Speaker 1: Check it in, man, and I'm just told the story.
Speaker 1: Now he's done. It's one of those idiots will believe
Speaker 1: in the analytics.
Speaker 2: This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander gone good.
Speaker 3: Monday morning two, there is a numbers game at vs
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Speaker 3: appreciate it's skill, Alexander. This gentleman to my left is
Speaker 3: producer number nine, so much more than a producer. Kelly
Speaker 3: Biddle and everybody, how you doing me?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Was also decided if I carry a
Speaker 1: gold pen makes me look far more studious. Punctu that
Speaker 1: is correct?
Speaker 3: Start doing that? Hey, great than my computer's on the fritz.
Speaker 3: That's a good start. Let's let's uh, this is okay.
Speaker 3: This is We usually do guessing lines on on Mondays
Speaker 3: during the NFL regular season. Obviously the regular season is
Speaker 3: now in the books, so we still we still talk
Speaker 3: about the lines. Obviously that's the whole point of all this. Uh.
Speaker 3: And I did have guesses that I sent you last night,
Speaker 3: but I am aware of the lines now. But we'll
Speaker 3: tell you what the guess was. What the lines are
Speaker 3: where the value is according to this exercise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna ask you something
Speaker 1: in between breaks. Didn't we uh didn't we did? It
Speaker 1: used to be a thing here in Nevada that they
Speaker 1: couldn't post lines until the games schedule was announced, which
Speaker 1: I thought was weird. But then MGM was posting stuff
Speaker 1: immediately yesterday.
Speaker 3: I don't remember that. Is that true?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I might just be making maybe.
Speaker 3: I mean, Christy always waited, my Christy Andrews of the
Speaker 3: South One always waited til we did the show to
Speaker 3: post the lines. But I don't think that had to
Speaker 3: do with Nevada.
Speaker 1: No, I mean like playoffs when they were waiting. So
Speaker 1: like last night, right, we had the big gap before
Speaker 1: games finished and when we knew games were gonna be played.
Speaker 3: So despite knowing the matchups, not knowing the schedules, what
Speaker 3: you're saying correct, Yeah, you could be right. I don't
Speaker 3: remember that, but you could be right. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of things I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Kill wait to derail the show early.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's start again, shall we. Let's get through let's skiore,
Speaker 3: we're off to a fly and start. Let's get through
Speaker 3: the administrative stuff first. We always started out guessing lines
Speaker 3: with survivor up date, survivor obviously done, and the final
Speaker 3: answer of how many people get to chop the pot?
Speaker 3: And I get it. There were probably side chops. There
Speaker 3: were probably there were probably a lot of folks hedging
Speaker 3: on stuff. Regardless of those details, eight officially eight end
Speaker 3: up in the choppity chop chop. Eight of them. One
Speaker 3: point seven eight million dollars is what they all split
Speaker 3: in the end. To be exact on that number, Kelly's
Speaker 3: already in fact checking.
Speaker 1: Me on this.
Speaker 3: It's one point seven eight three million dollars of one million,
Speaker 3: seven hundred eighty three thousand, two hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 3: is what they all chop up. There were eighteen going in.
Speaker 3: Eight eliminated on the falcons, two on the packers. My correct,
Speaker 3: you're looking at me, funny.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, kind of pulling up the winner.
Speaker 3: We forget it's actually eight. Yeah, it's actually eight who finished.
Speaker 3: So out of the fourteen million, two hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: six thousand, eight way chop one million, seven hundred eighty
Speaker 3: three thousand, two hundred fifty dollars. Congratulations to everybody. We
Speaker 3: will obviously get into the details of the eight that
Speaker 3: went down on the Falcons yesterday in overtime to the
Speaker 3: Panthers and then two on the Packers.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen that name Whiskey Business before
Speaker 1: when we've got over contest. It feels like it doesn't
Speaker 1: shout out to all of eight winners. Graduations, got dream Stakes,
Speaker 1: Meatball Brothers. I know they were on the show last night.
Speaker 3: Here in Circa you had a twenty ten money line
Speaker 3: parlay where you didn't get to pick the same team twice.
Speaker 3: It's just awesome, incredible. It's incredible in a year of
Speaker 3: Survivor where the first five weeks were historic carnage, over
Speaker 3: ninety eight percent were eliminated, and then the last stretch
Speaker 3: of the year up until the final two weeks was
Speaker 3: historic stagnation where nobody got eliminated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had. As we often do though, especially when
Speaker 1: these contests come into play. Yeah, I think we always
Speaker 1: go or I always feel like we go into week
Speaker 1: eighteen kind of underselling how much drama we're gonna have
Speaker 1: And oh boy, did will those guys have to suffer
Speaker 1: through a lot yesterday to get home?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, they did. But again, congratulations, what a contest,
Speaker 3: the greatest contest there ever was. And who knows how
Speaker 3: much the pot will be next year? Who knows, certainly
Speaker 3: higher than fourteen million one would anticipate. Okay, then, in
Speaker 3: terms of we've already heard, Dave did a great job
Speaker 3: this morning, Dave Rosst did on by the books of
Speaker 3: going through what was already happened. We knew yesterday Robert
Speaker 3: Kraft barely waited to fire girod Mayo of the You know,
Speaker 3: the Patriots first year coach does not get past the
Speaker 3: night of his final victory of the season, as the
Speaker 3: Patriots finished four and thirteen. And my whole question with
Speaker 3: that always is, if you were going to fire him,
Speaker 3: why did you let him coach the last game? Why'd
Speaker 3: you let him do that? Now he won, and now
Speaker 3: your draft pick is not nearly as good. Instead of
Speaker 3: having the first pick of the draft, you got the
Speaker 3: fourth pick of the draft. I'm not sure that was
Speaker 3: the death knell of all of it. Perhaps it was
Speaker 3: calling his players soft earlier props, it was the body
Speaker 3: of work, but he was gone quick. And then this morning, Kelly,
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: Weird, though, Wait when you make that decision. Clearly they
Speaker 1: had made that decision well in advance yesterday, and I mean,
Speaker 1: how many times are we going to see this play out? Now?
Speaker 1: I mean it's happened multiple times in the past few years.
Speaker 1: When we get these coaches that go out and win
Speaker 1: the final game, you screw up old franchises draft play.
Speaker 3: I think we refer to it as the Lovey Smith
Speaker 3: event happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just to you know, for just saw this a
Speaker 1: little bit before we went, before we came on the show.
Speaker 1: Number one pick odds. You know who's the favorite.
Speaker 3: New I would imagine cam Warden, that's one twenty five favorite.
Speaker 3: Now the Tennessee Titans on the clock with the number
Speaker 3: one pick in the draft. Browns to Giants three. Those
Speaker 3: are all quarterback needy franchises, one would imagine, and the
Speaker 3: Giants get the Booby prize of being third in the end.
Speaker 3: Way to go Giants, Patriots fourth, now, jag Wires five,
Speaker 3: Raiders six, Jets seven, and you see the rest there
Speaker 3: you go up until the Falcons who become or the
Speaker 3: excuse me, the Bengals and Seahawks become the teams they
Speaker 3: get the Booby prizes of best teams to miss the playoffs.
Speaker 3: The seventeen and eighteen, but also this morning Doug Peterson
Speaker 3: fired for the Jacksonville Jaguars as well. We also learned
Speaker 3: that Brian dabol Joe Shane coach and GM respectively for
Speaker 3: the Giants. They stay, as will both coach and GM
Speaker 3: for the Browns, the Colts and the Dolphins. That much
Speaker 3: we know. So there you go on that.
Speaker 1: I don't think any huge surprises there, right.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, day Boll sting and Shane's sting a
Speaker 3: little bit of a surprise to me, not massively so,
Speaker 3: but someone.
Speaker 1: I'm not as surprised as about DA. Shane's a little
Speaker 1: interesting he's coming back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know. I thought Daboll would be
Speaker 3: the first one to go, even though Shane botched the whole.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, they signed sign Daniel Jones and then
Speaker 3: all ensued from there, right, All decision making ensued from there. Okay,
Speaker 3: shall we get into it because I have way too
Speaker 3: much to talk about on this show. Yeah, so many things.
Speaker 3: Let's do these chronologically. It is Super wild Card weekend,
Speaker 3: so you get three on Saturday, no, pardon me, two
Speaker 3: on Saturday, three on Sunday, one on Monday. Let's start
Speaker 3: with Saturday.
Speaker 1: We'll give a new format, all right, Saturday, four to
Speaker 1: thirty Eastern time, Chargers at Texans in their normal playoff
Speaker 1: time slot.
Speaker 3: That was the first reaction to the schedule coming out
Speaker 3: as like, the Houston Texans streak is alive. They have
Speaker 3: been to the postseason eight times, all eight of which
Speaker 3: they get the early Saturday time slot. Tell me your
Speaker 3: franchise is not valued. Without telling me your franchise is
Speaker 3: not that valued. The number five seed Chargers get it done,
Speaker 3: and they get it done because the Steelers lost on
Speaker 3: Saturday to the Bengals. The Chargers beat the Raiders yesterday
Speaker 3: and therefore the Chargers move from the sixth seed to
Speaker 3: the five seed, the coveted five seed to get to
Speaker 3: travel to the Houston Texans. But we talked about last
Speaker 3: week probably the team in the worst form headed into
Speaker 3: the postseason in either conference. Houston started CJ. Stroud yesterday
Speaker 3: for a drive. He was perfect on the drive, six
Speaker 3: or six or fifty yards, got a touchdown pass and
Speaker 3: that was that for CJ. Stroud. It was Davis Mills
Speaker 3: from that point forward again in a line. That was
Speaker 3: the one thing I got right yesterday more than anything,
Speaker 3: which is how were the Titans. How were they favored?
Speaker 3: Over and over they were favored, then it went to
Speaker 3: a pick them, and then before the game they went
Speaker 3: to be favored again, and it's like they still the Titans.
Speaker 3: They're still the Tights, And there were just there was
Speaker 3: decisions in that game that corroborated the handicap, which is
Speaker 3: we're just going to kick a field goal here. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of that.
Speaker 1: I finally joined it. I took a piece of first half,
Speaker 1: so that was good. I was shocked to see it
Speaker 1: over the when it moved back yesterday before the game,
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, like, I gotta get on
Speaker 1: that Texans here, like at least a little bit.
Speaker 3: So I guessed here Chargers minus two and a half
Speaker 3: on the road at Houston, and the line ended.
Speaker 1: Up being, yeah, it's three pretty much everywhere right now.
Speaker 1: There were two and a half's out there yesterday when
Speaker 1: this first opened. But yeah, it is basically blanket three.
Speaker 3: Least exciting game from a fan standpoint. I mean, they're
Speaker 3: all exciting, but if you had to rank them least exciting, oh.
Speaker 1: Good question. I hadn't thought about that.
Speaker 3: Remember, they receive in the NFL, so we don't know
Speaker 3: necessarily who the winner plays.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with no, because I expect one of
Speaker 1: these other games to be a blowout. So it's fine.
Speaker 1: If you prefer closer games between two teams and arn't
Speaker 1: is good, then yeah, I don't think this is the
Speaker 1: least exciting.
Speaker 3: Let me let me go through some some rando, just
Speaker 3: some rando notes. These these qualify as just interesting stats,
Speaker 3: interesting notions from what happened, but it ties into what
Speaker 3: the Chargers did this year. You tell me which of
Speaker 3: these is interesting to you or not. Maybe maybe none
Speaker 3: of them are, maybe all of them are. Hardest strength
Speaker 3: of schedule this year. This is of the fourteen playoff
Speaker 3: teamskay hardest strength of schedule, with all of a sudden
Speaker 3: done green Bay five point thirty three opponent aggregate win percentage.
Speaker 3: A lot of that has to do with the fact
Speaker 3: that they play the Lions twice and the Vikings twice,
Speaker 3: and that's a fifteen and two and a fourteen and three,
Speaker 3: and we'll obviously get to that game. Easiest strength of
Speaker 3: schedule ended up being Washington for thirty six opponent aggregate.
Speaker 3: Now that's the strength of schedule. How about strength of victory?
Speaker 3: These are the best and the worst of the fourteen
Speaker 3: playoff teams in terms of the aggregate win percentage of
Speaker 3: those that you ended up beating the hardest or the
Speaker 3: best strength of victory best strength of victory Baltimore five
Speaker 3: twenty five worst, the LA Chargers three forty eight. This
Speaker 3: team feasted on crap yep. So, for all the hype,
Speaker 3: which is justified on Jim Harbus's first season, by the way,
Speaker 3: shout out to Matt Eumans, because he got this team
Speaker 3: more right than anybody before the season started. When he
Speaker 3: was strong on the over. It was the schedule right
Speaker 3: more than anything. It was the schedule now justin Herbert's awesome,
Speaker 3: no question about that. But just keep that in the
Speaker 3: back of your mind that this was a team that
Speaker 3: feasted more than any other playoff team in terms of
Speaker 3: their victories on poor competition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I think this is a really
Speaker 1: tough game to bet a side on. I did bet.
