1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 3: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 3: We're on the air from one until four and then 5 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 3: after four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand on the 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 3: iHeart app. And we are covering the Pacific Palisades fire. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: It started as a brushfire and has exploded into an 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 3: absolute inferno. The entire town of Pacific Palisades has been 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: ordered evacuated and if people can't get out, they tell 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: you to stay in your home. A lot of people 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: can't get out because a fire started in a neighborhood 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: known as Pacific Highlands, which is north of the downtown 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: Pacific Palisades. And there's only one main road, two lanes 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: in each direction of boulevard style road, and it's been 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: so jammed with cars they opened all lanes to southbound traffic. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: But there are palm trees that were burning along the 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: boulevard and some people panicked, and they should panic because 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: the trees were on fire, and people were afraid that 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: the burning trees were going to be falling on their cars. 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: The smoke is so thick, the air is unbreathable, and 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: so I was looking at one La Times story about 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: a woman she left. Her name is Daryl Goldsmith, and 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: her husband stayed behind to help with a disabled neighbor, 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: and they have not yet reunited. She was at her home, 25 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: she saw the fire had quickly ex exploded. She rushed 26 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 3: to evacuate, her husband tried to help the disabled neighbor. 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: Firefighters started directing traffic. Goldsmith ditched her car in the 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: grass and walked down to the beach, and as she's 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: waiting at Sunset Beach, her husband still stuck up the hill. 30 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: And there's a lot of stories like that. The Weather 31 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: Service says that you've got sustained wind of thirty five 32 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: to fifty miles an hour expected in the area, gusts 33 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: of fifty to eighty miles an hour. In some corridors, 34 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: the winds may reach one hundred miles an hour. There's 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 3: something there's a phenomenon called mountain wave winds, and that 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: can cause short lived but extremely destructive wind especially in 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: the San Gabriel foothills and valleys. It occurs when gusts 38 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: rapidly drop down mountain slopes, gain strength as soon as 39 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: it hits the flat landscape, and you have a brief 40 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: burst of very strong, dangerous winds. They had this about 41 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: thirteen years ago. There was a twenty eleven storm that 42 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: caused a lot of damage in Pasadena, Altadena and elsewhere 43 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: in the San Gabriel Valley and a knocked power out 44 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: for four hundred thousand people for days. So that's another fear, 45 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: and obviously that would move the fire tremendously. There's embers 46 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: that could be flying around, and even land in the 47 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: flatland areas of the Palisades and Brentwood. They're expecting trees 48 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: to fall over from the wind and the power outages. 49 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: The seas are really rough. There's really no escape, as 50 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: people are finding out because of the jam traffic, and 51 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: then even if you get down to the flatland area 52 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: you can't breathe. 53 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: You still got to keep going as best you can. 54 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: You know. 55 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: I'm watching Channel five right now, John, and there are 56 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: a lot of cars parked on a sidewalk. 57 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 5: I don't know what that street is. 58 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: If you're looking at Channel five, it's live and you 59 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: can see that there are there are all these cars 60 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: just lined up on the sidewalk as well as the street. 61 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, everybody's ditched their cars wherever they can 62 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: because what else you're you going to do, which of 63 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: course makes it even more difficult for anybody to get out. 64 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: The evacuation area is the entire town of Pacific Powerades, 65 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: and that runs from to Panga, the Panga State Park, 66 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: all the way down south to pch and then to 67 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: the east to Sunset Boulevard and beyond Sunset Boulevard to 68 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: the flatland area of the Palisades into an area as 69 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: of Brentwoo up to twenty sixth Street. If you go down, 70 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: if you go down San Jacente and Sunset and then 71 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: to the west, it goes all the way to to 72 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: Panga Canyon Boulevard. So it's a mandatory evacuation and everybody's trying. 73 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: Population in the Palisades is about twenty three thousand people, 74 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: and twenty three thousand people trying to all leave at 75 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: the same time, you know, would produce these kinds of 76 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: traffic jams. 77 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 2: Apparently there's ash falling. 78 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: You could see from the videos that it's impossible to see. 79 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: The wind's blowing very hard. Trees are bent over sideways. 80 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: In some cases, those. 81 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 5: Palm trees are frightening. 82 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 4: I mean when those when those are on fire and 83 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: those embers start flying. I mean they go so far away. 84 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: I think we need to get rid of all the 85 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 4: palm trees. 86 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the eucalyptus trees. 87 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 5: Oh, those are terrible. 88 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: Those are the ones that explode because the eucalyptus trees 89 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: have oil in their leaves, yes, and they become like 90 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: a fireballs. And when when they when the trees explode 91 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: or you know, the tops of the trees explode, then 92 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: the embers go flying. Well, you know do the math 93 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 3: of their winds are fifty miles an hour very quickly. 