WEBVTT - Tips to Keep Kids Safe on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>The things you need to know about YouTube to keep

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<v Speaker 1>your kids safe.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on. I'm Rich Damiro.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Rich on Tech and joining me today is

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Grush.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the CEO of the Maiden Network.

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<v Speaker 1>They make a bunch of videos for YouTube, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about some of the ways we can

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<v Speaker 1>keep our kids safe when they're watching YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin, thanks so much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell me about Maiden. What kind of videos are

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<v Speaker 2>you making?

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<v Speaker 4>So we are making content in all different genres on

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<v Speaker 4>YouTube right now, from food content to entertainment, pop culture videos.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of our biggest channels are cinema sins binging with Babbish.

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<v Speaker 4>We also represent a channel a guy named Marty Schwartz

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<v Speaker 4>who's the biggest guitar teacher on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>So all kind of across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>And tell me about the state of YouTube. How big

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<v Speaker 1>is this platform? I know, I look at it every

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<v Speaker 1>single day. Yeah, I assume I'm looking at it less

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<v Speaker 1>than a lot of people out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's you know, YouTube continues to grow, not just

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<v Speaker 4>in the amount of users on the platform, but really

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<v Speaker 4>in how they're watching and how long they're watching. So

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<v Speaker 4>we're seeing longer and longer watch times, people spending more

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<v Speaker 4>time on the platform, watching it like it's TV, tuning

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<v Speaker 4>in at regularly scheduled times, as opposed to just using

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<v Speaker 4>it as maybe a resource when you're you know, looking

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<v Speaker 4>up how to do something around the house or or

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<v Speaker 4>something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I imagine the growth is going to continue because

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<v Speaker 1>more people are cutting the cord and they're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>something to replaced, kind of like what they used to

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<v Speaker 1>watch on TV. All right, so we're talking about kids. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a couple kids. I don't really let them

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<v Speaker 1>watch YouTube kind of all by themselves, like I kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>I do curate things a little bit. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the YouTube app on their iPads, but they do watch

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<v Speaker 1>it on the TV screen, which I can see. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a couple of tips that you want to share,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought this one was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You say, curate what's you and your children watch?

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<v Speaker 1>And I love the idea that you say. Well you

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<v Speaker 1>say that to watch content from channels that you trust,

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<v Speaker 1>but also create playlists in advance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So so there are certainly channels on YouTube that are

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<v Speaker 4>producing really great kids programming. As more and more kids

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<v Speaker 4>are watching. As parents are allowing their kids to watch

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<v Speaker 4>content on YouTube, there are certainly channels that are creating

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<v Speaker 4>really high quality, safe content for kids, and so making

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<v Speaker 4>sure that you know those channels, you've kind of vetted

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<v Speaker 4>their content, and then that they're staying on those channels

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<v Speaker 4>is important. But even within that once they've watched one video,

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<v Speaker 4>there can be others that pop up through the recommendation engine,

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<v Speaker 4>So it might look like a similar video from that channel,

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<v Speaker 4>but it might be from somewhere completely different. And so

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<v Speaker 4>creating a playlist where every video on that playlist you

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<v Speaker 4>have seen, you know what it is, and then they're

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<v Speaker 4>just watching from that playlist is probably one of the

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<v Speaker 4>best ways that you can ensure that the content they're

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<v Speaker 4>watching is safe.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll be honest, I don't think the time to

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<v Speaker 1>create that playlist is when you're sitting down at a

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant handing your phone over to the kids, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what parents are doing most of the time. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>the time to create it. You create it in your

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<v Speaker 1>own time, when you've got some time to do the research.

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<v Speaker 3>Right sure, and it's I mean, it's super easy to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Once once you've seen a video, even if it's a

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<v Speaker 4>video that they've watched before and you know that it's

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<v Speaker 4>safe just in that moment. If you've already created that playlist,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's one click of a button to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that it's added to it. And then in that moment,

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<v Speaker 4>whether you're at the restaurant or or some other time

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<v Speaker 4>when when you're wanting.