Speaker 1: I bet the total. I bet under forty four yesterday.
Speaker 1: I think we with how good the Texans defenses playing
Speaker 1: them at home, I think it's gonna be a tough
Speaker 1: task for either one of these quarterbacks to put a
Speaker 1: big number. So I bet the under. As far as
Speaker 1: side goes gil Man, it'd have to be Texans or passed.
Speaker 1: I still think this is a lot. I didn't bet anything,
Speaker 1: but man, this for the Charges to be laying a
Speaker 1: full three on the road, I'm a little bit surprised
Speaker 1: by it.
Speaker 3: I don't love this game either way. On the side,
Speaker 3: A lot of the reason having to do with what
Speaker 3: you know, who did the Charges necessarily beat the Texans
Speaker 3: look at the worst with apologies to their performance yesterday,
Speaker 3: which was fine against a crappy team in the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3: But it's not a game I gravitate towards on the side. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm with you, with you, we will get to the
Speaker 3: other games, of course, more little factoids from the season
Speaker 3: that you may find interesting or not. You be the judge.
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Speaker 3: one fifty eight on Serious XM. Let's go and Now, Kelly,
Speaker 3: when all your friends finally asked, this is a very
Speaker 3: personal note from almost when your friends ask you, Hey,
Speaker 3: where where can I hear you? We can say simply serious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and shout out to YouTube TV. Though I say,
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of it from a viewing perspective,
Speaker 1: I have gotten that answer a lot more than I've
Speaker 1: maybe expected over the past nine months to.
Speaker 3: A year, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: But yes, listening back on Serious XM, I know you
Speaker 1: and I are pumped. We were both here obviously, you
Speaker 1: from the beginning and me as well. Joined when we
Speaker 1: were on Serious XM. So be excited to be returning
Speaker 1: Patrick Dustin. Awesome to see them back on Mad Dog
Speaker 1: Stomping Ground, that's their old Stomping Grounds, old show. I
Speaker 1: loved their show they did on Mad Dog. It was
Speaker 1: one of those shows that would talk about I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously we're all talking gambling now, but they were talking
Speaker 1: about gambling a little, you know, before Paspa and everything
Speaker 1: was repealed. It was great to drive round at night
Speaker 1: listen to those guys talking about making live bets and
Speaker 1: stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Patrick was kind. They were both kind enough to
Speaker 3: have me on that old show once upon a time.
Speaker 3: And it was awkward because at one point I told
Speaker 3: him that my girlfriend really enjoys him, and it just
Speaker 3: sort of went off off from there.
Speaker 1: Big start, we'll.
Speaker 3: Invite me back, I don't know. All right, Let's go
Speaker 3: to game number two on Saturday, A right.
Speaker 1: Game number two Saturday nights, and we have Steelers at Ravens.
Speaker 3: Steelers at Ravens one of these great rivalries in sports.
Speaker 3: At least it used to be. Steelers end the season
Speaker 3: with four straight losses. We always knew the gauntlet was there.
Speaker 3: That was part of the handicap of the Steelers going
Speaker 3: under their season win total. We know that didn't happen.
Speaker 3: That Mike Tomlin magic beamed him his way into another
Speaker 3: winning season, his eighteenth consecutive season without having a losing season,
Speaker 3: to be more precise, But they do lose four in
Speaker 3: a row. At the end, they lose to Cincinnati on Saturday.
Speaker 3: One hundred and ninety three total yards of offense for
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers on Saturday against the now eliminated Bengals
Speaker 3: as well, but the Bengals didn't know that at the time.
Speaker 3: And then there's Baltimore who beats Cleveland thirty five to ten.
Speaker 3: If you were on the Cleveland side of that twenty
Speaker 3: point spread, you deserved better. Baltimore mark covers and they
Speaker 3: become the AFC North champs with that win. That's what
Speaker 3: got them the three seed. Pittsburgh by virtue of their loss,
Speaker 3: and the Chargers win yesterday end up in the sixth slot,
Speaker 3: so they have to travel to Baltimore. And Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 3: by the way, we'll get into an MVP talk later
Speaker 3: later in the week, I'm sure, but he ends the
Speaker 3: season with the fifth highest rated, fifth highest passer rating
Speaker 3: in a season in NFL history one nineteen point sixty three,
Speaker 3: first ever with forty plus touchdown passes and fewer than
Speaker 3: five interceptions forty one and four, first ever with four
Speaker 3: thousand yards passing in eight hundred yards rushing forty one
Speaker 3: seventy two and nine fifteen, and led the NFL in
Speaker 3: touchdown percentage, yards per attempt, air yards per attempt, on
Speaker 3: and on and on. So I said, you know the
Speaker 3: thing about this spread, Kelly, is that they played two
Speaker 3: weeks ago in Baltimore, right, so we kind of I
Speaker 3: believe that was seven. So this time pass. Oh, say,
Speaker 3: I had it at seven. So this to me was
Speaker 3: anyway between seven and a half and nine and a
Speaker 3: half per my rankings, because I've had Baltimore as my
Speaker 3: number one ranked team for a long time and I've
Speaker 3: had Pittsburgh at the bottom of the top ten. For me,
Speaker 3: it was probably like nine of It's somewhere between seven
Speaker 3: and a half and nine and a half. But I
Speaker 3: thought the guess that I had was seven and a half.
Speaker 3: It ended up being more what I thought it would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're I'm just trying to look nine. I think
Speaker 1: was mainly the opener were nine and a half basically
Speaker 1: everywhere right now, which I don't know about you, I
Speaker 1: think makes a lot of sense from a book perspective,
Speaker 1: just to keep it out a teaser range, because Tete
Speaker 1: teezer options this week.
Speaker 3: Teaser protection.
Speaker 1: That's what that is.
Speaker 3: I only have one thing to say from that Baltimore game,
Speaker 3: and it's not the the Michael Pierce interception at the end,
Speaker 3: which was hilarious and everybody wish he didn't take a
Speaker 3: knee and that he kept running. Can I just this
Speaker 3: is this has nothing to do with betting, but the
Speaker 3: Browns touchdown drive when they eventually got their you know,
Speaker 3: one touchdown of the game. There was a play earlier
Speaker 3: in that drive, a few plays earlier, where Jamari Thrash
Speaker 3: looked like he had scored a touchdown. He caught the
Speaker 3: ball outside of the end zone. He then crossed the
Speaker 3: plane and then got the ball knocked out of his hands. Okay,
Speaker 3: and it it went to review and they ruled no touchdown.
Speaker 3: And the explanation given is three things have to happen.
Speaker 3: You have to uh. I don't know what the three
Speaker 3: things are, but the third thing that didn't happen was
Speaker 3: you have to you know, go three steps to the ground, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: I get the explanation. Am I the only one though,
Speaker 3: who was completely fooled by this? That I believe?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: What has always been the case is that the goal
Speaker 3: line is some kind of magic plane. I have actually
Speaker 3: had conversations with Mike Carrey, remember former NFL at official
Speaker 3: night carry at the MIT Sloan Sports Conference. I get
Speaker 3: this was twelve years ago, where I talked to him
Speaker 3: about a specific play. It was in the Super Bowl
Speaker 3: that the Saints were in. You remember the Super Bowl
Speaker 3: where the Saints b Peyton Manning and the Colts. There
Speaker 3: was a two point conversion in that game where Lance
Speaker 3: Moore caught the ball from Drew Brees. He was outside
Speaker 3: of the end zone. He turned around and the ball
Speaker 3: went over the plane.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: He came back out and the ball was knocked out
Speaker 3: of his hands and it was ruled because he crossed
Speaker 3: the plane that it was still a touch. That was
Speaker 3: still a two point conversion. To me, if you're in
Speaker 3: the end zone. This is how they've always, at least
Speaker 3: to my understanding, how they've always called it is if
Speaker 3: you're in the end zone, right, And I always talked
Speaker 3: about how this this inconsistency made no sense. But let's
Speaker 3: say you're six yards in the end zone, Kelly and
Speaker 3: I throw a teeth.
Speaker 1: There are different rules.
Speaker 3: You catch it right for a second and then someone
Speaker 3: knocks it out of your hands, that's not a catch.
Speaker 3: But if you catch it outside of the end zone,
Speaker 3: you cross the plane and then it gets knocked down.
Speaker 3: That to me was always ruled a touchdown. And so
Speaker 3: after I'm just saying, there's nothing to do with betting.
Speaker 3: But after watching that on Saturday, I'm like, I have
Speaker 3: no idea about anything.
Speaker 1: It's another one of those I'll get it. It's what
Speaker 1: do we always what do we always say? We thought
Speaker 1: we knew. You know, thirty years ago you knew what
Speaker 1: a catch was. You know, you're a kid, you know what.
Speaker 1: Please tell me mine eyes, tell me forget the That's
Speaker 1: how they've ruled it before. Caught the ball, take two
Speaker 1: steps and I crossed the plane. I was more concerned
Speaker 1: when you first brought it, or when I first saw it.
Speaker 1: It was one of those. It was one of those, Okay,
Speaker 1: is this going to be a catch and a touchdown?
Speaker 1: A catch, a fumble? And then the ball goes out
Speaker 1: of the end zone and it's a touchback the stupidest
Speaker 1: rule in sports, or is it an incomplete pass? And
Speaker 1: it's it's just another example of I don't know what
Speaker 1: it catches anymore.
Speaker 3: That that was. That was one of the few things
Speaker 3: that I wanted to talk about, like, well, look, I
Speaker 3: don't get that was Why was the thrash touchdown not
Speaker 3: a touchdown? Also observations of yesterday. Do the Titans wear
Speaker 3: throwback oilers jerseys when playing the Texans to troll them?
Speaker 3: Why did they keep doing that? Why do they keep
Speaker 3: why do they put throwback oilers jerseys on when the Titans?
Speaker 3: We did literally like your team left town and we're
Speaker 3: gonna mock you for it.
Speaker 1: Okay, we did. This was a story earlier in the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they're just trolling them now.
Speaker 3: This is I would be irate, Like if a team
Speaker 3: left town. I know that, I get it they have
Speaker 3: the Texans now, but like that would drive me crazy.
Speaker 3: The other thing is, and I've meant to say this
Speaker 3: all through college football season, when did every college marching
Speaker 3: band decide that they were gonna play cameos talking out
Speaker 3: the side of your neck? Do you know that riff
Speaker 3: they play someone who knows what I'm talking about. Get
Speaker 3: back to me on that. Let me go back to
Speaker 3: like the sort of factoids here before we move on
Speaker 3: to another game, and you tell me if you find
Speaker 3: any of these these are just facts and like interesting
Speaker 3: things from the NFL season stats, if you will. We
Speaker 3: already talked about hardest strength of schedule, best strength of
Speaker 3: victory the Green Bay Packers Kelly five and zero versus
Speaker 3: the AFC this year, six and six in conference, one
Speaker 3: in five versus their division. Yeah, one in five versus.
Speaker 1: Their it's a tough division. Man.
Speaker 3: Again, they had the strongest strength of schedule of of
Speaker 3: all the teams that made the playoffs. We talked about
Speaker 3: this one before. Three teams this year did not score
Speaker 3: more than thirty points in any game this season, the
Speaker 3: New England Patriots, the Las Vegas Raiders, and the fifteen
Speaker 3: to two Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: It's wild.
Speaker 3: That's a great one. San Francisco forty nine ers combined
Speaker 3: CMC iuke debo touchdowns last year, combined McCaffrey, AUK and
Speaker 3: debo touchdowns last year, forty this year combined McCaffrey, au
Speaker 3: Can debo touchdowns four. That's the only stat you needed
Speaker 3: before the season to know how this was good.
Speaker 1: There was definitely a moment yesterday during that game watching
Speaker 1: the bits and pieces that Niners game. I don't know
Speaker 1: about you. I just shook my head multiple times from
Speaker 1: like how is this? How did they finish with six wins?
Speaker 1: Like this is it? Shocked?
