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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Rewind with Karen and Georgia. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Every Wednesday we recap our old shows with all new

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Speaker 2: commentary and updates and insights.

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Speaker 1: Today we're recapping episode sixty eight, which we named q

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Speaker 1: nt NA Hot.

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Speaker 2: This episode is a little different. Instead of telling each

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Speaker 2: other about a case, we answer listener question.

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Speaker 1: What a great idea? What a great way to not

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Speaker 1: have to do homework? Yes, I mean Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: I feel relieved in the future listening back to like

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Speaker 2: we were taking care of ourselves.

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Speaker 1: This episode came out May eleventh, twent The Little Baby

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Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen, which just happens to also be Karen's birthday.

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Speaker 2: Oh that little baby. So okay, let's listen to the

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Speaker 2: intro of episode sixty eight.

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Speaker 1: Birthday, Birthday, Birthday week Smith Birthday. It's a birthday month.

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Speaker 2: I love that we're traveling on my birthday.

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Speaker 1: I know that's the that's the what we give up

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Speaker 1: for this podcast. What if I get the whole plane

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Speaker 1: to sing happy birthday to you, I will ache.

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Speaker 2: With this podcast. He never talked to you again. You

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Speaker 2: know that's my sensitivity.

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Speaker 1: I cannot in a restaurant have anyone seeing it. Happy birthday?

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Speaker 1: Right no wow, okay, okay, okay, I didn't think so,

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Speaker 1: but I couldn't remember if it was like funny or

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Speaker 1: horrifying for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, a plane would be bad because then you just

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Speaker 2: have to sit there, like a restaurant when what'd you say?

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Speaker 1: I think it would be the best because the unexpected.

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Speaker 2: Well as people hate your guts. It's like in a

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Speaker 2: restaurant you can join in or note in a plane

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Speaker 2: then you're you're just trapped with fake fun.

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Speaker 1: But like remember when.

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Speaker 2: We were at that restaurant in Portland, the Turkey restaurant,

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Speaker 2: and oh yeah, and someone's saying happy birthday, and it

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Speaker 2: was so fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I always sing along to sing along. Always

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Speaker 1: it's always like not I mean like people, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's the most fun. It is like you're so happy

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Speaker 1: for them. Yes they have friends or a loved one.

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Speaker 2: That they're celebrating, that this is a good thing. We're

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Speaker 2: all in some way glad you're here.

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Speaker 1: Or then it's just like a couple on a first date.

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Speaker 1: You're like one of them make it up to seem fun,

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Speaker 1: but it's their birthday and tell them or like is.

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Speaker 2: They are they that pathetic? That they have to make

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Speaker 2: up birthdays to be fun.

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Speaker 1: Or is it a girlfriend who just got dumped in

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Speaker 1: her friends with her and she's like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you just serve a candle. I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: make you laugh.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you free hot fudge. That's how much

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Speaker 2: I love you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is my favorite murder. We started.

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Speaker 2: We are the true crime podcast that asks the question,

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Speaker 2: what if we talk about that there's stuff and also

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Speaker 2: that's the question, just pronounce things in a weird way.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like I'm.

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Speaker 1: That's her tagline, hobo, I said it. This is the

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Speaker 1: first This is the first podcast episode. Slash transmission from

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Nook of my new apartment. It's a loft.

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Speaker 1: There's wrestling memorbilia everywhere because we watch wrestling. Name this place,

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Speaker 1: we watch murder. That's this is what we watch. The

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Speaker 1: loft is called yeah, that's awesome. They record here, they

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Speaker 1: get they get one wall of murder, memory of podcasting, Nope,

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Speaker 1: where am I wrestling? Wrestling memorabilia? And we get one

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Speaker 1: and a half, very filled out, very full of gifts

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Speaker 1: murdery no gifts to us, yes, one of which we

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Speaker 1: just got and I'm so in love with it's he's

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Speaker 1: like plush pillows, one for each of us. This squirrel

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Speaker 1: got custom made fabric of squirrels and bunnies and foresty

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Speaker 1: stuff and it's adorable. But there's also murder scenes and

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Speaker 1: it's cartoon murder scenes and skulls and bones and like

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Speaker 1: buried bodies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then strips of material. Let's say stay out

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Speaker 2: of the forest.

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Speaker 1: It looks like, you know, police do not cross line,

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Speaker 1: but it says stay out of the forest. And they're amazing.

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Speaker 1: Let's get her very cute shout out. It's called Uh.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Mariah and it's Etsy dot Com and

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Speaker 1: her name is cou kalamaka Cocalamakla. That's that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you're right, I'm just thrown it out there.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Huh.

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Speaker 1: It's k O O k A l A m A

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Speaker 1: incredible and they're like they're like legit.

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Speaker 2: Well, and also they're on this for all the other

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Speaker 2: people who've given us lovely gifts, just know they're here.

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Speaker 2: They're all They're all around us right now. Somebody tweeted

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Speaker 2: at me the other way the other day. Did your

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Speaker 2: lava ball necklace make it back from the Fox Theater,

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Speaker 2: which is like first the first leg of the tour

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Speaker 2: way long ago, and I would like to report to

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Speaker 2: that person, Yes, of course it did. It's not it's

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Speaker 2: not in this loft. It's somewhere in my kitchen. But

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Speaker 2: we all the stuff people give us, we ship back

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Speaker 2: and then we like sit in it.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be one. It's all up and I finally

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Speaker 1: be a fucking hoarder's nightmare of murder.

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Speaker 2: So good, So thanks for those thank you lovely gifts.

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Speaker 2: Oh so now we have to talk about Casting Jambinet,

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Speaker 2: because you guys were like I thought you were gonna yeah.

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Speaker 2: So here's what I'll just do the quick version of

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Speaker 2: the what happened. We decide what we're going to do

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Speaker 2: is do our first ever live watching podcast recording where

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Speaker 2: together George and I watch Casting Jambinet and comment on

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Speaker 2: it as it goes and basically have that kind of

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Speaker 1: Turns out no, I.

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Speaker 2: Would say, we got well, it turned out that casting

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Speaker 2: Jombinet was not the thing we thought it was. It

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Speaker 2: was a different thing. I would personally say it was

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Speaker 2: a study on the strange personalities and behavior of actors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's close. There was a lot of.

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Speaker 2: The desperation of the of show business. There were a

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Speaker 1: Maybe this will finally be the thing that catapults me,

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Speaker 1: much like my favorite murder wasn't when we started it, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's their opinions seemed super made up. And as we

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Speaker 2: all know, no one likes to look in the mirror.

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Speaker 1: So I was sitting.

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Speaker 2: There going, lady, shut your mouth, you don't know anything

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Speaker 2: it was not I think we got fifteen twenty minutes

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Speaker 2: in and we just like looked at Stephen, We're like,

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Speaker 2: turn it off. This is not because I couldn't. It

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Speaker 2: Lots of the things that were happening were visual yeah,

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Speaker 2: or feel like just bad vibes, and we were basically

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Speaker 2: sitting there kind of shitting on normal people who were

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Speaker 1: I think in the beginning, when we didn't realize what

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Speaker 1: What do we do for this week's episode? Because this

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Speaker 1: isn't fucking it? And so we put up a live

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Speaker 2: Built in a security system so that we can take

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Speaker 2: artistic chances, but that was not one we should have ever.

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Speaker 1: This week is one we're going to take and I

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Speaker 2: This is a good one. Stephen, was this your idea

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Speaker 2: Q and A episode? Yes? I think it was all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, no, no, it is such a brat.

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Speaker 1: I hated it. Look on your face when I just

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Speaker 1: looked over you right now. You were just like, I

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Speaker 1: hate my It was like, I hate myself? Why do

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Speaker 1: I just let everyone have it? You can.

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Speaker 2: Ye, you don't think I do that all day long?

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Speaker 1: That's all anyway.

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Speaker 2: If you think of good ideas, you want.

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Speaker 1: Credit for fucking know it all? Sorry, thank you.

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Speaker 2: To Stephen's cheeks are all red and now you feels

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Speaker 2: a deep shame for something, and I like stole it?

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Speaker 1: No I Stephen, No, you're good, Thank you, Stephen.

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Speaker 2: What I was just gonna say, did you have something

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. You have to So if you want

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Speaker 2: You're such a marketer, you're such a like, how do

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna know it all and I'm a fucking marketer.

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Speaker 2: pick one. I mean, there's all these lanes we can be.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, know it All's it's because we

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Speaker 1: You know why. It's because we actually know it all everything.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if there's anything this podcast has proven is

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Speaker 2: Someone tweeted and said, please make sure people understand that

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Speaker 2: it is important to give like resuscitation, and like it

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Speaker 2: people they don't have to give yeah, artificial artificial respiration

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Speaker 2: You can pull the thing off the wall. There's a

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Speaker 2: woman like, please know that's not true at all.

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Speaker 1: There's a blowhorn on the wall. And if you just

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Speaker 1: have to know CPR anymore. No, congratulations, yeah, okay, So

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Speaker 1: but something came out of this Jambinet episode.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, because we did take the time at

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Speaker 2: the beginning to reveal each other's tramp stamps to each other.

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Speaker 1: Which is promise. Yeah, thank god, care I remember that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, so we're actually gonna play that was real time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to play that bad t end.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to recreate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're gonna play you our reveal that we

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Speaker 1: promised you of our tramp stamps.

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Speaker 2: and under what conditions you got your tramp stamp?

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Speaker 1: It's such a nineteen year old Georgian move. So good.

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Speaker 1: I'm so much better than him now, I'm one. And

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: They're all so they're so adjustable. There's tattoos. There's nothing

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Speaker 1: My correction is to bring awareness that the LAPD and

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Speaker 1: Both are two enormous departments within the County of Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: LAPD was not involved whatsoever. Thank you, Steven for taking

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Speaker 1: and don't think that incorrect information, especially in such a

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Speaker 1: He didn't write that, or she didn't write that. I

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Speaker 1: one purpose. So interesting. If I can ever be of

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Speaker 1: I love all that you do. Shiloh. Wow, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for that email. I mean, listen, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what's embarrassing to me about that email is I have,

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Speaker 1: Such The comedy writer, No, why would you know that.

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Speaker 1: That was a perfect email of telling us why we

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Speaker 2: And also information that we do really need to know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so happy to get those. In the same

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Speaker 1: you say sex worker, we have just completely tried never

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Speaker 2: Don't you feel like there's nothing better? There's nothing more

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Speaker 1: They're not synonymous. And do I use that word, And

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Speaker 1: it's because we know everything, Yes, even until we learn

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Speaker 2: But then yeah, but then we still know it. And

439
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 2: time is a flat circle.

440
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 1: So last week when we played our live episode from Indianapolis,

441
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: is that right? And Karen's fucking fabulous murder? What was

442
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 1: her name? Bell Gunnis? Bell Gunnis had a fucking thing

443
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 1: in the newspaper asking for her husband that she was

444
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 1: going to murder. And it said at the end triflers

445
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 1: need not apply. And we said to you guys at

446
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 1: this show, that's our next shirt. And guess what it is. Yep,

447
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 1: let's do birthday corner. Oh, go to my favorite murder

448
00:20:54,080 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 1: shirts dot com. I'm all over the place. I love it. Karen, Yes,

449
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 1: when this comes out, it will be my booth, God willing.

450
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: When this comes out.

451
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: I could be dead soon.

452
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: That's true. Well, I was thinking more that the entire

453
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: world will implode and there won't be some two days

454
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: no grid, off the grid, the grid will be down.

455
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 2: That's going to take at least four more months, I'd.

