1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: All right, News Roundup and Information Overload Hour eight hundred 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: and ninety four one. Shawn is our number if you 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. I could never, 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: for the life of me understand you know why on 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: college campuses. Israel has been under fire for decades now. 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Imagine the United States was taking in tens and tens 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: of thousands of rockets every single year from outside countries 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: and forces. What would you want the US government to do? 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: Would you want them to selectively fight back or you know, 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: start fighting back and then give in to please, to 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: stop the genocide when meanwhile the genocide was perpetrated against US. 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: Nobody's willing to take on extreme radicalized immigration policies, wide 13 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: open borders, especially under Biden, Harris Mayorcus. The same thing 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: has happened for decades now in Western Europe, and they 15 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: deal with their radical Islamic problem there. You have Sharia 16 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: courts in Great Britain, no go zones. In spite of 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, people saying, oh, that's not true, well, we 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 1: actually sent reporters there in the past. 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: It is true. 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: You noticed that, oh, Germany has a problem, Poland has 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: a problem. In Paris, France, they're shutting down their largest 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Christmas New Year's festival because of the rise of radical 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: Islamis violence in Paris, and it's getting worse all around 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: the country. Now, two days after October seventh, let's go 25 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: to Australia where this horrible incident took place. Fifteen people 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: murdered and slaughtered. And what were they saying. There was 27 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: a large crowd in Australia and here were the protesters 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: chanting gas the Jews f the Jews listen. I mean, 29 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't really get any sicker than that. 30 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: Now. 31 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Victoria Teblitsky is the daughter of a wounded shooting victim 32 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: in Australia, you know, says what bib Neatnyahu warned the 33 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Prime Minister albany Is about and said that anti Semitism 34 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: has been allowed to faster. And the government there did nothing, 35 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: And they gave that ridiculous press conference the other night, 36 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: and they're talking about gun control. Remember terrorists, they don't 37 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: follow gun laws anyway. Here's what the daughter of this 38 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: wounded victim says. 39 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: This was not a surprise to the Jewish community. We 40 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: warned the government of this many many times over. We've 41 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: had synagogues that have been graffiti, graffiti everywhere, and we've 42 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: had synagogues that have been bombed. This is not a 43 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: surprise to us. It's not the fact that those two 44 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: people had a gun. It's the fact that those two 45 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: people have been taught to hate and it's the fact 46 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: that hatred has been allowed to fester against the Jewish 47 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 3: minority in Australia. 48 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: Hight joining us now our friend Miranda Divine, one of 49 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: the best calmness in the country for the New York Post. 50 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: He has a podcast Podforce One is what it's called, Miranda, 51 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. I think you 52 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: know a thing or two about Australia and you know 53 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: what can you tell us? If I remember right, it 54 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: was wasn't a Prime Minister Howard that said if you're 55 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: going to go to Australia, you're going to assimilate and 56 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: become an Australian And it was considered controversial at the time. 57 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: And since that time, you know, Australia has gotten very 58 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: relaxed with their immigration laws. 59 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong. 60 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: And they have allowed people to come into their country 61 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: even with radicalized views, and they have tolerated you know 62 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: this virulent anti Semitism that has been obvious and on 63 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: the rise for some time. 64 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: But tell me if I'm wrong. 65 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: No, you're absolutely right, Sean, And Merry Christmas to you 66 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: and Happy New Year to you and all your listeners. 