: I said hi to.

1250
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 4: Tomorrio, gave him a hug, looked around, saw no one

1251
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 4: was in there and walked out next thing, you know,

1252
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 4: I mean it was the next by the next morning

1253
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 4: it left him. Everybody knew that I was in there.

1254
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 4: You're in the rail Yeah. So they were like, don't go.

1255
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: There, no fuck around, dude, have you checking classes?

1256
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: Oh he's which I was above that.

1257
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: Oh the greatest ever was Marvel. Yeah, so I'm you know,

1258
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 4: so I'm he he was either a freshman or sophomore.

1259
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I So I show up to check class. Yeah,

1260
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: and he's got his.

1261
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 4: Backpack on and he's getting like, seize me. So I

1262
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 4: come up the steps. He's coming out the door, and

1263
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 4: I know it was Monday night football. He's probably going

1264
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 4: to watch Money Night Football was like one of those,

1265
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: you know, two and a half hour classes and a halfway.

1266
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 4: So I showed up halfway through and he was he

1267
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: was inching out of there. Yeah, and he's like, he's

1268
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 4: why I see him. He's got his backpack on and everything,

1269
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 4: And I said, where are you going? He like makes

1270
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 4: a right walks over and says, I'm just getting to

1271
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 4: drink of water. I was born yesterday. I think, get

1272
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 4: your ass back in there.

1273
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh he was, so we laugh about it. To

1274
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: this day because he's like, yeah, I got busted. Yeah, No,

1275
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: it'd be crazy.

1276
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: People would talk about you showing up the classes and

1277
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: everything like that. You and Dabson bringing in the program.

1278
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 2: What was that about?

1279
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: What does that mean bringing in the program.

1280
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: There's these fucking military Navy seal guys. It's just kind

1281
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: of a bone I've had with these guys ever since

1282
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: I've been in college. But you would uh do all

1283
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: these hard ass fucking sounds like it's all Dobson. Yeah,

1284
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 2: it's basically adoptson GPP day in the evening.

1285
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: So Donson would lose. Yeah, and hey, Dohnson, you ever lose.

1286
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: I'm just kiddy. Yeah, I am fucking around here.

1287
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 5: It's Terry's version. Eric capatuolok at the program. It's it's

1288
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 5: developing leadership through shared adversity.

1289
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: So it's really not a work. It sounds like the

1290
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: most terrifying forever. It's a leagal. It's really good.

1291
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 4: Eric, the guy who runs his Eric Capatoolo and his group.

1292
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I recommend it for anybody that any team, corporation,

1293
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 4: whatever I mean it is. They do an unbelievable job

1294
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 4: shared adversity.

1295
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 3: So what's the adversity in this sounds like it sounds

1296
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 3: terrifying if it's his adopts in GPP day. It's not

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Speaker 3: for the faint of heart. So how does the process work?

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Speaker 1: What you like? You brought this guy in.

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00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we we hired these guys to come in

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00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 5: and it's a leadership seminar is basically what it is

1301
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 5: for two to three days and it's on them. They

1302
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 5: control it, they run it, but they'll give us feedback.

1303
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 5: Coach bowl, you know, ask those questions or have you know,

1304
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 5: those guys work on certain situations with certain guys on

1305
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 5: the team, but they run it, they control it, and

1306
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 5: it's it's good.

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00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: It's really good as far as yeah, they don't interview.

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00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 4: You'll give them background and then they'll take they'll go

1309
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 4: and run with it. And then afterwards, you know, they

1310
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 4: kind of give you your feedback and say, you know, these

1311
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 4: are this is the strength, these are the leaders, these

1312
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 4: are the guys. You know any kind of this is

1313
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 4: how I would push his buttons. This guy needs this.

1314
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 4: And really it's amazing how spot on they can be

1315
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 4: and just being around guys for whatever, what is it, seventy.

1316
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: Two hours, So it's like appro.

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00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 5: It's not a workout whole formally, not a you know,

1318
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 5: we're making this a workout unders strength enditioning. It's a

1319
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 5: it's it's a class. It's like a three day class basically,

1320
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 5: but there's a workout.

1321
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: You're working out. Oh, a perfect jumping? What is that? Okay?

1322
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 4: A perfect A lot of metal stuff along a lot

1323
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 4: along with the physical and then they go in to

1324
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 4: pull the next.

1325
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 3: Day, the next day, the next morning morning at three am,

1326
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 3: after finishing, we don't care about Yeah, after finishing.

1327
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: At like nine pm the night before, you go and

1328
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: sleep for a few hours. Then you got to beat

1329
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: the pull the next day like three am.

1330
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 5: No, you guys at five am? Ship dude, you had

1331
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 5: to get up, but you had to be at the

1332
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 5: pool of five. Okay, maybe be at the pool of four,

1333
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: we'll say four.

1334
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 3: How good does it feel to be able to talk

1335
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 3: to your old coaches like that? Bullshit? Dude, you have

1336
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 1: Bitter about it? No, not really, I mean you do

1338
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: it every year, but you're kind of soft. So I

1339
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: was my feedback. Did they ever point out Will as

1340
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: a leader? Will? No, they didn't even know. Will was Hey,

1341
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: that's gotta be tough.

1342
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: To hear.

1343
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: But he's a Gordy Gohard for sure. He's definitely one

1344
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: of those that No. I was my senior year. I

1345
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 3: literally I was all Michigan manned out. I was all

1346
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: about it.

1347
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: But you learn.

1348
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We are both the

1349
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: same way in college our senior years. I don't know

1350
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 3: about your first three years, because my first three.

1351
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: Years, I mean I was you know, I wish I

1352
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't have took it as serious as I did, but

1353
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's got me here. So yeah, because

1354
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: I look back on the fact, I just I always

1355
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: put a lot of pressure on myself, you know, as

1356
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: a kid everything else, and it makes you great though, yeah, true, Yeah,

1357
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: the paranoid survive.

1358
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people are out to get you due

1359
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: to go the best and the extra.

1360
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 4: Time is what gave you, you know you, I mean

1361
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 4: you were obviously very talented, but putting the extra time

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Speaker 4: in yes.

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Speaker 1: Shout out the boys.

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Speaker 3: Will Will came to my house. Not my house, a

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01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: family lived within high school. He came to Arizona and

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 3: stayed for a couple days.

1405
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: Wet. It's some podcasts out there.

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01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: And one night we put on the twenty twelve game

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01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: Nebraska versus Michigan, and it was a game we won.

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01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: It was the Will Compton Show.

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01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 3: The announcers the whole time we're talking about Compton, his leadership.

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01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 3: There were you know, nine guys are leaving these nine guys.

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01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 3: But Will Compton's the guy like it's they were on

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01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 3: them definitely over overachieving.

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01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: Well, we got our ass kicked the year before at

1414
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: the bank House, remember that.

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01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a.

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01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: Dono comes into the team meeting and basically just says

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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: everyone needs to be like Levonte David.

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01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: Because Levante I remember that. Dude. I was like, no,

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01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: he's like the.

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Speaker 2: Only guy in here who should feel worth a shit

1421
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: about anything is this one right here?

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01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: Levonte?

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01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: You guys all need to be like him.

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01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 4: He was an amazing he Well he still is, but

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01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 4: you know, Levante, I think I always point that out.

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 4: He was like that that we want to talk about, missus.

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01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 4: I just scouted after Scott after scout coming in and

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01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 4: you know, let's say, what do you think about Leavonte? Well,

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 4: he's not this, He's not that.

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01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 3: He's not you would say that, they would say that,

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01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: they would.

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 4: Say that he's not you know, he's just you know,

1433
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 4: if he's big enough. And it's like, are you watching it?

1434
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 4: Like he makes every tackle like how like? And I'm like,

1435
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 4: you're gonna play against him, you better take him or

1436
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to play against this guy. And and

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01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 4: he's Lavante was just I mean you would he was

1438
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 4: a lot like you in that he lived it like

1439
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 4: he watched tons of film. He just he was about

1440
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 4: so detailed me and he's so talented character off the

1441
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 4: charts and everything.

