Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why and look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that? Culture? Yeah? Goodness? Culture calling? Okay, so
Speaker 1: much queendom to discuss a lot of queendom. Do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about my queendom first? I would like
Speaker 1: to talk about your queens, which is my which is
Speaker 1: sort of my bass tambre on the Sunday Afternoon based
Speaker 1: queen Bass queen. You know, had a couple sort of
Speaker 1: coping cocktails last night. Hell fucking yeah. First of all,
Speaker 1: let me just raise a fist and say, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, fucking right, far h y f r. What
Speaker 1: were the cocktails? You know? First I started off with
Speaker 1: the bourbon, and then miss Chloe Kardashian came up to
Speaker 1: me and she said, why are you drinking that? That's
Speaker 1: so sad? Drink Champs with me, shut the funk up.
Speaker 1: And then okay, I'm sorry. That was like my seamless
Speaker 1: way of slipping in that like him through a party
Speaker 1: and it was really lovely. Um and Chloe came over
Speaker 1: you almost like, don't drink sad bourbon, drink happy shamps.
Speaker 1: Chloe Good Nights was like slay can we We had
Speaker 1: to give it up for Chloe and let me just
Speaker 1: say the whole Kardashians, they're an industry. Wow, they really
Speaker 1: made they made so much lemonade out they really did. Honestly,
Speaker 1: let me just be real, please. The lay person would
Speaker 1: sort of um ascribe Kim's success to a piece of
Speaker 1: revenge porn like her like having to like having to
Speaker 1: like deal with that that is insane to think about.
Speaker 1: Like here, I am standing a billionaire. I apologize that
Speaker 1: it's fully dissonant with my values, but like she's like
Speaker 1: but truly all weeks she was so across the board.
Speaker 1: Everyone was like, Wow, she's really great, and I just
Speaker 1: I'm so delighted, and the and the Kardashians were wonderful.
Speaker 1: Was Chris Chris was there, Chris was a Good Nights
Speaker 1: with Us. Chris turns to me and goes, you're so funny.
Speaker 1: I love watching you. Wow, good Chris. That's that's not
Speaker 1: that's not no. That was a really good Chris. That
Speaker 1: was almost as good as Selma Blair's Cris. That was
Speaker 1: That was a Lisa Barlow sort of you do you
Speaker 1: do a Lisa? We can't be heartbroken right now. I'm heartbrok.
Speaker 1: I'm literally I'm literally heartbroken right now right now. I'm
Speaker 1: so upset Andrew, what area you're my friend, Kilo. But
Speaker 1: we it's like so embarrassing, like it's like when we
Speaker 1: had It's like literally like when we had cecily on
Speaker 1: and I listened to it after and I was doing
Speaker 1: my Ramona opposite Hardemona, and I'm like, I literally was listening.
Speaker 1: I was like, Matt, shut up. There's an icon impressionist
Speaker 1: right there. Shut up. So I to do my Lisa
Speaker 1: when we're not you are? I owe my fucking life too.
Speaker 1: Gearst Gears, you have you have. You are the queendom.
Speaker 1: You are the queendom. So can we just talk about
Speaker 1: the fact how topical we are because previously on Lost
Speaker 1: Cultures this first of all, we have bestowed Adele with
Speaker 1: the Queen Queendom Award, the Lost Cultur Award, Queendom Award.
Speaker 1: So it's the first award we've given out in the
Speaker 1: l c c A S. And it wasn't one that
Speaker 1: we announced, but we did sort of reveal that the
Speaker 1: honorary Award, it's like the Gene Herschel Humanitarian Oscar for
Speaker 1: the Lost culture, this golden globe. I'm sorry, No, we've
Speaker 1: fallen out of favor with the Golden The Golden Clube
Speaker 1: have fallen out of our favor. But it's like, we
Speaker 1: give the Queendom Award, then this happens. I'm getting chills,
Speaker 1: Mama when I tell you. I was watching the Insta
Speaker 1: Alive live and turned it off and then this happened.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this will be so powerful. Never sounded
Speaker 1: better the way I'm already somehow, the tone is even
Speaker 1: more pure than it has been in the past. Never
Speaker 1: sounded this healthy. This this pre chorus, what a beautiful
Speaker 1: build release, I mean, and then she stopped. She stops
Speaker 1: it right at the course Queendom Award. I mean you
Speaker 1: said this. You and I FaceTime, had a long, lovely
Speaker 1: FaceTime on Friday, and it's important to catch up with
Speaker 1: sisters when you're not on Mike or on Live off Mike,
Speaker 1: when it gets real. Sometimes I feel like our friendship
Speaker 1: we need those intimate moments where you know there aren't
Speaker 1: ears and eyes in the room. More intimacy now. But
Speaker 1: it's actually really culture number seventeen more now world culture
Speaker 1: number nine. You said you said to me, uh, we
Speaker 1: did you aready say a number? I'm sorry, it's both.
Speaker 1: It's both what did you say. I don't think you
Speaker 1: said seventeen and sorry It's okay, It's both. It's crazy
Speaker 1: how this woman just knows exactly what we need. Literally,
Speaker 1: like she occupies a space that I don't even understand,
Speaker 1: Like how no one else is doing this. Like look,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this. I love Kelly Clarkson more
Speaker 1: than anyone on this planet. Why why are we getting
Speaker 1: another Christmas album? I guess that's my thing is. It's
Speaker 1: just like, please God, Like I just want a regular
Speaker 1: album because I know she was so raw lately and
Speaker 1: I know she was writing so much. I just want
Speaker 1: to hear that album because I know she could be
Speaker 1: giving like this, but she's fresh. She think about this.
Speaker 1: Adele's is coming out with this album when I presume
Speaker 1: will be a lot about the divorce, like years, like
Speaker 1: three years after the divorce or something like that. Kelly
Speaker 1: is freshly separated, so get Let's give her time to
Speaker 1: just date on this. Maybe she wants a Christmas oup,
Speaker 1: it's fine, let's not. I also respect the fact that
Speaker 1: she is, like, let me not just suddenly put all
Speaker 1: my feelings about my divorce into this album and then
Speaker 1: put it out. Let me consider what I want to
Speaker 1: put out because it's actually my kids are involved, like
Speaker 1: he's involved, Like I don't know what I'll stand by,
Speaker 1: So it's or sometimes it's kind of like it's like
Speaker 1: whenever there's like a divorce and then a piece of
Speaker 1: work or like a hard time, and that's always a
Speaker 1: hart to the divorce feels raw in a way where
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, like intruding. Yeah, everyone becomes no a
Speaker 1: bomb back it like you know, it's it's it's crazy anyway,
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe the queendom and like I I'm so
Speaker 1: excited for that. I can't even tell you thrilled. I
Speaker 1: mean we've discussed two a queen so far, kim kay,
Speaker 1: and now the third queen is of course our guests.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, she's got queen. Really the queen period,
Speaker 1: there's no queen of there's no queen at queen in
Speaker 1: like it's the queen period period which ends a sentence.
Speaker 1: It's actually called thirty period period, which which a sentence.
Speaker 1: After that, there's nothing to say. What can we what
Speaker 1: can we say about our guests? I mean, she she
Speaker 1: had one of I think one of my most favorite
Speaker 1: ten years on SNL. She was my favorite, which is
Speaker 1: why it's always weird whenever we're like hanging out together
Speaker 1: like around and like it's crazy to like be with
Speaker 1: like her and eight and Sudy. A few weeks ago
Speaker 1: at the Emmy's for a pre Emmy's party and we
Speaker 1: all just like met GARSTONA was like, wait, I'm what
Speaker 1: is this about? Because you know, also the guest is
Speaker 1: iconic Housewives fans sorry readers. And then um, and oh
Speaker 1: my god, I just started watching we can talk about
Speaker 1: this what we do in the Shadows and she is
Speaker 1: iconically in the was one of the bad episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's so good and I think you should leave. Um,
Speaker 1: she just had her series. Um, I love this for you.
Speaker 1: Get ordered. I love this for you. No, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying oop, you can say it. It's been announced, honey,
Speaker 1: please six I want you to talk about it. I'm
Speaker 1: on it. First of all, start first, my sister. That's first,
Speaker 1: my sister, Matt Rogers. Yeah, I Love this for you,
Speaker 1: which will be on showtime. It is shooting very soon. Matt,
Speaker 1: what else do you want to say about our guests
Speaker 1: before we bring her on that there's a brand new pod.
Speaker 1: How did we get weird right here on the Big
Speaker 1: Money Players Network, also presented by Our Heart Radio that
Speaker 1: she has with her damn brother Jonah, which thrill and
Speaker 1: watch the space because you might see one of your
Speaker 1: last cultures those hosts on it. Let's just say there's
Speaker 1: something in my Google cow that indicates that might be true.
Speaker 1: My god, it's time to bring in the guests. Okay,
Speaker 1: Queen the Queen, and it's important to note that we're
Speaker 1: actually giving the second Queendom Award right now to Vanessa,
Speaker 1: the winner of the second ever Queendom Award. Please welcome
Speaker 1: into your ears, Vanessa. Oh my gosh, I'm I'm honored,
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled. I can't I can't tell you how excited
Speaker 1: I am to be here with these two queens feeling
Speaker 1: feeling against the slur. As soon as I said it,
Speaker 1: I thought, don't do that. I'm just thrilled to be here. Vanessa.
Speaker 1: You just, first of all, let's just peel back the
Speaker 1: curtain a little bit. I was not feeling I'm not
Speaker 1: feeling great this morning, and Matt knew that, and um
Speaker 1: Sunday Saturday post Saturday, some disappointments were a foot in
Speaker 1: my own personal journey and Vanessa came on an immediately
Speaker 1: sort of like slapped a fucking ointment on my nerves
Speaker 1: and was like, it's fine. It was. It was. It
Speaker 1: was a really lovely sort of like pep talk, and
Speaker 1: I can't I can't thank you enough and truly that
Speaker 1: was so nice. Well I first of all, and I
Speaker 1: this is when I came on. I just wanted to say, like,
Speaker 1: just the fact that you can do this on a
Speaker 1: Sunday in the days of like a Sunday where you
Speaker 1: just did a show and you have another show coming
Speaker 1: the following week, Like I just the fact that you're
Speaker 1: here to do this is so incredible. Was your typical
Speaker 1: sun I mean, I know you've probably like closed the
Speaker 1: memory book on this and like you don't want to
Speaker 1: think about it, but we don't know what were your Sundays?
Speaker 1: Like what did you usually do? By the end? What
Speaker 1: did you do? I would sleep in. I would order
Speaker 1: in probably a big old cream cheese. What kind of
Speaker 1: cream cheese? Okay? Here here I would either be like
Speaker 1: a sesame or poppy seed bagel with regular cream cheese,
Speaker 1: or it would be um, like a raisin it is
Speaker 1: it a cinnamon raisin bagel with like some kind of
Speaker 1: like a walnut raising cream cheese. This is New York,
Speaker 1: you know, It's like you can get that. It's so
Speaker 1: good here, and now I'm in l A and it's like,
Speaker 1: forget it. I actually do live near to bagel places,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I'm not gonna yeah, and but I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna even wait bagel. I'd
Speaker 1: order my bagel, but I would sleep in so late.
Speaker 1: I'd order a bagel and I would um, and then
Speaker 1: I think I would just like I would watch TV,
Speaker 1: and then I think I would order in dinner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was an ordering moment. There's no you are just
Speaker 1: so drained physically and emotionally after a week, even if
Speaker 1: you had the greatest show of your life, like you're
Speaker 1: just in a daze on Sunday, and just the fact
Speaker 1: that you can be here and be present is incredible.
