1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White tailed Woods and now 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is episode four hundred 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: and eighty four of Wired Hunts rout Fresh Radio powered 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: by First Light, and this week we're talking about avoiding 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: the Orange Armies. Welcome to Wired hunts rut Fresh Radio. 7 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: This is episode four eight four And Uh, I'm not 8 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: joined by Mark Kenyon today because he's out on assignment, 9 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have any sell service. I can't get a text 10 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 1: or phone call through to him, so I'm joined by 11 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Tony Peterson instead. And Tony, today, I want to talk 12 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: to you about bow hunting during on seasons. Mid November 13 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: probably represents a time um when there are a maximum 14 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: amount of gun seasons for white tails open across the country. 15 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: So it's relevant now more than ever. And uh, the 16 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: reason I'm asking you this question, Tony, is because when 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: is the last time you killed a white tail with 18 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: a gun? Oh? Man? Uh, I guess probably about three 19 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: years ago. Three or four years ago. I used to 20 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: I used to muzzleloader hunt really hard, and I've kind 21 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: of gotten out of it. We just by losing a 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: few spots to hunt and just having different priorities. But 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: it's been a few years anyway. Yeah, so you are 24 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: a white tail killing son of a gun with a 25 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: bow instead. That's why I want to hear your input 26 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: on this. So, when the Orange Armies are in the 27 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: woods in the Midwest and you are still looking for 28 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: your own white tail with a bow, what are some 29 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: themes Tony, Like, how are you finding deer this time 30 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: of year? Say, gun seasons have been open or a 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: week by now, um, and you're entering the woods to 32 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: try to kill one with archery equipment? How are you 33 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: finding deer? And like, what are some differences you're noticing 34 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: than in areas that don't have gun seasons open right now? 35 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: You know, I really I think we kind of look 36 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: at where the deer go during gun seasons as we 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: think of it too big. Sometimes we think like, oh, 38 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: they move on to some property that doesn't allow hunting 39 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: or some kind of sanctuary. But you know, I see 40 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: this a lot where I'm pheasant hunting or I'm scouting 41 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: this time of year, and I jumped deer in places 42 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: on especially on public land, a lot where they're just 43 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: in really tight cover and they don't want to move, 44 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: and so I think we always think that they're just gone, 45 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: But really you got to think of it from the 46 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: perspective of you know, how many deer could you hide 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: in half an acre of cat tails. You might think 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: like there's gonna be zero deer in there, but when 49 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: you go walk through them this time of year, those 50 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: deer know every one of those spots are kind of 51 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: unapproachable for us, like they're gonna know we're there. And 52 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: I see this over and over and over this time 53 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: of year where I always like in my head, I'm like, oh, 54 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: they're there. There's someplace big and far, and what they 55 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: are is underfoot in you know, a nice little island 56 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: in the swamp, or they're somewhere where just we're just 57 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: not looking, and it's usually a really tiny patch of 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: cover that hides them really well. So say it's November 59 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: and you're entering a new area and you have like 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: one day to scout before you're gonna be hunting for 61 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: a week. What are some things you're looking for. Are 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: you just specifically looking for tight covering that you're then 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: not entering, or are you looking for rubs and scrapes? 64 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: Are you trying to just find places where they're on 65 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: Other people like, what are you looking for in late 66 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: November for in season scouting. I'm looking for where Yeah, 67 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not looking for rubs and scrapes. I'm 68 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: not looking for anything that feels like an easy place 69 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: to hunt, like that nice woods that's open and would 70 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: be a great place to call in turkeys. That's I 71 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: sucks for deer right now. I'm looking at it like 72 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: where are the overgrown homesteads, Where are the thickest, thickest 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: parts of whatever property I'm hunting, And I'm gonna go 74 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: in and look. And you know, if you have snow, 75 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: it's really easy this time of year to see if 76 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: there's current deer usage. But a lot of places don't. 77 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: And so to me, it's just a matter of you know, 78 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: what are the tracks on the ground, what what what's 79 