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Speaker 1: Hi, friends, It's Jennifer Fessler and Jackie Colchnight.

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Speaker 2: And we are too Jersey Jays. How's everyone doing? How

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Speaker 2: are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. A bit of a crazy sad week.

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Speaker 1: I had a friend who passed. Oh I'm sorry, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. So yeah, that was really hard, but

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Speaker 1: sorrow was for another episode, although actually not really because

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Speaker 1: we're talking about social media.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, plenty of sorrow from social media. It's an interesting

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Speaker 2: week too. Something that I didn't put on social media.

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Speaker 2: I had to have a liver by Epcy this week.

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Speaker 2: That was not fun. That was not fun. I did

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Speaker 2: not put that on social media. And that leads us

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Speaker 2: right in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, because we're talking about well, in my humble opinion,

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking about my own social media, my social

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Speaker 1: media is a lie.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not really a lie. You do have genuinely

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Speaker 2: good times and a lot of friends.

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Speaker 1: However, social media is not real, and again it may

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Speaker 1: be for some. I'm talking about from my perspective and

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Speaker 1: my own social media. That's not to say that I

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Speaker 1: don't post from my actual real life, but what I

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Speaker 1: represent on social media, I think that it comes off

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Speaker 1: as I maybe even try to make it come off

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Speaker 1: as my entire life, and it really is just a snapshot,

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Speaker 1: a snap not only a snapshot happy stuff.

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Speaker 2: Of course it is. And that's the whole point of today,

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Speaker 2: is that, you know, we talk a lot about the

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Speaker 2: effects of social media on young people, right, but we

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Speaker 2: don't talk about the effects of social media on middle aged.

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Speaker 1: People, right, particularly middle aged women, but actually no middle

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Speaker 1: aged people, right. But it really does have an effect.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how much time have you lost to deep

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Speaker 1: diving on someone else's life on social media? Well, how

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Speaker 1: about before that, how much time have I lost pretending

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Speaker 1: about my own life on social media? So let me

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Speaker 1: tell you. I'll tell you a story. So a few

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Speaker 1: months back, the four of us, my family, we went

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Speaker 1: to Mexico for a fabulous vacation, a week long vacation.

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Speaker 1: It was at the most beautiful resort, and we were

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Speaker 1: obviously all psyched. I spent so much of this vacation posing.

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Speaker 1: I spent so much of it taking the perfect pictures.

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Speaker 1: I spent so much of it with my phone glued

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Speaker 1: to my face. I spent so many dinners where we

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Speaker 1: were all on our phones. And then one of us

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Speaker 1: would have the sense to say, guys, let's put our

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Speaker 1: phones down, And so we would and we would have

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Speaker 1: the appetizer, and then we would check our phones again,

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Speaker 1: and then Mommy would get up and say, guys, I

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Speaker 1: need to take a picture of Rachel you eating the crembrulet,

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Speaker 1: and let's take a video of me dancing into the restaurant.

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Speaker 1: So let me just say that all of that happened,

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Speaker 1: it was all fun. What I didn't show on social

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Speaker 1: media is us arguing at the dinner table, even though

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Speaker 1: it was a perfect vacation. What I didn't show on

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Speaker 1: social media is me pitching a fit because no one

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Speaker 1: wanted to sit in the shade and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: sit in the sun. Or to my son, I don't

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Speaker 1: like what you're wearing. Mom, I'm twenty three years old.

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Speaker 1: I don't give two shits if you like what I'm wearing.

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Speaker 1: You know all of that that goes along with it.

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Speaker 1: I don't air that you don't see that. Let me

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Speaker 1: assure you that as wonderful as the vacation was, they

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Speaker 1: were parts of it that were not so wonderful. And

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Speaker 1: so it's it's just for me.

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Speaker 2: It's not real.

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Speaker 1: I think that I would love to blame it on

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Speaker 1: the fact that I'm now a public figure or whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to say, I'm not that jack Hint. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm a star, but anyway, I'm not Jackie Goldschneider. I'm not.

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Speaker 1: But what it doesn't matter that pressure of showing my

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Speaker 1: life off and I think making it seem aspirational. I'm

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Speaker 1: following the lead of other and most I think celebrities right,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, I think that you can be real

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Speaker 1: on social media. I think that you can talk about

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Speaker 1: your issues on social media. But what I see, for

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Speaker 1: the most part, specifically from celebrities, also from friends and acquaintances,

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Speaker 1: I see a lot of perfect lives. So I'm here

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that as middle aged women, it's particularly

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what social media does. It makes us, right,

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Speaker 2: but compare our lives to other people, like we could

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Speaker 2: look at other people who are in the same age group,

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Speaker 2: and we say, have I accomplished as much as they

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Speaker 2: have accomplished? Is my life as good? Do I go on?

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Speaker 2: As many vacations do I have as many friends? Are

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Speaker 2: my children as happy? And really it's really causing alarming

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Speaker 2: levels of depression. I mean, there's a lot of studies

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Speaker 2: women who are just adults, US adults who use photo

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Speaker 1: You know, did you see recently there was at Mark

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Speaker 1: Zuckerberg and who else was there? There was a hearing

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Speaker 1: to their kids who had done harmful things to themselves

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Speaker 1: as a result of depression that they incurred from social media.

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Speaker 1: So we're all so concerned about kids and the effects, right,

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Speaker 1: And I'm here to tell you and I think Jackie,

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Speaker 1: you are too. It has its effects on me.

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Speaker 2: It has.

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Speaker 1: Not such great effects on me. So let me also

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Speaker 1: caveat all of this with saying that I'm not going

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Speaker 1: off social media today. I am addicted to social media.

