1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR ever give. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome inside Final Hour tonight The Jason Smith Show 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: with my best friend Mike Harmon. Paces take Game three 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: of the NBA Finals one sixteen, one oh seven. They 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: lead the series two games to one. We'll have more 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: on this game coming up in about twenty minutes. Meanwhile, 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, the more I think about it, I need 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: to stage an intervention. I need to stay. I need 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: to be the one. 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: You need to be the. 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Guy that gets the Internet generate guys leading it. I 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: need to give the intervention. You're giving the idy to 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: give the intervention. 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: So like a sermon or a graduation ceremony speech. You 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: got your tassle and everything. No, it's gonnause. I didn't 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: say tassoles. It's tassle. 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna no it's gonna be it's it is graduation season, 25 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be much more pointed than that. It's 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: not gonna be. As you walk from our halloaed hauls 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: into your futures, understand that the world, no, no, it's 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little bit more. 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: You have one of the things already written in case 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: someone asks you to do it right and break glass 31 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: in case of emergency. 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: And here's the best part. I don't need other people 33 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: because you the intervention. You get a whole bunch of people, 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: like we're all gonna sit down, all the friends or family. 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: I just I just need me, I just need You're enough? 36 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Is anybody else coming? Just one chair? I to sit down. 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: I got to sit down. I gotta sit down with you, 38 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: James Dolan and you Leon Rose, and I gotta tell you, hey, Nix, 39 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: stop embarrassing yourselves. Okay. In thirty six hours, thirty six hours, 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: the Knicks went from boy, we are an absolute destination. 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: We have a head coaching opening. We need that next 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: coach to take us to the next level. That may 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: here we are. We have a superstar that everybody loves coaching. 44 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: Everybody loves Jalen Brunson. We have a star studded roster. 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: Look how far we got, boy, we just need that coach. 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: This is gonna be anybody's gonna want this job. And 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: in thirty six hours it's become an absolute embarrassment, an 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: absolute embarrassment. And now the Knicks are oh for seven 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: seven I think now the number of teams or coaches 50 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: who have told them, yeah, we're not going to give 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: you permission to talk to our guys, Well, that's just 52 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: what that we know about, right, That's what I mean. Right, 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: So I mean right, it's it started to at least 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: it's it started. Look, we talked to Mark Stein last 55 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: night and mark Stein said, look, I reported right after, 56 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, the day Tims got fired. The two names 57 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: he was hearing the most were Jason Kidd Emeodoka right 58 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: at both their teams, the Rockets and the Mavericks said no, 59 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: you can't talk to our head coach. Okay, no permission. 60 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: So oh for two Timberwolves they wanted to talk to 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: Chris Finch. Oh for three Quinn Snyder, head coach to 62 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: the Hawks. Yeah, because Trey Young plays well in MSG 63 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: once a year. H the Hawks said, no, can't talk 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: to our guy. Okay, the Bulls and Billy Donovan not 65 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: even Billy Donovan from like two thousand and nine. Billy 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: Donovan now and the bull said no, Jay Wright, head 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: coach of Villanova, come coach, and Novia Nicks No, I'm 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: pretty much retired, non starter. Yeah, this is an absolute 69 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: embarrassment because you can you can try to dress it 70 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: up and say, well, the Knicks aren't being told no 71 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: by the code, being told no by the teams. No, no, no. 72 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: If any of these guys wanted the job, they would 73 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: say no, no, I'm interested, I want to talk to 74 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: this I want this job. And once a coach says 75 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: that we talked about this last night. Once a coach 76 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: says that he's not going back to coaching that team. 77 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Now you have to take that leap and go, okay, no, no, 78 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you. And I know that 79 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable if I want this job, bat that I 80 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: know that if I don't get it, I know I'm 81 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: not going back to my old team. That's okay, right, 82 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: because there's no way. Jason Kidd says, Hey, I really 83 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: want this job. I really want to talk to the 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: next or. Chris Finch says it or email Udoka and 85 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't work out and they go back to coach 86 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: their teams. It doesn't happen. I mean, you can always 87 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: take me call, doesn't you know? It doesn't happen these 88 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: code because the players would say the coach wants to go, 89 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: there'd be no confidence that they would rip. Whatever relationship 90 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: they had with the players is done. The fan base 91 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: would revolt. It would be an awful situation. All you 92 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: have to do is say I'm interested, and the team 93 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: loses their trump card and it's okay. Now we're just 94 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out compensation because so and so 95 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: said they want to go, right. But that's how this 96 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: is such an embarrassment. And I really the Nicks, I'm like, 97 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: stop calling teams and asking for permission. Okay, just because 98 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: you're single doesn't mean you can start calling people saying, hey, 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm single now, and I really I really like your 100 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: girlfriend guy permission to ask her to the problem. No, 101 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: I'm not stop doing it. Stop doing it right, it's 102 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: not going to happen. And all you're doing is going over. 103 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: The Knicks are now for six, oh for seven because 104 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: none of these guys have said yes. Now, maybe Jason. 