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Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Marula, I'm terribly excited that we've come to Toronto

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Speaker 2: on holiday. It's so lovely to take in the shows.

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Speaker 2: And they really do have a bustling little theater stect here.

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Speaker 2: I'm really quite excited.

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Speaker 3: Is that only one?

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Speaker 1: Koby?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Can I say hi? Can I say hi?

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Speaker 2: Must I suffer this eternity?

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Speaker 3: Are you Obi Wan Kenobi the wise man Obi Wan

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Speaker 3: from Star Wars? You are my father?

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Speaker 2: Hi ay the young boy?

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Speaker 3: Will you sign my lightsabers? I've watched Star Wars over

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Speaker 3: twenty million times. My mommy lets me watch you when

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Speaker 3: I finish my homework, even sometimes I haven't finished my homework.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go to Star Wars in full of Star

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Speaker 3: Wars Celebration of Florida next summer for my holiday, and

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Speaker 3: I want to watch it every day.

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Speaker 2: What a treadful, dreadful place to another day. What's your name?

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Speaker 1: David?

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Speaker 2: David? David?

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Speaker 3: I'm six years old in three quarters and I'm for

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Speaker 3: to one.

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Speaker 2: Well, spare me the mathematics. Listen, David, let me give

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Speaker 2: you a little bit of a mission, all right. You

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Speaker 2: think you can go on a mission for me? Yes?

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Speaker 3: So we want anything for you. I'm your Luke Skywalker.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful. Okay, here's your mission. So you're familiar with the

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Speaker 2: film Star Wars.

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Speaker 3: Of course, it's my favorite movie, even more than Wrecked

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Speaker 3: Ralph two.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Well your mission is you are never to

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Speaker 2: see that film ever again.

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Speaker 1: What hope we want?

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Speaker 2: And perhaps one day you will be sound of mind

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Speaker 2: and you can put your attention towards something a bit

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Speaker 2: more mature, a bit more cultured, a bit more worldly,

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Speaker 2: that will actually give you a bit of strength to

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Speaker 2: deal with this great wide world out there, and not

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Speaker 2: the fantasy one of children that you seem to be

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Speaker 2: living in.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I understand, obi wa. You don't want even watch

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Speaker 3: Star Wars anymore?

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Speaker 2: Oh dear, oh god, I've made him cry, hobby, I don't. Oh,

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Speaker 2: just give me the bloody lightsaber. I'll sign it for you.

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Speaker 3: You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, David. We have to get the skytrain.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't signed my lightsaber yet.

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Speaker 2: In my day, children, wed Volkner.

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Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends.

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Speaker 2: You've filthy horse. Your husband's gone, and we've got books

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Speaker 2: and a bottle of wine.

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Speaker 1: To kill it's Hollywood, it's books, it's gossip. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it's memoir.

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Speaker 3: It's Martini.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity poop Club. Read it while it's hot, Celerity poop Club.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell your secrets.

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Speaker 1: We won't talk celebrity books.

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Speaker 2: No boys are a loud celet book, say it loud

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Speaker 2: and pound.

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Speaker 1: Celevetly book club.

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Speaker 3: Buzz me in.

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Speaker 2: I brought the queer vow helly friend.

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Speaker 3: Oh hello, dear mate, chum, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Chap, my dearest chum. It's been several decades, but it's

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Speaker 2: good to see you looking fit as a fiddle despite

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Speaker 2: having lost an eye.

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Speaker 3: You look absolutely well, even though you are one hundred

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Speaker 3: and two. And I think the last time we saw

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Speaker 3: each other was an honor a play we did for

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Speaker 3: a Norwegian cruise ship in nineteen sixty one. Was it Macbeth?

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Speaker 2: Dear? I believe it was king Lear, But of course

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Speaker 2: I can't remember anything anymore because I'm three hundred and

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Speaker 2: five years old. You do look well, though.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: You also look tan. Do you want to say it,

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Speaker 2: but you can't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a refreshness, kind of like you've come out

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Speaker 3: of a long sleep, like a bear, like a thin bear.

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Speaker 2: An Ottawe might say you look very refreshed as well.

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Speaker 2: You look like you've been doing a lot of light

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Speaker 2: regional trips.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know a lot of light regional ships. I

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Speaker 3: should be tan. I hope. I just got back from

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Speaker 3: four days is in the famous Fire Island.

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Speaker 2: So and were you beaching?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Imagine if I wasn't wow, maybe.

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Speaker 2: Were you being like ten am, we're going out, We're

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Speaker 3: Well, the house had like a pool, and you're gonna

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Speaker 3: hear all about that in the VIP lounge as well

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Speaker 3: as why Stephens tan and that mystery. But it was

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Speaker 3: idol sunglasses, putting on suntan lotion, swimming in the pool,

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Speaker 3: like getting the ocean, but also like staying under the

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Speaker 3: umbrella because you know, my skin can be up at

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Speaker 3: fair right I side. I was definitely more this year,

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Speaker 3: being like, Okay, we're getting older, I need to be

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Speaker 3: more wearing my infamous gaplin and shirt that I bought

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Speaker 3: for the Roney premiere. When I'm out of the water.

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Speaker 2: Your emergency premiere shirt.

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Speaker 3: That's becoming more of it, you know, to cover.

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Speaker 2: My cover up. I feel like now at my age,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting a little bit more like you know what,

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Speaker 2: Like the worst is over. Let's like fuck the sunscreen.

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Speaker 2: It's time to be like tan. Mom.

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Speaker 3: Wait, so were you doing like no sunscreen on like

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Speaker 3: a cypress hundred degree beach.

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Speaker 2: I was like only applying once and then like not

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Speaker 2: even doing my full face, just doing like nose and

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Speaker 2: like crows feet.

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Speaker 3: Wow, nose, then crows feet but not cheek.

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Speaker 2: Well and then and then like frown lines. But I

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Speaker 2: was being very like an anti wrinkle but like not not.

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Speaker 3: That it actually it sounds so like we're paying. You're

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Speaker 3: like line here, like line here.

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Speaker 2: Like frownline's crows feet eleven's nose done, but then like

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Speaker 2: not doing cheeks, so your forehead of your cheeks, like

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Speaker 2: do get that beautiful tan glow.

