1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season thirty four, episode 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: one of Daily Sight Guy. Yeah, we're June fourth, two 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: thousand eight. Team my name is Jack O'Brien a ka 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: tag Team Jack again check it to wreck It o brien. Uh. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: That is courtesy of Team Murphy had kind of made 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: a couple of revisions, but same general idea from Tea 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Murphy unforced to assume former NBA player Troy Murphy. Uh. 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: And I am thrilled to be joined as always by 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: my co host Mr Miles Gray. Want something else, I'm 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: not listening when you Gray, So thank you. Yeah, there 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: we go. Dude did it? Dude? Thank you. Chapman Rice 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: aka Goddess of Fun Fact. I ran into your buddy 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: zach O Yama, who's also a comedian out here in 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: l A. Someone you probably know him. Uh, And we 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: made a weird connection when someone came up and he said, hey, 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: someone who I think this is your podcast, which calls 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: with and ends up being Chapman right, so out to you. 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: So that makes us look really small time because then 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: it seems like we only have like five listeners, as 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: you know who all of them are. It's so it's 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: kind of true. We are a second rate podcast. You 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: know that gang is very small. All right, we are 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: first time guest. I believe yes, she is uh the great, 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: one of the all time great Jamie low the Sorry, 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: I would love to come on as the first time guest. 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Characters you have Zamboni Girl, Little Zamboni Girl. Hi, guys, Hey, 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? Thank you so much. I 29 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: don't have enough time to google things. It's like I 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what. I haven't googled anything 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: in the past couple of days. I haven't had a 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: question um time. Thank you so much for filling in 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: for me. While I was out conducting my experiment. Did 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: you see Miles? People were speculating that we were hiding Jack, 35 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: like Trump is hiding people still don't know. This could 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: be one of those like voice modulator algorithms we created 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: to sound like Jack. I've been really into AI and 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: I think I'm getting pretty good at it. So, I mean, 39 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: let's see how today goes. You're getting good at AI, 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm getting good at coding. I'm like, so, how do 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: you define a ziet good at it? There's zeros. But 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: then also and people, a lot of people don't know 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: that this, there's also one. So I've just been doing 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: zeros in the whole time. Well, I've created jackpots software. 45 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: There we go, alright, We're going to get into a 46 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: bunch of different stuff. We're gonna talk about the Kanye album, 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court decision about cake that is currently the 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: biggest font I've seen Drudge use for a headline in 49 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: our time running this show. We're gonna talk about Trump's 50 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: shamelessness as just an accidental strategy, Bill Clinton's new weird 51 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: book tour, lots of stuff. But before we get into 52 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: what the world is thinking about, we like to start 53 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: out by talking to our guest about what they specifically 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: are talking and thinking about and searching for. Jamie, what 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: are you searching for? Maybe we can broaden it for you, 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: just what are you searching for? And what am I 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: searching for? In my life? I did Google over the 58 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: weekend several times. Zach Woods g Q photo shoot. Have 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: we all seen the Zachos g Q photos? It's I 60 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: was bedridden over the Zach Woods photo shoot. It is 61 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful. It's just all these pictures of Zach Woods 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: in the woods, he's fishing, he's on various rafts, and 63 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: you're just I was just like, I'm in full body 64 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: paralysis over the Zach Woods g Q photo shoot. Highly 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: recommend if you want to get horny on Monday. Wow. 66 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: I love that he has resting, weeping face. He really does. 67 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: I love it. Is the I forget the character's name 68 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: from Silicon Bell Jared Jared Silicon Valley. Yeah, one of 69 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: the funniest dudes. He's He's the absolutely and what that dude, 70 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I think I just want to 71 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: hang out with him. He just seems like a good 72 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: person to hang out with, just sort of based off 73 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: his like sort of low energy kind of I don't know. 74 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like he's one of those 75 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: people that you talked to. He like knows a lot 76 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: about very specific things, right right right, Yeah, Like he 77 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: would probably, yeah, y'all would have a crazy conversation about 78 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: his zambody and yeah, I feel I feel like he 79 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: knows a lot about things I don't know. And then 80 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: I could tell him all about the history of Chuck 81 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: E Cheese, Yeah, which no one knows except me. I 82 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: am the keeper of the keys. And then the other 83 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: thing I've been looking at because speaking of Chucky cheese 84 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: is I was getting back into Aaron Fector's YouTube channel 85 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: over the weekend. And Aaron Factor is the inventor of 86 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: the Chucky Cheese robots. He still lives in the warehouse 87 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: he created those robots in in Florida. He's the only 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 1: person who lives there now. He lives there with his wife, 89 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: and he programs the robots to sing songs about his wife. 90 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: It is terrifying and beautiful and I recommend everyone looking 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: to his weird YouTube channel for robot And what did 92 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: he just like make a quick check when he created 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: the Chuck E Cheese band like mechanical band, and then 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: just it was downfall after that, it goes so deep. 95 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: He has such like he's the classic like genius who 96 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: cannot do business kind of guy because he invented whack 97 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: a mole straight up slipped forgot to get the patent 98 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: he invented. Ad didn't get the patent on whac a Mole. 99 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Blew it got like swindled by a carne who ended 100 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: up getting the patent to whack a mole. He blew it. 101 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: Then he's like Okay, let me just invent every animatronic 102 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: robot at Chuck E Cheese slipped again like just totally 103 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: like blew his load and went wrecked. That business as 104 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: well used to have like three hundred employees in this 105 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: huge warehouse in Florida, and then like the business folded, 106 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: but he still has the warehouse and the robot that 107 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: the Chuck E Cheese robots like really is you know, 108 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: part of my childhood and like going up there and 109 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: even like I remember when people started like doing like 110 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: sort of like robot dancing challenges. A lot of people's 111 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: like inspiration point was the Yeah, so I check out 112 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: his YouTube channel though he is still programming those bots. 113 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: I have a suggestion for his next career is just 114 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: have like a Halloween haunted house where he just like 115 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: takes very specific parts of the fur off, so it's 116 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: just like the robot face or like a robot face. 117 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: It's full like five nights of Freddy's right. Yeah, to 118 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: help us, Jamie, what is something that's overrated? Overrated? Oh? 119 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: Have either of you read this book The War of 120 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: Art by Stephen Pressfield. It is like a book that 121 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: was recommended to me several times in the past week. 122 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: It's one of those like self hope, like You're going 123 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: to be the greatest writer in the world if you 124 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: read this book. I would expand this overrated to eight 125 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: percent of self help books written by men because it is. 126 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: It is like the most aggross self help book I've 127 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: ever read in my life. Basically all casts in a 128 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: sarafant two inch margins and like people I love and 129 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: respect were like, you gotta read it. And then it 130 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: was written in O two as well. So Stephen Pressfield, 131 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: like you know what, like seriously, he has a lot 132 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: of takes on nine eleven, like right after it happened. 133 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: He said that the Holocaust was a result of procrastination. 134 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: He says a lot. He said that Lance arms Strong 135 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: was like the Pantheon of discipline and success because it 136 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: was two thousand. He said that Tiger Woods had great 137 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: discipline in his personal and professional life. He just says 138 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff. He's like, mental illness is caused 139 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: by you not doing your art. He's like, people who 140 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: get cancer are just procrastinating on being a genius. And 141 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: my favorite post, yeah, cancer is caused by blocked artistic Yes, cancer, 142 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: cancer and the Holocaust were caused by people, not just procrastinating. 