67 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: Yees. 68 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: Australia has been you know, it's an immigrant country like America, 69 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: but it's just prided itself on tolerance and so on, 70 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 4: which worked fine until you had these radical Islamis pouring 71 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: in during the Syrian crisis. And we're now, you know, 72 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: ten years on and Isis. There were a whole lot 73 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 4: of Isis officionados who went off to Syria to fight 74 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: young men from the Muslim community which is concentrated in 75 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: some suburbs in southwest Sydney where these gunmen came from, 76 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: and Jeehardi brides and the rest of it. And there's 77 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: just been a blind eye for the past two years, 78 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 4: actually the past ten years has been a blo I 79 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 4: to this really radical rhetoric about wanting Sharia law around 80 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 4: the country, about wanting you know, saying that women who 81 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: uncover themselves don't wear the hijjah, basically asking to be 82 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 4: raped and so on. And there were a bunch of 83 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: gang rapes back twenty years ago, but they were nipped 84 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: in the bud by strong prosecutor strong judge at the time. 85 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: But since then the will has gone out of Australia 86 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: because there was so many attacks on those of us 87 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: who wrote about it. Those brave prosecutors and judges were pilloried, 88 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: called Islamophobic, racist and so on, and that's been used 89 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 4: to silence people and cow them into submission. And then 90 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: since October seven, twenty twenty three, there's just been unchecked 91 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 4: anti semitism, and really anti Semitism is just due hatred, 92 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: and it's been driven by this cohort of now you know, 93 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 4: first generation, sometimes second generation radicalized Muslims. For many years 94 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: Muslims lived in Australia quite you know, happily checked by jow. 95 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: But now since the radicalization, the rise of ISIS nine 96 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: to eleven, et cetera, there's a new sort of mode 97 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: that's crept in that is really disturbing and very very 98 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 4: sort of in your face. In fact, one of these gunmen, 99 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: one of these terrorists from this Bondai massacre, has now 100 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: been found in a video waving the ISIS flag during 101 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 4: that march across the Harbor Bridge where tens of thousands 102 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: of people sort of you know, protested against Israel, pro Palestine, 103 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: pro Hamas really and this guy was waving an ISIS flag. 104 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 4: He was on the radar of australia equivalent of the CIA, 105 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: which is called Asio for his ISIS affiliations, and there 106 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 4: were ISIS flags in the car that he and his 107 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: father drove to Bondi, an hour from those southwest suburbs 108 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: that are a hotbed of radical emams, radical mosques. And honestly, 109 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: for as long as I was working in Sydney, those 110 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: imams have been pumping out a steady stream of poison 111 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: and you know, it falls on fertile ground. It might 112 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: only be a handful of people that actually take action, 113 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: but the attitude towards the Australian way of life is 114 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: really rancid. And you know, Australia's for instance, has topless 115 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: bathing on beaches like Bondai, and periodically there are sort 116 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: of young Muslim men that come in from the Southwest 117 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: and harass those women and basically treat them as if 118 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: they're prostitutes. And so it's the it's really been a 119 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: clash there underground. And now on that terrible night in 120 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: Bondai Beach. It just all came to a head. 121 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: It's so sad, it's so preventable, it's so tragic. I've 122 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: been quoting you all week in the piece that you 123 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: wrote in the New York Post about this. I was curious. 124 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: I know how well known you are in this country, 125 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: because you've been on TV quite a bit and you 126 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: have your own podcast now, and you're obviously one of 127 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: the best writers in the country, uh calmnists in the country. 128 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: You're well known in Australia also, aren't you. Yes, yeah, okay, 129 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: So what is the reaction to you calling out, you know, 130 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: this government for being so the you know, tone deaf 131 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: about what was happening. 132 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 4: Oh well, you know I'm called a jew, jew, lava, Zionist, 133 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: et cetera. You know. I mean, it's just the usual. 134 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: So we're all called the same thing. 135 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: I love that because you believe you stand up against 136 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: radical Islamis. I believe in convert or die and believe 137 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: that people should have the right to freedom and self determination. 138 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: And that's their intellectual response. 139 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: Pretty lame, yeah it is, but it's just so typical. 140 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: I mean, Australia is even more difficult to put forward 141 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: the conservative case for anything, or I call it the 142 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 4: common sense case for anything, because there's a real left 143 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 4: wing bias in the media and a lot of the 144 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: loudest voices, particularly at the Australian publicly funded broadcast, which 145 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 4: is a real bear mass. It just overtakes every other media. 