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Speaker 3: I guess you have a beard also, so do beards

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Speaker 3: like cover the sun and not to cry, like if

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Speaker 3: you have facial hair, like does it cover.

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Speaker 2: You know what? Like thank you for asking that question

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Speaker 2: about it? Enough hair will cover skin? When it is

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Speaker 2: when you when you're out under the harsh slight of

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Speaker 2: the sun. Yeah, no, so it will cover the parts

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Speaker 3: But anyway, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It's been weeks, three weeks and three weeks since we've spoken,

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Speaker 2: and we're both so different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I actually tried to reach you.

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Speaker 2: I was in a lot of different time zones, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: Balsano and is in northern Italy, the sort of German

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Speaker 2: speaking part, I was speaking German, and then I was

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Speaker 2: in Turkish Cypress, and then I was in Greek Cypress,

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Speaker 2: and because of all the languages, I just didn't want

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Speaker 2: to be triggered, like talking to someone who only speaks English.

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Speaker 2: It was going to like actually make me really nervous, right.

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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, you're like this nervous

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Speaker 3: mob at the airport because like you've heard my American.

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Speaker 2: trying to be so chic and Cypress, which did also

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Speaker 3: Anyway, It's so not that I, you know, I want

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Speaker 3: you to live in Cypress forever if you want to.

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Speaker 3: But it's cool to see you back on US soil.

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Speaker 2: You know what, coming back. I was so embarrassed for

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Speaker 2: our country. Like when you go through customs at JFK,

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Speaker 2: it's like the drop ceilings, the fluorescent lighting. There's like

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Speaker 2: You're there with like eighteen hundred people, and this is

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Speaker 2: the welcome we give foreigners at our like Premier airport,

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Speaker 2: like the doorway to America. Like it's mortifying. And then

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in like a low budget elementary school.

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Speaker 2: I just think, I mean, JFK is a shit show,

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Speaker 2: and like now the LaGuardia got a facelift, Like I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: JFK is the runt of the pack and like she

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Speaker 2: needs to step her pussy up, and then that's like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not slaying the game anyway. Isn't it so crazy?

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Speaker 3: We have all these shows coming up, Stevens.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, So if you like us, you

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Speaker 2: should see us live in person, bitch on the West

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Speaker 2: Coast and the East Coast. Tellon those cities.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Portland first, then Seattle, then Send Friends Cisco in

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Speaker 3: honor of Tony Bennett's life, then Living, Laughing, Loving Chime

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Speaker 3: Beathing Los Angeles. Then we're back in NYC.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, honestly which city I'm most excited for.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever been to Portland or Seattle? Because I haven't.

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Speaker 2: I've never been to Portland, which is like insane because

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Speaker 2: it's just like the biggest like joke about like white

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Speaker 2: You know. My ex was from Bellingham, So I did

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Speaker 2: go out in Seattle and it was like giving DC

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Speaker 2: male lesbian, so like, I mean, I'm so excited to

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Speaker 2: go back. And you know, I love Frasier, right, we love.

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Speaker 3: Hard the nineties, and I'm definitely like gonna go off

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Speaker 3: the plane and like expect to see Eddie Vedder and.

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Speaker 2: Just like punk and grune and just like coffee and

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Speaker 2: like chucker skirts and skateboards and everyone's so Daria.

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna instantly be like jamming.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to disabuse you with the

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Speaker 2: definitely will not because it's a fucking Amazon.

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Speaker 3: But also I'm like excited to go to Amazon h

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Speaker 3: Q and like intern for a day.

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Speaker 2: No, that's honestly, I am excited to like our Amazon

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Speaker 2: like birthright, and we're just being like, wait, I order

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Speaker 2: from here all the time. I'm s us with your website.

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Speaker 3: I want to go see the home of my favorite website.

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Speaker 2: So come see us nine seven and nine to nine

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Speaker 2: and then nine to eleven. How are you celebrating.

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Speaker 3: See Guess in San Francisco with Brontes Parnell literally talk about.

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Speaker 2: Rocker anyway, buy tickets now, Like, don't be insane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, don't be insane.

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Speaker 2: We need to get to the book.

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Speaker 3: You guys, we read a book.

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Speaker 2: I read a book on the hot, hot beaches of Cypress,

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Speaker 2: surrounded by pasty British holidaymakers.

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Speaker 3: Steven, would you tell us how we picked this book?

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Speaker 3: Because people are always asking us how did you guys

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Speaker 3: pick the books?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And a lot of the time it's always like, well,

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Speaker 2: this is the book you know that was lying around,

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Speaker 2: he was just like, what is this like poppycock like

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Speaker 1: Slevely book Club, book Club.

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Speaker 3: Okay, things I learned in this book British stuff, cultured stuff.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, everyone's on pins and fucking needles. Still,

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00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: to me, it's like, as you said, you made it

438
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 2: such a part of your identity. It's insane to me

439
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: that you are someone who has seen Star Wars.

440
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 3: Now it's like broken almost.

441
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like, who are you? Yeah?

442
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 3: Am I still me?

443
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

444
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 3: But I still haven't read or watched Harry Potter.

445
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 2: Well, because she is a turf and TERFs.

446
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 3: Are not welcome.

447
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, I mean that would be even funnier for

448
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: you at thirty seven to start.

449
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 3: With thirty six.

450
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 2: Well, by the time you got around it might be

451
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: thirty seven.

452
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 3: It might be thirty seven.

453
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: Just crack open Sorcerers Stone.

454
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 3: Speaking of urfs, Eleginnis was like so sketched that Mercutio

455
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 3: in Rome and Juliette on First Watch was played by

456
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 3: like a gay guy and kind of drag queen. And

457
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: then on second watch he was kind of like it

458
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 3: was actually quite interesting.

459
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: No, and I love that he went and saw that twice.

460
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: He was like, it was actually so good in such

461
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: a dope ass rendition of Shakespeare, Like I'm going back

462
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 2: to the theater see Buzzlermans again, you know. And he

463
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: was like, I thought he'd be a bit too camp,

464
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: but it turns out it was a brilliant take on Macuccio.

465
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, And at first he really was just so like, oh,

466
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: I see what you're doing, Bars, You're trying to make

467
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: Shakespeare modern. And then he references like whatever, some production

468
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: of like Hamlet in like nineteen eighty five tried to

469
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 3: make it modern and it didn't go well. And then

470
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 3: he was like, well, actually Miriam Maudolus was amazing in it,

471
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: and actually Mercutio's performance was quite interesting.

