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Speaker 1: We got college football to talk about a lot at

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Speaker 1: the end as well. So Miami beats the forty nine

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speechless On that last throw, Colin, I just I

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Speaker 2: don't know. We talked about this last week when he

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Speaker 2: We just watched Tua. Who they are in that situation?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk. It wasn't one of the

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Speaker 1: twenty six to forty three hundred and thirty two yards.

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Speaker 1: Since Week eight, he's got ten touchdowns and no picks.

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Speaker 1: It's been massive controversy. He's in the best division in football,

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Speaker 2: I think you have to judge Caleb right now as

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Speaker 2: The team is in disarraye I mean they have some

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Speaker 1: I went and looked, I'm like Jesus, they're just giving

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Speaker 1: this guy the rock every play, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: love the run game, but you got to have two

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Speaker 1: studs Kyen Williams for the Rams, like Blake Korham. If

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Speaker 1: they don't trust him, whatever it is, they just don't

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Speaker 1: give him the ball much. I mean, Kyen Williams twenty

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Speaker 1: five carries is what he does, and he's a smaller back.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Jamiir Gibbs. He's more the lightning right

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Speaker 1: He's he is kind of the home run hitter. I

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Speaker 1: look at this and I think if they got to

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Speaker 1: the NFC Championship, you got two more weeks, then you

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Speaker 1: got two playoff games. Boy, he better not get hurt

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Speaker 1: because he's gonna have to carry the ball because with

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Speaker 1: this defense. Let's be honest, John, you don't want you

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Speaker 1: don't want golf throwing forty times. You want to close

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Speaker 1: these games that you don't want your defense on the field.

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Speaker 1: You want to keep that defense that injury really Lions

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Speaker 1: defense on the field. Gibbs carrying it twenty times in

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Speaker 1: the first half. My first takeaway is how sustainable is that.

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Speaker 2: I think getting the home field advantage for them is

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Speaker 2: bigger than any team in the league, including the Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: who feel, you know, like more likely they're going to

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Speaker 2: get it now. They are desperate need of some guys

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Speaker 2: coming back on defense, because this is not a seven

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Speaker 2: game series. And if your offense has an off half

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Speaker 2: against the Packers, against the Eagles, against one of these

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Speaker 2: good teams, against the Vikings in a playoff game, you

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Speaker 2: would be in trouble because those teams can score. So like,

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Speaker 2: I have a hard time watching that Lion's defense, and

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Speaker 2: who knows. I mean, they keep showing the ir list

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Speaker 2: every single week, nineteen guys you know on injury reserve.

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Speaker 2: Their offense is pretty pretty freaking good though, even without Montgomery.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Laporte is a stud, Jamison Williams just one

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Speaker 2: of the faster guys in the league. Obviously, Saint Brown

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Speaker 2: is just an incredible over the middle, and they have

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Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator who's just a lita's job. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the cohesion they have. But I don't know if they

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Speaker 2: can win the NFC with all these injuries. I just

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Speaker 2: think it's really really we saw it in college football.

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Speaker 2: If you get into a cold weather situation, if they

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Speaker 2: they could easily be the five seed. I mean, we'll

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Speaker 2: see how these next fifteen to twenty days play out,

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Speaker 2: But you got to go outdoor. It's not as high

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Speaker 2: as scoring. You gotta play defense. We know they can

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Speaker 2: run the ball, but you gotta be able to play defense,

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Speaker 2: and they would be able to play defense if everyone

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Speaker 2: was healthy. But it's just not And I it would

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Speaker 2: be pretty sad because of how great of a season

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Speaker 2: they had. But it's an all time like, it's pretty

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Speaker 2: remarkable that their record is their record, given the the

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Speaker 2: injuries didn't start last week. I mean they've been going

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Speaker 2: for a month plus and even back Dayden Hutchinson a

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Speaker 2: long time ago. So it's I give Dan Campbell a

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Speaker 2: lot of credit because a lot of teams would have

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Speaker 2: just cracked a little bit and they just found a way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they came out today and listen, obviously the

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Speaker 2: bear stink. They came out today ready to kick ass

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Speaker 2: and take names.

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Speaker 1: beats Philadelphia thirty six thirty three. There's an asterisk because

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts had a concussion. Kenny Pickett came in. Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett was okay. Actually his first pass was a home

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Speaker 1: run down to aj Brown. Smart gett evenw where to

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Speaker 1: go with the ball. But so this is the second

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Speaker 1: year in a row where a tire fire of a franchise.

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Speaker 1: Last year it was Houston, this year it's Washington, laughingstock

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Speaker 1: for a decade plus. You bring in a new coach,

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Speaker 1: a sharp offensive coordinator, a very good rookie quarterback who's

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Speaker 1: taken second and you're going to make the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, this is why the NFL is king. And

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Speaker 1: if you watch Jaden Daniels who ended up with five

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes against the number one defense Philadelphia, there was

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Speaker 1: that game winning drive and there was some turnovers early,

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Speaker 1: it was pretty choppy, but if you watch that game

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Speaker 1: winning drive, you're like, yeah, that's what a franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: looks like.

