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Speaker 2: oh one point one. Torres inve Vegas. I want in

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Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup Final. Here to is in the La

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios, Jason Martin and in our Nashville studios.

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Speaker 3: Jason.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, man? How you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing all right, doing better than last week. Last

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Speaker 4: week I was struggling to speak halfway through the show.

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Speaker 4: I'm still dealing with a cough, like the pollen is

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Speaker 4: out of control in my part of the country. But

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling a little bit better. My braves are about

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Speaker 4: to play, and it has been kind of a rough

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Speaker 4: few weeks for us, so really hoping we can.

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Speaker 2: Get you more magnet again. Did you move the magni again?

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Speaker 4: No, but I am thinking I might need to, like something.

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Speaker 4: Something has gone awry and injuries. We've lost two key

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Speaker 4: starters off the rotation. We're bringing dudes up that may

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Speaker 4: or may not be ready and throwing them in the mix.

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Speaker 4: It's just, uh, it's it's it's a little treacherous. But look,

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Speaker 4: it's a long season and it's only June, so I

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Speaker 4: still feel good about things.

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Speaker 3: Still a lot to like about this club.

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Speaker 4: But it's not It's not as easy street as it

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Speaker 4: was about a month ago when it just felt like, man,

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Speaker 4: this team is just absolutely raking. Not to mention, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't seem like anybody score on him, but that has

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Speaker 4: that has since shifted, So that's a thing that's happening.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow's Game two in the NBA Finals, As you mentioned,

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Speaker 4: Stanley Cup about a minute left in the second period,

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Speaker 4: there there's a lot happening. Of course, there's offseason NFL

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Speaker 4: news Aaron Rodgers. Still there's still a topic out there

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Speaker 4: about Aaron Rodgers, like there has to be right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, A few people are better at at

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Speaker 2: And it was funny because as we were kind of

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Speaker 2: putting the run down together today, I was kind of like,

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Speaker 2: I just I don't really you know, it's like and

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Speaker 2: it is I know that like sports radio guys and

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Speaker 2: girls do this all the time of like comparing everything

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Speaker 2: to like a relationship, and it's like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I had a you know when the Bucks lost, like

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Speaker 2: it was the worst worst moment since my wife left

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Speaker 2: me or whatever. Like I don't I can't think of

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Speaker 2: a good analogy, but like this is kind of the

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Speaker 2: breakup where it's like okay, like like we get it.

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Speaker 2: You guys didn't like each other and you both seem

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Speaker 2: happy without each other, so you don't need to keep

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Speaker 2: talking about each other. Like it's ironic, right, Like this week,

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Speaker 2: there was a story that came out that Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: texted Tom Brady after the Super Bowl winning Tampa congratulations blah,

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Speaker 2: that was one where Brady and Belichick it just felt

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Speaker 2: like both sides moved on. Brady was happy, you know,

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Speaker 2: new guy, new team, new coaching staff, new weapons, and

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Speaker 2: Belichick kept doing his Belichick thing and it just was

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Speaker 2: Packers thing, it's like it just won't end. Like even

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Speaker 2: when we knew they were broken up, but they weren't

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Speaker 2: other stuff to talk to. We gotta talk about Game

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Speaker 2: one and obviously Game two tomorrow night. But like I

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Speaker 2: the way, in the hockey game on much lighter news.

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Speaker 2: The Florida Panthers have tied things up at to a

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Speaker 2: have to spend the whole show on it, let alone

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Speaker 2: the entire first segment. But it's like, I get it,

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Speaker 2: it was bad whatever. I'm just over like hearing the

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Speaker 2: new leak's story. No, listen to my version of events. No,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't really my fault. It's like I'm just ready

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Speaker 2: to move on, just ready to move on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess my attitude. Although they're not perfect comparisons,

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Speaker 4: it's just kind of you ever see, like the athlete

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Speaker 4: you hear about him doing something in a game, you

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Speaker 4: haven't heard his name forever, you forgot he was in

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Speaker 4: the league, and then like your reaction is like, oh man,

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Speaker 4: I guy's still in the league.

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Speaker 3: That's still a thing.

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Speaker 4: I had no idea, Like we had all moved on

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Speaker 4: and then he was still there. Like That's kind of

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Speaker 4: how I felt when I saw this story. I was

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Speaker 4: just like, dude, he's not there anymore. No gives who

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Speaker 4: happen with the Jets, positive or negative. That's gonna be scintillating.

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Speaker 4: But y'all didn't like each other like four years ago.

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Speaker 4: You've been arguing in the restaurant in front of you

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Speaker 4: know company for like half a decade, Like we've seen this.

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Speaker 4: We've read the articles. Uh, we've read the articles, about

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Speaker 4: the articles, about the books, about the articles, like there's

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Speaker 4: no there's no stone left to unturn here. We know

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Speaker 4: you guys, you know that was that was something needed

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Speaker 4: know it. Well, who is it here that's keeping this alive?

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Speaker 4: Like no one cares. Let's just move on.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's move on and we can maybe circle back

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Speaker 2: on that a little bit later. Although again I don't

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Speaker 2: But let's focus on the story of the week in sports,

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Speaker 2: and that is obviously Game one of the NBA Finals

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Speaker 2: was Thursday night, and unfortunately, like I think, it kind

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Speaker 2: and jump in and correct me if I'm wrong, Jason,

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Speaker 2: But no, yeah, I was gonna say, you know, Denver

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Speaker 2: and I think we all kind of thought, Okay, Denver's

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Speaker 2: think that's my biggest takeaway is I like the Nuggets

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Speaker 2: the question becomes, obviously, can the Heat steal a game

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Speaker 4: End, yeah, I mean, I mean, you're right, And that's

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Speaker 4: actually what I told you before the show.

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Speaker 3: I said it.

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Speaker 4: Kind of took the theme out of much of what

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Speaker 4: seven win for Miami. The rest for the Denver playing

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Speaker 4: out of breath. They've gotten used to it. It's why

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Speaker 4: they always have a good home record. Even when they're

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Speaker 3: And then he didn't.

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Speaker 4: Even have to score to be relevant because he can

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Speaker 4: and then he still ends up at twenty seven points

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Speaker 4: one point, though, I think the series is over. I

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Speaker 4: just I looked at that and I said, I mean,

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Speaker 4: just look at Denver and I saw a team that

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Speaker 4: That's what we talked about Mark Medina a couple of

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Speaker 2: All right, So I was trying to build some suspense

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Speaker 2: for the remaining three three hours in fifty minutes that

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Speaker 2: one thing that stands out to me. I do think

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Speaker 2: the miles are starting to add up on Jimmy Butler's odometer,

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Speaker 2: because it's interesting I was thinking about this is that.

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Speaker 2: And it's easy, I think for people game to game,

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Speaker 2: But like part of the reason I vividly remember this,

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Speaker 2: last night last week in this time slot as Game

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Speaker 2: six ended at the buzzer Derek White with that put back.

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Speaker 2: But one of the conversations that we were having after

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Speaker 2: that game was that Jimmy Butler said himself, I can't

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Speaker 2: play much worse. I feel great about Game seven because

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Speaker 2: I can't play much worse. So I bring it up

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Speaker 2: five for twenty one last week in Game six in Miami,

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Speaker 2: and then six of fourteen in the game last week

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Speaker 2: probably what would worry meet now. If you look at

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Speaker 2: the totality of the Miami Heat, it was just a

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Speaker 2: bad night overall for a lot of guys, especially their shooters.

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Speaker 3: It's just that simple. Like Miami is not.

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Speaker 4: It just means that's not really the Jimmy Butler that

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you this, Alex Teyshirt the Memory of

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Speaker 2: this was Jason Martin's favorite song, very clearly trying to

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Speaker 3: I'll have a bad side, Torres.

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Speaker 2: That's true. So you're saying you do have a bad side. Interesting? Oh,

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Speaker 2: the plot, the plot thinkings that is Jason Martin's favorite show.

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Speaker 2: That when we learned it when last time Tyshirt was

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Speaker 4: Sorry, yes, yeah, collaborate and listen Alex.

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Speaker 2: Or was he did he really know? Was he really

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Speaker 6: I could see him doing that at Chris Prefett. You

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Speaker 4: And that's what you should be doing, Chris, you should

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Speaker 2: Brother WHOA tell me? Tell tyshe is the pros pro.

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Speaker 2: But we we're glad to have Alex tyschert in. Of

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Speaker 6: So it's trivia, but it is terrifying because I don't

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Speaker 6: know you'll love this one. It's gonna be called plant

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Speaker 2: You know, that's great. I'm excited.

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Speaker 4: That's well, that's yeah, that's got legs.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking if it was like the plant based

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Speaker 2: If I had don't even in, we could have done tyshirts,

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Speaker 2: So all right, Jason, let's get back to the NBA game.

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Speaker 2: One is in the books, the Denver Nuggets take care

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Speaker 2: just set it up for you and you take it here, Jason.

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Speaker 3: So this kind of thing happens.

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Speaker 4: think that this team is a championship team, because I

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Speaker 4: don't think one and two on this team.

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Speaker 3: I think one.

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Speaker 4: I like Tatum, even though he can be inconsistent.

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Speaker 3: I still really like him.

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Speaker 4: Brown's the one where I'm trying to find something similar

438
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Speaker 4: but not identical, and put Brown in a situation where

439
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Speaker 4: maybe he can flourish elsewhere, because there's there's something wrong

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Speaker 4: with the energy surrounding the team and the sense of urgency,

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Speaker 4: and the way that at times they just look like

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Speaker 4: a C minus team on the floor, and that most

443
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Speaker 4: of the great teams on their worst days they still

444
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Speaker 4: look like a B minus and this, this Celtics team

445
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Speaker 4: could look positively mediocre.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's tough because, like I think, there are

447
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Speaker 2: times where like there's no doubt, you just you got

448
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Speaker 2: to blow it up. And I think there's other times

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Speaker 2: where I think you largely, you know, you largely run

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Speaker 2: it back. I mean we talked to We've talked about

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Speaker 2: it for the last few weeks. But like with the

452
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Lakers, I know that Lebron, you know, kind

453
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Speaker 2: of did the whole you know, I might be retiring

454
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Speaker 2: and this might be it for me, and we all

455
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Speaker 2: kind of thought it was maybe a leverage play. And

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Speaker 2: I bring it up because I said, like, look, the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: I understand that any season for Lebron James it doesn't

458
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Speaker 2: end in a championship is disappointing to him. But best

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Speaker 2: team in the NBA after the All Star or after

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Speaker 2: the trade deadline, excuse me, when that corps was together

461
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Speaker 2: destroy the defending champs in round two. I think that's

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Speaker 2: a group that you should largely bring back because I

463
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Speaker 2: think they're if they can stay healthy. You're largely just

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Speaker 2: scratching the surface of what you're capable of.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I understand there's cap restrictions that can you really bring

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Speaker 2: back Austin Reeves. I'll leave the capologist to figure all

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Speaker 2: that stuff out. But the point I'm trying to make

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Speaker 2: is if you can run it back, you should. And

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Speaker 2: the Celtics, like I don't think it's a definitive. You

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Speaker 2: gotta blow it up. The end of the road is here.

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Speaker 2: But I do think you have to consider what else

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Speaker 2: is out there because I you know, I understand both

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Speaker 2: those guys are young, but this is what you're six

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Speaker 2: of that of that duo, I mean eighteen, nineteen, twenty

476
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Speaker 2: one two. Yeah, this is your six because Jason Tatum

477
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Speaker 2: was drafted in the twenty seventeen drafts. So you're talking

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Speaker 2: about six years with this group, and I know they're

479
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Speaker 2: just now entering their primes. But I'm with you, is

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Speaker 2: there's something not only from a style of play, but

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Speaker 2: I do still think there's like a mental toughness component

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Speaker 2: to them, which I understand they want a game seven

483
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Speaker 2: all that stuff. So that's my only thought, Jason, is

484
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Speaker 2: you gotta see what's out there. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: you have to blow it up. I think there are

486
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Speaker 2: worse things you can do than run it back, but

487
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Speaker 2: I think you do have to be smart about what

488
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Speaker 2: options are potentially out there, and is there some asset

489
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Speaker 2: for Jalen Brown that could potentially make you better or

490
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Speaker 2: at the very least different, interesting, etc.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's it.

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Speaker 4: I just think that to me, it just feels like

493
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Speaker 4: this is about the ceiling for this team.

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Speaker 3: They can be very.

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Speaker 4: Boring, like it's just to watch, like you know they're

496
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Speaker 4: going to be closed, But do you really see them

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Speaker 4: winning with this corps at this stage. I think you

498
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Speaker 4: could compare this era, even though they've had a lot

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Speaker 4: of success. You could compare this era of the Celtics

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Speaker 4: to the Bills. You could compare this era of the

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Speaker 4: Celtics to maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers over the last like

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Speaker 4: seven eight years, where you knew they had some talent,

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Speaker 4: but you also never really thought that's a super Bowl contender,

504
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Speaker 4: but you respected them. The difference in those two organizations

505
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Speaker 4: and the Celtics is they aren't going through coaches. You

506
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Speaker 4: just had two first year guys in a row for

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Speaker 4: this team, which is not good for a nucleus of

508
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Speaker 4: any team to have that kind of turnover at the

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Speaker 4: head coaching position over and over again. And maybe that's it.

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Speaker 4: It's just well, if we still kind of like what

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Speaker 4: Mozilla was doing, we need to give him a little

512
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Speaker 4: bit more here. We need to give them a little

513
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Speaker 4: little bit more room, give him another year with this

514
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Speaker 4: group as opposed to being the Cleveland Browns and Jetising

515
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Speaker 4: our coach every year until we find Kevin Stefanski, and

516
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Speaker 4: we'll see how long he's able to last there. But

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Speaker 4: I think there's something about maybe not wanting to be

518
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Speaker 4: too rash because a lot of the recent history of

519
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Speaker 4: the Celtics has proven that they've made moves too quickly.

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Speaker 2: Don't disagree with any of that, and I do think

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Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see. It is a long offseason.

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Speaker 2: Obviously the free agency period could lead to some interesting scenarios,

523
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Speaker 2: and obviously that Jalen Brown extension is something to watch

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Speaker 2: but will either ultimately end up mattering. We'll discuss that

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Speaker 2: next before we do a toss it over the news

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Speaker 2: desk steep saga. What's track?

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Speaker 7: Hello, gentlemen. A couple of superb plays Hello. In sports

535
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Speaker 7: already tonight we had the Aaron Judge catch crashing through

536
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Speaker 7: the bullpen gate in right field at Dodgers Stadium. Yankees

537
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 7: beat LA six to three. That was the Fox TV

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Speaker 7: game tonight for most of the country. And then in

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Speaker 7: the opener of the Stanley Cup Final at one Seed Vegas,

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Speaker 7: the Golden Knight's goalie Aiden Hill with a highlight reel save.

541
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Speaker 7: Earlier in this game tonight, he was beaten, reached across

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Speaker 7: the Smiths crease and somehow got the blade of the

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Speaker 7: stick down in front of the shot. It got the

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Speaker 7: save early second period to keep the score tied. At

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Speaker 7: the time, hockey writers are quickly noting that it was

546
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Speaker 7: the same end of the ice also in Vegas in

547
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Speaker 7: a finals game where Washington's goalie made a very similar

548
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Speaker 7: save in that series. This is Stanley Cup Final Game

549
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Speaker 7: one in Vegas, and the score tonight is tied two

550
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Speaker 7: to two, with the Florida Panthers visiting a wildcard team,

551
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Speaker 7: so opening on the road again another eight seed from Miami.

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Speaker 7: Like the heat this game, with about fifteen minutes to

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Speaker 7: go in regulation, Panthers had retied the game with a

554
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Speaker 7: goal in the final seconds of the second period. Game

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Speaker 7: two of the series Monday night. NBA Finals Game two

556
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Speaker 7: is Sunday evening. Denver beat Miami in the series opener.

557
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Speaker 7: Nuggets are undefeated at home in this postseason, nine to zero.

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Speaker 7: Caleb Martin and Miami mispracticed today due to illness. Heat

559
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Speaker 7: guard Tyler Hero is likely a game time decision, trying

560
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Speaker 7: to come back from surgery in April on a broken hand.

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Speaker 7: The Brooklyn Nets are hiring Kevin Ali as an assistant.

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Speaker 7: Phoenix will reportedly keep top assistant Kevin Young. At the

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Speaker 7: French Open, Coco Golf won her third round match, as

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Speaker 7: did number one egas Fiontek. She advanced easily. The Buffalo

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Speaker 7: Bills gave defensive tackle Ed Oliver a four year extension

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Speaker 7: worth forty five million dollars guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: Rory McElroy is.

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Speaker 7: Tied for the lead at the Memorial and FS one

569
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Speaker 7: has NASCAR this weekend, the Infinity Race tonight with Cole Custer.

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Speaker 7: They had the Trucks Race today. They've got the three

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Speaker 7: hundred from Illinois tomorrow at three point thirty pm Eastern time.

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Speaker 7: We've got three late games in Major League Baseball Underway

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Speaker 7: Orioles at Giants scoreless after two. We've got the Padres

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Speaker 7: Cubs game on FS one right now, scoreless, top of

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Speaker 7: the second. You are going to the bottom of the

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Speaker 7: second as I speak you. Darvish has just retired the

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Speaker 7: Cubs again. Drew Smiley, five and two, is the cub

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Speaker 7: starting pitcher, and at Arizona, the Diamondbacks, who've won six

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Speaker 7: in a row, could be alone in first place in

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Speaker 7: the NL West. After tonight they're hosting the Brave scoreless

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Speaker 7: top of the second, Atlantis starter Spencer Streider, who's five

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Speaker 7: and two. The Dodgers were tied for first coming into tonight,

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Speaker 7: but then got that home loss to the Yankees, where

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Speaker 7: New York hit four home runs six ' to three

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Speaker 7: to the final. Aaron Judge with his nineteenth homer. Houston

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Speaker 7: and Toronto with wins, and Miami beat Oakland twelve to one.

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Speaker 7: The a's record falls to twelve and forty eight so far.

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Speaker 7: Luis a Riaz of the Marlins went five for five

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Speaker 7: five RBIs He's batting three to ninety. Pittsburgh won its

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Speaker 7: fourth in a row. Texas won again and Philadelphia one

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Speaker 7: to end a five game losing streak. Boston and Tampa

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Speaker 7: Bay split a double header. They had rain yesterday and

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Speaker 7: no game on Friday, already had a double header scheduled

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Speaker 7: for today. Chance of rain again tomorrow in Boston. The

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Speaker 7: game they lost from last night will be made up

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Speaker 7: on Monday. And a final note on the Aaron Judge Homer.

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Speaker 7: It got there, it got out of there quickly. A

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Speaker 7: rocket over the low wall down the left field line

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Speaker 7: at Dodger Stadium tonight. Exit velocity was near one hundred

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Speaker 7: and fourteen miles an hour off the bat. He's had

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Speaker 7: near fifty career home runs with that kind of exit velocity.

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Speaker 7: Number two in the stat cast era of the past decade.

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Speaker 7: To Guencarlo Stanton, who was activated for this series.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Very much, Taurus. Can I ask you in dissaga question, sure,

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Speaker 4: has Arnie submitted his resignation yet?

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Speaker 2: He's actually working with Arnie tomorrow, So I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 2: him what was the listen to you, what was the

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Speaker 2: exact quote that I need to peer pressure him about?

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Speaker 3: Well, talk about two games?

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Speaker 4: He was he was he was willing to give up

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Speaker 4: his job if Miami took Boston or that's only the

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Speaker 4: game six, much less if they won. He said he

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Speaker 4: would quit his job if the Miami Heat defeated either

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Speaker 4: Boston or Philadelphia, and last I checked, it's Miami that's

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Speaker 4: playing in the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to see if somebody's gonna back

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Speaker 3: up his word.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's possible that the bosses don't still

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Speaker 2: know that he's working here, Like they just thought.

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Speaker 4: He's Milton from office Space.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like they just thought, oh, who does Plank work with?

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Speaker 3: Again?

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Speaker 2: I can't even you know whatever you know, Plank Plank.

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Speaker 2: Plank's been hosting solo for a while.

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Speaker 7: I would agree with you, but he's so loud. I

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Speaker 7: think it's just impossible to ignore.

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Speaker 2: And his takes are so mediocre that I'm sure the

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Speaker 2: Boston ultimately hear from them. I mean, okay, his his

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Speaker 2: takes are so unique. Maybe maybe they're not all media.

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Speaker 7: It's Tomorrow night, in the regular Sunday night slot you're

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Speaker 7: on with Arnie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Oklahoma softball never loses, so they're probably

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Speaker 2: gonna be they have some something.

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Speaker 7: He won so much. They don't play till Monday morning,

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Speaker 7: but it is early morning.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if that's I don't know how the schedule broke.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure it is, and it's not in Norman, and

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Speaker 7: it's Oklahoma City hosts the tournaments.

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Speaker 2: I thought I think maybe they thought that Plank might

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Speaker 2: have a game, So whatever, I don't know. I'm in

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Speaker 2: with Arnie, but I will peer pressure him into But.

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Speaker 7: You're right on the always winning. We do bring that

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Speaker 7: up with Arnie because they've set the NCAA record Oklahoma softball.

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Speaker 7: It's fifty straight wins, now breaking Arizona's record.

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Speaker 2: Real, you know you didn't mention first of all, we

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Speaker 2: got all sorts of college baseball. Arizona is losing, I believe,

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Speaker 2: in the least surprising news ever in this time slot.

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Speaker 2: They're playing Santa Clara. I think they're losing. The reason

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Speaker 2: I'm paying attention to this college baseball.

651
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Speaker 7: Didn't you u Kon win today?

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Speaker 2: Yukon won? How about this? They have to play Florida

653
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: in Gainesville in an elimination game tomorrow. But this Clemson

654
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: Tennessee game is in the wacky fourteenth inning. By the way,

655
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Speaker 2: do you guys have a a.

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Speaker 7: Arizona is getting shut out three nothing by Santa Clara

657
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Speaker 7: bottom of the fifth.

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Speaker 4: It's a traditional three to oh, Like, what the Celtics

659
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Speaker 4: were down against the Miami Heat.

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Speaker 7: It's the Steve Nash thing all over again, Santa Clara

661
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Speaker 7: beating areas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, that was what I thought of when I

663
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Speaker 2: saw that matchup. Do you guys have a guilty pleasure sport?

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Speaker 2: Because I love college baseball and I think, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I only love it watching this tournament when there's a

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Speaker 2: million games on, But I think I love it because

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Speaker 2: it's like the only sport I can kind of have

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Speaker 2: on that I don't have to have like a take

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Speaker 2: on and nobody's gonna ask me about. But I enjoy

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00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: the heck out of this tournament every year. And I

671
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Speaker 2: was watching this Clemson Tennessee game earlier today, which has

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Speaker 2: been a really fun.

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Speaker 7: Game, still going in the fourteenth falls apparently have just

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Speaker 7: taken the lead. I would put on the list the

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Speaker 7: Women's World Cup that Fox is gonna have this summer.

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Speaker 7: I'll be watching most every game there.

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Speaker 3: Jason, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean I enjoy college baseball when it gets to

679
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Speaker 4: the tournament as well. I don't watch a regular season

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Speaker 4: college baseball too awful much.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I played tennis.

682
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Speaker 4: I lettered in tennis at high school, so I still

683
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Speaker 4: watch a lot of tennis as well, And some people

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Speaker 4: would say golf, but I mean golf. I mean somebody

685
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Speaker 4: would Some people would tell me I couldn't say golf.

686
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Speaker 4: I should say yeah, because golf is a little bit

687
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Speaker 4: too mainstream.

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Speaker 3: But I absolutely love golf.

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Speaker 7: You know, things have been going very well for South

690
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Speaker 7: Florida sports these days. Yeah, you mentioned the Miami Heat

691
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Speaker 7: into the NBA Finals, but I think one of.

692
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Speaker 2: You already called it.

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Speaker 7: And you've got the Florida Panthers who now have fallen

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Speaker 7: behind in the Stanley Cup opener at Vegas tonight, and

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Speaker 7: college baseball it's a top ten team that they have

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Speaker 7: with the Miami Hurricanes and they are losing to Texas

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Speaker 7: late tonight.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I'll tell you, I know it's not a

699
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: South Florida thing, but that Florida Gators team that lost today,

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Speaker 2: like that, that's the team they're kind of the I'm

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00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: not being facetious about it, but like Yukon basketball, like

702
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Speaker 2: that was the team that they weren't one seed, but

703
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: people said they could win it. Florida, I think was

704
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: the second or third seed in the tournament. Wake Force

705
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Speaker 2: is the top overall seed, but that was like all

706
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Speaker 2: the experts picked to win it was Florida and they

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Speaker 2: lost today, so they'll be in an elimination game tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I know that's not South Florida, but still.

