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Speaker 2: What's up the generation? Welcome to the New BCS as

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Speaker 2: part of bb O C. I'm Stucky and this is

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Speaker 2: the Week three recount, Week Forward look Ahead. Joining me

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Speaker 2: as always are the other members of the New BCS,

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Speaker 2: Colin Wilson and Brett McMurphy. If you're watching on our

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Speaker 2: And if you're listening via podcast, welcome back. If you're new.

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Speaker 2: Each and every week, Colin I will have a full

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Speaker 2: recap episode with our voicemails that comes out Monday morning

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Speaker 2: and then early in the week, myself, Colin and Brett

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Speaker 2: get together and talk some more high level, broader topics

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Speaker 2: with a betting spin. Gentlemen, how goes it?

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Speaker 3: Colin, I'm just here for the segment where we ask

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Speaker 3: Brett if somebody's gonna get fired and he gets upset

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Speaker 3: because Mike Norvel went undefeated last season. There's no way

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Speaker 3: he's getting fired. So I'm waiting to see what coach

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Speaker 2: I mean, Brett, what's the record where he is actually

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Speaker 2: in Jeopardy? No recording go ohen twelve.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because they have like eighty million dollars they'd have

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Speaker 1: to pay him. And by the way, Colin, you're referencing

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Speaker 1: when I was asked by Charlie about Dabo Sweeney. I

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, if they want to get rid of them, fine,

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Speaker 1: Off top of my head, it's at least eighty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: So are you going to do a jimbo with him

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Speaker 1: I just don't see it happening this year. They're yeah,

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Speaker 1: And my Bowl projections, I don't have Florida State making

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Speaker 1: State clinched the first underticket in the FPS under nine

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Yeah, I mean I made a joke Tony to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, all right, so let's go by the way.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the show, we'll hear some of

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Speaker 2: collins conversation earlier today with new Bdoc contributor Johnny Manziel

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Speaker 2: in his weekly early season segment, Johnny's and Tangibles, So

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Speaker 2: stay tuned for a segment of that at the end

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Speaker 2: of the show. You can also find that entire segment

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Speaker 2: on our new YouTube channel. One of the news items

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Speaker 2: of this week is Texas overtakes Georgia as number one.

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Speaker 2: I really don't care. I think the most interesting part

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Speaker 1: Yes, that it doesn't matter, but you're dead on, like

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Speaker 1: So that's why of Georgia ranked number one on my

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Speaker 2: General Booty must watch TV leading the undefeated war Hawks

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Speaker 2: So far? Is he legit? And would you I? I

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Speaker 3: for everybody, because ULM has played really good football. They

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Speaker 3: But now you look what arch Manning did with that

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Speaker 3: Arch took off for a sixty seven yard run. Now

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with some of the depth concerns at running back.

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Speaker 2: That's a great point that you raised, So we'll keep

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Speaker 2: an eye on that quarterback situation. It's definitely going to

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Speaker 2: gets back healthy. But let's stay in the SEC. It

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Speaker 2: still feels weird for me to say. I'm still getting

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Speaker 2: Telling you Inn now, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I don't see two conference losses on there. Old Miss

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Speaker 2: Well, Tennessee goes to Georgia, Ole Miss host Georgia. Uh,

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Speaker 2: We'll see if Oklahoma can get enough protection. They can.

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma's doing a lot of injuries. We'll see how to

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Speaker 2: help they are. I like, oklaham over touchdown. I just

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Speaker 2: can't get to that number. Calm, do you have any

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Speaker 3: I don't, No way, I can't. Yeah, I can't get

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Speaker 3: It at seven and a half. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: He didn't even want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: This game at SEC media Day, Okay, So I mean

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Speaker 3: we have a I can't wait. It's a fascinating game,

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Speaker 3: it's his alma mater. It doesn't matter. He was fired

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Speaker 1: He was fired. That's that's the lasting memory for Josh Hipel.

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Speaker 1: They're in the bottom twenty and the yards per play, obviously,

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Speaker 1: But as far as as far as Hypel wanting to

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Speaker 2: In Norman, Well, I agree with you in some sense

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Speaker 2: I'll push back a little bit in that. I mean

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Speaker 2: much more talented. And I think their defense is right

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Speaker 2: And I also don't think Tennessee is Texas. I think

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Speaker 2: should be a higher scoring game. You got to take

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Speaker 2: then I've upgraded Tennessee a lot. I wasn't as high

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Speaker 2: as others on Tennessee coming into the year. They haven't

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Speaker 2: it's tough to gauge when you're you know, beating up

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Speaker 2: I liked NC State in that game numbers wise, and

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Speaker 2: we've since seen that NC State has issues, so maybe

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Speaker 2: that win wasn't as impressive. But I can't argue with

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Speaker 2: the results when you're beating teams guy that much and

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Speaker 2: putting up that, I have to upgrade you a lot.