94 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: You can you remember you remember the fire? Was it 95 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: in Santa Rosa some years ago? Yes, the flatland areas 96 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: which everybody thought was safe up in the San Francisco 97 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: area in Santa Rosa, Yeah, they lost, They lost hundreds 98 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: and hundreds of homes, completely devastated. It looked like the 99 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: surface of the moon after it was over. And that's 100 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: you know, that's what people who are living in the 101 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: flatland are are afraid of. Even though they're not in 102 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: the midst of the fire, you don't know when an 103 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: ember is going to start and burn down the neighborhood. 104 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: I'm looking at what is that on Channel eleven. You 105 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: have channel I don't. 106 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 5: I only have two TVs and I have. 107 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: I've got a glare because they didn't fix the shade 108 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 3: here in the studio, but it looked like it looks 109 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: like a Yeah, vehicle's on fire. Yeah that's that's like 110 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: a van, like a commercial van, completely ablaze. Now there 111 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: there's a guy pushing two sets of luggage and he's 112 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: carrying a backpack, and he's walking down the sidewalk, uh, leaving, 113 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: leaving the area on foot. Here's a here's another guy 114 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: who's loading up his car. He's got a dog, he's 115 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: got a bicycle. They're they're just running a montage of 116 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: shots on how people are packing up and the visibility 117 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 3: is next to nothing. 118 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 5: It looks like it's nighttime. 119 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah it does. 120 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: It does, and with with a weird orange glow, like 121 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: middle of the night with an orange glow. 122 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 6: When they were showing the guy with the two pieces 123 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 6: of luggage, there was another group of people off to 124 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 6: the side in the background, and one of them I 125 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 6: could see was taking his shirt off and wrapping it 126 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 6: around his head to make a mask. So he's walking 127 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 6: around shirtless now with his shirt covering his face. So 128 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 6: he doesn't inhale all the smoke. 129 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: You know, you really ought to just keep walking because 130 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: you can't inhale that smoke for very long. 131 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: You've got to keep walking. 132 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: I don't know how far you have to go before 133 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: the air cleans up, or maybe go towards the beach, 134 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: towards the water, because a long time ago I read 135 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: a book, actually I listened to it was an audiobook, 136 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: and it was about basic survival, and it really boiled 137 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: down to you put one foot in front of the other, 138 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: and every step you take away from the disaster is 139 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: a step closer to surviving. Like don't stop, don't look back, 140 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: don't look back, don't run back. You remember nine to 141 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: eleven the shots of the people running towards the World 142 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: Trade Center as it was collapsing. Because human nature is 143 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: you instantly become a Lukie lou and you want to 144 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: know what's going on. 145 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: It's like keep. 146 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: Walking or driving or biking away and and and be 147 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: single minded on that for as long as you need 148 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: to be. Don't stand because the air is not going 149 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: to get any better, The fire is not being put 150 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: out anytime soon, and every minute you're standing in that 151 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: kind of smoke is more and more damage. That's happening 152 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: to your lungs. I when when when nine to eleven happened. 153 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: My in laws had a friend in the neighborhood who 154 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: was in New York City and he was actually in 155 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: the bottom of the World Trade Center in the concourse 156 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 3: getting coffee when he felt the rumbling of the plane 157 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: hitting the building, and I had him on the air 158 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: we interviewed him. What he did is he knew something 159 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 3: was wrong. He had no idea what, but he got 160 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: out of there right. A rumbling tower is not good 161 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: and he ran out, didn't look back, and kept walking 162 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: and walking to the Hudson River, took a ferry across 163 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: the other to the to New Jersey cross Hudson River, 164 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: and then there he kept walking to Newark Airport, rented 165 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 3: a got into it, and drove south. The whole time 166 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: he had no idea what was going on, and he 167 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: never looked back. He just kept walking away from what 168 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: seemed like a terrible disaster. And that was like the 169 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: real life lesson of that survival book that I had 170 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: read years ago. 171 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: Just keep going. 172 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: But the problem is is if you have pets, or 173 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: you have family members that are still in your home. 174 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 4: You're going to want to write obviously your instinct is 175 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: to go and try. 176 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 6: And you can here. 177 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: No, that's the thing, you can't, you know, you think 178 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: about that for thirty seconds and call them up and 179 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: keep them on the phone and keep track as best. 180 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: You canad I know, but there's just. 181 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: A lot of people here did the right thing because 182 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: there were peoples fleeing the Palisades Highlands immediately, and they 183 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 3: weren't waiting for official word. They weren't waiting for the 184 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: mandatory evacuation or an announcement on TV or radio. They 185 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: just looked out the window and they know the terrain 186 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 3: they have, they know what the danger is. 187 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 5: Well the spire. 