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Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from Thenday

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Speaker 2: Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, Football and

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Speaker 2: a sideline reporter for your two and one Houston Texans

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Speaker 2: getting ready to take on the Jacksonville Jaguars. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a lot about the Jaguars tonight because we've got

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Speaker 2: Frank Franzie, my good friend from Jacksonville, who is the

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Speaker 2: play by play man for the Jaguars. He's gonna join

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Speaker 2: Mark Top the second hour, so we're gonna have that

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Speaker 2: for you a little later in the show. We also

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Speaker 2: are going to have Derek Bynett. He's gonna stop by

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Speaker 2: for a little bit at the end of the show

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Speaker 2: with our good friends social media superstar ari Allence. We

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Speaker 2: got that for you at the end of the show

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Speaker 2: as well, so playing between Oh yeah, that's right, Drew

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Speaker 2: Doherty stops by with me for in the Lab and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna give cheers thanks to Modello and that in

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Speaker 2: the Lab is gonna be sponsored.

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Speaker 1: From now on by Exfinity. How about that?

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Speaker 2: That's pretty pretty pretty cool. Chann My favorite Curb Your

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Speaker 2: Enthusiasm character, Larry David Okay, speaking of characters that we

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Speaker 2: love on this show, I don't think there's anybody that

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Speaker 2: qualifies anymore than general manager Nick Casserio.

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Speaker 1: Nick joined Mark and I.

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Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about the Vikings, and we

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Speaker 2: talked a lot about the Jaguars and other things going

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Speaker 2: on with your Texans.

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Speaker 1: So let's get it, Mark, me and Nick Assio.

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Speaker 3: With us now Executive vice president and general manager Nick Assario. Nick,

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Speaker 3: great to see you.

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Speaker 4: Fell It's good to be here.

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Speaker 3: I know, a tough loss against Minnesota, but a big

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Speaker 3: week with Jacksonville coming up right back into the division.

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Speaker 3: What's it going to take to bounce back for the team?

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Speaker 3: I know everybody's getting through it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a week to week endeavor in this league.

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Speaker 5: That's what this is about. So what we have to

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Speaker 5: do is just focus on this week. Can't really change

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Speaker 5: what happened against Minnesota and didn't play our best football.

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Speaker 5: Another opportunity for us here this week, Jacksonville in the

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Speaker 5: division coming into our place. They came in here last

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Speaker 5: year and beat us there late in the year, so

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Speaker 5: good football.

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Speaker 4: Team. Didn't play that well the other night.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, the league is about just flipping a

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Speaker 5: page and moving on to the next opportunity. So we

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Speaker 5: have a lot of experience against his team and against

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Speaker 5: his coaching staff, and some respects. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 5: a little bit a little bit later here, but just

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Speaker 5: got to play better football and just be consistent do

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Speaker 5: the things that are conducive to winning.

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Speaker 4: Nick, I think along those lines.

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Speaker 2: I always think about this, Well, you turn a page

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Speaker 2: and you go on to next week. But easier said

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Speaker 2: than done. What's kind of the biggest thing that goes

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Speaker 2: into all right, let's turn the page. Is it watching

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Speaker 2: the film, being done with it, moving on, not elaborating

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really just going through your process. It's probably

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Speaker 5: not as hard as people think it is. So regardless

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Speaker 5: of what happens in the game that particular day, there's

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Speaker 5: gonna be you're either gonna be excited for what happened

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Speaker 5: didn't play well and didn't go your way. So that's

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Speaker 5: the way this league is. You're probably gonna lose, buy

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Speaker 5: and large, everybody's gonna probably lose. It's a five, six,

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Speaker 5: seven games at some point. I mean, that's LEU at

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Speaker 5: the records last year. So just figure out what you

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Speaker 5: didn't do well. Is it correctable, is it fixable? Are

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Speaker 5: those things. Then you have to look at the opponent

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Speaker 5: and focus on what they do well, the challenges that

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Speaker 5: prepared for those, because that's what the main focus is

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Speaker 3: One thing that stands out to me is how much

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Speaker 3: to occur, and they didn't in that game. Tip ball

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Speaker 4: It's the way it goes.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes the ball bounce is a certain way, So I

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Speaker 5: So just the way it goes sometimes, but you just

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Speaker 5: we just couldn't make enough plays that were conducive to winning.

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Speaker 2: NICK with a team like can you just see hm

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Speaker 2: every four years? Obviously they had a few guys that

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Speaker 2: we do remember and have been here, so we do them.

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Speaker 2: But now you face the Jacksonville Jaguars. I don't think

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Speaker 2: the process is any different. But the fact that it

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Speaker 2: is a division team that you know so intimately, well

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Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't change the preparation, but does it help

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Speaker 2: in a sense that you know Josh heinz Allen, you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're familiar, probably from a personnel standpoint, with their

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Speaker 5: So it's more from a personnel familiarity standpoint. You know

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Speaker 3: Big topic this week about the penalties that occurred in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it just takes a little focus in discipline and

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Speaker 5: twenty two, twenty three penalties, whatever it is. It just

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Speaker 2: All right, I really don't talk about Minnesota anymore, and

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about like we got to fixed penalties.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we'll do that this week. Let's do all that.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about this Jacksonville Jaguars team.

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Speaker 2: We saw them on Monday night, did not have a

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Speaker 2: great night against Buffalo Bills. But last time we saw them,

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Speaker 4: How do we avoid that? Nick? What do you see

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Speaker 5: Sure, in some respects that game will be too dissimilar

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Speaker 5: They talked about it. You watch him play, that's where

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Speaker 5: it starts. I mean two bookends on the edge. I

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Speaker 5: think combined they had twenty seven and change sacks last year.

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Speaker 4: So really productive players.

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Speaker 5: Heinz Allen is as good of an edge rushers in

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Speaker 5: plays with a very high motor. So him and Walker

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Speaker 5: Where they've really had the most changes in the secondary.

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Speaker 5: The main holdover is Cisco, right, so Cisco comes back,

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Speaker 5: Green Bays really playing a nickel Antonio Johnson, a Texas

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Speaker 5: They've had some other injuries take place here. We'll see

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Speaker 5: kind of how they came out of the game last night.

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Speaker 5: But defensively, they're big, they're long, they're explosive, and they

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Speaker 5: and offensively, the skill group for the most part is intact.

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Speaker 5: Trevor signed the extension of the offseason. A key part

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Speaker 5: focal point. I mean, he had almost one hundred catches

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Speaker 5: Signed Morrison for agency who's in Buffalo's in Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: so good offensive line. Signed Duverne to give him some

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Speaker 5: been a consistently productive player. So they're a talented team.

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Speaker 5: So their record is what their record is. Our expectation

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Speaker 5: well coaching the kicking game as well. Heath farewell.

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Speaker 4: So we understand the challenges that are in front of us.

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Speaker 5: We just have to do a good job with our

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Speaker 3: With Trevor, I know what's not going as well as

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Speaker 3: they wanted to right now, but we've seen him at

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Speaker 3: All right, Nick, It's International Day presented by Kroger, and

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Speaker 3: I wanted to get a feel for any international trips

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Speaker 5: So it's just so serene. The food was really good.

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Speaker 5: We had octopus. You know, we enjoyed different foods, but

437
00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,239
Speaker 5: the way they prepare the octopus, so anytime we go

438
00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,679
Speaker 5: eat somewhere, we're always looking for octopus. And you know,

439
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,119
Speaker 5: anytime you get married, hopefully it's a good memory, and

440
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Speaker 5: I would say that trip absolutely was a was an

441
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Speaker 5: awesome trip.

442
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Speaker 2: Okay, did you let your hair down and have some

443
00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,520
Speaker 2: baclava or is that just out of the diet.

444
00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,640
Speaker 5: It did not work that in started disappointing everybody.

445
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Speaker 3: Oh well, everybody'll be happy to be back at the building,

446
00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,600
Speaker 3: right and last time the Texans were at NRG Stadium,

447
00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,440
Speaker 3: great atmosphere of Sunday night football Chicago. And now it's

448
00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,920
Speaker 3: a noon kick AFC South. We're back to the meat

449
00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,240
Speaker 3: and potatoes of it all. But home field is so

450
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Speaker 3: important for the squad's chances.

451
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Speaker 5: It's always good just to be home. You're kind of

452
00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,679
Speaker 5: you know, what's your routine entails, So the crowd is great.

453
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,640
Speaker 5: You know the other night there, you know, the last

454
00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,760
Speaker 5: home game against Chicago, the roof will be closed, so

455
00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,520
Speaker 5: because it'll probably be a little bit warmer.

456
00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,119
Speaker 4: Likely more than likely. But yeah, it's always good to

457
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Speaker 4: be at home.

458
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Speaker 5: And this is a get up and go game, so everybody,

459
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Speaker 5: players included, fans included, get up, get your coffee, get

460
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,480
Speaker 5: ready to go and come in here and hopefully they

461
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Speaker 5: have an impact on a game.

462
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Speaker 3: So looking forward to being back absolutely. Nick, thanks a

463
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Speaker 3: lot for joining us. We appreciate it, thanks fellas.

464
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,040
Speaker 2: Now, trust me, I love going on the road. I

465
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 2: love winning on the road, shutting fans up, all that

466
00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,560
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, But I like being back at NRG

467
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,040
Speaker 2: Stadium more than anything else. So I'm like Nick, really

468
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,919
Speaker 2: excited about this game being back at n RGY Stadium.

469
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Speaker 1: Boy, it's a weekend full of football.

470
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Speaker 2: You've got Texas State taken on Sam Houston that two

471
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Speaker 2: o'clock on Saturday. Then you got to flip everything and

472
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Speaker 2: get ready for Texans at noon against the Jaguars. I'll

473
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,159
Speaker 2: be calling that game Texas State and Sam Houston for television,

474
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 2: myself and Randy McElvoy and hopefully they will give me

475
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,280
Speaker 2: the Telestrader yet again, that was really cool getting a

476
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 2: chance to do a couple weeks ago when they when

477
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 2: Sam Houston beat Hawaii up at Bauer Stadium in Huntsville.

478
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,399
Speaker 2: So looking forward to this matchup. A lot of talent

479
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 2: on each side. So got that on Saturday, and then

480
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 2: of course got the Texans on Sunday.

481
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Speaker 1: Texas State eight point favorite.

482
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,640
Speaker 2: Right now, Texans a seven point favorite over the Jaguars,

483
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Speaker 2: and there's a lot going on with the Jaguars. Mark

484
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 2: and I are going to talk about that, but we

485
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Speaker 2: focus a lot of our efforts on stepping into the

486
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Speaker 2: building on Sunday and establishing the fact that the Texans

487
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Speaker 2: are him.

488
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Speaker 1: Well, well they're them.

489
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Speaker 2: Well you get what I'm saying, right, The kids say, oh,

490
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 2: he's him, Well, the Texans team has to be him

491
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Speaker 2: on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Mark and I discussed that next on Texans Access.

493
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Speaker 4: What's Up, everybody?

494
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to a Wednesday Nation of Texans All Access

495
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Speaker 2: from the Hyundai Texans Radio studio. Mark, I know we

496
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Speaker 2: had we had Nickosario in here on the first segment,

497
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 2: so I wanted to save this news to kick off

498
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Speaker 2: the second segment because our good friend Andre Ware going

499
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Speaker 2: into the Houston Sports Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: I actually was on the phone them.

501
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Speaker 2: I was talking with him yesterday and I was looking

502
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Speaker 2: for something on Twitter and I said, oh, I was like,

503
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 2: this is cool news man, and he goes, what what?

504
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Speaker 4: And I was like, You're going into the Hall of Fame.

505
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 2: You're like, oh yeah, he goes That's why I was

506
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: up at Fox twenty six.

507
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Speaker 4: So I guess he was doing something with Will and

508
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Speaker 4: they were.

509
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Speaker 2: Talking about it and he's just so humble, But I

510
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 2: know our guy listens all the time to us.

511
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Speaker 4: I know he's out there listening.

512
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Speaker 2: And you wrote a tremendous Twitter slash x post about

513
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Speaker 2: our guy, andre Ware. Congratulations to Andrea. Such cool news

514
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Speaker 2: to see him going to the Hall of Fame.

515
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Speaker 3: So cool. Well, so Houston, you know this is the

516
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 3: Houston Sports Hall of Fame, and you know it always

517
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 3: stands out about andreas He's Houston through and through. He

518
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 3: went to the University of Houston. He won the Heisman

519
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: during a very difficult time in that program's history, and

520
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 3: they were able to have the remarkable campaign and many more.