1442
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 3: Kind of like a like an Ed Reid style, Like

1443
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 3: he just just good to see that he's getting his

1444
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 3: do right now.

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01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah watch yeah, you watch that super Bowl and you

1446
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 4: know he was he had to me, he was like

1447
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 4: the m v P.

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01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean he he like m Kelsey. He covered Kelsey

1449
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: the whole game. Him and White, those are the linebacker there.

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01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 3: Two linebackers are incredible, incredible. They do a great job.

1451
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 3: They do a really good job.

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01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 4: White the young kid, he's he's a player too. Yeah, absolutely,

1453
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 4: and he's got a great out of learned from you know,

1454
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: the play next to I'm.

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01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 3: Assuming Sue's the best player you ever probably had from

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01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 3: a talent standpoint, would Leavonte probably be second?

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01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would think so. Glenn Dorsey and it

1458
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 4: is a callvid player. You know he didn't he kind

1459
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 4: of didn't. Poor Dorsey. You know, he got drafted and

1460
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 4: they put him. He was a to me, it was

1461
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 4: a three technique and they next thing, you know, they've

1462
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 4: changed to a three four and they I can think

1463
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 4: that hurt his career. But those two guys were really good.

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01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 3: It's got to be tough when you see guys, especially

1465
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: care about and college, be so successful and then then

1466
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: they don't get their due in the NFL. For me,

1467
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 3: like Denard Robinson's that guy. Yeah, he was so electric

1468
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 3: in college and the fact that they're paying these kids

1469
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 3: now dinar could have made millions of dollars in college.

1470
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Speaker 3: He was unbelievable and it just it just wasn't able

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Speaker 3: to translate in the NFL. I mean, he had some

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Speaker 3: nerve damage in his hand. I think that really affected him.

1473
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:55,439
Speaker 3: But a quarterback from Ohio State, Raxton Miller, Yeah, he's

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01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 3: very Yeah, he extremely talented. Another one, and he was

1475
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: so talented, went to a wide receiver in the NFL.

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01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 3: He played for a little bit. Yeah, but is he

1477
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 3: still in the leak he was in the league last year?

1478
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 4: We could not I know, is that one night at

1479
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 4: Ole State. There were a couple of times where he

1480
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 4: went like seventy We had like three unblocked guys in

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01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 4: the hole, and not only do we not tackle him.

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01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody touched him. I mean, that guy

1483
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 4: was such a.

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Speaker 1: One of them.

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01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 4: I mean he was so talented that really Yeah, so

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01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 4: you reminded me. You say, you're running me a lot

1487
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 4: of of Dinard.

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01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they're They're very similar that way, for sure.

1489
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: It was.

1490
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, that you hope those guys because they're not

1491
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: going to get paid like that in the real world.

1492
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 3: And that's a huge that's a bummer. I know Donard's

1493
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: coaching now, and I hope, I hope he's a head

1494
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 3: coach someday. I hope he goes coach Michigan. I think

1495
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 3: he's coaching had Jacksonville. He's the running backs coach to Jacksonville.

1496
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, the Jags. Baby, he's making that climb

1497
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: he is. That's a bit of a deal. I want

1498
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 3: to ask Dobs about GPP. Did you ever do GPP

1499
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: against players at Nebraska.

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01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: No, I've never done an they did.

1501
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 2: They always did their own things similar like he was

1502
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: a vander he was never doing it with the band

1503
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: players like Harder Ship.

1504
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: So you've only lost to me and g PP. I

1505
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't say I lost to you, say our team. Yeah,

1506
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: you keep bringing that up. Who is your teammate. God,

1507
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: please stop doing this.

1508
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 2: I was I was the teammate. I was a teammate,

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: al right, I let down?

1510
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: Was it Matt? Who's my guy? Mat?

1511
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1512
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:19,959
Speaker 1: Matt?

1513
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: Me and Matt dominated Will and Dobson and a g

1514
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 3: P P and Dobson prizes himself on that stuff. Man,

1515
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 3: I took his soul that day, So I really want

1516
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 3: to get that out.

1517
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: It was.

1518
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 3: That was just for me, and I feel amazing right

1519
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 3: now just hearing that.

1520
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 4: All I know is he was supposed to go to

1521
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 4: dinner with us last night, so he's gotten kind of

1522
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 4: soft and I heard he had to go. So he's

1523
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 4: supposed to hook up with us, hook up with us

1524
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 4: for dinner, and but now he's kind of hanging out

1525
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 4: with the elites.

1526
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: You know that he's white collar. I'm hanging out hanging

1527
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: out with Will and Taylor some white collar. Yeah. The

1528
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: blues fading on him for sure. That's tough to hear,

1529
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: I know, especially a guy who respected and want.

1530
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: You know how much as just eating at him back there.

1531
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: You believe it. I don't. I can't believe it. You

1532
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: turned into no comment. Oh man, So you think you'll

1533
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: ever coach college again?

1534
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 3: Uh?

1535
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. You know, you never say never. I

1536
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 4: don't you know, you don't ever close any doors or anything.

1537
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 4: But I'm not real that the the whole transfer thing,

1538
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 4: the NIL. There's a lot of things that I don't

1539
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 4: quite agree with that are that are going on in

1540
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 4: the direction of it.

1541
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

1542
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 4: I you know, you I would say that I would

1543
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 4: lean more towards saying I if I if I'm coaching again,

1544
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 4: it will probably probably be in the NFL.

1545
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: Oh, how do you think you'd handle the NIL stuff? Well,

1546
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: you've got to embrace it if you're going to do it.

1547
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 4: But it's I don't I think it's going to be

1548
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 4: interesting to see if anybody. I think it's almost going

1549
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 4: to be impossible for them to police it. I mean,

1550
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, like exactly what all the rules are

1551
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 4: and how much they can make and all those types

1552
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 4: of things.

1553
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: But it's going to be like the Wild West.

1554
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: Seems like a lot of gray area for how many

1555
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: team meetings that we have had already over the.

1556
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 4: NIL one I would have got, I would have got.

1557
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: There's no fucking out there.

1558
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 2: I remember so so back, you know, it was that

1559
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: was when Twitter was kind of starting to everybody's kind

1560
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 2: of getting their Twitter accounts, like yeah, Boe.

1561
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 1: Didn't want us to have Twitter, you know, the boy

1562
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: like you don't say that. Okay, sorry, I let you

1563
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: have Twitter. There's no doubt.

1564
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 4: But there was like, well when when when they're just

1565
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 4: when you're putting the stupidest things out there, I said, no,

1566
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 4: it's over, you're done.

1567
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: So I'm pioneering the lead to keep Twitter. Yeah right,

1568
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like yeah, hunter K and

1569
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 2: so you know, Bow's allowing us to keep it, but

1570
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: you know, be solid on it.

1571
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 4: He took it away for a while and I said,

1572
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 4: that's right, taken away nothing about the team, nothing about

1573
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 4: you know, no, I said, just know that it could

1574
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 4: be taken away that quick said.

1575
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: Like vrabel type stuff like with the media, like at

1576
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: the media.

1577
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so bo gives his Twitter back and boys

1578
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 2: are all having a good time. And on one weekday morning,

1579
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 2: I have a call a miscall from Bow at like

1580
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: six in the morning. You know when you when you

1581
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: wake up, your alarm gold and you look at asshole

1582
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 2: gets a little tighty like holy.

1583
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: Ship, ye things are about to go down.

1584
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 3: It's it's almost as bad as waking up for a

1585
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 3: workout five minutes before it starts.

1586
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I call him and he's like, hey,

1587
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 2: you might come into my office. I'm like, yes, sir,

1588
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 2: you know it's not good news.

1589
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: You know I'm sweating telling I've been there. And so

1590
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: I go to his office and I sit down.