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Speaker 2: And I just go back to this.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the things. I mean, ask this kid

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Speaker 1: to throw the ball thirty nine times against a very

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Speaker 1: good defense and you know, Philadelphia had a big lead,

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Speaker 1: so that's a tough environment. Great defense, well coached, teamed,

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Speaker 1: good pass rush. I think if I'm you know when

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Speaker 1: people said the reason I picked the Commanders to make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, well, I think it was my every year

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Speaker 1: I pick a dark horse team to make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and the reason I picked Washington, And I said, if

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Speaker 1: you go back and look at how bad the previous

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Speaker 1: owner was and the previous GM and the previous coach,

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Speaker 1: you had to clean out everybody. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Washington can win a playoff game, but I thought today

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Speaker 1: and again Jalen hurts concussion is out, I think they're

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Speaker 1: like Tampa. I think they're a really live dog in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, do you yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean the quarterback's pretty remarkable, you know, for his

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Speaker 2: great Obviously, Lamar Jackson's become one of the best players

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Speaker 2: we've ever seen. But this guy is better as a

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Speaker 2: rookie than Lamar was as a rookie. Now, in fairness,

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Speaker 2: Lamar had only played a couple of years in college.

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Speaker 2: This guy was there for five plus years. But he

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Speaker 2: is much more polished year one than Lamar. And his

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Speaker 2: game is somewhat similar, right, I mean his legs today

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Speaker 2: he made some huge plays with his legs huge and

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Speaker 2: like listen, Jalen went out and that's huge. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a big candy pick a guy at all.

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Speaker 2: But he's not playing Jalen Hurst. He's playing Vic Fangio

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Speaker 2: in that defense, which is I mean, not just healthy

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Speaker 2: and awesome defensive line, and he was he was carving

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Speaker 2: them up. I think he he's blown me away. I

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Speaker 2: always hesitate to think rookies are going to take the

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Speaker 2: league by storm. That's why everyone Caleb, I say, this

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Speaker 2: league is so hard. He to do that at this

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Speaker 2: point in time in the season, This season wasn't on

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Speaker 2: the line or whatever, but they easily could have lost

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Speaker 2: this game. Everything was gonna be okay, and he just

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Speaker 2: wouldn't let him loose. And they are and he's throwing

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Speaker 2: to guys. A couple guys I don't even I follow

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Speaker 2: this stuff for a living, Like who's that? You got

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Speaker 2: to google them, right, and it's it's not Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: It's his brother, Luke McCaffrey. And Terry mclaurin's a really

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Speaker 2: good player, but he's nott Justin Jefferson and those guys,

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Speaker 2: I mean, those two look like Montana and Rice when

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Speaker 2: they're connect Their cohesion year one is just out of

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Speaker 2: this world. And like you said, It is amazing. You know,

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Speaker 2: in football, so many people go, why doesn't Virginia McCaskey sell,

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Speaker 2: or why doesn't Mark Davis cell It's like, guys, you

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Speaker 2: would much rather have this six or seven billion dollar

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Speaker 2: asset and live your life through the asset, which is

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Speaker 2: going to be completely the same as having all the

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Speaker 2: cash and you have to give half the cash to

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Speaker 2: the government and no one then cares about you, and

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Speaker 2: you're completely irrelt. These people don't sell if they don't

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Speaker 2: have to. You know, Dan Sneyder basically had to. They

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Speaker 2: got lucky that it all played out that way and

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Speaker 2: they just got a real franchise again. But what really

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Speaker 2: separates you, you know, Dan Quinn's clearly solid, is when

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Speaker 2: you get a special quarterback, it changes your franchise forever looks.

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Speaker 2: I think Sean mcdermot's good and their GM is good,

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Speaker 2: but Josh Allen is the reason that the Bills are

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Speaker 2: the Bills, right, and this guy is going to be

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Speaker 2: the reason that this franchise. I mean, there's if you

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Speaker 2: had to pick a quarterback for the next ten years

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Speaker 2: in that division, you wouldn't hesitate to pick Jaden over Jalen,

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Speaker 2: and Jalen's a good player. Yeah, Jack's a good player too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jayden's better already. I think I trust him more

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Speaker 1: from the pocket.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not even talking money. I'm saying if they

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Speaker 2: all made the same amount of money, if all things

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Speaker 2: were equal. I know one guy is on a rookie contract.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, even if that didn't exist, you would take him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, his physical characteristics. You know, Jalen's a good runner.

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Speaker 2: This guy's a much more explosive runner. Jalen's more of

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Speaker 2: a power runner. And like you said, he is. His accuracy,

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Speaker 2: you know that was one of the things coming from college.