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Speaker 1: So I think maybe the first step is recognizing that

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Speaker 1: I have a problem, right, which I absolutely do.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to go through all the ways to

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Speaker 2: kind of disconnect later, but like, how many times have

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Speaker 2: you seen, for example, a couple that announces they're getting

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Speaker 2: divorced and you're like, wait, what, your marriage is so perfect?

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Speaker 1: You just wrote on his birthday post Happy Birthday to

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Speaker 1: the love of my life. There is no me without you,

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Speaker 1: the perfect father, the perfect husband, my rock, right yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, wait, I don't understand because everything was

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Speaker 2: like that's just emblematic of like so many things that

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Speaker 2: I see so many times that even you jen like,

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Speaker 2: I'll see you go to something and I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 2: and then you'll be like it was okay, Well, you

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Speaker 2: know it's tired.

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Speaker 1: I think, right, well, I'm always tired and I'd always

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Speaker 1: rather be home. Well, first of me say that my

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Speaker 1: friends that are you know, outside of the housewives and

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Speaker 1: outside of the whole, you know, public arena, They're like, Jen,

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Speaker 1: you are so busy. You are on the go, because

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Speaker 1: what do they see. They see me going out for

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Speaker 1: the night to whatever social event with other people that

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Speaker 1: are also public figures. And then they see my next post,

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Speaker 1: which is me going out with someone that they may

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Speaker 1: know to a charity event, and then there's more me

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Speaker 1: and I'm at you know, I'm shopping for fabulous things.

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Speaker 1: So all of that is giving off this message that

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Speaker 2: Like I had a friend say to me, she was like,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to see if you wanted to go out

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Speaker 2: for drinks, but you're always every time I look at

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Speaker 2: to myself, wow, because most nights I'm on my couch

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Speaker 1: Well, and in my bed eating usually it's popcorn and

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Speaker 2: But anyway, anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the perception that I think I give

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Speaker 1: the first step is recognizing that you have a problem.

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Speaker 1: So I'm here to tell you friends, that is not

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Speaker 1: what my life looks like. And I think that it

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Speaker 1: pours over not just into you know, seeing adults going

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Speaker 1: and you know, having the perfect marriage. It even I

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Speaker 1: not saying that, you know that you shouldn't be able

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Speaker 1: to share fabulous things about your kids, but sometimes the

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Speaker 1: my kid made Honor Roll this year, and congratulations to

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud all of that is.

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Speaker 1: It's fabulous news, right, and you want the people that

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Speaker 1: know you wouldn't either, But this whole game of you know,

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Speaker 1: skip right over that part. You know, there's a million

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Speaker 1: things that go on with your kids, with your husband,

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Speaker 2: Right. I mean evident I don't fight a lot, but

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Speaker 2: when we do have a fight, I'm certainly not putting

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Speaker 2: that shit on social media. Absolutely not right. Also, I think,

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Speaker 2: aside from people faking their social lives, marriages, and children,

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Speaker 2: like how perfect it is. The face tuning is out

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Speaker 2: of control. Oh my god, it's out of control. I

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Speaker 2: mean Chloe Kardashian last week face tuned her cat. Did

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Speaker 2: you see that?

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Speaker 4: She face tuned her fucking cat. The whiskers came off.

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Speaker 4: My cats are so ugly. There's not enough face tune

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Speaker 4: face tune actually comments on people's I never saw that.

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Speaker 4: Oh we're telling me about that, yeah.

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Speaker 2: But she I mean like people don't even look the

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Speaker 2: way that they're that they're portrayed. I mean, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not talking a tweak, because we all tweak. I don't, yes, no,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I sweak. If I send to.

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Speaker 1: My PR people and they want to post something, they

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Speaker 1: look at it sometimes and they're like, whoa tweak this?

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Speaker 2: Hang on, let's bring them in.

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Speaker 1: Oh hi, hi girl, Hi guy.

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Speaker 2: Guys. This is such an honor and such a pleasure.

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00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: Oh my god, They're so honored and we're so excited

438
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: to chat with you. Guys. We miss you.

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00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: We miss you too. And guess what, we're going to

440
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: turn the tables.

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Speaker 2: I gonna flip any tables, but we are turning them. Yeah,

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00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: we've got some questions, are you guys?

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00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: Wait?

444
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: So can we start by telling us exactly what you

445
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: guys do?

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00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 3: Okay? So Danny and I are the hosts of Virtual

447
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: Reality A podcasts at page six. It's all Housewives, all Bravo,

448
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 3: all reality TV, all the time. And then I'm also

449
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 3: a senior TV reporter and Danny is a senior social

450
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: media editor. I got that right correct, Yes.

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00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've senior editors.

452
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 6: So I oversee a lot of the page six Social

453
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 6: strategy and everything over there are going on across all

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Speaker 6: the platforms, So we like to keep a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Busy over here.

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Speaker 1: You guys, I know that anybody listening if you follow

457
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: you know any hot topics or pop culture. You know

458
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: these guys anyway, they really don't need an introduction because

459
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: they're everywhere. They're on every at carpets, there on every

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00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: Internet page.

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00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: They are.

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00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 1: It just they are sort of like the heart and

463
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: soul of talking to well for us Bravo celebrities, but

464
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: more than that.

465
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the reality shows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you guys, we want to ask you some questions.

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00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: We'd like some insight. It can't be easy to do

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Speaker 1: what you do. So first of all, before you started

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Speaker 1: working with Page six, were you guys big into pop culture?

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00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: Were you following social media gossip columns? Was that something

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Speaker 1: that you were passionate about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: For me, growing up, I feel like the time I

474
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Speaker 6: was just like going like growing up high school, college.

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Speaker 6: It's where like internet and blogs are really like just booming,

476
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 6: and they were kind of like a fun new way

477
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 6: to be engaged with what you.

478
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 5: Like to watch on TV or the interests you have.