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Speaker 7: Yeh, double elimination.

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Speaker 2: Love these tournaments absolutely. I'll tell you what. This is

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Speaker 2: what we'll do. We'll come back and we will continue

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Speaker 2: the conversation about the coaching stuff in the NBA, because

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Speaker 2: want to get Jason's opinion on Nick Nurse to the

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia seventy six ers. The Suns made a splashy hire

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Speaker 2: by the way, shout out Manti Williams, who is now

716
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Speaker 2: the highest paid coach. They made it higher. I mean, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, and it's an interesting conversation about that.

718
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Speaker 3: Yes it is, and we'll discuss it next.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Ado.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio er Torres Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tire Raq dot com studios, keeping

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Speaker 2: the updated on the hockey game in Vegas. Golden Knights

727
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: up three to two, about eight minutes left in the

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Speaker 2: third period against the Florida Panthers, Game one of the

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Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Finals. De Saga will have you an update

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Speaker 2: on that, a more extended update at the top of

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Speaker 2: the hour. But Jason, I do want to get back

732
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Speaker 2: to the NBA and so interesting. You know, we don't

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Speaker 2: really talk like coaching carousel like we talked coaching carousel

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Speaker 2: with the NFL and college football. I don't remember like

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Speaker 2: coaching carousel being a topic like that we would normally

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Speaker 2: talk about this time of year. But with the the

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Speaker 2: Bucks obviously firing a head coach, the Phoenix Suns firing

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Speaker 2: Manti Williams, the Philadelphia seventy six Ers firing Doc Rivers,

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Speaker 2: there is a lot of movement with high profile teams

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Speaker 2: and high profile coaches. It seems as though you have

741
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Speaker 2: a lot on Frank Vogel, so I'll give you the

742
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: floor on that one. Frank Vogel recently named the head

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Speaker 2: coach of the Phoenix Suns. It sounds as though you

744
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: are not very impressed.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's not that I don't know that,

746
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: it's that I'm not impressed. Frank Vogel is a good

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00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 4: basketball coach. He was very good in Indiana he never

748
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 4: was going to get much of anything other than being

749
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 4: talked about for the wrong reasons as long as he

750
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 4: is with Lebron James for the most part. But I'm

751
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Speaker 4: not saying he's not a good coach. I'm just saying,

752
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: all right, so you move on for Monti Williams Coach

753
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 4: of the Year. It's won a lot of games for

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Speaker 4: them over the last few seasons, and you bring in

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00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 4: Frank Vogel, Like it just seems like kind of a

756
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: lateral move for your franchise. It's not like Greg Popovich

757
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: came available. It's not like Spoilster somehow decided he wanted

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Speaker 4: out in Miami and he was open. I mean, is

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Speaker 4: Frank Vogel a name that excites you. I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: there's anything wrong with it necessary, but do you think

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Speaker 4: that that is the magic Elickster that's missing? You were

762
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 4: a coach away, so you get rid of Manty and

763
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: it's Frank Vogel that's coming in. Like that's my point.

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Speaker 4: It's not that he's a bad coach, it's that it's

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Speaker 4: kind of it's not even that it's underwhelming, it's just whelming.

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Speaker 4: Like it's just you moved from one guy to the next.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think either one of them necessarily is

768
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Speaker 4: the key, Like it's eventually your players have to actually

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00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: do what they're supposed to do. I don't, and I

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Speaker 4: think that MONI maybe he did make some mistakes in

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Speaker 4: that series, but he also was dealing with guys that

772
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 4: are injured and guys that hadn't had a long chance

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Speaker 4: to play together because of when they were acquired and

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Speaker 4: all this other stuff. There were a lot of things

775
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 4: that you could have looked at. I just feel like,

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Speaker 4: if you were gonna end up with Frank Vogel, you

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00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 4: maybe could have been a little bit more patient with money.

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Speaker 2: So I don't disagree with that. And it's funny because

779
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: your takeaway is, you know, it's kind of like, you know,

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00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: part of it was on just the roster composition and

781
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: all that, because that's kind of how I feel about

782
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: the the Philadelphia seventy six was hiring Nick Nurse is like,

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00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: you know, I was actually on air here on Fox

784
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Memorial Day when that news broke, and of

785
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: course when that happens, like you have to have a take,

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00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: you have to have an opinion, and I'm like, well, respectfully,

787
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: like I don't it's kind of what you were just

788
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: saying only with the Sons, but I'm talking about it

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00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: with the seventy six ers. It's like it just feels

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Speaker 2: like you're kind of moving around the deck chairs. Is

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Speaker 2: I don't really care about if it's Doc Rivers, Nick

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Speaker 2: Nurse whomever, if Joe l embiid and assuming you get

793
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Speaker 2: even get back James Harden, if those guys aren't better

794
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: when it matters, I don't know that it really matters

795
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: all that much. And so maybe it's a conversation that's

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Speaker 2: applicable to both these sons and the Philadelphia seventy six ers,

797
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: because the Sons again, is Chris Paul gonna be healthy?

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00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: Are you going to be able to find other pieces

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Speaker 2: to compliment Devin Booker and Kevin Durant. It's a great point,

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00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: is like, is it really Monty Williams's fault that you

801
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 2: traded literally every expendable piece except for Devin Booker, DeAndre

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00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: and Chris Paul to get Kevin Durant and that he

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00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: had no depth. I don't think it's the coach's fault.

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00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: There was nothing left to you know, nothing left for

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Speaker 2: him to do. And I think it's kind of the

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00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: same for me with Philly is it's just hard for

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Speaker 2: me to feel like a coaching change matters because your

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00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: best players aren't playing their best in the biggest moments.

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00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, by the way, the Vegas Golden Knights

810
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: have scored again to go up four to two with

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Speaker 2: about five five point thirty left in this third period,

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Speaker 2: about five twenty excuse me left in the third period,

813
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: so Vegas making plays in the clutch. But it goes

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00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: back to what I was just saying about these games,

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Speaker 2: Jason is like, it's just hard for me to get

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00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: excited about Nick Nurse or even Frank Vogel if the

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00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: fundamental issues with the organization aren't changed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's right.

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Speaker 4: I think all right, So let's just pretend that Nick

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Speaker 4: Nurse is the one that was coaching during this past

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Speaker 4: postseason and it wasn't Doc Rivers, because I don't think

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Speaker 4: Doc Rivers lost that game. I think James Harden hit

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00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: a wall, if I mean, and it's not unexpected at

824
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Speaker 4: his age. And Joel EMBII did what he's kind of

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00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 4: done in the playoffs, which is be a little bit

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Speaker 4: wishy washy when it comes to the numbers. And then

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Speaker 4: in Phoenix if Frank Vote, if Frank Vogel had been

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Speaker 4: the coach, do you think we would have had a

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Speaker 4: different result against Denver? I don't. And once you make

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00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: a movie, you got to hire somebody, and I don't know,

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Speaker 4: because you know, you look at who the Bucks hired, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Adrian Griffin.

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Speaker 4: I don't know whether or not that's gonna work because

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Speaker 4: I don't know anything about it. I don't know how

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Speaker 4: I feel about first time head coaches against some redreads

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Speaker 4: that have had some success. I guess I'm just saying

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Speaker 4: you're moving on from coaches of the year in some

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Speaker 4: of these cases, and you're bringing in people that aren't, like,

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Speaker 4: demonstrably better, and it's just kind of like, all right,

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Speaker 4: I guess you just want a new face in the room.

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00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 4: When it comes to Nurse, Nurse proved he can win

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00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: the championship when he's got Kawhi Leonard and when he

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00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 4: gets to Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson injury in the

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00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: NBA Finals, and he actually established a brand and started

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Speaker 4: wearing his own n N gear during that finals run.

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Speaker 4: So I was always impressed with that. I like Nick Nurse.

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00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: I think coach. I mean, we saw it after the

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00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 4: fact with Siakam and Van Vliet and that crew. But

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Speaker 4: do I think that he's to take them over the top.

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Speaker 4: I mean, not if it's those guys, because I've already

851
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: said a hard and led team's not gonna win a

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00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 4: championship in my opinion, and Embiid is just too likely

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Speaker 4: to be hurt for my taste.

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Speaker 2: I agree on both. I just it's hard for me

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Speaker 2: to get excited about either. But I think it again

856
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: fundamentally comes back down to how the rosters are built,

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Speaker 2: and it sets up for a very interesting offseason because

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Speaker 2: I think it's easy to blame a coach. I think

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00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: it's much harder to fix the problems to plague both teams.

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00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: Speaking of problems coming up, we will discuss John Morant

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Speaker 2: Adam Silver Read a lot to say we react next.

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Speaker 2: we Jason and I want to welcome in are newest

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Speaker 2: affiliate in Peoria, Illinois, Peoria Sports Radio one oh one

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Speaker 2: point one. Welcome them to the Fox Sports Radio family.

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Speaker 2: There are Chicago White Sox Radio network affiliate and program

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Speaker 2: director Scott Hecke Thom dropped another network to make the

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Speaker 2: flip to Fox Sports a big win for them. So

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Speaker 2: welcome to Fox Sports Radio and the Fox Sports Radio family,

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Speaker 2: Peoria Sports Radio one oh one point one. Jason, Uh,

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Speaker 2: interesting because obviously, look, you know, Game one of the

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals happens the other night, and you know, it

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Speaker 2: was interesting, It was intriguing. It led to a result

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Speaker 2: that many, including the two of us, predicted. But the

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Speaker 2: more interesting thing that came out of Thursday night, more

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Speaker 2: than the game itself, because the game didn't end up

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Speaker 2: being very interesting, was actually something that Adam Silver said

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Speaker 2: before the game. So the story, of course, that we've

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Speaker 2: all been kind of following U is the unfortunate story

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Speaker 2: involving John Moran. We know the particular by now, but

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Speaker 2: the latest twist was about two two and a half

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Speaker 2: three weeks ago, was caught on a friends Instagram live

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Speaker 2: brandishing a gun. This, of course after he did the

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Speaker 2: same thing on his own social media accounts about it

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Speaker 2: was early March, was suspended for eight games, claims that

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Speaker 2: he went to therapy, all that good stuff. So we've

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Speaker 2: been kind of waiting, kind of trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: what was going on with his situation. Is a punishment

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Speaker 2: coming down for John Morant. Here's what Adam Silver had

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Speaker 2: to say before Game.

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Speaker 8: One in terms of the timing. We've uncovered a fair

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Speaker 8: amount of additional information. I think since I was still

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Speaker 8: asked about the situation, I would say we probably could

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Speaker 8: have brought it to a head now, but we made

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Speaker 8: the decision, and I believe the Players Association agrees with

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Speaker 8: us that it would be unfair to these players and

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Speaker 8: these teams in the middle of the series to announce

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Speaker 8: the results of that investigation, and given that we're, of

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Speaker 8: course in the offseason. He has now been suspended by

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Speaker 8: the Memphis Grizzlies indefinitely.

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Speaker 2: And that was Adam Silver before Game one. Thank you

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Speaker 2: to the guys in the back forgetting that for us. Jason, listen,

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Speaker 2: first of all, let me do the whole thing so

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Speaker 2: that it's clear we understand that based on the information

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Speaker 2: right now, John Morant has not broken a law. We

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Speaker 2: understand that, at least the most recent situation. It's during

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Speaker 2: the off season, as Adam Silver said, didn't even necessarily

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Speaker 2: break the NBA's Code of conduct, So that has to

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Speaker 2: be said. But this is the second incident which he's

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Speaker 2: caught on social media with a gun. The first one,

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Speaker 2: of course, was during a team trip, which did break

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Speaker 2: the NBA's Code of conduct. You go through the list

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Speaker 2: we know about the accusations at a mall, I believe

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Speaker 2: it's in the Virginia area, and certainly the situation at

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Speaker 2: his house where he is alleged to have assaulted someone.

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Speaker 2: So I want to give that all as a caveat

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Speaker 2: to say it's bad. There's just a lot of bad,

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Speaker 2: negative press around him. We're going to find out again

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Speaker 2: if he's broken any actual laws an the NBA Code

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Speaker 2: of Conduct. But for Adam Silver to then come out

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Speaker 2: on the night of Game one and acknowledge we're doing

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Speaker 2: an investigation and we have found even more, Jason, I

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Speaker 2: know it's a little unfair on our part to speculate,

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Speaker 2: but Adam Silver doesn't. But Adam Silver said it so

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Speaker 2: to a degree we have to. I I'm obviously intrigued,

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Speaker 2: but I'm just fascinated by what's going to be uncovered

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Speaker 2: and then ultimately what happens to John Morant from there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean what he said is right, Like, you

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Speaker 4: don't want to take away from the finals with something,

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Speaker 4: especially if it's going to be really big time news

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Speaker 4: about you know, one of the guys that you were

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Speaker 4: hoping was going to be the face of your league

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Speaker 4: going forward. But of course, as soon as he says it,

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Speaker 4: it becomes a story of its own. And maybe he

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Speaker 4: couldn't help but say this, But you almost wish you

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Speaker 4: don't say anything until the fine are over and then

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Speaker 4: you can come out and say this. But you're right,

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Speaker 4: like the fact that they've investigated and they found a

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Speaker 4: good bit more, and the question is, well, what did

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Speaker 4: they find?

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Speaker 3: Is it bad for jobs? It good for jaw? Well

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Speaker 3: it seems bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But I guess maybe I'm trying to feel optimistic

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Speaker 4: and just say, well, maybe they've found out that the

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Speaker 4: timeline on this thing, maybe this wasn't separate, or maybe

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Speaker 4: this was in the past, or you know, not trying

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Speaker 4: to get the benefit of the doubt, but it's just

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Speaker 4: I want to believe that it's not worse.

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Speaker 3: Than we've already seen.

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Speaker 4: We talked about he said, what's the appropriate punishment and

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Speaker 4: all this kind of stuff. Well, we didn't find out

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Speaker 4: what we find out here. But even before we knew

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Speaker 4: there was more, I said all Star break. I said

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Speaker 4: he should come back after the All Star break, and

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Speaker 4: it should actually be kind of a build up to it,

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Speaker 4: like All Star weekend. This is the last weekend before

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Speaker 4: John comes back. Jaw's worked really hard. Job's coming back

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Speaker 4: as a new guy. He's had time away from the game,

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Speaker 4: he's gone through this rehabilitation process, he's gone through our

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Speaker 4: disciplinary process whatever like that. But you look at some

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Speaker 4: of the other things that Adam Silver said. He's talking

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Speaker 4: about the CBA, and you know, players agree not to

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Speaker 4: do anything. It's a quote not to do anything materially

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Speaker 4: detrimental or materially prejudicial to the best interests of their

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Speaker 4: team of the NBA. That's the thing, Like he said

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Speaker 4: that this discipline's going to be about the values of

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Speaker 4: the league. It's not going to be about a crime.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a private organization standard is what

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Speaker 4: he said. That is why, and I agree with them

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Speaker 4: that you don't have to say anything today because he's

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Speaker 4: already been suspended in definitely he's not playing basketball right

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Speaker 4: now anyway, because they're done until the fall in Memphis.

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Speaker 4: So this wasn't a media that you had to do this.

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Speaker 4: They're not dragging their heels to try and protect John Moran.

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Speaker 4: I understand what they're doing here. I actually think they

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Speaker 4: might actually get this right after getting it woefully wrong,

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Speaker 4: giving him too much credit for like a three day

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Speaker 4: rehab stent and then he comes back and we have

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Speaker 4: all these others after the fact, but to me, before

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Speaker 4: we found out there was other information. And we'll see

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Speaker 4: just how much more there is here in a week

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Speaker 4: or two. But I just don't think you can let

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Speaker 4: that guy miss or play until the back half of

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Speaker 4: the season. I think you can do something where it

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Speaker 4: looks like, you know, we are creating the possibility for

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Speaker 4: a great redemption story for you Jah, and then you know,

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Speaker 4: offer him the opportunity to come back and really, hey,

993
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Speaker 4: you know, I've actually stepped aside. I've realized I was

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Speaker 4: going down the wrong pathway. Give him every opportunity to

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Speaker 4: become a hero, like somebody that has really overcome something

996
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Speaker 4: a big time challenge and a big time setback that

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Speaker 4: most didn't see coming when he entered the NBA. I

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Speaker 4: think if they come out and say they say he

999
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Speaker 4: misses the first ten games of the season, they're gonna

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Speaker 4: get laughed out of out of the public arena, Like

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Speaker 4: at this point, you can't do that, Like at this point,

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Speaker 4: it's got to be something where it is no one

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Speaker 4: in this league ever does anything like this again.

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Speaker 2: So all I would really add to that is, I think,

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Speaker 2: even without knowing what potential new information is out there,

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Speaker 2: I think I'm comfortable saying what you said. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, the hockey game has gone final. Vegas beats

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Speaker 2: Florida five to two in Game one of the Stanley

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Speaker 2: Cup Finals. Vegas up one nothing after a five to

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Speaker 2: two win in Game one to JA. I think there's

1011
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Speaker 2: probably a lot of people sitting there driving around listening

1012
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Speaker 2: to us, saying, oh, you know, how can you speculate

1013
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Speaker 2: on this and how can you do that and how

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Speaker 2: can you say this without knowing what has been uncovered

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Speaker 2: and all that, to which I would say, listen, this

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Speaker 2: is the second incident that we know about that was

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Speaker 2: on social media. Adam Silver says he has found more.

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Speaker 2: And then there are two legal matters that are currently

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Speaker 2: being investigated. And so I have no problem with what

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Speaker 2: you said, Jason, for a few reasons. Is because one,

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Speaker 2: you do have to look out for the overall health

1022
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Speaker 2: of the entire league. I think it's four hundred and

1023
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Speaker 2: fifty players, thirty players per team, fifteen players. You know,

1024
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Speaker 2: four hundred forty nine guys have figured out how to

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Speaker 2: at minimum not show up on everybody's social media with guns.

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Speaker 2: And you know this isn't a gun conversation. I'm not

1027
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Speaker 2: saying there's never a circumstance where anyone should ever have

1028
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Speaker 2: a gun. Whatever the point I'm trying to make, we

1029
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Speaker 2: know you can't be on social media like like, there

1030
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Speaker 2: are just four hundred and forty nine guys that at

1031
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Speaker 2: least on this one particular thing have it figured out,

1032
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Speaker 2: and they need to be rewarded for that. But I

1033
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Speaker 2: think the other thing is, and this is gonna sound

1034
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Speaker 2: kind of weird, encounterintuitive, but for Jaw's own good, I

1035
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Speaker 2: think you have to suspend him for a significant amount

1036
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Speaker 2: of time. It's not a punishment. It is a like, dude,

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Speaker 2: figure it out, because this thing, and it's a cliche,

1038
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Speaker 2: but it's true. It's gonna end bad in some sort

1039
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Speaker 2: of way. You're either gonna hurt yourself, You're gonna hurt

1040
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Speaker 2: somebody near you, or somebody's gonna hurt you. Because in listen,

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Speaker 2: am I the perfect person to have this conversation? No,

1042
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Speaker 2: but like I grew up in a great neighborhood. Like,

1043
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Speaker 2: but you start doing that in the wrong neighborhood, in

1044
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Speaker 2: front of the wrong people at the wrong time, you're

1045
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Speaker 2: gonna get yourself in trouble because there's a lot of

1046
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Speaker 2: people that are going to feel the need for self

1047
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Speaker 2: defense or whatever, like like, like you understand the path

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Speaker 2: that I'm going down with this conversation, Jason, is You're

1049
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Speaker 2: either gonna hurt yourself, You're gonna hurt someone around you,

1050
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Speaker 2: or somebody is going to see you try to look

1051
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Speaker 2: cool for social media, take it the wrong way and

1052
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Speaker 2: hurt you. And so that's why I have no problem

1053
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Speaker 2: with with anything short of like a year, Like I

1054
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Speaker 2: don't think you should be suspended for all of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty twenty four. But if it's thirty games,

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Speaker 2: if it's fifty games, if it's the All Star Break,

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Speaker 2: if it's whatever, it's not just a pun. It has

1058
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Speaker 2: to be a wake up call that something bad is

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Speaker 2: going to happen if you are not smarter in this situation.

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Speaker 4: Jeez, yeah, I look, I think that's well said.

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Speaker 3: I would add this.

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Speaker 4: I would add a third, and that would be if

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Speaker 4: I'm Adam Silver, I need everyone to understand that my

1064
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Speaker 4: league's authority actually exists, because if you look at the

1065
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Speaker 4: CBA and you look at how the players are able

1066
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Speaker 4: to manipulate get where they want, like, they have so

1067
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Speaker 4: much more freedom to do so many more things than

1068
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Speaker 4: you see. For example, in the NFL, they run the

1069
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Speaker 4: league in many ways and you get it, they're the

1070
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Speaker 4: big stars and all of this. But this NBA has

1071
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Speaker 4: not this. And I always felt like the David Stern

1072
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Speaker 4: NBA was different. I felt like David Stern there was

1073
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Speaker 4: a level of gravitas to David Stern where it's just like,

1074
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Speaker 4: all right, the league. When I hear something about the

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Speaker 4: league office, take note, Adam Silver, and just the enforcement

1076
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Speaker 4: mechanisms of the NBA seem fictitious to me. And so

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Speaker 4: when you saw what happened with Jah the first time,

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00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 4: and the way that they adjudicated it and got them back,

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00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 4: on the floor as soon as possible. That struck me

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00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 4: as very indicative of the way the NBA feels like

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Speaker 4: it's run.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: You cannot continue to give off this impression that the

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00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 4: National Basketball Association and Adam Silver's office and all your

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00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: enforcement mechanisms, all your rules and regulations, your standards of conduct,

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00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 4: or just the fact that you have teeth, like that's

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00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 4: got to be a thing, like we have to believe

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Speaker 4: that there is something serious in that office. And if

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00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 4: you come back with something half hearted this time, in

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Speaker 4: addition to your excellent point and the other point that

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Speaker 4: we've made about this situation, the league just looks weak,

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00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 4: It looks toothless, It looks like something that you should

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00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 4: never take seriously. And if I think that, what are

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00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: the players in the league that have leverage and money

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00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 4: and power and all that, what do they think in

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00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 4: that scenario? That's that's the whole deal about the good

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00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 4: of the league and the good of John Morant and

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00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: all of this. The worst thing that you could do

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00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 4: for somebody in need is ignore them. The second worst

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00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 4: thing that you can do for somebody in need is

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00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 4: subsidize them. And that can be taken in a myriad

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00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 4: of different ways. Certainly, yeah, you can buy something for

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00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 4: somebody who's already on the wrong pathway or whatever, but

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00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 4: you can also kind of it's the whole I'm just

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00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 4: kind of tapping your wrist thing like, no, like the

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00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: NBA needs to actually lay the hammer down and take

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Speaker 4: control of its league.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree on anything. And again, I think, you know,

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00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: I tell my wife this all the time, but but

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00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: you know, tough love is still love, and I think there, yeah,

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00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: there has to be some tough love and it's not again,

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00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: and I know I just said it, so I'm not gonna,

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00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: you know, belabor the point. But it's not just about punishment.

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00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 2: It's about awareness. It's about you know, like like it's

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00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: about making John Morant aware that, like, the behavior isn't acceptable.

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00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: But it's also about like, there could be much more

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00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: consequences than you missing a few games or you missing

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00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: a few paychecks. So it'll be curious to see. I mean, obviously,

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00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals are going to wrap up here in

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Speaker 2: the next you know, ten weeks to ten weeks, ten

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00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: days to two weeks, and so we should it sounds

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00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: like by the middle of June get some sort of

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Speaker 2: resolution on this job Morant situation, and we'll continue to

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Speaker 2: cover it, and obviously it goes without saying, it'll be

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Speaker 2: fascinating to see if we find out what the new

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Speaker 2: information is and certainly what the suspension is. Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: much much more. Mark Medina joins us next. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot to unpack with him. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torres, Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: go straight to the phones, and we are joined by

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Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Medina. Of course,

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00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 2: you can follow Mark on Twitter at March Underscore Medina. Mark.

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00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: First of all, how you enjoying the Saturday night off?

1146
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: This is probably like your first Saturday off in like

1147
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: eight months. Probably what are you doing?