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: the concentration of dear usage look like? And it's not 80 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: gonna be you know, they might be places where there's 81 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: rubs and stuff from earlier in the season, but it's 82 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: gonna be tracked, it's gonna be trails, it's gonna be 83 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: the deer I jump that I almost step on. Those 84 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: are really valuable to me because they're kind of a 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, there are constant confidence booster, but also they 86 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: show you there was a deer writing this thing out 87 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: right here, that that's real important information. Alright. Well, on 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: the flip side of the coin, say you are a 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: gun hunter. Um, I know you recently had an episode 90 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: of Foundations that was about how on hunters should think 91 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: like bow hunters. You give us a quick synopsis of 92 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: what that means. If you're a gun hunter. What can 93 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: you learn for someone with our tree equipment. You got 94 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: to forget about the big beautiful views and you've got 95 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: to get in tight, you know. I mean it's we 96 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: we just in bow hunters do this too, but gun 97 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: hunters are are fantastic at trying to find places where 98 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: they can reach out and touch into here. You know, 99 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: and you think you're gonna increase your odds of if 100 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: you can see three hundred yards in every direction, or 101 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: you sit on that power line and you can shoot 102 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: both ways for three yards like this is this is 103 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: the spot these are you know, this is my highest odds. 104 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: But these deer they know where to go when the 105 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: pressure kicks in and to get them to make a 106 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: big mistake like moving across a wide open clear cut. 107 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: You know, four or five, six days into the gun season, 108 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: they're kind not gonna do it. You've gotta get into 109 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: some tighter stuff. Now, let's goope down to three power 110 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: and hunt in security cover and it's it's a hard 111 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: thing to do, but with a little in season scouting 112 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: and the willingness to sit type stuff, it usually works. 113 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Or a can word. Yeah, all themes you're gonna hear 114 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: from our interviews this week, and we talked to hunters 115 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: from West Virginia, Montana, Georgia, and Missouri. And like every week, 116 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: we have reading materials for you in the in the 117 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: description of the episode, if you just scroll down wherever 118 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: you're listening to at you're gonna see these articles linked 119 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: right now that are relevant for being in the woods 120 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: right now. Right now, we have articles like how to 121 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: kill the big buck at the end of the Ruts 122 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: by Tony Peterson. Tony talks about how volume hunting and 123 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: seeking hot doughs can help you kill them mature white tail. 124 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: Right now, we have ten natural food sources every deer 125 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: hunter should know by Mark Kenyon. Mark goes over food 126 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: sources that can be found across the country and are 127 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: especially relevant as we get into post rut, and we 128 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: have a caliber battle three oh a Winchester versus two 129 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: seventy Winchester by Jordan Sillers. Jordan breaks down two of 130 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: the most popular deer cartridges and declares a winner for 131 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: which is better for white tail hunters. And then we 132 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: have how to kill a buck in late November by 133 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon Marcus gust Is some themes for hunting when 134 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: the rout is coming to an end and guns seasons 135 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: are in full swing. So what is next for you? Tony? 136 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: What is the next hunt that you have going. I'm 137 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: gonna be trying to kill one more dear with a bow, 138 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: and in between that and an this year, I don't 139 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: have any buck teggs left. And then in between that, 140 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be chasing a whole bunch of public mind 141 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: roosters with my dogs going on. I like it. Thank 142 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: you for joining me, Tony. Good luck with that annerless 143 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: hunt and killing some roosters. Thanks buddy, all right and 144 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: joining us online. Next is Bowl Martinic from East meets 145 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: West Hunt and also you can find his articles on 146 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: Wired hunt website. Who's just hunting in West Virginia Now? 147 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: Bow in West Virginia. What would you say the buck 148 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten. 149 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: I think in the last three or four days it's 150 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: been about a nine. Buck activity has definitely increased with 151 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: some cold weather that had moved in and went from 152 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: being pretty pretty slow to a lot of movement in 153 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: the in the last three or four days. And what 154 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: phase of the road would you say, southern West Virginia 155 