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Speaker 2: He was great deep ball thrower. Well, yeah, he had

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Speaker 2: Molik Neighbors and Brian Thomas. I mean, two guys did

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Speaker 2: have a chance to be like all pro players in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. You're like, how's this going to translate to

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Speaker 2: the NFL? And it is because it's like third down plays,

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Speaker 2: accuracy over the middle. It's obviously he can throw the

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Speaker 2: go route, which he has done all season long, but

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Speaker 2: like it'll be third and seven, it'll keep a play

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Speaker 2: alive and hit erch or someone over the middle. You're like,

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Speaker 2: damn and Kingsbury, what a great hire and This just

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Speaker 2: gets back to ownership. What happened. The Raiders only offered

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Speaker 2: him a two year deal. They were kind of low

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Speaker 2: balling him. The new owner comes in, Hey, we'll guarantee

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Speaker 2: you three years, ten million dollars. Come here, come work

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Speaker 2: with the number two overall quarterback. Cool. I'm there. So

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Speaker 2: it's like we don't talk a lot. We do that

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Speaker 2: a lot with like free agency or you should have

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Speaker 2: traded up for this player in the draft. But coaches

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Speaker 2: Mark Davis would only offer him a two year deal.

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Speaker 2: Why because Mark Davis knew that he might fire his coach. Well,

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Speaker 2: if you're going to live in that world, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: lose out on a guy. Now. Would that have changed

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Speaker 2: much for the Raiders? Who knows. But Antonio Pierce wanted

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Speaker 2: him and then all of a sudden something changes and

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Speaker 2: he's with Washington and safe to say that that was

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Speaker 2: that was a huge moment for the franchise Land in

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Speaker 2: Kingsbury because him, I mean, he's so good with these

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Speaker 2: running and mobile quarterbacks. Yes, were the year. Is it

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Speaker 2: even a question now or him Bo Nicks? Because I

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Speaker 2: thought Bo Nicks kind of surpassed him. And it feels

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Speaker 2: like Jayden after this win.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it does matter that Washington's in that Cowboy

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Giant Division. Those are big games. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: Bo's playing against Mahomes. But I think sometimes Jayden got

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Speaker 1: off to a hot start and Jaden's getting is closing

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Speaker 1: it with dramatic wins. So it probably now is back

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Speaker 1: in Jaden Daniels court. But you know, you can do

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Speaker 1: so many things right in this league, and if you

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Speaker 1: don't have quarterback right, you're screwed. It just doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: and a chance, you know, I mean a great example

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Speaker 1: is that as the Colts, I think they have a

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Speaker 1: really good roster, but you know they won a game

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Speaker 1: today with seven completions. Like Anthony Richardson, I was texting

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Speaker 1: an executive in the league today and I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: just you got to go after Sam Darnold. You can't

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Speaker 1: win in this league completing seven and eight passes. That's

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Speaker 1: you can tell by what a coach calls what he

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Speaker 1: thinks of his quarterback. And like the Colts don't want

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Speaker 1: to throw the ball, they just don't want to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball. So when I look at Jayden Daniels, I

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Speaker 1: think the thing that blew me away Day one was

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Speaker 1: I remember early in the year they were having him

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Speaker 1: throw from the end zone, and Sean Payton has bon

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Speaker 1: Nicks throwing from the end zone, Like the Kingsbury doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: He'll have that kid at the four yard line, roll

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Speaker 1: out in the end zone.

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Speaker 2: You don't care.

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Speaker 1: saw Michael Pennix today. He looked like an eight year vet.

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00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: He had a pick that wasn't his fault. Atlanta dropped

648
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: some passes. But I watched Michael Pennox today, you know,

649
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: and again thirty four to seven over the Giants, but

650
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty seven, a couple hundred yards. You could

651
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Speaker 1: just see the poise in the accuracy. I mean, I

652
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: thought Pennix looked pretty good. I thought even twice he

653
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: threw the ball away and I was like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he even he even had acumen, and like he was

655
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Speaker 1: very quick, very quick. You know, he's got these mits

656
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Speaker 1: for hands, so he can almost palm the ball. He's

657
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Speaker 1: you know he can. He's a pocket quarterback. But I

658
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: don't look at him like goffer Tua because just the

659
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: way he played in crappy outdoor, whether it's Indiana and Washington,

660
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: he's got huge mits. I think his ball cuts through

661
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: rain and wind. But I watched him today and it

662
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: was sort of like even when he was throwing the

663
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: ball away, it was like, oh, he's totally under control.

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Speaker 2: You know, think about this quarterback class. They all, I know,

665
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: that was only his first start, and a lot of

666
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: people are like, well, his penix's box score wasn't great,

667
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: Like did you guys watch the game? Watch the game?

668
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: He looks light years better and more his arms more

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Speaker 2: lively and quicker than cousins. My question was, why didn't

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Speaker 2: they make this move three weeks ago? Right? You know,

671
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Speaker 2: why did they wait so long? You know you know

672
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Speaker 2: what they wait million dollars?

673
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Speaker 1: The Arthur Blank wrote a check and he's like, guys,

674
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Speaker 1: we got a lot of heat for this. We better

675
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Speaker 1: squeeze every last ounce of juice out of that check.

676
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Speaker 1: I think it's basically the owner. It's like, okay, now

677
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: they may have waited one game too long. But I

678
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Speaker 1: think when you write that check, because I said, I

679
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Speaker 1: thought Cousins was good until Thanksgiving next year, and he

680
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Speaker 1: made it to about Thanksgiving this year and he fell

681
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Speaker 1: off a cliff. But I think that's the reason.