472
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: You know. I remember when I was going to play

473
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: at camp once as a child. We did a version

474
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: of the Labyrinth and I played like the girl who's

475
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: like the main character obviously, and it was like around

476
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: the time that Baz Rman's Shakespeare came out. I remember,

477
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: like our drama teacher was I mean, like you know,

478
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: people like say that that's not faithful to Shakespeare, like

479
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 2: that's not good. But let me tell you something about Shakespeare.

480
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: Shakespeare's work was contemporary. That means that it's always relevant

481
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: society and keep it performed in any context and any

482
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: time period because it still makes sense because the characters

483
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: are contemporary, the stories are contemporary. And that really stuck

484
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: with me. I said, wow, that's very true.

485
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 3: You know, as a cad I just did it when

486
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 3: they gave you Shakespeare's I just didn't get it. I

487
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: didn't get the language. And then there was like the

488
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 3: Year of the Teen rom Com that was Shakespeare because

489
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 3: clueless things I hate about you and she's all that

490
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 3: are all Shakespeare or maybe clueless is prident prejudice.

491
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: And there was oh remember oh oh with adaptation. Loved

492
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 2: that PLM.

493
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 3: I took a like BBNN Shakespeare camp, which like you weren't,

494
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 3: and it was between seventh and eighth with.

495
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 2: Who is You do a play?

496
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: We did Midsummer Night's Dream and I played the lion.

497
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 3: I had one line rare and it literally was roar.

498
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: And I remember like someone in our class like telling me,

499
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: this is very Ali Guinness where people told him he

500
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: was a bad actor. And I remember like I did

501
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: my roar line and someone was like, wow, literally like

502
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 3: act much.

503
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: Wait wait somebody dragged your roar.

504
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody dragged my lion roll. And I was just

505
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: so like, this sucks. It's summer. I don't understand anything

506
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: in this play, not a lo line.

507
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: I'm doing rare yeah, And so that really soured joined

508
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: Shakespeare even more so. Then when did you come around

509
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: to the to the bar or did you never?

510
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 3: I think more. And then also I think my first

511
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: watch of Romeo and Juliet, I wasn't totally there, but

512
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: I watched Roman Juliet kind of like in the past year,

513
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 3: and I was like, this movie is amazing and I

514
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 3: did get it. And I think just knowing that, like

515
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 3: Shakespeare is always modern and that it has been adapted

516
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: into schoos all that, I wouldn't say I'm a shakespeare head, right.

517
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: I love the movie Shakespeare in Love.

518
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say that seems more your speed.

519
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: That movie is lit.

520
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: We haven't seen you seen the movie? Anonymous exclamation point. No, okay,

521
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: it's so good. It's about the Oxfordian like theory of authorship.

522
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: Because there's this theory that Shakespeare didn't writ the plays,

523
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: that it was actually like the Earl of Oxford, and

524
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: that Shakespeare was actually like the town drunk that just

525
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 2: used him to like make these plays, because the plays

526
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 2: were actually kind of like revolutionary and they were like

527
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: you know, designed to sort of incite the populace, like

528
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: against the monarchy.

529
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, comment, everyone should comment if they think Shakespeare.

530
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: Was actually you're shakespeare authorship theories in the comments anyway.

531
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: What's your favorite Shakespeare play?

532
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: Oh, my god, don't make me choose. Really, you know,

533
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: I love them on I read them so many times

534
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: and they're so fascinating. Honestly, No, I have a simile

535
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: relationship where I'm just kind of like, I'm not really

536
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: reading the whole thing. Macbeth was a really I felt

537
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: like I was reading Macbeth for like four years in

538
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 2: high school. Yeah, there was a lot of mcbethan. I mean,

539
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: I like the idea of those plays, you know. I

540
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: like the power struggles and the death, the tragedy, the excitement.

541
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: I think that's fun. I really liked the movie The

542
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: King with Timothy Chalame on Netflix about Henry the Fifth.

543
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 2: But I don't think I.

544
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: Haven't caught it.

545
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if that was even such an

546
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: adaptation of the Shakespeare and it was just like a movie. Ultimately,

547
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: I don't know sure a Insermon's Dream because there's like

548
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: the gay one in it, like Paan is in Red Pan.

549
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: So I guess me has some Shakespeare wrechar do. But

550
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: you know, and Alec talks about his early career how

551
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: you know, he did some place and someone was like,

552
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: you're not an actor, and it pushed him.

553
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: It lit a fire. One thing I'm saying about this

554
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: book is that because he is one hundred and his

555
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: career spans from like literally the sinking of the Titanic

556
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: until the Tony Blair Prime Ministership, you're just like he's

557
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: always just been like, well, in nineteen seventy three, I

558
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: ran into Marlon Dietrich, but in nineteen forty two, and

559
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 2: you're always just like, wait, how are you this old? No,

560
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: I know, he'll just rattle off anecdotes from literally every

561
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: single period in history. It's almost like Forrest Gump in

562
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: this way.

563
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little time traveler. And then when he's

564
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: just being like me and like kul La, we're having

565
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: a lunch. I spilled a bottle of red wine because

566
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: Americans were talking about that woman Lewinsky, and it's like,

567
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: how are you here?

568
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: Right? How are you here? But you were also like

569
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: doing a production of King Lear at the Old VIC,

570
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 2: like during the London bombings, and you also like, oh,

571
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: we have to run under the tunnels because the Germans

572
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: are bombing. But then you were also like doing a

573
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: production of Othello, just like in the Roaring twenties. And

574
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: then he's just like, I remember when it was at

575
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 2: JFK staff at like the bombing of Nagasaki, like every

576
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: historical moment. He was just like I was doing a

577
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: play on vacation with Maroula, watching my dog when.

578
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: He gets mad at people. How he was like people

579
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: always are like, oh, where were you? And JFK was

580
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: assassinated and he's like, how about you, ad where were

581
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: you doing Pearl Harbor?

582
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: Where were you during the star of World War One?

583
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: How about that? I was like, because not everyone is

584
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: a hundred babe.

585
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: Two hundred years old. I want to talk about Gotta Garbo.

586
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: But wait, let's start with the Marlene Dietrich.