188 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: It happened so fast, and it grew so quickly that 189 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 4: I don't even think there was time for anybody to 190 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 4: send out any alerts. So people just said, you know what, 191 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: because now, I mean my phone is I mean, it's 192 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: lit up with tons of alerts. 193 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: Get out now. People need to evacuate now. 194 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 4: But I think when this first started, it was so 195 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: smart of people to realize that this thing is going 196 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 4: to get really out of control. 197 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: We need to go now. 198 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's the people who left it ten thirty 199 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 3: between ten thirty and eleven thirty, who are in the 200 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: best best shape right now because they reacted immediately. Ultimately, 201 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 3: you have to rely on your own senses because the 202 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: government's not going to save you. But by time, and 203 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: part of it's just logistics, right, It's not anybody's fault. 204 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: It's just you can only get the word out so quickly, 205 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 3: but by time the word goes out, you're already in 206 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 3: trouble in a case like this. 207 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: But I do understand people's hesitance to leave because you're 208 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: sitting there thinking, Oh, my gosh, what do I pack? 209 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 5: What do I take? 210 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: Oh? 211 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: Where are my animals? Do I need? Where are my 212 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 5: important documents? 213 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: I mean, you're it's such it's so overwhelming to think 214 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 4: about all the things that you need when you have 215 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: to flee. 216 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, you guess in the future, you really. 217 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: I think by now, important documents all should be online, 218 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: scanned and put online and stored away somewhere. And the 219 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: pets you just you grab the pets and do the 220 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: best you can. I mean, there's there's no perfect answer 221 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 3: in this, and there's no way to prevent these things. 222 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: You can't do anything about droughts. You can't. Well, I'd 223 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: like to find out though, what ignited this? 224 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 5: Well, what can we do about these Santa Anna wins? 225 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 2: Nothing? 226 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 5: I hate these wins. 227 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 3: This is the price of living in a place like this. 228 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: You know this, this is these this is this is 229 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: not where like the Native Americans chose to live largely right, Yeah, 230 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: because you know that you live long enough in a 231 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 3: place like this and say, wow, this is crazy, I 232 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: got to move. And people because choose because of the 233 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: beauty of it, and they pay a lot of money 234 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: to live in beauty, but beautiful places often pay. They 235 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 3: have a steep price that you have to pay for it. 236 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 3: I mean the people in Malibu. I'm astonished anybody lives 237 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: in Malibu. I mean with all the with all the 238 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: fires and the earthquakes and the flooding and the mud 239 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: slides and people dying crashes on pch every day. Most 240 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: gorgeous place, imaginable. 241 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 4: But my dream was always to live in Malibu, and 242 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's unaffordable for me, so it 243 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 4: never will happen. 244 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 5: But now I'm sort of glad. 245 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 3: Because it's it's anyway. If you if you get out, leave, 246 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: stay out, don't go back. Nothing good can happen, and 247 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: there's really nothing anybody can do about it. The firefighters 248 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 3: are going to do a hell of a job to 249 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: try to fight this thing. But how can you fight 250 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: a fire that might be blowing a fifty miles an 251 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: hour that it's simply not They can say maybe, you know, 252 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: in individual homes or neighborhood, but. 253 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 2: The overall path of the blaze is going to do 254 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 2: what it's going to do. 255 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, we're gonna take a break for news and continued 256 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 3: coverage of the fire in Pacific Palisades. 257 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 258 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 7: six forty. 259 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: We're bringing the coverage of the Pacific Palisades fire, which 260 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: is huge. 261 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: How fire Now? 262 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: John is saying that the fire is burned seven hundred 263 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: and seventy two. 264 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: Acres, so that that thing almost quadrupled in size just 265 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: in the last what two hours? Yeah, that's that's like 266 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: I've just read another weather report that they're looking at 267 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: the worst is going to be tonight. 