Speaker 1: Oh my god, Hello, did you miss us?
Speaker 2: I know I did, Jordan, and I hope.
Speaker 1: That you guys had a beautiful summer break. This is
Speaker 1: adulting and I'm Michelle Mite.
Speaker 3: And I'm Jordan Carlos, and we are back to help
Speaker 3: you through all things adulting.
Speaker 1: And guess what, everybody, we are a weekly show now, okay,
Speaker 1: so you can get us in your ears every single week.
Speaker 1: Just stuff us in your little holes.
Speaker 3: Huge news you'll never get second us.
Speaker 1: Jordan, I just realized two days after pouring rain that
Speaker 1: my basement got flooded, two.
Speaker 2: Days after you realize after down there, look at that.
Speaker 1: No, I don't go to the basement. I'd be watching
Speaker 1: them movies. I don't fuck with the basement. I even
Speaker 1: still run up really fast, like someone's chasing my feet. Yes.
Speaker 1: My husband's like, we should turn the attic into like
Speaker 1: a sitting room. I'm like, where's the killer gonna live?
Speaker 1: You don't because I'm sure somebody's living in the and
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit as long as they pick
Speaker 1: up after themselves.
Speaker 3: But like, hold on, so wait, what was flooded? How deep?
Speaker 3: Where was it at? What's the problem? Do you need
Speaker 3: a French pup?
Speaker 1: These are all follow up questions that I should go
Speaker 1: to Anglie's list and figure out. Honey, come on, I
Speaker 1: got big titties and freckles. You think I know about flooding? No? No,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness. First of all, hello, everybody, welcome to adulting.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what it is. At this point,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shall you tell us Jordan Carlos. Look, this
Speaker 1: is not a humble brag. I worked really hard. I'm
Speaker 1: a homeowner. It is a full time job. All the
Speaker 1: carpets were wet and everything was soaked, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh boy, there was a big flood and now I
Speaker 1: have to get rid of it because I don't suck
Speaker 1: around the mold, yeah, or anything wet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the silent killer. You don't want that.
Speaker 2: It's not cute.
Speaker 1: It's not cute. And you know who's cute?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 2: Sorry, very cute.
Speaker 1: Why are you saying it like that?
Speaker 2: Because I've got.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to eat a salad and talk to you
Speaker 3: at the same time, and it's yeah, you're.
Speaker 1: Trying to eat a salad and like have me do
Speaker 1: all the talking, which is fine by me. This is
Speaker 1: just like hanging out with.
Speaker 3: It there's lots of people out here that love salad
Speaker 3: amsr oh god, I'm about to put some ranch on this.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's all the internet is right now.
Speaker 1: I feel like my kid's growing up watching the internet.
Speaker 1: They're just gonna think that cooking is just whispering and
Speaker 1: cutting onions and putting them in a plate and then
Speaker 1: what I do is get my Chipotle?
Speaker 2: Are there any more steps other than that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're reading a recipe your hands are dirty.
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, what does it say half of what?
Speaker 1: Oh shit? Do we have vanilla?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, your cussin half the time? Yeah, tea spoon versus tablespoon. Yeah,
Speaker 3: bacon soda versus bacon powder, baking soda too much. Let's
Speaker 3: get back on track.
Speaker 1: Can I just say you're the one taking this off track?
Speaker 1: Because what out was trying to say is, yes, be
Speaker 1: careful what you wish for truly.
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: Because we have to take care of our homes and
Speaker 1: our cars more than we take care of our bodies.
Speaker 1: At this point, it feels like it requires more work.
Speaker 1: It feels like there's always something we got to do.
Speaker 1: The only thing you want to do is just sit
Speaker 1: down and enjoy your home and then here come a flood.
Speaker 1: Al Roca, why can you tell me, al Roca.
Speaker 3: It's a good problem to have. But yes, there's always
Speaker 3: something happening with the house, always something. Yes, we have
Speaker 3: a flood zone in our house. And what happens is
Speaker 3: this one little spot like a drain gets clogged like
Speaker 3: leaves and things like that, and then that can raise up,
Speaker 3: especially in a flash flood, and then come into our home.
Speaker 3: And that's not cool. So I have to go out
Speaker 3: in the middle of a storm and like take the
Speaker 3: trap off, and.
Speaker 2: Then it just like sucks all the water down, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, what in the All black reboot of Tornado is
Speaker 1: going on? I mean, it is giving, Hateful eight, it
Speaker 1: is giving.
Speaker 3: But basement apartments in New York City's real people are like, oh, I.
Speaker 2: Can fuck with this is somebodice baseball apartment. And then your.
Speaker 1: Shits so many things happen. Yeah, your shit's fucked because
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff in New York is uneven
Speaker 1: and so do you know what I mean? And so
Speaker 1: that water is gonna find its way. Ooh baby, it's
Speaker 1: a whole lot.
Speaker 2: But we both have one hundred year old houses, right,
Speaker 2: you got a hundred year old house. Got a hundred
Speaker 2: ye old house?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, everybody, I got a hundred year old house.
Speaker 2: It's held up by hope streams and aarp.
Speaker 3: Yes, I have leaks too, It's yeah. I mean I
Speaker 3: love it. I love having the roof over my head.
Speaker 3: But the upkeep is real. Yep, keep it so real.
Speaker 3: Maybe I need to go retire and go to Boca
Speaker 3: someplace like that.
Speaker 1: Please don't because the podcast would not be happening if
Speaker 1: you no shape to Boco. But also shape. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: interesting because these houses are beautiful because they're essentially like landmarks,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yes, yes, but it's like,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Get something new because I
Speaker 1: don't even feel like the shit's being built well the
Speaker 1: infrastructure in America. Let me just not get on some word.
Speaker 1: We can retual metal bullshit right now. But we just
Speaker 1: need to have better standards, is all. We just need
Speaker 1: better standards. You remember that building that collapsed in Florida,
Speaker 1: Bridges collapsed a ship, Come on now, don't do that
Speaker 1: to us.
Speaker 3: Was a parking garage collapse here in New York City
Speaker 3: killed a guy parking garage bam. You know how much
Speaker 3: you got to pay the park had to pay for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy, that's crazy. One of the first
Speaker 1: time I took my minivan. Yes, motherfuckers, I got a
Speaker 1: mini van. You heard that right, Sure she does, but
Speaker 1: it's kidded out. There's lights in the bottom. Risbe spin it.
Speaker 1: The first time I took my vidiman into a parking
Speaker 1: structure in New York City, I was driving out. It
Speaker 1: was giving John Wick. I was just like, I was
Speaker 1: justa it almost driving.
Speaker 2: Guys were taming me.