Speaker 1: How do you know if I'm present, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you aren't present. It's incredible that you're here. I
Speaker 1: don't put pressure on yourself to be present. Okay, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: my gosh, that's so nice. Anyway, not to make this
Speaker 1: about me, I would I also just want to say
Speaker 1: any show you're in, You're just such a joy to
Speaker 1: see on camera. I know I said that to you earlier.
Speaker 1: It's truly like I feel safe, I feel joy, I
Speaker 1: feel I feel so happy whenever you're on camera. We
Speaker 1: are coming from the one, coming from the oh. And
Speaker 1: I guess we've got Matt Rogers over here, who's also
Speaker 1: such a joy. Sorry, I sure truly a talent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sing here too, in the fact that, like you're like,
Speaker 1: I get to have the show where like the world
Speaker 1: gets to fucking appreciate this. Come on, Jim. Sorry, I
Speaker 1: I guess I'm so overdue. I will say this, like
Speaker 1: Sudie Green, beloved friend of all of us, is in
Speaker 1: the room, and so I was sort of like, I'm
Speaker 1: not annoying about like how the room is going, but
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, what's up, Like what's going on? Like,
Speaker 1: like how's it going? Like that? And what she gives me,
Speaker 1: I'm like so excited. How how is it going? In
Speaker 1: your estimation? It's going really well. Our writer's room is
Speaker 1: like so obviously cut is in there and we are
Speaker 1: how grateful are we? And we're having so much fun.
Speaker 1: The only thing that you know, we have to do
Speaker 1: it over Zoom and it's like we did just have
Speaker 1: like an in person hang, and it was like everyone
Speaker 1: is so tall and gorgeous. I'm not try to tageous everybody. Well,
Speaker 1: we went through our heights before we met, because that's
Speaker 1: the thing I think really finding. I'm like, when you
Speaker 1: meet people of resume, you just have no idea how
Speaker 1: tall they are. And I'm not everybody. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to be like, um hightist, Like I'm not saying like
Speaker 1: it's I don't I don't care. It's just like everybody
Speaker 1: in person. It was so beautiful to see everybody, but truly,
Speaker 1: like everybody is just um, just so funny and fun.
Speaker 1: And the fact that we've been able to have like
Speaker 1: such a fun him that I look forward to every
Speaker 1: day and and I most of these people I've only
Speaker 1: had ever met on zoom is really incredible. It's really fun,
Speaker 1: and we're writing some fairy fun stuff for your character.
Speaker 1: If I'm excited, I can't wait. Jennifer Lewis, Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, Jennifer Lewis, I mean when we heard that,
Speaker 1: it was like I just I couldn't believe it, Like
Speaker 1: I gasped, you know what we have to do, Bowen,
Speaker 1: we have to listen to her audio books reading because
Speaker 1: you have to hear her reading. You have to hear
Speaker 1: her reading it. Yes, yeah, of course. Yeah. It's called
Speaker 1: The Mother of Black Hollywood. It's like really good. I
Speaker 1: remember when she was on the View a few years ago,
Speaker 1: like talking about it, and it's clear like the way
Speaker 1: even Whoopie was treating her. I'm a View like historian
Speaker 1: by the way, um like, and the way Whoopie was like,
Speaker 1: Whoopy was so excited she was there, and like she
Speaker 1: just has like this star energy that's going to be
Speaker 1: so good for her part and so so exciting. And
Speaker 1: the whole cast obviously l O L freakishly good. But
Speaker 1: you know who I was obsessed is in the run,
Speaker 1: Ali lie Begott. Oh what's her deal? Tell me both
Speaker 1: of you. Okay, she's a poet, she's an artist. She's like,
Speaker 1: she's so funny. She she um, I had never met her.
Speaker 1: Our our showrunner Jesse Klein, incredible icon. Yes, her book
Speaker 1: is so fucking we we've already talked about it's incredible.
Speaker 1: She she knew Ali from they had both written together
Speaker 1: on Transparent, and Ali is like she's incredible. We all
Speaker 1: want to be best friends with her, like up and down.
Speaker 1: One day, Udy said to me the study was like,
Speaker 1: who do you know? Who do you think I want
Speaker 1: to be best friends that? I was like, Ali, who
Speaker 1: do you think I want to be best friends with?
Speaker 1: I just told she said something like that. I just
Speaker 1: told the whole room. I was like, you guys know,
Speaker 1: I'm going hard after being best friends with all of you.
Speaker 1: I think if we were in person, i'd go like
Speaker 1: harder after it. But this is by the a bow
Speaker 1: and something I used to do on U S and
Speaker 1: now like whenever we would have like a host that
Speaker 1: was like kind of like around my age, like a
Speaker 1: woman kind of like close to my age. Of course
Speaker 1: I knew like I was so hard try and be
Speaker 1: their best friend, like I didn't like I would always
Speaker 1: do to scarlet your hands and when she was there,
Speaker 1: I would do it to like Anne Hathaway. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think of, like, oh my god, I bet Ann Hathaway,
Speaker 1: you can make it work. Oh. I think I think
Speaker 1: we definitely have each other's numbers. But it would just
Speaker 1: be like I would go so hard after these like
Speaker 1: because I would be like they're like me if I
Speaker 1: had it together, you know great? But is that how
Speaker 1: is that how it started with you and Schumer? No?
Speaker 1: You guys just like you you just did the movie.
Speaker 1: It started a little differently with her because I literally
Speaker 1: I met Amy when I auditioned for train Wreck, and
Speaker 1: then when I did, you s so good, you literally
Speaker 1: make me laugh so much l O L. That's that's
Speaker 1: how I met Amy, And so that was like a
Speaker 1: genuine and like we became friends. But everybody else I've
Speaker 1: tried to like really force myself to be friends with them,
Speaker 1: um and I think it has. It worked a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you know, it goes so hard after them, that's okay?
Speaker 1: Is there any shame in that? Like, I don't think
Speaker 1: there's anything. No. I think like some people would sort
Speaker 1: of like I don't know, like I think that that
Speaker 1: was uncool at the show, Like why are you trying
Speaker 1: to But it's like literally people of like had sex
Speaker 1: with hosts, Like who cares that happens? I'm but I'm
Speaker 1: saying like funking, like like you know, like not but whatever, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're listening. No, we're not cutting it out. It's actually
Speaker 1: out there that people that have come on us and
Speaker 1: El So it's fine. There you go. Um, but that
Speaker 1: is hilarious. It's crazy that I will never I that
Speaker 1: won't happen for me. Yes, it will, it will. No, No,
Speaker 1: it hasn't. No, I'm saying that won't happen for me.
Speaker 1: And I'm okay with the big It's just different because
Speaker 1: like the only gay hosts that have come through the
Speaker 1: last three years have been and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: like said, there's their sisters. You know it would be
Speaker 1: we'll see who comes by. No, no, no, no no, we're
Speaker 1: not cutting a single word of it. It's getting bleaped. Wait.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you though, because you know what
Speaker 1: I always think about is your sketch with Ryan Gosling,
Speaker 1: Like the sounds like that, like that what was doing that? Like,
Speaker 1: because it's so surreal and like it to me is
Speaker 1: like one of those things where I'm watching it and
Speaker 1: it does feel like it transcended SNL for a second
Speaker 1: and became just like insane like cinema with you and
Speaker 1: Ryan like and also is such a vibe and so hot,
Speaker 1: like oh my god. Well, first of all, you know
Speaker 1: Jeremy Bailer, who's co creator of I Love This and
Speaker 1: King of all tal and gorgeous people. He's the king
Speaker 1: of all tall and gorgeous people. He's he's a gorgeous
Speaker 1: by the way, I just want to say, like I'm
Speaker 1: not I feel like there's a lot of gorgeous short
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm just saying our room happens to be
Speaker 1: tall and gorgeous. But that's not what you said. You
Speaker 1: said you said you called them all trolls. And then
Speaker 1: he's the middle finger to the zoo. I did. I
Speaker 1: gave the middle finger to the zoom as I love
Speaker 1: to do, as I keep doing. Um. We wrote that.
Speaker 1: He I mean, I love Ryan Gosling so much. He,
Speaker 1: Jeremy and I had that idea. We were like, let's
Speaker 1: write this thing. We wrote it. Um. I remember we
Speaker 1: pitched it to Ryan Gosling because we were like, wouldn't
Speaker 1: this be so funny? I think I think in the
Speaker 1: in the pitch, I had pitched like, what if you
Speaker 1: and I play a couple and we think that Santa
Speaker 1: is real? I think that was like the pitch maybe
Speaker 1: hate or something. I don't even remember exactly. So we
Speaker 1: pitched it to him that we were this couple who
Speaker 1: goes to this party and we think that Santa Claus
Speaker 1: is real, and he was like we were kind of
Speaker 1: like telling him, like it gets maybe we're like a
Speaker 1: little I can't remember exactly, but maybe we're a little
Speaker 1: like scary about it or whatever. He was like. I
Speaker 1: remember him saying, he was like it should be like
Speaker 1: Ryan was like, it should be like, um, maybe kind
Speaker 1: of natural born killers like he in something else, and
Speaker 1: we were like, yes, totally. I remember the day we
Speaker 1: were filming it. I remember talking to you know, Jill Bream,
Speaker 1: who's the Costume Dream of Costume head. She's amazing, She's incredible,
Speaker 1: and I remember her being like, Vanessa, are you nervous?
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, I'm doing good. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to film this. And and then um, I remember it
Speaker 1: was just asking you if you're well, because I think
Speaker 1: I was like is this is this just this good?
Speaker 1: Like I was just like very nervous because I knew
Speaker 1: it was going to be very intimate with Ryan all
Speaker 1: day and um, and I mean we wrote it that way.
Speaker 1: But then I remember we started filming it and he
Speaker 1: was so funny and the way that we had written
Speaker 1: it just just for for the listeners to hear, like
Speaker 1: it's like we basically it's like Ryan and I want
Speaker 1: to meet Santa. Claus Beck's character is like is like
Speaker 1: he's coming Santa's coming down soon to like a child,
Speaker 1: and we think like, oh, that's real, like real Santa's
Speaker 1: coming down soon, and it's just back planning to dress
Speaker 1: up as Santa. Then Ryan has this confrontation with him
Speaker 1: where he's like, we're Beck's like, well, it's not the
Speaker 1: real Santa to us and Beck and Ryan has has
Speaker 1: this confrontation where he's like, what the funk, like we
Speaker 1: want to meet Santa. We at no point wrote that
Speaker 1: he yells. But while we were y Ryan starts screaming
Speaker 1: a fact and like what the fuck is Santa and
Speaker 1: or whatever? I think. He screams, oh, I know what
Speaker 1: it is. He goes like something about his slayer or something,
Speaker 1: and then he goes and by like Santa doesn't have
Speaker 1: a slay or something. And then Ryan goes like, well, then,
Speaker 1: how the fund did he get here or something? I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what it is. And then Ryan proceeds
Speaker 1: to all improvised take this like huge candy cane it's
Speaker 1: filled with eminem's and just slam it down to on
Speaker 1: the table so that it breaks and like this is
Speaker 1: all Ryan improvising, and he was so funny. It was
Speaker 1: really it was so incredible and we were all just
Speaker 1: like watching him just being like, oh my god, like
Speaker 1: it was so it was just incredible, and he was
Speaker 1: so on board and he was it was just like
Speaker 1: he's just like the dream of dreams, like an actor down. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but and if fully realized Dwayne a way that like
Speaker 1: is not does not hamper in an unhampered way, you know,
Speaker 1: like he can do it all. Yes, Like I'm so
Speaker 1: jealous of people like that. And he a couple of
Speaker 1: times like picked me up like I we would. We
Speaker 1: filmed this thing where like we're dancing, like I come
Speaker 1: onto the table, he like picks me up, and I
Speaker 1: remember like feeling like, oh my god, I can't believe
Speaker 1: he can pick me up, because you know, especially when
Speaker 1: you're essentially so strong and like, you know, I was
Speaker 1: eating a lot of that like niepies. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to pick me up. But well,
Speaker 1: he's so big and strong in a movie star. He's
Speaker 1: so strong. They can afford trainers such peak physical shape
Speaker 1: in order to really continue to work at the level
Speaker 1: that they are, because all of a sudden wasn't big
Speaker 1: and strong. I don't know that his career would continue
Speaker 1: the way it does. That's say nothing of his talent.
