1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: Straight Firefam? It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Monday, 4 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: December eighteenth. We are one week away from Christmas. I'm 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: so excited. Obviously there will be no Christmas podcast. We 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: do have to do the Herd on the twenty sixth. 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: I gotta check the schedule on the twenty fifth. I'd 8 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: rather not record on Christmas night. I'm sure Rob would 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: not want to, but I guess we'll cross that bridge 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: a little later in the week. Gotta start the podcast 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: on a massive, massive positive, like what a monster weekness 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: was in gambling four and one in the contest, but 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: I feel like our guest Adam Churnoff gave out a 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: million winners. The only miss was that Rams Commander's over Frickin' 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 2: Rams and Kyrien Williams and his fumbles missed. I think 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: it was forty nine and fifty with the numbers, I 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: got it landed forty eight. If Washington, I mean Rivera 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: goes to kick it gets blocked. They're making fun of 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: him because he didn't go for two like the analytics 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: say you're opposed to. Then I would have got a 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: hit and a push whatever. You can't win them all, 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: but I tell I thought I was gonna win everything. 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: Just an amazing weekend. Unbelievably won both of our fantasy matchups. 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: One of them. I had to start Nick Mullins and 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: somebody named Wix on the Packers. I don't even know 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: his first name, but Rob g'z Raiders came through me, huge, 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: huge on Thursday night. Rob hasn't got a chance to 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: chime in. Maybe we'll touch on the Raiders later, but 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: we obviously have to start the week fifteen podcasts where 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: the favorites when a staggering ten to three and two 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: against the spread, favors just continue to dominate. And that 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: includes the Buffalo Bills, who took the Dallas Cowboys out 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: behind the woodshed and gave them a beatdown. I mean, folks, 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: this was over early third quarter. You could say half, 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: but you never want to rule anybody out. The Dallas 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: Cowboys get smoked, and a lot of questions begin to swirl. 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: I mashed on the brakes, you know, right after the game, like, 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: oh boy, they got problems. And then you know, some 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: sanity prevails and you're like, all right, it's not the end. 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: Of the world for Dallas. Buffalo looked like a train 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: and Dallas was just unlucky. They look like those videos 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 2: you know where like there's a car stuck on the 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: train tracks and everybody gets out of the car and 44 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: then the train just comes through. It just destroys it. 45 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: Like that's what happened to the Dallas Cowboys. I mean 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: James Cook running wild. I mean the guy had two 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one scrimmageyards. The Cowboys had not allowed 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: a one hundred yard rusher this season. James Cook, Dalvin's 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: little brother, had one hundred at halftime the game of 50 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: his career, and the Cowboys were never in it. Now 51 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: here's the scary part. Okay, all week I told you 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: putting its everywhere, said listen, Dallas outdoors, they're not friendly 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: confines of being at home. Keep an eye on his 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: Buffalo team. We talked the last two weeks about betting 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: on Buffalo to when the AFS East Buffalo to make 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: the playoff, Buffalo to come out of the AFC, And 57 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: you can't argue. After a dismantling of a red hot 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: Cowboys team where Josh Allen completed seven passes for ninety 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: four yards. He joked after the game that he was 60 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: the kid who was part of the school project who 61 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: didn't contribute anything, and the team got an a I 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: know you've all been there. I've been there, but not 63 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: I wasn't really one of those guys. Just a thorough 64 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: beat down. The Dallas Cowboys through three quarters had ninety 65 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: two yards of total offense. I have here in the notes, 66 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: worst in a game since twenty ten. And here's where 67 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: it gets a little scary. So I'll get positive and 68 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: a second Cowboys fans relax. So part of the pressure 69 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: on Dak Prescott was like they were getting home with 70 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: a four man rush. Zach Martin left the game hurt. 71 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: Obviously that's big. But when you get home with four 72 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 2: guys and get sacks on third down because you're confusing 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: Dak in the secondary, mixing up zone and man like 74 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: that ain't good. Dak looked confused. Everybody's killed and I 75 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: had to like stop looking at Twitter during the game 76 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: because Everybody's like, oh, Cam Newton was right, he's a 77 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: game manager. And then like to the first first two 78 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: Jibbroni's I was like, yeah, Rock Purty too, I'm Jared 79 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: GoF yesterday as well. I didn't say anything, and then 80 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 2: you know the torn of diarrhea comes out of these guys. 81 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: Bounce Dak. How about this one. Dak is now six 82 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: and thirteen in his career on the road against teams 83 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: over five hundred, six and thirteen. Now you could say, okay, 84 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: his career has span many years. Who cares? Okay, fine, 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: you know what, pick yourself up off the mat, head 86 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: down to Miami this weekend on the road against the 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: team over five hundred. Miami took apart. My jets eliminated them. 88 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: We're not doing jets on this podcast. I don't give 89 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: a shit about that team right now. Nobody cares about them. 90 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: They stink. They missed the playoffs again, good riddance. One 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: other note before Rob t gets all excited about this 92 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's juggernaut, there was someone missing on the cowb 93 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: who kind of mattered. His name is mister Hankins, and 94 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: I know he's not the MVP of the team. He's 95 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: not even a top two or three defensive player. Everybody 96 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: talks about Bland, everybody talks about Michael Parsons. Hankins is 97 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: their big DT, their big run stopper. In the middle. 98 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: He is a factor. He missed the game with a 99 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: knee injury, and it looked shaky stopping the run. Now, 100 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: you could also argue Dallas as I think Glaser was 101 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: the first to report this. A big flu bug swept 102 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: through the Cowboys team and like maybe half a dozen 103 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: dozen guys were impacted. Listen, it's this time of the year. 104 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: Everybody gets sick. You know, you're not one hundred percent. 