456
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: Say four days. So when this comes out on Thursday,

457
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 1: we have let's wait two days, two days days. Yeah, Friday,

458
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 1: we're fucked. But on Thursday, happy birthday. Thank you kindly,

459
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you. We're going to be on tour.

460
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 2: Yep, it's a dream birthday. I get to be in

461
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: a hotel room, which I loved. I get to go

462
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 2: do shows for our fans, which is the most fun,

463
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 2: the biggest, like ego boost, the most, the best way

464
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 2: to make a living.

465
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you're being sarcastic about the hotel room.

466
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 2: No, I could live in hotel room. Yeah, there's nothing

467
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: I love more.

468
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna get like real dark and

469
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: deep of like I'm going to be alone. No, you're

470
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: happy having to be alone. I was like, Vincent, I

471
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: will take you to dinner. I was like, how much

472
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 1: you want to be with a couple. That's like, no,

473
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: you just make up the whole time. Anyway, you guys,

474
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: what TV shows do you like? I had a show

475
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: on your birthday that would be so fun.

476
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: Just travel the best part about touring.

477
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: Can I bring you a Donnu on stage on Friday

478
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,959
Speaker 1: at the DC show whichever one's first? Or do you

479
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: not want a whole audience sing happy birthday to you?

480
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 1: You probably do?

481
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: Oh? I absolutely demand it.

482
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: Okay, great, Stephen, what were you gonna say happy birthday?

483
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

484
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 3: Just happy birthday, Steve.

485
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: Thank you, Steven.

486
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm pretty excited. I mean, at my age, you stop

487
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 2: caring about birthdays. And I know that people say that

488
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: it's a real mom thing to say while you threw

489
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: a dish owl over your shoulder, but you really just

490
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 2: you know, I.

491
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: Think at twenty three, you stop caring about birthdays unless

492
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: you're really just unless you're really looking for something. Yeah, Okay,

493
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 1: we're back. We are back. Any changes in the way

494
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: you feel about birthdays since twenty seventeen.

495
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: Karen, I feel like any previous stance I had was

496
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 2: deeply affected by COVID and quarantine, So any of that

497
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: kind of like Sarah pussy like it doesn't matter or

498
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: whatever is like I feel like in Quarantine, I really

499
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: had a lot of those dark nights of this soul

500
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 2: of what if I never get to be with like

501
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: eight friends in a room again, what if there's no

502
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: more game night ever? Like that idea was very upsetting

503
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: to me. So I think I'm trying to be better

504
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: about like making plans, even though it seems like a

505
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 2: whole nother job to throw a party.

506
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: I've always been very firm on this thing where I

507
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: have a lot of friends who don't like to celebrate

508
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: their birthday. They don't want to do a party, they

509
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: don't want to do a thing, And I always tell

510
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: them it's not for you. Everyone is lonely and they

511
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: need a reason to go somewhere and talk to people.

512
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: You're doing them a favor by letting them celebrate. Yeah,

513
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: you turning forty seven or whatever the fuck, Like that's

514
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: so nice. They need a reason. It be you. I know.

515
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah it's hard. Yeah, you know what.

516
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: That's such a good that would completely work on me.

517
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: And also I think maybe sometimes the people who say

518
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: I don't care about my birthday, are they just the

519
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 2: people who are like, what's that thing where you have decision.

520
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: Fatigue or whatever?

521
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: They're just like overwhelmed and they're like, I wouldn't know

522
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: where to start. I don't know how to please everybody

523
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: at once.

524
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: Like I got pick a bar and go to it.

525
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: Literally like that.

526
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: To pick a bar and pick a time and your set.

527
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: And an outfit and you're fucking done. You just have

528
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: to show up and you gotta leave whenever you want.

529
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: You get it's your birthday to do whatever you want.

530
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: Everyone buys you drinks the whole time totally chit chatting away.

531
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: You're so right about the people need to hang out,

532
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: so they're like everyone's excited for anyone's birthday because it's like, yes,

533
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 2: give me a chance.

534
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: I just realized, though, that philosophy, if it's not for you,

535
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: it's for everyone else and let them is also the

536
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: same philosophy I have about funerals.

537
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: You know what, They're very similar situations. It's not for you,

538
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: it's not about you.

539
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,479
Speaker 1: It's about everyone else morning not you. It's not you,

540
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: and you don't get to decide. Yeah, exactly. It's very deep.

541
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: I was surprised that this was the first episode from

542
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: the pod loft.

543
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna late. Yeah, but no, but

544
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: I guess not. I think, but I guess not. Was

545
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: what is that? A year since we started? Over a

546
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: year since we started, Yeah, I.

547
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: Guess like it feels like so much more because so

548
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: much happened.

549
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: I think like we finally signed some kind of contract

550
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: that gave us some cash money. Yeah, and I could

551
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: afford a deposit on an apartment.

552
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: On a fancy high ceiling.

553
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: Department, yeah, with a fucking dishwasher.

554
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some delicious cold coffee anytime day or night.

555
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I have bad news I have to tell you. Oh, no,

556
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: Gus the Jacuzzie cat has gone up to the Great

557
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: Jacuzzie in the Sky to hang out with Elvis r

558
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: I peek us on George. They're all chilling around a

559
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: jacuzzi together, smoking fucking cigars.

560
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: George would be trying to kill those cats with every

561
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 2: fiber of her being.

562
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: No, she wouldn't, I refuse.

563
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: She was a very unfriendly desert dog that didn't even

564
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: want to be in my house.

565
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: She was not a friend to animals at all.

566
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: It's so funny, like maybe she chilled out in heaven

567
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: though maybe she like everything she felt safe again.

568
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. You can put down whatever it is that

569
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: you've been carrying.

570
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, all your trauma from out in hemmet, let it go.

571
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: It's okay, little meth dog.

572
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: Oh and we revealed to each other that we both

573
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: up tramps damps, Right, that was.

574
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: An epic moment. That was a turning point in this podcast.

575
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: Is like I think, so, no, we're stuck together.

576
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like a disgusting, a disgusting DNA reveal

577
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: that we're actually like we actually are related or something.

578
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: Our tramp stamp for sync and it was like, well,

579
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: now our white trash got sync up and we're just

580
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: like yeah, and now we're stuck, hey, permanent, fuck up?

581
00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: What's going on?

582
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: We've dedicated it, We've tattooed it onto ourselves.

583
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, we touched tramp stamps. And now are we just

584
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: like like a blood you know, what's it called? A

585
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: blood packed in tramp stamps?

586
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: And then we reverse the luck, we reverse the flunking

587
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: out of every school.

588
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: The only way to turn back into each other ourselves.

589
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: It's like freaky fright it this whole time is to

590
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: touch tramp stamps again.

591
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: And fucking wrap this podcast, right.

592
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: Come over right now, please get over here, please? Yeah, Yeah,

593
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: that was great.

594
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: And also talking about being on the road, I know,

595
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: and we're fucking doing three cities a weekend.

596
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: I know. Yes, that was our first tour, first real tour, right,

597
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: and we're doing doing like drive to the next city,

598
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: stop at old fucking burger king or waffle house if

599
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 1: you're lucky.

600
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

601
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: I just remember an Arby's stop once at the end

602
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: of a weekend and I was just like, I can't

603
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: I love Arby's, but I fucking can't be more constimated, right,

604
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: now then I already am.

605
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 2: I always think about how much I used to get

606
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: at Starbucks in the morning, because I'm like, as this

607
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: day goes by, it's just gonna be less and less

608
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: all day.

609
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: So like, I'll get this for later.

610
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: And maybe if I eat these three things, I won't

611
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: be hungry until five.

612
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: And I won't need to eat drink coffee from the

613
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 1: fucking stuff and come or come and go where over

614
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: the fuck.

615
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: It's call like road life. It just makes me think

616
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: of that. We were at a hotel that was i'd

617
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: say mid range, yeah, but at least it had room service,

618
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: like all twenty four hours. Yeah, And I got a

619
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: bowl of mac and cheese and they sprinkled goldfish on

620
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: the top, and I was like, this is a new low.

621
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: You literally reminded me that when we got home from

622
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: this tour, I said to Vince, let's start doing nice hotels, okay,

623
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: because he was booking all the hotels, you know, and

624
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm we were being frugal because we didn't

625
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: have the money. And yes, I was like, you know what,

626
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do this, we're gonna stay at four

627
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: stars and up okay, plea, Yes.

628
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: Well, you know what that reminds me of. Do you

629
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: remember that hotel? And we've talked about it several times,

630
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: but that hotel in wherever we were, Palm Beach or Miami.

631
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: Somewhere thinking of the Miami, Yes, And it.

632
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: Literally smelled like we were inside of a pool, Like

633
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: it smelled like chlorine the entire hotel. I felt like

634
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: that was one of the other breaking moments of like

635
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: no more convenience hotels, no more mid range hotels, Like

636
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: we have to be able to go somewhere and rejuvenate.

637
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: Right, it has to feel like a treat to get

638
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: back to the room.

639
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: That's really key exactly because it's enough work. Every other

640
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: part of it is work.

641
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: It is, and that has become like one of the

642
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: things I look forward to in tour from then and

643
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: now is like the nice hotels have nice fucking restaurants,

644
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: So like, yes, that's like one of the things that

645
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: keeps me going is like making a reservation at the

646
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: hotels restaurant and looking at their fucking room service menu

647
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: and looking at the amenities and do they have like

648
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: the last hotel we just stayed at had a infrared

649
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: light sauna in the gym. Did you go into it. Yeah,

650
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: I fucking went into it. It was a great sauna,

651
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: like those are. That's the fucking top tier of like

652
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: like wellness in my mind. Yes, that's great. Yeah, I

653
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: totally went in it in my like underwear. But don't

654
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: tell anyone. I'm going to have to call the hotel

655
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: on you. I'm sorry, I'm going to have to retroactively

656
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: report you.

657
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: So Belle Gunnis's personal ad sign off as Triflers Need

658
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Speaker 1: guess we answer a bunch of questions at listeners right

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Speaker 1: in that Steven so funny. I love it. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into the Q and A episode.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's get questions asked at us. Okay, that was

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Speaker 1: our new idea of questions. My it's a.

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Speaker 2: Q and A episode. Everybody get ready? Did you make

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Speaker 2: any kind of keyboard music for the Q?

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Speaker 3: And I got two days?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Can you do you think you lay in like

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Speaker 2: ready keyboard exciting music?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I just saw a guy Branham, so I'm thinking about,

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Speaker 3: you know, talk show, game show. So I got a yes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's pause right here for Steven to put his

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Speaker 1: his music in Q and A music. Oh my god, Stephen,

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Speaker 1: that was amazing. It's all teed up now. Just the

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Speaker 1: baby screaming, just the Jeopardy theme that's really good with

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Speaker 1: a baby screaming over it.

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Speaker 2: That's perfect. There.

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Speaker 3: So here's some stats. Four hundred emails in three point

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Speaker 3: five days.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that's the only stat I guess.

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Speaker 1: The other stat is that the only status that words.

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Speaker 3: So the first question I thought would be the most

694
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Speaker 3: interesting is who thought of the name my favorite murder?

695
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: And what were the this? Oh, Jessica asked this? And

696
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Speaker 3: what were the other name alternatives?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Never any other alternatives.

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Speaker 2: It came out real fast from how I remember it, Uh.

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Speaker 1: I was I believe we were on the phone. No,

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Speaker 1: we were. I thought we were at cafe one on

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Speaker 1: one in a booth.

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00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: Well that's very possible, you mean adur like that four

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Speaker 2: hour one.

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Speaker 1: Of our I think it was the one where I

705
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: finally was like can we make this a podcast? And

706
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: I was like meet me here, we're doing this, okay,

707
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: and then we we like slowly came up with the idea.