143 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: And then you're like, Hitler was like a blocked artist. Yeah, 144 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: that's his that he's and and he gets really cute 145 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: about it. He's like, listen, this is just my take. 146 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: But maybe if Hitler had stopped procrastinating on that painting, 147 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: the Holocaust wouldn't have freaking happen. And then you're like, wait, 148 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: what are his qualifications? And this is the best. His 149 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: biggest success was he wrote the Legend of baggar Vance. 150 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: That's it, the racist golf movie, The Legend of baggar Van. 151 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: It's so that I'm so I spent fourteen dollars on 152 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: that pile of garbage. I'm so madding this to you 153 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: people I love. And then I likely no, like a 154 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: family recommend, like a director. The director I work with 155 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: all the time was like, I read this book and 156 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: it stressed me out, but I think that that probably 157 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: is a good thing. Uh. An illustrator that I work 158 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: with a lot, it's yeah, if you see this book 159 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: or this book is recommended to you, it is. It 160 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: is just it is a crop of ship. It's really bad. 161 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: Have you read The Artist's Way? I haven't no, written 162 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: by a woman and it. Have you ever heard of 163 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: like people doing morning pages where they like write freehand 164 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: for three pages every morning, just like so that's an 165 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: exercise from that book. And it's actually, I don't know, 166 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty decent book that doesn't sound 167 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: like the worst thing at all. Yeah, it's not aggressive 168 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: and like, get I'm all for people like wanting to 169 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: better themselves. But it like went from like you should 170 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: write more to holocaust conspiracy theory very clearly. This book 171 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: about the world wants to stop your art. It's like 172 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: some weird blasted out there. Like if you're not up 173 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: at four am writing your racist golf movie, you are 174 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: scumb You should try The Laws of Power. That's another 175 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: and that's worth reading because then you can like see 176 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: other people trying to use and you're like, yeah, you're so, 177 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: you're so, you're so, like, hey, this is Hannah. I 178 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: just want to give you. Let you guys know how 179 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: I was raised. My father gave me The forty eight 180 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: Laws of Power when I was ten years old. I'm 181 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: not even joking. I have the book to this day 182 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: on my bookshelf and told me to read it and 183 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: learn from it. It's really interesting because that book had 184 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: a sort of cultural like peak where everything came together 185 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: in the early two thousand's, like a Dov Charne was like, 186 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: this is the atheist's Bible, forty eight Laws of Power. 187 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: And also Fitty sent all about it and like claimed 188 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: that it like him his success and then like all 189 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: those people have like fallen off become monsters. Also, I 190 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: want to say he did. My dad also had a 191 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: page of it photo copied and printed out and on 192 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: his wall in his office. So growing up, I'd always 193 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: see the thing about how you take credit for other 194 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: people's work. And one of his employees told me that 195 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: he was scared of my father because of it. That's 196 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: a real thing that happened in my life. No, it's 197 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: a book about that encourages you to fun people over power. 198 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: But that and like how to win friends and influence 199 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: people is part of like I worked at a bookstore 200 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: when I first moved here, and it's just part of 201 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: like the the l a Fun Boys starter pack, like 202 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: like it was like that the Fat Jew book. God, 203 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: it's the last thing I'll say about the War of 204 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: Art by Stephen Pressfield. The worst book ever written is 205 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: that he like you know, he's like reject all critics. 206 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: Anyone who criticizes you as jealous of you amazing. He 207 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: uses this example of like, if your wife is eight 208 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: months pregnant and is saying you're focusing on in your 209 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: art too much, she's wrong. And then and then he 210 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: was like, think about it. Leo Tolstoy had thirteen kids 211 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: and he wrote war in Peace. I was like, anyone 212 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: could have thirteen kids, did they like he was? It 213 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: made me so mad, And as somebody who has worked 214 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: in sort of encouraging other creative people, like I think 215 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: you and I have both. Uh, this is a very 216 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: dangerous message to put out there because there are a 217 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: lot of people who want to be creatives and to 218 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: the detriment of the rest of their life, who like 219 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: take it the wrong way and get into it for 220 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: the wrong reasons, and a message like that can be really, 221 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: really toxic. I'm all for self discipline, but it's like, 222 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: if you're especially like, you can't be creative unless you're 223 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: also having a life and have things to pull. So 224 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: don't ignore your eight months pregnant wife. Stephen Pressfield child, 225 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm surprised it just wasn't like, yeah, you're eight month 226 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: with brgnant wife. She's a hater, pick her up by 227 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: the head and put her in the trash like you're 228 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: just like Jesus Jamie. What's something that's underrated? Oh this 229 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm very excited about. Um. There is a show on 230 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: Adult Swim right now called Joe Para Talks to You 231 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: and you already done this one. I love this. The 232 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: last night's episode is like one of my favorite things 233 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: I've ever seen ever. I won't spoil it, but it's 234 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: about the character. Here's Baba O'Reilly for the first time, 235 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: and that is the whole episode. It's really really good. 236 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think it's called Yeah Joe Parr reads 237 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: the church announcements, so everyone should watch it. So I 238 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: think you have recommended this before, and then people started 239 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: recommending it to me and my Twitter mentions, so it's 240 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: but it's almost like, bro, we've already been on this 241 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: because of Yami Lofty exactly. Also, then we start talking 242 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: about conor'malley. I think does he write on it or 243 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: does he I think both? I think hilarious meeting. If 244 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: you guys can find look at Conromalley's old vine videos. 245 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: You want to see some wild, crazy new York Ship. Yeah, 246 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: just one of the funniest dudes. All right. And finally, 247 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: what's a myth? What's something people think is true that 248 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: you know based on your personal experience? This is okay? 249 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: So this weekend? Okay? So I would say, I would 250 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: say this myth is that you should talk about things 251 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: that upset you in a public place. But I think 252 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: this is true. I was with a friend from college 253 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: this weekend. We went to Denny's and I was talking 254 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: about the most public of places, the most public. We 255 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: were fully in the atwater Denny's, getting into the think 256 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: of it hadn't caught up in a while, and we 257 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: like gone on to this like I was basically just 258 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: like talking with her about one of the worst things 259 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: that had ever happened to me. And it was like 260 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: kind of an emotional conversation. And we were talking and 261 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: drinking coffee, and then all of a sudden, Who Let 262 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: the Dogs Out came on full blast in the restaurant, 263 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: and we just like looked at each other, like we 264 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: have to stop talking. This conversation is over inappropriate with 265 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: this music on, and I was like, I think I'm 266 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: actually over it now. So yeah, talk about talking about 267 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: your past traumas in Denny's, I think is my recommendation. Yeah, 268 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: because their their radio is wild. Maybe we'll have to 269 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: have that be a preloaded sound drop we do when 270 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: people start getting really like dark Ship, then sudden we 271 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: just nick hit it. Guys, I'm just talking about mine anyway. 