WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Madness, Marist, & Moving Different 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:02.600 The following. 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:04.720 He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:06.359 Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:15.720 Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys, screaming live. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.400 From the Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.960 Tag Burgers, Let's go tis Ay Continent. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:32.120 Touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.839 Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.440 I unplugged my microphone or I plugged my head said 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.200 before we got in, like right as Chris was about 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.519 the countess down. So this is great, Chris says, go cole, 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.040 look at Kyle's looking at me like trying to find 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.520 the headphone jack. It's sit off season edition of Talking Cowboys, 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.280 presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Starr 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:01.640 in Friscode, Texas. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.360 At the PC Studio. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:05.520 Welcome in, everybody. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:09.720 I'm Kylie Yewen's Patrick do see Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah's 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.000 stand back, Chris Beam in the back. 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:15.240 I'm Kyle Yeoman, So glad you're with us Talking Cowboy. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.720 We're starting to represented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, the 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.440 official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:21.080 Trouble finding the jack, Yeah, I. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:22.600 Gotta find it, but I got it. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.560 I like this desk. Is this a desk? 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:27.360 The desk is so bad. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.720 I was the whole thing. Man, everybody's talking about the 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.320 absence of a desk. I don't know what that experience 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.600 is like. You don't know about struggles, Isaiah. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:36.520 You don't know the struggle, Isaiah. 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.200 Stand back, I don't. I've been spoiled by that. 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.840 You didn't grow up on the mean streets of little Elm, Texas. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.800 Like I did without a desk. I've been sitting at 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.280 the middle of twenty twenty buddy desk list. That's true. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.840 It's not the beginning of twenty twenty. And the beginning 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.040 of twenty twenty. Beamer was sending me freaking microphones and 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.520 Lava mics and all kinds of stuff to my house. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:57.720 You're like, who is this guy? 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.720 Yeah? He sent me a pair of Bull's headphones, and 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.160 I was like, you know what, I like this. I 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.120 like it, you know, I find it interesting. I still 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.640 me to find it interesting that you reappear when the 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:11.840 desk does, so you can't be with your brothers. You 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:16.320 wouldn't in the in the Yount fighting the crotch shot. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.320 I'm kind of mad that I missed that, just saying 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:21.919 I'm mad that I was a part of I wasn't 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.560 a part of that. I wanted to be a part 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.440 of that. What are you trying to show here? 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:34.359 I guess next week if you're Derek is like not 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.360 here and he's going to be looking at his phone 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:37.440 like watching our show. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.280 We're that's true. You're so bad if you every wonder 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.840 who we are. D just look at the podcast has 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.639 ranked above you. You know what I'm saying, saying, shots 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:48.480 fired early enough. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:55.600 I can't wait, Varsity if you will select travel travel team. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.440 Yeah, it felt that's what it's felt like recently. You're 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.720 in l A, you were in Indy. I was any 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:02.840 like everybody's trying. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.440 To hold it down for all of us. We would love, 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.880 we would love to travel, you know, with with the team. 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.440 Just speak for yourself that we're talking about for. 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:17.600 Brazil, I'm good man, oh Man, Welcome back in everybody. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:19.680 Glad everybody's back and safe. 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.120 And after what was a tumultuous trip to the to 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.200 the Indianapolis com NFL. 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.600 Scout and Combine Patrick, it was great. We had a 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.560 lot of fun. We saw you there quite often. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.480 Actually, I say, couldn't walk past the TV screen. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.440 Every time we walked into radio row or any kind 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.800 of media or any kind of hotel lobby or whatever 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.720 it was. I would just hear Isaiah's voice like a 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.960 ghost in the back of my head, and he was like, 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.160 but what about Michael Pitnix, What about. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:55.920 Roman? Why? Why are all these guys not the top 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:56.680 of the league right now? 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:00.720 It's like they went you dubbed face yeah and around 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:01.680 every time. 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.440 So and now it reminds you who the super Bowl 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:03.960 champions are. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.080 And then there you have it done. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.760 Let's get into some news and notes, Patrick, because the 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:10.840 last time we were on the show was. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.160 Right before we went to Indy. 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:16.120 Yeah, in my goodness, there's a lot that happened tween 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:17.280 now and then a little bit. 