1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Let's Homer picked it up, gritty play and sniff flips 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: put it up and caught just Lee touchdown. What a start. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Wilson float said, there's Judy pass called Judy still going 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: down inside to and touchdown Jun for bunks from McManus, Mexican. 5 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: A lot of people were wondering if Geno Smith could 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: hold his own here against his Hall of Fame predecessor 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: coming back to town, and I say he did that 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: and more I would agree with that. A lot of 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: people were wondering, that's right, Joe Buck, but I wasn't, 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: and neither was my guest tonight, Stephen Ruiz, my my 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: co president, I would say in Geno Nation, over the years, 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: it's had it happened the Seattle Seahawks one seventeen sixteen 13 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football, in the return of Russell Wilson. 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 1: There is so much to get to in this game, 15 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: but Steven Uh for people that don't know a writer 16 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: at the Ringer does great stuff. We can get into 17 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: all that later, But most importantly has always believed, like me, 18 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: not just as a bit, but in his heart, that 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: Geno Smith was better than people gave him credit for. It. 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: Now is here he just won this actual game. It's 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: an actual thing that happened in the year. I don't 22 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: care if they go one in sixteen. They can never 23 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: take this night away from us. How are you feeling? Never? Never? 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: It was a long time coming, man, It was a 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: long time coming. There's been a lot of starts and 26 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: stops to the Geno Nation agenda. Did you ever think 27 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: this day would come? Because I kept thinking during the game, 28 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: and we will go through it all and really give 29 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: a real breakdown. And there's obviously more to talk about 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: than other than Gino Smith, but his performance, which was fantastic, 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: is certainly a big story. There were moments throughout the 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: game where I was just like, I kind of can't 33 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: believe this, because I didn't think he'd ever really get 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: a chance as a week one starter, much less as 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: a week one starter on the team, that he just 36 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, understudied for Russell Wilson in this moment, and 37 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: that the crowd would be chanting g No Gino like 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: throughout the game early often, and then to finish it 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: like I it just uh, I don't know. I was 40 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm speechless, but all I am doing is 41 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: honking too much. Uh, let's let's get into the game 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: of it all, Stephen Um. I think let's start at 43 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: the end and move our way backwards, because as amazing 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: as Gino was in the first half of this game, 45 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: in the in the Seahawks only had three possessions in 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: the second half. Uh, the story at the game at 47 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: the end of the game was obviously that last possession 48 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson and Nathaniel Hackett, And I do kind 49 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: of want to go over that first because that's that 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: was the most bizarre four minute drive to end the 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: game that I can remember, with Nathaniel Hackett and Russell 52 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Wilson both simultaneously sort of freezing up and then ending 53 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: up going for that. Yeah, that long mid six d 54 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: yard field goal for Brandon McManus, just casually, just asking 55 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: your kicker to break an NFL record, the second longest 56 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: kick in NFL history, just casually. You had plenty of time, 57 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: But like I felt like we spent so much time 58 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: during the offseason discussing whether, like Russell Wilson will work 59 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: in this offense and how he left Seattle, and I 60 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: feel like Nathaniel Hackett, being a first year coach and 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: a guy that's kind of it feels like he's out 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: of his depth already, and he hasn't had like a 63 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: great He hasn't had multiple years like as a good 64 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. He had the years with Green Bay. But 65 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: that was obviously Matt Lafleur was calling the plays. This 66 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: was as rough as a first game as you can 67 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: come up with. It was not even just the field goal, 68 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: going back to drive before that, the fourth down, I 69 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: think he was from the nine yard line. You have 70 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, you're paying him a quarter billion dollars. You 71 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: gotta go for it there. The field goal just cuts 72 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: the You had a one possession, you cut it another 73 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: one possession, and then you end up with the sixty 74 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: four yard field goal. Just a horror show for Nathaniel Hackett. Yeah, 75 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm like the worst podcast sos here. This 76 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: is why we have Dan hansis usually do it. He 77 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: sets up the game, he puts it all in order. 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: He would probably let the guests speak a little more 79 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: than like ten seconds in the first three minutes of 80 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: the show. But I'm just sort of losing my mind. 81 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: But to set the table, Russell Wilson and the Broncos 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: we're down. As you mentioned seventeen thirteen heading into the 83 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, there had been no scoring in the third 84 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: quarter at all. The Broncos had moved the ball incredibly well, 85 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: I would say throughout the night. They ended up with 86 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty three yards, which is a lot 87 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: when you only had seven reel possessions, eight reel possessions 88 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: in that game. That they were moving the ball well, 89 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: They're winning physically, and in the fourth quarter it felt 90 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: like they were getting anything they want, but they kept 91 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: getting stopped inside the ten yard line. And you mentioned 92 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: one of them, not where they lost the fumble, but 93 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: where they end up kicking that field goal. They