Speaker 1: That's just the way the talented, kind, strong, strong man.
Speaker 1: Which wait, now I'm laughing because I'm thinking about you
Speaker 1: being intimate with other hosts, and now I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: the Kristen Stewart's huntin the finale of Totino's she was
Speaker 1: Sabine and you guys like have that gorgeous, like intimate
Speaker 1: sketch together where you finally like feel seen. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was such a fun The fact that we got
Speaker 1: to do like three Totinos. I guess we always did
Speaker 1: them around the super Bowl. It's one of the best
Speaker 1: recurring thing. I was always a round the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It was one of the best recurring things I think
Speaker 1: the show has ever done. So nice. We it was
Speaker 1: so it was like I wrote those with Chris and
Speaker 1: Sarah and we like I think it was initially like
Speaker 1: I just kind of wanted to do something about those
Speaker 1: super Bowl commercials and those women who are like my
Speaker 1: hungry guys, you know, and then they like took it
Speaker 1: and ran and so we did the Super Bowl activity pack,
Speaker 1: and then the next year and the next year was
Speaker 1: something spooky. It was like a horror thing. We turned
Speaker 1: into a commercial for the X Files for bringing back
Speaker 1: and then the last year it was like the thing
Speaker 1: where they we addressed like how like my character has
Speaker 1: no name and it's just like a woman woman who
Speaker 1: kind of lives to feed her hungry guys totinos and um.
Speaker 1: Christian Kristen like wanted to fuck you and on her
Speaker 1: coverage It's crazy. She was very on board. I was
Speaker 1: very important. It was it was incredible. I mean it
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, I have I gotten to like
Speaker 1: make out with the hottest hosts that have come to SNL.
Speaker 1: You have you really have? Vanessa? Can I can I
Speaker 1: just point out something and I'm sure you've heard this before,
Speaker 1: but I think something that is so like essential to
Speaker 1: like a lot of things you've done on and a
Speaker 1: lot of things that you've done outside of it is
Speaker 1: the sense so weird. But it is like I think
Speaker 1: of Laura Parsons, I think of Jacob the Vermin spa boy.
Speaker 1: It's like it's your mouth, It's you have this perfect smile,
Speaker 1: so radiant and bright. But then you know how to
Speaker 1: control it and use it depending on the choice or
Speaker 1: the character, and it's so effective and powerful. And like
Speaker 1: you and said, like, have people told you that, like
Speaker 1: commented on your mouth specifically? I get, I mean, I
Speaker 1: get a lot. I've never had my smile broken down
Speaker 1: in that way, but and I really do, I really
Speaker 1: do appreciate it because I think is so weird. So
Speaker 1: it's not weird at all. It's actually, um, I'm I'm,
Speaker 1: it's I'm registering it. And I do think that that's
Speaker 1: I do think. I mean, I think like my Miley
Speaker 1: Cyrus impression is like so helped by the fact that
Speaker 1: we have almost the same mouth. Like it's like I've
Speaker 1: always known that, you know, But it is like I've
Speaker 1: always known that since she was a little girl. I said,
Speaker 1: I have the same mouth as that kid, she said
Speaker 1: to me. Somehow we this came up that we both
Speaker 1: get lipstick on her teeth very easily. And it's I
Speaker 1: think the reason I don't want to speak for her
Speaker 1: but I want to speak for me is like I
Speaker 1: think part of the reason, um my smile is the
Speaker 1: way that it is is because I like just have
Speaker 1: the slightest bit of a over. I used to have
Speaker 1: like true buck teeth when I was little, and I
Speaker 1: wore bracest for a long time. But um, anyways, do
Speaker 1: you what a little narcissist I am that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: let me take you through the boring details. No, that No,
Speaker 1: that makes you who you are. I brought it up.
Speaker 1: I brought up your smile. I think that I I
Speaker 1: think that I wore my retainer for just post braces
Speaker 1: for just short enough that this is how things settled. Yeah. Same,
Speaker 1: I mean like I stopped wearing my retainer around for
Speaker 1: the third week and I'm like I never went back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so it's crazy. Did you have to wear nightgear?
Speaker 1: Did you have to wear the thing at night? No?
Speaker 1: But now this dentist I went to is telling me.
Speaker 1: He like looked at my express he was like, you're
Speaker 1: grinding your teeth when you sleep? Did you know that?
Speaker 1: I was like no, And he's like, you have to
Speaker 1: I might have to tell you to wear a night guard.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I have a night guard. But here's
Speaker 1: the here's the secret about nightguards. You get them and
Speaker 1: you never wear them, but you feel you feel proactive
Speaker 1: that you have one, Like mine is next to my
Speaker 1: bed and I wore it. I think the last time
Speaker 1: I wore it was probably seven months ago, and I
Speaker 1: work for one night. Good for you, I mean, good
Speaker 1: for you for even trying. Are you guys getting to this?
Speaker 1: It must be an age thing. I there are many
Speaker 1: more things I have to do, the much more maintenance
Speaker 1: that I have to do in order to get to
Speaker 1: get to bed. I gotta do like I gotta put
Speaker 1: on the white noise. I gotta put on the eyemask.
Speaker 1: I gotta like pillars have to be a certain way.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm going crazy, Like it's this hard
Speaker 1: for me to fall asleep. This is bad. No. I
Speaker 1: think that you like to be comfortable and like often
Speaker 1: have a lot on your mind, and that is you know.
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, like as you
Speaker 1: get older, like do you need to do more things
Speaker 1: in order to like feel like you need to maintain
Speaker 1: health and like, well, it's especially with skin, Like after
Speaker 1: I moved to l A, It's like it's so dry here.
Speaker 1: Now I have to do it's a it's a twenty
Speaker 1: minute process f skin. I had such an allergy thing
Speaker 1: when I moved here to like it's just like different air.
Speaker 1: It's different air. It's actually real culture number forty. It's different,
Speaker 1: different air, it's different us. Oh my god, am I
Speaker 1: allowed every guest to join us. When the guest joins in,
Speaker 1: it actually makes the rule of super rule. And so
Speaker 1: that means that that means that it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: the super world is a little bit more. But what
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, um, like anyway, like before we
Speaker 1: get into the new pot and the culture that made
Speaker 1: you say culture was for you? Was I in working
Speaker 1: on the pilot with you? Like obviously I've always like
Speaker 1: like just loved you from like your sketch work and
Speaker 1: also getting to hang out with you and work with
Speaker 1: you on Shrill like you were so funny in that part.
Speaker 1: By the way, Vanessa thought Vanessa thought I was an
Speaker 1: entertainment reporter. Well, okay, here's what happened. Remember you guys
Speaker 1: that interviewed me and Phoebe and going in for uture
Speaker 1: fast We did do that in fact, and then and
Speaker 1: then um, you like you were like in the car
Speaker 1: and you were wearing like a very cute I was
Speaker 1: wearing like a suit, and I turned to her we
Speaker 1: were going over there, and Vanessa's in this like blond Wig.
Speaker 1: And I turned to her and I go, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: mat We actually met when I interviewed you at Vulture Fest.
Speaker 1: I'm friends with Study and I'm friends with Bowen, And
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, yeah, well hi, And you could
Speaker 1: tell that she kind of thought that. I was like,
Speaker 1: and I'm here to like shadow the set, like and
Speaker 1: you guys had to share the car together. I fully
Speaker 1: thought like he was there to do a story. I'm
Speaker 1: just like arriving to the shrill set in a fucking
Speaker 1: to write a piece. Then I found out who he
Speaker 1: was and that he was a brilliant actor. He's a
Speaker 1: co star now. Anyway, what I'm getting. What I'm getting
Speaker 1: at is like, um, in doing the show with you,
Speaker 1: I'm really so excited for everyone to see it. Like obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, for reasons. I think the show was great.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to be on it. But what I really
Speaker 1: am excited about is I feel like it's going to
Speaker 1: show everyone like this completely other skill set you have,
Speaker 1: Like we shot this scene at the end of the pilot,
Speaker 1: like not without giving too much away, like where I
Speaker 1: was just watching you when I was like really on
Speaker 1: the verge of tears, I was just like you're just
Speaker 1: so good and you so deserve to have like this,
Speaker 1: like starring vehicle. I feel like everyone's like it's about time.
Speaker 1: And then I'm just so excited to be a part
Speaker 1: of it and also to eventually trap the entire cast
Speaker 1: and start to have Housewives viewing parties. It's a housewives cast.
Speaker 1: It's that true housewives cast, I mean big housewives cast.
Speaker 1: I feel like a bit like everyone's a every Molly obsessed,
Speaker 1: famously obsessed um and aid you and i Aiden could
Speaker 1: get into it. I mean, if she's not until we're
Speaker 1: getting her in, and if Jennifer Lewis isn't into it,
Speaker 1: you gotta get she's gonna love it. I want to
Speaker 1: hear her. I want to hear her take. I want
Speaker 1: to hear her take so badly. But you were making
Speaker 1: me laughtering that scenes so much. I remember you were
Speaker 1: That was one that was very fun. That was fun.
Speaker 1: But I literally I'm just so I'm just so like
Speaker 1: blown away by you, and like I can't worry. I
Speaker 1: just did in the show was so different from any
Speaker 1: other things, and it's just so great and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: so excited. Well, you're so funny in the pilot and
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I mean, I still remember your audition
Speaker 1: where you like did this thing with your eyes when
Speaker 1: you're offended, and you went like and obviously the listener
Speaker 1: can't see, but you like did this thing with your
Speaker 1: eyes where you were like expressing so much by just
Speaker 1: like opening and closing them in such a specific way.
Speaker 1: You were like, and it was I had never seen
Speaker 1: anyone do that before. I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: We had a little fun We had a fun little
Speaker 1: um audition together when I came in and we got
Speaker 1: to improvise together. We got to improvise. But this is
Speaker 1: a beautiful comedy acting tip for Vanessa, it's the smile.
Speaker 1: For Matt, it's the eyes. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is for me, but you know, everyone, find your one
Speaker 1: feature and find your body part that works best and
Speaker 1: like use it more. So. I guess that would be
Speaker 1: my tip for everyone out there that's that's listening to
Speaker 1: the podcast is if you want to be an actor,
Speaker 1: really lean into which body part is number one on
Speaker 1: you and make it work for them. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, exactly, So see what I'm doing sort
Speaker 1: of like that, and that I wouldn't have book it
Speaker 1: was about the eyes and that audition exactly exactly. I
Speaker 1: think it's time to ask the question. This is a
Speaker 1: big question. The question is Vanessa Bayer, what is the
Speaker 1: culture that made you say culture is for me? Okay?