105 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: You try to plow through it. It's me, it's one 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: thing for me, like a rec league basketball guy playing 107 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: in men's leagues or playing pickup on weekends. I'm sick, 108 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna play through it. And it's fine. You 109 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: play for an hour or two whatever. It's not the 110 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: end of the world, you know what, It's just another day. 111 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: This is the NFL, Like, you know, sixty minutes, lots 112 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: of money at stake, lots on the line, probably twenty 113 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: five million people watching. Like, that's tough when you're sick 114 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: and down to dumps. I'm not I'm not making excuses 115 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. Buffalo beat their ass, But when you 116 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: factor in the Hankins missing in the middle and Buffalo 117 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 2: running for over two hundred yards, when Dallas two hundred 118 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: and sixty six, when Dallas hadn't allowed one hundred yard 119 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: rusher all season. I think that's a factor. And then 120 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: this illness. I'm not giving Dallas a pass because you 121 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: know I was on Buffalo. I'll just say, if they 122 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: go ahead to Miami and get their doors blown off, Remember, 123 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: all three of their losses are kind of bad. They 124 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: lost Arizona on the road, they got smacked by San 125 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: fran on the road, and now they get smacked by 126 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 2: Buffalo in the road every other game. I mean, they're 127 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: pretty much dominating. The close loss to the Eagles on 128 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: the road. I don't think they go to Miami and 129 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: get smoked. That would be my guess. Miami is coming 130 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: off a thirty to nothing beat down of the Jets. 131 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: That kind of game where oh, one team's coming off 132 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: a shutout win, the team is coming off an embarrassing 133 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: loss like this feels like an auto play on Dallas. 134 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: I will tell you the line as I call it 135 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: up here. Dallas goes to Miami. We don't know Tyreek 136 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: Hill's status, and as we record this, Miami is a 137 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: one point favorite at home against Dallas. I'll tell you 138 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: right now, I'm looking at the Cowboys, but I'm not 139 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: automatically taking them Rob. 140 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't blame you. I mean, I don't 141 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: know why anybody would feel great about Dallas after the 142 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: performance they just had. And it sucks because you and 143 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 1: I had said last week we were singing their praises 144 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: and how impressed that they looked, and how Dak Prescott 145 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: was looking like an MVP favorite. I had him one. 146 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: I believe you had him two. So we were both 147 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: very high on Dallas Cowboys. And shame on me for 148 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: not realizing that the Dallas Cowboys may be the most 149 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: Jeculin high team in NFL history. Okay, the Cowboys seven 150 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: to zero at AT and T home Stadium this season, averaging 151 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: just under forty points a game former and thirty one 152 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: yards per game, absolutely dominant. One of the great teams 153 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: in all of football, not just this season, but any season. 154 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: When you're putting up those kind of numbers and you 155 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: have that kind of record, that's all time great at 156 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: home for the Dallas Cowboys. On the road though, three 157 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: and four, averaging twenty one point seven points per game 158 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: and only three hundred and four total yards per game. 159 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: All Right, they've outscored opponents at home by plus one 160 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: seventy one. On the road, they are minus four at home, 161 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: their turnover margin plus ten and on the road minus one. 162 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: And I know this seems like a lot of numbers 163 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: to throw out. You, well, let me throw it to 164 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: you in this context, all right. In the Super Bowl era, 165 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 1: the largest home road point differential in NFL history is 166 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two Steelers at minus twenty home versus road splits. 167 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: The Cowboys this season have the third largest home road 168 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: split in NFL history, at minus eighteen point two point 169 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: one per game. Okay, you can say things about the 170 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins because they have this reputation as being a 171 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: paper tiger. They beat up on bad teams. Apologies to 172 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: your New York Jets, and that's fair, and that's fine, 173 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: I understand it. But it's one thing to be great 174 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: against the bad teams and bad against the good teams, 175 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: because in all actuality, in any sport you play, the 176 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: goal is beat up on the shitty ones. If you 177 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: play five hundred against the good teams, you're probably going 178 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: to be one of the upper echelon teams in whatever 179 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: sport you're in. Baseball, basketball, football, whatever. The other argument 180 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: of that is, you want to win all your home games, 181 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: which Dallas is doing, and you want to be above average, 182 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: win three out of four, sixty six percent, whatever it 183 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: is on the road, and that's usually the mark of 184 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: a great team. The Dallas Cowboys are historically great on 185 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: one end and just flat out bad on the other. 186 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: And this wouldn't be much of a problem except for 187 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: the fact that all indications are they are going to 188 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: be playing on the road in the postseason if they 189 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: finish with the same record as the Philadelphia Eagle. I 190 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: know jayleen Hurst is kind of going through. He might 191 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: not even play tonight. But if they have the same record, 192 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: Philadelphia wins that division, which means Dallas is gonna have 193 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: to go on the road in the postseason. And they 194 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: are absolutely horrendous relatively speaking on the road. This is 195 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: not good for Dallas right now. 196 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like as of now, Dallas would visit 197 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay in the opening round. Now. They did go there, 198 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: I think it was last year and smacked them pretty good. 199 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: Was that Frady's final? Okay, thirty one to ten, it 200 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: was a beatdown. Listen, I was gonna talk about Baker 201 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: We'll see if we can get there. Baker Mayfield been 202 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: one of the sneaky good stories in the NFL this season. Man, 203 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: I don't think that's a layup. But the Bucks defense 204 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: is not good. The Dallas defense should feast. I don't 205 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: think they're in that much trouble there, but you're right. 