146 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: It's bigger than any other media organization, a billion dollars 147 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: a year funded by the government. It would be like 148 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 4: NPR and PBS on steroids being the biggest media outlet 149 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 4: in the country. Can you imagine that. So that's what 150 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: happens in Australia, and unfortunately that sets the tone for 151 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 4: just you know, a lot of it is just soft liberal. 152 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: There's a lot of pieces have been written, you know, saying. 153 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 5: Oh, we're all. 154 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: Australians and you know it's really biggoty to call out Islam. 155 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 4: This is about guns and the unfortunately very left wing 156 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: government federally and also in the State, they've gone straight 157 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: to gun control. The Prime Minister has talked about some 158 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: you know ridiculously like right wing extremists are just as bad. 159 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: It was the same situation when after two years of 160 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: unrelenting Jew hatred, you know, sabotage torturing of Israeli Jewish 161 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: businesses and synagogues, et cetera, graffiti, horrible graffiti, globalizing into 162 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: far de signs everywhere, and finally the Prime Minister was 163 00:10:54,600 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: sort of shamed into appointing an envoy for anti Semitism, 164 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: but at the same time he appointed an envoy through Islamophobia, 165 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 4: which wasn't the problem. It's completely not there. It's a 166 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 4: made up phenomenon. The real phenomenon was due hatred. And 167 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: it's only today that I'm seeing on x there are 168 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: now images of globalize the Intervada signs that were ubiquitous 169 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: around Sidney, particularly around Bondai Beach, and they're being painted 170 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: over today like a little late, as if they didn't 171 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: know what globalized the Interofata means. We saw exactly what 172 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: it meant on the well. 173 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: I mean, look at where you're talking about. You're describing 174 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: what New York is about to become, and I know 175 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: that's your home base, and that's not good. 176 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: It is. 177 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: It is really chilling. When you know, there's a line 178 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: in a song Michael W. Smith Rowe when evil calls 179 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: itself a martyr. When people you know say they were 180 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: on a wipe Israel off the map, or it's in 181 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: their charter, like Hamas has it in their charter. People 182 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: don't ever want to report that, but it's in there. 183 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: And the Palestinian people voted for that, and October seventh happened, 184 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: or when Iran chanced death to Israel, death to America 185 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump says, no, you're not allowed to have 186 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. And there were people that even say their MAGA, 187 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: that didn't want Donald Trump to take out those nuclear sites. 188 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: Could you imagine if he didn't, we have about thirty seconds. 189 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: Oh god, I mean, that's such a great line. When 190 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 4: evil becomes a victim is at the. 191 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: Fun when evil calls itself a martyr, calls. 192 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: Itself a martyr. Wow, that's so good. Yeah. Look, Mamdani 193 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: has just attacked a controversial lawyer who defended al Qaed 194 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: and al Qaeda terror wether, a radical anti Israel campus 195 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 4: leader to be at city hall. I mean, he is 196 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: surrounding himself with the absolute worst of the worst Islamists. 197 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: And you cannot tell me that that is an answer 198 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: to the same ranced anti Semitism that has shown its 199 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: ugly head in New York since October seven. And it 200 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: all started on October seven. It didn't start after the 201 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 4: war in Gaza in Sydney outside the Sydney Opera House 202 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 4: when people gathered for a vigil, and day after October 203 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 4: seven happened in Israel, that massacre, the candlelit vigial, the 204 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: mourners there were invaded by a group of Jew haters 205 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: calling out, as you just showed us gas the Jews, 206 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: cure the Jews, you know, es the Jews, and globalize 207 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: the into fata. 208 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: So unbelievable. You know, I appreciate the fact that you 209 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: call this out. There's far too few of us, unfortunately, 210 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: that have the moral clarity to understand evil for orders, 211 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: and the level of ignorance of some people is breathtaking, 212 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: it really, And even people that claim to be on 213 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: our side usually they're you know, they're convenient Trump supporters, 214 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: convenient Maga people. You know, they're in and out, they vacillate, 215 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: their up and down and they just I don't know, 216 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: there's some bizarre thinking going on out there. But we 217 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: need people like you that have the moral clarity and 218 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: understanding of the error and the time that we live in. 219 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: Miranda. Appreciate you, Thank. 