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: is in right now? Uh, the I'd say the chasing 156 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: and and then even some of the lockdown. We saw 157 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: both of that pretty hard throughout the week. There. Um, 158 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: where I was hunting was some reclaimed coal mine, so 159 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: you could see always and you could see when bucks 160 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: would be locked down with those. There was a mixture 161 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: of that. And then also just um, wherever the hot 162 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: dough was, you'd see four or five bucks just right 163 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: on her tail. So in that phase of the road, 164 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: I would say, I know you had some close encounters 165 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: with some bucks over the last week. When those happened, 166 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: why were you in that area and why would those 167 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: bucks want to be there? So most of the areas 168 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: that we were focusing on were the big valley fields 169 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: that were within the valleys of the reclaimed coal mines. 170 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: So at the top out of the timber where there's 171 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: where they reclaimed those minds, they put a mixture of 172 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: some different clovers and and um grasses and things that 173 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: the deer like to feed on. So it seemed like 174 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: the does like to hang out there, and and also 175 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: the bucks will bet on some of those benches, so 176 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: we were able to glass into them, and that seemed 177 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: to be where we were focusing on and where most 178 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: of the movement was. What were you seeing for signmaking 179 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: over the last week of scrapes, we were still pretty 180 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: hot um a lot of a lot of fresh scrapes. 181 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: It was more of the um more of like the 182 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: scrape lines that you would see versus them coming in 183 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: and pounding one specific scrape, but more as they were 184 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: moving and and cruising and hitting some of the scrapes there. 185 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: So that was what I was seeing the most UM 186 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: from that, not not so much as as fresh rubs 187 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: as scrapes. Were you seeing any midday movement at all? Yeah? 188 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: There was actually saw more midday movement than any thing 189 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: else on, especially on the cold days in the in 190 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: the rainy days that that we had hunted um that 191 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: that mid middle of the day was was absolute fire. 192 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: If you're doing some in seasoned scouting in a forested 193 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: area in the east, what are some things that you're 194 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: looking for in late November. So the big thing is 195 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: trying to figure out where where the dose might be 196 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: feeding at this this point, and also the boxes they're 197 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: starting to recover. Um. You know, in southern West Virginia 198 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: where I was, it's more of the peak rout, but 199 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: as you go through most of the the Appalachian Range 200 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: east and north is starting to get more into that 201 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: post right here now, and they're trying to replenish their body. 202 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: So finding any of the fresh clear cuts or if 203 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: you're find an areas that still have acorns on the 204 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: ground that they're feeding on, they're really starting to hit that, 205 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: as well as grasses that you'll find in some gas lines, pipelines, 206 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: power lines, things like that. They're really trying to build 207 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: up their body. Again, do you notice any big changes 208 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: hunting post right in a state like Pennsylvania or West 209 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: Virginia then you do in more traditional Midwestern states when 210 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: it comes to deer movement and buck activity, Yeah, it 211 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: seems to be slower, um, But what I what I 212 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: do notice is in that period you do you do 213 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: have an opportunity at seeing some of the bigger, more 214 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: mature bucks during that time, it's just you you typically 215 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: see a few and far in between deer. There's just 216 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: there's not as many moving at that period as you 217 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: see in more of the pre and and peak rut 218 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: phases of that time. So it's it's slower, but it 219 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: can really pay off if you find the right right 220 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: food source where they're hanging out. If you were running 221 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: trail cameras right now and big timber in the east, 222 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: where would you want those to be located at. I'd 223 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: want to run them on scrapes on the edge of 224 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: a newer clear cut um um, or on the edge 225 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: of on the edge of some thick cover that's going 226 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: out on a point of oaks that have acorns that 227 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: are dropping. Some of the similar stuff that you would 228 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: see during the pre run as far as cameraplacement, but 229 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: focused more around the food than I would around uh, 230 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: some of the betting cover going forward. Then, in the 