1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fants. This one's 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve apostles, and only 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: the truth lives here, Packed twelve apostless. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amazon, and this is the 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: Pack twelve Apostles. Yeah, maybe last season, not of us here, 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: because we will still be colored covering college football, but 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 2: not for the Pac twelve, because who knows? Will there 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: be four teams? Will there be two teams? Will the 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 2: AAC merge, will the Stanford and Cal go to the ACC? 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: It ain't time to talk about that no more. We 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: don't care because it is football time and we already 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: got a game last week. Me and Ralph both are 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: we both hit the over under and we both are 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: against the spread. 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: Man. 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: This thing started out great USC San Jose State, and 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: I had a conversation with Mike Yam that was pretty 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: cool on my Mad Dog Sports radio show, and ESPN 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 2: struck a deal to play ACC games and movie theaters. Ralph, 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: the second thing you put on here, I don't know. 21 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: I don't have an answer as to why the Pac 22 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: twelve didn't do stuff like this. Whatever, Bro. And then 23 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: George Kliakoff Yep, he's going to the college football playoff 24 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: meetings in Dallas. There was at least one development that 25 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: came out of that that was pretty cool. Yeah, that's 26 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: pretty damn dope. And yeah, so, but we'll start with 27 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: the USC San Jose State game. Ralph. USC dominated the 28 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: game right well, sorry they they won the game fifty 29 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: six to twenty eight. It was twenty one to seven 30 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: at halftime. They gave up an ugly touchdown right before halftime. 31 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams two hundred and seventy eight yards four touchdowns. 32 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: Was this a good performance by the Trojans? 33 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: It was a good performance by Kayleb Williams and Zach 34 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: Branch and the fifty six different receivers that caught passes 35 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: for USC. I think it was a really good performance 36 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: for the offense. I think the questions are still there 37 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: for Alex Grinch in the defense. And oh boy, did 38 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: the PAC twelve network they had a camera on Grinch 39 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: the whole game. Do you notice that? 40 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: Yes? Well, actually I couldn't really notice it because I 41 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: was having trouble watching the damn game. 42 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. You got me kicked off my 43 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: sling like four different times. Okay, I got you kicked 44 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: off logging back in. We were trying to we were 45 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: trying to share passwords and Sling wasn't having it. 46 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I was like it because ordinarily to 47 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: for the PAC twelve network, I have to use my well, 48 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: my my aunt she uses mine. Well, I use hers 49 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: for PAC twelve network. She uses mine for something else 50 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: that she wants to watch whatever. 51 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 3: Right, So sharing is caring? 52 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: Yes, even Netflix told you so, until until they realized 53 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: that it wasn't. 54 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, what makes Sling be so hardcore about this? Like? 55 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: What are they trying to gate keep for? 56 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 57 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: Did you see that? 58 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: They? 59 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 3: I I was looking for like how to get back 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: on Sling, and I was like the ALF channel. Sling 61 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: has the ALF channel and all it does is play ALF. 62 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: That's what Larry Scott got us on, Yeah, next to 63 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: the ALF channel. 64 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: And and people I was tweeting in frustration because people 65 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: were like, it's not that hard to get on PAC 66 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: twelve network. Just log in with Sling or or Spectrum 67 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: or Charter or whoever else. I was like, dude, I'm 68 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: a core cutter. I pay for what I want, like 69 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: the idea that I have to buy an entirely new 70 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: subscription service at like sixty eighty buck. However much it 71 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: is a year a month to have Pack twelve network. 72 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: Somebody needs to get slapped in the face, dude. The 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: idea of paying for it on Apple for like five 74 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: ten bucks a month way better, way better than the 75 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: current option. 76 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: That's how the pactok network could have done standalone streaming 77 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: for forty dollars a month forty and it would have 78 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: been less than Sling because I don't want on it 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: on Sling. It's a sports add on. Plus you gotta 80 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: pay for DVR because multiple games are being played at 81 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: the same time. That's the point paying eight hundred dollars 82 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: a year to watch one channel. 83 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: Goddamn it, Yes exactly, So I'm like f them because 84 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: I don't know damn cable boxes in my in my house. 85 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: I spent the money on Internet. That's what I spent 86 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: the money on. I spent the money on my internet, 87 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: so it dude. I could not be any more frustrated 88 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: with the availability of it. And truthfully, by the time 89 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: I got my Spectrum account set up, because then I 90 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: was like, f it, I'll just sign up for my 91 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: own Spectrum account. I'll pay the money during during football 92 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: season whatever. Then spectrums like, nah, nah, that ain't gonna 93 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 2: work because it takes twenty four hours for our stuff 94 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: to update. I'm like, do you realize how antiquated that 95 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: that is? To sign up for something and it takes 96 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: twenty four hours for it to work? Like that's garbage. 97 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: So then I was like, I gotta go old school, buddy, 98 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: got it, got it, gotta go old school. Locked up 99 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: the VPN and then in the up on the PAC 100 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: twelve international feed, so I got a chance to watch it. 101 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: Oh, there you go. Well, Kayla Williams looked great, Zach 102 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 3: Branch looked e electric. 103 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, he dude. That kid, that kid right there, 104 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: that kid right there, Bro, he was like this in 105 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: high school. I was like, oh my god, he's yes 106 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: Anthony Thomas. Except fact was he was. 107 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: And I used to argue and say, like, this kid 108 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: needs to flip. He needs to be a corner. He 109 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: could be the greatest corner ever. Because his brother is 110 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 3: a corner. I think he's even better. And I was wrong. 111 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 3: He can do whatever he wants. He had me thinking, now, 112 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 3: this is not a comparison. He had me thinking about Reggie. 113 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: No that, ain't you. 114 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: No, I'm saying that he had me thinking about Reggie. 115 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: I didn't say like he was playing like Reggie. It 116 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: was watching him on the field. I'm like, man, I 117 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: miss Reggie. 118 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the Anthony Thomas. 119 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: A little bit of a Dory Jackson too, but not 120 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: playing on both sides of the ball or whatever. 121 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, a door a Dory wasn't like that, though, bro 122 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: A Dory was super electric and all this. But this 123 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: kid has those de Anthony Thomas stop on a dime 124 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: and leave and leave ten, ten pennies and leave ten, 125 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: leave you ten pennies, buddy, I. 126 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: Couldn't the little boy from Incredibles. 127 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I left saying he's going to be a problem, 128 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: a major problem for everybody involved. 129 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: He already cashed in, right, Yes, he just. 130 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: Got an nil deal with fanatics. I'm sorry with Panini 131 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: with the enemy, Yes, exactly so. But let's Caleb Williams 132 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: was pretty spectacular. One of the things that I've heard 133 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: some NFL scouts say to knock on him is that 134 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: he does hold the ball too long. 135 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: He does hold the ball a long ass time. We've 136 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: been talking about it for a while on this show. 137 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't do that in the NFL, like 138 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: you can get away with it. But I think that 139 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: he will be able to, you know, to like fix 140 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: that as it goes to the to the NFL because 141 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: something like that. He calls in love with the big play, 142 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: and I understand why, but I would rather my quarterback 143 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: be able to do special things and occasionally have a 144 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: time that he holds the ball too long or something 145 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: something like like that then than somebody who's never capable 146 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: of something spectacular. 147 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: He's got vic level of capability. It's crazy, it's crazy, 148 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: and I think he can. He can use it as 149 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: a crush. That was my big worry after the Arizona 150 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: State game last year when he escaped fifteen different sacks 151 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: and he would run all the way to the sideline, 152 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: have the ball full nine seconds before letting it fly, 153 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: Like how long can he get away with this? But 154 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: I mean worth the incentive a state. Do you think 155 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: the defense still has a problem or do you think 156 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: it's forty seven year old Chavon Cordero being a dual 157 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: threat with a lot of experience. 158 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 2: Both it's both, it is both problems us. He is 159 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 2: super young, particularly on defense as well, and I think 160 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: that this is who Lincoln Riley is. So there's like 161 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: it's like the old quote that a man's strengths flow 162 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: from the same Well, it's his weaknesses. Lincoln Riley offensive 163 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: master can score points. It also that style of play 164 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 2: also makes it so when you're in practice and you're 165 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: practicing against it all the time, your defense is not 166 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: going to be as physical as it needs to be 167 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: at times. Yeah, so it's like a give and take. 168 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: It's hard to have both things at the same time. 169 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: That's why I'm a big believer in the past spread, 170 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 2: which is all the fundamentals of eye football of you know, 171 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: line up with a full back football, except for you 172 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: are spreading people out at the same time. So instead 173 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: of all zone plays, you're gonna have more gap scheme 174 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: plays where people are pulling and it forces your defense 175 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: to be fit physical. Sometimes you go under center and 176 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: just line up and run people over and your defense 177 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: has to get used to that. And that's the thing 178 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: that USC's defense is not used to. I do believe 179 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: that they will be a little bit improved from last year. 180 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: But the way San Jose State was able to move 181 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: the ball pick up third and twenty two's pick up 182 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 2: third and seventeens and stuff like that. That part, that 183 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: part couldn't concern me because they were five for thirteen 184 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: on third down, which is not terrible, but they also 185 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: were able to amass four hundred yards and seven point 186 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: three yards of rush. I know some of that's the quarterback, 187 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: but still they run the ball in college football. So 188 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: I was a little bit taken aback by that. And 189 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: I do think that when USC as they get deeper 190 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: into their schedule that I don't think that they're going 191 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: to have a problem with Nevada, Stanford, Arizona State may 192 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: try to be a little more physical, because that's the 193 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: way you know that Kenny Dillingham did in Oregon, led, 194 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: led with the run game, led with the run game. 195 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: But when they get down to that second half of 196 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: the schedule in order Notre Dame, Utah, Cal Washington and 197 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: Oregon and UCLA, bro that defense is gonna be tested. 