1591
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 2: He's like he sits back, He's like, so you guys

1592
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 2: wanted Twitter back right, and then he picks up this

1593
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,799
Speaker 2: piece of paper and he goes, here's what comes across

1594
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: my desk in the morning. And he looks down and

1595
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: he goes, Lamborghini, Mercy, your chick, she's so thirsty. I'm

1596
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: in my two seat, Lambeau, and your girl she's trying

1597
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: to jerk me. He looks up him and he goes,

1598
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 2: the fuck am I supposed to do it that? And me,

1599
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and like, you know, knowing it's lyrics

1600
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: to a JAYZ song, I'm.

1601
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 3: Like, coach, and obviously I do nothing like where that

1602
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 3: came from.

1603
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 4: He's got big guys when he's looking when I'm reading this,

1604
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 4: but I think he's also wanting to laugh, because I'm

1605
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 4: sure I'm not.

1606
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, your head coaches think he just

1607
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 3: put down a hot Trap said.

1608
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, Coach, it's just it's just lyrics.

1609
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: He's like, not everybody knows that, and he's like, this

1610
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: can be taken down to any context. You know, big

1611
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 2: tubs forty eight, shout out, shout out Tobyokimi, dude, but

1612
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: big Tubs forty eight. And then you know, we go

1613
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: to practice and then after practice he's like, he's like,

1614
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 2: uh so we stand up. He's like big Tobes forty

1615
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 2: eight and then he yeah, and I'm kind of sitting

1616
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: there like you know, you know it's gone.

1617
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1618
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: Then he just kind of reiterates how important it is

1619
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: that you know, not like do dumb ship on Twitter

1620
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But he reads and I know

1621
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 2: in my head, I'm like, oh, he has no clue

1622
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 2: to the lyrics. He thinks he's just like about to

1623
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,560
Speaker 2: get jerked off in some two seat Lamborghini.

1624
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: But so when the nil, I was like, what good, Like,

1625
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: why who does that? Everybody? I know mind blow it's

1626
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: just mind blowing them.

1627
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 3: I'd be in the back of that, I take it,

1628
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 3: and A just like this guy has no idea ye, yeah, yeah,

1629
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 3: that's so funny. The number one thing guys do is

1630
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 3: they like put their quote of them doing this standing

1631
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 3: thing in front of a car that's probably not theirs,

1632
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 3: and then they put some line.

1633
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: And so all of our group chats were hitting all

1634
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 2: the what do you think? What do you think our

1635
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: team would be like? If the NIO would have got

1636
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: released the world? You know, laughing, we would be in

1637
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: a team meeting right now. But I couldn't wait to

1638
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: ask you, like, how you think you'd handle this new

1639
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 2: nil world? And you know, it seems like you don't

1640
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: want to coach college football anymore? He said, if fuck,

1641
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm not dealing with this this kind of bullshit.

1642
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually, I mean it was just funny, like

1643
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 4: Corey Levin yesterday.

1644
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, well well yeah, yeah disrepect. Is he his fit?

1645
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: Is he looking in that picture? Yeah? He looks good,

1646
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: he does. How much are you went? Golfer?

1647
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 4: But but I could not believe that, you know, like

1648
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,480
Speaker 4: just I never really thought about it from his standpoint,

1649
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 4: And we're sitting under one team and we're waiting to

1650
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 4: tee off and he somebody NIL came up and he goes,

1651
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 4: yeah can He goes, They're gonna be kids that haven't

1652
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 4: done anything making more money than some of us that

1653
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 4: are playing for the league. Minimum goes, he goes, what's like,

1654
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 4: how about that? I never really thought about it from

1655
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:49,440
Speaker 4: that standpoint.

1656
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: He brought that up in the group chat. He was,

1657
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's a great point. Yeah, it is like

1658
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: do you cap a number? Yes, he can only make

1659
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: a million bucks. I don't know, but you know what

1660
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: it is, it's like the free market.

1661
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like there's you know, there's this world that

1662
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: people a lot of people like don't agree with, the

1663
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: social media aspect that's coming up. People can kind of

1664
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 2: build their brands and do all that kind of stuff

1665
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 2: and capitalize on it without necessarily.

1666
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 4: I saw four guys getting what they you know, making

1667
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 4: money and doing all those types of things. It's just

1668
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 4: to me, it all happens so fast. It doesn't seem

1669
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 4: to be well thought out. I don't think they even

1670
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,799
Speaker 4: understand what the problems are going to be with it.

1671
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 4: It's kind of like the transfer role. It went from

1672
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 4: hard transfer, Yeah you've got a city here too. Now

1673
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 4: they're granting everybody the U waivers to now anybody can

1674
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 4: transfer one time and just be eligible right away.

1675
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, so you know, it's.

1676
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 2: Like almost why be a head coach and those kind

1677
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: of when those things can play.

1678
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you kid, kid doesn't get instant gratification. I'm gone,

1679
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 4: that isn't the way life works. You know, that is

1680
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 4: not the way life works. I mean, you you're not

1681
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 4: gonna get You got to work your butt off. You know,

1682
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 4: you're not always going to walk in. Heck, you walked in.

1683
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 4: You came in and got red shirted. I'm sure you

1684
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 4: wanted to play as a true freshman. Wasn't the best

1685
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 4: thing for you. You probably you could have played it as

1686
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 4: a true freshman, but ultimately it wasn't the best long

1687
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 4: term thing for you, and you had to wait. That's

1688
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 4: just the way life works. But kids are not getting

1689
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 4: that message anymore. I mean from the recruiting process right

1690
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 4: on through. I remember a few years back it was

1691
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 4: funny that I think back and they asked me one

1692
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 4: time at the Big Ten media day about signing day,

1693
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 4: and I said, I think signing days asinine, And they said, well,

1694
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 4: what do you mean. I said, there shouldn't be a

1695
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 4: signing day. They said, well, I don't understand what you're saying.

1696
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 4: And I said, but kid commits, he should sign. Why

1697
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 4: does there have to be one day to sign right,

1698
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 4: And I said, because so then they could commit, they

1699
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 4: can decommit all these different things. I said, A, it

1700
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 4: would be better for the player, It would be better

1701
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 4: for the schools, be it would be better for the

1702
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 4: players because they're you know, in recruiting, there are teams

1703
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 4: schools that offer kids they have no intention of taking right,

1704
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 4: you know, for whatever reason, they do these things, and

1705
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 4: and it would just be better for everybody involved. But

1706
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 4: it would you know, like well, never really thought about

1707
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 4: it that way. Well, sometimes we all got to sit

1708
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 4: and think a little bit, a.

1709
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 2: Little too easy, think a little bit, guy, Yeah, just

1710
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: feel dumb as shit after being told that.

1711
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta sit and think a little bit. It's true.

1712
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: Think about it.

1713
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 4: If you didn't have a signing day, it would slow

1714
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 4: and it would slow recruiting down again. I think the

1715
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 4: worst thing about recruiting right now is now they're freshmen

1716
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 4: being recruited or sophomore.

1717
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It seems like eighth graders.

1718
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 4: Look at you, look at perfect example, you didn't really

1719
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 4: come into your own to your senior year. God only

1720
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 4: knows in this this day and age, what would happened

1721
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 4: you Probably you wouldn't have had all the offer because

1722
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 4: a lot of people would have been filled up by that.

1723
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Speaker 2: a head coach at a place like Nebraska, like, what

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Speaker 2: do you feel like is the hardest Well, was the

1765
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 2: hardest part of that job?

1766
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: Recruiting? And is that all that's got to be the

1767
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: hardest thing? In general always.

1768
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean it's more so at a place

1769
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,799
Speaker 4: like Nebraska because you're going to get like probably eighty

1770
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 4: five percent of your players, you know, of your scholarship

1771
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 4: players are going to be from out of state.

1772
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one year we signed like twenty three kids.

1773
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: What was it was there?

1774
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:26,919
Speaker 4: Twenty three kids from seventeen different states in the average

1775
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 4: was just under one thousand miles away. So you had

1776
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 4: to turn over every rock you had, you know, our

1777
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 4: you got to.