get 94 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: a quick three and out from Gino was the first 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: three and out of the game by either side, and 96 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: then they get the ball back with four minutes and 97 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: two seconds left in all three time outs. And the 98 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: thought there is in a perfect world, we have all 99 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: the time in the world. We are kind of getting 100 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: what we want for the most part. We have crazy 101 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: mismatches on the outside. Are running game for the most 102 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: part has been great. Uh And Russell Wilson's effect of 103 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: getting the ball out quickly kind of in the flat 104 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: to his tight ends and and he should be able 105 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: to move the ball down the field slowly, try to 106 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: burn all the clock and go win the ball game 107 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: on a field goal. They've gotten into field goal range 108 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: literally every possession that they had the whole game. Let's 109 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: do that, And that was apparently what they were trying 110 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: to do early in the drive. They weren't taking um 111 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: any rush with the all, They're letting the play cock 112 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: go down. Seattle actually ends up using a time out 113 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: trying to challenge a call that didn't work, ends up 114 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: being a first down for Denver, and they're taking their time, 115 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: and I'm actually thinking this is really smart at some point, 116 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: like when did you realize that they actually had no 117 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: idea what they were doing. They were wasting their time 118 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: and they wouldn't even use those timeouts in the end. 119 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: It was that last snap like, and their pre snap 120 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: operation was bad all game like. It felt like Russell 121 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: Wilson was fighting the play clock all game long, and 122 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: I thought Russ was gonna call hYP there and all 123 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: of a sudden he calls time out and then the 124 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: kicking unit comes on, and then the funny thing is 125 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett starts to use his time outs after the 126 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks get the ball back with like six seconds left, 127 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: then he used the timeouts to stop the kneeling at 128 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: six seconds. Just I'm astounded. I'm astounded. You would think, 129 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: like when you when you become a head coach, that's 130 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: the first thing you kind of study and you locked down. 131 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: And then just to have that happen in the first game. 132 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna him off after one game, 133 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: but it's it's it's gotta be hard to have confidence 134 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: in him going forward to at least for this season. Right. 135 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: I put a little bit of it on Russell Wilson. 136 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: I guess it should be on the coach, but like 137 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: if if Tom Brady is running that team, like there's 138 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: no way any of that happens, Like, couldn't he have 139 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: overridden what was going on at some point to play 140 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: like a little faster so they get their last first 141 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: own of the game, uh with coming out of the 142 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: two minute warning, it was that nine yard pass to 143 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: Javonte Williams. He does not go out of bounds, and 144 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: again I think, like, Okay, that's that's bad situational football 145 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 1: by Broncos. He should go out of bounds. Then again, 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: like they actually shouldn't mind milking the clock a little bit. 147 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: There's still two minutes. I can almost here Tony Romo 148 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: in my head, Hey, you have plenty of time. You 149 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: got all three time outs. Don't be in a hurry. 150 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: That said, they don't take the next step till one 151 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: left on the clock. That snap goes totally bonkers. Cody 152 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: Barton makes a great play in the backfield. Again, it 153 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: seemed to be some sort of snap operation where it 154 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: was fusing at the last second. There was a problem 155 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson all night. Barton gets injured on the play, 156 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: so it ends up being a Seahawks time out. And 157 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: and after that there's incompletion a short pass uh An incompletion, 158 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: a short pass again to Javonte Williams who breaks a tackle, 159 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: and that was it. That was the end of the game. 160 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: There was then they kicked the field goal. At that 161 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: point it was fourth and five. Do you think there 162 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: was any thought of, like, we don't totally trust where 163 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: our offense is right now out of Russell Wilson to 164 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: get those five yards and we'd rather have Brandon McManis 165 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: kick it. I don't know. There's no reason to think 166 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: that though, like you said, they were moving the ball, 167 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: and especially the last couple of drives, it seemed like 168 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: Seattle had backed off. They're playing a lot of like 169 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: soft zone coverage and if you just wanted to dump 170 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: a pass off to Javonte Williams for like five yards, 171 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: they could have had it, and they had the timeout 172 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: to stop the clock. It was just a bizarre, bizarre 173 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: decision because when when Javonte Williams got tackled there there 174 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: was more than fifty seconds left in the game and 175 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: they had all three time outs, Like what what what 176 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: would even be the I guess if they don't pick 177 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: up the first time, but you're you're losing at that point, 178 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: you're under a minute left and you're losing the game, 179 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: it makes no sense whatsoever. Obviously, Yeah, it's it's it's 180 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: not good. And I know we've said that the offense 181 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: was really moving the ball, but that I think like 182 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: the things we feared about what this offense would become 183 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: with Russ is that, like every offense in Seattle became 184 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: the Russ offense, where you're just living out of struction 185 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: and you're throwing it deep. And I think we saw that. 186 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: And although they put up points and are they moved 187 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: the ball at least they didn't score, they didn't finish 188 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: hop drives. It never felt like they got in a 189 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: rhythm as an offense until the fourth quarter when they 190 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: started going up tempo and they started going hurry up. 191 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: Before that, I felt like there was there was a 192 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: lack of synergy between their under center stuff, which I 193 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: think they really leaned on early, and their shotguns stuff. 