198 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that's six weeks in a row where you're 199 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: getting punched in the face six weeks in a row, 200 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 2: and I don't think that defense is gonna be able 201 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: to hold up to that six weeks in a row. 202 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: Like it's not spread out where you get you know, Utah, 203 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: then you get Arizona, then you get Oregon, then you 204 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 2: get Colorado. No, it is six punches in the face 205 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: in a row. Calin gonna be as thorough of a punch, 206 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: but it's still gonna be a punch in the face. 207 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: How mad do you think USC's coaching staff gets when they, 208 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: like Chavon Cordero breaks off a twenty five yard run, 209 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 3: they look down at the roster and see that he's 210 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: a senior with no more eligibility left. 211 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: Why because they because they would be like, oh ooh, 212 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: sign us up, sign us up, sign us up. Yeah. 213 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 3: It's like going into a restaurant. You see what you 214 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: want on the menu, you order it, and they're like, 215 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: oh sorry, fresh out. 216 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, because us they're shopping. 217 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: They're not just playing against you, they're shopping. 218 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 2: Yes, oh, they are absolutely shopping. They're saying, ooh ooh. 219 00:12:54,240 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's a little running back, maybe therunning back 220 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: Conley from from from San Jose State. Maybe he fits 221 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: with us. 222 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't let my players 223 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: shake hands afterward. 224 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: Nope, nope, no, not even a little bit. So I 225 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: guess to put a Bowl On this game, USC did 226 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: score fifty six points. You can't, you know, take anything 227 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: away from there. No turnovers, quarterbacks, no turnovernovers. Yeah, by 228 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: by either team. And last year's USC's team feasted on 229 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: turnovers like like that was the thing that propelled them. 230 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: And if they are not able to get turnovers, that's 231 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: gonna be a problem. 232 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: Did you see any clips of Eric Gentry He said 233 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 3: he put twenty two pounds of muscle on. He looks 234 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: the exact same. 235 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: Yes, dude, he is six foot twelve. He he looks 236 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: like a six foot six version of of Jalen of 237 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels. 238 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he Maybe he's got like a like a 239 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: Jason Taylor type future of being able to have kind 240 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: of a diverse role. But he's much more of a 241 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: coverage linebacker than he is a pass run Yeah. 242 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: How can you get low? 243 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? Special, He's special. So you'll appreciate this because you 244 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: know my wife and you know her temperament. Uh, she 245 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: got up and she was watching the game with me, 246 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: and she got up and left the room because I 247 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: wouldn't stop shouting the name of the previous college of 248 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: every player that they showed on camera. 249 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: How many players and. 250 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: Basically everybody except for Zach Branch. I was every time 251 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: Brendan Rice caught a ball, I'm like Colorado key on 252 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: bars made attack on like Arizona Dorian Singer touchdown. As 253 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: I was yelling at I was just yelling with no 254 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: context and she was kind of like drifting off and 255 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: startled every time. So yeah, she was not pleased with me, 256 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: and she definitely left the room, but I kept doing it. 257 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: It was fun. 258 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: Yep. So so that's that game. Next thing up, I 259 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: got a chance to talk to Mike Yam on My 260 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: on My on My radio show on Mad Dog Sports 261 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: Radio seven to ten pm Pacific, and you got a 262 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: chance to listen to the interview. Were what were your 263 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: biggest takeaways for what mikey Am had to say. 264 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh so, mikey Am worked for PAC twelve Network 265 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: for a long time. He's on pac Tel Radio now. 266 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: He's fantastic. He always has been. There's a thing about 267 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: Pac twelve network employees where their instinct is to defend 268 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: the product and I and it makes me feel really 269 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: bad for It makes me feel really bad for them 270 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: because they can't help but feel like they're being criticized 271 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: when they're not. You know, the issue has always been availability. 272 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: The PAC twelve network actually produces some really cool stuff 273 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: that is very specific to the regional footprint. Yogi Roth 274 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: is able to like root for twelve teams at once. Yes, 275 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: and you believe him, Yes you do. Ashley Adams Sinn 276 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: is so informed and ready and like chill and just 277 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: the perfect person to be hosting studio stuff. Mike Yam 278 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: was so fantastic. I think Ted Robinson does a really 279 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: really good job on play by play. They put together 280 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: very very good things that no one gets to see, 281 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 3: and I think that that they can't help but take 282 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 3: it personal when people are like, it's the PAC twelve 283 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: network's fault that there is no more Pack twelve because 284 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: it makes it sound like we're talking about the product. 285 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 3: And he when you brought it up, he understood what 286 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: you were saying, but you could still hear that that, 287 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: like that instinct was still in him to defend the 288 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 3: network when nobody's talking about the network, because nobody can 289 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: see what the network is doing it And I wish 290 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: that because I've noticed a lot at the statements being 291 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: put out there, whether it's Yogi Roth or Ashley or 292 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 3: other people of like, Hey, the people here worked really 293 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 3: hard and this is really hard for them, and be 294 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: kind and and and you know, I just that So 295 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 3: that stood out. That stood out that that's kind of 296 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: still in him. And the other thing is just that 297 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: I miss him. I miss him being part of the 298 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: as somebody who does pay two billion dollars a month 299 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 3: for Pack twelve men network. I wish he was still 300 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: part of that action because it just felt like, you know, 301 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: just like with with h Paul Feinstein and the SEC, 302 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: it really felt like that group uh represented us. Well. 303 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 3: It was just cool to hear you talk to him. 304 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: He's always the best. 305 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm I love him. And just so you know, 306 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: in case you didn't know, he just wrote a new book, 307 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: a children's book called Rice and Fried, Rice and Marinaire. 308 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: So it's about this about a Chinese kid who's part 309 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: Italian as well, and he's trying to figure out what 310 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: to make for for his friends. 311 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 3: So that's cool, it's cool. And I I, uh, you 312 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 3: did ask him. I I text you get him on 313 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: the record. One drive to win the game, Andrew luck 314 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: Er Caleb Williams and you both went luck And I 315 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 3: thought yes, and with hesitation no no, I know you 316 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: had no hesitation. 317 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: No big. And it's not that Caleb Williams is not fantastic. 318 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: It's just I've seen so many game winning drives from 319 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: Andrew Luck while at Stanford, and. 320 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: He is also the say he's not He doesn't have 321 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: the quickness that Caleb Williams had. No, but he's as fast, 322 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: if not faster. 323 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: Yes, So now I imagine if you put Andrew Luck 324 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: with Caleb Williams weapons. That's what I'm saying. Bro. It's it, Bro, 325 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: It's scary, scary stuff. So you guys, we will effort. 326 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 2: I'll see if I can get put that interview here 327 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: on this podcast at the at the very end, but 328 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 2: we shall we shall see. No promises at this point. 329 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: So ESPN, though, has now struck a deal to play 330 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: ACC games in movie theaters and you and the next 331 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: sentence that came out of your mouth was, oh, why 332 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: didn't they Why didn't the Pac twelve do something like this? 333 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: And they're going to do it for their New Year's 334 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 2: Six Bowl games too. I actually love this because I 335 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: think that the movie theater could be the next front Frontier. 336 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: It's like a sports bar. 337 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 3: Bro they serve food. Now they serve beer. Like, did 338 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: you get in there with my friends in a recliner 339 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: in the dark and the air conditioning, and like, let's 340 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: watch some football. That'd be so fun. Yes, a whole 341 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: day of it. Give me the whole Oh my god. 342 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: Just sit there for the whole damn day. 343 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: Sorry, honey, I gotta go to work. 344 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: I gotta go to work. 345 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: Oh, put on my popcorn bib. 346 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: There was a dude I saw on TikTok. He put 347 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 2: a gave his wife a note and he filmed it 348 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: and she opened it up. It was his two weeks 349 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: notice from his family. He said, you know, so for 350 00:20:54,680 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: until March, I have prior commitments on Thursdays, Saturdays, Sundays 351 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: and Monday nights. So you know, so I'll be unavailable 352 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: because I have prior commitment. So I'm giving you my 353 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: two weeks notice from from the family and marriage on 354 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: those days. 355 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 3: That's that's kind of the situation I'm in. 356 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 2: Yep, Oh yeah, I have. 357 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: I got two hundred plus high schools that I cover 358 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 3: in the state of Arizona, the twelve pac twelve teams, 359 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: and then the stuff that we do together. I try 360 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: to stay aware of all the sports stuff and I 361 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: stay ay up till about one in the morning, listen 362 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: to your show. I got up this morning because we 363 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: had to. We had both cars breakdowns. We got them 364 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 3: both fixed, had to return a rental car. I didn't 365 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: talk for the first hour. I walked to the wrong 366 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 3: side of the door of the car. Like my first 367 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 3: few days in this I am I'm a mess. And 368 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: I love the fact that I that it. That it 369 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: entails like seven months of like of kind of being 370 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: at a decent pace and then five months of like 371 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: fifteen hours a day, seven days a week. 372 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: Dude, why are so we have an official visit this weekend? 373 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: I looked at the schedule and I was like, br 374 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: this is on Saturday, Like what. 375 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: On what? East Saturday? 376 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 377 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: Set the tone Saturday. I'm gonna have to be paying 378 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: extra attention just for you, bro. 379 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, what what are we doing here? Like I 380 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: don't have time for the stinky soup official visit, messing 381 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: up my college football Saturday. 382 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: I applied for a credential to go see Spencer Rattler, 383 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: Jay and Drake May here in Charlotte and interview Spencer Ratler. 384 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: And then I was like wait, that's gonna cost me 385 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: like five pack twelve games that I have to stay 386 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: up all night watching. I don't know if I maybe 387 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: I'll go down there for like fifteen twenty minutes, get 388 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 3: a couple of photos. 389 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: But FTK, man, FTK, fuck them kids. Man, That's what 390 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: I always say when I don't feel like well, I 391 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: mean in a joking, loving, loving way like man, FTK, 392 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: And and my wife is like, all right, yeah, I 393 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: love this idea. I am happy about it. I think 394 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 2: that this could actually be the new wave watching. Like 395 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: you pay your twelve bucks, you get a chance to 396 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: watch their and they know that all you're gonna do 397 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: is get concessions anyway. 398 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and do whatever it takes to save these movie theaters. Man, 399 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 3: if you want to have eight different churches meeting in 400 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: front of eight different screens, I don't care, Like, dude, dude, 401 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: imagine tiling them. 402 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: Imagine tiling them so like you put four games on 403 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: at one time, on like your oh. 404 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 3: My gosh, like a Vegas sportsbook, like yes, yes, circa. 