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Speaker 1: fourteen ninety two with the colonization of what would become

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Speaker 1: two Mexican American War and a curl of indigenous people's

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Speaker 1: three Gasden Purchase, and of course, through the eighteen eighty

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Speaker 1: two Chinese Exclusion Act and numerous other explicit attempts to

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Speaker 1: it weaves its way through the Mexican Revolution and the

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Speaker 1: First World Wars German proposal to ally with Mexico to

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Speaker 1: The Border patrol story itself begins in May nineteen twenty four,

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Speaker 1: and in the ninety nine years since it has encompassed

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Speaker 1: everything from David Duke to nine to eleven in its

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Speaker 1: agency in the federal government. People from the colonial periphery

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Speaker 1: have always migrated to the metropol. It's why a man

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Speaker 1: in my country's secon national anthem, and why every four

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Speaker 1: years France accepts black french Men onto its football team

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Speaker 1: Migration to the United States is no different. Climate change

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Speaker 1: in US imperiodism have destabilized in impoverished nations from the

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Speaker 1: Americas to Afghanistan and driven people to the US border

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Speaker 1: looking for a better life. What's distinct about the US

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Speaker 1: But the US border is much bigger than the land

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Speaker 1: the United States, the chances are that you live in

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Speaker 1: the Border Enforcement Zone. This swath of territory outside the

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Speaker 1: Constitution has been established since the Immigration and Nationality Act

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Speaker 1: of nineteen fifty two. Established at a reasonable distance of

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Speaker 1: the need for a warrant. Within twenty five miles of

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Speaker 1: a domicile. The Fourth Amendment, part of a foundational bill

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Speaker 1: when you're near the border, and all encompassing history of

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Speaker 1: this podcast. Even a history of the Southwest border could

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Speaker 1: skim the high points here. Let's start with a Gadsden purchase,

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Speaker 1: when a party of military surveyors first bumped into horn

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Speaker 1: The southern border is no more obvious today than it

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Speaker 1: Autumn Reservation, which is the second largest in the USA,

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Speaker 1: These surveyors were in the process of finalizing most of

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Speaker 1: Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, which Mexico lost fifty five percent

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Speaker 1: the logic as much as there can be any logic,

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Speaker 1: to consider not just where people are going, why they're leaving,

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Speaker 1: It hasn't always been this way. Fear reference here in

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Speaker 3: Now we're going to have some questions from the audience.

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Speaker 4: Yes, my name is.

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Speaker 3: David Grosbrug, and I'd like to know do you think

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Speaker 3: the children of illegal aliens should be allowed to attend

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Speaker 5: Or do you think that their parents should pay for

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Speaker 6: Who are you addressing that to?

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Speaker 3: I think first, who was looking right at you?

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Speaker 7: I'd like to see something done about the illegal alien

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Speaker 8: That problem wouldn't come up.

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Speaker 7: But today, if those people are here, I would reluctantly

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Speaker 7: say I think they would get whatever it is that

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Speaker 7: they're you know, what the society is giving to their neighbors.

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Speaker 7: But it has the problem has to be solved. The

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Speaker 7: relations with Mexico. The answer to your question is much

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Speaker 7: I think is six and eight year old kids being

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Speaker 3: Let's address ourselves to the fundamentals.

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Speaker 9: These are good.

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Speaker 3: People, strong people. Part of my family is in Mexican.

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Speaker 3: They have a problem of forty to fifty percent unemployment.

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Speaker 3: Now this cannot continue without the possibility arising with regard

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Speaker 3: them or talking about putting up a fence. Why don't

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Speaker 3: it possible for them to come here legally with a

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Speaker 3: they pay taxes here. And when they go on to

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Speaker 1: The mutineer of border enforcement began. As far as we

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Speaker 1: Reno announced the start of Operation Gatekeeper, the first phase

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Speaker 1: There were already fences in nineteen ninety four, first a

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Speaker 1: mats left over from Vietnam that had horizontal struts that

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Speaker 1: rhetoric was already there too. California Governor Pete Wilson became

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Speaker 2: Keep coming two million illegal immigrants in California. The federal

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Speaker 2: Wilson sent the National Guard to help the border patrol.

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Speaker 2: But that's not all.

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Speaker 4: For Californias, who work hard, pay taxes and obey the laws.

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Speaker 4: I'm suing to force the federal government to control the

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Speaker 2: Enough is enough, Governor Pete Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Under the operation, a much higher number of agents were

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Speaker 1: of low wages in Mexico. To learn a little bit

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Operation Gatekeeper started in nineteen ninety four, in October

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Speaker 1: Alan Berson, US attorney in San Diego, was named the

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Speaker 10: Neither side claims it, but Gatekeeper was probably the most

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Speaker 1: But in fact, while apprehensions did drop in San Diego,

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Speaker 1: Patrol agent ran over and killed an Artham teenager. Last week,

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Speaker 1: recording to his family Well, mister Mattia's death is still

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Speaker 1: being investigated. The Border Patrol has a long tradition of

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Speaker 1: themselves using so called critical incident teams. I talked to

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Speaker 5: What they would do is they would get there first

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Speaker 5: they come, they get rid of the witnesses, They set

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Speaker 5: and they tell you the narrative that you're going to

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Speaker 5: stick with. You talk to your union reps, and it's

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Speaker 5: all this giant cover up.