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Speaker 1: Not slowly, I think it was like pretty rapid.

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Speaker 2: It was pretty fast.

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Speaker 1: And then I think I went to Pe and came

711
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: back and you were like what about this? Yeah, and

712
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: then I was like yes, and that was it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was never any I remember the notebook I brought

714
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Speaker 1: and I recently went to find the page of like

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Speaker 1: notes I took on like what we could do, and

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Speaker 1: there wasn't any because it was just like, okay, let's

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Speaker 1: do that. Yes.

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Speaker 2: I just remember you came out with the it was

719
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Speaker 2: like it was your idea to do it, and then

720
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Speaker 2: it was you brought the hometown murder idea. So it

721
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Speaker 2: was almost like it just went. It was like watching

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Speaker 2: something lay out in front of you where you're just like, oh, yeah, this.

723
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Speaker 2: I remember I remember pitching that, but I for some

724
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Speaker 2: reason I remember being on the phone, but then I

725
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Speaker 2: also remember polutely.

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Speaker 1: Could have been. I mean, who knew.

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Speaker 2: I really I would never argue it, but I do

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Speaker 2: remember that night going home, and because I was, I

729
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Speaker 2: think I said verbally to you, what if we'd had

730
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Speaker 2: like a kind of a dark true detective style theme?

731
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Speaker 2: And then I went home just to I just sat

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Speaker 2: in my TV room and did what is now the

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Speaker 2: actual theme one one take, But it was a one

734
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Speaker 2: take kind of example. It was supposed to be an example.

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Speaker 2: That's why the sound is so bad on it.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if we still have the text. I still

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Speaker 1: have the I still have the recording you sent me

738
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Speaker 1: because it's in all the texts on your iPhone. But

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Speaker 1: I just want it's got to be in there somewhere

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Speaker 1: of like, how's a song? And I think I was like, great,

741
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: let's do it. I think you recorded it after we

742
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Speaker 1: recorded our first episode.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, because the first one didn't have anything right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the first one we just

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Speaker 1: needed to put it. Oh we put it opening? Yeah,

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00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: all right?

747
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Speaker 2: Is this interesting?

748
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Speaker 1: I don't know, are you interested? I'm interested. I guess

749
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Speaker 1: this is fun.

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Speaker 2: And do you know what I love talking about ourselves totally.

751
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: You know what this podcast is talking about ourselves, also

752
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: talking about other stuff.

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00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you switch bodies freaky this is from Melissa. Yeah,

754
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: if you switched bodies freaky freaky Friday stuff for one day,

755
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: what would you do as the other person?

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Speaker 1: I would touch my big boobs. I'm not kidding. I'm sorry,

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00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: I'm touching boobs. I just immediately it was like, I'd

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Speaker 1: have big boobs.

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Speaker 2: I would start off with your most insane outfit, like,

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Speaker 2: were yours your most extreme vintage dress?

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Speaker 1: I know which one.

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Speaker 2: It is a pre breakfast and I would change my

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Speaker 2: clothes twenty five times that that day.

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Speaker 1: Because I have so many clothes.

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Speaker 2: Because you have so many outfits and you have so

766
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Speaker 2: many combinations. And George is this thing I call I

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Speaker 2: have one shirt. I call it my meeting shirt. And

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Speaker 2: every time we George and I have a meeting together,

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Speaker 2: I show up in the same shirt.

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Speaker 1: George have a lot of meetings lately too, so it's

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Speaker 1: kind of been like it's pretty hilarious, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I am like, what am I going to?

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Speaker 2: Way?

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00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:39,959
Speaker 1: Yep?

775
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, should I leave now? I'm already fifteen

776
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: minutes late. But then Georgia rolls up in clothes that

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I remember people wearing that in nineteen eighty two,

778
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Speaker 2: Like these outfits that are so rad and perfect. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would do outfits.

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Speaker 1: Shopping addiction, it's a problem. No, But I did show

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Speaker 1: up to therapy today and like my favorite like sweater,

782
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: and my therapist almost started crying because she was like,

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Speaker 1: I had that when I was in elementary school.

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Speaker 2: You have so many clothes that I had now elementary school.

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Speaker 1: It's hilarious. That means watch me. I love dressing. I

786
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Speaker 1: love outfits. This is what happens when all you have

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Speaker 1: is hand me down. Is when you're a kid from

788
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: like boys like your older cousin boy cousins, you become

789
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Speaker 1: a shopaholic and then just have all the clothes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the cute dist dresses.

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00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Thank you. I touch my boobs still. Oh you know

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00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: what I would do. I would have cleavage that I'd

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00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: learned what it was like for someone to talk at

794
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: my boobs, you know how like girls. I was like,

795
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: he just stared right at my boos, and he's that's

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00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: never happened to me.

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Speaker 2: I think when you have big boobs, well it just

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Speaker 2: depends on the kind of person you are. But I've

799
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: been the person that's been like maybe I know you know,

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00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: these are not the dyers you're looking for.

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00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to objectify you. No, it's like I'm not.

802
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I make you uncomfortable. I'm just so

803
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: had like most basically a my entire life, I've.

804
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: Always wanted to be the kind of girl that like, oh,

805
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: it's a special party, I'm going to put on I'm

806
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: going to get put a push up ron and put

807
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: on like this dress, but my boobs Like in that

808
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: scenario it looks rated X.

809
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: It's like it.

810
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: Looks it looks it looks like it's not for public consumption.

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Speaker 1: I also have like a seminus around showing too much skin,

812
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: where it's like, why do I have to do this

813
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: in society? Like I get I definitely want I'll try

814
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: to wear a low cut shirt. I get sad. Yeah

815
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you feel like you

816
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: feel like you have to Yeah, Like I feel objectified,

817
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: like I'm doing to you right now. Congratulations.

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00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: It's fun when your friend does it, though, okay it is.

819
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: It's a compliment.

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Speaker 3: So this is a question that we got from a

821
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 3: lot of people. Oh, but I had a question about

822
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: it because isn't the first episode technically your favorite murders?

823
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: John Benet and the Sacramento is Easteria rapist.

824
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

825
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: Are are those technically your my favorite murders?

826
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: We can ask that a lot when it's like, what

827
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: is your favorite murder? I just don't think there's an answer.

828
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: No.

829
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 3: So then my question is has that changed since you've

830
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 3: started doing this podcast? Has like has like your what

831
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: you would consider your favorites? Has it changed it all

832
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: since you started?

833
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: I would say it has changed because to me, it's this,

834
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: it's the murder story. The best thing that lays out

835
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: as a story is become my favorite because when it's

836
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 2: like a person that's say, it's just like they killed

837
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: a bunch of people in one day at the end,

838
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: like it's hard to make that have legs or be

839
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: you know, like you have to do a bunch of

840
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: other research to pull that out in any way.

841
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of murders people are like, I

842
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: wish you would do this that we just can't because

843
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: there's not it's just this sad short story of knowing

844
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: there's no conclusion.

845
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: To it, or like I've we've talked about this a

846
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: couple of times, and there's been a couple of people

847
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: that tweeted. But the Georgia Moses story, who is the

848
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: other little twelve year old girl who was murdered in

849
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: my hometown who is black, and so she was basically

850
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: the like the uh, it's the opposite of poly class

851
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: where poly class. It was a national news story and

852
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: nobody's ever heard of Georgia Moses. And when I went

853
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: I told people I would do that story. And when

854
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: I went to research it, every single part of it

855
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: is so depressing.

856
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: She was so.

857
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: Abandoned and not taken care of and the you know,

858
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: not supported in any way, and no one helped her.

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00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: No adults in her life seemed to help her. She

860
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: was such a it's just the saddest story that like,

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00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: I you know, it's that kind of thing where then

862
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: I just I kind of avoid it because it's like,

863
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: how do I present this in a way that doesn't

864
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 2: want to make you just cry at the end.

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00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the word favorite is so I just

866
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: I love I love the stories and the mysteries and

867
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: the horrific circumstances behind it in a way that means

868
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 1: I fucking hate it so much that it makes me angry. Yeah,

869
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: so that's what you. I mean, it's just so hard

870
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: to be Like, Jean Benet is my favorite. John Binney

871
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: is really interesting to me because I think that it's

872
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: so diabolical and insane, and then I just I don't know,

873
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: there's no.

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00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: There's too many categories, I think to really pick one.

875
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: And to also, I've answered that question differently every time wee.

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00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Ben asked of me too, just then we get asked like,

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Speaker 1: what was your first one that you were interested in?

878
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: For me, it changes all the time, where like I'll

879
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: remember a new one and be like, oh, yeah, I

880
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: love that.

881
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

882
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: I just remember this morning that when I was like thirteen,

883
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: Jane's Addiction was my favorite band in the world, and

884
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: I just remembered they had a song called Ted just

885
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: admitted that was about Ted Bundy, which made me look,

886
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: who the fuck is Ted Bundy and made me look

887
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: into it, And that is just like you just what

888
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: was your first What was? I don't know what's your favorite?

889
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to remember those. Like everybody has a

890
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: million defining moments or a million like it. I mean,

891
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: like mine isn't even really a murder. I just remember

892
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: how excited I got when I went to check out

893
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: the Amityville Horror Book and my grammar school library and

894
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: sister Rita Rose, who was the oldest nun in the

895
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 2: game in the world stilling a habit and she had

896
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: like gnarled old fingers. She looked like a character from

897
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: a Stephen King novel.

898
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

899
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: And I went to check that book out and she

900
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: was so angry at me, but I was like, it's

901
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: in the school library, like it's not my fault. And

902
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: I also checked it out multiple times, but that was like,

903
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: oh god, that school right now.

904
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 1: And found that book in Karen Kilgarrett's Little Someone please

905
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: go do that.

906
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, being then it's my birthday.

907
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 2: We'll just say it was fucking over thirty years ago.

908
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: Isn't that insane? It was so long ago that it's

909
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: still there. They don't rip those card catalog Dewey decimal

910
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: shit out of the books. I wonder that's eating it.

911
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: I can get my friend Katie to go look because

912
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: she works there.

913
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: Katie, do it, go do it? What was I'm sorry,

914
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: what was the question?

915
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: I think it just done that was great, great, it

916
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: was great.

917
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: Mary.

918
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Mary Eki, I don't Mary with e key

919
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: e k E asked, what's the worst, the best, worst

920
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: reaction that you've gotten from somebody who doesn't share your

921
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: love of true crime?

922
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: Well, I mean there are those social media messages we

923
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: get where it's like women of Satan, I'll kill you

924
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: or things like that that we just immediately delete and

925
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: report and don't pay attention to.

926
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: You know, what I did, which I know is a mistake,

927
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: but it ended up making me feel really good. Is

928
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: I read the comments on a thing we were in.

929
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: We were on the Washington Post. We had an interview

930
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: and which was so incredible on this past weekend, and

931
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: it was amazing and it's like legit. And my mom went,

932
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: who pooh exclamation mark and I told her about it

933
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: and there I started reading the comments and there were

934
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: all these people of like how dare they this and that,

935
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: and every single one was commented on by a fucking

936
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: murder you now, very eloquently telling them why they were

937
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: incorrect and why it was actually good and not in

938
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: a dick way. And it was just like, we don't need,

939
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: we don't need to respond to those things. Because everyone's

940
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: everyone's are there are bullies for us? Right?

941
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: And also the people that that stance of, like the

942
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: how dare you stance? Do you write to Keith Morrison

943
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: and say how dare you for reporting the murders that

944
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: you do? And in a salacious way on twenty twenty

945
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: or whatever?

946
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

947
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 2: Like, it's are you bringing this to other people's doors?

948
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: I bet they're not?