587
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: The Marliny Dietrich line. MARLINI Dietrick, who's my mom's like idol?

588
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: And I will shoe.

589
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: Your id oh a little bit.

590
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 3: I mean she is kind of like the original like

591
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: lesbian kind of she's so.

592
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: She is, she's like dense yeah, and suits. Oh, she

593
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: invented like men's wear as women's wear. Okay, after all, sophisticated,

594
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: worldly wise housepro like, Marlene Dietrich could convince herself that

595
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: each New Year's Eve she had an assignment in the

596
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: Californian desert with a well set of gentlemen from out

597
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: of space, or so she showed me. So like you're

598
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: at some party like in the desert. She could tell

599
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: you the best way to roast a chicken, how to

600
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: remove a coffee stand, and above all, the right pill

601
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: to take to jerk you awake in the morning ready

602
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: for a day's filming. So already her just being like, yeah,

603
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: she's on pills. And she she sent me a vast

604
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: pink pill after I had listened to her for hours

605
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 2: late into the night, which activated me for two solid

606
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: days and robbed me of all sleep for the remainder

607
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: of the week.

608
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: Marlene Dietrich gave Alecman a speed literally speed well they

609
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: were all on speed then Darling.

610
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: And then he goes, I liked her in spite of

611
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: her vanity and her dismissal of Garboat and quotes, my dear,

612
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: she has bad skin.

613
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: That's it.

614
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: That's it, that's the end of that. Just teachers, just

615
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: going no, I don't like go to Garner. She has

616
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: bad skin.

617
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: My dear, she has bad skin. And then there was

618
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: also this time where he was staying at a hotel

619
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: with Jack Nicholson and he was so annoyed by the

620
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: paparazzi and he was like, I need to do the

621
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: Dietrich way, where once she was at a hotel with

622
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: Liz Taylor and Richard Burton. Yes, and then she goes

623
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: to listen, Richard, you shouldn't stay at a hotel at

624
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: the same time as.

625
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: Me if you don't want all this paparazzi dode No.

626
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: This book has so many like of that kind of

627
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: hearsay where he's like he's running into Albert Finney in

628
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: the waiting room and they're sharing a ridiculous anecdote about

629
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: like some other dead actor. But part of it is

630
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: like this insane recall that he has where he's just

631
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: so incredibly, Like his depth of knowledge of the classics

632
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: is so insane. He's just constantly like I was at

633
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 2: a church and reminded me of a line and as

634
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: Shakespeare play that reminded me of a flower that only

635
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: grows in France. That reminded me of a hilarious quote

636
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: that Greta Garbo said to Hitler while we were like

637
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: all vacationing like by accident together.

638
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: You do wonder how we lost a sense of the classics.

639
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 2: I mean, I do think it's terribly British of him,

640
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: and he is just so British, and like he loves like,

641
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: you know, gardens and like.

642
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: Right because they're like this book, by the way, it's

643
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: not all Garbo, this Albert Finney. Like half of it

644
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: is like I walked into a beautiful garden and I

645
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: saw a river and it reminded me of when me

646
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: and Marula caught a train to Dublin and it was rainy.

647
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 2: And then like every essay kind of ends just like

648
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: in his garden with Maroula, like watching their cat like

649
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: get a bird, but then like the cat has to

650
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: be put down because it like has pancreatic cancer or whatever.

651
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: The cat dying part was so beautiful where he has

652
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: this cat and she's lost and she comes back and

653
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: he goes. She comes back and she was exstatic and

654
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: dizzy with purse.

655
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: Oh.

656
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: And then she ran upstairs to where their son was

657
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: sleeping and she got into bed with him, and she

658
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: was so excited. And then she came down and she

659
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: had her saucer of milk.

660
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: Oh.

661
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: Wait, the part about the dog that they find that

662
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: they nurse back to health with raw eggs and brandy brandy.

663
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: I was like what he was like, no food, just

664
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: raw egg and brandy and cream.

665
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: And the vet it's like the middle of the war

666
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: or whatever. The vet was like, no, this dog will

667
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: never last, like you'll have to put it down and

668
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: be responsible. But Marula said, no, we will stick to

669
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: the raw egg and brandy diet. And then the dog

670
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: lived another fourteen years. Maroula knows, okay, now whenever we're sick,

671
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: we have to just do raw eug and brandy.

672
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: Nothing brandy cream. So Marula was actually a contemporary of Picasso,

673
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: if I am correct. Yes, she was quite the artist

674
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: under her own.

675
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: And her brother was a painter as well. And there's

676
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: a point where they watched some documentary on the box,

677
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: as he calls it, and they were like and like,

678
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: they mentioned her brother's painting. The night lit a fire

679
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: in the marie and the next day she was there

680
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: painting way at her easel.

681
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: His vibe reminded me not to do this again. But

682
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: you know, my father get ediple where it's like, are

683
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: you so gay? And You're like, no, you're just like

684
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: a snobby British right straight person.

685
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: Yes, your father I don't believe was British.

686
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: No, But I'm saying, like, it's actually possible to be heterosexual. Yes, yes, yes,

687
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: I love dickens and art and gardens and tea.

688
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: Well, of course, because the culture hadterosexual now is the

689
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: memory is completely faded from the popular imagination right now,

690
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: you know, to be culture and homosexual now a heterosexual now,

691
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: of course, means that you, I don't know, you don't

692
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: skip leg day, dear God.

693
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: This one time when he got like annoid and Marolla

694
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: I felt was like so us where they were watching

695
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: Wimbledon and she like insulted some tennis player.

696
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: Oh, and he was like, and I thought we might

697
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: be headed for divorce. But then she said, oh no,

698
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: I rather like him. And then oh, we can trot

699
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: on with another thirty as And I correct.

700
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: That they were sleeping in separate bedrooms during this book,

701
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: or is he referring to his office.

702
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: I do remember what you're talking about. I forget what

703
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: page it's on, but I do remember him decently, and

704
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: so then I like DeCamp to this wing of the house.

705
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: But I also think that maybe they had to do

706
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: with like an injury, because like there's a lot of

707
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 2: him getting like eye surgery trees.

708
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: Yes, he's like I had a cataract surgery, and then

709
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: Marula had a cataract surgery, and then there's like a

710
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: leg and there's a call to his office. But it

711
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: is quite romantic. Marula is always putting like fresh flowers

712
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: on his desk.