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00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 6: Because when the internet's great, it's like you can have

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00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 6: common interests with people that you don't see every day,

481
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 6: but you can like start to build relationships that way.

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Speaker 6: So it's like really fun where you start to find

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Speaker 6: like little like fangroups and stuff like that. Of course

484
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 6: we now know sometimes those can get they have pluses

485
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 6: and minuses, But I feel I just really gravitate to

486
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 6: being such an online person who loved just like keep

487
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 6: up with everything and just really always like to like

488
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 6: learn more and know more about pop culture because for

489
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Speaker 6: a while it wasn't really seen as like a very

490
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Speaker 6: legitimate thing to want to like focus in or talk about.

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Speaker 6: But it kind of has changed into being more of that,

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Speaker 6: which has been great.

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Speaker 1: You guys are younger, that's certainly to me, the three

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Speaker 1: of you. But we used to call it water cooler talk.

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00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: That's when people actually went into the office. Now everybody's virtual,

496
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: but it meant that, like Monday morning, everybody would gather

497
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: around the water cooler and talk about either it was

498
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: some show or it was, you know, the latest gossip.

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00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: But nobody needs a water cooler anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Evan. How about you?

501
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: So I'm a little bit older than Danny, and I

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00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: feel like those extra three years kind of made a

503
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: difference because I became interested in pop culture and entertainment news,

504
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: like like when my mom was like still picking up

505
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: like in touch and people in the grocery store and

506
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: like my whole thing, like my my number one pride

507
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: and passion is Britney Spears. So I was very much

508
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: into the whole like two thousand and seven, Britney Paris

509
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: Lindsay tmz X seventeen, like that whole thing, and I

510
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: was like, that is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna

511
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: do celebrity news and I'm going to talk about Brittany

512
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: all day every day, which I do in my free time.

513
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: But when I started interning at Okay magazine like ages ago,

514
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: I get there and I start and they're like, hey,

515
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: can you like just like do some research about teen

516
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: Mom And I'm like, teen mom, teen mom.

517
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: Like girl by I was like, this is how bitch. Yeah.

518
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: I was like, this is not what I signed up for.

519
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: Cut too. I became like a massive obsessive teen Mom fan.

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00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: And I had been into the Real Housewives when it

521
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: first came out in like two thousand and six, so

522
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: then it was weird they like they loved teen Moms,

523
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: like the cover for like twelve covers in a row

524
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: when I first started, and then I remember our first

525
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: Housewives cover was like a Kyle and Kim cover and

526
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 3: then that did really well for Okay magazine, and then

527
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: all the weekly is started to cover the housewives at nauseum,

528
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: which I was all about. I was like, finally you

529
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: guys have tapped into real houses. And then the internet

530
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: became a thing when as Danny was born. Yeah, when

531
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Speaker 3: showing off, It's been really cool to see how just

532
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: the franchise and the Bravo world has exploded on that.

533
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Speaker 3: You know, now these like pop culture Instagram pages are

534
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: They're like legit news outlets. I'm like, oh my god, yeah,

535
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: cocktails have it? I better look into it, right.

536
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Speaker 5: Crazy Bravos on the Pulse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, day, do you ever struggle with an assignment? You

538
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: guys have a job to do. I mean, this is

539
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Speaker 1: what pays the rant or the more or get you

540
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: whatever it is. So you have a job to do.

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Speaker 1: And I'm assuming you both have bosses and people to

542
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: answer to. So do you ever cringe.

543
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: And you know or feel bad? I don't want to

544
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: do that. I don't want to ask them that.

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00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 6: It's funny when you say like bosses because I feel

546
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 6: so many times and you guys probably now know this

547
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 6: from doing your own podcast and just being public figures

548
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 6: yourself whenever you post me like I feel so many times,

549
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 6: the bosses are the listeners and the audience and the viewers.

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00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: A lot of that's interesting. Yeah, that's interesting.

551
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 6: I just had a I don't know, Lindsey Hubbard from Summerhouse.

552
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 6: I was just chatting with her, and of course she

553
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 6: had a very public engagement to disengagement, a lot of

554
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 6: stuff that she's been saying, her ex Carl has been saying,

555
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 6: and just people have been saying about it. And she

556
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 6: was coming in because the new season of Summerhouse is

557
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 6: coming out, She's obviously obligated to promote that season, and

558
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 6: we're like having a fun chat about, you know, like

559
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 6: how she's been and everything like that. But then I'm like,

560
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 6: I know, and because I'm curious how she's doing. But

561
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 6: also I know that if anybody watches or listens to this,

562
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 6: and like I don't bring up that she separated, they'd

563
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 6: be like, well, what are you even doing here? Why

564
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 6: are you wasting our time? Because they're curious about that

565
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 6: because it is like a major thing that's going on.

566
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Speaker 6: And then what I like about it too is that

567
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 6: it gives I know, Lindsay sitting with me, I want

568
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 6: her to be able to say whatever she wants to

569
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Speaker 6: say her piece, Like if I can pick up if

570
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 6: she's like I'm doing well, she don't want to talk

571
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 6: about I'm not going to.

572
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 5: Be like, well, what does well mean?

573
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Speaker 6: It's like I like to follow the vibe, but I

574
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 6: want to make sure I at least try to do

575
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Speaker 6: my part to give her a chance to or anybody

576
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Speaker 6: a chance to talk about what they want to talk about,

577
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 6: while also giving the people.

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Speaker 1: You guys are so good at that. Yeah, like Kelly

579
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: Roland recently, like she is, she did not want to

580
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: talk about Beyonce on the Today Show, right, and whatever

581
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: happened after that? But I get that, right, it's like

582
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: my own stuff to talk about.