405 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 2: Yes, and just have people, dude. People will sit in 406 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: that joint all damn day, all damn day. 407 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: You could be at home craft and a business plan tonight, 408 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: because that's how your brain works. 409 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 2: You are right. The funny part is you are right. 410 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: You got like thirty six irons in the fire right now, 411 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: and you're like thirty seven. Sounds like there's room for that. 412 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: That might work. 413 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 414 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 415 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 416 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: listen live. 417 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: Oh, speaking of that might work, George Kleiakoff Man, Okay, 418 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: So the latest that we've heard is is that if 419 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: the if there is expansion two of the PAC twelve, 420 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: if they are, whether it's with the four teams, adding 421 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: teams from the AAC and then eventually adding Mountain West 422 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: teams because they have to do it within two years 423 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: to be to still be a conference. If that's the case, 424 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: then George Kliakoff is expected to be fired. But he 425 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: is right now attending the College Football Planning meeting in 426 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: Dallas alongside Notre Dames AD and the other nine conference commissioners. 427 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 2: And think about that. He's got to be in the 428 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: in the room with Brett Yormark, Jim Phillips, and Tony 429 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: Pettiti at least he doesn't have to be in there 430 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: with Oh lord, who's the Big Ten's old commissioner, Kevin 431 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: Kevin Warren. Think about it, dude, we're like a year 432 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: away from like we're well, we're barely a year. So 433 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: we're like a year and two months away from the 434 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: alliance between the ACC and the Big Ten and the 435 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: BAC twelve. Bro consider that it was this was this 436 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 2: paper alliance that was supposed to be roundbreaking student athletes 437 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: first and all of this stuff, and it just felt like, 438 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: now when you look back, it felt like a predator trap. 439 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: It felt like that that old, that old parable where 440 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: the where the frogs are in the are in the 441 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: pot of water and they turn the water on low 442 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: and then they get so comfortable that they can't they 443 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: their muscles get so relaxed they can't jump out anymore. 444 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: That's what it feels like. That the PAC twelve got groomed, 445 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: That they got groomed, and then it just got taken 446 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: advantage of. 447 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: So your girl, Heather Dinnisch, who was a senior writer 448 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 3: for ESPN, tried to interview George Klaevkoff out there at 449 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 3: this meeting. He refused to comment and she said. She 450 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 3: tweeted she was gonna keep trying, so bless her. She 451 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: did catch up with him a couple of minutes ago, 452 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 3: and she said, this is all he said as he bolted. 453 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: She said, he bolted. It was good. It was nice 454 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: to focus on everything in the future. And she asked him, 455 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: what's the future for you, and he said, my focus 456 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 3: is on this year. I'm just focused on us winning 457 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 3: a national championship. Oh man, I just I feel bad 458 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 3: for him because being in there in that room. First 459 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: of all, he's in that room with the ACC Commissioner 460 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 3: who was meeting this week to discuss takings Callan Stanford, 461 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 3: which would have been the end thing, but because there 462 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: was a school shooting at University of North Carolina, they 463 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: just canceled it. So now he's in a room with 464 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 3: brett Or Mark who robbed him, yes, right, yeah, Pattiti, 465 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: who took the two that Kevin Warren started to negotiate 466 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 3: with in Oregon and Washington. And he's there with Jim Phillips, 467 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: who is in the process of ending potentially the PAC 468 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 3: twelve altogether, of delivering just the final little flick, because 469 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: there doesn't need to be a death blow, just a 470 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 3: little flick. And I mean for him to be in 471 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: the room with those people who like the vultures who 472 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 3: already picked his bones clean. 473 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 2: So what this wild? So is he allowed to say 474 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: anything in the meeting? If if, if people bring up 475 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: something and and he's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, Well, 476 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: now how about this? And then like, bro, when he started. 477 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 3: When he starts talking, when he starts talking, you'd hear 478 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 3: people's eyes roll because they all roll at the exact 479 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 3: same time. 480 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: Bro, Like why are you here? Like that's what that's 481 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: what it has to be, is like, bro, why are you? 482 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: Why are you here? 483 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: I would be uh? And I feel bad because we 484 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: spent a lot of time on this podcast defending George Klekov, 485 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: but it is what it is now. I just feel like, 486 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: is that what we should do? Why don't you get 487 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: up here and present? Why don't you just take over? 488 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: Since you probably have? 489 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: You got all the answers? Did you got all the answers? 490 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: Now? 491 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: I will say though I don't completely blame George Khalikov 492 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: like I do Larry Scott, because he was putting a 493 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: tough spot and as you see, the conference was worth 494 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: well over thirty million dollars a piece. Yeah, but the 495 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: networks wanted ownership and they weren't going to go away. 496 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: So it was either take less than you should get, 497 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: which is which they were right really for turning it down. 498 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: But then when you turn out it was Plato or Plumo, 499 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: they tried to give you silver, you didn't want it, 500 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: so you had to take the lay at Buddy. 501 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: Man, I don't know. I just I feel like he's 502 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: probably not having a good time today. 503 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: Yep. We did find out though, So the twelve team 504 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: format which is supposed to go into place next year, 505 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: that there is obviously issues now because it was going 506 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: to be a six plus six the sixth highest ranted 507 00:29:53,080 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: ranking Power five champions plus the so is gonna be 508 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: the five Power fives, a group of five and then 509 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: the highest ranked group of five and then six at 510 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: large bids. Well, now people are saying, I don't know 511 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: if there are six power Power five. I don't know 512 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: if there are five Power five conferences. Now does the 513 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: PAC twelve still get an automatic bid with with four 514 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: teams and maybe two bro, that's a that's a legitimate question. 515 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Or is it gonna be five plus seven? Like how 516 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: is this gonna work? So I would not be surprised 517 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: if this doesn't take a wild turn soon. 518 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: We've we've put ourselves back into like BCS formulas. 519 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: Oh yep, m M, well sort of where. But listen, 520 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: I just think that the conference has put itself in 521 00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: a in a bad spot. Dude, they it and now 522 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: you're not even going to have the availability that you 523 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: were looking for. And that's gonna suck. That's gonna suck 524 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: at every level. So oh but the other thing that 525 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: came out of it is is that players are going 526 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: to get a stipend. That players are now going to 527 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: get a stipend for their family. So one hundred and 528 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: twenty five players from the teams are going to get 529 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: three thousand dollars to make sure that their families can 530 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: travel to the games. I love it. I love it. 531 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: I think that that's great because I'll never forget when 532 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: the coach of Houston Basketball right now, when he was 533 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: crying talking about how he's had families call him, talking about, man, 534 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: we want to come to the tournament, but we can't afford. 535 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: We'll we'll we'll sleep on floor in his room. Anything like, Nah, 536 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: we can't, we can't do it blah blah blah, and 537 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: you have them making billions of dollars for other people 538 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: and their families can't even come watch them play. So 539 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: this change was necessary, and I love it. 540 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, I agree, I think anything. I mean, 541 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: it's it's all short of the ultimate goal, which is 542 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: that as the size of the pie exponentially increases year 543 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: over year. You know, we went from when there was 544 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: one head coach making over a million dollars a year, 545 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: that was Steve Spurrier at the time. Twenty years later 546 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: the highest salary was Nick Saban making a little over eleven, 547 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: which means that by the year I don't know, like 548 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: twenty thirty seven, it could be fully reasonable at that 549 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: rate of inflation to have our first fifty million dollars 550 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 3: per year coach. Like that, that is the rate at 551 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: which things are growing over a forty year span. To 552 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 3: know that the slice that is afforded to the players 553 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: could be essentially the same as what it was twenty 554 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 3: years ago, thirty years ago, forty years ago. Is going 555 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: to get more and more glaring, and the NCAA is 556 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: going to be in a position like it was with nil, 557 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: where instead of trying to get ahead of the curve. 558 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: They're trying to catch up with it. And I mean, 559 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: you've had Jim Harbaugh this this week come out and 560 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: talk about the fact that he wants players to share 561 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 3: in the revenue. And I think more coaches are going 562 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: to have to do that, because as long as Jim 563 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: Horrod Harbaugh stays in college football, even if they don't 564 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: institute revenue sharing, he's gonna be viewed as the ally 565 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: you want. You're gonna want to go play for him. 566 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: So you're gonna see more and more coaches jump on 567 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: this train, for sure, until Clemson's coach depos when he 568 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: finally revers his course and decides that he likes getting 569 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: paid two billion dollars a year in the ACC and 570 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 3: that it's okay if his kids can afford payment on 571 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: a Toyota Corolla. 572 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeh. Next thing up is the college football they have 573 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: put they have returned their returning starters their returning starters graphic. 574 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 2: So if you look Colorado at three with the least 575 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: amount according to this graphic, Utah with sixteen, cow with 576 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 2: sixteen USC and Oregon and Washington at fourteen, Oregon State 577 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 2: at twelve, UCLA Arizona and Arizona State at eleven, Washington 578 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: State at ten, in Stanford at six, and I'm like, 579 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 2: is this accurate, Ralph? 580 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Colorado's is higher than I thought 581 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 3: it'd be. I know me too, I didn't know they 582 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 3: had three starters returning. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think 583 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: that there should be like a slot for returning starters 584 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 3: from other teams, so like twenty seven returning starters. 585 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 2: When you can only have twenty two spots on the field. 586 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: But I mean it seems to be in direct correlation 587 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: with the teams that people think are going to challenge 588 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: for the for the for the Pactal title, except for well, yeah, 589 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 3: we'll see. We'll see. We'll see what it means for 590 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 3: cal it so much is resting on their oc higher 591 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: but it's not even funny. But we'll see. They were 592 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: competitive defensively last year. 593 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: Yep, they so we shall see what's up with that. 594 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 2: But there's there's another thing before we get to the games. 