105 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: I agree with Rick Bucker. We've talked about this in 106 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: the first hour of the show. I agree that I 107 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: don't think Jason Kid the know from the Mavericks is 108 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: an absolute no, because Kid, there are reports that there 109 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: was mutual interest. So maybe this could be the Mavericks 110 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: drawing a line in the sand saying you want Jason Kidd, 111 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: we want Karl Anthony Towns, or we want Oganno Nobi 112 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: or whatever it's going to be. So that could be 113 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: part of it, but it's so incredibly embarrassing for the 114 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: Knicks who now can't see Now it looks like you 115 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: can't find a guy. Now looks like there's nobody who 116 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: wants the job. And worse than that, I don't know 117 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: anybody you would call right now and say we want 118 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: you where you feel like you're the solution. You're at 119 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: the point where it's like, okay, maybe we get an 120 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: up and coming assistant that we think might be good. 121 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: Because everybody wants to feel special. Right when you get 122 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: interviewed for a job, you want to feel special. You 123 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: don't want to know that, hey, I'm one of seventeen candidates. Well, okay, 124 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: that sounds great. On theory. But if you're the seventeenth 125 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: candidate and the other sixteen guys all said no, you 126 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: don't feel great about taking that job? Chris Finch and 127 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: kid and U don't, guy? How special can you feel 128 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: when it's like, well, they asked me for permission, but 129 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: they also ask seventeen other teams. Fine, I'm not special. 130 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: Why would I risk losing this job when the team 131 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: asked for permission to talk to me, when they ask 132 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: for a whole bunch of other people as well. I'm 133 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: not gonna put my career at risk with this team, 134 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: with the Mavericks or the Rockets or the te Wolves, 135 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: when clearly the Knicks are okay talking to me. But 136 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: am I their guy? I know that I'm their guy. 137 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: If one of those guys knows, hey, we want you, 138 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: all right, it's a little bit easier for that coach 139 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: to say, yes, I want to go there because I 140 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: know i'll interview and I'm going to get that job, 141 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: and I'm going to go to the Knicks and I'm 142 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: gonna have a great coaching job. None of these guys. Now, 143 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm not commid from any of these guys going, well, 144 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: do they really like me? Or did they just blanketly 145 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: throwing out they did. They send a mass email out 146 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: to all the different owner PCs and everybody. Oh wait, 147 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: Cuban doesn't make those calls where hey, delete, delete, delete, 148 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: delete the lead. Who else do I send that to? 149 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: Do I send it to Nico Harrison? Do I gotta 150 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: go up? But what do I do? Like, so they've 151 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: biffed the part of the special part where the candidates 152 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: want to feel like, Hey, I'm okay taking this risk. 153 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: The Knicks of in thirty six hours went from we're 154 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: at destination to really don't know what we're doing. 155 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 156 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: I think some of it though, like from the team 157 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: perspective of you like your coach, but if you're looking 158 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: at the Knicks roster and you know it's now open 159 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: season and you can start asking for the world if 160 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: they do decide they want your guy players make the team, right, 161 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: I mean, we could talk about the coach being the 162 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: difference maker, you know, if you're on the edge, like 163 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: we're talking about with Rick Carlisle. And we'll get back 164 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: into it with the NBA Finals in a minute, But 165 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: in general, it's like, wait, I can get an All 166 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: Star player perhaps and some draft picks for my guy. 167 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: I mean I like him a lot, Unlike in Dallas. 168 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: He just re signed Jason Kidd on the strength of 169 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: what going on. Well, that deal was signed before you 170 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: trade it away. Luca Daci, Yeah, so does he love 171 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: the job the same as he did six months ago. 172 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out of the limb and say, even 173 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: with Cooper Flag coming in, he doesn't. Kyrie Irving may 174 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: not be back. Klay Thompson's old gives you the old 175 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: college try stay healthy, shaky. I mean, look, you're looking 176 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: at the basketball gods and you built a giant shrine, 177 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: you built a megachurch praying to all the basketball gods 178 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: for those guys to stay healthy, to get you through 179 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: a season. 180 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: The only way the Knicks and bringing up the only 181 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: way the Knicks get a win in this situation is 182 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: if they come back and it's Jason Kidd, if all 183 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: this goes through, because Kid was one of the first 184 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: names out there, Look, the first name there, but you 185 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: didn't know if you were gonna get him. So the 186 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: Knicks talk to some other people and want and look, 187 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: and that's why you look having guys like Mark stein 188 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: on because they break it down so well for saying that. Hey, 189 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: the next phase with Jason Kidd is that the Knicks 190 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: are gonna then say they're moving on to other people. 191 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: And that's gonna either force the Mavericks to act or 192 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: force Jason Kidd to act. And if they do and 193 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: they say, wait a minute, I want this job. Okay, 194 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: that's different, or the Knicks will move on. And that's 195 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: exactly where we're at right now. Where okay Jason Kidding, 196 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: the Mavericks officially say no, because the Knicks had to 197 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: get to this point they kind of if kids your guy, 198 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: you have to ask the Mavericks because when they say no, 199 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: then that forces Jason getting Okay, dude, it's up to you. 200 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: If you want this job, you gotta tell them. So 201 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: that's the that's the only win they get is if 202 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: they go back and get the guy who was there 203 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: from the beginning and it just turns out to be 204 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: a long thing. But I don't feel confident about that 205 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: right now. I know the Knicks have a plan other 206 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: than hey, we needed to move on from Tibbs, which 207 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: I get you did, but at the same time, it's well, 208 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: you can't be told no by all of these teams. 209 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Got to channel the hell out of this and that 210 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: who's gonna say yes? And where you're gonna go, So 211 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: it looks like you're in charge of this and you 212 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: make the Knicks seem like they're still a destination. That's 213 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: the thing. 