Speaker 1: I was was purposely driving the side of my minivan
Speaker 1: into the walls, into the It was.
Speaker 2: Like, I cat no, I didn't know how to get
Speaker 2: out of it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you do, I soup like. It was
Speaker 1: like fight or flight. So I just kept going and
Speaker 1: fucking it up even more.
Speaker 2: And these guys were running behind me.
Speaker 3: Miss no, miss I'm like, I got it.
Speaker 1: It was given gone in sixty seconds, but it took
Speaker 1: like a minute thirty. It was fast and furious, but
Speaker 1: slowly painful.
Speaker 3: No listen driving a mini van in those narrow parking lots.
Speaker 1: When I got home, yes, he is like, what happened?
Speaker 1: What happened? And I was like, Frank Red tomatoes. Okay,
Speaker 1: you have to get a bumped out? What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Why are you saying things like I'm your bro that
Speaker 1: goes to Jeffy Loop with you with the coupon for fun?
Speaker 1: What do you even mean?
Speaker 2: Bumping out means you took the dents off the side.
Speaker 1: Bumping out mean something different than me, bitch.
Speaker 3: You buff out or bump out a dent and then
Speaker 3: out of your car.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of that. There was a lot
Speaker 2: of that. Yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 3: Listen, it's like trying to get like an overgrown watermelon, right,
Speaker 3: like that's driving a caravan.
Speaker 2: It's like it's just like you can't. You can't round
Speaker 2: those quarters down there.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It was giving, like, oh my god, it was giving
Speaker 1: dumb and dumber, like you have biggest vehicle they have.
Speaker 1: That was like a dog. That's what driving a minivan
Speaker 1: in New York City is like, Dan, here's the minivan shame.
Speaker 1: Some parking lots don't even take minivans. What they don't
Speaker 1: take them? And the ones that do charge you extra.
Speaker 1: I said, it's the same spot. What's the extra for?
Speaker 3: Save your life though, you know, save your life or
Speaker 3: so what I'm saying, Wow, I didn't know there was
Speaker 3: that much drama surrounding a minivan. I just thought there
Speaker 3: was like screens in the consoles and everybody was happy.
Speaker 3: Turns out, turns out not the case. Not the motherfucking case.
Speaker 2: How fast can you get in that thing?
Speaker 1: How fast can I get in it? Or get up?
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: How fast does it go?
Speaker 1: Does it go?
Speaker 2: Oh? Really?
Speaker 1: Stop? Why are you talking to me like I'm Danica
Speaker 1: patrick By.
Speaker 2: Off the line?
Speaker 1: It goes fast enough to go to daycare and get
Speaker 1: me home for my meetings. Okay, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the guideiap is. Okay, but anyway, you
Speaker 1: know what, just shout out to everybody. If you're driving
Speaker 1: the car that isn't your dream car, guess what the
Speaker 1: dream is just to have a vehicle, So you are
Speaker 1: doing it absolutely And if you can't come out the
Speaker 1: parking lot without hitting your car, I'm I'm fine with Look,
Speaker 1: I'll applaud to you guys. You tried your best and
Speaker 1: I'm here for that. That's all the end.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, But what was driving like in the
Speaker 3: seventies and eighties in New York? The big ass boats
Speaker 3: just like swerving this way, and I can't imagine. I
Speaker 3: cannot even imagine.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine either. But you know what I can't
Speaker 1: imagine a beautiful conversation with our guest for this episode.
Speaker 1: It's so exciting, bitch. You know, I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: a segue. Aw you, guys, we have we have a
Speaker 1: very special guest. He's near and dear to us. He
Speaker 1: has been with the show since the beginning twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: He is our DJ Don Will, and he's here with
Speaker 1: us today to sit down and wrap about it. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to talk to him. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: very exciting. Hold on to your airhorns, bitches. It's done Will.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, isn't done Will. They said it would never happen.
Speaker 3: They said it would never happen, but we defied the Oh.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, so excited because, like, you know, you
Speaker 1: answer questions that the audience ask, and that's cool. But
Speaker 1: now we can actually sit down and wrap with you
Speaker 1: and figure out what's going on in your life. And
Speaker 1: I feel like every time we have like a little keykey,
Speaker 1: I'm like, we gotta talk about that on the show.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on winning a Webby Award.
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, thank you, And I'm in therapy right now.
Speaker 3: How to accept compliments so I appreciate it from both
Speaker 3: of you guys.
Speaker 1: That was one of my New Year's resolutions. Just say
Speaker 1: thank you when someone's like said something nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I backslided a little bit, like every now and then
Speaker 3: I'll get when I'm like really familiar and comfortable with people,
Speaker 3: I'll get into that, like, but well, it's not that
Speaker 3: big of it, and then I'm like, my homegirl the
Speaker 3: other night was like, no, it's a fucking big deal, man,
Speaker 3: Just accept the thanks and the compliments.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I'm gracious.
Speaker 1: I love it. What was the Webby Award for?
Speaker 3: I won the Webby Award for Best General Music Podcast.
Speaker 3: Wow damn yeah, so it was the other contestants in
Speaker 3: the category. Other nominees rather were John Legends, Amazon Podcast
Speaker 3: and Ironic Twist. Me and John Legend both went. But
Speaker 3: I'll get to that in a minute. There was another
Speaker 3: one called She Rose Mixtape, which was another so No's
Speaker 3: based show. It's a really great program that like, honestly,
Speaker 3: if I wouldn't have won, I would have wanted them
Speaker 3: to win.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, look at you on Don.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, and putting my show together. Like I
Speaker 3: looked at a couple of shows. It's kind of like
Speaker 3: reference points and like things to model it after. And
Speaker 3: that was absolutely one of the ones that I, like,
Speaker 3: I looked at and I kind of studied in a way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I got to give them their credit, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So the way that the awards set up, you have
Speaker 3: the Webby Award, and then you have the People's Choice Award.
Speaker 3: The People's Choice gets the most votes, and the Webby
Speaker 3: Award is selected by the judges. John Legend got the
Speaker 3: most votes because he's fucking John Legend, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, of course, but I got selected by the judges.
Speaker 2: That's the subthing.
Speaker 3: Yes, listen, John Legend might have won the popular vote, but.
Speaker 2: You got the electoral college. Ah, that's right.
Speaker 1: When I found out you one, I texted Don, I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, we're just like built to be
Speaker 1: like winning doesn't matter, cause we're gonna do what we do.
