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Speaker 1: Hi, Sabrina, Hey, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good?

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Speaker 1: You ready for this one?

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Speaker 2: I am so ready for this?

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Speaker 1: Are you? Are you? This is? This is a world

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Speaker 1: we can't seem to get out of.

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Speaker 3: No, and we're not even close to getting out of it.

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Speaker 4: Let's put we've got I think we've got plenty to go.

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Speaker 4: Our descendants will be watching this movie too. I'm not

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Speaker 4: at all and I'm also very hot in my booth today.

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Speaker 1: So if you see me profusely sweating.

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Speaker 4: It's not cause I hated the movie, it's because it's

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Speaker 4: a thousand degrees in here right now.

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Speaker 2: All ready, we're at like top of the morning, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, I know it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: I'm in a tiny soundproof booth with absolutely no ventilation whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Man, Well, let's get into it. People.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you

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Speaker 4: want to grab your friends, your PJS and your popcorn

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Speaker 4: and go back to a time and all the houses

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Speaker 4: were smart, the waves, tsunamis, and the descendants were.

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Speaker 1: A lot cheesier than they were in this one. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into it.

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Speaker 2: I'm Wilfredell and I'm Sabrina Bryan.

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Speaker 4: Well, as you might have guessed we have now barreled

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Speaker 4: through the original trilogy of Descendants movies. That's hard to say,

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Speaker 4: and we've now officially hit the stage that everything does

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Speaker 4: eventually at Disney. Myself included the reboot stage, because like

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Speaker 4: we've always said, after three, we are finally free. By

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Speaker 4: the way, no one's ever said that in the history

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Speaker 4: of the world. But the message itself is true, because

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Speaker 4: today we were capping the fourth movie of the Descendants

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Speaker 4: franchise with a whole new focal point and plot. It

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Speaker 4: is twenty twenty four's Descendants The Rise of Red. This

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Speaker 4: becets I'm gonna say it too, by the way, like

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Speaker 4: Game of Thrones. This became the third Disney property to

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Speaker 4: get a fourth movie, high school musical Halloween Town.

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Speaker 1: And something was in the news recently for something or

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Speaker 1: the other. I don't know. We'll get into that later, Sabrina.

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Speaker 4: We know all about the Descendant series by this point,

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Speaker 4: and we are smack dab in the middle of its

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Speaker 4: newest installment, Wicked Wonderland, which.

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Speaker 1: I guess I have to figure out if I.

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Speaker 4: Have to have watched Wicked, because I don't know Wicked

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Speaker 4: at all, so I haven't seen anything with Wicked.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Wicked. Am I gonna need to know

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Speaker 1: Wicked to watch Wicked?

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Speaker 3: No, because I think the third movie set us up

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Speaker 3: for that. I don't think it has anything to do

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Speaker 3: with like Wizard of Oz Wicked.

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's any of that franchise. I think

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Speaker 3: it's literally still in the Alice in Wonderland.

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Speaker 4: But wait a second, they're they're gonna use a word

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Speaker 4: like wicked. Where when wicked? I know Wicked producer Lisa

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Speaker 4: saying Wicked just means evil.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, Wicked is kind of the

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Speaker 4: trademark now of Wicked, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, so there aren't they then?

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Speaker 4: Just if it's not about anything in the Wicked world,

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Speaker 4: aren't they essentially just it's like, oh, this is this

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Speaker 1: Lad Like really, you can't No, I don't I know.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Wicked Wonderland. They're either're playing on Wicked, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't take it that way.

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Speaker 3: I do not think they are, but I can see

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Speaker 3: how that would make sense in someone's world. So that's

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Speaker 3: kind of actually a good question as far as was

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Speaker 4: Title for this No, I mean again, well, it is

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Speaker 1: That's what that's my guess.

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Speaker 3: I think your wicked little mind is the only one

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Speaker 3: that's wickedly thinking that, William, You.

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Speaker 4: Don't think they were trying to play into the idea

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Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean, I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that the I don't think that any

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Speaker 3: So I think that's a good point. I do not

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Speaker 3: seen the fourth movie. Okay, then, and the first what

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Speaker 3: we were seeing is the Rise of Red, right, so

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Speaker 3: there's like a sea. They could have said the Rise

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough.

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Speaker 4: So the newest installment, Star Wars presents the Avengers Wicked

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Speaker 4: Wonderland will be debuting on the Disney Channel this month.

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Speaker 1: But I do want to know, were you excited to

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Speaker 4: Were you happy to see kind of the whole reboot

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Speaker 4: of everything or were you a little like, hey, this

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Speaker 1: Do with Wicked.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this is an answer sort of purely on

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Speaker 3: They were so sweet. I met several of them and

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Speaker 3: So with that experience, I was very excited to see

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Speaker 2: And I had no idea.

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Speaker 3: Our main character looks very, very familiar in the sense

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Speaker 3: Sophia Carson, Like they look related, so I thought they

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Speaker 4: Because so one of the things I found interesting about

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Speaker 3: I mean, would you think that that would if you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe at a certain I mean, they know Disney

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Speaker 4: It was very much the good and evil. But there

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Speaker 3: Well, I can rewind just super quickly, and I feel

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Speaker 1: When they announce Cheetah girls for if it was a

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Speaker 4: That's what That's what this seems like to me, is

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Speaker 4: like a zombies, Hey, sixty eight percent of the zombies

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Speaker 4: So again, not a bad thing. It just it was

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Speaker 3: And I think I was mesmerized by several other things

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so you or you were sucked in right away.

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Speaker 2: I got it all.

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Speaker 1: I was just a wig the entire ima.

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Speaker 4: It was just there's many tell Oh yeah, no kidding,

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Speaker 4: but anyway, we did see the same thing with zombies

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Speaker 4: once they hit three. High School Musical also became a

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Speaker 4: you've already said that you were you were in. I

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Speaker 4: I'm one of those people where I watch all of

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Speaker 4: because I'm a fifty year old man.

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Speaker 1: So the idea of.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm going to go watch Descendants four, it's more

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Speaker 4: it's homework for me, right, and so I'm always enthralled

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Speaker 4: when I'm sucked into a world. My problem, which we'll

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Speaker 4: get into is time travel, if it's not written perfectly,

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Speaker 4: is very very thing.