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Speaker 2: So I've I've upgraded Tennessee a lot, downgraded Oklahoma a bit.

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Speaker 2: I just can't get the seven and a half. And

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Speaker 2: I think I could be doing Tennessee could be up

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Speaker 2: twenty one nothing and there's a major factory when it's over.

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Speaker 2: But I can't get there, get gone there.

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Speaker 3: There's a major factor in from that NC State game

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Speaker 3: that plays out here. Oklahoma's had massive offensive line problems

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Speaker 3: and the study needs to be on their tackles. James Pierce,

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Speaker 3: one of the best edge rushers in the nation, is

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Speaker 3: going up against this Oklahoma offensive line. If Oklahoma doesn't

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Speaker 3: have it at the tackle position, Jackson Arnold's in trouble.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna get eaten for breakfast. So you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not swaying either side. I still got

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the injuries are gonna be key.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Piers factor in.

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Speaker 3: N C State just just mall the mall the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so like they've had their right tackle out, They've

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Speaker 2: the health of Oklahoma's offensive line is paramount this week.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, just the numbers play for me. But I'm

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Speaker 2: the thing is that they have to start fast. The

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Speaker 2: saw that the NC State. NC State was kind of

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Speaker 2: hanging around with Tennessee. Throw a pick six and then

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Speaker 2: D line was teeing off, so they can't. Oklahoma can't

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Speaker 2: You're not going to come back from too far down

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Speaker 2: not going to get that many stops. But brand, I'll

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Speaker 2: just ask you the yes or no question. Do you

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Speaker 2: think Tennessee and or Ole Miss ends that streak under

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Speaker 2: Hypel and Kiffin of losing two conference games?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't. I think they'll lose to Tennessee prior

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to that Florida State fiasco. Florida is

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Speaker 2: also a fiasco. Stop your older brothers Florida power programs.

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Speaker 2: I mean they both have losing records through three games

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Speaker 2: for the first time since Eisenhower was in office. That's

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Speaker 2: how long it's been. I I don't know which right.

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Speaker 2: I'll ask you because you would know more than me.

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Speaker 2: Is the program still in okay shape at Florida State

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Speaker 2: and Florida Are which situation right now is worse? And

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Speaker 2: then I'll save a billy question for Colin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think Florida's situation is worse. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't you know, you guys are the number numbers. Guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with Florida State.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think part of its mental now, they're just they're pressing.

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Speaker 1: Look they've got the they don't have a quarterback. It's

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Speaker 1: been exposed. You know, they've fallen and they can't get

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Speaker 1: back up. The issue with Florida is the uncertainty going forward.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty certain, you know, Billy Napier will

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Speaker 1: not coach next year at Florida breaking news. Everyone knows

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Speaker 1: that they've got a president that it resigned in July,

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Speaker 1: of campus leadership positions that are open. The athletic director

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Speaker 1: that hired Billy Napier and who hired and fired Dan

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Speaker 1: Mullin is still there, so you keep him to hire

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Speaker 1: Napier's replacement. That's an unknown. I was texting with some

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Speaker 1: sources at Florida that I've known for quite a while

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Speaker 1: after Saturday's game. On them said, quote, today was rock

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Speaker 1: bottom here, even worse than the Georgia Southern loss in

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen since that team was so decimated by injuries

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Speaker 1: late in the season. This is just a bad staff

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Speaker 1: here that is over their head.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty damning. And I can't imagine Florida staw

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Speaker 2: is like five like a legit elite teams still left

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Speaker 2: on their schedule. Yeah, and I'm curious to see, like

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Speaker 2: does the swamp even fill out for some of these

430
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Speaker 2: remaining games, because I can't imagine there's much enthusiasm left

431
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Speaker 2: there or in Tallahassee.