583
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: Well, but you have to ask so for you, its like,

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Speaker 2: have you ever done a story or interviewed somebody and

585
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: the reaction was really negative to that person? Have you

586
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: ever like does that affect you? Do you feel bad?

587
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: That is a really good question because it does affect me.

588
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: Like I am paying attention to the reactions and responses

589
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Speaker 3: to my interviews because I'm like, I'm personally interested if

590
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: this story resonated with the audience, and I will say,

591
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: like it was it was kind of tough interviewing Brandy

592
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Speaker 3: Glamville last fall about the fallout with Caroline Manzo, because yeah,

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Speaker 3: Caroline Manzo is someone who's done our live shows, and

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Speaker 3: Caroline Manzo has made some pretty intense claims against Brandy,

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Speaker 3: and obviously, like sexual assault is like such a serious issue,

596
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Speaker 3: So it was like kind of tough knowing how Caroline

597
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: feels and the accusations she's made, while also sort of

598
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: creating space for Brandy to share her side of the

599
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 3: story because they both feel like victims in the situation,

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Speaker 3: and the fandom is very polarized with people either supporting

601
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Speaker 3: Brandy or people supporting Caroline. And I think that, you know,

602
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: both sides make pretty valid arguments, but it was like

603
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: a tough place to be in the middle because the

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Speaker 3: accusations against Brandy, which we don't know if they're true

605
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Speaker 3: or not. She claims this Caroline claims us like they're

606
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: pretty sordid and not cool. It was just it was

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Speaker 3: I left that interview feeling or not not the interview.

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Speaker 3: I had a nice chat with Brandy, I left that

609
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: whole experience feeling just a little uneasy and uncomfortably.

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Speaker 1: To you, man, that cannot that has to be so

611
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: hard and what about if you think Danny wants to

612
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Speaker 1: add something.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I was gonna say. That's also the hard thing

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00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 6: that it comes across because a lot of times, of course,

615
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 6: when you're talking like the pop culture space, some of

616
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 6: it it's like very fun or like can be silly,

617
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 6: like for like Ronny lat Season when it's like, oh

618
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 6: my god, she's gay, and like they're fighting over parmesan

619
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Speaker 6: and like that's start Genifester yourself shoving mazzarel in your face.

620
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 6: Like you have those like really fun moments you can

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Speaker 6: go on. But then a lot of times, not always

622
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 6: to the extremeness of braind and Carolyn, but then you

623
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 6: have people that are dealing with things where it's like

624
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 6: a long term friendship fallout, a divorce, people like losing

625
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 6: the money help things where it is more of a

626
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 6: delicate dance to have that conversation. And also it's a

627
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 6: hard thing too where you hope people it doesn't always happen,

628
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Speaker 6: but you hope people interpret it and digest it with

629
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 6: a little more severity than the lighter stuff. But that's

630
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Speaker 6: where also when people consume things, they don't really have

631
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Speaker 6: all the different levels of consumption too.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: When I was at Bravo Con, one of somebody who

634
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: runs a page that is very popular and folks on

635
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: Bravo and Housewives was sharing with me that he was

636
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: really nervous because one of the women from one of

637
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: the franchises, they were at a table close to where

638
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: we were sitting. They already approached him. They had already

639
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: given him shit. They were pissed at whatever he had

640
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: talked about. So and he's there and he asked to

641
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: face them now again, you two. I have no idea

642
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: how you pull it off, but as I can't imagine

643
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: anyone would have ever been upset with you guys over

644
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, something you said or the way that you

645
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: treated him. I mean, Evan, did you ever have anybody

646
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: that came at you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, uh, come at me. I don't know if

648
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: I would classify it that way, but it is like

649
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: a really difficult dance because the thing is like I

650
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: feel like whenever Danny and I talked to someone or

651
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: have them on the podcast or talk to them on

652
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 3: a carpet, like we are giving them the space to

653
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: be the queen, Like we hand them the scepter and

654
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: the tr and we're like, this is your space, queen,

655
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 3: do your thing. I will say one thing that an

656
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: interesting incident that happened was we had Sutton do our

657
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 3: live show in September and she made a joke about

658
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: Erica Jane's ticket sales. Now months prior, I participated in

659
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: Erica Jane's bed at All on Blonde press Day and

660
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: we did this whole like wonderful interview at the Live

661
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: Nation headquarters and I told her how like I found

662
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: myself a fake ID when I was eighteen years old

663
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: to see her open for Kim Zolciak at a gay

664
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: club before any Bravo fan knew who she was.

665
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, she knows.

666
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: I am like an OG fan and I have spent time, money,

667
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: and dedication to see her performed live, like I really

668
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: am a fan of her music. But Sutton made fun

669
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: of her music after the fact, or made fun of

670
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: her residency ticket sales after the fact at our live show.

671
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: And then we saw Erica on the carpet up Bravo

672
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: Con and she didn't just like skip us, she like

673
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: stumped past us, and I just I connected it there.

674
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, you're.

675
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 6: Mad at us giving She's so glamorous. It was such

676
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 6: a good like she almost dance pies.

677
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 5: She's a great house one.

678
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: Did you guys talk about it? Like why were you like, well,

679
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: hello and goodbye Erica Jane.

680
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: We didn't really acknowledge it. I didn't want to. I

681
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: didn't want to believe that it was really happening. But

682
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: then I like we processed it later and I'm like,

683
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: oh my god, she's totally mad about the Sutton situation.

684
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: And it's like that's a tough thing too, because like

685
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: obviously without naming names, like Danny and I have our

686
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 3: favorites and we have our strong relationships and we have

687
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 3: the girls, like I mean, we will name you guys,

688
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: like we love you guys so much.

689
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: But then like you're on our show, you better.