595 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 2: This this week you had Nick Saban not put out 596 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: a depth chart. And I really started paying attention to 597 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: depth charts more when Mark Christobaul was was an organ 598 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: because they used to all make me laugh because everything 599 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: was or yeah, or or or or or and you're like, 600 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: wait really, or man, come on. But Nick Saban is 601 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 2: not putting one out because he says it's a distraction 602 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: to his players and not good for their like, you know, 603 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 2: mental emotional health. 604 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 3: The fact that you agree with them, I'm gonna I'm 605 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 3: gonna preempt you and point out the fact that the 606 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: fact that you agree with this is wild to me. Why, 607 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, I just it just feels like, who is. 608 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: The depth chart for? Though you? It is that you. 609 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: You You have to remember that everybody in the locker 610 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: room knows what the depth chart is. Everybody in the 611 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: locker room knows. You don't have to print out a 612 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 2: depth chart for everybody to know who's in what position. 613 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 2: Everybody knows. In practice, Bo Nicks goes first, Tyg Thompson 614 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 2: goes second. Novasak, who was at and this is at Oregon, 615 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: who was competing and it was a close competition for 616 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: the number two spot. He goes third. Bo gets the 617 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 2: most amount of reps, ty gets the second most amount 618 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 2: of reps. Novasak gets the third amount of reps. If 619 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: there are any left at the wide receiver position, same thing, 620 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 2: running back position, same thing, or you know what situations 621 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 2: that you play with packages that you play, So why 622 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: do so? Who's the depth chart really for? Ralph gets 623 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 2: for people playing fantasy college football for the other team. 624 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 3: Entertainment consumption that only exists because people are consuming it 625 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 3: for entertainment. This isn't a thing that would be going 626 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 3: on if people on the outside weren't interested in it. 627 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna wave it just random people want to spend 628 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 3: their weekend. 629 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 2: I understand that. 630 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 3: Do they do this at the NFL level? 631 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: Yes, they do it at the NFL level. 632 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 3: So we're worried about the feeling of the young men, 633 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 3: but not the feeling of the professional man. 634 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 2: Correct. 635 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 3: So the feeling is, well, these kids aren't professionals, they're amateurs, 636 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 3: so we need to protect them a little bit more 637 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 3: because Oregon's doing it too, Dan Lanning's doing it too, 638 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 3: and you know all these other coaches are gonna follow suit. 639 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: Well, see, I think it's bigger than that. I think 640 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 2: what it is is that these coaches are trying to 641 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 2: keep their players out of the transfer portal because when 642 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 2: you put out a depth chart, people are gonna have 643 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 2: more questions and be like, oh, my god, why is 644 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 2: he behind this guy? And why is that? You need 645 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: to get up out of there. They don't respect you 646 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 2: because there's an there's an element of public embarrassment by 647 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 2: not being at the top of the depth chart, and 648 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 2: it causes a distraction. It caused it. It does cause 649 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 2: a distraction within the team because depth charts. Depth charts 650 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 2: feel final to players, even at the beginning of season. 651 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 2: They feel like there's a a finality to it and 652 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: don't realize like, yo, it's football. Stuff happens all the time. 653 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 3: Wes up too much then, because even being on a 654 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 3: depth chart is awesome, even seeing your name and number 655 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 3: four fullback is awesome. 656 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 2: It doesn't feel awesome when you're when you're the person 657 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 2: who's fourth on that depth chart, unless you wear a 658 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 2: walk on it does not feel good. 659 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 3: Where is though, man telling the telling the game operation 660 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 3: stadium crew not to replay stuff on the jumbo tron 661 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 3: if somebody drops a pass. 662 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: No, that's different because you are in the game and 663 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 2: he's just talking about locker room management. So I don't 664 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: blame him. I do think that it is that people 665 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 2: will need to grow up and that you have to 666 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: do it. But you've got to remember that these kids 667 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: are faced with a lot more public scrutiny now, and 668 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 2: you have people in their dms, Oh my god, you 669 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 2: suck your third on it like it's just it's just 670 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 2: another way for people to attack them. So I understand 671 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: where Nick Saban is coming from. Some people are going 672 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 2: to think that that's coddling players, and all it is. 673 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 3: It is here's the deal, Nick Saban. Nick Saban said 674 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 3: that the hardest thing of the last few seasons has 675 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 3: been when that depth chart comes out. Then the locker 676 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: room gets hard to manage because of this situation of 677 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 3: college football and the fact that people reach out, oh, 678 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 3: I see your number three. You come out here, you 679 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 3: be number one right like. 680 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: YOUA and in other packs nil stuff too, because because 681 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 2: people who've signed kids to deals. 682 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 3: Want them to play. 683 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're like, oh, why is he second or 684 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: third on the depth chart? And I'm paying this and uh, 685 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 2: you know, I'm one of the boosters. And yet that's 686 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, is that is that the field is 687 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 2: gonna tell it, so you don't have to put it out. 688 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: You don't have to put it out. 689 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 3: Here's what it feels like to me. You remember the 690 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 3: other day when you were like you tweeted like, how 691 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 3: come hotels can give us instant hot water but my 692 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 3: house can't? Yes, okay, did you ever think that you 693 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 3: grow up being worried about something like that when you 694 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 3: were in Memphis as a kid? 695 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 2: No? 696 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 3: Right? That so that I Nick Saban's team and situation 697 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 3: is so damn good. He got so much money, he's 698 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 3: got so many accolades that all he has time to 699 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 3: do is sit here and worry about little stuff like this. 700 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure he never in a million years when he 701 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 3: was at Michigan State. 702 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 2: Thought that the depth chart was gonna be a problem. 703 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that he was gonna have to protect his own 704 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 3: players from the list of who is playing. 705 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I think it's I. 706 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 3: And he and he took a shot at the media 707 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 3: when he announced this. He took a shot at the 708 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 3: media saying, I know you guys don't focus on the game. 709 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 3: You only focus on the depth chart, which is the 710 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 3: real dick thing to say. And I want to say that, 711 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 3: as sacrilegious as it is to say that Nick Saban 712 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 3: can be soft, he is being soft. 713 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: No way, what are you kidding me? Well, see weigh. 714 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 3: Usel has filtered its way into his emotional processing. 715 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 2: Wow, you guys can weigh in. I'm mad at unafraid 716 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 2: show dot com. Shoot us an email, hit us up 717 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: on any fun. 718 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 3: He is the only email you get it from him, 719 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 3: and he's upset. 720 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,959 Speaker 2: Dude, I understand his line of thinking, I'm not mad 721 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 2: mad at it. If I were a head coach, I 722 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 2: would consider, like, whom am I kinda put out a 723 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 2: depth chart to the public. I don't know, And that'd. 724 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 3: Be like not putting numbers on the side of a 725 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 3: swimming pool public swimming pool, Like, oh for how depth? 726 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no, well we don't know. 727 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 3: Kids don't want to swim because of where the number 728 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 3: that says twelve, and they think they might drown. So 729 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 3: we're just gonna take the numbers right off the side 730 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 3: of the pool. 731 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 2: That'll fix the problem. Yeah, all right, onto the games 732 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 2: because we have a full slate of games this weekend, 733 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: so we gotta fly. 734 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 3: Exhausting, It is exactly non conference is exhausting. Yes, it 735 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 3: really is, because we watch every game. 736 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 2: Yep. So first things up, PAC twelve is already one 737 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 2: to no congratulations, Actually, are we still I mean I 738 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 2: can't Yeah, I still am back to pack for this 739 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: year though. 740 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, George Kleiakov is out there in Dallas trying to 741 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 3: figure out how to win US a national championship. 742 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 2: So love it. 743 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 3: I guess we are too. 744 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 2: Love it all right. So you have Utah getting Florida 745 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 2: at their home. This time they gotta come to Rice 746 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 2: Eco Stadium. It's totally different. I bet you they think 747 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,479 Speaker 2: the swamp is the greatest place of all time. They're 748 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 2: gonna go into Rice Echoes and they're gonna be like, 749 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 2: oh my god, this is just like this is just 750 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 2: like the Hill Stadium. 751 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a You got a frigerator and a mini fridge, get. 752 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 2: Cold, both gets cold. Then they both got a freezer, 753 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 2: except for the one in Utah, because you know them, 754 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 2: them mini fridge freezers always freeze up. They always end 755 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,479 Speaker 2: up with ice in them. So might be a little 756 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 2: bit colder in the many fridge, Buddy, is gonna be rough? 757 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 3: Elevation of Jacksonville or Gainesville that area? 758 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 2: You probably zero? 759 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 3: What do you think it is in salt like one 760 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 3: hundred and ninety feet above sea level Jacksonville? 761 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Zero. 762 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 3: I think Salt Lake City might be higher than Denver. No, 763 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: it's not it's forty three hundred, So they got they 764 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 3: got about a four thousand foot elevation. 765 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 2: That's a significant thing, bro a little bit. Yeah, you're 766 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: gonna have some cramps in game one, except for the 767 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 2: kids from Utah. And so there's no Anthony Richardson this 768 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: week because he's because he plays for the Colts. Yeah. 769 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 3: Got Wisconsin's Graham Mertz taking snaps with my guy Jack 770 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 3: Miller as a backup in Florida. 771 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 2: Oh, are you encourages Are you encouraged by this by. 772 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 3: What Graham Mertz being the quarterback of the Gators. Yes, no, 773 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 3: I mean Florida struggled offensively last year with one of 774 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 3: the best duel threats I've ever seen in my life. 775 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 3: Like one of the best athletes. Please do not take 776 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 3: this as a comparison, one of the best athletes in 777 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 3: the backfield since Cam Newton as far as like size, speed, 778 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 3: arm strength. Obviously Cam Newton did twice as much, one 779 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 3: twice as much. You know, both of them still end 780 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 3: up picked in the first round. But but you are 781 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 3: changing that out for Graham Mertz, a you know, cerebral 782 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 3: pocket passing, big ten guy. And so that's gonna be 783 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 3: a drastic shift in what billion Apier is trying to do. 784 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 3: Maybe it'll be better, Maybe it'll be better, But it 785 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 3: was Anthony Richardson that killed Utah last year and a 786 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 3: late interception from Cam Rising Utah probably should have won 787 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 3: that game. Yes, for being honest, yea is Cam Rising playing? 788 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 3: I feel like he is, But like I do the line, 789 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 3: how much has that line changed? The line on this game? 790 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 2: So it opened at nine and a half for Utah, 791 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 2: now it's four and a half. 792 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 3: I think it'll be close. If camp I'm I'm gonna 793 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 3: qualify this, but obviously my pick's my pick. If Cam 794 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 3: Rising plays, I like him to win by six or seven. 