Speaker 1: I thought a lot about this. I hope, so, I
Speaker 1: fucking hope so, okay invited you here at least I
Speaker 1: can do. Okay, I want to kind of go through
Speaker 1: my thought process with you. I UM, I was thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, when I was little, I was like a
Speaker 1: little performer, and I really loved you know, what's love
Speaker 1: got to do with it? My Tina Turner. I really
Speaker 1: loved Like a Virgin by Madonna. I would I would
Speaker 1: pair it these songs a lot, even though I didn't
Speaker 1: really fully understand their meanings. Um. Listening to Dave Holmes,
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, I really loved Annie too, and I um,
Speaker 1: as you can imagine, when I was younger, I had
Speaker 1: short hair and got a lot of um comments. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of people would say looked like orphan
Speaker 1: any um. Not to brag, but so, but then I
Speaker 1: was really thinking beautiful, one of the most beautiful one
Speaker 1: in the world. I really was like, what really is
Speaker 1: like the moment, like the moment, okay, and what I
Speaker 1: think it is the audition scene in Flashdance and a
Speaker 1: Flashdance when she goes into do her dance audition, the
Speaker 1: Irene Kara Kara What a Feeling And she goes in there,
Speaker 1: and I remember watching it several times with my mom
Speaker 1: and she Um, she goes to do her dance audition.
Speaker 1: She's it's like a room full of executives. It's the
Speaker 1: most unfriendly looking room. Um, they're just watching her. It's
Speaker 1: like almost like it's like a dark kind of business
Speaker 1: e looking room away. Our audition room would never look away.
Speaker 1: An audition room would never It's like an it's like
Speaker 1: a wood floor, like it's not a room meant for dance.
Speaker 1: And she goes in there and she puts her her
Speaker 1: What a Feeling record into the record player and she
Speaker 1: starts to dance and she falls and she says, can
Speaker 1: I go again? And then she starts the song again
Speaker 1: and she proceeds to do the most beautiful, exciting dance
Speaker 1: and the and the auditors are going crazy. They're having
Speaker 1: the time of their lives. She's having the time of
Speaker 1: her life. And she clearly got into the school or
Speaker 1: what it was undisputable. She runs out, she's so excited
Speaker 1: because she got it. I to me, I mean, I
Speaker 1: remember I had that cassette tape. This really aging me.
Speaker 1: I had that cassette tape, and I remember as a
Speaker 1: kid like making up dances to like all of the
Speaker 1: all of the all of the songs on that cassette,
Speaker 1: especially what a feeling, and just like that to me
Speaker 1: is that's the moment that I was like, Oh, this
Speaker 1: is for me. This is the perfect answer, because you
Speaker 1: can tie it back to you actually being inspired to
Speaker 1: replicate what was happening in the movie. You were you
Speaker 1: were activated by it. That's amazing, so activated. She was
Speaker 1: such an underdog. She went in she didn't have the
Speaker 1: same training as everybody else, and there she was winning
Speaker 1: over everybody's hearts. But what she brought was raw power
Speaker 1: and raw talent, and she brought the intent when she
Speaker 1: went in there, she said, there's no way I'm not
Speaker 1: getting into this program. I'm getting it. How did it
Speaker 1: make you feel like? Did it say? Did you sort
Speaker 1: of think like that was when you got really excited
Speaker 1: just just audition. I just I feel like I just
Speaker 1: felt like she she deserves to be there, and she
Speaker 1: got there, and I think, I don't know, it made
Speaker 1: me just feel so things. Things do, things do work out.
Speaker 1: Things did make me And you know, I guess in
Speaker 1: some ways. I mean later my life, when I was
Speaker 1: living in Chicago and auditioning for commercials and stuff. Guess
Speaker 1: what I liked auditioning? You know, you always get it.
Speaker 1: Did you ever listen to what a feeling before big auditions?
Speaker 1: M think about that. Can I tell you something that
Speaker 1: is so deeply embarrassing before auditions when I lived in
Speaker 1: Chicago and possibly before I auditioned for us, and know
Speaker 1: this is so embarrassing. I can't believe that you have
Speaker 1: to say it because then I'm gonna tell you what
Speaker 1: song I listened to before things, and it's going to
Speaker 1: be more embarrassing, and I'll tell you my mind's even
Speaker 1: more embarrassing. So yeah, I feel so confident mine's going
Speaker 1: to be the most embarrassing. The readers are going to vote,
Speaker 1: So basically, after we all say our things, we're gonna
Speaker 1: put a pull out on the Lost Cultures just Twitter
Speaker 1: and follow us at Lost Culture, rest us on Twitter
Speaker 1: and on Instagram, and the readers are all going to
Speaker 1: vote to see who's the most fucking humiliated answer to
Speaker 1: this question, So that'll be a fun in active element. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna share it. I can't look at you while
Speaker 1: i'm sharing it. This song that I used to listen
Speaker 1: to before auditions was that song Suddenly I See Yes Suddenly.
Speaker 1: It really pumped me up. I listened to it so
Speaker 1: much while I waited for four or five hours tradition
Speaker 1: for SNL. Like I, I really was into that song.
Speaker 1: It really, it really got me going. What do you
Speaker 1: think it means when she sings her face is a
Speaker 1: map of the world, map of the world. I don't
Speaker 1: know that is I'm not but the world is not
Speaker 1: on That part is hard for me to I think
Speaker 1: I kind of skipped over that part in my mind. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's your answer, my answer, I'm okay. Before any pitch,
Speaker 1: before any audition, before anything I ever have to do,
Speaker 1: that's high stakes. I listened to the title track from
Speaker 1: Demilvato's Confident album. The song is called Confident because it
Speaker 1: makes me feel confident and when I hear that, it's
Speaker 1: time for me to take When she goes into it
Speaker 1: and when they get go into it, they're like killing
Speaker 1: it and just gaalvanized lyrics and I do need to
Speaker 1: feel like and it's like the the like beats like
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dry, is this Demilovado song hitting so hard?
Speaker 1: It makes my blood pump? And I always don't I
Speaker 1: don't always book, but I always listen to the song.
Speaker 1: I love that And I actually think that's a great answer.
Speaker 1: And I think I'm still winning in terms of most embarrassing.
Speaker 1: But well, it's because because mine is so on the nose.
Speaker 1: Like the song is called confident, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: My confidence is called confidence. Suddenly I see ruditions now,
Speaker 1: all right, bowen, what is your h It's not one song,
Speaker 1: but it is, like um, a theme of song, and
Speaker 1: that is specifically music from boss battles in Japanese role
Speaker 1: playing games, where it's like crazy like it like gets
Speaker 1: you in them. And then I literally picture myself with
Speaker 1: a fucking like staff or a sword like fighting this
Speaker 1: like boss, like getting myself in the mindset of okay,
Speaker 1: this is you're you're doing something that you don't normally do.
Speaker 1: You've things have let up to this and you and
Speaker 1: it is and you will actually like win if this
Speaker 1: is if I'm thinking in terms of like a victory
Speaker 1: and I truly think of myself with like a health
Speaker 1: bar and like fight with Seymour plays from Final Fantasy
Speaker 1: ten or um Sweatshop from Persona five will play, or
Speaker 1: the Man with the Big Gun from Final Fantasy. Like
Speaker 1: I have a whole playlist of Boss Battle. So I
Speaker 1: played it yesterday before, like on Saturday before before the
Speaker 1: show because I had to do a big ree, right,
Speaker 1: I had like really nailed down this like thing and
Speaker 1: this impression I wanted to do that didn't make it
Speaker 1: to the show, like I and it like really gets
Speaker 1: me there. I'm like, Okay, let's go, let's do this.
Speaker 1: It's mission oriented, mission oriented. Wow. And I did that
Speaker 1: for S and L too, I think, yeah for my
Speaker 1: audition anyway. See I think that with I we also
Speaker 1: it's gonna be embarrassing. Mine's gonna be embarrassing. I think
Speaker 1: they all makes sense. Suddenly, I see it makes so
Speaker 1: much and I don't I mean this as a compliment,
Speaker 1: Like it makes total sense for Vanessa because it's like
Speaker 1: she is someone who is who is like bright and
Speaker 1: this is something this is a song about like really
Speaker 1: like embracing like the like what you were, what you
Speaker 1: were going to give to the world, and that is
Speaker 1: what an audition is. And confident makes sense for Matt,
Speaker 1: like you're yeah. And then I also should say I
Speaker 1: always listen to necessar that walked by RuPaul and it's
Speaker 1: so so you know how like Bowen is like in
Speaker 1: his in his room like sort of like like feeling
Speaker 1: like he's going to be a fighter. I'm like shadow boxing.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's crazy. Mine is a lot of like
Speaker 1: listening to Confident and like posing and like feeling like
Speaker 1: like like like looking over there like and being like,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of just like feeling like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like what am I doing? Like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to I'm feeling powerful and confident and like virile.
Speaker 1: And mine's just like a basic girl in anthropology, like
Speaker 1: let's let's do it, honey. Oh my word, let's do it, honh.
Speaker 1: I think this is a great I love I've learned
Speaker 1: so much about both of you from these answers. Well,
Speaker 1: that's really what lost Culture, he says, is all about.
Speaker 1: It's about bringing on a guest and hopefully, by the
Speaker 1: end of the podcast episode, the listener or reader as
Speaker 1: we call it, they feel as if they've not gotten
Speaker 1: to know everything about the person, but sort of begun
Speaker 1: to understand something about them that gives more of a
Speaker 1: context for who they are, and maybe going forward it
Speaker 1: gets to enjoy them in their work even more because
Speaker 1: of that context. That's what makes this podcast great. And
Speaker 1: the podcast has received critical acclaim as it is due.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite thing. On our Wikipedia page, it says
Speaker 1: the podcast has received critically I'm like, well that's how
Speaker 1: you know? Wait do we? Okay, let's celebrate something because
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers finally has his own Wikipedia page. They maye
Speaker 1: be a Wikipedia page finally separate from separate from the
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers of American Idol fame. Do you know about
Speaker 1: this that there's a Matt Rodgers of American Idol fame
Speaker 1: who constantly is terrorizing my life because like it'll be
Speaker 1: like whenever like a project I'm in is announced that
Speaker 1: like literally links to him, it's like, I'm not this
Speaker 1: American Idol Season two contests, then I'm just not. Sometimes
Speaker 1: that stuff will work in your favor. For example, a
Speaker 1: lot of people thought that I was invited to Beyonce's
Speaker 1: baby shower. Um, and what my mom was like, were
Speaker 1: you invited baby shock, and it was Vanessa Bryant. But
Speaker 1: people got they got Adie Bryant, Vanessa Bay are confused, like,
Speaker 1: yeah the SNL girl Vanessa Brian. Yes, yes, so I
Speaker 1: got a lot of um kind of impressed impress messages,
Speaker 1: impress messages for that. But um, but yeah, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that you had to go through that. Now, now you're
Speaker 1: going to be doing that to him, okay, exactly. Now
Speaker 1: he gets to he gets to sort of struggle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gets kind of getting the yeah, yeah, you're doing
Speaker 1: a voice girl, and that maybe that reminds me of
Speaker 1: your famous voice. Oh so, um, we have to chat because, um,
Speaker 1: you have become sort of, I think Andy Cohen's favorite person.