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Speaker 7: Where are you at hey?

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Speaker 9: I mean, look, I did some TV work earlier this apteron,

1150
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 9: so I got to have dinner sometime. But you know what,

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00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 9: I'm always here.

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00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 4: To be busy, so happy to talk groups any time

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00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 4: with it fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, we're gonna get to game one in a minute.

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00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: Jason and I though, right before we brought you on,

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00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 2: we were actually talking about Adam Silver's quotes about John Morant,

1157
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: not speculating. He said, flat out, you know, our investigation

1158
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: has uncovered even more. Now to Jason's point, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think the exact quote was the investigation has uncovered

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Speaker 2: new information. So to Jason's point, in theory it could

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Speaker 2: be good, I don't know that it is, and I'm

1162
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: not asking to speculate on what it might be. But

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Speaker 2: what was just your overall takeaway about Adam Silver's comments,

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00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: Because obviously it sounds as though we are getting a

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Speaker 2: suspension or some kind of punishment here very soon.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, what I took, and I don't think there's a speculation,

1167
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 9: but I think that Adam Silver was laying the groundwork

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00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 9: to brace for the fact that whatever punishment John Morant's

1169
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 9: perceives this go round, it's going to be significantly more

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Speaker 9: severe than that eight games mention that he received for

1171
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 9: his post, you know, his first sin of the Instagram

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00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 9: Live video charades, and that was an eight game suspension,

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00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 9: and it was also kind of retroactive because he had

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00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 9: already missed games before the formal punishment. But that's what

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Speaker 9: I think. Now, does that mean season ending suspension? Who knows,

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Speaker 9: but I am bracing that's going to be a significant

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Speaker 9: chunk of games. And the reason why he was evasive

1178
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 9: about the exact details is that part of the arrangement

1179
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 9: with the league and the NBA players Union is that

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00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 9: they didn't want this specific story to overshadow everything going

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00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 9: on with the NBA Finals, with the you know, with

1182
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 9: the Nuggets and the Miami Heat, which is understandable, but

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Speaker 9: if that was the leaning they wanted to follow through,

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Speaker 9: I was surprised that Adam at least acknowledge, Hey, we

1185
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 9: found new things. He could have easily just said, hey,

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00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 9: we're we're still putting everything together. We take it seriously, YadA, YadA, YadA,

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Speaker 9: and by kind of going down the middle, clearly we're

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00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 9: talking about it and wondering what exactly the suspension or

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00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 9: punishment will be. But yeah, I definitely think it's more significant.

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Speaker 4: See, I've kind of I don't know if I've advocated,

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00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 4: but I've lobbied and kind of I feel like mark

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Speaker 4: All Star break is what I'm looking at for Job.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: That may be more than it's gonna be, but that's

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Speaker 4: what I would do to send the right message and

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00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 4: give an opportunity for All Star Weekend to be Hey,

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Speaker 4: Joss coming back for the second half of the season.

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Speaker 4: He's gone through a long process. You have this chance

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Speaker 4: to create this redemption story for Job that we would

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Speaker 4: all get behind, especially if it's true, because nobody wants

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Speaker 4: to see this guy, you know, throw away his future

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Speaker 4: or anything. But to your point, it was strange to

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Speaker 4: me that Silver was this specific when he could have

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00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 4: been vague, waited until after the NBA Finals then said Hey,

1205
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 4: here's what we found, and then go ahead and tell

1206
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 4: us what he's gonna tell us anyway, because we just

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Speaker 4: led and now I've asked a follow up on John

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Speaker 4: Morant instead of talking about his NBA Finals, which was

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Speaker 4: supposed was the reason that we didn't go into more

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Speaker 4: detail at that press conference.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, without a doubt, And I think the bigger thing

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Speaker 9: about the suspension, what I hope that the NBA winds

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Speaker 9: up doing, whether it's season long or up through the

1214
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Speaker 9: All Star break, et cetera, that they strike the right

1215
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Speaker 9: core that it's not about the public relations for them saying, hey,

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Speaker 9: now we're being more disciplinarian, because I think the way

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Speaker 9: the league mishandled the first punishment was this, they both

1218
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Speaker 9: them and the Grizzlies really cast John Moran in a

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Speaker 9: light where he was the victim. You know, they played

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Speaker 9: the oh, he's struggling with mental health issues and we

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Speaker 9: feel compassionate for him, and look, I don't take those

1222
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 9: issues lightly, like those are very serious things, but they

1223
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 9: seem to downplay the danger that he put other people in,

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Speaker 9: as well as the harm that he potentially did with

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Speaker 9: these allegations with the high school student. And you know,

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Speaker 9: some of the Pacers team employees, et cetera, and so

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Speaker 9: with whatever they I hope that it's all addresses the

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Speaker 9: root problem of getting a punishment that shows the magnitude

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Speaker 9: of what they find, and so that he feels like

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Speaker 9: he's finally going to be held accountable and that there's

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Speaker 9: actual time for him to address whatever it is. And

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Speaker 9: the first time the idea that he saw a counselor

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Speaker 9: and then all of a sudden a week later he's fine,

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Speaker 9: just reeked of tone deafness on the seriousness of that

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01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 9: specific issue with mental health, and also just seems to

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01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 9: be timed way too perfectly for when the playoffs start.

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Speaker 9: Now John Morana is back and everything's back to normal

1238
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 9: and peaches and cream, and clearly the fact that this

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Speaker 9: has happened again shows that that's.

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Speaker 10: Not the case.

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Speaker 9: So a lot of things unpack, and I'm curious what

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Speaker 9: the NBA actually finds with all this new information.

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01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: Mark macdeina joining us aeron towards Jason Martin here on

1244
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Mark of course our Fox Sports Radio

1245
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: NBA insider. Make sure to follow him on Twitter at

1246
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: my Underscore Medina. Mark. Obviously, you know, let's let's talk

1247
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: a little game one and I think you can look

1248
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: at it one of two ways is obviously short turnaround

1249
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 2: for Miami off an emotional series win, but also Denver

1250
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: is a phenomenal team that is coming off a sweep

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference Finals. I don't want to be hyperbolic,

1252
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: but but do you feel like the series is over?

1253
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: Barring something you know, shocking? Do you believe that it

1254
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: was a blip on the radar because of the travel? Like,

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01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: what is your biggest takeaway from Game one? I guess

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01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: is probably the best way to put it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm with you. I think that fundamentally the serious

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01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 9: outcome as early, I don't want over. I don't want

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01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 9: to say the series is over it's a sweep. I

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01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,479
Speaker 9: think that Miami can get one game or maybe even two.

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Speaker 9: But to your point, I felt like that Game one

1262
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 9: takeaway was that the Nuggets are above and beyond better

1263
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 9: than the Heat and it's inevitable, barring a significant injury,

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01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 9: that they're gonna win the championship. And as much as

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01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 9: I think that Miami can make low hanging fruit adjustments

1266
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 9: of some of their role players like Max shrus and,

1267
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 9: Duncan Robinson and Cable Martin shooting better, same with Jimmy

1268
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 9: Butler and the fact that they're a resilient team. They've

1269
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 9: overachieved his night steeds. They don't have answers defensively to

1270
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 9: stop the nugget because not only did they have Nikola

1271
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 9: Jokic posting triple doubles almost every game, they have Jamal

1272
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 9: Murray playing an all star level, and they have every

1273
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 9: role player that fills every positional need, whether it's another

1274
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 9: interior guy like Aaron Gordon or some good two way

1275
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 9: players like Contavious Coldwell Pope and Bruce Brown. And then

1276
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 9: this like really interesting wild card X factor of Michael

1277
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 9: Porter Junior being a young prospect that was highly touted

1278
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 9: that's finally playing up to his potential because one he's

1279
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 9: healthy and who he's you know, figured out how to

1280
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 9: master his role. And so with that, yeah, it feels

1281
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 9: like Denver's gonna run away with it. But look, I

1282
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 9: didn't think Miami would even get to this far to

1283
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 9: begin with, So I guess you can't technically roll them out.

1284
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Speaker 4: Mark have you ever or how many guys have you

1285
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 4: seen like Jokic. He's so unique to me in that

1286
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 4: he doesn't even have to look for his shot to

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Speaker 4: end up with a triple double. I mean it looked

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Speaker 4: like he had done nothing offensively, and you get to

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter and he ends up with twenty seven points.

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Speaker 4: That's just that's got to be really, really rare. Most

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Speaker 4: of these guys are very high utility players that have

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Speaker 4: to have the ball in their hands all the time.

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Speaker 4: Jokic ends up with eight or nine assists at halftime,

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Speaker 4: he's just collecting stats, and then he ends up with

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Speaker 4: high points, a lot of them coming in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 4: and his team is running away from it. Like he's

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Speaker 4: a star that doesn't need to control the basketball all

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 3: How rare is that?

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Speaker 9: It's very rare, And I think the ironic kind of

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Speaker 9: contradiction is that the offense certainly runs through Jokic, But

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Speaker 9: to your point, he doesn't need to have the ball

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Speaker 9: in his hands a lot or get a lot of shots,

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Speaker 9: and so you know, he's getting a triple double primarily

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Speaker 9: because of that, Like he can hit all boxes of Okay,

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Speaker 9: if you're gonna leave me open, I can get points

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Speaker 9: from you know, three point range, baseline post. If I'm

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Speaker 9: getting double teamed or play, you know, having a good

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Speaker 9: defender on me, I can pass and find the open

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Speaker 9: teammate and it's really illustrated. Something I asked Steve Kerr,

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Speaker 9: the Warriors coach, last year. I was wondering, okay, like,

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Speaker 9: is Jokic more dangerous as a score or a passer?

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Speaker 9: And he looked at me facaciously and said both, Like

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Speaker 9: that's that's the ultimate problem, is that if you try

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Speaker 9: to prioritize one thing, he's gonna punish you with the other.

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Speaker 9: But I think most teams have concluded that they'd much

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Speaker 9: rather have Nakolea Jokic be a score than a passer,

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Speaker 9: because that just means that there's you know, three four

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Speaker 9: more dominant scorers there. And the ironic part with this

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Speaker 9: Miami team is that they weren't throwing double teams at them.

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Speaker 9: They were throwing bam Adebayo and different defenders throwing some

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Speaker 9: zone and he's still getting other teammates involved. So I

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Speaker 9: don't think they have the answers. Like they can bam

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Speaker 9: out of Eyes an all defensive player. He could arguably

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Speaker 9: be an MVP like a Defensive Player of the Year

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Speaker 9: award type player, and they can man all five positions,

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Speaker 9: but beyond him, they're just simply undersize. So I frankly

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Speaker 9: don't know beyond the you know, hoping that he gets

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Speaker 9: in Vouch trouble and they can be physical with them,

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Speaker 9: that they can really do anything defensively.

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Speaker 2: Mark Medina joining US Fox Sports Radio Aeron towards Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: Last one for me, Mark the two teams this week,

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Speaker 2: I thought the Suns with Vogel and the Philadelphia seventy

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Speaker 2: six ers with Nick Nurse. To me, it's hard to

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Speaker 2: get excited about either higher because I think both teams

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Speaker 2: are fundamentally flawed as they're currently constructed. Do you feel

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Speaker 2: like either one, do either one or both? Do you

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Speaker 2: feel like either one or both moves the needle in

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Speaker 2: any way?

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Speaker 3: Or does it?

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01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: Does it come down to can Philly keep James Harden

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: and can they get more out of their stars come

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Speaker 2: playoff time? And obviously the Suns need to address their

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01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: depth issues. Is that the fundamental problem? Or do you

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Speaker 2: think either or both coaching hires help.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Aaron, you hit it right on the head. I

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01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 9: mean the bottom line is NBA teams their success with failures,

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Speaker 9: most mostly personnel driven, and so as far as the

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Speaker 9: head coaching hires, I think they both made great hires.

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Speaker 9: They didn't screw up the coaching process. Let's just put

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Speaker 9: it that way. Because they're good, they're good coaches, they

1352
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 9: have championship experience. It helps with the buy in with

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Speaker 9: star players, et cetera. But I think I think Frank

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Speaker 9: Vogel was exhibit a here of exactly what you said.

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Speaker 9: He helps the Lakers win an NBA championship in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 9: not only because they had Lebron James, Andy Davis, but

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Speaker 9: he had the personnel to become a very elite defensive team,

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Speaker 9: and he really masters that side of the floor. You know,

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Speaker 9: two seasons later the team was terrib defensively because they

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01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 9: didn't really have much of a roster. And then he

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 9: was let go. And so with the Suns, you know,

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Speaker 9: it's gonna help, you know, Kevin Durant and Devin Booker

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Speaker 9: and Chris Paul DeAndre and they're all going to respect him,

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Speaker 9: but they don't have, you know, the quality defenders that

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Speaker 9: they need to be an elite defensive team. They have

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Speaker 9: deandreid who can be a good rim protector, and I

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01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 9: think Kevin Durant can be a good defender as well,

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Speaker 9: even though his obvious value is more on the scoring end.

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Speaker 9: But they need positional players to make this work, and

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Speaker 9: same thing with the Sixers. You know, Nick Nurse will

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Speaker 9: establish I think a good rapport with Joel Embiid even

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Speaker 9: though they had some tumultuous history as opponents, and I

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01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 9: think that James Harden will respect him because of how

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Speaker 9: he handled things in Toronto. But yeah, they need to

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Speaker 9: beef up the roster as well, and I think specifically

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Speaker 9: in the Sixers end, Joel Embiid and James Harden also

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Speaker 9: have to take accountability. As much as Doc Rivers isn't

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Speaker 9: blameless for the Game seven playoff elis, they also didn't

1379
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 9: show up to play in their Game seven against Boston,

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Speaker 9: So yeah, a lot of personnel things that have to

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Speaker 9: be addressed before they worry about the right coach or dot.

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Speaker 2: He is Mark Medina, NBA insider for US at Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Make sure to follow him on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: Mark g Underscore Medina. Mark. I know I always say it,

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Speaker 2: but we appreciate the time here, especially on a Saturday,

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Speaker 2: and we will obviously be talking against soon.

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Speaker 9: I appreciate you guys as always an error I mean,

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Speaker 9: quick plug. You gotta follow his website too. He's got

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Speaker 9: a lot of good MBA one good watch football content.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark's been doing some great work for me personally,

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Speaker 2: and he's been crushing all playoffs. I you know, I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on here, but I appreciate everything you've

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Speaker 2: done for me as well, Mark, and that's not slowing

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Speaker 2: down anytime soon either. So thank you, Mark, appreciate it.

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Speaker 9: Appreciate you. Right back out you guys.

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Speaker 2: All right? That was Mark Medina. Make sure to follow

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Speaker 2: him on Twitter at Mark g Underscore. Medina went a

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Speaker 2: little along with Mark. So let's go straight to the

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Speaker 2: news desk, Steve to Seger, what is trending well?

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Speaker 7: Stanley cut. The final opener was in Vegas tonight and

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01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 7: the home team got three goals in the third period,

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 7: including an empty net or five to the final over Florida.

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01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 7: Game two of the series is Monday night, NBA Finals

1404
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 7: Game two Sunday night. The Brooklyn Nets are hiring Kevin

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01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 7: Ali as an assistant. At the French Open, number six,

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 7: Coco Goff won her third round match. Don't forget Nascars

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Speaker 7: on FS one this weekend, including Sunday's three hundred from

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Speaker 7: Illinois three thirty pm Eastern time. Today's Trucks Race Infinity

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Speaker 7: Races also on FS one, Cole Custer the winner tonight Infinity.

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Speaker 2: As for the.

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Speaker 7: Hockey, by the way, Eric Stahl did score for the

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Speaker 7: Florida Panthers in defeat about seventeen years after his previous

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Speaker 7: goal in the final, longest gap between goals in a

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Speaker 7: final by any player in league history, and at thirty eight,

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Speaker 7: it was a shorthanded goal, oldest guy in NHL history

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Speaker 7: to score shorthanded in a Stanley Cup final. Again, Game

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Speaker 7: two is Monday night, neither franchise has ever won the Cup.

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Speaker 7: Game three isn't until Thursday. In Florida. Three late ballgames

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Speaker 7: in the Major Leagues. Giants lead three to nothing over

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Speaker 7: the Orioles bottom of the fifth, the Padres on FS

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Speaker 7: one have you Darvish on the mound and lead the

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Speaker 7: Cubs three nothing In the top of the six just

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Speaker 7: one hit for the Cubbies so far, Fernando Tatist Junior

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Speaker 7: with his tenth home run. The Cubs place pitcher Justin

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Speaker 7: Steele on the injured list today. The Diamondbacks have won

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Speaker 7: six in a row, but Atlanta's beating him tonight three

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01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 7: nothing going to the bottom of the fifth inning with

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Speaker 7: Spencer Stryder on the mound, trying to go to six

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Speaker 7: and two on the season. If if the home team

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01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 7: can come back and win, Arizona would be alone in

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Speaker 7: first in the NL West. Because the Dodgers lost at

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Speaker 7: home tonight to the Yankee six three over La. Yankees

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Speaker 7: hit four home runs. Aaron Judge with his nineteenth wins

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Speaker 7: for Houston and Cleveland, for Toronto to one at the Mets,

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Speaker 7: and for Miami, which beat Oakland twelve to one. Luis

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Speaker 7: Arriaz went five for five. He's batting three ninety the

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Speaker 7: A's on the road this season five and twenty four.

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Speaker 7: Texas whip Seattle sixteen to six. Philadelphia four to two

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01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 7: winner at Washington fills it into five game losing streak.

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Speaker 7: Pittsburgh has won four straight, Milwaukee won again, and Boston

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Speaker 7: split a doubleheader with Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Seger,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday eron Torus Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: yourself at discovered dot com slash match, tell you what, Jason,

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Speaker 2: Let's come back and I want to discuss maybe the

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Speaker 2: biggest what if. What if in NFL history might be

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01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: a little high perperly, we'll explain it next.

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01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 3: I want to know what you're going with on that.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, stay tuned. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Erittords Jason Martin broadcasting live from thee tireq

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Speaker 2: dot com studios. Busy Saturday night here for June. A

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Speaker 2: lot of baseball. But Jason, do want to talk a

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Speaker 2: little NFL we You know we've been light on you know,

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01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 2: we've been light on NFL topics these last couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks again, unless you want to just talk about the

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Speaker 2: the never ending Aaron Rodgers Packers breakup, which there's a

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01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: new twist to every day, even though he left the

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Speaker 2: organization about three four weeks ago. Uh, but you sent

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Speaker 2: me a very interesting story that, frankly, could go down

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Speaker 2: as maybe one of the biggest what ifs in recent

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Speaker 2: NFL history. I think I said NFL history before the break,

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Speaker 2: but that's how I get just stayed, stayed stay through

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Speaker 2: the break. So you sent this to me Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 2: who was last seen in Denver. Not a good year.

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Speaker 2: You're a Broncos fan, so I don't we don't need

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Speaker 2: to relive it play by play, but you know he

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Speaker 2: struggled in his u in his new home last year.

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Speaker 2: Part of it was Nathaniel Hackett. We get all that.

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Speaker 2: But why I bring it up is because Greg Bishop

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01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: in a in an interview in Seattle, Greg Bishop, NFL

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Speaker 2: insider for spots for Sports Illustrated reference something that had

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Speaker 2: also previously been referenced by Ian Rappaport, which was that

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: they had both heard through the grapevine that last offseason

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01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles actually made a real push for Russell Wilson,

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01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: but that he preferred Denver. And you talk about the

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Speaker 2: crazy scenarios that have obviously played out since then, Philadelphia

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 2: makes the Super Bowl, Jalen Hurts for a time, becomes

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Speaker 2: the highest paid quarterback in NFL history. I mean, you

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01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 2: just talk about the crazy what if. And that's not

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Speaker 2: even from the Denver perspective, that's just from the Philly

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01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 2: perspective of how well, you know, sometimes sometimes the best

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01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 2: moves you make are the ones that you don't. And

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01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: you talk about how well that has now worked out,

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01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 2: or at least it appears to for Philadelphia, which has

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. He's set for the future. The rest of

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01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 2: the team is in great shape, while Russell Wilson obviously

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01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: is in basically career reboot mode right now trying to

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Speaker 2: get things back on track with Champaigne this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's fast to think about what could

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Speaker 4: have happened had that gone through no trade clause for Russ.

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Speaker 4: He said no according to the at least according to

1496
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 4: the articles. According to the reporting, if he goes there,

1497
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 4: we may not have ever had the Jaywen Hurts season

1498
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 4: that we just had. Now the question is, does he

1499
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 4: go there and have a similarly bad season, and then,

1500
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 4: unlike in Denver where you really don't have this option,

1501
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 4: in Philly, conceivably you've still got Jaywen Hurts. Is the

1502
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 4: possibility that Russ actually gets benched, Like, think about that

1503
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 4: storyline for a minute. It goes out in Philadelphia, it

1504
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 4: doesn't go well early, and you know, midway through the season,

1505
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 4: Let's see what we got with jay One. Let's put

1506
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 4: him back in there. He you know, he was in

1507
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 4: the playoffs last year. If Russ had gotten benched, we

1508
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 4: would be thinking even differently about him now. And he

1509
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 4: had a bad year and this is either going to

1510
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 4: be redemption time or it's gonna be what oh in

1511
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 4: terms of his legacy and future and everything else. But

1512
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 4: he got to pretty much play out the season in

1513
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 4: Denver as bad as it all went, you had the

1514
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 4: coach fired and everything else. But in Philly, if he

1515
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 4: gets benched, we have a completely different argument on our hands.

1516
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 4: We have a different storyline, and that would have become

1517
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 4: a talking point mid season and Philadelphia be in the

1518
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 4: market that it is those fans think about how poorly

1519
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 4: that could have gone if Russ had gone there and

1520
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 4: struggled early on, and then you wonder this, they're gonna

1521
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 4: bring in Russ. One of the big reasons they got

1522
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 4: Aj Brown is because of his relationship to Jay when Hurts,

1523
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 4: So think about that tie in as well, Like him

1524
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 4: and Hurts at that wedding, they were throwing football to

1525
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 4: each other, AJ was I guess it Hurts tried to

1526
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 4: get Aj to come to Alabama.

1527
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 3: Like that storyline was out there.

1528
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 4: These guys have been friendstance high school and like that's

1529
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 4: a big part of the reason why Aj Brown is

1530
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 4: playing in Philadelphia. Now, maybe he's not there, or maybe

1531
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 4: that whole thing went really awry, This whole thing where

1532
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 4: we're talking about how brilliant the Eagles have been in

1533
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 4: their rebuilding process and the way that they've acquired talent,

1534
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 4: the way they've drafted, the moves that they've made. Think

1535
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 4: about the domino effect of Russell Wilson having not said no,

1536
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 4: if this is all true going to Philadelphia. The situation

1537
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 4: with Jalen Hurts. The season we just saw, even the

1538
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 4: way he played in the Super Bowl sands one bad play. Basically,

1539
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 4: it is one of the great what what ifs in

1540
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 4: NFL history. Had they won the Super Bowl, it would

1541
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 4: have been a no brainer, one of the biggest what

1542
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 4: ifs in NFL history. But they were right there, they

1543
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 4: almost did, and with I don't think Russell Wilson has

1544
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 4: them in the Super Bowl.

1545
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt based on what we

1546
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 2: saw this past season that he woned. And like I

1547
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 2: said before, I tossed it over to you, sometimes the

1548
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 2: best moves are the ones that you don't make. And

1549
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: it's funny I was thinking about that this week with

1550
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 2: obviously Bob Meyers, the GM of the Golden State Warriors

1551
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 2: resigned or you know, his contract was up or whatever,

1552
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: but he decided to step away. And you know, everybody's

1553
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: doing these gushing, glowing, you know, stories on him and

1554
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 2: memorandums and whatever. And I sat there and said, like,

1555
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: he had some nice breaks along the way that went

1556
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: in his favor, besides obviously Kevin Durant, Right, Kevin Durant

1557
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 2: goes without saying, but this isn't like a tearound Bob

1558
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 2: Meyer segment. But he didn't draft Steph, he didn't draft Clay,

1559
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 2: didn't draft Draymond. But there was also that moment in

1560
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: time where there were a lot of people that wanted

1561
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 2: him to trade Klay Thompson for Kevin Love and if

1562
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: you remember, that was like a real thing. And Jerry

1563
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: West was the one that came out and said, if

1564
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 2: you trade this Klay Thompson kid, I'm walking out of

1565
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 2: this building and never coming back. And so I'm not

1566
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 2: saying it would have been Bob Meyer's fault whatever, but

1567
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: you look at that as like one of those great

1568
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: moments in history that could have gone a different way

1569
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: and instead went the way that it did. And now

1570
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 2: NBA history has been changed forever. I'm not saying the

1571
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles of the Golden State Warriors, but coming off

1572
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 2: of his Super Bowl that's super young core. They're gonna

1573
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 2: be an overwhelming favorite in the NFC this coming season.