521
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 3: But that was incredible. On probation, no TV, we can

522
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Speaker 3: get into all that stuff. There are other elements of

523
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Speaker 3: him winning that I find really interesting, but he wins it.

524
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Speaker 3: And one thing that I really love about it is

525
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Speaker 3: he always talks about sharing it with the team, and

526
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Speaker 3: he shared it with the city because people around the

527
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Speaker 3: city told me at the time, well at the time

528
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Speaker 3: I got here. So that was much later than when

529
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Speaker 3: he won, because Dre, it's been a while nineteen eighty nine, Okay,

530
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Speaker 3: not to date it.

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Speaker 4: Well, don't make him feel bad. The date is on

532
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Speaker 4: the trophy.

533
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Speaker 3: Sorry, but anyway, but one thing people told me was

534
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Speaker 3: when Dray won the Heisman, the whole city felt like

535
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Speaker 3: they were winning the Heisman. It was a city thing.

536
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 3: And I kind of likened that Andre Johnson getting in

537
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 3: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, we felt like we

538
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 3: all got in. And I love that about that. And

539
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 3: then Dre, not only one that played in the NFL

540
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 3: for a while, built a remarkable broadcast career with ESPN

541
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Speaker 3: and of course Houston Texans radio commentary. And I think

542
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: the guy can do whatever he wants you. He's a

543
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 3: really good basketball coach for his kids, his kids teams,

544
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 3: and he loves coaching. I mean it's not just say

545
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 3: I want to coach my kid, he wants he loves coaching.

546
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: I know he loves it very much. And I always

547
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 3: say that, and I know you feel this way too, Johnny.

548
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 3: The parts of Dre that people don't see much, the

549
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 3: sense of humor it comes out sometimes, don't get me wrong,

550
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: But there's a lot more there. There's a lot more

551
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 3: there that people see, and I sometimes think that maybe

552
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: it'd be cool if he showed that a little more,

553
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 3: like had a podcast or something, a vehicle, a sitcom.

554
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 3: We need a sitcom with Andre Ware something like that,

555
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 3: because he's really funny. When I did the show with

556
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Speaker 3: him from seven through nine, the Morning Drive program, I

557
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 3: would laugh every day. We laughed every day, and he

558
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 3: just has that. And I didn't really know that much

559
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: about him in that way at that point, but it's

560
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 3: so constant, consistent, his ability to generate humor out of things,

561
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: and sometimes he doesn't even know he's doing it because

562
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: he's just it's natural, off the cuff stuff. So anyway,

563
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: a few things there about Andre great guy, great friend,

564
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 3: great father, great broadcaster, and great that he's getting into

565
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 3: the Houston Sports Hall of Fame.

566
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Speaker 4: So back in twenty.

567
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Speaker 2: Twenty one, we went to Buffalo and we go up

568
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Speaker 2: there and our buddy Sa Capaccio had said, look, I'm

569
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Speaker 2: gonna take care of you guys, take you out to dinner,

570
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: all that.

571
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Speaker 4: Kind of stuff.

572
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Speaker 2: And so then at the very end, salgoes, will Drake come,

573
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Speaker 2: Will Andre come to dinner?

574
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Speaker 4: And I said, you know, at that point, Drey would

575
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Speaker 4: sometimes come sometimes not.

576
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Speaker 3: It still wasn't on the Friday night thing always right,

577
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 3: you're right, So it was not always a guarantee whether

578
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Speaker 3: he could be there or not.

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I said to Drea said, Hey, Drea,

580
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 2: sad when we get the buffalo, I said, my buddy

581
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: Sal wants wants, uh wants to take us all out

582
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 2: and take us to eat, take us to get a

583
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: you know, wing place. You know, Salad knows buffalo, and

584
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: he's like, all right, man, let's do it.

585
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,239
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

586
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 2: And so it just so happened that Andre ended up

587
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: sitting in shotgun next to salas sal was driving, Yeah,

588
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: and it was like those two just struck up a conversation,

589
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: a friendship, and we got done and we're all saying goodbye,

590
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: and Sala walks up and we hug at each other

591
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: good night, and he's like, dude, Andre, where was in

592
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: my car? Like he thought that was the coolest thing.

593
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: And it was not something we ever take for granted

594
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: at all that we know, Dre. But I've often told people,

595
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, what you guys here on the broadcast,

596
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: if you could hear during the breaks, how much fun

597
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: we have talking not only about football, but you know jerseys.

598
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: We see in the crowd, crazy things that are happening,

599
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,239
Speaker 2: you know, the food that's outside.

600
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 4: The the you know, the the.

601
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: Booth where you know, you guys are eating food and

602
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 2: giving food reviews, and meanwhile I'm downstairs starving, and you know,

603
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: just the fun that we have with each other. I

604
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: think it would be it would be cool for people

605
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 2: to see all of that. But the fact that Dre

606
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: is going into the Houston Sports Hall Fame is just

607
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: And there have been others that we have been connected

608
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 2: to that we know that have gone into the Hall

609
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: of Fame. But you know this our guy. This is

610
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: a guy that we've done every Sunday with. I say Sunday,

611
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: it could be Thursday, whatever, but you get the point

612
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: for me, since twenty fourteen. You've been doing it with

613
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: him since the beginning, and mention through some tremendous, tremendous.

614
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 4: Stuff all together.

615
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: And we've also had to like kind of hang on

616
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: to each other through some tough times as well, but

617
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: we've gotten through it all and it was just great

618
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 2: to see our good friend go into the Sports Hall Fame.

619
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Speaker 2: There was a question that came up for Demiko Ryans

620
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Speaker 2: and it actually came up for CJ.

621
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Speaker 4: Strout.

622
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Speaker 2: I want to ask your thoughts on this mark because

623
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Speaker 2: I feel like Sunday lingered from me a lot longer

624
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: than twenty four hours but they were at is the

625
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: loss of the Vikings behind you, And I feel like

626
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: like for me, I feel like it lingered on into yesterday.

627
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: And that's happened before, but it felt like for me

628
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: just that loss kind of just kind of hovered. And

629
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: part of it was I went to lunch with friends

630
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: of mine on Tuesday rehashing, and they were rehashing the

631
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: whole thing, and they're like, well, why why did this happen?

632
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: And so I all right, well, you know, so that

633
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: was probably part of it. But how important do you

634
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: think it is that they've gotten that behind them and

635
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 2: they don't let the Vikings beat them twice?

636
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

637
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: I know you're big on the beat them twice thing,

638
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: that being a possibility and something to fight against for that.

639
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 3: I felt similarly in that Tuesday morning. I was almost

640
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 3: more upset about it Tuesday morning than it was Monday morning.

641
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: Monday morning, I was still kind of dealing with it,

642
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 3: and we get on the air and everything's just fresh

643
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: and talk through it. Yeah, get through it. And Tuesday

644
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 3: I thought, man, I can't believe that happened that way.

645
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: It's that way part of the losing you're gonna.

646
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 4: Lose in the NFL. I get it.

647
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: You're not going seventeen and oh that was a tough one.

648
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: You went up there, you lost. The way you lost

649
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: was bad. But again I don't know, wake up call.

650
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: You know, we talked about it yesterday. All these little

651
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: things that could go wrong did go wrong, and it

652
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: just snowballed from there. You know, you're down fourteen nothing

653
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: at the half. You have a perfect opportunity to get

654
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: back into this game a couple of times, and you're

655
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: not able to do it. So that was too bad.

656
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: But I think, yeah, they got to put it behind them.

657
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: And to me, it's so tricky because let's say the

658
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: Jags had beaten the Bills or played close. The Jags

659
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 3: going through what they're going through, I wonder what kind

660
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: of effect that has on the Texans. Could you imagine

661
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: if you had Buffalo this week? I don't know how

662
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: to play. It's the team in front of you, and

663
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: I think that the message is pretty clear that no

664
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: matter who it is in front of you, you got to

665
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: take care of your business. You didn't take care of

666
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: your business, take care of your business. Dimiko Ryans basically

667
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: said that at the podium today. So take care of

668
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: your business, everybody, and take care of the Jags. This

669
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 3: is no easy team. Now, you and I will talk

670
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: more this week, but I got a feeling this thing's

671
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: coming down to the wire. And if I am a

672
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: Texan and I go into this game expecting anything less, now,

673
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: I'd love to see it be a blowout win for

674
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: me and like, let's move on and go three and

675
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: one and rock and roll. But Johnny, I almost anticipate

676
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: every NFL game to go down to the wire. But

677
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: I think in the fourth quarter, this thing's in doubt

678
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 3: because they are fighting for their lives right their coaches, job,

679
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: their lives, their careers, their season lives. You know, I'm

680
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: not being serious here, but their season hangs in the balance.

681
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: You go, oh, in four. I know they've had reversals before,

682
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: like two years ago. You go, oh and four. M.

683
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: That's a tough pill to swallow. That's a tough hole

684
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: to climb out of.

685
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when Seat Khan, the owner, had made comments

686
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: about essentially winning and going to the playoffs is the

687
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: only acceptable alternative for this team, and he's he kind

688
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: of put that pressure on the team, which I mean,

689
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't I don't mind. I mean if I'm a

690
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: you know, if I'm a player, a coach, you know,

691
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: whatever our role, I don't mind my I you know,

692
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: if you know Calum McNair family said that about the Texans,

693
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: which I'm sure in their heart of hearts they believe that.

694
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: Especially now, then we start out oh and four like

695
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: oh boy, like you start thinking about, Okay, what's gonna happen.

696
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: I want to see kind of a performance like Tennessee

697
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: last year beat them twenty six to three, and even

698
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: though we did score a ton of points, it was

699
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: just you guys are in a bad way right now,

700
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: and we're gonna make it worse.

701
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: Well, we're just gonna take care of our business.

702
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: And the reason I bring that game up and and

703
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: and listen, I don't know anything from anything from any

704
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: any organization.

705
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 4: I don't know anything at all. I got a feeling, though,

706
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: if the.

707
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: Jaguars do struggle against us and we we win a

708
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: game twenty six to three, and it's not even the

709
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: Jaguars aren't even really in the game, I do think

710
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: there are gonna be some some he that might roll

711
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: at that point.

712
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: Well, what's happened here? Yeah?

713
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: Exactly.

714
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: And that was a team and that was a team

715
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: that had expectation too. But here's here's where that Tennessee

716
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: game stands out. I'll never forget this because we saw

717
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel coach here. We saw Mike Rabel coach in Tennessee,

718
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: and I'll never forget this. We're getting ready for that game,

719
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: and I looked across the field at one point, this

720
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: is just like two hours for the game, and I

721
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: looked across the field on the other side and I

722
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: was like, Rabel just was sitting on the bench and

723
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: he just kind of had his legs crossed.

724
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: He was just there, and I was like, that's not

725
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 4: usually Rabel.

726
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: Like Rabel's got hopped to his step, you know, he's

727
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: he's poking at somebody about yeah, exactly. And I just

728
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: looked over and went that looks sort of defeated. And

729
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: I wondered at that point, like something going on. But

730
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: I also felt, Okay, I like seeing them like that

731
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: because we're just gonna take care of work and we'll

732
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: go win the game. And that's what we did win

733
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: in that game, twenty six to three. It wasn't even close.

734
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm kind of hoping that's the way Jacksonville comes in there.

735
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: Of Okay, they're hoping for good things to happen, but

736
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: we're sitting over here going we're gonna make our guys

737
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: are gonna make it happen, right, And so that game

738
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: from Tennessee last year at home stands out, and of

739
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: course Levis got sacked with five six times and Tannehill

740
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: comes in, he gets sacked another couple of times by

741
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: Will Anderson. In the game is not a game in

742
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: the second half. And now at that point, by the

743
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: second half, we're preparing for Indianapolis in week eighteen. We're

744
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: starting to hear, okay, we might play on Saturday. This

745
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: is you know, to get into playoffs, all that kind

746
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: of stuff. So that was just really just taking care

747
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: of work. And I don't care how it gets done

748
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: on Sunday, but I'm with you. I do have a

749
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: feeling it that thing, especially with Trevor at quarterback, that

750
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: if he starts finding the sauce, that he can make

751
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: that thing really really interesting.

752
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: If we're not mining our p's and q's.

753
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: You know what, this team needs to learn to do

754
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: win consistently. That's a thing because last year, look, you climbed,

755
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: you were kind of nip and tuck with five hundred

756
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: throughout much of the year, right, and then you go

757
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: at the end you have the surge to go to

758
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: ten and seven. And obviously we know what happened in

759
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: the playoffs that was really good. What has to happen

760
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: now if you're going to be one of those teams

761
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: and by those teams I mean Coach mean Buffalo, Kansas City,

762
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers, the Eagles. You want to be

763
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 3: in that group. You want even the Steelers. You could say,

764
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: because they they won ten games last year, did they not?