194 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: And for this offense to work, it's the Shanahan McVeigh 195 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: type of offense where everything is kind of interconnected and 196 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: you need to set up the play action passes with 197 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: the run game. And the run game was working, the 198 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: deep passing game was working when Russ was in the 199 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: gun and kind of doing stuff out of structure, but 200 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: the play action passing from under center Russ is a 201 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: dot tonight was three point two yards. It was all flats. 202 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: It was like all throws to the flat off play action, 203 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: a lot of boots. They didn't have that mid range game, 204 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: and that's always what drives this type of offense, Like 205 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: you think about like even the Jerk Goff days in 206 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, it was always those deep overs. Jimmy g 207 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: and San Francisco the same thing, uh, Aaron Rodgers in 208 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: Green Bay, but we didn't get that with Russ. So 209 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, you look at the stature, you see that 210 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Russ is average almost like ten yards per ten three 211 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: hundred four ends up with three hundred forty yards. Judy 212 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: goes over a hundred and Sutton goes over seventy two. 213 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: But you don't you don't think that it really was 214 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: a good feel. I'm with you, No, it's I think 215 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to sustain. There was no completions 216 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: over the middle, like over ten yards, ten to twenty yards, 217 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: and that's like an area of the field you really 218 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: have to attack, and this offense in particular, and they 219 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: just were unable to do it. And I think, I mean, 220 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: you have to go back and watch the film, but 221 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Aikman said that Jerry Judy was running 222 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: wide open over the middle on the play. I think 223 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: it was the last play before the field goal. When 224 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: he checked it down, they said said was running wide 225 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: open over the middle. That's where Russell kind of miss 226 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: his throws. He kind of motioned like how come the 227 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: ball didn't come my way. He ends up going to 228 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: Davante Williams who does break a tackle. It could have 229 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: been like fourth and ten, and it actually would have 230 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: saved Nathaniel Hackett uh from this nightmare, because I doubt 231 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: he would have lined up McManus for a sixty eight 232 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: yarder or a seventy yarder. They probably would have just 233 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: gone for the fourth and tent. But Russell didn't see that. 234 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: And that's why I don't want to be like too 235 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: critical on Russell Wilson when, like I said, they only 236 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: had eight possessions, they moved the ball that well. But 237 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: people smarter than me are watching this game, Shaun King 238 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: my my favorite two lane quarterback of all time, and 239 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: just saying like Russell is so off tonight. There were 240 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: those two throws into the end zone UM, one of 241 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: which should have been picked off by Quandri Digs. It 242 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: went through his hands where he throw inside on the 243 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: I think it was like a go route essentially, and 244 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: then he threw inside on another UM vertical route on 245 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: the outside that should have gone to the outside later. 246 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't say that Russell Wilson was so off 247 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: in this game, UM, but it almost felt like the 248 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: situation not to get inside the head of it like 249 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: everyone was amped up in this game, and and he 250 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: didn't seem to be seeing the field too well. Jamal 251 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: Adams also had as uh, you know, annual or almost 252 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: uh almost gamely every game that he has a ball 253 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: go off his helmet at some point early in the game. 254 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: Unfortunately he went down with an injury, and it just 255 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: felt like, Yeah, Russell Wilson's been in the league a 256 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: long time, but Russell Wilson and Nathaniel Hackett have not 257 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: been in the league a long time together. And especially 258 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: the two minute operation which you saw at the end 259 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson's usually good at and then just getting 260 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: the snap off and and having everything set before the 261 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: step was a nightmare. They had three delay of games 262 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: and the fumble on the goal line one of the 263 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: fumbles on the goal line I have to point out 264 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: because there was more than one inside the tent. It 265 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: was partly because Russell Wilson did not get the ball 266 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: snapped until the very last second, and it was another 267 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: frantic operation where the defensive lineman on that plane I 268 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: think it was Al Woods. I wish I knew off 269 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: the top of my head, you know, I could see 270 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: that it's going from one to zero and it's just 271 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: flying off the ball and the offensive line really wasn't 272 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: ready for it, and he ends up causing a fumble 273 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: on that place. So their operation just was very weak one, 274 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: which we've seen around the league. But what is a concern? Yeah, 275 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: and there was such like a big thing made about 276 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson really taking