1574
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 2: I don't know that any of that is happening if

1575
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is there. And then obviously the reverse effect

1576
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: too of what it meant for Russell Wilson. So again,

1577
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: I know I just said it, but like sometimes the

1578
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: moves that you don't make are the ones that change history.

1579
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 2: And again we saw it in Golden State. That was

1580
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,919
Speaker 2: just an example. But what could what the Philadelphia Eagles

1581
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: future over the next ten years could look like is

1582
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 2: kind of crazy to think about.

1583
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 4: Well, I mean yeah, I mean there's some other good

1584
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 4: what ifs as well. I mean, what happens if the

1585
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins find a way to land Drew Brees that

1586
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 4: year when Nick Saban is there, and maybe Nick Saban

1587
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 4: never leaves, or maybe he's there a lot longer, doesn't

1588
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 4: end up at Alabama and what happened at Alabama never

1589
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 4: happens at Alabama. Like, there's there's definitely a lot there.

1590
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 4: I've heard this said, and I try to live by this.

1591
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 4: The thief's best is the great The thing that can

1592
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 4: keep you from the best thing is the great thing,

1593
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 4: because it's hard to leave the great thing. So I

1594
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 4: think that that's part of it. Like I mean, if

1595
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 4: you get to Russell Wilson, you feel like you're getting

1596
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 4: a great situation, but you may have missed the best,

1597
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 4: the best situations, the one that you fell into last

1598
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 4: year that may have set you up for success for

1599
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 4: the next decade and given you your franchise player, a

1600
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 4: guy that's gonna be beloved there for a very long time.

1601
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 3: I believe in Jalen Hurts. There's just there's a lot there, man.

1602
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 4: Like that story I saw that in my eyes was

1603
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 4: just oh, my goodness, Russ almost ended up in Philadelphia

1604
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 4: and then he said no to it and the Eagles

1605
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 4: are going to sleep every night and just saying, my gosh,

1606
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 4: thank goodness. Oh that's the thing that we prayed that

1607
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 4: we wanted, but we didn't know enough to know we

1608
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 4: didn't want it.

1609
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: Don't disagree on anything, and yeah, just one of those

1610
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 2: fascinating what ifs. And again I just look at it

1611
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: from not only the Russell Wilson, like just how much

1612
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 2: better set up. They are for the future. Uh with

1613
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: all those young players and now the young quarterback to

1614
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,200
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1617
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1625
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1626
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1627
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Speaker 2: There's Chicago White Sox Radio Network affiliate and program director

1628
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Speaker 2: oh one point one. Eric Torres, Jason Martin again broadcasting

1632
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 2: live from the tyreck dot Com studios. We're on until

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Speaker 2: two am Eastern Time, been on since ten pm Eastern Time.

1634
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 2: And I bring it up, Jason, because we opened the

1635
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: show by talking Game one of the NBA Finals. The

1636
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets take care of business in a game that

1637
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 2: frankly just really wasn't competitive. Like I mean, there's really

1638
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 2: no other way to put it. Denver jumped out to

1639
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 2: a huge lead. The Heat, to their credit, did make

1640
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 2: a comeback to make it look a little bit more

1641
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 2: competitive than it was an eleven point win. But we

1642
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: opened the show, Jason, and you were pretty blunt. You said,

1643
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 2: I don't really see the pathway for these Miami Heat

1644
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: to win four out of the next six games and

1645
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 2: claim them, you know, claim an NBA championships. So I

1646
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 2: guess that's what I would say. Is is there anything

1647
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 2: like like what makes like what did you see in

1648
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,839
Speaker 2: Game one or what have you seen in these playoffs

1649
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 2: that make you confident that Denver isn't gonna fold like

1650
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 2: some other teams have against Miami. And frankly, you know,

1651
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 2: we could get to this throughout this opening segment here,

1652
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: like what does Denver or what does Miami have to

1653
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 2: do to make this thing competitive because Denver absolutely dominates

1654
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 2: Game one.

1655
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it goes back to our guests from

1656
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 4: last hour. If you missed him, I should always catch

1657
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 4: Mark Madeena when he's on with us our Fox Sports

1658
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 4: NBA insider. He said, to my question about Jokic and

1659
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 4: how unique he is as a player in terms of

1660
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 4: not needing to end up or not to have the

1661
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 4: ball consistently and shoot the ball consistently to be effective.

1662
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 4: He ends up with a triple double where maybe he's

1663
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 4: not even gonna have double figures midway through the third

1664
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 4: quarter and you look up, he's got twenty seven points

1665
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 4: to lead his team because of what he did in

1666
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 4: the fourth.

1667
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 3: But it's his.

1668
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 4: Assists and the way he moves the basketball around and

1669
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 4: finds the open guy, and just his basketball IQ and

1670
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 4: everything like that. Like he said, bam Adebayo is a

1671
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 4: potential defensive of the year kind of player. But he

1672
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 4: couldn't like there's nothing you can do because Jokicic is

1673
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 4: so multifaceted, because he possesses so many different ways to

1674
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 4: beat you, and he's so hard to play against, he said.

1675
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 4: When he asked Steve Kerry the question about you know,

1676
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 4: is he more dangerous as a scorer as or as

1677
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 4: a passer? And courage response was both, which makes sense.

1678
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're supposed to do to stop

1679
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 4: him if you're Miami. Especially Miami, they just don't seem

1680
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 4: particularly well equipped to deal with this. And the biggest

1681
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 4: problem is there are a fleet of guys on that

1682
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 4: Denver team that Jokic can get the ball to who

1683
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 4: can make shots, and he's given them the ball where

1684
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 4: they want to shoot, and they all seem to be

1685
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 4: hot at the right time. I mean, Murray is absolutely

1686
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 4: on fire. Michael Porter Junior is really playing well in

1687
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 4: these playoffs. KCP has made some big shots in all

1688
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 4: the series so far. Brown is making plays he's gon't

1689
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 4: get paid in the offseason. And then you've got Aaron Gordon. Now,

1690
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 4: Gordon's not gonna give you the kind of game every

1691
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 4: night that he gave you in Game one, Like he's

1692
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 4: frustratingly inconsistent. But when he's on, they really do feel

1693
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 4: like they're unbeatable. You're right, like, pretty much from the jump,

1694
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 4: this dish didn't feel like a basketball game. Credit the

1695
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 4: Heat for not getting beat by forty and fighting back

1696
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 4: to get it, you know, near single digits, but I

1697
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 4: don't ever think they quite got there once it really

1698
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 4: blew up in the second half. But the reason I

1699
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 4: watched it and felt this way, and I've watched it

1700
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 4: through the playoffs, is just the Nuggets are better than everybody.

1701
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 4: They're more complete than everybody. They're deeper than everybody where

1702
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 4: it matters, like they don't. It's not like fifteen deep,

1703
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 4: but nobody's going fifteen deep in the NBA Finals. You

1704
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 4: need a rotation of about six to eight guys max,

1705
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:52,600
Speaker 4: and they all need to be able to contribute, and

1706
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 4: they are. And the problem for Miami is Miami's a

1707
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 4: very hot and cold team. Offensively, Struce has not shot

1708
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 4: the ball well, especially in the last two rounds, and

1709
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 4: Game one he was awful. Caleb Martin's banged up and

1710
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 4: you need everything you can get from him right now.

1711
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 4: Butler just didn't seem to be as aggressive as he

1712
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 4: needed to be in Game one, and maybe you credit

1713
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 4: the Nuggets for making it difficult on him, and just

1714
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 4: he wasn't able to be aggressive, and bam, he gave

1715
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 4: you a really nice game overall in Game one, and

1716
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 4: I'm not sure he's capable of doing that maybe one

1717
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 4: more time in this series against what the Nuggets are

1718
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 4: gonna bring. So I just don't look at the matchup

1719
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,839
Speaker 4: and think there is a real pathway that makes sense,

1720
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 4: Like it's basketball and there's plenty of opportunity for them.

1721
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 4: I just think the Nuggets are better. And sometimes it's

1722
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 4: obvious very quickly. And I think that's why I said,

1723
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 4: if this turns out to be a sweep, I wouldn't

1724
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:47,480
Speaker 4: beat the least bit surprised.

1725
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it goes back to what I said in

1726
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 2: our one when we were actually talking about the Celtics

1727
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 2: about you know, is there a next move for them?

1728
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,919
Speaker 2: But it's why I think, like the like the Lakers.

1729
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't think it's panic time for the Lakers because

1730
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 2: I just think the Nuggets are that good. And you know,

1731
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: sometimes you catch a team at the right time peaking,

1732
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 2: everybody's healthy, everybody's operating at the highest level. That's what

1733
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 2: the Lakers got a last round, and it's what the

1734
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: Heat have got in this round as well. And what

1735
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: I would say is, and I know it's obvious, but

1736
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: but sometimes you just got to watch games and stuff

1737
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: sticks out that might not otherwise, And Like, what strikes

1738
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: me that's so obvious and interesting about Denver is exactly

1739
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 2: what you just said, Jason is like most teams, if

1740
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 2: they have an NBA, an NBA MVP caliber player, if

1741
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 2: that dude like that, dude's got to be the best

1742
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 2: guy on the floor, getting the most points, doing this,

1743
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 2: doing that, right. Like we've talked a lot this show

1744
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks about Joel Embiid and

1745
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia seventy six ers. They fired Doc Rivers, they

1746
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 2: bring in Nick Nurse, But if Joel Embiid isn't operating

1747
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 2: at a higher level in big games, none of it

1748
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 2: is going to matter. Well, Nikola Jokich to a point

1749
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: that you brought up with Mark Medina, that's a guy

1750
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 2: that he can finish the game with four points and

1751
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 2: have the biggest impact on the game of any guy

1752
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: on the court. And so that's where I think it

1753
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 2: gets complicated, is you know we've now watched this is

1754
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: now the fourth round of the NBA playoffs, and Darvinham

1755
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 2: elite defensive coach, Anthony Davis elite defender. You know, you

1756
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 2: go on down the list. Monti Williams is a good coach,

1757
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: you know, blanking on the guy's name, Eric Spolster. I

1758
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 2: don't know why. I was just blanking on that. He's

1759
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: obviously an elite coach and there's just no way to

1760
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: stop Jokic. And so that, to me, that's where my concern,

1761
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: that's where my concern comes in. And that's where I'm

1762
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 2: with you in that I'm not telling people don't watch

1763
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 2: the games and don't don't do whatever. I just think

1764
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 2: the pathway is so, so so tough because I don't know, like,

1765
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if there really is a quote unquote

1766
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 2: way to stop Jokic in the same way that Steve Kerr,

1767
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 2: you know you mentioned Mark Madina asked Steve Kerr, what's

1768
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 2: tougher to defend the passing or the scoring? He said both.

1769
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: And that's what would concern me is if I'm Miami,

1770
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: is this guy is operating at such a high level.

1771
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 2: But most importantly, Jason, he can beat you in so

1772
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 2: many different ways. And that's why I just don't know

1773
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 2: what the blueprint is because if you hold him to two,

1774
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: he might have fourteen assists like he did the other night.

1775
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 2: If he goes off for thirty, then obviously that's disadvantageous

1776
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 2: as well. So I'm beating around the bush here, I'm

1777
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 2: going around in circles. But that's just what stands out

1778
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 2: to me about that team is just their star player

1779
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 2: can beat you in so many ways, and there's not

1780
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 2: one way to shut down that team in general.

1781
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the offense still flows through him, but he's

1782
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 4: not gonna take every shot, but if he could, he's

1783
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 4: gonna make probably enough of them to beat you on

1784
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 4: a regular basis anyway. That's why I feel like he's

1785
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 4: so unique and why he's so special and why you

1786
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 4: know he's done what he's done for this Denver team.

1787
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 4: You look at Luca for example, in Dallas, Lucas, I'm

1788
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 4: pretty sure most of the time he'll get you forty,

1789
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 4: he'll get you close to forty or thirty five because

1790
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 4: he's gonna take that many shots. But that's about it, right, Like,

1791
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of that's what he's going to

1792
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 4: have to do to keep them close for them to

1793
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 4: win games. Most of the time, he's gonna have to

1794
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 4: have the ball an insane amount of time, just like

1795
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 4: James Harden and Houston for example, Like just a guy

1796
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 4: that just the usage rate was off the charts when

1797
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 4: you look at Jokic. Jokic had seven field goal attempts

1798
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 4: in the first three quarters in an NBA Finals game

1799
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 4: where the you know, two time raining defending MVP prior

1800
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 4: to this year when Embiid won it.

1801
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 3: This is a guy that he didn't even try to

1802
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 3: look for a shot, but.

1803
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 4: His statistical value in all the other categories was so

1804
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 4: ridiculous that it didn't matter, and everybody was hot because

1805
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 4: he's finding them all. You're not standing around watching somebody

1806
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 4: play hero ball who then eventually you either get a

1807
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 4: rebound and score or maybe once in a blue moon,

1808
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 4: he jumps in the air and there's no to go

1809
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 4: with the ball and he ends up passing it over

1810
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 4: to you. That's happened in a lot of these franchise

1811
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 4: and it's definitely happened with a lot of these NBA

1812
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 4: superstars and Jokic his game is so different that every

1813
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 4: it's not a surprise to me, Aaron, that a lot

1814
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 4: of these secondary players seem to be pretty hot shooting

1815
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 4: the basketball because Jokic is gonna find you, and you

1816
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 4: trust it he is. Every time he gets the ball.

1817
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 4: You don't assume he's going to the rack.

1818
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 3: He might.

1819
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 4: If he does and he gets fouled, he's probably gonna

1820
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 4: make the free throw because he's better at that than

1821
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 4: a lot of guys his size as well. But he's

1822
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 4: an exquisite passer at his size, and his vision is

1823
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 4: just insane. And so you look at Porter Junior and

1824
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 4: some of these guys, they're getting opportunity after opportunity after opportunity,

1825
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 4: and I think Malone has given some of these guys

1826
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 4: the green light and say, hey, yeah.

1827
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 3: Man, shoot it up.

1828
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 4: We'll find out who's hot, and then it's gonna be

1829
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 4: a heat check from that point on. If it's Murray,

1830
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 4: get out of the way, twenty seven will.

1831
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 3: Take it home.

1832
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 4: And if it's you know, Katavious Colwell Pope I think

1833
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 4: had twenty one in one of the games against the

1834
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 4: Lakers in the first half. Stuff like that, Like it

1835
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 4: doesn't always have to beat Damian Lillard going for sixty

1836
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 4: the way it isn't in Portland for them to have

1837
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,839
Speaker 4: to win. Jokicic can do it in so many different ways.

1838
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 4: That's why I just to pick your poison approach just

1839
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 4: ain't gonna work, because I don't think Miami has the

1840
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 4: answer to solve this offense flowing through Jokics the way

1841
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 4: that it does.

1842
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,719
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a dumb question because I already

1843
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 2: think I know what the answer is because you kind

1844
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 2: of referenced it earlier. But there's obviously we've all watched

1845
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 2: sports our whole lives. Anybody listening probably has as well.

1846
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 2: It's why we do what we do. It's why everybody

1847
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 2: listening is listening. And there is an adage in sports

1848
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,679
Speaker 2: that the series doesn't really start until the home team

1849
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 2: loses a game. And so I guess what I'm trying

1850
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 2: to ask is Denver hasn't lost in home all playoffs.

1851
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 2: They had an eight to nine day break between games,

1852
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 2: whereas Miami played on Monday night, then immediately had to

1853
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 2: fly across country and was playing less than seventy two

1854
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 2: hours later. Is there any scenario in your opinion where

1855
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 2: obviously Denver's awesome. So this isn't a discredit Denver, but

1856
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 2: that maybe, just maybe it was a perfect storm for Denver,

1857
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 2: and not even necessarily that like something crazy is gonna

1858
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 2: happen tomorrow, but get Miami home, get them with that

1859
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 2: home crowd, get Denver away from the altitude, and that

1860
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 2: maybe Miami can at the very least win Game three

1861
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 2: and kind of make this a series going forward.

1862
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 4: I mean, certainly it's possible you'll have a better chance

1863
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 4: at home. But let me just say this, if you

1864
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 4: go down too oh to this Nuggets team, you're picking

1865
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 4: anybody in the NBA to take four or.

1866
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 3: Five from that group.

1867
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm not you gotta win.

1868
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 4: That's why, like, it shouldn't be a must win for

1869
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 4: the road team to win one of the first two

1870
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 4: games at home. But I just think this Nuggets team

1871
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 4: is so stacked, so consistent, and so just it just

1872
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 4: gels in so many different ways that the idea of

1873
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 4: beating them eighty percent of the time after losing two,

1874
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 4: I just don't see it like that. That's why I

1875
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 4: just I feel like this could easily be a sweep.

1876
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a five game series. Maybe you do get

1877
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 4: game three and it ends up being a four to

1878
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 4: one series. I just I have a hard time believing

1879
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 4: that Miami's gonna go home and get that kind of

1880
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 4: momentum against this Nuggets team. It just they've had to

1881
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 4: play a lot, they have had emotional highs and lows. Obviously,

1882
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 4: with a three to zero to then have to go

1883
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 4: win a game seven. You mentioned the mileage on Butler's

1884
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 4: tires maybe finally catching up to him, and him feeling,

1885
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 4: you know, maybe maybe his best basketball this season has

1886
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 4: already happened. It just doesn't look right right now for Miami.

1887
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 4: I just this Nuggets team feels like it's just this

1888
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 4: is stanos Man, this is inevitable at this point, and

1889
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 4: they're gonna be a deserving champion.

1890
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. I want, and you know one, it's for what

1891
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 2: we do. I don't want a boring finals. I don't

1892
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 2: want a finals where everybody kind of knows the outcome.

1893
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 2: But I'm with you. I just the pathway for Miami

1894
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 2: to win four of the next six, needing to win

1895
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 2: at least one in Denver, when Denver hasn't lost there

1896
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 2: in the entire playoffs. I just I don't know that

1897
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 2: I see it. And I hope I'm wrong, and I

1898
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 2: hope it gets interesting, and I hope we get seven games,

1899
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 2: and I hope it's awesome. But I do worry a

1900
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,759
Speaker 2: little bit about that possibility. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin.

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01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 2: we talk a lot of college football on this show

1915
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Speaker 2: in general. Obviously being on Saturday nights at ten pm Eastern,

1916
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 2: it's basically a good chunk of every show from about

1917
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 2: mid August straight through pretty much mid January, just because

1918
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 2: of the time slot we're in and the things that

1919
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 2: we're reacting to. And there were actually quite a few

1920
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 2: news items pertaining to the future of college football this

1921
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 2: week that that feel relevant. The first one I want

1922
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 2: to talk about came from SEC Spring meetings down in Destin, Florida.

1923
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 2: If people don't know, all the schools, by the way

1924
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 2: this year, including Texas and Oklahoma, their administrators get together,

1925
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 2: their school presidents get together, their coaches get together and

1926
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 2: just kind of talk talk through the issues that are

1927
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 2: going on in the league. Right now. I bring it

1928
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 2: up because the big topic this week was the future

1929
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 2: of SEC football schedules. Right now, the SEC has eight

1930
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 2: league games, in other words, eight SEC games. Meanwhile, the

1931
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 2: Big Ten, the Big twelve, and the Pac twelve all

1932
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 2: have nine. So the conversation was do you eventually go

1933
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 2: to nine? And at least for right now, Jason, the

1934
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 2: SEC is going to stick to eight. And the last

1935
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 2: note I want I want to share before I get

1936
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Speaker 2: it to you is that, remember we are going to

1937
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 2: an expanded college football Playoff after this coming season. So

1938
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 2: it's not as though like if we didn't have the

1939
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 2: expanded playoff and there were only four teams that made

1940
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 2: that playoff. I could understand the SEC saying let's stick

1941
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 2: with eight because our league is tough, you never know,

1942
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 2: and we're not going to add an extra game. But

1943
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 2: with a twelve team playoff where we assume a minimum

1944
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 2: of three SEC teams is probably gonna make it every year.

1945
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 2: I don't really get why you want to do it now.

1946
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: To be clear, last thing I promise is that based

1947
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 2: on everything that was reported, this is not final as

1948
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 2: in forever, but at least for twenty twenty four, they're

1949
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 2: going to stick with eight league games. Do you have

1950
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 2: any strong thoughts about that, Jason, I.

1951
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 4: Mean it's a bad look optically, right, because it feels

1952
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 4: like the SEC is trying to make sure that not

1953
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 4: only do they have three, but they also have more

1954
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 4: teams to get Bowl eligible, because it's easier to get

1955
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 4: six wins if you're not, you know, having to go

1956
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 4: through the riggers of an SEC schedule. But then there's

1957
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 4: some nuance here that needs to be discussed. One you

1958
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 4: can tell Sankie wants nine, or certainly that's the perception.

1959
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna get nine, but it might take

1960
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 4: till twenty twenty five. I think one of the things

1961
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 4: that we've seen in the reporting is these schools would

1962
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 4: like ESPN to pony up more money with Oklahoma and

1963
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 4: Texas coming in, and then they would be more you

1964
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 4: know towards a nine game and all that they would

1965
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 4: like to get richer out of this if they could.

1966
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,759
Speaker 4: But then there's the argument you have this save an argument,

1967
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 4: which is I don't think it's fair that we have

1968
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 4: to play meaning Alabama, we have to play LSU, Auburn

1969
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 4: and Tennessee.

1970
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,560
Speaker 3: Is our three every.

1971
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 4: Year games with everything else being rotated around when there's

1972
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,759
Speaker 4: gonna be other schools that don't have, you know, schools

1973
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 4: that difficult. But unfortunately for Alabama's argument, there their rivalries

1974
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,799
Speaker 4: which are super important to college football, especially in the SEC.

1975
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 2: Can I jump in though? Yeah, go ahead, Like I

1976
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 2: understand that Tennessee is on an uptick, but are those

1977
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 2: rivalries like really that hard? Like, you know, you think

1978
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 2: about who everybody else could end up with, Like Texas

1979
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 2: is almost gonna certainly have to play Texas, A and

1980
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 2: M and Oklahoma. Uh, you know, I don't know. Auburn's

1981
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 2: always gonna play Georgia and Alabama if you have three

1982
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 2: league rivals Like that was the part that tripped me up.

1983
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 2: Is relatively speaking, if you go through like the last

1984
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 2: twenty years, LSU all burn in Tennessee as annual rivals,

1985
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 2: isn't a terrible draw. LSU is always gonna be good.

1986
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 2: But Auburn has been. There's been a lot of peaks

1987
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 2: and valleys with that program, and there have been mostly

1988
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 2: values with Tennessee. That was the part that kind of

1989
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:10,679
Speaker 2: made me laugh. Is like, on the scale of the

1990
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 2: three toughest teams that you could draw, that doesn't feel

1991
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 2: that tough to me. It really doesn't.

1992
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you can make that argument, but if

1993
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 4: you're looking at Saban now, he's not arguing that we've

1994
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 4: had to play Tennessee when they were being coached by

1995
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 4: Jeremy Pruitt and you know people in the past, Derek

1996
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 4: Dooley and things like that. He's saying this hypel team

1997
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 4: that's probably gonna be here for a while, that team,

1998
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 4: this LSU team with Brian Kelly, that team, and Auburn

1999
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 4: whatever their future is going to be. You know, that's

2000
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 4: one that you're not gonna get out of, obviously because

2001
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 4: it's the Iron Bowl and everything else. But that thing's

2002
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 4: often competitive when it has no business being competitive. And

2003
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 4: that means on Auburn side, at least in recent memory.

2004
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 4: I'm not discrediting your point. I'm just looking at from

2005
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:57,599
Speaker 4: the Alabama perspective. So you have that, and then you

2006
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 4: have the argument of some of the schools that wanted eight.

2007
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 4: Where you look at Kentucky arguing we got to play

2008
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 4: Louisville out.

2009
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 3: Of conference every year, that's a tough game.

2010
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 4: South Carolina saying we've got to play Clemson every year

2011
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 4: out of conference.

2012
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:11,719
Speaker 3: That's a tough game.