765
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: They're off to a three and zero start. But look,

766
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: the Steelers might not be the best example in this context.

767
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: But if you want to be one of those teams

768
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: the Ravens, be one of those teams. Every week, every week,

769
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: you're going to get a great game out of your opponent.

770
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: They want to beat you so bad. You got to

771
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: be ready for that, and you have to be willing

772
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: or able to play your standard of football, your high

773
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: standard every single week. You know, we talk about a

774
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: prime time and the routine changes and listen, listen. If

775
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: you're a good team, you got to deal with everything,

776
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: all of that different routines. People wanted to take your

777
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: lunch money every week. Get ready, buckle up, it's happening.

778
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: The Jags want you so bad because you are the

779
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: division favorites and it doesn't matter what you just they're

780
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: not gonna lay down here in front of you. And

781
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: I know everybody knows this, but human nature is a thing.

782
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: You gotta be willing and able to fight that off.

783
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: So you got me thinking about something.

784
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 7: So I pulled up last your schedule, last year's schedule. Yeah,

785
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 7: this just kind of kind of hit me. One of

786
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 7: the things you talk about your consistency. You know, there's

787
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 7: a point in the season.

788
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: You obviously win the three in a row with Tampa Bay, Cincinnati,

789
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: come back beat Arizona.

790
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, then we lose that game to the Jaguars.

791
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: So it goes win loss, win loss, win loss til

792
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: you get to the final two. And then you win

793
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: those two and then you start the year with win

794
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: win loss. And I'm not saying you're gonna win nine

795
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: in a row, but I think just more consistency in

796
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: you know, four or five game winning st during a year,

797
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: playing well for that stretch of time.

798
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: Here's the other thing that stands out.

799
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so we beat the Buccaneers, and we beat the

800
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 2: Bengals and we score thirty nine and thirty right right,

801
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: listen to this. Take the Browns playoff game out for

802
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: a second, Okay, because also in that game twice defensively

803
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: Arizona twenty one. These are the points that we've scored.

804
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: Arizona twenty one won that game. Jacksonville twenty one lost

805
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: that game, Broncos twenty two won that game, Jets six

806
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: lost that game, Titans nineteen won that game over to

807
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: Browns twenty two lost it. Tennessee twenty six, Indianapolis twenty three,

808
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 2: Indianapolis to start this year twenty nine, then we too,

809
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 2: Chicago nineteen, Minnesota seven.

810
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: You're not scoring a lot of points. You're not scoring

811
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 3: a ton of points, yeah, and you need to find

812
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: a way to do it. Look, now, you don't have

813
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: to hit thirty every game. We know this, of course

814
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 3: you can't. If you do, you're a juggernaut. But how

815
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: many games did I just ripped through? Or you haven't

816
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: gotten to thirty with your offense? Well, your highest was

817
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: twenty six. Yeah, it's a good point to bring up, Johnny.

818
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: They need to be more consistent in that way too.

819
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: And I think running the ball goes into that, you know,

820
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 3: the mixed attack that they covet they want to be

821
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: able to. It's not just we want to line up

822
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: out of the eye formation and run the ball thirty

823
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: times a game. It's not like that when we say

824
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: running game. It's a mix. It's part of it. It's

825
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 3: get over one hundred yards for at least a back

826
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: or you know, one twenty five as a team plus

827
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: would be very nice, you know. And on defense, Dimiko

828
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: talked about this the other day, Well, we allowed a

829
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 3: one hundred yard rusher, and when you could tell the

830
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: pain that it took him to even say that allowing

831
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: a one hundred yard rusher, it's on a board somewhere

832
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: in this building, maybe multiple do not allow a one

833
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 3: hundred yard rusher. That's a recipe for disaster. Are you kidding?

834
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 3: So I do know what happens, and you can still

835
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: win the game. You're still allowed to win the game

836
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: when you allow a one hundred yard rusher. But that

837
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: is one thing that they desperately do not want to do,

838
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: and that, believe me, etn Bigsby, that is on the

839
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: docket this week of things that cannot happen.

840
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no question.

841
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: But it was the more I think about it and

842
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: I look at that, it's and look the offense found

843
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: it's its way. Michael Deaders playing center the third you

844
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: know he's a third string center. You're playing with the

845
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback. Still, even though it's CJ. You're playing with

846
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: the rookie quarterback. You did enough to win those games,

847
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: and you did enough offensively in those games to go win.

848
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously.

849
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: Indianapolis, you know, you didn't run the ball exceptionally well,

850
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: but CJ threw it the times you need to throw it.

851
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 2: Even in Week one this year at Indianapolis, you over

852
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 2: two hundred yards rushing, So you've done good things offensively.

853
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: But I think, what to me that's that's showing me

854
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: is the defense is having to play at a They

855
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: have to be at volume nine.

856
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 3: Or ten the opponent below twenty.

857
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: And that's hard to do it right, and that's really

858
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: really difficult to do. This has got to be one

859
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 2: of those where you know, you put them in there,

860
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: like if you shut them down the first two or

861
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: three drives and maybe one of those drives ends up

862
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: with a Trevor turnover, you can really put a number

863
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: on them. And really make them feel especially being zero

864
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: to three at this point. But that's got to be

865
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: the mentality, Like the swarm mentality I think has been defensively,

866
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: it's there, like it's there, and these guys defensively, look,

867
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: they haven't done every technique right, they haven't filled every

868
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: gap properly, but you see the swarm mentality. The swarm

869
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: mentality has to carry over to the offense. It's got

870
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: to be there. And Okay, but isn't swarm kind of

871
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: a defensive mentality. No, it's a complete and total team mindset.

872
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: It's an onslaught. Okay, that's right, that's exactly right. Onslought

873
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: be overwhelming to the opponent when you're on offense. That's

874
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 3: what they want, you know. We'll see how the tank

875
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: situation affects things here, Johnny. That play tank the you

876
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: know which one I'm talking about though, really quick throw

877
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: that went long and it was called back and yes, yes, yes,

878
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: that was a hell of a play. Great plays in

879
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 3: this game. And that's what I think Demko was trying

880
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: to spin around, not spin, but spin things around and

881
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: point out, listen, we did some things. We're good, we

882
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: can do some things. I like what we have to

883
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: work with here. We just have to work better with it.

884
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: You know, he took a positive approach, and I think

885
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: he has to do that. It's like, listen, I am

886
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 3: not overhauling the team after three games or after one

887
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: bad loss. We're gonna work with these guys and we're

888
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: gonna make it work out and execute against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

889
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: But as you say what you said about the Jags,

890
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: and you know, if they have a couple of bad series,

891
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: he shut them down. You get to turn over great.

892
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: But I fully expect them to be guns blazing themselves,

893
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: and you know they're gonna punch one in early maybe

894
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to deal with it. You're gonna

895
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: have to deal with the Jaguars. As our buddy, Mitch Holf,

896
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: this of the Chiefs would got to deal with the

897
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars. And you mentioned also waiting or hoping good

898
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: things happen. But we've seen that. We've seen that with

899
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: the Texans when they went to their years of struggle,

900
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 3: they'd have games like Philadelphia punch one in. It's fourteen fourteen.

901
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: At the half, you're right there with them. At Dallas.

902
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: We're leading them late Kansas City. Over time, you know,

903
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: you have those moments. And I'm not even putting the

904
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: Jags in that class of team because the Jacks have

905
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 3: way more talent than that. They're totally underperforming right now.

906
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: You just don't want them to start performing against you.

907
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: You know what I like though, all Right, beat the

908
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: Jags Sunday, don't fire anybody, let them work it out

909
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: a little bit, and then let them get hot enough

910
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: to help us out beat the Colts to following we

911
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: give them a big dent as the Jags go to

912
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: one and four.

913
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 4: I'm down with that.

914
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: Please beat the Colts back at your place in week five.

915
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: Oh, that always happens, Yes, that always happens.

916
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: That my old point with two or three series, where

917
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: you just you extinguish.

918
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: Hope and yeah, that's that's a way to put it

919
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: against bad teams. Put them away, put them away. Yeah,

920
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 3: don't allow them to think.

921
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 2: Kind of like you said, our teams back in twenty

922
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: one in particular, like there'd be a fourteen to sevent

923
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: we get down ten to fourteen, and it's like, I

924
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: don't know if we can make that up. Oh, have

925
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: we extinguished hope and belief? That's what we got to

926
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 2: do for them. Can I many rash hope and belief?

927
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: Can I many rant for a moment here?

928
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: Of course you can, because a lot of people look

929
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: I ingest a lot of the media stuff, right, and

930
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, well, if you're so smart, how come you

931
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: didn't see it coming? You know what I mean?

932
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 4: You know, I know you're mad that you were wrong about.

933
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: The Texans doing well at Minnesota or at least being

934
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: competitive or maybe winning the game, and now you're upset

935
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: that they lost it.

936
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 6: I get it.

937
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 3: I get being upset, but hey, this happens, and you

938
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: got to deal with it. It's just like watching the

939
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: Astros clinch and congratulations by the way, yes, but watching

940
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: them clinch, I want to I know there are receipts

941
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: out there of everybody who bailed on the team, and

942
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: they did ten games out June unbelievable, right, they were

943
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 3: ten games out June eighteenth? Was that the date? That's

944
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: incredible stuff that they came back from that. And but

945
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: you know, it's like the tombstone in five, right, It's

946
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: like everybody give it up at four. And that's why

947
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: I never gave up on them, because I thought you

948
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: gotta let this thing play. There's too many games left,

949
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 3: you know, and they have a lot of talent, and

950
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: not that I thought that they would necessarily turn it around.

951
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, maybe this is it, Maybe it's the

952
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: end of the run here. Apparently not, And now everybody's like, wooo,

953
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 3: but hey, you gave up on them, you literally gave

954
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: up on them. Well now I'm back, So I get it.

955
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: It's a big reaction, and we have no choice but

956
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: to observe. We're not actually in these games. We're just

957
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: reacting to these games. But let me let me throw

958
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: another one at you, Buffalo, because Buffalo's off to a

959
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 3: three and zh start, and everybody's darling right now. But

960
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: everybody will be killing Buffalo if they don't make it

961
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: past to the division round this year, because that's just

962
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: the way it is in sports. But that's okay, because

963
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 3: that's you know, that's what we deal with here. But

964
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: I salute the Bills because I thought the Bills would

965
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: struggle more than this, more than three and zero. I

966
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: thought they'd struggle more than three and Oh Johnny, Now,

967
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: I thought the Bills it would be a little bit

968
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: and still might be a rougher year. Than we think.

969
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: But I salute them for being a day in, day out, weekend,

970
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: week out team that you got to deal with. Y. Yeah,

971
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: and they find a way to get there. It's a

972
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: good organization. They flip that roster two three times since

973
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: Allen's been there, and especially this past offseason, and they're

974
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: off to this terrific start. You want to be like

975
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: that now. You want to be better in the playoffs.

976
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: I get it, But the whole point is to get

977
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: to the playoffs, so you have that opportunity to be

978
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: better and to get there is hard. It's the seventeen

979
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: game climb to get there, and we're.

980
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: In it right now. Yeah.

981
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we will get our shot at the Bills

982
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: next week.

983
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. This week it's the Jags.

984
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: And for the Jags, injuries have been part of the

985
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: story and they will be for this week. The injury

986
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: report has come out. How does it show on both

987
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: sides of the ball. We'll discuss that next we go

988
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: around the NFL right here on Texans All Access. All Right,

989
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: here we go Wednesday issue of Texans All Access.

990
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: Appreciate you being here with me.

991
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: John Harris Foot playing on a sideline reporter for your

992
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: Houston Texans, and it is time to dive into a

993
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: pretty interesting injury report, which I don't even love to

994
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: talk about, but it's worth talking about on a Wednesday

995
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: because that's the first time you see the guys and

996
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: the first time an injury report comes out since the

997
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: game on Sunday. And obviously there was some carnage from

998
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: that game, including one of the big three at wide receiver.

999
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: So let's get into it with your Texans and this

1000
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 2: injury report. Start with Tank Dell. He was a DNP

1001
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: on Wednesday with a chest injury. Now there's been some

1002
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: talk about a wrist and a hand or something like that,

1003
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: and then there's this chest. So he's listed here as

1004
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: just chess did not participate. I kind of felt like,

1005
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: and I told Mark this as we were walking to

1006
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: the bus or on the bus leaving Minnesota. Just from

1007
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: the looks of it, I thought, m I don't know, man,

1008
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: he looks.