Speaker 1: And you know that. Do you ever get a divibe
Speaker 1: that Andy is obsessed with obsessed? Obsessed? He lights up
Speaker 1: when you are there, He left. I look, I love
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen so much and I the fact that he's
Speaker 1: given me a platform to do to do impressions that
Speaker 1: I literally was doing back to my TV during the
Speaker 1: pandemic is um incredible and just kind of shows you
Speaker 1: what a cool person I am. Enough he truly you are.
Speaker 1: You are the best Housewives impression. You and Cecily really
Speaker 1: are the best house you, especially on the road. Well,
Speaker 1: I do also want to give that I want to
Speaker 1: give a shout out to my friend Amy Phillips, who
Speaker 1: has been doing the Housewives forever and who I know
Speaker 1: who I've known for a long time. But do you
Speaker 1: like how I'm like, but I'm accepting it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: but of course no, because also you don't get enough
Speaker 1: credit for your whitney. Your whitney is also good. So
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen um like Vanessa doing whitney and
Speaker 1: Lisa a conversation, it's really something good. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: You guys, what do you make of the of some
Speaker 1: housewives happenings right now between Beverly Hills or Salt Lake
Speaker 1: or Pa Tonac, whatever you're watching? I mean, I just
Speaker 1: am really, I really I want to see how this
Speaker 1: gin show stuff plays out. Yeah, there's nothing I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to more. I mean, we have to see. I
Speaker 1: also don't understand why Lisa is like making such an
Speaker 1: effort to be her friend. But then it's also it
Speaker 1: looks like she's going to fully ditch her in a
Speaker 1: few episodes. She's not. I think she's talking about Mary
Speaker 1: in that clip. Oh, I think Mary. I think that's
Speaker 1: Lisa screaming about maryam Cosby, but I think I agree.
Speaker 1: I think Lisa's gonna ditch Jim, but I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a I think Heather is going to like
Speaker 1: really fall out of our grace, of the public's graces.
Speaker 1: Wanted to be friends with It's weird to me because
Speaker 1: that was like why people liked her was because like, oh,
Speaker 1: she felt like the most directly speaking to people, and
Speaker 1: yet she kind of, of course is a little bit
Speaker 1: out of touch. At least I think she was just
Speaker 1: so um, she just realized how loved she was in
Speaker 1: the first season, and she really I don't know I
Speaker 1: had I felt like she she did come after Lisa
Speaker 1: really hard in the in the re union, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I want only good things for Heather, but um, I
Speaker 1: want the things for all of them, even Mary. I
Speaker 1: want her to get it together, like unless she's like
Speaker 1: even in a cult leader and which I think we'll
Speaker 1: find out. But she's forcing her son to join the military,
Speaker 1: which I know mine. I don't know about Mary, which
Speaker 1: I know that like is the thing that people do,
Speaker 1: I guess in families. But it's like the watching her
Speaker 1: talk to him is so upsetting to me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you you you don't talk to him like he's your son.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. I don't know. Yeah, it's very strange.
Speaker 1: And then also her friendship with Meredith when like she's
Speaker 1: talking to Meredith and Brooks and she's like, I had
Speaker 1: to fart, and You're like, all right, to poot, I
Speaker 1: had a to p o O T. I had to
Speaker 1: poot poot, which is really the worst thing. It's actually
Speaker 1: real culture number nine. It's it's the worst thing. It's
Speaker 1: the number one worst thing. But it's so crazy. See
Speaker 1: this makes me like Brooks less for being friends with Mary,
Speaker 1: like they hang and it's like it feels like their
Speaker 1: friendship is based on it on a dislike of John. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys. I have to say, like recent news about
Speaker 1: an event that Meredith Marks attended is going to be
Speaker 1: my I don't think so, honey. And I don't know
Speaker 1: this Vanessa, but I when we get to my I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, you're gonna hear all about it.
Speaker 1: But when you know what I'm talking about, right, I
Speaker 1: don't think I do. Oh. I can't wait to extol
Speaker 1: ol Right, So before we get to fucking deep into
Speaker 1: Salt Lake. I need your Beverly Hills takes this season.
Speaker 1: As we head into the reunion, where are you in
Speaker 1: terms of Erica Jane slash Girardi slash Johoy. Okay, first
Speaker 1: of all, I just want to say I work on
Speaker 1: a Meredith all the time too, and I've done it
Speaker 1: on another podcast. But do you guys want to hear
Speaker 1: my Meredith right now? Okay? It's not going to be
Speaker 1: as good as Whitney and Lesa. Don't shut up, don't
Speaker 1: patronize me, So I just want okay, just okay. It's
Speaker 1: something like this. I don't appreciate when someone speaks l
Speaker 1: of my family. She will not speak ol of my family.
Speaker 1: That family, family, my family. She really it's something she
Speaker 1: goes really nasal, and she goes like fine phone. It's
Speaker 1: like resident but also still unhealthy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like vocally, it's it's in a place that is like
Speaker 1: placed but still fry. Like yes, her voice is almost
Speaker 1: impossible to do because sometimes it's like really high and
Speaker 1: it's like on oh. And then sometimes it's like when
Speaker 1: she gets its really weird because it's sort of like
Speaker 1: it's really it comes yeah, guys, are you losing respect
Speaker 1: for me because I tried a bad impression for you?
Speaker 1: Are like I asked you that just you guys would
Speaker 1: be like, no, it was good. We lost It was good,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about it and we're really exploring it's
Speaker 1: a perfect impressing it. We're exploring it. And if we
Speaker 1: had Andy Cohen right now, Andy Cole will be falling
Speaker 1: off the bed, he'd roll over and they'd have to
Speaker 1: pick his son off the floor and move them to
Speaker 1: the other way because and he's rolling with left, he
Speaker 1: might roll right over his son. I can't know, see,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. Somebody, someone gives me
Speaker 1: a sentence like, jen, I how about this. I have
Speaker 1: never done anything to Jennifer Shaw. I have never done
Speaker 1: anything to Jennifer. It's like part of her. It's the
Speaker 1: if there's something cat like about her existence. She talks
Speaker 1: like a cat, like, she speaks like a cat would speak,
Speaker 1: like if you ever do you ever think about what
Speaker 1: it would sound like if a cat came to live.
Speaker 1: That's I think what Meredith marks. It's also there's like
Speaker 1: a it's like there's something in her And I say
Speaker 1: this with love. It's like there's something in her mouth.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's like, I'm I'm she she spoke
Speaker 1: out of my family, and I um, it's like a
Speaker 1: loose mouth. But also again said with the love. You
Speaker 1: know she said what she said about Jack Barlow, the
Speaker 1: s h is get a lot of emphasis. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: she said, do you stand for lg do you stand
Speaker 1: against lgbt Q hate? And and what I need to
Speaker 1: know that it's really something. Yeah. I really feel like
Speaker 1: like the more the more with this this show continues.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a good fucking cast and you
Speaker 1: have to like it. But this all being said, please
Speaker 1: what Erica talked about? Erica the most important cultural topic
Speaker 1: of the year. Okay, I am gared to talk about
Speaker 1: Erica because she has such rabid rabbit is the bad
Speaker 1: way to people. I don't know, she doesn't I the
Speaker 1: Army of Gaze has laid down their weapons, the law.
Speaker 1: I guess I just well, I think there's a couple
Speaker 1: of things going on. I'm going to give you a
Speaker 1: boring answer. I'm so, But basically I think what's going
Speaker 1: on is like she can only say so much and
Speaker 1: like there's certain things she truly can't mention because of
Speaker 1: legal for legal reasons, but also it does feel a
Speaker 1: lot of the stories feel yes, and and the day
Speaker 1: that the divorce came out felt like was it the
Speaker 1: day after, which is calculated. I mean about it is
Speaker 1: like is bizarre and like feels calculated. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: just excited for the reunion because it is four parts,
Speaker 1: which is like essentially four hours of the reunion, which
Speaker 1: for me is heaven um. But the clip where they
Speaker 1: show her like saying something she shouldn't have said and
Speaker 1: catching herself, Yes, it's so. And I do think a
Speaker 1: lot of her like stilted talking is her being like
Speaker 1: what am I allowed to say and not allowed to say?
Speaker 1: Like I don't think it's all just her being like
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell this, like, but but it is.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for the reunion, and I mean not
Speaker 1: every franchise has had its best season, and I'm obviously
Speaker 1: talking about New York has been like you know, like
Speaker 1: so I feel like you know, you never you can't
Speaker 1: you can't know in advance, always like how the seasons
Speaker 1: are going to go, and the fact that we've gotten
Speaker 1: so much from Beverly Hills a long season episodes. It'll
Speaker 1: end up episodes. Well what the reguning wife? And can
Speaker 1: I say this to like the person that I've been
Speaker 1: kind of disappointed in in Beverly Hills this season, even
Speaker 1: though I generally love her. Oh, I wonder if we're
Speaker 1: going to say the same person? Ready? One? Two three? Kyle. Yes,
Speaker 1: I didn't say I said k but because I I
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say Crystal. But I'm not disappointed Crystal.
Speaker 1: In speaking of impressions, here's what I will say for Kyle.
Speaker 1: She wins me over with her impressions. I just feel
Speaker 1: like Kyle, like I look, I was not on board.
Speaker 1: I was not fully on board of Sutton when the
Speaker 1: season started. I had a lot of ston as anyone,
Speaker 1: as anyone would, but like the way that she keeps
Speaker 1: like throwing Sutton under the bus and being like, Sutton,
Speaker 1: say what you're thinking. And it's like Kyle is not
Speaker 1: coming to Erica with any of the stuff that she's thinking,
Speaker 1: and she's the way that she keeps doing that. I'm like, Kyle,
Speaker 1: what is your problem? Because Kyle agrees with Sutton and
Speaker 1: for like in the big ways, you know, to to
Speaker 1: everyone's face, she is like their best friend. And then
Speaker 1: when they're all at a dinner together, I'm surprised that
Speaker 1: no one turns to Kyle and is like, you're acting mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're like to phase because she's been very two
Speaker 1: phased the thing that she just said in the recent
Speaker 1: episode where she was like they were talking about like
Speaker 1: Crystal was like, we don't sweep, we don't clean during
Speaker 1: you know, during this time, and she's like sweeping and
Speaker 1: Kyle's like, sweep things under the rug like you sutton like,
Speaker 1: and it's like, has already been the only person to
Speaker 1: give any kind of feedback to Erica of like what
Speaker 1: they're really thinking, and and you're gonna like keep pushing.
Speaker 1: It's like, what is Kyle talking about? Yeah, well, Kyle
Speaker 1: is the protagonist of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I
Speaker 1: always say, And so I think that sometimes the show
Speaker 1: is hesitant to like give her a hard time because
Speaker 1: she is truly the only one there from the beginning.
Speaker 1: And I also think the show is like deeply about
Speaker 1: the um Richard's sisters in a way that will when
Speaker 1: that whenever it does wrap up, like it will become
Speaker 1: clear that's what the whole show is about. So I
Speaker 1: think that's what I think. I think. I think every
Speaker 1: like every except Potomac, because that's kind of what the
Speaker 1: Gazelle Karen thing is all about, is who is really
Speaker 1: the start of the show. But there's a clear star
Speaker 1: of the show here, and it is Kyle, for better
Speaker 1: or worse. I'm a Kyle fan until she does things
Speaker 1: like I think. I think she's funny. I love her
Speaker 1: family like I love I love MAURICEO. Love Mauricio so hot.