Speaker 1: And like, when you do something you love, you have
Speaker 1: to definitely sit and accept a certain not a certain amount,
Speaker 1: but a good dollar of rejection, right, Yeah, like more
Speaker 1: rejection in the entertainment industry than you, I think anywhere else,
Speaker 1: because anywhere else, if you keep applying, like I feel
Speaker 1: like you eventually get it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's very cut and dry, right, but like this is
Speaker 1: like you could still be better than the next person,
Speaker 1: but they just have like a certain end with someone else. Right,
Speaker 1: So it's like crazy the amount of rejection you just
Speaker 1: have to sit in, right, And when you finally win something,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, what that on? It feels like it
Speaker 1: kind of feels good.
Speaker 2: I want to win more.
Speaker 3: I woke up to it. I looked at my phone
Speaker 3: first thing, and I just put the fund down like that.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that, and I went back to sleep
Speaker 3: straight up. And then I woke up again and looked
Speaker 3: at my email and I read it and I just
Speaker 3: didn't understand the words like that you won. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: just it didn't register. I've been having this conversation a
Speaker 3: lot lately. But like the thing about failure as an
Speaker 3: artist is that a lot of times success is just
Speaker 3: continuing to do the thing despite failure. So you might
Speaker 3: keep failing, but that's literally success because you haven't stopped.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, That's kind of been my
Speaker 3: engine for a lot of years. Is that not to
Speaker 3: be cliche, but I think about you, I don't know
Speaker 3: how many times, like if you fall seven times, you
Speaker 3: get up eight or whatever, Like it's literally just that
Speaker 3: on the flip to invertit even further. Sometimes success is
Speaker 3: the failure because that can be like the moment where
Speaker 3: you're just like, what do I do now? So you
Speaker 3: got to kind of figure things out in a different way.
Speaker 1: There's that thing where it's just like how the fuck
Speaker 1: am I gonna taught myself? When my special came out?
Speaker 1: Your first hour as a comedian, you're just like, I
Speaker 1: guess it's over.
Speaker 2: No more material, Like I.
Speaker 1: Fucking did it, you know what I mean? I'm low
Speaker 1: key impressed by slash annoyed with comedians who like produce
Speaker 1: a new hour every year, and I'm like, you haven't
Speaker 1: been through enough shit to fucking talk about it for
Speaker 1: an hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask about that, like how how coming
Speaker 3: up with the hour and then burning through it like
Speaker 3: you're just kind of like you sit after a while,
Speaker 3: it's like what do I do now? Yeah? Kind of yeah, well,
Speaker 3: those people that come up with a new hour every
Speaker 3: year have what's known as writers, and that's how they
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: Man. And you can tell and you can tell.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 1: Also, one thing I didn't realize about Don, which I
Speaker 1: really appreciate, is that he does not mind leaving a
Speaker 1: party early. Listen, you know what I mean, because you've
Speaker 1: been to my parties and I feel like you leave
Speaker 1: at a decent time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like two or three waves of leaving. There's
Speaker 3: the first wave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, which are usually like the early people, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: them friends that come like they're the first ones that come,
Speaker 1: and then the last ones to leave. You're just like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: The people that come first in our last leave are
Speaker 3: generally people who have a set of keys to your house.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like that's that set of.
Speaker 1: Friends, oh my god, who are single.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Other than that, if they come first and leave last,
Speaker 3: it's just like, so what's going on home at home
Speaker 3: that you're running from?
Speaker 2: Like what's really?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: In general, I'm a very punctual person. It's true.
Speaker 1: That's why we fuck with you these com shows. How
Speaker 1: it's starting on time from what it says on the ticket.
Speaker 1: To me, it's like five ten minutes after the time starts,
Speaker 1: everyone getting you sees, what are your drinks, Let's go.
Speaker 1: There's nothing better than being on time and then just
Speaker 1: hanging out afterwards. Yum.
Speaker 3: I would say it's as much based in anxiety as
Speaker 3: his professionalism. You know, when you fresh out of college
Speaker 3: interviewing for jobs, they always tell you to be there
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes early. If I had a job interview on Tuesday,
Speaker 3: I would drive to the place on Monday to figure
Speaker 3: out the route, like I was literally that person. Wow,
Speaker 3: I've always been that person. So now that it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, my own schedule showing up for like adulting
Speaker 3: or showing up to city winery or something in general,
Speaker 3: that anxiety has never left, and that level of professionalism
Speaker 3: has never left.
Speaker 2: It's just all baked in. So now it's like.
Speaker 3: Instead of like cutting it coast to get there with
Speaker 3: just fifteen minutes, I might come.
Speaker 2: An hour early and then go to a coffee shop.
Speaker 3: Yes, if I am running a little behind, I'm like
Speaker 3: right there.
Speaker 1: I had an acting teacher once tell me, if you
Speaker 1: show up early, you show up on time. If you
Speaker 1: show up on time, you're late. If you're late, you're fucked,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing better for me than showing up on time.
Speaker 1: And I get like anxiety as well. But like, do
Speaker 1: y'all remember showing up to work hungover?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, sure absolutely.
Speaker 3: There used to be these really great uh I don't
Speaker 3: think they make them anymore, but for a moment, because
Speaker 3: when people used to smoke in bars, right, they had
Speaker 3: these awesome little things that you could throw in your dryer.
Speaker 3: You put your close in the dryer. It was like
Speaker 3: a dryer sheet and it would just take the smell
Speaker 3: of smoke.
Speaker 2: Off of your clothes.
Speaker 1: Oh shit.
Speaker 2: It was a modern fix for modern times, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I was like, of course hungover, yes, and all
Speaker 3: the things that you needed right, needed oil, right, you
Speaker 3: needed you need.
Speaker 2: To get it.
Speaker 3: Greasy, needed something greasy eat the sop up that ship, yes.
Speaker 2: You know. And then you of course needed water.
Speaker 3: You need a gatorade pedia lighte people are always like
Speaker 3: p light knocks that ship right out.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course hungover. Some of my best work.
Speaker 3: One of my jobs was always I was a substitute teacher.
Speaker 3: I was like, I was just like teaching in the
Speaker 3: school God in New York City, No. This was in
Speaker 3: Cincinnati and Ohio, and I talked in Maryland too.
Speaker 2: In Merland. Yeah, in Maryland.
Speaker 3: Like you know, most times when you come in hung
Speaker 3: over with the teacher, you're the substitute too. You just
Speaker 3: wheel the TV and like we're watching Jurassic Park, and
Speaker 3: I said, yo, oh my god. Like I wouldn't do
Speaker 3: it a lot, because the thing is, teachers leave lesson
Speaker 3: plans and you have to, like, if you don't get
Speaker 3: through the lesson plans for them, it messes them up.