2013
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 4: So you have a few schools to have those in

2014
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 4: state rivalries that are difficult asks for them. Florida's got

2015
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 4: to play Florida State, you know, every year, things like that.

2016
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Speaker 4: So that's been one of the arguments out there as well.

2017
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Speaker 4: It's still not a great look for the SEC, but

2018
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 4: I think it's just a matter of time, situation, and

2019
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 4: it's gonna be easy because yeah, it's gonna be easy

2020
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 4: to pile on the SEC right now because it always

2021
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 4: is because they're the big dog. So you're gonna try

2022
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 4: and use this to do whatever you can to butchers

2023
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 4: your own conference.

2024
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 3: Here's the other thing about the SEC and.

2025
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 4: Everything that's happening right here, all the ink that's being spilled,

2026
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 4: the virtual ink online, the ink in you know, newspapers, magazines, whatever.

2027
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 4: Let me tell you what it apps, what it means

2028
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 4: when it comes down to it, when it comes to

2029
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 4: the playoff, and when it comes to national championships in

2030
01:40:56,160 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 4: college football, Bucus, it means nothing and knows that say

2031
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 4: whatever you want, We're just gonna keep winning championships. Have

2032
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 4: you looked at.

2033
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 2: George's twenty twenty three schedule.

2034
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 3: It's pathetic.

2035
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 2: You look at George's twenty twenty three roster, but keep

2036
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 2: going get out on no.

2037
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's to say. I mean, I'm pretty

2038
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,599
Speaker 4: much done with the point. It's just the SEC shrugging

2039
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 4: their shoulders and saying, so what tough, Like, who's gonna

2040
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 4: tell them they have.

2041
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 3: To do anything? They're making their own rules. I do

2042
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 3: think they will go to nine.

2043
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 4: I think it'll happen probably shortly after Oklahoma and Texas

2044
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 4: come into the conference. We'll see what gets stipulated and

2045
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 4: how they set it up. But I just don't think

2046
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 4: they feel like there's any urgency here because what do

2047
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 4: they have to prove to anybody else? People can run

2048
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 4: their mouth all they want. They just keep winning titles.

2049
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting, and yeah, this is one I think

2050
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 2: it's a fun conversation. It is hard for me to

2051
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 2: get fired up on this only because it does feel

2052
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 2: as though this is a placeholder. And you know, I

2053
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 2: think the thing that people forget too about this, and

2054
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,680
Speaker 2: then we'll talk to Sagre. But like, I think the

2055
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 2: thing that people forget about this is that like a

2056
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 2: lot of stuff changed in a short amount of time

2057
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 2: in college football. Like remember Texas and Oklahoma they commit

2058
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one to come. They weren't supposed to

2059
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 2: come till twenty twenty five. Now they're coming. In twenty

2060
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 2: twenty four, the College Football Playoff was pushed through, Like like,

2061
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 2: I think the thought was, I forget the exact year,

2062
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 2: but I think the contract ended in twenty twenty six,

2063
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 2: and the thought was, Okay, after twenty twenty six, we're

2064
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 2: gonna reevaluate. And it was the school president's last year

2065
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 2: around Labor Day that just said, no, we're doing this

2066
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 2: twelfth team thing, and you guys got to go figure

2067
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 2: it out right now. And so I just bring it

2068
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,719
Speaker 2: up to very simply say that a lot has changed,

2069
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 2: and I really have no fundamental issue with the SEC

2070
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 2: taking a year or two to say, hey, let's SE's

2071
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 2: into this. We got another you know, one hundred years

2072
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 2: with Texas and Oklahoma part of what we do. Let's

2073
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 2: not rush into it, but they better get there, though,

2074
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 2: I mean, they better get there because it looks weak.

2075
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 2: And like I said, if you're doing it in a

2076
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 2: scenario where we have a twelve team college football playoff,

2077
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:05,680
Speaker 2: where two three of your teams every year gonna have

2078
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 2: a chance to could be for a championship, there's no

2079
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 2: excuse not to add the extra game. Fox Sports Radio

2080
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 2: Aeron Tors, Jason Martin coming up. I want to discuss

2081
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 2: the other big news out of college sports, and it

2082
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 2: is big. It's certainly interesting. We'll discuss that next. Before

2083
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 2: we do, though, let's toss it over the news desk,

2084
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 2: Steve de Seger, what is trending?

2085
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 7: We will get to hockey in a moment, but there

2086
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 7: are three late night ball games, including the Braves in action.

2087
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:32,720
Speaker 7: Ronald Acunya has hit home run at Arizona, estimated to

2088
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 7: go four hundred and sixty four feet.

2089
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 3: Did you see it, Steve?

2090
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 7: I am looking at the video as we speak.

2091
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:39,640
Speaker 3: I watched it.

2092
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 10: I watched.

2093
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 3: I barely could talk.

2094
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 4: I was in the middle of a comment. I was

2095
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 4: just like, oh my lord.

2096
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 7: The beat writer for MLB Mark Bowmen, Longtime with Atlanta, says,

2097
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 7: this is Acunya's third home run of at least four

2098
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 7: hundred and sixty feet already this year, and no other

2099
01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 7: player entered today with more than one. Wow, that was

2100
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 7: a long one Braves five, Diamondbacks two, top of the

2101
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 7: eighth inning. This would end Arizona's six game winning streak,

2102
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 7: and it would be good news for the Dodgers because

2103
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 7: they'd stay in a tie for first in the n

2104
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 7: West with Arizona. Dodgers had essentially a minor league pitcher

2105
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 7: going tonight. In the Big Fox TV game against the Yankees,

2106
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 7: Yanks had four home runs Aaron Judge with his nineteenth

2107
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 7: New York sixt' three to the final in La Garrett

2108
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 7: Cole seven, and oh the win. The loss to Michael Grove,

2109
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 7: who allowed two of the homers gave up four runs

2110
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 7: in five innings. Grove of La did actually lower his

2111
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 7: ERA to eight point one four tonight. As for the

2112
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,600
Speaker 7: other games in progress on FS, one great start in

2113
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,799
Speaker 7: San Diego for you, Darvish Padreser, shutting out the Cubs

2114
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 7: three to nothing in the bottom of the HS two

2115
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 7: hits for the Cubbies. Darvish went seven scoreless innings with

2116
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 7: nine strikeouts, and at San Francisco, bottom of the eighth

2117
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 7: Giants lead Baltimore four to nothing. Cleveland got a four

2118
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 7: to two win at Minnesota. Victories for Houston and Toronto

2119
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 7: and Miami sent Oakland to another loss, twelve to one.

2120
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 7: Kansas City lost again, Colorado went in and beat him

2121
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,679
Speaker 7: six to four. Philadelphia ended a five game losing streak.

2122
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh won its fourth in a row, Texas sixteen to

2123
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 7: six over Seattle. And an update from San Diego. Fernando

2124
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 7: Tatist Junior is just hit a three run homer his

2125
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 7: second long ball tonight. He has eleven home runs. The

2126
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 7: Padre lead now six nothing over the Cubs in the

2127
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 7: bottom of the eighth Stanley Cup Final opener was in

2128
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 7: Vegas Golden Knights five to two over Florida with three

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Speaker 7: goals in the third period. Game two is Monday night.

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Speaker 7: NBA Finals. Game two is Sunday night. Brooklyn Nets are

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Speaker 7: hiring Kevin Ali as an assistant. At the French Open,

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Speaker 7: number six Coco Golf won her third round match and

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Speaker 7: number one Egas Fiantic advanced easily. Golf also won her

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Speaker 7: doubles match. Defending Wimbledon champ Elena Rebakina withdrew before her

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Speaker 7: third rounder due to illness. The Buffalo Bills gave defensive

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Speaker 7: tackle Ed Oliver a four year extension. Rory McElroy has

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Speaker 7: tied for the lead at the memorial. Victor Hovelin is

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Speaker 7: in a group one shot back and did just see

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Speaker 7: Churchill Downs. After this weekend will suspend its current meet

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Speaker 7: after twelve horse fatalities there in the past month. Their

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Speaker 7: final month of race days will be held in Henderson,

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Speaker 7: Kentucky instead, about two hours west.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Seger,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Torres, Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tireraq dot Com studio. So there

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01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 2: was outside of the SEC there. You know, it's interesting, right,

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01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 2: like the SEC, because it's the SEC. It's Nick Say,

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01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 2: but it's Kirby Smart, it's Greg Sankee, it's LSU, it's Florida,

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Speaker 2: it's it's Georgia, it's whatever. They're gonna get the meat

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01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 2: of the headlines. But the more interesting stuff I actually

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01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 2: thought was in the Big Twelve this week, which also

2152
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:47,919
Speaker 2: held conference meetings and where brett Ormark, their commissioner, actually

2153
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 2: shared some pretty interesting information about kind of their their

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01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:56,800
Speaker 2: vision and their goals. And so you know, there are

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01:46:56,800 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 2: a conference that they've been very aggressive, and I think

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01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 2: early on the thought process was not only are they

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Speaker 2: going to target expansion, but they're really looking to add

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01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,839
Speaker 2: the bulk of the Pac twelve, specifically those four corner schools,

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Speaker 2: which are Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and Utah. Why bring

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Speaker 2: it up is and obviously it's a story that I'm

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01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 2: following closely because Miama Mater Yukon has been linked to

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01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve. But if you pay close attention, it

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01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 2: appears as though not only does it appear the Big

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01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 2: Twelve actually seems to be prioritizing basketball schools in this

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Speaker 2: round of realignment, not only Yukon, but Gonzaga, San Diego

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01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 2: State and Brett Ormark on the record talked about it

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01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 2: yesterday like there was a media availability, and he said,

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Speaker 2: we do see the upside in basketball moving forward. We

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Speaker 2: think it's undervalued. There's a chance for us to double

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Speaker 2: down as the number one basketball conference in America. Football

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Speaker 2: is the driver, and we all know that we're exploring

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01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 2: all options and all considerations at this point in time.

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Speaker 2: So Jayson, again, obviously Miama mat involved. So I have

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Speaker 2: a lot of thoughts. But when you hear that the

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Speaker 2: Big Twelve I think is really taking a different approach

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Speaker 2: than maybe I'm not exactly gonna say, it's like maybe

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Speaker 2: anybody has ever taken, at least at the power conference level,

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Speaker 2: is since realignment really kind of ramped up ten twelve

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Speaker 2: years ago. I think it's fascinating. I got a lot

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Speaker 2: of thoughts, but curious to here what you have to say.

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Speaker 3: I think it's brilliant.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why is because there's no move that

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Speaker 4: you can make that's gonna make you the SEC in

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Speaker 4: college football. There's no move out there that's gonna make

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Speaker 4: you the Big Ten in college football. Once Oklahoma and

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Speaker 4: Texas leave, you're bringing in some nice schools. And I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying that you can't do anything. I'm saying that

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Speaker 4: you can go own a sport or that's your idea.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I grew up on Tobacco Road, so I

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01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 4: know what it's like to be in a basketball rich area.

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Speaker 4: Now it was different then, no question about it.

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Speaker 3: But the ACC we didn't really care that.

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Speaker 4: Much about college football like in the areas I grew

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Speaker 4: up with. It was college basketball season twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 4: three sixty five that we were talking about we were

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Speaker 4: selling out high school basketball games more than we were

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Speaker 4: high school football games to watch all of those things.

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Speaker 4: You look at the Big Twelve, You look at the

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Speaker 4: schools that they already have right now, even the ones

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Speaker 4: that they're acquiring. You have some basketball rich schools coming in.

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Speaker 4: If you did bring in Gazaga as a basketball only member,

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Speaker 4: if you brought in Yukon, if you looked at it

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01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 4: from that perspective, you're trying to create this top flight

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Speaker 4: basketball conference and you can own that sport because you're

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01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,640
Speaker 4: not going to own college football either way. Like, so

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01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 4: he's thinking outside the box and saying, let's go find

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01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 4: a piece of this and we can really, you know,

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01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 4: make our bones here. This might be the way that

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Speaker 4: we survive is to go own another part of the

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Speaker 4: landscape that's not being touched. Like I'll make a quick argument, Yeah,

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01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 4: very important one. But like I look at some of

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Speaker 4: the successes on the political side, in editorial content and

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01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 4: particul some that we may know very well that we

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01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 4: may have worked for at a time or two. But

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Speaker 4: you look at I looked at it from a.

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Speaker 3: Business plan perspective.

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Speaker 4: If the perception is almost the entire media is all

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01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 4: on one side of the political aisle. If I'm just

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01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 4: a pure businessman, if I'm trying to survive and thrive

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01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 4: and feed my family and all this, irrespective of my beliefs,

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01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 4: how deeply held they are or whatever. I'm looking at

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01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 4: it from a purely business perspective, I can just go

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01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 4: be a part of that pie. Or I can go

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Speaker 4: the completely opposite side, where there's almost nothing there, and

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01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,679
Speaker 4: I can control fifty to sixty percent of that pie,

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01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 4: and almost all of the audience is going to flock

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Speaker 4: to me that's looking for that content. So I can

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Speaker 4: go and try to swim with the sharks where there's

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01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 4: where it's already oversaturated and where I'm way behind, or

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01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 4: I can go a completely different route and try to

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Speaker 4: succeed there. So I like this idea. I think it

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01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:01,799
Speaker 4: makes a lot of business sense. It's smart, and it's compelling.

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Speaker 2: So I'm intrigued and interested in And that's why i

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01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 2: wanted to kind of set you up on it, because

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Speaker 2: again Mi Alma Mater, being involved, I've paid extra close

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Speaker 2: attention to it. And you know, first of all, some

2237
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 2: of you have asked me privately publicly whatever I wish

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01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:19,040
Speaker 2: you kind could stay in the Big East forever. I

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Speaker 2: also understand that to run an athletic department at the

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Speaker 2: highest level, and it's not just football, because I think

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Speaker 2: from the U Cut perspective, Oh, they tried to do

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01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 2: the football thing one time and they left the Big

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01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 2: East once. Well, it's like, no, the Biggest kind of

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01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 2: kicked them out because they had a football team and

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01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 2: the Biggest wasn't gonna basically sponsor football. But I bring

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Speaker 2: it up because I'm obviously paying close attention to this,

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01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 2: and so I actually think your line of thinking is

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01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 2: in line with their line of thinking, and I am

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01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 2: with you that it is brilliant. Is that, first of all,

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Speaker 2: it is a bigger piece of like like two things. One,

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Speaker 2: as you said, there is no school that you can

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01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 2: get outside of note of which isn't company of the

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01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 2: Big twelve. There's no school that you can get that

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01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:08,639
Speaker 2: is going to elevate the football product that much. Now,

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Speaker 2: a Utah's good, Whoever's good, Washington's good, whatever, Oregon's good,

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Speaker 2: but you're not gonna get those huge brands who replace

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Speaker 2: Texas in Oklahoma. But a few things stand out. One,

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01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:22,799
Speaker 2: I do think we've gotten to the point where basketball

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01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 2: is a little bit underserved. And even if it's only

2260
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament, we're talking about like an eight hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars a year. That's like what the that's what

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01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:33,640
Speaker 2: the TV money is. So there's that part of it.

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01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 2: And then two and somebody kind of put this bug

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Speaker 2: in my ear over the course of the last week

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Speaker 2: or so, is that listen At some point, probably if

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01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 2: you're reading the tea leaves, the ACC probably isn't gonna

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01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 2: survive and it might be a while whatever. But if

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten gets the four to five teams that

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Speaker 2: they want and the SEC gets the four five teams

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01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 2: that they want, then you're at twenty twenty four teams each.

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01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 2: So probably you know, forty to forty eight teams between

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01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 2: the two conferences. At that point in theory, they could

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01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 2: break off in all sports, not just football. They could

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01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 2: break off in all sports and do their own thing.

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01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 2: And so what somebody kind of pointed out to me

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Speaker 2: this week is the one thing that you said is

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Speaker 2: that you're never gonna be the SEC or even the

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01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 2: Big ten in football. And that's okay. By the way,

2279
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 2: you had a team that played for a championship last year,

2280
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:25,799
Speaker 2: so you're not nobody, but two, if you position yourself

2281
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 2: as the elite basketball conference with Kansas, with maybe a Yukon,

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01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:34,600
Speaker 2: with maybe a Gonzaga, with maybe an Arizona. If that

2283
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 2: it's one of the Pac twelve schools that you target,

2284
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:40,679
Speaker 2: then if in eight or ten years or whenever, the

2285
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:42,959
Speaker 2: SEC and the Big Ten try to break away completely,

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01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 2: they can't run a real basketball tournament without you, And

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01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 2: now you have to be included. You might not be

2288
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 2: the it might not be the Big Three, it might

2289
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 2: be the Big two and a half, but you're at

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01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 2: least included in that conversation, Jason, So, I know we

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01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 2: gotta get to break I know we gotta get to Disagrea.

2292
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 2: But that is the thinking real quick before we get

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01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 2: out of here. Anything else to add to.

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01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 3: That, No, man, I think that's really well said.

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01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 4: That. That last point's really smart too, just and I

2296
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 4: hadn't even thought about it from that perspective, It's like, Yeah,

2297
01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 4: you can't run a tournament without Kansas, Gonzaga, UKN Like

2298
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 4: what are you doing? Like that that you may survive

2299
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 4: because they have to have you involved on the basketball side.

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Speaker 4: If nothing else that, I just think this is a

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Speaker 4: very very intriguing thought from the Big twelve, and it's

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Speaker 4: one that looks like, hey, we're gonna find a way

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01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 4: to survive, and if we got to do it this way, that's.

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Speaker 3: What we'll do.

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Speaker 2: Don't disagree, And yeah, I think I think it's fascinating

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01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 2: to think about. And for people who say, oh, they

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01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 2: would never break up the NCAA tournament, well just remember

2308
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 2: Greg Sanki already last year was trying to push, hey,

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01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 2: do we really need automatic bits to the NCAA tournament

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01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 2: or should we just pick the sixty eight best. He's

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01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 2: already trying to finagle away to eliminate automatic bits. Give

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01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 2: him another eight ten years to continue to build that

2313
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 2: power and continue build up the SEC. I have no

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01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 2: doubt he will continue to try to do that. We'll

2315
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 2: see if he has success. Fox Sports Radio Eritors Jason

2316
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 2: Martin coming up. We are going to toss it over

2317
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 2: to the Saga. He's got his extended update. Always love

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01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 2: catching up with the Sager. Bottom half of the nine

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Speaker 2: o'clock hour, We'll be back Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er Torris Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com Studios. Just had a thriller. By

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01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 2: the way, in college baseball, Stanford had the bases loaded

2323
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 2: down three with a chance to win the game. Flyout

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01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 2: A and M wins enough for me to saga, please

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01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 2: take it away with my friend.

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Speaker 7: We may be mentioning that sport again.

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Speaker 2: In just a moment.

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Speaker 7: We did mention Ronald Acunya in the incredible season he's

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Speaker 7: already having for the Braves. He had a home run

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Speaker 7: estimated it's four hundred and sixty four feet that cleared

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01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 7: the outfield seats at Arizona. The great researcher Sarah Langs

2332
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 7: had an item by the way, if you're unfamiliar with

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01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,840
Speaker 7: the name, she was honored on the field before Mets

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01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 7: game this weekend with her battle against als. She is

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01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 7: still working, and she tweets tonight that Acunya, now in

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01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:13,560
Speaker 7: his career, has ten home runs of at least four

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Speaker 7: hundred and sixty eet so.

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01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 3: Fad especially when you look at like his size.

2339
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 4: It's not like he's Pee Alonzo or somebody like that

2340
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 4: like that, he shouldn't be able to do this.

2341
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 3: It's so awesome.

2342
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 7: And tonight he hit his twelfth homer and stole his

2343
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 7: twenty fourth.

2344
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 2: Base of the season already.

2345
01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 7: So the Braves up five to two at Arizona, bottom

2346
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 7: of the ninth, ready to end the six game winning

2347
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 7: streak of the Diamondback. Speaking of streaks at Triple A

2348
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 7: in the Angel System, at Salt Lake City tonight, Michael

2349
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 7: Stefanik singled in the first inning. He extends the franchise

2350
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:48,880
Speaker 7: record on bay streak to fifty eight fifty eight straight

2351
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 7: games he's gotten aboard without failing. This is a five

2352
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 7: foot eight middle infielder who's batting about three twenty at

2353
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 7: Triple A this year in the Angel System, and he's

2354
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 7: from a small college in southern California, Westmont, a school

2355
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 7: that just last night won the Small College World Series

2356
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 7: in the NAIA. I know this because my nephew had

2357
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 7: two RBIs in the six and of course I'm a

2358
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 7: proud uncle. He also in the semifinal had the go

2359
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 7: ahead two run single and in the quarterfinal the go

2360
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 7: ahead two run homers. So it was quite a magical

2361
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 7: week for him, final days of his college career.

2362
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 4: He went out like l Way.

2363
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 7: As for the college baseball it's it's been a great

2364
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 7: weekend already and we're just starting the NCAA tournament. Santa

2365
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 7: Clara has eliminated Arizona. The Wildcats are done. I believe

2366
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 7: aight assists for Steve Nash and nine to three the final. Wow,

2367
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 7: now it's a Monday night. Also, are you on with

2368
01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 7: Arnie h I believe so yah okay, sol Im yes, yes,

2369
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 7: and tomorrow and Monday but tomorrow money okay. If we

2370
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 7: look forward to this in this slot the next two nights,

2371
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 7: I'm sure this may or may not come up.

2372
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 2: Lead the show with it tomorrow?

2373
01:57:58,320 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 4: Why not?

2374
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 7: Oregon one at Vanderbilt tonight eight seven. Texas won at Miami.

2375
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 7: I saw this today, Dallas Baptist eliminating Oklahoma State and

2376
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 7: the score was eighteen to four. They may as well

2377
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 7: have had the mascot pitching at the end. Southern Miss

2378
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 7: eliminated Auburn, Texas Tech won at number two Florida today

2379
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 7: and the wild Game Tennessee winning in fourteen innings at

2380
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 7: Clemson six to five. Vegas with a comeback win to

2381
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 7: open the Stanley Cup Final tonight. They have overcome a

2382
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 7: deficit to win this postseason nine times. Last year, Colorado

2383
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:36,640
Speaker 7: did so ten times. On the way to the Cup.

2384
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 7: We have NBA coaching news plenty of it. Phoenix is

2385
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 7: gonna keep its top assistant Kevin Young. ESPN says he

2386
01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 7: stays and will now earn a league high two million

2387
01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 7: dollars or so to stay.

2388
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 2: Frank Vogel won eighth of money Williams salary.

2389
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, Frank Vogel's contract not quite that, so it is

2390
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:56,720
Speaker 7: notable what he stays to be on the same bench

2391
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 7: with Vogel, who's the new Son's head coach. Monty Williams

2392
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 7: was let go by Phoenix, now in Detroit for historic riches,

2393
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 7: but he will not be taking Young, who was a

2394
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 7: finalist for the Sun's job. The Brooklyn Nets are hiring

2395
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 7: Kevin Ali as an assistant. He was up for the

2396
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 7: Pistons head coaching job. Oli, of course, coach the University

2397
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 7: of Connecticut to the NCAAA crown almost a decade ago.

2398
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:19,520
Speaker 7: Now he'll work for Nets coach Jack Vaughn. Both are

2399
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 7: from southern California. Former Trailblazers head coach Terry Stotts is

2400
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 7: finalizing a deal to be an assistant in Milwaukee. According

2401
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 7: to ESPN, too be on the staff of new coach

2402
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 7: Adrian Griffin, and New Orleans has added James Brego to

2403
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 7: the coaching staff from Charlotte. The Pelicans retained assistant Jaron Collins,

2404
01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 7: who was a finalist in Detroit. And by the way,

2405
01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:43,160
Speaker 7: the next Julius Randall had ankle surgery. Should be ready

2406
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 7: for fall camp. Game two of the NBA Finals Sunday night.

2407
01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve to say you appreciate all

2408
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 2: those updates. Fox Sports Radio Aeron Tors Jason Martin broadcasting

2409
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 2: live from the tyreck dot com studios here with the

2410
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 2: saga coming up. It's the story of baseball. We'll discuss it.