214 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: The back channeling that clearly has not been done, or 215 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: trenches that got built and someone saw it and covered 216 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 3: it up. Well, I don't know what's going on here. 217 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: Why is this dirt? Like, no, let's put it back, 218 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: like you just ruined my days of planning. Uh, and 219 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: what I was doing because it wasn't communicated. Well, But 220 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: for all these teams, I can understand saying, look, I 221 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: like my coach, but let's see how desperate they are. Right, 222 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: whether it's the Mavericks or even if it was Houston 223 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: or any of these other teams, the Bulls. How desperate 224 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: are they to get my guy into their coach's chair. Yeah, 225 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: because it's not a Hey, let's see if we can 226 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: screw them and this guy will become the first assistant 227 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: and now they're without they're ruddless without a coach. No, 228 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: there's plenty of guys that are available. So I'm curious 229 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: of the strategy. Like if you got to sit down 230 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: with Rose and Doligun. So let's let's let's talk about this. 231 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: Why just guys that already have jobs, you like that 232 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: they signed a contract, that they were able and amenable to. 233 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: Come to terms. Well, they must be good because they 234 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: have jobs. I mean, I'm just saying they're better than 235 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: guys that don't have jobs, so they must be good. Like, 236 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: what have you heard about Taylor Jenkins? 237 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: Because I tried to Chance and Jenkins at the beginning, 238 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: we're talking about offense, like and we say, to hell 239 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: with defense enforcing Bruns and Carlson. Let's run up the 240 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: offensive side as best we can, and then again the 241 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: backfilling to the defensive guys when it comes down to 242 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: the rest of your starting rotation, all the way. 243 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: Into your bench. 244 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: But you've got a lot of guys with great resumes 245 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: that are sitting out there. So what is it about 246 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: a guy with the job that really attracts you. It's 247 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: like I love a man in uniform or what. 248 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: Ones was a suit. It's kind of like this is 249 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: kind of how people see How do I okay, people 250 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: who are married and have been like you get in 251 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: your forties and fifties, and people who are married, and 252 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: you think, oh, well, that person must be really a 253 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: really good husband or wife because they've been married for 254 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: twenty some odd years. Meanwhile, they could be absolute lunatics. 255 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: You don't know what happens behind closed doors, but the 256 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: general perception is, well, they have to be okay to 257 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: be mad because you look, getting divorced now happens. It happens. 258 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean what I read some I read somewhere that like, 259 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: in the next twenty years, it could be more step 260 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: families than actual you know, nuclear families. Like it's crazy, 261 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: but you know, well, okay, they must be okay if 262 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: they're married for the you know, for twenty years, but 263 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: they gave he must be redeemable somehow or she must 264 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: be redeeable somehow, and you have to look, you know, 265 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: I'm gonna catch obviously, but like, but you know, not 266 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: behind closed doors, like you know, oh my goodness, you 267 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: don't know what goes on with that relationship. It's absolutely insane. 268 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: It's like War the Roses. So I gotta explain the 269 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: millennials of the movie War the Roses. Kathleen Turner and 270 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: Michael Douglass. They hate each other, they stay married at 271 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: the end and they both die, they kill each other basically, 272 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: and Kathleen Turner's anyway, great movie, great movie. I love 273 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: the end where where Michael Douglas puts his arm on 274 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: on Kathleen Turner show, like, hey, everything is gonna be great, 275 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: and she puts her hand there and just flicks his 276 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: arm up. Still reads them. But that's kind of the 277 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: philosophy of well, they must be, you know. But at 278 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: the same time, it's like, okay, maybe not now if 279 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: you're going big game hunting, right, Like I get Jason Kidd, 280 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: I get Eric spolstra I get you know which, I 281 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: keep trying to make Eric Spolstrapp the one guy what 282 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: they're calling everybody, the one guy they haven't called his spolster, 283 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: but get stop stop but that stop you stop. That's 284 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: not gonna stop me. But I joked about it yesterday. 285 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: I stop. 286 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: They they should call Billy for Billy Donovan because he's 287 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: been there for a long time. 288 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: And they did. He's underachieving in Chicago for a long time. 289 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: Like I get the big Game. That's an extension at 290 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: the Ryan's door. But really, but I'm like, okay, Donovan 291 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: and Quinn Snyder, like really, that's we're at so far, 292 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: we're down. We're down to Quinn Snyder and Billy Donovan. 293 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: That's where A ran well. I mean Quinn Snyder. 294 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: You saw how he was able to get the best 295 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 3: out of Trey Young at the garden. If you could 296 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: do that at home forty one times a year with 297 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: whatever magic words he had, it's sarcasm, Bucket. 298 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: I really the Knixt, I mean they. I can't get 299 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: over how fast they went from We're the next to 300 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: now Yeah, no, same old, We're back to being the 301 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: same old next man, same old next. We can't get 302 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: anybody to come in and be the head coach. It 303 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: doesn't matter where. We're gonna biff this search entirely right 304 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: from the beginning, and we're going to show you we 305 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: really don't know what we're doing. 306 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: There's still like thirty five guys that are waiting for that. 307 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: How many more names tomorrow? Three more names tomorrow? Four 308 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: more names tomorrow? How many wait? Tomorrow is only Thursday. 309 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: We still have two more days of this just for 310 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: this week, only fifteen. 311 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: More days to the draft. So I would say tomorrow, 312 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: maybe we find out the Cavs say no for Atkinson. 313 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: The Celtics say no. From Missoula. I think that tomorrow 314 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: that might work outright, very good? Yeah, find out. I 315 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: mean they got to go in thirty six hours. How 316 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: do you completely ruin your image in thirty six I 317 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: mean we've seen it at Hollywood h here, but you 318 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: can do that pretty fast. Thirty six hours you've done that. 319 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Exit out about at Fresco Exit Swallen Dome. 320 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: Jason Smith, Mike Carman live from the Fox Sports radios. Dude, 321 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: forget docs here too. Stop. Okay, we're going to talk 322 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: about that because you need to stop trying to make 323 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: doc Rivers happen. One guy can't stop. Not gonna call 324 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: him right now. You never stopped, never stopping. Look, we'll 325 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: get you there, We'll get we'll get to that, and 326 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get doc rivers phone over from you. Also, 327 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: we got that coming up next. And how are the 328 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: Pacers two games away from winning the Larry O'Brien Trophy. 