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Speaker 2: I was listening to a podcast this week for a

683
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Speaker 2: guy that used to work with Steve Cohen on his

684
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Speaker 2: trading desk, and Steve's big thing always was when you

685
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: see a loser, you have to pivot or we're just

686
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: going to lose more money. And I think if they

687
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Speaker 2: end up missing the playoffs, they rode that the money

688
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: was already spent. You already did it, The mistake already happened.

689
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: You made this draft choice. Who I think Schrager or

690
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: someone reported he hadn't been getting any reps. You know,

691
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: in practice, the backup doesn't get many reps. And when

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Speaker 2: you have a veteran like Cousins, he got no reps

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Speaker 2: all season, I mean with the scout team. But you're

694
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Speaker 2: not running your own offense. So he's just thrown into

695
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Speaker 2: the fire today when he's been over servicing the defense.

696
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Speaker 2: This is not like there's not a rotation going on

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. So he's just thrown to the fire.

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Speaker 2: And this was a thing with Pennix. He was a

699
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Speaker 2: ready made guy. This is a twenty four year old

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Speaker 2: who's been playing college for ten years. He was a

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Speaker 2: He wasn't a JJ McCarthy or Drake May project. I

702
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Speaker 2: think this we see all the time over the last decade,

703
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Speaker 2: these these draft classes that have three or four guys

704
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Speaker 2: to get drafted in the first round, and usually half

705
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: of them after the first year. We're like, ugh, oh, yes,

706
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Speaker 2: all these guys. I mean, obviously, Caleb's physical abilities jump out.

707
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: Jayden has got to be one of the best rookie

708
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in recent memory. Drake May I mean, he's dealing

709
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Speaker 2: with a shit show there. And you watch that first

710
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: drive today throw a beautiful touchdown against the Bills. You're like, God,

711
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Speaker 2: I understand why if males fired, a lot of people

712
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: would be interested in this job. You watch Penix, You're like, god,

713
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: this kind of looks like Washington, like just his manner reasons.

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00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: Bo Nix has gotten better and better and better and better.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing where it's like, you're just gonna

716
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Speaker 2: risk the percentages aren't on your side that oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: JJ's also gonna hit. And all six of these guys

718
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: are gonna be good players. When you got Sam Darnold

719
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Speaker 2: in your lap, I think back to the Donald thing.

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Speaker 2: At minimum you got a franchise because you kiss think

721
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Speaker 2: let him hit the open market and get do a

722
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Speaker 2: bidding board. No, you just franchise them and then figure

723
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Speaker 2: it out from there. Minimum. If you're not, if you

724
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Speaker 2: can't just extend them, which I would do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think when I watch Panics today as Atlanta

726
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Speaker 1: one thirty four to seven, first thing is poised, second,

727
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Speaker 1: his accuracy, not to throw, afraid to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: down the field. But it goes back to something Herbert

729
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: first game. You could see it. Burrow first, second game,

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Speaker 1: you could see it. C J. Stroud second game, you

731
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Speaker 1: could see it. Mahomes first game year one, week seventeen

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Speaker 1: you could see it. Even Lamar when he came in

733
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Speaker 1: week eleven for Baltimore, You're like, holy shit, what is that?

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Speaker 1: That doesn't look like anything We try to talk ours.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was talking to Giant fans four years

736
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Speaker 1: into Daniel Jones and they're blaming, and I'm always like

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Speaker 1: you if a guy is an if like if the

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Speaker 1: ONLD line's great, and if he's got he's not a guy,

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Speaker 1: and like it's like anything else, if you have to

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Speaker 1: talk yourself into stuff, then it's not really it's not true.

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Speaker 1: You watch Pennix today, I would absolutely stand behind that

742
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: guy's gonna play for ten years in this league if

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Speaker 1: if injuries don't get in the way. That's a ten

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Speaker 1: year starter and a multiple Pro bowler.

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Speaker 2: I think, if I'm Arthur Blank today, I go, are

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Speaker 2: we not a nine or ten win today? If Penix

747
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 2: had just been our full time starter and we had

748
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Speaker 2: that ninety one hundred million dollars that we gave Kirk

749
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Speaker 2: Cousins to allocate on other positions that we desperately needed,

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Speaker 2: and then this offseason, because no one's going to trade

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Speaker 2: for a twenty seven and a half million dollar, thirty

752
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: seven year old player that's declining that we're gonna have

753
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: to cut and then have a thirty five million dollar

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Speaker 2: dead cap in the second year of our rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's pretty bad business. And when

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00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: you look at the last couple of years of teams

757
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: that needed some bridge quarterbacks, right the Bucks last year,

758
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Speaker 2: they get Baker Mayfield for four or five million dollars

759
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: this year and they make the playoffs. This year, you

760
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: get Sam Darnold for ten million dollars boom. You're competing

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Speaker 2: for the number one seed, and we paid a guy

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Speaker 2: coming off an achilles who clearly that injury has affected

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Speaker 2: his biomechanics of his arm strength, which is extremely weak.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting?