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Speaker 2: A's to Vegas. Not so fast, my friend, Fox sportsty

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, hour four. Fox Sports Radio Aaron Torris

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tirec dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: our new newest affiliate in Peoria, Illinois, Peoria Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: one oh one point one. Welcome to the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio family. There, Chicago White Sox Radio Network affiliate and

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Speaker 2: program director Scott Heckethom dropped another network to make the

2422
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Speaker 2: flip to Fox Sports a big win for them. So

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Speaker 2: welcome to the Fox Sports Radio family. Peoria Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: one oh one point one, Jason por Sports Radio one

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Speaker 2: on one point one is where you can listen to

2426
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Speaker 2: Chicago White Sox their AL wuldn't really call them rivals,

2427
02:01:04,680 --> 02:01:07,720
Speaker 2: but another team in the AL. I guess what I'm

2428
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:10,120
Speaker 2: trying to get to is this on Peoria one to

2429
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 2: one point one. Will they be listening to Chicago White

2430
02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:18,160
Speaker 2: Sox games against the Las Vegas A's in the coming months.

2431
02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 2: And here's the deal. By the way, Bernie Fraddle is

2432
02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 2: gonna join us in twenty minutes. He is gonna have

2433
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 2: incredible insight into the behind the scenes of what is

2434
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:28,880
Speaker 2: actually going on in Vegas. But what Bernie has told

2435
02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 2: us for weeks now is that while you know there's

2436
02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 2: headlines and there's this, and there's that, is that behind

2437
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 2: the scenes there isn't as much of an appetite for

2438
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:43,960
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball in Vegas as maybe many people think. Again,

2439
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:45,839
Speaker 2: Bernie is gonna have all the details and we cannot

2440
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:50,240
Speaker 2: wait to hear from them, But just reading reports, there's

2441
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 2: a Nevada state assembly woman named Danielle Monroe Moreno, who

2442
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 2: seems to be really pushing against this. My guess is

2443
02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 2: for all the reasons that Bernie has said. They just

2444
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 2: built a new basketball arena, They built the new football

2445
02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:08,880
Speaker 2: stadium with public funding. And you need the football stadium

2446
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:10,760
Speaker 2: to be able to host Super Bowls like Vegas will

2447
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:13,440
Speaker 2: host next year, to host Final Fours, to have a

2448
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:15,680
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift concert like they did over the last couple

2449
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:19,160
Speaker 2: of weeks. But a thirty thousand seat baseball stadium on

2450
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 2: the Strip feels like a luxury, and it seems as

2451
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:25,640
Speaker 2: though they're having trouble getting public support behind it. Finally,

2452
02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 2: I would add really quick, and I know this is

2453
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 2: just a small sample size, but I think you know this.

2454
02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:33,080
Speaker 2: But but my mom, I love her, just celebrated her

2455
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 2: birthday on Thursday. She is she has a winter home

2456
02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:38,960
Speaker 2: in Vegas, and even just talking with her this week

2457
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:41,680
Speaker 2: is she said, like, you know, she hangs out with

2458
02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 2: all sorts of people in the community, and it doesn't

2459
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:47,720
Speaker 2: feel as though there is a real want for baseball

2460
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:49,600
Speaker 2: in Vegas. So we go in a lot of different

2461
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:51,920
Speaker 2: directions here, Jason, We've talked about this a lot, But

2462
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:55,440
Speaker 2: this feels like they're getting a lot more pushback than

2463
02:02:55,480 --> 02:03:00,400
Speaker 2: I think maybe they anticipated, and I don't think it happen,

2464
02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:02,440
Speaker 2: will it not. Bernie'll give us the percentages here in

2465
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:05,160
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, But I just don't feel like this is

2466
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:07,240
Speaker 2: nearly as much of a slam dunk as it felt

2467
02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:09,360
Speaker 2: like maybe two three weeks ago, at least publicly.

2468
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:12,400
Speaker 4: It certainly was being reported like it was already done.

2469
02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 4: I know, and to his credit, no shock here. Bernie

2470
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:22,320
Speaker 4: has been very kind of He hasn't been skeptical, but

2471
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:24,840
Speaker 4: he's been much more realistic in saying, hey, there's still

2472
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 4: a lot of hurdles that need to be overcome in

2473
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:30,680
Speaker 4: order to make this thing happen. Let's calm down, let's

2474
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:33,520
Speaker 4: slow down. We don't need to get into fifth gear here.

2475
02:03:33,560 --> 02:03:35,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna end up with the speeding ticket if we're

2476
02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:39,800
Speaker 4: not careful. And the more that we have learned, and

2477
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:43,200
Speaker 4: you just laid it out very well, the less likely

2478
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:47,960
Speaker 4: and less less effective. It feels like it would be

2479
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:49,680
Speaker 4: as well. Like to your point about your mom and

2480
02:03:49,720 --> 02:03:55,200
Speaker 4: happy birthday to her, I just don't since there's this

2481
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:57,760
Speaker 4: giant fervor for baseball there, and I think The weird

2482
02:03:57,800 --> 02:03:59,680
Speaker 4: thing about it is if you're going to move the

2483
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 4: a move them somewhere that really wants a team, move

2484
02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 4: them to a market that's going to support a team

2485
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:09,200
Speaker 4: that and we've talked about this before that you know,

2486
02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 4: a lot of the things that we're going to start see,

2487
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:15,520
Speaker 4: I believe, are stadiums that are going to be built

2488
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 4: for an experience as opposed to five hundred thousand seats

2489
02:04:20,360 --> 02:04:24,320
Speaker 4: because things have changed. People want amenities, they want different things,

2490
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 4: so you don't necessarily have to have a fifty thousand

2491
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:29,760
Speaker 4: seat building or something like that. You can put this

2492
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 4: in the right place and you can, you know, really

2493
02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:36,720
Speaker 4: make a brand new community in Vegas. I just feel

2494
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:41,520
Speaker 4: like baseball becomes an afterthought. They've got the Raiders, they've

2495
02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 4: got the Golden Knights right now playing in the Stanley Cup.

2496
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:47,960
Speaker 4: They've still got UNLV, Like they have a lot, and

2497
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:50,560
Speaker 4: that's not to even mention everything that's not sports related

2498
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:51,720
Speaker 4: that's going on there.

2499
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 3: Of course, they have all the boxing, have.

2500
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:57,240
Speaker 4: MMA, they got AWNWWE coming there multiple times a year,

2501
02:04:57,320 --> 02:04:59,800
Speaker 4: Like you have all of these things that are there competing,

2502
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:03,120
Speaker 4: and baseball just seems like it would just kind of

2503
02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:04,760
Speaker 4: come there and it would be like, all right, yeah,

2504
02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 4: Vegas has got baseball, but it wouldn't matter in the

2505
02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 4: grand scheme. And you're not getting the Yankees, you're not

2506
02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 4: getting the Dodgers. You're not getting one of those kind

2507
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:14,400
Speaker 4: of franchises either. You're getting a twelve win as team

2508
02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 4: right now.

2509
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:16,040
Speaker 3: So obviously the fervor is.

2510
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 4: Gonna be even lower, maybe than it would be if

2511
02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:21,960
Speaker 4: you're getting a franchise that was rolling. But you're very

2512
02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:25,839
Speaker 4: likely never going to have that happen anywhere. Because franchise

2513
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:28,040
Speaker 4: is rolling, it's probably being supported, and the idea that

2514
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 4: they're going to leave under those circumstances is much more,

2515
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:33,960
Speaker 4: you know, it's much more dire, it's much more unlikely.

2516
02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:36,800
Speaker 4: So I just look at it, and I can't wait

2517
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:39,200
Speaker 4: to hear what Bernie's got and what he wants to

2518
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:42,840
Speaker 4: say tonight about this whole situation. But I am now

2519
02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:45,080
Speaker 4: increasingly of the belief that this ain't happening.

2520
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:49,760
Speaker 2: So a couple things here and one we can get

2521
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 2: them into all the nuance here in a minute. But

2522
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:57,080
Speaker 2: like something that I keep coming back to is, first

2523
02:05:57,080 --> 02:05:59,960
Speaker 2: of all, I get it's major League Baseball, and there's

2524
02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 2: only thirty of these things these only thirty of these

2525
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:05,880
Speaker 2: teams and thirty of these opportunities really for lack of

2526
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 2: a better term, but I keep going back to if

2527
02:06:10,640 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 2: you have seen the way the A's have been run

2528
02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:19,080
Speaker 2: over the past X number of years, and it's been

2529
02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:22,240
Speaker 2: a while now, they've had good years where they've overachieved

2530
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:27,640
Speaker 2: relative to the payroll and the perceived talent. But I mean,

2531
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 2: they're by far the worst team in Major League Baseball

2532
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,480
Speaker 2: this year. And I think that's part of it, right,

2533
02:06:33,640 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 2: is like this isn't the NFL where you can go

2534
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:38,840
Speaker 2: from war. First of all, it's just not the NFL

2535
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 2: in terms of fan interist whatever, blah blah blah, but

2536
02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:44,880
Speaker 2: NFL worse to first, you know, every every NFL team

2537
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:48,320
Speaker 2: has something like there's just something interesting about every NFL

2538
02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:54,440
Speaker 2: team major League Baseball, ain't that? And so to expect

2539
02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:58,760
Speaker 2: like Vegas to be like like to expect Vegas just

2540
02:06:59,120 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 2: the commune to be excited and to embrace this team

2541
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:06,360
Speaker 2: that they have no affiliation with. The Golden Knights came there,

2542
02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:08,040
Speaker 2: Golden Knights too, one game one of the Stanley Cup

2543
02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:10,400
Speaker 2: Finals day. By the way, they came there. They weren't

2544
02:07:10,440 --> 02:07:13,560
Speaker 2: somewhere else before that was the city's team from the beginning.

2545
02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 2: So it's one thing to have a team move there.

2546
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 2: It's another thing to have a team that is actively

2547
02:07:19,520 --> 02:07:22,200
Speaker 2: trying to lose in their current spot, has not been

2548
02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:24,680
Speaker 2: even trying to put a competitive field on the team,

2549
02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:28,440
Speaker 2: a competitive team on the field, and you're supposed to

2550
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:32,880
Speaker 2: be excited about one just bringing them in, but then

2551
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:37,360
Speaker 2: two using public funding to build a stadium. Like I

2552
02:07:37,520 --> 02:07:41,280
Speaker 2: just I don't want to oversell, but I don't want

2553
02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:44,160
Speaker 2: to undersell this point either. As to your point, if

2554
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:47,880
Speaker 2: the A's were h you know, forty games above five

2555
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:50,800
Speaker 2: hundred and trending towards whatever, maybe they're not even in

2556
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 2: a position to move or in a need to move.

2557
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:54,880
Speaker 2: But that is part of it. On top of all

2558
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:56,440
Speaker 2: the other stuff that we've talked about, the things to

2559
02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:59,840
Speaker 2: do in Vegas. A summer sport, you're asking traveling fans

2560
02:07:59,840 --> 02:08:02,000
Speaker 2: to commit to three or four straight knights at the ballpark.

2561
02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:05,000
Speaker 2: That's what I keep coming back to. If I lived

2562
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 2: in Vegas, if I was a taxpayer, and they're saying, oh,

2563
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:09,160
Speaker 2: by the way, we need to we need to tax

2564
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:10,880
Speaker 2: you more to build this stadium to bring in this

2565
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:13,640
Speaker 2: team that isn't even trying to win. I don't know,

2566
02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:17,920
Speaker 2: It's just something doesn't feel right. And I'm so glad

2567
02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 2: we have Bernie on in the next segment to contextualize

2568
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 2: all this. But something just doesn't feel right. And I

2569
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:27,680
Speaker 2: can understand consternation concern from the lawmakers and the citizens

2570
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 2: of Las Vegas.

2571
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I just look kinded and just objectively,

2572
02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:34,560
Speaker 4: you say, does Vegas kneed baseball?

2573
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:37,440
Speaker 3: And I think the answer is no.

2574
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:41,800
Speaker 4: I mean, you think about when New Orleans got the

2575
02:08:41,880 --> 02:08:45,920
Speaker 4: Hornets for a little while, and you saw how they

2576
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:48,360
Speaker 4: rallied around that team and made them home, and they

2577
02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:49,600
Speaker 4: were like, hey, we want to give you a team.

2578
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:51,040
Speaker 4: We want to find a way even though we're gonna

2579
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:53,880
Speaker 4: send the Hornets back x y Z, we want to

2580
02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:56,200
Speaker 4: help you guys out. And you look at something like

2581
02:08:56,280 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 4: even though it's gonna upset Seattle fans, Oklahoma City have

2582
02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:03,360
Speaker 4: anything else. And so one of the great environments in

2583
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:06,960
Speaker 4: the NBA is Oklahoma City. It's loud city for a reason,

2584
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:10,960
Speaker 4: like it's it's it's amazing, And you look at that,

2585
02:09:11,080 --> 02:09:12,680
Speaker 4: Is that going to be that way in Vegas? No,

2586
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 4: Like you want to if you want to move the a's,

2587
02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:18,720
Speaker 4: you want to move the A's or any franchise to

2588
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:21,320
Speaker 4: a place where they're going to be supported, beloved, all

2589
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:23,360
Speaker 4: of this, and you're telling a bunch of people that

2590
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:26,320
Speaker 4: I don't think felt the need for baseball to begin with.

2591
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:28,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, by the way, we also want you to

2592
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:31,240
Speaker 4: pay for it. It's like, heck, no, Like, if you

2593
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:33,960
Speaker 4: want to bring baseball here, you'll pay for it, and

2594
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 4: then if I want to go see it and support it,

2595
02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:38,920
Speaker 4: then I will. But don't ask me to pay higher

2596
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 4: property taxes or higher taxes to help you build a

2597
02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 4: stadium for something I didn't necessarily feel like I was

2598
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:48,480
Speaker 4: missing to begin with. There are communities that would love this,

2599
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:50,760
Speaker 4: embrace it, bring it in and it would be huge.

2600
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 4: They'd celebrate it. Vegas, Nah, man like this, this would

2601
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:57,440
Speaker 4: be a blip on the radar, I feel like.

2602
02:09:57,720 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 2: And it's a point that Bernie's brought up many times.

2603
02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:04,680
Speaker 2: Is the idea that you know, Salt Lake City, Portland, Nashville,

2604
02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:08,000
Speaker 2: you know, they have a baseball committee where they're trying

2605
02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:11,320
Speaker 2: to rally interest and rally whatever. And I'm with you,

2606
02:10:11,480 --> 02:10:13,280
Speaker 2: and I think it goes to the point that I

2607
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:15,880
Speaker 2: just made. But then also the ones that we've talked

2608
02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:18,160
Speaker 2: about which is the one that I keep coming back

2609
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 2: to is to ask. You know, first of all, and

2610
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:25,720
Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong on this, I think the idea of

2611
02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:30,480
Speaker 2: trying to relocate any team or put any team in

2612
02:10:30,560 --> 02:10:35,160
Speaker 2: any city with the hope that visiting fans are gonna

2613
02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:37,640
Speaker 2: be the ones who do a large bulk of the

2614
02:10:37,720 --> 02:10:40,760
Speaker 2: supporting like one, I just think that's fundamentally like not

2615
02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:43,600
Speaker 2: a smart decision. But then on top of that, I

2616
02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:46,080
Speaker 2: keep going back to you mentioned New Orleans. You mentioned

2617
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:48,920
Speaker 2: the Hornets when they first got there. That's one game

2618
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:51,600
Speaker 2: a week on a Tuesday, and then maybe you get

2619
02:10:51,600 --> 02:10:54,760
Speaker 2: a Saturday or a Friday, and then the following Monday.

2620
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:59,800
Speaker 2: Baseball to ask fans to come into town three nights.

2621
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:02,480
Speaker 2: It was funny. I was talking to a buddy about

2622
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 2: this day, Like, I have buddies who are die hard

2623
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:05,600
Speaker 2: baseball fans.

2624
02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:05,760
Speaker 10: You know.

2625
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:08,200
Speaker 2: A year ago I went to a bachelor party in

2626
02:11:08,280 --> 02:11:11,040
Speaker 2: Vegas with some of the biggest baseball people that you

2627
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:14,840
Speaker 2: would ever meet. But even my buddies, like when they

2628
02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 2: go to Vegas, your buddies, whoever friends whatever. Yeah, even

2629
02:11:19,640 --> 02:11:22,160
Speaker 2: if your team's in town, you want to go, but

2630
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:24,800
Speaker 2: for a game, you want to gamble you want to

2631
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:26,879
Speaker 2: eat out, you want to stay at the pool, especially

2632
02:11:26,960 --> 02:11:29,520
Speaker 2: during the summertime when the weather's nights. Like that's the

2633
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:31,720
Speaker 2: part that comes back to me. It's one thing if

2634
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:35,000
Speaker 2: you're the Golden Knights and you're hoping, Hey, the Edmonton

2635
02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:36,800
Speaker 2: Oilers are in town and we think they're gonna bring

2636
02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:38,840
Speaker 2: a pretty big crew and they're gonna spend money, and

2637
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:40,960
Speaker 2: that's gonna be great. That's fine. That's one night that

2638
02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:43,040
Speaker 2: you're asking of them. And if the Golden Knights are

2639
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:46,240
Speaker 2: playing Edmonton on a Friday night, that still gives them

2640
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:48,640
Speaker 2: Thursday and Saturday and maybe Sunday to do what they

2641
02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:51,400
Speaker 2: want outside of the hockey arena. But if you're the

2642
02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:55,120
Speaker 2: Oakland A's and the Seattle Mariners are coming into town

2643
02:11:55,160 --> 02:11:57,560
Speaker 2: and you expect Mariners fans to pack a park three

2644
02:11:57,680 --> 02:11:59,840
Speaker 2: nights in a row when they're on vacation, I don't know,

2645
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:02,840
Speaker 2: it's just it just it hasn't even happened yet, and

2646
02:12:02,920 --> 02:12:05,600
Speaker 2: just the whole concept feels fundamentally flawed to me.

2647
02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 4: Jason, Yeah, I mean I think there's there's another thing

2648
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:12,000
Speaker 4: I think about, is like, how many day games are

2649
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:12,880
Speaker 4: you gonna try to play?

2650
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:14,240
Speaker 3: None?

2651
02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:16,880
Speaker 4: Like, if you're not playing to night, I don't know.

2652
02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:18,160
Speaker 3: How you're getting anybody there at all.

2653
02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:19,960
Speaker 4: To the point about the pool and all that kind

2654
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 4: of stuff, maybe you can attract a little bit more

2655
02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:24,840
Speaker 4: of that after dark, at least, I mean the gambling crowd. Now,

2656
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:27,400
Speaker 4: there's still plenty to do obviously at night in Sin City,

2657
02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:30,960
Speaker 4: but I feel like day games would be up abject

2658
02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:35,000
Speaker 4: disasters there. And again, this is not sixteen regulars seventeen

2659
02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 4: regular season games, I guess now in the NFL, it's

2660
02:12:37,480 --> 02:12:40,960
Speaker 4: not even an eighty two game hockey season or NBA season.

2661
02:12:41,560 --> 02:12:43,760
Speaker 3: This is a bunch of home games.

2662
02:12:43,800 --> 02:12:46,920
Speaker 4: This is eighty some home games like eighty that you've

2663
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:49,400
Speaker 4: got to sell your team goes on the road. You know,

2664
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:51,520
Speaker 4: I maybe I sit home and I watch a few

2665
02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:55,160
Speaker 4: innings of Vegas Baseball, if I'm at all a sports

2666
02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:57,640
Speaker 4: fan and I've got the time or whatever. But it

2667
02:12:57,760 --> 02:13:01,240
Speaker 4: just doesn't seem like there's no not a need for it.

2668
02:13:01,320 --> 02:13:03,560
Speaker 4: And if there's not a need for it, then moving

2669
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:05,720
Speaker 4: it there it just seems like a move that doesn't

2670
02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:06,440
Speaker 4: need to happen.

2671
02:13:06,720 --> 02:13:09,440
Speaker 2: Well, there's not a need for it, and increasingly it

2672
02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:11,160
Speaker 2: feels like there might not be a want for it.

2673
02:13:11,200 --> 02:13:13,320
Speaker 2: But thankfully. That is what we have Bernie Fratto for.

2674
02:13:13,400 --> 02:13:16,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna join us next to discuss at all. Before

2675
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:17,560
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Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto and he will give you the insight on

2682
02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:41,280
Speaker 2: everything going on with the a's Is it real? Is

2683
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Speaker 2: it not? Fact from fiction? Nobody better Bernie Fraddo.

2684
02:13:44,360 --> 02:13:44,600
Speaker 3: Next.

2685
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio eritoris

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02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:03,360
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Speaker 2: As we do every week, We're gonna head out to

2693
02:14:28,200 --> 02:14:31,680
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Bernie Fratdo of the Bernie Frado Show joins us,

2694
02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:35,400
Speaker 2: and here's the million dollar question, Bernie, when we throw

2695
02:14:35,400 --> 02:14:39,120
Speaker 2: out to Vegas in a year or two or five,

2696
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:42,440
Speaker 2: are we gonna be throwing out to Bernie Frado wearing

2697
02:14:42,480 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 2: a Las Vegas as hat or is that just totally

2698
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:47,960
Speaker 2: in the can We just spent ten minutes talking about it,

2699
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:50,880
Speaker 2: but we we can't really have any conversation about anything

2700
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:54,120
Speaker 2: Vegas related without getting your inside, Bernie, what do we

2701
02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:58,120
Speaker 2: need to know about the ongoing Vegas a situation?

2702
02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:02,000
Speaker 10: It's funny you mentioned five five years because for what

2703
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:05,920
Speaker 10: it's worth, even if the bill is passed by the legislature,

2704
02:15:06,720 --> 02:15:09,120
Speaker 10: it's merely a first step. You've got to get the

2705
02:15:09,200 --> 02:15:14,280
Speaker 10: stadium construction aspect of it solved. They've got to negotiate

2706
02:15:14,480 --> 02:15:16,800
Speaker 10: a stadium authority lease. They got to get a community

2707
02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:20,400
Speaker 10: benefits agreement. That's going to extend this by another twelve months.

2708
02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:23,760
Speaker 10: So now the deadline date or check that that's not

2709
02:15:23,800 --> 02:15:27,440
Speaker 10: the correct word. Now the prospective date is twenty twenty eight.

2710
02:15:27,560 --> 02:15:30,960
Speaker 10: It's been backed up a year. So this past week

2711
02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:34,200
Speaker 10: they finally did introduce Bill five oh nine. The clock

2712
02:15:34,320 --> 02:15:36,280
Speaker 10: is taking there's no vote yet to the best of

2713
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:41,520
Speaker 10: my knowledge. June fifth, Monday, the legislative session adjourns. But

2714
02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:45,000
Speaker 10: now the bill's being heard in various committees like the

2715
02:15:45,040 --> 02:15:48,480
Speaker 10: Senate Revenue Committee and the Senate Finance Committee. You've got

2716
02:15:48,560 --> 02:15:51,839
Speaker 10: lawmakers weighing in, lobbyists weighing in members of the public,

2717
02:15:52,280 --> 02:15:57,600
Speaker 10: and the rhetoric has been pretty brutal. It's been very contentious,

2718
02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:04,400
Speaker 10: it's been very hotly debated, and we really don't have

2719
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:06,480
Speaker 10: enough time to even scratch the service. But let me

2720
02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:10,640
Speaker 10: lead with what I think is the most notable aspect

2721
02:16:10,640 --> 02:16:12,640
Speaker 10: of this, and that has to do with the National

2722
02:16:12,800 --> 02:16:16,920
Speaker 10: Education Association Southern Nevada Chapter. A lady by the name

2723
02:16:16,920 --> 02:16:20,640
Speaker 10: of Vicki Kradell pointed out to the committee that currently

2724
02:16:20,720 --> 02:16:24,920
Speaker 10: Nevada ranks forty eighth among fifty states in public school funding.

2725
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:30,520
Speaker 10: There are teacher shortages, educational program shortages, and she went

2726
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:33,360
Speaker 10: on to say, and she wasn't being funny, that Nevada

2727
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:35,520
Speaker 10: was the only state in the country to receive three

2728
02:16:35,720 --> 02:16:40,160
Speaker 10: f's in education funding in a matrix they call making

2729
02:16:40,200 --> 02:16:43,119
Speaker 10: the Grade for the year twenty twenty two. And that's

2730
02:16:43,320 --> 02:16:46,199
Speaker 10: a report released I believe by the Education Law Center

2731
02:16:46,280 --> 02:16:50,760
Speaker 10: to a federal agency, and then she went on to

2732
02:16:50,800 --> 02:16:53,000
Speaker 10: create a punchline. She says, quote, when we have the

2733
02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:57,000
Speaker 10: money to fund billionaires to bring teams to Las Vegas,

2734
02:16:57,000 --> 02:16:59,560
Speaker 10: but we can fund education, I would say we have

2735
02:16:59,600 --> 02:17:06,240
Speaker 10: a problem. We're getting f's because Nevada wants the a's. Yeah,

2736
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:09,279
Speaker 10: there's your rim shot. But she was being deadly serious.