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Speaker 1: Here's John Carlos Free, a journalist who covered ci T

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Speaker 11: Within the actual agency of the US Border Patrol, there

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Speaker 11: They are tasked with investigating incidents that involve Border Patrol

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Speaker 11: Anastasio Hernandez Rojas, border Patrol agents deleted video, they collected

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Speaker 11: They fudged reports, they deleted reports, They coached their own

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Speaker 11: They were present at every one of the depositions. They

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Speaker 11: And when I say that, what I mean is that

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Speaker 11: Border Patrol agents, SIT team agents make sure that Border

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Speaker 11: they alleged that Anastasio was violent and that he was

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, Border Patrol was ordered to disband

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Speaker 5: So then they said that they disbanded them because we

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Speaker 5: team that likely went to go investigate the tahonum Otum killing,

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Speaker 5: Patrol agents, a lot of people don't understand, it's like

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Speaker 1: Of Course, the vast majority of people whose families will

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Speaker 1: and of course Border Patrol has long rooted links to

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Speaker 1: The prosecutors in the case showed the jury text Bowen sent,

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Speaker 1: Bowen's mindset. Gents kind of language and attitude was not

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Speaker 5: There have been some definite changes in the border patrol,

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Speaker 1: Of course, this kind of language isn't just restricted to

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Speaker 12: The US has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.

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Speaker 12: I care, it's true, and these are the best and

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Speaker 1: They're not sending you.

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Speaker 12: They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're

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Speaker 12: bringing those problems with those. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime,

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Speaker 12: they're rapists, and some are assumer good people.

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Speaker 1: There has been white supremacist violence at the border ever

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Speaker 1: since Duke and long before. Often it's been at the

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Speaker 1: hands of groups outside of the state sometimes it's been

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Speaker 1: in the hands of the state. In Arizona, groups like

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Speaker 1: Arizona Border Ricon and minute Men American Defense have terrorized

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Speaker 1: border communities for decades, engage renewed momentum from Trump's consistent

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Speaker 1: demonization of migrants. I spent a bit of time looking

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Speaker 1: for them in the desert in Arizona last week, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't see much, not that I really wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Interaction with these militias probably far more off and then

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Speaker 1: we have documented evidence for can be fatal, just like

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Speaker 1: interaction with customs and border protection. Here's just one example

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Speaker 1: called from David Newitt's excellent book and health followed with her.

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Speaker 1: On May thirtieth, two thousand and nine, Seana Ford, Jason

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Speaker 1: Eugene Bush, and Albert Gacxiola, all members of Ford's vigilante

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Speaker 1: group min at Man American Defense, forced their way into

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Speaker 1: Raoul Flores Junior's home in Alavika, Arizona, bar pretending to

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Speaker 1: be border patrol agents. The group planned to steal and

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Speaker 1: sell drugs they thought Flores had in his house. The

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Speaker 1: FBI knew about this, but did nothing to stop them.

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Speaker 1: Finding no drugs in the house. CI Vigilante's murdered Flores

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Speaker 1: and his nine year old daughter, Bricennia, Flora's wife and

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Speaker 1: Brisennia's mother, Gina Marie Gonzalez, was shot three times. She

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Speaker 1: played dead, but when attackers returned, she exchanged fire with them,

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Speaker 1: using her husband's handgun. In doing so, she hit Bush.

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Speaker 1: Bush had previously been charged with a September nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: seven execution of an Aryan Nation associate for the supposed

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Speaker 1: crime of being a race traitor. Both Ford and Bush

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Speaker 1: are currently on death row in Arizona. The KKAK was

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Speaker 1: not the only group recruiting children for border patrolling. Since

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Speaker 1: the mid nineteen eighties, the Border Patrol's Explorer Program has

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Speaker 1: recruited young men and women of high school age. The

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Speaker 1: program is charted through Learning for Life, which is a

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Speaker 1: subsidiary of the Scouts of America. For kids, often the

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Speaker 1: children of immigrants living in border towns where industry has

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Speaker 1: long since gone in a decent wage is hard to

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Speaker 1: come by, the program offers the chance at a starting

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Speaker 1: salary of sixty two thousand dollars, twice a median income

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Speaker 1: in some of these towns. Young explorers will learn tracking, survival, shooting,

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Speaker 1: and how to detain and process on documented migrants, people

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Speaker 1: who in some cases are walking in the footsteps of

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Speaker 1: their own parents. According to an article by Moraling Music

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Speaker 1: in the Nation, young Explorers have to earn the right

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Speaker 1: to their uniform by participate in their sixty hour Basic

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Speaker 1: Explorer Academy, of which they learned CPR drills and the

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Speaker 1: methods of conducting vehicle stops. It also offers courses in

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Speaker 1: radio communications, public speaking, report writing, and ethics and integrity,

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Speaker 1: and introduces the US to criminal juvenile immigration of Fourth

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Speaker 1: Amendment law. While I was writing so checked out the

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Speaker 1: San Diego sector page, which seems to show young people running, shooting,

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Speaker 1: and one who looks like he's just been mased in

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Speaker 1: the face. The next photo on the Facebook page dedicated

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Speaker 1: to this Border Patrol sector shows a man in handcuffs.