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Speaker 1: Aaron was bad early, he's better now. Kirk was good early,

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Speaker 1: he fell off the cliff, so their bodies have reacted

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Speaker 1: differently to it. Aaron actually in the last four weeks

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Speaker 1: has been pretty damn.

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Speaker 2: Good because far superior athlete.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that has to be it. I

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Speaker 2: mean far superior, like a guy in if you're just

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Speaker 2: ranking him, you know, if Lamar's a ten, you know,

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Speaker 2: Aaron's like a seven. And Kirk for NFL standards, what's

775
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Speaker 2: Kirk three two? I mean it's pretty low. And did

776
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: you have that number that Remember he threw a pick six?

777
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Speaker 2: What it was his charger game and it was it

778
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Speaker 2: was the slowest pass of the year in the NFL

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Speaker 2: or something. And I truly listen, I'm no doctor or trainer,

780
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: but clearly that's affecting him because I thought last year,

781
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Speaker 2: before he got hurt, his arm strength was much stronger

782
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 2: than it was early on in his career, and I

783
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: think they they kind of bet on that guy when

784
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: in the history of sports, and I know we have

785
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 2: gotten I would say a little spoiled because of Tom's

786
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: run at forty five. Let's just put in Lebron. Those

787
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: guys are outliers. Most guys when they have an injury,

788
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 2: fall off a cliff, and that's what happened to Cousins.

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Speaker 2: And I truly believe that you had all these new

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00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: people and then they fell in love with Pennix after

791
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Speaker 2: the signing, and it was I hated the move at

792
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Speaker 2: the time because I thought Pennis, if you would have

793
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Speaker 2: drafted Drake may or JJ McCarthy been like, okay, Pennis

794
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Speaker 2: was not a sit behind a guy, just start them

795
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Speaker 2: immediately and I listen, maybe they wouldn't have been good enough,

796
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Speaker 2: but I know just watching him, he's way more talented

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Speaker 2: this year and today than Cousins. I don't even think

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Speaker 2: it's close.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Rams beat the Jets nineteen to nine. Another strange,

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Speaker 1: ugly first half for Stafford and McVeigh, which you know

801
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Speaker 1: your first half is your scripted half. A really rough

802
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Speaker 1: first half, but they had a great fourth quarter. The

803
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: Jets hat a fourth quarter league and just evaporated. The

804
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: Rams are seven and four and one score games and

805
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: the Jets are three and seven and one score games.

806
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: So the Jets have been in games and they can't

807
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: make plays late, and that was typical today. It was penalties.

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00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's interesting. They got Tyler Higbee, their

809
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: top tight end back, so that's another weapon. So the

810
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Rams for the first time all year are completely healthy

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Speaker 1: on offense. They have all their starters back. This was

812
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Speaker 1: the first game. But it's funny they're healthy and they're hot.

813
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Speaker 1: It was the third straight game with no sacks allowed.

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Speaker 1: So I think we would both agree that when Stafford's

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Speaker 1: upright and not pressured, he's a top four quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the league, and he he is sensational. But when I

817
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: watch them and then I watch you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: When you watch the Rams win, what I see is

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Speaker 1: coaching excellence, Like they just don't make a lot of mistakes. Now,

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00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: Kyraen Williams got an unsportsman like penalty today that killed

821
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: the drive and they settled for a field goal. But

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Speaker 1: it didn't it wasn't punitive, it didn't cause a loss.

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Speaker 1: But do you I watch the Rams and I'm like,

824
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: they're five players away. I just I think they're good

825
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: enough to narrowly win a playoff game. But Minnesota's so good.

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Speaker 1: Detroit and Philly have much better rosters. I think green

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Speaker 1: Bay is just getting better. Like on a weekly basis,

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Speaker 1: Can the Rams win a playoff game because they're gonna

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Speaker 1: win their division?

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Speaker 2: Well, more than likely they're gonna be the three seed

831
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Speaker 2: in green Bay is gonna be the sixth. That's a

832
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Speaker 2: pretty tough first round matchup. I would take green Bay

833
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: and green Bay is pretty well suited to play indoors

834
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Speaker 2: and score a lot of points, right, I mean, that's

835
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Speaker 2: some serious team speed. What did they do last year

836
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Speaker 2: when they played indoors against the Cowboys? They lit up

837
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Speaker 2: that scoreboard. So if Love's on, that's a tough draw

838
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Speaker 2: for the Rams. Back to back years getting the Lions

839
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Speaker 2: and the Packers more than likely. Because I don't think

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Speaker 2: McVeigh gets enough credit for this. Right. We talk a

841
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: lot about him being this great young schematic guy with Kyle,

842
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: and I mean, Kyle's taking a hit this year. But

843
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: you know Andy, way back in the day when he

844
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: first got hired in Philly. Last year they were three

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Speaker 2: and six and went seven in one. I think their

846
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: one loss was like to the Giants. This year, they

847
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: were one and four. Now, granted that was a lot

848
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: of injuries, but I don't give a shit. If you