Speaker 3: As Jus Jobs throws for over three hundred and there's
Speaker 3: like multiple franchises they can't use him. Okay, By the way,
Speaker 3: the Niners also have made the have made at least
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship, or missed the playoffs entirely. Now for
Speaker 3: twenty one straight seasons. Wow, that's bizarro. Yeah, you either
Speaker 3: make it all the way to the doorstep of the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl or you missed the playoffs entirely for twenty
Speaker 3: one straight seasons. It's incredible. Washington who only ended up
Speaker 3: two games worse than Minnesota and Philadelphia, which is just amazing.
Speaker 3: As much as we canonize those two franchises, this year,
Speaker 3: Washington ends up twelve and five. The Commandos have played
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay or Seattle every playoffs they've gotten into except
Speaker 3: once since the season after they won their last Super
Speaker 3: Bowl back in January of nineteen ninety three. Gibbs that
Speaker 3: every time the Skins have made the playoffs since Gibbs
Speaker 3: is last year that Gibbs one point oh the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl years, they have played either Tampa Bay or Seattle
Speaker 3: in a historical sort of you know, weirdness thing every
Speaker 3: time except once that they've gotten to the Postseas. No,
Speaker 3: they only gotten there sixty six sis, but it's still
Speaker 3: weird that you end up playing either Tampa Bay or Seattle.
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Speaker 3: you parlayed division winners? On June twenty seventh, completely forgot
Speaker 3: anything about doing that and wake up to a twenty
Speaker 3: to one payout because the Lions won. But you were
Speaker 3: mad last night that the Lions won. That's my day.
Speaker 3: So far our situation only betters No, that's all good
Speaker 3: for you man twenty to one, Kevin Ryan Gil Sam
Speaker 3: Darnold certainly played himself out of a big money extension
Speaker 3: last night. But am I the only? Am I the
Speaker 3: only one? Last night? I thought McCarthy was the water boy.
Speaker 3: The Sam Donald thing is interesting, Kevin, because it does
Speaker 3: you know what the Vikings end up doing with him
Speaker 3: visa VI JJ. McCarthy will come down, probably to what
Speaker 3: they do in the postseason now as the only as
Speaker 3: the first ever fourteen win wild card team, as the
Speaker 3: Lions become the ninth team to win fifteen games in
Speaker 3: NFL history, think about that separation, Hey, congratulations lines to
Speaker 3: that when you're the ninth team to win fifteen games,
Speaker 3: here's your number one seed, Hey, Vikings, you know that
Speaker 3: fourteen win season. Yeah, you're the first ever fourteen win
Speaker 3: wild card and you get to travel to the Rams.
Speaker 3: Good luck to you. So I do think that Sam
Speaker 3: Darnold's fate will largely be tied into that, as superficial
Speaker 3: as that might seem after his great season, But when
Speaker 3: it comes to Comeback Player of the Year Kelly Bidlin,
Speaker 3: I actually think that hurt him last night because there
Speaker 3: is something about a standalone primetime game and.
Speaker 1: A game with all the stakes. Yeah, where these votes.
Speaker 3: Some of these voters are going to vote now on this, right,
Speaker 3: it's a regular season award. That's their last memory.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got some tweets and texts and you're you're right.
Speaker 1: It probably will matter. It shouldn't matter. I mean that
Speaker 1: was the whole omit to.
Speaker 3: Some degree, but it should matter, you know, fractionally.
Speaker 1: But it'll not matter at all because he shouldn't qualify
Speaker 1: for the That's what I'm saying. That shouldn't matter at
Speaker 1: all because he should not qualify for the awards. Get
Speaker 1: angry as far as Minnesota Darnald next year, it might
Speaker 1: be the only one. I feel like I'm the only
Speaker 1: one it's saying this, But I actually think it's pretty easy.
Speaker 1: Like you franchised Darnalds. Like, I know you're paying big
Speaker 1: money for one year, but why are you really ready
Speaker 1: to commit long term to San Donald? No, I wouldn't be,
Speaker 1: but I'm also not ready to let him just walk away.
Speaker 1: And you have no idea what you have in a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. So franchise. Then you got two quarterbacks next
Speaker 1: year to battle and figure it out. And Sam Donald. Look,
Speaker 1: we've seen this, We've seen this this year in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Put a little pressure on some of these guys to
Speaker 1: go out there and put that amazing. Heyy oh Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson's a good quarterback again.
Speaker 3: Wow, don't give him three seconds to pass. Look, look
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Speaker 3: On a related note, I hope when Jake Retzlaf wins
Speaker 3: a college football playoff game next year that he recites
Speaker 3: his entire tour aportion. I say that on behalf of
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Speaker 3: eight Circus Survivor winners one point seven eight million each.
Speaker 3: Hear people say it's just a twenty team money line rollover.
Speaker 3: We didn't say justice which say it's amazing. He said,
Speaker 3: computed two of the paths, and yep it is. If
Speaker 3: you want to lower return and no blue jacket, pody up,
Speaker 3: the one can embrace the sweat. What he's saying is
Speaker 3: that if you did a twenty team moneyline parlay, you
Speaker 3: would only win one hundred eighty thousand as opposed to
Speaker 3: one point seven eight in the chop.
Speaker 1: You always described it that way just to describe how
Speaker 1: difficult that is to get that how much money.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not trying to equate the two. Jonathan Doe.
Speaker 3: Kelly's hair is now so long that he now is
Speaker 3: a part on right side of his head looking good.
Speaker 1: Kelly, I've just kind of styled it a little bit differently.
Speaker 1: It's not actually that long, though, it's deceiving.
Speaker 3: Is that true that you changed the part side?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Not, okay. I was gonna say ben handor ben handor
Speaker 3: if the chargers facing on crap. Now there's a visual
Speaker 3: to start our Monday morning. Lol. Sorry about that, Ben,
Speaker 3: Dave Christopher love that my Falcons continue to set a
Speaker 3: new NFL first, first team in NFL history to lose
Speaker 3: two straight overtime games without touching the pall without touching
Speaker 3: the ball. Good grief, Sorry, survivors. Yeah, let me just
Speaker 3: say this that Week eighteen the NFL, at least the
Speaker 3: early window yesterday proved to be awesome because we ended
Speaker 3: up having the Bucks Falcons, who's gonna win the NFC
Speaker 3: South and make and make or miss the playoffs happening concurrently,
Speaker 3: and we had the seating between the Commanders and the Packers,
Speaker 3: who's gonna end up six or seven happening concurrently. That
Speaker 3: was awesome. But yes, the Falcons. At one point, the
Speaker 3: Bucks were way down to the Saints, but then they overcame,
Speaker 3: and the Falcons knew they were going to be out
Speaker 3: of the playoffs if they saw the scoreboard, but they
Speaker 3: didn't know that eight survivors were on the line, eight
Speaker 3: survivor entries, so that was the whole thing. So that
Speaker 3: part was awesome. But yes, you know, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: If you're the Falcons, Michael Pennix, looks great. You have
Speaker 3: that to at least hang your add on moving forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he looks good. This is look I know
Speaker 1: we give a I know Red Zone gets a lot
Speaker 1: of credit throughout the throughout the year. I thought yesterday
Speaker 1: was one of their best. Brazons, handsOn, the producers, directors,
Speaker 1: everybody involved in that show, because they spent the right
Speaker 1: amount of time on the games that matter and the
Speaker 1: ones that did not matter. It was pushed to the side.
Speaker 1: Will work in when we need to.
Speaker 3: Let's go to Sunday. Let's get on in all right.
Speaker 1: Sunday one Eastern Broncos at.
Speaker 3: Bills, number seven seed, Denver Broncos at the number two
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. The Bills, who they got Josh Allen his start.
Speaker 3: He didn't play one drive, He played one snap to
Speaker 3: get his streak to one hundred and fifteen consecutive games
Speaker 3: starting at quarterback. So good on, Josh Allen's good on.
Speaker 1: No, I don't me either, actually like that, because they're
Speaker 1: only I feel like I've seen some people have an issue. Nah,
Speaker 1: it's you're you're only you're not playing in this game
Speaker 1: because you don't have to play in this game. But
Speaker 1: you could have to play in this game if you
Speaker 1: were in someone else's shoes. So let them take a snap,
Speaker 1: extend the street.
Speaker 3: It's favra esque. It's at farv esque on the field stuff,
Speaker 3: not off the field, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: the Bills and they Bills, and the Bills end up
Speaker 3: losing the Patriots, which is more of a Patriot story
Speaker 3: than it is a Bill story because the Bills were
Speaker 3: locked into the number two position while the Patriots messed
Speaker 3: up their draft position. Denver, and by the way, I
Speaker 3: couldn't have been more wrong about this Chiefs thing. It
Speaker 3: took one drive maybe two to realize, Oh I should
Speaker 3: have seen this coming. The Chiefs could not care less,
Speaker 3: Like I really was convinced the Chiefs were going to
Speaker 3: cover this spread. And I'm just like, oh, this is
Speaker 3: so wrong. So quickly the Chiefs just laying down. Denver
Speaker 3: crushes them. They scored to make it seven to nothing
Speaker 3: on the first drive, Nicks to Mims for thirty two.
Speaker 3: Then after Kansas City three and out, Denver went ten
Speaker 3: Blaze eighty five yards. First drive was six and seventy,
Speaker 3: this one was ten and eighty five, Knicks to Sutton
Speaker 3: for ten. Set up by Nicks to Sutton for forty
Speaker 3: seven two plays earlier fourteen to nothing, then another Kansas
Speaker 3: City three and out, then eighty nine yard drive Knicks
Speaker 3: to Devon Valet off two deflections, twenty one to nothing,
Speaker 3: and the route was on thirty eight to nothing. Is
Speaker 3: the final, by the way, let me just say this
Speaker 3: because the only thing to say about this game is
Speaker 3: that third touchdown that made it twenty one to nothing.
Speaker 3: This was the double deflection from Nicks to Devon Vala.
Speaker 1: That that was touchdown.
Speaker 3: And I just, ladies, gentlemen, by request a Jim Nance
Speaker 3: Tony Romo opera for your listening entertainment. I actually went
Speaker 3: back and transcribed this.
Speaker 1: Oh good, text you.
Speaker 3: This just took an a nordon amount of time, but
Speaker 3: I did anyway, Nance with the perfect call, roll it
Speaker 3: out looking looking for the rookie ball tipped in. God,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, the double deflection in a Denver touchdown.
Speaker 3: And now, ladies and gentlemen, pregnant pause Tony Romo in
Speaker 3: the moment. I know it's incredible, but I think he
Speaker 3: might have been out of bounds. Oh man, I don't
Speaker 3: want it because you had such a great call. But
Speaker 3: let's see if A Denver. Let's see if Troutman touches
Speaker 3: it before right there, does he touch the ball. If
Speaker 3: he doesn't touch it, it's gonna stand. Does that touch No,
Speaker 3: it's gonna stand. Thanks, Tony, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We already knew it with a lot more.
Speaker 3: I don't know. The best part was the best part was,
Speaker 3: I know it's incredible, but I think this is with
Speaker 3: all the pauses. I know it's incredible, but I think
Speaker 3: he might have been out of bounds. Oh man, I
Speaker 3: don't want it because he had such a great call.
Speaker 3: But let's see. And here's here's the killer goes If
Speaker 3: a Denver, he like goes really soft, like Okay.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I forgot to text you. I was
Speaker 1: dying laughing when I heard that yesterday. It looks like
Speaker 1: he's playing it into the bit now, almost like it's
Speaker 1: just the guy who does the impressions of him. It
Speaker 1: feels like Rono was trying to copy him now.
Speaker 3: A caricature of himself. Denver, with the win, clinches the
Speaker 3: number seven position, of course, in the AFC playoffs. Cincinnati's
Speaker 3: went on Saturday created a situation yesterday where Denver Denver
Speaker 3: still had to you know, Denver one, they were in
Speaker 3: no matter what. But had Denver lost this the order was, hey,
Speaker 3: then Miami would get in with a win. If both
Speaker 3: Denver and Miami lost, Cincinnati would win, would get the
Speaker 3: seventh position by virtue of their win on Saturday. By
Speaker 3: the way, just the fact that Miami was still alive.
Speaker 3: The biggest upset going into Week eighteen was that the
Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins still had a shot to make the playoffs,
Speaker 3: and not even a remote one. They just needed a
Speaker 3: Bronco's loss and a Dolphins win, neither of which happened,
Speaker 3: by the way, But I'm just saying, I don't remember
Speaker 3: a year going into the final week where we talked
Speaker 3: less about a football team than we did about the
Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Also, like five weeks ago, I think I would have
Speaker 1: been shocked to say I'd rather see the Broncos in
Speaker 1: than the Dolphins in.