ownership of this offense. So I 277 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: do think like it's fair to criticize him for even 278 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: the last snap where they let the clock run down. 279 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take every opportunity to put it on 280 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson because that's yea, yeah, I'm trying to hype 281 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: up my machine. Now, Okay, let's let's get to the 282 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: good stuff here. I mean people people are listening to 283 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: this thinking like, I can't believe you just spend like 284 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: eight minutes or ten minutes talking about the end of 285 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: the game and Russell Wilson before Gino. I don't think 286 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: I've ever had uh my mentions be as active in 287 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: a single NFL game in my entire life. I I 288 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: don't know about you, Stephen, what about you? No? No, really, 289 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: it was every every second I was getting a notification 290 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: on my phone like what I was about us, so, 291 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: like in theory, it would be great. You know, I 292 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: would love it if if Mark and Dan were here 293 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: on this podcast too with me. We're trying something different 294 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: on Monday nights. We're gonna have a guest every week 295 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: and and they'll have their say on Tuesday too. I 296 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: know that they would be giving me grief right now, Stephen. 297 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: They'd be hating life. They were absolutely rooting for the 298 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: Broncos because they knew I'd be so insufferable, uh, for 299 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the week because of this. But this 300 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: is not the fair and balanced podcast. We're gonna bury 301 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and we're gonna praise Gino Smith. And he 302 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: gave us so much to praise that was it even better? 303 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: And I know they didn't score in the second half 304 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: in the final scores seventeen sixteen, But in terms of 305 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: Geno's performance, what was it even a little better than 306 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: you there dreams Stephen Ruis. Oh yeah, I was telling people, 307 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be unbearable when he goes seventeen for thirty 308 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: one for like two hundred yards in one touchdown. But 309 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: he did much better than that. He did much better 310 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: than that, and two nice no turnovers are no yeah, 311 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: no picks. I know he made that one throw, the 312 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: crossfield throw, but that was a dime. Just I didn't 313 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: expect him to be that good, and I think he 314 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: he made some plays that were unsustainable. He's not gonna 315 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: be able to like move up in the pocket and 316 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: throw those little floaters over his own coverage that he 317 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: did like it felt like he did like four times 318 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: in the first half. But this Gino Nation thing started 319 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: with one idea, okay, and the idea was that Gino 320 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: Tino can play. That's all we were arguing. No one. 321 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: We weren't saying he was a top twenty quarterback. We 322 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: weren't saying the Jets should build around him. All we 323 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: were saying was the guy can play. Although you do 324 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback rankings at the Ringer, people should check that 325 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: out along with our our great Quarterback Index by by Mark. 326 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: I think that they're great companion pieces. You had Gino 327 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: pretty high, you had him above two. I remember how 328 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: high was he going in to the season. I mean 329 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: that would definitely if I was still doing QB and X. 330 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have had the stones 331 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: uh to put him there. But the thought is, and 332 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: I think Dan thinks this is a bit and to 333 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: the point that I've held to carry this torch forever, 334 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: I guess it sort of is. But I always thought 335 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: he showed early in his New York career enough that 336 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: he was like a professional quarterback and and that he 337 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: he literally never got the chance to and because it 338 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: was New York, but he became a punchline. And people 339 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: have this idea that like Gino went through this like 340 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: horrible uh string of games where he struggled. No, he 341 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: he finished off season, Well that's the that's the four 342 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: game stretch. They make fun of me on the show. 343 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: And he's had like a handful of starts the rest 344 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: of his career, literally five more over the last seven years. 345 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: He never got the second chance after the I I 346 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: K and Polly punch And that's what he's been working 347 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: on all over these years. And I think tonight actually 348 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: gave some hope that like he's look, he's improved. He's 349 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: a thirty two year old quarterback. Now he could be better. 350 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: And I agree with you. The way he moved up 351 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: in the pocket was really good. And when he's impressing 352 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, Stephen with his command at the line of 353 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: scrimmage and all the changes that he's making and the 354 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: checks and how he's setting the offensive line. Like if 355 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: he's impressing Troy, It's like Sam Darnald's not impressing Troy 356 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: out there. Troy's burying Sam Darnald. He's not burying Gino. No, 357 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: he's not. And you can't like this. This is all 358 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: over Gino's film too. I'm telling you, man, I've been 359 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: banging the drum all over preseason film. He was he 360 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: was calling out protections, he was changing the plays. It 361 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: was something that Drew Lock wasn't doing. It was very 362 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: clear who was gonna win this battle. I know, like 363 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: the media in Seattle was making the thing about it 364 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: because you got to you gotta get attention on the 365 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: QB battle. But it was clear all all summer who 366 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: was out in front and what Pete Carroll valued. And 367 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 1: we saw today he was like the perfect quarterback for 368 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. And I think the one thing that people 369 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: get wrong about Gino is they don't realize like how 370 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: tough he is in the pocket, Like that's his main 371 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: thing is like he's a pocket passer. And I don't 372 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: think people give him credit. He's like the air raid 373 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: quarterback he was. He was thrown for like five yards 374 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: every game at West Virginia. But this dude can run 375 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: a pro style offense, and honestly, he could run an offense. 