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Speaker 2: You were hung up.

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Speaker 1: But I love it. It's my favorite. It's one of

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Speaker 3: It's it's scary to do so right, Like that is

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Speaker 4: Not just that, but I mean they disappear, you know,

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Speaker 2: Now I don't think I like.

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Speaker 3: Before we'll like you are starting to infiltrate my well.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going they're trying to develop these musicals.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to do a modern version of There's there's

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Speaker 4: a word for it. I forget what the name is.

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Speaker 4: And some people are going to blast me because I'm

447
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Speaker 4: not a huge musical fan, but like the old Rogers

448
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Speaker 4: and Hammerstein stuff and things like Pirates of Ben's Ants

449
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Speaker 4: and things like that, this was it was the spoken word.

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Speaker 4: I am a modern major general minimum, so this was

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Speaker 4: It's a very old school style of musical. I mean,

452
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Speaker 4: this is not something Disney has invented. It's Hamilton took

453
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Speaker 4: it to a different level while making it all rapping.

454
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Speaker 4: But again, there there was no real dialogue in Hamilton.

455
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Speaker 4: There's a couple lines, but for the most part when

456
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Speaker 4: they're when they're talking, it's to music. So this is

457
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Speaker 4: their kind of it seems like trying to do a

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Speaker 4: hybrid of the two. But this was the most glaring

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Speaker 4: to me of we're literally singing what we're doing at

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Speaker 4: the time, which again rotten to the core is the

461
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Speaker 4: song like You. I go back to that where it

462
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Speaker 4: gets the point across without them being like we're bad

463
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Speaker 4: guys and now I'm stealing an apple, like you know

464
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Speaker 4: what I mean, It's like they, yeah, you knew what

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Speaker 4: was up, so yeah, but yes, anyway, again, some of

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Speaker 4: the songs I thought were very catchy.

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Speaker 3: Certainly No Yeah, I did I for me and I

468
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Speaker 3: don't know why it's always the villain's music to me

469
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Speaker 3: that I'm like, oh yeah, I love this, I love this,

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Speaker 3: I love this right, and then there's one song that

471
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Speaker 3: is the standout of is anyone else hearing this or

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Speaker 3: is it just me?

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Speaker 2: And I can't wait to get it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you got it all right? So here we go.

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Speaker 4: Let's get ready for the fight of our lives and

476
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Speaker 4: get our hands dirty for the perfect revenge, because life

477
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Speaker 4: is sweeter when we have our synopsis. After the Queen

478
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Speaker 4: of Hearts and Sites of coup On Orodon, her rebellious

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Speaker 4: daughter Red and Cinderella's perfectionist daughter Chloe joined forces and

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Speaker 4: travel back in time to try and undo the traumatic

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Speaker 4: event that set Red's mother down her villainous path. And

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Speaker 4: with that, you know, what are your early thoughts on

483
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Speaker 4: the Fourth Descendants At Like I.

484
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Speaker 3: Said, these are a mix of two of my favorite,

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Speaker 3: all time favorite Disney classics.

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Speaker 2: There's so much to be.

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Speaker 3: Said that I think is absolutely incredible, but there are

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Speaker 3: some questions that are like, oh yeah, oh. But for

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Speaker 3: the most part, I loved this movie. For the most part,

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Speaker 3: I really did. We There's definitely things to dissect, but

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Speaker 3: right from the start I was very excited I think

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Speaker 3: that the first beginning part is something that like already

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Speaker 3: we're going to be talking about of wow.

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Speaker 2: Did that just take that long to get us there?

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Speaker 2: So we'll go ahead to it.

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Speaker 1: The I mean, I don't disagrete it.

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Speaker 4: I certainly did not hate this movie by any stretch

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Speaker 4: of the imagination. The new two women that are the

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Speaker 4: young women that are cast as as Red and Chloe

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Speaker 4: are great, Yes, really really good there you want to

501
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Speaker 4: watch them. They work great together, they have good chemistry,

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Speaker 4: They're very compelling.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think the adults were as good in this

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Speaker 1: this version of Descendants as they were the original version

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Speaker 1: of Descendants. I'm if I'm.

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Speaker 2: Totally the very first one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, when you've got that kind of cast

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Speaker 4: and they're they're they're.

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Speaker 1: Disneying it up a little more.

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Speaker 4: This I felt took itself a little seriously, and I

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Speaker 4: had some some story issues with this one, again not

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Speaker 4: just time travel.

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Speaker 2: There are some yep, there are.

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Speaker 4: Some issues story wise with this where it's kind of like, well,

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Speaker 4: that didn't make any sense, or that didn't make a

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Speaker 4: whole lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm going to bring a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a different aspect when it comes to the adults, mainly

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Speaker 3: one situation in particular.

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Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about because I've never

521
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Speaker 1: seen it, but you love it, I'm sure I know.

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Speaker 4: And when I read that when I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: this is they Well, we'll get into it, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's brilliant, brilliant, Yeah that they did the absolutely Uh well,

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Speaker 4: let's get into the breakdown here. So the movie is

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Speaker 4: directed by a new name to the decom, fold Or

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Speaker 4: Jennifer Fang. Jennifer started in the film festival world with

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Speaker 4: her Sundance Darling Award winning movies Advantageous and Half Life,

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Speaker 4: but then jumped into the world of TV directing episodes

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Speaker 4: of Riverdale, Quantico, The Boys, Agents of Shield, and Stargirl

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Speaker 4: and this was definitely her highest profile project and first

532
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Speaker 4: with Disney, and things obviously went very very well because

533
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Speaker 4: she is the director of the new Descendants as well,

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Speaker 4: the one where they definitely are not trying to play

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Speaker 4: on wicket. And let's get to the cast. Welcome to

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Speaker 4: the Fold. The new star of Descendants and a new

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Speaker 4: face for the channel, Kylie Cantrell. She is Princess Read,

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Speaker 4: the daughter of the Queen of Hearts, Kylie, who came

539
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Speaker 4: up through the YouTube and the Tiktoks also grew up

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Speaker 4: on the Disney Channel. Well not on Disney well anyway.