795 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm gonna take Utah. 796 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm taking Utah. I'm taking Utah and the over they 797 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 2: overs forty four and a half. 798 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I'm I'm with you on that. I think 799 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be some scoring. There's been a 800 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 3: little bit more scoring in in Salt Lake City than 801 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 3: in years past, And I trust Bill Napier's a really 802 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 3: good offensive coach, like really good. So I think there's 803 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 3: gonna be some points scored. But I just don't know 804 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 3: if I trust that Florida's put it all together. Yet 805 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 3: we'll call it a revenge game. Did you see the 806 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 3: news report that Florida tried to poach Cam Rising in 807 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,760 Speaker 3: the off season. They ended up with Graham Mertz at quarterback, 808 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 3: but they were going after everybody to try to get 809 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 3: a quarterback in there, and they went after Cam Rising 810 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 3: at Utah to try to see if you'd be willing 811 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 3: to transfer to Florida. 812 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess you are supposed to kick 813 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 2: the tires on everything. Oh, that's that's so funny, kick 814 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 2: the tires. And then I looked at the KSL article 815 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 2: and it's kicked the tires. 816 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 3: Could you be walking into somebody else's garage and kicking 817 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 3: the tires on their car? 818 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 2: Though? Yes, of course, of course, I'm saying, if you're 819 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 2: willing to come up, come over here and hang out. 820 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 3: USC of the South. 821 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 2: Florida was desperate. So I mean, if we know anything 822 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 2: about Utah kids, I would have told you that unless 823 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 2: you were the amount of money to get Cam Rising 824 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 2: would have been not like the juice wouldn't have been 825 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 2: worth the squeeze. 826 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 3: Didn't Dalton Kinkaid turned down like a million from Alabama. Yeah, 827 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 3: It's funny how this stuff keeps leaking out about coaches 828 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 3: reaching out to kids who are still on scholarship somewhere else. Well, 829 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 3: I don't think the UAB, Trent dilfrett ua be well, 830 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 3: I know some I know coaches at Michigan definitely reached 831 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 3: out to Arizona State kids. Well, they were still on 832 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 3: the roster, Like, okay, that's why I was able to 833 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 3: tweet out that an offensive lineman was going to Michigan 834 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 3: while he was still enrolled at ASSU. How would I 835 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 3: know that? But the uh, the Trent del Forer at 836 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 3: UAB went on a radio show and he's like, I 837 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 3: dare a coach to come get my kids. He's like, 838 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 3: I know every media member in the country, I'm gonna 839 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 3: read your DMS on the air. And he said, the 840 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 3: only reason the other coaches don't do that, and Pat 841 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 3: Pat Norducci has kind of done it a little bit 842 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 3: at pitt But the only reason other coaches don't do 843 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 3: that is because they want to be able to do 844 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 3: it themselves. Yeah, of course, I'm I'm curious to see 845 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,720 Speaker 3: if Trent Dilfer actually follows through and dimes out coaches 846 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 3: in the media. 847 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 2: No, you can. 848 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 3: He's being naive like he's gonna be the one in 849 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 3: people's dms. 850 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody will be in somebody's DMS at some point. Well, actually, 851 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 2: DM in is a little too reckless. It's a phone call. 852 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 3: Usually, and people doing it. Then they gotta quit it. 853 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,919 Speaker 3: They had to quit following players. Here's what coaches needed 854 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 3: they because you can now hide your likes. Elon Musk 855 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 3: is letting people who are have to blue or X 856 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 3: blue or whatever hide their likes. Right. You have to 857 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 3: not follow the prospects while they're still on a roster, 858 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 3: because this is how I was learning who who might go? 859 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 3: Where is? You're having assistant coaches follow players while the 860 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 3: season is still going on, and I keep track of 861 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 3: that stuff. 862 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 2: Mm yeah, that's a tailtale sign. Gotcha, gotcha, buddy, gotcha? Gotcha. 863 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 864 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 865 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 866 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: listen live. 867 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 2: So we're both taking Utah minus four and a half 868 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 2: and I got the over. Are you taking it over 869 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:47,959 Speaker 2: as well? 870 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 3: I'm with you? 871 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 2: Yep? All right? Next game. Arizona State host Southern Utah. 872 00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 2: That game is on PAC twelve network at seven pm. 873 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 2: There's there's no spread. Where should we set this spread? 874 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 2: At twenty seven six? 875 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 3: What is five touchdowns? Is thirty five? Six touchdowns is 876 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 3: forty two? Should we split the baby? 877 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 2: Okay? 878 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 3: Okay, Now I have to do math thirty eight and 879 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 3: a half? 880 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 2: All right, I'm I'm good with thirty eight and a half. Okay, 881 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 2: that's a lot of freaking points. It's a lot of 882 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 2: freaking points. And Southern Utah is terrible, yes, but I 883 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 2: oh gosh, I'm gonna take the under. Well well sorry, 884 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 2: not not the under. I'm gonna take Southern Utah in 885 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 2: a thirty eight and a half points. 886 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll be on the opposite side, just to be contrary. 887 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 3: And the only real storyline from this is that Ray 888 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 3: Anderson came out sacrifice the bowl even though the NCAA 889 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 3: said they don't want people to miss bulls anymore. And 890 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,479 Speaker 3: the reason that he had to do that is because 891 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 3: he missed every opportunity to give something up in previous years. 892 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 3: And uh, that's a that's a huge bummer. And it 893 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 3: looked like killing Kenny. You you tell me because you 894 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 3: followed Keny dolling Ham pretty closely to organ. He looked 895 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,919 Speaker 3: pissed off when this happened. Yes, said he was old 896 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 3: six thirty in the morning on Sunday, that you weren't 897 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 3: going to be able to play in a bowl this 898 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,439 Speaker 3: year when you have a game four days later. Yeah, yeah, 899 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 3: that was guard got a bunch of transfer. That was 900 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 3: garbage out this roster. 901 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 2: Super garbage bro like they they waited until kids couldn't like, 902 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,439 Speaker 2: it's too close to where kids could bounce and still 903 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 2: get a waiver. Yeah, yeah, this was This was horrible 904 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 2: and Ray Ray Ray Anderson should not be athletic director. 905 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying. 906 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 3: This is a I think this particular action, we'll call 907 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 3: it bum shit. He did some bum shit. So he 908 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 3: put out a statement saying the ASU was giving up 909 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 3: their bowl and they're not going to comment further. And 910 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 3: then they let Kenny Dillingham stand in front of the media, 911 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 3: and then Kenny Dillingham let his players stand in front 912 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 3: of the media. Then Kenny Dillingham got back in front 913 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 3: of the media on the next day and he said, 914 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 3: everybody needs to move on. We had one day to 915 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 3: complain about it. We got to move on, and right 916 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 3: then and then after he came out and said we 917 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,959 Speaker 3: have to move on, ASU's athletic off his paniced because 918 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 3: the whole country is making fun of them for giving 919 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 3: up a bowl when the NCAA doesn't want anybody to 920 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 3: give up bulls. So after they said they were they 921 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 3: dropped a statement. They dropped a statement after they said 922 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 3: they weren't going to comment anymore. After Kenny Dillingham told 923 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 3: everybody to move on, they came out and said, we'll 924 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 3: look at Tennessee's case. Tennessee got enhanced fines and all 925 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 3: these recruiting penalties. We gave up a bowl because we 926 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 3: don't think we can handle the level of recruiting penalties 927 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 3: that Tennessee got. You have no evidence that they're going 928 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,720 Speaker 3: to take this bowl and not give you those recruiting penalties. 929 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 3: You don't know, so they're guessing, And how are the 930 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 3: fans supposed to move on? When you said you wouldn't comment, 931 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 3: then your coach tell everybody to move on, and then 932 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,280 Speaker 3: you come out and you want you have to defend yourself, 933 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 3: so you go back on your original word that you 934 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 3: won't gonna say anything. They are absolutely running a clown 935 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 3: show at Arizona State, and I, oh gosh, I hope 936 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 3: they go eleven and one, just eleven for two middle fingers. 937 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Hey, the if ASU wins enough games 938 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 2: to win a bowl game, I will to make a 939 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 2: bowl game. ASU fans will never forgive him for this. 940 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 3: They should have their own bowl like out in the 941 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 3: Street or something. Come up with their own bowl game. 942 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 2: All right, so what do you have for what should 943 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 2: we set the over under as for this? 944 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 3: Do you want to do over runners on these acting? 945 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 2: No? 946 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 3: No, yeah, let's skip the ones on the We'll set 947 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 3: a spread. We'll set all these spreads at like thirty 948 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 3: eight and a half for the for the Big Sky schools. 949 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 3: All right? 950 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 2: Uh, Hawaii versus Stanford. That's on Saturday, and no, it's 951 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:05,240 Speaker 2: on Friday. Excuse me? Stanford is Stanford opened at minus 952 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 2: ten versus Hawaii. They are minus three and a half points. 953 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 2: They're only given three and a half points versus Hawaii, 954 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 2: and the over under is fifty nine and a half. 955 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 2: I don't this is Troy Taylor's first soiree as Stanford 956 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 2: head coach. I have no idea what to make out 957 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 2: of this, Ralph, but I am going to just go 958 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 2: because it's Stanford. They should not be losing to Hawaii 959 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 2: and they shouldn't be winning by just a mere field goal. 960 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 2: So I am gonna go Stanford minus three and a 961 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 2: half because I refuse to believe that that they're bad. 962 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 3: That I'm about that. I'll ride with you on Stanford. 963 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 3: And then here's the other pretty funny thing. You know 964 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 3: how you were laughing about the depth charts that say, 965 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 3: or yeah, this is Stanford's depth chart. Quarterback Ashton Daniels 966 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 3: or Justin Lampson or Ari Patu, running back E J. 967 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 3: Smith or Casey Filkins or Cedric Irvin or Ryan Butler. 968 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 3: Wide receiver one, John Humphries or Jason Rains wide receiver two, 969 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 3: Eric I Yeoman or or Bryce Ferrell wide receiver three, 970 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 3: Moodia Rubin or Tiger Bachmeyer. They ORed everybody, six receivers, 971 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 3: four running backs, three quarterbacks, everybody. The only thing they 972 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 3: have said is their own line. 973 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 2: And wait and they're and their tight end. 974 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 3: And they're yeah, yeah, he's very good. 975 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. They were like, we're not even gonna play 976 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 2: around here because nobody would believe that. 977 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. But yeah, so that that made me laugh because 978 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 3: that I mean, that's just overboard stupid from Troy Taylor. 979 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah too much or or or or. 980 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 3: All right, buddy, what's over under on this one? 981 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 2: Fifty nine and a half under. I'm gonna go with 982 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 2: the under two. Well, how are we in agreement so much? 983 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 2: Next game up? I couldn't. Why am I so excited 984 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 2: about a game that I know what's going to happen? Well, partially, 985 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 2: TCU has a new quarterback and all that. So if 986 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 2: if Max Duggan was a back, I wouldn't even be 987 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 2: thinking about this. Oh my god. The line TCU versus Colorado. 