376 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: Run the offense of this the Seahawks want to run 377 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: a lot better than Russell Wilson can do. Speak on that. 378 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Why do you think that? Because when I was watching 379 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: it tonight, I definitely thought this is what Pete Carroll 380 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: wants to do. Now, I don't think he got the 381 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: running game going nearly as much. I'm kind of shocked 382 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: that Gino threw the ball twenty two times or eight times, 383 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: and uh, they only ran at thirteen times if you 384 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: don't count Gino's scrambles. They obviously didn't have that many 385 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: plays in general. It's just one of those types of games. 386 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: But they kind of went past heavy for the most 387 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: part early, or at least balanced Like it was almost 388 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: him being like, as Troy said during the game, May, Yeah, 389 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna let you know, cook a little bit, 390 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: so yeah, we can win that way. Russ. I mean, 391 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna sound crazy to say, and it's it's only 392 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: sickos like us to think about the game like this 393 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: and think about Gino Smith like this. But I obviously, 394 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: obviously Russell Wilson is a far better quarterback than Gino 395 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: Smith and it's not even close. But the thing about 396 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is he needs this particular style of offense. 397 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: And we we don't like to talk about his height 398 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: being a factor, but it matters. Like, like we've covered, 399 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't see the field over the middle. It's tough 400 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: for him because he's like five ten. Offensive linemen are huge. 401 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: It's tough to see over the middle of the field. 402 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: And another thing he doesn't like to do is play 403 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: from under center. And when you run this like outside zone, 404 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: the Shanahan McVay stuff, you have to run that from 405 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: under center because that's like just the timing of the runs. 406 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: The outside zone play is hard to run from the gun. So, 407 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, there's this lack of synergy between 408 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: what Russ wants to do in the past game, what 409 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett wants to do in the run game, what 410 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: Shane Waldron wanted to do in the run game last year. 411 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: And if you listen to like Seattle players, they were 412 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: talking about like Rashott Penny during the offseason was like, 413 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I really like running from under center, and 414 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: we're doing it a lot more now. He didn't say 415 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: because Russell Wilson is gone, but that that's the My 416 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: part is that it's because Russell Wilson is gone. So 417 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: I think while they'll they're losing a lot of talent 418 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, the gap is kind of smaller 419 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: because they can run the scheme they actually want to run. 420 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: So You're making so many amazing points and every once 421 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: in a while, I'm just like laughing, and it's not 422 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: because you said anything funny. It's because I'm just like 423 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: basking in this moment that this is the most indulgent 424 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: podcast I will ever do. NFL Media, we've been doing. 425 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: This is our tenth season, and it's all been leading 426 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: to this. This could be like kind of the the top, 427 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: and it's almost a sign that we've gone over the rubicon. 428 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: Like we're gonna spend twenty minutes on Gino tonight because 429 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: this was the Geno Super Bowl. I don't I really 430 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: don't care what happens the rest of the season. Of 431 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: course I care. I wanted to go well, I've said 432 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: all along. I think this is a nine and eight 433 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: type of Seahawks season that Pete Carroll like enjoys more 434 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: than virtually any season he's ever coached. And I can 435 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: still see that all happening. But to win tonight and 436 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: to have the m v P m v P chance 437 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: of Gino at one point, which was just hilarious, uh, 438 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: and to hear everything you're saying, which to me makes 439 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Uh. And I think it's absolutely true. 440 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: I think Pete Carroll at a certain point just wanted 441 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: someone that would do what he said, and like they 442 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: maybe that's not how the boss should feel. I was 443 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: kind of on the hook hook saying, like, did ownership 444 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: should absolutely choose Russell Wilson over Pete Carroll, But it 445 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: became a choice at some point. They clearly um didn't 446 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: get along ultimately or didn't agree on how this organization 447 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: should be run. And I did find it interesting. James Palmer, 448 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: our NFL network reporter at the scene, said, you know, 449 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: Gino and Russell, great conversation. They've always gotten along really well. Um, 450 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: Russell's tapping up everyone before the game, He's talking to everyone, 451 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: He's on the field forever. Pete Carroll's out there and 452 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Russell says hi to just about everyone. And those two 453 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: men are like twenty ft apart for much of the 454 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: pre game, and they didn't say a word. They didn't 455 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: say a word. That's a real he. Everyone tried to 456 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: make the Belichick Brady he this is the real he. 457 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: And it ends this way. I think with Pete Carroll 458 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: winning the type of ugly, weird game that they shouldn't win, 459 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 