272 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: You're like I was talking about how my father left, 273 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: and they're just like your should have remixed it. By 274 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: the way, the guy who wrote that song credits the 275 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: forty Laws of Power for giving him thence for it. Now, 276 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, like nearly everybody in hip hop flouting 277 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: Kanye and jay z Drake everybody, Hey, speaking of hip 278 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: hop and Kanye, he released an album last week. Let's 279 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: get into what people are thinking of talking about right 280 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: now and the kind album I think you guys touched 281 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: on a little bit on Friday. We've had a weekend 282 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: to listen to it, and I think I don't know 283 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: our overall. My overall takeaway is that it's very uneven 284 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: and probably the worst thing he's ever done. Uh, but 285 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: it also has really high highs. Like a lot of 286 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: his projects. Do I really like the first song, the 287 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: second and third or solid I really like ghost Town, 288 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: the song to his daughter about like how he doesn't 289 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: want her to be hot is the worst thing he's 290 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: ever done. It's like the rap version of one of 291 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: those Matt Damon quotes that starts out as a father 292 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: of daughters, I understand crossed with one of those purity 293 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: ball events in the South where daughters promised their chastity 294 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: to their fathers. Which is is that the thing like 295 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: they It almost looks like a wedding sit It is 296 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: right like the father and daughter like like proclaimed to 297 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: each other. That's that's how bad the song is is 298 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: It reminded me of that, And then I just went 299 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: on a deep dive on like Wikipedia on on the 300 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Chasti Ball and her purity Ball. Rather, it's really like 301 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: the It's realities version of American Pie and that it 302 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: seems like it's from five generations ago, but it was 303 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: fairly recent. Really Yeah, yeah, I guess that makes sense. Yeah, 304 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: what what did you find? Yeah? Yeah, bring us down 305 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: the Wikipedia. It's just this incredible article where it's like, 306 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, this gray haired guy sitting next to They 307 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: just describe her as like a woman in a floor 308 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: length gown with her hair in an upd like seems 309 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: like a wedding for all intensive purposes. He pulls out 310 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: a ring like shows it to her and she starts crying. Yeah, 311 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: and then they're like yeah, and that daughter is seventeen 312 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: years old and that is his daughter, and they danced 313 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: together and they it's all sorts of beard and likekwardly 314 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: romantic in a way that I don't know. It's just 315 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: totally unself conscious about how creepy it is because they're 316 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: just claiming protectorship over their daughter's body. Yeah, and it 317 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: also has the sort of the war of Art vibe 318 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: where it's like they declare war on things that shouldn't 319 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: be possible to declare war on. There's a quote from 320 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: this article. Pastor Randy Wilson takes the microphone and asks 321 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: the men, are you ready to war for your daughter's purity? 322 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: You're ready to kill for your daughter's tim Yeah, you're like, 323 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: never mind? Is she probably broke it on a bike 324 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: seat when she was younger? Find the man you kill. 325 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: The purity ball guidelines suggest that the daughters be just 326 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: old enough to have begun menstruating. Uh cool, something that 327 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: everyone should well yeah, because yeah, that those kindy lyrics 328 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: really are kind of like whoa man now that I 329 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: think about my done daughter, like, yeah, men do some 330 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: gross stuff. And then like other songs are like about 331 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: him sucking other people that besides his wife and your Yeah, 332 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: that we should just do a universal like Kabash on 333 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: men being allowed to be like as a follower of daughters, 334 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: I understand where Like I was on the phone with 335 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: my dad the other night and we were we were 336 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: sparring about sam be using the C word, and my 337 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: dad was like, I don't know. I mean, as your father, 338 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: I think that it's a pretty vile word. And then 339 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: in the middle he's like, oh, my teeth fell out. 340 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: Your opinion is invalid on teeth literally fell out while 341 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: you were saying I don't think people should use this 342 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: sewhere click there is something about because Rudy Giuliani, his 343 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: teeth always seem on the verge of falling out. I 344 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: feel like there's something about conservative politics and like your 345 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: teeth just wanting to escape from your head. I don't know. 346 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: My dad loses his teeth everywhere. It's very funny thing. 347 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: It It is a hockey thing to lose your teeth, 348 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: but your dad wasn't. My dad doesn't play hockey. He 349 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: just reports about it, which shouldn't so yeah, it's on him. 350 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: But the other day he's like, you know, I lost 351 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: my I lost my teeth and they were on top 352 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: of my Elvis Costello c D collection, which stacks so 353 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: high that you can't see it without a ladder. Um 354 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: Back to Kanye, So apparently the album was created like fully, 355 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 1: none of these songs existed before that TMZ interview always 356 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: sounds like yeah, well, and that's according to people who 357 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: have reported on the process. It was all like put 358 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: together very quickly, which the thing that used to separate 359 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: his work from a lot of other people's work is 360 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: what a perfectionist he is. And this sounds rushed and 361 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: not that well thought through. And even the push of 362 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: the album that he produced like sounded it seven tracks 363 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: that you got the sense it was like they took 364 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: the seven best tracks from like a collection of fifteen 365 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: and we're just like, we're just making it all killer, 366 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: no filler, whereas this just seems like the first seven 367 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: tracks of a bad Kanye album, very first drafty. You know, 368 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: we knew something was wrong with him based on his 369 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: public appearances over the last couple of months, and the 370 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: album just kind of further shows that he's not in 371 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: the best place, especially to be creating, and he's still 372 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: saying the dumbest shit out loud on record. And I've 373 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: never come at the guy's music, but this is like 374 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: one of the first times I really feel sort of 375 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: a little bummed for him as a creator. I'm like, 376 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: damn you really just this sounds so all over the place. 377 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: The first song I actually really like a lot, but 378 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: it goes all over the place from like silently being 379 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: like I thought about killing you to do it on 380 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: the bus or something. I got a out killing you 381 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: premeditated murder ah cps. Because also, who the funk is 382 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: he talking about when he's like I thought about killing you, 383 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: best believe that speculate. I assumed it was Kim, but 384 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: I ever heard stuff like that said on the bus 385 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: to the Glendale Galeria before. Yeah, you never want to 386 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: start off with something about yeah I thought about premeditated 387 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: murder into like impromptu humming. But that song like it 388 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: feels like two songs that could have been good, and 389 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: then just we're kind of all over the place because 390 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: then suddenly he's like, yeah, like I've been in some 391 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: bad places using the floor as ash Train. He's like, 392 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: it's a different set of rules that we obey. You're like, whoa, 393 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: it's the same song, Okay, right, Yeah, I don't know anyway, 394 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: It's it's one of those things I just I'll maybe 395 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: can only listen to like three of the songs on there, 396 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. I feel like he had 397 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: a chance to maybe do something slightly redeemable off the 398 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: back of all that dumb ship that he said, and 399 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: then he really does nothing to address that. Even when 400 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 1: he talks about the slavery was a choice thing, it's 401 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: just sort of like I told him she could have left, 402 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: but she so she's loyal. Yeah, it's like the worst 403 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: thing you could have done. It just kind of is 404 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: just like a weird, like literal Yeah, I just want 405 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: to shout out all my bipolar heads again because I 406 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: don't know, like he he makes a big deal about 407 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: his mental illness on this album. That's mostly what it's about, 408 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: and it and and you can sort of like hear 409 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: that thought process, and I don't know, it's it's weird 410 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 1: to hear someone in the thick of it making, you know, 411 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: releasing their first draft. Basically, I don't I'm interested in 412 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: how that like affects the mental health conversation, if at all. 413 