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Speaker 1: Above this is a video of someone dropping a chart

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Speaker 1: from the top of the border fence. Without figures from

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Speaker 1: the CVP, it's hard to tell of participation in the

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Speaker 1: Explorers has dropped as public awareness of family separation assault

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Speaker 1: anw the behavior doesn't exactly fit with the Border Patrol's

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Speaker 1: motto on a first has spread. I asked Jen for

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Speaker 1: her take on the Explorer program.

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Speaker 5: Well, I call it Border Patrol US because it reminds

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Speaker 5: me a lot of the Hitler youth, where we go

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Speaker 5: into the high schools and we get the kids that

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Speaker 5: are in trouble, and typically they are Latino dominant high schools,

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Speaker 5: and we teach them how to be many Border patrol agents,

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Speaker 5: and we teach them to hate somebody else instead of themselves.

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Speaker 5: We indoctrinate them into the same stuff that I was

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Speaker 5: indoctrinating into. But it's even gone so far now as

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Speaker 5: to they do the dog and pony shows at the

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Speaker 5: elementary school, so they're getting them when they're like six

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Speaker 5: seven years old, and they go there with you a

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Speaker 5: little Border Patrol bulletproofess and put them on them and

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Speaker 5: take pictures and put it on social.

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Speaker 11: Media, and they.

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Speaker 5: Have them sit in their trucks and turn the signs

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Speaker 5: on and all this other stuff.

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Speaker 1: That indoctrination is crucial to border patrol culture. And to

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Speaker 1: be honest, the reason I wanted to talk to Jen

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Speaker 1: was to understand it better. In Ocomber, i'd see a

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Speaker 1: young Border patrol agent, a woman giving volunteers rights. I'm

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Speaker 1: not about to get into a Border Patrol truck myself,

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Speaker 1: and I wasn't going to get a response by asked

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Speaker 1: the agent how she squared up her role in holding

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Speaker 1: people in the desert with the fact that some volunteers

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Speaker 1: said she'd spend her own money buying supplies. Jen said

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Speaker 1: that this kind of behavior can be pretty common with

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Speaker 1: young agents.

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Speaker 5: I had intended to go to law school to be a

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Speaker 5: civil rights attorney when I joined the Border Patrol, and

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Speaker 5: for me, I ignored my core values and ignored that

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Speaker 5: I was enforcing laws that sent thousands of human beings

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Speaker 5: to their deaths because I felt like I was trying

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Speaker 5: to survive. I was raped in the academy by a

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Speaker 5: fellow agent, and they covered that up, and I was

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Speaker 5: really trying to get out of the South and start

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Speaker 5: my life. I would say like, especially with female agents,

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Speaker 5: they calls it ers five percent, because there's never been

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Speaker 5: more than five percent of women in the Border Patrol rates.

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Speaker 5: And they say, oh, it's because it's very hard. It's

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Speaker 5: not because it's very hard. I mean, it is very

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Speaker 5: hard to get through, but it's also it's because they're

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Speaker 5: actually assaulting us all the time in the academy and

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Speaker 5: halassing us. So I go back and forth in my

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Speaker 5: mind and I would imagine this young woman. You know,

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Speaker 5: she has days where she arrests some pretty decent criminals

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Speaker 5: every now and then once in a blue moon, but

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Speaker 5: the majority of them, if she's paying attention and not

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Speaker 5: completely self absorbed, she'll realize that they're not criminals and

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Speaker 5: their families just simply seeking asylum. So she at some

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Speaker 5: point has to decide in her mind, is this what

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Speaker 5: I got into? Is this what I want to do

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Speaker 5: with my life.

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Speaker 1: In the wake of nine to eleven, and quite tellingly,

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Speaker 1: the Border Patrol moved from oversight by the Department of

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Speaker 1: Justice to the new Department of Homeland Security. This move

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Speaker 1: from Justice as Security has been echoed in its recruiting,

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Speaker 1: which once drew heavily on those its humanitarian aid experience

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Speaker 1: and now tries to appeal to veterans of the two

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Speaker 1: decades of war that have accompanied the growth of DHS

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Speaker 1: Since two thousand and one, when the DHS was first established,

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Speaker 1: the name struck many as problematic. In the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and two article in The New York Times, Elizabeth Becker

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Speaker 1: wrote that the name had worrying similarities to the way

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Speaker 1: the Nazis talked about their fatherland, and it didn't really

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Speaker 1: fit with the way Americans spoke. Nobody in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and one was talking about the homeland. But two decades

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Speaker 1: and billions of dollars later, it's hard to find much

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Speaker 1: in the way of criticism of the agency in DC,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that the twenty twenty two budgets of

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Speaker 1: CBP and ICE was sixteen and eight billion, respectively, and

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Speaker 1: every year since two thousand and one, DHS has obtained

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Speaker 1: more guns, more drones, and more surveillance technology that is

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Speaker 1: inevitably used to spy on citizens as well as non citizens.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety five, there are about four thousand CBP agents.

