1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast you can drop mad bars 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: on a rap verse. Maybe. Welcome to another edition of 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by the United States 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Marine Corps. My name is Dan and is coming to 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: you from a room called the Some Heroes. Mark Sessler, 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenhal, What is up, my boys? You know, on 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: the list of hosts on this show, I'd like to 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: hear rap Mark, you would you would top the list. 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: I want to hear what you would do. We've heard it, 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I you know that's true that you forgot 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: about my smash hit from what feels like seventeen years 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: ago but really only a couple of months ago about 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: a foreign kingdom. Yes, that that was stellar. Please look 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: it up. If you haven't heard it yet, go dig 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: through our archive until you find Mark rapping. This is 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: the Week nine preview edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: It happens, um, you know, the ring a very interesting 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: time in our country, uh, during the election process, as 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: is that it continues to unfold, and we're you know, 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: we're here to to put your focus somewhere else. Of course, 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: now there's a global pandemic also going on that has 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: caused wreaking havoc in the NFL. So even that even 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: this bastion that we are supposed to have is somehow 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: affected by these serious real world problems. But listen, Greg, 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: we don't need to dwell on the negative side of life. 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Let's let's skew positive. No taping this show, I could 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: use ninety minutes or whatever it's gonna be of not 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: refreshing the internet, so hopefully the listeners can do the same. 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys are talking about. Things 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: feel light and airy. Um. I think that there's a 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, the burgeoning sense of freedom and optimism, so 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, and I know my party line. There are 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: some you know, conspiracies out there floating around, which I 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: know you love conspiracies, Mark, I don't know if you 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: love the ones that are prominent right now in our culture. 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: But my conspiracy is like, when's the last time I 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: had e NN on my TV for nineteen hours a 38 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: day for three straight days. This is being dragged out 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: in a way that is really helping certain networks, and uh, 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: you know that's the thing I'm keeping my eye on. 41 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: Who's really involved. Still has Greg still has NFL network 42 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: lockdown in his house. I mean, who who can be 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: Andrew Siciliano. He's not touching. I like that Dan is 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 1: going the the Aisha Curry route, throwing, throwing the conspiracy 45 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: that you know, lengthening the things for the ratings. Come on? 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: Is that a Curry is out there dropping those? Yeah? 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: She had a famously terrible tweet when the Warriors weren't 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: getting some calls in the finals. Oh oh yeah, now 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: I do remember that. Yes, good call, Greg. All right, 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: let's get into Week nine action and start with the 51 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: game of the week Sunday Night Football. Oh my goodness, 52 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: Saints and Bucks. What a showdown between the Bucks team 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: that everyone is loving, uh, even though they even look 54 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: so hot against the jihnts of Monday Night. But you 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: give him a little bit of a pay us uh 56 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: and the Saints, who are on a winning streak and 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: they look like a team that's ready to take control 58 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: of the division potentially. What are you thinking about in 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: this game, Greg, I'm looking at when the Bucks have 60 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: the ball, when they go on one of their long 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: drives and that's what they do inside the ten yard line. 62 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: Is there any chance the Saints stopped them? The Stints 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Saints have the very worst red zone defense in the 64 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: entire league, and Tom Brady and these Bucks are twenty 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: two for twenty two when they get inside the ten, 66 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: which is just an absolutely outrageous stature. And to me, 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: that tells you you have an amazing offensive line. I 68 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: just I know I've mentioned it on the show, but 69 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: I just don't think people appreciate how it's the key 70 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: to this entire Bucks team. It's why they can survive 71 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: with Chris Godwin out of the lineup. Maybe they get 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: him back this week, probably not, but they do get 73 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. I trust their running game and if Tom 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: Brady has time, he's gonna carve you up. When he's pressured, 75 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: he hit. The numbers say he's literally a below average 76 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: starting quarter back. So right now, I don't necessarily trust 77 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: the Saints to get pressure on him. I know my 78 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: guy Marcus Davenport to first. I don't see here Saints 79 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: Twitter honking about him anymore now that he's playing outstanding, 80 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: But I don't think he's quite enough. You need more. 81 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: You need Cameron Jordan, you need the other guys to 82 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: step up, and I think it's a mismatch. When Tampa 83 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: has the ball near the end zone. Mark. Yeah. I 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: mean we saw the Giants get to Tom Brady a 85 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: little bit. I mean they had to work themselves out 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of of a funk against New York. 87 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: But I just start to trust this team more and more. 88 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: And you know, Greg, you mentioned like the metrics, love 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: the bucks. What's not to love. I feel like they 90 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: are morphing into something bizarre and wonderful week after week. 91 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: And they are they are. This is a this is 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: an interesting battle. I mean because Rob Gronkowski back in 93 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 1: Week one, this team was not ready for not ready 94 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: to go against the Saints the same way. This is 95 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: not the Rob Gronkowski that fought in the Andre the 96 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: Giant Memorial battle Royale. Okay, this is this is the 97 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski We've seen a bold to some degree. And 98 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: you talk about the red zone. He was a threat 99 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: against New York. He's becoming a threat week after week. 100 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: I think it's three games in a row with touchdown passes. 101 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: Scottie Miller is starting to become juicy. Mike Evans I 102 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: could see a little bit more of him, But you know, 103 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: and I don't like this. I don't like that this 104 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: is happening. But Antonio Brown is getting dished into the mix. 105 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys, they're all starting to contribute. It's 106 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: the Tom Brady aura. And they've talked about it that 107 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line, the way that they win games that 108 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: they a year ago would have lost, that's the Tom 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: Brady factor. And I think that if you're Bruce Arians, 110 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: you're thinking right now these Saints, you can unferl an 111 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: error arrow into New Orleans and you can separate in 112 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: the NFC South. And I'm telling you this is this 113 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: is something that the Bucks have not done, Greg since 114 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: I think you were in that experimental phase back at 115 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: two lane. You had an experimental phase in two lane, 116 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: Greg guess or no, I mean at two lane. After that, 117 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: I'm still still experimenting. Uh. I want to see Drew 118 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: Brees with his actual compliment of wide receivers. I don't 119 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: know if if it's ever gonna happen, but he's happened 120 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: this week. Okay, let's let's see. I mean, I feel 121 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: like I'm conditioned at this point just to always assume 122 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: Michael Thompson is going to be ruled out at some point, uh, 123 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: several minutes before the game. But Michael Thomas no Marcus 124 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: Callaway last week. No Emmanuel Sanders last week, and yes, 125 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: and we talked about this last week. I understand he 126 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: again did not attack the attack Chicago downfield. It was 127 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: his first outdoors game, So that's gonna feed into this 128 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: narrative that Drew Brees can no longer play the guitar 129 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: at a high level when it really counts. But also 130 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: it's like, maybe not enough as made of the fact 131 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: that Drew Brees beat a good Bears team without any 132 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: of his wide receivers essentially, and it's basically just leaning 133 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: on Alvin Kamara, who is absolutely I think in the running. 134 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: I know you hate this award, Greg Offensive Player of 135 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: the Year. I mean, it's a silly award. Why Why 136 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: what's the difference between m v P and offensive player here? 137 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I guess it's just like to 138 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: give a running back some love because we know they're 139 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: not as valuable as quarterbacks, except for on the Saints. 140 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: It's like all, uh, like, running backs don't matter except 141 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: Alvin Camara. He has nine eight seven yards. No one 142 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: else on the Saints has more than four hundred yards 143 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: receiving a rushing I mean, he's more than Duffle, it's 144 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: outrageous and I actually think it's a tricky matchup when 145 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: the Saints and Bucks play, because I know you beat 146 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: the Bucks by going over the top. That's not Drew 147 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: Brees thing. But you can see them going on a 148 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: lot of long drives against this team. Because like you said, 149 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: I think Sanders is back, and I think Thomas and 150 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: maybe Callaway are back to this week. Then I mean 151 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: in Bruce Arians, he looked at Alvin Kamara and said, 152 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: I see someone more fierce than Marshall Falk. Now that's 153 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: that's saying something. I know these coaches like to pump 154 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: up like the main player on the opposite on the 155 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: opposing team after week after week. Who's fallen for that? 156 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: But it's not it's legit with Alvin Kamara, he has 157 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 1: played beautifully. He is a Hall of Fame level level player, 158 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: just like Marshall fuck is a Hall of Famer. So 159 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: I don't think he's one of those guys where you're 160 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: you're building a guy up so you can chop him 161 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: down with a game plan that's key to beat him. 162 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: I think when Kamara is right, and I know he's 163 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a foot issue, this week, 164 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: But it seems like everything is all systems go. When 165 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: he's right, he's just he's gonna make plays. And he's 166 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: basically a lock now for for a hundred yards from scrimmage, 167 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: and he's gonna beat you in the passing game a 168 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: couple of times. Uh. He's just really fun to watch 169 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: and it reminds you how tough it was to watch 170 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: him last year when all those injuries had slowed him 171 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: to the point where he wasn't making guys miss. Let's 172 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: pick this game. Yeah, and the offensive line deserves a 173 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: lot of credit too. And and that's why I do 174 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: wonder if this I think the Saints are going to 175 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: keep this game close. I know the Bucks are heavy favorites. Um, 176 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: it's the biggest game in the NFC South all year. 177 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest games that we have for 178 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the year because whichever team wins has 179 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: a significant advantage. Either the Bucks open up some distance 180 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: or the Saints just swept the Bucks. And that's a 181 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: huge advantage for them too. And if there's one little 182 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: fly in the appointment for the Bucks, it's actually their 183 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 1: past rush like JPP and Shack Barrett. They got the 184 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: big names. They're not quite getting it done this year, 185 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: and so if you give Drew Brees a little time, 186 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: you could have those long drives. I would expect a 187 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: very close game. Seems like each week Devin White makes 188 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: up for a little bit of the pass rush with 189 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: some sort a phenomenal play that blows up quarterback, running 190 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: back or somebody. And you'll do it again to you. 191 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: Dan the Desert says they're high on the Bucks, which 192 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: surprised me. Let's pick the game here, Greg, I'm I'm 193 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: going Bucks, but just by three points. All right, Mark, 194 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Bucks. I think they'll 195 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: win it by a touchdown. There's no way to come 196 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: out of is swept by New Orleans. I'm with you. 197 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: I like the Bucks in this a lot. I think 198 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna take care of business at home, with all 199 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: due respect to the Saints, who are gonna be around 200 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: in the end. All right, Sunday night football in the can. 201 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: Now we start our draft for Sunday, the late and 202 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: early games. Mark, you get us going the precious first 203 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: overall pick. And I like a little bit of NFL 204 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: history with my top overall picks, so I'm gonna go 205 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: Baltimore Indianapolis. Anyone who isn't five years old should know 206 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: that the Indianapolis Cults were once the Baltimore Cults and 207 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. Well, they came from somewhere else, Cleveland, 208 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: and they came to Baltimore, So this is there's there's 209 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: a lot of that going on. I like that this 210 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: game has another special appeal that if you know me, 211 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: I am tracking this as what should be the quickest 212 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: game of the week. Uh. Baltimore ranks in the bottom 213 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: ten of plays per game. They like to run the ball. Obviously, 214 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: they are air challenged right now. The Cults ranked twentieth 215 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: in that category. They can't run very well, but they 216 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: like to eat up the clock as well. So I 217 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: see a methodical game between two teams that really it's 218 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: strength on strength. Because the Cults, I know, I think 219 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: their defense was a little inflated early in the year 220 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: against some weaker opponents. I'm not ready to call them 221 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: like a top five defense. But with Darius Leonard back, 222 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: they are completely different. Last week against Detroit he had 223 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: he had a game changing strip sack. I think he's 224 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: a big factor against the Ravens. Team that has offensive 225 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: line issues right now. They are missing their left tackle, 226 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley. Tyree Phillips is on I are the right guards, 227 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: so they've got issues there. They've got a bunch of 228 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: linebackers dealing with Corona stuff and having them hopefully, you know, 229 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: get in maybe a Saturday practice before the game. That's 230 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: a little messy. But if there's a team I trust 231 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: to come out ready to go, it's the Ravens and 232 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: and probably furious after that Steelers game. They did run 233 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: the ball in the second half against Pittsburgh really well, 234 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: two hundred plus yards. That's who they are. I trust 235 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: them to go and challenge Indian every way on that front. 236 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard might be the secret sauce for the Colts 237 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: to slow that down. Am I crazy to think that 238 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens are a team that I'm gonna lock up 239 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: right now? I'm going to the producer for a little 240 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: bit of a loop because something else. But I just 241 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: got that feeling Ravens They're not gonna lose two weeks 242 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: in a row here. And the reason that that happens 243 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: because I could feel I could sense you getting more 244 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: and more animated and excited, and then when you do 245 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: end you're a point was saying, Am I crazy? That 246 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: means you're really strongly So it was all there. All 247 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: the bread crumbs are there. I kind of all the lock. 248 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: I like it. I I thought about it myself because 249 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens, obviously they're coming off a game where they're 250 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: really upset. They blow a ten point lead to their rival. 251 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Lamar plays poorly with the four turnovers, and you and 252 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: Marcis Brown is upset, and you know you lose your 253 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: left tackle and now your your star corner Marlon Humphrey 254 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: obviously he tests positive for the coronavirus. There's a really 255 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: bad week, but good teams, uh that are well coached 256 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: tend to bounce back well for really bad weeks. And 257 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: can I say Greg that I am totally on board 258 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: with the Indianapolis Colts. I'm starting to get there, mostly 259 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: because Phil Rivers is playing a lot better than the 260 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks in my opinion. But at the 261 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: same time, that game against the Lions, that's a team 262 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: game with the lines driving for the go ahead score 263 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: late in the third quarter before Darius Leonard makes that 264 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: big time play. But so this team hasn't been dominant 265 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: really all season. No, I'm not all the way there. 266 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: I picked them to win the Super Bowl just has 267 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: a bit of wish casting, and I don't really feel 268 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: that confident in them. This is a show me something 269 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: game though, for both teams. I mean the Ravens they 270 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: lost last week, but they have to feel good that 271 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: they played their best half of football by far of 272 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: the entire season against Pittsburgh in the first half, and 273 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: uh made some mental errors. They've had some injuries go 274 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: against them. It's to show me something game from Philip 275 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: Rivers though, more than anyone. Like we know now after 276 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: the last two games against some pretty bad teams who 277 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: can't rush the passer, who plays zone defense, the Bengals 278 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: and the lines. Okay, uh, Philip Rivers can still carve 279 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: up bad defenses and we didn't know that like that. 280 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: That is important Canny carve up the Ravens because the 281 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: Ravens defense is better on balance this season than they 282 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: were a year ago. They have not fallen back defensively, 283 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: and they're not gonna let Philip Rivers just sit back 284 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: there and pick them apart like he did the last 285 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So it's a big time test for 286 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: their offensive line, their protection issues, because it worries me 287 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: as a Philip Rivers backer that they've got no running game. 288 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: Their fourth in the league UH in net yards per 289 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: tempt passing, they're dead last in yards per carry rushing. 290 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: So Philip Rivers is really carrying this team in a 291 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: way offensively I did not expect and I don't necessarily 292 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: think it's very sustainable. So I'm with you on this lock. 293 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm not making it my lock, but like Dan I 294 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: I it was kind of my backup lock. So there's 295 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: a little info. And know they lost Marlon Mack obviously 296 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: early in the season to that achilles injury, and that's terrible. 297 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: But you know, when you have an offensive line that 298 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: the Colts have. We we talked about this offensive line 299 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: in hushed tones. You would think the running game would 300 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: be able to get going. May have Jonathan Taylor, who 301 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people like as a prospect. There should 302 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: be guys that are able to make plays, but it 303 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. And I'm I kind of on the 304 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: same page in the sense that like, all right, Philip 305 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: Rivers playing better and he's been a lot more efficient 306 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: and it's cutting down on the mistakes the last couple 307 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: of weeks. But do you want uh, nearly thirty nine 308 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: year old Philip Rivers, like anchoring your offense at the 309 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: stage that doesn't seem like a Super Bowl recipe. Wasn't 310 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: that supposed to be the whole thing? They weren't gonna 311 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: do to Philip Rivers. You know, we we're gonna, We're 312 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: gonna put you in this great environment. I would ask 313 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: from the other side, because there's just as much pressure 314 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson, and I think he was pretty down 315 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: on himself after that game, you know, with what happened 316 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: through the air, and you've got Markue's Hollywood Brown tweeting, 317 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: and then you know the coach is going out to 318 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: Mark's Hollywood Brown saying please delete that tweet. Not helpful, 319 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, talking about I need to be a soldier 320 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: and be involved in the in the whole process. Like 321 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: do we see some forced passes? Maybe two Brown out 322 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: of the gate? Um. I just can see that that's 323 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: the way the NFL works sometimes, unhappy player, squeaky wheel, 324 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: We address it, we get that out of the way. 325 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: We move into what we are, which is a run 326 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: heavy team. That's what they are. Very well to go 327 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: deep against. Right it's a tough team to go deep 328 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: against too, this Colts team, and in Lamar right now, 329 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: the you know the book on him coming into this season. 330 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: Can you get better outside the numbers? Right now he 331 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: is second to last and completion percentage outside the numbers 332 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: only better than Mitchell Trobinski. So that's partly skewed because 333 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: they go deep so often, it's not going to be 334 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: a high percentage. But he needs to be more consistent. 335 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: This is one of the toughest matchups he has had 336 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: against this cold step So we all like the Ravens, 337 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: but yes, show me something game and Lamar, what does 338 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson have after what happened against Pittsburgh? This is 339 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: a good one. You know. I'm thinking about it a 340 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: little bit more because I get it right. The offensive 341 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: Player of the Year things annoying. What about if you 342 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: made it playmaker of the Year and then it's wide receivers, 343 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: tight ends, running backs all in the grouping thing. I 344 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: don't like it. Sometimes the quarterbacks win both and it's 345 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: the same quarterback, and then some years it's not. It 346 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: doesn't really have any rhyme or reason. I just see 347 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: it as like Best Picture, Best Director, and it's like, okay, 348 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: we kind of like to so we're gonna give one 349 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: to one of you and one to the other, and 350 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: it's quarterbacks probably getting MVP. Um all right, I am 351 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: up next in the draft. There's a no brain for me. 352 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: I was hoping I would get the chance to take 353 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: Seattle at Buffalo. Uh. Seahawks obviously coming off a win 354 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: where you saw some progress on both sides of the ball, 355 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: which they kind of needed. And the Bills, listen, they 356 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: beat the Patriots, and uh, that's important for that franchise. 357 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: It was the first time they beat New England in 358 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: their building in Orchard Park in nine years, which is insane. 359 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: But that just tells you the dominance of the Patriots 360 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: over the past two decades and how that's changing. However, however, 361 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: are the Bills okay right now? That's a very honest 362 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 1: question to ask. So I will set this game up 363 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: for you, gentlemen, with an old game that we like 364 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: called who do you Trust? And here you go, who 365 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: do you trust? Josh Allen and the Bill's offense right 366 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: now against what's been a historically bad Seattle defense for 367 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: most of the year or a Seattle defense that now 368 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: is getting back Jamal Adams most likely UH to string 369 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: together a second straight solid performance after doing the thing 370 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: against the Niners in Week eight. Mm hmmm. It's a 371 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: tough one. Who do you trust. I'm gonna go with 372 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Josh Allen and the Bills, But 373 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't I don't feel great about it last week. 374 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: I think you can kind of throw away UH in 375 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: terms of their deep passing because the winds were so crazy. 376 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: I actually think that was the s offensive game against 377 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: the Patriots for a while. This matchup UH sets up 378 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: very differently. I think you attack Seattle through the air. 379 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: The weather is gonna be fine in Buffalo. I I 380 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: see the Bills as kind of finding their level that 381 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: they were never a top five offense. People we got, 382 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: we got a little over excited. They are also aren't 383 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: like the twenty eight ranked scoring offense, which if you 384 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: do the numbers over the last month, that's what they are. 385 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: I think against Seattle, even with Jamal Adams and Carlos 386 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: dunlop back, I think they're a solid passing team. I 387 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: trust them a little more, and I need more than 388 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: one game out of Seattle. Being good against three quarters 389 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: of a hobbled up Jimmy Garoppolo to go, uh, you know, 390 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: give them any lollipops? What about you, Mark Well? I mean, 391 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: I think the Bills offense has just kind of changed. 