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<v Speaker 3>To keep them occupied, you have that playlist ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we all know kids love to watch things

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<v Speaker 1>a bazillion times, so it doesn't matter if they've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can add it to the playlist and they'll watch

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<v Speaker 1>it again. So they've got the YouTube Kids app. And

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<v Speaker 1>this took a lot of heat. I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it was six months or a year ago when people

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<v Speaker 1>realize that this was not a curated app, this was

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<v Speaker 1>an algorithm driven app. So I think YouTube has done

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better job at making the YouTube Kids

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<v Speaker 1>app friendlier for kids, but it's still not one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent there, Like it's not one hundred percent safe visit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I mean you have to understand that the

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<v Speaker 4>reality around the volume of content is uploaded to YouTube constantly,

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<v Speaker 4>and so to be able to keep up with that

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<v Speaker 4>that volume of content there has to be an algorithm

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<v Speaker 4>that is allowing YouTube to place content in front of

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<v Speaker 4>its viewers. That being said, it's not a perfect system,

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<v Speaker 4>as you mentioned, And so even though the YouTube's kids

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<v Speaker 4>app is kind of does some of the work for

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<v Speaker 4>you by making sure that there is certainly not everything

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<v Speaker 4>on YouTube there, there's still ways that things could slip

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<v Speaker 4>through the cracks. And so with a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>effort of just making sure that you're actually seeing what

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<v Speaker 4>they're watching in advance, is going to make sure that

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<v Speaker 4>that you shure up any of those any of those

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<v Speaker 4>negative possibilities.

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<v Speaker 1>And you say that you can disable search inside the app,

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<v Speaker 1>you can set time limits, which you can now do

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<v Speaker 1>in the regular app. I noticed, so I guess adults

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<v Speaker 1>need some time limits as well. Yeah, YouTube, this was

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting. So there's this concept you call it YouTube poop,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've seen this before and there you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a video starts out nice, like a Pepa pig video,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it's sort of I call it terms evil

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<v Speaker 1>almost where your kids are seeing things that they shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be seeing. Why do people do this and how do

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<v Speaker 1>you avoid that? I guess I mean you avoid it

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<v Speaker 1>by I mean there's ways you can tell about that,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean just the awareness of this is important.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's the most important part. And to be

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<v Speaker 4>familiar with these platforms, right, So understanding when we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about a channel and what's actually on a particular channel

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<v Speaker 4>versus what's just out on YouTube is really important. So

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<v Speaker 4>just familiarize yourself with the platform and the functionality so

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<v Speaker 4>that you know.

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<v Speaker 3>We might be giving these really helpful tips.

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<v Speaker 4>But if if you know some of those basic things

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<v Speaker 4>you haven't you know, understood or dove into on your own,

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<v Speaker 4>they still could present problems.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's easy stuff to do.

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<v Speaker 4>It really is knowing that those dangers exist so that

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<v Speaker 4>you can take the very simple steps to protect against them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it really a lot of it comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to discoverability. YouTube wants you to discover a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of different stuff. So you were showing me inside the app,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're watching a video, you would think that the

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<v Speaker 1>video is underneath there would be sort of from that

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<v Speaker 1>same channel, which would help you out as a creator.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But what YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Wants to do is get you exposed to as many

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<v Speaker 1>videos as possible, just in the hopes that you might

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<v Speaker 1>click another one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you're gonna see in the recommendations after you

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<v Speaker 4>watch a video, whether it's below or on or on

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<v Speaker 4>the side, depending on if you're which platform you're watching,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to see a number of videos that are

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<v Speaker 4>from the same creator that you might have deemed safe.

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<v Speaker 4>That being said, there are other videos that are trying

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<v Speaker 4>to capitalize on the popularity in the search around a

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<v Speaker 4>particular channel or type of video. And then, like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>YouTube is trying to make sure that they're introducing you

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<v Speaker 4>to all sorts of other.

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<v Speaker 3>Creators that's similar, that's based on your interest. But and

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<v Speaker 3>they do a really good job.

