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Speaker 2: We backed another episode of Club for our twenty podcasts.

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Speaker 2: I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells.

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Speaker 1: Special guest on my left, Indiana Legend in the building,

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Speaker 1: Introduce my man's last my far left. We got my dog.

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Speaker 1: This should be hearing out the periles. How you went nasty,

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Speaker 1: cool and nasty. Let's get to it.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's a long night, long night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm back though, I'm back a hundred and.

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Speaker 2: The neutral course get real tricky for sure, I'm back.

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Speaker 1: Look now he had a uniform normally here here with

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Speaker 1: the Black Forces with the white laces. You know something

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Speaker 1: from the two one nine. Have you ever seen the

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Speaker 1: Black Forces with the white lecens up north man.

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Speaker 4: Now with the white laces. I've seen in all black

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Speaker 4: the black laces.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What that meaning? Two one on? What they got

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Speaker 3: us some forces? One?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah that man? I mean you're ready step you

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Speaker 4: stepped watching the Black Forces. You gotta watch him go

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Speaker 4: he's doing.

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Speaker 3: I didn't put so much mud on the Black Force

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Speaker 3: like it wasn't like that one niggas didn't look at

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Speaker 3: people like that.

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Speaker 2: Bro, You're right.

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Speaker 4: I remember, man, I remember I had a middle school team.

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Speaker 4: All of them was hooping the low top Black Forces

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Speaker 4: hooping in them the game.

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Speaker 5: The whole team.

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Speaker 4: Team from Chicago Morgan Park, they all whole black like,

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Speaker 4: oh okay, get ready.

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Speaker 1: They pressed the whole game team flippers. But it's about right,

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Speaker 1: my dog, young I told your team you got you what?

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Speaker 4: And I'm cooling, man. We got a seven graduate. Yeah, bro,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be a good show for sure. Man gigged

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Speaker 4: about this episode. Man, I ain't gonna hold you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying that two one nine.

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Speaker 1: I always love relationship up there, and I gotta say, man,

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Speaker 1: you are one of the most underrated players to come

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Speaker 1: out Indiana, Like one of the most underrated players that

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Speaker 1: don't get talking about enough from the state of Indiana,

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Speaker 1: from your high school career to your college career and

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Speaker 1: to having a decade plus in the league. Man, you

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Speaker 1: have one of the most underrated careers. Man, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about that ship today. But if you don't know

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Speaker 1: who we got each one more and my dog man

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Speaker 1: appreciate you pulling up on the big job.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate having me. Man, I don't watch enough episode and

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Speaker 4: say Okay, by time I'm saying facts for sure.

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Speaker 1: Now I have my toe homies about I was like

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Speaker 1: Mike g GP Hollis like, hey, we gotta make that happen. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy that we made happy without them, so we

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Speaker 3: Took my nigga to reil shout out the man, my

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Speaker 3: nigga put this together.

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Speaker 5: Love game.

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Speaker 1: No, I appreciate you big that look he really out

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Speaker 1: of pocket. He got to tell he got the basketart.

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Speaker 3: You know his love I had a loan.

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Speaker 4: You have a different he knew person about your career.

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Speaker 1: I feel for sure, man, we gotta take it back.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, class seven man growing up before having

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Speaker 1: any running.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you remember the first time we played against him,

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Speaker 4: we thought him my boy field looking like.

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Speaker 2: Like like twin, let me twin, and he came out

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Speaker 2: like who is this nigga? And but he was cool,

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Speaker 4: Now a full story. You know that the full we

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Speaker 4: were talking ship time story all the way, all the

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Speaker 4: the way I went.

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Speaker 2: I want to an elite.

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Speaker 4: It's actually is actually our freshman year, our freshman year

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Speaker 4: want to come. We're gonna get you some shoes, and

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Speaker 4: I'm yeah, come on, anything.

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Speaker 3: Free of me.

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Speaker 4: So pair of shoes, you get the travel, Come on,

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Speaker 4: I'm coming to hoop. So the guys are from middle

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Speaker 4: only doing for EA Chicago. I'm just going out there

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Speaker 4: I do remember the dude feel that hold on before

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Speaker 4: the game. They're like, man, you look like my boy

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Speaker 4: this show. When they joking on me, they don't say

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Speaker 4: I think it's cool. That's crazy because you have the

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Speaker 4: they talking crazy? I'm on the team full of due

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Speaker 4: white dudes on my team and me and one other

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Speaker 4: first time that you know before that I ain't leave

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Speaker 4: time even traveling the hoop. First couple of buckets. In

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Speaker 4: the next couple of buckets, are you weak ass? And

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Speaker 2: Are you a bit about time?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: He that comes to me clean. He's a bully, he man,

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Speaker 4: he was.

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Speaker 3: To that to you.

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Speaker 4: I got too out of got too many buck I

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Speaker 4: people think I'm quiet, I ain't quiet. I'm just super

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Speaker 4: I can't talk, and who. So people like, man, you're quiet,

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Speaker 4: of course you just go up like I can't talk,

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Speaker 4: I can't function it. I ain't gonna I mess up

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Speaker 4: here play. I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot something crazy. I can't,

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Speaker 4: I always just be chilling. I'll be mellow. I gotta

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Speaker 2: So then a boy.

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Speaker 4: Then by one, I'm probably about taking about twenty points in.