Speaker 3: But oh gosh, Tyreek Hill already thrown a tantrum on
Speaker 3: social media thing he's done. Yeah, well, it's not up
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: I said Buffalo minus eight and a half, and I
Speaker 3: ended up being a little low on that.
Speaker 1: So this opened seven and a half. I betted at
Speaker 1: seven and a half late seven and a half with
Speaker 1: the Bills, it is out to eight and a half
Speaker 1: nine right now, eight and a half nine.
Speaker 3: And I don't think anybody would argue with that.
Speaker 1: No, No, though I feel like i'm I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm hear in early support for the Broncos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of the big dogs, you think that, I mean
Speaker 3: talking about Pittsburgh and Denver. You think Denver is the
Speaker 3: more likely to cover?
Speaker 1: I mean, I bet the Bills. So no, yes, Denver
Speaker 1: more likely than Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, more games to get to Super wild
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Speaker 3: playing since I was in school thirty years ago. I
Speaker 3: wonder how many people know the song what I was
Speaker 3: referring to earlier. Every college football marching band plays the
Speaker 3: rift to cameos mid eighties hit talking out the side
Speaker 3: of your neck. You know what I'm talking about, goes, I.
Speaker 1: Please keep going.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's all I got.
Speaker 1: I would like you to do the entire section.
Speaker 3: That's the word section. John B. Stringfellow Hawk knows I'm
Speaker 3: talking about John B. Great call on Bo Nicks to
Speaker 3: lead rookie quarterbacks in passing yards. He got that eight
Speaker 3: to one. Good on you, John B. World b Free.
Speaker 3: I played the Vikings to make the playoffs a three
Speaker 3: to one, while the Broncos ticket was plus seven to ninety.
Speaker 1: Peyton for Coach of the Year.
Speaker 3: By the way, we're throwing about this around, uh yesterday.
Speaker 3: Does that game last night hurt Kevin O'Connell for coaching
Speaker 3: the I don't think it should. Okay, you're still fourteen
Speaker 3: and three with Sam Darnold. We talked about this on Friday.
Speaker 3: We both said no, it would not matter, and I
Speaker 3: did say unless it's a blowout.
Speaker 1: It feels like it might end up mattered a bit
Speaker 1: more than I was expecting.
Speaker 3: When we get to that game, I would like to
Speaker 3: make a case that it wasn't as bad as as
Speaker 3: it seemed.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 3: In other words, I get at the final scores a
Speaker 3: blowout and the Lions ran them out the building in
Speaker 3: the last quarter and a half. But literally, like that
Speaker 3: game should not have been a blowout.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't have been as bad as it was. A
Speaker 1: real quick Friday football invitation. Chuck edel with the winner
Speaker 1: this year, so congratulations to him. Alex White comes in second,
Speaker 1: A like's way to go. Chris Fulka will take home
Speaker 1: third if Montana State covers against North Dakota State tonight.
Speaker 1: Allegedly is that a game tonight. Who is that you mentioned? Chris?
Speaker 3: Who was that Chris Filica, Chris Filie. I don't know
Speaker 3: that name.
Speaker 1: The bear used to do a show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, okay, give me the hook. Jeff g seventy
Speaker 3: three out of one hundred. Oh, this is he's tweeting
Speaker 3: the top one hundred most watched US broadcast of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four, seventy three of the top one hundred National
Speaker 3: Football League games. So for anybody who thought that the
Speaker 3: NFL ain't king, there you go.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna guess that's down. Gil. Oh
Speaker 1: you think it was more than seventy three. No, No,
Speaker 1: I think that in previously five years ago, it's actually
Speaker 1: more than Yeah. Well, it's usually it's a lot.
Speaker 3: Of enough time on your hands, Kelly billins some research.
Speaker 1: On I've got so many tabs pulled open already.
Speaker 3: I gave.
Speaker 1: I gave Gil the full breakdown of the Houston Oilers
Speaker 1: throwback uniforms.
Speaker 3: That'll give him, that'll keep him busy. Jason Stark, Hey
Speaker 3: Gill and Kelly Steelers Jason Stark's big Steelers fan. He
Speaker 3: didn't like the fact that I said they ended with
Speaker 3: a whimper. Apparently with four losses. He said, Steelers with
Speaker 3: a tough end of season, but still we're eleven and
Speaker 3: six against the spread over their season win total and
Speaker 3: made the playoffs a three to one. Very profitable season
Speaker 3: for Steelers Betters, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: They were awesome, Jill and I paid for it. Yes,
Speaker 1: we did.
Speaker 3: Only team to have winning record ats last three years
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Okay, I get it already, Steve the Proxy.
Speaker 1: Also, Jason, Jason knows what he's doing every time now too.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tomlin's awesome.
Speaker 3: We were wrong, Brian Morinn. And what level of yrony
Speaker 3: would it be of Denver somehow knocks off Buffalo and
Speaker 3: then case after Casey laid down, allowing them to get in.
Speaker 3: Oh that would be more than ironic, that would be amazing.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, oh yeah, I've said this before a lot.
Speaker 3: It's more set just coincidences, not hier any. She got
Speaker 3: it all wrong. She needs to change the song. Steve
Speaker 3: the Prox, Steve the Prox, I don't know if I
Speaker 3: don't know if I can read that. Ben Handorf, Gilly,
Speaker 3: I've been mentally disagreeing with you about the Lamar versus
Speaker 3: allan MVP debate, But I see the light now, a
Speaker 3: historic season from Lamar and all measures should give him
Speaker 3: the award, but it goes to Alan because voters are
Speaker 3: fatigued by Jackson's greatness. Yeah, that that that could be it, right,
Speaker 3: It could just be that in the end.
Speaker 1: It very much could be. It's like having ten thousand
Speaker 1: spoons when all you need is a knife.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's what I said the other day. The hell
Speaker 3: are you talking about? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Just all the ridiculous lines?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's one of them. Next game, what
Speaker 3: do we got on Sunday? Triple header Sunday?
Speaker 1: By the way, do you like this schedule?
Speaker 3: I do. I love it. I am a little annoyed
Speaker 3: Saturday morning, but I know that the reward for having
Speaker 3: an empty morning is that then you just get a
Speaker 3: CA advocative game.
Speaker 1: My only change would be the Saturday games. I'd like
Speaker 1: to slide a little earlier, but like I feel it
Speaker 1: like that takes you out of traditional football time spots.
Speaker 1: And then this is this is.
Speaker 3: Arguably the greatest weekend that's ever coming. The two semi
Speaker 3: finals in college football followed by this super.
Speaker 1: Wild right arguably best football weekend ever, Broncos at Bills.
Speaker 1: Where did he did that?
Speaker 4: One?
Speaker 1: We did? You're right? Four to thirty Eastern Packers at Eagles.
Speaker 3: He's got one job. The seventh seeded Packers, the number
Speaker 3: two ceeded Eagles. Eagles took care of the Giants yesterday.
Speaker 3: This is interesting because we do think Jalen Hurts is
Speaker 3: playing right. Yeah, right, Because here's the thing about concussions. Right,
Speaker 3: with other injuries, you can say, oh, it's two to
Speaker 3: three weeks, Oh it's day to day, Oh it's whatever.
Speaker 3: A concussion, you don't know, you pass everything. He's definitely
Speaker 3: playing for sure Green Bay yesterday. Can I again, this
Speaker 3: had to do with two survivors? Also, we had the Packers.
Speaker 3: This is one game I do want to go through.
Speaker 1: Okay, so real quick to your point about that though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did not practice at all last week.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So and he has to log what is it, four
Speaker 1: practices or whatever to work his way through the concussion protocol.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's potentially the biggest story of any
Speaker 3: correct that nobody's talking that nobody's really talking about, Like
Speaker 3: we're just assuming he's playing. Jalen Hurts okay. Green Bay
Speaker 3: loses to the Bears. Bear snapped their ten game losing streak.
Speaker 3: Mazletoe to the Bears. Bear score first when they put
Speaker 3: two punt returners back, one on each side of the field.
Speaker 3: One acts like it's coming to him. The punk coverage
Speaker 3: team doesn't look for the ball, so they just assume
Speaker 3: that that guy's getting it.
Speaker 1: Love this and then it.
Speaker 3: Goes to the other side of the field. Josh Blackwell
Speaker 3: jogs ninety four yards of the house.
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it.
Speaker 3: Tried and true Gray one. By the way, I'm so
Speaker 3: glad more teams are using the hook and lateral now
Speaker 3: because it's just impossible to stop. Fourteen to three, Chicago.
Speaker 3: Love hurts his elbow. Jordan Love hurts his elbow and
Speaker 3: has to leave the game. Malik willis in not to return.
Speaker 3: Will came in seven play sixty three yards. Jacobsons from nine,
Speaker 3: cut it to fourteen at fourteen thirteen. At a half time,
Speaker 3: the Bears lead. Let's go to the second half. Green
Speaker 3: Bay fourth and three at the Chicago thirty seven. They
Speaker 3: go for it. They fail read two yard loss. Then
Speaker 3: Chicago eight play sixty one yards. Caleb DJ Moore for
Speaker 3: thirty two mostly yak touchdown twenty to thirteen Bears. They
Speaker 3: decide to go for two. They fail, but there's a
Speaker 3: defensive hold so they get the ball to one. You
Speaker 3: know what they say after that, let's just kick an
Speaker 3: extra point. What it's like, what are we doing? I
Speaker 3: don't even know we even.
Speaker 1: Know who's on the broadcast. But good call, because they
Speaker 1: were calling it just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: That's sure, Sure you went for it at the tube,
Speaker 3: but now you're kicking other one great twenty one to
Speaker 3: thirteen Bears, ten oh two left okay. Later green Bay
Speaker 3: four plays fifty one yards, Willis to Heath for forty one,
Speaker 3: then Emmanuel Wilson for twenty one. Twenty one to nineteen Bears.
Speaker 3: Two point try fails when the ball just slips out
Speaker 3: of Willis's hand. Four twenty eight left Chicago with Love
Speaker 3: warming up. Now the drama between green Bay and Washington
Speaker 3: because Jordan Love is now like, you know, like Willis
Speaker 3: Reid thing warming up on the bench, like, oh, he's
Speaker 3: gonna come because now they see Washington's losing the Dallas.
Speaker 3: We can get the six s eight.
Speaker 1: Oh boy did he sprint out of the locker room too,
Speaker 1: like at some point I saw him running on the side.
Speaker 1: What's Jordan Love doing?
Speaker 3: He never came back. Chicago first and twenty at their
Speaker 3: own forty seven, one to fifty five left. Remember they're
Speaker 3: nursing a two point lead. They're trying to just run clock.
Speaker 3: Caleb to dj Moore, hit by Carrington Valadine. Fumbles were
Speaker 3: covered by Javon Bullard. Green Bay set up at the
Speaker 3: Chicago forty three one forty nine left. Love does not
Speaker 3: enter the game. It's Willis still in. With one thirty
Speaker 3: one left in the game, the Packers run the ball
Speaker 3: on second and four instead of draining all the clock
Speaker 3: and using one of their three timeouts, the Packers snapped
Speaker 3: the ball with fifteen seconds left on the play clock.
Speaker 3: On third and two with one oh five left on
Speaker 3: the clock, then the Packers call time out at fifty
Speaker 3: eight seconds. Lafleura would later say they were deciding whether
Speaker 3: to go for it or not. Fourth and fourth of
Speaker 3: Chicago thirty seven. They elect to try a McManus fifty
Speaker 3: five yard field goal. Good corkscrews in. Looked like it
Speaker 3: was going to be terribly low, wide left and in
Speaker 3: sed He makes it twenty to twenty one, but because
Speaker 3: of Lafleur's bauchery, they leave fifty four seconds left on
Speaker 3: the clock. Chicago starts at their own twenty with forty
Speaker 3: eight seconds left. Horse Scholar tackled to start, goes to
Speaker 3: third and eleven at their own forty nine with fourteen
Speaker 3: seconds left. Kaleb to more for eighteen, spics it with
Speaker 3: two seconds left. Santo's from fifty one good. The Bears
Speaker 3: snapped the ten game losing streak. Green Bay ends up
Speaker 3: as the number seven seed, even though Washington was winning anyways,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have mattered. They held the Bears the two
Speaker 3: hundred twenty four total yards two survivors thanks to Matt
Speaker 3: Lafleur eliminated.
Speaker 4: Oh, the numbers told the story then he's doing It's
Speaker 4: one of those idiots who believe in analytics.
Speaker 2: This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander and Gone Visur.
Speaker 3: Number two of a numbers game at Vista these Sports
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Speaker 1: We appreciated.