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: But more than anything, it's like the way you see 414 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: people responding to this album who were like two weeks ago, 415 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: they were like, he's dead to me, hate He's no, no, 416 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: he's canceled, he's done. Now they're like track two is 417 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: actually pretty good. I'm guilty of that. Interesting that that's 418 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: my jack Butt program. My beefs with him have always 419 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: been about his politics or what he does with his celebrity. Basically, yeah, 420 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: because I always said that even in the thick of 421 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: his dumb fuccory uh is that like it? That's why 422 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: I was so upset because he has made like an 423 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: album that I feel is one of the better hip 424 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: hop albums that's ever been made, and so no funny 425 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: pile and again, but it's it's one of those things too, 426 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: where it shows how invested people can be when they're like, well, 427 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: but I also got to find out. But at the 428 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: end of the day, this just further underlines how little 429 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: he knows about his own place or the world or whatever, 430 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: because it comes off so odd and like just tone 431 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: deaf and spots that I'm just was really like, look, 432 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: that's why. To me, it was just kind of like 433 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, a lot of people on tour like, yo, 434 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: this is the greatest album, or other people like this 435 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: is great, this is the worst fucking now buck you 436 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: and people were like getting upset over it. To me, 437 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm just sort of like, he made this album in 438 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: a week and he literally got flamed on TMZ and 439 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: his response is this, and it sounds like this sort 440 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: of like this impulsive thing that he did. So I 441 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: don't I don't know is he gonna want to count 442 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: this as one of his albums? Yeah, And I mean 443 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: none of the seven songs apparently existed back when he 444 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: gave himself this self imposed deadline to release the album 445 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: last week, and then apparently he told Charlie Mane in 446 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: an interview that he completely reworked the songs after that 447 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: TMZ slavery was a choice thing. Wow, So not only 448 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: was like last minute album, like last minute do your 449 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: homework for him together? Yeah? Alright, Well sounds like that. 450 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: This is one point he makes where he refers to 451 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: himself in the third person and then from that transitions 452 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: into being able to like see outside of himself and 453 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: therefore being bipolar as a superpower, which I do think 454 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: that he didn't take it like that. You didn't take that. 455 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was that he was seeing 456 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: outside of himself. It was just sort of like I 457 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: think he called out his own narcissism in a way, 458 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: like he was clearly like maybe someone in therapy was like, 459 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: you see how you tend to do the third person, 460 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: you're narcissism. Because he's like, yeah, that's the third person. 461 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: He's like, wait, I heard that's my bipolar ship. I'm 462 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: sucking superhero. That's me trying to track his thought process, 463 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: which probably doesn't make sense. What do you think thinking 464 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: of looking at his bipolar disorder as a superpower? I well, 465 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,239 Speaker 1: I don't speak behalf personally. How does that strike you? 466 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems a little bit like off 467 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: and and and that makes sense if you're in the 468 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: middle of a bipolar manic episode that you would see 469 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: things off. That's like what they're characterized by. But I 470 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I just it bums me out a little 471 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: bit that this is like, well, he's acting this way 472 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: because he's bipolar. He's acting it just I think kind 473 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: of oversimplifies a more complicated illness uh and and basically 474 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: just characterizes anyone who does have bipolar disease as like 475 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: someone who's completely unhinged and can't and just using the 476 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: bipolar to justify stuff he says in the media of like, 477 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, being bipolar has never made me think that's 478 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: like Bray was a choice. Like there's other stuff at play, 479 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: and there's like more context and the fact that it's 480 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: being boiled down to like, well, he's going through a 481 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: bipolar manic episode. That seems like it's true, but there's 482 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: also like other stuff on yes, clearly, and just from 483 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: a public persona perspective, it seems like the parts of 484 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: him that have always like kind of captured people who 485 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: don't care about his arts attention, like his sort of rambling, uh, 486 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, jumping on stage at awards shows, and just 487 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: basically you know, toxic narcissism, like that person is eating 488 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: like the creator on this album. You can almost hear 489 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 1: that happening. Yeah, And I think the lack of like 490 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: at least I haven't looked at all the credits, but 491 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: it seems like not many people were helping him with 492 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: the songwriting part, and that's always like a mark of 493 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: most of his albums. Yeah, I mean, anything that's that 494 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: rushed is going to be hard to not like this 495 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: second Rade podcast, right, that's right, all right, we'll bring 496 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: the heat. We're going to take a quick break. We'll 497 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: be right back. And we're back, and it is time 498 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: to talk about that Supreme Court decision seven to It 499 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: was a route for the conservative side on this decision 500 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: that people have been talking about for years where a 501 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: baker in Colorado decided to not bake a cake for 502 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: a gay couple's wedding and then the Civil Liberties Department 503 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: or Colorado Civil Rights Commission basically told him he wasn't 504 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: allowed to make that decision. So, like I said, Drudge 505 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: is treating this as a huge victory for conservative politics, 506 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: conservative thought in general. Yeah, and it's not really the 507 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: case here. I mean, if you really like look at it, 508 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: because like the first thing that was going like as 509 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: you say seven to a lot of people like on 510 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: super right wing Twitter, we're like, that's a blowout because 511 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people like when they look at the 512 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: New York Times or Watchington Posts, they say it was 513 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: a narrow decision, blah blah blah. These people like seven 514 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: to two is not narrow, my guy. But they're not 515 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: thinking in terms of how you describe a decision as 516 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: being narrow or broad in its applications and narrow case. 517 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: It is very narrow because it applies to this one instance. Uh. 518 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: And so to like, you know, be blowing up your 519 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: LGBT rainbow cakes on your your mast head for your website, Uh, 520 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't quite relate to what's actually happening with this case. 521 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: So the Dredge headline that's in the huge font is supremes, 522 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: which is what we're calling anymore. Uh, Supremes Colin, you 523 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: don't have to bake that cake, and then a big 524 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: picture of a rainbow cake. Uh. Which it's weird because 525 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 1: when you click through on that article, it makes it 526 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: clear that the you and that headline is literally a 527 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: single individual human being. That's what they're saying is that 528 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: this one person didn't have to bake the cake because 529 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: of the way the Colorado Civil Rights Commission worded their 530 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: admonition of him, right, they were too strong in their wording, 531 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: and it did you know, strike the seven of the 532 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices as implying sort of condemnation of his 533 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: religious and semantic thing right, Well, in Justice Kennedy in 534 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: his ruling, like he he writes that specifically what they 535 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: did in Colorado, like that's that's exactly what they're overturning. 536 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: Is like based on their handling of it. That's why 537 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: we're saying he's allowed to do whatever he wants because 538 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: they sort of weaponized his religion against him because in 539 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: the ruling made in Colorado, they're like, you know, they 540 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: were sort of using the thing of like religious freedom 541 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: has been done in the name of all kinds of 542 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: horrible things and blah blah blah. And in that ruling 543 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: they said into that judge was making the ruling was 544 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: quote one of the most despicable pieces of rhetoric that 545 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: people can use. And that's what Kennedy kind of went 546 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: on to, is like to describe their faith as despicable rhetoric. 