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Speaker 2: have a lot of you're one and four. I mean,

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00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: that's a pretty deep hole to dig out of. And

851
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: now they're more than likely gonna win eleven games, right,

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Speaker 2: They got Arizona coming up, who's just not very good,

853
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: and Seattle might just be done by that point in

854
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: time and that game might not even matter. Is this

855
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: guy kind of like a younger version of Tomlin in

856
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 2: terms of leadership and holding guys together. And I think

857
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: we got very lucky because clearly he came close. I

858
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: don't blame him. I mean, someone starts throwing fifteen eighteen

859
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: million dollars in front of you to go call one

860
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: game a week on Thursday night, the Amazon thing, and

861
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: he turned that down, and he stayed, and we've really

862
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: seen him rise to the occasion these last couple of years, because,

863
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 2: like you said, I like the Jets. I had money

864
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: on the Jets today just because that West Coast team

865
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: they had just had a huge win that put him

866
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: in position. Even like they were, they controlled their own destiny.

867
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: You're coming five hours morning kickoff in New York, New York.

868
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: The Jets have actually been playing better. Acted that game

869
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: to be weird, and it was for a long time,

870
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: but ultimately the kareem rose and they separated, like you

871
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: said in the fourth quarter. But I think McVeigh is

872
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: like a young Tomlin to just the adversity, being able

873
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: to just handle different guys. Now he's proven that he

874
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: can handle sweet Vets Hall of Fame guys like Stafford

875
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: or Aaron Donald, but all these young guys he made,

876
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, I think it was hard for him to

877
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: have best friend become the defensive coordinator. They've been freaking

878
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: awesome on defense. I mean, this young guy I tacked

879
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: around the league and everything. I hear the violence from

880
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: Verse and Fisk, the two Florida State guys, which just

881
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: people love those two guys around the league, just the violent,

882
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: violent group.

883
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: I mean, they need a number one corner. They may

884
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: take a corner in the first round, and they need

885
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle and a boundary receiver. But if they

886
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: get a number one corner, dude, that means they got

887
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: two more years of pay nobody on this defense. This

888
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: is the young you know how We've been saying the

889
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: Packers is the best young offense in the NFL. The

890
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: Rams have the cheapest, most economical, best young defense that

891
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: need in a lockdown corner. But I don't know if

892
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: they can win a playoff game because I think the

893
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: AFC is better at the top. I think the NFC

894
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: is deeper. In fact, let me throw this out to you,

895
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: the playoff picture today. I think this is right. Baltimore

896
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: would open at Houston, Denver at Pittsburgh. Would it be

897
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: Minnesota or Green Bay at the Rams?

898
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 2: Let me bring up the playoffs. I think it's Houston.

899
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: It's yeah. Technically Pittsburgh has the three seeds, so it

900
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: would be Houston Baltimore. It'd be Pittsburgh Chargers and Broncos Bills,

901
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: and the NFC would be Rams, Thackers, Minnesota, Bucks, Eagles Washington,

902
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 2: which would be a tough game for the Eagles.

903
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,120
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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime for details. They said today that Aaron Rodgers

912
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: would be willing the announcers to take a pay cut

913
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: to stay. And I think Vrabel's the best candidate for

914
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: the Jets or the Bears. I think if I was

915
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: the Jets, I'd love the drafted quarterback. But they're in

916
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: a tough spot because maybe Riley Leonards in the fourth round.

917
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: But there's I've had two executives tell me that they

918
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: think every quarterback taken this year is better than Shador

919
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: Sanders everyone.

920
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: And after you watch.

921
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: Penix today, I don't think there's any question Jayden, you know.

922
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: I mean, so it's like Green Bay the Jets. They're

923
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: in a weird spot, like there's not Aaron's plan pretty

924
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: well now and he and Devonte are cooking. Yeah, I

925
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: think I think you don't have a choice. I think

926
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: he's moving better. I think you're stuck with Aaron.

927
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't hear what your thoughts were on the

928
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: article that came out. But you know, the Jets, they're

929
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: such an easy target right now that any story you

930
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: read is just one hundred percent believable. There's nothing crazy

931
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: enough that can come out. I do think people would

932
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: be stunned how many of these owners. Now, some of

933
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: these owners are older, so their children like Jonathan Craft,

934
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: you know, in their fifties, or Stephen Stephen Jones. But

935
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: those that have younger children who can be the most

936
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 2: honest with a billionaire, they're kids. I was watching Charlie

937
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: Woods play with Tiger Woods today. Charlie can say things

938
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: of Tiger that no one else can because everyone else

939
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: that their owner talks to is on their payroll. So

940
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: I think you know the story about the Madden rating,

941
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: it sounds really like whoa provocative and crazy. I think

942
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: these owners get told crazy things by their children all

943
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: the time, and that goes for Jonathan Craft to robber

944
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: Craft and Steven Jones to Jerry It's it might not

945
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: be Madden ratings, but these people have ideas that are unfiltered,

946
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: and I think the Jets aren't that much different than

947
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: the majority of these teams with just these owners that

948
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: are just kind of living and because forever as an

949
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: NFL owner, you you know, when I was a kid,

950
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: people when the nine to forty nine ers were playing

951
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: a candlestick, the de Bartolos had family money. But it's

952
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: not like the forty nine ers. The league wasn't making

953
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: as much. They were very dependent. These guys have monopoly money.