268 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 4: That's what I was saying, which is which is crazy 269 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: because it's already been so. 270 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 3: Awful and they're looking at you know, sixty mile an 271 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: hour winds like sustained and they're looking at gusts in 272 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: certain canyons eighty to one hundred miles an hour. Also, 273 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: there's a report that the the Los Angeles Fire Department 274 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: stationed twenty three on Sunset Boulevard and Lost Lionis Drive 275 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 3: has been on fire and Cruise are responding to that 276 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: as well. Alex Stone ABC News standing on a rooftop somewhere, Alex. 277 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: Hey, you Excudney out here. Let me tell you John 278 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: and to that the fire department, the fire station that 279 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: you were just talking about. We understand the cruise got 280 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: there and it was not on fire that the reports 281 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: were coming into nine one one that people thought it was. 282 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: But there was fire around the fire station. They're in 283 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: Pacific Palisades, and then when cruise got there, it was 284 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: not on fire. But to your point about the forecast, yeah, 285 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty incredible to think that it's going 286 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: to actually pick up tonight potentially based on what has 287 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: been going on all day today. But you guys have 288 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: been talking about it. The biggest issue in Pacific Palisades 289 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: has been the evacuation and the bumper to bumper situation 290 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: of getting people out and fire engines not able to 291 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: get in and understandable. People used all lanes of traffic, 292 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: even going the wrong way to try to get out, 293 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: and that made it where the engines couldn't get in, 294 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: so that that has been a tough part. We know 295 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: that holtens have been lost, we don't know how many yet. 296 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: LAFD says that they've got to try to figure it out. 297 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: But all of this has been complicated, even though they 298 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: got the Super Scoopers up and some of the helicopters 299 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: that in this wind, you can imagine what those pilots 300 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: are going through. And we've been watching the Super Scoopers 301 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: today just the wings rocking as they've been coming in 302 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: and trying to make those drops. So they are battling 303 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: intense conditions to try to get in and drop the 304 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: water on the flames. But this is going to be 305 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: a long night. This is you think about. Pacific Palisades 306 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: is a terrible fire right now, but we don't know 307 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: what is going to happen later on tonight. And if 308 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: we get through this through tomorrow afternoon without more fires, 309 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: if this really does continue on tonight, that's going to 310 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: be somewhat of a miracle. But this could be a 311 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: really rough night. 312 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's difficult just from I'm looking at like 313 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: four different teas feeds, it's difficult to tell what's going 314 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: on because the visibility is so bad, the smoke is 315 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: so thick. 316 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and you know, I think that's kind of 317 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: the problem too, with homeowners and residents not really knowing 318 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: where the fire is, if they should go or not. 319 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: And that's why LAFD has been saying, Look, if you 320 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable, get out. Somebody is not probably going 321 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: to come to your door and say it's time to 322 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: get out because it's been moving too quickly and they 323 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: haven't been able to do that. In fact, the LAPD 324 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: had at least one officer. They were calling for a helicopter, 325 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: a rescue helicopter to get in and help the LAPD 326 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: officer get out because the officer was trapped by flames. 327 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: So it has been erratic and the word of warning 328 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: to those in the area is to just get out 329 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: at this point, and the specific policy is under an 330 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: evacuation order. They want people to get out. And if 331 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: you think that the fire is too close for you, 332 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: and if you don't have a real good way to 333 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: get out, if you live down a windy road or 334 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: in the canyons and it's anywhere close to you. Best 335 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: idea is just get out of there. 336 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, we do we know if the traffic is still 337 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: jammed getting out of Palisades Drive. 338 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Last I saw it look like it was, but it 339 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: may have lightened up right now. I mean there were people, 340 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: like there was one guy that was having car trouble. 341 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if he ran out of gas or 342 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: his car was malfunctioning, but people were pushing it along. 343 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: So there have been all kinds of different obstructions that 344 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: have played a role in that. But it's just a 345 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: lot of people trying to get out all at once 346 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: and the engines trying to get in and they've just 347 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: been sitting there with their lights on, unable to move. 348 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the this is the worst nightmare scenario. 349 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: You've covered a lot of fires, and when you have 350 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 3: a situation where you've got somewhat isolated town and there's 351 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: very few exits to leave, you can only basically go 352 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: into one direction. 353 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: In this case, it's to the south. It's just so terrifying. 354 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: And it really is. I mean people, yeah, people want 355 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: to get away from the and they've got really one 356 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: way out, and when that one way out is blocked 357 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: because of traffic, you get panicked. Now, luckily, it seems 358 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: like most people are calm. You know, We're not in 359 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: a situation like in Paradise, which we covered in northern California, 360 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: where people were unable to get out, But you do 361 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: worry about that, and I think that's going to be 362 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: a concern tonight in other areas, Not in Pacific Palisades 363 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: because that'll be emptied out, but in other areas where 364 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: there is going to be a big fire risk tonight. 365 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: These Santa Ana winds that are blowing, that have been 366 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: blowing since about eight o'clock this morning, are stronger than 367 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: what I can remember. And I've been covering fire here 368 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: for twenty years and then Colorado for five years before that, 369 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: to been northern California before that. These are some strew 370 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this is about as close as we get 371 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: to a hurricane in southern California. You know, we get 372 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: those tropical storms to come through that just kind of 373 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: dump missed for a day or two. But this wind 374 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: today has just been incredible. 