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Speaker 1: By twenty twenty there were twenty thousand, with seventeen thousand

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Speaker 1: stations on the southern border. This is a slight drop

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Speaker 1: from a peak of just over twenty one thousand under Obama,

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Speaker 1: who is often called the deporter in chief. RI is

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Speaker 1: fondness for expelling people from the United States for crimes

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Speaker 1: like having a PieP or financial misconduct, the so called

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Speaker 1: aggravated felonies and crimes of moral turpitude that only exists

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Speaker 1: for non citizens. These agents today have the ability to

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Speaker 1: operate in what the ACLU calls a constitution free zone

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Speaker 1: and can conduct suspicion free searches of electronic devices, use

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Speaker 1: cell site simulators, and sweep up data about thousands of

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Speaker 1: people never accused of any crime. One of the more

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Speaker 1: notable examples of this happened only a few yards from

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Speaker 1: where I was recording last week in Santa Cidro. It's

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Speaker 1: a story worth recounting in detail because it brings together

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Speaker 1: the themes we've spoken about so far, demonization of migrants,

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Speaker 1: government overreach, and a frank disregard for international and national law.

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Speaker 1: In late twenty eighteen, I was enjoying a break from

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Speaker 1: work in a caravan near in Sonata. If you think

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Speaker 1: back to that time, right before the midterms, you might

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Speaker 1: remember some of the rhetoric thats circulated around large group

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Speaker 1: of migrants making their way to the southern border. I'll

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Speaker 1: play some of the clips from Fox that MPR cut

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Speaker 1: together in their coverage of the issue.

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Speaker 13: The sympathetic, overwrought coverage of this invading horde is calling

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Speaker 13: it a caravans, a misnomer in a frankly sickness.

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Speaker 9: Or sample the Chipper Morning show Fox and Friends.

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Speaker 14: I've gotten so many email from people who said don't

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Speaker 14: call it a cat caravan.

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Speaker 5: Call it an invasion.

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Is that fair?

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Speaker 9: Host Steve Doocy put the question to conservative pundit Michelle malkin.

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Speaker 5: Of course it is.

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Speaker 11: It is a full scale invasion by a hostile force,

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Speaker 11: and it requires our president and our commander in chief

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Speaker 11: to use any means necessary to protect our sovereignty.

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Speaker 9: CNN's Brian Stelter found that Fox News featured segments using

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Speaker 9: the phrase invasion more than sixty times this month about

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Speaker 9: the migrants. On Fox Business Network, lou Dobbs's program invoked

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Speaker 9: it dozens of times. Trump ordered five thousand troops to

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Speaker 9: the border. He tweeted yesterday, quote, this is an invasion

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Speaker 9: of our country, and Trump has, without evidence, claimed gang

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Speaker 9: members and criminals and Middle Easterners are among them. Over

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Speaker 9: on Fox, guests have similarly, without supporting facts, suggested people

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Speaker 9: from Isis and the Taliban might be among those migrants.

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Speaker 9: Even so, the network's chief news anchor, Shepherd Smith, tried

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Speaker 9: to put on the brakes yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Tomorrow is one week before the midterm election, which is

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Speaker 6: what all of this is about. There is no invasion,

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Speaker 6: No one's coming to get you. There's nothing at all

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Speaker 6: to worry about this month.

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Speaker 9: Fox hosts and guests have repeatedly questions whether the migrants

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Speaker 9: might bring in infectious diseases again without evidence. Laura Ingram,

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Speaker 9: we don't.

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Speaker 13: Know what people have coming in here. We have diseases

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Speaker 13: in this country we haven't had for decades.

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Speaker 1: I'll leave you to process the incredible arrogy of the

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Speaker 1: network that killed the decent percentage of its viewers by

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Speaker 1: denying that COVID was serious or a disease, or the

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Speaker 1: vaccines and masks are useful panicking about infectious diseases. Just

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Speaker 1: two years before the pandemic began, the Tree of Life

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Speaker 1: shooter who we won't name here, who is currently facing

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Speaker 1: a death penunty trial for murdering eleven people in a

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh synagogue, was obsessed with the caravan. The victims of

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Speaker 1: the largest anti Semitic mass murder in US history included

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Speaker 1: a beloved community doctor, a great grandmother, and a couple

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Speaker 1: who'd gotten married at the same synagogue more than sixty

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Speaker 1: years earlier. The shooter's last post on hate speech social

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Speaker 1: media site gab, posted just minutes before the synagogue massacre,

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Speaker 1: spells it out with a reference to the Hebrew immigrant

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Speaker 1: Aid Society, the Jewish nonprofit that resettles refugees in the

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Speaker 1: United States. Hiat liked to bring invadives to kill our people.