Speaker 3: It's Gill Alexander, It's Kelly Bidlin soon be back on
Speaker 3: serious ExM wait to add that. Yeah, man, that's gonna
Speaker 3: be front center. Baby, love it because this is the problem.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you it was great, you know,
Speaker 3: and it is great YouTube TV, as you say, most
Speaker 3: people take us in I think YouTube TV. But there
Speaker 3: is a certain group of our friends and acquaintances. I'll
Speaker 3: speak for myself because I'm a little older than you,
Speaker 3: right who when they ask me, I'm like, so it's
Speaker 3: YouTube TV, it's iHeartRadio. It's in there, and they look
Speaker 3: at me like glazed over. But if I say serious XM,
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, I got that. Yeah, So there's that
Speaker 3: crowd now it happens.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've you've brought up as much as anybody
Speaker 1: though whateverbody anybody asked me that question.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 1: Now going forward, it's still gonna be start with the app.
Speaker 1: Like the app has just gotten so convenient with how
Speaker 1: like how to watch listen? I mean, if you want,
Speaker 1: you got TVs to mirror stuff on or you know
Speaker 1: whatever it's called app app l airplay or whatever like
Speaker 1: all that stuff.
Speaker 3: How far do the replays go back on the app?
Speaker 4: Do we know?
Speaker 3: I gotta chat.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Didn't you find something from like seven
Speaker 1: months ago or some months ago? I did?
Speaker 3: Does it go back years. I have to check.
Speaker 1: I don know why Tom checks on it.
Speaker 3: Tom checks on the job. We had tweets and beating
Speaker 3: the book, Steve the Proxy. So you mean to tell
Speaker 3: me that Vson split from DK. We the listeners are
Speaker 3: getting everything back that we love originally about Vson. Serious
Speaker 3: xm platch app while DK is out here making up
Speaker 3: paid subscriptions to further confusing and rip off players. Great job, Vison.
Speaker 1: He's on harsh line and no comment. But maybe maybe
Speaker 1: tell the Busburgers thank you.
Speaker 3: That's right, exactly right, Martin Bernstein Gil I had the Bucks,
Speaker 3: Rams and Ravens in a parlay watch the first half.
Speaker 3: H took a bath like James Connon the Gambler. Good
Speaker 3: start to the playoffs, Clippers dark Horse. There's a lot
Speaker 3: going on in that tweet. Sorry, wow, uh this is
Speaker 3: from oh Jason. Starting was like, I wasn't upset about
Speaker 3: the end of the Wimper they did, but you all
Speaker 3: said before the Losing Tree, you said, don't disappear when
Speaker 3: they fall late. So I'm just taking my medicine with
Speaker 3: a spoonful of sugar. He says, Okay, love you, Gill,
Speaker 3: and Kelly says, bet the steel He says, bet the
Speaker 3: Steelers next year, or at least not against them.
Speaker 1: Lo o L that's good. I mean, Jason, you know
Speaker 1: the the intree of honesty here open this. I tell
Speaker 1: myself that like every year. But that's you know, a
Speaker 1: schedule comes out and we freak out over it.
Speaker 3: Bobby Knuckles the rebel, he says, mister Kelly Billin, referencing
Speaker 3: verse three of the Alanis Morisset classic ironic song, came
Speaker 3: out in nineteen ninety six, same year as a legendary
Speaker 3: film Biodome. He says, the traffic jam when you're already late,
Speaker 3: the no smoking sun on your cigarette break. It's like
Speaker 3: ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife.
Speaker 3: It's meeting the man of my dreams and then meeting
Speaker 3: his beautiful wife. We all remember how she said that,
Speaker 3: and then meeting his beautiful wife.
Speaker 1: And if you told me, if you said, Kelly, what
Speaker 1: are the odds this Bobby Knuckles tweet is happy to
Speaker 1: do with Alanis Morrison's It will be like minus ten thousand.
Speaker 3: Ed Hamilton was on the fence about Lamar for MVP,
Speaker 3: but after checking my future tickets, I wholeheartedly agree. I
Speaker 3: don't know what his future tickets are. But okay, Mike
Speaker 3: Mike Zill's Duke ninety new lyrics. Look at that backfly
Speaker 3: is it Sharbonnet isn't in kowinky dink? Don't you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It is all quincident Keene Cranepool, Is this the jokichim
Speaker 3: beat MVP debate all over again? We can't give Lamar
Speaker 3: another MVP because he has multiples. Yes, that's how stupid
Speaker 3: it is, Grainpool. I agree, Frank Chewcuggion. I hope I
Speaker 3: said that right at Frankie Baby four because Frankie Baby one, two,
Speaker 3: and three were taken. He says Hurts participated in a
Speaker 3: walk through at the end of the week. Pretty sure
Speaker 3: he's good to go. Well, I will back that up,
Speaker 3: Frank by saying, if you believe in omens anyway, that
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles have a they put out something on
Speaker 3: Twitter yesterday from their tweet from their Twitter account, Hertz
Speaker 3: was featured along with Jalen Carter and Saquon Barkley and
Speaker 3: the caption said playoffs start now see you Sunday, January twelfth.
Speaker 3: So if you believe Jalen Hurts being prominently featured there
Speaker 3: is a sign that he will play. Well, there you go.
Speaker 1: I mean, I fully expect him to play. I actually
Speaker 1: bet that game pretty heavily, Gil. But by the way
Speaker 1: I said, there is a concussion protocol that you have
Speaker 1: to go through that I don't believe he's technically begun yet.
Speaker 1: If the game were today, he would not have passed
Speaker 1: anything yet if the Gears tomorrow play.
Speaker 3: So that's that's all. That's all I'm saying is it's
Speaker 3: when it comes to a concussion, it is very different
Speaker 3: from every other type of.
Speaker 1: Injury, and like like comeback player of the Year, there
Speaker 1: are rules that.
Speaker 3: That's right, Philip, I said, Philadelphia minus four and a
Speaker 3: half against the Packers, and you said, this is the
Speaker 3: most this is the one that has moved the most.
Speaker 1: This is the one that has moved the most. This
Speaker 1: opened three and a half is out to five and
Speaker 1: a half most places. I tied the Eagles into moneyline
Speaker 1: parlays with the Ravens and the Bills as me immediately
Speaker 1: as I saw that. I mean, there are Packers injury
Speaker 1: question marks, right, George. I mean elbows. Last time I
Speaker 1: heard a pretty important throwing elbow is a big deal,
Speaker 1: And I mean, yeah, Christian Watson, doesn't. I mean that
Speaker 1: didn't look good again yesterday. No, man, have you ever
Speaker 1: seen a wide receiver be hurt as much as him?
Speaker 1: Be hurt as much as him and you still think
Speaker 1: there's such like there's such great upside with him, But
Speaker 1: he's hurt all the time.
Speaker 3: Who was it that was telling us this, this whyt
Speaker 3: because why it's a Packers fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably where he said.
Speaker 3: Somebody told me say, yeah, Christian Watson would be the
Speaker 3: greatest receiver of all time if he had hands that
Speaker 3: are good for a receiver, something like that.
Speaker 1: Next, what's next on Sunday night, Gil do not be bothered,
Speaker 1: don't bother him. Commanders at the Buccaneers.
Speaker 3: My dad used to say, don't call me, I'll call you. Yes,
Speaker 3: Washington gets the prime time slot, as they should. Can
Speaker 3: we just take a moment twenty five years twenty four actually,
Speaker 3: but I like a round up. A quarter of a century.
Speaker 3: Washington fans were subjected to the worst owner in the
Speaker 3: history of Earth. We thought it was a life sentence.
Speaker 3: A miracle happened and it went away, and now this
Speaker 3: kid got drafted and everything is glorious. The twelve and
Speaker 3: five commandos at the ten and seven Buccaneers. By the way,
Speaker 3: let me just say stayed on record, I'm terrified of
Speaker 3: this game.
Speaker 1: I mean because Baker Mayfield's the coolest quarterback that ever
Speaker 1: played the game.
Speaker 3: Terrified of any game, And I guess if I had
Speaker 3: to choose, this is still the matchup i'd want. But
Speaker 3: I'm still terrified. Washington beats Dallas and you know, Jaden
Speaker 3: ended up playing a half, which was interesting, didn't do much.
Speaker 3: And then Marcus Mariota came in and boyle boy, that
Speaker 3: might have been the game of his career. He looked great,
Speaker 3: Wow it was. Mariota got in immediately, eight play seventy
Speaker 3: yard drive to urge from four out, ten to nine.
Speaker 3: Washington led. Then next time he got the ball, eight
Speaker 3: play seventy yards Mariote in from five, sixteen to twelve
Speaker 3: Washington two point drive films. Then the next time he
Speaker 3: got the ball, they take over at their own thirty.
Speaker 3: Actually it was two times after that, so they did
Speaker 3: have one three and out, but then they take over
Speaker 3: it throw they're down nineteen sixty and they take over
Speaker 3: at their own thirty with two thirty four to go
Speaker 3: to McLaurin for six two minute warning third and four
Speaker 3: to McLaurin for six. Two plays later to McLaurin for thirteen,
Speaker 3: gets to fourth in one of the Dallas forty nine.
Speaker 3: Mariota on a keeper for thirty three. Did you see
Speaker 3: a Mario Amani Hooker Amri Hooker, Yeah, Amrio Hooker of
Speaker 3: the Cowboys safety celebrating that they got stopped and meanwhile
Speaker 3: Marcus Mariota is running thirty three yards, so great the
Speaker 3: back camera. Then Washington uses their final timeout. They go
Speaker 3: to Ertz for eleven. They spike it at the Dallas
Speaker 3: five with only six seconds left because the refs had
Speaker 3: a bad spot, so it took two or three more
Speaker 3: seconds off the clock. Then to McLaurin corner of the
Speaker 3: end zone, the incomparable Terry mcclaurin. Everybody, thirteenth touchdown of
Speaker 3: the year for McLaurin. That sets the Washington receiving record
Speaker 3: for a season, and the Skins win it with three
Speaker 3: seconds left. How many Cardiac games has this team had?
Speaker 3: The Hail Miriam against the Bears, the McLaurin eighty four
Speaker 3: yards sprint to the house where they lose on the
Speaker 3: miss extra point to Dallas in their first game. Then
Speaker 3: of course, the fantastic finish against Philadelphia in the closing
Speaker 3: seconds that Daniels engineered, then the unbelievable win and overtime
Speaker 3: against the Falcons. This one, I mean, it's just amazing
Speaker 3: how many of these games with Washington fantastic pitch. And
Speaker 3: there was Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay who needed to win
Speaker 3: or have the Falcons lose. Yesterday again in well, Tampa
Speaker 3: Bay trailed against the Saints yesterday. This was the most
Speaker 3: surprising first half. I thought, I shock, sixteen to six.
Speaker 3: The Saints led this game at the half, and then
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay did their thing. First drive of the second half,
Speaker 3: ten play, seventy two yards Mayfield to pain Durham from
Speaker 3: six out cut the lead to sixteen thirteen. But then
Speaker 3: Baker got picked off. It went to nineteen thirteen Saints.
Speaker 3: Then Mayfield overthrowed, overthrew, pardon me a wide open Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: Then Jake Browning the punter dropped the snap, only got
Speaker 3: off a fourteen yard punt, and you're like, wow, Tampa
Speaker 3: Bay may lose this. But then Tampa Bay from their
Speaker 3: own eighteen fourth and eight at the new they started
Speaker 3: the drive at their own eighteen. They get it to
Speaker 3: fourth and eight at the New Orleans forty two after
Speaker 3: Baker was thrown for a five yard loss on a
Speaker 3: designed run. Baker to Jalen McMillan on fourth and eight
Speaker 3: at the forty two for thirty three, for thirty three,
Speaker 3: and then Jalen McMillan gets up in your stead and
Speaker 3: mimics and mimics gunfire.
Speaker 1: I can't fifteen yard penalty with this.
Speaker 4: Always.
Speaker 1: I know this is a serious man.
Speaker 3: This always makes Kelly and I laugh because again the
Speaker 3: NFL with the hypocrisy, because right after that, by the way,
Speaker 3: they go from the nine back to the twenty four,
Speaker 3: then a holding. So it's first in eighteen at the
Speaker 3: thirty two, Baker to McMillan in the MZI and the
Speaker 3: end zone, tiptoes it inside the end zone, touchdown. Cue
Speaker 3: the cannons, Fire, the cannons, Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: It's impossible. It's so hypocritical. It's impossible.