690
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: Then like you have your favorites, and then you talk

691
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: to their mortal enemies and then you're kind of like

692
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 3: wondering like, oh my god, like what are they going

693
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: to think of? You know what I mean. So it's

694
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: it's like interesting, like for instance, like you Jackie, like

695
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 3: we were so excited to see you on the carpet

696
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: I bravokhon and then Margaret Joseph's come by and we

697
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: have to talk to her but I feel like what

698
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: I will say about you and Margaret is you both

699
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: do a really good job of like not letting that

700
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: impact your relationship with like press, which I find.

701
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: So No, I don't even really I mean, I would

702
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: never hold it against like she did an interview at

703
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: the People's Choice Awards the other day. She said some

704
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: nonsense about how I've changed, and I'm not the person

705
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: that she thought. I like, it's all nonsense, and I

706
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: don't even get a chance to respond to it. But

707
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: I don't pay attention to like who she's saying it to.

708
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: I only know what she's saying. I mean, I pay attention,

709
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: but I'm not holding it against of course the person

710
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: that she's saying that nonsense too, which, by the way,

711
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: I will do.

712
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll say, we'll say yes, I have not We're

713
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: not going there today anyway.

714
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: So Danny, what is just tell us like one Rose

715
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: and Thorn.

716
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 6: I feel the Rose is definitely me and Evan love

717
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 6: getting the chance to talk to all of like women

718
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 6: like you and guys from Brava where it's just these

719
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 6: like really fun layered, complex people and getting to show

720
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 6: we always hope that we can show the people who

721
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 6: listen or read the interviews we do the side of that,

722
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 6: like the true person behind the person they see on TV,

723
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, to let them know it's

724
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 6: like you and Colm, obviously we're gonna ask you or

725
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 6: ask anybody about the drama going on in the season

726
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 6: because or the show that they're on, because that's like

727
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 6: what I'm sure also they want to talk about because

728
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 6: it shows that it's like the real life things and

729
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 6: just getting to know everybody a little bit better. So

730
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 6: that's definitely the rose and the thorn I feel like,

731
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 6: and it does happen where I'm sure it even happens

732
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 6: for you guys too, where it's like I have to

733
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 6: go to dinner and now dinner is work. Where it's

734
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 6: like watching these shows are fun, but having to watch

735
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 6: them like from a work point of you, because I

736
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 6: can never just housewives and just now and shehlle and

737
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 6: have a great time like so many people love to

738
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 6: watch it, right, Okay, watching it almost like having to

739
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 6: take like little bits of notes here and there'll be like, oh,

740
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 6: what's going on, what's happening? And like and also getting

741
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 6: in a way where like when people are fighting, I'm like, oh,

742
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 6: but I love them. Yeah, something like that. So there's

743
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 6: like ups and downs for everything.

744
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: To So Evan, do you have you experienced any vitriol

745
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: and social media like personally and it doesn't have to

746
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: be you know, due to what you do, but have you,

747
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: like as an adult male, does it affect you the

748
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: way that affects us? Because we were just having a

749
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: whole conversation about like about the dark you know, the

750
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: the holes that we go down where we watch other

751
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: people's lives and we're seeing who's going out without us

752
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: or you know, how perfect people's lives look.

753
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: Does it affect you, guys the way does like a

754
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: middle aged woman, oh hunch of percent.

755
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: I mean I maybe it affects me even more like

756
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: I I yeah, it's social media can definitely be like

757
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: a very toxic place, and when you find yourself in

758
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 3: a hole, it can be hard to yeah, all out

759
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 3: of it. But like in terms of like work stuff,

760
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: it's tough when like you interview someone and then like

761
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: they accuse who you interview of like paying page six

762
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: to like spin this narrative or whatever. Like it's just

763
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: like that's so like certain fandoms will come for me

764
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: and tweet at me and it's just like guys, like

765
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: I'm just doing my job. It's like not that serious.

766
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: These conspiracy theories, like they're not real. No one's paying anyone,

767
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: there's like no hidden agenda whatsoever. But then of course,

768
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: like we don't really I feel like I don't really

769
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: get a lot of like the like hate that you

770
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: know a reality star would get in terms of like

771
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: looks and like that whole thing. Right.

772
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 6: Literally, even just did this really fun video with canvas

773
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 6: from Potomac and he was like, I was like, oh

774
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 6: my god, this looks so good. You look great. It

775
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 6: was so fun. He's like, but this pimple. I was like,

776
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 6: I watched you for seventeen minutes. I didn't see a

777
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 6: fucking pimple ruined the video.

778
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, it didn't.

779
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: Wait ahead, I have a question a little bit off topic,

780
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: So in terms of like comparing our lives to other

781
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: people's in the housewives the world, it's very easy to

782
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: get lost in doing that. The New Rony, why are

783
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 2: they getting every fucking opportunity under the sun. I mean,

784
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 2: like they are brand new, and like I'm happy for them,

785
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: but like they Jackie for a while and now it's

786
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: not killing me. I'm just very curious, like they are

787
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: at every exclusively. Yeah, they are hosting the Oscars this year.

788
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: I mean like not really, but like they are getting

789
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 2: everything what is going on.

790
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: It's funny you say that, Jackie, because I actually had

791
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 3: a very similar thought the other day. I was like, wow,

792
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: like these girls like they're killing it. Like Jessel was

793
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: on the cover.

794
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: Of Rolling Stone. Oh oh, Jessel was on the cover

795
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: of Interviews. She was in Rolling Stone magazine. I mean, like,

796
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm lucky if I get into like us online.

797
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: If I were to guess, I think unfortunately, because like

798
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 3: we live in a bit of an age of society.

799
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: I think it's because they're younger. I think they're they're

800
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: New York City. New York City is seen as like

801
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: very like aspirational and stylish, so it's like young aspirational fashion.

802
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 3: I think that's why they're getting I mean, I think that's.