432
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Speaker 3: Well, stuck from a from a numbers perspective, like we

433
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: are when we put out our power ratings yesterday we

434
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Speaker 3: had the Mississippi State game at five and a half,

435
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Speaker 3: which Florida is favorite. Should be interesting to see if

436
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: they show up after that. It's a Pickham game with

437
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: UCF next, and then that's it underdogs the rest of

438
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Speaker 3: the time. And we know that that five game stretch

439
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: at the end of the season, it's like not even

440
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 3: small underdogs, right Georgia Texas at least three touchdowns, so

441
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 3: you had your chance to win games and get over

442
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: that wind. Total of four and a half is where

443
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: it closed open five and a half, got down to

444
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Speaker 3: four and a half. That window is passed. And you know,

445
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: I know athletic directors don't look at that, but there's

446
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 3: just a lot of decisions that need to be made

447
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: here and I can't imagine they just stand pat with

448
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: the with the cards that they have in their hand.

449
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Speaker 2: Well, is a group of five football better with Billy

450
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Speaker 2: Napier in it. I think, so that's where he belongs, maybe.

451
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: The South Florida, after South Florida, after Alex Glesh moves

452
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Speaker 3: on to a Power five program, Power four, right.

453
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any thoughts. I know

454
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Speaker 2: that you just mentioned you were talking to some people

455
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Speaker 2: close to the Florida program, Like you know I have

456
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Speaker 2: that's say, a specific name, but like, what what direction

457
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: should they go? And like was it a mistake to

458
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 2: move on from Mohan? Like I know the recruiting went down,

459
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: but now looking back, it's like, oh, kind of wish

460
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Speaker 2: you're still main Like what direction do you think or

461
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: would you suggest they go? And like do you should

462
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 2: they try to get a young up and comer from

463
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Speaker 2: the group of five? Do they need someone that's already

464
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Speaker 2: established a big name to come in, uh to kind

465
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Speaker 2: of juice up the fan base? Like where do you

466
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Speaker 2: think they will or should go?

467
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Speaker 1: Yes, stuck, I don't it's I don't think it's any

468
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Speaker 1: big secret. The boosters at Florida want Lane Kiffin. The

469
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Speaker 1: The problem is if for to go from Ole Miss

470
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Speaker 1: to Florida, no far as fans support resources, all that stuff.

471
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Speaker 1: No it's not. You're in the recruiting in the state

472
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Speaker 1: of Florida. The issue is, you know we talked about

473
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Speaker 1: ole Miss, you know, playoff chances or whatever. If ole

474
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Speaker 1: Miss gets the playoff as expected, if you're Florida, are

475
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Speaker 1: you really going to wait until a coach finishes his

476
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: playoff front? I mean that we could be getting into January.

477
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Speaker 1: You totally lose that the signing period. So that's that's

478
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: the unknown in this whole deal. I've seen Drink's name

479
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: linked also as a possibility.

480
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Speaker 2: Stuck.

481
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Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're past trying to get

482
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Speaker 1: a hot g G five or G six coach. They

483
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Speaker 1: realized they they tried that with Napier. It didn't work out.

484
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Speaker 1: Everyone that I talked to said, the guy's a great guy,

485
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Speaker 1: is a good guy. They thought it would work out,

486
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Speaker 1: but it just didn't. That stuff happens, you know, look

487
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: look at Scott Frost at Nebraska, for example. One A

488
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 1: for a coach we totally whipped on. So stuck they

489
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Speaker 1: go for a they go for a Power Conference head coach.

490
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Speaker 1: And you look at the history of the SEC. The

491
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Speaker 1: SEC loves hiring coach existing head coaches at other SEC schools.

492
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Speaker 1: So the unknown is if ole Miss is having a

493
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Speaker 1: nice season and goes deep. Kiffin certainly is not going

494
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Speaker 1: to resign in the middle of the playoffs. You take

495
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: another job, But that's that's that's the guy who is

496
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: clearly number one on their list. But kind of making

497
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: it a little bit trickier is win or if Florida

498
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: gets rid of the athletic director, do you wait for

499
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Speaker 1: the new athletic director to come on board to hire

500
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Speaker 1: the new coach and or will the interim president make

501
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: that decision? I'm told right now he's pushing back on that.

502
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: So are they going to wait till they get a

503
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: new president? That's why things are so uncertain on what's

504
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: going to happen at the University of Florida right now.

505
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the good thing is with Kiffin, like

506
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: when you do get him, if you do get him,

507
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: then he doesn't have to rebuild an entire program in today's.

508
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: He'll portal to death.

509
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway over, Yeah, so that is the good thing

510
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: at least. I don't know if I'm kiffing and money.

511
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, Money's gonna talk. But

512
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: if I'm kiffing, you're you're making a ton of money

513
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: in a good spot. You have this ol Miss program

514
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: up and coming, and there's just not as much expectations.