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Speaker 4: I got a shoulder shove and everything. We just got

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Speaker 4: you you know what I'm saying. But after that game,

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Speaker 4: was our first time running to each souse. I'm like, damn, man,

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Speaker 4: he trying. You know what I'm saying. You want to smoke.

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Speaker 4: He came out playing point guardship. I'm like, hell no,

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Speaker 4: after that, I knew who he was after that day.

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Speaker 4: Since then, though, it's been cool. Man sore. After that

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Speaker 4: for real, we just found out, like damn, I'm like Dan,

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Speaker 4: here's somebody else is like you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: because I'm I mean, y'all Northeast, you know what I'm saying. Neighborhood,

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Speaker 4: neighborhood kids, probably the kids, but I'm leaving outside of here.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking of all the other people from everywhere else

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Speaker 4: They just like me. They talking like you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. We hoopd the Indiana All STARF no crazy.

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Speaker 4: I played against you. Well I played let me tell

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Speaker 4: you this story. So I played against them for three minutes.

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Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, but we played when you was on

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Speaker 4: s y F. Yeah you Robbie. I had one too,

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Speaker 4: but a very time that we saw each other after, man,

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Speaker 4: it was cool.

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Speaker 4: I actually liked. I'm like, okay, they just like us.

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Speaker 2: Indian All Stars was a time man.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we had We had a

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Speaker 2: That's what I knew.

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Speaker 4: He was different though, All Stars because you know, everything

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Speaker 4: was geared around Eric. Like so we go to practice.

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Speaker 4: You know, they was all going to Indiana schools. I'm

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Speaker 4: going to wake so I wasn't getting no love. They

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Speaker 4: was the Purdue verse you and practice.

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Speaker 5: He like I got Eric.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, it was average, Like I got him,

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Speaker 4: go at it. I'm like, yeah, it's crazy because I

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Speaker 4: know people used to always try to like, uh, prepare

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Speaker 4: and at the time, I ain't gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 4: I thought I was cold. And then I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I look back.

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Speaker 4: I look back on him. I got once about time

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Speaker 4: I got to I said what he was like, I

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Speaker 4: They could have went to the NBA tenth grade.

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Speaker 3: I went to that game where I played them. He

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Speaker 1: His career so underrating obviously at time period, like everybody

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Speaker 1: every year, we had consistent McDonald's Americans. But Eric was

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Speaker 1: so good, but y'all was just right there to It

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Speaker 1: just didn't help because everybody pushed that. But y'all was,

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Speaker 1: like you said, you wouldn't state the time where everybody

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Speaker 2: You had to play everybody good to get that one yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, competition was crazy as the amount of dudes that

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Speaker 4: all the time, man a competition we was and one

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Speaker 4: like nobody doesn't no smoke. Everybody wanted to play against

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Speaker 4: each other. It was all love to at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Even with y'all, Like it was just so crazy because

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Speaker 1: pite even in years was going twenty two and four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got to play Greg Golden and if you get

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Speaker 1: lucky and beat them, you get Eric Gordon.

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Speaker 2: That sh is crazy.

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Speaker 4: They had Josh roberts bro then we have people like

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Speaker 4: people forget like Dominique James.

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Speaker 2: That was cold rich Ship.

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Speaker 4: We played Juwana and then he was at Franklin Central.

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Speaker 4: They beat us one game, like damn really escape but

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Speaker 4: NBA player really Yeah basketball, I feel like indiwna high

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Speaker 4: school basketball the best in the country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean for other people, they might want to argue that.

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Speaker 1: For me, I feel like it's the best. It's especially

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Speaker 1: that air for sure, that goal there here. Everybody had

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Speaker 1: a NBA player. Everybody had multiple D one players. Like

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Speaker 1: you couldn't duck that smoke. But you said that seven

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Speaker 1: class man, I was y'all was different like all across

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Speaker 1: the board, like everybody who got drafted and then y'all

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Speaker 4: Ide put his head on just like that somebody else.

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Speaker 4: But he was like he knew he was you and

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Speaker 4: We would have been so nasty that'd been That'd have

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Speaker 2: So they was like, you can leave. You got like

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Speaker 2: And I called my mom, was like you think we

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it's been fun as hell, want cool as.

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Speaker 4: He even Rob like people ain't was as cool as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and was cold like obviously in college, but high

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Speaker 2: Shot he was cold.

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Speaker 4: gyms were for due. I think about he a lot,

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Speaker 2: Who was the other dudes you had?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Angel, Yeah, we're hell.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you a fan A seven foot KD coming out.

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Speaker 2: I said, it came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: It was cold. I did not need that edition, bro

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Speaker 3: Him kwan in that front corn and.

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Speaker 2: Dribbling the boll. I'm like, man, he got bullies.

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Speaker 4: I was like, he ain't. No, that's only that's only

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Speaker 4: But man, he was nice.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously you know what I'm saying, you going

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Speaker 2: The Big Ten with the big team was the Big Ten?

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Speaker 2: Like everybody was lit there. Man, it was nice.

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Speaker 4: So it's crazy, Man, I ain't had a capable when

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Speaker 4: I grew up, you know what I'm saying. So Purdue

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Speaker 4: so you know me, I was watching the gaming, man, hag.

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Speaker 4: I wish I could hoop somewhere like that. So going

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Speaker 4: that was like crazy. I'm like, dang d when they

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Speaker 4: Against out of the Big Ten, just in general, because you.

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Speaker 2: Know, y'all had all seasons, y'all was going to the

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Speaker 5: I don't know it's.