206 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: The following week they would likely visit Detroit, assuming Detroit's 207 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: able to beat Minnesota or Rams could be feisty. But yeah, 208 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: I don't know that Dallas could go into San France 209 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: and win that game. I mean, there's nothing I've seen 210 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: from Dallas on the road that has shown that. Now, 211 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: let's quickly go to Dak Prescott, Like I just wonder, 212 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you got to fade the hype and 213 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: the narrative in the hype all week was Dax MVP, 214 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: Dak's a favorite, blah blah blah, and it was you 215 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: half expected this this kind of thing was coming. I 216 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: think we both think Dak is a good quarterback. Ultimately 217 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: limited in the postseason, Like I need to see it. 218 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny the whole Cam Newton game manager, 219 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: game changer thing. There was a play in the Ravens 220 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: game on Sunday Night Football where Lamar like scrambled out 221 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: of a sack, it was amazing, and then just chucks 222 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: it up for his tight end into double coverage. Normally, 223 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: you know, twenty nine quarterbacks in that league throw that 224 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: and it's picked off. Lamar just got lucky that the 225 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: tight end pulled it away. It was like the announcers 226 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: were freaking out. I want to play by Lamar like 227 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: it was lucky as hell and not sustainable. I feel 228 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: like Dak, that's one of those plays that Cam Newton 229 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: think is a game changer. Like you escape a sack, 230 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 2: run around, and then chuck it up and you pick 231 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: up thirty yards first in goal. That's a game changing play. 232 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: Zack would have been minus eight or whatever. I don't 233 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of quarterbacks can do that. But 234 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: I don't know Rob that those plays are sustainable, which 235 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: is why I'm so pro game manager and Brock Perdy, 236 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: who is not making superstar highlight reel plays but just 237 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: making the right throws and you know, making good decisions, 238 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: not turning it over, and Dak is largely doing that. 239 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: I thought the Bills were all over him. This was 240 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: a bad matchup. Zach Martin the Zach Martin injury felt 241 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: like it took a toll. The Dallas offensive line could 242 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: not protect at all. I don't want to overreact and 243 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: kill Dak here. I will say the game against Miami, 244 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: he needs to rebound right. He pooped his pants against 245 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: San fran I don't want to say this was a 246 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: pants soiling. They never really had a chance and not 247 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 2: like he was terrible again Samford and I think he 248 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: had a couple of picks, maybe three, But ultimately, Rob, 249 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: I don't think this loss was on Dak was it? 250 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: Would you pin it on Dak Prescott? The NFL season 251 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: is going strong and DraftKings Sportsbook is hooking new customers 252 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: up with an offer that's even stronger. 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I mean, when a team 293 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: like Buffalo, who's not known for being a great running 294 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: football team, can just jam it down your throat over 295 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: and over and over and gaining these not just like 296 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: three yards in the cloud of dust like Cook was 297 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: getting chunk yards. And that's why Josh Allen had that 298 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: viral quote after the game. And then offensively at one 299 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: time in the third quarter. They said that Buffalo had 300 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: sacked him like three times, but it felt like he 301 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: had been sack six or seven because they had no momentum. 302 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: Anytime he snapped the ball, there was guys in his face. 303 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: And you know, dak Met up until yesterday was having 304 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: an all time great, you know, two month stretch. Basically 305 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: he threw two touchdowns and seven straight games like that's 306 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: that's even in today's NFL. That's almost unheard of. And 307 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: so for him to have a come doown game, it's 308 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: it's not just on him at all, not at all. 309 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say if you want to give a 310 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: little bit of caution for Cowboys fans, you just got 311 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: run over by Buffalo and James Cook your next two 312 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: games at Miami. Miami's a top five rushing offense, right 313 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: he moster by the way. I mean, he's got like 314 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: twenty touchdowns. I think he's tied with Cemac for the league, 315 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: and they got eight chan back there. They run the 316 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: ball a lot. After that is Detroit and they're a 317 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: top five run offense with Montgomery and Gibbs. So we're 318 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: gonna learn a lot about Dallas here in the coming 319 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: two weeks. I think that Hankins injury is one you 320 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: certainly have to watch. All right, let's get to the 321 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: best team in the NFL and who I think should 322 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: win the MVP. Brock Perty. He's now the favorite. Those lines, 323 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, they just moved the lines, put a 324 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 2: headline on it, and hope people bet into a rotten market. 325 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: When Purdy was twenty five to one earlier this season, 326 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: freaking week one on this podcast, I was so impressed 327 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: with Perdy. I mentioned the word MVP. Go listen to 328 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: it like you could see, like damn okay, it wasn't 329 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: a one year wonder. And then he just keeps slaying 330 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: and Purty another monster game, four touchdown passes, and he's 331 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: so damn humble afterward. Afterward, brock Purty, Oh, I think 332 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey's the MVP. He just does so much for us, 333 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: which is just genius, just smart deflected off me. Hey man, 334 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm on the aw shucks kind of guy. Don't need 335 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: to hype me up. Meanwhile, brock Purty still number one 336 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: in the league in pass completion. Browning doesn't have enough 337 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: games to qualify. Brock Purty number one in yards per 338 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: attempt nine point nine. Rob I saw an insane stat 339 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: This didn't totally make sense. But brock Pery has such 340 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: a good completion percentage in these nine point nine it's 341 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: like one of the greatest all time. When you're I 342 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: mean number two is Jake Browning at eight seven, then 343 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: two at eighty five, nine point nine yards per attempt 344 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: on over three hundred and fifty passes. It's incredible. So 345 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: he's first in completions, number two in yards per attempt, 346 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: number one BR attempt, I'm sorry, number one in yards 347 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: p attempt, number one in QBR dak fell to a 348 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: distant two, and he's number one in quarterback rating. Again, 349 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: these are just for data points. We can go on 350 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: success rate EPA like you could look into whatever you want. 351 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: Nobody's been as good as brock perty That's the bottom line, guys, 352 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: that's it. And then you go, oh, Trent william Yeah, 353 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: Trent Williams okay, and Christian McCaffrey A deebo Samuel and Okay, 354 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: I'll just put this out there. Trevor Lawrence, he didn't 355 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: have another great game. Two wacky fumbles, lack of situational 356 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: awareness here at the end of the half, and Lawrence 357 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: ain't having a great season. And I like Trevor Lawrence 358 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: a lot. Is the generational talent I think he is. 359 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: This is what year three and it's like, okay, we 360 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: had the Urban Meyers stinker. Then last year they make 361 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: the playoffs, they win a game, they pushed, the Chiefs lose. 362 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 2: You expected Lawrence to make the jump like number one 363 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: seed in play and he has not been great. And 364 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: I actually Rob saw somebody put out there Jaggs have 365 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: to go out and get some help for Trevor Lawrence. 