515
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 2: I don't think overall than at Florida. At the end

516
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 2: of the day, money talks. But I might I might

517
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: just stamp pat and wait for uh, a bigger job

518
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: than Florida does? Does Does that ever happen? Does Alabama

519
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: or Georgia ever go to Lane in the future?

520
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: I don't know how long.

521
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: How long is it gonna be until they actually have

522
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: an open head coaching job too? That that is a question.

523
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: Uh, but stuck would stuck? Don't you agree? Florida is

524
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: a better program than ole Miss? Yeah? Talking about win

525
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: loss record, I'm just everything encompassing the programs, I agree, But.

526
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: It's definitely and it Lane's part of that. But it

527
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: feels like it's shrinking again in.

528
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: Your Isn't your dating pool better at the Grove than

529
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: it is in Gainesville?

530
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Lane, Lane does not have to well.

531
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Speaker 1: Both here, that's the case. Never would have left usc Yeah.

532
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: Maybe Lane Lane to Tempe.

533
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: Maybe if Kenny's only standing there because he doesn't want

534
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: to get fired.

535
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that was a great clip, Colin. If you're

536
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: if you put yourself in lane shoes, are you enticed

537
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: by a Florida offer or are you staying me?

538
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: Personally? I would go because the ambition, the chip on

539
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: the shoulder that I know that I carry every day

540
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: being from the poorest state in the nation, Like you know,

541
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: I would take it. But if you're coming to Florida,

542
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: you have to accept the fact that you have to

543
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: be able to handle the transfer portal, which he can't.

544
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: You have to be able to handle in Il's which

545
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: he can. You have to be able to dominate other state,

546
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: other schools in your state. I mean, this is not

547
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: just Miami and Florida state. UCF is now power for

548
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: South Florida is challenging, you know powerful how long until

549
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: they're brought up, you know, up the ranks out of

550
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: the minor leagues into the end of the Big Boys show.

551
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: This is a highly competitive He would be going from

552
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: a two school state, which one, you know, the one

553
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: he's going up against, is pretty down to just to

554
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: see a sharks. So what is it inside of you?

555
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: Do you have the ambition, that chip on your shoulder

556
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: and enough sleep in the tank to go take this job?

557
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: Because that's what you have to have to succeed there,

558
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: but you have more you I would say you have

559
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: more recruits divided by those five schools in Florida than

560
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: you do divided by.

561
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: Those two schools in Mississippi. True, And I again take

562
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: the coach out of it. I think Florida's head and

563
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: shoulders above Ole Miss is a program if you just

564
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: take who the coaches are, Florida's much better than than

565
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Speaker 1: ole Miss. Plus, you can go to Florida and you

566
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: know you want to win a national title like Urban did,

567
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: like Spurrier did you know? And I guess you could say, well,

568
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: you want to be at ole Miss to be the

569
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Speaker 1: first one to win a title there.

570
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: Well, let's shift to the Big ten. Talk about another

571
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: program that's not it doesn't it's not the you know

572
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, ten, fifteen years ago where this program

573
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: was way more relevant than it is today. And talking

574
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: about Wisconsin, Wisconsin blown out by Alabama. Thought they came

575
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: out pretty feisty on offense, like Van Dyke looked a

576
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: little better than Van Dyke gets hurt. I still don't

577
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: know why Luke Fickle went to the air raid and

578
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 2: chose Longo to completely won eighty. This offense, I mean

579
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: this Wisconsin, which is what you're known for, like a

580
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: big offensive lineman, power run game. You're in the Big Ten.

581
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: I get it that like Oregon's coming over and you

582
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: got to compete with Ohio State, but you're also playing

583
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: like in weather a lot. It went completely away from

584
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: their identity and it just hasn't worked, And I'm not

585
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: sure that they would have. I think, actually, I'm pretty

586
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: sure they would have been much better off today if

587
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: they kind of just stuck to their formula. Now, you

588
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: really didn't have the upside, you know, to win a

589
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: national championship. So maybe that's what they were thinking. But

590
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: I still don't think a program like Wisconsin is getting

591
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: or has the potential to build out the roster and

592
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: get the skill positioned talent to compete with the Ohio States.

593
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: The Georgia's like they're never going to get to Texas

594
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: is they're never going to get to that Oregon. That's

595
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: that first tier. So stick with what you know and

596
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: what your strengths are and your identity and play to that.

597
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, I can. I think they're worse off now

598
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: than they were under Paul Christ And there's a chance

599
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: can Indiana become like the new Wisconsin in the Big Ten? Brad,

600
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts here?