Speaker 3: About the laugh, I swear my dream is for us
Speaker 3: to be New England Patriots, where you throw me a
Speaker 3: touchdown pass, I score, and then I mimic. I gotta
Speaker 3: find that podcast job filling the musket with powder, act
Speaker 3: like I'm shooting a musket, they flag me, and then
Speaker 3: after we score a touchdown, they immediately shoot muskets. The
Speaker 3: colonials in the Patriots takes You Yesterday.
Speaker 1: The thing is separately if neither of them are ridiculous, right,
Speaker 1: I want home teams in stadiums to be able to
Speaker 1: celebrate cool, and I understand what the NFL is doing
Speaker 1: with penalties. This just can't exist together.
Speaker 3: The hypocrisy of the NFL is breathtaking.
Speaker 1: Next time. So it's twenty to nineteen Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3: The only thing other noteworthy in this game is after
Speaker 3: they took the twenty seven to nineteen lead on a
Speaker 3: ninety four yard drive with other two minutes left, they
Speaker 3: got the ball back Tampa Bay did. Now they've won,
Speaker 3: they're going to the playoffs. There's thirty six seconds left.
Speaker 3: Mike Evans needs five yards receiving to get to one
Speaker 3: thousand for the eleventh straight season instead of just Newly.
Speaker 3: By the way, it's an eight point game, right, and
Speaker 3: something could happen. New Orleans could pick six and they
Speaker 3: could tie this game. So this is about their playoff lives.
Speaker 3: But they wanted to get Evans, their teammate, the record,
Speaker 3: so they set up a play they get it to them,
Speaker 3: he gets nine yards. He gets his eleventh straight season
Speaker 3: one thousand yards receiving. Only Jerry Rice has more or
Speaker 3: fourteen by the way, that matches Jerry Rice's consecutive streak
Speaker 3: of eleven and he gets Mike Evans does three million dollars.
Speaker 3: Gino Smith busy getting six million incentives with the Seahawks,
Speaker 3: but he got three million for that. Good on the Buccaneers,
Speaker 3: I said, bucks minus one and a half bucks three disrespectful.
Speaker 1: I thought the ending of that game was absolutely nuts.
Speaker 1: Call me a million years old. The Falcons were going
Speaker 1: to overtime. How do you possibly run a play there?
Speaker 1: Throw the ball? I think everybody and it was awesome.
Speaker 3: Everybody universally loved it. But it was amazing that there
Speaker 3: was a scenario where that could have killed him, could
Speaker 3: have could have Oh boy, we'll get to the final
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Speaker 3: We get sweets, said meeting the book. Always appreciate the
Speaker 3: feedback from the best listeners in the game. Mike Rouse
Speaker 3: with the biting tweet here he wants to know the
Speaker 3: real information. Want to know what he wants to know
Speaker 3: about the weekend. He said, sorry if I missed this
Speaker 3: at the opening, but could we get a Christmas tree
Speaker 3: removal updated? Oh yeah, ladies and gentlemen. For the first
Speaker 3: time in my life, In case you missed it, I
Speaker 3: had a Christmas tree present in my place of residence.
Speaker 3: This is for a tribesmen, a new thing, and so
Speaker 3: I had to We carried it up the steps and
Speaker 3: it was a sappy, needly mess, and I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: this Christmas thing is difficult. The removal went splendidly. Threw
Speaker 3: a bag on it. Right, you can buy those bags, right.
Speaker 3: Debra Song Fashions house. She bought a bag. We got
Speaker 3: to the top. There's a special Christmas tree bags, large
Speaker 3: Christmas tree bags. We threw it back. Now getting it
Speaker 3: off the base has a little bit of a minor
Speaker 3: bit of spillage and needlage inside the house. Removed the
Speaker 3: three screws, but young Gracie did that, and then uh
Speaker 3: me and young Gracie, we just brought it down for
Speaker 3: the three flights. Four flights. It was no problem. And
Speaker 3: then this a little note about San Francisco. What you
Speaker 3: do in San Francisco is you you just throw it
Speaker 3: out on the street. They come pick it up.
Speaker 1: And so it was great.
Speaker 3: The removal's great. I'm all about the removal, the putting
Speaker 3: it up and stuff carrying up the steps. That was
Speaker 3: for the birds.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you're ready for a bigger on one
Speaker 1: next year. Then that's what it sounds like. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was too easy.
Speaker 3: Removal was great. I volunteer for removal, Dudie, thanks for asking.
Speaker 3: Mike Browns, Jason Zenner. Early in the Packers game, there
Speaker 3: was a completed past to craft. I think that replay
Speaker 3: assists came in and changed to an incomplete pass. However,
Speaker 3: Lafleur had to challenge it and then it was overturned
Speaker 3: to be a catch. What a joke.
Speaker 1: I caught this ko I actually didn't see the initial
Speaker 1: play though.
Speaker 3: It's incredible. And again we said this here on a
Speaker 3: Numbers game replay Assist. There needs to be an investigation
Speaker 3: about this. It came into our lives unannounced, much like
Speaker 3: the dynamic kickoff. The use of that phrase came into
Speaker 3: our lives unannounced, like, hey, dynamic kickoff, Remember how Scott
Speaker 3: Hanson went crazy with that on a red zone. We
Speaker 3: never heard it was called that, and then replay Assists
Speaker 3: just shows up in our lives and we still have
Speaker 3: no explanation. And by the way, we're headed into a playoffs,
Speaker 3: maybe we should get one as to what this can
Speaker 3: be used for and what it cannot be used for, because,
Speaker 3: as Chris Hartman says in his tweet, GIL, would it
Speaker 3: be too much to ask the NFL to get a
Speaker 3: play clock with tenths of a second on it and
Speaker 3: when it expires, the goalpost light up red allah the
Speaker 3: NBA backboard because replay Assist apparently can't help on that,
Speaker 3: for instance. It's ridiculous. That's how fired up I got
Speaker 3: it is, like, I know.
Speaker 1: It's kind of weird.
Speaker 3: It's even weirder than like the ed field doesn't comment
Speaker 3: on it ever, they've got nothing to say. Why bother
Speaker 3: they're too busy making money about off you three jagage
Speaker 3: three one three one was Darnold seeing ghost last night?
Speaker 3: Does that game hurt his comeback Player of the year?
Speaker 3: Chances don't get mad? Kelly glad to hear Vson's going
Speaker 3: back to serious XM. When can we start talking MLB
Speaker 3: monthly win totals?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 3: So many things to answer there. Yes, glad we're going
Speaker 3: back to serious XM. That's the highlight. When can we
Speaker 3: start talking MLB monthly win totals? When they post them?
Speaker 3: MLB monthly win totals? Come Back player of the year,
Speaker 3: we talked about this. Let's get to that game because
Speaker 3: that was the highlight of course. In terms of the
Speaker 3: Marquee matchup of the weekend, it was the Sunday Night
Speaker 3: affair last night where the plaoffs really began last night,
Speaker 3: not really began because both teams were in, but it
Speaker 3: was for all the marbles in the NFC for the
Speaker 3: number one seed. The fifteen and two winner would get
Speaker 3: the bye, while the fourteen and three loser would get
Speaker 3: knocked all the way down to the number five seed
Speaker 3: and have to go on the road, perhaps to win
Speaker 3: three road games to get to the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 3: Detroit ends up crushing Minnesota thirty one to nine. But Kelly,
Speaker 3: I just want to say this about this game last night.
Speaker 3: By the way, Minnesota now travels to face the Rams,
Speaker 3: which I guess is the uh which is the final
Speaker 3: game Super Super Wild call weekend, the Monday night game.
Speaker 3: But I just want to say this, And by the way,
Speaker 3: the Rams started to groppolo. The Rams ended up covering
Speaker 3: the closing spread but not the early spread, and the
Speaker 3: Rams had a shot to win and groppolo through the
Speaker 3: ball on the ground, which was awesome.
Speaker 1: On on four six million dollars for Gino Smith.
Speaker 3: Six million because Gino Smith he got him to ten
Speaker 3: and seven. He got the Seahawks to ten and seven wins,
Speaker 3: yardage passing, yards passing and also completion percentage sixty nine
Speaker 3: point whatever he got over that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the one he was already over, but
Speaker 1: there was a chance he could fall below it. But
Speaker 1: six million dollars, I want a movie made out of that.
Speaker 1: That's how much I care about this stuff? Yeah, groppo
Speaker 1: six million dollar game.
Speaker 3: Garppolo just threw the ball on the ground on a
Speaker 3: on a play down thirty to twenty five, fourth and
Speaker 3: three at the Seattle nine to close the game. As
Speaker 3: far as the game last night, Okay, yes, the finals
Speaker 3: was bad. The Lions end up crushing them. But I
Speaker 3: do think if you're a Vikings fan, as tough as
Speaker 3: this pill is to swallow, you can look back at
Speaker 3: much of this game and say what could have been?
Speaker 3: Detroit punts start the game, Minnesota punts. Detroit seventy eight
Speaker 3: yard drive, including a fourth and five at the Minnesota
Speaker 3: thirty nine to Jameson, then gives in from twenty five
Speaker 3: and seven to nothing. Lions Minnesota three and out. The
Speaker 3: officials miss a face mask on Darnald. He got face masks.
Speaker 3: They missed that call, so it's a three and out.
Speaker 3: Then Detroit goes three out. Minnesota starts at midfield after
Speaker 3: a helmet to helmet perhaps that was not called fourth,
Speaker 3: and they get to fourth and goal of the three,
Speaker 3: Darnald does not see a wide open Addison to the
Speaker 3: right incomplete intended for Jefferson. The Donald overthrow parade had
Speaker 3: begun at this point, he was just air mailing a
Speaker 3: lot of wide receivers. Detroit gets an intentional ground Detroit
Speaker 3: intentionally grounds Golf, intentionally grounds in the end zone, not
Speaker 3: called by the officials. So we have forget the helmet
Speaker 3: to helmet because that was sort of of subjective. But
Speaker 3: the face mask on Darnald followed by the intentional grounding
Speaker 3: on that was not called on golf, which was clear
Speaker 3: intentional grounding.
Speaker 1: Oh this, you know, this is my problem with the
Speaker 1: rule always is it's clearly you're intended to you're grounding
Speaker 1: the ball, but there's a player that's in the air.
Speaker 3: He didn't even throw it to that area.
Speaker 1: He didn't. You're not gonna get me to disagree with
Speaker 1: you on this. This is my I hate this part
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 3: So I'm just saying the Vikings were getting the worst
Speaker 3: of it with the officiating.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So first into their own twenty six golf, trying to
Speaker 3: go to Gibbs, He's picked by Ive and Pace Junior
Speaker 3: Minnesota set up the Detroit seven almost picked on the
Speaker 3: first play from Darnald, too high for Jefferson. Then he
Speaker 3: overthrows Jefferson again, so that to settle for a Reker
Speaker 3: field goal seven to three Detroit. Then Detroit fourth in
Speaker 3: inches at the Minnesota forty two. I don't know what
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell was doing. He decided to pass deflected by
Speaker 3: Jonathan Bullard. Minnesota takes over to get another field goal
Speaker 3: seven to six, and then a really big gaff by Riker.
Speaker 3: He kicks it out of bounds with twenty seconds left
Speaker 3: on the clock in the first half, so they had
Speaker 3: just cut it to a one point lead. He kicks
Speaker 3: it out of bound. Out of bound, so Detroit starts
Speaker 3: at their own forty nineteen yard play eleven yard play,
Speaker 3: mean nineteen yard play, ten yard play to Saint Brown
Speaker 3: into Raymond, respectively. Bates forty eight yard field goal ten
Speaker 3: to six, Detroit going into the locker room. And let
Speaker 3: me just say that was a There was a timeout
Speaker 3: called by Kevin O'Connor way too early there. He did
Speaker 3: not have to call it as early as he did,
Speaker 3: and so he left the door open for a Reker
Speaker 3: mishap on the kickoff.
Speaker 1: So you had bet officiating going.
Speaker 3: Against you twice. You had Darnald all of a sudden
Speaker 3: now overthrowing everybody like ghosts of Darnald passed but give
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn and the Detroit defense a lot of credit.
Speaker 3: They figure it out. Right, Oh, Donald has the most
Speaker 3: time to throw a pass on average in the NFL.