1009
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: Pretty beat up.

1010
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: Hopefully he's gonna be okay and the Texans will have

1011
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: to do some things at wide receiver. Now that's a

1012
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: tough dude, think about all he's been through, the broken

1013
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: leg last year, gets from back from that, he gets shot,

1014
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: he comes back from that and now he's dealing with this.

1015
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see Tank and do time. Just hate

1016
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 2: that he's banged up, but he's got a chest issue.

1017
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: Fully fought. T Tokosi dealing with shoulder, he did not participate,

1018
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: and then two running backs they have not participated in

1019
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: a while now. Aaron Wilson did say that Damian Pierce

1020
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: was close to returning, but he did not practice today.

1021
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: So Damian Pierce hamstring.

1022
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: Issue, Joe Mixon with that ankle, so neither one of

1023
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: them participating.

1024
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: Limited participants.

1025
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: I figured Jared Patterson would be on here with that

1026
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 2: calf issue that he hurt against Chicago. Dalton Schultz also

1027
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: on there with an ankle issue, Jimmy Ward a groin

1028
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 2: and then this one stunk and hopefully he's gonna be okay.

1029
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: It's Kenny Green deal with illness.

1030
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: So they were those four were limited and the four

1031
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 2: that did not participate. Tank Dell fully fought to COSTI,

1032
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon, Damian Pierce, and imagine Folly wants to get

1033
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: after it against his former team to Jacksonville Jaguars.

1034
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 4: So we'll see you.

1035
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: Hope that children's gonna be okay because he's gonna be

1036
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: a big factor in this game against the Jaguars. Now,

1037
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: the Jaguars had a number of injury issues on Monday

1038
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: night against the Bills that compound the situation that they

1039
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: already had. The one that they already had was Evan

1040
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 2: Ingram dealing with the hamstring. He missed that game against

1041
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: the Bills, and we know how much Trevor Lawrence loves

1042
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: throwing to Evan Ingram. He again on Wednesday did not

1043
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: participate due to that hamstring. This one now has been

1044
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: out for a few days. They're not gonna put him

1045
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: on ir so kind of ride the wave until you

1046
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: see him as an inactive on Sunday.

1047
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: And this is a big one.

1048
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: Foyer Lucon, the linebacker for the Jacksonville Jaguars who has

1049
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: always played well against the Texans. With Planner faeschitis in

1050
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: his foot, the thought is that he's gonna miss two

1051
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: or three weeks. That of course includes this Texans game.

1052
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: But those two are hugely important to the Jacksonville Jaguars turnaround.

1053
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: They were both DMPs.

1054
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: Now, guys that got hurt on Monday night include Cam

1055
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: Robinson dealing with the knee, Anton Harrison dealing with the knee,

1056
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis dealing with his shoulder, Jerry Jones got hurt

1057
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: in like the third fourth play, defensive back dealing with

1058
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: his shoulder. Those guys all got hurt against Buffalo. They

1059
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: were limited participants. Tank Bigsby added to that group as well,

1060
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: Darnold Savage dealing with the quad, and then Montery Brown

1061
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: also a corner with a chest issue. So Jacksonville's got

1062
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: Is it worse or better than the Texans?

1063
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just know that you're looking at those.

1064
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: Two that did not participate as huge factors in that

1065
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,959
Speaker 2: particular offense and defense leaders on each side of the ball.

1066
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: And then you got your two starting tackles as limited.

1067
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: You've got a starting receiver as limited, starting safety as limited,

1068
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: a corner as limited. All you got Tyson Campbell on IR.

1069
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, tough things going on injury wise in Jacksonville.

1070
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: But there's no mercy in this game. This is a

1071
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: Cobra Kai game. There's no mercy, Strike fast, strike hard,

1072
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: no mercy, sir. That's the way this one's got to be,

1073
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: no matter who's playing for the Jacks. But it is

1074
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: good to know who is playing and who is not

1075
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: on both sides. We're not quite there yet with the

1076
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: status report, but the Wednesday injury report kind of starts

1077
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: leading you in that direction to what you potentially may

1078
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: not see do to those injuries.

1079
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 4: All right, we got one hour down, one hour left

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Speaker 4: to go.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna kick it off with Men behind the Mics,

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Speaker 2: Mark Vandermier, the Voice of the Texans, with the voice

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00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: of the Jaguars, our good friend Frank Franzi next on

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Speaker 2: Texans All Access. Here we go our second hour of

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00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: this show, Texans All Access from the Texans Radio studio.

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00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: I am your host, John Harris, football sideline reporter for

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00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: your Houston Texans.

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00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: Glad you are with me this evening. Now, a lot

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00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: of you know my past.

1090
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: I first out of college back in nineteen ninety four.

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00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: It's a long time ago. It is thirty years man,

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00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: that's crazy.

1093
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: I started off in Jacksonville, Floorida. I was a teacher

1094
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 2: and coach the Episcopal High School. And over the years

1095
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: I was in Jacksonville, I became friends with a young

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00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: man by the name of Frank Franjie.

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Speaker 1: Well we have continued to stay in touch.

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00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: But as this is our Men behind the Mike's segment,

1099
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: it was important that Mark sat down with Frank. We've

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00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: all become very good friends over the years to discuss

1101
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: this one. On Sunday, the last time the Jaguars were

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00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 2: in NRG Stadium, Madame Mendola kicked a fifty nine yard

1103
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: field goal attempt just inches short as he hit the

1104
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: crossbar and it bounced away, not over, and the Jaguars

1105
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: celebrated that day.

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00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: They became eight and three.

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00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: This is now a different Jaguars team and organization, but

1108
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna come back to NRG Stadium ready to replicate

1109
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: that twenty four to twenty one win over the Texans

1110
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: last year. Frank's been calling every game of Theirs for

1111
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 2: a long time. He has seen the good, the bad,

1112
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 2: the ugly. It's ugly right now, but it definitely could

1113
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: turn good in a hurry. Here are Mark vandermir and

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00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: Frank Franjie as we go, men behind the.

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00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: Mics, joining us now the voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars,

1116
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: Frank Franji. Frank wish it was under better circumstances, both

1117
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: the Texans and the Jags coming off really tough losses.

1118
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: But here we go back in the good old AFC South.

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00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 3: How you doing, my friend, I'm doing well.

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Speaker 6: Mark. Good to be on with you, and you're right,

1121
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 6: it's a little tough start for our guys here, but

1122
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 6: a lot of season left, like he talked about, and

1123
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 6: it's always fun we get indivisional play up.

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00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: But just for sure, well, you know, a couple of

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00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: years ago you had that major reversal in the Jags season,

1126
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 3: and knowing that they did it, then can that help

1127
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 3: them now based on what is going on this season?

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Speaker 3: And I know extends back to last season, but every

1129
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: year the team's different. So what are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I hear you, Mark, and I think that's

1131
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 6: the thing. Look, Doug Peterson came in here and had

1132
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 6: back to back winning season. We haven't had that in

1133
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 6: a long time. They struggled at the end of the

1134
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 6: year last year. We all know that, but they've had

1135
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 6: two good years if you look at two good years.

1136
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 6: But certainly about standards here, I think everyone's surprised it

1137
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 6: started the way it did this year. You knew those

1138
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 6: first four games are going to be tough. Three of

1139
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 6: the first four we're going to be on the road.

1140
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 6: All the teams you played, we're going to be playoff teams.

1141
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 6: The Dolphins, the Browns, the Bills, and the Texans won

1142
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 6: forty five games between them last year. We all knew that,

1143
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 6: including some playoff wins, three of those four on the road.

1144
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 6: But I think the Jags haven't played as well as

1145
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 6: they thought. I think that's the thing that has people

1146
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 6: bummed out a little bit around here. Probably should have

1147
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 6: won the first game, led most of the game, did

1148
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 6: not play well obviously, and got blasted against by the Bills.

1149
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 6: So I think the biggest concern right now is they're

1150
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 6: not playing well and hope they can change that around

1151
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 6: once they get into the division.

1152
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: All Right, we'll talk about Trevor Lawrence in a moment, Frank,

1153
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: but I want to start with the running game. What

1154
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on the running game? I always think

1155
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: etn is a really big factor. I know Bigsby plays

1156
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 3: well when he's in there. So what are your thoughts

1157
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 3: on the way they're moving it or not moving it enough?

1158
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: On the ground.

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00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 6: I like the backs mark a lot. I think it's

1160
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 6: a good company. I said Tank Bigsy's pretty good. Now

1161
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 6: he's gonna he's gonna be their downhill runner. They haven't

1162
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 6: had that here and Travis et is a good player.

1163
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 6: He's one of the better backs in the league. I

1164
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 6: think so. I think the running backs are pretty good.

1165
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 6: The line hadn't played great. I think the reality is,

1166
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 6: if we're being honest here, the line's got to play better.

1167
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 6: Those guys know that they're good players, they're committed. They

1168
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 6: didn't change much from last year's line. They brought in

1169
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 6: Mitch Morris, the veterans center from Buffalo. Other than that,

1170
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 6: it's the same guys and they believe they've got the

1171
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 6: right guys. But it hasn't all worked together. And you

1172
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 6: know Mark, he's been in this league forever too. It's

1173
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 6: got to work together. There's got to be a rhythm

1174
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 6: in the passing game that softens up the defense. You

1175
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 6: got to block in the running games that makes play

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Speaker 6: action work. And none of that has happened yet. I

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00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 6: think it's going to. I think they've I think they've

1178
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 6: got a good team. I've said that in the past.

1179
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 6: I think the Gags have a good team. I really

1180
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 6: believe that. But they've got to do a better job

1181
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 6: of blocking. I would say the offensive line they allowed

1182
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 6: twenty one pressures against Buffalo. That's a lot now, so

1183
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 6: I would say the Lion's got to play better. I

1184
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 6: think the biggest step from where they are now to

1185
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 6: where they hope to be, Mark will be in that

1186
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 6: offensive line player. I think that's the big thing. I

1187
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Speaker 6: really do.

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00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: How big a loss is a Lucan for a while.

1189
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: And I know that josh heinz Allen is a really

1190
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: good pass rusher, so at least you have him. You

1191
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 3: do have some other tools to work with on defense.

1192
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: But I know it's a big loss.

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00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, Foy, he's the leader of the defense. He's got

1194
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 6: to see he's the guy that's he's got the green dot.

1195
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 6: I mean, he's the guy that they all rely on.

1196
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 6: He's a good player. You know, they've changed it around

1197
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 6: a little bit. He was the middle linebacker in the

1198
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 6: previous scheme, which is more of a three force game,

1199
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Speaker 6: so he's one of the inside linebackers that he played

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Speaker 6: the MIC. They've moved him to the will now. Mark

1201
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 6: Devin Lloyd has played really well as a MIC linebacker.

1202
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Speaker 6: He doesn't run quite as well as Foyer. He's a big, physical,

1203
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 6: kind of in a phone booth guy, and he's played

1204
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 6: really well. And Foyer has been all over the field

1205
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 6: playing that will spot. So that's gonna hurt. They're gonna

1206
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 6: play Vindra Miller, the former Florida Gator player who's went healthy,

1207
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 6: really good. Probably their fastest linebacker, so the guy they're

1208
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 6: replacing him can really run, but doesn't have the instinct.

1209
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 6: So Foyer is a day to day guy. But if

1210
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 6: they're not going to in the games they don't have Foyer, yeah,

1211
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 6: that's going to hurt them. They've they've had some they've

1212
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 6: been beat up back there on the defense last week.

1213
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 6: So they've lost Tyson Campbell, their best cornerback, who they

1214
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 6: just extended for four weeks. He at least four weeks

1215
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 6: he's he's on the injury list, so he's down for

1216
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 6: a while. They're without Andrew Winger, they're starting safety. He's

1217
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 6: down till about October. Then they lost Darnell Savage, who's

1218
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 6: been sort of their their nickel. He was lost before

1219
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 6: the game, and then Jerry and Jones got hurt in

1220
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 6: the game. So four defensive backs mark that they were

1221
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 6: really counting on haven't been around. I think that might

1222
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 6: be as big a problem for the defense as anything.

1223
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 6: But yeah, not having Foyer a Lilkins deal.

1224
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: He's a good player, and that really puts pressure on

1225
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 3: the offense to score more points and it hasn't worked

1226
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: out according to plan. Trevor Lawrence, let's talk about him, Frank.

1227
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: I know he's got ability. He plays well against the

1228
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 3: Texans very often. So what are your thoughts on Trevor

1229
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: heading into Game four of this season.