713
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful.

714
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: Okay, the Prince Charles, well, now the King. Sorry, so

715
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: he's at a dinner party with the King.

716
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: And that's actually no, that's Prince Edward, the abdicated one

717
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: who abdicated to Mary Wallace Simpson. That's the Duke of Windsor.

718
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, that makes so much more sense than it's

719
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: Prince Edward. Sorry, I'm not.

720
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: As because that's very like I've abdicated behavior like, that's

721
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: so Princess Margaret. So like, when you're not in line

722
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: to the throne, you can act a fool, but when

723
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: you're the air, you have to like be proper.

724
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, that's so rude. What we're talking

725
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: about is basically that Prince Edward. He comes up to

726
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 3: him and he's like, I want a whiskey in a

727
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: small glass, and everything hears a big glass.

728
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: And he says this to Alex, who's not even like

729
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: one of the servants at this party. He's just there

730
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: and he sees the duke wave away a servant with

731
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: a tray, and he's like, oh, would you like something,

732
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: And he's like, I want whiskey in a small glass.

733
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: So Alex starts like searching for small glasses.

734
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: And frankly, there are no small glasses at this like

735
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 2: insane mansion that they're at.

736
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 3: Everything is like a heavy tumbler.

737
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: Wait, plenty of great, chunky crystal tumblers, but nothing remotely small.

738
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 2: Another flunky, to whom I did my best to explain

739
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: the problem, was decidedly negative. So we'll have to settle

740
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: for what they've got. I thought, I pour the whiskey

741
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: and returned with it to his Royal Highness, who was

742
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: clearly anxious to get on with his tail about some maharajah.

743
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: Then his eye fell on the glass. He went scarlet

744
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: and exploded in what I've heard subsequently referred to as

745
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: the wind a rage. I said, a small glass, he

746
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: screamed at me, A small glass, A small glass, A

747
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: small glass, you fool, I told you, a small glass,

748
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 2: so insane.

749
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: Not the winds a rage, literally, the winds are rage.

750
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: And then he like apologizes later when he's leaving.

751
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: Okay, he's leaving, he's like, I'm sorry about my tantrum.

752
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: Did you like his Diana ty read it? Okay, I'm

753
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: sorry this part. A few years ago, at a banquet

754
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 2: for a film folk at cann I was placed gloriously

755
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: beside her Royal Highness, Diana, Princess of Wales. Our starter

756
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: to the meal was something entirely covered with kiwi fruit,

757
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: the ubiquitous kiwi. I said, wonder wondering if I had

758
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: done the wrong thing, and speaking first, she turned to

759
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: me very seriously, and lowering her beautiful head, muttered, don't

760
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: touch it. It's poison. Here we go again. I thought, oh,

761
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: because there had been some weird thing earlier, but I

762
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: was happy to obey her conversation wasn't exactly wildly in

763
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: as in Oscar wild.

764
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: We need to start using that. I like, if someone's boring,

765
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: we like cars. Wasn't exactly wild Ian.

766
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: After some desperate brief efforts, we were mercifully distracted by

767
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: four or five speeches. And I feel like that is

768
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: kind of the vibe you get from every other book

769
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: we've read that's like been near Diana, where they're like

770
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: not coming out and insulting her, but they're just kind

771
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: of implying that she is a bit dim.

772
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, like dim alta is your word of the summer.

773
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: It's like so seventies this week, even like he was

774
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: a bit dim. But I think it goes it's not

775
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: just she's kind of a little bit also like boring

776
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: hot girl vibe, and she's nervous and she's bored, and

777
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: she's just like girl that's always in a fight with

778
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: her boyfriend.

779
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean literally.

780
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 3: At a dinner and you're kind of like, okay, can

781
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: we stop for a second.

782
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, she wasn't so like reparte because that part

783
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: of the thing was like she was a common her

784
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: so she wasn't like raised to be as a repartee. Maybe,

785
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: although I feel like she is Kate Middleton and she

786
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: wasn't like she was raised poor.

787
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 3: I thought like they did choose her because she was

788
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 3: like a little more of society and like they felt

789
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: like Camilla was like kind of too much of a

790
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: like whrror.

791
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: I mean, Camilla is a whore and that's what we

792
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: fucking love her.

793
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: We stab her and where she's Okay.

794
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: It does say she grew up in park house situated

795
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: on the sandronim Estate. Okay, so she grew up in

796
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: like a named home.

797
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I think the whole thing they were like

798
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: Camilla is a whore and like is too old and

799
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: is a slud and like Diana did like grow up

800
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: like classy.

801
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 2: And yet you know she conversation wasn't exactly wild.

802
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 3: But then he gets very I mean as we all did.

803
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: I mean not really hing we're a little too young.

804
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: But he's like very sad when she dies, and he

805
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: just like is so emotional. It's like talks about the

806
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: malaise of the country. But then he is the best

807
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: line ever when he's talking about the memorial and he's

808
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 3: like Elton John's candle. The wind did gut me, but

809
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: it was a verse too long. Yeah, it was a

810
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: verse too long.

811
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the tea. The tea has been stillith

812
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: all over Westminster. Honey. That was a very poignant part

813
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: because he was like, he has a really great way

814
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: of sort of diagnosing like the entire feeling of like

815
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: society at once like through the lens of his own

816
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: little experience. And partly he's lucky because he is like

817
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: rich and famous in Britain and he is always like

818
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: at dinner at ten Downing Street. He was like, I

819
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: fear that we're entering this like era of like commoditization

820
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: of celebrity and of like American culture basically like controlling Britain.

821
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: And I think, like that's basically what's happening now with

822
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: like post Diana, and it's like, oh, yeah, that's that's

823
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 2: very much true.

824
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: And of course I think he then saw how Diana

825
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: was becoming Star Wars. Yeah, like it was becoming so

826
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: order your Diana plate for twenty dollars a month for seven.

827
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: Installments, and like celebrity and fame itself becomes more interesting

828
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: to people than anything that was associated with the person

829
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: who ever got famous.

830
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: Where were you when she?

831
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: I was in the backseat of a Volvo, as many

832
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: of us were in the nineties.

833
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: I'm probably saying, Yeah.