1: and yet it is the type of game that they 460 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: have won a lot of times with Russell Wilson. Gino, though, 461 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: did um come through on third and longs? I thought 462 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: that was like a really key part of the game. 463 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: He went six and ten on third downs overall, and 464 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: they were averaging I think eight yards on those third downs, 465 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: and to go six and ten when you're averaging, you know, 466 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: eight yards to go is really good. And he was 467 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: making good decisions and you said it he was feeling 468 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: himself when he threw that cross body pass. That's when 469 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: I knew it was just like Gino was having an 470 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: odd of body experience. And then they called me like 471 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback sweep on Gino design run game, Gino Lamar 472 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: Jackson a little he could do it all. He could 473 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: do it all. He was he was running a little 474 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: too much. He he ran actually the play before that 475 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: as well, on a scramble and he didn't get down 476 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: and took a big hit. And I was just like 477 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: Gito was a little faster, and you think, but he's 478 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: not a good runner, you know. He's like Daniel Jones 479 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: is really fast and not a good runner. Gino is 480 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: not fast and not particularly a good runner. He's right, 481 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: but he's still like Jami's He's still like a little 482 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: faster than you think. He picked up some keyyards with 483 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: his legs, but he was getting a little too full 484 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: of himself. Maybe maybe he was just letting the emotion 485 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: overtake him. I mean he was doing the fist pumps 486 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: on the sideline. He was dancing early in the game. 487 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: And then after the game, Gino with just the most 488 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: beautiful quote, uh to the sideline reporter on Monday Night Football. 489 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: They wrote me off, I right back, that's the problem, 490 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: al right back, let's go. I don't even know what 491 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: that means, but I like it. And we didn't write 492 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: you off, Gino. Don't you forget that? No? Does he 493 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: follow you on Twitter? Stephen not to get like too 494 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: weird about this, but no, but he's liked a couple 495 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: of my tweets. Okay, because yeah, same, And at some 496 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: point he he did follow me in the last year 497 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: or two when I I don't know so I had 498 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: said something or written something incredibly you know, generous to him, 499 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: and at that moment he followed me. It was a 500 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: big moment. He he hears what's going out here. I 501 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: wish they could just uh, I wish someone could just 502 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: send him this podcast and he could listen to it on, 503 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, on on his drive into work. This week. 504 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: I had I had a banger that he ended up 505 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 1: retweeting and then he deleted the retweet. But I like 506 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: it was right after Jimmy G had signed his deal 507 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: in San Francisco that made him like the highest paid 508 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: player ever. And I compared, like Jimmy G's last seven 509 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: starts are his only seven starts forty niners to Geno's 510 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: last five, and was better. He was way better statistically. Yeah, dude, 511 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I actually think the defense for the 512 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: Seahawks was more concerning than I expected in this game, 513 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: which sounds strange, but they lost Jamal Adams and This 514 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: is part of the reason why the Broncos should have 515 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: won this game. The Broncos were getting pretty good push 516 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: in the running game. They end up with nineteen carries, 517 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 1: uh for o were five yards per carry. I mean, 518 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 1: when you're running for six seven eight yards in the first, second, 519 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: third quarter like you expect, that's a huge advantage for you. 520 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: It should set up the passing game. Uh. And then 521 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: the Seahawks lose Jamal Adams during the game. Uh. Who 522 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: else did they lose? Their Trek Woollen I believe went 523 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: out during the game. Who's starting at quarterback? They benched 524 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: their other rookie cornerback, Kobe Bryant. I mean the Seahawks 525 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: are playing two mid to late round rookies and then 526 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: replacing them with like journeyman like Sydney Jones. Uh. Cody 527 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: Barton got hurt at the at the very end. But like, 528 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: this is a defense that wasn't getting nearly as much 529 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: pushed as I guess I expected up front. And that's 530 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: part of the reason why I'm being a little hard 531 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson is most of those yards that he 532 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: got were after he had a lot of time in 533 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: the pocket. He was protected better and I think that's 534 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: a good sign for the Broncos ultimately than he was 535 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: for most of his his Seahawks career. Yeah, that stood out. 536 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: It's the Seahawks pass protection stood out. But I agree 537 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: with you with the defense. The young secondaries really concerning 538 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: because they brought in a lot of new assistant coaches. 539 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: They're trying to change the philosophy. Pete Carroll's known for 540 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: his cover three defense. They brought in shawna Say, they 541 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: brought in Carl Scott. These are guys that run these 542 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: more modern defensive coverages, and part of it is that 543 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: they like to the You need communication because they're they're 544 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: matching up, they're passing off routes, and when you have 545 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: a young secondary, that's gonna be hard. And you saw 546 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: it today. There was like a lot of air in 547 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: the coverage. There's a lot of open receivers over the 548 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: middle of the field. And then you add in the runs, 549 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: the running game. If you can't stop the Nathaniel Hackett 550 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: version of this offense, and you're going up against the 551 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan version with Trey Lance and all right, let's 552 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: not let's not break it down. Let's just enjoy this moment. 