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.560 All right, let's try to make this as concise as possible, 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.120 so you know, yeah, yeah, no, don't do that. Yeah. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:28.440 First and foremost, George Pickens has officially been friends tag 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.880 is done now. I like that. That is what the expectations. 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.479 Style boys are looking by themselves some time. They now 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.400 have until July fifteenth to get a long term deal 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.960 done if he If a deal is not done by 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.719 July fifteenth. Then George Pickens, assuming he signs the tag 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.720 as is expected, if it were to come to that, 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:50.040 he would be fully guaranteed twenty seven point three million dollars. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.880 That's for twenty Yeah, that is a lot for twenty 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.800 twenty six. All of that is sitting against the cap 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:01.440 as we speak. I don't like those words. Don't like them. However, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.360 the Cowboys have already begun pulling expected triggers. So if 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:09.520 you follow the science on Dallas Cowboys dot com, you 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.280 ain't been going that long. Come on with it on 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.280 Dallas Cowboys dot com. You gotta blew through that, you know. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.360 Isn't it so nice of the players to allow the 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.039 Dallas Cowboys to restructure their own contracts? 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:25.719 Crazy? The selflessness is jerius, give me a bunch of cash? 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.200 Oh my god. For those that don't understand, there's a 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.320 difference between reworking a contract i e. Paycut and whatever 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.400 the case may be, versus restructure. Restructures are baked into 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.240 the negotiations when the deal is signed. The team has 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.400 that option that is exclusive to the team. They don't 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.000 need the players permission, and it's because the players are 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.280 never going to say no, because it liquid dates, more 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.400 of the contract upfront, cash in the pocket right now 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.599 versus down the road, Old darn Old darn So, Dak Prescott, 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.080 Cede Lamb, Tyler Smith. They've now had their contracts restructured, 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:00.839 freeing up roughly sixty six million dollars. And I tell you, Dak, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.679 Tyler and CD they're not exactly upset at that. Okay, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.400 So the Cowboys get salary cap space, the players get 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.680 cash up front. That works. Cowboys have several more triggers 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.040 that they can pull. Oh so Diggie Zuoa comes to mind. Yes, sir, 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.480 can you help the people and myself understand what the 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.880 salary cap position of the Dallas Cowboys. I'm I'm glad 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.640 you said that, because the Cowboys now are aware of 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.120 what the NFL salary cap is for twenty twenty six. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.720 It is a record setting three hundred and one point 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.960 two million dollars. Does that mean that there's more space? 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.480 There is more space historically more. This is also a 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.440 historic jump. This is the biggest jump in the salary 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:43.600 cap in NFL history history, literally everdo history now at 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.000 three hundred and one, let's just round it, making it 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.400 an easy number. Three hundred and one million dollar salary 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:52.240 cap space. The Cowboys before they structured any of these contracts, 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.960 but including the franchise tag already in it, they were 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.600 fifty five million dollars, fifty six million dollars in the hole. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.760 They freed up sixty six million dollars. They're ten million 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.120 in the green with more triggers that they can pull. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.440 Kenny Clark and Quinny Williams, if you extend them now 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.080 or rework their contract, one of those two things is 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.000 expected to happen. You free up almost thirty million dollars 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.400 combined between those two guys alone. And I haven't even 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.680 talked about guys like oh so odigge Zoo and oh 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.840 doron Bland, any guys that they might want to rework 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.440 a restructure. So, Cowboys face, do you think that they 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.720 can get to they as of the salary cap being 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:31.040 announced before they pull the triggers on CD Deck and 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.440 Tyler for that sixty six, they can free up one 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.800 hundred and thirty one million dollars in salary cap space 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.320 against the negative fifty five. And what is your response 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.360 to those that are like they're just kicking the can. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.640 I'll kick your can, That's my response listen, everybody is 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.120 no secret Patrick, no Sewalker does not want to hear 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.440 about damn Pie. I don't want to hear about Pie. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.120 This is not life. I don't know the other pole, 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.840 not that the colored pile, the whites only pole. I 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:03.800 want to hear about Poppy. Okay, if you know the reference, 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.600 you know the reference south South to Martin Lewrens and 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.120 Eddie Murphy. But no, seriously, I ripped. Two things are true. 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.880 The salary cap is real, but the salary cap can 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.800 and has been finessed so many times throughout the course 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.800 of the salary caps existence by teams. Talk about the 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.040 New Orleans Saints and the Drew Brees era, talk about 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.840 Saint Louis Rams in recent seasons. They know for your Eagles. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.040 They do it every year, and everyone says, oh, well, 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.400 the bill comes due. Well, yeah, theoretically the bill comes due, 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.720 but it doesn't matter if the bill comes due. When 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.240 next year the salary cap goes up exponentially again, and 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.319 you have new TV contracts and things like that, sponsorship 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.120 deals that are coming in. It all works itself out organically. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.520 Plus you have organic attrition in the roster. There are 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.360 players who are on the Cap right now, who won't 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.560 be on the team next year, be it expirational contract 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.800 or waving of that player, so many machinations that the 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:59.000 average any die hard fan. The fellow capologists also understand 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.680 that this is not an issue as much as casual 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.320 fans would believe. And that's why when you hear Jerry 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.400 Jones speaking from the combine, even before so Stephen Jones, 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:12.280 they're saying, even if George Pickens was forced, forced, even 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.200 if he chose to play on the twenty seven point 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.320 three million dollar franchise tag, and this is a direct 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.839 quote for Stephen Jones, we can still do everything we 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.360 need to do, end quote Stephen Jones. Jerry Jones saying 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.840 things like that's not going to stop us from quote 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.080 unquote busting the budget, doing everything we can because right 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.079 now needs to be the time. 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.040 And I agree, and I think one of the things 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.840 that people are not necessarily focusing on that Jerry said 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.640 on the bus with us the other day, and the 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.280 quote that came out of that is like, I'm I 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:41.040 could see us. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.480 Being aggressive in free agency. 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.840 Like that was the quote that blew up, and everybody 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.880 kind of like hung their hat on that. The part 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.120 of that conversation. I believe it was in the same 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:54.560 answer he said, I'm willing to wager my future. Yeah, 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.839 he said, I'm willing to dig into the future and 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.079 the budget. This is paraphrasing, of course, the fact that 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.640 he's said that, that's the first time I've ever seen 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:04.280 heard him. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.840 I was about to ask the question because you guys, 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.400 you gentlemen, strapping young men, have opportunity to speak with 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.840 him strectly and have been around him for a number 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:17.760 of years now, there is and obviously we have information 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.120 that we can always you know, put forward to the public. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.719 But what would you guys say or what would you 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.960 guys convey to the general public about what you guys 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.439 have seen from Double J from the past, you know, 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.559 when he was just you know, kind of throwing out headliner, 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.839 you know, comments and quotes versus the vibes that you 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.760 guys get now and when he speaks like like, can 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.520 you guys, can you guys descriptively convey that. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.760 I'm gonna let you answer, But I've got something like 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.559 cut and dry here that I've I've been really like 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.560 chewing on some Well, I want. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:51.880 You to be able to well, I just want to 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.000 say that. I think there's a lot of responsibility taken 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.520 in the response that he's given so far this offseason. 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.000 I think he acknowledged that things didn't go their way 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.640 last season because of the things that they needed to 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.719 go right for them, like the health of Revel, the 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.520 health of Overshown, the signing of certain linebackers that they 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.840 thought we were going to contribute, the signing of iber Flus, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.480 who they thought was going to turn things around on 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:18.319 defense for all intentsive purposes. Now the rhetoric is that, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.680 you know, we can't rely on that anymore. We can't 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.000 rely on the chance that these things are going to 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.679 go our way. We can't take a shot on red 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.599 shirt players that are going to contribute, or guys that 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.880 we have to wait until we tend to start contributing. 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:33.880 We need guys that are ready to go right now. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:38.000 My favorite quote from Jerry in that one hour bus 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.440 conversation was we got to go this year. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.040 Come on, man, It's the first time I've heard them 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:52.520 take responsibility, specific specific responsibility, but also specific examples and 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.719 basically say they were wrong. Yes, that's the first time 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.920 I've ever heard them do that in a consistent manner. 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.120 So and we've heard that conversation from Will McLay and 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:04.520 Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones in. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.720 The past, where you talk about alignment right top to bottom. 