Speaker 1: He's such a I love that he's high all the time.
Speaker 1: Love that he's high all the time. I just rewatched
Speaker 1: Camille's wedding in Hawaii and he was so stoned at
Speaker 1: dinner and he was and they were all just laughing
Speaker 1: at him, and I'm like, see, this is good ship.
Speaker 1: Um and maybe want to get stoned? And then I did, Um, hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you big stoner? You know I'm not, but I um,
Speaker 1: I have I do have love edibles. I have. I
Speaker 1: have them once every five months. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: not a big stoner, but I don't mind it. I
Speaker 1: don't mind getting stoned. Yeah, you can't tell by how
Speaker 1: cool I said it, how off the cuff. I also
Speaker 1: feel like we're sort of dancing around something bone, don't
Speaker 1: you think, which is the fact that you were sitting
Speaker 1: on the floor in your bedroom. Okay, so this is
Speaker 1: sorry to brag. This is my guest bedroom. And when
Speaker 1: we when my brother and I started our podcast, how
Speaker 1: did we get weird? Um Doug who's also your producer
Speaker 1: and and you know engineer uh said, what's the room
Speaker 1: that's kind of um not super loud and covered in glass, etcetera.
Speaker 1: And it's it is this guest room. So I'm and
Speaker 1: and so I bought a desk to um to do
Speaker 1: the to put my computer on while I do the podcast.
Speaker 1: And it turned out the desk was um very low.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm sitting in front of a bed.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's very chic. I think it's
Speaker 1: sort of so much such as Japanese almost the height
Speaker 1: that the seat height being a little low. It gets
Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable on the sides of my feet when
Speaker 1: I'm sitting across for this long. But I figured it
Speaker 1: out and I have the time of my life. Thanks
Speaker 1: for saying feet. That actually gets more people to listen
Speaker 1: to the podcast. Whenever we talk s feet. The feet
Speaker 1: is a whole community oh, bo, And I'm sure as
Speaker 1: soon as you got on SNL there were people, you know,
Speaker 1: posting about your feet, like I don't. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think I get a lot of feat people.
Speaker 1: I think you might not realize it because you don't
Speaker 1: go on foot fetish websites. But I was. I didn't
Speaker 1: think I did either, and then and then and then
Speaker 1: it all blew up. I won't. I haven't really looked
Speaker 1: at it myself, but um, i'd say you can. You
Speaker 1: can kind of skip that bother me. I posted foot
Speaker 1: to Maine on my and people really liked it. I
Speaker 1: didn't get Maybe I'll do that because bone actually has
Speaker 1: good feet. Boone has bone has like Thickham's feet, like
Speaker 1: you got those you got like you got like you
Speaker 1: like you're like a wide foot. I have a very like.
Speaker 1: I will say I have a very like I have
Speaker 1: no arch is my only flaw. That's why I guess
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like you don't really have arches. Wow,
Speaker 1: people don't like that. I like an arch. I mean
Speaker 1: I think I think, to each their own, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think I think you got a good foot. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks, thanks, thanks guys, you know, one time
Speaker 1: during sex and then we don't have to talk about this,
Speaker 1: but I did put a toe in my mouth and
Speaker 1: immediately other guy was like what and I was like okay, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't even want to do that, and then it
Speaker 1: was like okay, cool, and then we just continued um
Speaker 1: fornicating um. But I did try to do the toe
Speaker 1: thing you tried. I gave it a shot. Here's here's
Speaker 1: my question to the group. Who is not right or wrong,
Speaker 1: but like who, like you wanted to try something? You
Speaker 1: know what? Yeah, you know he he vocalized his discomfort
Speaker 1: and it was done, and you were both right. I
Speaker 1: think that he was just like enough for me, and
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, baby, either I was
Speaker 1: doing it just to try it. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: like I like that. We don't have to actually get
Speaker 1: into this. But it's like it's interesting to be like, well,
Speaker 1: at what point is it kink Shamian, is it what?
Speaker 1: At what point is it? Like I'm not comfortable doing
Speaker 1: that and I don't, you know, I don't know. Well
Speaker 1: I'm the person to ask, So I guess that's why
Speaker 1: we really wanted you one Vanessa's to talk about King
Speaker 1: as you can tell from my suddenly I see King
Speaker 1: Queen title about uh No, actually, so I do want
Speaker 1: to ask before we get into I don't think it's
Speaker 1: honey in a bit like how did we get weird?
Speaker 1: How did it come about? Tell us all? Okay, So
Speaker 1: my brother and I are very close. We used to
Speaker 1: both live in New York and going out all the time.
Speaker 1: Now he lives with his wife in um in Massachusetts
Speaker 1: in the Berkshires. I live in l A, California, And
Speaker 1: so we really were like wanting a way to like
Speaker 1: kind of spend time together and hang out. And also
Speaker 1: we love talking. Our our podcast is based on like nostalgic.
Speaker 1: Uh We we talk a lot about you know, being
Speaker 1: kids and and kind of nostalgic products and shows and
Speaker 1: stuff that kind of like for better or worse shaped
Speaker 1: us into the into the incredible humans that we are
Speaker 1: today and to us network and UM creative aim and
Speaker 1: a name and and UM and like. We have guests
Speaker 1: on that that similarly talk about what made them into
Speaker 1: such incredible you know, pieces of pieces of art and
Speaker 1: UM and like. But Jonah and I always would like
Speaker 1: and Jonah, who famously were with Bowen on the search podcast.
Speaker 1: So great to work with Jonah, I love him working
Speaker 1: with you. That was such a great podcast too. That
Speaker 1: was it was It was lovely because it's a great
Speaker 1: show and I was a guest. Um, it was such
Speaker 1: a great show. And and anyways, he and I often
Speaker 1: will like text each other about like do you remember
Speaker 1: like some random thing from growing up, and it's we
Speaker 1: just like always like naturally will be like looking the
Speaker 1: stuff up all the time and have so much fun
Speaker 1: talking about it and so um. So then then we
Speaker 1: decided to do this podcast that um kind of where
Speaker 1: we get to talk about this nostalgic stuff and research
Speaker 1: this nostalgic stuff and have it be um professional thing
Speaker 1: we do instead of just like a thing that takes
Speaker 1: up a lot of our time for no reason. Well
Speaker 1: it's it's the perfect it's the perfect frame for this
Speaker 1: like conversation that you guys regularly have, yes, and so
Speaker 1: like why not Like that's that's the perfect seamless way
Speaker 1: to like transition into a podcast is to like let's
Speaker 1: just have it be that. It's taking me back to
Speaker 1: it like when you have your sibling, because we do
Speaker 1: we all have only one sibling. Yeah ye yeah, so same,
Speaker 1: So My sister is three years younger than me, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like remembering like the stuff I'm not. So
Speaker 1: I'm very seeing her very soon. I haven't seen her
Speaker 1: in like over two years. It's been like a really
Speaker 1: crazy thing because we were very, very very close always,
Speaker 1: and so I'm really excited to see her. But and
Speaker 1: hearing you talk about that, like it's reminding me of
Speaker 1: like the weird ship we would do together, and we
Speaker 1: were little and really only had each other to hang
Speaker 1: out with and play with. But I remember, I just
Speaker 1: said this the other day. We were in the car,
Speaker 1: like we had an astro van and we wanted like
Speaker 1: a long trip one time, and I think my my
Speaker 1: parents had like a literal TV put up on the shelf,
Speaker 1: like well, you're talking like a long trip, and like
Speaker 1: they put a TV with like a VHS in there,
Speaker 1: and they let us rent movies. And I remember I
Speaker 1: had seen Clueless in the Blockbuster and I just kept
Speaker 1: looking at Alicia Silverstone and being like, whatever that is,
Speaker 1: I need to get that and rent that. But I
Speaker 1: remember we watched it in the back of the astro
Speaker 1: van and my sister and watched the whole movie in silence,
Speaker 1: and then it ended, and I turned to her and
Speaker 1: I go, I don't think I understood a lot of that,
Speaker 1: but I loved it, and she goes me too, I
Speaker 1: want to watch it again right now, And so we
Speaker 1: put it back on and we just watched the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think I picked up on a single joke,
Speaker 1: but we were like truly like eight and five watching
Speaker 1: this movie that was like not for us, but it's
Speaker 1: so visually fun. You need all you need is as
Speaker 1: if and like as an eight year old at any
Speaker 1: age you get that that is like so fun and
Speaker 1: iconic star. I mean, she's just so watchable and fun.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I was, I was wondering, like, but when
Speaker 1: do you have any of that like things with Yang
Speaker 1: when you were a little Yeah, probably it tons so
Speaker 1: many Maybe it's just like Sunday foggy brain that like
Speaker 1: things don't come up come to mind. But like I
Speaker 1: mean I always talk about how she like was she
Speaker 1: was the person to like channel in like all this
Speaker 1: stuff that like I wouldn't have had access to you
Speaker 1: like Mary Kayton Nashley, like like if I didn't have
Speaker 1: a to years older, if like if she wasn't there,
Speaker 1: like I would not have like watched I would not
Speaker 1: have watched Clueless. I would not have watched like all
Speaker 1: the nineties rom coms. Like she was the way, like
Speaker 1: we didn't have cable, so she was the one to
Speaker 1: like bran in all this stuff. Um. She told me
Speaker 1: what l was when we moved to the U S
Speaker 1: and I was like, like she like she was the
Speaker 1: person to like sort of introduce me to a lot. Um.
Speaker 1: So there's like there's so many things that we would
Speaker 1: watch together. I had a similar thing where like because
Speaker 1: Jonah is a couple of years older than me, he
Speaker 1: was watching MTV a lot, and so like I sort
Speaker 1: of started like watching all these like music videos and
Speaker 1: this stuff that like I think is like a little
Speaker 1: it's just like most like kids two years older than me,
Speaker 1: would you know, you know. And so like yeah, I
Speaker 1: got introduced to all of that stuff. And we watched
Speaker 1: so much MTV that my parents threatened to cancel it
Speaker 1: like at one point. And but I don't even think
Speaker 1: you could do that, Like you couldn't like call the
Speaker 1: cable company and be like just don't play this one channel.
Speaker 1: But we like believed them. But we were like, huh,
Speaker 1: well how they don't you know, we're not gonna stop
Speaker 1: watching it. The threat was there. I wasn't allowed to
Speaker 1: watch it because my mom would always see me watching
Speaker 1: it and it would always be like a random moment
Speaker 1: where there was like sex or something on that, and
Speaker 1: so she she would not allow me to watch MTV.
Speaker 1: I wasn't allow I had to watch h one, which
Speaker 1: she didn't understand, was like informing me. It was like
Speaker 1: it was like it was more about sensuality than sexuality. UM,
Speaker 1: so contemporary, right, So instead of watching like you know,
Speaker 1: like Britney Spears like asked up in the sky, I
Speaker 1: was watching like Shania Twain, like like wrapped in like
Speaker 1: a like a blanket on the beach with nothing under
Speaker 1: it and like sort of looking and like a black
Speaker 1: and white and like sort of like being on the beach.
Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, this is sensuality to be
Speaker 1: as a child. I'm being informed this way now. I
Speaker 1: had a couple of friends and I were just watching,
Speaker 1: um very cool Friday night. We were just watching the
Speaker 1: videos for Unbreak My Heart by Tony Braxton and um
Speaker 1: one of the Men in the Shower honey and yeah
Speaker 1: and and um, what's the song? Um the Celine Dion.