988 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 2: This game's on Fox at nine AM on Saturday. TCU 989 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 2: is favored by twenty and a half points. Ralph twenty 990 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 2: and a half points. What is going on here? 991 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 3: Well, one team just played in the National Championship and 992 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 3: one team had to replace literally everyone, So I mean 993 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 3: it's a fair line. They can't just Deon's hype can't 994 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 3: affect the actual numbers. 995 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 2: Okay. 996 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 3: That has to get it to where people are betting 997 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 3: on both sides. 998 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 2: Bro twenty and a half Okay, So TCU. According to 999 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 2: Pick six previews, they were picked fourth in the conference, 1000 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 2: behind Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas State, now, I don't know how 1001 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 2: good Oklahoma's gonna be, but that's a whole nother story. 1002 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 2: But TCU, though last year they beat Colorado by twenty 1003 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 2: five points in the beginning of the season thirty eight 1004 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 2: to thirteen, twenty five points, they played a lot of 1005 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 2: close games last year because their defense was atrocious. Yeah, 1006 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 2: Colorado plus twenty and a. 1007 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 3: Half, wooing. I'm on TCU. I'd have been comfortable at 1008 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 3: twenty seven and a half. I don't know if you saw, 1009 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 3: but Tom louganbil came out and basically said what we 1010 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 3: said on this podcast or what I said on this 1011 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 3: podcast last week, like two and ten is reasonable and 1012 00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 3: the O line and D line are garbage. So Deon 1013 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,919 Speaker 3: Sanders didn't like that. By the way, he called Tom 1014 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 3: lougan bill out. I told him to come to practice. 1015 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't think I think this is gonna 1016 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 3: be one of the most talented teams in the Pac 1017 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 3: twelve in spots, but I don't think it's enough to 1018 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 3: put it all together right away. I think Deon's going 1019 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 3: to do really special things, it's just not going to 1020 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 3: happen in the Pack twelve. So I'm gonna ride with 1021 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 3: TCU UH, and also want to mention that Joel Klatt 1022 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 3: also put some content out this week uh calling out 1023 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 3: the NCUBA for not approving. 1024 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler Tyler tyler Y Brown. 1025 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, his his transfer waiver, which is he made. I'm 1026 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 3: not gonna make a point better than he made, but 1027 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 3: he basically said, like, what kind of person doesn't have 1028 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 3: the common sense if you if you are in a 1029 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,919 Speaker 3: position to hear an appeal, what kind of person doesn't 1030 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 3: have the common sense to say like, this kid has 1031 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 3: struggled a lot with his mental health over his college 1032 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 3: football career and would be better served to be playing 1033 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 3: under Dion Sanders. 1034 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:08,479 Speaker 2: Man, It's terrible, dude, absolutely terrible, and now they're still 1035 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 2: waiting on the kid from North Carolina to get his 1036 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 2: his appeal heard. But yeah, this over under is sixty 1037 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 2: one and a half over in every single spot. This 1038 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 2: feels like an easy over to me, Ralph sixty one 1039 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 2: and a half. That's thirty one points apiece. There's not 1040 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 2: gonna be enough defense played and played in this game 1041 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 2: to stop anybody. They both teams are getting the thirty 1042 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 2: points or more. 1043 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 3: I like it to be a total of sixty five, 1044 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 3: so I will ride with you on that. And the 1045 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 3: other thing I wanted to bring up from this is 1046 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 3: did you see Travis Hunter's Heisman prediction? Yes, four Heisman finalists. Yeah, 1047 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 3: he said we're actually like taking him seriously and telling 1048 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 3: him he was an idiot. 1049 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was himself, Shador Sanders, because for 1050 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 2: him to be there, that means that your door pretty 1051 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 2: much has to be there too. And then you have 1052 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams and who is the fourth Boone Nicks? 1053 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was fun. I don't know why 1054 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 3: anybody got upset by that. This is a this is 1055 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 3: a future top five NFL pick having fun. 1056 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not mad at it. I just think that 1057 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 2: they believe that they're gonna be better than they are 1058 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 2: and then that they're gonna get humble real fast. But 1059 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 2: the other part of it is if they win these 1060 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 2: games though, if they start out like three and two, 1061 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 2: Lord help us all insufferable yep, and they dudes, that 1062 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 2: recruiting is gonna go crazy. Everybody's gonna be like, hey, baby, 1063 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 2: we just getting started over here. What do you think 1064 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 2: is gonna be like next year? 1065 01:01:55,400 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 3: Who you thought Jennie Johnny Minzel was famous just Inland 1066 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 3: and then nationwide like Dion's already ten times more famous 1067 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 3: than Manziel was. Dan like this, but I. 1068 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 2: Don't know if he'll let his players be famous. That's different. 1069 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's different. All right. Next game up, Oregon 1070 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 2: versus Portland State. 1071 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 1072 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 2: We said that we were gonna set it at thirty 1073 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 2: eight and a half points. Damn, that's a lot of points. 1074 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 2: I'm still taking. I'm taking Oregon minus thirty eight and 1075 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 2: a half. 1076 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 3: I will ride with you on that as well. 1077 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dad, that feels like a no brainer. 1078 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 3: Portland State's quarterback is fun. He is a dual threat. 1079 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 2: Okay, uh. 1080 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 3: I think he rushing last year? 1081 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 2: Sure? Here? 1082 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I think his brother plays for the Cardinals. 1083 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 3: He's an athlete. He's athlete. I think he had like 1084 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 3: nineteen touchdoun passes last year and had like over seven 1085 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 3: hundred yards rushing. So that'll give the defense a nice test. 1086 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 3: It won't It won't be. I think that's important. I 1087 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 3: think you want to actually get something out of these 1088 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,960 Speaker 3: big sky games that you wind up. Yes, yes, but 1089 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 3: and the way that college football works, it might be 1090 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 3: his audition. 1091 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 2: He might be his audition to come right on down 1092 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 2: that five freeway, buddy, because Oregon's going to take a 1093 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 2: transfer after this year. 1094 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 3: They've done it before quite a few times, especially from 1095 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 3: the Big Sky, so like, come. 1096 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 2: On, come on in, baby, come on in. Yeah, they 1097 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 2: went to the Eastern Washington well won too many times though. 1098 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 2: All right, Washington versus Boise State. This game's on Saturday, 1099 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 2: twelve thirty. So oh, so you got the Oregon and 1100 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 2: the Poise State game on it. I said, the Boise 1101 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:43,439 Speaker 2: State game. 1102 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 3: That's very funny. 1103 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 2: The Washington game on at the same time, twelve thirty. 1104 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 2: Washington's favorite by fourteen and a half points. Yeah, this 1105 01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 2: is tough. So Andy avlos one and zero versus Washington. 1106 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 2: As a defensive coordinator, the one was at Oregon, so 1107 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 2: that ain't what he got at Boise State. Washington is 1108 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 2: known to kind of put up some duds every now 1109 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 2: and then, but everybody believes that this team is so good, 1110 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 2: so good, so good. They have a first round wide receiver, 1111 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 2: Michael Pennett's at quarterback. They are going to Ah, Lord 1112 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 2: have mercy, who are you going with with this? Fourteen 1113 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 2: and a half points? 1114 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 3: Uh? Boise is such like classically, they're so good at 1115 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 3: preparing for these early season opponents, And I don't know 1116 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 3: if Washington's defense is trustworthy yet. And Boise has George 1117 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 3: Hollane in like his fifth season in college foot we 1118 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 3: have so many of these players in his fifth season 1119 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 3: in college football, he's already rushed for over a thousand 1120 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,959 Speaker 3: yards twice, five hundred and fifty in his college career, 1121 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 3: already averaging five yards of rush. So I think boise 1122 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,959 Speaker 3: will hold the ball. I do, And I think it'll 1123 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 3: be an awesome test for this defense that's supposed to 1124 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 3: have elite pass rushers to see if they can actually 1125 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 3: bottle up the run against a running back who has 1126 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 3: been doing this since pre COVID, like he's been eating 1127 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 3: up yards since since before COVID. So I think I I'm 1128 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 3: gonna take Boise State. I think it'll be a fourteen 1129 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 3: point win. That half a point I think is the killer. 1130 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 2: Now their defense gave up points. Yeah, I believe their 1131 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 2: defense is gonna give up points this year. Boise States 1132 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,640 Speaker 2: quarterback is a good athlete, all right. I'm gonna go 1133 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 2: with Boise State plus fourteen and a half, even though 1134 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,959 Speaker 2: I do believe that they're gonna lose this game. Now 1135 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 2: over under sixty. 1136 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 3: Over I'm gonna go for what is that seventy? 1137 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 2: No, yes, yes, that's seventy. 1138 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 3: I'm taking the over. 1139 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the over as well. Yep. Yeah, 1140 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:26,439 Speaker 2: over makes it makes it stick a like let's go yep. 1141 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 2: North Texas versus Cow on Saturday. 1142 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 3: In in Texas. 1143 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Cows favored by ninety and a half points. 1144 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 2: Now interesting, for four of the five North Texas oppositive 1145 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 2: linemen are under three hundred pounds. 1146 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 3: That is wild. What wow, that could be a problem. 1147 01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I am going to go with Cal minus 1148 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 2: nine and a half. 1149 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 3: I will take them as well. I am fascinated to 1150 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 3: see if, if, if they can recapture some of the 1151 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 3: sunny Dyke's glory bringing their o C back. 1152 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 2: Take it brother and over under fifty eight and a half. 1153 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 2: It's still col now under under, I don't trust CAW 1154 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 2: to score points until Cal shows they can score points. 1155 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 3: Twenty four to tens of winner, thirty five to tens 1156 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:28,919 Speaker 3: a winner. 1157 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. All of those numbers feel like they make 1158 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 2: a lot of sense. USC versus Nevada on Pack twelve 1159 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 2: Network for the second time in a row for the 1160 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:45,440 Speaker 2: Heisman twinter winner Caleb Williams USC winner. 1161 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 3: That's it. That's the T shirt, Heisman twinter since he's 1162 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 3: gonna get two. Oh damn, I like it all right. 1163 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 2: USC minus thirty eight. 1164 01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 3: Points hmmm, Well. 1165 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 2: That's a lot of freaking points, bro, I mean, that's 1166 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 2: a massive amount of points. 1167 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,440 Speaker 3: And you know they're probably gonna give up some scoring, 1168 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 3: so they gotta go thirty eight beyond thirty nine, beyond 1169 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 3: whatever they give up. Yeah, I don't know, man. They 1170 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 3: were throwing the ball in the fourth quarter up twenty. 1171 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,920 Speaker 3: They had me scared. They were they because they were 1172 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 3: trying to get work for every quarterback. I'm gonna say no, 1173 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:38,639 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say thirty five. 1174 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:47,400 Speaker 2: I am going to agree with you. I'm gonna even take. 1175 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,600 Speaker 3: Fifty five to twenty is like A is losing. 1176 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:55,559 Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, So give me USC. Well, sorry to win 1177 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,840 Speaker 2: win the game, but I'm taking Nevada plus thirty eight 1178 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,639 Speaker 2: and a half. But I need that over. I need 1179 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 2: that over. It's sixty three and a half. That feels 1180 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:11,400 Speaker 2: like a layup because worst case scenario, USC might damn 1181 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,080 Speaker 2: near get you all the way to sixty three all 1182 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 2: by themselves. 1183 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 3: What do you think of Nevada naming Brendan Lewis their starter. 