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Speaker 4: She's best known as Gabby on the show Gabby Duran

542
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Speaker 4: and the Unsittables. Also appeared on Raven's home high school

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Speaker 4: musical the series and Just Roll with It. And boy

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Speaker 4: does she fit that Disney pop star Mold to a

545
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Speaker 4: Tea releasing music through the conglomerate as well. And this

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Speaker 4: girl is really on par with a Malachi for FaceTime

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Speaker 4: with Disney.

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Speaker 1: She is currently everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Malia Baker is Chloe, the daughter of Cinderella and

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Speaker 4: King Charming. Baker was not known to Disney fans. Her

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Speaker 4: resume included TV shows like The Flash, Are You Afraid

552
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Speaker 4: of the Dark, and Netflix's The Babysitters Club. And now

553
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Speaker 4: she's thrown into the property and is probably never looking back.

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Speaker 4: Disney's gonna grab her and put her in everything. And

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Speaker 4: as we mentioned, China and McLain returns from the prior

556
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Speaker 4: generation of descendants to play Uma once again.

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Speaker 1: Was so nice to see her on screen. She's awesome.

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Speaker 4: She's best known from the Adam Sandler Grown Ups movies,

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Speaker 4: which also starred The Lake Cameron Boyce and as the

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Speaker 4: star of the Disney show Aunt Farm. Also I always

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Speaker 4: say Aunt Farm, but I supposed to be a period

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Speaker 4: and period tea Period Farm.

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Speaker 1: Also a pop star. She has a song with fellow

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Speaker 1: iHeart podcasters the.

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Speaker 4: Jonas Brothers, Welcome to the Family Boys, Excited to see

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Speaker 4: it to the holiday party this year, I just never

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Speaker 4: know what to get.

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Speaker 1: Nick is Nick one of them?

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Speaker 4: Okay Darrel renee is Uliana. Darra's first job was in

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Speaker 4: twenty eighteen's version of Freaky Friday, and also appeared on

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Speaker 4: The Blackish and Gray's Anatomy. But for the Channel, she

572
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Speaker 4: played Courtney on Disney's High School Musical, The Musical, The Musical.

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Speaker 1: The Series, The Show, The Musical.

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Speaker 4: I love when the Channel just looks around at their

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Speaker 4: crop talent and starts plopping him into these movies. It

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Speaker 4: feels like the old days. That's exactly what you should do.

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Speaker 4: Always promote from within House.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Ruby.

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Speaker 4: Rose, Turner plays Bridget ruby Rose is best known to

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Speaker 4: Channel viewers as Cammy from the sitcom Coop and Cammy Wow.

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Speaker 1: This is Long Title? Coop and Cammy Ask the World.

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Speaker 4: She's also appeared on Fuller House and is the voice

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Speaker 4: in Netflix's Eden and the Damney Reynolds Chair better be

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Speaker 4: more like a couch This week because we have some

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Speaker 4: stunt casting. Similar to the inclusion of Kathy and Jimmy

586
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Speaker 4: kristin Cheneworth and mas Jibbroni in the first movie, we

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Speaker 4: have some familiar faces to the castle. First up, we

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Speaker 4: have Brandy Norwood as Cinderella and iconic actress and R

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Speaker 4: and B singer of the nineties known as just Brandy.

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Speaker 1: That's how popular she was. She was just a first namer.

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Speaker 4: She sold over forty million records worldwide, led by the

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Speaker 4: absolute classic song alongside Monica, The Boy is Mine.

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Speaker 1: You can hear it in your head right now, can't you?

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Speaker 2: Sta Yep, I'm kid.

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Speaker 4: She starred in her own sitcom Moesha for years, and

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Speaker 4: most notably for us. She was reprising this role because

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Speaker 4: she already played Cinderella in the nineteen ninety seven Disney

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Speaker 4: original movie from the Rogers and Hammerstein source material. In

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Speaker 4: this version, her musical idol Whitney Houston played the fairy Godmother.

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Speaker 4: We got to add that to the docket soon because,

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Speaker 4: like I said, I've never seen that movie and I

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Speaker 4: know I should.

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Speaker 3: Oh and the producer of The Cheetah Girls, Deborah Martin

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Speaker 3: Chase produced this with Whitney Houston as well.

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Speaker 2: That's super cool, such a good movieck.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we you definitely have to watch it.

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Speaker 4: And in the same vein we have Paolo Montalban as

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Speaker 4: King Charming, also returning to his role from the nineteen

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Speaker 4: ninety seven movie Opposite Brandy, which was his first Hollywood

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Speaker 4: job ever. He also appeared on Madame Secretary and Mortal

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Speaker 4: Kombat Conquest. And finally, Rita Ara is the Queen of Hearts,

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Speaker 4: a somewhat surprising choice here. Or is a British pop

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Speaker 4: star who in twenty twelve was the first artist have

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Speaker 4: three consecutive number one singles in the UK Singles Chart.

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Speaker 4: She began her career in film and TV, however, as

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Speaker 4: Mia Gray, the sister of Christian Gray in the fifty

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Speaker 4: Shades of Gray franchise.

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Speaker 1: Those were not going to put on the docket. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to do that. I haven't seen them. Don't

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Speaker 1: need to thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: He just read the books. He's got yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't read the books. They were all wet from

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Speaker 4: being brought into bathtubs. Other acting credits include Detective Pokemon

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Speaker 4: Twist and She's a judge on the Masked Singer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you obviously were already dancing to Brandy in

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Speaker 1: your head? Are you? Were you a Brandy or Rita

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Speaker 1: Oro fan.

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Speaker 3: A huge, huge Brandy, Yes, you're correct, Mo to the

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Speaker 3: E to the and Rita Aur Yes, a fan of

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Speaker 3: her music, but not. I mean, I really thought she

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Speaker 3: did so well in all of the fifty Shades that

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Speaker 3: she was part of. You, of course, what do you

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm a grown woman watching grown movie.

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Speaker 4: It's just so funny, that is. It's just it's it's

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Speaker 4: a way to I don't read porn. I don't I'm

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Speaker 4: a woman. I don't read porn at all. Because he's

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Speaker 4: a He's really a guy who is really amazing And

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Speaker 4: oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Ye gets porn, Sabrina, shut bad. Just go to porn

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Speaker 1: hub and save the nine dollars.