392 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: They started as a top ten, you know, pass heavy attack, 393 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: you know, through the first month of September four games 394 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: or so, and they're now, you know, top ten in running. 395 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: And I know last week was you know, weather impacted, 396 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: but I think that's a positive to the Devin singletary. 397 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: And you've got Zeke Moss back. He played really well 398 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: last week. And Josh Allen, I mean they piled up 399 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: two hundred yards against a Patriots defense that we used 400 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: to like. I don't think that is the same defense 401 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: right now. So I trust Seattle's defense with Jamal Adams 402 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: back because it's environmental to Seattle is gonna go score 403 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: a ton of points on a Buffalo defense that isn't 404 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: the same either. I mean, basically, at this point, we've 405 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: said it week after week. You know, there are like 406 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: twenty five defenses in the NFL that I don't trust, 407 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: and there's those teams are still winning games. So do 408 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: I trust Josh Allen to suddenly turn it back and 409 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: catch on fire and hang with Seattle. No, I do not. 410 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: So you trust the Seattle defense here. I trust Seattle's 411 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: defense to do enough to keep Buffalo at bay. Buffalo 412 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: is not gonna explode here and be the story of 413 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: the game offensively. So for the reasons Greg said the Seahawks, 414 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: they deserve credit because I've been waiting all year for 415 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: them to have a game where the defense plays an 416 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: active role in a win. So you get it against 417 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: the Nineties. But it's also like, you know, we saw 418 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: there was a an apocalyptic situation for San Francisco where 419 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: Garoppolo reinders his ankle, George Kittle goes out, uh and 420 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: you had him on the road and they just basically 421 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: folded up ten. So I'm not there yet where I 422 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: could trust them, even with Jamal Adams there, because Adams 423 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: is a gifted playmaker, but he also was playing defense 424 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks the first three weeks when they were 425 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: getting torched at that stretch of the season as well, 426 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: So I'll go with the I trust the Bills and 427 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: Josh Allen maybe not so much, but I trust the offense. 428 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: The running game was a real problem for the Bills 429 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: and UH in the first few weeks maybe not a 430 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: problem because they were just leaning so heavily on the 431 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: past with Josh Allen, but they were entered. They were 432 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: twenty nine in football and rushing entering week eight. But 433 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: they put together back to back season best performances now 434 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: with that running back tandem. So I'm expecting them to 435 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: continue to run the ball well and maybe that sets 436 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen up to bounce back and have a nice 437 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: statistical game. I kind of like the Bills here. M hmmm, 438 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: I do, okay, I disagree. I'd say like there's a 439 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: little fact are called Carlos Dunlap. I know that people 440 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: think maybe he's not the same guy. I think he's 441 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: a good fit for Seattle. Brings a little pass rush 442 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: you throw that the pass frus comes through Jamal Adams 443 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: on that team. So it's just it's two players that 444 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: they didn't have a week ago, and who is who 445 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: is stopping Seattle's offense. I know that's not either or here, 446 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: but it's just that Seattle can withstand all sorts of 447 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: influx inflictions to its defense, right, That's the thing. I 448 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: trust Russell Wilson and DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. It's 449 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: like an experiment right now, how far can three players 450 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: carry the other fifty that are on the active roster. 451 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: It's Russ, it's Locket, it's DK Metcalf against Bill's defense 452 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: that hasn't showed me much of anything. I know, you've 453 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: got Matt Milano back. You guys think that he's just 454 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna save everything, but it's just one player that's not 455 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna change everything. And that's why I'm locking up the 456 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: Seahawks on the road. I like it. That's where I 457 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: almost went. And this is notable because Greg has started 458 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: the season with eight consecutive locks, which is ah It's 459 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: history for our podcast. So when he bets, it doesn't 460 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: bet when he picks a team right now, you better listen. 461 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: And now I'm not feeling so good. But remember, people 462 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: of Western New York, that the old Zeuser has got 463 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: your back. I picked the Bills all right. Up next 464 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: in the Old Zeus with the Jets fan, He's got 465 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: your back, Buffalo. But no, it even shows more than 466 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm all about picking what I like, uh in a game, 467 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: and I think the Bill's got it all right? Greg, 468 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: you're up all right? I'm so glad to be watching 469 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: a little Cardinals versus Dolphins in the late afternoon window. 470 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: Was hoping this would be available for me because too 471 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: much of the season and it's one of the most 472 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: surprising things about in the NFL has been predictable. If 473 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: you go look at the preseason predictions, all the teams 474 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: that were supposed to be good are good. All the 475 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: teams that are supposed to be bad pretty much are bad. 476 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: It's been kind of a chalk year, you know, except 477 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: these two teams. These two teams are very different than 478 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: they were in twenty nineteen, and there are a lot better. 479 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: The Dolphins, I'm I'm fascinated by even before they went 480 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: to t a tongue of viola, because Brian Flores is 481 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: a rare defensive coach now who gets wins with his scheme. 482 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: I mean, he cooked up Jared Goff. He was so 483 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: aggressive in that game. It reminded me also of the 484 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: forty Niners game, where at their very best, the Dolphins 485 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: can look unbeatable. It's kind of like a Kyle Shanahan 486 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: type of edge on offense, where there's some weeks where 487 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: he just brings the heat and there's nothing you can 488 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: do about it, at least if you're Jared Goff. Now, 489 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: is that approach gonna work against Kyler Murray. Probably not. 490 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: But if you if you watch one game a year 491 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: ago against the Cardinals where Kyler Murray really struggled with 492 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: the blitz, he's also a guy who wants to have 493 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: get rid of the ball quickly, wants to know what 494 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: he's looking at, and you're gonna have to run the 495 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: ball if you're Kyler Murray and the Cardinals. So to me, 496 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: it's a fascinating matchup, especially when Arizona has the ball. 497 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: I think it's it's like they gave up four hundred 498 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: and fifty yards to the Rams, but they also like 499 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: caused complete and total havoc. To your point, Greg, I 500 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: think that if you're facing the Rams for the rest 501 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: of the season, you look at what Brian Flores and 502 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: that defense did and you copy it because you gave 503 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: basically instructions on how to neutralize the Los Angeles quarterback. 504 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: In Miami is a mentally tough team. They won that 505 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: game with Jachem Grant on special teams. It was their defense, 506 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: it was their past rush, and it kind of overshadowed 507 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: the fact that to uh, you know, and we want 508 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: to see more. It's not you don't You don't judge. 509 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: After one game their offense was flat. Their offense didn't 510 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: cross a hundred yards till midway through the fourth quarter. 511 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: They have issues at running back right now, I just 512 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: don't trust this offense at all, But I'm not sure 513 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: it matters if they continue to play the way they can. 514 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: The thing is what you can do to Jared Goff. 515 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: You can't do to Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray invites the 516 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: blitz because then it takes off into open spaces and 517 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: tortures you. But the Dolphins have this sort of no 518 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: name defense of guys that most people have never heard 519 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: of who are making plays week after week. Emmanuel Agba 520 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: has been basically a top ten player when it comes 521 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: to pressuring and call seen nuisances and havoc for quarterbacks. 522 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: This Dolphins team is growing more dangerous by the week. 523 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: I love what's how this week is shaping up, because well, 524 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: maybe I won't after the games are played, but I 525 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: am on the opposite side of the fence of the 526 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: Sizzler and the old Boss with a lot of things 527 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: this week. I love the Cardinals in this game, and 528 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: all due respect to the Dolphins, and they're on a 529 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: winning streak, and and they played really well well. They 530 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: played well, getting a pick six and putting some pressure 531 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: on Golf, and they got a punt return for a 532 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: touch and the first punt return for a touchdown that 533 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: we've seen all season. How weird is that. I feel 534 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: like that used to happen once a week, but it 535 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: hasn't happened until last Sunday. Anyway, like the Cardinals a 536 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: lot here, I think they're at home to a did 537 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: not do anything in his debut. We have no we 538 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: have no reason to suspect he's gonna now hit the 539 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: ground running and light up the Cardinals on defense, which 540 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: is not a very good defense, and they don't have 541 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: a great pass rush, and there's no Chandler Jones. But 542 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: they did get after Russell Wilson in their last game 543 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: before the I at the end of that game to 544 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: help force the win. So maybe get a little bit 545 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: of that. Whoda Baker makes a play and then Kyler 546 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: Murray goes nuts against the Dolphins defense. That is fine, 547 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: but we're not talking about the five Bears here. I'm 548 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: locking up the Cardinals and I'm doing it confidence. I 549 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: feel good about very good. I actually picked the Cardinals 550 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: to win this game. To be clear, I'm with you. 551 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: Like the run game that that well, I was. I'm 552 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: excited to watch it because I don't know what's gonna 553 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: happen in. These two teams are so different, but the 554 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: running game, that's the way to beat the Dolphins. They're 555 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: dead last in in rushing defense and uh Kyler on 556 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: the ground, Kenyan Drake on the ground. I'm just saying 557 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: it should be fun. I expect more out of to it, 558 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: though I don't. I think they played to the score 559 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. And and we'll see what he does 560 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: in his second start. Time now for Road to Victory, 561 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: presented by the United States Marine Corps. For this game, 562 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna go back to the prime time Slate Monday 563 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: Night football Jets Patriots, who these usually don't turn out 564 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: very well From my Jets, Uh, it's a it's a 565 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: different set up than past years because the Patriots are 566 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: no longer the Patriots, but the Jets are no longer 567 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: the Jets either. The Jets went from being, you know, 568 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: a bad team to a middling team. Pretty Jets to me, 569 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, potentially historically bad team. You shush, Greg, your 570 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: team is no good anymore either. So that's why the 571 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: game is different. The Patriots went from good to the 572 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: mediocre the bad. The Jets went from bad to historically awful. Uh, 573 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: still seems like advantage in New England that say, you're 574 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: not buying Dan the Belichick quote that they're significantly better 575 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: the Jets are they they were a year ago, which 576 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: was like a sneaky shot and Belichick, but I kind 577 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: of get what he's saying on some level. First, maybe 578 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: he was talking about that first meeting where the where 579 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: the Jets were totally a mess and it was the 580 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: scene ghost game. Um, a lot of the Jets last 581 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 1: year felt like a mirage. And I think even when 582 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: they were winning game games, you didn't see Sam Donald 583 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: really correct some of the mistakes that the Patriots exposed 584 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: on this Monday night football game in terms of seeing ghosts. 