547 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: You know, that's like to disparage his religion and therefore 548 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So I mean he was It's kind 549 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: of one of those rulings where everyone kind of takes 550 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: something home where people, if you're on the anti LGBT side, 551 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, you see, he was able to 552 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: do that that doesn't mean everybody who wants to discriminate 553 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: can do that. That's a whole other thing that will 554 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: probably end up in the Supreme Court eventually. But also, 555 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, this isn't exactly a blow to LGBT rights either, 556 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: even though seemingly on the surface it feels like that. 557 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, Kennedy's opinion also shows ways that states can 558 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: enforce lgbt Q non discrimination laws without bumping into the 559 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: constitutional free speech kinds of things. That was what created 560 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: this whole situation. Um, yeah, but it's yeah, I think 561 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to take what they 562 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: want to, especially you know, as you know, cultural wars 563 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: in full swing now. So I wish I mean, it's 564 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: like obviously we all wish it did on the other way. 565 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: But it does seem like a case of wording. Yeah, 566 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: well that's why a lot of there are a lot 567 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: of articles and they're like, Hi, this apply is literally 568 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: to this one person, this one man who six years 569 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: ago too. This is like a originally was the cake 570 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: request they believe, Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly, and this is 571 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: that long tick and I don't think they want to 572 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: hear another case like this for a minute. So we'll see. 573 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the other thing is Kennedy did 574 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: reassert sort of the dignity that you know, gay people 575 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: should be treated with and all these other things. I 576 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: know in Justice Ginsberg's notes in her descent, she was 577 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: just kind of talking about the line of reasoning that 578 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: was being used a little bit different because really, these 579 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: two people were being turned away because of their identity, 580 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: not because of a message that they wanted to put 581 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: on the cake, because they're like sort of on the 582 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: facts of it. They were talking about the messaging that 583 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: would be on the cake or whatever. So it's again, 584 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: it was like one of those decisions that luckily not broad, 585 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: but kind of leaves everybody wanting a little bit more 586 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: to know, like where where are we really going to 587 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: fall on this? But yeah, I think there is maybe 588 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: this creeping narrative on the conservative side that they are 589 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: riding a on swell of Trump's got this North Korea 590 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: thing going, and now we've got this win in the 591 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. So I think this is tying into a 592 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: broader overall narrative. So if you click through the headline 593 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: that Drudge has there implying that the group the supremes 594 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: have said something about baking the cake. The article is 595 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: an ap article that specifically says in one of the 596 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: you know first ten paragraphs. But the justices did not 597 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: issue a definitive ruling on the circumstances under which people 598 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: can seek exemptions from antidiscrimination laws and other like sort 599 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: of important claims raised in the case were completely left alone. 600 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: So they basically just ruled on a single individual case. 601 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: They just judged judy did They were just like in 602 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: this individual case we find for the would I think 603 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: handled it a little bit better? Like you're an idiot? 604 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: Diana Rosse would have made the cake? Yes? Would no? No, no, 605 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: she will let the other people do it. And then 606 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: in the back bank credit because we want the Diana 607 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: Ross was the least talented. It's true issue. She had 608 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: the sure of singing voice was not as good as 609 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: the rest of the group. That doesn't mean she wasn't 610 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: a great front person, but if we're talking purely off 611 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: quality of voice, I mean, look, don't at me, please, 612 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: don't burying that fire tape. Yeah, well too, what are 613 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: you gonna do? What are you gonna do? All right, now, 614 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this sort of narrative of 615 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: Trump being on a winning streak. People are saying that 616 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: his popularity is surging because it's up I think two 617 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: percentage points into the low forties, which is good for 618 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: him for so long. I do want to talk about 619 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: something that I think is powering this. I don't want 620 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: to get into that narrative of Trump is great at 621 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: his job. I do think that there's a way in 622 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: which he sucks at his job is actually making it 623 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: possible for him to have those wins. And that is 624 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: just complete and utter shamelessness. And the thing that crystallized 625 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: this for me was the North Korea meeting and the 626 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: sending of the letter and where he came out strong 627 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: the meeting wasn't happening. We're calling it off because you've 628 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: mistreated us, and then immediately was willing to completely backtrack 629 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: on that, which seems weird. But I also think it's 630 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: worth noting that there's not a single president we've ever had. 631 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: I don't think who would be shameless enough to do that, 632 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: to just you know, be like that inconsistent. Yeah, just 633 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: just there's no logic, there's no reasoning, there's nothing, there's 634 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: no idea that he has to be this solid leader. 635 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: He's just whatever at the moment grabs him. It's it's 636 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: like playing out like I messages threat between him and 637 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: Kim John exactly, you don't come. I don't want to 638 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: see your ass and I'm sorry baby, okay with in 639 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: June twelve, Yeah, like yeah, and this could go either 640 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: like yeah, it's like a relationship between two like nineteen 641 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: year olds. Maybe that's what reality television. If anything, I 642 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: feel like this. The only possible positive spin on this 643 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: is that the people around Trump are getting better at 644 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: leveraging his weaknesses to make something good happen. He has 645 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: nothing to do with him as an individual. He's still 646 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: a fucking loser right for sure. But I don't know, 647 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: do you think can you call the North Korea summit 648 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: a win at all at any point? Because I honestly 649 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: North Korea wins a lot more just by even getting 650 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: this summit then we do. Yeah, sure, maybe three prisoners 651 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: were like released, but aside from that, like you know, 652 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot that North Korea gains, especially Kim John 653 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: Oon gains in the propaganda wars that he has not 654 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: been able to be seen legitimately, like you know, by 655 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: other powers because he hasn't met with like real world 656 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: leaders because they won't do it, and for him to 657 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: get this opportunity, like you know that picture is gonna 658 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: be on like on fucking T shirts already, Like they 659 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: love the envelope that he was holding when like the 660 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: ex spy chief of North Korea came to hand deliver 661 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: that letter to Trump over the weekend. What a weird 662 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: photograph look like it was photoshopped to make the envelope huge, 663 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: exactly his hand face. That could be genius strolling from 664 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: North Korea to They're like, Yo, get the biggest fucking 665 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: mbolm you can get to get the photo of him 666 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: holding it, so it looks his hands very uncanny Valley, 667 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: there's a polar express quality. It really looks like it 668 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: could have been designed by your guy from who designed 669 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: the chuck e cheese Like he he could be in 670 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: the Hall of President's shoutout factor. Yeah, that's a fair point. 671 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: And a lot of this sort of surging and you know, 672 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: Trump being seen in a slightly more favorable light could 673 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: easily just be that. The mainstream media narrative of holy shit, 674 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: this guy is constantly fucking up in such a total 675 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: suck up has just become exhausting we knew that was 676 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: going to happen eventually, that the mainstream media was gonna 677 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: be like, nobody wants to hear about him screwing up anymore. People. 678 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 1: People are in the mood for optimism, So don't pretend, oh, 679 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: like he totally fucked up and so good that we're 680 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: in a war. I don't know how at that point 681 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: what you do? I mean, you got to keep the 682 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: pressure on him, and people have to remember how bad 683 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: he is because for exactly the reason that people become 684 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 1: like Apathel set in and then this will become totally normal. 