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Speaker 4: Oh I got Okay, you don't need to buy the book,

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Speaker 4: bro Oh god.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Now you can razzle and dazzle us with familiar names

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Speaker 4: and big d Coom budgets. But our first concern here

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Speaker 4: and always is the length of the movie. We only

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Speaker 4: want to see ninety minute movies no matter the situation, and

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Speaker 4: Rise of Red is no exception, especially because the sentence three.

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Speaker 1: Was a disgusting one hundred and six minutes.

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Speaker 4: We know that musicals have a tendency to run long

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Speaker 4: because of the amount of songs we hear. But let's

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Speaker 4: hope this new series of movies can right the wrong descendants.

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Speaker 4: Rise of Red is ninety four minutes, four minutes off

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Speaker 4: target and not in the good way. But honestly, they

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Speaker 4: shaved off twelve minutes from its predecessor. So that's impressive

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna give him a small golf clap for that.

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Speaker 1: But let's hope this.

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Speaker 4: Wicked Wonderland, which again isn't playing on Wicked at all,

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Speaker 4: can find even four more to lose.

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Speaker 2: I know where the four instantly could have gone.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we will get there.

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Speaker 4: And on the writer's front, we see that Sarah Perriot

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Speaker 4: and Josane McGibbon, I hope I'm saying that right. Joseanne McGibbon,

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Speaker 4: the longest running writing team in Hollywood, get their characters

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Speaker 4: by credit. They are the writers of the original and

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Speaker 4: we now have Dan Frey and Rue Summer with screenplay credit.

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Speaker 4: This writing team came absolutely out of nowhere, getting two

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Speaker 4: scripts on the Heralded Blacklist, which is an animal which

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Speaker 4: is an annual achievement given to the best unproduced scripts

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Speaker 4: of the year, and then selling a ton of movies

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Speaker 4: that were never really made. Years later, they got this,

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Speaker 4: which was their first real big break, and things seemed

673
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Speaker 4: to be coming together for him because they also wrote

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Speaker 4: the newest Descendant's debuting this month. It is one of

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Speaker 4: those overnight success stories that took a decade.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to the Orange Doesn't Fall Far, the podcast where

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Speaker 6: Reality TV meets real life. I'm Tamra, Judge.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Sophia.

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Speaker 6: Each week we're spilling the tea on pop culture, relationships, motherhood, dating, drama,

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Speaker 6: and what it's really like growing up in the middle

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Speaker 6: of reality TV chaos.

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Speaker 2: One of us lived it, one of us survived it.

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Speaker 6: Listen to the Orange Doesn't Fall Far, Available on the

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Speaker 6: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: The movie opens up with Uma telling us all about Orodon,

687
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Speaker 4: the kingdom where all of our favorite fairy tales are true.

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Speaker 4: It formed thirty years ago when Beast married Belle and

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Speaker 4: they were survived by banishing the villains to the Island

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Speaker 4: of Lost, where Uma, the daughter of the Little Mermaids

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Speaker 4: Nemesis Ursula, grew up. She catches us up on where

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Speaker 4: we left off, which is Malan Benner now on the throne,

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Speaker 4: running things fairly even for the villains. But now they're

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Speaker 4: off with Jay and Evie on a new adventure, forming

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Speaker 4: alliances with distant Lands and not being paid for these

696
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Speaker 4: movies at all anymore. And in their absence, guess who's

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Speaker 4: left in charge. Umah, a far cry from her days,

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Speaker 4: is the bad guy, and she is ready to shake

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Speaker 4: things up. And we can already see some of this

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Speaker 4: new budget at work with the three D map in

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Speaker 4: the opening, which already looks better.

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Speaker 1: We're now at the Ordon Prep School.

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Speaker 4: We see the sign office of Headmaster Fairy Godmother is

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Speaker 4: being replaced with office of Headmaster. Uma Uma barges into

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Speaker 4: her new office and her predecessor, another familiar face from

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Speaker 4: the movies, the Fairy Godmother, is there. So glad we

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Speaker 4: get the synergy of some of the last films because

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Speaker 4: she was a fun character. She explains this job is

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Speaker 4: not easy, but it can be fulfilling. Uba Uma casually

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Speaker 4: says that she can handle a few prep school kids

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Speaker 4: and calls in her rowdy pirates.

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Speaker 1: Then wish is the Fairy Godmother a very nice retirement.

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Speaker 4: Fairy Godmother reminds her, I'm not leaving the franchise hunt.

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Speaker 1: She's been chosen as.

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Speaker 4: The new president of Ordon University, keeping her close by

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Speaker 4: for the next film. I'm sure she's prepared a color

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Speaker 4: coded list of tasks for Uma, but Uma already knows

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Speaker 4: her first order of business. All kingdoms are now welcome

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Speaker 4: to at tendap even Wonderland. Fairy Godmother is not pleased.

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Speaker 4: Wonderland is hostile. The Queen of Hearts refused to join

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Speaker 4: Orodon and they had to cover up the rabbit hole.

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Speaker 4: Uma insists that Mal put her in charge to make changes,

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Speaker 4: and nowadays Uma sees the goodness in everyone. It's time

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Speaker 4: Wonderland got a similar chance. She hands an unconvinced Fairy

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Speaker 4: Godmother a letter for Princess Read and looks over at

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Speaker 4: a picture of Carlos, the character played by the Lake

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Speaker 4: Cameron Boyce, hanging on the wall. She sadly says, it's

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Speaker 4: what Carlos would have wanted, So do it for me,

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Speaker 4: Do it in honor of him, and it was a

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Speaker 4: very nice moment. I even googled if they talk about

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Speaker 4: how he passed away, and that's certainly it's an interesting

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Speaker 4: choice they made because while of course the actor passed

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Speaker 4: away so suddenly and horribly, the character didn't have to.

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Speaker 4: And because the other four are off on another adventure

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Speaker 4: that we're never going to see that's just mentioned, they

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Speaker 4: easily could have put the character in with them and

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Speaker 4: just said they're gone. Now they're off doing something else.

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Speaker 4: So it was an interesting choice to honor him in

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Speaker 4: that way, I thought, where they also killed off the character,

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Speaker 4: which I think is sweet in a way.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I thought.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're two minutes in and I'm I'm tearing

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Speaker 3: up because how incredible that Disney like had such high

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Speaker 3: respects for him. Yeah, to actually go that, because they

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Speaker 3: could have easily just put him in with the other

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Speaker 3: three and that was it, and it's like they decided

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Speaker 3: to honor him, and I just think that's so incredible

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Speaker 3: and no, like the execs of Disney, just that they

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Speaker 3: did it right. I think it was the best way

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Speaker 3: to honor him.