375 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: All right, Alex, stay safe. Maybe we'll talk with you later. 376 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: You got it sounds good. Thanks John. 377 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 3: All right, Alex Stone for maybe news on the Pacific 378 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 3: Palisades fire. We'll continue covering this if you are in 379 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 3: Pacific Palisades or you were there this morning or early 380 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 3: this afternoon. 381 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: Tes did that not only was Lovecraft not creating things 382 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: out of his own imagination, but that he was hearing 383 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: from the same supernational. 384 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 3: Come on the air eight hundred five to two oh 385 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: one KFI. That's eight hundred five to oh one five 386 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: three four, eight hundred five to oh one five three four, 387 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: and you could tell us about your experiences with this 388 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: horrific fire today in the Palisades, and there are a 389 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: number of homes burning, There's no question about it. Every 390 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: screen I look at is isolating on a different house 391 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: on fire. 392 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 393 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 7: six forty. 394 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: Massive fire and Pacific Palisades on the west side of 395 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: La almost eight hundred acres have it's burning right now. 396 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: I mean massive flames and lots of thick smoke, homes burning, 397 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: people fleeing. There are shots that people are posting on 398 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: x video and photos of what it looks like looking 399 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 3: to the west from or looking to the north from 400 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: Santa Monica or to the west from Brentwood, and it's 401 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: this huge black doomsday cloud hanging over here's some of 402 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 3: the latest news on this. The fire was first reported 403 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: about ten thirty in the morning in the area of 404 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: Piedro Morado and Monte Hermoso Drives, and this is according 405 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 3: to the Los Angeles Fire Department spokesman David Ortiz. Cruiz 406 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: showed up by eleven twenty and estimated that the size 407 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: of the fire was two hundred acres and now it's 408 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: at seven hundred and seventy two acres, and of course 409 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: that's going up by the minute. The evacuation orders cover 410 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: the entire town of Pacific Palisades from Merrimack Road on 411 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: the northeast, west of Tepanga Canyon Road south to Pacific 412 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: Coast Highway. There's about twenty three thousand people that live 413 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: in the Palisades, and also areas along that border in 414 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: Santa Monica and Brentwood. The City of Malibu issued evacuation 415 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: orders for an area north of pch and south of 416 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: Rambia Pacifica Street between Carbon Beach Terrace to the west, 417 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 3: whilst Flores Mason Drive on the east I saw video 418 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: of the embers flying through the air. There was one 419 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: shot of just an ordinary neighborhood, and you saw the 420 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: smoke being blown from in a sideways manner, the way 421 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: you'd see in a snowstorm or a sleet storm. And 422 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: then there were these bright embers flying through the air, 423 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: just dozens of them, and in a fifty mile an 424 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 3: hour wind, those embers can go a long way and 425 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: land and set fires far beyond the origination point. 426 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 5: John, are you watching Channel five? 427 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: Yes? I am. 428 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 5: Do you see that big fire t I. 429 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 4: Don't even know how to describe it, but it's pushing 430 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 4: cars out of the way. 431 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 5: There's nobody in these cars. 432 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 4: I guess these cars are abandoned, but it's pushing them away. 433 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 4: I guess presumably to make a path. 434 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: Look at that, Yeah, because the words are jammed with 435 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: abandoned cars and the firefighters can't get up the hill. 436 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: I guess that's a bulldozer. 437 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what it is, and it's bulldozing cars. Yeah, 438 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 5: it's uh to the side of the road. 439 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: Because Alex Tone was talking about Palisades Drive, people, you know, 440 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: cross the double yellow line and you had four lanes 441 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: going now to the south north to south, which you 442 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: understand happening because two lanes isn't going to cut it. 443 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: Everybody is jammed in traffic, so. 444 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 5: It's like a parking lot of cars going different ways. 445 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: It means there's nobody in the cars, but there's no 446 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 4: rhyme or reason. I as people just literally just stopped 447 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: and just ran and they need a pathway. 448 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 449 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: Well, people had to flee because there were burning trees. 450 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: They were afraid going to fall on their car, and 451 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: then you could have the cars explode and fire. In fact, Eric, 452 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: can you find that when Kelly was on, because I'd 453 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: like to play that moment again. We had a woman 454 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 3: named Kelly who was the friend of a friend that 455 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: my wife knew, and she came on with us early 456 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: in the show and she's in the car in her 457 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: car on Palisades Drive and then the police I think, 458 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: came up to the window and told her to get 459 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: out because there was a palm tree on fire on 460 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: the corner of Sunset and Palisades about fifty feet from 461 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: where she was. 462 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: Play the clip of the yeah go ahead, What did 463 00:23:59,680 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: he say? 464 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, carr go. 465 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 5: Go okay, Oh my god, that's terrifying. 