949
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: I bet they are. Keith call us let us snap?

950
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: Can you come hang out with us? You're the only

951
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: one that could answer that question.

952
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 3: Scotty asks how much money would you actually be paid

953
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 3: to hitchhike across the country?

954
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: Is that Scotty Landis?

955
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: I bet it? I think it was.

956
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: No.

957
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: Scotty's like, because I want to take you on a

958
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: hitchhiking and I want to. He's a producer. He's like,

959
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: that's my new show, hitch.

960
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 2: Hitchhiking Show where it shows real time how killed we guess.

961
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: And Scotty doesn't intervene when we're actually getting killed. He

962
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: just keeps smiling, like, right, this is going to be

963
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: a hit TV show.

964
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 2: Uh?

965
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: I would I don't need money? Worked? Are we together?

966
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: I don't need money?

967
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: I think you can set the terms of it. Oh, no,

968
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: you have to be alone and it has to be

969
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 3: and tonight to leave tonight.

970
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: We leave tonight and we have to do it alone.

971
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: No, no, So then but the.

972
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: Well, the monetary answer then would be I would minimum

973
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 2: six million dollars.

974
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: I was gonna say a million. Kind I'm cheap, I'm

975
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: a cheap kill. Yeah, you got to get that money

976
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: up there. What if Karen, you had to say you

977
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: had to accept every ride that stopped, like you couldn't

978
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: be like no pass.

979
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: Well, then money would matter because I would definitely be dead,

980
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: I mean right, like, oh my god.

981
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: What. But also, I don't think people pick up hitchhikers anymore. No,

982
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: I think.

983
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: Well, but if you're a girl, I think it's definitely true.

984
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: But if you're murderable, that's different. I mean I think

985
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: me and my big tits are pretty murderable, and I

986
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: would definitely.

987
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: Be wearing a V neck T shirt. Six million, get

988
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: six million for care and a million for me because

989
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: I make cups I'm cheaper.

990
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: Also, I just hate the idea of having to get

991
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: into other people's cars, like you know, when you get

992
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: like like it's festivals, you get.

993
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Picked up by some kid.

994
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: It's his car and he's got weird shit hanging from

995
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: the rear view mirror and stuff like that. It's it's

996
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: not like that's a dream, even when they don't want

997
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: to kill you, much less than when you're also feeling

998
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: like you're in danger.

999
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: I had an uber the other day that it smelled

1000
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: like he had put his infected feet on every surface

1001
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: of the uber on purpose. Did I already tell you this?

1002
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: No?

1003
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: On purpose that he had like singing as a fucking

1004
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: nursery rhyme, touched every anyways so well.

1005
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: But worse than that for me was why it kind

1006
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: of stopped taking ubers after a while. Is because the

1007
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: cologne or whatever it was happening where they were using

1008
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: either air freshener or it was cologne. But I would

1009
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: roll the windows on it be like the middle of

1010
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: the night. They'd be like, well are you are you hot?

1011
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: What's do you need me to try on the air condition?

1012
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: Just be like I can't breathe stop it. You and

1013
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: your axe body spray are bumming me out.

1014
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't it's too much.

1015
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: It's a lot, okay, did we answer? Thanks Scotty Landis

1016
00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: for playing.

1017
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: Ball since starting My Favorite Murder? Has anyone who's oh,

1018
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: this is from Deborah. I keep forgetting it with the

1019
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: names whatever I'm getting since starting My Favorite Murder? Has

1020
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: anyone who has been in your life for a long

1021
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: time told you a story that you never would have

1022
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 3: known if it wasn't for the podcast?

1023
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: Everyone? For sure? Yeah, everyone, And or they mentioned it

1024
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: and now they tell you more details, or they remember

1025
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: another one and they're like, oh, yeah, yes, definitely, that's

1026
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: definitely happened, and it's not weird when you ask them

1027
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: for more details.

1028
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: Right, Well, the best example is my cousin. My cousin's

1029
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: texting me on was it Thanksgiving or Christmas to tell

1030
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: me that my cousin, Marty, who was now a retired

1031
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: San Francisco policeman, was there and found the fingerprint that

1032
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: broke the nightstalker case, and like they put it together

1033
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: over there because my cousins.

1034
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: Listen, why would they ever tell you that?

1035
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: Yes? And he was like I was yelling at him

1036
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: because I was like, how could you not? He was like,

1037
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody ever wants.

1038
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: To talk about you bring that up with your random cousins. Yeah,

1039
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: you see once every year, hey know, what I did

1040
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: I have I just remember I had save it. The

1041
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: other day, like two weekends ago, I was with my

1042
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: family having lunch and because of the you know, we were

1043
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: talking about the podcast, and my uncle, who I see

1044
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: once every three years or something, was like, oh, yeah,

1045
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: I rented out my apartment to a mass murderer. And

1046
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry, like, and he and I

1047
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: don't you know, he's we don't really connect. And then

1048
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: we went and I was like, tell me everything. And

1049
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: I have it on my phone recorded. Do you remember

1050
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: the name of my cut of my uncle? No? Yes,

1051
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: I have it recorded, and I feel like I should

1052
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: save it.

1053
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, say it. It's it's it sounds amazing.

1054
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: You know this seren Gas in Japan? Yes, he was

1055
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: in that cult. No, well, he rented it to that guy.

1056
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: He rented it to the head of that cult. No, yep,

1057
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: the guy that Wyoh. Okay, should I just tell you

1058
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: or should I work? He's such a funny guy. I

1059
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: think I should save it and let him tell you. Okay, good, Yeah,

1060
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: we'll do that. Okay. So yes, the answer is yes.

1061
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: Amanda asks would you ever have a as a pen

1062
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 3: pal with somebody in prison?

1063
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: No? No, nope, was that not what we're interested in?

1064
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: No thanks, No, Amber asks, what are some movies that

1065
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 3: you watched as a kid that frightened you? But you're

1066
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: still nostalgic about Poultergeist?

1067
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: Oh, pulter Geist the best rach Noophobia? Oh if.

1068
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: Poor Michael, I for a while was a babysitter, like

1069
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: when I was super broken. It was right after I

1070
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: started having seizure, so I couldn't drive and I kind

1071
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: of couldn't do anything. In my friend Pat Buckle's God

1072
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: bless her soul, she was like, come and babysit the

1073
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: kids and I'll pay you whatever. She took my car,

1074
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: so it was like she was paying me to be

1075
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: the babysitter and then she got to use my car.

1076
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: Cool. It was perfect.

1077
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: But anyway, Michael at the time, who's now like in

1078
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: his early twenties, but he was like five at the time,

1079
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: and we were hanging out one night in a Rachnophobia

1080
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: came on. I was like, do you want to watch this?

1081
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: He's like yeah. He still had like a little boy accent,

1082
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: like this is scary like that. It scared the shit

1083
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 2: out of him and Pat called me later. It's like, really,

1084
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: a rachnophobia, and I was like, oh my god, I'm

1085
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: so sorry, Like I had to relearn how to be

1086
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: a normal person with children because I was like, oh, yeah,

1087
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: you're right, that's a spider's coming out of a shower head.

1088
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: I didn't take a shower as a kid for years,

1089
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: no more. What I still don't take shower? Oh baby powder.

1090
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: What were here of movies as a kid? I mean

1091
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: the Exorcist we saw, I mean mine or older, but

1092
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: we would always see those movies that got rerun on

1093
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: the night like standard TV. So like the Trilogy of Terror.

1094
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 2: It's not a movie, but it was a TV show

1095
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: called The Trilogy of Terror. And anybody that was little

1096
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: in the seventies can tell you that it was the

1097
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: scariest fuck thing in the world.

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00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: And we watched it.

1099
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: It was me and my sister, We were probably like

1100
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: seven and nine. Then my cousin Stevie was like thirteen,

1101
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: and then hit. Our older cousins were like in there, fifteen,

1102
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: sixteen whatever. We all watched it together with all the

1103
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: parents were.

1104
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: Out to dinner.

1105
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: And it's the one where it has a little The

1106
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: last one is this little doll, and I believe it's

1107
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: Karen Black is the person who owns the doll, and

1108
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: it's like someone gave it to her from a you know,

1109
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: they brought it back from some different country. And she

1110
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: gets up to take a shower and the doll that's

1111
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: like this doll is sitting there and it has a

1112
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 2: thing around its, a necklace that says, never take this off.

1113
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: And then the necklace drops off and the doll comes

1114
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: to life and it has a little knife and it

1115
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: just tries to kill her, and it's it freaked us

1116
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 2: all out so bad that like that night, we spent

1117
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: the night at my aunt Jean's and my cousin Stevie

1118
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: got up in the middle of the night screaming like

1119
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 2: it was a whole event in our family.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, we don't even need mo we need

1121
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: all the news. Yeah, was like horrifying, and they were

1122
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: like kids, gather around and look at all these horrifics.

1123
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: We're check this ship, check the shit out. I was

1124
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: just watching Guns Held Mysteries the other night and it's

1125
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: like this song, the theme song makes me want to cry.

1126
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: And then what was the one that was like Twilight

1127
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: Zone but it was newer. It was called what was

1128
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: it Stephen Unix Steven Amazing Story. Yes, yes, they had

1129
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: some really fucking skill and like all the ghost shit

1130
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.

1131
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: I think on Amazing Were Amazing Stories based on true stories?

1132
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: Or were they?

1133
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: Was it just I think the show because I feel

1134
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: like that was the one.

1135
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: It was either the reboot of Twilight Zone or it

1136
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: was Amazing Stories where there was a woman. A man

1137
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: picks his wife up after she has been attacked. He

1138
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 2: picks her up from the hospital, remember that, And as

1139
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: they're driving home, she goes, that's the man and she

1140
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: freaks out. He gets out, kills me, He gets back

1141
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: in and then she does it. She just keeps doing

1142
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: it the whole ride home.

1143
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: Suddenly he realizes he killed the wrong Yep, man, is

1144
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: that a I think that's a Twilight Zone.

1145
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: But it was a new one. Oh oh like it

1146
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: was modern. Yeah, it wasn't the old It was creazy.

1147
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: You know who will know was Joe DeRosa. He was

1148
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: a Twilight Zone expert, so you know, so Joe DeRosa.

1149
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: They he and Pat while she have a podcast that

1150
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: we've talked about called Your What We'll see You and

1151
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: He'll See You and how. And I've met Joe DeRosa's

1152
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: mom and she's she's got this accent, like Jerseyish accent.

1153
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: She's like, well, when I was I would make Joe

1154
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: at six years old watch these horrooms. She's obsessed with

1155
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: horror movies. And she was just talking about how she'd

1156
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: make Joe. I didn't want to watch them alone. So

1157
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: did you make your five and six year old kid

1158
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: watch them with you? And it's like, oh, I get

1159
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: your I get Joe so much better now because he

1160
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: had to watch had to watch these movies with his mommy. Joe, Okay, sorry,

1161
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: not sorry? Why am I? Sorry?

1162
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: No?

1163
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: Never? Sorry?

1164
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: Julia asks what would your what your dream job in

1165
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: the true crime field? B like, if you could be

1166
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: in the true crime like.

1167
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: M I guess hmmm. Going through of m crime scene analyst?

1168
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: Is that a thing? Can I go? I think, people, Yes,

1169
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: that's all I want.

1170
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 2: Crime scene analyst is sounds almost definitely like a real thing.

1171
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: I want to go to the estate sale of someone

1172
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: who got killed with the intent of finding out why

1173
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: they got killed. You want to be a detective? Thank you?

1174
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I don't want to be a detective. You

1175
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: want to be a detective. Yeah, like a straight up

1176
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't like you know, Yes, I don't need a

1177
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: fancy fucking office title money. I'm trying to think.