601
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: I talked to Northern Illinois athletic director Sean Fraser, and

602
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: in I use entire starting offensive line is from the

603
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: state of Wisconsin. Fraser was a former assistant athletic director

604
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin under Barry Alvarez, so he knows what old

605
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: school Wisconsin football was. Fraser told me, Brett, we look

606
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: more like Wisconsin than Wisconsin does, and I think that's

607
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: pretty tallying. And you nailed it, stuck what you're trying

608
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: to put a square peg into a round hole. And

609
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: you know people wanted Paul christ gone. All he did

610
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: was win seventy two percent of his games, six and

611
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: one in the bowls three New Year six games. But

612
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, the grass is always greener. And now they're

613
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: doing this, you know, new up tempo with longo, they're

614
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: going to pass more. As we're taping this, on Monday night,

615
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: news came out that Van Dyke is out for the

616
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: season for Wisconsin. That's certainly not going to make things

617
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: easier for the rest of the year. Man, Indiana, you know,

618
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: cast your tickets, Colin and I have big ten Meetia

619
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: days and Signetti talked a lot of noise, but you

620
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: know what stuck. He is backing it up so far.

621
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Speaker 3: But do you know what the big difference? You know

622
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: what the big difference is here. Indiana has an identity.

623
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: They know who they are, they know their players, they

624
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: know their roster, and they go out and they execute.

625
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: This is all on Luke Fickle's shoulders completely. They are

626
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: much worse off. When Paul Chris was there, they had

627
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: an identity. They were going to line up three two

628
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: three tight ends and they were going to boom it

629
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 3: up the middle with running backs that were three hundred

630
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: pounds and you're just gonna have to try to stop it.

631
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: So what is Luke Fickle? What does he do right

632
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: on offense? I'm gonna go get Phil Longo. That Phil

633
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: Longo offense look great at Old Miss when you've got

634
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: dk Metcalf that can essentially dunk on a twelve foot goal.

635
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 3: Or he went to North Carolina and he's got Drake

636
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: May running it to exclusive athletes on the outside. When

637
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: Phil Longo can run twenty seconds per play to some

638
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: of the best athletes in the nation, it makes that

639
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: offense look tremendous sunny and I just talked about this

640
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: for those of you who didn't listen to the podcast

641
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: last week, Wisconsin brought long Go in and last year

642
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: they ran all ten, no twelve. That's no tight end sets.

643
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,479
Speaker 3: This year thirty five percent, they're running twelve. They're lining

644
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 3: up two tight ends on thirty five percent of snaps

645
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Speaker 3: and they've run zer zero ten. It's not Longo's offense anymore.

646
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 3: They used to be twenty seconds per play. Now they're

647
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: twenty seven seconds per play. Longo is just up there

648
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 3: holding a clipboard or a marker or something because he's

649
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: not in charge of this offense. I don't know who's

650
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 3: making these decisions on formation and personnel, but they are lost.

651
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: And they're lost because Fickle said, I'm a defensive guy.

652
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get what looks good on paper with

653
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Speaker 3: the offense and bring them up here and think that

654
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: I have the same athletes on the outside. He just

655
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: even at media day, brat, he wouldn't he wouldn't say

656
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: like what the real problem was. And finally I got

657
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: him to choke up and say, we just didn't have

658
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: what we needed on the outside to create separation on

659
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: explosive plays. Duh, you can't run Longo's offense without those players.

660
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: This is all Fickle's fault and they're in worst shape

661
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: than they were under Paul Chris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Fickle stayed in Cincy, Wisconsin. I think is better

663
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: off today since he is also better off today, and

664
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Speaker 2: Saderfield should have just went become an analyst somewhere.

665
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Speaker 1: Got the victory bell, got the victory bell that story.

666
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Speaker 3: Yes, can I I get odds on the Northern Illinois

667
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 3: ad becoming the new Wisconsin ad? Is that going to happen?

668
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: Brett? Not anytime soon. They got a guy there.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to the sources. Stumper quick Big twelve

670
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: thoughts looks up wide open, Utah Verse, Oklahoma State. This

671
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: week's a big one. Kansas State will travel to BYU

672
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: trying to take care of business in provo. Iowa State.

673
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a number of teams that you really

674
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Speaker 2: could could mention here as in the running I'm throwing

675
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: I'll throw my Iowa State hat in the ring, mainly

676
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: because I'm biased and I'm stubborn and they're my preseason

677
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: future ah So, but you can make a case for

678
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: a lot of teams here Colin as of right now,

679
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: where you looking?