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Speaker 1: I can't sit by on watch my people get slaughtered.

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Speaker 1: Screw your optics, I'm going in. The shooter was obsessed

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Speaker 1: with the idea that a caravan of migrants with not

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Speaker 1: a group of people trying to save their own lives,

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Speaker 1: but a coordinated and somehow Jewish led invasion an attempts

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Speaker 1: to demographically restructure the United States. If you're ending where

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Speaker 1: he got that idea from, he is America's favorite job

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Speaker 1: seek at. Tucker Carlson on the caravan.

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Speaker 14: Over the past month, a caravan of Central American migrants

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Speaker 14: has gradually made its way up from Honduras through Mexico

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Speaker 14: all the way to Tijuana opposite San Diego. At one point,

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Speaker 14: Mexican authorities claimed they broke up the group, and American media,

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Speaker 14: of course dutifully reported that they did, but they didn't.

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Speaker 14: That was just a pr gesture and a temporary one.

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Speaker 14: In fact, during parts of the trip, Mexican police escorted

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Speaker 14: the migrants northward. In other words, the Mexican government a

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Speaker 14: did illegal immigration into this country as it has done

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Speaker 14: for many years. Well, tonight the caravan is on our

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Speaker 14: southern border. Rather than wait for the crossing station at

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Speaker 14: Sania Sidro to open, many of them just jumped the fence.

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Speaker 14: Some waved on during flags when they got to the top.

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Speaker 14: And that tells you everything. When you arrive in a

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Speaker 14: country to contribute to it and to assimilate into its culture,

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Speaker 14: you don't wave the flag of a foreign nation. That's

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Speaker 14: what you do in triumph when you invader country.

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Speaker 1: On my way home from Ensnado in twenty eighteen, I

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Speaker 1: saw that quote invading Horde in the Benito Quadi Sports

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Speaker 1: Complex and probably turned around and went back. My instinct

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Speaker 1: as a journalist is to cover things like this, but

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Speaker 1: my instinct to the person is to help first. On

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Speaker 1: the first day I was there with two friends I

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Speaker 1: know from the weird world of pro cycling. Things were

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Speaker 1: pretty bad. We'd obtained a backpack full of stroop waffles

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Speaker 1: that a friend who makes stroop waffles have given us.

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Speaker 1: Once we gave those out, I talked to a few

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Speaker 1: people about what they needed. We coordinated with mutual a

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Speaker 1: groups in Tijuana and off its support or have a weeked.

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Speaker 1: In the next few weeks, my friends and I spent

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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of dollars at a Tijuana costco, received

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Speaker 1: thousands of dollars in donations from people we hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: in years, and in one memorable instance, rigged up a

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Speaker 1: projected as someone had tactically obtained from an office to

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Speaker 1: a DVD player which we'd installed in the roof of

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Speaker 1: a dilapidated nightclub for little children and their mothers so

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Speaker 1: they could watch Beverly Hills, Chihuahua and forget about the

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Speaker 1: fact that the country they were traveling to was portraying

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Speaker 1: these little infants as invaders. I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: very complicated memories of those few weeks. Little girls braiding

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Speaker 1: my hair, little boys and girls trying to comprehend exactly

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Speaker 1: how I could be this bad at football, and people

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Speaker 1: from San Diego churches, Tijuana anarchist kitchens, and mutual a

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Speaker 1: groups around the region coming together to look after a

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Speaker 1: group of people who'd been so heavily demonized by folks

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Speaker 1: who had never met them or even been here. His

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Speaker 1: Trump defending calling the caravan an invasion and simultaneously explaining

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Speaker 1: why migrants low wage to labor is desirable for people

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Speaker 1: like him.

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Speaker 15: Thank you, this president, I challenge you on one of

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Speaker 15: the statements that you made in the tail end of

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Speaker 15: the campaign in the mid terms that here we go that, well,

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Speaker 15: if you don't mind, miss president coming that this caravan

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Speaker 15: was an invasion, as you know, consider it to be.

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Speaker 15: As you know, miss President, the caravan was not an invasion.

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Speaker 15: It's a it's a a group of migrants moving up

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Speaker 15: from Central America towards the border with the US.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for dan.

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Speaker 15: Why why did you why did you characterize it as such?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 8: As I consider an invasion, you and I have a

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Speaker 8: difference of it.

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Speaker 15: But do you think that you demonized immigrants.

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Speaker 10: Not as election to try.

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Speaker 4: I want them.

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Speaker 8: I want them to come into the country, but they

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Speaker 8: have to come in legally. You know, they have to

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Speaker 8: come in Jim through a process. I wanted to be

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Speaker 8: a process and I want people to come in. And

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Speaker 8: we need the people.