2737
02:17:09,840 --> 02:17:13,840
Speaker 10: So this is very hotly contested, and I don't see

2738
02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:16,480
Speaker 10: any way they're going to have a vote by Monday

2739
02:17:16,879 --> 02:17:19,120
Speaker 10: unless there's some back deal, door deals going on. So

2740
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:21,960
Speaker 10: it looks like this is headed to a special session.

2741
02:17:22,400 --> 02:17:24,840
Speaker 10: And I'll land where I've been landing all along, because

2742
02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:28,520
Speaker 10: politics makes for strange bedfellows. It's a fifty to fifty deal.

2743
02:17:28,959 --> 02:17:33,760
Speaker 4: So you said, hotly contested, hotly debated. Just walking around

2744
02:17:33,800 --> 02:17:38,440
Speaker 4: Vegas or listening to actual residents, not folks that are

2745
02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:41,760
Speaker 4: just there, how much is this actually moving the needle?

2746
02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:44,680
Speaker 4: How much is this actually being talked about? I don't

2747
02:17:44,720 --> 02:17:48,200
Speaker 4: mean like officially, I mean unofficially. How much is this

2748
02:17:48,280 --> 02:17:49,560
Speaker 4: actually mattering?

2749
02:17:50,320 --> 02:17:54,600
Speaker 10: Not a lot. It's very casually talked about because we've

2750
02:17:54,640 --> 02:17:57,320
Speaker 10: got other things right, like the Golden Knights, etc. And

2751
02:17:57,360 --> 02:17:59,520
Speaker 10: the Raiders are worried about Jimmy Garoppolo all that kind

2752
02:17:59,520 --> 02:18:02,760
Speaker 10: of stuff. So not really a lot, Jason. And there

2753
02:18:02,760 --> 02:18:06,720
Speaker 10: have been straw, non scientific polls done, people keeping records,

2754
02:18:06,920 --> 02:18:09,160
Speaker 10: and I heard something Friday that really blew me away

2755
02:18:09,560 --> 02:18:12,960
Speaker 10: that there's there was and I can't speak intelligently asked

2756
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:15,720
Speaker 10: to the data, but it was seventy nine percent against

2757
02:18:15,879 --> 02:18:17,520
Speaker 10: in a public poll.

2758
02:18:17,520 --> 02:18:20,680
Speaker 2: Burn. Let's switch gears to some other stuff. First of all,

2759
02:18:20,760 --> 02:18:23,480
Speaker 2: you kind of mentioned it in passing, but you know,

2760
02:18:23,600 --> 02:18:28,199
Speaker 2: Jimmy g the whole situation with the Raiders Tom Brady,

2761
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:31,279
Speaker 2: obviously we know about his ownership opportunities and all that stuff.

2762
02:18:32,000 --> 02:18:34,480
Speaker 2: I assume that you think that Tom Brady is not

2763
02:18:34,520 --> 02:18:35,920
Speaker 2: going to be the next starting bar back.

2764
02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:38,080
Speaker 10: There no, no, no, no, no, no, okay.

2765
02:18:38,320 --> 02:18:39,120
Speaker 2: That was all I have for you.

2766
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:41,120
Speaker 10: Well, I didn't mean to cut you off there, a

2767
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:44,240
Speaker 10: big fellow. Look, Tom Brady will probably get a one

2768
02:18:44,280 --> 02:18:47,640
Speaker 10: percent ownership of stake in the Raiders, which will be

2769
02:18:47,720 --> 02:18:51,240
Speaker 10: somewhere between forty and sixty million, depending on the valuation.

2770
02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:54,039
Speaker 10: And this is not unusual for athletes to do this.

2771
02:18:54,120 --> 02:18:56,640
Speaker 10: He treated like an annuity. He hangs on to it

2772
02:18:56,720 --> 02:18:59,360
Speaker 10: ten years from now. The Raiders are worth twelve billion dollars.

2773
02:18:59,600 --> 02:19:01,640
Speaker 10: He turned sixty million into one hundred and twenty million.

2774
02:19:01,720 --> 02:19:04,720
Speaker 10: That's all. Brady has zero interest in playing quarterback for

2775
02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:07,440
Speaker 10: the Raiders. I'll be shocked if he suits up this

2776
02:19:07,520 --> 02:19:09,480
Speaker 10: year for the Raiders. He's not preparing for that now.

2777
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:11,800
Speaker 10: He's got other things going on. They got the worst

2778
02:19:11,800 --> 02:19:15,000
Speaker 10: offensive line in football or an absolute dumpster fire, and

2779
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:17,440
Speaker 10: Brady would only play And I only give it a

2780
02:19:17,440 --> 02:19:20,240
Speaker 10: two percent chance for any team if they thought they

2781
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:22,879
Speaker 10: could win a championship this year. And the over under

2782
02:19:22,959 --> 02:19:25,160
Speaker 10: on the Raiders win total is seven and a half,

2783
02:19:25,160 --> 02:19:27,680
Speaker 10: and believe me, sharp people are pounding the under. So

2784
02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:30,279
Speaker 10: Brady is not going to play football for the Raiders

2785
02:19:30,280 --> 02:19:30,640
Speaker 10: this year.

2786
02:19:30,760 --> 02:19:33,640
Speaker 4: Do you feel like that percentage chance of Brady playing

2787
02:19:33,680 --> 02:19:37,200
Speaker 4: football is better or worse than the chances for the

2788
02:19:37,240 --> 02:19:40,800
Speaker 4: Miami Heat to come back to Denver Nuggets.

2789
02:19:41,600 --> 02:19:44,160
Speaker 10: Yeah. I think actually in Miami you have a much

2790
02:19:44,160 --> 02:19:48,320
Speaker 10: better chance, and currently Denver is minus nine hundred. But

2791
02:19:48,360 --> 02:19:50,360
Speaker 10: you know, it's interesting they talk about heat culture and

2792
02:19:50,400 --> 02:19:52,920
Speaker 10: it's a real thing. I made a couple of calls

2793
02:19:53,200 --> 02:19:55,760
Speaker 10: down there and I said, so, what's the temperature in

2794
02:19:55,800 --> 02:19:59,320
Speaker 10: the room, And they say, hey, we'll be there Sunday night. Okay,

2795
02:19:59,680 --> 02:20:03,880
Speaker 10: Max and Duncan Robinson were one from fourteen behind the Ark.

2796
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:07,240
Speaker 10: Caleb Mark was only one for seven, but the Heat

2797
02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:11,160
Speaker 10: only shot two free throws. Jimmy Butler was a little

2798
02:20:11,160 --> 02:20:14,240
Speaker 10: hesitant by the time the fourth quarter rolled around. They

2799
02:20:14,240 --> 02:20:17,519
Speaker 10: shot fifty percent from the floor. And oh, by the way,

2800
02:20:17,320 --> 02:20:20,600
Speaker 10: the Heat only turned the ball over eight times on Thursday,

2801
02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:23,000
Speaker 10: so they took care of the ball, so they believe

2802
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:24,480
Speaker 10: in their heart. I mean, it's kind of like Monty

2803
02:20:24,480 --> 02:20:26,200
Speaker 10: Python when they chop off the guy's arm and he

2804
02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:27,640
Speaker 10: says that it's a mere scratch, you know, and they

2805
02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:29,920
Speaker 10: chop off out of arm and he says, yeah, don't

2806
02:20:29,920 --> 02:20:32,320
Speaker 10: worry about it, man, and it's just flesh. Room chops

2807
02:20:32,320 --> 02:20:34,080
Speaker 10: off both his legs and we'll call it a draw.

2808
02:20:34,320 --> 02:20:37,520
Speaker 10: The heater eternally optimistic. I mean, I really respect what

2809
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:41,280
Speaker 10: they've done. The problem there is I don't know how

2810
02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:45,560
Speaker 10: they defend Nicolay Okay, regardless of whether he's got the ball,

2811
02:20:45,640 --> 02:20:47,280
Speaker 10: doesn't have the ball, he's in the low posts, the

2812
02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:49,680
Speaker 10: high posts, he's making a pass, he's driving the rim.

2813
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:53,840
Speaker 10: You know. Bam Adebayo had a real issue, right So

2814
02:20:53,879 --> 02:20:56,240
Speaker 10: the long and the short of it is Miami may

2815
02:20:56,320 --> 02:20:58,160
Speaker 10: score more, but I don't know how they can stop Denver.

2816
02:20:58,280 --> 02:21:00,560
Speaker 10: Having said that, let's see what happened happens. You know

2817
02:21:00,600 --> 02:21:02,519
Speaker 10: how I felt about Denver all along.

2818
02:21:02,840 --> 02:21:04,400
Speaker 2: Well, And I was gonna ask you Burne. You know

2819
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:06,960
Speaker 2: you always say you know the sports and the theater

2820
02:21:07,040 --> 02:21:10,959
Speaker 2: and everything, and you know it's it's the most unpredictable thing.

2821
02:21:10,959 --> 02:21:12,600
Speaker 2: It's and you say it all the time. It's it's

2822
02:21:12,640 --> 02:21:15,879
Speaker 2: why you can't write Hollywood scripts for that that that

2823
02:21:15,920 --> 02:21:18,039
Speaker 2: can match many of the things that we see. So

2824
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:21,920
Speaker 2: with that said, do you give not not just for tomorrow,

2825
02:21:21,959 --> 02:21:25,039
Speaker 2: but for the series? Do you give the Heat any chance?

2826
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:27,840
Speaker 2: And if so, like what needs to change? Because you

2827
02:21:27,879 --> 02:21:31,120
Speaker 2: just acknowledged Nicole Yokich is basically impossible to stop. So

2828
02:21:31,720 --> 02:21:34,000
Speaker 2: what what has to happen for the Heat to make

2829
02:21:34,040 --> 02:21:35,640
Speaker 2: this thing competitive and make it a series?

2830
02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:39,120
Speaker 10: Not that I have the power to speak this into existence,

2831
02:21:39,160 --> 02:21:41,200
Speaker 10: but I would say, if the Cola wakes up tomorrow

2832
02:21:41,240 --> 02:21:44,280
Speaker 10: with malaria, sure they got a shot. I think Miami

2833
02:21:44,320 --> 02:21:47,280
Speaker 10: will win a game. They'll they'll be competitive. This is

2834
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:49,600
Speaker 10: they run into a much better team, just like the

2835
02:21:49,680 --> 02:21:53,000
Speaker 10: Lakers did nine days off. Look, they didn't even miss

2836
02:21:53,040 --> 02:21:56,039
Speaker 10: a beat. So do I expect Miami to win in

2837
02:21:56,120 --> 02:21:57,279
Speaker 10: Denver Sunday?

2838
02:21:57,440 --> 02:21:57,520
Speaker 3: No?

2839
02:21:57,800 --> 02:21:59,400
Speaker 10: Do I expect them to be more competitive? I do

2840
02:22:00,160 --> 02:22:03,160
Speaker 10: get down to Miami. They'll win a game in Miami, maybe,

2841
02:22:03,160 --> 02:22:06,080
Speaker 10: to doubt it, probably one, and that'll be about it.

2842
02:22:06,120 --> 02:22:08,240
Speaker 10: They just ran into the better team. There's no crime

2843
02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:11,680
Speaker 10: in that. Look, this team was trailing Chicago by three

2844
02:22:11,800 --> 02:22:14,440
Speaker 10: in the play in game eight weeks ago, whenever the

2845
02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:16,560
Speaker 10: heck it was, and then you know they were written

2846
02:22:16,560 --> 02:22:18,200
Speaker 10: off for dead then. So the fact that they are

2847
02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:20,560
Speaker 10: in the NBA Finals, I think it is quite an accomplishment.

2848
02:22:20,840 --> 02:22:23,840
Speaker 4: So you also had tipped us off. You are a

2849
02:22:24,040 --> 02:22:27,560
Speaker 4: historian and you are the master of the unique. So

2850
02:22:27,640 --> 02:22:31,320
Speaker 4: tell us about the Stanley Cup trophy. I know you

2851
02:22:31,360 --> 02:22:32,160
Speaker 4: have some fun stuff.

2852
02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:36,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's part of my blessed life. Covered three red

2853
02:22:36,720 --> 02:22:41,120
Speaker 10: wing Stanley Cup champion teams and one that lost in

2854
02:22:41,160 --> 02:22:44,360
Speaker 10: the finals to New Jersey in ninety five. The Stanley

2855
02:22:44,400 --> 02:22:46,560
Speaker 10: Cup is one of a kind. It's indescribable. It's in

2856
02:22:46,640 --> 02:22:48,520
Speaker 10: town now, it's making the rounds. It's one hundred and

2857
02:22:48,560 --> 02:22:52,080
Speaker 10: thirty one years old. It's two artifact thirty four pounds.

2858
02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:55,120
Speaker 10: It's almost thirty six inches tall. And again we could

2859
02:22:55,120 --> 02:22:58,720
Speaker 10: spend probably four hours giving you Stanley Cup stories. But

2860
02:22:58,800 --> 02:23:03,080
Speaker 10: here's some fun interesting artifacts that you might you know

2861
02:23:03,480 --> 02:23:06,320
Speaker 10: you share the water cooler on Monday. There have actually

2862
02:23:06,360 --> 02:23:10,720
Speaker 10: been three babies baptized in the Stanley cop After the

2863
02:23:10,720 --> 02:23:14,080
Speaker 10: Colorado Abs beat Florida in nineteen ninety six, he had

2864
02:23:14,080 --> 02:23:17,360
Speaker 10: a defenseman named Silvan le Fay. He had his baby,

2865
02:23:17,400 --> 02:23:20,240
Speaker 10: his daughter Christen, and then the Red Wings had a

2866
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:24,560
Speaker 10: Thomas Holmstron. He had a kid in two thousand and eight.

2867
02:23:24,959 --> 02:23:27,520
Speaker 10: The Stanley Cup has been all over the world, but

2868
02:23:28,040 --> 02:23:30,560
Speaker 10: this one takes the cake for me. To boost morale

2869
02:23:31,080 --> 02:23:34,600
Speaker 10: for Canadian American troops during the Middle East, back during

2870
02:23:34,640 --> 02:23:37,280
Speaker 10: the war in Afghanistan, they actually flew the cup in

2871
02:23:37,640 --> 02:23:40,600
Speaker 10: so the Canadians could see it and it fired him

2872
02:23:40,640 --> 02:23:42,880
Speaker 10: up and it hung out with the Canadian troops in

2873
02:23:42,920 --> 02:23:46,959
Speaker 10: Afghanistan back twenty years ago. By the way, if you

2874
02:23:47,040 --> 02:23:49,360
Speaker 10: decide to take the cup swimming in a pool, which

2875
02:23:49,400 --> 02:23:52,400
Speaker 10: Mario Lemieue did, he wanted to see after the Penguins

2876
02:23:52,400 --> 02:23:55,400
Speaker 10: in nineteen ninety two won the Stanley Cup, he wanted

2877
02:23:55,400 --> 02:23:57,880
Speaker 10: to see if the cup would float. It does not float.

2878
02:23:57,920 --> 02:23:59,720
Speaker 10: It's sunk to the bottom of the pool like a rock.

2879
02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:04,480
Speaker 10: So they got that going for you. And interestingly enough,

2880
02:24:04,680 --> 02:24:08,200
Speaker 10: the Cup's only been lost once, and it's only been

2881
02:24:08,640 --> 02:24:12,320
Speaker 10: there's only been one attempt to steal it once, and

2882
02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:14,600
Speaker 10: both have to do with the Montreal Canadians, who, by

2883
02:24:14,640 --> 02:24:17,240
Speaker 10: the way, little trivia, you know all the names in

2884
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:19,880
Speaker 10: the Cup. The Montreal Canadians appear in the Cup twenty

2885
02:24:19,879 --> 02:24:23,080
Speaker 10: four times, more than any other any other team. But

2886
02:24:23,720 --> 02:24:26,960
Speaker 10: in the nineteen sixties, the Montreal Canadians were driving the

2887
02:24:27,600 --> 02:24:31,680
Speaker 10: Cup across Canada for some sort of event and the

2888
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:33,560
Speaker 10: car broke down and they had to change a tire

2889
02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:35,080
Speaker 10: and to get the tire out they had to put

2890
02:24:35,080 --> 02:24:38,000
Speaker 10: the Stanley Cup on the side of the road. They

2891
02:24:38,040 --> 02:24:40,960
Speaker 10: drove away, and an hour later they realized, hey, my god,

2892
02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:44,120
Speaker 10: we forgot the cup. And they turned around and it'd

2893
02:24:44,120 --> 02:24:46,640
Speaker 10: been snowing, but sure enough, when they got back to

2894
02:24:46,680 --> 02:24:48,400
Speaker 10: where they were, was covered in snow, but it was

2895
02:24:48,440 --> 02:24:50,720
Speaker 10: safe and sound. And then this one, to me, is

2896
02:24:50,760 --> 02:24:53,680
Speaker 10: an absolute beauty. Somewhere in the mid sixties at the

2897
02:24:53,720 --> 02:24:57,279
Speaker 10: old Chicago Stadium in Chicago, the Cup was on display

2898
02:24:57,560 --> 02:25:02,280
Speaker 10: as part of some function and walked in, grabbed it

2899
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:06,040
Speaker 10: turned around, starts walking out the door, and a cop says,

2900
02:25:06,040 --> 02:25:07,680
Speaker 10: where do you think you're going, buddy? He says, I'm

2901
02:25:07,720 --> 02:25:10,720
Speaker 10: taking the cup back to Montreal where it belongs. The

2902
02:25:10,760 --> 02:25:12,680
Speaker 10: cops thought it was so funny he didn't even arrest

2903
02:25:12,760 --> 02:25:14,840
Speaker 10: him and they got the cup back. So that's like

2904
02:25:15,000 --> 02:25:17,720
Speaker 10: ten percent of all the crazy cup stories out there.

2905
02:25:18,120 --> 02:25:20,280
Speaker 10: I mean, people eat meals out of it, they drink

2906
02:25:20,320 --> 02:25:22,720
Speaker 10: booze out of it, they take it to strip clubs,

2907
02:25:22,720 --> 02:25:25,840
Speaker 10: They do all kinds of crazy things you can never imagine.

2908
02:25:25,959 --> 02:25:28,160
Speaker 10: And I tell you, once you've been around it, which

2909
02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:29,920
Speaker 10: you've ever seen it, if you ever have a chance,

2910
02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:33,920
Speaker 10: there is some sort of aura around the Stanley Cup.

2911
02:25:34,040 --> 02:25:35,760
Speaker 10: One hundred and thirty one years old. It is the

2912
02:25:35,800 --> 02:25:37,200
Speaker 10: greatest trophy in all sports.

2913
02:25:37,560 --> 02:25:39,160
Speaker 2: I'm one of those that was lucky enough to be

2914
02:25:39,200 --> 02:25:40,400
Speaker 2: around it many years ago.

2915
02:25:40,560 --> 02:25:44,959
Speaker 4: There you going nice, Oh great, so you guys don't

2916
02:25:44,959 --> 02:25:46,039
Speaker 4: have need you agree it?

2917
02:25:46,200 --> 02:25:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, that's awesome.

2918
02:25:47,640 --> 02:25:51,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's uh, you know how they say like people

2919
02:25:51,400 --> 02:25:54,400
Speaker 2: have like a you know, they're like like, oh so

2920
02:25:54,520 --> 02:25:56,400
Speaker 2: and so stops the room when they walk in. It's

2921
02:25:56,440 --> 02:25:58,520
Speaker 2: like the cup like it's like you know, it's like

2922
02:25:58,520 --> 02:26:00,240
Speaker 2: if Tom Brady walked in a room like this. Can

2923
02:26:00,280 --> 02:26:03,400
Speaker 2: you the second appears, all anybody wants to do is

2924
02:26:03,440 --> 02:26:05,640
Speaker 2: take a picture with it. So Bertie Fratto of the

2925
02:26:05,640 --> 02:26:07,959
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto Show, you can listen to him at the

2926
02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:10,560
Speaker 2: top of the hour again, he'll be taking up until

2927
02:26:10,600 --> 02:26:13,840
Speaker 2: six am Eastern Time. Also, make sure to follow Bernie

2928
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:17,240
Speaker 2: on Twitter at Bernie Fratto. Bertie. We appreciate the time,

2929
02:26:17,360 --> 02:26:19,039
Speaker 2: the insight and we will be listening at the top

2930
02:26:19,040 --> 02:26:19,360
Speaker 2: of the hour.

2931
02:26:19,400 --> 02:26:22,000
Speaker 10: Thank you, Bernie, joy your weekend, guys. Thanks so much.

2932
02:26:22,280 --> 02:26:24,720
Speaker 2: That is Bernie Fratto of the Bernie Fratto Show. He

2933
02:26:24,760 --> 02:26:26,600
Speaker 2: will be following us at the top of the hour

2934
02:26:26,959 --> 02:26:29,039
Speaker 2: final time today. Do want to toss it over the

2935
02:26:29,120 --> 02:26:31,680
Speaker 2: news desk Steve Seger? What is trending?

2936
02:26:31,760 --> 02:26:34,200
Speaker 7: And if you've seen the Indy five hundred trophy which

2937
02:26:34,200 --> 02:26:37,119
Speaker 7: they gave out last weekend of the holiday, the winner

2938
02:26:37,160 --> 02:26:42,640
Speaker 7: there gets his face on the trophy. Yeah, it's astounding.

2939
02:26:43,160 --> 02:26:45,120
Speaker 7: You were talking about the Oakland A's and I know

2940
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:47,720
Speaker 7: long term it's not just are they bad this season

2941
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:50,200
Speaker 7: when you're talking a move, it's what the future will be.

2942
02:26:50,320 --> 02:26:52,600
Speaker 7: But they're giving you nothing in the area of good

2943
02:26:52,600 --> 02:26:55,960
Speaker 7: news with this season. They not only lost twelve to

2944
02:26:56,040 --> 02:26:59,520
Speaker 7: one at Miami today, aser twelve and forty eight for

2945
02:26:59,600 --> 02:27:03,480
Speaker 7: the season. They've been outscored by over two hundred runs

2946
02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:07,279
Speaker 7: already this year. That's one of the top ten worst

2947
02:27:07,560 --> 02:27:10,520
Speaker 7: run differentials at this point of a season ever, and

2948
02:27:10,560 --> 02:27:12,680
Speaker 7: the other bad teams on the list with them are

2949
02:27:12,720 --> 02:27:16,400
Speaker 7: all from the eighteen hundreds.

2950
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:18,760
Speaker 4: Braves lost two to them early this week.

2951
02:27:18,840 --> 02:27:21,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. We did make a comment on that a

2952
02:27:21,959 --> 02:27:24,320
Speaker 7: couple of nights ago on the show. It's just out

2953
02:27:24,360 --> 02:27:27,959
Speaker 7: of nowhere. On the positive side of things, killing opponents,

2954
02:27:28,000 --> 02:27:32,520
Speaker 7: the Texas Rangers sixteen six winners against Seattle. Texas scored

2955
02:27:32,560 --> 02:27:35,920
Speaker 7: it at least ten runs in a game fifteen times

2956
02:27:35,959 --> 02:27:39,320
Speaker 7: already this season, a near record for this point and

2957
02:27:39,320 --> 02:27:41,800
Speaker 7: it speaking a lot of runs. You guys mentioned Number

2958
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:44,720
Speaker 7: one Wake Forest in college baseball, they are leading the

2959
02:27:44,800 --> 02:27:49,160
Speaker 7: late game fifteen to six against Maryland. Later reminder FS

2960
02:27:49,240 --> 02:27:52,640
Speaker 7: one as NASCAR this weekend including Sundays three hundred from

2961
02:27:52,640 --> 02:27:56,039
Speaker 7: Illinois three thirty pm Eastern time. Stanley Cup Final was

2962
02:27:56,040 --> 02:27:58,280
Speaker 7: in Vegas. The opener tonight went to the home team

2963
02:27:58,320 --> 02:28:00,240
Speaker 7: five to two over Florida with three goals in the

2964
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:03,680
Speaker 7: third period. Game two is Monday night. Neither franchise has

2965
02:28:03,720 --> 02:28:06,160
Speaker 7: ever won the Cup. Florida had won eight straight on

2966
02:28:06,160 --> 02:28:09,600
Speaker 7: the road this postseason till tonight. NBA Finals Game two

2967
02:28:09,680 --> 02:28:12,440
Speaker 7: is Sunday night. Denver beat Miami in the series opener,

2968
02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:15,280
Speaker 7: the Nuggets at home nine to zero. In these playoffs,

2969
02:28:15,640 --> 02:28:18,560
Speaker 7: Caleb Martin did not shoot well last game, and for Miami,

2970
02:28:18,600 --> 02:28:21,680
Speaker 7: he missed practice today due to illness. Max Struce oh

2971
02:28:21,760 --> 02:28:24,560
Speaker 7: of ten shooting from the floor last game. How soon

2972
02:28:24,600 --> 02:28:26,000
Speaker 7: can Tyler Hero get back?