680
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could sit here and pump my

681
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: chest that the UCF conference futures are alive. But it

682
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: was a one point game, and frankly, I think most

683
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: of these games are going to be a field goal,

684
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 3: one possession game. So really, you know, when you look

685
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 3: at remaining strength to schedule, which is what you probably

686
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: want to focus on. If you're looking at the big twelve, uh,

687
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 3: you know you want to find the worst one. There's

688
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: a it's definitely not gonna be Arizona State BYU Colorado.

689
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the easies. Baylor's got an extremely

690
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: easy path here, UCF and Kansas State they all have

691
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: the easiest remaining strength of schedules. So you know, by

692
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: that standard, do you think U, c F and Kansas

693
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: State are in the driver's seat. But I think we

694
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: have a lot of one possession outcomes in the final

695
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: minute of the game in this conference, which is why

696
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: all three of us have said this is the this

697
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: is the conference of chaos. No national champions, but it's

698
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: gonna be the most fun to watch, and we just

699
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: had that proven with TCU and UCF.

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Speaker 2: And A bye bye is the reward. Brad, are you

701
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: going homer Homertown here? No?

702
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Speaker 1: But what I mean, like you guys have said, there

703
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: is probably like eight teams that we thought could win

704
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: the conference. I would I would remove Arizona and Kansas

705
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: from that list, both of them West Virginia I thought,

706
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: I thought we well, they weren't initially on my list,

707
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: they were on yours. They weren't online. They could be removed.

708
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: You know, Stuck will know about about my pokes in

709
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: the next two weeks. Utah and Kansas State back to back.

710
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Speaker 1: You know, Oklahoma State should have lost Arkansas. They didn't.

711
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State's colin, have you ever lived in Utah? Because

712
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State has beat and covered against Arkansas and Tulsa

713
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. Please tell me you lived part

714
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: of your life in Utah, and I'll put it all

715
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: down on the Pokes.

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Speaker 3: I had a three month contract in Salt Lake City.

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00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: If that counts, then there we go, do it?

718
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: Okay, cowboys buy a million, So Stuck, I don't know. Look,

719
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Speaker 1: you know Ollie Gordon's not running the ball. They're trying

720
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: to get Bowman to beat him through the air. So far,

721
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: he's had great success against Tulsa so so success against Arkansas,

722
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: this Utah game will be incredible. I'd argue too, two

723
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: of the best or the two best games will be

724
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Speaker 1: in Oklahoma Saturday, Tennessee at Oklahoma U taught Oklahoma State

725
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: being told Rising will return the week. He'll be back.

726
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: Had stitches on his ring finger on his throwing hand,

727
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: so he'll be good to go. I think this will

728
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: be a nice matchup. I wouldn't be surprised if Utah won.

729
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Oklahoma State, you know this this year

730
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Speaker 1: play here. I actually think maybe Utah may win this game.

731
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Speaker 1: I've had Utah ranked on top of the Big twelve

732
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: as far as my AP ballot all season. But you know,

733
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: like like Colin said, every game this league's going to

734
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: go down in the final minute. So it's like the

735
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: old NBA days, you know, turn on in the last

736
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: two minutes because that's when the game is going to

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Speaker 1: get decided.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll break that game down later in the week

739
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Speaker 2: on our podcast in our live show ten Saturday. Can

740
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State get Ali Gordon going? He's had a disappointing

741
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: start to the year. Alan Bowman was terrific last week.

742
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: But I think if Gordon has you know, a huge

743
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: day like he's capable of. That'll go a long way

744
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: in helping Oklahoma State's chances of getting that vict All right,

745
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 2: before we go, we have a sources stumper from mister

746
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Speaker 2: Brett McMurphy. As always, Brett, what do you got for us?

747
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: It may sound easy, but it will test your head

748
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: and your mind and your brain too.

749
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: There I go. I don't claim to be No. Thirty

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Speaker 2: six az.

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00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Here we go sources Stumper, America's favorite game show, Stucky.

752
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: You've got a four to three lead over Colin.

753
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: This week we have five answers.

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00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Collin, since you're behind, I'll let you go first. Pretty

755
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: simple question. In the past two seasons, only five coaches

756
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: have taken their team to conference title games. In each

757
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: of the last two seasons, five coaches have done that. Colin,

758
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Chris Climbing, incorrect, stuck? Wait, this is each of the

759
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: last five or each of the last two. Each of

760
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: the last two are.

761
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 2: Mean, Kirby smart, that's one.

762
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,959
Speaker 3: The obvious one on you is Dabo. I'll say Dabo Sweeney.