585 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: And you're still seeing that. And I know he's a 586 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: little banged up right now, but Sam Donald is expected 587 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: to start, and it's a game that in theory matches 588 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: up well for the Patriots defense, who are good in 589 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: the back end and are just the worst Patriots run defense. Ever. 590 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's supposed to be a defense that 591 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: stops to run, and they just have no one up 592 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: front right now, no one in their front seven. And 593 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 1: is Frank Gore and le Michael p Ryan gonna expose 594 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: that maybe because it's just like bad on bad and 595 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots run defense. Is that bad right now that 596 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm not assuming anything with this Patriots team in terms 597 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: of having a comfortable win. I mean hold on the 598 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean Belichick week after week and he's done this 599 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: every week this season. He goes and glows over one 600 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: player that they're facing. We just talked about this on 601 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: a previous game, and this time he just pointed to 602 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: the entire Jets team because there isn't really one player 603 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: to pick at this point. Let's be honest. I mean, 604 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: you got Adam Gaze, whose main skill, in my opinion, 605 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: is basically lighting the house on fire and walking out 606 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: the back door. I'm not sure what is going on 607 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: with this team, but I I look, you know, the Patriots. 608 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: If we want to say that they lack this and 609 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: that they do, I mean they had four undrafted free 610 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: agent wide receivers starting the game last week, with Julian 611 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: Edelen out. They still took the Bills to the final 612 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: minute and that Cam fumble. Had that not happened, I 613 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: think they would have won that game or taken it 614 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: into overtime. So they find a way. I don't trust 615 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: the Jets to find a way. And Dan, I hate 616 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: this because I went through this as a Browns fan two. 617 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: But you almost need to just go into the darkest 618 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: farthest reaches and not have them go on some lame 619 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: winning streak and have them beat the pay I'm telling 620 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: that happened last year was because the schedule was extremely soft, 621 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: and that is simply just not the case of the Jets. 622 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm just concerned about one thing, and this is this 623 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: is a conspiracy theory, separate of all the other ones 624 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: that our country is offering at the moment. This scenario 625 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 1: that if Belichick found a way to allow you know, 626 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: Gaze and Donald to sneak a little win here, and 627 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: then they played them again in a week seventeen, you 628 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: look at the rest of New England schedule. This is 629 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: weird scenario. It's way that I'm saying, this is my scenario. 630 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: This the New England could mind its way and mastermind 631 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick fashion to outbid the Jets for that number 632 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: one pick, and then meanwhile you've got Adam Gays telling 633 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: his grandchildren, I'd beat Bill Belichick twice in one season. Yeah, 634 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: but you totally took the organization out of out of 635 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: the offering for the great quarterback in this is I 636 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: don't know, because the Jets, that would be the most 637 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: Jets thing you could do is to beat New England 638 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: when you've got to essentially go oh for for the 639 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: rest of the season. Come on, Jets, not necessarily over. 640 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: I'd like them to get one win, honestly, so if 641 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: they because I still think that will get them the 642 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: number the rest of the year. If you're looking at 643 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: on paper, this is it. This is the best chance. 644 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: That's what I want. I want the Patriots to go 645 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: down in flames in primetime against the Jets, and then 646 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: the Jets can lose out or Sam Donald could play 647 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: well the rest of the year, and then you have 648 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: a different decision to make. I do have a concern, Okay. 649 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: My concern here is that the Sam Donald era is 650 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: on the ropes right now. Uh, and he's banged up. 651 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: It's a it's a shoulder issue. I think it's a 652 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: little bit more than a minor issue, but it's something 653 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: he's trying to play through and he's showing some toughness, 654 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: but I think it's not gonna help his play this season, 655 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: and I'm concerned that Bill Belichick is gonna have the 656 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: right scheme here and it's gonna be another very embarrassing performance, 657 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: not just for Adam Gates and the Jets as a whole, 658 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: but Sam Donald. And then it's officially game over for 659 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: the Donald arre. Either he plays terribly and then gets 660 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: hurt and he's out for another six weeks or something, 661 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: or he's just so bad that it's becoming it becomes 662 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: increasingly clear it's Trevor Lawrence time or whomever. So that's 663 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: as a Jets man, that's what I'm assuming is gonna 664 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: happen here, and then anything that doesn't happen in that 665 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: realm will be a pleasant surprise. I I think he's 666 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: been there, and there's there's been some reasons to at 667 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: least he's gonna be with Adam Gates. We're never gonna 668 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: see him with the Jets um without Adam Gates until 669 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: after the season, and I think it's gonna be too late. 670 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: Because I don't think he's regressed that much. I think 671 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: he was playing as one of the worst quarterbacks in 672 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: league late last year and and that he's still there. 673 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: And and this is a game where I'm also curious 674 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: um to watch to see if what the Patriots found 675 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: in the second half was anything, you know, permanent, because 676 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: Damien Harris is running really well. Uh that they did 677 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: pick up. You know, Cam Newton I thought played pretty 678 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: well in that game. And so can they get anything 679 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: together against the Jets. This is the week to do it. 680 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: Look at Damien Harris breaking tackles. Cam Newton fought hard 681 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: in that game. Yeah, he's not gonna give up. I've 682 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: loved his attitude. It's kind of funny how you know, 683 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: he's gotten some criticism over the years about his attitude. 684 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: And that's the one thing I think everyone in Boston 685 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: kind of loves about Kim Newton. But it's his play 686 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: that that has been erratic, to say the least. Maybe 687 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: you're thinking of the last couple of games last year, Greg, 688 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: but Darnald was making progress for stretches of last year. 689 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: They were throwing, they were going on touchdown drives to 690 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: start games, none all that stuff. On. I think he's 691 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: undeniably regressed with the rest of the Jets this year, um, 692 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: and I just hope it doesn't lead to more embarrassment 693 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: in prime time. We'll see that was the road to 694 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: victory presented by the United States Marine Corps. All right, 695 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: back to the draft now, and it's snakes to you, Rosie. Alright, 696 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Bears tight ends in the early 697 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: games on Sunday. I think this is a sneaky fun 698 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: game because it's strength on strength and weakness on weakness. 699 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: When when the Bears have the ball, like this is 700 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: their week to get off and I know they have 701 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: offensive line issues and maybe that's just gonna be fatal 702 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: for this team, whether it's injuries or COVID. They're not 703 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: right up front, they haven't been great, But they're playing 704 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: a Titans defense where Nick Foles can finally, hopefully for him, 705 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: get a little bit of time in the pocket. For 706 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: all the criticism false has taken, he has played a 707 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: brutal slate of good defenses. And I actually thought he 708 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: made a lot more good throws against the Saints than 709 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: people gave him credit for. Escaped a couple of fourth 710 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: down situations is ate the third and fifteen, a third 711 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: and nineteen, and Mitchell Drabinski now has a shoulder injury, 712 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: which sounds serious. So it's gonna be full as the 713 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: rest of the way. And this is a chance against 714 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: one of the worst third down, red zone defenses of 715 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: all time. They cut Vic Beasley, which is wild. They 716 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: had given him nine million dollars. That's the bigger disaster 717 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: of a signing that that was. And then when you 718 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: flip it around the Titans when they have the ball, uh, 719 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: the best red zone offense, third down offense in the 720 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: league against one of the best red zone defenses that 721 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: we've seen in a long time. So it's like strength 722 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: on strength no matter who has the ball. I mean, 723 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: these strength on strength games though they look awesome to 724 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: us when we're previewing the games, and then something goes 725 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: wrong and one of the strengths don't show up when 726 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: they actually play them, and I and I have to 727 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: say which team which overall? You know, operation do I 728 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: trust right here? You know I know what happens. Well, well, 729 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that will be clear to you. 730 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: I trust the Titans more here. You're not dealing with 731 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, Joe Burrow. This time you're dealing with Nick 732 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: Foles and he's been growing, you know, under seven yards 733 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: per attempt for like six games in a row. And 734 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: so I do think they fought hard against New Orleans 735 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: and it becomes a board or just pile on Chicago's 736 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: attack week after week. We can all see that they're wanting. Uh, 737 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, I feel bad for guys like Allen Robinson 738 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: in the middle of that whole thing, who you know, 739 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: you put them somewhere else in the whole situation is 740 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: different for him to me, the Titans. He if you're Tannehill, 741 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: you can deal with pressure. He can deal with it. 742 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: He's one of the better in the league at unfurling 743 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: a beautiful pass with someone right in his face. So 744 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a different edge against Chicago's 745 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: defense that keeps teams in these games. I trust Derrick 746 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: Henry in this game. I just to me, Tennessee is 747 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: not gonna want to lose two in a row here, 748 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: and that factors in. They're just gonna come in here. 749 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: There is bully. There is bully centric as the Bears 750 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: could ever wish to be. The Bears don't want to 751 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: lose three in a row. But if you all right, 752 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: so put it, they may not be in control of that. 753 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: If we're boy, if we're bored of piling on the 754 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 1: Bears offense, and let's start piling on the Titans defense more, 755 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 1: because like, what a mess. It's a it's a mess 756 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: right now. And I think it's been covered up because 757 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: the Titans offense has been fun and they've been winning. 758 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: But now when you you throw a lass in there, 759 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: you start to really get concerned because how do you 760 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: how does this happen? You're playing a Cincinnati offensive line 761 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: that is missing four of their five starters to injury 762 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: from the prior week, and you do not get a 763 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: single sack of Joe Burrow. You you hit him twice 764 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: the entire game, and that obviously that's the impetus. That's 765 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: why Vick Beasley, they finally said, get out of here. 766 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: If you don't want to be here and you can't 767 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: make a play, we don't want you in the buildings, 768 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: So take our money and get out of our life forever, 769 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: the old Truemayin Johnson treatment. But now, how about your 770 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: David Clowney steps up? Make a play. Clowney, you are 771 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you're aware of this, Jadave and 772 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: you're in a contract here again, and if you go 773 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: through this season not making any impact, uh, you're not 774 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: gonna get paid. And I don't want to pile on 775 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: him either because it seems like I do, but he's 776 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: he's a part of the issue. So hopefully you know, 777 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: you get secondary help from Desmond King. I don't know 778 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: what an immediate impact he can make, but that side 779 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: of the defense needs to improve to This is a 780 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: unit that is not going anywhere unless they get fixed. 