Speaker 3: It's like over three seconds, which is an eternity. So
Speaker 3: they're like, here's here's what we're gonna do. We are
Speaker 3: want to send the house and bet on the fact
Speaker 3: that our guys are going to get to Donald before
Speaker 3: our Manda Man coverage breaks down. And it worked all night,
Speaker 3: and so that is It was the officiating. It was
Speaker 3: the fact that the Vikings could not cash in on
Speaker 3: multiple red zone red zone appearances, and then the gaff
Speaker 3: by O'Connell and by Rikert at the end of the
Speaker 3: first half. It still wasn't over third quarter. By the way,
Speaker 3: Darnald had eight overthrows in the first half, the second
Speaker 3: most for an entire game in his career. In the
Speaker 3: first half. All right, second third quarter, it's still ten
Speaker 3: to six. Minnesota goes seventy yards acres for fifty eight.
Speaker 3: The big play fourth and goal of the two instead
Speaker 3: of kicking it again a field goal incomplete intended for Addison,
Speaker 3: so they come up with nothing. Then Detroit first played golf,
Speaker 3: just heaves it picked by Harrison Smith. Minnesota set up
Speaker 3: at their own forty six. They settle for a Rekerd
Speaker 3: fifty one yard field we'll ten to nine. This is
Speaker 3: like into the third quarter. Now, Detroit then goes thirteen
Speaker 3: plays seventy yards and seven to twenty five fourth and
Speaker 3: long fourth and a long one at the Minnesota ten
Speaker 3: golf to Gibbs seventeen to nine. By the way, Gibbs
Speaker 3: scored four times in this game. But even now, Dow
Speaker 3: it's still one possession game. With two thirty left in
Speaker 3: the third, Minnesota fourth and fourth at Detroit thirty four,
Speaker 3: they decide to kick a field goal there and Rekerd
Speaker 3: goes wide right. So it's just missed opportunity after missed
Speaker 3: opportunity to miss opportunity, there's one more missed opportunity because
Speaker 3: then Detroit first and at the Minnesota thirty fourth they're
Speaker 3: only up one possession. Van Ginkel almost picks it. Could
Speaker 3: have taken it to the house. Oh all right, and
Speaker 3: you know the rest from that point forward then, but
Speaker 3: we're talking about like a quarter and some change here.
Speaker 3: Detroit crushed him in the end, but that's almost three
Speaker 3: full quarters of football where you are completely playing with
Speaker 3: this team, and you had multiple things go against you
Speaker 3: both of you know, Darnold was off, Kevin O'Connell was off,
Speaker 3: rekerd was off both on a kickoff in a field goal.
Speaker 3: The officials didn't do you any favors. So I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: as big of a blowout as this was, Minnesota does
Speaker 3: have that to think about.
Speaker 1: And like, if he had that, where does it put
Speaker 1: him in the defensive Player of the year conversation. I'll boy, no,
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right, all right.
Speaker 3: I'll give you what my guest was and what this
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Speaker 1: I still haven't watch it. There's too many docs. Come on, man,
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Speaker 3: Let's see. Oh yeah, And Brian em says, does a
Speaker 3: Patriots wide receiver get flagged if they score the touchdown,
Speaker 3: then stand next to the militia and pretend to fire
Speaker 3: with them. This is my point, Brian, I would assume
Speaker 3: he is the hypocrisy a Patriots receiver where someone playing
Speaker 3: in Foxborough needs to mimic the musk, then they need
Speaker 3: to just do it for it, like you just want yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, fill the musket up with the powder, then
Speaker 3: do a whole thing and then have them do and
Speaker 3: see if you get flag.
Speaker 1: So the one I thought now that you brought it
Speaker 1: up again, the one I thought about way too much
Speaker 1: with this yesterday is where does the line? Where's the
Speaker 1: line get drawn for what a weapon is? Right? Because
Speaker 1: you have the we've seen the baseball bat celebration. You're like, well,
Speaker 1: baseball bat, it's a it's an item that's used in
Speaker 1: a game, right, so maybe it could use.
Speaker 3: For a weapon too, but it's multiple use. Instagram, who did.
Speaker 1: Was a JJ? Why who used to do? Like the
Speaker 1: slam the axe down? But like an axe is used
Speaker 1: by firefighters, so it's used to save lives too.
Speaker 3: We did a rolling, but we'll never get one. It's
Speaker 3: like an airplane is like box cutters. Like that's not okay,
Speaker 3: as J j C says, like Bill Belichick said, teams
Speaker 3: should be able to review everything. Talking about Matt Lafleur's thing,
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Speaker 3: tradition in San Francisco where we go to this entire
Speaker 3: thing with like, you know, a whole Christmas tree yard,
Speaker 3: and we get it's part of the experience. So I
Speaker 3: don't think we can remove that. By the way, Brian
Speaker 3: m did add he said, the other thing mist ignored
Speaker 3: on the golf grounding play is the past directly hits
Speaker 3: a ligneman. Shouldn't that have at least been illegal touching?
Speaker 1: No, because he's got to be downfield.
Speaker 3: By the way, legal touching just a something you should
Speaker 3: be aware of in all phases of your life.
Speaker 1: I just love that you're having as big of an
Speaker 1: issue with this one today because I feel like this
Speaker 1: is every week in the NFL for me, where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: they're at the thirty yard line, so we don't care
Speaker 1: as much as when it's in the end zone, but
Speaker 1: like it happens every week, or it just smell.
Speaker 3: It just smelled of NBA style home cooking in an
Speaker 3: NFL game, where we don't expect that in an NFL game.
Speaker 1: I just I have a problem with I guess I
Speaker 1: have a problem with the Maybe it's just the title
Speaker 1: of the rule intentional grounding, because intent that he presumes
Speaker 1: write someone's.
Speaker 3: Mindset is too But this you bring it up, you
Speaker 3: make it even worse. What you're saying is right because
Speaker 3: clearly Jared Goff's intent was to them the ball and
Speaker 3: instead what the NFL does is clearly flag stuff that
Speaker 3: is unintentional grounding when they throw it deep and the
Speaker 3: receiver cuts off his battern. So they're intridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: It's absolutely ridiculous. Roads at Rhodes Nos Oh, this is
Speaker 3: great Roads. I like this. Not many care. But Brian
Speaker 3: Thomas had a touchdown yesterday that was ruled out the
Speaker 3: two Why not rule it a touchdown? So it has
Speaker 3: to be reviewed. Not to mention Peterson not challenging it
Speaker 3: part of the reason he got fired. His in game
Speaker 3: is terrible. I actually didn't see that roads I actually
Speaker 3: I did neither.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would actually say though the NFL usually doesn't.
Speaker 1: These refs usually do a pretty good job of letting
Speaker 1: that stuff go to make sure they can review it.
Speaker 3: This is the one where this is a great one,
Speaker 3: Kevin Norman. Can we talk about how long it took
Speaker 3: the refs to correct? Oh, this is great? How long
Speaker 3: it took the refs to correct the first and twenty
Speaker 3: five call given following the dead ball McMillan gun celebration.
Speaker 3: Replay assists can't call down and till ref you're wrong,
Speaker 3: it's fifteen yard penalty now first and ten. What he's
Speaker 3: referring to is after that McMillan penalty where the Bucks
Speaker 3: eventually got taken back to the you know back, and
Speaker 3: then Baker hit him in the end zone for the touchdown.
Speaker 3: In between that, there was a it was like a
Speaker 3: three and a half minute delay. It was like an
Speaker 3: a turning. Now I'm gonna go over where the refs
Speaker 3: the officials decided it was first in goal from the
Speaker 3: twenty four or wherever it was and even the announcers like,
Speaker 3: it's not first and goal, like it's first and ten.
Speaker 3: You shouldn't It's not first and goal. After that penalty,
Speaker 3: it took him forever to sort that out.
Speaker 1: I love the broadcast teams definitely were a little bit
Speaker 1: more feisty yesterday, and I loved it like they were
Speaker 1: that whoever was on that call was going nuts about that,
Speaker 1: how is this taking so long? Also, when I first
Speaker 1: happened Gil, I always assume it's a problem with the chains, right,
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh God, you know, the old guys
Speaker 1: ran too far. Now we got to bring him back.
Speaker 1: But that didn't seem to be the problem.
Speaker 3: Actually, everybody was screwed up last one Cowboys underscore cups
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Speaker 3: life has become a signful episode Gilt. It's exactly the same,
Speaker 3: just different. I'll read one more, Tom f T for three.
Speaker 3: Since we now have magical expedited reviews, can they assist
Speaker 3: in judging that a quarterback is not intentionally grounding a
Speaker 3: ball but is being hit in the past, flutters to
Speaker 3: the ground. I think I think a flag is over officiated.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what he's saying there. Jeffrey s Devoor
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Speaker 1: I did notice that as well last week go.
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Speaker 3: final Super wild Card weekend game between again the number
Speaker 3: five seed Vikings my goodness and the number four seed Rams,
Speaker 3: who again remember the Rams were the team that decided
Speaker 3: seeding schmeeting. We don't care, you know, we don't care
Speaker 3: if we're hosting either of the Vikings or the Lions.
Speaker 3: Whoever loses that game. You know why because we beat
Speaker 3: the line. Excuse me, we beat the Vikings and we
Speaker 3: lost to the Lions in overtime. I thought Minnesota minus
Speaker 3: two and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to see this is when I actually
Speaker 1: missed the opener. D don't think it opened anywhere. Three
Speaker 1: two and a half I think was uh was what
Speaker 1: you usually saw. But this is getting bet today gil.
Speaker 1: We are down to one and a half most places
Speaker 1: this morning.
Speaker 3: Now, I am told there was a three and a
Speaker 3: half to begin this a three and a half, yes,
Speaker 3: and that to me is shocking. Yeah, Like I cannot believe.
Speaker 3: And this has nothing to do with last night's game.
Speaker 3: I just went through a whole litany of reasons why
Speaker 3: I think the Vikings are actually getting killed in a
Speaker 3: in a not so reflective way of reality, if you will,
Speaker 3: from last night's game. But still, it's the Rams, the
Speaker 3: Rams to me, and let's just talk Macro now, I
Speaker 3: said this last week three and a half. Wow, the AFC.
Speaker 3: Pardon me, the AFC is top heavy. We all kind
Speaker 3: of agree. It's the Chiefs, the Ravens of the Bills,
Speaker 3: in whatever order you have them. I really me, personally,
Speaker 3: I can't see any of the other four teams winning
Speaker 3: the AFC.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 3: Okay, And remember we'll show a bracket and Case's slot
Speaker 3: in the bracket. But we receed in the NFL, so
Speaker 3: we really don't know who's playing who based on wins here, right,
Speaker 3: If all the seeds win, the higher seeds win, then
Speaker 3: you know Houston would go to Kansas City if they
Speaker 3: beat the Chargers, but we don't know because reseedings happen
Speaker 3: in case there are upsets or if lower seed wins
Speaker 3: regardless of what the spread is. Okay, in the NFC,
Speaker 3: and you and I had that, we don't look at
Speaker 3: each other's power rankings. We each had those three AFC
Speaker 3: teams one, two, three in whatever order, and then we
Speaker 3: had all seven NFC playoff bound teams four through ten.
Speaker 3: I do feel the NFC is wide open, and I
Speaker 3: talked about this at the end of last week. For
Speaker 3: some reason, I can't get the Rams out of my head.
Speaker 3: I just feel like, now it all goes through Detroit, right,
Speaker 3: and the only two matchups I have are Detroit versus
Speaker 3: In terms of bets in my account, I have Detroit
Speaker 3: versus Baltimore. I have Detroit versus Kansas City. So I
Speaker 3: like where I'm seated with those. But the Rams, for
Speaker 3: some reason, I just feel like they can beat any
Speaker 3: of these teams and I wouldn't be shocked. Do I
Speaker 3: feel that way about Washington, Tampa Bay, or Green Bay,
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, not really, though I think all of
Speaker 3: those teams are feisty and could win one. Do I
Speaker 3: feel that way about Philly and in Philly, Minnesota and Detroit.
Speaker 3: Let's put them in their category, in the AFC equivalent
Speaker 3: category of the three teams that people think are best
Speaker 3: in the NFC. But I do feel I guess what
Speaker 3: I'm saying is while I can't see anyone in the
Speaker 3: AFC overcoming the top three, I do think the Rams
Speaker 3: are live. Now. Would I be shocked if they lost
Speaker 3: the first game? No, Minnesota is the favorite team, right,
Speaker 3: but I do feel they're the team most ripe for
Speaker 3: a long run of the non top three seeds. Agreed
Speaker 3: to agree, agreed, agreed.