220 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: You, Thanks Sean, Happy Merry. 221 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: Christmas, have a great holiday. Uh eight hundred nine four 222 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: one sean if you want to be a part of 223 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: the program. There's been a lot of discussion. We've seen 224 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the videos narco terrorists coming out of 225 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: Venezuela and Meduro's regime. I am arguing there on their 226 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: last legs, there's no way Maduro's going to survive, especially 227 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: after what Donald Trump did yesterday, and that is order 228 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: a total blockade of oil tankers entering or leaving Venezuela. Now, 229 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: what they've been doing is they have these these unmarked vehicles, 230 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: in other words, they they're not labeled as tankers, and 231 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: they're sending you oil to Cuba, oil to China, oil 232 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: to Iran and all these other countries. 233 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: Believe it or not. 234 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: On Rand needs to import oil, which is insane, and 235 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: it's not the best oil anyway. I mean, it needs 236 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: more refining than most other oil, but putting out aside. 237 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: But now the president has taken it a step further 238 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: and he has declared the Venezuelan regime a foreign terrorist 239 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: organization and ordered this oil tanker blockade. So I would 240 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: imagine we're probably at some point he's not going to 241 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: be able to make it or survive. And Maria Corina 242 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Machado is remember she got the Nobel Peace Prize. And 243 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: when she got the Nobel Peace Prize impressively she said, well, 244 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: I really don't deserve it. Donald Trump deserves it. I 245 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: mean there are like eight regions around the globe where 246 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: he brought peace to. Anyway, she is the leader of 247 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: Venezuela's democratic opposition, the strongest voice against the Maduro dictatorleadership. Sadly, 248 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean, her life is in jeopardy every single solitary day. 249 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: She is a woman of great courage and conviction, a 250 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: former National Assembly member, founder of the Vente Venezuelan movement. 251 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: She believes in free markets and the rule of law 252 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: and capitalism. Anyway, Maria, welcome to the program. Thank you 253 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: for being with us. 254 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 5: Well, thank you, Sean. This is such a great pleasure 255 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 5: and very grateful to have the chance to share with 256 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 5: you what's happening in Venezuela. Our gratitude to President Trump 257 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 5: and to the American people, and my absolute confidence that 258 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 5: Venezuela will turn from the criminal hob of the narcot 259 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 5: terrorist networks of the world. In the heart of the 260 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 5: Americas into the energy hob of our hemisphere and the 261 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 5: strongest ally the US will have in the region. And 262 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 5: that's going to happen soon we have a cohesive united society. 263 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 5: Venezuela is. You know, it's good people, freedom, loving, hard 264 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 5: work in some really loving people that we have been 265 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 5: oppressed by this socialist criminal regime for twenty seven years 266 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 5: and finally we are at the thirshold of freedom. 267 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: Well, I've got to tell you, God bless you and 268 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: what you're doing. I don't think people really understand the 269 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: risk that you're and the harms way you put yourself 270 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: in for this. You're a woman of great courage. Here's 271 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: the saddest part to me, Maria Venezuela has so much 272 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: in terms of wealth and natural resource potential. And I'll 273 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: never forget Jorge Ramos, who I don't always agree with, 274 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: but he did a very good piece. I think it 275 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: was with Univision at the time, and he was in 276 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: Venezuela and he actually showed people in what should be 277 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: one of the wealthiest countries in the world eating out 278 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: of like garbage hands. And I offer a garbage truck 279 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking this is such a shame because the 280 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: people are put in poverty because of corrupt government. We 281 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: see the same thing in Cuba, the same thing in 282 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: many other countries in Latin America and around the world. 283 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: And it's just sad because I feel sorry for the 284 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: people that you know, rank and file every day Venezuelans 285 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: that are suffering needlessly. And you can't convince me that 286 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: Maduro had an honest election the last time. There's no 287 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: way he didn't steal that. 288 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 5: But well, everybody knows that we won by a landslide 289 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 5: and he was humiliated. But you know what the satisfart 290 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 5: of all Shani is, it's intentional. They need to have 291 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 5: a society in living in mystery so they can stay 292 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 5: in power by force, and that's precisely what they did. 293 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 5: Can you imagine what the pensions are right now in Venezuela. 