Speaker 3: So you kind of have to adhere to that. But
Speaker 3: I remember one time I had a class of like
Speaker 3: I want to say it was second graders. Sure, they
Speaker 3: don't have the ability to just busy themselves. You kind
Speaker 3: of got to guide them and steer them more. I
Speaker 3: was so hungover. I was so hungover. I tried the
Speaker 3: TV trick. It didn't work because the kids just kept
Speaker 3: coming up to the desk and I was I remember
Speaker 3: looking at one little kids like I was kind of
Speaker 3: sitting at the desk and I was thinking, like, please
Speaker 3: don't vomit on this child, Please don't vomb.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: It was that that mid twenties. We were out drinking
Speaker 3: Yager bombs until four in the morning. I didn't go
Speaker 3: to sleep kind of hangover.
Speaker 1: I never could do a Yager bomb that. I was like,
Speaker 1: am I an old German man hunting in the middle
Speaker 1: of winter? Why am I? It's so medicinal. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: are we trying to get rid of the virus? It
Speaker 1: just it just tastes like a potion.
Speaker 3: Here's the question about shot. Are there any delicious shots?
Speaker 3: Are there any good shots yet?
Speaker 2: Like tasty?
Speaker 1: You know what, A lemon drop ain't bad.
Speaker 2: Lemon drop ain't bad.
Speaker 1: It definitely is giving type two diabetes. It's very sweet.
Speaker 2: Sex on the beach, right, people seem to like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I never do them. I'm more like
Speaker 3: a mess call or tequila guy. Then you gotta make
Speaker 3: the face. It's fun to make the face.
Speaker 1: What's the face?
Speaker 3: Like that hurts you? I mean, you can't do that
Speaker 3: face after a sex on the beach.
Speaker 1: I can't do shots anymore. It's not cute. Have you
Speaker 1: been to like a senior of frogs in Cancu, Mexico.
Speaker 1: The minute you walk through the door, somebody's just like
Speaker 1: putting a tube of like Vodkagello down your throat. You're like,
Speaker 1: nobody asked for it, but thank you.
Speaker 3: I feel like getting drunk as a forty year old adult,
Speaker 3: it like as an adult in your forties is a
Speaker 3: different thing. Like I'll have two glasses of rose, shout
Speaker 3: out to Michelle. I was not a rose person before
Speaker 3: the house party, but I'll have two glasses of wine
Speaker 3: or rose are just a beer, and literally the next
Speaker 3: day I won't be wrecked, but I'll be noticeably sluggish.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we're so old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what that means, guys, what you got
Speaker 3: to move on to other stuff.
Speaker 2: Like I was in Canada. I did shrooms. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I felt like a little gnome.
Speaker 3: I was going crazy on shrooms and you know what,
Speaker 3: there's no hangover.
Speaker 2: It felt great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw some old relatives and everything like that.
Speaker 3: It was fantastic. You know, you saw them in person,
Speaker 3: or the shrooms that came to you as hallucinations from
Speaker 3: the as you know, as like you know, yes, as hallucinations.
Speaker 2: But it was all good, you know, it was all good.
Speaker 2: I was like in nature. It was great.
Speaker 3: You feel the oneness of everything, and you know what,
Speaker 3: when it's done, is done, and it's not like there's
Speaker 3: no hangover, which I really like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like a residual hangover. I don't like
Speaker 1: that at all. Like go away, yeah, work yourself out
Speaker 1: of my system. You know, I was thinking, I think
Speaker 1: why we work as a trio is because we're pretty
Speaker 1: much on this page right, Like if we have a
Speaker 1: problem or an issue, we could talk about it and
Speaker 1: move on from it, which is very nice. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: also like, I don't think i've seen y'all sloppy at all.
Speaker 2: Yes, we also usually do the same.
Speaker 3: Drugs, so that's important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Michelle really wants to see me sloppy.
Speaker 1: I don't. I thought I did. I thought I did.
Speaker 1: Now I don't, because seeing someone sloppy in your forties
Speaker 1: now in your fifties just hits different way different. It
Speaker 1: just hits in like a sad way where I'm just
Speaker 1: like it is Telerpara gonna write a movie about this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just like my hug
Speaker 1: can't save you type shit. Yeah, you know, like even
Speaker 1: in your late thirties early forties, it's just like, uh, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so busy working my job. I forgot to have
Speaker 1: lunch and I'm getting tipsy. But like when people are
Speaker 1: just like slumped over, like mean and shit and don't
Speaker 1: remember where they live and shit. It's like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember the last time I was even
Speaker 3: sloppy in general, and it had to be like a
Speaker 3: decade ago.
Speaker 2: I guess it.
Speaker 3: Definitely wasn't anytime in recent memory, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I think that too much for me to drink.
Speaker 3: I'm always hyper aware of my surroundings and myself. Somebody
Speaker 3: was talking about doing MDMA or some shit and like
Speaker 3: how it opens you up and frees you, it makes
Speaker 3: you feel a little bit loose. I'm scared of that
Speaker 3: because I think I'll get sloppy and too loose. So
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want to do any drugs that'll
Speaker 3: make me loose.
Speaker 2: You won't.
Speaker 1: You know why, because my manager came to Amsterdam like
Speaker 1: years ago, years ago. She's very reserved, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: we're doing this and we did it, and you don't me.
Speaker 1: Everything's heightened. So I'm just like, I love you, I
Speaker 1: love you. You're gonna make it. We're gonna be great, right,
Speaker 1: just loving on everybody, And she literally turns to me
Speaker 1: and she goes you look pretty today.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, oh wow, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just the elevation for certain people.
Speaker 2: Just it's right. So I've been micro dos and shrooms
Speaker 2: for a couple months now.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't do them every day. I do them
Speaker 2: like every three days.
Speaker 1: Yum.
Speaker 3: Jordan knows the way, and honestly, like every time I
Speaker 3: do it. China, my partner, She'll like, I don't tell
Speaker 3: her what I'm doing. I'll just like do it, and
Speaker 3: then I'll just be like, hey, you know sometimes I
Speaker 3: like look around the apartment and the plants are just
Speaker 3: like radiant. She's just like he's on mushrooms. And then
Speaker 3: we get into like these wonderful conversations about life and
Speaker 3: love and work and stuff.
Speaker 2: And then the next day I wake up and I'm
Speaker 2: just like, ah, eat my coffee. I can't talk to
Speaker 2: you right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I know now that, like I've tried everything.
Speaker 3: I've tried coffee and jitters and anxiety, and that's not
Speaker 3: a great way to get through life.
Speaker 2: So like microdosing, I'm all for.
Speaker 3: Especially you take that Eddie when you need to put
Speaker 3: the kids to bed, Eddie before Betty yeah, Eddie before
Speaker 3: Betty Steady. That is so helpful because my son will
Speaker 3: be like.