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.600 You're aligned from the front office to the scouting department, 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.880 to the coaching staff to the players. And in the 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.800 past there's probably been one or two of those things aligned, 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.840 but not all four. Every couple of years you might 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:21.599 see all four aligned, and that's when you get the 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.199 twenty sixteens. That's when you get the twenty twenty threes. 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.560 That's when you get the seasons that go really well 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:28.360 and things are kind of rolling in the right direction, 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.400 but then when one of those. 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:31.920 Slips out of place, then you're not there. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.800 I feel like they're getting back to that same spot 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.360 despite what season they had in twenty twenty five, because 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.199 you're hearing the same thing from Shody, you're hearing the 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.079 same thing from the front office, you're hearing the same 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:44.040 thing from Will McClay. 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:45.080 Top to bottom. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.360 They haven't been good enough, that's what they've been talking about, 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.120 and they're changing. They're changing ways that they've done things 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:53.520 consistently over. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.000 The last decade. The red Shirt players was a big one. 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.599 I asked that question on the bus for a reason, like, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:02.000 have you changed the way that you're looking at medically 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.080 flagged players, whether it be in free agency or the draft, 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:06.720 And he said, yeah, you're not gonna see us take 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:07.640 any red shirt players. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.920 And of course fans love that because. 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:13.120 I jerked out of the type of thing, and that's 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.160 nothing against the players they've taken in the past. I mean, 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.080 Savona revel is one of the guys they've talked about 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.480 glowingly as a possible second year jump. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.120 He was a medically red flag player. 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.959 But this year, knowing the type of quarterback that you have, 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.360 the type of offense you have, the type of over 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.559 arching talent you have on defense, despite the lack of 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.360 production as a whole last year, I think they see 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:35.679 this as a window. 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.559 But this window is going to close quickly. And that's 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:39.480 why they're saying. 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.160 Forget all the future, forget what we're going to wager 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.120 in the future, We've got to go now. And that's 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.040 the first time I've really heard that. I said this 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.040 on this show a couple of weeks back. I will 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:51.880 believe it when I see it in free agency, and 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.360 I still feel that way, of course, but this is 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.240 this does feel a little different. 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:56.960 It really does. 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:01.480 Listen, this is the moment that it's very much show me, right, 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.040 it's very much show me. Yeah, hear you, We hear you, 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:05.160 We hear you, show me. 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.800 I would be more disappointed this year if they don't 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.400 get aggressive. But based on the build up and based 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.640 on the way that they're saying things here, then I 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:15.720 was even in the all in year in the kind 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.000 of actually twenty twenty three and they're trying to push 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.920 the chips to the middle of the table, We're gonna 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.560 spend a lot, and then they don't. If they do 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.960 that this year and it's a dud and free agency, 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:25.720 I would be more dissip Yeah. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:29.000 And I agree because the vernacular that they're using this 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.080 year is different than that year. That year it was 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.800 all in, and then it was Jerry kind of walking back, Well, 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.000 what's your definition of all in? Yeah, Websters defines all 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.880 in as da da da da dad. Now it's it's 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.680 much different and everybody's in lockstep. And when you see 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.880 them being willing to again move on from Eberflus after 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.200 one season, when you see them early get Javonte Williams 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.080 done and now comes to bigger question, Okay, are you 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.760 gonna wait until training camp for this George Pickens thing 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.360 to be resolved or are you not? Brandon Novry, there's 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.600 a great likelihood that at some point today they're going 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.680 to put a second round tender on him, possibly TJ 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.840 Bass as well. Does does that mean those things need 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.560 to continue to roll along intil the summer? No, get 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.440 those deals done, get them out the way, free up 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.480 your salary cap in addition to the other triggers that 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.360 you have, so that when legal tampering starts on March ninth, 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.360 you're one of the first ones out the gate. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:21.920 I foresee. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:26.640 And I asked that question because it like, like most 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.040 people right kind of show me right. I don't. But 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:30.880 then when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys, I hear 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:35.080 what you're saying all to between between the information that 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.320 we get the back end and how I see people 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.200 move around here now in terms of the executives, I 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.480 would be shocked if we don't see action as soon 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:50.640 as free agency opens up. I genuinely believe that there's 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.360 gonna be a heavy hitter day one soon as it 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.680 opens up day one, and I think that is going 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.240 to be the trigger that kind of sends a bat 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.280 signal in the air to the remain of the free 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:05.040 agents that would potentially be great ad disges for the 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.000 Dallas Cowboys that might get a little bit more money 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.920 somewhere else. But if they see that player or players 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.920 come and sign with Dallas, they're gonna be like, oh yeah, 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.720 I need It's a recruiting tool, the right to get 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.120 in on it. It's a recruiting tool. So the moves 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.800 that they make on day one a free agency, I 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.720 think are going to literally send out morse code to 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.520 the remainder of the free agents that would there are 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.400 in a financial position to take a little bit of 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.760 a hit there to come join something. And I'm talking 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.200 about defense. I'm not talking about offense. We're all talking 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.840 about defense, right, So, I think there's gonna be one 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.440 heck of a linebacker that I get signed. I think 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.040 there's gonna be one heck of a nickel I guess 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.120 heck of a safety to get signed. And I think 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.200 there's gonna be one heck of an outside backer slash 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.400 pass round. Well to that last point, you just said, 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.920 one heck of a outside linebacker slash pass or sure 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.000 don't take trades off the table in this in this 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.280 process as well, because free agency is one thing and 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.200 they're looking at that, but they've continuously said they're not 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.840 unwilling to come up off one of those first round 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.960 picks in free agency if it for the right person. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.080 So if you want to max out and doing so 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.760 then you know by all means. But my point being, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.119 and I love that you brought the soup because we 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.280 were talking about this last week. Options. You have options 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.880 now in safety realm safety doesn't look great and free 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:21.120 tocy right now. Linebackers linebacker, linebacker like spectacular. Oh there's 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.720 there's two guys. Yeah, I know, and I speak on 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.240 those two guys on Open Market series on Dallas Cowboys 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:37.280 dot com. Bro ain't offenses if you add just imagine 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.200 two dred headed linebackers. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.160 Oh my god, Oh. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.920 My god, you're a Harris And I know they're getting 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:51.920 Getting both of the gentlemen that I would love to 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.000 see on this defense would be too expensive, I'm pretty 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:55.840 sure at that position. But if you were able to 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.359 get both of those gentlemen at the second level home, 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.280 we credit I will say the energy to Isaiah's point, 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:04.960 and this is why we have to we have to 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:09.080 balance what we're saying, because Isaiah, Kyle, Josh and myself 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.040 we are all of the same ilk in that show 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.119 us we heard it all before. That is true. It 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:19.720 is also true, though, that the air feels different. It 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.119 feels like more than anything, Jerry is he's facing his 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.880 own mortality. He doesn't have time for a bad time, 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.040 and he's realizing it more and more. Dak Prescott, he's 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.240 in his prime. How many more prime years of Dak 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.879 Prescott are you willing to waste? One of Jerry's biggest 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.760 regrets in his career has to do with wasting Tony 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.919 romo career. Does he now want a second franchise quarterbacks 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.199 career wasted on his watch? No, So it feels as 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.080 if they're moving different. They're definitely talking different. Now it's 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:48.400 time to put the rubber to the road. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:50.520 My thing is, as far as free agency goes, I 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.760 don't want another situation where it's like we're talking this 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.880 big game and then it comes free and then it's 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.400 you know, we start signing guys, but it's those guys 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.359 that you don't really know their name, and it's like, oh, 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.920 well he could maybe, and no, we're gonna get some 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:05.919 really good dudes. 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:07.600 Familiar names. 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.280 Yeah, I foresee that being the case. 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:10.840 Maybe some former enemies. 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.680 I don't know, but probably at least one of those. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.280 Yes, you're gonna start hearing those names. That's like, oh, 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.440 that's a that's a player that is a certified player 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.920 of the league, that has the pedigree that can contribute 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.359 to a defense right now, not the hope that this 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.960