294 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: It's less than one dollar a month. The teacher teacher 295 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 5: earns one dollar a day, so children can only go 296 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 5: twice a week to public schools because children that teachers 297 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 5: need to get money from, you know, other activities. So 298 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 5: this is a tragedy, and that's why they have forced 299 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 5: migration to a third of our population. Imagine what you 300 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 5: know the tragedy. Every single family in our country has 301 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 5: been divided because parents have had to leave and little 302 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 5: children behind just to send them some food back home. 303 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 5: So you see children alone in their very humble houses 304 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 5: and their grandparents taking care of them, grandparents that are 305 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 5: absolutely sick because there are no hospitals and no medicine. 306 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 5: And as you said, this was the richest wealthy country 307 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 5: in the region. I mean, we have the largest oil 308 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 5: resources and reserves in the world. But God has one name. 309 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 5: This is socialism. When you put these criminals in power, 310 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 5: they won't live. They won't live. Forget about elections. We 311 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 5: want that by landslide. But they want to stay. Why 312 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 5: because they need to destabilize the region. And they have 313 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 5: turned Venezuela into the state heaven of all the enemies 314 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 5: of the Western democracies, especially the United States. We have 315 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 5: the Uranians freely operating in our country. They turned Venezuela 316 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 5: into satellite of Terehran, only three hours away from Florida. 317 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 5: You have the Russians, you have Hezbola, you have the 318 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: drug hotels, the Columbia Gorilla, all aligned in partnership with 319 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 5: the regime. The head of the of this criminal structure 320 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 5: narco terrorist structure is Nicolas Maludo and you know they 321 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 5: formed the trend Rawa, they created Cat del Solis to 322 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 5: destabilize the region and the United States. They declared a 323 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 5: war on the Venezuelan people, and they have declared a 324 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 5: war on the Western democracies. Now President Trump is finally 325 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 5: ending this war. It is about saving knives and that's 326 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 5: why we and you know, the whole Basan population totally 327 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 5: support and we are very grateful for his mission, his 328 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 5: courage and his friend. 329 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: Do you think but Duro can survive long? Now? 330 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: I've had sources and there's a lot of rumors out 331 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: there that he may go to places like Iran or Russia. 332 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: Have you heard similar rumors? And how long do you 333 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: think his regime will survive? 334 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 5: Well, John, if these were a conventional dictatorship, this would 335 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 5: have fallen a long time ago. You know, the Venzona people, 336 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 5: we have done everything. We've protested, we voted, you know, 337 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 5: which we organize underground, We've done everything. But it is 338 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 5: a criminal structure. And certainly these regimes that you've mentioned, Iran, Russia, Cuba, 339 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 5: they are supporting Madudo because it's an audience to the 340 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 5: United States. It's it's the way they have, as I said, 341 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 5: a front beach in the middle, in the middle of 342 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 5: the hemisphere. But certainly Madudo is now weaker than ever, 343 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 5: and finally they are understanding that this is serious, that 344 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 5: they're you know, theys are counted. So I do believe 345 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 5: that if Madruo understands that he has no way out, 346 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 5: his best option is to accept one of these you know, 347 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 5: offers to go somewhere else. But at the end, you know, 348 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 5: when you have ninety percent of a population that already mandated, 349 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 5: and I want to insist on this, Sean, because I've 350 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 5: heard some people talking about, you know, regime change. This 351 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 5: is not regime change. It is not you know, an 352 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 5: elected legitimate president that it's being changed. No, the people 353 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 5: of Venezuela elected a Mundo on siles Orudia with seventy 354 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 5: percent of the votes, and they are staying by force, 355 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 5: you know, with repression. We have almost one thousand political prisoners, 356 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 5: including teenagers that are being portraed, sexually assaulted women. You know, relatives, parents, grandpriarents, 357 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 5: grandchildren are being detained and disappeared if they don't find 358 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 5: the relatives they're looking for. This is, as I said, 359 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 5: state terrorism only three hours away from the United States. 