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Speaker 15: Your campaign, your campaign.

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Speaker 8: You know why we need the people, does you? Because

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Speaker 8: we have hundreds of companies moving in. We need the people.

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Speaker 1: Trump, as you heard in the clip, use a migrant

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Speaker 1: caravan and to prop for his racism big midterm campaign.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work and he lost control of the house,

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Speaker 1: but he did succeed in forcing these people to spend

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Speaker 1: months in the cold, first in a sports stadium and

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Speaker 1: then the old nightclub. Even as a migrant gradually reduced

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Speaker 1: in number, with many finding work and a new life

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Speaker 1: in Mexico, some finding their way north. The long legacy

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Speaker 1: of that caravan was only just starting. In the months

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Speaker 1: have followed journalists who'd covered the caravan, as well as

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Speaker 1: those who offered assistant to caravan members, so they felt

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Speaker 1: they'd become targets of intense inspections of scrutiny by border officials.

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Speaker 1: I got pulled into secondarily once during this time, and

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Speaker 1: that was entering Mexaco. The worst I got was a

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Speaker 1: chance to inspect my nineteen eighty pickup trucks soil pen.

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Speaker 1: But for others things weren't so easy. Homeland Security Investigation

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Speaker 1: special agent turned whistleblower Wesley Peternac helped NBC to document

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Speaker 1: that under the umbrella of what was called Operation Secure Line,

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Speaker 1: the Department of Homeland Security created a database of activists, journalists,

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Speaker 1: and social media influences tied to the migrant caravan when

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Speaker 1: they crossed the border. Individuals in that database were often

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Speaker 1: subjected to hours long screenings and in some cases had

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Speaker 1: flagspaced on their passports. A PowerPoint slideshow which Petanac leaked

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Speaker 1: to NBC seven list some of the people, some of

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Speaker 1: them have been guests on this show. They include ten journalists,

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Speaker 1: seven on whom are US citizens, a US attorney, forty

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Speaker 1: eight people from the US and other countries who are

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Speaker 1: labeled as organizers, instigators, or having unknown roles. The target

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Speaker 1: lists also includes organizers from groups like Border Angels and

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Speaker 1: Pueblos in Frontellas I asked journalists brook Ben Cowsey to

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Speaker 1: describe her experience of increased border scrutiny in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 16: If you don't have a pre approved card, you have

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Speaker 16: to like go through wait and line, wait in this

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Speaker 16: long ass line, and then you know, you go and

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Speaker 16: get vetted by CDP. They ask you some questions or

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Speaker 16: they just wave you through, depending on what kind of

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Speaker 16: day they're having or whatever. So in my case, I

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Speaker 16: started getting pulled into secondary inspection more and more so

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Speaker 16: they would wave my car over and then take me

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Speaker 16: into this secondary place where it's sort of like this

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Speaker 16: back it's like a Quonsett pet sort of, and in

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Speaker 16: it like all these cars drive in and out, and

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Speaker 16: they'll they'll go through your things, they'll get in your face,

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Speaker 16: you know, they'll do all kinds of stuff. And I

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Speaker 16: don't there have to be cameras in there somewhere, but

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Speaker 16: I've never seen any. So I just kept getting pulled

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Speaker 16: into secondary more and more as though I was this

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Speaker 16: suspicious person, as though I was suspected of something, and

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Speaker 16: every time I asked, they'd be like, I don't know,

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Speaker 16: it's just random, ma'am, and ma'am, it's just random. So

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Speaker 16: actually this started about twenty fourteen for me, but it

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Speaker 16: started to escalate in twenty eighteen. Twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen

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Speaker 16: started to escalate, and I was like, a fucking Trump administration,

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Speaker 16: of course going to escalate.

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Speaker 1: Right under Trump, She said, things got worse.

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Speaker 16: From twenty seventeen through twenty eighteen. It kind of worked

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Speaker 16: where you push back and I'd be like, you need

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Speaker 16: to let me fucking go. You know, I'm century, I'm

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Speaker 16: already pre checked. If you think that there's something wrong

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Speaker 16: that I'm doing, and take my fucking century away, and

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Speaker 16: I want to talk to your manager type stuff, right,

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Speaker 16: So I.

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Speaker 13: Was doing that.

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Speaker 16: That worked until twenty eighteen, and then it started to

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Speaker 16: get really garmly.

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Speaker 1: Eventually things came to a head. The day before the

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Speaker 1: migrants of the caravan were tia gassed. And I've seen

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Speaker 1: most people remember from twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 16: So but on that night, as I was coming back,

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Speaker 16: I drove through and I did the sentry thing, you know,

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Speaker 16: the usual stuff, and got pulled into secondary and this

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Speaker 16: time it was really like gnarly. The time before that

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Speaker 16: had also been really gnarlly, like nobody hurt me, nobody

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Speaker 16: did anything. But they got really close to my face,

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Speaker 16: like brighten my face, you know, and started screaming at me,

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Speaker 16: like screaming over me. And I kept going, I'd like

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Speaker 16: to speak to your manager, you know, sir, like please

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Speaker 16: please get out of my face, sir. And it was

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Speaker 16: it was gross and they were going through my shit

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Speaker 16: and that was gross. Like they didn't find anything, but

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Speaker 16: it was just an invasive, hostile, disgusting thing. And that

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Speaker 16: was when so I said, can I speak to your manager?