781 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: And that's Unbrable, who's technically the de coordinator, and and 782 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: they're counting on their offense to be one of the 783 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: best in the league, and it is, but we haven't 784 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: seen a long stretch here without their tackles. It's a 785 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: totally different tackle starting group right now after Taylor Lawan 786 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: got hurt. So you have the first round pick Isaiah Wilson, 787 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: who was on the COVID list forever. He's back, and 788 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 1: you have Tysonbrella. Like the early returns last week against 789 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 1: Cincinnati were not impressive, and I think if you're looking 790 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: for a bit of a weakness on Tennessee's offense, it's 791 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: definitely upfront and here come the Bears. Acheam Hicks, Khalil 792 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: mac Robert Quinn's up and down, but like these guys 793 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: can keep it close. The Bears have maybe as many 794 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: impressive wins this year as the Titans were. Almost I've 795 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: almost slept on the Bears too much because if you 796 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: just look at the results, they're they're pretty solid results, 797 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: and the Titans haven't really put together a complete game 798 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: all year other than that one builds game. They let 799 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: everyone in these games. They never blow teams out, whether 800 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: they're good or they're bad teams. If if the Bears 801 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: won this game, I'd have to I'd have to personally 802 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: look at them a little differently. I think part of 803 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: it is that we all see them as a team 804 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: that's trying to get through an NFL season with a 805 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: completely different makeup than thirty one other teams. For the 806 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: most part, they're trying to play like it's nineteen seventy two, 807 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: and it's not just that's not fun to watch. I'm 808 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: fine with that if it works, except I think that 809 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: the offense leaves this defense a very good defense. It 810 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: holds them hostage week after week, and you're like, at 811 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: some point someone's going to break through and score twenty 812 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: points against you, and it's a fatal blow. You're done. 813 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next game. Way 814 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: to put a punctuation on that, Sessler. I loved it, 815 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: classic Sissler. There, I'll go with the let's see the 816 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: Raiders at the Chargers. Pretty good, pretty good value by 817 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: with the with the UH six pick here. I like um. 818 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 1: I like the Raiders how they went about their business 819 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: against the Browns. That they in terrible conditions, thirty five 820 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: mile per hour wind, rain, sleep, you're on the road, 821 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: it's just nasty. And they said, Okay, we're just going 822 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: to run the football. We're gonna control time and possession. 823 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna whack you when you catch the ball. It 824 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: was just like a nice physical effort from the Raiders 825 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: that showed me a little side of their personality that 826 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: I wasn't quite aware of entering Week eight. So, yes, 827 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: the Browns, as we've talked about, Mark, they're very up 828 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: and down. They're good, they're bad. So maybe they caught 829 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: the Browns in a bad week, so it shouldn't be 830 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: too impressed, but I was. I like the way they 831 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: played that game. And now you get the Chargers, who 832 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what to say about 833 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: the Chargers after they blow a twenty four to three 834 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: second half lead. I would say, if it happened to 835 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: another team, maybe you show up angry here and you 836 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: just whip up on the Raiders. That's certainly possible, because 837 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 1: justin Herbert has been a revelation, But it's also equally possible. 838 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: They're up twenty eight to seventeen with three minutes to 839 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: play and they lose, so I can't trust them. The 840 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: trust is becoming a major theme of today's episode. Well, 841 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: I like what you said about the Raiders. I think 842 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: the grout and I know that I know that you 843 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: know they've been more aggressive through the air, and that's 844 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: because you know they've had to win games where they 845 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: are being scored on, and so that's going to force 846 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: you to be more aggressive. They're almost the flip of 847 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 1: the Bears in a way where it's like, I found 848 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: it offensive that they that they allowed Denver back into 849 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: that game. The defense you cannot count on, while the 850 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: offense is one of the most watchable, enjoyable passing attacks 851 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: I can remember of the past five ten years. I 852 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: mean they simply are gonna will their way two points. 853 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: And Justin Herbert has been absolutely unbelievable to the eyes, 854 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: and he's making throws and doing things that I mean, 855 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: I I don't you know, I can't really even find 856 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: a comparison for him at this point. He's his own guy, 857 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: and so I like the idea that the Charger is 858 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: gonna be in every single game the Raiders, though, That's 859 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: what Gruden wanted to be against Cleveland, I think, and 860 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs woke up. It was his best game of 861 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: the year. They were the tougher team in bad weather. 862 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: It's said a lot about the Raiders. It made me 863 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: think about them very differently. And they're coming off a 864 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,479 Speaker 1: few weeks of beating the Chiefs as well. This team 865 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: is this team is a real threat for a wild 866 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: card spot and they you never know what can happen 867 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: at that point. They are a weird, tough team. It's 868 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: so impressive what Herbert's done. I think he's he's having 869 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: the best rookie quarterback season of the last decade so far, 870 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: and and one of the reasons is because of the 871 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: matchups that he's had. He's played really tough opponents. He's 872 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: played some of the best defenses in the league and 873 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: then find now he finally gets a matchup where he 874 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: should be protected much better. I mean, it's a cupcake 875 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: matchup against the Raiders usually most weeks, and there's no 876 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: reason to think he won't bomb them out and like 877 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: that they have the edge. But there's something more going 878 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: on with the Charges. It's cosmic. I mean, this is 879 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: where I'm sounding more like Sessler. You can't you can't 880 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: measure whatever the Chargers have. It's a crazy disease, it's 881 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: a variance, it's an up and a down thing that's 882 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: you can't do it. And the Raiders are sort of 883 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: the opposite to me. They're kind of this steady, mature 884 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: team that's built up over the last week. Like I 885 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: just trust them more as a tougher mental team, whereas 886 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: the Chargers, I don't know, whatever they have going on 887 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: they need to get rid of. It's yeah, the Charger 888 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: it's been happening for years. But sometimes you could also 889 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: argue that when otherwise level headed analysts like a Greg 890 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: Rosenthal blames it on the Cosmos, he's covering for the 891 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: fact that he likes the head coach but the head 892 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: coach actually isn't that good and he plays a role 893 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: in these collapses as well. Fair or no, that's that's fair. Defensively, sure, 894 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynne, I give him credit because Anthony Lynn probably 895 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: wanted to win games sixteen fourteen and run the ball, 896 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, forty times a game you lose Austin Nichola, 897 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: and he's been flexible to allow the team to be 898 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: what they are with their great quarterbacks. So that's that's 899 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: points earned with me. But the defense has been a 900 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: wild hot mess on fire in all the wrong ways, 901 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: and so you know, there's a lot of work to 902 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: make up for that, and it leads to these It 903 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: is coaching, you don't. It isn't. It can't believe. It's 904 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: not all mysticism. Uh, it can't be. It has to 905 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: be the fact that some teams learn and get into 906 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: the groove and know how to close games. That's what 907 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: the Bucks said about Brady. We would lose these games 908 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: if we didn't have him, his presence, the whole aura. 909 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: So it's mysticism, player coach, the whole thing mixed together. 910 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: Dan a wild hot mess on fire, all right, We 911 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: keep going. Mark Sasler up next in the draft. Well, 912 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Carolina at Kansas City, and you know, 913 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: I you gotta be real with with these teams. And 914 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: I love my Matt Rule. But my thing with the 915 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: Panthers they have they have struggled to close games of late. 916 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: They're they're pretty good, they don't What I like about 917 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: them is they don't get blown out, They hang around, 918 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,439 Speaker 1: they do a lot of things pretty well, and they're 919 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: there in the fourth quarter. But they've lost three in 920 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: a row by what would be one score if you 921 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 1: had a touchdown, a two point conversion. So I feel 922 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: like at that point they're just one of these teams 923 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: that might be, you know, a year away from really threatening. Um. 924 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: To me, I look at I know that I know 925 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: what happened last week against the Falcons, but I point 926 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: to the Saints game two weeks ago, which is a 927 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: really interesting contest for the Panthers, where I thought Teddy 928 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: Bridgewater battled in that game. There was one play where 929 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: he escaped a blitz and hit Curtis Samuel on this 930 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: beautiful throwdown field. There was a beautiful shot to d J. Moore. 931 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: Robby Anderson is there every week. Their offense is watchable 932 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: and interesting, and again it's like you're gonna get Christian 933 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: McCaffrey back in this game, it sounds like, And that's 934 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: a nice X factor. I think that that this is 935 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: an offense to can compete and hang around, but and 936 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: their defense is down. You can't really rush the passer 937 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: right now and income the Chiefs. And if you can't 938 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: really get to Patrick Mahomes and make life uncomfortable, which 939 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: we've seen week after week, what how do you hang 940 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: around in a game like this? I think this might 941 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: be the one where the bow breaks um for Carolina 942 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: unless something really strange happens with turnovers or whatever. I 943 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: don't love the set up, but I think it's an 944 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: interesting test for a very young team still figuring out 945 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: who they are. And it's always good to go up 946 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 1: again against a team like Kansas City and find out 947 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: you know no offense in are you last week's Jets 948 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: or are you the Raiders? Are you? Can you hang around? 949 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: What are the Panthers? We'll see you mentioned turnovers. That's 950 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: like the cherry on top of the Sunday for Kansas City. 951 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: Right now they lead the NFL and turnover margin so on, 952 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 1: on top of everything they take the ball away. Steve 953 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: Spagnola's defense is especially good against the past, which is 954 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: the way you want to stop Carolina. Christian McCaffrey is 955 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: going to be back for this game. That's big, but 956 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I think this is like the start 957 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: of the Patrick Mahomes like, oh yeah, maybe he can 958 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: win the m v P Award this year too. By 959 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 1: the end of it, it feels like like that had 960 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 1: been ruled out. I'm just saying, yeah, that was four 961 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 1: or five weeks. I still think it's a little early. 962 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: But what I would say is, like, you know, they're 963 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: talking about it in the you know, in the desert. 