466 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's really what it was like. You got 467 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: an officer banging on your car, and I don't know 468 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 3: if that was her dog or the police dog or 469 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: what was going on, But there's been there's been no 470 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: immediate reports of any injuries or deaths, but of course 471 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 3: it'd be very difficult to get inside those neighborhoods to 472 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: verify any of that. 473 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 6: Well, what I think is happening with this bulldozer KTLA 474 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 6: zoomed in on a structure that was at the top 475 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 6: of the hill that looks like is we're at the 476 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 6: bottom of a road here where this bulldozer is, and 477 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 6: at the top of the hill there is a structure 478 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 6: on fire that KTLA zoomed in on. So I'm guessing 479 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 6: they're trying to get up to whatever structure that is. 480 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I imagine just dozens of maybe hundreds of 481 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: people abandoned their cars because everything was in gridlock. 482 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: It was it was impossible to uh, you know, you're. 483 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 3: You're trying to flee and and you hit a dead 484 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: stop and it doesn't move for a long time. That's 485 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 3: that's the only choice you have. That's the scariest thing 486 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: about living in these kind of I mean, we lived 487 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: up in the hills for a while, and I remember 488 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: we had a fire, uh not specifically in our neighborhood, 489 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: but maybe within a mile. 490 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 2: And I remember. 491 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: Just putting the kids in the car and driving downhill 492 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: with smoke swirling around all over the place, and my 493 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 3: wife's sister had to go get one of our kids 494 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: from preschool and rescue him out of the school. It's uh, 495 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's it's just basic panic. It's it's literally, uh, 496 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: fight or flight. 497 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: Uh. 498 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: Dominic who had on earlier and he escaped down the hill. 499 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: Dominic you back, I'm back, John, Thanks for having me. Well, 500 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: what what's the latest we last left you? You had 501 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: ate it down the hill. I think you were near 502 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: the beach and with your dog looking for some air 503 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: to breathe and. 504 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: What else. Do you know what's happened? 505 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, yeah, I'm happy to report I've made it 506 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: back to my office in Santa Monica. And I mentioned 507 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: earlier that what got me in the car to begin 508 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: with was the side of the smoke from my office window. 509 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: And you know, my office isn't particularly high. It's a 510 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: second story converted industrial space, but it gives you an 511 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: idea of how big the smoke is. I am staring 512 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: right now at what I would estimate to be flans 513 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: that are at least at least fifty feet tall, maybe 514 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: seventy five feet tall from where I am. Wow, and 515 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: I am extremely disturbed. I just had somebody in my 516 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: office looking at this with me. I'm really disturbed because 517 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: these flanes, and I defer to all the experts, they 518 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: look to me, John like they're moving in a new direction. 519 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: They look like they're moving towards the south east, which 520 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: is as you've noted earlier, sant Ana wins come from 521 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: the north, they come from the northeast, and in order 522 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: for this wind this fire to be swinging in the direction, 523 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: it then suggests that there's a wind ship somewhere. And 524 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: that makes me extremely nervous because even as we're talking, 525 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: this line of flames is growing, and it's got to 526 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: be a minimum, a minimum of a quarter of a 527 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: mile from the top of the ridge that I'm looking at, 528 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: down and to the left to the fire line. The 529 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: good news is that particular area is not inhabited as 530 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: far as I know. It's away from the developments, but 531 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: as far as I can tell, having been away from 532 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: here for a few hours and then back. You know, 533 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: the fire has grown in orders of magnitude, and I'm 534 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: extremely nervous. You know, I'm seeing open flames from seven 535 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: miles away. 536 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: It's disturbing, and fifty to seventy five feet because I'm 537 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: watching you know, miniature pictures video on these TV screens. 538 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: And while they look massive, the flames, there's no way 539 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: to get a context of how tall they are. You know, 540 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: I can't tell you if it's ten feet or fifty feet, 541 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 3: but it's it's it's I can't remember the last time 542 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: I saw flames this high and this intense. 543 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing that I can analogize it to 544 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: is the ninety five Malabus fires, and I think that 545 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: was ninety five, might have been ninety four, And that's 546 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: the last time I remember being able to see this 547 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: much open flame. And since we're talking, John, the hillside 548 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: has erupted and where flames are. 549 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 3: And geographically, can you estimate where the hillside is in 550 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: relation to you know, Pacific Highlands or the town of 551 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: Pacific Palisades. 