1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Hey, Marlins fans, this is Eli Sussman hosting a new 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: edition of Big Fish Small Pod on the Fish on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: First Podcast channel, presented by MPT College Consulting. Final Small 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Pod of the Week from US is going to focus 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: on somebody that you probably have not thought about in 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: a long time, left hander Devin Smeltzer. Yes, he is 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: still with the Marlins organization for a second straight year, 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: and he's doing something new that caught my attention and 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: makes me wonder how it is that he could fit 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: into this Marlins major league pitching staff moving forward in 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: the not too distant future. For those watching on YouTube, 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you exactly what I'm talking about here 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: during a night off for the Marlins on Thursday. Who 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: is checking out what's going on with the minor league affiliates. 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Smeltzer is down there with tripa A Jacksonville since the 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: start of the season, putting up good numbers down there 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: through six games a one point eight ERA. He's allowed 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: just one run to this point in the season on 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: a solo home run, struck out eleven batters, and at 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: eight and a third endings less than one base runner 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: allowed per inning, and he is in several ways, a 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: different guy than who you remember from twenty twenty three 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: when he was going up and down from Jacksonville to 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Miami as like a spot starter and a mop up man. 25 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: He has changed his delivery. For one, he has lowered 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: his vertical release points by about a full foot from 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: where it was just last year. He's getting closer to 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: home plate with this side arm delivery, essentially, and the 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: results have been really good. And his role is also different, 30 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: as those numbers may be illustrated. Last year when he 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: was down in Jacksonville, he was in their rotation, he 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: was staying ready as a starter in thing stretched out. 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: He made twenty starts down there, averaged over four innings 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: per appearance. And now he is just a reliever. He 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 1: is just going one time through the order at most, 36 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: and sometimes even less than that. His role has changed 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: quite a bit for Smeltzer, as he is now, how 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: twenty eight years old. He seems older than that, but 39 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: apparently it's actually only twenty eight parts of what five 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: big league seasons that he's had, including last season with 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: the Marlins. He's entering a different phase of his career. 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: He has made this adjustment on the recommendation of Marlins 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: pitching coach Mels Todermeyer Junior. And it is working out 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: so far down there in Jacksonville right now. His most 45 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: recent appearance coming on Thursday, so he'll get a little 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: time off before he pitches again down there, and I 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: think the Marvels might be able to use him at 48 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: the big league level in the not too distant future. 49 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: Have you've been following this team in during this horrendous 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: start to the twenty twenty four season, The one constance 51 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: struggle has been the Marlins bullpen. With such a strength 52 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: last year in clutch situations, this year completely the opposite, 53 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: arguably the worst bullpen in baseball, especially when it comes 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: to how they have guys performing in notable high leverage situations. 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: And one personnel difference from last year is their supply 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: of left handed relievers. Remember last year they went about 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: as heavy with lefties as almost any major league team. 58 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: They Tanner Scott in there for basically the whole year, 59 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: Andrew Nardi for almost the whole year, Ajpuck for almost 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: the whole year. With all those guys performing pretty well, 61 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: they acquired it's Stephen Oker there for the entire year, 62 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: even at the end of the season, they acquired Matt 63 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: Moore for that final stretch run and he was good. 64 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: All those guys lefties, maybe a couple other up and 65 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: down options that I'm forgetting. Even outside of those guys 66 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: who are effective as lefty relievers, this year the balance 67 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: has been completely different. As we've really emphasized, it is 68 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: strange how many lefties are in the Marlins rotation even now. 69 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: Oh it's been most of this year. Four out of 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: five left handed starters, including aj Puck, who's still in there, 71 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: and I'm recording this right after his start on Friday. 