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Speaker 4: Crazy because we called Steph like he's aid Davison, you

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Speaker 4: got to chase something around. He was going crazy, damn.

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Speaker 4: Obviously Ever Turner, who was even Turner in college was

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Speaker 4: crazy six eleven, I mean six seven point.

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Speaker 4: Man, it's a lot of it's so many, it's it's

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember Isaiah Thomas. My boy, he was tough.

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Speaker 1: Man, be planning on Twitter kind of like you like

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Speaker 2: The year.

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Speaker 5: Come on. Man.

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Speaker 4: He was cold, he was unstoppable. He posting people up,

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Speaker 3: Yeah he was.

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Speaker 2: He was like that for sure. If you wasn't going

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. Other schools I like Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee. And

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Speaker 4: I like Georgia Tech. Paul Hill. You know, like I said,

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Speaker 4: I would left for some familiarity.

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Speaker 2: So I like Paul Hood, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, Like I probably can relate to him.

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Speaker 4: And what I'm saying, you know, doing this thing in

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Speaker 4: I met j J. Then they messed it up. Man.

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Speaker 4: They all, man, we should go to school to Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Let's go do it. That's a help of that's a

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Speaker 4: Now they class really changed the whole thing for producing.

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Speaker 4: Y'all got it cracking again because Dave Dave t you

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Speaker 4: and it's crazy cool for Indiana just see. You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Indiana up, Yeah, because are you they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, represent but.

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Speaker 1: Like getting like you and t it's wrong. It's a

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Speaker 1: How was that process for you?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: That process is crazy. I mean people always ask you

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Speaker 4: I'll give you a little decent cor ye, give me

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Speaker 4: a little Cadillac, Give you a little decent. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: for real, Jeff c was one of Jeff was one

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Speaker 4: of the dudes that inspired me for real because so

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Speaker 4: I ain't ever had a trainer before that. Nothing like

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Speaker 4: Let I know, all these things drifting.

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Speaker 2: When they got me come in. It's so crazy. You

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta do some of the teams like, man,

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Speaker 4: you got the fifteenth figure, I know I ain't going

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Speaker 4: to fit. Man, I'm barely on the draft. Boy, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was cool though. Man, pre draft process and then

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Speaker 4: getting drafted is a long night for me. Fifty fifth pick.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like everything for a reason.

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Speaker 2: So sure, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, to be second round pick

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Speaker 1: lot first rounds who fizzle out, don't get to that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: You played in.

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00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 4: Played in Man, it's crazy, but I mean I'm not

441
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 4: you based. You're laying for the Bulls is crazy.

442
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,439
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm growing up.

443
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 4: Like I said again, I had a cable, so only

444
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,120
Speaker 4: game came on and ser Bulls and some of the pacers.

445
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 4: But I'm Channel nine w G. You know what I'm saying,

446
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 4: im getting all the you know what I'm saying, growing

447
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 4: up during the mid nineties. Jordan era real. I mean,

448
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 4: it's just a real. I mean I never even even

449
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 4: dreamed of that. You know what I'm saying, that I'd

450
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 4: be playing for the Bulls. You know, you be outside

451
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 4: Jordan's you doing moves. But you know what I'm saying,

452
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 4: you never really thought. You thought you have to be

453
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 4: lucky to make it that far, you know what I'm saying.

454
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 4: So so that was crazy. All my folks get to

455
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 4: come see me, come to the games. Uh, tickets with

456
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 4: created everybody need a ticket but your hotel, everybody trying

457
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 4: to pull take it. I got a little smart with it.

458
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 4: I got a little smart with it though, because everybody

459
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 4: want to come to the game with Lebron You're playing

460
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 4: the Celtis or something.

461
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,959
Speaker 2: I had to spread it out.

462
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't got nothing for this, but you come

463
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 4: playing about to play Detroit, you want some you gotta learn,

464
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 4: you gotta spread them out in these days. So you

465
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 4: gotta know what I'm saying.

466
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 3: They were coming to what you're trying to do. Man,

467
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 3: I got my god.

468
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, so uh yeah, I got I got a

469
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 4: little smart with it after after what I'm saying started out,

470
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 4: I ain't got none of this, but you come to

471
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 4: the next week, you free on free on Thursday. You

472
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So but it was cool though, Man,

473
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 4: everybody come see Washington ball.

474
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 2: So it was dope for sure. Man, that's that that bulls.

475
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Crazy seven class again you

476
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: and d ros the same team?

477
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was that was that was That's that's

478
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 4: crazy to d rose Man another I know seven. I

479
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 4: ben't know him since middle school. First time we hoved

480
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 4: together to Crazy that's crazy. It's like first time, Jeff,

481
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: we was in the gym and the remember that it's

482
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 4: like a little nothing right right.

483
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 5: Gym.

484
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: Now, I'm telling like the gym was like, oh yeah.

485
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,640
Speaker 4: They had woods sticking up and I don't know where

486
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 4: they are is at. But d Road. Same thing, man,

487
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 4: you know him being you know me from being from

488
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 4: East Chicago, Indiana. I just kind of crazy. I always

489
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 4: got to explain that to people your first car, like nah,

490
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 4: it's technically Indiana, but other people they just run with us.

491
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 4: But this school, I get the best of both worlds.

492
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 4: I'm on the border, so you get the best. You

493
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I get the best of both worlds.

494
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 4: And d Roe's only being probably twenty minutes away. We

495
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 4: was in middle school. First time I saw him. Man,

496
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 4: he was crazy. What we like seventh going in the

497
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 4: eighth grade, and I'm telling he them the jumping from

498
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 4: the free throw line.