Speaker 1: They're both in both cases. The man who's a model
Speaker 1: gets in a motorcycle accident, and it's all coming back
Speaker 1: to me. When she's running through a castle. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: runs through the castle. She's sort of there's there's a
Speaker 1: scene where the camera's going around her and she's just
Speaker 1: like turning and turning. The girls were doing a lot
Speaker 1: of turning at the time. Turning was huge, like sort
Speaker 1: of turning around and like spinning around because when you turn,
Speaker 1: when you if you turn so much, you'll have spun,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's actually a real
Speaker 1: culture number forty nine. If you so, you'll have fun.
Speaker 1: I was an older child, though, so I was the
Speaker 1: one that was like arbiting a lot of it. I
Speaker 1: think that's what you guys are like. That's sort of
Speaker 1: like when you're when you have an older sibling, they
Speaker 1: are like the arbiter of taste and culture in the households.
Speaker 1: So you are arbiting clueless, which is incredible. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I don't know when you guys were like playing with
Speaker 1: your sibling as a kid, being the younger child, did
Speaker 1: you ever win things? No? I never wanted to watch
Speaker 1: my brother play. Oh yeah, I watched my brother play
Speaker 1: like Sonic the Hedgehog for like hours, and you'd be like,
Speaker 1: your turn's coming up soon, and then it would just
Speaker 1: be me watching him for hours. It's so abusive. I
Speaker 1: can be it is, but it's like I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: it any other way, you know, Like I just get
Speaker 1: to spend time with him, and I'm like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: guess I'll watch you play another round, even though it's
Speaker 1: technically my turn always won, young always won and then
Speaker 1: and then so then that drove me to like play
Speaker 1: computer games instead. I was like, well, I don't want
Speaker 1: to do this and I'm just gonna play like StarCraft
Speaker 1: or whatever on the computer. Um so yeah, that was wow.
Speaker 1: This is this is this is our common thread is
Speaker 1: that we each have one SEB of a different gender.
Speaker 1: What are you saying, man, I think do you think
Speaker 1: it's time? I think it might be time for I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. The big segment of Lost Culturess
Speaker 1: where we take one minute's rail against something in culture
Speaker 1: that's absolutely needing a railing. Anyway, everyone's prepared. I'm prepared.
Speaker 1: Do you want to get you wanna start Matt. Matt
Speaker 1: traditionally starts I love it. This is Matt Rodgers. I
Speaker 1: don't think so many times starts now, I don't think so, Honey,
Speaker 1: Meredith Marks and her husband Seth at a thysander Land party.
Speaker 1: What bowen young, I can't believe you didn't know about this.
Speaker 1: I let me just make it clear. I think that
Speaker 1: everyone should go to all thysander Land parties. I love
Speaker 1: to hear it and blessings kisses to everyone at tite.
Speaker 1: But I just want to say that when I saw
Speaker 1: Meredith Marks and her straight husband Seth photographed video at
Speaker 1: this party, I had to laugh and I thought, what
Speaker 1: are they doing there? And I thought, it's just like
Speaker 1: a horride an army of gay men and Meredith Marks
Speaker 1: and Seth and I got firsthand accounts of what they
Speaker 1: what their behavior was. It was very we're at this party.
Speaker 1: And I thought, if she reaching out like the twink
Speaker 1: community because she said that thing about where he was
Speaker 1: called a twink? Does she think that she she nervous,
Speaker 1: that she thinks she uses twin because like a slur,
Speaker 1: and she thinks it's a bad thing, and she wants
Speaker 1: to reach out to the twin community. So I guess, Hune,
Speaker 1: but I can't believe Meredith marks event. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: but I guess I do. Anywhere every want should go
Speaker 1: to tie anyway, and that's one minute. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: she's going. She knows where to go if she wants
Speaker 1: to reach out to the twins, and that is the
Speaker 1: Tay Sunderland parties twinks of every shape, size color. Okay,
Speaker 1: she was at a party where gay guys had their
Speaker 1: shirts off and we're like doing party drugs, and Seth
Speaker 1: must have just stood there have been like, I got,
Speaker 1: I gotta be cool with us. That's wild that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it has to be a Brooks thing, right, I think
Speaker 1: it is. I think it's like she. I do think
Speaker 1: she's been a slightly called out for like implying that
Speaker 1: twink is a slur, which it's not necessarily a slur. No,
Speaker 1: it is not. First of all, Also, I've played a
Speaker 1: character named Twink on q fource, which also stars Ali
Speaker 1: Leave Got by the way, and everyone's like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe there's a character named twink slur alert. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's not. I was like, some people out there really
Speaker 1: aren't twinks, and stop stop stop saying this. No, it's
Speaker 1: but it's there. It is. It's the theemphobia, like that
Speaker 1: is like you you're telling on yourself anyway, there is,
Speaker 1: it's the femphobia. And maybe that maybe Meredith has too little,
Speaker 1: has to sort of unlearn that too. Maybe Meredith sees
Speaker 1: twink as a slur because she has these entrenched values
Speaker 1: around masculinity and like she's she's exploring that, and then
Speaker 1: she wants to go to a Tyson Erland party to like, really,
Speaker 1: you know, immerse herself. Yeah, I I support her journey.
Speaker 1: I do too. And what I think happened is I
Speaker 1: think she saw the episode, maybe got some flak online,
Speaker 1: and she sat down with her whole team and said,
Speaker 1: how do we fix this? And they said you need
Speaker 1: to go. She's like, you need to go be amongst
Speaker 1: the community and learn. And she said, I'm reaching out
Speaker 1: to the gay community, the lgbt Q plus and she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be around them and sort of see them
Speaker 1: and be with them and know that I stand here
Speaker 1: alongside them and I am. The thing is it's my
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. But it's more like I
Speaker 1: can't believe this, honey, I can't believe this honey. When
Speaker 1: I went to party, I saw Lenox, I saw Aquaria,
Speaker 1: I saw all the usual people, and it was a
Speaker 1: really it was. It was a three dollar bill, which
Speaker 1: is an incredible space. I really thought Aquary changed the
Speaker 1: game on drag Race. When I commented to run Way presentation,
Speaker 1: I feel as there's never been a queen just shop
Speaker 1: the way and that and to win a comedy challenge.
Speaker 1: She wants snatch game. Maybe maybe we all found all
Speaker 1: found it, but I don't. I don't mean to. I'm
Speaker 1: not the person to say we found it. We did?
Speaker 1: You did? I put on a huge sleep, is it too?
Speaker 1: I don't want to make it vocal fry because I
Speaker 1: don't think that's what Mary does. You're doing more than
Speaker 1: vocal fry. I want you to know there's a drag
Speaker 1: to it. I plan on a huge slave. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: will speak of my phone. I'm not doing you guys
Speaker 1: are doing it better than me. No, no, no. But
Speaker 1: by the way, it's another time in this podcast. It's
Speaker 1: happened many times that I've put myself down in a
Speaker 1: way that that has forced you to be like, no,
Speaker 1: you do the same. I do the same. That's true.
Speaker 1: We all do it. All three of you all do it.
Speaker 1: We all do it. You're not special special. Well you
Speaker 1: think like, now we're going to stop everything here and
Speaker 1: be like no, no, no, you did it, and we
Speaker 1: do it and work on it. Thank you. By the
Speaker 1: time I get to set, that's better be fixed because
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting there with you in those those chasing me,
Speaker 1: pulling me, pulling me up out of my hand, and
Speaker 1: you'd like, I'm like no, I'm just gonna turn to
Speaker 1: you and be like, fix this, Vanessa. You need there
Speaker 1: needs to be number one on the call sheet. Vibes
Speaker 1: from you starting now, thank you in all areas of
Speaker 1: your life, and I'm gonna I'm gonna respond to you
Speaker 1: hard as like a number six and be like, shut up.
Speaker 1: I love that. Number six is sort of where I live.
Speaker 1: I was number six on Fine Island. Two. Number six
Speaker 1: is very number. You know what I mean? Are you
Speaker 1: number six? Is that what you were in? The number six? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's great. Alright, So guess what it's time for? Boon Yang.
Speaker 1: I don't think I love that. Yeah, this is one
Speaker 1: of the most amazing moments. I can't wait, can't wait, Okay,
Speaker 1: I love this moment alright. So I have to stop,
Speaker 1: utch in my hand and bowen. I'm ready to say,
Speaker 1: bo yang. This is your I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: and your time starts now. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Bits of pooh that cling to the toilet, you know,
Speaker 1: it always it's upsetting, whether it's mine or someone else's.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it. And then and then
Speaker 1: what do I do? I play a little game, right
Speaker 1: if I'm peeing, I try to piss it off. And
Speaker 1: then I get really frustrated if my stream isn't strong
Speaker 1: enough to you know, kind of you know, dislodge the
Speaker 1: pooh from the porcelain I want. I was almost gonna
Speaker 1: say porse, but then I wanted to be like but
Speaker 1: then I had to be like, it's I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to just elongate it and say porcelain and and and
Speaker 1: explain that it was an abbreviation for porcelain. Anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: I need to go to the bathroom and feel safe.
Speaker 1: I can't be surprised by what I see. I know
Speaker 1: that no one goes to the bathroom and feels this way,
Speaker 1: but I feel like we need to start actually really
Speaker 1: treating bathrooms as a sacred space and anywhere, at work, school,
Speaker 1: at airports, every bathroom needs to have vetaversetpe by by Rato,
Speaker 1: and all of the sinks like mine doesn't. That's one minute.
Speaker 1: That's one minute. And I think the thesis of this
Speaker 1: is Barreto at all and all public restrooms. You know,
Speaker 1: I have a song about this courtesy flush. You have
Speaker 1: to curR sea flash. If you wanna be my husband,
Speaker 1: take a deep no, take a good look before you'll
Speaker 1: leave the toilet. If you wanna be with me, baby
Speaker 1: and something, oh you'll be you need flash two times.
Speaker 1: So much water waste though, But also it's not even that.
Speaker 1: It's sometimes I'm sorry, this is so gross. I pooh
Speaker 1: with such force that and there's no way that not
Speaker 1: all the flushes in the world starring Michelle Williams will
Speaker 1: not be able to get that off. She would do
Speaker 1: that if that shot in Brooklyn Um. And I just
Speaker 1: want to say that, yes, it's true. Yang. Oftentimes when
Speaker 1: I go to the bathroom after you, there will be that,
Speaker 1: and I'll sort of say, well, you know, he poosed
Speaker 1: forcefully because you have one of the most powerful assholes
Speaker 1: in manattainment. I really do. I no, no, lie, I
Speaker 1: do Yeah, I have a powerful his shinkter has. It's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, my favorite thing that's ever been said about
Speaker 1: a bowen young fart is when Doug Whiteck said it
Speaker 1: was like an angry Egyptian king. Yeah, the mummy, a
Speaker 1: mummy emerging from like a pharaoh screaming to the gods
Speaker 1: in anguish. I'm already to make this a fecal conversation,
Speaker 1: but no, it's important conversation. Actually, this podcast has tackled kink,
Speaker 1: fecal matter, and and it's received critical acclaim. The podcast
Speaker 1: has received critical acclaim, critical acclaim, ritical acclaim. So, Vanessa,
Speaker 1: unless you have a lot to say about poop hanging
Speaker 1: onto the toilet, we can move on to your I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. I think I'm ready. Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: this is Vanessa Beyers. I don't think so, honey. Her
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Goalie commercials, Now,
Speaker 1: what the hell are we doing? First of all, you're
Speaker 1: going to release a goalie commercial that has people in
Speaker 1: an office. It's very underproduced, it looks very low budget.