Speaker 2: Can I read a Noble book please? Like sure, what's
Speaker 2: doctor sus Scott Force? Now?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I turn into like a negotiator, and
Speaker 1: not like a cute one, like a Sam Jackson negotiator.
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, it's like I am not myself when
Speaker 1: my kids have had a snickers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your kids are so well behaved though, they're so great.
Speaker 3: They were over at my office time and that sounds crazy,
Speaker 3: but they were.
Speaker 1: They had a pitch.
Speaker 2: It was a hot pitch.
Speaker 3: They're an official kid business with the little kiddie briefcases.
Speaker 2: Yes, Otis had a folio.
Speaker 3: Otis would have a folio that makes it cars for kids, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the one and hit cards for kids. Pitch was pretty
Speaker 3: good until I realized I'd be giving my car so.
Speaker 2: But no, they were so cute running around.
Speaker 3: I mean they're like really mild manner, like hat soft
Speaker 3: to you, Michelle, and I think you're doing it right.
Speaker 2: I think you're doing it right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. I'm trying. It'll change they get older.
Speaker 1: Things happened, but while I'm still here, we got manners.
Speaker 2: In this economy with them, curl.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be polite. We gotta say please and thank
Speaker 1: you and give turns.
Speaker 3: And truly, your daughter's older, right, yeah, she's thirteen.
Speaker 2: What did she think of you getting the webby?
Speaker 3: She is very internal. She won't outward and be like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, dad, I'm so proud. She'll like make
Speaker 3: a weird joke. Oh, like she'll like, I can't wait
Speaker 3: to come up to New York and hang out with
Speaker 3: you and steal your webby from you, or something like that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I guess it's never She's
Speaker 3: not like an outwardly emotional person, which I.
Speaker 2: Just wanted some time to like, I just want to
Speaker 2: hug and be your dad. I love you so much.
Speaker 2: She's just kind of like dad, No, oh no, dad, Yeah.
Speaker 1: My daughter's like that at four. Want to give her
Speaker 1: like a lot of hugs, and she's like, I will
Speaker 1: see from what.
Speaker 2: I can what I can gage. She's like a very
Speaker 2: sensitive person.
Speaker 3: So like for her, any sort of that armor is
Speaker 3: like a big open emotional thing. I think that especially
Speaker 3: as they get older and as the world kind of
Speaker 3: starts to corrode it.
Speaker 2: Whatever that thing is you try to instill at them.
Speaker 3: All you can do is like set them up for
Speaker 3: success in that way where you like arm them with
Speaker 3: what you just said, Like you know, we're gonna say please,
Speaker 3: we're gonna be patient with our turn.
Speaker 2: We're gonna not.
Speaker 3: Not like you know what I'm saying, not be offensive
Speaker 3: unless somebody puts you in that position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's absolutely just dealing with the world in ways
Speaker 3: that we can't save them from. They have to like
Speaker 3: have their interactions and come home with it and then
Speaker 3: just kind of figure out how to parse it.
Speaker 2: But yes, the thing that's dope is that we still talk.
Speaker 3: She communicates with me about like school, and about her friends,
Speaker 3: and about things that she may or may not like.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's the gym.
Speaker 3: Like she might not share with me what her favorite
Speaker 3: musical act is, or she might be like, I don't
Speaker 3: want to show you my drawings anymore, Dad, but she
Speaker 3: will absolutely tell me if something's going bad at school, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's a bigger deal. Well, she's
Speaker 3: got her own private life, but she lets you in
Speaker 3: for her personal life. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Oh that's so great.
Speaker 3: I give her a space to have her own private
Speaker 3: life as well, Like you know what I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 3: definitely I mean, I'm going to creep my head in
Speaker 3: and see it, like what's going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, like I remember, I always
Speaker 3: think about myself at thirteen and myself as like a
Speaker 3: preteen or a teen was like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Who were you?
Speaker 3: I was popular, a little popularteen thirteen, No, middle school,
Speaker 3: Donald was awkward. I had just came from an all
Speaker 3: white Catholic school, oh no, and been put into an
Speaker 3: all black public school. So there was this level of
Speaker 3: culture shock and trying to figure out how to relate
Speaker 3: to how to relate to black people and myself, And
Speaker 3: the way that I found to do it was through
Speaker 3: fashion and music, mostly music, but fashion was like, you know,
Speaker 3: in the black community, you got some cool shoes.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh I see you, I see you out there.
Speaker 3: What are those Jordan's So like That's why shoes are
Speaker 3: such a big deal to me, because they was like
Speaker 3: they were the first way I could communicate and then
Speaker 3: say you guys like, oh man, I like your shoes.
Speaker 3: I'm like, have you heard the new Trip called Quest album?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I'm like Okay, we're friends now. So it
Speaker 3: was kind of like finding ways to communicate with people
Speaker 3: non verbally because I wasn't shy.
Speaker 2: I was just guarded, you know.
Speaker 3: I found that people when I would show them my
Speaker 3: collection of spores and moles, they didn't have the same respect. Okay,
Speaker 3: your bio tells me that you went then in college
Speaker 3: from you Cincinnati, great school, great program, all the way
Speaker 3: to North Carolina A and T great school, great program.
Speaker 1: I love him.
Speaker 3: What was that like, because I know you Cincinnati, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a white school. Yeah, and then you went to
Speaker 3: an HPCU. That was culture shock in a different way.
Speaker 3: At that point, I was very much immersed in like culture,
Speaker 3: and I was around my people, was feeling good.
Speaker 2: It was lovely, but.
Speaker 3: It was also like this, yeah, like I would come
Speaker 3: in the walls of school and it's black and it's
Speaker 3: majority black high school, and like know with children.
Speaker 2: Now we go outside and it's just white white and
Speaker 2: it's white, white white.
Speaker 3: Then I went to North Carolina and tea and it
Speaker 3: was literally like I remember after a week or two
Speaker 3: there being like I haven't seen a white person.
Speaker 2: How are they? How are the whites doing you?
Speaker 1: Guys? I don't even understand it was.
Speaker 2: It was. I would say I was one of the
Speaker 2: most formative experiences in my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, hands down, one of the things that you know,
Speaker 3: I'm one of those people that like, I'm like, college
Speaker 3: is an expense. Is an expense. Sometimes you need it,
Speaker 3: sometimes you don't. If my daughter doesn't want to go
Speaker 3: to college, it's a conversation. I'm not tripping, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. Because college was not for me.