1778
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: Find guys at the big schools on the coast probably

1779
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 2: didn't want.

1780
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to have the best recruiting guys out

1781
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 3: there in all differentea.

1782
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: You had to evaluate and keep evaluating. You know.

1783
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 4: We had, uh, you know, like a mirror. We got

1784
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 4: a mirror because we're the only ones that really wanted

1785
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 4: him to play running back. Yeah, you know, Auburn wanted

1786
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 4: him to play corner and Quincy Quincy and Nunwell. I mean,

1787
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 4: I I can't remember who we beat on him. I

1788
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 4: mean he he had like one other one or two

1789
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 4: other offers. They were smaller schools really, I.

1790
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 2: Mean Leavante, it was out of Nebraska and South Florida.

1791
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 3: Avante. We beat South Florida. That's just the most wild thing.

1792
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 3: How talented he is, right, craah. And they thought he

1793
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 3: was too small.

1794
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they would say, I mean I what Levante played

1795
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 4: for US around two o eight too.

1796
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in the teens at highest.

1797
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's his first year.

1798
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 5: His first year is two nine, two ten, and then

1799
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 5: his last year was sixteen to two nineteen.

1800
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did he play the whole year at that?

1801
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, he'd lose a little bit during the year,

1802
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 5: but he was solid to fifteen to two nineteen.

1803
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,600
Speaker 2: He need his ass off too, because Levonte didn't have

1804
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: a driver's license in college. So I was like the

1805
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 2: guy who had the license, and so Lavonte would ride

1806
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: with me and he'd want me to pull in Sonic

1807
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 2: all the time. He'd be getting the fucking chili cheese

1808
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: dogs and yeah, tell about I got a game weight

1809
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, you think this is the right

1810
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 2: way to gain weight?

1811
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 3: And well, in college is you's got to eat whatever. Yeah,

1812
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 3: on a budget. That's a classic thing too. The Nebraska

1813
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 3: pages up. That's got Lavonte David at two twenty five.

1814
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: Right clover, Yeah, oh classic. He never never never spe.

1815
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 3: Not even close talk to me I want, and we're

1816
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 3: kind of it's already an hour. It's been a great

1817
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 3: pot You've been doing an amazing job. Talk to me

1818
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 3: about your experience as well, like like recruiting him and

1819
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 3: then he loved Yeah, yeah he could.

1820
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: He probably he decommitted about what twenty six do you

1821
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: He wouldn't decommit, but I will.

1822
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 4: He wanted, he wanted, he wanted to be loved, he wanted,

1823
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 4: he wanted to do, he wanted to talk all the time.

1824
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: Hey, at the end of the day, it's all we

1825
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: all want, right, we just want to be loved.

1826
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 4: Like I would hang up the phone with him and

1827
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 4: I would just look at my wife and say, I

1828
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 4: hope he goes somewhere else.

1829
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: Oh I did not just start crying on the pod. No, No,

1830
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: he was Did you have a lot offers? Yeah? Oh yeah, four.

1831
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 4: Star athletes, big recruit and uh, you know, obviously it

1832
01:19:56,080 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 4: was my first year or so. We were we worked

1833
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 4: on him and he told me, you know, I for

1834
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 4: for a while, I tell him the story like how

1835
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 4: it had because he was getting ready to flip.

1836
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so who are you going to flip too? Probably

1837
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 2: it was Illinois and Miszoo. So just to give content,

1838
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: give to give context. Like Illinois had just competed in

1839
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl against USC and they had Jay Lahman,

1840
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 2: who was like an All American linebacker who.

1841
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 4: Was close there at the time, and he was really

1842
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 4: you know, Zook was a great recruiter, right.

1843
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: Because Champagne doesn't seem like the most fun place in

1844
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, for sure.

1845
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm definitely glad I didn't go there. And

1846
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 2: then Miszoo had chased Angel. Yeah, Miszoo had chased Annuel

1847
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: and Jeremy Macklin and they were, you know, in the

1848
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 2: Big Twelve Championship. They were like that close. So you

1849
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 2: had the instant pressure pressure of going to Missoo. And

1850
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 2: then I had committed to Nebraska before the season started,

1851
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 2: So before Nebraska's even playing, we had like a top

1852
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 2: five recruiting class. Blaine Gabbert was the quarterback, five star

1853
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 2: quarterback we had. We had a top five recruiting class

1854
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: for sure, and all the rival rankings and ship and

1855
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: Nebraska had a bad year. They went like five and seven.

1856
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: Maybe it was the first time they hadn't done something,

1857
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 2: and then you know X amount of years, so they

1858
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: fired Bill Callahan. They wanted like his you know, his

1859
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: head on a stake. Basically, Nebrassa is crazy when it

1860
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 2: goes off. We're talking about all the breakup stuff earlier

1861
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 2: with him Exit by ten with Bill Callahan. Yeah, and

1862
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 2: so Nebrassa's basically falling apart. It's not like the nineties

1863
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: this that the other and SO guys are decommitting. They're

1864
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 2: jumping ship and MISSOO and Illinois were having good years

1865
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: and they were recruiting me hard. And there was this

1866
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: time where they didn't have a head coach in place

1867
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 2: in Bo. They didn't have an AD yet, So I

1868
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: was taking visits to other places because I was probably.

1869
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: Going to decommit and go somewhere else.

1870
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 2: And tom Osborn gets hired as the ad. He comes

1871
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 2: into Old bond Ter Missouri teachers. Old teachers are going

1872
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 2: nuts about tom Osmore because he's like one of the

1873
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 2: most wingingst coaches of all time. And he's like, I

1874
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: can assure you're gonna like the new head coach. And

1875
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 2: you know you're sitting there as a kid, fucking drinking

1876
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: your ow kool aid and shit like that, Like I

1877
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: still figured I was gonna go somewhere else.

1878
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: Bo gets hired.

1879
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 2: I go on official visit to Nebraska.

1880
01:21:58,400 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: It was a solid visit. Shut up.

1881
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: L Laurence was my host both he did a great job.

1882
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: He took my mom to church because that's what did it,

1883
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 2: and that's what did it.

1884
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 1: From my mom.

1885
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 2: We get back, you know how it is getting recruited

1886
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: like you're special. It just well, just just taking her

1887
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 2: to church. My mom she's a Catholic school president, so

1888
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: she's like that really tugged on her heart strings. And

1889
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: you know at that point, being a senior, you're having

1890
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 2: to miss basketball games, watching your friends, your the volleyball games,

1891
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 2: like going this stuff because you're having in home visits.

1892
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 2: That's back when you can get texts, phone calls all

1893
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 2: the time. There's like no limits. So I'm just over recruiting.

1894
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: Like Notre Dame came in late, which is where I

1895
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 2: wanted to go initially, and I just didn't want to

1896
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: go on a visit because like I just don't care

1897
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 2: anymore at this point.

1898
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 1: But offered late. Notre Dame offered late, like after guys

1899
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 1: didn't commit at the All American Games. I was like

1900
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: a fucking you know.

1901
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 2: Back yeah peace, yeah, And so missoo visits. My mom's

1902
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 2: school at Saint Rose. This is a week before I'm

1903
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 2: announcing me say that I was going to Yeah, I was.

1904
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: Going to make my announcement on Tuesday before. Yeah.

1905
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I mean I understand where you're coming from.

1906
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 3: That's how it was done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

1907
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 3: nothing in front of you.

1908
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: And that's what we beat.

1909
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 4: A staff beating and I would be like, no offense,

1910
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 4: excuse my pardon my friends, but is this guy a douche?

1911
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: Oh? That hurts so miszoo missoo.

1912
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 2: The linebacker coach comes and visit my mom at her school,

1913
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 2: comes to the school and visits Logan's with me, and

1914
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: so we have a good time at school, and I'm

1915
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: like he's like, yo, what you know who you gonna

1916
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 2: pick out? A you know, missoo and Illinois. Because I

1917
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: had told my mom, look, I'm not going to Nebraska.