954
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: Now even the poor owners are billionaires. So winning and losing.

955
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: Used to have to win to generate money. Well, now

956
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: even if you lose, you're still getting the five hundred

957
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: million dollars and your team's gonna still make some other

958
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: money in you know, extra revenue streams, so you don't

959
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: have to worry about winning to make money. So you're like,

960
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: I kind of that's my theory on why some of

961
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: these owners no longer. In the eighties ninety seventies, you

962
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: hire whatever coach you thought would make sure or give

963
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: you the best chance to win, even if he was

964
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: a complete asshole. Now it's like, you know, we're making

965
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: money no matter what. I'd rather have a guy that

966
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: you know, might listen. So I wondered, like everyone was

967
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: turned off by Belichick because of that, you know, Vrabel

968
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: and I don't blame for Rabel, Like, listen, I know

969
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: what I'm doing here playing in the league for fifteen years.

970
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: I played at Ohio State. Like, my ideas are my ideas.

971
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: But I think you kind of have to be a

972
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: politician a little bit now to even get hired because

973
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: these owners like don't want to deal with it because

974
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: I can't go broke no matter what.

975
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny when Harbaugh took the Chargers job. You know,

976
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: some people saw it as a risk, but I know

977
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: Dean Spanos and I know their history because we grew

978
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: up with it on the West Coast. He was never

979
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: a meddling guy. He had a reputation. I thought it

980
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: was earned that he was cheap a lot of first

981
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: round holdouts. But once he moved into Sofar and he

982
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: pays a dollar rent a year, and Stan Kronkey is

983
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: footing the bill. They're rolling in cash and he's not cheap,

984
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: and they're paying for players, and they're paying Herbert and

985
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: they're they paid Harbaugh that job. I was thinking the

986
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: other day the three best JO openings I could think

987
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: of in the last ten years. Lafleur to Green Bay

988
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: was a great job. Aaron in his prime I would

989
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: say Mike McCarthy, you know Dak was in his prime,

990
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: are close to it. It's a pretty good job. And

991
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: then Harbaugh to Herbert and Rashaun Slater, the left tackle

992
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: is a pretty good job. Most of these jobs are awful.

993
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't think because of Woody Johnson and because of

994
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons in Chicago, I think those are

995
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: the two best jobs, one for personnel the Jets and

996
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: the other just because of the quarterback. But are you

997
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: sure Vrabel should take either one of these jobs?

998
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: No, No, absolutely not. I mean the Jets have proven

999
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 2: to go to a place where coaches die and because

1000
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: their owner does I mean his kids. That's real, Like

1001
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: he's given it in part of that article, which I didn't,

1002
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: I just assumed he was going back overseas. He's not

1003
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: going Donald pick someone else. So Wood he's staying. So

1004
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: every day when you go to the office, Wood, he's

1005
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: there in Chicago. You have to answer to Kep and

1006
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: warned like that's that's not like that's a fact right now,

1007
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: Like that's that is what happen is happening. I also

1008
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: think Jim, you know the version of Jim that we

1009
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: saw with San Francisco, where I think most people describe

1010
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: him being the crazy. He's completely different now when you

1011
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 2: watch some of these post games, you know, after wins

1012
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 2: and he's he's pointing at John Spanos, he feels much lighter.

1013
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: I feel like much and I know he's driven in

1014
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: the chip on his shoulder to win, but he feels

1015
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: less trying to take on the world than I think

1016
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: he was a decade ago. And who knows, maybe that's

1017
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: with money, maybe that's with win the National Championship, aud

1018
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: and maybe being around college kids and his dad. I

1019
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: think the last six it's a little different atmosphere than

1020
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: the NFL, you know, really seeing guys because most of

1021
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: his players aren't going to the league, right They're going

1022
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: to be citizens in society, and I bet that just

1023
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 2: it just gives you a little life perspective. He feels

1024
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 2: like a different human being. Where you know Rabel. I'd

1025
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: want Rabel as my coach, But I just wonder some

1026
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: of these owners, like I don't know if he's gonna

1027
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: listen to me. These guys want because money now is

1028
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: no longer the Jets can win four games for the

1029
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: next ten years, and what he's print in cash, so

1030
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: and he's given you his opinions, like, let's face it,

1031
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: what he's got some vibes of Dan Snyder in Washington.

1032
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: It's a little different, but there are some similarities. Who

1033
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: would want to do that?

1034
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I was Mike Rabel's agent, I'm not I

1035
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: because if you go and look one year from now,

1036
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow could need a new coach. I means think

1037
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: about it, like like Dak could need a new coach.

1038
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: There's there's I mean, Jalen Hurts and Howie Roseman can

1039
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: need a new coach. Like there there were a year

1040
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: and I keep saying this John Andy Reid's health. If

1041
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: Andy Reid won a third straight I'm not sure you know,

1042
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know.