1230
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 6: Trevor's got to play better. He knows that he missed

1231
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 6: the throw on Monday night when he had Brian Thomas

1232
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 6: Junior pretty wide open. Airmailed it and Demor Hamlin picked

1233
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 6: it off and that's when the game was that kind

1234
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 6: of since the game. It was twenty to three at

1235
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 6: the time, but the Jags were driving. Mark, you get

1236
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 6: in the enzine there, it's twenty to ten at the

1237
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 6: end of the half and you're getting the ball to

1238
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 6: start the second half. You're still in it, right. He

1239
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 6: airmailed it, it was picked off by Hamlin. Bill's went up

1240
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 6: twenty seven to three, and that was that. He's got

1241
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 6: to play better In defense of him. Back to what

1242
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 6: I said a minute ago, he hasn't had a lot

1243
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 6: of clean pocket. He just hasn't. He is He's had

1244
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 6: to move around in the pocket, and I think what

1245
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 6: happens is if you don't have clean pockets. Then you

1246
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 6: start anticipating that you're not going to have a clean pocket.

1247
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 6: Your eye level probably comes down a little bit. You

1248
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 6: probably leave a pocket earlier than you needed to. And

1249
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 6: I think all that can play. They know that though.

1250
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 6: Here's a good thing. It's only three games. You forget about.

1251
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 6: People want to connect it to last year, But the

1252
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 6: reality is they only played three games. All the division

1253
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 6: games are still ahead of them. They played some veteran quarterbacks.

1254
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 6: I mean they played two of them, played de Sean Watson,

1255
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 6: they played Josh Allen. They've played veteran quarterbacks. Now they

1256
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 6: play another very good quarterback this week, obviously TJ. Stroud.

1257
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 6: But I think that all evens out over the course

1258
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 6: of seventeen games. I think they all need to calm

1259
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 6: down a little bit and play their best game Sunday.

1260
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Speaker 6: And I think the Jags will play well on Sunday.

1261
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 6: I'd be very surprised if they don't.

1262
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 3: I would too. I expect this one to come down

1263
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 3: to the wire. It's just that way in the division.

1264
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 3: Very often. Frank Frangie, voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars, with

1265
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: us speaking of the Division. Anything surprised you so far.

1266
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 3: Let's start with the Indianapolis Colts, who just picked up

1267
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: their first victory.

1268
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what, I'm not the biggest surprise to mean,

1269
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 6: the two biggest surprises to me in the division are

1270
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 6: the Jags not playing better than they saw, our team

1271
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 6: not playing better than I thought we would play, and

1272
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 6: Houston in the way they did in Minnesota. If I think

1273
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 6: hoaston really good and I and I know I'm saying

1274
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 6: this for you all the Houston than you got. Your

1275
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 6: fans are all hearing me, but I'm not saying it

1276
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 6: for that reason. I think that I think the Texans

1277
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 6: are really good. I think the improvements they made defensively

1278
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 6: stepped the year two for CJ. Stroud, who was so

1279
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 6: freaking good in year one. Uh. They that we're getting

1280
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 6: digs of the fastest receiving core in the league, uh,

1281
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 6: getting mixed and when he's healthy. I I really think

1282
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 6: the Texans are good. So so I didn't think anyone

1283
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 6: was going to roll the Texans all year long. So

1284
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 6: that probably is my big surprise. The JAG's not playing

1285
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 6: as well I thought thee the Titans could struggle until

1286
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 6: Levis finds his way Mark, So I don't think that

1287
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 6: one really shocked me yet. And I think they're a

1288
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 6: good team and he's a good quarterback and they'll find

1289
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 6: their way. And I think the culture about I thought

1290
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 6: they'd be. They're tough, they're physical. The better richards the

1291
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 6: more Richardson plays, the better he's going to get. But

1292
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 6: I don't I think for me, the big the two

1293
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 6: big surprises for the Minnesota Tech the Minnesota Houston game

1294
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 6: last week, I didn't think that would go the way

1295
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 6: it went. And and the fact that the Jags haven't

1296
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 6: played better than they've played at least at this point.

1297
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 3: Well, another AFC South story, if you will, as we leak,

1298
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: Willis gets revenge on the division with victories over the

1299
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: Colts and Titans, his former team, and look, thank you

1300
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 3: very much. I think both of us feel that way

1301
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 3: when you beat AFC South foes. But that's a really

1302
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: interesting story with Lafleur, who was the OC in Nashville

1303
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 3: and he's doing that now with Malik Willis there, I

1304
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: am very surprised about that.

1305
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I and I will tell you what I

1306
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 6: saw Malik Willis. I didn't think he was very good

1307
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 6: just when I when I saw him and play for Tennessee.

1308
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 6: I thought they missed on him, which is why they

1309
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 6: had to go draft Levice right And it's because, I mean,

1310
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 6: they drafted Willis pretty high. They had to turn around

1311
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 6: and draft Levice, which I thought pretty much told everybody

1312
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 6: they felt like they had missed on on Willis. Remember

1313
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 6: they played a play they played a white season game

1314
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 6: here and and Willis was slated to start, and they

1315
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 6: didn't think he could do the job. So they went

1316
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 6: out and got Josh Dobbs who was a free agent,

1317
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 6: remember that, and so he and he played pretty well

1318
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 6: for them and so so. But then Willis turned out

1319
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 6: and give him credit, man, he didn't back then, he

1320
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 6: didn't buckle. It wasn't the right fit for him. He

1321
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 6: went up to Green Bay and has played very well

1322
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 6: for them. So tip of the Captain, Malik Willis. But

1323
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 6: I'm surprised by that. I'm surprised he played as well

1324
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 6: as he did. And look, they're going to get Jordan

1325
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 6: Love back. It might be in the next two or

1326
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 6: three weeks, but until then, he's done a nice job

1327
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 6: for them. So no, that one surprised me a little

1328
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 6: bit too. I think the Titans have a toughness about them.

1329
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 6: I really do. Jeffrey Simmons is a good player. They've

1330
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 6: got good defensive players. They got to figure out quarterback.

1331
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 6: If the light goes on for Levis, they'll be okay.

1332
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 6: But he hasn't played very well. You can tell about

1333
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 6: Brian Callahan's comment. I know you've seen him, Mark, that

1334
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 6: he's frustrated with the two. I wouldn't pull the plug

1335
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 6: on the Titans just yet, Like forever, it's three games.

1336
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 6: I think the one thing we all have to remember,

1337
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 6: and we certainly do around here, it's only been three games.

1338
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 6: Let's see what happens is this thing moves.

1339
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 3: Forward absolutely seventeen games schedule. Especially Frank, what about the

1340
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 3: stadium in Jacksonville. I was reading up on this. This

1341
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 3: is going to take a number of years, but it

1342
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 3: looks like it's going to be really good. That whole

1343
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 3: downtown development, the new stadium. It's just going to take

1344
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: a long time to get it done.

1345
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 6: It's one of the most exciting things we've had happening

1346
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 6: around here, Mark in a long time. I appreciate you're

1347
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 6: asking about it. They got approved by the city council

1348
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 6: that actually they actually finalized the budget and the approval

1349
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 6: last night. All right, and so it's now finally officially,

1350
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 6: even though it's beneficial, it's going to be a beautiful

1351
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 6: new stadium. It's going to be ready by the twenty

1352
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 6: twenty eight season. So we're going to play in the

1353
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 6: EverBank Stadium this year and next year as is, in

1354
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six, we're going to play in EverBank Stadium,

1355
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 6: but it's going to be limited capacity. It's going to

1356
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 6: be about forty three thousand. That's all it's going to

1357
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 6: hold because they're going to be doing the construction. In

1358
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 6: twenty twenty seven, they're going to leave. They're going to

1359
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 6: play either in Orlando or Gainesville for the entire season,

1360
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 6: and then by twenty twenty eighth they'll open this thing.

1361
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 6: The best way I can describe it is think of

1362
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 6: so far in Los Angeles, just not quite as big.

1363
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 6: It's going to be covered yet, it's going to be

1364
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 6: open air on the sides. It's going to be a beautiful,

1365
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 6: beautiful facility, and they're going to develop around it. To

1366
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 6: your point, four seasons hotel is going in down there.

1367
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 6: They're developing that riverbank area right next to the stadium.

1368
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 6: In about four or five years, it's going to be

1369
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 6: spectacular around here, and I can't wait. It's going to

1370
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 6: take a while, You're right, but it's going to but

1371
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 6: the end result is going to be marvelous. It really is.

1372
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: Sounds amazing, Frank. I know, once a year you go

1373
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 3: to London and you've been going there for a long

1374
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 3: time with this team, and another couple of games on

1375
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 3: the docket for this year. What is it like for

1376
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 3: you going over there, your experience being with the Jaguars,

1377
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 3: being a semi London resident every year.

1378
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 6: I'm practically a citizen, Mark, That's what I am. I

1379
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 6: consider myself a citizen. I got to work with my accent.

1380
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 6: I suppose. Look, it's a big part of the business

1381
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 6: plan here they go every year. Shot and Mark Lampion,

1382
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 6: the team president, has made it clear where they're in

1383
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 6: the next to green Bay, the smallest market in the league.

1384
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 6: There's three or four fortune five hundred companies here. Tops

1385
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 6: other cities have ten to fifteen. Boston's got twenty one

1386
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 6: of them. So there's not as much corporate there's not

1387
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 6: as many corporate dollars here. That's just the reality, and

1388
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 6: the way to mitigate some of that is to go

1389
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 6: to London. I think I've seen that the London market

1390
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 6: mark generates about fifteen percent of the overall top end

1391
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 6: revenue for the Jaguars. That's a big number. Now, fifteen

1392
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 6: percent comes from that London game, so that's why they

1393
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 6: have to keep doing it. I've enjoyed the trip over there.

1394
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 6: Now that's two games. I will tell you if my

1395
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 6: wife goes with me, going in Thursday and leaving on Sunday.

1396
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 6: I wasn't gonna take my wife because she wouldn't have

1397
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 6: time to enjoy it. But the last two years it's

1398
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 6: been back to back game, so she comes with me.

1399
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 6: We go to Ireland in between. A lot of people

1400
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 6: go to France in between. I've really enjoyed it. I've

1401
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 6: really enjoyed it, and I'll tell you that. And as

1402
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 6: you know, the Jags tend to play well over there.

1403
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 6: They swept both games last year, including the Bills, who

1404
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 6: have a very good football team. The Jags have found

1405
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 6: a comfort level over there. This year we play the

1406
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 6: Patriots and the Bears. Both of them are going to

1407
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 6: be playing young quarterbacks and the lion's share of their

1408
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 6: team has never made that trip, so it's a little

1409
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 6: bit of an advantage for us. I feel that way,

1410
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 6: I really do so. I enjoy the trip. It's ten

1411
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 6: days in Europe, and I think that we try to

1412
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 6: make the most of it, and I think the Jags

1413
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 6: it's become a good thing for Jacksonville football. Data.

1414
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 3: Do you take the tube or do you uber.

1415
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 6: Both? As a matter of fact, it depends on where

1416
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 6: we go, but we've taken The transit system is fantastic.

1417
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 6: You know that you've been over there. The transit system

1418
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 6: is fantastic over there. We play at two different stadiums

1419
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 6: this year and last year, the road the technical road game,

1420
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 6: which this year will be the Bears is it Tottenham

1421
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 6: in The home game is at Wembley and there are

1422
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 6: two different parts of London, so yeah, we get all

1423
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 6: over there. So look, it's a fun trip over I

1424
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 6: tell people that haven't that haven't seen an NFL game,

1425
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 6: and I know you know this. The fans love it, man.

1426
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 6: They sell out that place. Wembley holds ninety thousand and

1427
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 6: there's not an empty seat in the place. They love

1428
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 6: American football. And if people that haven't seen it, I

1429
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 6: hope they get a chance to go see what it's

1430
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 6: like because it's a fun week for sure.

1431
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: Yep, it's not a light investment, but it's definitely worth it.

1432
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 3: It's a great trip. We went there once and I'm

1433
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 3: sure we're going to go back again at some point.

1434
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 3: Frank Franzi, Voice of the Jaguars. One more for you, Frank.

1435
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 3: I know you talk a lot of college football on

1436
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 3: your show, how much? Which does it blow your mind?

1437
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 3: What's going on with the Gators and the Seminoles right

1438
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 3: now on that part of the country.

1439
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 6: At one point they were one in six between them.