685 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: And next thing you know, we have even more white 686 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: supremacists and nazi fucking candidates running for office, and people 687 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: want to put them on CNN, like, yeah, let's hear 688 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: this guy out. He says, African Americans have I accused 689 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: twenty points. Get the funk? What the funk is going on? Yeah, So, anyway, 690 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: I guess the pressure. My only thought with the North 691 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: Korea thing is that the difference between now and in 692 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: the past is that they do have intercontinental ballistic missiles 693 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: that can potentially reach America now, and I think other 694 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: presidents I have been more in keeping with general military 695 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: strategies of like being hard line and maybe not meeting 696 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: with him, and he's just so fucking thirsty for a 697 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: win and shameless that he will call off the meeting 698 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: and then be like, no, I never called off the meeting. 699 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,479 Speaker 1: You called off the meeting. You're an idiot. You're lying. 700 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: Moving on. And another shameless thing that he's doing that 701 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: I definitely don't think is seen as a win, but 702 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: it just is. Another example of just staggering shamelessness is 703 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: he and his lawyers are laying the groundwork for him 704 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: to pardon himself. It's crazy though, too, like they were 705 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: really there, like whoa, he is the embodiment of the law, 706 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: therefore he cannot obstruct it. It's really and you know 707 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: that's going to be like an event. Oh yeah, he lf, 708 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: I hope he pardons himself as if he is a turkey, 709 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: the smaller version of himself. And he's like it's or 710 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: like normally when he pardons a turkey, he's like, and 711 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: today I will pardon myself President Donald Trump. Ha ha 712 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: ha I am god. Yeah, but so's if we approach 713 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: it like the turkey, it's like, okay, we pardon you. 714 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: But it's still okay, for you to be killed at 715 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: eton this way they talk about like their their logic 716 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: about him basically saying, well, I can't obstruct because I 717 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: am The law is saying, quote, the Constitution leaves no 718 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: question that the president has executive authority over the ultimate 719 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: conduct and disposition of all criminal investigations and over those 720 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: executive branch officials responsible for conducting those investigations. Thus, as 721 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: set forth more fully below, as a matter of law 722 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: and common sense, the president cannot obstruct himself or subordinates 723 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: acting on his behalf. Yeah, okay, And a lot of 724 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: the shamelessness is just him knowing that he has a 725 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: portion of the population that will support him no matter what. 726 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: Because well, also people who are like the Constitution. If 727 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: you read that ship, you would understand that this is 728 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: basically the antithesis of what the people were trying to 729 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: do when they wrote the Constitution. Yeah yeah, And also 730 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: just laws of human society, like the pope can't even 731 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: pardon himself, No kings like so many throughout the history 732 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: of the world, so many kings have been deposed and 733 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: like beheaded and right, you know, that's just not a 734 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: thing you ever give. Even people with absolute authority the 735 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: power to do like you can't just be like and 736 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: I hereby treat myself as the convict in question and 737 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: give myself an excuse. It just doesn't. This is just 738 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: like more high level trolling, like what what that? And 739 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,799 Speaker 1: just he shows you. I mean, it's heat. No, this 740 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: is clearly you don't have to start talking like this. 741 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to inoculate your base into being like, hey, 742 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know. When I do this and 743 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: people act like I can't do it, you can point 744 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: to this letter saying why I pardon myself because if 745 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: things look increasingly more and more difficult for him, sounds 746 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: like democracy to me. Yeah right, I mean like, yeah, 747 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: I think and many people, like people have always said 748 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: throughout this whole thing, none of his actions are the 749 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: actions of an innocent person. And I don't think anyone 750 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: has any question that there's some some kind of ship 751 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: went down. We don't know to what extent, But this 752 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: just smacks of just guilt and doing whatever you have 753 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: to to to avoid responsibility. If you had any self 754 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: awareness about whether or gave a ship, whether you appeared 755 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: guilty or innocent, you would not even broach the subject 756 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: of pardoning yourself. Weirdly, Giuliani on the Sunday Shows yesterday 757 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: was like, and he would probably be immediately impeached, So 758 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: we were not even raising the issue of that. But 759 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 1: he could. But he could if he wanted, because that's 760 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: like random, He's still trying to like play the reason 761 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: card where it's like, of course he would, because that 762 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: would upend the constitution and full blown constitutional cris Do 763 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: you guys think you said high high level trolling. I 764 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: had this specific thought when I was listening to you 765 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: guys last week talk about the Milannia thing that it 766 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: almost seems do you think there's anyone in that organization 767 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: who is sort of programming the mainstream media and social 768 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: media to focus on these other like stupid bullshit problems. 769 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: And because the Milannia thing is so weird and so specific, 770 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: like that she's not appearing in the media, and then 771 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,240 Speaker 1: they put out that statement where it was clearly written 772 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: by Trump and it was almost intentionally seems like it 773 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 1: could have been intentionally suspicious. Do you think there's any 774 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: chance that they're just doing this too, you know, force 775 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: the opposition to burn calories? No, I mean I think 776 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: that there's something to that. I don't know. It's it's 777 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: hard to think too hard about that without going down 778 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: like a conspiracy rab rabbit hole. But I mean this 779 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: White House, I mean most white has it been like this. 780 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: Whye has in particular is definitely good at the misdirect 781 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: of being like hey, like and and they don't mind 782 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: because Trump is such a idiot, Like they don't mind 783 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: selling him out and making him look like an idiot 784 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: to distract from something actually sinister that is happening, right, Yeah. 785 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: But also the Milannia things just sort of played out 786 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: in a very organic way. It's like we haven't seen 787 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: her in a long time. I think they're straight up 788 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: plagiarizing Shelly mis Cabbage. They're just like they're like, yeah, 789 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: this turns some heads back in the day, maybe we 790 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: could do a high. In my mind, I really just 791 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: think she is like burning out trying to like deal 792 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: with all that ship. I don't know. I feel like 793 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: there's also a version where she just doesn't was like Millennia, 794 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: will you come out to this and He's like, no, 795 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: not going anywhere anymore. Yeah, and then it just sort 796 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: of like after like weeks, you're like, damn, she didn't 797 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: showed up anywhere, and then people start speculating, and then 798 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: there's response. I don't know if they're like, Okay, is 799 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: what you gonna do. You can stay in the shadows, 800 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: you can be in the cut for five weeks, and 801 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: then people be like, where's Milannia, And then we can 802 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: use that to cause a distraction. Yeah, I think there's 803 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: around in a disguise. Like when Bono got into that 804 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,399 Speaker 1: bike accident and they found out that Bono travels around 805 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: New York dressed as a rabbi, got into like a 806 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: near fatal biking accident, and they were like, weird, this 807 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: rabbi who got in this biking accident, as they were 808 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: putting him in the ambulance has a fake beard on 809 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: and this is a disguise and they pulled it off 810 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,479 Speaker 1: and it was from you too, and he was like, yeah, 811 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: this is how I get around, like without being mobbed 812 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: by people. He's like, yeah, where are you staying on 813 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: Broadway and East guitar say all right, we're gonna take 814 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back, and we're 815 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: back and Bono's people, by the way, denying that he 816 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: was actually dressed. Yeah, they just got back to us. 817 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: That was quick. Yeah, they were really on that. Welcome 818 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: for texting, ban, thank you. I got Bond's number. Well, 819 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: I think everyone does. You have an iPhone? Hey, talk 820 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: to Bono into his ship. Except for dressing like a 821 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: sidy jew and crash bike, he was in a disguise 822 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: of some sort. They're just denying that it was anything 823 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: religiously offense. But that was because you're seeing the Edge 824 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: joked that it was, and then there if they had 825 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,919 Speaker 1: to be like, oh no, no, no was easy Edge. 826 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: That's a little that's a joke too. On the Edge. 827 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: You think I get to call him Edge? Or do 828 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: you think it's always easy? The Edge? The Edge? I mean, 829 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: fuck you. If you're gonna bother yourself to have the 830 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: the in front of it, you better be beating, like 831 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: like if you see the weekend, you're like, what's up 832 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 1: the weekend? Right? You can be just like what's the weekend? 