499
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: He was crazy.

500
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: And in middle school were on a little sade Joah

501
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: think we like provised on East High School, something little

502
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 4: like a Zillia. You know you got the gym, you

503
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 4: got the gym upstairs to the side, man for the

504
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 4: free throw I'm telling you about. Like now, So I'm thinking,

505
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 4: so when I'm I'm young, like I said, I haven't

506
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 4: been out really outside, like I'm always hooping thirty forty

507
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 4: minute radius and I'm like, I'm thinking, I'm the coldest dude.

508
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm from I saw him.

509
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, I went back to the to the crib.

510
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, My look at my neighborhood.

511
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 4: I gotta just this dude. I'm telling you his whole

512
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 4: he is the bat. I'm telling like, man, you go

513
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 4: to go to Lee out of eighth grade and went

514
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 4: I went back home to my father, daddy, all them.

515
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I saw this dude. That was crazy.

516
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 4: So that was cool for us, you know what I'm saying,

517
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 4: going way back then to be on the same team.

518
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: I think that's what the craziest parallel is like, even

519
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: for the crib, for like E and Ship, it's just like,

520
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: even if you're not going around no places like these

521
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: are the best niggas everywhere. But they really are though,

522
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: Like it ain't even just you being biased that's the best. No,

523
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: they're better than everybody everywhere everywhere them too.

524
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 2: Almost going to college together in your class is crazy.

525
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 3: Still.

526
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's sick.

527
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm playing you streets. Did y'all play me in Streets?

528
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 5: Yep?

529
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 4: Play from the Peace Dam Championship. I'm mad they boxing

530
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 4: won me too, shot my boy, Reggie rose Man. That's

531
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 4: what I got before the game said he like, he

532
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 4: can't never say my name right each time. You ain't

533
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 4: getting off. Today I got some foo you I got something.

534
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just laughing. I'm laid back, all right. Man.

535
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 4: He won't let me touch the ball. It was crazy, man,

536
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 4: I'm too that was electric. It's crazy because he offered me.

537
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 4: He tried to get me come play with them too.

538
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 4: He yeah, come over here, man, Man, you're gonna be

539
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 4: crazy and you can shoot, so they gonna get I'm like, nah,

540
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 4: I ain't enough balls over there. Yeah, enough basketball.

541
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: If you would have played on that team, because we

542
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: played them in a big time final four.

543
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 5: All right.

544
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 2: We was beating about like twenty.

545
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, every crossed me a half court and dunked on

546
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 4: this dude name Tommy Freeman right right.

547
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: Boom, crowd went crazy.

548
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: They called the charge. Reggie jumped on the court, got

549
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 4: a tech with crazy. So you know, Indiana Ship, we

550
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: started kind of like holding the ball a little bit.

551
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: Started going crazy, like we sick of that white boy stuff,

552
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: like they're doing crazy on it.

553
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: So we start trying to hoop and Eric went for

554
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: like forty in the second half.

555
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 5: Bro.

556
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: They beat us about twenty was up.

557
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 4: I was like, he was a different monster. Come on,

558
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 4: not literally out of tenth grade. He could have went

559
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: to the league and averaged fifteen out of twelfth grade

560
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 4: last two years of high school. He was just he

561
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: was really just was he was just having fun.

562
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: He was already.

563
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 4: You said the description.

564
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: He could have went to the league sophomore.

565
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: It's crazy, like literally, manep saw like that, like for

566
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: he was for real, he was legit.

567
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: What's the best team you didn't played on? I think

568
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: I know, but it's your career.

569
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 4: He's best team and ANBA my best team. Oh that's

570
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 4: hard to say because I mean, my boss, my first

571
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 4: year was crazy. We played them. I'm gonna really get

572
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 4: in the game. They might put me in for a

573
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: defensive getting there for three seconds.

574
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 6: About that, you know what I'm saying, kid, I could

575
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 6: be out of the twelve. Throw me up for three minutes.

576
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 6: Come out, you know you know kids, look let me

577
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 6: on everything, bust something up.

578
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

579
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: I don't know that.

580
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 4: It's a processing business.

581
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: Process, bron.

582
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: They might throw me in, you know, doctors, man, throw

583
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 4: me in into the second quarter for the last forty

584
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 4: seconds or something like something crazy might being found from here.

585
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 4: Just throw you little stuff like that.

586
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: But it was crazy.

587
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 4: But no, my boss was crazy.

588
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: Man, I was crazy.

589
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 5: Bro.

590
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 4: The Pelicans thing, yeah, I know, I heard y'all talking

591
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 4: about that before. Yeah, we all thought we were for sure.

592
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 4: We all thought we was gonna We thought we had

593
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 4: a chance to win the chip for sure.

594
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 2: That's one of the most the teams that don't get

595
00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: spoke on enough.

596
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 4: That team was sick just with Boogie and a d Bro.

597
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 4: It's like a twin tow. It was crazy like it was.

598
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 4: And then you had really three combo guards. You know

599
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I'm playing a small but I really

600
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: but I really could play the point and two. So

601
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 4: it's like, you know what I'm saying. It was crazy

602
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 4: like we had mismatch and then we often guard anybody.

603
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 4: I heard like, yeah, I was okay switching with Dre.

604
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: I was switching to.

605
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: That's what.