1178
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: I feel like I would want to do something in

1179
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: the lab where they test things, where people are waiting

1180
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: to see what the thing is really. Yeah. Like I

1181
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: like the idea of being at ground zero when you

1182
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: find out this is definitely his blood, it's not his

1183
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 2: blood one of those things that's cool.

1184
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: I don't that's that seems clean. And I want to

1185
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: get disgusting.

1186
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: Right, I want to get disgusting, except for I want

1187
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: it to be like fictionally disgusting, where it's interesting disgusting

1188
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 2: as opposed to regular bummer disgusting.

1189
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: I imagine the first time I see the real really

1190
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: what it is, I would change my mind. But I

1191
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: did find out that an ex boyfriend was worked at

1192
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: it Morgue and would pick up the bodies. Yeah, and

1193
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: I was fucking pissed that he got to do that

1194
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: after breaking my heart, that he got to then be

1195
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: something fucking cool and I didn't.

1196
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, did he appreciate it? Did he know that it

1197
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 2: was I think he did. Yeah. Mount Myra also worked

1198
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: it for a funeral home.

1199
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: He did.

1200
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: I listened to his I think he was on crop

1201
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: feast and he told the story was I mean, amazing stories,

1202
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: But I feel like I don't even know enough about

1203
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: any of them. Anyone know what my favorite thing would be.

1204
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: But I think the person who gets to call the

1205
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: lead detective to say we got him, sunny or whatever.

1206
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: I want to be a podcast, a true crime podcaster.

1207
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think you're gonna I don't think that's

1208
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: gonna work.

1209
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: That's not a job.

1210
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 3: So I've been told, is it getting harder to find

1211
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: stories for the podcast?

1212
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: No, not in the least. Oh my god, there's we

1213
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: have too many. I have too many that I'm excited about. Yeah.

1214
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: The hard thing is actually for me finding them for

1215
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: live shows.

1216
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: Suddenly, the work, the work of putting it together in

1217
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: a cohesive, accurate, condensed way. It's just like that that's

1218
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: going to please people, and having that consciousness of it

1219
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: and all that.

1220
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: I think it's just the self consciousness our live shows,

1221
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: of all of it.

1222
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: Oh, is that's what's hard for me?

1223
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very hard. It's hard, But for me it's

1224
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: hard but rewarding and I enjoy it for our for

1225
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: the podcast. But live shows is hard because you have

1226
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: you want to do it somewhere near the town you're

1227
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: doing it, at least I want. And then I've realized

1228
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: that there's certain topics that you should I shouldn't be

1229
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: covering in the live shows. So you don't want to

1230
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: do a bunch of child murders because then you get

1231
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: silence and that makes me self conscious and weird. So

1232
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: that part is hard for me. So when I do

1233
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: find one, I get really excited, but I don't have

1234
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: mine for this weekend and it's Tuesday, and we have

1235
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: so much time because it's so hard. Yeah, but now

1236
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: our tour manager is my husband, and he's like, are

1237
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: you done? Do you need to do it? Georgia. No,

1238
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: we're not going out to do it. We simply don't

1239
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: have to deal with that. Inspired from being my husband

1240
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: because Sill be the tour manager, that's right.

1241
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: Oh and that was from Sarah. Thanks Sarah, Sarah. And

1242
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 3: then Ali asks she's been dying to know after MINNISO

1243
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 3: twenty five, did you two go to Barnes and Noble

1244
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 3: and get mechanical pencils in a day planner?

1245
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: We did?

1246
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: We sure did? We I couldn't wait and so I

1247
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: went and got a day planner by myself.

1248
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: Right then we met.

1249
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: Up at Barnes and Noble to look to to and

1250
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: then Georgie was like, well, let's go look at day planners.

1251
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, I God want to

1252
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: ren But.

1253
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: But when we had sushi, then we ate a bunch

1254
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: of sushi.

1255
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: Uh, and we just had a good old time at

1256
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: the Americana. Yeah, that's it, Glendale's Grove. What's up, Madewell?

1257
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: But also sorry Madewell. But then the J crew that's

1258
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: across from the maidwell at the Grove is starting to

1259
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: feel very competitive because I went into the maidwell at

1260
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: the grove. Sorry, this is I mean, this is asshole corner.

1261
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: But I went into the maidwell at the Grove and

1262
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: the girl gave me a discount and we had a

1263
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: nice chat. And then I got a tweet later that

1264
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: day that was like we like you better at the

1265
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: J cru.

1266
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: Cross the street.

1267
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: It was really hilarious.

1268
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: Can I do ask who the corner? Real quick? And

1269
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: last night when I was at the fucking mecca of

1270
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: Hipsterville of the Trader Joe's in Silverley, and one of

1271
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: the Trader Joe's workers who was like, I feel like

1272
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: they were on another plane of like coolness somehow. Maybe

1273
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: it's because I the London application for Trader Joe's and

1274
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: they never hired me because I can't math. So it's like, yeah, yeah,

1275
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: you think you're better than me. But she was stalking

1276
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: salads and she turns to me and just goes, you

1277
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: know that's the thing. And I was just I almost

1278
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: started crying, and I think I think I overdid it

1279
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: because she was just like great and like walked away,

1280
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: almost to cry, and she's like, this isn't what I

1281
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: wanted from telling her this.

1282
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, we have nice fans.

1283
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, no where to go?

1284
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

1285
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: Eve asks a stat I have heard slash scene slash

1286
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: right over the years is that there are approximately eighty

1287
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: seven actives here killers in the US right now. Do

1288
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: you think this is accurate? Too high? Too low?

1289
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: I just read an article that said there were forty.

1290
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: I know I've seen lower like thirty to forty, but

1291
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: I mean that's too many. Also, they don't know.

1292
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: It's all conjecture, so it's like we think it's this.

1293
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: But then when the Killing Field series was on and

1294
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: made it seem like there were five hundred active serial killers.

1295
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it was like, there's tons. A number. I'm

1296
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: more interested in is how many clandestine graves are there?

1297
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: Like right now, carrying, you're sitting in front of a

1298
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: tapestry of a beautiful forest, and it's like whenever. And

1299
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: when we were driving, we were on a road trip

1300
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: to a locate to do a live show, and I

1301
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: was staring at the window and looking at the fields,

1302
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: and all I could think of was how many dead

1303
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: bodies are buried out there? Yep, because there's got to

1304
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: be so many so serial killers. I don't know, yeah,

1305
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: but dead bodies, that's what you want to know.

1306
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's an interesting There's a really good I

1307
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: believe it's in the Sandman series by Neil Gaiman. But

1308
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, men are people going to be mad

1309
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: at me. There was one of the comic books and

1310
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 2: the whole thing was about how all the serial killers.

1311
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: Were meeting up at a motel for the did.

1312
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: You read that one? For them for the serial killer

1313
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: convention that they were having.

1314
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: That wasn't American Gods? Was it? No? Oh? That was

1315
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: all the Gods.

1316
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: Yes, it's called American New fucking Yes, yes, similar feel

1317
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure.

1318
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: It was Oh, that's Sandman interesting.

1319
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: And it was I think about that all the time,

1320
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 2: where like, do they know each other but they hate

1321
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: each other? Yeah, I mean yeah, because they want to

1322
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: be the Yeah.

1323
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: I bet they're like, they're not doing it right. Yeah,

1324
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: wonder wonder.

1325
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 3: Jordan asks, So my husband got me this bluetooth whistle

1326
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: thing that should I blow it a text with help

1327
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: and my GPS location is sent to three of my contacts.

1328
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: It keeps updating with my GPS until I check in

1329
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 3: and verify. I'm fine. My question is what do you

1330
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 3: think about this kind of technology? Would you guys carry one?

1331
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 3: And do you think it'll be common in the future?

1332
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: What if it just picked whatever? It was like a

1333
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,479
Speaker 1: roulette of whatever contacts and it was like your ex

1334
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: boyfriend and some guy you met.

1335
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: Her, someone that you used to work with that you

1336
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: do not talk to anymore.

1337
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what help?

1338
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: The first thing I thought of, like, I love the

1339
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: idea of that, but if in my hands, like this

1340
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,479
Speaker 2: weekend I was at the Bridgetown Comedy Festival is super fun. Great.

1341
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: I must have lost my glasses five times, and a

1342
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: couple of the times they were in my pocket and

1343
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: I was just like, in the second I thought they

1344
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: were gone, I was just freaking out and like I

1345
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: left them at the last place, I would start walking

1346
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: back to places the whole nine yards. But so that

1347
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: being said, what I mean is I have that thing

1348
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: of like I'm going to be sending help to people

1349
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: never met it after a while, just like the fable.

1350
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: Everyone's like it's just her thing where she touches it

1351
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: all the time, But actually I'm at the bottom of

1352
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: a well, you know it's going to backfire eventually.

1353
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: Well no, eventually after three days of have you heard

1354
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: from Karen?

1355
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the way I am of like flaking on

1356
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: people in late it's going to be like three months

1357
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: later you're like, should we check on Karen? She might

1358
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: be mad at me or whatever. It just like, never

1359
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: come over.

1360
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: I almost got you for your birthday this like it

1361
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: was this like journal notebook and it just said on

1362
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: the front, uh, excuses for why I can't go out,

1363
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: but I didn't. So true. I mean, dude, I mean

1364
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: that too. I mean I was like, do I have

1365
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: a stomach ailment? Like this weekend was great because I

1366
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: was trying to do a fake not a real fast

1367
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, I can just tell everyone that

1368
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: I can't go out and they'll get it because we're

1369
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: in La.

1370
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, that's a classic.

1371
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: And then I had a pretzel. That pretzel looks so good.

1372
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: Georgia texted me the pretzel, the picture of the pretzel

1373
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: that was breaking her fast, and I wanted to reach

1374
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: through the phone and grab it away from her.

1375
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: The York and Highland Park And as I was walking

1376
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: back to my car where Vince and I were walking

1377
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: across the crosswalk and this couple and one of them

1378
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: is like a model, like one of the most beautiful women,

1379
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: and she said Hi Georgia, and I was like, I

1380
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: absolutely don't know anyone who looks like that. And I

1381
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: said Hi, like I not high, I said hi. But

1382
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: then she tweeted at me and was like, I said

1383
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: hi to you. I'm a fan of the podcast. And

1384
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I know, because I would have known

1385
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: that I know a model. Oh it's my model friend, Gloria,

1386
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: a model friend.

1387
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 3: Yes, I also did. I also the first thing I

1388
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 3: said when I got here was like, that pretzel looks amazing.

1389
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: It will I just was like, like, oh my god.

1390
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: So it was so big, it had it it looked

1391
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: like a cartoon pretzel.

1392
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. York and Highland Park shout out, yeah,

1393
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: well done on your pretzel game.

1394
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 3: Alyssa asks, do you think you guys could get away

1395
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 3: with murder?

1396
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think. No, I would leave my

1397
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: glasses there. Leopolden Lobe shouting for real, I would confess.

1398
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: I think I just couldn't carry that around with no.

1399
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: No, no, that's even considering it makes me feel guilty, like

1400
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: it's everything about it.

1401
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: It is so terrible. I just I can't you know,

1402
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get away with it because I don't don't think,

1403
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: because in my mind I would think I couldn't get

1404
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: away with it, So I would just go and.

1405
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: Say and I just couldn't do it. There's no perfect crime.

1406
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 2: You can't do it.

1407
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: And DNA, there's no I mean, there's no thing that

1408
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: doesn't tie you back. Even poison. It's like, well they

1409
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: can trace why where people bought this poison.

1410
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: Yes, there's no way, there's no way.