1918
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 2: Like it's not going to happen. Because she had such

1919
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 2: a good time on the visit, my mom starts crying

1920
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: in the living room because she wants me to go

1921
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 2: to Nebraska because she loves bo. Yeah exactly, And you know,

1922
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: I was just like, it's gonna be Missouri Illinois.

1923
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: Plus it's closer to home.

1924
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: I can be closer to home, and you know, the

1925
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: old man, he's like, oh, you gotta go, you gotta

1926
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 2: you know, don't worry about that shit, don't worry about

1927
01:23:59,360 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 2: the nstate pressure.

1928
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: Bah blah blah.

1929
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: So Bo calls me on the way back from a

1930
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 2: zoo visiting my mom at school. Bo calls me, comp

1931
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: what's up? Cop, daddy?

1932
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: What's up? You said? Daddy? Cop? Daddy? Cop daddy? What's up? Baby?

1933
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: These embellishing things? Yeah, I can I do?

1934
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 2: Can? Can you let me do one more favorite before

1935
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 2: you make your decision next week? And it's kind of

1936
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 2: like a courtesy.

1937
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: Yes.

1938
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, yeah, sure, what's up? Because I'm

1939
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 2: thinking what could it be? And he goes, I want

1940
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 2: to fly my staff down for Sunday to watch the

1941
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: NFC Championship game. And I'm bummed, and I said, yes,

1942
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 2: Like I do him do the favorite because I'm like,

1943
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,719
Speaker 2: I'm over the in home visits, I'm over all that stuff.

1944
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, sure, coach, we can do that.

1945
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 2: And he's like, I want to fly down, you know,

1946
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 2: called the decordinator linebacker coach dB. All the defensive staff

1947
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 2: didn't send up that wasn't you know stay at home,

1948
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 2: dub Yeah. And the practical staff comes in that night

1949
01:24:56,240 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 2: for the NFC Championship game, and I'm talking like, you know,

1950
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 2: it's like the wedding, like everyone's vibing in different rooms,

1951
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: everyone's kind of cross pollinating, like having the best time ever.

1952
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: And they walked down the great time.

1953
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 2: We're teaching the old guys about the new iPhone, like

1954
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 2: we're playing games in the other room, some people watching it.

1955
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that process was the iPhone right right?

1956
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: And Egler, the linebacker coach, he has this temporary tattoo

1957
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: that looks real of my name on his arm and

1958
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 2: everything else, like we just have a great night.

1959
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: Oh you guys.

1960
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 3: You definitely said Tom Daddy if you got coaches with

1961
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 3: temporary tattoos.

1962
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 2: And so they walk out of the house and I'm like, yo,

1963
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 2: this is I don't know where else i'd write, who

1964
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: else I'd rather play for? Like people always say picked

1965
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 2: the school, picked this and that, and you know, I'm

1966
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: always somebody who like I picked the staff, because when

1967
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 2: they left, I was like, these are who I want

1968
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 2: to play for. These guys who I want to play for.

1969
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 2: And from that moment, and then I went big red

1970
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: really yeah.

1971
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 3: So the last swing was that was on Rune because

1972
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 3: there was going the other way. There's nob Yeah, you're

1973
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 3: going to Missouri.

1974
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: Probably in Missouri it was probably Miszoo. It's private Miszoo.

1975
01:25:58,520 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: You might have he might have.

1976
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 4: He might have into four schools in those four days.

1977
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: Hey, my freshman year. Then when I was red shirted,

1978
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 2: Miszoo waxed us. Oh I remember Carl coming over like,

1979
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: trust me, we'll never lose the Miszoo like this again. Yeah, oh,

1980
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 2: we could have had something. Well you got to offer

1981
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 2: by Nebraska, we could have had something. Yeah, no question,

1982
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 2: But what's your What didn't press me like he pressed

1983
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: you though? Bo?

1984
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 3: Like he came to the school and it was awesome.

1985
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 3: I was like, he was the first head coach, I think,

1986
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 3: the only head coach to come see me. So I

1987
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 3: thought that was the coolest shit ever. But other than that,

1988
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 3: you committed really quick to Michigan. It was a couple

1989
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 3: of months by Like, like I said, they within the

1990
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 3: three month period.

1991
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,759
Speaker 1: What they do out there in Michigan. I got that dough. Baby.

1992
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 1: Did you get paid?

1993
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 2: No?

1994
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: I didn't get paid.

1995
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 2: I don't get dude, I was, have you ever what

1996
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: have you ever slid an envelope? No boosters for that?

1997
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 1: Yea? That? Yeah?

1998
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 3: You know, I mean any good boo stories in the tank? No,

1999
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 3: I know, I mean there there was no one Nebraska there.

2000
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: He's such a but I love it. I love it.

2001
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: What do you know what I mean, all the.

2002
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 4: Years you've known me, do you think that I would

2003
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 4: pay a player.

2004
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: Just before I would do that? There's no way. But

2005
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, because I think they'd

2006
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: own you. You're in l s U. Dude, you're in

2007
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: the SEC. No, let me tell you how that was.

2008
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 1: Shoot is not cheap.

2009
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 4: Now, I was with you. I mean, I don't know

2010
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 4: whether what happens. I don't know if there's something well.

2011
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: I Tyron Matthew on here at some point.

2012
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if there's some booster somewhere

2013
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 4: that couds. You can't control that. I mean, yeah, you

2014
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 4: can't control that. But I'm just saying, like, if you're

2015
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 4: aware of it, you.

2016
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 3: Know no, no, I I I've never saw it, Okay,

2017
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 3: but I also think that people know me well enough

2018
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 3: to know that I wouldn't want to be around that.

2019
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, they wouldn't. I mean, they wouldn't know.

2020
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: I believe you as.

2021
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 3: A coach, you you didn't pay any players or you know,

2022
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 3: facilitate that move.

2023
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: But I mean, LS, you definitely come on about that.

2024
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: We're talking about.

2025
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 4: Well, I've said this, I truly believe that this whole

2026
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 4: Nile thing, all it does is, I mean the stuff

2027
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 4: was going on, I mean from the boosters and all

2028
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 4: that that stuff was going on. So they did was

2029
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 4: make some of the cheating that was happening legal.

2030
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

2031
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2060
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,200
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2061
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,240
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2064
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2065
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: Uh so yeah.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, yeah, so I go, I'm recruiting this

2069
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 4: kid down in Texas and are we allowed to give names?

2070
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 4: I honestly don't remember what I mean. I've recruited so

2071
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 4: many kids out of there. And I walk in and

2072
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 4: it all families there, like the mother, a couple of

2073
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 4: some of the kids. There's answers, uncles. It was just huge,

2074
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 4: great room like this. It was like this so like

2075
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 4: in that corner is like these high to like a

2076
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 4: high top bar, and it seemed like across fifty yards

2077
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 4: away there's you know, some couches and a TV set up.

2078
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 4: It was a kind of a weird setup. And she's like,

2079
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 4: let's go over here, coach and talk. And we're sitting

2080
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 4: there talking and and we're communicating, and we're tom talking

2081
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 4: about the scholarship and I hear this noise behind me

2082
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 4: and I'm like, nah, I can't be and I'm just

2083
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 4: kind of getting distracted and what kind.

2084
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Of noises are we hearing? Pint me a picture.

2085
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 2: Can you mimic those noises?

2086
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, who is it?

2087
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 3: Like a there was both, there was feminine and what

2088
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 3: do the dude sound like?

2089
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 1: There were some grunts going on.

2090
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 2: Can you.

2091
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: You can't?

2092
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 4: So I turn around and I'm like, I'm like, this

2093
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 4: has can't be what I think it is. I turn

2094
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 4: around and there's this big screen TV and they're back

2095
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 4: there and they're like, all like watching porn.

2096
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,719
Speaker 1: They got porn going heavy? Who is they while the uncles? Yeah,

2097
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: while I'm while I'm recruiting the other just sitting there,

2098
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,640
Speaker 1: half chubbed with each other. Yeah, they're sitting there and

2099
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, look at that.