366 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: I was like, whoa hold on what you got? Travis 367 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: Etn who's the first round pick? He's he's awesome, top 368 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: seven eight back in the league. He's very good. You 369 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: go out and get Calvin Ridley, who's excellent. You spend 370 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: a lot of money on Christian Kirk. Okay, Zay Jones 371 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: is pretty damn good. The tight end is Evan Ingram, 372 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: who is I mean, not top notch, but he's a 373 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: good tight end. They've got a great skill position group 374 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: and you're not You're saying like Trevor doesn't have enough weapons, 375 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: Like are we really doing that? So now it's brock 376 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: Perdy has so many weapons it's not about Purty, but 377 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: Trevor doesn't have enough. Rob, why the hell? And again, 378 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: I'm not picking on the guy who put this out there. 379 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 2: I should mention his name, Jordan Reid. He's looks like 380 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: an NFL draft guy for ESPN. Okay, I'm not bashing him. 381 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I saw that. I'm like the excuses 382 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 2: we continue to make for some people and then the 383 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: lack of respect we continue to give others. Rob. It 384 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: just kind of irks me. And the brock Purty slander's 385 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: coming this week. You can just bet your bottom dollar 386 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: brock Purty. Oh come on, he even ceted himself. But 387 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: Godfrey's the MVP. I almost can't do this anymore. Rob. 388 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to continue to waste bandid on it. 389 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: But like, this is the number one team in the league. 390 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: And just for anybody who's gonna say, who wha wait, 391 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: the defense with the Cardinals rush for two hundred and 392 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: I have the number here because I wrote it down. 393 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm a dork two hundred and twenty four yards. By 394 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: the way, I'm the idiot who bet When Kyler Murray 395 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: came out, I thought he was injured and they were 396 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: gonna just shut him down. Hey, we don't want to 397 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: risk it. Clayton tune comes in. I've seen Clayton Looney tune. Okay, 398 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: instantly I bet Niners minus twenty and they were only 399 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 2: up by like fourteen. It was stupid, just a little bit. 400 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: And then of course the Cardinals score with like fourteen 401 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: seconds left in the game to cover the minus twenty 402 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: in game bet. I was ah, it was house funny whatever. 403 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: This forty nine Ers team was missing their top two 404 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: defensive tackles, gave up two hundred and twenty four yards 405 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: on the ground to Arizona and still kick their ass. 406 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: They were up by over twenty in the final minute 407 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: before winning by sixteen. Okay, this team is a beast. 408 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: I don't rob rob six to ozho hot streak. They're 409 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: averaging thirty four point five yards per game. Oh and 410 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 2: I just found the stat in the Super Bowl era 411 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: the highest yards per attempt for a single season. Kurt 412 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: Warner was number one nine point eight eight two. Brock 413 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: Purty currently number one above Kurt Warner and the Greatest 414 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: Show on Turf nine point eight eight three. So again, 415 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: Kurt Warner's a Hall of Famer. It's just one stat 416 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: that's how historically good brock Purty's been. 417 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And for all the people who say, well, you know, 418 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: the reason why he has these yards open attemp is 419 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: because all this yeah yardage, right, it's the yak yardage. 420 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: It's Debo, it's Eu gets Kittle, it's McCaffrey. Brock Purty, 421 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: sorry to burst your bubble, has a lower YAK percentage 422 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: than MVP season Aaron Rodgers number one, MVP, Aaron Rodgers 423 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: number two, the last two MVP season Patrick Mahomes. So 424 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: brock Party is doing not doing it himself, but he's 425 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: doing it on par or even better than the previous 426 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: three MVPs. Okay, just get that out of the way. 427 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: Outside of the Lamar Jackson unanimous season, he's right there 428 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: with all the other MVPs. He actually gets less of 429 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: his percentage of YAK than the other guys do. I'm 430 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: so frustrated that you brought up Trevor Lawrence because that 431 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: was like my ace in the hole, Like this is 432 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: gonna be aid drop on j Matt's head because Trevor Lawrence, 433 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: outside of like a six game stretch last season when 434 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: I think he was fourteen touchdowns, one pick, has been 435 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: the definition of mediocre since he got to the NFL 436 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: okay as of this morning, as of this recording in 437 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: his career, fifty five touchdown passes, fifty five turnovers. His 438 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: passer rating this season is fifteenth. His passing yards per 439 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: game is twelve. He is a middle of the road 440 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: average quarterback, and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm a 441 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: Raiders fan, you're a Jets fan. I'd killed to have 442 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: an average, middle of the road quarterback, right like I 443 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: would just I'd be doing backflips with that if everyone's 444 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,239 Speaker 1: on my quarterback agreed. The problem, though, is because he 445 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: was drafted number one, because he was hyped up as 446 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 1: the greatest prospect since Andrew Luck, that he was one 447 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: of the great all time quarterback prospects we had ever seen, 448 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: and that probably was true if you go back and 449 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: look at it from college. He gets the benefit of 450 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: the doubt all the time. Right, no matter what he 451 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: does or in this case, what he doesn't do, he's 452 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: gonna be viewed in this prism as being an upper 453 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: echelon quarterback because he fits them of what you would 454 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: expect a great quarterback to look like. He's big, he's strong, 455 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: he throws a good ball, he's handsome, he has a 456 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: strong jaw like that kind of stuff. Right, and then 457 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: you have Brock Purty, mister irrelevant, you know, a nondescript 458 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: college career, even if he started a lot of games, 459 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: and no matter what he does, as you mentioned first 460 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: in passer rating first and passing touchdowns first, and TD 461 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: in interception ratio first, and TD to per atten first, 462 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: and yards per atten first and yards per completion first, 463 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: and wins his EPA, the gap between him and Dak 464 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: Prescott is the same gap between Dak and Geno Smith. Okay, 465 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: he is lights out. He has been fantastic all season long, 466 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: even in those three games where he was struggling, he 467 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: was concussed, and he was still leading game winning drive. 