552 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: It looks to me like it's in the foothills that 553 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: are essentially north of the Palisades and towards the Mandeville 554 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: Canyon area. And I just interrupting here. I saw a 555 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: very large drop of retardant right now from I can't 556 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: tell what kind of aircraft it is. It's a big 557 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: fixed wing aircraft, not the Super Scooper. It's the one 558 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: that drops retardant. And there are two of them in 559 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: the air right now, the big jets, and there's a 560 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: third aircraft that I can't till if it's helicopter something else. 561 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: I haven't seen helicopters over the fire today. My understanding 562 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: is it's far too windy for them, but the Scoopers 563 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: are apparently able to handle the wind, and the jets 564 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: are too. But this is it's beyond words. It's terrifying 565 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: to look at from where I am. So I think 566 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: the area that we're talking about is State Parkland. It 567 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: happens that I know the area really well from doing 568 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: a lot of hiking over the years, and has been 569 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: a resident in the area for as I said earlier, 570 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: fifteen years in our current house and twenty years in 571 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. I haven't seen anything like this. 572 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were talking about it, the winds blowing towards 573 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: the southeast and maybe this new flare up on the 574 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 3: hillside is to the east of the Palisades because they 575 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: have a mandatory evacuation zone stretching all the way down 576 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: Sunset Boulevard to the Riviera country Club and then all 577 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: the way as far east roughly to where twenty sixth 578 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: Street is an Allenford and there are right which is 579 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: now Brentwood. Those are Brentwood neighborhoods and it's in the 580 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: red zone, a mandatory evacuation. 581 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: Correct. We did hear from friends that Paul Revere Middle 582 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: School was evacuated and that's Allenford An approximately Sunset there 583 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: in Brentwood. I don't know if they're in session. 584 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 6: So. 585 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: As far as we know, our friends that are that 586 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: were ordered to shelter in place in the Highlands are 587 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: still there and still safe. But it does appear, you know, 588 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: when the prevailing when notwithstanding the fire is generating its 589 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: own air circulation. Yeah, and I know that that's the 590 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: fact that's known to a lot of people. It's amazing 591 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: to actually see it in action. 592 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very common in the in these huge fires. 593 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: It's there, it's its own weather system, and you really 594 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 3: don't know which way the winds are going to blow 595 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: at any given point. Dominic, we got to do the news. 596 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 3: Thank you very much for coming on again. You've actually 597 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: been quite informative. 598 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 599 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm happy to chat and thanks for hearing me out. 600 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: And again I hope everybody who can is safe and 601 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: their life limit paths, and we'll keep an eye on 602 00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: things obviously. 603 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 3: All right, Dominic, thanks again, Maybe we'll talk later. We're 604 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: gonna do the news now. 605 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 606 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 7: six forty. 607 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: We're on the radio from one until four and after 608 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: four o'clock John co Belt Show on demand. And I 609 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: had to say this, but the worst could be yet 610 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: to come. I don't think that's going out on a 611 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: limb here, because the winds are supposed to increase tonight 612 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: and into tomorrow all day tomorrow, and they are raging 613 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 3: right now and on the west side of Los Angeles 614 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: and Pacific Palisades, it looks like fireballs are erupting. 615 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 6: Do you see. 616 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what channel you have on. 617 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 5: I got channel four, I have five, and I only 618 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 5: have two TVs in here. 619 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: I got four, and everybody's got a different look, and 620 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: actually I got five on now, but Channel four has 621 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: has like this fireball that's erupting behind the neighborhood, So 622 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: there's no context for any of these videos, so I 623 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: don't know what street I'm looking at and who's homes 624 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: and what direction it is. They're also running a lot 625 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 3: of rerun footage, so you cant even It gets very confusing, 626 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: I know, but let's just say it's apocalyptic no matter 627 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 3: what direction you do you look at. All we know 628 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: for sure is that the entire Pacific Palisades area is 629 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 3: under a mandatory evacuation offer or order, and it's covered 630 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: at least seven hundred and seventy acres, and that estimate 631 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 3: was from I don't know, sometime in the last hour, 632 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: so it's it's higher than that, and there's no sign 633 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: of its slowing down because the winds really are going 634 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: to be blowing steadily, you know, thirty five to fifty 635 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,719 Speaker 3: miles an hour, and not just here and I'll get 636 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: to that in a second, and then the gusts in 637 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 3: certain canyons and passes could be sixty to eighty miles 638 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: an hour at times, depending on where you are, it 639 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 3: could crack one hundred miles an hour. And remember Hurricane 640 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: Forest winds are at about seventy five. So this is 641 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: this is unbelievable to look at, and the flames are 642 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: widespread and there really isn't anything anybody can do about it. 643 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 2: Let me read you some of the some of the 644 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: some of the latest here. 645 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 3: You know, these are the same conditions that are going 646 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: to be in San Bernardino and Riverside counties, Orange Counties, 647 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 3: they're expecting huge winds as well. Everybody who lives anywhere 648 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: near mountains and foothills should be prepared, even if you're 649 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: in the flatlands adjacent, because you have no idea what's 650 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 3: going to happen in the middle of the night. It's 651 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: like maybe you got to designate somebody of the families, 652 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: you sit on the roof and be a fire spotter. 