606
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 4: I play. I can lock up too. But yeah, so

607
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: it was so it was crazy, man. We was playing

608
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 4: so fast man, so bully and get hurt for show.

609
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: We definitely thought we had We all started clicking, you

610
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Everybody started knowing it rolls start

611
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: you know, you know what it felt like. You ain't

612
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: really even got to talk no more. It's just okay automatic.

613
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: You already know that.

614
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: I used to do that pistol action, set the slip

615
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: the screen. I hate that ship.

616
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 4: It was crazy because the thing we used to do

617
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 4: it so fast. People they know it's coming. They know

618
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 4: it's coming.

619
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: Man.

620
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 4: He used to push off and get the little pass though.

621
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 4: Drew was hello good at that ship. Be like, Bro,

622
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: they're playing too fast teams, the players that the man

623
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: slow down. Like man, we used to be flying. It

624
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 4: was so crazy. He was playing so fast sometimes. But

625
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 4: bug will touch the ball for like five possession. Man, y'all,

626
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 4: y'all up the court. He he gonna give us one

627
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 4: of two was one of the two touches. Man, y'all

628
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: y'all flying like ship.

629
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: Bro for sure.

630
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: Man, that's great. That was fun. And to hear y'all

631
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: talk about he's still doing it to this day.

632
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: To see Drew, how they still killing like start off

633
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: even with y'all still can see I mean he in Boston,

634
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: Like it's just crazy to hear like all the stuff

635
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: that y'all talked about, and now to keep seeing it.

636
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: Then people start technology because he was back when Drew

637
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: went crazy and locked up down.

638
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, man, that was sick. That was I

639
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: mean Drew, he wanted all the smoke. He and dun

640
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: no smoke.

641
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

642
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: That's one thing, you know, gall on the team with him,

643
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 4: the best player on every team, Like it is either

644
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 4: you're gonna bust you gonna you're gonna you're gonna give it,

645
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 4: You're gonna mess him up, he gonna mess you. It

646
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: ain't no in between. You know what I'm saying. That

647
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 4: he coming at you, you going at him. So that's

648
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 4: one thing each and every night. You know what I'm saying.

649
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: He's a he's a competitor and that's my guy. That's

650
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: probably one of the one of my one of my

651
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: teammates I talked to the most. That's the league.

652
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: Good dude, what you're gonna be here? Drew Drew.

653
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 5: Cold.

654
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't understand, Like even man think about what

655
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: he's in Philly, like man, how cold he was like man,

656
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: Handles was crazy. Man. He used to be so athletic

657
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 4: like man. He used to take off with the leven Man.

658
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: Drew Cold just done to see him still doing the

659
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 4: same ship, still playing, are still killing, still locking people up?

660
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: So you got some good knees.

661
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what he ran.

662
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: Out of the round playing under the room. Slow down, bro,

663
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: it's not one. Mike Colley still in.

664
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 5: The league, still under the.

665
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: Under the round players challenge for sure?

666
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: Right about that?

667
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, man, obviously you still still up

668
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: the game heavily. Who's some of the younger guards you like?

669
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: You say young some of the young guards you like guards?

670
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean, man, you name it's crazy shave shake go crazy?

671
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, say shake go crazy. You can't even speed

672
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: him up like he's being slow motion.

673
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 4: He's so crafty. You know, you know what I'm saying,

674
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: get them files. Obviously you got job. I mean, you

675
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Forget about Joab. You know you

676
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, out of say out of mind.

677
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: Everybody just keeps forgetting about. But man, he a beast.

678
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I've got Maxie. Nobody expected for him to

679
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 4: be as good as he is. He's cold, Yeah, MAXI

680
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. For him to do what

681
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: you do, it's crazy, but yeah, it's just a man.

682
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: It's a whole bunch of guards. Them call get my

683
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: boy colder shut out. Just that's my boy, my boy cole.

684
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: He right here in Orlando and to show some love.

685
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

686
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: Man looking good too, Yeah, Orlando A they gonna be

687
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: something recking with maybe mano man wow man. Oh yeah,

688
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 4: they got a nice young corps. Man. They got a

689
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: lot of basketball too. That's that's that's kind of tough.

690
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: You know what, that big, those big lineups. You know

691
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Everybody everybody six six is taller. They

692
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 4: was starting Marfa Markel at the at the point he's

693
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: six five six six and everybody else six a the taller.

694
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: Man.

695
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: That's tough. They all locking up because molds too. Man,

696
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: he's doing his thing.

697
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: So he'd be cold. He got the extension to be Yeah.

698
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nice. First time coach. You know what I'm saying.

699
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, them being you know what I'm saying, one

700
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: of us. That's that's pretty cool because we now get

701
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: that same.

702
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: So that's that's because a lot of times you see,

703
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: like you see situations, most of black coaches getting really

704
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: tough situations. They gotta turned around the whole bunch before

705
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: they get a chance to even with the benefits and

706
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: them turn around so quick.

707
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a turnaround. I mean a lot of

708
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 4: people on the outside probably won't look for them to

709
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: be as good as quick as they were. But when

710
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: I came back and play here was that, you know,

711
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: something like that. But man, I'm like, yeah, they they're

712
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 4: gonna be all right. They got a squad, They're gonna

713
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: be good going forward. They probably gonna be like right

714
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: behind Boston next year if they take that next week

715
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: in Boston, if they take that next they got the

716
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: like you said, they got the big line up.

717
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: They can switch one through five. They got everybody talented and.

718
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: They play together.