803
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: So you're saying the old chicks from Jersey should not

804
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: hold their breath.

805
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: I'm just saying unfortunately, Like, yeah, I think if I

806
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 3: had to like pint it on anything, it would be

807
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 3: like a little bit of like agism and the fact

808
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: that they are like younger and they're just like shiny

809
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: new toys in a way, not saying taking it away

810
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: from them. I want to see Jessela and Brynn on

811
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: everything and everywhere. I'm just saying I think that's probably

812
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: like where it's rooted.

813
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 5: I think that's in New York.

814
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 6: Everyone is just always like you hear, like New York,

815
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 6: New York. God, you just instantly where it's like. And

816
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 6: they probably every event is in the city where I'm

817
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 6: sure it's the first people where they're like, I've done then,

818
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 6: but you're like, no, I.

819
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: Mean, I'm happy for them.

820
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: Listen though, I mean I look at like Teresa, who

821
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: is just on Name that Tune last night. I mean

822
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: she's Teresa is a one. Yeah, she is everywhere Jimmy Fallon.

823
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: I mean, she's been doing this for fifteen years. Correct.

824
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: But I'm saying these are these girls are shiny and new.

825
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: Teresa is iconic, right, So I think there's probably somewhere

826
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: there's it's going to happen that these girls are not

827
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: so shiny and not so new, and we'll see who

828
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: becomes iconic, you know, I think a Lisa vander Pomp

829
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 1: for instance, or a who are the icons the ogs Meani,

830
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: they're always gonna get Starne.

831
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so you know, I just want

832
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: to know, Like, I know what you're gonna ask. No,

833
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: go ahead, what am I gonna ask? Who's your favorite

834
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: friend of a housewife? It's always jenfessor everybody stuff. It's cheeky,

835
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: it's an idea, Okay, can I ask you this? Don't

836
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: you think that the friend role has been completely redefined.

837
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 2: I think there are some of the most iconic people

838
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: on I'm not talking about me and Jen, but I'm

839
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 2: talking like, no, I have no idea. Sometimes people will

840
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: to I have no idea, who's a friend, who's a housewife?

841
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: Who's not? Like I didn't even know that Marisol was

842
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: a friend of until this year.

843
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: Well it's interesting to say that because I just had

844
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: a breakfast with Julia from Miami this morning and we

845
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: were talking about that. I was like, when are Adriana

846
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 3: and Marisol and Kiki gonna get mohitos? Because they film

847
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: like they are full time, and you know, last season,

848
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: like I felt like you guys both interacted and participated

849
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: as if you were full time too. So I think

850
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: that the friend role is definitely expanding. I also think

851
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: that it's becoming more important to each franchise. It's actually

852
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 3: kind of like a nice sweet spot for people. And

853
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys have experiences like you're involved, but

854
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 3: you're not like too involved, like you can be drama

855
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: but like yes, like cameras inside your house really, so

856
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: it's like, I don't know, it's kind of like the

857
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: best of both worlds.

858
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 5: In mine.

859
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 3: Told me that she was like, I prefer like being

860
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: a friend. I prefer like dipping out, and like it's

861
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: kind of like in a way up to you guys

862
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: what you show, right, and is that kind you know?

863
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: It definitely is. They don't come to this season. I

864
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: got dragged into so much nonsense.

865
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: I don't mean but I don't mean interactions with other housewives.

866
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean the coming into your home taking a look

867
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: at what's going which.

868
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: Because you know, Evan and my kids needed a yeah,

869
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: you know, four teenagers, they wanted their own space.

870
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 5: And I feel that's what Marioso says.

871
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 6: She loves the friend of world because she's like, I

872
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 6: don't want to like bring everything into She's like, I

873
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 6: like to go have her cockies have a great look

874
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 6: amazing and then had out.

875
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: Yes, did you guys pick up on. By the way,

876
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: we're completely off of social media, but I'm done with that,

877
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: so anyway, but did you guys, Now I just want

878
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: a gossip, So anyway, did you guys pick up though?

879
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: On the finale? It was the finale last night of Miami,

880
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: and you know they usually do at the end.

881
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: But don't ruin anything for anyone, because not everything at all.

882
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 5: How they did the friend of like wrap ups first

883
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 5: and then everybody else.

884
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they never do the friend of wrap ups, right, guys,

885
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: they do. They're the friend of Nobody gives two shits

886
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: what they're doing at the end, but they always do.

887
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: You know, Oh, they did a friend of wrap up.

888
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like, I won't give it anyway.

889
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: But Adriana they do the you know, she freezes and

890
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: then now Adriana is uh dating Amelio Estevez and or whatever.

891
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm just teasing, but you know they tell what happens

892
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: sort of after that, and they did it for the friends.

893
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I wonder if the other franchises will follow suit,

894
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 3: because I mean I personally loved it. Also, they did

895
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 3: the finale at Adriana's event, so like, right, the fact

896
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: that they like leaned on a friend to right finally,

897
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 3: I mean says something. And I know that obviously Jersey

898
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: and Miami have a different production company behind That's why

899
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 3: they're doing things a little bit differently. But like, I

900
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 3: would love if they would highlight the stories of friends

901
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: of on every franchise because obviously there's iconic friends of

902
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 3: on New Jersey, but like even Atlanta has historically had

903
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 3: like amazing friends like marlow for so yes, yes, I

904
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: don't know the give the friends of the great their light.

905
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: So when Danny and Evan and I were in con

906
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: and I know people say, can's con I'm never going

907
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: to get it right, one of the best days of

908
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: my life.

909
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: But whatever.

910
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: Having said that, we came up with the idea that

911
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: there she be an ultimate friends trip.

912
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: I would love that.

913
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: I mean, calm on, I want you to picture that.

914
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: It's like how many friend well, Marlowe became a housewife, right,

915
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a.