329 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: We tell you the two reasons why, and it's something 330 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: you haven't heard. Break down of the Pacers up until 331 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: this point of the playoffs. 332 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: Thanks all, it's very good, very good. Those are the 333 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: two reasons. 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Now, I guess it goes to 361 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: say something where after Game three, Pacers come from behind, 362 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: they beat the thunder take a two games to one lead. 363 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: The person I was most interested in hearing from following 364 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: the game tonight, it's probably Kelsey Plum. Yeah, No, you're right, 365 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: what's Carlisle gonna say? You know, what's SGA gonna say? 366 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: What's Halliburton gonna say? You know, maybe Halliburton says something funny, 367 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: But Kelsey Plumb has become Hey wait, I want to 368 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: see what she has to say after game. You like 369 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: that video I sent you from the last game, Oh 370 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: my goodness, that was outstanding. 371 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: I don't know that we could have edited that properly 372 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: to where it's still had meaning. There were so many 373 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: explotives thrown in about officiating. 374 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm like, wait a minute, you know she 375 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: played her old team tonight and the Sparks beat the Aces, 376 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: and the Aces are just absolutely foundering right now. And 377 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: oh okay, you know what, what what did Kelsey Plumb 378 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: have to say following the She's become like must listen TV? 379 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: Well, I mean you look at the talking about falls 380 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: and officiating all the way through, I mean tonight, as 381 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: you look at the game in ninety seven eighty nine, 382 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: is your fine? Don't uh did get to the free 383 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: throw line nine times? Had been complaining she only got 384 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 3: there you know six? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you 385 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: took the. 386 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: Over yeah yeah, tonight that yeah, And that's what makes 387 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: her so much fun? Is that? Look for part of 388 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: the WNBA waiting for Kitlyn Clark to come back and 389 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: maybe scares back on something was that the Indiana Pacers 390 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: PACs are undefeated when Clark is at games. Kelsey Plump, 391 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: did she take her time to heal? 392 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 5: Uh? 393 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah on the beach and then she stabs him in 394 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: the back and go uh? Is that looked so much 395 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: of the of what said right now, we're looking at 396 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: the personalities of the players in the w right, We're 397 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: putting the personalities of Kitlyn Clark and Angel Reese and 398 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: and Asian Wilson and all these players and Brianna Stewart. 399 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: But you know, the the the discussion really has been 400 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: in an area that gets a little tired, you know, 401 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 1: the jealousy and the race angle of different things. And 402 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: it's a conversation that you know, w NBA doesn't want 403 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: this to happen, right, But this has been the conversation 404 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: of jealousy for Kitlyn Clark and and and that's been 405 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: a story now for all over the past. Like Kelsey 406 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: Plumb is, Hey, I got stuff to say about what 407 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: goes on on the court, and I'm really pissed off, 408 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: like you had the big posters were saying, I can't 409 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: believe Paige Becker's is talking smack to me, like these 410 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: rookies are saying, I don't believe it. Like that went viral. 411 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: And then what she said after last game, I get hacked, 412 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: I get hit, I got scratched over me and they 413 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: don't call blank and fouls and I blank don't get 414 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: to the free throat line. And you see coach is 415 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: just sitting next to her nodding your head. 416 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 3: You said, I'm banking done, but it sits back and 417 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: Coach leaning. 418 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: Like, all right, how do I follow what Kelsey Plumb is. 419 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: I want to hear. I want to hear more about this. 420 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: This is outstanding. I got some thoughts, Kelsey Plumb, maybe 421 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: is gonna be that that loose cannon that part. I'm 422 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: just going to tell you what I thought. Okay, it's 423 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: on the court, and this is what I don't like, 424 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: and this is out it's being officiated. Yeah, give me 425 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: more of that. 426 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, the veteran players want their dam 427 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: and the sun now too, right, I mean, everybody paying 428 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: attention to the rookies and second year. I'm still trying 429 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: to translate what all went down in that back and 430 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: forth with Paige Beckers, because I couldn't quite understand what 431 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: Becker's was saying. 432 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: I think the next time I play, I'm gonna score 433 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: on you from right here, something like that. This is 434 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: my spot on the court were I'm gonna score on 435 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: you on. And that's why Kelsey Plump said, okay, you 436 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: heard it right here first whatever it was, okay, that's well, 437 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: she was clear what she was saying, like with Becker's 438 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: trying to translate because she was kind of covering up 439 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: her face almost like she didn't want the person. 440 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: With the camera to hear what she had to say. 441 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: But all of that, you know that the veterans want 442 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 3: their day in the sun too. Write with the new 443 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: found audience and exposure and everything else, like here's my 444 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: opportunity to shine, and after the last game, she certainly 445 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: took every opportunity. 446 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the find was. Did 447 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: you see a disclosure of that I know, or did they. 448 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: Just applaud her saying we got something else that was 449 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 3: an angel recent gatelin. 