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Speaker 4: It was the movie equivalent of retiring his number, like yeah, first, yes, athlete,

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Speaker 4: And I thought it was Yeah. It was really classy

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Speaker 4: the way that they did that, because again they didn't

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Speaker 4: have to. The character did not pass away, but they

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Speaker 4: were like, no, he is the character, so he did

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Speaker 4: and it was very very sweet. Uma wipes weay her

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Speaker 4: tears and fairy Godmother agrees. She weighs her hand over

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Speaker 4: the letter. Bibbity bobby boo. With that, the letter flies

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Speaker 4: into the air and out the window and uh yeah, again,

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Speaker 4: very touching tribute.

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Speaker 1: We're in the woods now.

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Speaker 4: The letter makes its way to a giant blocked off

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Speaker 4: rabbit hole and sneaks its way in right into the

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Speaker 4: forbidden Wonderland, a dark world of mystery and magic, right

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Speaker 4: in line with Alice in Wonderland. We see it arrive

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Speaker 4: at the castle, the Queen of Hearts, who has a

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Speaker 4: reputation for being downright ruthless. We hear her announcement to

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Speaker 4: the city subjects of Wonderland. You have one minute to

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Speaker 4: comply with her Royal Majesty's curfew, or else it's off

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Speaker 4: with your head.

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Speaker 1: It's like, damn, why damn?

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Speaker 4: There is a murder in this movie. There was a

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Speaker 4: murder in this movie. We will get to it, but

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Speaker 4: there is a straight up murder in.

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Speaker 2: This movie, not just like one specific thing.

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Speaker 3: It is spoken of like that aspect of it actually happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so many times. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I almost had Monroe watch this with me because we're

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Speaker 3: getting a chance to go and see this next movie

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Speaker 3: and she's coming with me, and so I kind of

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Speaker 3: wanted to have her at least be able to recognize

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Speaker 3: the big characters and things like that, and I but

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Speaker 3: I didn't have time to watch sit Down Watch with

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Speaker 3: her yet. And I'm glad because I'm kind of not

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Speaker 3: sure that's kind of a little old for her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Off with their head, which again, a lot of the

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Speaker 4: old fairy tales, if you go back and look at him,

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Speaker 4: are very murdery.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I mean Jemmy usually cleans him up.

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Speaker 3: But the car they started making me think of the

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Speaker 3: Queen of Hearts in the cartoon and how crazy she

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Speaker 3: is like her off, I mean, she is screaming and

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Speaker 3: she's just a psychopath.

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Speaker 2: Okay, time.

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Speaker 4: So the dude who wrote Alice in Wonderland was a

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Speaker 4: famous opium attict.

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Speaker 1: This guy was whacked as he was writing. So yeah, crazy,

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Speaker 1: So this.

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Speaker 3: Is a big choice for them to go into this

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Speaker 3: world because it is so out of the ordinary.

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Speaker 1: I thought they And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 4: It's a little crazy, but I thought they could have

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Speaker 4: gone a little farther with it, if I'm honest with you,

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Speaker 4: not the murdering.

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Speaker 3: Would we have gone into thirteen? I was when I

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Speaker 3: saw this caterpillar, like.

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Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff, I put all that stuff

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Speaker 1: in there.

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Speaker 2: Well, we might see it. The wicked part is coming,

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Speaker 2: so we might see it.

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Speaker 1: And do you think we're ever gonna see Alice?

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Speaker 2: I certainly hope so.

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Speaker 4: I hope so too, or her descendant, you know, right,

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Speaker 4: you know that kind of thing. Hopefully in the next

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Speaker 4: one we'll see.

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Speaker 2: The baking situation actually makes sense. Alison's Alice face.

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Speaker 3: Alice's Bakery is a big cartoon for Disney.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the baking aspect kind of sturgeon to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, everyone returns home in a single file line.

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Speaker 4: But there's one person who dares to resist the Queen's orders,

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Speaker 4: and it's her very own daughter, Princess Red. We see

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Speaker 4: Red wandering the streets past curfew, dodging the Queen's army,

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Speaker 4: and vandalizing your mom's portrait. We also get our first song,

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Speaker 4: Red introducing yourself as a rebellious, fiery teenager who feels

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Speaker 4: stifled by her mother strict tyrannical rule.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 4: I will also note these costumes and the color of

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Speaker 4: all this is really cool, which is a huge step

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Speaker 4: off the bat production wise.

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Speaker 1: It just visually was very stunning.

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Speaker 4: And when the song ends, a claw, like a claw

834
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Speaker 4: from one of those claw games, appears and through the air,

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Speaker 4: dropping her new hole in the top of the castle.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, Sabrina, you know this.

837
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Speaker 4: I'm legally and contractually required to ask you, as our

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00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: musical expert of magical rewind, what are your thoughts on

839
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Speaker 4: the first number, the song and the dancing of Red.

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Speaker 2: I this was, and it was like, all right, I

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00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: love it.

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00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: However, this is like one of the things with Sabrinac's

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Speaker 3: I was gonna mention, we're like past the five minute.

844
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Speaker 2: Mark before we get our first musical, which is.

845
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Speaker 3: Not along the lines of descendants that I can remember.

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Speaker 1: I feel like musical number yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh, within like the first two minutes like yeah, we

848
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Speaker 3: get the little like voiceover thing, and then it goes

849
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: right into rotten in the core, right, We're rotten to

850
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: the core right, So this what took a little bit

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00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 3: of time, But I will say this wasn't necessarily choreography

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00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: dominated in the sense of dance. It was a lot

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00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: more of like a high impact, high like energy like

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00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: fight scene already, which set it to a different level

855
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 3: for me and I love that.

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Speaker 2: So that was very cool. And the cloth thing, that's

857
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: like my favorite game at any arcade, and.

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Speaker 3: The ideas like getting picked up by one like my

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00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: David Busters has one where you can go in and

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00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: they actually let you do the cloth.

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00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 2: It's like dream come true.

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00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: That would probably my problem is.