719
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Take They need a bucket out if they need it.

720
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: They need a bucket I mean if I take that

721
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: next leap and just become the guy guy, Yeah, they

722
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: they got it.

723
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: They just need a little bit more shooting. Yeah, a

724
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 4: little bit more.

725
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: A lot of people saying Blake Monk would look perfect

726
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: on that team. They need a guard Hooper score. Maybe

727
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: not Malik exactly, but they need a guard Hooper score

728
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: for sure.

729
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: Can go get them a dub a night though they.

730
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: Don't really need to guard and score. Somebody's make some shots.

731
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 5: Get your solid.

732
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 4: They need saying about somebody hit them timely shots, like

733
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: when you need somebody make a big shot, big play,

734
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 4: but you can depend.

735
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: Onlik need the peel now.

736
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't want you know him and with my favorite

737
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: back for ever. They need like an Austin Reeves.

738
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: The magic they ain't gonna get, but they need like

739
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: they can make shots and he can still handle the

740
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 4: ball stuff.

741
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: That's true.

742
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: They not getting him.

743
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what the player. They need, somebody like I

744
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: mean with the purpose. Milik might be too much. You

745
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: need a ball brope with you, bro, somebody has the

746
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: cheese would have been nice to them, perfect cheese. Oh man,

747
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 4: so good. Somebody can get a bug at timely twenty

748
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 4: every night and get eighteen to twenty when it matter

749
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 4: and and it looks explosive.

750
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: You know what.

751
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 4: I'm like, somebody like him, be per, But I mean

752
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 4: you might be able to get like Bogie Bogie. Oh yeah,

753
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 4: you gotta be nice.

754
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 3: Nice.

755
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: I got to get him healthy, healthy, yeah, Bogy nice man.

756
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Because the Inastern Conference is that that young talent

757
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: is the day up there.

758
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: They got a chance. It's pretty weak over there. Miwaking

759
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: with her mention her now when they was what the

760
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: patient was moving on.

761
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: I don't get I don't care. I don't care. I

762
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: ain't I'm not rolling with the Pacings.

763
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: This year's that ship for gott enjoyed my season, bron.

764
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: G Bro triggered me.

765
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: Bro had for a couple of years.

766
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: Man, I have year. I love I love playing for

767
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: that was the best year of my life. But man,

768
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: show you say.

769
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 5: Like I have freedom.

770
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: Bro?

771
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: You know you got freedom. I freedom with the Hawks,

772
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: Bro Spurs. Bro, you had to do it a certain way.

773
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, your career I got Bro. They was like, you

774
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: could do whatever. You just past the PG after that,

775
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: you can do what.

776
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 4: You say on the mic and keeping it real.

777
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm keeping it real. I'm talking far.

778
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: Off the field, he said. I don't take it.

779
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: Though, I'll be fucking with you like I even got it.

780
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, Bro, why do you want to come here?

781
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: Like He's love Indianapolis throw and through. So I know

782
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: he was going playing for the patients. Eventually, you know

783
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: that was cool.

784
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 2: So what made you?

785
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 4: I saw you got forty four to was.

786
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, you think it's about forty four.

787
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: When I was in high school with forty four because

788
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 4: I wanted the biggest shorts and then like all my friends,

789
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 4: I grew up on the West side Indianapolis, so like

790
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 4: it was to represent them so I could do that.

791
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: Wow, man, all the top definitely was fast.

792
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: He definitely was. It was crazy.

793
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 4: So man, funny story, my brother was at the game

794
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: and he nine years old of me, so he used

795
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 4: to get to come see me play a lot and

796
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 4: he saw me playing against y'all and the game we

797
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: got into it. Like, Bro, you know they're from then.

798
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: Now it's a whole It might be a whole bunch of.

799
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: Like the like get me a jumped. That was cool though. Man,

800
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 4: that's the story.

801
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: Man, that's crazy, go way back, Man, that's crazy. Man

802
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: shout to the seven draft class now Indianada guys. Man,

803
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: like I said, Man, we give your flasers. You definitely

804
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: one of the people who desire about one of the

805
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: most outther writed players. It does not get talked about

806
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: what we talk about players from from Indiana going crazy.

807
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: Bro sire, I bring them up Favery time.

808
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 5: Ahead.

809
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I just bring him up every time, him Eric,

810
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: all them tails on the Indiana All Stars. I talk

811
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 4: about it all the time because I was like it

812
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: was no team better than us and ever come out

813
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 4: of Indian All Stars.

814
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: Bro. Everybody close, know, so you know what's crazy?

815
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 4: You know the Junior All Stars play to Senior All Star.

816
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: We we was killing.

817
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 4: Year two years older. Were killing them like I'm about

818
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: not even close, like killing them.

819
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 2: It's crazy week close.

820
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: And that was Michaels hold on niggas.

821
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah ye don't want those smoke, yell, don't want those smoke.

822
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: I played, they played, but they smacked.

823
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: It was like three games, like a North South and

824
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 4: it was like.

825
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: Our our senior year. I player our junior year. I

826
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 2: got in trouble. I even play.

827
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 7: Yeah we murdered, yeah yeah yeah play. They beat them

828
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 7: like fifty he didn't have to go to sleep.

829
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: Running around the hotel. Yeah yeah, fregating. That was our

830
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: pre game in c L BRO.

831
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's crazy.

832
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: I never forget this day. I was like, all these

833
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: dudes is cool.

834
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: Bro.

835
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: The my homies for life.