450 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: I think they just said, hey, don't do it again, 451 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: because that's like as bad. You know, that's like a 452 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: now that's like what the maximum fine in the NBA, 453 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: like how she went off of appreciated like the maximum 454 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: find you. 455 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: Because it wasn't just that wow that you know, there 456 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: were a couple of calls I didn't like. It was 457 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 3: blank this guy and that I. 458 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: Found every single time I go to the wreck, I 459 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: got scratches all over me and I only got six 460 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: free throws. That was the best. 461 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: I'm nice to the guys, I pray before they get like. 462 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: You went and full in Oh yeah, yeah, great speech 463 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: exit out about a Fresca exit Swallen Dome, Jason Smith, 464 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now 465 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: game three, I did not a lot of crazy stuff 466 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: was said after Game three. Look, the Pacers, you know, 467 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, being halfway to their goal. And 468 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, there's two big things about Indiana to saying 469 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: the next few minutes. Number one thing is something that 470 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: we kind of said half kiddingly a week ago, and 471 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: that is that, you know, hey boy, that the Pacers 472 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: kind of seem like maybe they're a team of destiny. 473 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: And now after tonight it's, oh, maybe the Pacers are 474 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: a team of destiny, Like they have everything you would 475 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: need in a team. Like at the end, if they 476 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: win the title with the back and go, how are 477 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: we so stupid? All the signs were there, all the 478 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: comebacks the first round against the Bucks, right, sending the 479 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Cavaliers home, that's not enough. Beating the Knicks with an 480 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: all time comeback we've never seen before in NBA history. 481 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: In Game one, right, Halliburton's dad is allowed to come 482 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: back to the games, and Halliburton has the best game 483 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: of his career. In Game four, right, I talked about 484 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark. There undefeated when she comes to the games. 485 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: Reggie Miller broadcast in the games. Here they are in 486 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. Now they're winning a big shot by 487 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: Halliburton in Game one. Whenever they need something, Benedict Mathrin 488 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: comes off the bench and scores thirty eight points in 489 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: four minutes like he did tonight. Like it really seems 490 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: like they're the Team of Destiny, like and you couldn't 491 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: write it out more. And it's like they went from 492 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: this little engine that could what a great story. They 493 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: are small market Indiana patients. Now, oh wait a minute minute, 494 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: they're doing everything you would expect of a team. And hey, 495 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: we're a team of Do you look up Team of 496 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: Destiny in the dictionary. It's a picture of our guys 497 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: on that page. 498 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 3: It's funny. Six days ago I retweeted it a little 499 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: bit earlier. You posited that. Five days ago it started 500 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: to make the round. So thanks for listening, y'all for 501 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 3: being on board with the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon. 502 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: Evangelize to your friends and neighbors. But it is a 503 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: curious squad right fourth quarters the ice in the veins 504 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 3: from Haliburton on down, and we know his just insane 505 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: stats in the final two minutes of games to tie 506 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: a game or go ahead, just his his shooting percentage, 507 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: just through the roof, and he's gotten all the accolades 508 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: for that. As a he fills the box score across 509 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: the way. There's there's no question about it. But the 510 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 3: number of other players, whether it be Nie Smith, your 511 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: nemesis and nem hard Obi Toppin as a guy with 512 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: the flush on the put back dunks or a guy 513 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 3: piling up three point shots as we've seen him do 514 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: in other games throughout these playoffs. It's just a hero 515 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: all the way down the roster going ten d And 516 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: we talked with Rick Buker about it. 517 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: When you talk about. 518 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: What you're able to do with Carlisle and how he 519 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: was utilizing the bench and monitoring minutes and getting guys 520 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: rest early, knowing that late they were going to need 521 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 3: a surge to take care of business at home. I mean, 522 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 3: it's been a masterclass all across and for a roster 523 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 3: that was. 524 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: Middling in the regular season, fifty wins. 525 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: Well from January first on down, only one team had 526 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: more wins and right now they're up on two games 527 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: to one, So. 528 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: Why are they up two games one. Why is suddenly 529 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: this Pacers team? Why have they gone from Hey, they're 530 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: a great story too. Woll wait, they're two games away 531 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: from winning the title. This is a team and getting 532 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: to Halliburton because this is another top we talked on 533 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: the show. Is that. Listen, if you're a great player, 534 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: I need you to be motivated all the time, not 535 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: just motivated when someone says you're overrated, or when you're 536 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: coming off you have a bad game because you're just 537 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: brain cramp, whatever it is. So I need a little 538 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: bit more from Tyrese Halliburton as far as that goes, right, 539 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: if you're a great player, you can't take a couple 540 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: of games off in the series where you just don't 541 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: get into it right. Anthony Edwards did that and that's 542 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: why he's home. Well, but most of his work is 543 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: done at the in the scoring right. 544 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: Sure, as at least with Haliburton, you see you're seeing 545 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: other contributions. 546 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: But the two big words I'm gonna throw at you 547 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: in the next couple of minutes. Number one is overlooked 548 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: because this is a Pacers team that is filled with 549 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: guys who have been overlooked at some point in their career, 550 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: including their head coach, Rick Carlisle, who's got a championship, 551 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: but nobody talks about him as one of the great 552 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: head coaches in the NBA. You get a list a 553 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: great head coach and we go is Steve Curry, Eric Spolstra, 554 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: and then you look for, well, Mizula just won the 555 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: title last year, and you go, you don't. Rick Carlisle 556 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: never comes to mind, right, But this is a team 557 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: that he has put together that is deep, that is 558 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: able to play at a high tempo all the time 559 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: because you can play. He plays nine guys coming off 560 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: the bench a lot of minutes. But you look at 561 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: the players that he relies on. Over half the guys 562 