231 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: next week or so, what do you think that buck 232 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: ACTVT is going to be On a scale of one 233 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: to ten in West Virginia, I would say the buck 234 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: activity is still would will still be about an eight, 235 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: maybe even a nine. Still, it just really seemed like 236 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: it was heating up, and especially with the mature bucks 237 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: moving in the last few days that I was there, 238 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: So I would expect that to continue through this week. 239 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: As as a temperature, you're still still pretty cold for 240 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: this time of year, our bou. Good luck with the 241 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: rest of your season. Thanks for joining me. Thanks Spencer 242 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: all right and joining us on the line. Next is 243 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: Keith Thompson from Montana. White Tails in Montana. Now Keith 244 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: in Montana. What would you say the buck activity has 245 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: been lately? On a scale of one to ten, it's 246 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: no better than a five. It's been very hit or us, 247 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: I guess if you want to call it the trickle effect. 248 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: We've been seeing some younger bucks up on their feet, 249 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: moving around early mornings, uh the middle till late afternoon, 250 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: but not much going on in the middle of the day, 251 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of the bigger deer we just started 252 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: seeing right now. It's been warmer than usual. I mean 253 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: it's I'm not one to make excuses, our jobs to make, 254 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, make it happen, but it's been awfully windy 255 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: and and rather warm, especially for this time of the 256 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: year out here. So it's hasn't hasn't benefited us, that's 257 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: for sure. So what phases it about? Would you say 258 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: white tails in Montana are in right now? Well, the 259 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: I guess you could say seeking. I don't know. It's 260 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: like you said, the younger bucks seem interested in their 261 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: cruising around, but the bigger bucks have just not seeing 262 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: And I really don't think they're locked down. I just 263 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: we haven't really seen any chasing or anything like that. 264 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: I just I don't think they're locked down. It's just 265 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: it's been it's been pretty goofy. It's workically, what do 266 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: you normally see for signmaking in Montana in late November? 267 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: Our scrapes along the field edges are usually torn to 268 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: pieces right now and you can generally sit back and 269 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: glass of scrape in the morning, and every deer that 270 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: leaves the field is usually stopping to check it. And 271 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: there again, it's just there's not there hasn't been much 272 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: activity as far as that goes. There's there's two scrapes 273 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: that are there every year, and they're on the edge 274 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: of the field. I mean, I sit there and watch 275 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: them all the time and we've had four or five 276 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: bucks hited this morning. There again, you know, the oldest 277 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: year was probably two and a half years old, and 278 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: the bigger bucks were already out of the field by 279 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: the time that was light, so I couldn't even see them. 280 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: I know they're there, but every once in a while 281 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: we'll catch a glimpse of one. But it's just they 282 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: haven't the very active this time of year. What food 283 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: sources are relevant in a state like Montana, We're hunting 284 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: the alfalfa field definitely. Like he said, that's the main 285 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: food source. There's not much left for them to eat 286 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: other than the alfalfa field. So it helps to you know, 287 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: kind of isolate the deer, to haunt them. But it 288 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: just it hasn't been a very good lately. Besides on scrapes. 289 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: Where do you want to be running your trail cameras 290 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: in late November? Um, there again, we don't. We don't 291 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: run that many, uh, simply for the fact that we 292 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: can pretty much keep visual on our deer from you know, 293 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: different vantage points, glassing atmospheres. We we run three or four, 294 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: but most of them are on scrapes, just because they're 295 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: they're so productive as far as getting different bulks, stopping 296 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: and hitting them. But what we do is actually, you know, 297 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: visual glassing. As we come into the last weekend of 298 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: the season. Say you had a client who is hunting 299 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: with a rifle, what does a textbook set up look 300 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: like for you guys for that gun hunter on this situation, 301 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trying to get somewherehere I can see 302 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: as far as I can um. We'll have a We'll 303 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: get up high where maybe we can look down into 304 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: the river bed or cover a lot of ground, especially 305 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: with the gun. I mean, I want to I want 306 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: to maximize the weapon. So if we can get up 307 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: high and maybe glass a buck that has a dough 308 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: run off somewhere, if we can watch him bed down somewhere, 309 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: we could make a stock on him. That's that's my 310 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: main deal. I mean, we do a lot of tree 311 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: stand hunting because we have the river bottom and and 312 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: it's successful that way. But I personally, I like to 313 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: be able to if I can make a move and 314 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: cover ground, That's what I want to do going forward. Then, 315 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: in this next week or so, what do you think 316 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: that buck activt is going to be on a scale 317 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: of one to ten in Montana. Well, hopefully a seven 318 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: or eight just to close the year out. I saw 319 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: there a little bit of a weather front coming through. Um, 320 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that gets things popping here a little bit. 321 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: We have we are four hunters less than camps, so 322 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: we're trying to we we shot one yesterday, A bow 323 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: hunter shot one yesterday, so that was good. Um, but 324 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: we're were four four deer tags left. We'd like to 325 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, go out on top heer to close the year. Alright, Keith, 326 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: good luck to you and your clients in camp. Thanks 327 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: for joining me. Thank you all right enjoining us on 328 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: the line. Next is Spencer Kandaschewsky from Redline Hunting in Georgia. 329 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Now Spencer in Georgia. What would you say the buck 330 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: activity is ben lately on a scale of one to ten. Man, Yeah, 331 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, looking really really being in the woods last 332 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I would say these this past couple 333 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: of days, I would I read about like six or seven. Um, 334 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: we've we've seen a bunch of small bucks chasing does 335 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: um during the day, you know, Um, but nothing none 336 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: of our big time um shooter bucks that we got 337 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: on a camera. I've really I've really shown up really 338 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: chasing these does yet. Um. And actually we just talked 339 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: to one of my buddies. He actually, UM, he was 340 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: hunting and he had one dough come in and he uh, 341 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: that dough brought in about three to four different small bucks. 342 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: Um that still ended up leaving. The bucks took off 343 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: after that dough, and another dough came in and didn't 344 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: bring one single buck in. So it kind of tells 345 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: me that some does in this area where we're at, 346 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, Northeast Georgia, some some doughs are hot and 347 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: some are some are not. So I would think it's 348 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: kind of starting to really really gear up towards that 349 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: peak rut. But as as overall out of ten, I 350 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: would say probably six or seven out of ten for 351 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: the past couple of days. So what phases it rout 352 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: would you say Northeast Georgia is in right now? I 353 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: would say I would say that pre rut really transition 354 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: into peak rut right now. I think these like coming 355 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: coming forward. UM. I think the next couple of day 356 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be awesome to be in the woods for. 357 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: And then another story, actually, another firefighter that we worked with, UM, 358 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: he actually called me yesterday about a dough that was 359 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: caught in the fence. So they got called out to 360 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: this call, fire truck show up. They got this dough 361 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: that's stuck in the fence, and they look up and 362 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: they had a monster eight point buck just staring at 363 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: staring at this though about fifty yards is actually pretty 364 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: close to little subdivision with some woods behind it. So uh, 365 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: the guys were trying to get this dough down and 366 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: this buck would not leave. He just watched the entire time. 367 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: They ended up cutting the dough down and as soon 368 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: as that dough hit the ground and got on her 369 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: feet and took off, that buck instantly started chasing her down. So, um, 370 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: it's after any kind of determining factor of of what 371 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: kind of stage we're in, I think that pretty much 372 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: means that it's it's almost at that p peak time 373 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: of rut. I know you're running a lot of trail 374 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: cameras there. Where do you want to be running your 375 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: camps in late November in Georgia? You know to start 376 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: with UM, right now, we're really focused on you know, 377 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: scrapes and rugs. Um, that's where we got a lot 378 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: of our cell camps, and we really focus a lot 379 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: of self cameras on the betting areas, you know, coming 380 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: into coming into the rut. If we can find ourselves 381 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: kind of hunting the spot where we can get them 382 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: transition year back and forth from from feeding to betting. 