1411
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: Also, don't kill people, stop it, don't get life insurance balls,

1412
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: stop it. Okay.

1413
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 3: Charlotte asks, if you had a chance to go back

1414
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,959
Speaker 3: and be involved in an investigation of any serial killer

1415
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: or unsolved case? Which one would it be? And why?

1416
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: Like, can we listen? I know you didn't write this

1417
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: even but I want some clarity, Like from the beginning,

1418
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: let's say, ooh, don't look at that paper. Tell Stephen

1419
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: you're answering this from the beginning.

1420
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, yeah, you're hit the ground running.

1421
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 3: You're like first call well, Jean.

1422
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: Benet, I'd say Zodiac. I just recently rewined and I

1423
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: talked about it, but rewatched that movie at Santa Family.

1424
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: It's such a good movie. It's making a new serial

1425
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: killer movie right now. Yeap? What is it? Is it

1426
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: the one about the British guy? I don't know.

1427
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: Someone told me about it and I got so excited.

1428
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 2: I think I wrote it in my calendar.

1429
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: I think my friend Carlos, who like, we're we've been

1430
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: friends for a long time, but as soon as I

1431
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: started this he found out about this podcast. He just

1432
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: sends me shit all the time about like Murder the

1433
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: Best Great and he sent me the trailer. I haven't

1434
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: seen it, but we watched it together, didn't we? Probably?

1435
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 2: I bet we did. Okay, so you're probably the person

1436
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

1437
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: When I say someone told me about it.

1438
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: Oh great, I mean our worlds are just combining.

1439
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: I think we saw each other every day last week.

1440
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: We really did, like, not even just as like. And

1441
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: I was probably wearing a new Ventuce dress and every

1442
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: single one, and.

1443
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 2: I was wearing my same meeting shirt everying.

1444
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,479
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a great one. Yeah, that's that's a hard

1445
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: one because I feel like John Bay is easy, it's obvious,

1446
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: but Zodiac is clues and shit.

1447
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I met Zodiac with Mark Ruffalo. I just

1448
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: would like to be around him doing some very honorable

1449
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 2: and noble police work in the seventies of San Francisco.

1450
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 3: Let's see. I think we're winding down more.

1451
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: I love talking about myself.

1452
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 3: Uh, if you were an inmate on death row, Julia asks,

1453
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 3: this is the same Julia's right is.

1454
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: She can ask that chicken chicken? I knew that was.

1455
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: I fucking love Pack's photos. I do too. Oh man,

1456
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: there was a girl, the girl who got so drunk

1457
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: at one of our shows that she vomited and crawled.

1458
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: Out and crawled out, fucking who was lovely? Just fists

1459
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 2: in the air to you.

1460
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: Girl turned out to be a lovely girl. Had done

1461
01:06:55,200 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: a uh dinner party of last meals, and I think

1462
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: she like bought fourteen buckets of KFC, you know, like

1463
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: did the whole thing.

1464
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, serving that stuff up.

1465
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: I mean, what would you do? Because I could go

1466
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: eat KFC right now if I want to see, I'd

1467
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: fucking hate myself.

1468
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 2: But sorry, are you saying kit you would do just

1469
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: full only no chicken, Oh gosh no?

1470
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: Or a full.

1471
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: KFC like buffet.

1472
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, which remember when we were driving to Philadelphia

1473
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: and they had a KFC buffet restaurant. Yes, that's right. Anyways,

1474
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: what would you what?

1475
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 2: Let's see, I mean, I guess it would. I would

1476
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: have to do my what I call my quote unquote

1477
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 2: special occasion food, So I eat constantly pretending that it's

1478
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: my birthday all the time, which is like mac and cheese.

1479
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: From where it has to be a place 's just

1480
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: like a kind is there? Like I guess, like.

1481
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 2: Shit, I'm trying to think of, like where's a plate

1482
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 2: like a soul food restaurant mac and cheese, probably, I guess,

1483
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 2: like us because fried chicken soul food would like those

1484
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: baked beans, that kind of stuff. But also I was

1485
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 2: going to say mac and cheese, one of those soft

1486
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 2: pretzels with the cheese dip something like that. Now my

1487
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: mouth's just watering, and I know I'm hungry. I'm glad

1488
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 2: this is ending.

1489
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: What was I oh, uh waffle chicken waffles? Well, oh,

1490
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. We have a little road trip

1491
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: this weekend on our tour. And there is a white Castle, yes,

1492
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: as far as Vince is concerned or says. And I've

1493
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: never been to an actual white Castle restaurant. I need

1494
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: them frozen so many drunk times, and I'm really excited

1495
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: to go to a real hot out of the bag.

1496
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: We neither of us as California girls, have ever had

1497
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: that experience ever of white Castle out of the bag.

1498
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: Hoping there's a waffle house, but I'm not sure if

1499
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: there is. But either way, we're going to get our

1500
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: white Castle. We're getting our White Castle's exciting.

1501
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 3: Lauren asks, just curious to know what your thoughts are

1502
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 3: on making a murderer.

1503
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 2: I loved it. I watched it. I think that was

1504
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: near the beginning of us of this podcast because I

1505
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: watched it. I started it at seven o'clock at night

1506
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: and stayed up all night and watched it through the

1507
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 2: night and into the next morning.

1508
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: And then I.

1509
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: Remember telling you about it after I did that, because

1510
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: I just couldn't stop watching it.

1511
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: It was It was an incredible, incredible show.

1512
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, with people who seemed like they were from Central

1513
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 2: Casting of either inept or totally corrupt politician types.

1514
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: It was amazing. And then I was I went to

1515
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: and you were supposed to come to the Strand and

1516
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: Storm and Dring. What was it Strand and Dean. Yeah,

1517
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: like they had a Q and A or like a

1518
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: talkie times. Yes, it was great. They're fucking badass motherfuckers. Yeah,

1519
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: it was great.

1520
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 3: This question comes from City Life office.

1521
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 1: Uh oh oh, yours here they're serving us with our

1522
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: papers through Stephen. You're under arrest. It's a.

1523
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 3: City Life office asks what does a day in the

1524
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 3: life of Karen and Georgia look like?

1525
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: Tell me your you want to tell me your day

1526
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: to day.

1527
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 2: We get up out of our bunk beds. Georgie slips

1528
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: into a vine in dress, meeting house dressed.

1529
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: Karen loses her fucking mind because I'm in house panic,

1530
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: even though it's he in the morning. I woke up

1531
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: late and went to therapy. Yeah, hi, I screamed at

1532
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: a chair for the first time.

1533
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 2: Interesting in a role playing situation.

1534
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, how to feel hard. It was really hard because

1535
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: it felt stupid, or it was hard emotionally. It felt stupid,

1536
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: but it was really hard emotionally. And I fucking bald,

1537
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 1: which I don't do in therapy.

1538
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to get that stuff out.

1539
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: It felt good. I have a ton of anger. I'm

1540
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: just keeping inside of me.

1541
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to my world.

1542
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: Have you ever done that? I never known.

1543
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 2: I don't keep it inside me, no, because I don't

1544
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: have a problem expressing anger or crying at all. I'm

1545
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: right there on the edge at all times of any

1546
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: emotion that you could name, willing to serve it up

1547
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 2: with just a little bit of glaze on the top.

1548
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: Because I get ready for screaming Georgia, because she is

1549
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: that your new faith.

1550
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: I'll back you up, girl, Do you guys scream it out.

1551
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: My therapist was so happy, like I could see she

1552
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: was on the edge of her comfy sofa chair. Yeah,

1553
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: and she was like honest, like cheering, and I was like, oh,

1554
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: I'm doing this right. Finally, after two and a half

1555
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: years of therapy.

1556
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: She broke you open.

1557
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: She broke me up. Well, and just so you had

1558
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: a then you got your stuff all over there, all

1559
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: over that chair.

1560
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: I was raised in a household of yellers and confronters always,

1561
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 2: so to me it's not only I mean, I get

1562
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: upset when I know I when I know I'm going

1563
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: to upset other people, or when other people are upset,

1564
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: which then makes me need to get mad so that

1565
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: you don't.

1566
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: Get that out of your feelings. But I still get

1567
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: to do my thing preemptively, like shielding yourself from what's

1568
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: about not even shielding yourself, just like.

1569
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: It's like parental for it, oh, recoil maybe whatever. It

1570
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: just all becomes a thing. But like my dad just

1571
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: saying that because in our family, my dad would answer

1572
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: the phone yelling, so that when people would be like

1573
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: is Karen there, I'd be like, hold on a second,

1574
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: and then I would pick up the phone, and almost

1575
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: like eight out of ten times, my friends would go

1576
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: are you in trouble?

1577
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, no, what are you talking about?

1578
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: Because the volume and the like emotion level in our

1579
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: house was always at eight. So you must have a

1580
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 2: lot of tension, yo, Yes, I have more than my

1581
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 2: fair share of attention. And also that kind of like

1582
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: being when you're criticized all the time or like teased

1583
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 2: all the time, then you have a sensitivity that doesn't

1584
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 2: make sense. It'll come out and it doesn't make sense

1585
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 2: to people when it's because it's kind of like a

1586
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: lifelong raw nerve that if it's like a very random one,

1587
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 2: and then if you touch it, good night.

1588
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: Good night, a fucking mosquito thing and there's malaria, and

1589
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: what the fuck you get the malaria and the mosquito

1590
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: catches on fire? It's exciting mine? Is that a timid nous?

1591
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 1: So I say, you don't get a fucking see my anger,

1592
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it inside me and get gas drone

1593
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: cast smell issues because of my anger. Who's inside of me? Yeah?

1594
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's very common with women. Yeah, because

1595
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: it's not certainly not feminine, considered typically feminine, or in

1596
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 2: any way attractive to be.

1597
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: When I got home from therapy, I had to say

1598
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: to Vince, is it okay that I'm mad at you,

1599
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: like over this thing? Yeah? Like I couldn't even be

1600
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: mad at him. I had to make sure it was okay.

1601
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 2: Well, it's very scary.

1602
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1603
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 2: There's a great book called The Dance of anger not

1604
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:56,560
Speaker 2: to be totally.

1605
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: Weirdy, No, we need a this is a thing.

1606
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 2: Well, this is the book I read, and it's because

1607
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 2: it's this amazing breakdown of how people who are angry

1608
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 2: or use anger what they're actually doing, and because it's

1609
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 2: very intimidating and it's very shocking a lot of times

1610
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: and if you if you do it correctly, you can

1611
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 2: really control people with your emotions to a point.

1612
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: Well bonded that for sure.

1613
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you kind of it's just like that would

1614
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: happen in my house. It is like if you had

1615
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: a complaint, people would just yell you down with their

1616
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 2: bigger complaint. Or if you were angry, they were angry

1617
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: or about something else. So it was just like you

1618
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 2: could never really have the floor because that was a

1619
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 2: very threatening thing to have a problem with, Like the system.

1620
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: It was like unjustified or your anger was compounded because

1621
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 1: they wouldn't listen to it. Yes, it wasn't justify. Your

1622
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: anger wasn't justified in someone else's eyes. Never.

1623
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: And also it was always I was the dramatic one.

1624
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: So it's like, no matter what I was doing, I

1625
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 2: was being over dramatic. Uh so, yeah, that's insanely frustrating.

1626
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: What's Oh, it's called the dance of anger, and it's

1627
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: basically like when angry people shut you down, like it's

1628
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: it's the perfect way to get people to stop doing

1629
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: whatever they're doing because you're intimidating them. But if you

1630
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: can get through that and not be intimidated, you can

1631
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 2: get that angry person actually break open, because there's you

1632
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,919
Speaker 2: paint yourself into a corner when you're like the angry

1633
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 2: shower reactor and you don't.