834
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 2: We were driving back from Vermont from some god awful

835
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: ski weekend. I had crammed into the boots in the

836
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: Stirman drug my goodness, and I remember my mother, you know,

837
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 2: putting on NPR. She's wont to do as she's want

838
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: to do and just shaking her head. I think she

839
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: says something like this is going to change the world.

840
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: Things will never be the same, you know. I was

841
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: in the backstor like fighting for my brother or something.

842
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't really care, but I could

843
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: see she was affected her pain, yes, and you know,

844
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: and they were putting very somber ternes on the radio, yes,

845
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: as they want to do over the MPR. Where were

846
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 2: you and JFK was assassinated?

847
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was getting off my shift at Chili's, the

848
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: first Chili's, the.

849
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: Very first Chilies. I was at Applebee's when they dropped

850
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 2: the bomb on NK.

851
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: And I was drafting plans for the first All of

852
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: god In when World War One started.

853
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I do kind of like his politics throughout how

854
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: he's always just like throwing in that. He's like when

855
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: all the veterans turn their back on like the Japanese

856
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: emperor when he visits in like the nineties, and he's

857
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: just like, Okay, World War two is fifty years ago,

858
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: get over it. We don't need to still be like

859
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: being dramatic about like the Japanese leadership, like doing a

860
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: state visit, like wrap it up.

861
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: He also was so funny and being so libs, which

862
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: I thought was a more of a modern thing. He's

863
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: always being so damn libs.

864
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: Wow, that's just the name of a party in Britain.

865
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought he was being so lib down. I'm

866
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: learning so much, and this is why it's important to read.

867
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: Yes, please read British authors to learn about their culture.

868
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: Okay, this was my other like big learn. He keeps

869
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: on talking about David Copperfield, and I was like, are

870
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: you really talking about the Mantricious turns out it's a

871
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: Charles Dickens book. I was like, that's so weird that

872
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 3: Ali Gin is as obsessed with David Copperfield.

873
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: The way that in this one book you did like

874
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: four years of high school. No, literally, y'all don't go

875
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: back to high school. Just read this one sort of

876
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 2: romp of a say.

877
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: Collection one romp of diaries, and it is true. It

878
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: feels very Matt Damon where I'm just so like, Yeah,

879
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 3: you don't need to go to Harvard. Read one all

880
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: book and actively read. If you don't understand something, look

881
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: it up.

882
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: Yes, active reading Wikipedia on one screen Kendle and the other.

883
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, right before we need to get into segments.

884
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 3: But I guess here we go. Star Wars.

885
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what did you think?

886
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: I thought it was beautiful.

887
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

888
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was a beautiful visually. That was

889
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: most I want to see it on the big screen.

890
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: I was amazed at the sets. I was amazed at

891
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 3: the production design, costume design.

892
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: And you know what's cool is I think, like most

893
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: of the films you see are not built like that anymore,

894
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: and so it was probably super exciting for you because like,

895
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: one of the greatest thing about Star Wars I think

896
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: it looks so much better than the special effects you

897
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: see nowadays. Those are all miniatures. Every ship they built

898
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: that in miniature like, so it's something real they're actually filming,

899
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: and I think it makes such a big.

900
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: Difference well, and what was upsetting. What I learned from

901
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 3: my girlfriend who has worked on a lot of Star

902
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: Wars license products and books, is in the new edition

903
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: they like cgi'ed in some like dinosaurs and stuff like that.

904
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah they did, and it takes you out.

905
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: You're like, this is so beautiful that it's like Chewbucca's

906
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: miniature and like R two D two and like these

907
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: crazy landscapes and these like seventies recreations of like ships

908
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 3: of like all the modern space stations. And then it's

909
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: the CGID dinosaur. I'm like, I don't need to beat

910
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: Universal Studios right now.

911
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: And it's so obvious the CGI like it's just so

912
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 2: out of place, and the aesthetics of all the ships

913
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: it's so cool in seventies with like the big lights

914
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: and the big buttons. I love, like the bar I

915
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: mean most icly cantina. I can't wow. I mean look

916
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: at the way. I'm so like, what my heart is

917
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: so full that you are excited by the aesthetics of

918
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: that because like it's so informative, and I'm glad you

919
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: think it's cool.

920
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: Well, and also I see why you, I mean, next up,

921
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: because I remember in middle school. You like getting to

922
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: stay up late and go at midnight or something to

923
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 3: see the Natalie Portman Yeah release, and you're such a Portman.

924
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: Head and you were just like wow, you're such a loser.

925
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: But I was like, wait, CHEWBOSX is hilarious.

926
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: No, cheabox is hilarious. I mean also, I will say,

927
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: I mean those firstones are really funny, like the later

928
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: ones are not. Don't have that humor like it's almost

929
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: a comedy. It's like it.

930
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: Literally is a comedy. And it's still like ourgg too

931
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: being so beep beep and they're like, shut up you.

932
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: And like Harrison Ford is so funny and charismatic, and

933
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: I felt.

934
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: Like Harrison Ford like invented being kind of the action

935
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: star that says one kind of funny, sassy thing in

936
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 3: like a John Cina the wrothway.

937
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 2: I mean, Harrison Ford absolutely opened the door for John Cena.

938
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: There's no question that John Cena stands on Harrison ford shoulders.

939
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: And then of course Alec Guinness in his robe he

940
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: does lend a gravity to it.

941
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: Yes he does, because I think that's what makes it

942
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: not the soul like sci fi is like you do

943
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: have this very wise man.

944
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: You need one British accent in there stage actor. Yeah.

945
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: And then also I was being like such an idiot

946
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: with Darth Vader. I was like, wait, I know that voice.

947
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh right, it's James Jones, literally the most

948
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: famous voice in the world.

949
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: God, You've learned so much in the It's soonerful to

950
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: see a young mine get molded a middle aged mine

951
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: get molded.

952
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 3: Club positively fine segment. How does she live?

953
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: What does she wear?

954
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,959
Speaker 3: What does she eat? Okay, what does she eat?

955
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: You know? He says at one point that it's like

956
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: me and Marula like to gobble up our food fast.

957
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 3: They eat quite quickly, so this is so funny. He's like, oh,

958
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: Marula is the cook, but he, like most old white people,

959
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 3: gets into like Asian cooking late in life. Yes, and

960
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 3: he buys this like walk cookbook and it is cute.