836
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 5: BRO.

837
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: That I had one of the most fun times though

838
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: fund stands playing basketball and down All Star man, we

839
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 4: had a ball. We had to make our own fun too,

840
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: because we had some games. I was in Evansville and

841
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: I know we've been in before we one time it

842
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 4: was like Martinsville.

843
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 5: We were like.

844
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: Having Mars is crazy.

845
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 4: Now some places. Brother, I was like, I ain't hold

846
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 4: on y'all, y'all might be.

847
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 5: Away.

848
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 4: I'm away up north, so I don't want used to

849
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: going to some places. So we know what I'm saying

850
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: over the story. We made our own fun, like no

851
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 4: matter what we went every every city we went to,

852
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 4: we was we was clowning.

853
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: Man.

854
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 4: We had a we had a ball. We had we're

855
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 4: making our own parties and we it was crazy.

856
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: That's it's a good thing.

857
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 4: We didn't have no cameras.

858
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: We had so much fun.

859
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: Those stories that man, if you want that and you

860
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 4: want to know about it.

861
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: But we was clowning.

862
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: We had the ball.

863
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 3: So I remember you'll came bro. Your freshman year, y'all

864
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: played ripple came down.

865
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 5: You remember that. That's I knew.

866
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: That's what I used to behave. But you killed yeah

867
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: this nigga. Yeah, walk in the gym, you feel me?

868
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: You you swaggy. I had the big ass weekend. So

869
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: they came in like a.

870
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 2: College three years look college, all right.

871
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: They put my nigger the power four bro.

872
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: Damn, that's great man. He yeah, he take it away back.

873
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 3: You play power four, Bro? You had a you had

874
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: like twenty and fifteen Bro.

875
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: Crazy, you know what's crazy? That was my second high

876
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 4: school game.

877
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say I was always because we used to

878
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: pull up on you.

879
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was only my second. One's crazy. So you

880
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 4: say that because at first I thought I was gonna

881
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: be I thought it was gonna be six eight, like

882
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 4: he said, I was the same height. Yeah, grow that much.

883
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: I was already like six to two. You know what

884
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Come on the first year and I'm saying

885
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 4: I'm handling. But so I used to see teammate Tmger

886
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: is my favorite player about man, but Mac was my

887
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: favorite player. Was he was my favorite player growing up. So, man,

888
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 4: I always was like a big guard. Since I'm sixth grade,

889
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm five five ten, sixth

890
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 4: grade point and I'm saying point forward, So I'm saying

891
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: I thought I was. I thought I was gonna be

892
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 4: six eight, So I'm saying I thought would be like

893
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: a point foward.

894
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: So it's crazy, that's what I said.

895
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: I said, Damn, he played just like me. The first

896
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: forward with the light on it.

897
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: That's why you did the.

898
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, so when did you start playing guard?

899
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

900
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: See though, so it's.

901
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: Crazy, like you said. By the time he saw me playing,

902
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: I mean, he was like, man, he's playing the point.

903
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: But I started transfer once I saw one growing no more,

904
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 4: I'm like, hold up, just really really like my freshman year,

905
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 4: I started trying, like hold on, I ain't growing no more.

906
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: I was six to two at the start of the.

907
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: End of the year.

908
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 4: I'm still sick.

909
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 5: I'm still six to so.

910
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: Man.

911
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: After that, I gotta get my guards skilled straight. It's crazy,

912
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: and I couldn't. I couldn't even shoot threes then if

913
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 4: pose game after getting too the whole I had like

914
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: a little wire shot. But I had my like my godfather,

915
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: coach Bobby Mouse. He took me under his wing and

916
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and he's like man like, man,

917
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: if you want to have a chance to go to

918
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: the lead, you gotta you gotta be a guard, and

919
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: you gotta learn how to shoot.

920
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: Man.

921
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: He used to come get me like six o'clock in

922
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 4: the morning and bring me to the gym, had me

923
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 4: doing form shooting and all that changed my whole change

924
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: my whole shot. And man, that was bid you know

925
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, so credit, Yeah, I'm in death to

926
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: him forever.

927
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: So he was a dog. Bro.

928
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: I used to always signs of high school, always look

929
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: forward to coming to Indy. You know what I'm saying,

930
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 4: coming out there the hoop, that's all the teams. So

931
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: that's crazy stressing.

932
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: I was a scout early seventh once he make it out,

933
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: that's the tig We used to go to the Chicago

934
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: play and I had people out there. I'm like, who

935
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: these niggas is living like this because yeah what I said,

936
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: they finish break nigga, take it out the game.

937
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you come to the man, You come out high

938
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 4: school games crazy, man, like I Bro, I hold all

939
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: our neighborhoods was behind us, Like you come to a game,

940
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 4: the whole bottom sections, all dudes from neighborhood. They're talking

941
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 4: crazy and ye arena.

942
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, the hardest high school gym that we played in.

943
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: Bro.

944
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 4: Yeah it was tough.

945
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: It was said before, Yeah like that was y'all know.

946
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all know. Came up to Willie Fraser.

947
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm tapped my big bros for sure.

948
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: For sure. Man, listen man, we appreciate at your rock

949
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: wet man we gotta do this again. Man, Yeah, we

950
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 2: gotta do this again.

951
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: Man.

952
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: We gotta get like shopping it with the homie for sure. Man.

953
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Man, next time I gotta come. I gotta

954
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 4: come nowt town man, come to come through.

955
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: Man. I love man.