653 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: It's it's it's really the situation. And winds are going 654 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 3: to blow all day tomorrow as well. Let me see here, 655 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 3: I'm just looking at a series of bulletins that have 656 00:34:54,840 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 3: come in. They obviously don't know what started this fire, 657 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 3: and we don't know. 658 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 4: If anybody's been hurt, no or killed. We don't know 659 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 4: how many homes have burned. We know that homes have burned. Again, 660 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 4: we haven't had a news conference. I suspect we will 661 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 4: probably have one later tonight or tomorrow. But again, these 662 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 4: firefighters are busy doing their jobs, so we'd rather them 663 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 4: save people's lives and homes and pets and not talk 664 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 4: to us. 665 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 3: And I don't think they have anything to tell us 666 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 3: that we can't see by turning around the TV or 667 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 3: listening to KFI. 668 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: Here. 669 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 3: What you're hearing from us is everything that's out there, 670 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 3: based on all the news reports we have from our 671 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 3: staff and from wire services and from the TV, it's 672 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 3: like it's massive. Most people have fled and everything's out 673 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 3: of control in Pacific Palisades. 674 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 4: Mandatory evacuations for all of Pacific Palisades. And if you can't, 675 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 4: I guess there's some area that you're told just to 676 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 4: stay home. But people have abandoned their cars on the 677 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 4: roads because they have to. 678 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 5: There was a. 679 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 4: Palm tree that was on fire, and now we had 680 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 4: this fire bulldozer having to bulldoze cars that were in 681 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 4: the way of a path. They're trying to have a path, 682 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 4: whether it's to go fight the fire. Eric had said 683 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 4: that KTLA had a shot of fire on the hillside. 684 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 4: But it's chaos and it's really sad to see that 685 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 4: people had to just abandon their cars and run for 686 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 4: their lives with a suitcase. 687 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: This also could happen just about anywhere in southern California 688 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 3: because of the winds, the wind conditions, so everybody all 689 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: across the region is on alert. It just happened to 690 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 3: start with Pacific Palisades. Whatever the ignition point was was 691 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 3: in the Palisades, and they're the first ones to deal 692 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: with it. 693 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 4: But it looks very devastating, and you know what's so 694 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 4: scary is that obviously they don't have a handle on 695 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 4: this fire. Right it's almost eight hundred acres, it's not 696 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 4: surrounded it all. And as we've said, the winds are 697 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 4: supposed to peak tonight and tomorrow morning. We have that 698 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 4: red flag warning going through Thursday. So the problem is 699 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 4: if more fires break out, I mean yeah, because there's people, 700 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 4: there's firefighters from all over, even coming from Northern California 701 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 4: that are helping the firefighters deal with this one in 702 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 4: the Palisade. So we're hoping that there's there's enough to 703 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 4: go around, right. 704 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 3: No, this was our introduction to LA when Ken and 705 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: I first came here. Within the first year there were 706 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 3: there was fires in Malibu, Laguna Beach, and Alta Dina, 707 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 3: and they put us in a helicopter and we did 708 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 3: the whole show in a helicopter over the fires. And 709 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 3: we started in Laguna and then we floated over to 710 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 3: Altadena and then finally to Malibu. I think this was 711 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 3: probably nineteen ninety three. My wife is working for Fox 712 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: eleven at the time, and she was in a helicopter. 713 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 5: Oh wow. 714 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 3: We were both in helicopters and there was massive smoke 715 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 3: over Laguna and you couldn't see the other helllicopters, and 716 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 3: I thought, great, we're both going to collide in midair. 717 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 3: And I'd never been in a helicopter before. I'd never 718 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 3: seen wildfires before. Scott Rife, who's still flying I think 719 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: for Channel seven, he took us out in the helicopter 720 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 3: and he would take us out in the ocean so 721 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 3: we could get some oxygen to breathe because it was 722 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 3: so thick. And I remember seeing these gorgeous, multimillion dollar 723 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 3: homes built on the hillsides in Laguna Beach and I 724 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 3: was just absolutely overwhelmed. I mean, I didn't know there 725 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 3: was such a thing. You know, I grew up on 726 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 3: the East Coast and we didn't have much in the 727 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: way of mountains and wildfires and none of this. 728 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 4: Why are we living in LA and we also have 729 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 4: the earthquakes. I'm really rethinking that. 730 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 2: I don't know why you're living in your list of phobia. 731 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 5: I know I may be moving soon. John, you go to. 732 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 3: Kansas, it's really flat and peaceful, but they have tornadoes. 733 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 5: Well I don't want tornadoes either. 734 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 3: All Right, we got more coming up. Deborah Mark Live 735 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 3: in the KFI twenty four hour news room. 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