360 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 5: So I do believe this is a unique moment. And 361 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 5: once my Dudo goes, imagine what this will mean. Of 362 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 5: course for the Venezuelan people. Of course for my country 363 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 5: because we will see millions of migrants coming back as 364 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 5: soon as Maduda goes, but also for all the countries 365 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 5: in the Americas. We will turn this criminal HB, this 366 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 5: threat to the national security of the United States into 367 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: a security show. 368 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: Well, let me let me ask you, because you had 369 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: to flee your country because you would have been assassinated, 370 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: You would have been killed. Anybody with a brain understands that. 371 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: And if Meduro goes, you would obviously be the most 372 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: logical and first choice, I believe of the Venezuelan people. 373 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: But I worry for you because there are always going 374 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: to be these Maduro holdovers that would want to fill 375 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: his shoes. I mean, you know that when that moment comes, 376 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: you're going to have to be very careful and we'll 377 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: all be praying for you, and God bless you for 378 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: having the courage that you have. 379 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 5: Look, Sean, I trust my people. That's why where we 380 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 5: are right now. People told us it was impossible to 381 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 5: carry out a primary and I won with over ninety 382 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: percent of the votes. Then they banned me from running 383 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 5: for president, and we found an alternate candidate and we 384 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 5: managed to win again. And then they said it was 385 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 5: impossible to prove the results and the whole world so 386 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 5: the actual original tallyships the demonstrated arbitrary. Once again, they 387 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 5: say it's going to be very complicated. You know that, 388 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 5: you know violence might come and groups will oppose each other. Look, Sean, 389 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 5: believe me. Nason people have fought so hard to finally 390 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 5: live in freedom with dignity, to have our children back home. 391 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 5: The Anason people are going to take care that this 392 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 5: transition is orderly and peaceful. 393 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: And yes, I do believe that God created every human 394 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: being to be free, and I do support your quest 395 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: for freedom, and I wish that for the Venezuelan people 396 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: and people in tyranny all over the world. Again, as 397 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: I point out, you have such enormous courage, let me 398 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: ask you this question. You got the great honor of 399 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: getting the Nobel Peace Prize, and when you accepted it, 400 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: he said it really should go to Donald Trump. I 401 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever heard I can't recall ever hearing 402 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: anyone accept an award like that and say, really, I'm 403 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: not the right person. 404 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: You picked the wrong person. Why did you do that? 405 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 5: Because it's fair, because it's the truth. What we've done 406 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 5: is fight for truth, even if it's hard sometimes and painful, 407 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 5: but this is the truth, and we have Benison. People 408 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 5: are very grateful for what President Trump is doing for years. 409 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: Maria Carino Machado, you are a very very courageous and 410 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: brave woman. I wish you God's blessings this holiday season 411 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: and at all times, and may you guide the people 412 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: of Venezuela back into the civilized world and out of 413 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: poverty and tyranny. It's really an honor to have you 414 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: on the program. We do appreciate your time, and Merry 415 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 1: Christmas to you and your family. 416 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 5: Thank you, and God bless us all. 417 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, I bless you. Yes, ma'am. Eight one, Shawn. 418 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: We'll continue. 419 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: Making America first, safe, and great again. This is the 420 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. All right, that's gonna wrap things up 421 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: for today. From the Swamp Hannity. Tonight, Donald Trump addressing 422 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: the nation. The best is yet to come nine pm Eastern. 423 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: We'll carry his speech and we will have reaction immediately 424 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: there after. We have among our guests Senator Katie Britt, 425 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: We have John Barrasso, we have Lindsay Graham, and all 426 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: the other news of the day, all coming up tonight. 427 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: Set your DVR. President Trump addresses the nation. I'm Eastern tonight. 428 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: We'll carry it on, Hannity. That's it for us. Thank 429 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: you for being with us, and we'll see you tonight 430 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: and back here tomorrow. Thank you for making the show possible.