964 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 1: I feel like no one's paying attention to Mahomes. Now 965 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 1: might be the time to get in. He's thrown twenty 966 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: one touchdowns in one interception this year, you know, on 967 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: a team that right, on a team that has a 968 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: very easy schedule. Uh, and it's gonna continue being easy 969 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: moving forward for the most part, especially against opposing defensive 970 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: So I think he's just gonna have more games like 971 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: the Jets game a week ago, and this would be 972 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: the week to do it. Yes, the Panthers get back 973 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: gross Matos upfront, which is good. I liked how he 974 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: looked early in the year. But there's no reason to 975 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: think the Panthers defense, who hasn't forced to punt since 976 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: Week six, is gonna do anything against this team. It 977 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: smells like a forty burger. Yeah they didn't. I mean 978 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: the Panthers didn't close in the sense that they weren't 979 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: able to go down the field on that last drive 980 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: on Thursday night against the Falcons. But they got outplayed 981 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: straight up by the Atlanta team that played so poorly 982 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: earlier this season that they got their coach fired. And listen, 983 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: I was I was mocked on the show three weeks 984 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: ago for saying, Oh, the Panthers aren't the greatest gift 985 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: to football. Uh, this is gonna be This is an 986 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: up and down. This is gonna be an up and 987 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: down team just like I thought. And they were gonna 988 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: hanging games and maybe be ready next year. I'm glad 989 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: you guys came around to the old zooser on this one. 990 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, and ay you were not mocked. Is 991 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: like absurdly strong, and you know that you you like 992 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: now you set up you have to like, oh you 993 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: like you're like you guys think that I don't love 994 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: Matt Rule, like blah blah blah. It's like we we 995 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: we we are correct. Lombardi that no, Matt Rule is 996 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 1: a great coach. You have to say that the Panthers, 997 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: No one's saying that they playoff team. They have overachieved, 998 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: they have over than like Matt rule, because the Jets said, no, 999 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: we won't let you guy or your own coaching staff. 1000 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna control your coaching staff. And if Matt Rule 1001 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: was in New York right now, Sam Donald would not 1002 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: be one of the worst league. I really had a chance. 1003 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: My team had a chance to hire Vince Lombardi at 1004 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: age thirty eight, and I let him out, get out 1005 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: the door. So I'm dealing with that. You're right, What 1006 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: am I gonna do without Matt Rule around for the 1007 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,240 Speaker 1: next twenty years? See you are you're the one mocking. 1008 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: We're not mocking. You're the most all right, Teddy. I 1009 00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: want to see how Teddy plays in this game. That 1010 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: was a nasty hit. Also also against the Falcons to 1011 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: the head and neck area was an illegal hit. Um, 1012 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: it sounds like he's okay. I'd like to see him 1013 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: have a nice week here. And and maybe I know 1014 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: but you're not gonna hang with Mahomes, right, You're just 1015 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: not gonna hang out with Mahomes and a shootout. And 1016 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Greg, like he is going to continue 1017 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: to have monster weeks because he was held down by 1018 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 1: some things that were out of his control earlier in 1019 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 1: the season. And I think its just take off time. 1020 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: I think this game is gonna get ugly. I think 1021 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: we're on the same page. I'm with you, all right, Mark, 1022 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: It's snakes to you, my friend, Well it snakes to me. 1023 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not claiming that this is where like a 1024 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: like a bona fide GM would go next with his selection. 1025 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: But we have to look at our Sundays and how 1026 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 1: we organize them. There's one more four o'clock our game. 1027 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: If you live on the East coast, it's a one 1028 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: o'clock to us. I'm going Pittsburgh at Dallas. This has 1029 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: all Sometimes I like to just see, you know, ugliness 1030 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: on furl and great measure, and Pittsburgh is a team 1031 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 1: that is set up to absolutely roping atomic bomb on Dallas. 1032 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 1: It's not fair to Cowboys fans because I think about 1033 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 1: a month ago, they thought we have issues on defense, 1034 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: but we have one of the most electrifying offenses in 1035 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: all of those everything. They were totally fun. In fact, 1036 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, if you want to look at 1037 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: the fantasy angle, if you haven't been dumping Cowboys players 1038 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: off your roster the past couple of weeks, what are 1039 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: you doing. I have a bunch of them and you 1040 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: gotta move them. You gotta move them off that roster. 1041 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: And now you're looking at Cooper Rush or Garrett Gilbert 1042 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: at quarterback, and I would imagine, you know, they talked 1043 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: about it being a decision they'll make as late as possible. 1044 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush has been part of the organization in the past. 1045 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: You know, Kellen Moore knows him well, not so much 1046 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, but they signed him for a reason. They 1047 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: seem to like him in the past. Garrett Gilbert was 1048 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: pulled off of Cleveland's practice squad. So I'm thinking, unless 1049 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: you want to do something really weird, like play both 1050 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: of them series after series, that's what I would do. 1051 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: Throw everyone off, get really funky, maybe run the single wing, 1052 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: and you know, just do something that no one's expecting. 1053 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: Other Wise this sets up as total destruction. Pittsburgh's pass 1054 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: Rush versus this offensive line. This could be like a 1055 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: fifty two seven type of breathe easy game for the Steelers. 1056 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean, in in Dan's old words, it doesn't matter. 1057 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't they can't protect. It doesn't matter 1058 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 1: it is that quarterback. It'll probably rush, And what does 1059 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 1: it matter? They chose Ben de Nucci over rushed to 1060 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: start this year, though, So I mean that kind of 1061 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: shows you where Cooper Rush was at. He was on 1062 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: the game in my building forward Denucci. I mean, hey, hey, 1063 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: maybe it's not his fault that your offensive line they 1064 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 1: can't block three, they can't block four. When the Steelers 1065 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: want a blitz, you're definitely not gonna block five. It 1066 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 1: really doesn't matter. The Steelers defense will be able to 1067 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 1: do whatever they want. I am curious. I guess if 1068 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense is gonna build on what they did 1069 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: a week ago where they had by far their best 1070 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: game of the year. I mean, vander esh did look 1071 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: a little spicy. Uh. DeMarcus Lawrence has definitely come on 1072 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: in a couple of the last couple of weeks. So 1073 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, can the Cowboys defense get respectable because otherwise, 1074 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: you're right, it's gonna be a thirty forty point margin 1075 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 1: in this I was gonna you know, every year, there's 1076 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: always gonna be obviously one game that's the biggest blowout 1077 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: of the year. Everyone kind of circled Jets at Kansas 1078 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,280 Speaker 1: City last week, which was ugly, but didn't get to that, um, 1079 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, apocalyptic level. This could be it because of 1080 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,280 Speaker 1: everything that's going against the Cowboys right now, the amount 1081 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: of bad vibes in that building. Uh, the quarterback situation 1082 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: where this is depending how you look look at it, 1083 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be their fourth or fifth string quarterback starting 1084 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: against arguably the best defense in the league. You put 1085 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: all that together, uh, and the fact that the Steelers 1086 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: can score points of their own on offense, we could 1087 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: be staring at a fifty burger game that you know, 1088 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: maybe takes Mike McCarthy one step closer to the coaching graveyard. 1089 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, We'll see. But the only thing I 1090 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: guess I would say from the Steelers end of things 1091 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: is that Ben Roethlisberg in the passing game can go 1092 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: to sleep for stretches and maybe maybe us maybe the 1093 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: only thing that keeps us from a blowout is that 1094 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: the offense, the passing offense is a little out of sink, 1095 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: and it keeps the Steelers from just going absolutely mad here. Well, 1096 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: if I'm the Steelers, I'm resting my players that are 1097 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: a little banged up. Tyson a la lalla. That's one 1098 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 1: of the reasons they didn't you know, protect uh, you know, 1099 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,399 Speaker 1: stop the run last week is hurt. There's a couple 1100 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,399 Speaker 1: other players that are heard. It's like, sit them down 1101 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: this week. They should have gotten Romo out of here though, 1102 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: hashtag save Romo. I mean, I tend to draft a 1103 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: Romo game. I think I've had it five or six times. 1104 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: It's like, I can't even take it this week. Why 1105 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: why do they have Romo in this game? Give me 1106 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: a break? Fair? I guess it's like the one rating 1107 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: matchup possible, but forget it. Well, before we move on 1108 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: to Mark's original point, the fantasy point, all the Cowboys, 1109 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: all the people that had Cowboys. You had one week. 1110 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: It was after DA's leg broke and before Dalton started, 1111 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: when there was a sense that maybe they could continue 1112 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: to be a functional offense with Dalton. But then one 1113 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: Stalton went down in flames in that primetime game. It 1114 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,840 Speaker 1: was basically lights out. So now you're going down with 1115 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: the ship. You're it's the band from the orchestra from 1116 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: the Titanic. At this point, if you still have Cowboys 1117 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: skill players and your roster, all right, that brings us 1118 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: to the old zeus Er. Oh God, I loving the 1119 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: old Zusters up in the draft. Uh. He does such 1120 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 1: a great job with his picks. What is going on 1121 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 1: all right? Detroit at Minnesota is my pick? I like 1122 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: this game, like it Minnesota, little feisty. They made me 1123 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: look bad earlier this season because I liked them a lot. 1124 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,720 Speaker 1: I said they had a very high floor. I thought 1125 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 1: they were close to a lock to ten and six 1126 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 1: as any team in the NFC. Obviously ignored what were 1127 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: major issues on their team, which was first and foremost 1128 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: the defense. What I didn't see was Kirk Cousins turning 1129 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: into uh. As Gregg pointed out last week Jameis Winston 1130 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,280 Speaker 1: Part two, he still don't really know how that happened. 1131 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: I guess the loss of Stefan Diggs played a role, 1132 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,280 Speaker 1: But just justin Jefferson has been awesome as a rookie. 1133 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 1: So all this stuff going on in my head swimming 1134 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: in my head about the Vikings, I can't totally put 1135 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 1: them to bed I. I don't want to give up 1136 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,399 Speaker 1: the dream that this is the team that is gonna 1137 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: be in the mix. Maybe they're not going to get 1138 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: to the floor that I thought, which was ten and six, 1139 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: but they'll be playing relevant football in December. It starts 1140 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,720 Speaker 1: right here, though. Go beat the Lions in your building. 1141 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't have any faith in the Lions, and they're 1142 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 1: dealing with COVID related issues this week. The top things off, 1143 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 1: So the Vikings have a chance now to build off 1144 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 1: what was a really nice win against the Packers at 1145 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: lambeau Field where Davin Cook went absolutely mad. I don't 1146 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 1: think they're gonna have trouble moving the ball again this week, 1147 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: and I like them a lot in this game. What 1148 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: do you boys think that you think that you're gonna 1149 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: lock it up? There? You sounded passionate. I mean, I 1150 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: think that the win over Green Bay was the kind 1151 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: of win to shut someone like me up because I've 1152 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 1: been the opposite of you, Dan, obviously, I've been down 1153 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: on the Vikings for a long time. Um and it 1154 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: looked good, but I have to I have I'm with you. 1155 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 1: I think that there's some fight here and in any 1156 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,879 Speaker 1: team that can run the ball the way they are 1157 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: right now. You know, let Cook cook. How about let 1158 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,479 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook just keep doing this down the stretch. Forget 1159 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: about this Kirk Cousins business. The two games they've won 1160 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins, he has passed the ball twenty two times, 1161 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,280 Speaker 1: and last week and going against Green Bay fourteen times. 