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00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: And correct Chadwell, no, man, I'm surprised. Do you guys

764
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: usually get the Kyle Whittingham. No, they didn't go last year.

765
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, why did I say, Chadwell?

766
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: A lot of editing by David.

767
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, David, you gotta gotta love this one.

768
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: The job, all right, I gotta go by conference to

769
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: Al's lay too, fucking Jason.

770
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: Kandle Yes, there we Ryan Silverfield.

771
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: That's gonna be my next guest.

772
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: No, you guys cover college football right? Oh Man roasted.

773
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: But you know what, Brett, some of these conference championship

774
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: games are a joke. My next guess would be a

775
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: guy that gets built up.

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00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: It's Stucky's guess. It's the questions simple, it's just you guys.

777
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: Are you're distracted or something?

778
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: Gotta pull up a list of teams.

779
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I don't tweet the answer before the show,

780
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: it's a little bit harder, isn't it?

781
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: Days late dow Sean Clark.

782
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: Calling your up. Kirk Farns, Oh my gosh, what.

783
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: They're in Indianapolis? Haven't they been two of the last three.

784
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: Years, two consecutive the last two years? Oh my god.

785
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: The question is in the past two seasons, only five

786
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: coaches have made two conference title games. Who are the coaches?

787
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: They are all currently head coaches, stuck.

788
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: Deboor, no landing.

789
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: Are you guys going to give up?

790
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: No, I'm pulling up teams again.

791
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: You need to send David like a gift basket or

792
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: something for cutting thirty minutes off of this pod.

793
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 2: I'll text the address. Is it Brom Brom, Jeff Brohm?

794
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: There you go. He did it at Perdue in Louisville.

795
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 3: Rtt lashly.

796
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: Stuck. This could be a Hawaii five, Oh Sweet sum roll.

797
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: That is correct. He went the last two years with

798
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: Troy Colin. You want to avoid the shut out? Here

799
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: one last I don't know which one.

800
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: Thomas Hammock. No, this is it?

801
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: Fritz Willie Fritz five and oh Sweet stuck.

802
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: And that was hard. Is a lot.

803
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: The conferences have changed and the coaches have changed teams. Okay,

804
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: so right five coaches. Only two are at the school

805
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 1: where they made the trips. Kirby Smart, Jason Kandall Somemral

806
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: did it twice at Troy, He's at Tulane. Fritz did

807
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: it twice at Tulane, He's at Houston. Brahm did it

808
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: at Perdue in Louisville.

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00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: The toughest sources Stumper of twenty twenty four, which we've

811
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Speaker 1: really had to made.

812
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: You think and you took forever. I like that one.

813
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: All right, Well, work with the road before we go,

814
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: su former Liberty quarterback when Leak Willis was forced into

815
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: the starting role for the Packers this week. Fortunately for me,

816
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: he didn't mess up too much. Got to the window

817
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: with the Packers. But before you didn't see it. Before

818
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: a third down, his center puked on the ball and

819
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: then snapped it, like literally right before the snap, and

820
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: Willis like grabbed it and like I think he like

821
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: switched hands put the ball. What are you doing in

822
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: this scenario? Me personally, I'm pooch punning it right away,

823
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: get this out of my hands. I'm playing against Anthony

824
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: Richardson and a Colts offense that can't move the ball.

825
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 3: Here.

826
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 2: I think I'll think about punning anyway with Malik Willis

827
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 2: want to have a lead, So I'm punning, pooch punt Colin.

828
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

829
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

830
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Speaker 3: I mean, if it's me, this might be the first

831
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Speaker 3: time in history you want to hold the ball out

832
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: while you run. Who wants to snag a puke ball?

833
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: But on the other si, maybe you get some of

834
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: those defensive linemen to puke up too, and like, maybe

835
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: you have to sit out a couple of plays. I

836
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: don't know, but I mean seriously, though, you're not gonna

837
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: run the ball out, but you would, I would think

838
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: instead of pooch punny, you would immediately react to throwing

839
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: this thing out of bounds as fast as possible. The

840
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: fact that the league tucked it with no blockers on

841
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 3: third down. I mean it's third down, right, you don't

842
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: want to take any loss of yards. You just chalk

843
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: up the play. I probably would have chucked it instead

844
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: of running with it.

845
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 2: Right, are you holding onto the ball?

846
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: He was under center?

847
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: Now?

848
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: Shotgun gun? Shotgun? Oh easy? You you change the play, dude,

849
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: Switch with the running back, Carl Wildcat. Let let the

850
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Speaker 1: running back deal with it.