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00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 4: I would keep trying to pick you up and it

864
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 4: would the clo would just be coming off your head

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Speaker 4: because I can never like.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, god, damn it, I need another quarter.

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Speaker 3: And it's like slowly got it almost had sad, but

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00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 3: now I'm dead now she got.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, this was a This was a very very

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Speaker 1: cool Yes, the character and all.

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Speaker 2: That, it's noting unlike the other ones.

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Speaker 3: This is already looking very green screen versus the big

873
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: like set pieces that we've had in the past.

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Speaker 2: This looks way more green screen.

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Speaker 1: Didn't. Yeah, it didn't bother me, I mean, but it was.

876
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: It was something that jumped out at me so much

877
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: versus the big production yeah sets that we normally have, which.

878
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: Is odd because I'd like to know how they did it,

879
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: because if you you're jumping from twelve million to fifteen

880
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 4: million dollars to eight five million dollars and you're not

881
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: using practical sets, that's a problem. But yeah, it was.

882
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: Uh it's a cool world and a great way to

883
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: intro the character.

884
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: I thought, yes, for sure, this character and this song

885
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: and her vocals and everything was like a yes, yes, yes,

886
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: check mark check, please let's go here.

887
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a weird philosophical question about what

888
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 4: this does to the original characters from Descendants, because the

889
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 4: whole point was, especially in Descendants two and three, is

890
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 4: mal Is coming into her own not only as a queen,

891
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 4: like as a leader. She's finding herself, but she's also

892
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 4: doesn't want anybody who's been through what she's been through

893
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: to go through what she did, right, So why didn't

894
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 4: she care about Wonderland at all?

895
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: Well? I oh, that's a good point. That might have

896
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 3: been on her list, but we just didn't get there.

897
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, that could have been that.

898
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: Sick I wish that, And again the create like the

899
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: creativity of it. How far were these movies like written

900
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: out right like a series like you know, Game of

901
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: Thrones and stuff is like, you know.

902
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: Perfectly planned. Yeah, no, this one undoubtedly.

903
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: Was not one of those things that it's like it

904
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 3: got written later on.

905
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: Right, But then again rewriting as I do because this

906
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: is just the way my brain works. And I know

907
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 4: people are like, you know what, they're to rewrite the movie, well,

908
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: then do your own podcast. So for two or three exactly,

909
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 4: So wouldn't it have been easier a line or two

910
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 4: about you know, I would have had her come in,

911
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 4: had Uma come in, sit down and say we're also

912
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 4: going to admit Wonderland, and the fairy Godmother drops her

913
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 4: her wand in terms round says, how do you even

914
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: know about that? No one even knows about Wonderland? This

915
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: was a secret that has been like how.

916
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: Could you wet under the rug? Yeah, as opposed to

917
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 2: everybody knew about it.

918
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: Because then I'm like, well, then why wouldn't Malan all

919
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 4: the other vks want also to release the people from Wonderland.

920
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 3: Or a line like mal is putting me on this

921
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: mission for something like it's part of her like it's

922
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 3: part of her big general life.

923
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: The queen wasn't supposed to tell you about Wonderland. Nobody

924
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: knows anything about this. Well, that's why I'm in charge, right, Yeah,

925
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 4: one or two. This is where it's like one or

926
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 4: two lines can change an entire story point because with them,

927
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 4: the way they made it sound like is everybody knows

928
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: about Wonderland, right, and Wonderland is so bad that forget

929
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: the island that we know about. They can come in,

930
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 4: but even the villain kids from the island don't want

931
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 4: to have anything to do with Wonderland. So either even

932
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: play that up, or play up that nobody knows about Wonderland,

933
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: because this was just kind of like, oh, so there's

934
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 4: another island and now Mal and her friends didn't give

935
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 4: it about any.

936
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: Of those people, you know what I mean. So this

937
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: is me overthinking. I'm sorry, this is how you know

938
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: my story.

939
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: That makes actually like great sense, So you know.

940
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, we'll see. Sorry, I just didn't I.

941
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: Don't know how I mean again, it's like you we

942
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: have no idea how long this Disney franchise is going

943
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: to be. Have they created a third movie or six,

944
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: like probably Descendants Part one, correct, and we're in a

945
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: Descendants Part two and we're at the first movie of

946
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: Descendants Part two?

947
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: Is there going to do three of them?

948
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 7: Right?

949
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: Like my guess is it's going to be it's going

950
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 4: to be two trilogies, if not three trilogies because they

951
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 4: can just keep kind of going.

952
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, because.

953
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: It's like there's this world and then when we get

954
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 3: into the Mowana aspect.

955
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: Of yes, like that, yes there'll be some whatever was

956
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: big whatever.

957
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: The jungle aspect of it, like going back to like

958
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just so many worlds we can go

959
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: into it.

960
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 4: I'd like to put on the record that we should

961
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: start also watching the Pixar films because.

962
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: I've never seen Molana. You haven't seen That's what I'm saying.

963
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: There's a bunch there that we still have to see.

964
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: Have you watched Toy Stories?

965
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 1: Of course?

966
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 4: And I've seen the first three Toy Stories. I have

967
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: to watch four and five, but I have seen the

968
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: first three and they're great. Up one of my favorite

969
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 4: movies of all time, great movie Coco. I'm on a

970
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 4: plane by myself bawling at thirty thousand square feet. People

971
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 4: must have thought I was a crazy man balling at

972
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: that movie.

973
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: So they're brilliant. I love them.

974
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 4: I just it sounds so strange when I sit down,

975
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: so I do private movie nights for myself. I have

976
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: like a room and I sit down and Susan usually

977
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 4: wants to go into her own room, like go into

978
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 4: our bedroom and she watches British crime dramas and I

979
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 4: pick a movie to watch, and I just.

980
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: Watch a big movie. Pixar is never one on the

981
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: like the top of my list, words like, oh, I'm

982
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna watch a Pixar movie, and it should be, but

983
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: it should be.

984
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 4: It's like I should watch Toy Story four her here.

985
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: It's great, and I want to see the fifth one.

986
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 4: So I got to get more into that. But maybe

987
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: we should start watching them for the podcast too.

988
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: I would love too. I think it would be.

989
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many things, especially when you watch

990
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: the older movies and there's like now disclaimers on all

991
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 3: of them when they come on Disney Plus, which is crazy,

992
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: but like you know, it's it's very interesting to watch

993
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 3: them because I had been obviously not watched so many

994
00:44:58,920 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: of them for so long.