1634
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: Ever get to learn and grow and all this and.

1635
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 2: And actually like communicate what you really what the real

1636
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: problem is.

1637
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: Well, you show me that too, where it's like when

1638
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 1: I've gotten angry with you, it's like, what's what's really

1639
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: going on? And I want to be like nothing, you

1640
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: fucked up. And then it's like, oh, well, I'm tim

1641
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: I feel sad and intimidated over this thing, and I'm

1642
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: panicking and it's like, oh my god, it's really scary

1643
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: to be vulnerable.

1644
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 2: It's hard that worked, and it's easier to be angry

1645
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: because that's the first it's just like the thing that

1646
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 2: shoots up first. You go with that, maybe double down

1647
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 2: on it, and then you're free and clear because everyone

1648
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 2: backs away.

1649
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: But then for me it's going to car then at

1650
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,520
Speaker 1: that point to come back and be like, well.

1651
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 2: No, yeah, you can't. There's no I mean talk about

1652
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: like rigidity and like you really have to. Then it's

1653
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,560
Speaker 2: like it's like ninety stand up comedy where all we

1654
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 2: did was get like that person sucks, that person sucks,

1655
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: and then suddenly you're like, well then everyone's my enemy.

1656
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: Like yeah, doesn't make sense. It doesn't. Everyone's just trying

1657
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: why do they suck? Yeah?

1658
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: And also really because what you're saying is I suck.

1659
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Crying today was really helpful, and I'm really excited

1660
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: to go in my closet and put a chair in

1661
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 1: the corner and scream at it. I can't wait. That's

1662
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 1: good to be great.

1663
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 2: That's you've got your like your elbows deep in the

1664
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 2: good stuff.

1665
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: This is the first time she's been like here we go,

1666
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why have I been paying you for

1667
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 1: the past two years and you're just gonna tell me

1668
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,480
Speaker 1: to scream it and fucking cry.

1669
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: Because it takes. That's the thing about therapy, Like I

1670
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 2: remember in like year seven with my therapist going ooh,

1671
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: I feel like we just chipped something off, and she's like,

1672
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: that's right. Like we're just chipping away a calcified wall

1673
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 2: of bad ideas that we're pretty soon we're going to

1674
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: get to a door, and then I'm gonna be too

1675
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: scared to open that door.

1676
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: What was so funny to me is last week you

1677
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: and I were having dinner at a place, and then

1678
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I think I'm gonna go to

1679
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: what every other week with my therapist. I think I'm

1680
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: good right now. And then later I was like, yeah,

1681
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 1: my therapist said to me that next week we're gonna

1682
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: get into the deep mom stuff. And you were like,

1683
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: so you're gonna go see her every other week? Huh?

1684
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: It was like so obvious. I was like, I can't

1685
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,520
Speaker 1: deal with that. I'm gonna go not see her anymore.

1686
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 1: And that made me be like, maybe don't not go

1687
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: see her every other weeking, maybe you really fucking need

1688
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: to get into the shit.

1689
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: Sorry, I caught you.

1690
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: I caught your king cock blocked me so hard. I'm

1691
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 1: not seeing my therapist. Thank you, thank you. I'm welcome.

1692
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 1: It's really great today.

1693
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 2: You're welcome.

1694
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: I'm glad. That makes me very happy to hear. Yeah,

1695
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: that's good.

1696
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 2: So those are that's basically how our days go. Yeah,

1697
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: if that's not what we're doing, it's what we're talking about.

1698
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: Therapy is life, man, really And.

1699
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 2: Also what I told George at one point I can't remember,

1700
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 2: we got into a fight about some dumb thing and

1701
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: then after and we had.

1702
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: Great talk about it.

1703
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 2: That's the thing I love the most is that we

1704
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: always have the best talks. We get further along. It

1705
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 2: makes me so happy, sure, and it makes me happy

1706
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 2: to be friends with you.

1707
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: Thank you me too. But growing and learning we really are.

1708
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 2: And I told Georgia, I go right at this point,

1709
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm being paid to maintain a good

1710
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 2: relationship with you. Like that's all we have to do.

1711
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: That's what this podcast is is making sure that. But

1712
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: if like nobody listens and it was just our therapists

1713
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: feeding into like they were all the Twitter people and

1714
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: they were all the like people buying tickets to the

1715
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: shows and she's giving away for free, being like god,

1716
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: they're learning so much.

1717
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 2: Finally, what great therapists. They're really dedicated to us totally,

1718
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,759
Speaker 2: it'd be amazing what we're to hope.

1719
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,719
Speaker 1: You're gonna say that you're being paid to Oh.

1720
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: No, just that joke of like that. That's and also

1721
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: my therapist actually said that to me. She's like, if

1722
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: you can make this relationship with Georgia work, you can

1723
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 2: make any relationship work.

1724
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: Which is of course, after you.

1725
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 2: Get a divorce, you become convinced that you just simply

1726
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 2: can't do it right, and so why try and why uh?

1727
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 2: Why like why go back to, you know, a ground

1728
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: zero type situation and be like, oh, I guess I'll

1729
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: do this again, it up again and be bad at eight.

1730
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: Months or in five years, it'll fucking implode. Yeah, Nope,

1731
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: it could actually work with the right temperament.

1732
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: And the it's like a resilience, equality of resilience and

1733
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 2: equality of being willing to say I made a mistake.

1734
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 2: Can we fix it?

1735
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1736
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 2: That's all.

1737
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what. We're all human, that's right. Uh.

1738
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 3: That was really beautiful.

1739
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: Even kept putting the microphone when he thought it was over,

1740
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: and then we just kept going, can I interrupt you guys?

1741
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: Please stop keep this going? See it was like I wasn't.

1742
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: Can you guys stop not recording?

1743
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 2: It?

1744
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: Got so many more questions should we and on that

1745
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: and play Jessee is murder?

1746
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 5: Or is there a really good one that you want

1747
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 5: to know, there's one good one to end with, okay, okay,

1748
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 5: And then one note because as people were asking what

1749
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 5: my favorite murder was, and it's Selena from episode thirty.

1750
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: Two, it's right my favorite because you remember it as

1751
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: a child.

1752
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it had it had that same kind of impact

1753
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 3: when when people talk about that thing where you saw

1754
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 3: on the TV.

1755
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 1: Or and you grew up in a Mexican American family.

1756
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah, and so you it's just something you talked

1757
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 3: about all the time so well and so shocking.

1758
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so I think about that one a lot too,

1759
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 1: where it's just so unnecessary and so tragic that and

1760
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: so surprising the way it happened. It wasn't a you know,

1761
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 1: a male, rabid male fan. It was just this insanely

1762
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 1: mentally ill woman and it's so unnecessary and sad.

1763
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And at that point of the double tragedy or

1764
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: the extended tragedy of that she was just about to

1765
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 2: potentially cross over and kind of become this Mexican American star.

1766
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,799
Speaker 2: That was like suddenly, it's like these are here's another

1767
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 2: kind of music that you can get into and listen

1768
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: to and hear like she was just she was basically

1769
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 2: on that train of everybody knowing her.

1770
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: A wonderful person.

1771
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 3: Sorry, Stephen, So this is this question. I had to

1772
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 3: print out the email for it because it's sort of

1773
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:18,719
Speaker 3: a hometown as well. The headline is, would you marry

1774
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 3: a serial killer's son? Hello, Karen, Georgia, Stephen and fur

1775
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 3: Babies love the podcast. You hold a special place in

1776
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 3: my heart. I'm really curious to know what each of

1777
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,719
Speaker 3: you would do in this situation. A relative of mine

1778
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 3: met the love of her life and after a whirlwind

1779
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 3: of romance, he sat her down for a serious chat.

1780
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: He said that he would love to have a future

1781
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 3: with her, but before they went any further, she needed

1782
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 3: to know that his father was in jail for killing

1783
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 3: and dismembering a large number of sex workers. Oh no,

1784
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: my relative decided to stay with her man, and they

1785
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 3: are now married with children. I guess the next thing

1786
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 3: to do is decide when to tell her children about

1787
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 3: their grandfather before they can discover it online for themselves.

1788
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: If they choose, what would you do?

1789
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 1: Oh well, I would definitely continue a relationship with that person.

1790
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: They're not responsible for their father's actions and the fact

1791
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: that they they understood the severity of it enough to

1792
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: sit them before it was very you know, before they

1793
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: were in deep let them know because understanding that that's

1794
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: a choice someone would make, that's very mature. Well, also,

1795
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: never hold that against someone.

1796
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would never hold that against anybody. And it's

1797
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 2: that they're actually a victim as well.

1798
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: It's not.

1799
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,839
Speaker 2: If there's anything it would just be like how difficult

1800
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: that would be for a person. It would almost I

1801
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: feel like I would like to think I would have

1802
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 2: even more empathy for that person because they had gone

1803
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 2: through such a serious life challenge and their relationship and

1804
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: I mean everything about that would be so hard for

1805
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 2: that person. I would just feel such deep sadness and

1806
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: empathy for them that it would almost be the opposite

1807
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 2: of like I wouldn't break up with them ever.

1808
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: And as for the kids, I feel like he slowly introduced, like,

1809
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, as they understand what grandma's and grandpas are

1810
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 1: and what about dad's dad, where's Dad's you know, you

1811
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 1: say he did a very bad thing and he's in jail,

1812
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: he's in prison forever for it, or you know, and

1813
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: you slowly let them know, you know what I really

1814
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: give more information to them.

1815
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I realized this, And it's weird that I've

1816
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: never said this before, and I in no way was

1817
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: holding it back. I just kind of mentally like rediscovered

1818
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 2: it recently. But my mother's father died when she was

1819
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: twenty one, so I never knew him. But I found

1820
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 2: out when I was a full grown adult, I think

1821
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: probably in my late twenties. My dad told me he

1822
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,759
Speaker 2: was stabbed to death in a bar fight.

1823
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: Holy shit, and that's how he died. That's how he died.

1824
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 2: But we were always told he died of a heart attack.

1825
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 2: Oh and so it wasn't till much much later, and

1826
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 2: I didn't, like, I didn't know anything about it, but

1827
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: I only realized where I'm like, oh, actually, it's.

1828
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: Not that funny when it's your own thing, you don't it's

1829
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 1: my own thing. But I also don't.

1830
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 2: I have no connection to it except to know, like

1831
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 2: my mother never spoke about it, and she never like

1832
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 2: for the story she kind of put out there was

1833
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 2: like he just died of heart attack, like, don't worry

1834
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 2: about it. And she didn't like him because he was

1835
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: a really bad alcoholic and he had you know, he

1836
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: was he had a lot of problems. Wow, So it

1837
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: was almost just like that's the side of the family

1838
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: you don't talk about as much. I know, it's not weird.

1839
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's my story to tell, but

1840
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: I'll just say that Vince's grandfather he never met, who

1841
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: was a police officer who died in the line of duty,

1842
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 1: and so the grandfather he grew up with was his

1843
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 1: step grandfather. And it's just this like they didn't talk

1844
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:46,919
Speaker 1: about it either. Yeah.

1845
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 2: I feel like more people than you would know, Like

1846
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 2: if you ask people like about the tragedies and their family,

1847
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: you'd be shocked how many have humongous ones that they

1848
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 2: just simply don't discuss.

1849
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: Because they've grown up with it as a secret or

1850
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: as a thing, and nobody will discuss it with them,

1851
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: or them wanting to know more about it is they're

1852
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: they're a bad person for wanting to know more about it.

1853
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: They're opening wounds, or.