553 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: You know that's true. That's this. Um, this was special. 554 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, we've been talking about Gina 555 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: Smith for for a long time on this show, and um, 556 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: I was so confident Stephen on this show that this 557 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: reference will have no meaning to you whatsoever. But leading 558 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: into this weekend, I actually broke out something I only 559 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: do it in a rare case. Let's let's play it here, Graver, 560 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: that's right, the Rainmaker came through. I I was just 561 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: taking Seattle plus six and a half. But I did 562 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: predict in eighteen to seventeen Seahawks victory. So you got 563 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: them straight up, you got him covering, and then some 564 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: like it all happened. It all happened on Monday night. 565 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: Never doubt, never doubt this. We had confidence in our 566 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: guy and he came through. I feel like I had 567 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: one more like important thing I wanted to get to it. 568 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: I'm just blanking on it right now. How about the 569 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: Seahawks defense holding the Broncos at the one yard line 570 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: on two different possessions and then another goal line stand 571 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: to force a field goal. You talk about the Seahawks 572 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: defense not playing too well, but those were huge stops. 573 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: That's absolutely fair. I mean they're see the Seahawks defense 574 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: over the year has always been ben don't break. They've 575 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: always been great at situational football. They've always been making 576 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: big plays in the key moment that you do wonder 577 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 1: when you look through this defense, like which guys are 578 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna be able to step up? Do they have enough playmakers? 579 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks Maybe not that he had a great game. 580 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: Nuoso had a couple of moments in this game when 581 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: when he came in on some stunts. Uh, you're absolutely right, Graver. 582 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: They made they made some big plays in the big moments. Yeah, 583 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: I think they're like a year away from being good. 584 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: Like willen Is, I think he's very talented, and he 585 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 1: still has some some rough parts of his game, But 586 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: like in a year or two, I think they're gonna 587 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: be good, especially when they get this new philosophy really 588 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: installed and the young guys grow up. And I will 589 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: say this, going up against Russell Wilson, it just makes 590 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: for a weird game. So maybe maybe I'm too quick 591 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: to write off the Seattle Dave. This this was a 592 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: Week one game like this. It was crazy how loud 593 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: the booze were. Were you a little surprised about the 594 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: aggressiveness of this Seahawks crowd, like hating on Russell Wilson. 595 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: Uh No, because I think I think things had a 596 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: little strange over the off season, like back in March 597 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: or whenever the trade happened. I would not have expected 598 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: those booze but like over the last couple of months, 599 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: there's there's been all these like stories and expose's that 600 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: have come out, so I think it makes a little 601 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: more sense. I think there's like a little bit of 602 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: bitterness from Seattle fan fans, now, mm hmm. All right, 603 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: So every Monday night on this recap, thank you everyone 604 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: for joining us. Thank you to the viewers who stayed 605 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: up with me on Channel five in the UK, which 606 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: is a new uh a gig. I got to enjoy 607 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: this game live on that coverage, And thank you too 608 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: to everyone listening. In the plan for these Monday night shows, 609 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: Stephen is, We're gonna go through the Monday night game 610 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to spend this much time on 611 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 1: the Monday night game every week, but it was just 612 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: too much not to. And then we would fire through 613 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: a couple of little thoughts or some takeaways from our 614 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Monday film watching Now. We went so long here on Gino. 615 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do like a speed round with you because 616 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: you you are truly one of the best football nds 617 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: out there. Like we're having fun here with Gino Smith, 618 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: but people should check out all of Stephen ruiz Is 619 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: coverage over at The Ringer and everything he's doing on 620 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: the ring or podcast and everything. I'm just wondering why 621 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: why you were breaking down some tape on Monday Sunday night. 622 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: You seem like a Sunday night type of guy. Even 623 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: uh you're on the East Coast. You're staying up late 624 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: with us, aren't you. Yeah. I didn't go to sleep 625 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: last night. First Monday of the season I had. I 626 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: did write down the morning. Yeah, I mean we're sting. 627 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: No point you're off with us now I'm going God, 628 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: you know I love the energy and I apologize for 629 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: making you work extra. Just give me give me two 630 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: quick things that that stuck out from you on your 631 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: film watching today. Bengal's offense was the most interesting thing 632 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: to me, and it's people are gonna talk about the 633 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: seven sacks, but that's not what I'm interested in. The 634 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: thing that really surprised me and stood out is the 635 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: lack of perimeter deep throws that Joe Burrow made, Like 636 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers were able to take that away. And I 637 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: think the Bengals are going to see a different type 638 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 1: of coverage, a different type of coverage this year. They 639 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: saw a lot of like cover one, a lot of 640 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: like one on one matchups on the outside, a lot 641 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: of man coverage. Teams have learned their lesson over the 642 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: off season, and Joe Burrow talked about it during the 643 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: off season. He said, like, we're gonna have to sustain 644 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: drives more. You can't rely on explosive plays. And the 645 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: Steelers really forced Joe Burrow to to take those mid 646 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: range buckets and he was unable to make them, and 647 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: like he threw into coverage a lot and the interceptions happened. 