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: on the team have all been overlooked at some point 563 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 1: in their career and they are feeding off of that. 564 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 5: Now. 565 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: Look, Halliburton's been feeding off the players who said he 566 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: was overrated for the entire playoff right now. He is 567 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: a guy that got drafted by the Kings, got traded 568 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: to the Pacers, and then we got to the Pacers. Bang, 569 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: he became an elite level player. Right He's been dealing 570 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: with overlooked in his career. Pascal siakam dealing with being 571 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: overlooked in his career because on those great Toronto teams, well, 572 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: it was obviously Kawhi Leonard, it was also Fred van Vliet, 573 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam. He's playing like Pete Kevin Durant in this playoff, right, 574 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: TJ McConnell, who's been overlooked throughout his career. Hey, no 575 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: one's gonna give him a starting job and be a 576 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: guy playing twenty nine minutes a game. But in the 577 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen minutes he plays off the bench, he 578 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: comes on with a motor that he becomes instantly the 579 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: most dislike player on the court. Like he's a guy 580 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: in pickup that you just want to foul hard all 581 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: the time because he just buses you off. That he's 582 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: always yeah, yeah, yeah, give me the ball, yeah yah 583 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Like that's TJ McConnell. But that's what players 584 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: who were overlooked look like. Mathern, who's coming off the 585 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: bench still for the Pacers, even though he was a 586 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: big scorer coming out of Arizona. He's always done this. 587 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: You know, he's coming up on the end of his 588 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: rookie deal. He wants a big contract. Wait, I'm more 589 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: than just a bench player. I gotta show you what 590 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: I can do. It's a perfect moment in time for them, 591 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: because this is not something that you can sustain for 592 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: season after season and play. Hey, I've been overlooked. I've 593 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: been overlooked. But this is you're talking about four or 594 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: five players, and I could throw Niesmith in there too, 595 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: and I can throw Nembard and Miles Turner, who's been 596 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: overlooked his entire career. He's played with the Pacers and 597 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: he's been pretty good and pretty consistent. He'll always hit 598 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: a three now at the end of the game, and 599 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: you think, why that was this guy hitting a three 600 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: right now? No, and it's an awkward looking bank. But 601 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: this is one moment where you can play that card. 602 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: And they're all playing the overlooked card. And nobody is hungrier, 603 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: because that's the second word I'm gonna give you. Nobody 604 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: is hungrier to win a game and the Pacers are. 605 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean other players other teams don't want to win 606 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: and there lazy and they quit. But the Pacers just 607 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: take that to the next level. Like you see when 608 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: you see Halliburton go to the bench, go to the bench, 609 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: You think, okay, most teams it's let's try to play 610 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: the next few minutes even right, Let's not get let's 611 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: not give the lead away. Like Jalen Brunson when he 612 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: goes to the bench, the Nick say, well, maybe with 613 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: Duce McBride, we keep the lead at you know, where 614 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: we are at eight, or maybe you know, if we 615 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: lose one point, maybe we gain a point. But the 616 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: Pacers bench comes out and it's we're going to extend 617 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: this lead. And it's Matherin coming in and taking all 618 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: kinds of shots and hitting them, and it's McConnell being 619 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: a ten to five guy, and it's obi Topping talk 620 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: about being overlooked. Another guy that couldn't even get on 621 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: the court with the Knicks because well they brought him 622 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: along slow and he played Julius Randall's position. The Knicks thought, 623 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, we have a guy who's really good to 624 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: plays your position. There's nowhere to go for you, so 625 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: we'll trade you away. Top and wants to show I 626 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: want to start someplace. I've been overlooked my whole career. 627 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: The overlooked and the hungry in it, and the hunger 628 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: that these guys have when they're out there, like they 629 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: out hunger everybody. They out hunger everybody they play against. 630 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: And again it's not like the Thunder, I feel like 631 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: they're flat. But it's just that this Pacers team, this month, 632 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: moment in time, is taking that chip on their shoulder 633 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: of being overlooked in the hunger and they are manifesting 634 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: it in the best way possible. 635 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Coddle the first ten to five and five off 636 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: the bench in finals history. So there you go, because 637 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: we have a stat for everything, don't you know, ten 638 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: years in long career to get to this point. But 639 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: to go back to Rick Carlisle, let's go back to 640 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: the head of the snake as it were. 641 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Would you realize that he if they equaled their win 642 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: total from this year the Pacers, he will pass Rick 643 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: Adelman to be the tenth winningest head coach in NBA history. Yeah, 644 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: very quiet, Oh yeah, yeah right, because twenty eleven is 645 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: a long time ago. Back to see what he looked 646 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: like in twenty eleven compared to what he looked like now, 647 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: and you go, oh, he has been around a long time. Wow, 648 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle, Robert Carlisle, I mean, you know, you go 649 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: for twenty eight days later, twenty eight weeks later, you 650 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: see the difference in Robert. No, that's it. But just 651 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: to say the consistent Robert Carlin. 652 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: Stuff didn't start getting a little lot stuff. That's nicely 653 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 3: done everybody. But yeah, he's got nine hundred and ninety 654 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 3: three career regular season wins. So the models of consistency 655 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: and why he's been through every test, and you see 656 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: it in this squad in the fourth quarter. Go back 657 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: to Game one, right, the shooting acumen, but taking care 658 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: of the basketball after a miserable start. You know, in 659 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: game adjustments. We can joke about it and chuckle about, 660 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 3: you know, the whiteboard and whatever else. It's clear time 661 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: and again that when it comes to the fourth quarter 662 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: this team has a focus. They were down again today. 663 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: What happened. 