1854
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: They're yeah, like it's it's very it's too sensitive, or yeah,

1855
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 2: it's interesting, it's interesting.

1856
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Yeah, ye help good luck with

1857
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 1: that everyone.

1858
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: That was it?

1859
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 3: Yep, that's the Q and A.

1860
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: Wow, it was fun. That was fun. I mean, yeah,

1861
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: I like let's just change the podcast and that's questions

1862
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: for us. You guys, thanks for sending four hundred questions.

1863
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: Oh my god in such a short time.

1864
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: We'll do it again sometime and get for sure get

1865
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 2: other ones.

1866
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: And Stephen, thank you for going through all of those.

1867
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: There are a lot of weird ones.

1868
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 3: No, I mean, yeah, these are some great questions that

1869
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 3: I liked.

1870
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, good job. Those were really good. Yeah, those

1871
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 1: were really good for you. And we're back.

1872
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 2: We were just saying, what a brilliant idea we had

1873
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 2: to stop doing homework for one week and just be

1874
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: able to answer some questions.

1875
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: It's like the guy ran an episode where it was like,

1876
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: oh great, someone else has to do the heavy lifting,

1877
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: and this one it's Stephen. Like we said, ask for

1878
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: questions and then go find them. We didn't even have

1879
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: to find the questions ourselves. Steven, yep.

1880
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: Stephen fully arranged the entire situation. And then it was

1881
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: just fun because then it was like a little bit

1882
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 2: of a conversation.

1883
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: And I got to talk about myself. There is a

1884
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: moment here that has stuck with me about Stephen. That's like,

1885
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, the soft spot I have in my heart

1886
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 1: for him, one of those things includes the fact that

1887
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: the murder of Selena is his top, you know, favorite murder,

1888
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: and that it's the one that I always stuck with him.

1889
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,520
Speaker 1: And I's just like, yeah, it's so sweet. It's so sweet.

1890
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: It's so Stephen.

1891
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it really is. He's a beautiful angel and

1892
01:26:58,320 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 2: a great Texter.

1893
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: And what's spoke for dark last text from Stephen open

1894
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: your fucking phone right now, and let's we have a

1895
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: last text exchange from Stephen. Do it go?

1896
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 2: Hold up good. Mine's from Wednesday, September tenth. It says, Karen,

1897
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: I went to the opening of the Jaws exhibit at

1898
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 2: the Academy Museum.

1899
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: You have to go.

1900
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 2: It was great getting to see lots of original props.

1901
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 2: And then there's a picture of fucking Steven Spielberg speaking

1902
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 2: at a podium while it says Jaws exhibition and an

1903
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: orchestra like, so Steven's in the audience for this incredible

1904
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 2: like Jaws fiftieth anniversary. And before that, it was hope

1905
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 2: the tour goes well and you have a great show

1906
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 2: on our first night.

1907
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: Okay, love your Stephen text. I mean, it's so Steven,

1908
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: it's so Stephen. If the audio sounds different, by the way.

1909
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because we had a major WiFi meltdown.

1910
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're picking back up.

1911
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 2: It's a different day, it's a different reality, but.

1912
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: Still pretend it's real. It sounds better. It sounds so

1913
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: much better. Steven sent me a photo of his cat,

1914
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 1: Penny Lane. That's my last interaction with him. I said,

1915
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: what a sweet angel, and then he gave me an

1916
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: update on her new diet, food and meds. Can I

1917
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: see her picture? That cat is so cute. She's such

1918
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: a cute little orange.

1919
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 2: She's a dainty orange tabby. I like a new segment

1920
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 2: text from Stephen.

1921
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, rewind why not, Steven?

1922
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 2: He always gives them, we might as well turn them

1923
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 2: into content. Okay, so now we're back into this episode.

1924
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 2: It's the Q and A episode. This is now a

1925
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 2: hometown story from your friend and mine hilarious comedian Jesse Pop.

1926
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: We have a quick hometown that this is a murder.

1927
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: I've always I saw this one years ago on like

1928
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: a dateline or some stuff that I couldn't do because

1929
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: it was kind of one of those small ones. But

1930
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: then I found out and I met Vince that Vince

1931
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,879
Speaker 1: is one of Vince's best friends, Jesse Pop, was directly

1932
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: connected to this murder. Wow. Yeah, And so Jesse Pop

1933
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 1: fucking hilarious comedian. He just came out with his new

1934
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: album called I'm the Best, which is so funny. If

1935
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: you know Jesse Pop, that that's it's just so hilarious.

1936
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: Him in a RoboCop costume.

1937
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 2: He actually really wore to a Halloween.

1938
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 1: Party at the bar. But he's like got a solo company.

1939
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: He's drunkcause he's just such a funny person. And I

1940
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: watched the live taping of this comedy album, and my

1941
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: fucking got He's one of the best joke writers I've

1942
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 1: ever heard.

1943
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 2: He's among the comedy community. He's known as one of

1944
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: the best stand ups there is. Yeah, so it's an

1945
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 2: album worth buying.

1946
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, I'm the Best. It's on iTunes and

1947
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: all the places you buy stuff. And so here is

1948
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 1: Jesse Pop's hometown. Wait a, let me for speaker.

1949
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, this is my hometown murder. About six

1950
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 4: seven years ago, I was living in New York and

1951
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Speaker 4: I ran out of money, so I went back home

1952
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Speaker 4: to Michigan. We got a job at the Locals Apple orchard.

1953
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Speaker 4: There and I was just kind of like, you know,

1954
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Speaker 4: right a tractor and you know, doing shit you could

1955
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Speaker 4: do when you don't know a farm. But there was

1956
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Speaker 4: just one kid there, and I talked to him a

1957
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Speaker 4: few times and he kind of, I mean, he wasn't

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Speaker 4: He just struck me as a little squirrely, nothing too crazy.

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Speaker 4: And then I asked a few people about to be

1960
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Speaker 4: just like shooting the ship is like so so at

1961
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Speaker 4: the side of this kid there, I got he's nice

1962
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Speaker 4: in all this, and it didn't really stick in my mind.

1963
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Speaker 4: And then you know, I saved up some money, went

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Speaker 4: back to New York. And then a year later, this

1965
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Speaker 4: kid got arrested for murdering his mom. Thought, oh, that's

1966
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Speaker 4: well crazy, And then turns out what was going on

1967
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Speaker 4: is she the mom was schizophrenic and bipolar and also

1968
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Speaker 4: very very religious and wasn't taking her medicine because she

1969
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Speaker 4: thought it was sorcery, and she had gotten so start

1970
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Speaker 4: gone she was like stashing knives in her head toward it,

1971
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Speaker 4: but like tracking devices in her bloodstream and all this,

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Speaker 4: and also the dad had started stepping out. And there's

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Speaker 4: also like a little before the murder, she had been

1974
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Speaker 4: arrested for strangling this kid because he was trying to

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Speaker 4: get her to dig her medicine. And then also he

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Speaker 4: had a younger sister who the mom was homeschooling still

1977
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Speaker 4: for some reason. So they're walking then, and even all

1978
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Speaker 4: the news would be like, you know, you know, the

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Speaker 4: perfect family, which is not what was going on anyway.

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Speaker 4: So it's a very briskly scene. I guess where there

1981
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Speaker 4: no one broke in most signs of force and certainly things.

1982
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Speaker 4: Someone took it two by four and basically bashed her

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Speaker 4: head open a bunch of times, and then took a

1984
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Speaker 4: knife fit stature in the throat a bunch of times,

1985
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Speaker 4: and there's blood and stuff. And this kid said that

1986
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Speaker 4: he had been to Elbi was that he had been

1987
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Speaker 4: planning bushes for a neighbor lady who was turned out

1988
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Speaker 4: not to be true. And then he punched into work

1989
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 4: and his hands were all fucked up, and he told

1990
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 4: people this for moving palace, which moving palace doesn't really

1991
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Speaker 4: get your hands away. That his work. So we get

1992
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Speaker 4: arrested and he convicted because you know, people were screaming

1993
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Speaker 4: him and saying there's no way he did it could

1994
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Speaker 4: be so nice, and but he got arrested. He's going

1995
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Speaker 4: to do at least I think twenty or thirty years

1996
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Speaker 4: or something. And I am so if you managed it,

1997
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Speaker 4: don't chill your mom.

1998
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Speaker 1: Nice, That's exactly right, Jesse your medicine and don't kill

1999
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 1: your mom please. The other thing he didn't mention in

2000
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 1: that the apple orchard was his sister, Jesse's sister's apple orchard.

2001
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, and I've been there, Spicers, and I

2002
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:41,559
Speaker 1: had a fucking apple cider donut in Michigan. Oh my god,

2003
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: the best. This took me there in Michigan and it

2004
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: was amazing. Uh So in time, I know, did you

2005
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 1: ever see the like twenty twenty or forty eight hours

2006
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 1: about that one?

2007
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Speaker 2: This story sounds familiar, But as I was listening to

2008
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 2: him tell it, I was like, is it familiar because

2009
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 2: he told it to me?

2010
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: Because sometimes he'll wear the Spicer's Apple Orchard T shirt? Yeah,

2011
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 1: what is it? Is he an ironic hip story? He's like, no,

2012
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Speaker 1: I used to fucking work here. Wow. That was a

2013
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 1: great way to end a really fun question. Now wow,

2014
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: next h Minnesot hometown murder, I'll play my uncle's Oh yeah,

2015
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 1: they're in gas situation. Amazing, I know, I love it.

2016
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: Thanks Jesse that Jesse pop by his album I'm the Best.

2017
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: I'm the Best. Vince April, my husband, put it out

2018
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 1: on his record label. What's his record label called. It's

2019
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 1: called Capsule Records. What if I fucking didn't know?

2020
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 2: I know?

2021
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, emotion of like thinking of

2022
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 1: the sure cut this.

2023
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 2: Okay, we're back. Are there any updates on the story?

2024
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: There actually are. So the Jeffrey Pine case was covered

2025
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 1: on A forty eight Hours in an episode called The

2026
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 1: Perfect Family. They also did a follow up segment asking

2027
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: if the way his mom was killed proved premeditation. CBS

2028
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 1: News ran a series of articles during his trial and

2029
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 1: after the verdict, and it is such a sad case,

2030
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 1: just terrible. Yeah, and Jesse lived it, yeah, right in

2031
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 1: his world.

2032
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 2: That's like a reality shifting experience to have to know about.

2033
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: That as in childhood.

2034
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so let's talk about the title a little

2035
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 2: bit easier. Originally this episode was called Q and DNA, but.

2036
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Maybe if we're nading it today, based on something we've

2037
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,440
Speaker 1: said in the episode, we would call it nothing more flexible,

2038
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: like a tattoo.

2039
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 2: Or God willing, which is Georgia joking that it'll be

2040
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 2: my birthday when this episode comes out.

2041
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 1: God willing, I love an inappropriate God Willing, And then

2042
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 1: we could also do excuses for why I can't go out.

2043
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: I love it. I mean to this moment, to this moment.

2044
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thanks for listening, and we're going to

2045
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: say goodbye to you from way back in twenty seventeen

2046
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 1: in the podlaf Oh, well that was awesome. Thank you

2047
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 1: Steven for that doing that.

2048
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and thank you guys for sending in those questions.

2049
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,719
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. Stay sexy and don't get murdered.

2050
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 1: Bye bye, Elvis. You're sitting right here. Do you want

2051
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:19,759
Speaker 1: to cook? You it right? He poked his head.

2052
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 2: Into the microphone up like a voiceover actor, and me

2053
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 2: out into the microphone.

2054
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 1: You're the best, Good job, bubby. Bye.

2055
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 2: Hilarious.

2056
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 3: It's time to shine