1184 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 3: We saw him struggle at Colorado, and your boy, Sean 1185 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 3: Dollars is going to be the starting running back. It's 1186 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 3: a little bit of Pac twelve flavor in Reno. 1187 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 2: I hope that things go well for them in Nevada. 1188 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 2: But they just lost their quarterback coach. Really, Nate Costa. 1189 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,639 Speaker 3: That's late in the game to be losing your quarterback coach. 1190 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 2: Yes, he resigned on August twenty second. Wo There was 1191 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 2: nothing nefarious that went on, no scandal, no bad blood 1192 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:57,759 Speaker 2: with the coach. 1193 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 3: He had to spend all his money in you know. 1194 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,559 Speaker 2: Now, hey man, sometimes you get a really good offer 1195 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 2: that you don't feel like you can turn down. 1196 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 3: I love it. Good for him, Good for him. I'm excited. 1197 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 3: I like Brandon Lewis, I like Sean Dollars. Here's another question. 1198 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 3: Is this the last time us he's ever going to 1199 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 3: be on Pack twelve network? 1200 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 2: No. I think they have to be on there three 1201 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,720 Speaker 2: times throughout the throughout the year. So no. And the 1202 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:22,719 Speaker 2: funny part. 1203 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 3: Is we're going to get the Grinch game again. 1204 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,800 Speaker 2: Yes, they are trying to get them out of the 1205 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 2: way in the beginning of the season. Okay, So they'll 1206 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 2: either put the So the Stanford game is on Fox 1207 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 2: next week, and then then they're awful week and then 1208 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,720 Speaker 2: that Arizona, that Arizona State game will probably be on 1209 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 2: Pack twelve network unless or the Colorado game, unless Colorado 1210 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 2: is has won a couple games. Otherwise that game will 1211 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 2: be on Pack twelve network and that'll be their last one. 1212 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 3: Okay, yep. 1213 01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, like they will get Oregon out of the 1214 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 2: way early too, and you. 1215 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 3: Know, yeah over under sixty three and a half, oh over, 1216 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 3: oh for sure. 1217 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not even not even talking about that Colorado 1218 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:17,719 Speaker 2: State versus Wazoo. Now, Colorado State they look better. 1219 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 3: They have. 1220 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 2: You know, Matt Mummy, the air raid system. They're gonna 1221 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 2: throw about eight thousand times a game. 1222 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,720 Speaker 3: Yep. I just love that they have like a militant 1223 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 3: head coach in Jane Orvel, but their finesse on offense. 1224 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, dude. When Jane Norvel shakes your shakes 1225 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 2: your hand, he's trying to break it. 1226 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:47,760 Speaker 3: I believe you. I believe you. I remember when people 1227 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 3: said that Charlie Strong was a disciplinarian. Yes, and he 1228 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,840 Speaker 3: didn't fit in at Texas because he's trying to bring 1229 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,639 Speaker 3: too much discipline. I heard that Jane Rvel left Charlie 1230 01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 3: Strong to go work for Todd Graham because Charlie Strong 1231 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,400 Speaker 3: wasn't disciplined enough. 1232 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:11,480 Speaker 2: That's too much will Washington State's knew oc Ben Rbuckle. 1233 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 2: How's that offense going to change? Because cam Ward has 1234 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,719 Speaker 2: to be better than he was last years in terms 1235 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 2: of playing on time, because last year he wasn't playing 1236 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 2: on time. He would hold the ball a lot. It 1237 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 2: was like it was like Caleb Williams without the results. 1238 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, he did hold the ball. He made a couple 1239 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 3: of really good throws. It's funny because like he had 1240 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 3: an objectively above average year, but for Washington State it's 1241 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,600 Speaker 3: like the worst year they've ever seen at quarterback. So 1242 01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 3: he's really got to step up. They don't really have 1243 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,479 Speaker 3: much behind him, and you have a quarterback on the 1244 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 3: other side and Clay Millan who is turning heads, and 1245 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 3: you can't go out there. Cam Ward can't go out 1246 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,760 Speaker 3: there and let Clay Millan out shine him. 1247 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 2: He kiing, No, no, no, that would be a major 1248 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 2: bad move. That'd be a bad move all the way around. 1249 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:19,320 Speaker 2: Are you surprised at well, Washington State, there's not a 1250 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,360 Speaker 2: lot of energy nationally about them, But yeah, do you 1251 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 2: think that they can surprise and turn heads? Because this 1252 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 2: spread started at fifteen and now it's sitting at at eleven. 1253 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 2: Who you got Andy over unders at fifty nine and 1254 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:34,639 Speaker 2: a half? 1255 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,680 Speaker 3: All the money's going Colorado State's way. I think it's 1256 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,679 Speaker 3: because they started so slow last year. But I think 1257 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,799 Speaker 3: that if I think Ben Arbuckle could make the difference, 1258 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 3: and they're really talented at running back. Really weird to 1259 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 3: say that the strength of Washington State is the running 1260 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 3: back room. So I'm gonna take Washington State. I'm not 1261 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 3: a Colorado State believer yet, I think they get pasted 1262 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 3: by at least twenty and I'll take the over on 1263 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 3: the fifty nine and a half. 1264 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 2: I'm with you there too, my friend. And that game's 1265 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 2: on Saturday on CBS Sports Network at four o'clock. 1266 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1267 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 1268 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 1269 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 1: listen live. 1270 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:25,679 Speaker 2: Next game up Arizona at NAU Saturday, Pac twelve Network, 1271 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,920 Speaker 2: seven pm. There's no spread? Are you? Are you gonna 1272 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,360 Speaker 2: do like you did last last year when you picked 1273 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,680 Speaker 2: North Dakota State to beat Arizona, and I was like, 1274 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:41,439 Speaker 2: you're a fool. They almost did. No, almost only counts 1275 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 2: and horseshoes and hand grenades. Buddy. 1276 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:43,040 Speaker 1: No. 1277 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,040 Speaker 3: It sounds so weird to say this, but like NAUS or, 1278 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 3: Arizona's been waiting for this game for two years, just 1279 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 3: counting down, grinding their teeth, pissed off. 1280 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,599 Speaker 2: Counting down to a game against NAU. I don't think 1281 01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 2: that's good. Yeah, me tell you. I don't think that's good. 1282 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 3: Here's what I know about NAU. They're full of Arizona kids, 1283 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,599 Speaker 3: so you know, and so is Arizona. You know how 1284 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,679 Speaker 3: I feel about that. Chris Ball is a head coach 1285 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 3: at NAU, and there's rumors that if they don't do 1286 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 3: something this year, they're gonna clean house. And I think 1287 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 3: their coaching staff is super talented, and he does have 1288 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 3: under his belt a win against Arizona, which is like 1289 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 3: the first and one hundred years. I think they're gonna 1290 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 3: get wrecked in this game. I think Arizona's gonna be 1291 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,320 Speaker 3: throwing up fifty in the third quarter. I really do 1292 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,160 Speaker 3: that is This is not how Jetfish wanted his tenure 1293 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,600 Speaker 3: to start out losing to Nau, and I think it 1294 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,639 Speaker 3: really put him behind the eight ball as far as 1295 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 3: the excitement that could have been out there. But the 1296 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,080 Speaker 3: funny thing is two years before that, Nau dropped like 1297 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:51,439 Speaker 3: forty five points on Kevin someone. So this has been 1298 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,799 Speaker 3: pretty goofy the last couple of times. I think Arizona 1299 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 3: puts it to bed really early, and so I'll take 1300 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 3: the thirty eight and a half because if they don't win, 1301 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,960 Speaker 3: it's gonna be just torturous to have flag Staff have 1302 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 3: the upper hand on Tucson. 1303 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,400 Speaker 2: Listen, Arizona State is gonna knock their doors off. Thirty 1304 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 2: eight and a half too many points. Too many points 1305 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 2: give me Nau, Okay, I just, I just I just 1306 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 2: think that the amount of points is just absurd. And 1307 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 2: Arizona's backups aren't as good as other teams backup, So 1308 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,559 Speaker 2: they may they may, you know, they may be up 1309 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,760 Speaker 2: by forty two and then win by thirty five. 1310 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, But there's not a single What's 1311 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 3: crazy is Nau's got really really tall defensive backs against 1312 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 3: t mact's not gonna matter. So I I would love 1313 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,439 Speaker 3: to see him go out there score three times in 1314 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 3: the in the opening game. That'd be fantastic, all right. 1315 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 2: Uh, Ucla versus Coastal Carolina on Saturday, seven thirty pm. 1316 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,080 Speaker 2: Ucla is favored by fourteen and a half points and 1317 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,040 Speaker 2: the over under a sixty seven and a half. 1318 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,200 Speaker 3: That's a lot of points. 1319 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,720 Speaker 2: Chase Garber's, Dante More and the kid from and the 1320 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:10,479 Speaker 2: other quarterbacks Shale are all going to play. According to Chip, 1321 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,640 Speaker 2: even though Chase Garber's is gonna start. 1322 01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,679 Speaker 3: Kind of weird. We talked about that a lot last week. 1323 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 3: I don't think he knows. You said that he probably 1324 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,080 Speaker 3: has a feeling. I don't think he knows. 1325 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,559 Speaker 2: He knows who. Listen, he knows who he thinks it's 1326 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 2: going to be. He normally doesn't play more than one guy. 1327 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 2: He's gonna do it again. I mean he's gonna do it. 1328 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 2: Gonna give them a little bit of time and then 1329 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 2: he'll make a decision. That's it. 1330 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't love anything about the spread or the 1331 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,760 Speaker 3: over unders. So I'm gonna go both. I'm gonna go 1332 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:53,559 Speaker 3: against Ucla on both sides. I'm also fascinated that Tim Beck, 1333 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,559 Speaker 3: who has been an assistant under everyone. He's been a 1334 01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,600 Speaker 3: college assistant for twenty four years he's co He's been 1335 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,640 Speaker 3: the head coach to three different high schools, but he's 1336 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,439 Speaker 3: been an assistant for twenty four years. He helped North 1337 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,960 Speaker 3: Carolina State run a really great offense with Devin Leary 1338 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,160 Speaker 3: the last few years. I think he got ran out 1339 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:16,439 Speaker 3: of Texas and he had some time in Nebraska. He's 1340 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,400 Speaker 3: been everywhere. This is his first time as a college 1341 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,839 Speaker 3: head coach, first time he's been coaching since the eighties, 1342 01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:27,960 Speaker 3: and he's taken over for Chadwell who went to Liberty. 1343 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 3: And the expectations that Coastal Carolina is going to keep 1344 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,960 Speaker 3: that offense going, This is a different offense. So I 1345 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,600 Speaker 3: don't know if I trust Coastal Carolina either, but I 1346 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 3: definitely don't trust UCLA at this point in the season. 1347 01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 3: So I'm taking Coastal Carolina plus four and a half 1348 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,080 Speaker 3: and the under. 1349 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:50,840 Speaker 2: All right, give me UCLA plus the points. I do 1350 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,479 Speaker 2: believe that they're going they like. They have a history 1351 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 2: of starting slowly, and I wouldn't put that past them. 1352 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,639 Speaker 2: But it is a different regime over there Coastal Cara 1353 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,880 Speaker 2: Carolina and UCLA's defense has gotta be better. It just 1354 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:12,519 Speaker 2: has to be. And this this over under feels a 1355 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:16,080 Speaker 2: little bit tight for me. Feels a little bit tight 1356 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,120 Speaker 2: because if I'm gonna take the under, that means UCLA's 1357 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,280 Speaker 2: defense is gonna have to play pretty well, you know, 1358 01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,800 Speaker 2: I mean like that, like that they're not gonna be 1359 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,080 Speaker 2: able to give up win forty two to twenty eight. 1360 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:31,280 Speaker 2: If that would be a cover. 1361 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,720 Speaker 3: A DC who's never ever been a DC before. 