Speaker 1: There's I don't blame the actors in it. It's what
Speaker 1: they were given. And honestly, they're barely given like anything,
Speaker 1: and there's like a lot of like big swings that
Speaker 1: these actors are taking. They're very poorly edited and it's
Speaker 1: the kind of commercial that like I see it and
Speaker 1: I have to change the channel. Now cut to they
Speaker 1: release a Goalie commercial with j Lo. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: they paid her so much money to do a Goalie commercial?
Speaker 1: So which is it? Goalie? Are you a low budget
Speaker 1: company that will barely pay these probably non sag after
Speaker 1: actors to to uh to to to to improvise and
Speaker 1: like barely have the get not get any of the
Speaker 1: respect that is due to them, probably barely pay them.
Speaker 1: And then you're or are you going to pay j Lo?
Speaker 1: Millions and millions of dollars? Like what? Who? Who am
Speaker 1: I buying? What am I buying? Am I buying a
Speaker 1: high end product with a huge promotional Queen? I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Queen again promoting it? Or are you going to barely
Speaker 1: pay these these talented non union actors probably sorry if
Speaker 1: they are union to either way to promote a project?
Speaker 1: What is Goalie? And where do you stand on the
Speaker 1: where do you stand? And that's I'm sorry, Queen, that
Speaker 1: was Queen? What is I don't think I've seen these commercials.
Speaker 1: What is Goalie? Okay, okay, go, I need you guys
Speaker 1: to watch. I'm going to send you links to both
Speaker 1: of these commercials. Goalie isam in gummy that has g
Speaker 1: O l I that has um that has uh it's
Speaker 1: it's it has apple cider vinegar in it and it's
Speaker 1: supposed to control cravings and help you like lose weight. Okay,
Speaker 1: So they're at least this commercial months ago where it's
Speaker 1: like people in an office and it's like a guy
Speaker 1: getting ready for work, a woman running on a treadmill,
Speaker 1: a guy at the office and they're like, hey, do
Speaker 1: you want some donuts? And he's like, no, I've got Goalie.
Speaker 1: And you're like, this is the most low budget commercial
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and I don't. And it makes me
Speaker 1: like uncomfortable for these actors, Like I don't feel like
Speaker 1: they were taking care of onunset by the way, truly,
Speaker 1: if they were. I don't mean to start a bad rumor.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is it seems like they really cut
Speaker 1: corners on this initial Goalie commercial. Come to see a
Speaker 1: few months later they have j Lo in a Goalie
Speaker 1: commercial and she's doing a full comedy bit and you're like,
Speaker 1: what is happening? Like is this like if they had
Speaker 1: stuck to the low budget commercial with the cast of
Speaker 1: people that you feel like deserve better than this, fine,
Speaker 1: then that's who they are. But then to come out
Speaker 1: and have a j Loo commercial. I feel like if
Speaker 1: was one of the actors in the initial commercial, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, where was all that money? Like what were
Speaker 1: you paying me when you had all of this j
Speaker 1: LO money? Yea, because wasn't doing no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. I really need you guys to see
Speaker 1: all of these commercials. I'm someone who gets very fixated
Speaker 1: on commercials, and I really I wonder if it's because
Speaker 1: I used to audition for commercials so much in Chicago,
Speaker 1: or if it's because I just grew up like very
Speaker 1: into commercials and kind of like improvising commercials for my
Speaker 1: best friend one. Anyways, the point is, I really it
Speaker 1: really is the most confusing thing because it's the type
Speaker 1: of you know, like those commercials where it's like um,
Speaker 1: where it's like a woman in a grocery store and
Speaker 1: and they're like um and she's like, uh God, I
Speaker 1: can't think of the name. But it's like she's talking
Speaker 1: about a product and it's so low budget on purpose,
Speaker 1: where it's like she's like something time and she's like
Speaker 1: this product is really great, and you're like, Okay, they
Speaker 1: spent zero dollars on this commercial. Fine, that's kind of
Speaker 1: the vibe of this initial goalie commercial. But then they
Speaker 1: swung so hard the other direction that you're like, come
Speaker 1: out with a commercial with j Lo in it, and
Speaker 1: you're like ripted comedics toward a force. Did they spend
Speaker 1: all of their money on that or are they doing
Speaker 1: really what? Like did they just the low budget commercial
Speaker 1: made them so much money that now they're able to
Speaker 1: pay j Low to do a commercial. It's so I've
Speaker 1: never seen the same product have two commercials now, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm this is no burn to j Lo. The Jlo
Speaker 1: commercial is not like a huge does not seem like
Speaker 1: the commercial itself cost a lot of money, but having
Speaker 1: j Lo, I'm sure they paid her millions and millions
Speaker 1: of dollars to be in it, to be promoting this product.
Speaker 1: And you're sure it was her and not some like
Speaker 1: Jlo drag queen guys. Not only am I sure it's her,
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised by what she's she's doing like
Speaker 1: a like she's basically like talking about like it gives
Speaker 1: me energy, and then she's like j Loo energy general
Speaker 1: g and you're like, she's doing it's it's so who
Speaker 1: who is in charge? Who is what is their business model?
Speaker 1: Who who is their demo? I'm so by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't think an ad agency. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: I am so befuddled by the screen blow budget commercial
Speaker 1: j Lo commercial. Again, the production quality of both commercials
Speaker 1: is not high, like neither has like a huge however,
Speaker 1: just the casting, it's like, what is happening? You're thinking
Speaker 1: of the little guy and that's good, and you're thinking
Speaker 1: of those because guess what, there was a time you
Speaker 1: were non union and there was there yes, and we
Speaker 1: want the little guy getting paid more, not with her
Speaker 1: millions paid nothing. And if if any of those those
Speaker 1: those times that I was non union and I got
Speaker 1: paid nothing, I was so happy to do it. But
Speaker 1: had the same product that I was advertising weeks later
Speaker 1: come out with a commercial starring j Loo, I would
Speaker 1: have said, hey, you guys could have thrown in an
Speaker 1: extra thousand dollars for me. I think that you've given
Speaker 1: us a lot to think about and a lot for
Speaker 1: everyone out there listening to think about about. They support
Speaker 1: this is about ethical consumption, and I want to say
Speaker 1: I always feel like when I listened to your podcast,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, there's so much they know everything. I
Speaker 1: don't know anything. The fact that I found something that
Speaker 1: you don't know actually shows It's like it's like, it's
Speaker 1: how wrong I am. No, it's like I'm paying attention
Speaker 1: to the wrong things. I think. No, that's not true.
Speaker 1: I am. I'm getting worked up over like things that
Speaker 1: are sort of like important in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: I'm sort of like I'm like, I'm your mid western
Speaker 1: aunt and I know it. But it's also like I
Speaker 1: just I just really do need to you guys midwestern cousin. Okay,
Speaker 1: older cousin who we need to know about the go
Speaker 1: the go go goalie? Goalie? Now, look is goalie. Do
Speaker 1: I feel bad if Goalie was like, Wow, maybe we
Speaker 1: should sponsor some of these, um, we should sponsor some
Speaker 1: of these big money players podcasts, And then now they're
Speaker 1: going to listen to this and they're gonna go, no,
Speaker 1: thank you. But it's like, well, you already spent all
Speaker 1: your money on Jay, you can do it anymore. Also,
Speaker 1: I have to tell you from not knowing about it before,
Speaker 1: I do want to try them because I love apple
Speaker 1: cider vinegar. Well, it is supposed to be I have
Speaker 1: pretty bad I'm a pretty bad acid reflects. Apple cider
Speaker 1: vinegar is supposed to be very good for for you know,
Speaker 1: I rewatched the commercials in preparation for this podcast, and
Speaker 1: I did think I should try this product. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: there's no, there's wan. That's another. So the readers have
Speaker 1: to do two things. Vote on what's the most embarrassing song.
Speaker 1: I'm go out and buy Goalie the vitamins uh that
Speaker 1: will have a vinegar in them, gummies And basically I
Speaker 1: want you to tag us at Lost culture is thus
Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter and tell us your opinion on Goalie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I will try it too. Great And so we'll
Speaker 1: all get back together later when you come back to promote.
Speaker 1: I love this for you because you're all right back.
Speaker 1: There's an open door. Um, I would like to have
Speaker 1: a big discussion on Goalie. Yeah, we'll all have tried
Speaker 1: Goalie by then and we'll see what we think. But
Speaker 1: also knowing that I still I'm going to hold onto
Speaker 1: a little bit of this resentment about the way that
Speaker 1: they've the way that they've put out their campaign campaign
Speaker 1: their campaigns, and never lose resentment that's actually important, never
Speaker 1: less resentment. I think we really did cover so much.
Speaker 1: Goalie came Poop, Housewives, pump up songs like SNL like
Speaker 1: havel An is iconic in the new show. The new show.
Speaker 1: The podcast has received critical acclaim for these reasons because
Speaker 1: it's able to I think the podcast law Scholed Recess
Speaker 1: is able to sort of, you know, cover so a
Speaker 1: breath of topics, you know what I mean. It is
Speaker 1: one of the good podcasts. It is, It really is.
Speaker 1: And if if my new podcast starring my brother Jonah
Speaker 1: Bayer and I How Did We Get Weird? On Big
Speaker 1: Money Players Network, if ours can even have a slice
Speaker 1: of the acclaim and honestly, the oh you're due for
Speaker 1: multiple multiplied factor more acclaim than we have. You guys
Speaker 1: are gonna have more, you guys have. But I just
Speaker 1: if we can have a fraction on How did We
Speaker 1: Get Weird? Starring my brother Jonah Bayer and I sorry,
Speaker 1: I just did. We will be thrilled and I see
Speaker 1: that for you and I love that and I love
Speaker 1: that for you. Listen, this has been absolutely fabulous and
Speaker 1: we can't wait to have you back. And I think
Speaker 1: when Bowen comes to Los Angeles, we should all do dinner.
Speaker 1: We should all do dinner again when Bowen comes to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. And guess what, Bowen. For the rest of
Speaker 1: the day today, you should relax. I hope you order
Speaker 1: in a bagel or whatever the hell you's I'm not.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go party? I'm gonna go. It's the
Speaker 1: last tight tee and our and our friend Patrick Rodgers
Speaker 1: just moved to the city from Josh Star Aaron Jackson.
Speaker 1: Are gonna go meet up with him? I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go, and I'm gonna go somewhere for just like
Speaker 1: an hour or two and then gonna come back and
Speaker 1: have a long, nice night of Double Housewives. Yes, please
Speaker 1: give him such a big I will. I will help
Speaker 1: for me too, and yes for me Vanessa of course.
Speaker 1: But thank you and Vanessa again, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for that talk. Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 1: Your legend. You guys are legends. Sorry you right for
Speaker 1: you so so the every episode of the podcast ends
Speaker 1: with a song. You have to curtsy Flush, you wanna
Speaker 1: to be my husband? Take a good look. Be fun
Speaker 1: because if you want to be any baby and something
Speaker 1: to kid, you need to artesty. Flush, Oh you can ship.
Speaker 1: You needed a flash two times? M Joy, learn the song,
Speaker 1: come back, harmonize or else Bye Bye