2100
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 4: And I'm like, and the mom kind of looks at me.

2101
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 4: She goes coach ignore them. I'm like, wow, it's kind

2102
01:31:58,280 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 4: of hard.

2103
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a little unusual.

2104
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that that could go. Where were you at

2105
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 1: the time. I was at Nebraska the time. Did he

2106
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 1: come to Nebraska?

2107
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 2: No?

2108
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 4: He didn't end up coming Probably for the best, huh. Yeah,

2109
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 4: I don't know, if I say, I don't even know

2110
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 4: if I kept recruiting A.

2111
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 3: Kidding, Oh, it was over. I mean, it was that

2112
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 3: was so bizarre. That's a weird deal. Weird.

2113
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to.

2114
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 2: Recruit in the living room and you hear just poorn

2115
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 2: behind you. You know, me personally, I don't know if

2116
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:34,719
Speaker 2: I'm joining them or if I'm going to continue to recruit.

2117
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Let's catch up in a second.

2118
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: And we got going on here. Yeah, that's a weird

2119
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: deal man.

2120
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,480
Speaker 4: To see what I was telling Will last night about

2121
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 4: I was recruiting down in Texas and Tim Beck and

2122
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,759
Speaker 4: I were I know one of them was Jamal Turner

2123
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 4: because we were going to his school, but it was

2124
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 4: either Donovan, Vestal or Cere. So we're at this other school.

2125
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 4: We walk in to see the coach and he's also

2126
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 4: the Diana Boys, and he's sitting there. There's this kid

2127
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 4: in there looked like something from like one of the

2128
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 4: eighties movies with like spiked hair. Yeah, like all kinds

2129
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 4: of crazy shit going on in his terror and he's

2130
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 4: getting he's getting the coaches laying into.

2131
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 1: Him, Hey boss, you're good. And I'm talking buss.

2132
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 3: And about thirty you know kids, and we catch like

2133
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 3: the last thirty seconds and the coach is like, so

2134
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 3: get your you know, get your shit together, get out

2135
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 3: of here. And the kid gets up and kind of

2136
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,759
Speaker 3: nods at us as he walks by, and we're like, okay,

2137
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 3: you know, so.

2138
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 1: We do our visit leave that school.

2139
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:43,520
Speaker 4: So we knew Jamal was had a He had a

2140
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 4: like a what do they call it, those athletic periods.

2141
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,600
Speaker 4: So we they were having basketball practice, so let's go,

2142
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 4: let's go grab lunch and we'll go over there and

2143
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 4: we'll get there right when.

2144
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: Basketball practice is over.

2145
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 4: So we get show up at Jamal's school and we

2146
01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 4: walk in and the coaches there, the head coach is

2147
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,879
Speaker 4: out there talking and they're just finishing up basketball practice.

2148
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 1: And we look up.

2149
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 4: And and I see Tim Becker. He was my off

2150
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 4: of our offensive coordinator. He goes, hey, what's up man?

2151
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 4: And I turned and I look. It was the kid

2152
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,719
Speaker 4: that was in the other school, sitting there getting chewed

2153
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 4: out by the coach. By the Dina boys. He's walking

2154
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 4: by and goes, hey, what's up man. A kid goes hey,

2155
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 4: what's up, and Beca goes.

2156
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: Aren't you going to Booie? Aren't you from Bowie? He goes, no,

2157
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm here.

2158
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 2: No, oh, he just from the old school.

2159
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 3: And he walks in the door closes and he sits

2160
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 3: down in class, and I'm like, look at each other, like,

2161
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,600
Speaker 3: what the hell happened? That kid was just going for

2162
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 3: other school like an hour and forgot in a wild.

2163
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: The kid is left.

2164
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was at the other and then he walked in.

2165
01:34:54,120 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 3: He turned around out taking no, I'm here now, like

2166
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 3: it's a totally normal thing. He was just a regular student,

2167
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 3: backs like, hey, what's up, and they're like they're like

2168
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 3: like they knew each other. And I turned around, I'm like,

2169
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 3: is that that? And he walks in like is that

2170
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 3: that kid?

2171
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: Back? Hey, I thought you were over at Bullie And

2172
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: he was like, no, I'm here now.

2173
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 3: Out of here, and there's God, that's awesome. Foxles. He transferred.

2174
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 3: He did, he entered the portal.

2175
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: He just.

2176
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 2: Before we get you out of here. I think it's

2177
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: imperative to tell the Deon Sanders story. This was something

2178
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 2: you told me when I was getting recruited because I

2179
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about because you had coached at

2180
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 2: San Fran when he was on San Fran.

2181
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 1: Right, because you would talk about he would I would

2182
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 1: find his back.

2183
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 4: I was like an assistant, you know, I was like

2184
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 4: an assistant at that time, Like I was just start

2185
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 4: as my first year in coaching, and and uh, you know,

2186
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 4: people have that this misconception about Dion about you know that,

2187
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 4: you know, because everybody saw the flat and everything. I

2188
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 4: always say I thought he was like, no, he was

2189
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 4: a he obviously a tremendous competitor. And uh, but we're

2190
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 4: in a we're in a play we're in the playoffs,

2191
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 4: and we're in a meeting and and uh, you know

2192
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 4: we're we're we're in like a quarters defense and that

2193
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 4: you know, they run the dig, they run the post

2194
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 4: in behind, and the safety was like a got more

2195
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 4: of a backup, kind of a nickel guy. And he's

2196
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 4: in there and he were like, you can don't be

2197
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 4: jumping the dig. You got you know, you cover, you

2198
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 4: got the post. And he's like I was. I was

2199
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 4: looking to get a pick. And they're like, we're like, no,

2200
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 4: you got the post. And he's like, I'll be there

2201
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 4: on Sunday. He goes like I was looking to get

2202
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 4: a pick here in practice. We're like and Dion turned

2203
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 4: and said, you got you got the post, and you know,

2204
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 4: you know, he's just the kid was just kind of

2205
01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 4: yapp and a little bit next thing, you know, I

2206
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 4: had him buy basically by the throat up against the wall,

2207
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 4: saying and so in not so kind of terms, you better,

2208
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 4: you better be there all the time. Yeah, you're you're

2209
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 4: you're fing with our money. You know, this is playoff time,

2210
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 4: this is a real deal. And and it was like

2211
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 4: you know that when he got on the field, it

2212
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 4: was all you know, when he when it was time

2213
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 4: to play, it was all business man.

2214
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: I love that.

2215
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 4: I mean he was a you know, just a great competitor.

2216
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 4: And you know, everybody saw the dancing and all the

2217
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 4: other things, but you know, he was he was a

2218
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 4: freak athlete. I mean I was. I was at that time.

2219
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 4: I was just cutting my teeth and coach, I was

2220
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 4: just learning, you know. And but we had some great

2221
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 4: players on that team. We won the Super Bowl that year,

2222
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 4: and some great players on that team.

2223
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 1: There you go, yes, sir, he doesn't call us sir,

2224
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 1: and I know he doesn't. That was the heyday back then,

2225
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: that was when we had this. We had some dudes. Yeah,

2226
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 1: they have some dudes. Some dudes. Now.

2227
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 2: Could you could you imagine being like, oh I got

2228
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 2: it on Sunday It's like no, no, you got the

2229
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 2: you got the post. I'll be there on Sunday and

2230
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 2: you just get somebody walking by the throat. But you

2231
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,759
Speaker 2: against the wall there every day, not just on Sunday.

2232
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 1: We had some That's how though.

2233
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 2: What was what was it like watching him and Jerry

2234
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 2: Rice on the same team.

2235
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 4: Well, Jerry Rice, you know, I mean there's I don't

2236
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 4: think there's any ever been another player in the history

2237
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 4: of the game that has the work ethic that guy has.

2238
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 1: You know, that's the guy that runs the mile hill

2239
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, he runs like, that's that guy that

2240
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: runs the mile hill.