664 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 3: Great possessions defensively, great rotations limiting the thunder to bad 665 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: looks and a bunch of free throws right, and taking 666 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: care of business on the offensive end. Again, it doesn't 667 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: matter who the star of the day is. Everybody gets 668 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: fed and everybody gets him into the winning circle. So 669 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: like you're looking at a squad that it's pretty fun. 670 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: So six days ago kind of ingest about the pick 671 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: of destiny, the team of destiny picked up a bunch. 672 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 3: Thank you again for listening. But here we are on 673 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: the cusp of the Indiana Pacers. Someone out there is 674 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: holding one hundred and twenty five to one diket. 675 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: Telling you overlooked hunger, two biggest things about the Pacer. 676 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm hungry. Let's get a taco. Tell you how to 677 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: find out what's trending in the wide world of sports. 678 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: So someone who's been called the John Halliburt and the 679 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Huh, she's been banned from NBA arenas. Oh, 680 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: it's Monty Belaga, but they've let me back in. Okay, good, 681 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: So we're good. Joe sitting a booth behind glass like him. 682 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not. 683 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 5: Allowed to give you the full details of my many 684 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 5: situation is exactly you know what I'm saying. 685 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it exactly. Yeah, guys, I'm with you. 686 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 5: I did not think that the Pacers could get this far, 687 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 5: scoring by committee, and that's really what it's been. It 688 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 5: does seem like a team of destiny, hunger, desperation, underrated 689 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 5: over whatever it is. But Pacers now have a two 690 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 5: to one lead over the Thunder in the NBA Finals, 691 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 5: coming out on top one sixteen to one oh seven. Yeah, 692 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 5: Pacers were down in the fourth quarter and we've seen 693 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 5: them come back and still win the game, outscoring OKC 694 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 5: thirty two to eighteen. 695 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburn was just shy have a triple double. 696 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 5: But ben Adict Mathrin off the bench, was the leading 697 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 5: scorer of the game. He had twenty seven points. Shake 698 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 5: Gil just Alexander twenty four points, only three came in 699 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. He also had eight rebounds and four assists. 700 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 5: Okase made one shot in the final like six minutes 701 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 5: of the game. It was a Jayalen Williams shot that 702 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 5: put them up to one hundred and they ended one 703 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 5: oh seven. Those other seven points were just free throws 704 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 5: that they hit. Here is Rick Carlisle, head coach of 705 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 5: the Pacers after the game. 706 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 4: TJ just brought a will, competitive will to the game. 707 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 4: You know, Mathurn jumped in there and immediately was aggressive 708 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 4: and got the ball in the basket. And you know, look, 709 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 4: this is the kind of team that we are. We 710 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: need everybody to be ready. It's not always going to 711 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: be exact eactly the same guys that are stepping up 712 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 4: with scoring and stuff like that, but you know this 713 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 4: is this is how we got to do it, and 714 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 4: we got to do it as a team, and and 715 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 4: you know, we got to make it as hard as 716 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: possible on them. 717 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, Team of Destiny and Game four will be on Friday. 718 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 5: Not to be confused in some games have had three 719 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 5: days of rest in between. 720 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: Other Friday Friday, the fourth Friday. Yay Friday, Friday, July 721 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: fourth is the next game. Yeah, sure sure. 722 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 5: Chicago Sports Network reports that the Knicks requested to speak 723 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 5: to Bulls head coach Billy Donovan about their head coaching vacancy, 724 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 5: but we're denied. 725 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: So added the Bulls to the list. Also were denied. 726 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 5: Yes, so it's not looking so hot for them. And 727 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 5: Baseball Met's pitcher David Peterson toss a complete game shutout 728 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 5: in New York defeated the Nationals five zero. Juan Soto 729 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 5: has also had a two run homer. The Dodgers top 730 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 5: the Padres in San Diego five to two. The Giants 731 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 5: have won seven in a row after rolling past the 732 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 5: Rockies ten to seven. 733 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: So, with all that being said, manci who has the 734 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: best record in baseball? Right now? You know who has 735 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: the best record in baseball? Now? 736 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 5: I don't have that in front of me, right, the Dodgers. 737 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 5: If you don't have the Mets have the best record 738 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 5: in baseball, I have forty four and twenty and twenty four. 739 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 5: The Tigers are right there. 740 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: They're forty four and twenty five. The Tigers. Yeah, the Tigers. 741 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: Not the Tigers. 742 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: The Tigers say. Lost to the Orioles. 743 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 5: It got crushed by Baltimore ten to one. Aaron Judge 744 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 5: did his twenty fifth homer of the season as a 745 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 5: Yankees outscored the Royals six to three. Angels completed a 746 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 5: three game sweep of the A's with a six to 747 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 5: five win. In the WNBA, the Storm outscored the Links 748 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 5: ninety for eighty four. Handy Minnesota their first loss of 749 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 5: the season, and the NFLPA says that Eagles running back 750 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 5: Saquon Barkley led all NFL players in sales of officially 751 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 5: licensed products from March twenty twenty four to February twenty 752 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 5: twenty five, the first running back to take the number 753 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 5: one spot since Ezekiel Elliott in twenty seventeen. 754 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: Way back when he was good. Ago. 755 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like a like a whole lifetime ago. 756 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: Right, Oh, guys, that was fun. Back to you. Thanks 757 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of monsie yes. Coming up next, well, we'll 758 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: have a big bold prediction for Game four of the 759 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: NBAF I mean a big bold prediction for one star 760 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: for Game four of the NBA Final. I'll tell you 761 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: why this series is going seven. That's next. Jason to Mike. 762 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 763 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 764 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: pm Pacific. 765 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with My best 766 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: friend Mike Harmon. Can't get away pace, just take Game three. 