72 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: It has been perhaps assumed recently, including by myself, that 73 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: Puck his experiment as a starter could end soon because 74 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: he is leading the Majors in walks aloud. He's not 75 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: look comfortable in that role. Could just go back into 76 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: the bullpen and help the Marlins in that capacity. Maybe 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: that does happen, especially if he does struggle again on Friday. However, 78 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: they just don't have a whole lot of alternatives at 79 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: the moment for his rotation spot. The decision very unpopular 80 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: one to send Max Meyer down to Triple A. He's 81 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: not even allowed to come up for another twelve days 82 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: or so, and the expectation is that he's going to 83 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: stay down there for quite a bit longer than that, 84 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: as the Marlins aim to limit his workload and pace 85 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: it over the course of the season. We've had plenty 86 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: of discussions about the real motivations potentially at play with Max, 87 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: Regardless he's not gonna be filling in. The assumption is 88 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: that Braxton Garrett seemed to be on track to return 89 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: from the injured list soon, that he was fully stretched 90 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: out as a starter when he made his most recent 91 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: rehab start last week and then during a bullpen session, 92 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: had a setback what they were calling a dead arm sensation, 93 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: and it's still unclear what the next steps are for Garrett. 94 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: So if his return is not imminent and you just 95 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: look at the rest of the forty man roster, like 96 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: pucks spot and the rotation as a whole could remain 97 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: as it is for the near future. So that being 98 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: the case, that bullpen is still just down to two 99 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: lefties between Scott and Nardi, both of whom have been 100 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: awful so far here in twenty twenty four. Scott can't 101 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: throw strikes, Nardi has had consistent inconsistency with strike throwing 102 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: and just missing bats in general, He's been allowing a 103 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: ton of runs, both his own and a herited runners. 104 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: It's not out of the realm of possibility that Nardi 105 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: could be optioned down to Triple A for a little 106 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: bit of a breather and a reset in the not 107 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: too distant future. Even if he does stay up, it's 108 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: still just those two left handers in this bullpen. There 109 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: are other guys towards the bottom of this group that 110 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: are expendable, Burch Smith. I have no idea how Burch 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Smith has hung around this long on the active roster. 112 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: He can be sent down, he has options. Declan Cronin 113 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: I like him a lot. I would prefer that he 114 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: stay up for the near future, but that's somebody that 115 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: still has a lot to prove in that role. Very 116 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: inexperienced at the big league level. Calvin Fouchet kind of 117 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: in the Declan Kronin role, where I've liked what I've 118 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: seen from him so far in a small sample. A 119 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: little bit redundant set to have all these right handers 120 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: in the bullpen and only two lefties and have like 121 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: zero lefties that are actually performing well with Smeltzer it 122 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: is a different look. What it should have mentioned up 123 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: top is with this change in his delivery, he has 124 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: sacrificed velocity as well. Year in the big leagues was 125 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: a soft tosser by Major League Sanders, but was averaging 126 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: eighty nine miles per hour on his fastball. This year 127 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: at Jacksonville, Smeltzer is maxing out at eighty nine miles 128 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: per hour. So he has leaned all the way into 129 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: throwing below the hitting speed, as they say, being all 130 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: the way on that extreme end of the spectrum with 131 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: his v low. If he feels that he's with this 132 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: new release point, being able to get closer to the 133 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: plate with his stride can compensate for having less vlow 134 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: that ultimately maybe that could get out relatively consistently in 135 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: the big leagues if he is back up still relatively 136 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: early on in this experiment for Smeltzer, so I'm sure 137 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: they'll have to be a bit of a more sample 138 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: that he has to show before the Marlins seriously consider 139 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: bring him up, considering he's not actually on the forty 140 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: man roster at the moment, they'd have to create space 141 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: for him. Should also mention JT. Chaugua he is about 142 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: to begin a minor league rehab assignment in TRIPAA. We'll 143 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: see how he looks. He has no minor league options. 144 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: If he is healthy, he's going to be on this 145 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 1: big league bullpen in some role. So that tightens the 146 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: flexibility for the Marlins a little bit, assuming that Shagua 147 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: progresses smoothly from here. Either way, this is a storyline 148 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: that is not expected to pay attention to. A lot 149 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: of credit goes to Smeltzer from making this adjustment, and 150 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: I'll be watching him pretty carefully moving forward. For this 151 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: Marlins team to just get any sort of consistency at 152 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: the big league level, they're going to have to have 153 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: guys that can trust in that bullpen, and Smeltzer with 154 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: this adjustment, he would not be the first quote unquote 155 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: failed starter to make that transition in to extend his 156 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: career find real meaningful success by doing something unique out 157 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: there on the mound and just taking advantage of that 158 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: different look that he brings. This has been Eli Susman 159 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: on the Small Pod presented by MPT College Consulting. 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