2241
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 3: Well, I know Jerry that we talked about that that

2242
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 3: one time.

2243
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he he did it every day and

2244
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 4: and and walk throughs whatever. It didn't matter. He was

2245
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 4: the same. Like I don't know if I can say

2246
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 4: out about anybody else I've ever ever run. I never

2247
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 4: saw him take a lazy step. I mean honestly, it's crazy.

2248
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:10,480
Speaker 4: It's almost like like people like say that and like exaggerate.

2249
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating. Never took a lazy step.

2250
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 4: No, he he won me. Why he finished. He caught

2251
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 4: the ball and finished to the goal line and walked

2252
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 4: through us. I mean he was taped up.

2253
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, man, come on, man to walk through He's

2254
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 1: taped up and walk through. Say that, Oh yeah, yeah,

2255
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 1: that's wild. He was going he's one of the best ever?

2256
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 1: He is? Is he the best? The rest ever? Ever?

2257
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 3: I think he is. I mean I taped up and

2258
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 3: walked through running the end zone. I think in his position,

2259
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:40,719
Speaker 3: he's got to be the best player.

2260
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 1: You weren't. I could tell you that you weren't. I

2261
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 1: played defense. I couldn't finish the end zone. You know

2262
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 1: what I mean? You coulda off go to the tag off. Well,

2263
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 1: you couldn't catch either either. Bullshit, dude, wide receiver. I

2264
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: was all state widers.

2265
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 2: I did on defense because I dropped some easy picks.

2266
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 2: Bro jump some easy ones, easy ones. That's why he's

2267
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: referring to.

2268
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 1: That's how you want h Yeah, what happened you? Honestly?

2269
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 2: Like I was covering this back to the like he

2270
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 2: came up to do an option a round and I

2271
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 2: was covering him. He ran out and so I'm just

2272
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 2: covering him. It was like the end of the game.

2273
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 2: So I didn't think the ball is getting thrown too

2274
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,599
Speaker 2: do you obviously never want to think that. But as

2275
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 2: I'm turning around to see if the ball gets thrown,

2276
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 2: the balls being thrown. It just hits me in the face,

2277
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 2: so I just didn't have time to catch it.

2278
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 1: And then there was that easy layup that one.

2279
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I'm probably just trying to survive,

2280
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because you're probably pissed off

2281
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 2: even though we won the fucking game. Remember remember Alfonso

2282
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 2: that the year against Colorado, he gave up the touch

2283
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:45,600
Speaker 2: on at the end of the game. I mean we

2284
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 2: were the game was over and Alfonso gave up a touchdown. Basically,

2285
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 2: it was was lazy on the play, but both.

2286
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Listen more than lazy. I was ready to kill him. Yeah,

2287
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 1: oh yeah.

2288
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 2: Both comes in and he goes, you ever fucking do

2289
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 2: ship like that again, I'll send your as back to Georgia.

2290
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 2: Like you finished, like you know, finishing to the end

2291
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 2: of the game. Yeah, you finished.

2292
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 4: He's just oh he basically took the playoff. And let

2293
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 4: me tell you, Fonzo.

2294
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 1: Was a Yeah, he was a monster. And it doesn't

2295
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,440
Speaker 1: sound like it sounds like he really wasn't a competitor.

2296
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: Oh no, but he's.

2297
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 4: Really It was so out of character for him, and

2298
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 4: he took the playoff and gave up like a what

2299
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 4: like a seventy five year bomb.

2300
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the game was over. Yeah, but Colorado

2301
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 1: was still you know, bombs fuming. I did. I couldn't.

2302
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't even think. I don't think I didn't even

2303
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: enjoy the win. Yeah happened.

2304
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of those ones where I'm like, I you

2305
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 4: know that that can't happen.

2306
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, I don't even think I enjoyed the win.

2307
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 1: Was there ever a time you were mad at Will

2308
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: like that? No, I don't think so.

2309
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 3: So Will was pretty solid from the get go. Other

2310
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 3: than the recruiting bullshit. Yeah yeah.

2311
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 4: Other than yeah, other than he wanted, you know, got

2312
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 4: his hand out all that stuff, the recruiting process, wanted

2313
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 4: to get that shit.

2314
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to get that down my house. Yeah. Yeah,

2315
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: Well it was a good dude though. I like that.

2316
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 4: Ye, he was posting rap songs and stuff when he

2317
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 4: was like on his Twitter and back that wasn't there

2318
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 4: was no Twitter back then.

2319
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, dub Lamborghini, mercy your chicks, she's so thirsty. No,

2320
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:25,759
Speaker 1: I mean I was pretty suffer.

2321
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:27,759
Speaker 2: There's one time Dobb's yelling at me because I couldn't

2322
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:29,680
Speaker 2: finish the GPP, Like I'm laying on the ground like

2323
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 2: your tad and people are pouring water on me and

2324
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 2: dobs like, oh you think you can lead in front

2325
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 2: of eighty five thousand.

2326
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 1: But you can't. That's the worst, bro, six am or

2327
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 1: something like that. I'm a freshman just getting dummied.

2328
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 3: Do you guys do Matt Jill's in college? But you

2329
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 3: like have a towel and it's like, who can get

2330
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:47,639
Speaker 3: the towlway from the other guy?

2331
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they did this ship like that.

2332
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 3: I had knocked out doing that in college. Really, Oh

2333
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,839
Speaker 3: Temple shot elbow sleeping?

2334
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 1: You guys do that? Yeah?

2335
01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 2: Bo only caught me kind of being lazy one time

2336
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 2: in practice and he's just like.

2337
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: You think you're in the fucking NFL. You It was like, baby,

2338
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 1: what's up?

2339
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:14,719
Speaker 3: Remember the Remember the what was it the Virginia Tech game?

2340
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 1: Your freshman year? Yeah, well we're recher freshman year. Did

2341
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 1: he start his rest freshman year? Yeah?

2342
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 4: This was his freshman year, freshman fresh and he was

2343
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 4: being red shirted during that year. Oh yeah, yeah, We'll

2344
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 4: play in Virginia Tech and our fourth game kind of

2345
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 4: screws up a couple of times and he's standing there

2346
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 4: and I, you know.

2347
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: Get coughed and ready. You know, I'm standing there, bro, Dude,

2348
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 1: turn around. I look at him and he was looking

2349
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 1: at me, and I said, you ready to go? And

2350
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 1: he was like m hm hole. Part of the game.

2351
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: Was it like second chor third quarter, third quarter? I

2352
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 1: mean it was like you're standing. It was been standing

2353
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:56,720
Speaker 1: for so long.

2354
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was like the first big game, like

2355
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 2: of Bo's ten. Ye, like, because you know, the first

2356
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 2: four games you're kind of playing like easing in. You

2357
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 2: play a big nine couple. That was our big non

2358
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 2: conference game, Tours and Rose Virginia Tech and I think

2359
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 2: we did. We win the It was like thirty. But yeah,

2360
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 2: it was like, you know, you're in the You're in

2361
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 2: the heat of the battle.

2362
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 1: Dude, get camps the right.

2363
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of standing there like hearing the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, holy ship, do that thing. I almost had

2365
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 1: to go play guard my first game. Really.

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Speaker 3: He has the chiefs our guard give up two sacks

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01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 3: and like, hey, be ready to go play a guard

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, you better get I'm gonna get up

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01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 3: three sacks and what are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: Hey, you guard?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. It was brutal man First round picks

2372
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 3: not playing to go play guard. Yeah, I mean you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean the league.

2374
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Speaker 3: It's like you have seven guys dressing or whatever. So

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01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 3: I was like the first guy in beside center and

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01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 3: they had me. I mean, I'm literally I'm a one

2377
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 3: trick pint. I can only play left tackle. You put

2378
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 3: me a right tackle, It's go ahead. You can run

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01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 3: around the edge all day long. So but during Canda

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01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 3: have me playing let f right guard. They heavy playing

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Speaker 3: everywhere and Andy Leavittrie started off. It started out tough.