767 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: We'll have a big Bowl prediction for Game four coming 768 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: up in a minute. But the Thunder to a man 769 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: after tonight's game, talked about the unforced errors they had 770 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: tonight that you know, SGA saying, listen, we made a 771 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: lot of mistakes and the Pacers are a good team. 772 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: They took advantage of them. Not a lot of panic, 773 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: which is good. But you want to ride that line 774 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: a little bit from everything is fine to we have 775 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: to have the biggest sense of urgency right now. You 776 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: don't want to go down three to one, clean up, sloppiness, 777 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: all that. So you want to be able to do that. 778 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: And I get it and look, and this is why 779 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: this series is going seven, which is great for everybody. Right, 780 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: the series goes seven because neither team has the ability 781 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: to just throw the hammer down and say we're we 782 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: after a couple of games, we got the lay of 783 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: the land. Now we're gonna outdo you and we're taking 784 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: control of this series. Right. It's a game by game 785 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: thing where a team is gonna win a game. The 786 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: next game the other team is gonna adjust because these 787 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: are two best teams in the NBA. Now, the Thunder 788 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: been the best team all season. What I said after 789 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: Game two, Hey, the bench is gonna play big for 790 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: the Pacers. They're going home mathering tonight, tuddah. But eventually 791 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: game four, the Thunder will find a way to adjust 792 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: to the Pacers and you're gonna get a big performance. 793 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be two two going back to Oklahoma City. 794 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 3: Well you're going big with SGA and I saw you 795 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 3: scrolling forty down on your. 796 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: Sh that's the thing, that's my bolt. But for game four, 797 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: Gildas Alexander knows he didn't have a great game tonight. 798 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: Now for everybody, which I'd love to have a bad 799 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: game where I score twenty four and shoot basically forty 800 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: eight percent from the floor. But you saw big misshots late, 801 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: you saw turnovers, you saw a couple of plays where 802 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: defensive league. That's right. He just didn't look like he 803 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: even cared. You know, the big in your face. I know, hey, 804 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna give me forty eight minutes. Now I know 805 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: what I expect. Like, now, that was not it. Why 806 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: did I pick the thunder because I know SGA is 807 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: always gonna compete, And what did I see him do tonight? 808 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: Sometimes he quit like he missed that big shot in 809 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: the final minute and then just watched Sakham run down 810 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: behind him for a layup that was an eight point 811 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: lead and the game was over right, Like, that's not 812 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: what SGA does. This guy is the MVP of the league, 813 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: and I have confidence that he understands the kind of 814 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: game that he had and he can't have that again. 815 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 3: No, otherwise you're gonna look at people verbally, they're gonna 816 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 3: get him. Billy Batch treatment verse read that you've got 817 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 3: to come out with a sense of urgency, Like the 818 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 3: turnovers were. 819 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: Terrible, like they were unforced and the only loppy play 820 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 1: he got to the free throw line six times tonight, 821 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: which is not what he does, and so I feel 822 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: pretty confident MVPs know when they got an MVP, right sga, Hey, 823 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: MVP got an MVP. Game four, he scores forty a 824 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: near triple double, the Thunder win, and they go back 825 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: to Oklahoma City tied to to like this is this 826 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: is this is when MVP's MVP and he's going for 827 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: a forty burger near triple double. Game five will be 828 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: okay now to the Thunder out control of the series. 829 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: It'll be too two going back. But watch the game 830 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: he has in Game four. 831 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, Thunder with an imperfect game, no doubt. Even through 832 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 3: the three quarters, right had a five point lead. You 833 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 3: saw Chet started fast, didn't have much late. Lou Dord 834 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 3: had his four to three point shots very quiet once again. 835 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 3: Fourth quarter Pacers defense and pace on offense creating issues 836 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 3: and bad possessions for the Thunders. So uh yeah, I 837 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 3: wrapped attention. The Thunder are a six point road favorite, 838 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 3: up from five and a half for Game three. 839 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: Which is a little weird and it's kind of a 840 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: trap line that whoa wait, so the Pacers have to 841 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: winning this game. They're dogs for Game four. Oh, I'm 842 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: going Pacers and say, hey, let's rake this. 843 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 3: Still he is still dogs for the series, but it 844 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 3: feels like a trap game thirty. 845 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like a trap game clear, But it's 846 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: like they could take it. They could win the series 847 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: basically if they take Game four at home where they 848 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: just won. And still that's where we're at under minus 849 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: six thunder thunder and Game four SGA forty and a 850 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: near triple double. And he does it, and we're talking 851 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: about wow, MVP man, the MVP stands up, the MVP 852 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: has a great game, and what do we get. That's 853 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. 854 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 3: Well, and Alex Krusolli have a much better game than 855 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 3: he did today. Minus fifteen and a non factor off 856 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 3: the bench. 857 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: Not many people were big factors, not the very quiet 858 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: only eighteen bench points. Yeah, the thunder and and and 859 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: and the other thing the Pacers have done that that 860 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a bit of a change 861 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 1: in Game four is that nobody has navigated the final 862 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: six minutes of playoffs like the Pacers out in recent history. 863 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: Nobody does it. Nobody dominates the final six minutes like 864 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: the Pacers do. Right tonight, the Thunder had one bucket 865 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: in the final six minutes, but six minutes coming and 866 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: again ten years I think I've seen since led go 867 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: back to the Warriors the first time with their dynasty 868 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: where they were able to control the end of games 869 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: like this, the Pacers have been able to do it. 870 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: Thunder flip the script in game four. In the end, 871 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: they throw the hammer down. They take Game four, and 872 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: then it's all about Carlisle. Oh well, the Knicks call 873 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: h Randy Carlyle, former defenseman of the Pittsburgh Penguines. Don't Carlisle, 874 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: You know. 875 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 3: Carlisle, former point guard for the Northwestern Wildcat Carlile who. 876 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: Ran the Vampire family in the In the Flight Carlisle