956
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: What you got going on?

957
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: Man?

958
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: You want to speak on anything you got ahead or

959
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: what you're doing now? Any new business visits you want

960
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: to speak on?

961
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure. I like all moneybody want to

962
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 4: invest in, saying your money is to bring it to me. Yeah,

963
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: We're gonna triple your money now, man. But you know

964
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, just transitioning to the other side, going

965
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 4: on two years being out a new tours the end hooping,

966
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 4: probably my last two three.

967
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm like it's.

968
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: Winding down, you know what I'm saying.

969
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: What I'm gonna do next? Like i' went for free agency.

970
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: Uh. Before I went to New Orleans, I had probably

971
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 4: like half the league called me, had probably like fourteen

972
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: teams called me.

973
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: Man.

974
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 4: After I left New Orleans, I had probably like three

975
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 4: teams called then I went to Phoenix. After I left

976
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 4: Phoenix about one to two tail Okay, yeah, wear down.

977
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: I started seeing that trend man, So like, let me

978
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 4: make sure I'm saying. I get my saying, get all

979
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: my cheese, you know what I'm saying, say my future.

980
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 4: So I started getting into some First I started doing

981
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 4: real estate just you know what I'm saying, regular single

982
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 4: flipping homes and stuff like that. Then I got to

983
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 4: some commercial real estate. One of my coolest projects. I

984
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 4: got to do aviation development in Dallas. That's pretty cool,

985
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 4: you know. So, you know, just transition into that business

986
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: side that's been I've been pretty cool, you know, and

987
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: you know, hey, man, it's it's a blessing. Gotta keep

988
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: it going, you know what I'm saying. But also I

989
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: might try to do something basketball. I want to try

990
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: to you know, getting maybe to some front office type

991
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: stuff exact. You know what I'm saying, Get my suit

992
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: and tied. Now, I don't need a man.

993
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: Regular, don't come out, don't dress like I did. I

994
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: pulled up like this to work. I was out of pocket.

995
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 4: Up.

996
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, you got some of this story.

997
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 4: We got to what happened. I was working for the Hawks. Man,

998
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 4: I was a scout. My first meeting, you have a

999
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 4: six hour day. I pulled up in the outfit like this,

1000
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 4: everybody else came with polos.

1001
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: So I was still in hoop mode, you.

1002
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

1003
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: I'm still thinking I'm the guy like about to walk in.

1004
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: We got to chill to do these meetings, and I'm

1005
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: forgetting that I'm on the other side of the basketball.

1006
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: Now I'm in the front office. I don't get on

1007
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 4: the court. So I was all out of pocket. I

1008
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 4: felt so out of place. I'm looking at everybody. I'm

1009
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 4: trying to get up and get water and like so

1010
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 4: they want like sit in the back so they won't

1011
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: notice me. But nah, I was out of pocket. But

1012
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: I knew that wasn't I knew it was for me.

1013
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: That's what that was your first I mean out saw

1014
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: the Mars dress, first time geting drunk. Yeah, that was

1015
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: my first job was working at the grocery store bro.

1016
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: So I ain't really.

1017
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 4: Fastball a job to me. It was like yeah, saying

1018
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 4: we would have did for free, right right. But working

1019
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: in the front office, I was like, dang right, I

1020
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: tell you all the time, I ain't make it playing better.

1021
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 4: I'll be hoping at the Boys and Girls Club anyway.

1022
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, just just for fun.

1023
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, I said, you know, I just try

1024
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: to you know what I'm saying. Obviously I love basketball

1025
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 4: and always mentoring young guys and guys is in college

1026
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 4: guys that you know what I'm saying, that in the

1027
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 4: league still, so I'm like and I'm watching all the games,

1028
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: so like, man, why not try to know what I'm saying,

1029
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: stick around the game and you know, being a player

1030
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 4: and going through every step. Like I was a starter

1031
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: for four five years, came off the bench for three

1032
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 4: four years. They had two years where I was kind

1033
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: of playing, really not playing. So what I'm saying, I

1034
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: didn't got the taste of everything in the league. So

1035
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 4: why not try to give back being a player. They

1036
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: need more more players, more guys like us that I

1037
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 4: understand what's going on and we can't know what I'm saying,

1038
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: relate to the younger guys now because guys coming in

1039
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 4: at nineteen like my first year, like yeah he was

1040
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 4: on the old team too, but my first year on

1041
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 4: the team maybe had like eight dudes is like thirty

1042
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 4: three years older.

1043
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1044
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 4: I'm in Boston, so now the lead like younger, and

1045
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, just try to bridge that gap.

1046
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying front the front office, and

1047
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, some of the players, I

1048
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 4: feel like that's something that they need a little bit

1049
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 4: more of and you know, help help give a little guidance.

1050
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 4: So I feel like what I'm saying somebody like maybe

1051
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 4: a good candidate. So if y'all see this, listen, look,

1052
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 4: I'm looking for a job.

1053
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: Up next time we do an episode, but we're gonna

1054
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: be axecutive office, your position.

1055
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna pull up into a podcast y'all.

1056
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 4: That that'll be that'll be lit. Yeah, in the jail,

1057
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 4: that would that would be cool.

1058
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: Man. I hope I hope that happened for you though

1059
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: for sure.

1060
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: Man, Like I was saying, man, appreciate you slotting be

1061
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: here and telling people that could buy some March

1062
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: Shop Club five twenty dot com Baby were out, Yes, sir,

1063
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: we're out.