833 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: That would be weird. What's the Edge's real name? Look 834 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: that up? Damn David Howell Evans, Yeah, David Evans the 835 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 1: Edge for he wrote a song on the Spider Man Musical. 836 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why I know that? Oh did he 837 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 1: the Edge? Yeah, well I thought most of the music 838 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: was written by you two. Well the Edge got his 839 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: own song. Is the Edge the ring go of YouTube? No? No, 840 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: the Edge is the Lenin or McCartney of you two. 841 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: I don't care about I don't I don't know anything 842 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: about their process. I just think like, in terms of 843 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: public perception, he's the second most famous. Yeah, I don't 844 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: even know anybody. I only know Bono and The Edge, yea, 845 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: who the Fund is? Everybody else? I don't know. I 846 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: could be a bad YouTube fan, speaking speaking of celebrities 847 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: going around and disguises you guys. Uh, there's this new 848 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton novel that he co wrote with James Patterson. Uh. 849 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: And he's going on book tour talking about that ship, 850 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: which is so crazy because when I first started hearing 851 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: about I was like, oh, he wrote a biography. And 852 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: then you're like, this is fiction. Yes, this is fiction. Cool, 853 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: but it is about a fictional president who is a 854 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: war hero whose wife dies immediately. Because this is worse. 855 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: This is worse than George W's paintings, and her dying 856 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: words are promise me you'll meet someone else. Jonathan for real. 857 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 1: She was a brilliant law student when she met Duncan. 858 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: His name is so fucking bad. It is Jonathan Lincoln 859 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 1: Duncan Lincoln does this is just totally like ruining my impression. 860 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: I think that that's Bill Clinton. Like I personally view 861 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: myself to be duncan On Lincoln and Lincoln Duncan, so 862 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: they're not onto me. But there's he wouldn't realize that. 863 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: I feel like that's probably accurate. But he doesn't have 864 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: the access to his own Uh, I don't know. He 865 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: doesn't seem self aware in the writing of this book 866 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: based on this store guys just so one of the 867 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: things he does, it's the book is called The President's Missing, 868 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: and there's some ship going down and he decides he 869 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,720 Speaker 1: can't just stand by, so he goes out to his friend, 870 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: a beautiful Hollywood actress, and she gives him a disguise. No, 871 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: she gives him head, sanctioned by his wife, totally. His 872 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: wife's last words are, anyone can suck you off, and 873 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: you don't have to feel back. Remember you don't have to. 874 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: Even if it was before I died, It's all good. 875 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: She does give him head in the sense that she 876 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: gives him a disguise, a head head and he goes 877 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: around fighting crime in a disguise, like a makeup disguise. 878 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: He does, Yes, could. I couldn't get past the part 879 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: when it was just sort of like it's about this 880 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: fictional president. But you're saying he becomes a superhero and 881 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: that's why the president is missing. So they're cyber terrorists, obviously, 882 00:49:53,880 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: cyber Hecker. Yeah, they want to take down America with 883 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: a looming internet virus that is called dark Ages. This 884 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 1: is why old men can't write about computers. Yeah, exactly. 885 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: Uh So he decides that the only person who can 886 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: stop this is him as president. No experience fighting's like, 887 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: I know I have windows, but this seems like a 888 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: job for me. Super producer on a Josane while we're 889 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 1: discussing this sent me a wonderful gift of President Clinton 890 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: sitting at a computer, looking at it and giving like 891 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 1: a like computers, I understand this. Score Browsers is doing 892 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 1: a free preview weekend um one of three d pinball rules. 893 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: One of Lincoln Duncan's female advisors was quote publicly branded 894 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: by a crude reference to oral sex. Volunteer yourself and 895 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: then he's seen, he's taken aback when he was on 896 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: this book tour and in NBC was like, hey, man, 897 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: so let's talk about the Lewinsky thing maybe, like do 898 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: you have you apologized to her? I think you know 899 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: this interaction is and she goes, I've apologized to everybody 900 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: in the world, right he said, He said yes, and 901 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: was hoping like they would leave it at that, and 902 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: he was like, wait, so you've really like talk to 903 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: her when one and he was like, no, I not, 904 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,959 Speaker 1: I apologized to everyone in the world, but I alog yeah, 905 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,760 Speaker 1: And then he was like, I did a public apology. 906 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: Um so yeah, it was just he he got real testy. 907 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: He was like, should JFK apologize to Lyndon Johnson? Apologize? 908 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: Like way to throw the other presidents under the but 909 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: but also, asshole, you wrote a book where your wife 910 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: died and it's cool to funk around now. And he 911 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: straight up murdered Hillary page three, Like there, what if 912 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 1: the book starts off on her deathbed like a breathing 913 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: machine can be heard right back? Just get the important 914 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 1: business out of the way. Also, he's president and awesome 915 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 1: at everything. Then the nurse came in and said, I'm 916 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: so sorry, do you want to hook up? You're so hot? Mr. President, 917 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 1: he said, I guess so my wife said it's cool 918 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: she was gregnant. Uh, there as goofy, Like this story 919 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: is so like he is just so clueless and like, 920 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: of course he's volunteering himself for this question. How does 921 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: he not see it coming? But also it seems like 922 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: a kind of a common view among like men who 923 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: have like done something like this to a woman. There's 924 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: a great piece, Monica Lewinsky wrote earlier. I think it 925 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: was this year in Vanity Fair that um that sort 926 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: of hearkens to this, but like that someone who is 927 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: like done wrong against a woman, apologizing publicly makes it 928 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 1: so that you don't have to apologize privately, which is 929 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: so in like such an same thing. And I think 930 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: like even on a way smaller scale, like that thought 931 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: process prevails of like, well if I release a statement, 932 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: and that's basically the same thing as like most personal 933 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: acts possible, releasing a statement exactlyist. I mean, I like 934 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 1: I've I had an experience like that myself where it's 935 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: just like I was never apologized to, but there was 936 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 1: like someone was like, hey, everybody, I did it, and 937 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,919 Speaker 1: my bad. But it's just like that doesn't absolve you yet. 938 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: It's pr it's not it's not being a person. Sorry 939 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: that happens, you know, I'm I am certainly not alone 940 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: there the Yeah, that's kind of really heartbreaking here. Actually, uh, 941 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: just for him to even I think the logic that 942 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 1: he even uses, or maybe these men use, it's sort 943 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: of like, well, I apologize and they probably heard it. 944 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: Therefore it's a personal apology that I did publicly. I 945 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,240 Speaker 1: looked into a camera and she was looking at the screen. 