961
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: He is being so like Maroula, you have the night off,

962
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna and he makes like a really spicy

963
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: like celery soup or something like that, and it's like

964
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: way too hot.

965
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: And like they're definitely also cooking Indian meals and home

966
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: that's very British. They're also very like coffee at eleven pm,

967
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: like you have coffee before bed, because he's always also

968
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 2: like seeing a show and like maybe sometimes having dinner

969
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: after the show at like midnight, and then calling on

970
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: a good friend in Paris and so like weirdly going

971
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: to bed at three am and being such a partier,

972
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: but then also going to bed at eight pm in

973
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: the country after like a pheasant stew at five right.

974
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: And I feel like when he is theater alone, he'll

975
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 3: be like just having a hotel and Marilla won't be there,

976
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 3: and he's like, well, I went to my hotel room

977
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: and I had a sandwich and a beer. Yeah, and

978
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: then I finished the end of a good program on television.

979
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: And then I devoured the Bible or like some book

980
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: that happened to be there. I love this scene when

981
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: he's like at some production and everyone has like hay

982
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: fever and everyone's sneezing, and he just leaves at intermission

983
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: because he's like, I don't want to be on on

984
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 2: these sneezing bitches.

985
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: He's like this is too loud, it's just gross. Wait

986
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 3: what was the food part? When he's like I think

987
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: also he's like older and he's like my appetitiz in

988
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 3: so much and he's just being like, sometimes I just

989
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: have a horribleled egg.

990
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's also like old people like don't need

991
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: to eat as much anymore. Like they're just eating like

992
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: a salad and an egg.

993
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: They're picking at it.

994
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

995
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 3: I feel like he drinks from this British way where

996
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: he's like never really like getting drunk, but like but.

997
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: He is having martinis. He's always like at someone's house

998
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: while they're making martinis and he drinks the whiskey out

999
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: of massive chalice that the Duke of Windsor doesn't want

1000
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: after he says no, so like he's drinking. I think

1001
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: he's just actually quite good at like moderation. Yes, and

1002
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: for someone who is able to memorize like eighty thousand

1003
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: lines of Shakespeare, I think that makes sense, you.

1004
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 3: Know, definitely definitely what does he wear. I've like imagine

1005
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 3: him in just like a tweet suit every.

1006
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 2: Day, but I don't think he is suit every day.

1007
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: That's so crazy.

1008
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: Well not every day, but he talks about going to

1009
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: that place for lunch and how it's tie required, and

1010
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: he was being like finally.

1011
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean he's like traditional. I mean he's like, uh,

1012
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: at one point, it's it's awful that hats on a

1013
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: required many more and you know like when everyone wore

1014
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: a hat, those are the good days. Wait did you

1015
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: also catch that part where he's like a certain time

1016
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: in like the twenties in Piccadilly Square, if you were

1017
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: smoking a cigar and you ran into a woman that

1018
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: you know you had to put out the cigar.

1019
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 3: Wait. Yes, that was so insane. So he was like,

1020
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: oh there was this one ball where like men could

1021
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: finally smoke in peace and woman wouldn't tell them to

1022
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: put it out?

1023
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: Was it because women were like, don't smoke? It was

1024
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: just like it was rude to smoke in front of

1025
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: a woman.

1026
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: I think it's cigars because like women are so puff puff.

1027
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 2: Right they were, but like cigars was like just too crass.

1028
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: Two things.

1029
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so cross to smoke a cigar in front

1030
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: of a woman. Absolutely not. How does she live? Yeah,

1031
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 3: country home. I imagine it is kind of like dusty

1032
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: and dark and minimal but different, like a lot of

1033
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: little uncomfortable chairs and little uncomfortable couches.

1034
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that there's a lot of

1035
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: velvet couches and like its Florida ceiling frames of like

1036
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: old little paintings that Maroula has done that as done that, like, yes,

1037
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 2: Lady Diana Cooper gave to him after a terrible luncheon

1038
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: in Normandy. But I got a darling little painting out

1039
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 2: of it, and it sits in my grand side study,

1040
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: the one that Maroula only goes into when she's feeling new.

1041
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: Yes, and then I feel like he's like and then

1042
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: in our south dining room, it was too hot in

1043
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: the garden, so I moved our table and I'm putting

1044
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 3: like there's like a lot of different random little linens

1045
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 3: they're putting on table.

1046
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. They're always like dressing a table for

1047
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: breakfast and then for tea and then for lunch. And

1048
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: it's just the constant dressing and undressing of tables. I

1049
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: mean it's wood. Everything's wood. And like they have like

1050
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 2: such an Auga stove, but like the British Auga, like

1051
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: it's old, unless you think that they did. She was

1052
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four Reno and like they did get

1053
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: a Viking stove.

1054
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 3: Yes, I think there was an early nineties or late

1055
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 3: eighties Reno.

1056
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, late eighties Viking because they're always having like

1057
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: their kids and the grandkids, the great and kids over

1058
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: and I think that like the kids are like, Dad,

1059
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: you have to go to Viking. Yes, we're doing like

1060
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 2: a big, big roast. Okay, who are you in the book?

1061
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: I think you're Alec.

1062
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: I just like I always had this fear of not

1063
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: memorizing all our lines.

1064
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: Same he has such.

1065
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: Recall, though, I mean, his knowledge is so deep. I

1066
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: just I read this book and I was so taken

1067
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: with the right I was so inspired by it. But

1068
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: I felt like his knowledge base was just so intimidating.

1069
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't remember every painting, every song,

1070
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: every book ever created.

1071
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 3: But I think he had other diaries. I feel like

1072
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 3: he's just kept a diary his whole life, and these

1073
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 3: are his later diaries, and he maybe was cross referencing okay,

1074
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 3: some old stuff.

1075
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.

1076
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: Guess I thought you were Alec in a way when

1077
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: you are just being so like, uh, like, Lady Diana

1078
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 3: Cooper is such a queen and I was like sat

1079
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: next to like this boring person at dinner.

1080
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of has this like gay guy like

1081
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: crushed on Lady Cooper or just being like she's so

1082
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 2: fab and like everyone else is boring.

1083
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: But then I guess he wasn't you When Greta Garbo's like,

1084
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 3: what do you think of eighteenth century French furniture, and

1085
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 3: he's like, I couldn't recall a thing that was French.