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00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: Just here, you take it.

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00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: All right?

853
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: But before we get out of here, here's a clip

854
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: from Collins conversation earlier today with Johnny Minzil.

855
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Speaker 3: That's up, that's space, that's up.

856
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: Step Tony football.

857
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: Arch Manning had his big this weekend for quinn Ewers

858
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 3: who got hurt. There is a piece of film that

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00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: just I fell off the couch because when you think

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Speaker 3: of the Manning name, you think of accurate passing. You

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Speaker 3: think of Super Bowls, you think of Peyton and Eli.

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Speaker 3: You don't really think of Cooper who had the burners.

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Speaker 3: And we've heard Peyton say it before that he actually

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Speaker 3: has some pretty good speed. The film that I want

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Speaker 3: to review with you this week was the zone read

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Speaker 3: executed by Arch and the questions that I have for

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Speaker 3: you running something like this so many times in your career,

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Speaker 3: did you TSA and contain just screw this up? Or

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Speaker 3: did Arch read it perfectly and absolutely turn on the

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Speaker 3: Jets that none of us expected. Was this more Arch

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Speaker 3: manning or was this more Utsa just missing the play?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think this is a lot to do

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Speaker 4: with just being a good football play what Arch is

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Speaker 4: coming in and asked to do. I mean, the defensive

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00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: end absolutely just fights and just ends up just taking

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Speaker 4: off after the running back. And he still, you know,

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Speaker 4: as he takes off, he's ten fifteen yards down field,

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Speaker 4: he still has a guy that he has to make

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Speaker 4: miss and still being able to do that, put a

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00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 4: little move on and take off. It's not something that

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00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: you have seen from this Texas offense. A lot with

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Speaker 4: a quarterback running the ball. We know, we don't see it.

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Speaker 4: We could Uwers very much, but for Archs to come

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Speaker 4: in and do this early, read it to perfection and

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Speaker 4: be able to outrace everybody to the end zone. You know,

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Speaker 4: I think as you're watching on Saturday, everybody's eyes kind

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Speaker 4: of like open up a little bit because this is

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Speaker 4: not something we're used to see.

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Speaker 3: Him, not at all, not with the name Manning on

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Speaker 3: the back of the jersey. But I think the big

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Speaker 3: question for Texas football, and I know Sarkesan is going

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00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: to be extremely political about this, right but once he

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Speaker 3: gets to red River and the Georgia the following week,

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Speaker 3: that's when quinn Ewers should be healthy. I would argue

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Speaker 3: that there might not be a quarterback battle because quinn

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Speaker 3: Ewers has negative thirteen career rushing yards on designed runs.

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Speaker 3: He can't run inside zone read like what we saw.

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Speaker 3: Does this become Arch's job?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think this is still very

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Speaker 4: much Quinn's job. I don't see this as being a

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Speaker 4: long term thing and one that's even going to bring

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Speaker 4: any decision as far as the Texas quarterback battle goes.

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Speaker 3: I know it's NFL, but we can't pass on this.

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Speaker 3: There's a puke ball in the NFL Malik Willis got

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Speaker 3: the chance to play some quarterback this weekend. His center

906
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: happened to vomit on his left hand and on the

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Speaker 3: ball before snow apping to Malik in shotgun. So I

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Speaker 3: have to ask you, Johnny, whether it's snot vasoline shit boogersvagisila.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever received the ball like that? And what

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Speaker 3: would Johnny Manziel do? Would you attempt to throw on

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Speaker 3: third down or just tuck it and go like Malik did.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you don't see this every day, but it

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Speaker 4: definitely happens. You know, you can definitely get a ball,

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Speaker 4: get a snap that maybe a little wet from the

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Speaker 4: pants or something like that, but definitely not a full

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Speaker 4: blown puke ball. I think you know, as you drop back,

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Speaker 4: you can kind of feel that thing in your hand

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Speaker 4: a little bit with what it is. So I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, just tucking that thing and taking off and

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Speaker 4: running and just chalking it up to a tough break.

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Speaker 4: But you know, being a quarterback, you have to be

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Speaker 4: able to deal with whatever comes your way. However that

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Speaker 4: snap comes out. But this is something you don't see

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Speaker 4: all the time. But the lineman and the trenches man

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Speaker 4: they're getting after it and sometimes you just have to

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Speaker 4: let it fly all right.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Johnny, Thanks as always to Colin and Brett

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Speaker 2: for joining me. Fun conversation. Hope you guys enjoyed it.

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