916
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: Lot of housewives that were friends first then, I mean

917
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: was a friend first. No one even remembers that she

918
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: was a friend her first season, and it's so sad, right,

919
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot that blurred the line. So I

920
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: think if you were ever a friend. Yes, Perfect Perfect.

921
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: Was a friend for a season and has a scripted

922
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: development deal with NBC. So like, yes, you never know

923
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: amazing friends, But I do think that a friend of

924
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: a girl's trip would.

925
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: Be amazing if you put the right people.

926
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Jersey, I feel like, thank you put Marisol.

927
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: I know she already did it with a Lea, but

928
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: Marisol and Adriana together on a girl Yes, Kiki, that'd

929
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: be love. They probably would need Kiki so that they

930
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 3: don't whether it's.

931
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: Oh Taylor Taylor, I'm strong, she's a party. I like, yeah, tailor. Okay,

932
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: So here's my question, and you don't have to answer

933
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: if you don't want to, but I would love for

934
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: you to answer. Going back to social media, which Bravo

935
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: star face tunes herself the most.

936
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: Shd Okay, let's see it.

937
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: Could be a past one. I mean taking Patti Sanger

938
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: out of it because it's just out of control. She

939
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: doesn't even cow she's in the strongsphere.

940
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 3: You know what's so crazy about Patti Sanger is like

941
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: I have seen her in real life like she does.

942
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: She's a beautiful woman, but she does not need.

943
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 3: All of that face tune. Patty out of the equation.

944
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: I don't know who comes to mind, Danny.

945
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 6: Every person I know who face tunes so much is

946
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 6: like what we were saying, like gorgeous in real life

947
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 6: to the point where I'm like, I would I would

948
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 6: face to myself to look like you. I would say, hold.

949
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 6: Most seems to be Lisa Hawksne from Miami, and I

950
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 6: said that, yeah, he comes into paid sex stunning in

951
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 6: like the mooglair body suits, high heels, bag her hot

952
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 6: new boyfriend with her in toe. So I'm like, what

953
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 6: are you face, I'm.

954
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: Like you, I would, well, like Lisa is out of control,

955
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: and also because I call her face tuning out of

956
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 3: control because like Danny said, like she is a stunning

957
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: person in real life and then on Instagram she looks

958
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 3: like an AI character.

959
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she does cartoon.

960
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: It's crazy because she really is the girl. And even

961
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: like in the in the trailer or the teaser for

962
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 3: the Miami reunion. I don't know if she's gotten something

963
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: done recently, but she looks especially refreshed and beautiful.

964
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: And she looks at one of those blow up dolls

965
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 1: you order, Well, I don't. I don't order them.

966
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 6: Maybe I do sex episode face turning? Who from the

967
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 6: Jersey cast do you think facetunes the most?

968
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: We can't do that. We're going to get in so

969
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: much trouble. But I have a you know what, I'm

970
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: gonna be honest with you. We all do. Jack says,

971
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: there are some that do it to a ridiculous extent.

972
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: And I won't say her name. There's one that like, well,

973
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: like if you post a picture and she's not face

974
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: tuned to like the n's degree is like, take it down,

975
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: take it down. She'll like, have you gotten that to

976
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: take it down? I have a feeling I know who

977
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: you mean, but I'm not going there. I've had to

978
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: pull pictures down.

979
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: I will tell you that I don't know how to

980
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: face tune. So so first there's that I can't for

981
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: the life and me figured it out. But also I

982
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: was saying earlier to Jackie, like like you're gonna see

983
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: my real face, Like there's only so long that I

984
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: can hide it for I'm gonna be on the TV screen, so.

985
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: Liar, liar, pants on fire.

986
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: But I will also disagree with you guys that everybody

987
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 1: is stunning. I was very surprised at probably.

988
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Yeah, sorry, I was like, wait, wait, wait,

989
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: what what.

990
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: That's so funny. I feel like whenever I see people

991
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 3: in person, I always think that they are prettier. They're

992
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 3: either like taller or shorter, or they're just like.

993
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes you know, people say to me wow when I

994
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: meet someone in real life and they're like, are you Jackie,

995
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: And then they'll be like, wow, You're prettier in person,

996
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: and I never know whether it's an insult or not.

997
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm always like, thank you, like I'm not sure you know,

998
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but I think like eventually, yes,

999
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: go on.

1000
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 6: I feel that's people like not knowing what to say,

1001
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 6: you know, and then they're probably like, what the.

1002
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: Fuck is.

1003
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? I love you guys so much much the most fun.

1004
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: Can we just say one more time that I'm kudos

1005
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: to you and respect for doing what you do and

1006
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: doing it in such a kind and respectful way. I

1007
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever heard either one as a matter

1008
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: of fact, and I won't. I'm not going to name

1009
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: names or even the event. But I got jack a

1010
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: text from Evan once and he thought that I was

1011
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: uncomfortable in an interview that we had done, not due

1012
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: to him due to a circumstance and he and Evan

1013
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: you sent me a text like you're She's like, just Jen,

1014
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 1: I am so sorry if you felt uncomfortable, and Dany

1015
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: and I do anything. The thought that we would make

1016
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: somebody feel embarrassed or uncomfortable just tears us apart. So

1017
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: if we did that or not, they didn't do anything,

1018
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 1: but if you felt that way, yeah, we're so sorry.

1019
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: You're definitely not like the others. I was telling Jen

1020
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: that there was there's one blogger in particular who I flocked,

1021
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: but he would just destroy me. And I don't know

1022
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: if he's done it in recent years, but he would

1023
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: go after me so badly every part of my life,

1024
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: my looks, my job, my body, my everything. And I

1025
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: just a lot of respect for you guys because you

1026
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: told the line like you do your jobs so well.