468 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: They just happened to miss a field goal. Right. But 469 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: because he's mister irrelevant, because he doesn't look the part, 470 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 1: people have decided he can't possibly be that good. He 471 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: can't possibly be the MVP. Christian McCaffrey is the MVP. 472 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: And that argument alone doesn't make sense to me because 473 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: even if you were to say that Christian McCaffrey is 474 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: a better player, which I would say, so, I think 475 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: Chrisian mcffrey is just a fantastic football player. There is 476 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: no good argument where you could say that Christian McCaffrey, 477 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: as great as he is, has been more valuable to 478 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: his team than the quarterback who leads the NFL in 479 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: like every single major passing category in the year of 480 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. In the Quarterback League NFL, Brock Party, 481 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: with all of his gaudy numbers and his efficiency and 482 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: his wins. Somehow the running back is the guy who's 483 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: most valuable. We need to give Brock purty. If he 484 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: was drafted number two, like Zach Wilson, there would be 485 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: no question. I don't think that Brock Party should win 486 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: the MVP, but because he's mister Irrelevant, people have these 487 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: biases against him, and I just don't get it. 488 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: You got us off on the Lawrence tangent, although I 489 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: technically did by bringing him up, so I know you're 490 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: not gonna like this argument, Rob, Long story short, I'm 491 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 2: willing to give Lawrence a little bit more time. And 492 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: I know the two plus seasons. You're like, wait, you 493 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: guys are done with fields? Well, that's unique. The Bears 494 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: now have the number one overall pick. Like, sorry, it's 495 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: easier to restart the clock than pay fields. Blah blah blah. 496 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, Well you got Aaron Rodgers. He Wilson's not 497 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: supposed to be the starter. Nobody likes him anyway, He's done. 498 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: I looked at one career of a guy who went 499 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: number one, who was thought to be a generational talent. 500 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: And I'm not comparing him to this guy, but number one. 501 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: His name is Peyton Manning. Comes in the league, leads 502 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: the league in picks, They go three and thirteen, he 503 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: turns it around. They get to the playoffs thirteen and three, 504 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: but they lose in the playoffs ten and six, losing 505 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: the playoffs six and ten. So Peyton Manning four years 506 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: in zero playoff wins, five years in zero playoff wins. 507 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning could not win a playoff game until two 508 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 2: thousand and three, his sixth year, and that's the year 509 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: they went to the Super Bowl. But it so if 510 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: you look at his numbers, like he did lead the 511 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: league in yards once and in touchdowns. But if one 512 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: thing that changed a lot for Manning from his first 513 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: five years rob is the turnovers. He led the leaguan interceptions. 514 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: Then it was fifteen, fifteen, twenty three, nineteen. It's a 515 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: lot of freaking interceptions. So what happened? Super Bowl year? 516 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: Down to ten? After that? Ten, ten, ten, nine, fourteen twelve. 517 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: Started to pick up again near the end in Indy, 518 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: but when he was at his best, he cut down 519 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: the turnovers. I don't know. I've never played quarterback in 520 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: the NFL, ROB, I don't know how easy it is 521 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: to simply say, stop throwing interceptions, stop trying to force shit. 522 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, hold on to the damn ball. You had 523 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: one of these seminal runs in college football in the 524 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: last fifty years. With the shout out to Tommy Fraser 525 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: of Nebraska, that game costs me money. I had Florida, Yes, 526 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: you know the game I'm talking about. Tommy Fraser breaks 527 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: fifty tackles on an amazing run. But the Trevor Lawrence 528 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: run in the playoff off against Ohio State, to me, 529 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: I was freaking out. Of course. I had Clemson in 530 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: that game, and I just remember it as, oh my gosh, 531 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: this is a quarterback sprinting away from an entire team. 532 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: What the hell. Trevor Lawrence does the same thing against 533 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 2: the Ravens and then just vomits the ball up in 534 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: the red zone like whoa. He was like it was 535 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: like the ball, it wasn't raining or anything. And then 536 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: he has another fumble that was just a killer. It 537 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: was it was not a great game, and a spotlight 538 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: and a spotlight move spotlight spot there for him. I'll 539 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: just say this, I believe in Lawrence. The only thing 540 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: I heard, Rob that isn't great. Uh and I and 541 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: I didn't use this when I first heard it. But 542 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 2: some of these guys like absolutely love football, eat breathe 543 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: like Peyton Manning. I mean, it's freak about love for football. 544 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: Tom Brady just absolute love everything to him. The one 545 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: thing I heard about Trevor Lawrence say is yeah, he 546 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: loves football, but he doesn't like love it. Look like 547 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: it's everything to him. He's breaking down tape and like 548 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: freaking out about football and how can I get better 549 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: and be the greatest player ever? Like the only thing 550 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: I heard from someone who'd been around him and the 551 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: team was that, yeah, he he likes football. Of course 552 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: he loves it. This is not a knock. It's just that, 553 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Rob? He's like, yeah, 554 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: well it's not every it's not his life. He's very religious, 555 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: he's family guy. He has a life away from football, 556 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: like he is gonna be himself and like football is 557 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: his job, you know. And I'm not saying he's gonna 558 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: be the next Andrew Luck and walk away at thirty 559 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: or whatever, but that was the only thing I heard. 560 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: It's just Peterson is like a football lifer, you know, 561 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: that kind of deal. And I don't know if that 562 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: is Lawrence and I don't think there's friction there or anything. 