1440
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 6: This is a team. These are two teams that dominated

1441
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 6: college football in the nineties, and one or the other

1442
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 6: was dominating college football in the two thousands up until

1443
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 6: about sixteen or seventeen. So it's shocking around here, it

1444
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 6: really is. The big surprise is Florida State Mark. That's

1445
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 6: the surprise. They won. They were thirteen and oh last

1446
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 6: year and now they lost a lot of guys in

1447
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 6: the portal. I can tell you this. We were all

1448
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 6: at the combine. I kept seeing FSU players show up

1449
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 6: over and over. I think they had twelve guys there

1450
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 6: and that should have been an indicator. They lost a

1451
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 6: lot of good players, so I'm real surprised. Look, they

1452
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 6: shouldn't have be they're one and three, and I'm not

1453
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 6: sure how they beat Cal. They beat them fourteen to nine.

1454
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 6: Cal had five trips in the red zone and only

1455
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 6: scored six points out of them. They missed two field

1456
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 6: goals and got turned away on fourth down, So I'm

1457
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 6: not sure how I fish she won that game, to

1458
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 6: be honest with you, and I don't think Florida is

1459
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 6: very good. They'd be a bad MISSCHIPI State team last week.

1460
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 6: My guess is Florida is probably gonna fire the coach

1461
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 6: at some point. Billion Napier is probably going to get it,

1462
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 6: whether its mid season or end of the seat. And

1463
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 6: then once again they're going to start over. It'll be

1464
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 6: their fifth coach in twenty ten, so they can't seem

1465
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 6: to find themselves. So that's shocking around here. The good thing,

1466
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 6: I say, the good thing is the four teams we

1467
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 6: covered our radio station closely. You're Florida and FSU, George

1468
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 6: and Miami. Well, George is great again, and it looks

1469
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 6: like Miami, your old stopping grounds of mart might have

1470
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 6: the best team they've had since you were around. I mean,

1471
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 6: they have a really good football team. So we watch

1472
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 6: the college football it's more Georgia and Miami around here

1473
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 6: for now, the Knowles and the Gators are really struggling.

1474
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 3: Frank, great stuff as always. We really appreciate the time,

1475
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 3: and I look forward to seeing you on Sunday.

1476
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 6: All right, Mark, look forward to it. Thanks having me on.

1477
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 6: Take care of man.

1478
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: One of the nicest, beautiful souls you're ever gonna find

1479
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 2: in the business, right there, Frank Franjie has always for

1480
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: me for thirty years since I'd known him.

1481
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: Hey, John, you need anything? What do you need?

1482
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 4: I got it, I got it.

1483
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 2: I'll take care of you whatever you want. And of

1484
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: course you know Mark Vandermi are the same. So those

1485
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: two guys deeply influential in my life and I appreciate

1486
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 2: everything that they have done for me. Now, another guy

1487
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: that is deeply influential for me is Drew Doherty. Why

1488
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: well because he's Drew, but also because he and I

1489
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: do in the Lab podcast. We had a lot to

1490
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: talk about after what happened in Minnesota, so we spend

1491
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: a little time on that as it pertains to getting

1492
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: better to beat the Jaguars on Sunday.

1493
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: In the Lab is next right here on Texans All Access, What's.

1494
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: Happen everybody walking back to Wednesdaytion of Texans All Access

1495
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 2: from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harrits,

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Speaker 1: In the city of Houston.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to my man, who is all

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Speaker 2: kinds of Houston, my man Drew Doherty. We go in

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Speaker 2: the lab to talk about the Minnesota game as it

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Speaker 2: pertains to getting ready for the Jaguars game. So we

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Speaker 2: don't dwell on the Vikings game, but there are things

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Speaker 2: that a Vikings game that have got to change to

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Speaker 2: make things a little better on Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen. It's in the lab.

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Speaker 4: Hey, John, good to see you.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: You're doing all right, Okay, not so great after Sunday drew,

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Speaker 2: but doing the best that we can and getting ready

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Speaker 2: for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, exactly, man, it's gonna be with you. It's gonna

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Speaker 4: be with you. General listener, general viewer.

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Speaker 8: If you're checking us out on YouTube, please give us

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Speaker 8: a like, subscribe, follow us. If you're listening on iTunes,

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Speaker 8: we love all that. Give us a great review. All right,

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Speaker 8: we're gonna do a few things. We're gonna raise a

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Speaker 8: glass a little bit later on. We're going to have

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Speaker 8: our cream of the cropper as well. But we're gonna

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Speaker 8: start with, oh, you know, all the stuff that's been

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Speaker 8: going on this week, and I've heard lots of chatter

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Speaker 8: about well, why is this happening and why is that happening?

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Speaker 8: But what about how do you fix this, and what

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Speaker 8: I'm talking about is the penalties. And one of the

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Speaker 8: things I'm imagining the Texans are probably gonna do, and

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Speaker 8: you'll probably see this week at practice. You see them

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Speaker 8: on a fairly regular basis, officials out of practice, referees

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Speaker 8: out of practice. And when I say that, I think

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01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 8: a lot of people might think, well, yeah, no, duh,

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Speaker 8: Well that's not actually the case. You don't always have

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Speaker 8: officials or referees at practices, but a lot of times

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01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 8: in instances where teams are working on, well, we want

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Speaker 8: to make sure that we're following this letter of the law,

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01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 8: this rule, they'll bring in referees who are local college

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Speaker 8: refs or local high school refs, so, you know, accomplish

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Speaker 8: guys who are doing this and have done this for

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Speaker 8: a long time. And they'll have a crew that's going

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01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 8: to flag you for a false strike, that's going to

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01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 8: flag you for an illegal formation, they'll flag you for

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01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 8: whatever you're trying to kind of nitpick and correct and

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Speaker 8: get better at it.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, they might not do that this week,

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01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 8: who knows, but I would be surprised if you don't

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01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 8: see him out there at least one practice, if not more.

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Speaker 8: But John, there's a lot of different ways, excuse me,

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Speaker 8: to go about fixing some of the mistakes that the

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Speaker 8: Texans have been making. And I'm not ready to panic,

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01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 8: but I think they can get these things corrected. And

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Speaker 8: I think that's just one small way, one small thing

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Speaker 8: that they can wind up doing. But all in all,

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Speaker 8: what are your thoughts on, Okay, that's all behind and

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Speaker 8: that's happened.

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Speaker 4: How do you make it better? What do you do

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Speaker 4: to correct what's been going on?

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Speaker 2: Well, they have official at practice. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: say one hundred percent and stamp that. I know that

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Speaker 2: for sure, but I can't remember a practice where the

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Speaker 2: officials were not there.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that.

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Speaker 2: I it's going to be kind of interesting is when

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Speaker 2: you do bring you officials because you can't get NFL

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01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 2: officials the guys actually officiate the game after practice, so

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01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 2: you do get college officials, you know, sometimes higher level

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Speaker 2: high school officials. What ends up being an issue is

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Speaker 2: sometimes the focus for those guys is in their sports

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01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: is not what it is in the NFL, and you

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01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 2: have to make sure that you understand, like, for example,

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01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: where offensive linemen line up, because it's gotten over the

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01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 2: years it's gotten pretty like pretty rough, like you would

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Speaker 2: look across and go, man, the tackles lined up with

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Speaker 2: the flanker, the Z off the and the z's off

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Speaker 2: the ball, like, okay, those two are on the same line,

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01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 2: Like that can't be the case. So the NFL really

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01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 2: starting in game one of the season, the Ravens and

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01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs made a point, you're gonna line up properly or

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01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna flag you. And if I remember correctly, in

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Speaker 2: that game, the same crew that was there or the

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Speaker 2: Ravens Chiefs was the crew for Texans Vikings. So you

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01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: gotta make your you got to make your adjustments now defensively,

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01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 2: when it came to penalties, they called Jalen Petree for

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01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 2: an interference down the field that wasn't even close to interference.

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Speaker 4: Like I watched that play.

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Speaker 2: I was watching it in real time because I was like,

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Speaker 2: I knew it was a it was some sort of flee,

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Speaker 2: flick eror pass, So I looked downfield. So I was

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Speaker 2: actually watching Johnny Munt and Jalen Petrie and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: when they threw a flag, I was furious because yeah,

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01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 2: I mean, there was there was no contact whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: Jalen wasn't riding him down the field.

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Speaker 2: So from that perspective, defensively, I don't know that there's

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say major concern as it pertains

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Speaker 2: to penalties. Honestly, I feel like this has been an

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Speaker 2: offensive holding on the first play of the game. You know,

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Speaker 2: the interception right afterwards was kind of a fluky one

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: because Kama gruge Hill, the linebacker the Vikings.

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Speaker 4: Is way out of position. It was a gift and

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01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 4: that is wide open.

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01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 2: If somehow Harrison Phillips does get a hand on it,

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01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: tanks wide open, he catches it, that's a ten to

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01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: twelve yard gain at least. And so now you're second eight,

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01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: second and seven. Now you're kind of off and rolling.

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01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 2: But the ball the flex all the way over to

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01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 2: a misplaced linebacker and the way you go. But the

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01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: the illegal formation, the snap, you know, a lot of

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01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: it boils down to the front five guys. And look,

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01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 2: you don't want to point fingers all in one spot,

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01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: but it's just look at the penalty numbers and look

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01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: how many of them were due to offensive line or

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01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 2: tight ends.

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01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 4: And that's something that.

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01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: You gotta that those groups are going to have to

1627
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 2: either realize this is the way it's called and you're

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01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: going to adapt to it, or you're going to commit,

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01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 2: continue to commit penalties and hurt this team. And I'm

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 2: hoping you're not picking the ladder of that. I hope

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01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: you're picking the former of Like, Okay, this is what

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01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 2: we got to do to change it, this is how

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01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: they want to call it, this is how we gotta

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01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: change it. Yeah, And hopefully the officials that are there

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01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 2: to practice this week can make those points and they

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01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 2: can go through the process of you know, if the

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01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: tackle has to get up there, if Titus and Laram

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01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 2: you have to look across the refid go am I good,

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01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: Am I good?

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01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 4: Yes, you're good.

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01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 2: At the same time, the wide receivers are going, I'm

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01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: off the ball, Okay, you're good, like and they got

1643
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: to do it.

1644
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 4: And you know, there are times in which the NFL

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01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 4: has its.

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01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 2: Bones to pick the players. I don't I don't know

1647
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: the right way of saying it, but I don't want

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01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 2: it to come across as I'm complaining. But I remember

1649
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 2: last year and when the Bills played the Chiefs, there

1650
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: was this absolutely awesome player, Travis Kelsey catches the ball,

1651
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 2: he runs off feel. He laterals two, I can't remember

1652
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 2: who was runs it for a touchdown to place goes

1653
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: nuts is a flag, Kadarius Tony is offside because he

1654
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 2: lined up with his foot on the line of scrimmage

1655
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: and so his toes were across the line of scrimmage.

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01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 4: And it became this thing.

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01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: Well, the NFL hadn't emphasized it up until then, and

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01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 2: now you're gonna go. And then all of a sudden

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01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: we started seeing it called in a lot of other games.

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01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: And so you've got to understand kind of what the

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01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 2: flavored azure is for how the NFL is calling it.

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01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,560
Speaker 2: And you know, if there is a real focus on

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01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: holding because your hands are getting outside the framework of

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01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 2: the body.

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01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 4: Okay, you got to make your adjustment. You're an NFL player.

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01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: You've got to make the adjustments and make it right

1667
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 2: according to how the NFL is calling those games.

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Speaker 4: And that's just as simple as that. Yeah, but I

1669
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 4: don't worry about the defense, true, I really don't. I

1670
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 4: know I know it either.

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01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 8: I want to turn things to the positive now. I

1672
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 8: want to raise a glass, raise a glass of madelo,

1673
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 8: because hey, the good guys are back at home at

1674
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 8: anergy stadium. That's something to look forward to, and it's

1675
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 8: another thing to look forward to because you're playing the Jaguars.

1676
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 8: And now this is a we're in weird territory right now,

1677
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 8: because think about it, the last four contests with the Jaguars,

1678
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 8: you've split with them.

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01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 4: You're two and two. Yep.

1680
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 8: But let's go back. Let's do a little bit of

1681
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 8: a history lesson. We've done this history lesson before if

1682
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 8: you've watched or listened to in the lab over the years.

1683
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 8: In twenty ten, the first time you played the Jaguars

1684
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 8: in the two game series. That year, you entered that

1685
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 8: series eight and eight. You had won eight games against

1686
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 8: the Jags in your history. They had won eight games.

1687
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 8: That was a pretty good mark for the Texans at

1688
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 8: that point. Yeah, still young in the franchise. Most most

1689
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 8: time they had a losing record because of the expansion years.