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<v Speaker 4>But there are occasions when people are manipulating that to

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<v Speaker 4>the point where they're sneaking you know, that evil stuff

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<v Speaker 4>in that will allow you to that allow your kids

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<v Speaker 4>to stumble upon it in quite innocently oftentimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And also you say to look at the channel name

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like identify those and the thumbnails, even though

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<v Speaker 1>those can be a little bit misleading sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so that's kind of some of the tools that

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<v Speaker 4>they'll actually use to mislead you, is that if you're

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<v Speaker 4>on a channel of Pepa Pig, for example, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you see another thumbnail that has pep a Pig in it.

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<v Speaker 4>You assume that it's from the same distributor of Pep

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<v Speaker 4>a Pig content. It could be someone completely different who's

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<v Speaker 4>just uploaded that, and so you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that you are actually make you know, you're understanding which

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<v Speaker 4>channel is coming from, and then you actually watch the

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<v Speaker 4>video as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is a good one. Beware of auto play because.

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<v Speaker 1>Once a video finishes, another one's gonna start playing automatically. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you say to turn this off if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>protect your kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's I mean, it's a simple.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a simple, simple thing to do to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to turn that feature off so that the next video

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<v Speaker 4>that they watch has to be chosen either by you

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<v Speaker 4>or that's playing from your playlist. So if you if

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<v Speaker 4>you turn that off, you're not going to run into

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<v Speaker 4>the risk of having one video play and then something

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<v Speaker 4>unsavory popping up randomly after that.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, YouTube is trying to make sure that they are close,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, close as possible to what you're searching for,

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<v Speaker 4>but there are ways to manipulate that to to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>negative consequences, And as.

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<v Speaker 2>A parent, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You if you're handing over your phone to your kid

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<v Speaker 1>you want them to watch for a while because you

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<v Speaker 1>might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing something that's generally a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you go back to those playlists that you

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<v Speaker 1>recommended curating at the beginning, that's a really smart way

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<v Speaker 1>to know that, Hey, my kid's gonna watch five videos,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're all gonna be something I've already screened, so

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<v Speaker 1>turn off the AutoPlay. I'll put how to do that

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes, but it's pretty simple. And finally,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about not just monitoring what your kids are watching,

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<v Speaker 1>but also sort of manage what they're posting because eventually

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to turn into a creator.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all are nowadays.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I think that that is really a positive

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<v Speaker 4>element of what YouTube is inspiring in kids, is as

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<v Speaker 4>they're seeing other kids like them who are building big

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<v Speaker 4>audiences and creating content, and it's it's inspiring them to

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<v Speaker 4>go make stuff themselves. That being said, it's important to

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<v Speaker 4>understand that this is a social platform, and so there

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<v Speaker 4>are people anyone can find that content, see that content,

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<v Speaker 4>and communicate to your children, you know, through comments and messaging.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I would say, especially early on as your

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<v Speaker 4>kids are starting to create content if they're just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they want to create videos, but you don't want that

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<v Speaker 4>available to the entire world. Upload those videos as unlisted videos,

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<v Speaker 4>meaning you can actually get the link. You can watch

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<v Speaker 4>the video only if you have the link to it,

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<v Speaker 4>so you can share it with friends and family wherever

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<v Speaker 4>you choose, but that it's not available through YouTube as

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<v Speaker 4>a search engine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so if you do unlisted, you can text that

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<v Speaker 1>link or share it with your friends and family. They

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<v Speaker 1>can easily access it without logging in. But the random

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<v Speaker 1>person can't really find that video unless they have the link,

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<v Speaker 1>which that's right, they would have to get from someone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, all right, Kevin Grush, thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me from the made in Network on YouTube and

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<v Speaker 1>tell people again where where they can find your video.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you can go to madotnetwork dot com to

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<v Speaker 4>learn more about our company and some of the channels

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<v Speaker 4>that we represent. But you know, I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>finding our channels ourselves, whether it be binging with Babbage Cinema,

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<v Speaker 4>sins Marty Music among another, you know, amongst others, those

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<v Speaker 4>are probably some of the best places to start.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent, Thanks so much for joining me and telling us

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