1027
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: But also everyone loves you so thank you, especially.

1028
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 3: Like we would just never want because like I know,

1029
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 3: how like that being.

1030
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: Said, don't stop doing your thing, Okay, don't stop being shady.

1031
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 6: Okay, Oh well, Jersey's coming back soon, so yeah I will.

1032
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah amen, Yeah, So you better be nice to me

1033
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: because I might get a little spicy this season. We

1034
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: may see another side of me this season.

1035
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 5: I'm ready for it.

1036
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the thing is you do love it, and

1037
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: it is your job and you your job is to

1038
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: comment on it. But again, and it's enough already, it's

1039
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: at nauseum. Our praise for you is becoming a little nauseating,

1040
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: but it's true and I think it's probably not always easy.

1041
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: So we thank you, guys. We love you so much.

1042
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 3: I love you too.

1043
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on the podcast. You guys, Bye, guys,

1044
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon. All right, So let's wrap

1045
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: all of this up with some ways that you can

1046
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: actually take a little break from social media if you

1047
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: want to. It's much easier said than done, but we

1048
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: do have some like ideas for you. There was a

1049
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: really really interesting article that I found and they went

1050
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: through some really good ways to take a break from

1051
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: social media. First thing is, too and this is a

1052
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: Harvard study, we should say, the first thing is to

1053
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: know what your triggers are. So like, for me, if

1054
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: I know that people are going somewhere that I was

1055
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: not made a part of, that is a trigger for me.

1056
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: I mean not like a huge trigger, but that's that's

1057
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: what would make me go down to black hole. So

1058
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: know what your triggers are so that you can recognize them.

1059
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have.

1060
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: There are certain pages that I'm that just always, you know,

1061
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: either just they just triggered me, they pissed me off,

1062
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: they would ever so apparently, and I had to learn

1063
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: this when I joined the Housewives. If you unfollow someone,

1064
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: that is a declaration of war. Yes, that is call

1065
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: for bloodshed.

1066
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: Yes. So, but you can mute absolutely, And I have

1067
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: muted several people without on very harm because I don't

1068
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: have to see their nonsense anymore. I can't upset me.

1069
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: Very helpful, beautiful. I love that. And so if you

1070
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: do have a trigger, though, and you can't avoid it,

1071
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: then instead of signing on social media during that event,

1072
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: go for a walk, do something different, go out to

1073
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: dinner with your family, do something else, do anything. This

1074
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: is something that's been really helpful to me. Make it

1075
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: a blanket. Know that you cannot look at social media

1076
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: first thing in the morning, like give your dad's time limits. Yes,

1077
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: I give myself until I give myself. I wake up

1078
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: usually at like six thirty in the morning, and I

1079
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: do not let myself check social media until after I

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Speaker 2: drop my kids off at school in the morning. So

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Speaker 2: it's like after eight o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Well, you'll be happy to know that that's what the professional,

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Speaker 1: my professional told me, my therapist. So the first instinct,

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Speaker 1: right is and it happens in the middle of the night,

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Speaker 1: the eyes open. It's the reach for the phone. And

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Speaker 1: I've had to work very hard on this. But not

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Speaker 1: reaching for the phone, getting a cup of coffee and

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Speaker 1: all of this is so not me. I've started to journal.

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Speaker 1: I don't I've never been able to meditate, but I'm

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Speaker 1: just taking a certain amount of breaths and understanding that

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Speaker 1: all of what's going on on my phone is not real.

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Speaker 1: So trying to be present, trying to even you know,

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Speaker 1: watch the news, and starting off my day without the

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Speaker 1: immediate you know jump.

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Speaker 2: It's very helpful. The BS. Yeah, there's also apps that

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Speaker 2: you can use, like there's something called the Freedom App

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Speaker 2: and the Cold Turkey app, and they really limit your

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Speaker 2: access to social media. You could also delete social media apps,

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Speaker 2: but that's not really going to work for us, you

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Speaker 2: and I. And also do you hear what the young

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Speaker 2: people are doing now? They're getting dumb phones. It's like

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Speaker 2: remember the flip phones that we used to use. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, I saw that like landlines are coming back,

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Speaker 2: like the ones that touched your wall with the spiral cord. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: my dad has a landline attached his home. Well I

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Speaker 2: love that. Well, I mean, yeah, dumb phone in school.

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Speaker 2: That way you can't check everything. But you know, I

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Speaker 2: probably won't be doing any of those things aside from

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Speaker 2: avoiding people. And I don't check first thing in the morning,

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Speaker 2: and that what we say, no what we do? Yeah? Right?

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Speaker 2: And also like maybe.

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Speaker 1: See how it feels right, so if you can. I

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Speaker 1: hate giving advice like this that I know I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to follow, but like sell.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we should follow it because you'll have more free time,

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Speaker 2: you'll sleep better without that blue light right before you

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Speaker 2: go to bed. And this is the one that's most

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Speaker 2: important to me is social media tricks you into thinking

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Speaker 2: that you're connecting with people. But you know the difference

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Speaker 2: when I am really with my friends and really face

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Speaker 2: to face and doing something together where we're really connecting

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Speaker 2: in real life, it feels completely different. There's really laughter,

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Speaker 2: there's real tears. Yeah, you know, it's different. You know

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Speaker 2: when it gives you, if you sign off a little

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Speaker 2: bit more, it gives you more chances to connect with

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Speaker 2: people in real life, and that's really important to your

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Speaker 2: mental health. I may try just because I feel like

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Speaker 2: after this, uh we can go ahead a drink instead

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Speaker 2: of not too yes you guys, all right, Well, we

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Speaker 2: love you guys. This was such a fun episode to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much, and please drop comments anything

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Speaker 1: you guys maybe want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: you so much. Bye bye, guys.