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Speaker 16: Which is a magic phrase when you're a middle aged

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Speaker 16: white woman. So I say this, and they bring over

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Speaker 16: some guy and he goes, ma'am, can I help you?

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Speaker 16: I'm like, yeah, what the fuck? You know, why are

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Speaker 16: you treating me this way? Why did any of this happen?

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Speaker 16: And he goes, oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Your name's on

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Speaker 16: a list summer you've been flagg And I'm like, so

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Speaker 16: every time I've crossed, I've been flagged. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 16: and yeah, you've been. There's a flag on your passport

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Speaker 16: or against your name and that's why. And I said, well,

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Speaker 16: why is there a flag against my name? And he goes,

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Speaker 16: I don't know, You're going to have to do a

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Speaker 16: Freedom of Information Act request or something. I don't even

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Speaker 16: know if he knew I was a journalist.

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Speaker 1: Sadly brooklast cross in twenty eighteen, and since I photographed

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Speaker 1: those Cumi folks in ceremony near Campo, the border wall

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Speaker 1: has only got longer. Every mile it stretches out means

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Speaker 1: another mile into the desert people have to walk, and

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Speaker 1: that means that more people won't walk out of that desert.

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Speaker 1: Those people who lost their lives, an attempt to save them,

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Speaker 1: a mark with little red dots on the various maps,

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Speaker 1: an attempt to put the humanitarian crisis into a visual form.

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Speaker 1: Those dots begin in South America's people die traveling north,

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Speaker 1: but they're sparse and isolated. Where that changes is the

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Speaker 1: places I've been driving all week, Eastern California, southern Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Places I know from years of hiking, climbing, and cycling,

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Speaker 1: Places where one mistake can be fatal. I know for

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Speaker 1: my friends who spend time resupplying water caches and searching

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Speaker 1: for missing people, that you don't have to make any

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Speaker 1: mistakes to die in the desert, especially if you're young

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Speaker 1: or old, or sick or afraid to ask for help.

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Speaker 1: These are the places we force people to travel through

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Speaker 1: on foot to come here and create a better future

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Speaker 1: for themselves. Dehydration, exposure, and drowning or rank highly as

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Speaker 1: caused a death along the border. Last year saw a

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Speaker 1: record for border deaths, and with Biden attempting to take

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Speaker 1: a hard line going into twenty twenty four, and climate

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Speaker 1: change and instability continuing to drive migrants north to the

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Speaker 1: place that causes so much of that climate change and instability,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to believe things will get better. I

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Speaker 1: want to point to one tragic loss, one of thousands,

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Speaker 1: that happened not far from where I live. In February

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, Juana Margalita and Paula Santosarthe were traveling

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Speaker 1: by foot from Wahaka to their future in the United

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Speaker 1: States along a trail sometimes known as the Shrine Trail.

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Speaker 1: Their family told media back home that they were searching

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Speaker 1: for us when you are Medicano the American Dream. Along

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Speaker 1: their route is a small religious shrine which marks the

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Speaker 1: last point from which you can see in Mexico. It's

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Speaker 1: well inside the US along a dry creek bed in

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Speaker 1: the Laguna Mountains. It can be hot in the summer

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Speaker 1: and cold in the winter. Last November I camped out there,

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Speaker 1: and even with thousands of dollars in gear, I was

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Speaker 1: dangerously close to cold injury. I've also rescued hikers with

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Speaker 1: dehydration symptoms near here. The desert and the weather might

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Speaker 1: be part of the story, but the desert doesn't kill

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Speaker 1: people on its own. It's the border that forces people

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Speaker 1: deep into the desert that kills them. The desert is

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Speaker 1: just a tool for a system that uses death of

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Speaker 1: the current. When the girls cross the border near Campo

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Speaker 1: on the ninth of February, it was raining. As they

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Speaker 1: climbed the Laguna Mountains, it started to snow. They huddled

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Speaker 1: under a bolder for warmth, and the two men smuggling

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Speaker 1: them across struck out to get SAR reception and corn

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Speaker 1: nine to one one. By the time boor Star Border Patrol,

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Speaker 1: Search Trauma and Rescue team arrived, two of the girls

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Speaker 1: had died as they tried to save Juana. Their request

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Speaker 1: for air support was declined, and she died with one

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Speaker 1: of the agent's jackkits wrapped around her and another agent's

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Speaker 1: beanie on her head. For some reason, the girl's remains

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Speaker 1: were not recovered right away, and they were not rewarmed,

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Speaker 1: and so they last their last chance at the American

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Speaker 1: dream and not life. Today, their final resting place is