1086
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 3: That was the straightest thing he said. He was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I have no idea what French furniture.

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Speaker 2: Is, but I kind of think he meant it in

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00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: like a British way, just being like, oh, the French, Yeah,

1090
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: they're good for two things, wine and more wine. They're

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00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: tasting Furniture's dast today? Are you the friend who, when

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00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: he's in his cups goes out the porthole of an

1093
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: ocean liner and drowns?

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00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 3: He was in his cups and I think he just

1095
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: thought he would come to deck and uh, yeah he drowned.

1096
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: What a fine actor he was. Okay, I'm him? Or

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00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: I also thought I was the loud American talking about Monoca.

1098
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, wait, betch did you hear the latest fucking tea

1099
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: landa fucking tramp like while you're on vacation in the

1100
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: South of France And he's just like, I cannot with

1101
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 2: these American voices.

1102
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 3: And there's like a British person behind me, give me

1103
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: this most scourly look. Yep, there you go. Well, what

1104
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 3: a wonderful book. I want to thank you Stephen, and

1105
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: thank the madicant mall for recommend you know, it was

1106
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 3: such a delight.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I think I'm giving this book a rare five

1108
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: tiny whiskey glasses out of five. It was lovely and brisk.

1109
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean, perhaps I could have used even more. You know.

1110
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: I guess like I don't know the childhood ever, but

1111
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: actually whatever, No, I don't need the childhood.

1112
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: Like the thing is not It's like he has three

1113
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: other memoirs. That's why it's not childhood, which is what

1114
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: I kind of loved about it.

1115
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: It's so confident. I just was so taking with the

1116
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: way that he it's not trying hard at all. It's

1117
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: like incredibly pretentious.

1118
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: It's naturally pretentious.

1119
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: Yes, he's not actually trying to make some deep point ever,

1120
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: and yet it feels very profound throughout the.

1121
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: End he does make a point about acting. And no,

1122
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 3: and I give it five jipezs Aging dogs on Brandy

1123
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 3: Died out of five because I'm I'm kind of no notes.

1124
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 3: I'm like laughing out loud and almost in the way,

1125
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: and people like what you're kind of like, you don't understand.

1126
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And it's such a joy to see someone

1127
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: so authentically themselves. And I think it is something that

1128
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: comes with age. And we read so many memoirs lately

1129
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: that you know, people write because they just recently got

1130
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: famous and they come out and like, you know, this

1131
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: is more than classic. You're looking back on your life.

1132
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: And I mean it's about death in many ways. He

1133
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 2: has lots of friends who die in it, and he's

1134
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: just been very contemplative.

1135
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 3: It's a vision to the future when you have for

1136
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 3: all your friends are dying, the acceptance of that. Yes,

1137
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: I know, there's so many times where he's like, oh,

1138
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 3: I wish I kissed her on the cheek for after dinner.

1139
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: She passed two days later.

1140
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: Yes, it is about this sort of radical acceptance of

1141
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: the passage of time and looking at it like with

1142
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: love and gratitude, appreciation, but also acknowledging when you are

1143
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 2: being at prick. And he is a little bitch about

1144
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: Star Wars, but he's kind of like, and I know,

1145
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of a little bitch about it, and

1146
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: he does admit all of that accepted, and there is

1147
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: this just beautiful calm and he's making peace of his

1148
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: own death by writing this book being like, yes, I

1149
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 2: know I'm going to go soon and it's been lovely.

1150
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: And he doesn't even have to say that, because that's

1151
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: like the thesis. It's already in there.

1152
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: No, it's already kind of the subtle tone of it.

1153
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 3: So go to your local dump and find it.

1154
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: Find this book by alic Inness, and please go to

1155
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: linktree dot COM's or CBC the Pod and buy tickets

1156
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: for our upcoming tour on the West Coast and the

1157
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: East Coast. You do not want to miss.

1158
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 3: Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New.

1159
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: York, Boston, Massachusetts, September seventh. You want to be there,

1160
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: best best. This production of Subody book Club at the

1161
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: Old Vic, of course, was produced in the Royal Air

1162
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: Force by Darby Masters, who had a huge success in

1163
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 2: London but didn't exactly set Hudson on fire.

1164
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: In the supervising producers Sir Abooze Vah. We were mates

1165
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 3: in the war, the War of nineteen ten, and then

1166
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 3: we ended up acting together in the West End. This

1167
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 3: production was executive produced by Lady Christina Everett. I did

1168
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 3: a production of Hamlet with her in nineteen forty two,

1169
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: and where we been chumps and coworkers ever since. Well,

1170
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 3: the theme song was done by the most lovely musician

1171
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: was from Germany, I believe, Stephen Phillips Hall, Yes.

1172
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: But he did. I He had a quick stint at

1173
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: the Royal Court, and then, of course, that being old God,

1174
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: moved on to the West End. After a did a

1175
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 2: good run of the show for about six weeks I believe,

1176
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: before there was a fire.

1177
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 3: Oh my, my my. The artwork, of course, was by

1178
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: Teddy Blanks, who was in Marula's cohort from the forties

1179
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 3: of the Modernist and Cubism movement, a Darling fellow, though

1180
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 3: I was always suspicious that he wanted Marula for his own.

1181
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: The podcast was originally birth well on vacation in Crete.

1182
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: Of course, there was nothing to do back then but

1183
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 2: a small village that served lunch and then close shop

1184
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: for about seven hours. And so we were there sipping

1185
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: our tea rather slowly, I might add, when we concocted

1186
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 2: the idea with prologed projects and the rest, as they say,

1187
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: is history.

1188
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: This might be crass to mention, but would you please

1189
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 3: rate us on Apple podcast? It means so much and

1190
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: it boosts our egos and of course, you know, lets

1191
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: other people know this podcast out there.

1192
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's wrong to admit having that desire.

1193
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: And of course, the one last thing that I want

1194
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: to remind you is it's embarrassing and I know that

1195
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm nothing but a digital panhandler right now. But if

1196
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: you go to Patreon dot COM's at CBC the pod,

1197
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: there's more continent there. I mean, there's another whole play

1198
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: every week. And I think it's really important to support

1199
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: the arts at this stage, especially when the government is

1200
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: doing so much to trample on our feeling of expression.

1201
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: God damn, Tony Blair is stupid. Worn Iraq healing for

1202
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: the Americans like a dog