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that I was dyslexic or you know,
Speaker 1: that I had like an attention deficit, Like there were
Speaker 1: so many things that could have been done differently. But
Speaker 1: thank God for the arts because I really do feel
Speaker 1: like it saved me. But again, I was too shy
Speaker 1: to even take an acting class in college, so I
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, kind of like this late bloomer,
Speaker 1: but my body had already bloomed. So I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what what is this I.
Speaker 2: Was supposed to do?
Speaker 3: It's absolutely not for everybody, and the people that it's
Speaker 3: not for who end up there anyway, Like, there were
Speaker 3: so many people in our generation that were promised jobs
Speaker 3: and all these things upon having a degree and you
Speaker 3: leave college and you're like trying to get a job
Speaker 3: at a watch kiosk in the mall or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with a bachelor's.
Speaker 1: Degree, No shame.
Speaker 2: Oh tiktoks, no shame for a good spot. Rvis Yea.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this though, So, like, I just
Speaker 3: was wondering at what point music came in.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're a prolific musician.
Speaker 3: I even heard your music on a podcast called slow
Speaker 3: Burn about Biggie and Tupac, and I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: don is everywhere.
Speaker 2: So I just need to know that inflection point. What
Speaker 2: was that for you? That was college?
Speaker 3: That was one of the reasons why college is one
Speaker 3: of the most formative experiences in my life is because
Speaker 3: it was where I found other people who were as
Speaker 3: into the things that I was into, and.
Speaker 2: We were was that that Petri Dish.
Speaker 3: We were all confined to this space and we were like,
Speaker 3: we didn't have anything but each other, so we just
Speaker 3: start to make a music and hanging out. That was
Speaker 3: one hundred percent where I'd kind of made that decision
Speaker 3: to go into the arts and go into music.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So sports and Molts, Sports and Molts and Petridish yeah,
Speaker 3: absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, this is very exciting because usually
Speaker 1: when Down's up the show, he is the DJ, he's
Speaker 1: doing air horns, he's also jumping in doing questions. But
Speaker 1: now we have you all to ourselves and we can
Speaker 1: ask you questions that the audience has sent in for us.
Speaker 1: So here we go.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, hot seat, trying to turn up.
Speaker 1: I'm single in my late forties, and I'm ready for
Speaker 1: my first threesome. That took a turn, but it always do.
Speaker 1: But how do you have any tips?
Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, first threesome.
Speaker 3: I have some tips, but no, go on, I mean, okay,
Speaker 3: I never so this will be interesting. I would say
Speaker 3: I've had a couple of failed threesomes. Oh that's a
Speaker 3: whole other thing. But I would say the first rule
Speaker 3: of having a threesome from a person that's had a
Speaker 3: failed threesome is be sober. If there is drug and
Speaker 3: alcohol involved, like one or two drinks, nothing sloppy. You
Speaker 3: don't want to be sloppy. Oh yeah, and the other
Speaker 3: one is, obviously, you know, consent. I don't think that
Speaker 3: needed to be said, but yeah, absolutely should be. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. The question was how to find the threesome.
Speaker 1: No, it was like I'm ready for it, but I
Speaker 1: guess I guess it is like how.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's there's an app for it. Feel get on feel.
Speaker 1: Usually I'm just like, don't prepare, just be out there
Speaker 1: and like be open. But I think for a threesome
Speaker 1: you should definitely prepare.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I don't think it should be anyone that you know.
Speaker 1: I know that sounds good, but don't get involved with anyone,
Speaker 1: you know. I think when you do meet the person,
Speaker 1: they're people. Yes, when you do meet the people, like
Speaker 1: definitely talk about what you like and don't like, like
Speaker 1: definitely a safety word and shit right. I also think
Speaker 1: like be prepared to like, like one person more.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're gonna get more ice cream.
Speaker 1: Oh god, Jordan, Jesus.
Speaker 2: There's a delegation of work that happens.
Speaker 1: He's so oh he's such a creepy dad.
Speaker 2: My god.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine somebody saying that in the middle of
Speaker 3: a threesome, I'm gonna give you more ice cream?
Speaker 2: Ugh?
Speaker 1: No, in group sex and ice cream, copper coats, sprinkles. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: whoever wrote this question, I just want to let you know,
Speaker 1: good for you for exploring your sexuality. In your forties.
Speaker 1: I think, like, I don't know, I'm assuming that you've
Speaker 1: been having sex for a while, but it's sort of
Speaker 1: like going to college in your forties compared to your twenties,
Speaker 1: Like you're just like more mature. You can handle things
Speaker 1: better and you can have more fun. So definitely make
Speaker 1: it about you. If you're co producing this threesome, you'd
Speaker 1: be the Beyonce at this Coachella.
Speaker 3: Okay, bitch, co producing the threesome is a wild sentence
Speaker 3: and I love it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Next question, I have gained a lot of weight with
Speaker 1: age and can't find the time to exercise. Do you
Speaker 1: have any hacks or tips for a working mom who's
Speaker 1: ready for a healthier lifestyle.
Speaker 2: I would say, cut sugar oo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like everywhere, in as.
Speaker 3: Many places as you can cut it or monitor it
Speaker 3: very closely. When you take sugar out of your diet everywhere, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the pounds start to melt. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Sugar and portion controler the two things, at least in
Speaker 3: my opinion, John, we have lost the audience. Okay, you
Speaker 3: can switch to certain things, right, like the darker chocolate. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that seems to be really good, right, yeah, the deep
Speaker 3: cacao cow. It's hard to find the time.
Speaker 1: But like for me, I do like a little zoom
Speaker 1: like a little half hour zoom workout, and then like
Speaker 1: I'll do like one in person workout where like I
Speaker 1: wear my new exercise outfit. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I always say buying like a new thing to go
Speaker 1: do a thing that you dread put some pep in
Speaker 1: your step.
Speaker 2: True, that's very true.
Speaker 1: It just gets harder the older you get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you could like fold in and like make
Speaker 3: an activity that you already do a little bit more athletic. Yes,
Speaker 3: if you have to drop your kids off somewhere, just
Speaker 3: take an extra lap around the building before you get
Speaker 3: back in your car.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Ooh, the YMCA has killer zoomba classes. You can put
Speaker 1: on your knee on shorts, get a little wedgie with everybody,
Speaker 1: get sweaty, come.
Speaker 2: On and get some sleep.
Speaker 3: Yes, they say, like, actually eight hours of sleep is
Speaker 3: really important to losing weight because the body holds onto
Speaker 3: our fat cells longer, because our body is like we're like,
Speaker 3: hey man, we think we're stressed if we stay up late.
Speaker 3: So the body holds onto fat longer. So they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: you need this because you're in danger. So if you
Speaker 3: go to bed and get rid of them.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 1: I am convinced that's why I gained so much weight
Speaker 1: performing at colleges because I always had the first flight out,
Speaker 1: so like never slept. You can't sleep with a five
Speaker 1: am flight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1: It's more like five am.