1690
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 8: You go there, it's a hard fought game. It comes

1691
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 8: down to the very end and there's a hail Mary

1692
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 8: that Glover Quinn bats down, but bats it just directly

1693
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 8: into the arms of a Jaguars receiver Michael Thomas. He

1694
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 8: gets in the end zone.

1695
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 4: They win.

1696
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 8: There was cheering in the press box, not by me,

1697
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 8: not by Nick Skurfield, not by the Houston media.

1698
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 4: But there's cheering in the press.

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01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 8: Box's supposed to happen, is not supposed to, no matter what,

1700
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 8: A no no. So the Jaguars took a nine to

1701
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 8: eight advantage in the all time series. Then the Texans

1702
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 8: peeled off six straight wins, lost a couple in twenty thirteen,

1703
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 8: peeled off five more, lost a couple in seventeen, or

1704
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 8: maybe it's they pill a five and then six with

1705
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 8: the breakup in between, and then they won nine in

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01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 8: a row and that got snapped at the end of

1707
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 8: the twenty two season. So since then, since that loss

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01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 8: in twenty ten, in November Week ten of twenty ten,

1709
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 8: the Texans have basically owned them. And right now, if

1710
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 8: you win on Sunday, you will have thirty wins to

1711
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 8: just fifteen for the Jags. You will double them up,

1712
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 8: which is far and away the best record. It's really

1713
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 8: been weird over over that span, how lopsided this rivalry

1714
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 8: has been. And there's been some bad years for the Texans.

1715
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 8: I mean, they lost fourteen games at thirteen, they had

1716
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 8: the Deshaun Watson here where they lost both of them

1717
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 8: and that was the Jaguars. It's the best Jaguar team

1718
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 8: since probably the late nineties when Seth Payne was there.

1719
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 4: Yep.

1720
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 8: So we're in weird territory, John, uh. And this is

1721
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 8: an odd, odd situation for them because they're zero and three.

1722
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 8: They just got thumped on Monday Night football and as

1723
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 8: bad as the Texans field right now, you're probably feeling

1724
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 8: worse if you're a Jags fan because you know you

1725
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 8: still don't have a win.

1726
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 4: You did that on national TV, your loss.

1727
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 8: And on top of all that, it was a day later,

1728
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 8: and on top of that, they had playing problems, so

1729
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 8: they did not get out of Buffalo until the wee

1730
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 8: hours of the morning they returned home to Jacksonville I

1731
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 8: think six am, John.

1732
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 4: Ye.

1733
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 8: So this is a team that's limping in, but it's

1734
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 8: the proverbial caged animal and you gotta look and be

1735
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 8: wary and all that stuff. It's an odd setup this

1736
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 8: this this week four sweet four.

1737
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 4: Game, John. And one final thing with that, they've also

1738
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 4: had some injuries.

1739
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 2: They just found out that Foyle Locun is gonna be

1740
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: out for I believe about two or three weeks, So

1741
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: he's gonna miss this week for sure, Uh, they had

1742
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 2: some others Jerry and Jones or Rookie Nickel ended up

1743
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: getting hurt early in the game against the Bills. Gabe

1744
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 2: Davis got hurt against the Bills. Anton Harrison went out

1745
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: of the game against the Bills. So they're they're a

1746
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 2: banged up, caged animal, and that that does worry me

1747
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 2: a little bit. But this Texans team hasn't played and

1748
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 2: then and the other the other side of the Texans

1749
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: team hasn't played a complete game either. No, I don't

1750
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 2: think you can be really excited about what they've done.

1751
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 2: And I think that kind of stuck in my craw

1752
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 2: as we were flying home from Minnesota, like we just

1753
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 2: really haven't seen I don't I don't know what level.

1754
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 2: Obviously Sunday was the D minus level of this Texans team,

1755
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: and I hope it doesn't get any worse. But what

1756
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 2: you have to do against a team like this that

1757
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 2: is kind of wallowing in the mayer is just leave

1758
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 2: them in their own muck, Like, sure, you you have

1759
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 2: to do. You have to rise to your standard, play

1760
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: to your standard and put it on them for a

1761
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 2: full sixty minutes. And it doesn't mean you can't get

1762
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 2: thirty minutes and be up, you know, twenty four to three,

1763
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 2: and well, we're gonna coach, No, you have to you

1764
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 2: have to play your game at your standard against this team.

1765
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 2: And here's the other the weird here's the other weird

1766
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: side of your stat I thought about this too.

1767
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 4: The Texans.

1768
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 2: Since I've been on the sidelines twenty fourteen, we've only

1769
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 2: won lost once in Jacksonville in twenty seventeen, and it

1770
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: was an awful day.

1771
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,799
Speaker 4: I mean awful, awful, awful day. It was terrible.

1772
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 2: Now, we didn't play there in nineteen because of going

1773
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: to London, but we have won every other time there.

1774
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 2: Fourteen through twenty three, we've won every other time, but

1775
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: we have not We've lost the last two here. In

1776
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. They thumped the you know what out

1777
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 2: of us, and the last year when they were they

1778
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 2: were seven and three, we were six and four and

1779
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 2: we met here. It's like, oh man, a winter of

1780
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 2: this gets the first place and we played probably our

1781
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 2: worst game of the year. They sacked CJ all day long,

1782
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 2: and the went in the game twenty four to twenty one,

1783
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 2: and we joined the field goal off the upright off

1784
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: the crossbar from fifty nine yards out of a tied

1785
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 2: it incident to overtime. We didn't deserve to win that game,

1786
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: but we've lost the last two here against Jacksonville.

1787
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 4: I just no matter who's on the other side.

1788
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 2: It could be Jacksonville, it could be Bowling Green, it

1789
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: could be University of Miami, it could.

1790
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 4: Be the seventy eighth st the others. It doesn't matter

1791
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 4: to me. This team has to go play at a

1792
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 4: higher standard.

1793
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 2: You mentioned it earlier with the penalties, say, excus will

1794
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: have twenty three penalties in two games.

1795
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 4: Sorry, it just is that that can't happen.

1796
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 2: That is a that is a full on coaches, team, players,

1797
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: that is that is a It's just something that cannot happen.

1798
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: But that's everybody that's contributing to that right there. So

1799
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: you got to clean that up. And I'm not saying

1800
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: you could play penalty free. I mean, I think in

1801
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 2: some cases when you play penalty free, you kind of

1802
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 2: play soft because you're trying not to create penalties. But

1803
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: you've got to have much better play from the offensive line.

1804
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 2: You know, defensively, if you're put on a short field,

1805
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: you got to hold them the field goals. I mean

1806
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: I hate to to say that, but that's got to

1807
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 2: be the standard in some sense. And then offensively, we

1808
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: got to get it rolling again. The offensive line's got

1809
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: to get rolling, so the run game get going. The

1810
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 2: run game gets going, then the play action becomes that

1811
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: much better. Play action gets that much better than deep

1812
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: shots are available. That's what you gotta have against Jacksonville.

1813
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 2: And if you get up early on them, you can't

1814
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 2: you can't allow them back in the game. You get

1815
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 2: up bang bang, ten nothing, fourteen nothing. You got to

1816
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 2: hold them down like big brother and little brother. Yeah,

1817
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: you got to hold them down.

1818
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 4: How do you like this pillow, Bobby? Do you like

1819
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 4: the pillow, Bobby? Yeah?

1820
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 1: Take that?

1821
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 4: I mean like your little brother, Bobby.

1822
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 2: You gotta just I didn't have a little brother, but

1823
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: that's imagine his name would have been bothered.

1824
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 4: That's what I would have done to him. You can't

1825
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 4: let him up. And so it's got to be that.

1826
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 2: It's got to be that you got to start playing

1827
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 2: to that standard because it gets awfully tough the very

1828
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 2: next week when you play a Buffalo Bills, and God

1829
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: help you if you walk out of there and the

1830
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars have more points than you, because now you're

1831
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 2: sitting two and two and you got to take on

1832
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 2: the hottest team in the NFL the week following.

1833
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:02,879
Speaker 8: Oh all right, let's let's welcome in Randy Savage.

1834
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 4: Macho manrop, thank you.

1835
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 8: It's time for a cream of the Crop winner, and

1836
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 8: that's who we think will be the winner if the

1837
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 8: Texans win. And you know what I'm gonna do. I'm

1838
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 8: gonna go with cornerback Derek Stingley Junior. I think he

1839
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 8: gets one. I think he gets a pick in this game.

1840
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 8: He's done it before before, agains Trevor Lawrence, and I

1841
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 8: think it happens again this Sunday. I like what what

1842
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 8: I what I've seen from him so far. We liked

1843
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 8: what what he did during camp. And how much does

1844
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 8: he see of Brian Thomas. We'll see how much is

1845
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 8: it Christian Kirk. Don't know, but I am gonna go

1846
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 8: Cream of the Crop award winner Derek Stingley Junior. John,

1847
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 8: Who do you got last week? I think my cream

1848
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 8: of the crop was Titus Howard.

1849
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 4: I believe m hm.

1850
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 2: I feel like I should make it him, or should

1851
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: make it the entire offensive line. Yeah, but I'm gonna

1852
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 2: just move one person next to him. I'm gonna go

1853
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: Shaq Mason, all right, because the level of play from

1854
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: the three veterans up front has got to go up

1855
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: three notches at least. It's got to go up to

1856
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: where where the expectation level is, and it wasn't there

1857
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: against Minnesota. And I think Shaq is that guy inside

1858
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 2: that's gonna have to handle some of those longer, more

1859
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 2: athletic defensive tackles, defensive end kind of three to forty

1860
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: defensive end types, you know, the six five, six, six,

1861
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 2: two ninety type guys. Shaq's gotta get into those dudes

1862
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 2: and make them have a bad day. He's really got

1863
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 2: to play at a high level. So I'm going shack

1864
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: Mason offensive line.

1865
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: I like that. I like it.

1866
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 8: Let's get that. Let's get back on the winning track.

1867
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 8: Let's get three and one through the first quarter ish

1868
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 8: of the season. Can you believe that sort of four

1869
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 8: games in move?

1870
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1871
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 8: All right, Well, we'll have much more of this next

1872
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 8: week on Texans in the Lab, and we thank you

1873
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 8: for checking us out, you John Harris, me, Drew Doerty,

1874
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 8: and you gentle viewer, gentle listener.

1875
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: That was great stuff from Drew Doherty and well, hopefully

1876
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 2: it was good stuff for me too, but I try

1877
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 2: to be humble, but hopefully it was good stuff as well.

1878
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: Coming up even better stuff, Derek Barnett is gonna sit

1879
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 2: down with our social media star Ari Allen. They've got

1880
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: a few things they need to talk about, and we

1881
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 2: got to go around the league. Things are happening throughout

1882
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 2: the NFL, and man even one in college that has

1883
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 2: gotten just absolutely crazy out at UNLV. So we'll hit

1884
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 2: all that next right here on Texans All Access. We

1885
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,759
Speaker 2: want final segment this Wednesday issue of Texans All Access from.

1886
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: The Monday Texans Radio studio.

1887
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for

1888
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: your Houston Texans as we get ready for the Jacksonville

1889
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 2: Jaguars on Sunday at Energy Stadium. Last time the Jaguars

1890
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 2: are here at Energy Stadium, I remember standing behind a

1891
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 2: goalpost waiting for Madame Mendola's fuel goal and watching it

1892
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: descend and I'm thinking, I think he made this.

1893
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna tie this game.

1894
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 2: And that thought lasted until Pink and then hit the

1895
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: up crossbar fell to the turf in front of the

1896
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: goal post no good Jaguars win. However, the Jaguars would

1897
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 2: go on to win just one game the rest of

1898
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 2: the year. And how about the fact that that win

1899
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,560
Speaker 2: for the Jaguars back in on Week twelve was the

1900
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 2: last time Trevor Lawrence won a game in the regular

1901
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 2: season for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1902
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: That's right.

1903
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 2: He has not won another game since that one against

1904
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 2: the Texans. Oh boy, that's tough. They went eight and three.

1905
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: They finished nine and eight, so they went one in

1906
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 2: five down the stretch they started owing three, So they

1907
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 2: are one what did I say, one in eight in

1908
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: the last nine games.

1909
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:49,440
Speaker 1: Yikes.

1910
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's one in ten, but we'll see what happens

1911
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Now, a guy that will be instrumental in

1912
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 2: chasing down Trevor Lawrence making plays against Trevor Lawrence making

1913
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: plays against Travis Etn and Tank Bixby is Derek Barnett

1914
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 2: dB ninety five stepped in the hot seat kind of

1915
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: with our social media star Ari Allen.