563 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: I just you know, they're two different people. And like, 564 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how you would find that out about 565 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: somebody coming out of college, Like I don't know, Kayleb Williams, 566 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: do you love Like how do you know if someone 567 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: loves football or not? You got to really really know them, 568 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: and that's kind of sort of impossible. I don't know. Yeah. 569 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: Well again, I don't want to seem like I'm tearing 570 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: down Trevor lns no, because like I said, I would 571 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: love if he was my quarterback, right, I'm right, I 572 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: would be very excited if Trevor Lawrence got traded to 573 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: the Raiders today. And going back to your point about 574 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: whether or not he loves football, I don't know if 575 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: you remember this, but he right before the draft did 576 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: a feature in Sports Illustrated where he said something along 577 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: those lines where it was like, that's not what drives me? 578 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: Is you know? Winning football is not the primary focus 579 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 1: in my life. And friend of the podcast for end 580 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: of the show, Daniel Kelly, who is a scout for 581 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: the Jets. Remember he said as soon as I heard 582 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: that quote, it solidified my stance that are his stance 583 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence is going to be a bust. 584 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: Now. 585 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he's been a bust type quarterback, no, 586 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: but you know it's it's pretty well documented that he's 587 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: one of those Nikola jokicch tis where he's like, I'm 588 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: good at it. It provides me a good living i'd 589 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: want to be. I'm gonna give all my effort into it. 590 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: But to say that my life is defined by what 591 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: I do in this sport would be incorrect. He's one 592 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: of those guys. 593 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, over under one and a half Super Bowl appearances 594 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: for Trevor Lawrence in his career, oh way under way. 595 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: So you're saying zero, I guess if you have to 596 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: said it at half for me to even think about it. 597 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, I mean he's up against Burrow 598 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: and Mahomes. We'll see who Herbert's get gets as a coach. 599 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: Lamar Jatt, like all these guys are his age. Like 600 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough, like when it was Brady and Peyton, 601 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: it was it's tough to crack through, right, Yeah, I 602 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: mean it's not gonna be easy. I would say one 603 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: and a half. I mean, but what have. 604 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: You seen that makes you confident that he's a multiple 605 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: super Bowl caliber quarterback or Super Bowl appearance caliber quarter. 606 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: I mean, just the ability to make every throw when 607 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: he has big screw ups. I undaunted. I want to 608 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 2: go on a Baker Mayfield rant after this. But like 609 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 2: he he seems fearless, Like you see a guy like 610 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson when he gets sacked in the air as 611 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: a fumble, it's like totally shook, like he's seen a ghost. 612 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: You know, it's I mean, some of these guys, listen, 613 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 2: the spotlight is bright. He just doesn't seem phased by anything. 614 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: I I mean, I commanded the offense. I feel like 615 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: he can I feel like there's really nothing he can't do. 616 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: I mean, when you look at them last yesterday against Ravens. 617 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: Drive down, that guy hits the upright miss drive, another 618 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: missfield goal. Then he had his fumble, very random. Then 619 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: they lose track of the clock. The guy's tackled and 620 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: bounds no points like they should have had at least 621 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: minimum ten points, maybe thirteen in the first half like that. 622 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: This is just fluky, unlucky stuff. But yeah, I'm a 623 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: believer in Lawrence, I'm not sold on him. Football is back. 624 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: No more preseason games. The regular season is here. While 625 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: we all love watching our favorite teams on television, there 626 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: is nothing better than being in a game live and 627 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: in person. 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I 647 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: think it pays fourteen thousand dollars if you win. I 648 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: don't think I can win. I'm six out. I have 649 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: Seattle tonight three and a half. You can't see the 650 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: other guy's picks because you can change him up until kickoff. 651 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm assuming everybody's gonna have Seattle with the Philly injury. 652 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: But in this pick them thing, I had green Bay. 653 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: The guy who's first for whatever reason, I don't know 654 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: who he is. He apparently's won it in the past 655 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: based on an email, but he basically just goes with 656 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: most favorites. Eventually that will hopefully end here. But I 657 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: had Green Bay, as did he. I said, green Bay. 658 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: You know the two weeks ago Green Bay was like, 659 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 2: oh this is a spicy team. They're dangerous. Lookout took 660 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: down the Chiefs, took down the Lion. Look Out. Then 661 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: they lose to Tommy Defiedoma and net Football, and then 662 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: they are at home against Baker Mayfield. Baker turns it over, 663 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: fumbles inside the Packers, five touchdown Packers, they take the lead. 664 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, that's probably it right seven to three. 665 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: Green Bay's gonna step it up. They got Jordan love Folks. 666 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: I had to be a top five performance on the 667 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 2: road for any quarterback I've seen this year. Baker after 668 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: that turnover was lights out. I saw that he had 669 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 2: a perfect quarterback rating. I don't know how you can 670 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: do that with a fumble. But he threw for three 671 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty one yards his best game in Tampa 672 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: this season. Four touchdowns, three of them in the second 673 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 2: half on the road. Okay, on throws of ten or 674 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: more yards. And he was coming into this game on 675 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: any throw down the field like he's not great for 676 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: whatever reason. Forty completion percentage on throws of ten or 677 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 2: more yards a season. He was ten of eleven for 678 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 2: two hundred and four yards and two touchdowns in Lambeau. In 679 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 2: a big spot where the Packers needed it, Baker Mayfield 680 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: was shredding. I don't even I've never heard of the 681 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 2: guy more who he threw his last touchdown to a 682 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: great pass. Folks. This is a Tampa team that I 683 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: had been fading because of the defensive injuries. Right, they 684 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 2: lose Devin White, they lose a cornerback, and I'm like, oh, 685 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: these guys can't stop a fucking noseblease. Come on, and 686 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield keeps coming back and pulling rabbits out of 687 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 2: hats and rob I gotta say, listen, I get it. Baker. 688 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 2: When he was the guy in Cleveland, he did get 689 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 2: them to the playoffs. I mean, he was on a 690 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 2: good team. And then he tried to play through an injury. 691 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: It did not work. He tried to rebound, and I 692 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 2: think it was Charlotte. It was a bust, and then 693 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: the rams for five minutes. Sometimes it just takes a 694 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 2: little while. I mean the NFL, the speed and everything, 695 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: it's just so much different than like college, whatever level 696 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: you played at. I almost don't know what you do 697 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: with Baker. He's a free agent, So what are the choices? Rob? 698 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 2: You can't if you franchise tag him, he's gonna jump 699 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 2: from like, you know, ten mil or whatever, fifteen mil 700 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: whatever he's making, to like thirty mill or thirty five million. 701 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what you do. Do you sign him 702 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 2: to a couple of years. It seems like Todd Bowles 703 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: is gonna keep his job. But Bucks look like they're 704 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: going to the freaking playoffs and Baker has a lot 705 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 2: to do with that because the defense has not been great. 