Speaker 2: Fright, Okay, next kiss Jael.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, my best friend finally moved into her
Speaker 3: own apartment post breakup, but she lost all her plants
Speaker 3: in the move. So as a housewarming gift, I want
Speaker 3: to help her out, but I have zero plant skills knowledge.
Speaker 3: Do you have any suggestions on what house plants to
Speaker 3: get her?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I have tons of suggestions.
Speaker 1: Actually, oh yeah, okay, you go.
Speaker 3: So it depends on how well how much light the
Speaker 3: apartment gets, how much light the space gets. But a
Speaker 3: good all around plant is a pathos. You've seen pathos everywhere.
Speaker 3: They're the plants that are just kind of like the
Speaker 3: standard leafy vine pass. Good snake plant is good snakes
Speaker 3: are the ones that grow up.
Speaker 1: Like oh, they're called mother in law tongues too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, mother in law tongue triggering that those are good
Speaker 3: for low light, and they also grow kind of slow
Speaker 3: and they're kind of durable. And it's one more.
Speaker 2: Succulens are good. Yeah, Suclelents are good.
Speaker 3: Succulents are hard for people to believe it or not
Speaker 3: because people oh water them because they don't need a
Speaker 3: lot of water and they need fast draining soil.
Speaker 1: Whatever you do, don't give your friend an orchid, because
Speaker 1: that's just fucked up. That's like giving me like a
Speaker 1: jigsaw puzzle. How fucking dare you?
Speaker 3: What's funny is as I'm answering this question, there's a
Speaker 3: very dead plant right behind me. Take this man's advice. Now,
Speaker 3: I've always thought of myself as an emotional succulent. I
Speaker 3: don't eat much spread my god.
Speaker 2: Can we start a band called the Emotional Succulents? Jordan?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm gonna open for you, and I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: called emotional osteoporosis. Tell everybody all my feelings about everything,
Speaker 1: all the time. This is the next question. Is it
Speaker 1: okay to smoke weed at the if there's a kid's
Speaker 1: party set up nearby?
Speaker 2: I mean, how old's the kid?
Speaker 1: If you in Brooklyn, It's like you don't have a choice.
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of smells in the city, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, a lot of smells. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like that exercise. It's like, close your eyes, what smells
Speaker 3: you here? Just or smell five smells if it's a
Speaker 3: big butt Buddha and it is what it is. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's a public park. If you can smoke,
Speaker 3: you can smoke. I mean, you're not smoking cigarettes, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And another thing too, is that you could probably walk
Speaker 3: a couple feet further away to just get down wind.
Speaker 2: Just be mindful, you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm don't make these kids think there's an actual skunk
Speaker 1: in the park.
Speaker 3: And what.
Speaker 2: About a vape? Right something like that?
Speaker 1: Vapes are just kind of creepy to me at this point.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, boy, if you don't just get a joint,
Speaker 1: because it looks like you're trying to get in touch
Speaker 1: with a matrix, I'm like, okay, okay, this is our
Speaker 1: last question, and it's a good question. I've had this
Speaker 1: urge to cheat on my partner. No, boy, I would
Speaker 1: never do it. Never in all caps, bitch, But no
Speaker 1: matter how much I tell myself, it would hurt us
Speaker 1: both the urge still lingers to him. How do I
Speaker 1: make it go away? Do I need to make it
Speaker 1: go away? I'm very confused. Please help, bitch. This is confusing.
Speaker 3: I think I think don you should answer if you
Speaker 3: want to. I was like, you go first, I'll say
Speaker 3: this and this this might be a dark.
Speaker 2: Urn, but I don't know it. Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: There are so many people that are like, I have
Speaker 3: the urge to kill myself, but I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 3: But I think about it all the time. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: urge doesn't really go anywhere. It's just like when you're meditating,
Speaker 3: and if you get into meditation, they teach you that
Speaker 3: thoughts aren't permanent. They pass through, like they can linger,
Speaker 3: they can visit, but they pass through. So the urge
Speaker 3: to cheat is as natural as the urge to watch porn,
Speaker 3: or the urge to like compliment, like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, if you have a partner and you
Speaker 3: can tell a partner, man, I was a really that
Speaker 3: chick was really hotter like, or your part of gonna
Speaker 3: tell you like that person's really hot. That's a healthy relationship.
Speaker 3: When you have to take those urges and hide them.
Speaker 3: That's when it becomes unhealthy. Yeah, the urge to cheat
Speaker 3: probably won't leave you, just don't act on the urge
Speaker 3: to cheat unless you're ready to take all the things
Speaker 3: that comes with cheating on a partner, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I think also, I think this is like
Speaker 1: a big couple's therapy thing, Like you should have a
Speaker 1: couple therapists and then also do a one on one
Speaker 1: with your couples therapists and tell them because you have
Speaker 1: to tell somebody and work it out, because maybe you
Speaker 1: want to talk to your partner in front of your therapist,
Speaker 1: and maybe both you guys want to cheat, and maybe
Speaker 1: you should just figure out an open relationship. Perhaps how
Speaker 1: do you know it's just you?
Speaker 2: Then you should find the person that wants to have
Speaker 2: a threesome.
Speaker 1: Okay, I see what you.
Speaker 3: But no, like you blew my mind a little bit
Speaker 3: when you said talk to your couples therapists about cheating
Speaker 3: in front of your partner.
Speaker 2: I've never thought about that's what happens a couple's therapy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I feel from this question that
Speaker 3: this person is it sounds like they feel ignored.
Speaker 2: And maybe that their partner doesn't see.
Speaker 3: Them, so if you do something unforgivable that they have
Speaker 3: to see, then they'll have to deal with you. So again,
Speaker 3: I agree, therapy is the way, but it's like, what's
Speaker 3: behind that?
Speaker 2: You know, why do you want to cheat?
Speaker 3: Because you are lacking in communication here, right, And the
Speaker 3: fear of being rejected is like all the more why
Speaker 3: you're hitting the pause button on this.
Speaker 1: The fear of being rejected from your partner or.
Speaker 3: The person that you want to cheat on with rejected
Speaker 3: from your partner by telling them how you feel, you
Speaker 3: fear that rejection from them, you know. And it's like
Speaker 3: if I told them, oh my god, all these things
Speaker 3: would change.
Speaker 1: But Jordan, that is something that you can't come back from.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's why I'm like.
Speaker 3: Oh, if you told them that sometimes you have feelings
Speaker 3: that you want to be with other people, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know about that because you haven't acted on them.