1162 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: I think that's what they want to do. And why 1163 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 1: not because that's paired with really really great performances on 1164 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: the ground, and there's no reason you can't do that 1165 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 1: with Detroit and with the Stafford thing. You know, it 1166 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: adds to the layer of mess that so many teams 1167 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 1: are dealing with right now. And I would I like 1168 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 1: a better answer from certain players and coaches on you know, 1169 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: if you don't practice all week and you're you know, 1170 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: you're just attending meetings over zoom, I don't know how 1171 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: much of an impact does that have in Week nine 1172 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: if you're a quarterback or a skilled position player, I 1173 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,919 Speaker 1: still think it matters a lot. I mean, we don't 1174 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: have these practices from nineteen eighty five where it's full contact, 1175 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: but it's chemistry, it's it's scout team, it's the whole situation. 1176 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 1: So to me, that's an impact and that's a big 1177 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: advantage for the Vikings, right. I think that like the 1178 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 1: for instance, the Broncos last week, it's like they never 1179 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: practiced their red zone and third down plays. And you know, 1180 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: the NFL is kind of dancing through the rain drops 1181 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 1: right now trying to get these games happening. Ten teams 1182 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: this week have COVID related issues. Stafford's starting quarterback, that's 1183 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: that's out um of practice. But to be clear, you know, 1184 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 1: the timeline that we've seen in terms of being out 1185 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: five days because he was a close contact, means he 1186 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: could start in this game, and at this point, I 1187 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: think it's cautiously expected to start. But I'm with you, Dan, 1188 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: I had the Vikings winning regardless. Uh. I think these 1189 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: two teams have two Jenga pieces. One of them is 1190 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay and he's out with a hip injury. This 1191 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: Lion's offense is just mediocre without Galada stretching the field. 1192 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: He is such a great receiver. They just don't have 1193 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 1: enough juice otherwise. And then Dalvin Cook's the other one. 1194 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 1: He's the other running back that matters. I mean, they're 1195 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 1: just a different offense. You guys have spelled it out, 1196 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,880 Speaker 1: but I think that Gary Kubiak like zone running scheme 1197 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: has kind of taken hold quietly. They just need to 1198 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: be in game situations, game scripts where they're not trailer 1199 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 1: by twenty, which has happened to them a few times. 1200 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: Because the Cousins, this should not be one of those weeks. 1201 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 1: We like Mike Zimmer here at the A T N podcast. 1202 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: He's good coach. I give him credit because when you 1203 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: trade Yannick and Gokway, that's sending a message to the 1204 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,760 Speaker 1: locker room that your organization is quit on the season. 1205 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: Team didn't quit on the coach against the Packers, and 1206 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: the stat of there gonna go seven and nine, don't 1207 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: you think they're gonna go seven nine? I'm not giving 1208 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: up the ghost. I think seven and nine is good 1209 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: for him right now. But I think we probably because 1210 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: I think Kirk Cousins, the way he's playing that ye 1211 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: will probably kill them one or two more times and 1212 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: that could be the difference between seven and nine and 1213 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: the nine and seven. Uh come back. But Dave Cook 1214 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 1: a hundred and eleven of his a hundred sixty three 1215 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: rushing yards were after contact last week against the Packers. 1216 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: He is a superstar alright, Greg, you're up alright, I'm 1217 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 1: gonna surprise you here. I'm going with Jake Lewton's first start. 1218 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: Who really knows he's playing for the Jaguars and he's 1219 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 1: playing against the Texts, and my strategy is to get 1220 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: the game. I don't really want to watch that much 1221 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 1: in my backup window early. That's how I do it, 1222 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: and that is a strategy. It's like, I don't I 1223 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 1: don't need to watch Luton on game pass. Proved me wrong. 1224 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: Maybe they will. Maybe he will because they really liked 1225 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: him in camp. They talked about him in the same 1226 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: way they kind of talked about Minshew last year, and 1227 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 1: they were right about Minshew being better than you'd ever 1228 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 1: expect a late round rookie to be. I believe in 1229 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: my soul more than anything that Luton was starting this game, 1230 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: whether Minshew got hurt or not. If you saw that 1231 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: Ian Rapp report report a couple of weeks ago, how 1232 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: they were thinking of benching Minshew, it only makes sense 1233 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: to do it for another young guy. Uh. And then 1234 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,919 Speaker 1: Morone said early in the bye in their bye week, 1235 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: that we're gonna shake some things up. I mean that 1236 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: to me, telegraph that you're making a change at quarterback, 1237 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: and so they were curious enough to see Luton play. 1238 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: Despite Minshew playing Okay, I don't think anyone saying that 1239 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: he was a disaster, so I think they're thinking this 1240 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 1: is a great matchup here. They're playing the Texans. Texans 1241 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,919 Speaker 1: have more COVID issues than anyone. They're gonna be without 1242 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 1: Jacob Martin, their linebacker. They're gonna be without Whitney Merciless, 1243 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: who on Thursday was deemed a close contact. He's out. 1244 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 1: So this game of all the games, is one I 1245 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: think you have to watch to make sure it even happens. 1246 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 1: But if it does, there should be a lot of 1247 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 1: points defensive. I'm really rooting hard here for the Jags 1248 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: for Jets purposes. I need the Jags to get that 1249 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: second w Houston has Deshaun Watson, so they're gonna stumble 1250 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: into three or four wins, so I'm not worried about them, 1251 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 1: So go Jags. I'm also gonna get all in Sessler 1252 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: on Lutanity because you know the Gardner Minshew thing. I 1253 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: missed that train and that seemed like it was a 1254 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 1: fun ride. Walt lasted. Well, I'm gonna be the first 1255 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 1: one on the Jake the Snake Lutanity train. I'm all 1256 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: in on his abilities to be like the second coming 1257 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 1: of Minshew Mania. Uh, it's like when Johnny Doe replaced 1258 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 1: Dirk Diggler and Boogie Nights. It's like that. Feeling like this, 1259 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 1: he's the same guy. He's a late round pick that 1260 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: had a spunky college career and uh, you know what, 1261 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: why not get on the train and see where it 1262 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: takes me? Well, you know, so I'll play your role 1263 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: in this relationship and you know, throw little jabs at 1264 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Lutonity and Luton every chance I get. I think that 1265 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Greg number one, you're absolutely right when when Ian is 1266 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 1: putting out a report that you know they want to 1267 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: see what they have in Minshew's you know, heading towards 1268 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: the bench for another six rounder. To me, I don't 1269 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: think it's hey, maybe we have a future starter. It's hey, 1270 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: we have a chance to go get Trevor Lawrence, So 1271 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: let's get Minshew out of here. Who is you know 1272 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: they're losing with him, but he's a little too frisky 1273 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 1: and for all this heat has a great arm. Jake 1274 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Luton business. I went and looked at some stuff scouting 1275 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 1: reports coming out of Oregon's six foot six is one 1276 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 1: of these. Well no, because because I wanted to find 1277 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 1: all this's going on here, it struck me as suspicious. 1278 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 1: He was basically labeled as a non depasser game manager, 1279 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 1: good ball security, not a guy who can scramble or 1280 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 1: lays with the run. No, but Minshew can at least 1281 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 1: give you Like on the ground, Minshew is has escapability, 1282 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 1: he can move a little bit. He's probably created stuff 1283 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 1: when nothing's there more than people would expect. I don't 1284 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 1: think that's the case here. I think that they're going 1285 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,439 Speaker 1: with a lower wattage quarterback, and I think the Jet 1286 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 1: that Dan, they are looking at your Jets team and 1287 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 1: saying we want the Jets to sneak a few wins here, 1288 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 1: because you this is two teams saying we can change 1289 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: our franchisees if we get Trevor Lawrence. And they're right 1290 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 1: in that zone, So you go with the lower watted 1291 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 1: You think they're trying to I definitely do. I definitely do. 1292 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: But I think maybe the way they operate. They even 1293 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: told Marone it's you're not on the hot seat, you're 1294 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: part of this, or maybe they just said it with 1295 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: their eyes. Maybe it's not done for not maybe it's done, 1296 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, done with if it's maybe it's not you 1297 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 1: know something that there's no words, there's no it's not 1298 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 1: been overheard by anyone bugging the building. Greg. I'm not 1299 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: trying to be a go down conspiracy avenue again. I 1300 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 1: just think that Minshew was a little too dangerous for 1301 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: them not to get at this case. Maybe I'm maybe 1302 01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: I think they want to see this guy. I think 1303 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: they liked him. They want to see him. Jay Gruden 1304 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: whenever there's wherever Jay Gruden goes, little whispers to the 1305 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: media follow you kind of notice these things. I think 1306 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 1: he likes Jake Luton for whatever reason. Uh, you know, 1307 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 1: the Texans are the worst run defense in the league. 1308 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: James Robinson might go off. I know the Texans are 1309 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: heavy favorites here, but I'm not trusting the Texans uh 1310 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: as heavy favorites until I feel like this is a 1311 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 1: coin flip. Yeah, all right, we've done a lot of 1312 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 1: talking to one in six teams. Let's move on Snare 1313 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 1: Oh baby, um, not totally ready for that. But I'll 1314 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 1: pick a game that I truly love that I love 1315 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 1: it so much I almost wanted in my number one slot. 1316 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 1: It's the Falcons and the Broncos. There's just sometimes sometimes 1317 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 1: teams are just like my team, like teams I'm like 1318 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: surprisingly enjoyed watching The Dolphins would be one of those 1319 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: teams this year. The Broncos and the Falcons qualify. The 1320 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Falcons drive you crazy. They have really turned their season 1321 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: around since firing Dan Quinn and getting Julio Jones back. 1322 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: They've won two out of three. If Todd really had 1323 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 1: just fallen down, we'd be talking about a three game 1324 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,440 Speaker 1: winning streak. The Browncos have won two out of three. 1325 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: A little bit lucky last week since Drew Lock returned, 1326 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: but I do think they're frisky and this is a 1327 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 1: big game for them. They can get back to five hundred. 1328 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,439 Speaker 1: They can get back to relevant. Uh. Drew Lock had 1329 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,439 Speaker 1: seven absolutely miserable quarters and I think he fell into 1330 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 1: that win. Uh. And I think the Charges collapsed a 1331 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 1: little more than he made consistent plays. Um, But this 1332 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: is a beatable matchup against Atlanta. Go on the road, 1333 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,959 Speaker 1: get a win with your solid defense, get these playmakers 1334 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 1: involved on turf against a bad defense, and go get 1335 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: to five hundred. I mean, Albert KOI buonum, I think 1336 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 1: I got it right. There. He looks like one of 1337 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: the best young Titans we've seen come out in a while. 