1362 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:39,240 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, So I'm gonna take the over just in 1363 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:42,599 Speaker 2: case UCLA. You know, their defense is not where it 1364 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,000 Speaker 2: needs to be to start the game. 1365 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,080 Speaker 3: And we got a Sunday game. 1366 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 2: Yes, San Jose State versus Oregon State still be on 1367 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 2: a visit. Then Oregon State's favored by sixteen and a 1368 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,880 Speaker 2: half points. USC just beat this team by twenty eight 1369 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:07,120 Speaker 2: point Oregon State's defense should be better, but Santose State 1370 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:12,599 Speaker 2: has some dudes. I'm still taking Oregon State though, and 1371 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 2: the under of fifty six. 1372 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,160 Speaker 3: And the under Wow, Okay, I love about this game 1373 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,559 Speaker 3: that Chavon Cordio has already played against USC. So we're 1374 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,960 Speaker 3: gonna get some comparative analysis, which is always fun. Chevon 1375 01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:31,280 Speaker 3: Cordero is like a super duper senior, so good luck. 1376 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,639 Speaker 2: Not even just a super senior he's had a. 1377 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 3: Super duper senior for duper senior. 1378 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,080 Speaker 2: Can he wasn't even in danger of throwing a pick? 1379 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 3: No, no, no, he I thought he looked great. I 1380 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 3: really did. Dju Are you excited to He's got three receivers. 1381 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,479 Speaker 3: The starters are all under six foot, so it's gonna 1382 01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,120 Speaker 3: be throwing down at them. He's gonna be like Adam 1383 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,560 Speaker 3: Sandler and Billy Madison throw dodgeballs at kindergartener's. 1384 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh h. Pete Samill put out a tweet, Uh, 1385 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 2: this was today. He was on ESPN less than two 1386 01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 2: hours ago, and he said that here's our update on 1387 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 2: Utah quarterback Cam Rising, whose sources told ESPN it's doubtful 1388 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 2: to play against Florida tomorrow. That's coming from the themill man, who. 1389 01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:38,760 Speaker 3: He knows his stuff. That is a bummer. Well so 1390 01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,800 Speaker 3: we what were we were? We both went with Utah. 1391 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:46,560 Speaker 2: Yep at four and four and a half. I believe. 1392 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 3: Let's let it ride. I'm let it ride. 1393 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 2: I'm letting. I'm letting it ride too, all right? Yeah, 1394 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,240 Speaker 2: So who are you taking? San Jose State? Oregon state 1395 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,840 Speaker 2: sixteen and a half over under fifty six. 1396 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:10,639 Speaker 3: I'm going to take Oregon State and the over. 1397 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,800 Speaker 2: I am going to take Oregon State and the under. 1398 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,439 Speaker 2: I am excited to see what dj Ui Angalle is 1399 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,920 Speaker 2: going to be able to do, if we're gonna see 1400 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:32,280 Speaker 2: Aiden Childs playing as well, if he's gonna get a 1401 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 2: little bit of reps in this game too, is particularly 1402 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,240 Speaker 2: if it gets a little bit out of reach. I'm excited. 1403 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,720 Speaker 2: I'm actually super excited to see this Oregon State team 1404 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,479 Speaker 2: in general. This could be one of the last times 1405 01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 2: that we see them, I mean, put together a team 1406 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,439 Speaker 2: that's super good like this because they may be not 1407 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,280 Speaker 2: a Power five conference, So enjoy it while at lasts 1408 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:58,800 Speaker 2: I hope that it doesn't come, you know, at a 1409 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,960 Speaker 2: bad time, you know what I mean. Like, I hope 1410 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,960 Speaker 2: that they're able to respond and be Okay. 1411 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,720 Speaker 3: All right, So on our way out, pick the pick 1412 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,000 Speaker 3: who you think will be the player of the week. 1413 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So the player of the week is not gonna 1414 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:28,480 Speaker 2: come from Arizona or from Oregon Yeah, yeah, or Arizona 1415 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:40,160 Speaker 2: State because they're playing FCS teams. I'm gonna go with Okay, 1416 01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 2: they're not gonna want to give it to Caleb Williams. Yeah, 1417 01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Caleb Williams versus Nevada. 1418 01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,080 Speaker 3: Okay, and I would agree with you that you shouldn't 1419 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,880 Speaker 3: give it to anybody that plays against a big Sky 1420 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,799 Speaker 3: opponent unless it's a revenge game. So Ted Royal McMillan, 1421 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,720 Speaker 3: you are going to be the PAC twelve player of 1422 01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:03,200 Speaker 3: the week. 1423 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:08,160 Speaker 2: What absolutely not absolutely. 1424 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:13,280 Speaker 3: Five hundred and sixteen yards receiving four touchdowns. It's gonna 1425 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:13,639 Speaker 3: be great. 1426 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 2: Okay. So before we get out of here, I want 1427 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,160 Speaker 2: to go over one thing. So the the blue chip 1428 01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 2: ratios came out for twenty twenty three, and that is 1429 01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 2: the teams who sign the percentage of your roster that 1430 01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:36,520 Speaker 2: is four and five star kids over the last four classes. 1431 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 2: So history says that no team has won a national 1432 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:50,719 Speaker 2: championship without a blue chip ratio over fifty percent. Okay, nobody, 1433 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:59,479 Speaker 2: and that started in twenty and thirteen. Now, of course, 1434 01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:04,599 Speaker 2: you've had teams like Wisconsin, Baylor, Michigan State, TCU, Utah, SINCI, 1435 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:09,000 Speaker 2: and TCU all make the champion or make the playoff 1436 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,519 Speaker 2: in the last decade. Well, the problem with that is 1437 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:16,479 Speaker 2: is that they've all pretty much gotten their doors knocked 1438 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 2: off when they got to play somebody who had a 1439 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:26,360 Speaker 2: high blue chip ratio. Now it's not a measure of 1440 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 2: can you make the playoffs or not, it's just can 1441 01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,519 Speaker 2: you win the national championship or not. So, for instance, 1442 01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, Georgia had a seventy seven percent ratio. 1443 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,920 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one they had an eighty percent ratio, 1444 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,720 Speaker 2: and then and they actually beat the team that had 1445 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:51,720 Speaker 2: the number one blue chip ratio in Alabama. Now and 1446 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,080 Speaker 2: three of the four playoff teams in twenty twenty one 1447 01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:59,160 Speaker 2: were blue chip ratio teams except for Cincinnati, who was 1448 01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:03,280 Speaker 2: the first crash of the party since twenty seventeen. Twenty 1449 01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:10,760 Speaker 2: twenty Alabama eighty three, nineteen, LSU sixty four, Clemson sixty one. 1450 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,479 Speaker 2: Alabama in twenty seventeen eighty percent. Clemson did it with 1451 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:22,080 Speaker 2: fifty two percent as well. So it's you know, so 1452 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:26,200 Speaker 2: now all high school and JUCO signees are counted. Walk 1453 01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:31,880 Speaker 2: ons are not siginees, so they do not count. Now, 1454 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,680 Speaker 2: so how many PAC twelve teams do you think have 1455 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:41,719 Speaker 2: a blue chip ratio of fifty percent zero? There are two? 1456 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,760 Speaker 2: There are two, yes, because one of them fell out 1457 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,880 Speaker 2: last year. And so it is Oregon at sixty seven 1458 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:58,400 Speaker 2: percent and USC at fifty two percent, and guess who 1459 01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,280 Speaker 2: has the highest? This the highest I've ever seen before 1460 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:08,759 Speaker 2: in my life. And remember Georgia had seventy seven percent 1461 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:09,439 Speaker 2: last year. 1462 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I figure you brought it up because it's 1463 01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:12,599 Speaker 3: Dan Lanning. 1464 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,439 Speaker 2: No, no, no Landing. I just told you Oregon organ 1465 01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 2: has sixty. 1466 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,559 Speaker 3: Seven Okay, organized scent is it? Is it? Use USC 1467 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,880 Speaker 3: borrowing from. 1468 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:26,679 Speaker 2: USC has fifty two percent? Fifty two percent. But I'm saying, 1469 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,559 Speaker 2: who do you think is the number one of all 1470 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,799 Speaker 2: the college football oh. 1471 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,759 Speaker 3: In the whole country? I was thinking back to all Okay. 1472 01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,599 Speaker 2: And I told you Georgia last year had seventy seven percent. 1473 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:45,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Uh, I'm gonna say, with the heater they've been on, 1474 01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:47,000 Speaker 3: is it Texas? 1475 01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:48,080 Speaker 2: Nope? 1476 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:48,920 Speaker 3: It is okay? 1477 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,920 Speaker 2: Now, now mind you, is the average over to well, sorry, 1478 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,720 Speaker 2: it's over the last four classes. 1479 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:55,519 Speaker 3: Penn State. 1480 01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 2: Nope, Penn State's only a fifty five percent. It is 1481 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,519 Speaker 2: the Universe City of Alabama. 1482 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,040 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's that. That's trying to be smarter than 1483 01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:04,759 Speaker 3: the question. 1484 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:10,600 Speaker 2: Ninety percent, Ralph ninety ninety. 1485 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 3: That's why he's out here crying about the dipth Churir. 1486 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,840 Speaker 2: Ninety percent. And then Ohio State is number two at 1487 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 2: eighty five percent. 1488 01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,640 Speaker 3: Nick Saban has to worry about his player's feelings like 1489 01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:28,400 Speaker 3: ancient Greeks had to worry about pissing off the gods. 1490 01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 2: Dude, ninety percent, that is unreal. And Ohio State's two 1491 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,000 Speaker 2: at eighty five percent. Georgia is number three at seventy 1492 01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,640 Speaker 2: seven percent, Texas a and m seventy three percent at 1493 01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:45,639 Speaker 2: number four. Hey, the only one thing can be wrong 1494 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:50,559 Speaker 2: there if you got all that talent coach Clemson at 1495 01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,560 Speaker 2: number three, seventy two, LSU seventy one, Texas at seventy, 1496 01:28:54,880 --> 01:29:00,360 Speaker 2: Oklahoma at seventy, Oregon at sixty seven, Notre d at 1497 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:04,679 Speaker 2: sixty five, Florida at sixty four, Miami at sixty one, 1498 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:09,160 Speaker 2: Penn State at fifty five, Michigan at fifty four, USC 1499 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:14,679 Speaker 2: at fifty two, and Auburn at fifty one. So those 1500 01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:16,320 Speaker 2: are the teams that you get to pick to win 1501 01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:17,360 Speaker 2: a national championship. 1502 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:22,479 Speaker 3: Ralph Okay, but well then, how is it going to 1503 01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:27,759 Speaker 3: be Colorado? Then I thought it was gonna be Colorado. 1504 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,559 Speaker 3: I thought that that was the key, was just bring 1505 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:30,439 Speaker 3: theonen and you win. 1506 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:35,800 Speaker 2: No, dude, so give me in the So now give 1507 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,519 Speaker 2: me your playoff predictions before. 1508 01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:47,120 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, well it's still four teams, right, yep, still 1509 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:51,280 Speaker 3: twelve yet. Yeah, so the two teams that don't play anybody. 1510 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,640 Speaker 3: So Michigan's going to be there, Georgia is going to 1511 01:29:54,680 --> 01:30:00,599 Speaker 3: be there. It's gonna be a second SEC team. I'm 1512 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:05,040 Speaker 3: gonna get cute and say that this year that second 1513 01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:08,120 Speaker 3: SEC team will be Alabama. I'm just kidding. I'm not 1514 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:16,960 Speaker 3: gonna get cute. Uh. And then let's throw USC in there. 1515 01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,040 Speaker 3: So USC, Alabama, Georgia, Michigan. 1516 01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:25,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's terrible. All right, what. 1517 01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,679 Speaker 3: Arrow is all those teams like ranked in the top 1518 01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:28,920 Speaker 3: five going into the season. 1519 01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:37,160 Speaker 2: Uh, pretty much. Give me Alabama, give me Ohio State, 1520 01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:51,760 Speaker 2: give me Oregon, and give me Notre Dame, because Notre 1521 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,479 Speaker 2: Dame is gonna take USC out and Oregon's gonna beat USC. 1522 01:30:55,800 --> 01:31:01,720 Speaker 2: So that's two lost its Sai yinara. Alabama's going to 1523 01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:05,559 Speaker 2: beat Georgia in the SEC championship, but beat them in 1524 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,479 Speaker 2: in a way that they're not going to be able 1525 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,200 Speaker 2: to get into the playoffs. And Ohio State's going to 1526 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:15,200 Speaker 2: beat Penn State and beat Michigan, and Penn State's gonna 1527 01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,639 Speaker 2: beat Michigan too. But then mich But then Penn State's 1528 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,519 Speaker 2: going to lose another game besides too, Ohio State. 1529 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,320 Speaker 3: All right, George Reister noted Kyle McCord, believer, we're putting 1530 01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,519 Speaker 3: it in now. I think they made the wrong decision 1531 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,120 Speaker 3: not starting Devin Brown. But that's because I am. 1532 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:34,840 Speaker 2: A what Arizona homer. Well, you guys, those are our 1533 01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,400 Speaker 2: picks before the season starts. Ralph, will you keep track 1534 01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:39,679 Speaker 2: of our playoff picks too? 1535 01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:41,960 Speaker 3: Ye? 1536 01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,760 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because I just want to be able to 1537 01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,559 Speaker 2: come back and be like yo, I called it all right. 1538 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,080 Speaker 3: Well now I'm definitely not gonna let you forget that 1539 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:51,240 Speaker 3: you put Ohio State in there. 1540 01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:55,479 Speaker 2: Yep, please, oh please please don't. All right, peace out, 1541 01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:56,759 Speaker 2: Catch you guys next week.