706 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 2: I was talking about this team as a teardown. Oh 707 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: you trade Evans, you trade Godwin, you tank and you 708 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: fire balls, and you can come on, you can make 709 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: something happen. Like none of that is even close to 710 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: happening now. They do end the season, I believe with 711 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: the Saints in a game that is going to determine 712 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,959 Speaker 2: probably who wins that division. But the weird thing, Rob, 713 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: they I think Tampa Bay can get into the playoffs 714 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: without winning the division because the NFC has been so wretched. 715 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. Listen, I know people are out on Baker, 716 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 2: and you know, we do love a good redemption story 717 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: in America. But for whatever reason, people just like are 718 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 2: just discounting or not even talking about Baker Mayfield. This 719 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: Tampa team, Rob, I don't know that they're scary. Rashan White, 720 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 2: by the way, when did he get good? He is 721 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 2: so fast? I don't know. I'm just kind of smitten 722 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 2: with them. Usually when people beat me and I fade them, 723 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: I hate it and I get angry. I'm sorry. Tampa 724 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: goes Jacksonville, then New Orleans, then Carolina in the final 725 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 2: game of the season, so two of three are in 726 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: the division next week at home against your boy, Trevor Lawrence. 727 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. Baker Mayfield in the playoffs is kind 728 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,240 Speaker 2: of sort of wild. 729 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what I got to, you know, 730 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: take some egg on my face because I've gone viral 731 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: like two or three times, to the extent that someone 732 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 1: like me can go viral. But one of the reasons 733 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: why I went viral is because it may have actually 734 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: been on this podcast when I said that Baker Mayfield 735 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: in a year is going to be working for the 736 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: Big twelve network. Oh and that he's you know, going 737 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: to be out of the NFL, that his days are numbered. 738 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: He's going to be hosting some very popular podcast or 739 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: be on television in Texas again, you know, in a 740 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: year from now. Obviously that did not pan out because 741 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: he's having a solid season, you know, three to one 742 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: TDD interception ratio and they've won three straight. I, like you, 743 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: was ready to throw dirt on his grave, and when 744 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: they lost six of seven there between October and November, 745 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: they looked absolutely terrible. And credit to him, because I 746 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: still don't think he's a franchise caliber quarterback. I still 747 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: would not feel comfortable if he was my starting quarterback 748 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: on a week to week basis. But the one thing 749 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: that you can say about Baker Mayfield is what you 750 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: alluded to, his ability to bounce back, to pull the 751 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: rabbit out of his hat, like as you mentioned, and 752 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: that's even going back to college, right, Like, when when 753 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: you don't expect a whole lot from Baker Mayfield or 754 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: you feel like he's, you know, down in the dumps 755 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: and this is going to be the end for him, 756 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: he has that quote unquote it factor that allows him 757 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: to rise to the level of the occasion and either 758 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: win a big game or have a big throw or 759 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: make the key play at the right time, because even 760 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: in this three game winning streak, I know he played 761 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: great against Green Bay. The previous two games each week 762 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: against Carolina and Atlanta, two defenses that are not great 763 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: twenty eight of fifty eight, three hundred and forty six 764 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: yards across two games. But in both of those games 765 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: that were both one possession, he made the key plays 766 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: late to ensure that his team got the win. And 767 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: there's something to be said about that. So I'm not 768 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: a big Baker Mayfield guy, but kudos to Baker Mayfield 769 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: today for having a fantastic game against the Packers. 770 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 2: Do you want to spend any time talking about your 771 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: Raiders and that big win? Like you know? If you 772 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 2: If I could find a negative angle for you, it's 773 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 2: that they moved to six and eight out of the 774 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 2: top ten now drafting. By the way, I don't know 775 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 2: if you saw this, but with Carolina's win over Atlanta, 776 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 2: by the way, Desmond Ridder, holy effing what on earth 777 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 2: that passed that he threw? So they're up seven to 778 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 2: six with like I don't know, four minutes left in 779 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: the red zone. He scrambles out of pressure. You're like, ooh, 780 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 2: nice wheels, and then he's approaching the sideline and just 781 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: throws like right to a Carolina guy. You're like, what 782 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 2: the fuck is that? I could not believe it, Like 783 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 2: one of the worst passes I've seen this season. And 784 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 2: Ritter does that in the red zone. He panics and 785 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: Carolina goes right down kicks the field goal at the buzzer, 786 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: and it's like, oh my gosh, Atlanta, they missed the 787 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: playoffs now, but that win for Carolina pushes their record 788 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: at two and twelve. They are only one game up 789 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 2: on New England for the number one pick. 790 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 1: Now. 791 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 2: I don't know who in a tiebreaker would get that, 792 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 2: but Rob, this situation with Belichick is getting real interesting. 793 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 2: If they get the number one pick, do you just 794 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 2: say we're moving on from Belchick and like starting over 795 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 2: with a new regime and the number one or is 796 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 2: Belichick like, Bro, you're not gonna fucking fire me when 797 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 2: you get the number one pick. Come on, I got 798 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 2: a chance to rebound with my guy. I mean, this 799 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 2: is getting fascinating. By the way, Jets with the loss 800 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 2: are now tied with Bears, Giants, Chargers, and Titans. They're 801 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 2: all five through nine. But it's what's weird is if 802 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 2: you look at those five through nine Bears starting justin 803 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 2: Fieldzer starter six at Jets, Zach Wilson ain't gonna be 804 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: their guy. It looks like it's going to be simming 805 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: and going forward, Giants are starting to veto slash tyrod. 806 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: Chargers are on Eastern stick, Titans are on will Levis, 807 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 2: all of those guys are on backup. So those are 808 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 2: like quiet tanks for teams that have been eliminated. But 809 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: your thoughts on the Raiders dropping US sixty three Burger 810 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: on the Charges. 