Speaker 3: It's kind of natural to want to be with other people.
Speaker 3: I mean, so much is thrown in your face and
Speaker 3: you're told that this is the only person you're ever
Speaker 3: going to be with, you know, Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 3: natural in life.
Speaker 2: People make lists things like that.
Speaker 1: But I think it's something that you can't come back
Speaker 1: from depending on whatever this relationship is, right, because when
Speaker 1: you put that out there, it's almost like you're planning
Speaker 1: the seed of doubt in your partner, right, because then
Speaker 1: if your partner is insecure, let's say, let's say not
Speaker 1: even like fully insecure, but is now it's like, are
Speaker 1: you looking at that person or and then that's like
Speaker 1: a whole other world of trouble for this person. So like,
Speaker 1: I do believe this person is reaching out saying I
Speaker 1: have an urge to cheat because they can't fully communicate
Speaker 1: with their partner.
Speaker 2: Sad.
Speaker 1: This doesn't even sound like a couple that can say
Speaker 1: that's an attractive person, you know, look at that girl's
Speaker 1: but look at that man's whatever, look at that person's whatever.
Speaker 1: Like I don't even hear that in this or maybe yes,
Speaker 1: or maybe they do have a really comfortable relationship and
Speaker 1: this person's just ready to take it to the next level,
Speaker 1: because it is quite impossible that we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: be with the same person for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 1: You know, marriage really was working out at the turn
Speaker 1: of the century when people didn't wash their hands and
Speaker 1: they died when they were twenty two. Want some shit
Speaker 1: and they lived thirty shit, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like absolutely, marriage is fucking crazy. We had all these
Speaker 1: vitamins and shit, we could live. We want all these vitamins, Suzanne,
Speaker 1: some is the shit. You just be alliant.
Speaker 2: They're about to turn us all to AI. We're gonna
Speaker 2: live forever in a minute. I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: I just think that using terms like cheat and things
Speaker 3: like that, you know, m it feels as though the
Speaker 3: person is like punishing themselves and so guilt ridden that Yes,
Speaker 3: a therapist, some interference and a third party is so needed.
Speaker 2: Anyway. That's just my two cents. I like that.
Speaker 1: Dom. This has been just fucking fantastic.
Speaker 2: It has.
Speaker 1: You know, we asked every one of our guests, what
Speaker 1: is the most adult thing that you want to do
Speaker 1: for yourself this year that you haven't had time to do?
Speaker 1: And you know it could be anything. You know, it
Speaker 1: could be anything. He's listened to all the answers, so
Speaker 1: this is gonna be.
Speaker 2: Could be hanglining.
Speaker 3: I've thought long and hard about this question all day
Speaker 3: because I know I was gonna get asked this question.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, And okay, and I think the thing
Speaker 3: that I want to do the most is remodel a kitchen.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that is literally the most adult thing because
Speaker 3: it's the room that I spend the most time in,
Speaker 3: hands down, and if it just had a few minor tweaks,
Speaker 3: it would make so much more sense for not only me,
Speaker 3: but the renters who come behind me, because I won't
Speaker 3: live here for ever. Yes, but that's the adult decision
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 2: Make for myself.
Speaker 1: I get it. Just be in the moment and do it.
Speaker 1: That's what I say. Be in the moment and do
Speaker 1: it because it's going to make you feel happy. And
Speaker 1: then the next kitchen you're like, oh I did this,
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna do this in this other kitchen, and
Speaker 1: the money will come. Just trust it will. Because you
Speaker 1: are fun, you are a friendly, you are smart, you
Speaker 1: are punctual, you are talented. I mean the money will come. Period.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean.
Speaker 1: It's a Father's day because I gave you your flowers.
Speaker 3: Don We love you man, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: I love you guys too. This is one of my
Speaker 3: favorite things to do.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, h don his family.
Speaker 1: I know, no, but really, like I really mean it.
Speaker 1: I want the best. I want the best for him
Speaker 1: and his family. He's so talented. What can't he do?
Speaker 1: A real renaissance man. He wants to up at the kitchen.
Speaker 1: He knows how to make a plant grow. He can
Speaker 1: communicate without saying anything through music. He's raising a beautiful
Speaker 1: young girl. His girlfriend is stop also very talented. China moses.
Speaker 1: You better follow her on Instagram and get your life man.
Speaker 1: And you know what's really fun is that we're on
Speaker 1: the same adulting journey where it feels like we're hitting
Speaker 1: our stride in the same way.
Speaker 2: Like who were.
Speaker 1: Drinking the same thing?
Speaker 2: That's right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like we need the same tea in the morning.
Speaker 1: No, it was very fun. He just DJ'ed one of
Speaker 1: my shows the other night and we all went out afterwards,
Speaker 1: and we all had the same amount to drink, sang
Speaker 1: the same songs, knew the same words. And this from
Speaker 1: different places all over the United States in some other countries.
Speaker 1: And it's just nice to like find your people.
Speaker 3: See Michelle, I thought I was special because I got
Speaker 3: done to hang out.
Speaker 2: After a show.
Speaker 3: So, uh, you've got to hang out after a show
Speaker 3: because he usually does like I'm out. I mean, he
Speaker 3: just like throws down gas balls and he's just like
Speaker 3: disappears a cloud of faithball.
Speaker 1: See this is what it's like being friends with a
Speaker 1: middle child. Everybody, instead of Jordan's saying Don loves us
Speaker 1: so much he hangs out with us, He's like.
Speaker 2: You gotta do it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was my thing that he did. And
Speaker 1: it's always a competition with him, yes, and not with me.
Speaker 3: I'm only incompetent with my parents had another kid and
Speaker 3: I wasn't the baby anymore.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yes, that's my everybody has to push.
Speaker 1: Oh my god for our next episode. Everybody, thank you
Speaker 1: for joining. Take care of yourself and your friends and
Speaker 1: have siblings that didn't feel seen.
Speaker 2: Bye bye bye. This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 1: Our senior producer is g Holley.
Speaker 2: Our associate producer is Alex Cheat.
Speaker 1: This episode was mixed by John Bradley.
Speaker 2: Our guest booker is Patrick Cottner.
Speaker 1: Additional production support from Hannah Kyle Crichton.
Speaker 2: Theme song and live show djaning is by Don will.
Speaker 1: Our live show producer is Marian Ways.
Speaker 2: Artwork by Jamie Bechtel.
Speaker 1: Photography by Heis vander Most.
Speaker 3: Executive produced by Karen kilgera Georgia Hardstar and Daniel Kramer.
Speaker 1: Follow the show on Instagram at Adulting the Pod.
Speaker 3: Email your questions to Adulting Questions at gmail dot com.
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