995
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: But now Monroe, I want to introduce her to the

996
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: Classic of course you know what I.

997
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: Mean, And so it's like, oh, and then when that

998
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: comes on, you're like what and then you see it

999
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, I guess yeah, and two twenty

1000
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 3: six that yeah, that makes sense.

1001
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, it is. The world changes. Anyway, we're

1002
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: back inside the castle. The friend who picked her up

1003
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: with the giant claw was Maddox Hatter, so the mad

1004
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: Hatter controlling the claw and saving her from the guards.

1005
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: She says she's a prisoner of Wonderland and a lost cause,

1006
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: but Maddox disagrees, especially since he's her tutor in charge

1007
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: of preparing her for the future. But she wonders what future.

1008
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 4: Her mom's never gonna let her leave Wonderland and wants

1009
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 4: to turn her into the next evil Queen. A sympathetic

1010
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 4: Maddox Hatter then reveals something he just finished, a time

1011
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 4: machine that.

1012
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: Is technically just a pocket watch. And I was like, oh.

1013
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 4: Time travel ooh again, I love it. I absolutely love it.

1014
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 4: But you are opening a whole big can of worms.

1015
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's not a of worms, it's a list of rules.

1016
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: And yeah, don't follow the list of rules. You have

1017
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: officially pissed off.

1018
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: Well, it just here again.

1019
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 4: Time travel is very difficult, but it will take a

1020
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 4: moment in time that will give It will take her

1021
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: to a moment in time that will give her exactly

1022
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: what her heart wants most. But he warns her when

1023
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: you alter the fabric time, there can be some unpredictable consequences. Yeah,

1024
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 4: she thinks she can live with that, but he warns

1025
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 4: her everything can change. You could lose your mother entirely,

1026
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 4: which I thought was a strange thing to tell her,

1027
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 4: because if she loses is again time travel. If she

1028
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 4: loses her mother, she doesn't exist, so she can't lose

1029
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 4: her mom. That's literally impossible if she's traveling through time.

1030
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: And yes, I said literally impossible. When it comes to

1031
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: something fictional come out. Uh, It's like it's like the

1032
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: story time Machine was HG. Wells, where though you know

1033
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: the story was he goes, he gets his wife is killed,

1034
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 4: an inventor's wife is killed right in front of him,

1035
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 4: and he wants to invent a time machine to go

1036
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 4: back and save her, and no matter or what he does,

1037
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 4: he can't do it.

1038
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: He can't do it. He finally falls asleep in the machine.

1039
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 4: He gets knocked unconscious and he wakes up like millions

1040
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 4: of years in the future, I think it is, and

1041
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 4: he meets these two new races, the Elloys.

1042
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: And the I'm gonna forget who they are.

1043
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 4: But he eventually gets an answer to his question, which is,

1044
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 4: why can't I save my wife? And the smartest man

1045
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 4: in the world at the time essentially says to him,

1046
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: because if you save your wife, you never would have

1047
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 4: invented the time machine. So the thing that made you

1048
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 4: invent the time machine was her dying. So you can

1049
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 4: invent the time machine if she's not dead. And so

1050
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: it's a circle. And that's how you have to think

1051
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 4: of time travel. It's crazy. So he's like, you could

1052
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 4: lose your mom entirely. No, you can't, because then she'd

1053
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 4: never be born. So yeah, here's where the here's where

1054
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: I go crazy with time travels. But anyway, I love it.

1055
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I love it.

1056
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: It's just yeah, he's changed his mind, by the way,

1057
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 4: and walks away with the time machine. It's too dangerous

1058
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: that He's like, here's this magical thing of mystery.

1059
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: Now you can't have.

1060
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: It putting it in front of a teenager.

1061
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, all of your dreams could come true with

1062
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 4: this I'm gonna put this way in the classic, but

1063
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: it's just too dangerous and he cares too much about her.

1064
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: She hugs him and thanks him, and right as she

1065
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 4: hugs him, I was like, ah, she stole that, ye,

1066
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 4: and says, at least somebody still loves her. Then they

1067
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: hear the Jack of Diamonds search the castle. If the

1068
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: Queen finds her in Maddox's room, he'll be in serious trouble.

1069
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 4: So he hits a button and she's sucked right up

1070
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: through the ceiling. She's transported to her bedroom. She lands

1071
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 4: on her red heart bed and reveals she stole the

1072
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 4: time machine.

1073
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: What I didn't see that coming.

1074
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: Yet, I did from Maddock's She's about to press it

1075
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 4: when she hears Maddox's voice in her head, you could

1076
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: lose your mother entirely, And with that she hesitates outside

1077
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 4: Cinderella's castle. Now we see Chloe and King Charming in

1078
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: an intense sword fight. Eventually, after some very cool choreography,

1079
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: blue haired Chloe captures her dad's sword, so he jokingly

1080
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: uses a pretzel stick for the final attack. It was

1081
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 4: a very cute mother or very cute father daughter kind

1082
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 4: of scene. She calls it cheating, and he calls her

1083
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 4: too serious, but she explains when she's competing, she represents

1084
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 4: all of Cinderella's berg.

1085
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: I love that they just put berg on the end

1086
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: of things.

1087
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 4: It's like, h really, that's all, that's all it is.

1088
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1089
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: Then Cinderella arrives and greets her family, eventually slow dancing

1090
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,479
Speaker 4: with her husband and briefly singing, So this.

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Speaker 1: Is love originally from Cinderella, which I know was I

1092
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: do not. I I stay away from commenting on women's looks.

1093
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: I try to do that.

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00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: It's it's just it's not something that anybody should be

1095
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: talking about.

1096
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Brandy is aging remarkably well.

1097
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 2: She looks great.

1098
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: She looks great.

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00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 7: I just honest, she's so elegant and like like, yeah

1100
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 7: she did, and she just like and I loved the

1101
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 7: blue hair choice for this.

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Speaker 2: I mean we just have to take a moment for her.

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00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: I mean, she was the dress was incredible.

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00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 3: I mean, she looked her the way she did this

1105
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: version of Cinder or of so this is love like

1106
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: your I mean, they're they're a little they're little waltz.