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Speaker 1: marked by three crosses and a cash of supplies placed

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Speaker 1: there by volunteers. At the time I'm recording this, we

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Speaker 1: don't know where all the folks we met at the

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Speaker 1: border are now. Then we might never know. Not being

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Speaker 1: able to follow stories is the sad part of this reporting.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes knows people all have my phone number, but they

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Speaker 1: might not any more have their phones or this scrap

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Speaker 1: of paper are wroteed on. Often these things can be

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Speaker 1: taken for them in custody. What we do know is

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Speaker 1: that on May eighteenth, exactly one week after title forty two,

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Speaker 1: ended Immigration and Customers Enforcement also known as ICE, tweeted

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Speaker 1: a video of Customs Enforcement and Removal Operations agents walking

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Speaker 1: down the corridor of a flight full of mass people.

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Speaker 1: The caption read ICE conducted multiple removal flights including Ecuador, Guatemala,

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Speaker 1: and Honduras as part of dozens flights conducted each week.

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Speaker 1: On the wall of my office as I write this,

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Speaker 1: there are several propaganda posters from the Spanish Second Republic.

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Speaker 1: One is as simple as it is heartbreaking. The poster

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Speaker 1: depicts a squadron of fascist bombers and the dead body

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Speaker 1: of a child. The slogan underneath reads, if you tolerate this,

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Speaker 1: then your children will be next. The poster was, of

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Speaker 1: course correct. It was the inspiration for songs for the

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Speaker 1: Clash and the Mansue preachers, which are what, in turn

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Speaker 1: made me want to learn about the Spanish Civil War.

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Speaker 1: The slogan, coined in nineteen thirty seven, feels as relevant

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Speaker 1: today as it does then. It was one that folks

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Speaker 1: on the border might as well have been screaming by

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, but one that went ignored, just as it

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Speaker 1: did in nineteen thirty seven. In twenty twenty, folks began

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Speaker 1: to realize what it meant when border patrol drones circled

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Speaker 1: the skies around Minneapolis and cell phone signal interceptors tracked

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Speaker 1: citizens all over the US when they came together to

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Speaker 1: demand that the police stopped murdering people. It became more

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Speaker 1: real in twenty twenty three when under DeSantis, Florida began

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Speaker 1: the process of legalizing state kidnapping of trans and gender

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Speaker 1: nonperforming kids from their loving families. But that all began

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Speaker 1: when the state ripped Indigenous children for their families in

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Speaker 1: the nineteenth and twentieth centuries who tried to destroy their

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Speaker 1: culture by punishing them for wearing their clothes, speaking their languages,

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Speaker 1: or using their names. Wasn't a big leap from there

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Speaker 1: to Trump's family separation policy, which detained kids on their own,

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Speaker 1: away from their families as a means of punishing a

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Speaker 1: deterring migrants, And it's reached its obvious endpoint in Florida

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Speaker 1: because despite all the people chanting about kids in courages

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, it's almost universal bipartisan agreement on treating

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Speaker 1: people of our southern border like humans without rights. And

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Speaker 1: because for two decades we've allowed the border surveillance industrial

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Speaker 1: complex to grow an unprecedented and uncontrollable scale. But what

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Speaker 1: you us all changing things now will be very difficult.

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Speaker 1: DHS aren't numbers many nations armies, and it's considerably better equipped.

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Speaker 1: But unless people show up and take action, things are

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Speaker 1: going to get considerably worse, regardless of who you vote

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Speaker 1: for or what they say in order to get you

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Speaker 1: to vote for them. As Katie said, little things can

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Speaker 1: make a difference. Now, if you listen this far, I

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Speaker 1: hope you'll take the time to try and do those

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Speaker 1: little things. Before we go, I want to update you

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Speaker 1: on what's happened in the week we've been publishing this.

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Speaker 1: Although there are no longer people held out in the

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Speaker 1: open in gomber and sant Asedra, there are still many

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Speaker 1: people trying to present themselves at the sant Asedra border

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Speaker 1: to claim asylum. Today I was told they are about

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Speaker 1: one hundred of them. They're waiting there, often for days.

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Speaker 1: Most of them are getting turned away. They're all frustrated

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Speaker 1: with CVP one which continues to be buggy, offer no

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Speaker 1: appointments and struggle to photograph black faces. I also wanted

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Speaker 1: to mention some of the organizations you can find and

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Speaker 1: donate to if you'd like to support their rector. They

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Speaker 1: are the Asian Solidarity Collective, Alo Trollaro, the American Friends

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Speaker 1: Service Committee, Border Kindness, Borderlands Relief Collective, the Haitian Bridge Alliance,

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Speaker 1: the Partnership for the Advancement of New Americans and PREVENKASA

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Speaker 1: pr E V E N C A s A. I'd

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Speaker 1: also like to thank Joe Oriana his Twitter is at

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Speaker 1: Joe or Photo for his reporting which very much contributed

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Speaker 1: to this series. It Could Happen Here as a production

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Speaker 1: of cool Zone Media.

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