811 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: Well, I turned it off at halftime, and even as 812 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: a Raiders fan, I had no interest in watching a 813 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: team get evstrated like that. 814 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: Look. 815 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say about this, I mean, it 816 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: was cool to see him win, and obviously in a 817 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: blowout fashion. At one point when it gets to like 818 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 1: forty two to nothing, though, it almost becomes comical, like 819 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: it's just like, are we really that good or they 820 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: are just vomiting all over themselves and everything that we 821 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: do seems to be working right. We're doing trick plays, 822 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,919 Speaker 1: we have a Jack Jones makes one of the great 823 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: interceptions you've ever seen, where he reads the play so 824 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: quickly he actually has to reach back to make the 825 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: interception because he was so ahead of Austin Eckler on 826 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: that screen pass. But the only thing I'll say about 827 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: that game is, on one hand, yes, it sucks that 828 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: we win by lose or lose by winning because we 829 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: drop in the draft and I think we still need 830 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback. But anybody who thinks that after that game 831 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: that Antonio Pierce is absolutely the answer a head coach, 832 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: he is fooling themselves and this and I'm a Raider 833 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: fan telling you that because you cannot go Week fourteen 834 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: against Minnesota off a bye and lose three to nothing 835 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: fair and then you have this blowout win against a 836 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: team that obviously had quit on their coach and just assume, well, obviously, 837 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: and Antonio Peers is the guy. It's like, No, it's 838 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: much more nuanced than that, because the same guy who 839 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: ran up sixty three on the Chargers got shut out 840 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: coming off a bye, playing against the Vikings in a 841 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: game that if you wanted to make the playoffs realistically, 842 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: you had to win. So he may be the coach 843 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: going forward. I'm not going to eliminate him from that conversation. 844 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: But I'm also not going to be like, well, we 845 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: absolutely found our coach and we had our quarterback just 846 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: because we beat up on Eastern Stick. And the soon 847 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 1: to be podcast host Brandon Staley. 848 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 2: Oh damn, I don't even know if he's gonna be host. 849 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 2: Maybe podcast guest. 850 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: There you go podcast guests. 851 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, little harsh By the way, I heard somebody shoot, 852 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 2: I forgot the running back. But like, there was a 853 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: guy on the Packers who before Dylan, before Jones, who 854 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 2: was like heavy, he might have gone to Alabama Eddie Lacy. Yes, 855 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 2: so he was like good and then he got like fat, right, 856 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 2: and they called him fat Eddie Lacy? Do you remember that? 857 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: I want to be a Fantasy Championship. 858 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 2: Somebody in my somebody hit me with when did Austin 859 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 2: Eckler turn into Eddie Lacy? And I was like, wow, 860 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 2: First of all, I didn't know Austin Eckler look fat, 861 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: but I guess he His hands are going and he's 862 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 2: like losing speed. Ats just very Ekler was so freaking 863 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 2: good last year and now it's like, yeah, he's not good. 864 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 2: I don't know, Rob poor Charger. I don't even think 865 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 2: the roster's that good. You know, we might have to 866 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 2: get Steve Hartman on I had somebody send me a 867 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 2: link that Hartman said the NFL made the Chargers fireprinted 868 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 2: w Hartman is he's that guy's crazy. I do. I 869 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 2: do appreciate his uh his bombs. He does look to 870 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 2: drop atomically, So maybe this week we'll have to get 871 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 2: him on. But I guess we guess we technically have 872 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 2: to do a best bet for Eagles Seahawks tonight from Seattle. 873 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 2: The line was four and a half, then four, and 874 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 2: then Glazer reported that Jalen Hurts is very sick. If 875 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 2: the game was Sunday, he would not have played the 876 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,919 Speaker 2: lines down to three in that pick'em contest. I got 877 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: three and a half. I don't know. I have a 878 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 2: hard time seeing the Eagles losing this game, but I 879 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: don't trust them to get margin here. Yeah, for me, 880 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: it's gotta be Seattle or nothing. I don't think I 881 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 2: could lay it with the Eagles. 882 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: Again, I hate agreeing with you, but I think you're 883 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: spot on because the Gale Hurst thing is obviously a 884 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: question mark, but there's also underreported Gino Smith is a 885 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: question mark two, so it's entirely possible to give it. 886 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota versus Drew Locke, and in those kind of 887 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: situations when if one or both of those backups have 888 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 1: to play, it's hard to feel good about either team. Yeah, 889 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: and so in those situations usually end up where it's 890 00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: a tough, usually ugly, disjointed a game, and in those 891 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: instances it's usually cited by a late field goal or 892 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: a late touch down something like that. So again, I 893 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't bet on this one, but if I were to 894 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: be taking Seattle. 895 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 2: And there was the other report about the Eagles defense. 896 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 2: So they're ten and three, and there was one report 897 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 2: that like they moved on from their defensive coordinator Sean 898 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 2: de Sai and now Matt Patricia's calling plays. But then 899 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 2: they were like all the reporters at the same time 900 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 2: must have got the same text from the Eagles. No, no, 901 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: sorry for clarification. Desi is still the defensive coordinator, but 902 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 2: he's gonna move upstairs and Patricia will call plays from 903 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 2: the field or something along those lines. And it's just like, 904 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 2: this is a lot of weirdness for a ten and 905 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,399 Speaker 2: three team. I don't know. I don't want to act 906 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 2: like it's an overreaction. And people are talking about the 907 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 2: big Dom, that big Mead, heead on the sideline, who 908 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: put his hands on green Law and now he's suspended 909 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 2: for the rest of the season. Can't be suspended, can't 910 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,280 Speaker 2: be on the sideline. So there's just a lot happening 911 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 2: with the Eagles. I just I could see Seattle kind 912 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 2: of playing like they did against Dallas and ultimately losing. 913 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, give me the three and a half or 914 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 2: three for the Seahawks here. All right, that's a lengthy 915 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 2: Monday pot. I feel like I say that every Monday, 916 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: but listen to the NFL. Only has a few weeks 917 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 2: left before the playoffs are here, one week to Christmas. 918 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 2: We will talk later about planning for the week. Talk 919 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 2: to you tomorrow.