648 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: But I think Joe Burrow is gonna be better going forward. 649 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: I think the offensive line was actually better than the 650 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: stats make it look, but that's going to be a 651 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: subplot to watch over the first month of the season. 652 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: We could have a little like Chiefs Bills situation from 653 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: last year where they were having a lot of trouble 654 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: getting those downfield throws. I think the Bengals are this 655 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: year's version of that. That's a tasty nugget, and that 656 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: makes sense. I think that Mike Tomlin is like a 657 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: bad coach for a division opponent to face in Week one. 658 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking about that too, as the Patriots are 659 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: playing the Dolphins. I was just thinking how Brian Flores 660 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: is the worst coach for them to play, and not 661 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: Brian Flores, rather Josh Boyer is now the defensive coordinator there, 662 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: and now Brian Flores is gonna be helping the defense 663 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: they play next week in Pittsburgh. But I was thinking 664 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: Josh Boyer and the Dolphins were the worst defense for 665 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: them to play because they knew exactly what to do, uh, 666 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: in terms of heating up Mac Jones with all these 667 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: blitz is in Week one. Not that other places couldn't 668 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: have figured that out, but when you see it week 669 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: one and you see how it works so well, it's like, Okay, 670 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna copy that. Everyone's gonna see what they did 671 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: and try to replicate that. And I think in the 672 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: same way, Mike Tomlin and Brian Flores UH would be 673 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: among the two defensive minds in Pittsburgh that I would 674 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: not want to face in Week one because right off 675 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: the bat, I think you're gonna see some dangerous stuff. Uh. 676 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: One one thing I saw watching on tape today And 677 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: we'll leave it with this because because let's face it, 678 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: this is all just like an afterthought to Gino. Um 679 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: was was how different the Saints looked entirely like all 680 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: of their strengths are looked like we weaknesses suddenly, and 681 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: all their weaknesses now look like strengths like that used 682 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: to be able to really have faith in this offensive line. 683 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know, like they got some serious problems 684 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: there with James Hurst that left tackle and just the 685 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: lack of synchronicity. Uh. And their run defense has been 686 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: so good year after year and they really got run 687 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: over and their defensive tackle situation looks bad. Then again, Um, 688 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: they're great at wide receiver right now. And if they 689 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: get in a situation where they trail and if they 690 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: can sort of figure out the balance of letting Jamis 691 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: be Jamis and being shotgun a little more and throw 692 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: the ball down the field like suddenly, that could be 693 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: a very dangerous part of their team. So they just 694 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: look like maybe it's just weak one, but they just 695 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: look like such a different team than they've been the 696 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: last couple of years. I'm gonna give them a bit 697 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: of a pass because of that Week one weirdness. Thing 698 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: Like the Falcons I think are one of the most 699 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: unique schematic teams in the league. This year, they were 700 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: basically running like a college offense with Mariota and it 701 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: was it was a lot of option runs and that's 702 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: what the Saints were having trouble with and They're not 703 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: going to see that going forward. So I'll wait. On 704 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: the defense. I still think they have good pieces on 705 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: the defensive line. And then on the other side of 706 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: the ball, going up against Dean Peace, who's like the 707 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: most creative pressure designer in the league, he was given 708 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 1: them them fits. So I'll all to be worried about. 709 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: The Falcons are like like play an app state early 710 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: in the college football season, or it's some like under 711 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: It's like an underfunded, under talented team with like a 712 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: crazy and innovative coaching staff, except there an NFL team, 713 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: so that that really what you want. But I do 714 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: think they're coaching staff is kind of ahead of where 715 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: their personnel talent is. Um nothing's getting ahead of tonight though. 716 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: This is it. Stephen we enjoyed. I enjoyed it. I 717 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: enjoyed having you on. Like they can't. They can't take 718 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: this away from us, like they said it was a bit. 719 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: They they never believed that. Let's hear it from Gino again, Graver. 720 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: I mean, what what is it? They said it? They 721 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: wrote me off, right back, that's the problem. Right back, 722 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: let's go. They wrote us off. We ain't writing back, 723 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: Stephen Ruise, we ain't writing back. That's a lie. I'm 724 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: gonna write back all night long. I'm gonna be replying 725 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: to tweets all night long. I'm not going to sleep. 726 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: Thanks Steven again. Check um out at the podcast at 727 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: the Ringer uh and all of us coverage there for 728 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: Stephen Ruise. I'm Greg Rosenthal. We will be back on 729 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: Tuesday with Colleen Wolfe's coming up soon, So then heat 730 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: the call.