383 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: That's where we really run our cell cameras. Um. And 384 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: we try not to get in there as much, only 385 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: if we're gonna hunt it, because we don't want to 386 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: spook out a lot of these doughs that could eventually 387 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: be bringing these bring these bucks into that area. But um, 388 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: for the most part, yeah, we're gonna put We're gonna 389 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: put cameras on scrapes, bettings and buck rubs. What food 390 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: sources are relevant right now in that part of the country. UM. 391 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: So it's been real hot and heavy on the acorns lately. Um. 392 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: You know, I talked to a lot of guys that 393 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: do run feeders and stuff, and for the past couple weeks, 394 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: nothing is coming to the theaters. They want no interest 395 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: in that. Or you know, a couple of people have 396 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: got to natural food plots as well and still get 397 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: a couple of dolls and stuff coming out there out there, 398 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: but mostly in the middle of the night. Um. But 399 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: we had a good supply of acorns stop this year. Um, 400 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: but I do anticipate in the next couple of weeks 401 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: those are gonna start diminishing a little bit, and I 402 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: think they'll eventually start working towards more food plots and 403 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: more feeders if you have them out there. If you're 404 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: forced to do some in seasoned scouting in late November 405 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: and Georgia, what are some things that you're looking for? Man, 406 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna really try to find, um find good 407 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: pinch points and good funnel points for for these deer 408 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: to be cruising in. If you have do you have 409 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: the ability where you have enough land where you can 410 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: get yourself in a in a good in between spot 411 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: that those transition spots. I think that's gonna be the best, 412 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: the best spot to to try to do some scouting early. 413 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: Find find where you want to sit and where you 414 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: want to where you want to hunt at, and set 415 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: up there. Um that, And I think you know, in 416 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: the afternoons especially, these dolls are gonna be out, They're 417 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: gonna be starting to feed a little bit more and more. 418 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: You're coming into the late November, and I think if 419 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: you can get on a food plot that'd be also 420 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: a good option for yourself as well going forward. Then 421 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: this next week or so, what do you think that 422 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: bucket TV is going to be on the scale of 423 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: one to ten in Georgia? Man, I think these next 424 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, especially the next couple of days, it's 425 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: going to be a ten out of ten um. I'm 426 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: really optimistic about that. Like I said, it's it's a 427 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: weird state, you know, George's you know, we've got so 428 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: many it seems like we have so many different ruts 429 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: in different counties. You know, you can talk to one 430 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: person next to you and they seems like they have 431 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: no butt rut activity, and then the next person you 432 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: talked to there and full blown rut um. I think 433 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: part of the reason before that is we've got introduced 434 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: who so many different here from different states because they 435 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: did populate to here to try to get them back here. 436 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: But I think overall this next week coming forward, it's 437 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a ten ten. It's gonna be a it's 438 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a good time to be in the woods, 439 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: and if you can get the time off, I would 440 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: try to do it. Alright, Spencer, good luck to you 441 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: and everyone else from red Line Hunting. Thanks for joining me. Awesome, 442 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it. Thanks Spencer alright and joining us 443 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: on the line. Last is Nate Thomas from Missouri Woods 444 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: and Water podcast in Missouri. Now Nate in Missouri, what 445 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been lately on 446 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, lately, I would say 447 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: it's probably somewhere around the five. Um. I think a 448 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: lot of bucks have got those locked down right now. 449 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: I think there's also some bucks that are searching for 450 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: that that second or third or maybe even forth right 451 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: now they're um looking again, but seems to have piled off, 452 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: especially with this being towards the tail end of our 453 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: rifle season. UM, seems like it's kind of dying a 454 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: little bit at least in our area. So what phase 455 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: of about would you say that Missouri's in right now? 456 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: If I had to, like say a phase, I would 457 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: probably say like in the lockdown, you know, second searching 458 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: for the second time kind of that area right now there, UM, 459 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot less activity on like trail cams 460 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: with bucks um, and a lot less activity during the day. Now. 461 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: I haven't hunted in the past seven days now because 462 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: I did tag out last week. But um, I'm just 463 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: through talking with certain friends and different people in our area. UM, 464 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: I think they're kind of ghost in a little bit 465 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: and kind of locking down with some of those those 466 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: Now you guys are about two weeks into Missouri's gun season. 