1916
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: Take a listen.

1917
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 9: Thank you so much Derek for being with us today.

1918
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 9: Appreciate you being here Jacksonville this upcoming weekend. Fans are

1919
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 9: at home, How excited are you to be back playing

1920
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 9: in front of the fans.

1921
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 10: Oh, I'm excited to be back playing in Texas, And

1922
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 10: I think it's gonna be a great opportunity for us

1923
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 10: to go back out there, especially after last week. So

1924
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 10: it's gonna be a great way to see how we

1925
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 10: respond as a team.

1926
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 9: Right, And the fans were loud. They brought the energy

1927
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 9: against the bars. Walk me through what it's like being

1928
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 9: on the field when like the fans are going crazy.

1929
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 10: Uh, it's loud at home, I know. I mean honestly,

1930
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 10: when I'm playing, I like I don't even hear anything

1931
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 10: because it's so it's so damn low. So we need

1932
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 10: that next this upcoming week as well too.

1933
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 9: Right, and you're no stranger to loud stadiums. You played

1934
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 9: in the SEC at Tennessee. What is your most memorable

1935
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 9: game in the SEC?

1936
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 10: I think I think any SEC opponent was probably the

1937
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 10: most memorable. I feel like it was always loud weekend

1938
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 10: and week out.

1939
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 9: I went to Florida, so I know about the Florida

1940
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 9: Tennessee rivalry. Go Gators. What were those games like?

1941
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 8: Uh?

1942
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 10: They were fun. Like I said, they were loud at Tennessee,

1943
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 10: but even down in Florida. They were a loud down there,

1944
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 10: very hot in.

1945
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 9: The swamp, right, Is there a stadium that you would

1946
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 9: be like, oh, I don't want to have to go there.

1947
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 10: I think Florida was hardly one of the hottest Florida

1948
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 10: in A and M, just because yeah, it was just

1949
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 10: how to.

1950
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 9: See those games, right, but it prepared you for Houston heat.

1951
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 10: Now, Oh yeah it's hot out here, right.

1952
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 9: What is one game that you would like to live

1953
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 9: in your career.

1954
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 10: That's a good question throughout my whole career, your whole career.

1955
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 10: I thought, I thought the game last year against Cleveland,

1956
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 10: the playoff game here. I thought that was a great

1957
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 10: atmosphere and that was a great team win for us,

1958
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 10: and like you could definitely feel the energy. So I

1959
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 10: think to go back to that.

1960
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 9: One, what specifically about I know you mentioned the atmosphere

1961
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 9: and the energy.

1962
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 10: What was that moment for you in that game, just

1963
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 10: even running out of the tunnel and then just a

1964
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 10: feeling hearing the energy and then like third downs it

1965
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 10: was it was so loud. We had to we really

1966
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 10: couldn't communicate, you know, to each other. We had a

1967
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 10: we had to communicate like where are our sign language?

1968
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 9: Wow, that's pretty cool. I've never heard of sign language before.

1969
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 10: Not sign language, but like, uh yeah, urns and stuff.

1970
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 9: So, so this is year two in Houston. Have you

1971
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 9: found any go to Houston food spots?

1972
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 10: You had a food here in the facility is the best?

1973
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 10: I love the food here. I feel like Chef Mike

1974
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 10: and his team, they do a great job. Yeah, the

1975
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 10: food here is at work is great.

1976
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 9: That's awesome. They were just featured on the Today Show too.

1977
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 9: They did like a whole segment on the food scene.

1978
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 9: And is there like a certain meal that they cooked

1979
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 9: that you like?

1980
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 10: I said, the sea bass, go crazy the sea bass,

1981
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 10: So she might be having really everything they do, they

1982
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 10: do a great job in there.

1983
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 9: So you spent the majority of your career in Philly.

1984
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 9: Can you walk me through, Like what makes a Philly

1985
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 9: cheese steak so good? Do you think it's good?

1986
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1987
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 10: I think they're good. I think it's something you do

1988
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 10: when you go there for the first time. It's more

1989
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 10: like a tourist thing. But I think if you live there,

1990
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 10: I don't think a lot of people eat them as

1991
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 10: much as everybody say.

1992
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 9: So growing up, you grew up in Tennessee, then you

1993
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 9: went to ut. What was it like being drafted to

1994
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,480
Speaker 9: a big city in Philadelphia.

1995
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 10: Oh, it was great. It was a different, different change

1996
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 10: for me. But I enjoyed it. I enjoyed Texas. I'm

1997
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 10: happy to be down here now.

1998
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 9: Right You're in another big city.

1999
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, I enjoy where I'm at right now.

2000
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 9: Well, thank you so much for the time.

2001
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 10: I appreciate it, all right, thank you all for having me.

2002
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 2: All Right, that's Derek Barnett of your Houston Texans alongside

2003
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 2: all right, allan our social media superstar who has joined

2004
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 2: us each and every Wednesday, and glad that she does.

2005
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 2: She does a great job with social media. Everything you

2006
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 2: see on social media, she has hers in. They do

2007
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 2: great job with that. There's no question about that. Okay,

2008
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,520
Speaker 2: let's go around the NFL things.

2009
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: Happening in the league that we all love.

2010
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 2: And we're gonna start in Los Angeles, where one of

2011
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 2: my favorite players that has come into the league has

2012
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 2: been in for a long time is Derwin James. Derwin James,

2013
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:25,440
Speaker 2: longtime All Pro Pro Bowl safety, gets a one game suspension.

2014
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: Now it's kind of like the j the game Jenga.

2015
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: You guys have seen the game Jenga.

2016
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,799
Speaker 2: It's it's not the last pole where the tower falls,

2017
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:41,480
Speaker 2: it's all the other little ones right. Well, against the Steelers,

2018
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: he hit Pat freyremouth face mass to ear hole. I don't,

2019
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,799
Speaker 2: I don't, and I didn't see whether he was flagged

2020
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 2: for it, but the league sent him a letter saying, yeah,

2021
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 2: this is not gonna work.

2022
01:29:58,800 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 1: You're suspended for a game.

2023
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 2: So he led the league in unnecessary roughness penalties last year,

2024
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 2: and he tried to reach out to a former Charges coach,

2025
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 2: George Stewart, who is now the NFL's VP of Officiating,

2026
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 2: Training and Development. So James did some things in the

2027
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: offseason trying and get better and not have these situations happen.

2028
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: And then here we are in Week three. He gets

2029
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 2: a one game suspension for another hit that he has

2030
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 2: put on NFL player. And the thing is, depending on

2031
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 2: the angle that you watch it, you's got to go, well,

2032
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 2: really that, But then if you see.

2033
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,879
Speaker 1: At the right angle, you're like, oh, yeah, totally.

2034
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 2: And so the league upheld his suspension and he will

2035
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 2: be out one game for the Chargers. Now, the Chargers

2036
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 2: are also dealing with Justin Herbert and injuries to his foot.

2037
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 2: He was listed as limited in today's practice as the Chargers.

2038
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 9: Uh.

2039
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 1: I charged.

2040
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 2: Chargers are back home this week, if I remember, because

2041
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 2: they were on a two game road trip because they

2042
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: played the Panthers and the Steelers.

2043
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 1: I believe it was.

2044
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 2: I believe that's what it was. So they've got who

2045
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 2: the Chargers have this week. They're back home and they

2046
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 2: are playing thee.

2047
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:17,799
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's right, it's the Chiefs.

2048
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 4: Oh boy.

2049
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: So we'll see whether Justin Herbert is going to be playing.

2050
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 2: He has limited I haven't seen the line taken down,

2051
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 2: and sometimes that happens when a quarterback has hurt.

2052
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: Kansasity's favored by seven and a half.

2053
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 2: But I would imagine if it shows that he might

2054
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,560
Speaker 2: not play, that line might come off the board.

2055
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: Or it will significantly change for the Chargers.

2056
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 2: But that's maybe the question for a little bit later

2057
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 2: in the week when we do our predictions down the road.

2058
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 2: Saints running back Alvin Kamara did not practice today. He's

2059
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 2: been dealing with hip and rib injuries after that game

2060
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 2: against the Eagles. The Denver Broncos announced today that stud

2061
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 2: inside linebacker Alex Singleton tore his ACL in the game

2062
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 2: against Tampa and we'll miss the remainder of the season.

2063
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 2: On Texans won't play the Broncos, but damn that one stayings.

2064
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 2: He was really really good last year. And you of

2065
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 2: course remember CJS standing on business getting back in his face,

2066
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 2: which caused kind of a brew ha ha against Alex Singleton.

2067
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 2: But that is one of the better linebackers in the league,

2068
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 2: and he is now out for the year. Jordan Love

2069
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 2: is apparently back practicing today. I don't know if I

2070
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 2: said this last week. I know I talked about it

2071
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 2: at dinner when we went out to dinner, the Texans

2072
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 2: radio crew went out to dinner. We were talking about this,

2073
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 2: and I said it was a masterclass given by Matt Lafleur,

2074
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 2: because what.

2075
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 4: He did was, hey, look over here at door three.

2076
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: Everybody, it's Jordan Love. Look over here, it's door three.

2077
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 2: So everybody wanted to talk about Jordan Love instead of

2078
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 2: talking to Malik Willis and asking him about going back

2079
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 2: and facing his old team.

2080
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 4: No, no, no, guys, don't look at that.

2081
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: Look at Jordan Love. It was like the shiny new

2082
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: instrument toy. Look at him.

2083
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 4: Oh, everybody was mesmerized.

2084
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 2: Not a damn soul asked Milak Willis all week about

2085
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 2: going back to take on Tennessee Titans.

2086
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: Now, the Floor took all the pressure off of Malik

2087
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 1: Willis with.

2088
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 2: The ruse that Jordan Love could potentially play against the

2089
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. Well, here we are again, back practicing this

2090
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 2: week for the Packers' upcoming game. Now this is about

2091
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 2: the time that they thought that Love would potentially be

2092
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 2: ready to go.

2093
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 1: But I just loved what mattla Floor did.

2094
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 2: He just took all that pressure off Malak Willis last week,

2095
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 2: and Willis was absolutely fantastic. The Browns placed Wyatt Teller

2096
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 2: on injured reserved due to his knee injury, and they

2097
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 2: eventually signed former Well let should say Aggie. You never

2098
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 2: former Aggie, but former Aggie all American of it to

2099
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:53,799
Speaker 2: tackle Jermaine Fetti to their active roster from their practice squad.

2100
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 1: Speaking of the.

2101
01:33:54,560 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 2: Browns, Sean Watson was asked a quest question about designed

2102
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 2: runs and he said, I'm not a running back. I'm

2103
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: not going in there to ask them for more design runs.

2104
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 2: If I don't have to run, I'm not going to run.

2105
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to take any hits. I'm not a

2106
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 2: running quarterback in a sense. I can make things happen,

2107
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 2: but I'm not trying to run. I'm not a running back.

2108
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 2: It's not my specialty. They signed me to throw the ball,

2109
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:30,839
Speaker 2: make decisions, and be a quarterback, not a runner.

2110
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Interesting, is it?

2111
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 9: Not?

2112
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 1: Good luck Cleveland?

2113
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 2: Because running the ball might be the thing you do best, Pal,

2114
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 2: and that's what you might have to stick to. Watson continued,

2115
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 2: I won't say that I won't help out the offense

2116
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 2: as far as just a running game, but coming back

2117
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 2: from shoulder surgery, I don't think that is a high

2118
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 2: priority for coach Kevin Stefanski to put me in that situation.

2119
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,879
Speaker 2: He went further on to say, it's a lose lose situation. Honestly,

2120
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 2: hmm okay, yeah, good luck Cleveland. There's your guy now

2121
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 2: two degrees right. They shouldn't be running him all that much.

2122
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,839
Speaker 2: But guess what if things aren't working in the quarterback

2123
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 2: running game, might maybe they could turn the ball over

2124
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 2: to James Winston. Jamis isn't a great runner, but Jamis

2125
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 2: will do whatever he's got to do to win a game.

2126
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 1: DTR same thing. So I don't know. Interesting things going

2127
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 1: on for the one and two Cleveland Browns. Exciting stuff,

2128
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: all right, and this show is exciting, and I.

2129
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,719
Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys being here with me and with Mark,

2130
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 2: and with Drew and with Ari and Derek Barnett and

2131
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 2: Nick Casserio and Frank Frangie, and we thank all of

2132
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 2: them for joining us on the show.

2133
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 1: A big thanks to you for being here. We'll see

2134
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 1: you tomorrow and as always, go Texans.