946 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: Then I would be looking into her eyes. So yes, 947 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: did I apologize? No? Do it I And it's like, 948 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: do I think that he does believe that? Yes, but 949 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: I also do believe that, you know, deep down he 950 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: knows he's being a fucking coward and has been a 951 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 1: coward for twenty years. That's why he gets testy when 952 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: people really press over. Here's what I think he is 953 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 1: the best example of the fact that you know, how 954 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: they say that the average intelligence and a cult is 955 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 1: actually above average, like they tend to be smarter, And 956 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 1: it's because smart people can argue themselves into believing anything. 957 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: I think Clinton is the perfect example of that, and 958 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: that he can argue himself into being right in any 959 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: situation because he's got this like incredible analytical, you know, 960 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: lawyer's mind, and so he's just I don't think he's 961 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 1: felt guilt about anything in years decades, And I was like, yeah, 962 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: I can write this book about killing people in my 963 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: super comb. So in this piece that Monica Lewinsky wrote, 964 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: it's interesting because she's talking about how at uh yeah 965 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 1: this came out in March. Uh. She's talking about how 966 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 1: around New Year's this past New Year's she ran into 967 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: Ken's Star at a restaurant and that was like the 968 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: first time she'd ever met him, and he like sort 969 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: of apologized to her, but it was very awkward, and 970 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 1: it's just like the fact that you have to accidentally 971 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 1: run into someone twenty years later to get a sort 972 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: of apology. And even then he was like, yeah, weird, 973 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: weird time, wasn't it, you know, and like still couldn't 974 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: fully commit to an apology. It's just like, yeah, I 975 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: mean it was crazy. Do you want some of my 976 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 1: bloomen onion. They were definitely at out back, for sure. 977 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 1: They were sure I picked your Ken's Star always in 978 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: an outback or Swizzler. I don't know, I feel like Chili, 979 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 1: although he's like it's Mark Monday, figure popping, get a 980 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: six dollar mark, and I really think about the ship 981 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: I've done in the uh. I do want to just 982 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 1: stop here and say that the Outback Steakhouse chicken wings 983 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,959 Speaker 1: are good. Okay? Hashtag ada, hashtag ad hashtag we weren't 984 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 1: even paid for a hashtag where's my money? Out back Steakhouse. 985 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: I just want to hear from other people. I just 986 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 1: I felt like this was the perfect time to the 987 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 1: older I get, the crazier it is to me that 988 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,839 Speaker 1: America turned on a twenty two year old girl like 989 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: so fucking young, insane, But that shows you how far 990 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 1: we've come to or like if someone tried to pull 991 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: that kind of ship now, people at least have most 992 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,879 Speaker 1: people have the wherewithal to be like, whoa easy here? 993 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: What are you trying to say? How are you trying 994 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: to spend this on this person? Yeah? Right. I'm glad 995 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: that Clinton comes out of this one looking like a 996 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 1: fucking moron. And I hope no one buys his book. No, 997 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: just watch the clip will happen in the footnotes, because 998 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 1: you'll see him start sweating a little bit. I also 999 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: think that James Patterson, I believe, yes, James Patterson. So 1000 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: he's written like a million books, but my favorite book 1001 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: I so, I was saying, I used to work at 1002 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,760 Speaker 1: a bookstore and he rolled through once for the debut 1003 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 1: of his book, Rogue Lawyer. It's maybe one of the 1004 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: worst books of all time. Literally on the last page 1005 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: it's like, I couldn't be a regular lawyer. I am 1006 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: a rogue lawyer. I'm not like the other rogue lawyers. 1007 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: Larry H. Parker story. I hope he says objection your 1008 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 1: honor before shooting somebody at some point. Oh no, it's 1009 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:42,439 Speaker 1: John Grisham. Never mind Rogue Lawyer anyways, hattag ad Rogue 1010 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: Lawyer came out. That is the John Grisham book that 1011 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: you would write. Like once John Grisham just starts farming 1012 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: it out to a ghostwriter who just knows that. All right, 1013 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: what's the most John Grisham book you can write that 1014 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: John Grisham hasn't written yet. A Rogue Lawyer pulled for 1015 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: a word cloud yet exactly of fuck. In Better News, 1016 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: an FBI agent accidentally shot a gun while doing a 1017 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: back flip on the dance floor at a bar. And 1018 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: it's a great video that everybody should just go out. 1019 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,919 Speaker 1: You got to watch it because yourself. This guy doing 1020 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: a little stinky leg. He's like literally the dance floors 1021 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: like cleared out for him to like just get low 1022 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: with it. He's really you know, he has some honey 1023 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: in his hips. I won't lie. This all happened about 1024 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: on a Saturday night at the Mile High Spirits Distillery 1025 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 1: and Tasting Bar in downtown Denver, and your boy, just 1026 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: after he realized you got everybody's attended, he's doing all 1027 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: his little thought. He moves, he does a back flip 1028 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: and he's a fucking gun comes out and falls on 1029 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 1: the floor and then he goes to pick it up. 1030 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: The gun goes off and it hit it hit a 1031 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 1: man in the leg. So man's gonna be fine, which 1032 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 1: is why it is okay, who knows? I mean again, 1033 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: And wasn't he like, oh my bad, Like the video 1034 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: was like go off and he like puts it back 1035 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: and he just sort of like put his hands in 1036 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 1: like we're good, We're good. Like that backflip was crazy, 1037 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 1: though anyone single here. By the way, one of the 1038 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: most irresponsible movie myths that we ever debunked it correct 1039 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,919 Speaker 1: is the idea that if you drop a gun. It goes, 1040 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 1: it hits the ground, it will go off because the 1041 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 1: way that guns like actually kill people when they fall 1042 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: is if you try to catch it or try and 1043 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 1: pick it up too quick because you're worried it's going 1044 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 1: to go off and hit you actually, and then you 1045 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: pull the trigger. The guns will not land on a trigger, right, yeah, exactly, 1046 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 1: And they're designed specifically not. It's all because of your 1047 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: favorite director, James Cameron in True Lies, Yeah jam Camp, 1048 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: when Jamie Lee Curtis come around with that oozy like 1049 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: room full of people Crimson Ji Hot got bucked up. 1050 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: I think that that that video goes perfectly with what 1051 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 1: we were talking about on Friday, where cops have no game, 1052 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: right exactly. Cut to this like off duty FBI and 1053 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 1: being like, let me do a backflip with a fucking 1054 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 1: gun in my in my waist, like all right, chudder, 1055 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: bob uh. Jamie as always, what a pleasure it's been 1056 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 1: having you and I have the game whether yeah am 1057 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: I right? Where can people find you? You can find 1058 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: me on Twitter dot com at Jamie Lofts Help and 1059 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram at Jamie christ Superstar. I highly recommend both 1060 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: and listen to the Becktel cast every Thursday. Please do. 1061 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: I highly recommend all three of those things. Miles where 1062 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 1: can people fund you? You can find me on Twitter 1063 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 1: and Instagram at Miles up Great, Thank you. You can 1064 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: find me at Jack Underscore O'Brien on Twitter. Can find 1065 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at the Daily 1066 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 1: Zeicheist on Instagram. We have Facebook camp page and a 1067 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: website Daily's at guys dot com where we post our 1068 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: episodes and Darren we link off to the information that 1069 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 1: we talked about today's episode, as well as the song 1070 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 1: that we ride out on My up second It Okay. 1071 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 1: So over the weekend, I was talking to some people 1072 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: when they put me on to this band Home Shake, 1073 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: which I kind of heard about because it's like a 1074 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: solo project of Mac DeMarco's former guitar players Guy Peter 1075 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 1: h So this is a track from home Shake called 1076 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 1: give It to Me and I think you're gonna like it. 1077 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna think you're gonna enjoy it. This 1078 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,439 Speaker 1: still jam coming out of Canada, you know, Scott Scott vibes. 1079 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: It's all right, we're gonna write out on that. We 1080 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast 1081 01:01:34,720 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: Talking Bye hy Bye. A bad bad should keep back 1082 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 1: blood blood b B B B give, Give, Give, Show Blood, Get, 1083 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: Get Time, Goods, Shocking Sea Busy ge Get Get Get 1084 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 1: Mt Guart Guart Guartons, Long Guart, Guarton Gartas alarm, please 1085 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 1: be