Speaker 1: We both kind of said that Friday, But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stick with what I said last week what Drew said
Speaker 1: as well. I'm not I'm not gonna be shocked if
Speaker 1: it's any of these seven teams. The biggest thing that
Speaker 1: changed my mind over the weekend though, about how these
Speaker 1: teams do get stacked. It was last night that was
Speaker 1: impressive by Detroit, the fact that this is okay. The
Speaker 1: defense answering when it needed to answer with all these
Speaker 1: injuries that they had Azeloni was great, yep. And the
Speaker 1: one question I had big time was what was going
Speaker 1: to happen with this running game with Montgomery out because
Speaker 1: that one two punch was so effective. And I've always
Speaker 1: been high on jamieer Gibbs, but my god, Gil, what
Speaker 1: he's done the past couple weeks on his own, not
Speaker 1: with anybody to spell him of major consequence, has been
Speaker 1: extremely impressive. Now the Lions grabbed that by I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to beat this team.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's absolutely gonna be tough. And it does go
Speaker 3: through them at number one Seeds by and large get
Speaker 3: there right, So it goes through Kansas City, it goes
Speaker 3: through Detroit. I thinking, if somebody can coach his way
Speaker 3: into upset after upset, it would be the La Ra.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't. I will not count Baker Mayfield out.
Speaker 1: Oh boint Wait, Baker's playing right now?
Speaker 3: What a great game that is jam Daniels and the
Speaker 3: Commandos against the Buccaneers Super Wildcar Weekend. Cannot wait. We'll
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Speaker 3: only made one and that was the Rams plus three.
Speaker 3: That's the only bet I've made so I caught a three. Awesome, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I am waiting. I don't think I'm gonna get this.
Speaker 1: I was hoping to tease Rams up with the Ravens,
Speaker 1: but the Ravens I don't. I think the Ravens are
Speaker 1: really going to continue to take money here. I think
Speaker 1: the bigger question with that Steelers Ravens game, I think
Speaker 1: better chance it hits ten or better chance it goes
Speaker 1: back to eight and a half. I'm actually asking you, sir,
Speaker 1: I know I barely phrased that as a question.
Speaker 3: Ten is definitely the resistance point, right for sure. I
Speaker 3: don't think we see past that, but it wouldn't surprise
Speaker 3: me if for so, I think it's gonna bat around
Speaker 3: all week. I really do like this other one, the
Speaker 3: Chargers in the Texans is batting around all the time.
Speaker 1: Yes, the whole show two big, two big moves. While
Speaker 1: we've been on the air, Chargers Texans is just three
Speaker 1: to two and a half back and forth almost everywhere
Speaker 1: I'm looking. And then Vikings, it's pretty much one and
Speaker 1: a half everywhere.
Speaker 3: Man Kelly is also on the Pacers in the Heat tonight.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? I got yeah, I got a
Speaker 1: lot of bets Pacers in the account already laid eight.
Speaker 1: He'd have a question mark next to them because I'm
Speaker 1: probably playing them, Gil, like a ninety percent chance. If
Speaker 1: you've been going on, if you've been checking out what's
Speaker 1: going on with Miami Heat at all, Jimmy Butler causing
Speaker 1: quite an interruption with how this team has been playing.
Speaker 1: It's gotten so bad, though, Gil, At some point I
Speaker 1: trust spoe too much to let this get too ugly,
Speaker 1: and this would be the perfect bounce back spot tonight
Speaker 1: here in Sacramento.
Speaker 3: So Riley says they're not trading him, right, Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what he says.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler says he doesn't want to play anymore. They
Speaker 1: suspended him. The Players Association is gonna get involved here.
Speaker 1: They spended seven games. Yeah, this is a difference between
Speaker 1: the NBA and the NFL. Tyreek Hill can mouth olve
Speaker 1: all he wants and say I'm done with the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and Dolphins will be like, no, you're not the NBA.
Speaker 1: These guys get their way all the time. Yeah, they too.
Speaker 1: The problem is I think I think we've been a
Speaker 1: little too stubborn on both sides here, Like Riley Paralley,
Speaker 1: I love you man, and you're a smart guy. Like
Speaker 1: it's not worth wasting another year. Just send them away
Speaker 1: and get something back for him, which I think is
Speaker 1: gonna spa be so angry, but Donald it's Jimmy Butler, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know like you guys always angry NFL for me,
Speaker 1: Chargers Texans under forty four. I laid the seven and
Speaker 1: a half with the bills on the opener, and then
Speaker 1: a couple of Eagles, moneyline parlays, bills and ravens ew Chalky.
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Speaker 3: tip for the tree next year. Put it in an
Speaker 3: old fitted sheet to carry in the house. Needles contain
Speaker 3: no sap on the hands. Jason Stark. It happened in
Speaker 3: the Atlanta game on the final drive. The receiver was
Speaker 3: arguing with the refs that he was doing the first
Speaker 3: down signal. It's way too subjective O talking about whether
Speaker 3: it's a first down signal yes or mimicking gunfire. Jamie Leva,
Speaker 3: Hime Leva, Have you mentioned the Costco apartment living situation
Speaker 3: to Gil tuning in late If so, my apologies, have
Speaker 3: a fantastic day. Explain.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, So Costco is coming out with like apartments
Speaker 1: that they're going to be putting on top of or
Speaker 1: next to basically Costcos, and that they have like gyms
Speaker 1: and pools, and it's supposed to be like a you know,
Speaker 1: live there and never leave situation. Will they will they
Speaker 1: dumb waiter up things to you up.
Speaker 3: To your apartment. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I immediately texted my father the story though, and said,
Speaker 1: how happy is your girlfriend going to be about moving
Speaker 1: into a Costco? He he's absolutely the guy that would that.
Speaker 3: Warren Warren on Twitter at WP lifted. He says Gil
Speaker 3: Washington going for two to put them up by six
Speaker 3: made no sense. With four minutes left in the game,
Speaker 3: the line for the Super Contest was four and a half.
Speaker 3: We were one game out of first going into week eighteen.
Speaker 3: Oh did that make you lose in the end?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3: Oh? V James Lloyd, Yo, did you see Bryce Young
Speaker 3: pull the Steph Curry when he threw the touchdown pass? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you see that. Yeah, balls in the air. He knows
Speaker 3: it's going to be caught. He turns his back and
Speaker 3: starts celebrating. Robert Sarajian Chiefs scored thirty a couple times,
Speaker 3: but that was in ot Panthers Bucks. It's more than thirty, Robert,
Speaker 3: it's above thirty. The Chiefs did, in fact score thirty twice.
Speaker 3: You are correct, But the stat is which two teams
Speaker 3: never scored more than thirty?
Speaker 1: Which three team? I'm not even going to speak meanly
Speaker 1: about that getting confused because everybody's trying. Everybody who's dropped
Speaker 1: that stat this year. I feel like someone's come back
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not what we're saying. It's over thirty. Lawrence
Speaker 3: Anderson in Sane Francisco over the holidays, best experience way
Speaker 3: MO you have you have you driven one of the
Speaker 3: have you gotten in one of these cars? San Francisco
Speaker 3: is driving overrun by these way Mos self driving cars.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit here
Speaker 1: and say I'm never gonna do it, Gil, But I'm
Speaker 1: the first few rides. I'm gonna be the guy back there.
Speaker 3: That's like I just say, I just don't understand. Like
Speaker 3: somebody on the street just decides to open up gunfire
Speaker 3: on you. What do you do? Like you can't tell
Speaker 3: the driver to get out of the way.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. They lock you in. Look,
Speaker 1: I better be able to open up that door and
Speaker 1: talk and roll if I want.
Speaker 3: Little Gracie went and she said, I said, how'd you
Speaker 3: like it? She said, I would do it again, but
Speaker 3: with friends. I wouldn't do it alone. That's what I'm
Speaker 3: talking about. I would creep me out, Trip Tepper. The
Speaker 3: inability to clearly define the NFL's weapon pantomime penalty illustrates
Speaker 3: the utter absurdity of the rule. It's impossible to define
Speaker 3: this is all these artistic gestures are open to a
Speaker 3: different interpretation. Well said Trip, Well said, you get a
Speaker 3: couple of questions, many of these yes, please go ahead.
Speaker 1: Okay, one I just got my question answered. I do
Speaker 1: see one prominent offshore shop that just went to ten
Speaker 1: on the Ravens. Wow, So there's that. There's that any
Speaker 1: other bets that you're eyeing early in the week already?
Speaker 1: And are you like Commander's bucks if this goes to
Speaker 1: three and a half, you in on Commanders.
Speaker 3: If it goes a three and a half, Absolutely, yes,
Speaker 3: I have a feeling we see that at some point
Speaker 3: this week. Here's my question to you, a more sports
Speaker 3: talk radio question. Which team in Super wild Card weekend
Speaker 3: has the most pressure on it? Which team has the
Speaker 3: most pressure on it?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 3: I have my answer.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say the Baltimore Ravens just because of all
Speaker 3: the Lamar and the playoff stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's fair. I mean that's absolutely fair. They
Speaker 1: have pressure on them every round of the playoffs because
Speaker 1: of that. And you know what, I'll probably be betting
Speaker 1: against Lamar at some point because of it.
Speaker 3: It's either Baltimore or the other answer would be Minnesota
Speaker 3: because you win fourteen games, you don't want to get
Speaker 3: bounced a week one.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think I'm kind of thinking I'm kind
Speaker 1: of thinking about Buffalo a little like that. Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, if we're going to hand you the MVP,
Speaker 1: and this was your year, right, your year over a
Speaker 1: significantly better statistical performance by a Lamar Jackson. Yes, significant
Speaker 1: out there, improve it and that means win a couple
Speaker 1: games in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Say it again, Kelly, significantly better significantly. Let's take a
Speaker 3: moment before we leave here, before JVT comes on for
Speaker 3: money moves to review, because Kelly and I did this
Speaker 3: all season long, so we'd be remiss not to review this.
Speaker 3: We did adjusted season win totals, remember our Morgan and
Speaker 3: Morgan just Wednesdays, total Wednesdays. We did it all year.
Speaker 3: We didn't do this every week specifically with thejusted season
Speaker 3: win tos, but we did enough where it's good enough
Speaker 3: to go back and review. We did this several times.
Speaker 3: I ended up making nine of these wagers during the season,
Speaker 3: so these are pre flop win totals. These are during
Speaker 3: the season, and I end up going six and three
Speaker 3: for plus two point eight zero units. The only thing
Speaker 3: I'm the only ones I missed on was the Dolphins
Speaker 3: under seven and a half. They cleared that with eight wins.
Speaker 3: The Steelers under nine and a half. We know how
Speaker 3: that went and then the Niners over nine and a half,
Speaker 3: which is probably the worst of the bunch, but everything
Speaker 3: else hit Jags under six and a half, easy, busy,
Speaker 3: Commodore's over nine and a half, and then I got
Speaker 3: frisky and went Commodore's over eleven and a half. Bang
Speaker 3: Bears under seven and a half was the easiest, Steelers
Speaker 3: under ten and a half, finally got a Steelers one right,
Speaker 3: and the Browns under four and a half. They only
Speaker 3: ended up with three wins. Now, I don't say this
Speaker 3: to say, hey, look at me, look I won I
Speaker 3: say this to say again, when we talk on this
Speaker 3: show about the betting markets, the betting vehicles that one
Speaker 3: should gravitate towards, we talk about pre flop, the Drew
Speaker 3: Dinsic thing with alternate season win totals. Those are absolutely
Speaker 3: not priced efficiently. But during the season, adjusted season win
Speaker 3: total markets are a great way to win money, tried
Speaker 3: and true year after year because it is not going
Speaker 3: to be priced as efficiently as you might think they
Speaker 3: would be, and you, based on schedule, can make really
Speaker 3: smart bets, as my friend Kelly Bidlin did as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the futures as a whole not fantastic. This year Gil,
Speaker 1: but win totals were great three and two on preseason
Speaker 1: win totals, including an alt under on the Giants that
Speaker 1: was like plus two to ten, and then the end
Speaker 1: season adjusted ones like you're talking about, that was, what
Speaker 1: were you six and three?
Speaker 3: I think I beat you by one seven and seven
Speaker 3: and two, seven and three. Pardon me, seven and three.
Speaker 3: So six and three and seven and three I believe
Speaker 3: that's thirteen and six collectively on the show.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I mean, a couple of these we shared.
Speaker 3: But and again, we don't mean to brag. We don't
Speaker 3: mean to boast. I mean, yeah I do, look hop
Speaker 3: butter on the breakfast toast, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: Sorry about say, forty nine ers to win the NFC
Speaker 1: West Bengals to within THEFC norsews to make the playoff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these are just these adjusted during the season.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. We're not saying it to say, hey, look,
Speaker 3: We're saying it to say, remember these next year. You
Speaker 3: ought to bet them yourself, because you should be able
Speaker 3: to win on them, just as they