2973
02:28:26,040 --> 02:28:26,800
Speaker 4: The heat guard.

2974
02:28:26,800 --> 02:28:29,520
Speaker 7: Likely a game time decision for tomorrow, trying to come

2975
02:28:29,560 --> 02:28:32,280
Speaker 7: back from surgery at April on a broken hand. He

2976
02:28:32,360 --> 02:28:34,320
Speaker 7: was hurt in the first half of the first game

2977
02:28:34,360 --> 02:28:36,959
Speaker 7: of the first round. This year, They've been missing his

2978
02:28:37,120 --> 02:28:41,240
Speaker 7: outside shooting and twenty points per game season before he

2979
02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:43,320
Speaker 7: was named the league sixth Man of the Year. So

2980
02:28:43,360 --> 02:28:47,800
Speaker 7: it's looking like Hero could return Sunday or Wednesday. But

2981
02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:50,760
Speaker 7: the Denver Nuggets have won seven games in a row overall,

2982
02:28:50,800 --> 02:28:54,080
Speaker 7: and in Nuggets history, every time they've led a series

2983
02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:57,480
Speaker 7: two games to none, they've won that series seven times total,

2984
02:28:57,520 --> 02:29:01,280
Speaker 7: including every round this postseason. At the French Open, Number six,

2985
02:29:01,360 --> 02:29:04,440
Speaker 7: Coco Goff won her third round match Novak Djokovic play

2986
02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:08,320
Speaker 7: his fourth rounder tomorrow. The Buffalo Bills gave defensive tackle

2987
02:29:08,360 --> 02:29:11,560
Speaker 7: at Oliver a four year extension. The Vikings are expected

2988
02:29:11,600 --> 02:29:13,920
Speaker 7: to cut running back Dalvin Cook at some point if

2989
02:29:13,920 --> 02:29:16,480
Speaker 7: they can't arrange a trade. Now he was born in Miami.

2990
02:29:16,560 --> 02:29:18,960
Speaker 7: His brother plays for Buffalo. We'll see where he goes.

2991
02:29:19,280 --> 02:29:22,000
Speaker 7: Did you see the Chicago Bears yesterday said their property

2992
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:24,360
Speaker 7: in Arlington Heights is not their sole focus for a

2993
02:29:24,400 --> 02:29:28,320
Speaker 7: new stadium site now tax issues. Rory McElroy has tied

2994
02:29:28,360 --> 02:29:30,800
Speaker 7: for the lead at the Memorial three late ballgames in

2995
02:29:30,840 --> 02:29:33,640
Speaker 7: the Major League San Diego and you. Darvis shut out

2996
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:36,520
Speaker 7: the Cubs six nothing. Darvish with nine strikeouts in his

2997
02:29:36,600 --> 02:29:39,240
Speaker 7: seven innings of work. The Cub's offense went two for

2998
02:29:39,320 --> 02:29:42,959
Speaker 7: twenty nine. Fernando Tatist Junior hit two home runs. Atlanta

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02:29:43,080 --> 02:29:44,880
Speaker 7: winner at Arizona.

3000
02:29:44,400 --> 02:29:44,880
Speaker 3: Five to two.

3001
02:29:44,920 --> 02:29:48,040
Speaker 7: That ends the Diamondbacks six game winning streak. Ronald Okunya

3002
02:29:48,080 --> 02:29:51,160
Speaker 7: with a long homer his twelfth. Spencer Streyder six and

3003
02:29:51,240 --> 02:29:53,920
Speaker 7: two got the win. Diamondbacks still tied for first in

3004
02:29:53,959 --> 02:29:56,240
Speaker 7: the NS with the Dodgers, who lost at home to

3005
02:29:56,280 --> 02:29:59,000
Speaker 7: the Yankees six ' three. Garrett Cole seven and oh

3006
02:29:59,080 --> 02:30:00,880
Speaker 7: got the win for New York. Mark Yanks at four

3007
02:30:00,920 --> 02:30:04,640
Speaker 7: home runs. Aaron Judge, with his nineteenth Dodgers with runners

3008
02:30:04,640 --> 02:30:08,400
Speaker 7: in scoring position, went one for eleven. Giants shot out

3009
02:30:08,440 --> 02:30:11,600
Speaker 7: Baltimore for nothing. Alex Cobb now five and two. He

3010
02:30:11,640 --> 02:30:14,960
Speaker 7: had seven strikeouts in seven and two thirds. Cleveland won

3011
02:30:14,959 --> 02:30:17,480
Speaker 7: at Minnesota four to two, beating Sonny Gray, who had

3012
02:30:17,480 --> 02:30:19,880
Speaker 7: been four to Zho Toronto a two to one winner

3013
02:30:19,920 --> 02:30:22,920
Speaker 7: at the Mets Vladimir Gerrero junior RBI double top of

3014
02:30:22,920 --> 02:30:26,320
Speaker 7: the ninth Mets record thirty and twenty nine. Houston got

3015
02:30:26,320 --> 02:30:29,039
Speaker 7: a grand slam from Alex Bregman and four walks from

3016
02:30:29,080 --> 02:30:30,960
Speaker 7: him and a win over the Angels nine to six.

3017
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:33,600
Speaker 7: Sho hey Otani four for five in the loss. In

3018
02:30:33,640 --> 02:30:36,320
Speaker 7: the Miami win against Oakland twelve to one, the Marlins,

3019
02:30:36,360 --> 02:30:39,840
Speaker 7: Luis Arias went five for five five RBIs. He's batting

3020
02:30:39,879 --> 02:30:42,520
Speaker 7: three ninety. By the way, you know, you can't sell

3021
02:30:42,640 --> 02:30:45,000
Speaker 7: enough tickets when the A's are in town and it's Miami.

3022
02:30:45,080 --> 02:30:47,600
Speaker 7: Of course, that's one of the great draws in all

3023
02:30:47,640 --> 02:30:50,200
Speaker 7: the National League attendants last night was eight thousand. It

3024
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:53,200
Speaker 7: was ten thousand tonight. Just for the record, Phillies won

3025
02:30:53,240 --> 02:30:55,680
Speaker 7: to end a five game losing streak. Pirates won their

3026
02:30:55,720 --> 02:30:59,120
Speaker 7: fourth in a row Milwaukee one to keep pace Colorado

3027
02:30:59,200 --> 02:31:01,400
Speaker 7: and the whiteside wins. I don't know if you saw

3028
02:31:01,400 --> 02:31:04,360
Speaker 7: the White Sox ending in a two to one win

3029
02:31:04,400 --> 02:31:07,879
Speaker 7: and ten against Detroit. All the runs came on wild pitches,

3030
02:31:07,959 --> 02:31:11,720
Speaker 7: including the game winner, which was a fastball that missed

3031
02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:15,200
Speaker 7: the catcher and went off the umpire's face. Bask Boston

3032
02:31:15,240 --> 02:31:18,720
Speaker 7: split a doubleheader with Tampa Bay. Last night's game was

3033
02:31:18,800 --> 02:31:21,040
Speaker 7: rained out. There chance or rain again tomorrow.

3034
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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Sager,

3035
02:31:24,320 --> 02:31:27,560
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday aeron Torris Jason Martin

3036
02:31:27,560 --> 02:31:30,080
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios to Saga.

3037
02:31:30,240 --> 02:31:33,400
Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow with Arnie Spanier and Monday, Yes,

3038
02:31:33,440 --> 02:31:36,040
Speaker 2: and Monday and Disaga will be in of course all

3039
02:31:36,080 --> 02:31:39,400
Speaker 2: afternoon and early evening here on the network. Tell you

3040
02:31:39,440 --> 02:31:43,199
Speaker 2: what coming up. We will preview the big game tomorrow,

3041
02:31:43,320 --> 02:31:46,680
Speaker 2: Game two of the NBA Finals. What do the Heat

3042
02:31:46,800 --> 02:31:49,440
Speaker 2: have to do to steal a game in Denver? We

3043
02:31:49,480 --> 02:31:56,720
Speaker 2: discussed that next Fox Sports Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports

3044
02:31:56,800 --> 02:31:59,959
Speaker 2: Radio eron Torris Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Tyres

3045
02:32:00,040 --> 02:32:02,520
Speaker 2: dot Com studios one more time. By the way, I

3046
02:32:02,520 --> 02:32:05,760
Speaker 2: do want to welcome in our new affiliate in Peoria, Illinois,

3047
02:32:05,760 --> 02:32:09,640
Speaker 2: Peoria Sports Radio one hundred point one. Welcome to the

3048
02:32:09,640 --> 02:32:12,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio family. They're a Chicago White Sox radio

3049
02:32:12,920 --> 02:32:17,680
Speaker 2: affiliate and program director Scott Heckethom dropped another network to

3050
02:32:17,760 --> 02:32:20,000
Speaker 2: make the flip to Fox Sports a big win for them.

3051
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Fox Sports Radio, Peoria Sports Radio one

3052
02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:26,000
Speaker 2: on one point one. By the way, if you're new

3053
02:32:26,040 --> 02:32:28,640
Speaker 2: to the show, Torres and Martin, tweet us at Aaron

3054
02:32:28,760 --> 02:32:35,560
Speaker 2: Underscore Tours on Twitter at j mart Radio Jason. Let's

3055
02:32:35,600 --> 02:32:39,360
Speaker 2: get to it. We open the show talking Game one

3056
02:32:39,640 --> 02:32:42,600
Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals, and you know, you kind of

3057
02:32:42,600 --> 02:32:44,600
Speaker 2: didn't beat around the bush. You said, I, I don't

3058
02:32:44,680 --> 02:32:49,120
Speaker 2: really see the scenario in which I really don't see

3059
02:32:49,120 --> 02:32:52,279
Speaker 2: the scenario in which the Denver Nuggets can win this series.

3060
02:32:52,360 --> 02:32:55,680
Speaker 2: So obviously that probably means that you're not feeling great

3061
02:32:55,720 --> 02:32:59,960
Speaker 2: about Miami going into Denver, a place that no visiting

3062
02:33:00,080 --> 02:33:04,080
Speaker 2: team has won this entire postseason. What has to happen

3063
02:33:04,120 --> 02:33:07,720
Speaker 2: tomorrow for this thing to at least be competitive, let

3064
02:33:07,720 --> 02:33:09,840
Speaker 2: alone for Miami to actually steal a game in Denver

3065
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:10,320
Speaker 2: tomorrow night.

3066
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Speaker 4: I mean they got to shoot well. I mean Bernie

3067
02:33:14,000 --> 02:33:16,840
Speaker 4: said it and I mentioned it earlier. Struce can't go

3068
02:33:16,920 --> 02:33:19,360
Speaker 4: out there and start the game zero for six and

3069
02:33:19,400 --> 02:33:20,720
Speaker 4: not be able to contribute.

3070
02:33:20,800 --> 02:33:23,440
Speaker 3: Duncan Robinson can't shoot that poorly.

3071
02:33:24,200 --> 02:33:26,560
Speaker 4: Caleb Martin needs to get over the illness that kept

3072
02:33:26,600 --> 02:33:29,480
Speaker 4: him out of practice on Saturday, and he's gonna have

3073
02:33:29,560 --> 02:33:32,119
Speaker 4: to be there. If you get Tyler Hero back, all

3074
02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:34,680
Speaker 4: the better, but obviously you're not gonna rush that, so

3075
02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:37,680
Speaker 4: that's a game time decision. Maybe they know he can play,

3076
02:33:37,720 --> 02:33:39,840
Speaker 4: or maybe they realize maybe we'll have him back for

3077
02:33:39,879 --> 02:33:42,360
Speaker 4: the first game in Miami and that'll give us a

3078
02:33:42,360 --> 02:33:44,320
Speaker 4: little bit of a boost there if we're down oh two,

3079
02:33:44,440 --> 02:33:45,080
Speaker 4: maybe that's.

3080
02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:46,600
Speaker 3: What gets us to two to one. I don't know,

3081
02:33:47,240 --> 02:33:51,480
Speaker 3: but the big thing for me is that Jimmy Butler's

3082
02:33:51,520 --> 02:33:52,400
Speaker 3: got to be aggressive.

3083
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:55,240
Speaker 4: Six or fourteen is just not a stat line that's

3084
02:33:55,240 --> 02:34:00,520
Speaker 4: good enough in this playoff final. He's got to be

3085
02:34:00,560 --> 02:34:03,440
Speaker 4: taken closer to twenty shots, or maybe even twenty to

3086
02:34:03,480 --> 02:34:06,320
Speaker 4: twenty two shots, especially if the other guys are not

3087
02:34:06,360 --> 02:34:08,160
Speaker 4: able to score. That means he's got to be aggressive,

3088
02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:11,280
Speaker 4: means he's got to be going to the rack, going

3089
02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:13,880
Speaker 4: for rebounds, probably getting to the free throw line, and

3090
02:34:13,879 --> 02:34:15,160
Speaker 4: his body may be banged up.

3091
02:34:15,160 --> 02:34:16,560
Speaker 3: And he's played a whole lot of minutes.

3092
02:34:16,600 --> 02:34:19,240
Speaker 4: He's had to this Miami team, you know, having to

3093
02:34:19,280 --> 02:34:21,480
Speaker 4: come through the play in round before they even got

3094
02:34:21,480 --> 02:34:24,800
Speaker 4: to play against Milwaukee, and they've dealt with Boston, they

3095
02:34:24,920 --> 02:34:27,240
Speaker 4: dealt with a good, pretty good Knicks team. You know,

3096
02:34:27,320 --> 02:34:30,360
Speaker 4: this has been a challenge. It's been a long road

3097
02:34:30,440 --> 02:34:32,240
Speaker 4: for them. And the Nuggets have been sitting there and

3098
02:34:32,280 --> 02:34:34,000
Speaker 4: we didn't I don't know that we mentioned this at all,

3099
02:34:34,040 --> 02:34:36,920
Speaker 4: but Nuggets sat there for like, you know, a week,

3100
02:34:37,400 --> 02:34:41,920
Speaker 4: watching Miami in Boston, and so they're just fresh as

3101
02:34:41,920 --> 02:34:45,360
Speaker 4: a daisy compared to Miami at this point. So I

3102
02:34:45,360 --> 02:34:48,000
Speaker 4: think they've got to shoot the basketball better, which is

3103
02:34:48,040 --> 02:34:53,000
Speaker 4: not exactly rocket science in terms of analysis, but and

3104
02:34:53,040 --> 02:34:55,240
Speaker 4: I think that they've got to just kind of hope

3105
02:34:55,720 --> 02:34:59,880
Speaker 4: that the role players for Denver just are off like Jokic.

3106
02:35:00,080 --> 02:35:03,080
Speaker 4: Let's give Jokic thirty, but let's make sure Jamal Murray

3107
02:35:03,080 --> 02:35:05,440
Speaker 4: stays in the fifteen range, and let's make sure some

3108
02:35:05,480 --> 02:35:06,760
Speaker 4: of these other guys don't get hot.

3109
02:35:06,760 --> 02:35:07,240
Speaker 3: I mean Murray.

3110
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Speaker 4: I'm not calling him a role player, but you can't

3111
02:35:08,959 --> 02:35:10,480
Speaker 4: let him go out there and get you twenty six

3112
02:35:10,480 --> 02:35:13,320
Speaker 4: and Jokic get you thirty and expected that that's going

3113
02:35:13,400 --> 02:35:15,640
Speaker 4: to be enough to probably win if you're Miami. So

3114
02:35:15,720 --> 02:35:17,960
Speaker 4: I think you just want to try and contain Jokic

3115
02:35:18,040 --> 02:35:21,480
Speaker 4: a little bit, keep some of those passing lanes a

3116
02:35:21,480 --> 02:35:23,440
Speaker 4: little bit more challenging. Maybe you get a couple of

3117
02:35:23,480 --> 02:35:27,120
Speaker 4: extra turnovers, but I think it's Jimmy Butler's aggression and

3118
02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:31,400
Speaker 4: being able to make some threes. That's probably your recipe.

3119
02:35:32,879 --> 02:35:35,800
Speaker 2: It goes without saying. I mean those key guys, Kayla Martin,

3120
02:35:36,120 --> 02:35:40,400
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler and Max Strews have to be better really quick.

3121
02:35:40,600 --> 02:35:43,920
Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier. Jimmy Butler. We were on air

3122
02:35:44,040 --> 02:35:47,520
Speaker 2: during Game six of the Eastern Conference Finals last week

3123
02:35:47,560 --> 02:35:50,120
Speaker 2: when Jimmy Butler goes five of twenty one from the

3124
02:35:50,120 --> 02:35:52,840
Speaker 2: field and then in the most recent game he goes

3125
02:35:52,920 --> 02:35:57,080
Speaker 2: six of fourteen. As you just said, do you think

3126
02:35:57,240 --> 02:36:01,800
Speaker 2: it's just, hey, these are the playoffs, great coaching, great scheming,

3127
02:36:02,240 --> 02:36:05,360
Speaker 2: especially as you get more tape, or do you believe

3128
02:36:05,400 --> 02:36:08,040
Speaker 2: that that maybe he is wearing down because I look

3129
02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:11,640
Speaker 2: at at everything that he's been asked to do dating

3130
02:36:11,680 --> 02:36:13,600
Speaker 2: back to the start of these playoffs, and remember they

3131
02:36:13,600 --> 02:36:17,959
Speaker 2: were playing game single elimination games. I look at what

3132
02:36:18,040 --> 02:36:20,720
Speaker 2: he's been asked to do, and this guy, you know, listen,

3133
02:36:20,920 --> 02:36:23,160
Speaker 2: I love him, and I love his story, and I

3134
02:36:23,200 --> 02:36:25,800
Speaker 2: hope that it's somehow, you know. I hope he ends

3135
02:36:25,840 --> 02:36:28,200
Speaker 2: his career with the championship at some point. But he

3136
02:36:28,320 --> 02:36:31,039
Speaker 2: is thirty three going on thirty four years old, and

3137
02:36:31,080 --> 02:36:33,720
Speaker 2: I think that's my worry is that we've talked about

3138
02:36:33,720 --> 02:36:37,000
Speaker 2: this throughout the playoffs, is that every team Jokic has

3139
02:36:37,040 --> 02:36:40,720
Speaker 2: his Jamal Murray, Jason Tatum as his Jalen Brown, Devin

3140
02:36:40,760 --> 02:36:43,880
Speaker 2: Booker has his Kevin Durant, Lebron James is Anthony Davis

3141
02:36:43,920 --> 02:36:45,920
Speaker 2: on and on the best teams that have made the

3142
02:36:45,920 --> 02:36:48,680
Speaker 2: deepest runs, they really have two guys that can take

3143
02:36:48,720 --> 02:36:52,600
Speaker 2: over a game when needed. And the Miami Heat, I

3144
02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:54,760
Speaker 2: guess they've had moments with Caleb Martin and stuff, but

3145
02:36:54,800 --> 02:36:58,720
Speaker 2: it's still Jimmy Butler's team, and Jimmy Butler's really got

3146
02:36:58,760 --> 02:37:00,520
Speaker 2: to be playing in an elite level for them to

3147
02:37:00,600 --> 02:37:03,840
Speaker 2: have elite level success. Do you think it's just scheming

3148
02:37:03,879 --> 02:37:06,200
Speaker 2: and coaching and opposition, or do you think he's finally

3149
02:37:06,200 --> 02:37:08,680
Speaker 2: starting to wind down at this time of the playoffs.

3150
02:37:08,720 --> 02:37:11,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I imagine the answer, as most people would think,

3151
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:14,080
Speaker 4: is some degree of both. The question is how much

3152
02:37:14,080 --> 02:37:16,080
Speaker 4: of a percentage is the wear down factor and how

3153
02:37:16,160 --> 02:37:20,160
Speaker 4: much of a percentage is scheming. I just think that

3154
02:37:20,920 --> 02:37:23,039
Speaker 4: I think if he's worn down at all, maybe that's

3155
02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:25,840
Speaker 4: keeping him from being aggressive. Maybe he's trying to be

3156
02:37:25,879 --> 02:37:29,440
Speaker 4: a little bit conscious of that. But I do think

3157
02:37:31,200 --> 02:37:34,760
Speaker 4: I expect an aggressive Jimmy Butler, for better or worse.

3158
02:37:35,440 --> 02:37:37,560
Speaker 4: I expect that he is gonna be looking for it

3159
02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:41,640
Speaker 4: early and often. And I don't know if Tyler hero plays,

3160
02:37:41,640 --> 02:37:44,320
Speaker 4: but you mentioned to Sagre mentioning that's twenty points a

3161
02:37:44,360 --> 02:37:48,280
Speaker 4: game they haven't had since the first game of the playoffs.

3162
02:37:49,000 --> 02:37:51,400
Speaker 4: They need him. I don't know that they're gonna get

3163
02:37:51,440 --> 02:37:55,000
Speaker 4: him yet. Maybe they'll get him in game three. But Butler,

3164
02:37:55,520 --> 02:37:57,800
Speaker 4: I expect he's gonna play with his hair on fire.

3165
02:37:58,360 --> 02:38:01,360
Speaker 4: Now that may still not be enough, but that's really

3166
02:38:01,400 --> 02:38:03,840
Speaker 4: the only shot. And I will bet you Spolstra has

3167
02:38:03,879 --> 02:38:05,840
Speaker 4: told him that it's like, hey man, we rise or

3168
02:38:05,920 --> 02:38:08,480
Speaker 4: die by you right now, Like it's it's gonna be

3169
02:38:08,600 --> 02:38:12,199
Speaker 4: up to you, and if he is aggressive early, maybe

3170
02:38:12,200 --> 02:38:14,320
Speaker 4: that creates a little bit more space, a little bit

3171
02:38:14,320 --> 02:38:16,600
Speaker 4: more opportunities and takes a bit of the pressure off

3172
02:38:16,680 --> 02:38:20,120
Speaker 4: some of those other guys, and maybe they start making

3173
02:38:20,120 --> 02:38:22,240
Speaker 4: some of those shots. I don't think they will shoot

3174
02:38:22,240 --> 02:38:26,879
Speaker 4: as poorly in game two as in Game one, but

3175
02:38:27,000 --> 02:38:30,520
Speaker 4: I still right now I see the Nuggets sweeper and

3176
02:38:30,600 --> 02:38:33,360
Speaker 4: Nuggets in five, so they're gonna have to show me.

3177
02:38:33,480 --> 02:38:36,119
Speaker 4: If they win in Denver, this thing gets a little

3178
02:38:36,160 --> 02:38:39,440
Speaker 4: bit more interesting real fast. If they don't, then you're

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Speaker 4: looking at having to win four out of five to

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Speaker 4: win the championship. If you're Miami against that Nuggets team

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Speaker 4: and Yokichi Murray, and I just don't see that universe

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Speaker 4: really quick.

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Speaker 2: Game two, you have Nuggets winning. Yes, okay, I do

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 10: I have.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go Nuggets in five. I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I don't really need to repeat anything because it has

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Speaker 2: been repeated throout the sh show. I just think it's

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Speaker 2: a bad matchup. But I think Denver's that good. I

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Speaker 2: think that we can like because they're the Nuggets. Because

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Speaker 2: Jokic is so understated, I think, you know, it's easy

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Speaker 2: to underestimate how good this team is. By the way,

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Speaker 2: one score still going on. Wake Force the number one

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Speaker 2: seed of the college baseball Tournament, up twenty one to six.

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Speaker 2: In the eighth inning, there was a weather delay in

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Speaker 2: Winston Salem. Shout out to everybody staying there till the end.

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Speaker 2: But with that said, we do have to get out

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Speaker 2: of here. Want to thank the crew, Alex Tisher on

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Speaker 2: the board, Patrick Steve De Seger, Freir Torus, Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: as well. Thank you for listening. Make sure to download

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