1107
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: That wasn't too much, it wasn't a whole thing. It

1108
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: was just romantic.

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00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: I mean, this is my favorite movie, and it was

1110
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 3: like a chef's kiss y'ah.

1111
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: It was so good and like their their daughter watching

1112
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: and her being like oh and then ill like it

1113
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: just was. It was perfect on all aspects.

1114
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: Hands down, I agree. Cinderella knows Chloe Pat's last night,

1115
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: but wonders if she has room for one more pair

1116
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: of shoes and reveals a new bedazzled diamond sneaker. Oh

1117
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: and her mom and says she's gonna make a great queen.

1118
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: Of course, I would have to say, diamond shoes probably

1119
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: not the most comfortable thing you're gonna wear.

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Speaker 3: No, But like bro I made a similar but more

1121
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 3: frozen themed for her birthday last year, and like Homie,

1122
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: wore them every day. I couldn't get them off of her.

1123
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 3: It was like the perfect kid's ten.

1124
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 4: Like frozen sneakers, you can't wear those every day. Sometimes

1125
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: you just have to let it go.

1126
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, let it go. You did it. Be one with

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00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: the winds. Thank you Over now The Queen of Hearts Castle.

1128
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 4: The queen is revealed by being carried to the courtyard

1129
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 4: on a throne, and it's disturbed by the vandalism of

1130
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 4: her portrait.

1131
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: She also so looks like an evil queen. Very cool,

1132
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: just the look.

1133
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 3: Can I please have six different men carrying me around

1134
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 3: on a throne like that? With the oh, her cossuming

1135
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 3: hair choice, that crown.

1136
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: It looks great again.

1137
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm just like ten out of ten out of ten great,

1138
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: so good, definitely, great interest, great moments.

1139
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 4: The Jack of Hearts doesn't know who actually vandalized the portrait,

1140
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 4: but we know it was read during your song of rebellion.

1141
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 4: Then speak of the devil Princess Red arrives and the

1142
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: Queen of Hearts points out the crime, wondering if she

1143
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 4: should punish the soldier who let it happen.

1144
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: Should they poke thorns in his eyes? Or be off

1145
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: with his head? This is when I was like strong,

1146
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: because I was like did I just hear this?

1147
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: And when knocked out of myself, I was like, damn.

1148
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 4: Like whoa, whoa, yeah, amazing. But given the power to decide,

1149
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 4: Red picks off with his hat. The Queen of Hearts

1150
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: calls Red a disappointment. Over the years, she's learned it's

1151
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 4: better to be feared than love, so she tells her

1152
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: daughter to try again get it right, or she'll show

1153
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 4: her punishment. Red size and looks back at her mother.

1154
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 4: Then just in time, Maddox Hatter enters again with a

1155
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: royal delivery. The letter floats in the air and opens.

1156
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: It's UMA's voice, Dear Queen of Hearts, Empress of Wonderland,

1157
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: as the new Principle of Ordon Prep, it is my

1158
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 4: honor to invite your daughter Red at the Princess of Wonderland,

1159
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 4: to attend our school. I hope you'll join us for

1160
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 4: the welcome day ceremony. If you accept this invitation, she'll

1161
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 4: serve as your key. The Queen of Hearts is shocked

1162
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 4: at Uma. From pirate to principle. Another villain's gone soft.

1163
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: So obviously all these people know each other, but they're

1164
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 4: separate in worlds. And I like how they did that,

1165
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 4: but they could have done it differently anyway. Maddox Hatter

1166
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 4: hides his excitement. Red may have a future after all.

1167
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 4: If she goes to Ordon Prep, she gets to leave Wonderland,

1168
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 4: but she knows her mother hates Ordon. But to red surprise,

1169
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 4: the Queen of Hearts is ecstatic.

1170
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: We accept. She tells Red to pack her bags and

1171
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: put on something respectable for once, and which is weird

1172
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: because she looks great at Cinderella's castle. Chloe runs down

1173
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: the steps in her new sneakers. They fit perfectly. Her

1174
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: mom and dad are waiting by the horse and carriage

1175
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 1: with all Chloe's bags. King Charming can't come because their son, Chad.

1176
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: Chad Charming has a college tournament.

1177
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: So we love Chad. So Chloe and her mom head

1178
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 4: off to school together. Was it Chad Charming from the

1179
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 4: other ones?

1180
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: Yes?

1181
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: And okay, we've got to pause on that. Do you

1182
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 3: remember what Chad Charming look like?

1183
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: He's a white kid.

1184
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: Yes.

1185
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: I just don't think it matters in this world.

1186
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 4: Maybe like an Asian man and a black woman can

1187
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 4: get together and have a white kid, or an Asian

1188
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 4: woman can somehow when she was a kid not be

1189
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 4: English and white.

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00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 3: The cast scene mostly you can, you know, like I said,

1191
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: see someone and like understand, like, oh, I don't know.

1192
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: I think what it is.

1193
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 4: I think it's again like a Hamilton thing where it's

1194
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 4: one of those things where it doesn't matter that a

1195
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 4: black actor is playing George Washington or that a Latino

1196
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 4: actor is playing you know, Alexander Hamilton.

1197
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: I just was like wait, yeah, oh, producer Lisa. Producer

1198
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: Lisa says it's one of the plot parts you're supposed

1199
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: to ignore because Cinderella is briefly seen in one of

1200
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: the previous Descendants movies, so it's just cra Yeah, you're

1201
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: just kind of supposed to forget that that. Don't look

1202
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: behind the curtain.

1203
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: I think, yet again, this is not all the movies

1204
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 3: being written at the same time. This is going as

1205
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: we're going as we get picked up for the next correct,

1206
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 3: got it?

1207
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: Okay? All right, yeah, okay, then that's fair.

1208
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think race is just not supposed to matter

1209
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: at all in this world. It just doesn't which I'm fine.

1210
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I am fine.

1211
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: I mean we're doing it multiple times in this first

1212
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 3: in this movie right now.

1213
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, just it kind of just doesn't matter.

1214
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 4: Well, we obviously could not stop talking about this movie,

1215
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 4: so we have to split it up into two parts.

1216
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: But don't worry. The second part is coming out later today,

1217
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: so you do not have to wait long. Thank you

1218
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: so much, and we'll see you on the other side

1219
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: of this episode.