1338 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 1: He's a fourth or fifth round pick, and him next 1339 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 1: to Fan who's who looks a little banged up to me, 1340 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 1: doesn't have the same explosiveness. But that's that they got 1341 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: a fun little team. If they can just get locked 1342 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 1: not blowing it. That's my big with Albert. I go 1343 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 1: with Albert Oh because I know that that is infallible, 1344 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: and I know that that is correct to some degree 1345 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 1: as well. I mean that to me, you know, Greg, 1346 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 1: I like what I like what your lock did at 1347 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 1: the end of last week. But they have had some 1348 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 1: slow starts. They are thirty and d v o A 1349 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 1: on offense. That has to do with, you know, the 1350 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 1: junk that was going on when Locke was hurt as well. 1351 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 1: But if this is your game, the Falcons are twenty 1352 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 1: nine against the past in d v o A, So 1353 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 1: it's like, come out firing for once. Be the sum 1354 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: of your parts. Because the thing about Denver that interests 1355 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 1: you is they have all this young talent, They have 1356 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 1: this speed. A guy like Albert Oh, who we weren't 1357 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: even talking about in August, is a huge factor. So 1358 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 1: let's put it all together against a team that you 1359 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 1: should be able to beat. Here if we should take 1360 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 1: you seriously. I struggled to take Denver seriously, but I'm 1361 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: with you. They're fun to watch, and so I'd like 1362 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: to have them hang around for the sake of not 1363 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 1: another team that goes into the trash compactor as we 1364 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: head into mid November. I don't need that. Falcons could 1365 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 1: easily a foray are we. Falcons are this team that 1366 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 1: should be easily dispatch They're playing hard. We just saw 1367 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: them beat the Panthers. Pulled a poll on Thursday night, 1368 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 1: and I'm with where I'm out of the Broncos. Show 1369 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: me yeah, show me it again. That's all you're You're 1370 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 1: in the third quarter and then the charger is gonna charger. 1371 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: And I don't want to take away from the Broncos 1372 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: because that was a great fourth quarter for Lock in 1373 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 1: the offense. Lock went fourteen of eighteen for a hundred 1374 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,919 Speaker 1: and fifty five yards and three touchdowns in the fourth quarter. 1375 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,040 Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's exactly the type of like quarter you 1376 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,280 Speaker 1: want to see from a young quarterback you believe in 1377 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 1: because he's showing you something. He's flashing but if he 1378 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 1: goes to Atlanta and follows it up with another, you know, 1379 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: performance that is a man or worse performance, then you 1380 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 1: lose that juice. But yeah, so what you're gonna saying, 1381 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 1: build off that win? Uh, and then maybe we could 1382 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 1: start getting a little excited Greg's earlier there. I get it, Greg, 1383 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 1: Greg and West and other people in the football gagnets 1384 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 1: anthy that's a bit said a bit differently that time. 1385 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 1: Have been excited about the Broncos for weeks, and you've 1386 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 1: got your little cookie against the Chargers. Well, now, let's 1387 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: see if this is going to go next level. Let's 1388 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,120 Speaker 1: get a whole cake, a whole bunch of desserts. All right, 1389 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: one game, right, one one remaining game on Sunday night. 1390 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna, hey, Nick, gonna need you to grab 1391 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 1: giants at at Washington. But and he's gonna shrug his shoulders, 1392 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, man, I love Nick Shook. 1393 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 1: He assaulted the earth. He'll he'll say, yes, but I 1394 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 1: wonder if inside he's slightly annoyed. Man, what a year, 1395 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 1: What a what an ad Shook has been unfortunately without 1396 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 1: West for long stretches of the season, as he continues 1397 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: his cancer fight and we love you wes Uh and 1398 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 1: we hope to get him back soon. But Shook has 1399 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: been a huge value add He's done great job. Every 1400 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 1: Sunday night read his weekly top ten columns. He goes 1401 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 1: through a variety of you know, positional rankings, and this 1402 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 1: week it was like the most disruptive players on defense, 1403 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: not like in the locker room, not personality wise. I 1404 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 1: mean he did. He does a great job with these, 1405 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 1: So you know and go find Allen of this season. 1406 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, just brings the media energy, might fumble the 1407 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 1: ball a couple of times, but you know, it brings 1408 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 1: some fun to it there about. I just wanted to 1409 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 1: I just want to get a text from Shook that's like, 1410 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 1: why are you calling me? Kind Shooks like one, remember 1411 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 1: like every every once in a while you see some 1412 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 1: viral thing of like a seven year old that has 1413 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 1: as a bodybuilder. I'm convinced that there's photos of Shook 1414 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 1: when from like nine and he's completely jacked. I think 1415 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 1: that's a thing. I think you're right because his dad 1416 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 1: is a jacked gentleman as well, so I think it's 1417 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 1: been in the family like for a while. I don't 1418 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,479 Speaker 1: think joke just started lifting weights like two months before 1419 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 1: he showed up in Los Angeles. Jack bros. All right, 1420 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 1: let's get into Giants at Washington. Greg, what do you 1421 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 1: think about this game? I like Washington watching the Washington 1422 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 1: football team more than I anticipated because I think Scott 1423 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 1: Turner's offense is pretty creative. They've been better with Kyle 1424 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,440 Speaker 1: and he's definitely gonna give you a chance to you know, 1425 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 1: turn the ball over a couple of times, but at 1426 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 1: least the ball moves, and Antonio Gibson is just a 1427 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,320 Speaker 1: powerful runner. They have guys who can make plays. Terry 1428 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,760 Speaker 1: McLaurin I think is a future star if he's not 1429 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 1: there already. They have Chase Young, they have Montes Sweat, 1430 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,679 Speaker 1: you know, their secondary. Their defense is it's a pretty 1431 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 1: good defense, and so I kind of trust them in 1432 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 1: this game. I know they lost the Giants a few 1433 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,520 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Uh it was really based on the turnovers 1434 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 1: that Alan had it that was his first start. But 1435 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 1: they at least have some players that can win one 1436 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 1: on one. The Giants, to me, just don't have the juice. 1437 01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 1: They're well coached, but they don't have the players. You know, 1438 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 1: one thing on Antonio Gibson and Scott Turner, and we always, 1439 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, I always talking about Kyle Shanahan, son of 1440 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 1: a coach, but Scott Turner obviously the son of Norv Turner, 1441 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,439 Speaker 1: and he's been around for a really long time. And 1442 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 1: he was the one, if from what I read, that 1443 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 1: really pushed for Antonio Gibson, and it was someone with 1444 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,920 Speaker 1: not a large sample size as a running back in college. 1445 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't the same way with Bryce Love, who you know, 1446 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: had massive carries and tempts and touches. They projected him 1447 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 1: as sort of a Christian McCaffrey type, and I'm not 1448 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 1: sure that's the case, but he has been impactful. And 1449 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 1: you're right, Washington has pieces that you can look into 1450 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 1: the future and if they right get that they find 1451 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 1: the right quarterback, there's something going on there. I I 1452 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 1: don't think the Giants, though, are a gigantic mess there 1453 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: to the sense of their defense, to me, is playing 1454 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,519 Speaker 1: above water better than what I thought. And I know Greg, 1455 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,639 Speaker 1: I know that, you know, I know that Daniel Jones 1456 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 1: at some point burned down like your childhood home. And 1457 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 1: they might need to find a new quarterback at some 1458 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: point here. But they have other things going on that. 1459 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 1: I was a fan. I'm frustrated, and I just thought 1460 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 1: that that performance, granted it's an island game, the whole 1461 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 1: country's watching. I just thought people were kind of under playing. 1462 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 1: How is one of the worst games any quarterbacks played 1463 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 1: all year, maybe the worst. And it's coming off the 1464 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 1: It was coming off the game where he did the 1465 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 1: trip and it's like your problem for him is like 1466 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: you start to play yourself out of the beholder business 1467 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: on national TV right right? The trip game was an 1468 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,680 Speaker 1: island game as well, and that's just I think, now 1469 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 1: it's over and he did I know you didn't like 1470 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 1: that last drive against a very good defense. Was it 1471 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: was lock? Whatever? I mean? Well, I mean I don't 1472 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,760 Speaker 1: want to pull the you never played card, But he 1473 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 1: he made the throws and he made the plays and scored. 1474 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: But he say they had they called the perfect play 1475 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 1: on the two point conversion. I think all thirty one 1476 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks it was his first read. Just throw the 1477 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: ball and that and that was emblematic to me of 1478 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 1: the whole night. I get it. And if you have 1479 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 1: doubts about Daniel Jones, it is totally fair. But yeah, 1480 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 1: the Giants defense has been okay. It's been pretty good 1481 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: this year and the Washington These are two teams, like 1482 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 1: who's going to potentially catch the Eagles in the NFC East. 1483 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: It's one of these two teams. Most likely, I think 1484 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 1: it's neither of them. I think it's the Eagles that 1485 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,640 Speaker 1: are gonna limp to a division win. But I guess you, 1486 01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 1: if you squint, you can make a case for one 1487 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,720 Speaker 1: of these teams. I would to pay if I had 1488 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 1: to pick between two of them, would be Washington because 1489 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: the defense is a little higher ceiling and if Kyle 1490 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,200 Speaker 1: Allen could be okay, maybe they can get on a 1491 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 1: little run there. But I don't know. This is a 1492 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,880 Speaker 1: hard game to get excited about. At the end of 1493 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 1: the day, it is there's one little nugget from this 1494 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,599 Speaker 1: Washington team. But I don't think we mentioned in our 1495 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,400 Speaker 1: show that Ron Rivera last week appeared to have his 1496 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: last treatment for his cancer. Suits he's awesome. I mean 1497 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 1: for him to go through what he's gone through, and 1498 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 1: for our show, we all know that that means a 1499 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 1: lot more. But um, I mean, this is a guy 1500 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 1: that never once complained about it, and being a head 1501 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 1: coach already shuts you out from your family from regular life, 1502 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: from everything. I mean, these guys already do these hours 1503 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,040 Speaker 1: that are insane. So to put to tack that on 1504 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 1: and get through it and have us talk about Washington 1505 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 1: as a team that is still maybe has a chance 1506 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 1: in this division is impressive. Well. Rivera brings good vibes, 1507 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, and I think that's important for Washington. This 1508 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,479 Speaker 1: has been one of the most depressing franchises for a while. 1509 01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,600 Speaker 1: Uh you know, not a team that seemed like they 1510 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,120 Speaker 1: were to other happy Like this team seems to be 1511 01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 1: like pulling for each other. They like playing for Rivera 1512 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,560 Speaker 1: all of his teams do. I think that matters. I 1513 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,240 Speaker 1: think it's gonna help him this year. Good call, well said, gentlemen. 1514 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 1: There you go. That is the preview of week nine. 1515 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,800 Speaker 1: Make sure you tune in on Sunday night where we 1516 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,599 Speaker 1: recap each of the games we just laid out here 1517 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,160 Speaker 1: and um, that's what we call the flagship show mark. 1518 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 1: That's that's how we branded it. I mean, that's you 1519 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 1: you tweeted about the other day. I put out a 1520 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,680 Speaker 1: tweet with an actual flagship um that A bunch of 1521 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 1: people came at me saying listen, that's some Some video 1522 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 1: taken from a video game. I'm forty seven. I don't 1523 01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,240 Speaker 1: care where it came. I don't know what video game 1524 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:42,959 Speaker 1: it came from, but I do know what a flagship 1525 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,040 Speaker 1: is historically. Please all right, good and check out our 1526 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 1: mini pod recapping Thursday night football Packers Niners. Until then, 1527 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 1: this is Dan Hanson signing up for a quiet storm 1528 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 1: the Old Boss or Ricky Hollywood in the Whole Gang 1529 01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 1: until Sunday s