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01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 3: I think, you know, someone put him in a blender

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01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 3: a couple times, and it was like early in the

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Speaker 3: game and he's like, you're ready to go at guard,

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01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking myself, I'm about to be out of

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Speaker 3: the league before I even started my career.

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Speaker 1: One shit.

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01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 3: Ever, I was freaking out. Thankfully, Andy finished the game.

2389
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 3: Shout at Andy lev Trie, I got to have some garbage.

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01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:28,959
Speaker 3: No he retired though, so shout out yeah. That was terrifying.

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01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 3: Though I never was in a situation like that as

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01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 3: a as a freshman because I was like two fifty

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Speaker 3: getting into college. I was always in the sweatsuit, hanging

2394
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 3: out a little hungover watching the game.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome. It's a good time, man, I was.

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01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 3: I was late to the Ohio State game my freshman

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01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:48,720
Speaker 3: year anyway, so that's who you were going to deal with.

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Speaker 3: If I went to Nebraska, it wouldn't have happened.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I overslept.

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01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 3: I literally ran like two miles to the stadium and

2401
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 3: showed up like thirty minutes before kickoff. We didn't make

2402
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 3: a Bowl giame that year, so after the game it

2403
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 3: was like, everyone go home. Never got in trouble for it.

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01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 1: But the looks I got during the game, Oh, it

2405
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 1: was brutal stuff. Who was Who was the coach when

2406
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 1: you were there? Was? It? Was it?

2407
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 3: Brady No, rich Rodriguez, Okay, rich Ardriguez for the first

2408
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 3: two years and then Brady Hope for the last three.

2409
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 3: So I mean we went to a Sugar Bowl one time,

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01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 3: played Virginia Tech won like in a triple overtime on

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Speaker 3: a kick. Brady did a good job there, Yeah, I

2412
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 3: thought he did. And he was a great guy too.

2413
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed my time with Brady rich Rod. I

2414
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 3: don't think Richard got a fair shot from the kick

2415
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 3: go because it was really like nineties eighties. We want

2416
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 3: Michigan to be like that, and he came in He's

2417
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 3: like that, dude's all spread right, you know. He came

2418
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 3: from from West Virginia and he started doing the spread.

2419
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 3: He had a lot of tools though, he said when

2420
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 3: he started getting knew what they were hiring, and yeah,

2421
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 3: that's that's what he did. He was the best at it.

2422
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:51,759
Speaker 3: But you know yet these people hiring, but the fans

2423
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 3: might not agree with that. Higher I think from the

2424
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,600
Speaker 3: gek did. They wanted Harball from the very beginning. The

2425
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 3: whole time I was there, like we need to get Harball,

2426
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,600
Speaker 3: I need to get Harriball. And now he's there and

2427
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 3: the success where it hasn't been great.

2428
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2429
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 3: I think their first couple of years or won nine

2430
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 3: ten games. But last year were we looking up and

2431
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 3: Portanly was on like two and four? Yeah, it was

2432
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 3: really what's up stuff? To win nine and things? Is

2433
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 3: people think it's easy, it's not. They find out real

2434
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:21,679
Speaker 3: quick it's not. Yeah, isn't it's portantly a Michigan guy. Yeah, yeah,

2435
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 3: he was at the same time Brady was. Yeah, both

2436
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 3: that hell of careers.

2437
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 1: Man. You had a little altercation of portan HQ, didn't you.

2438
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 1: I mean not really.

2439
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 2: I felt like he was kind of wanting some kind

2440
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 2: of altercation.

2441
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 1: He want the cameras run. Yeah, so he won a

2442
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: little fistfight.

2443
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: Verbally, yeah, and you I mean I saw him, Oh,

2444
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 2: what's up, boss, and I'm boss.

2445
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how it called her my boss? Yeah,

2446
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 1: like actually your boss.

2447
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:50,720
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I mean yeah, but I'm like, oh,

2448
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 2: you're here at HQ and he's like, yeah, where else

2449
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 2: would I be.

2450
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, I don't know. I've seen you

2451
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 1: in Miami a lot, Like yeah, it wasn't a question

2452
01:47:58,560 --> 01:47:59,640
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, I don't know.

2453
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 2: He said, oh yeah, yeah at h Q, and so

2454
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm just like that's awesome, and yeah, check it out

2455
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 2: on under the Hood subscribed to you, but yeah.

2456
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 1: It's on under the Hood.

2457
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 2: And then I felt him when he was walking over,

2458
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 2: and I was like, it's up, Dave.

2459
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 1: I just felt like he.

2460
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 2: Was just like, you know, interested, looking seeing what's up.

2461
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: He gets some content of you.

2462
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. But I didn't have

2463
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 2: the boy with me, you know what I mean, Yeah, he's.

2464
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 1: Right. I'm thinking, Hey, it's all good man, don't need

2465
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 1: to have your guard up like you boys don't know.

2466
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 1: But you're safe. Yeah, yeah, that's funny. But Bo has.

2467
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 2: Been on a part of my take. Did Danny Woodhead

2468
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 2: w Vanny Woodhead during Great Week?

2469
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 1: He's done the Peachure review with Paul. You've done it all? Huh.

2470
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 4: I've done a couple of those things. Had They came

2471
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 4: in to do Rough and Rowdy in Youngstown and so

2472
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 4: interesting look right? And did the uh did a review?

2473
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 1: Huh? And Rough and Rowdies are an interesting look? Right?

2474
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 3: Oh you think that we're out there in Miami, dude.

2475
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 3: It was a different little a different deal for sure.

2476
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 4: Oh it was awesome. I enjoyed it. The one guy,

2477
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 4: the one guy what was it? What was one guy's name?

2478
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 4: They called him? I think they had him on a

2479
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 4: few other times. They Raccoon boy. They eventually he was

2480
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 4: this kid from Youngstown. I was like, he came out

2481
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 4: of a trash kid. I was like one of the

2482
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 4: first fights I know. I was like, I'm gonna enjoy this.

2483
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 4: This is pretty good. They keep it going too. It's

2484
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 4: not like there's a big in between fight things. They

2485
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 4: just know they kick him out. They just keep going.

2486
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 1: Guys are exhausted just throwing haymakers.

2487
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's some of them, like you can tell,

2488
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 4: Like they throw bunches for twenty seconds and they're spent.

2489
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 1: It's all. They're done. It's over. Oh yeah, this is

2490
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 1: the kid coming out. There is there's raccoon Yeah, rack,

2491
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: there is this raccoon boy.

2492
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. But I think they got him to come to

2493
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:55,680
Speaker 3: a couple other things. They like they he ended up

2494
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 3: going to a couple. It was a little celebrity. He's

2495
01:49:57,720 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 3: a rough, routy celebrity. It was not he was an

2496
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 3: awful fighter. Like these guys, he's trying to get out.

2497
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 3: This guy please have them moment.

2498
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 1: Oh that's him.

2499
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's raccoon boy. How does he get out? I

2500
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 4: showed up at a wedding. He was at a wedding

2501
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 4: I was at. I was like, they were like, hey, coach,

2502
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 4: that's raccoon Bully. I'm like, no way.

2503
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:20,639
Speaker 3: He didn't think this part through. Yeah, comes out wearing

2504
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 3: a leather vest.

2505
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 1: It's not very athletic. Obviously, did he win this fight?

2506
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2507
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 4: I think they it was basically they were both so

2508
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 4: tired after throwing punches for the first fifteenth that.

2509
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: Oh hey, glove tap love that got to bounce to him.

2510
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 1: A little boy look at the ponytail. Boy, I had

2511
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 1: to cut this off. I have to leave. I don't

2512
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 1: have to cut it off like you guys can still

2513
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: chat or whatever.

2514
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Speaker 2: But I have a worker's comp hearing that I got

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Speaker 2: to be pressent for in a polo shirt.

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Speaker 1: the old knee.

2519
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Speaker 2: Ray.

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