467 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: What do you notice for a shifting deer movement at 468 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: the end of the gun season and going into the 469 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: archery season again? Yeah from this, UM don't The last 470 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: two years for sure has hit right at the peak 471 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: of the rut what I would call like the top 472 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: of that bell curve um that you hear everybody talk about. 473 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: And I don't think this year was any different. Um, 474 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: those first few days, let's say, five days in the 475 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: gun season, we're just um, all kinds of craziness. Um. 476 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: And then I think, you know the Orange Army. UM, 477 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything about bad about him. UM, there's 478 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: so much pressure and craziness that happens those first few days. UM, 479 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: I think you see a decrease in in movement, not 480 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: only because the ruts moving on, but also these deer 481 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: are just getting harassed by hundreds in the woods and 482 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of them not only are are 483 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: trying to rut they're also trying to run for their lives. 484 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: So it's kind of unique in my opinion, in our 485 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: our state because it's there's all kinds of things going 486 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: on all at once during that time. What are you 487 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: seeing for signmaking right now? Not a whole lot. I 488 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, on my particular property, I saw some scrapes 489 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: that looked like one of those scrapes that a buck 490 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: started making but then got bored with it a few 491 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: seconds into it. Um. You know, I see more just 492 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: straight up searching more than anything, just cruising, going through 493 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: betting areas, getting out of there onto the next one. UM. 494 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: Not a whole lot of signmaking. You said that you've 495 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: been observing your trail cameras for the last couple of weeks. 496 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: Where do you want to be running your trail cameras 497 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: in late November in Missouri? Late November, so after deer 498 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: season or after a rifle season is over. Um, I 499 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: would go back to that kind of that early season 500 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: like transition areas. UM. In my opinion, once the ruts 501 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: kind of tailing off. Sure, you'll have some of those 502 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: go groups that are coming in late and we're still 503 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: going to have some activity, I'm sure, But I think 504 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: the bucks are just so run down at that point 505 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: from running and trying not to die from the rifle hunters, 506 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: that they're gonna be looking to um uh eat again 507 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: and try to live their lives. So I kind of 508 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: transition back to those bedding and transition areas to and 509 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: from from food and what food sources are elevant right 510 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: now in that part of the country. I've been seeing 511 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: deer on corn a lot right now, cut corn fields 512 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: which have been cut for weeks here. Um, seems like 513 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: every time I see a deer outfeeding, the hearing there 514 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: in cut corn fields currently going forward. Then in this 515 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: next week or so, what do you think that buck 516 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one 517 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: to ten in Missouri. I think it's probably gonna drop 518 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: in the next week or so. Um. Rifle season ends 519 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: in the next day or two here in our state, 520 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: and I think we're on the tail end of our 521 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: our rut. I mean, I think we're on the lower 522 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: end of that bell curve. Uh So I think activity 523 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: is probably gonna drop even more. We're supposed to have 524 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: a uh some several warm days coming here in the 525 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: next few days. I think think Giving Day is supposed 526 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: to be a beautiful day as far as hunting would go, 527 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: but I would say we're probably gonna drop from like 528 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: A five down to US three or four. Alright, Nate, 529 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: good luck with the rest of your season, and thanks 530 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: for joining me. All right, thanks Spencer, and that concludes 531 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: this week's episode of Wired to Haunts Fresh Radio. Thanks 532 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: to bo Keith, Spencer and Nate for joining me. Thank 533 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: you guys for listening. Like every week, you can find 534 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: this week's articles in the description of the episode. 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