1043
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: I think he's look at slim right now, Colin. I

1044
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: saw I saw a side shot. He looks good. I

1045
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: don't know.

1046
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: What if Sean McDermott gets bounced early that job could

1047
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: I think next year you have potentially three or four

1048
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: really interesting jobs. I I'm just saying, if I'm Mike Vrabel,

1049
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I want these jobs.

1050
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily subscribe to this line of thinking, but

1051
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: it does feel like a lot of people. You know,

1052
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: you get that one year window where you either pounce right.

1053
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy did that, like fired coaches in Green Bay.

1054
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: People would come over and he kind of got the

1055
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: buzz going, or you kind of go into the media

1056
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: and keep your name out there. Rabel's you know, Frable's

1057
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: not a big pump is chest out on TV. He's

1058
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: working for the Browns. It's not really his style. But

1059
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: I think most people would say, you start going a

1060
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 2: couple years away, you somewhat get lost in the shuffle

1061
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: if you're not front and center, you know, because every

1062
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: year there's a couple of new young offensive coaches. I

1063
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: don't necessarily think that way, but clearly some of these

1064
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: owners and people, you know, the agents around the league

1065
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: think that's kind of risky.

1066
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1067
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: I think some coaches get worried about that. All of

1068
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: a sudden, you get lost out of the shuffle. And

1069
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: with him, he's always got the connection. If anything goes

1070
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: where with Ryan Day, I'm he'd be their number one call.

1071
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: And luckily for college athletics, that pays one hundred million dollars,

1072
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: so he's always got that on the back burner. But

1073
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: I think you got to be careful with that, because

1074
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you could look in a couple

1075
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: of years, in a couple of cycles, and maybe he's

1076
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: kind of out of the loop. Yep.

1077
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: I want to talk about one game yesterday and then

1078
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: we'll get to college. Ravens thirty four, Steedter seventeen. And

1079
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: I was thinking about Lamar Jackson until Steph Curry was

1080
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: the MVP of the Finals and did it without KD.

1081
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: So he won a championship pre KD. But then when

1082
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: KD arrived and appeared to be kind of the big

1083
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: shot maker for the Warriors, it to some degree hurt

1084
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: the overall image of Steph. Not the brand, but kind

1085
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: of the image. And then KD leaves, and you know,

1086
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: being the MVP of a finals, you know in the Celtics,

1087
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: I think like, finally, you and I knew it, everybody

1088
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: knew it, but it finally gave him credibility that was

1089
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: long overdue as the greatest shooter of our lifetime. And

1090
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: you know, there were people I remember NBA players, they

1091
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: had a poll several years ago. It's like four years ago.

1092
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: Half thought Westbrook was the better player than Steph Curry,

1093
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: which was remarkable to me. But I feel like Lamar

1094
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: Jackson is become little Steph Curry, Like we're just nitpicking,

1095
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: and we just you know, Steph Curry's not a great defender.

1096
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: He didn't have a major body take away the three

1097
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: point shot. What is he? Lamar Jackson is winning seventy

1098
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: six percent of his games, And I understand the postseason struggles,

1099
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: but there are great coaches who struggled in the postseason.

1100
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: Dan Marino struggled in the postseason. John Elway for a year,

1101
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: struggled in the postseason before Terrell Davis right like he

1102
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: was getting blown out in Super Bowls, he was losing

1103
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: playoff games. I just Lamar had one hundred and fifteen

1104
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: passer rating against the Steelers yesterday, and I think we're

1105
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: getting to a point where we're not celebrating. I mean,

1106
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: Steph Curry is the best shooter and handler of my lifetime.

1107
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is the most athletic quarterback of my lifetime.

1108
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: And he made a couple of plays against Pittsburgh and

1109
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm just like, come on, man, this this thing. And

1110
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, Jay Flowers isn't a huge target. Mark Andrews,

1111
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: He's got good targets now, not great. I don't know.

1112
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: I think I feel like I've been defending. Usually I

1113
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: don't have to defend great players. I feel like I'm

1114
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: constantly defending Lamar Jackson.

1115
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 2: I've been critical just because in the big spots he's

1116
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: let you down. You know, last year in the playoffs

1117
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: was Taylor made for him and he just got frenetic.

1118
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: I thought yesterday was one of the finest performances of

1119
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: his career. And he's thrown four or five touchdowns and

1120
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: three fifty four hundred yards. I don't care about the

1121
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 2: box score because one they took away his running ability

1122
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: and where he evisceerates the majority of these teams that

1123
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: he doesn't play that often is he runs and throws

1124
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: on you. Well, yesterday couldn't run because what are the

1125
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 2: stealers take away from him because their edge is are

1126
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 2: so fast and they're so used to playing them. It

1127
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: was like, we're gonna let Derek Henry run, but you

1128
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 2: are not gonna run wild if you got a pass.

1129
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: And he was so much calmer than he was the

1130
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: last time he played him, and the way he was

1131
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs where he got really frenetic and he

1132
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: eviscerated them, and I thought like if that version of

1133
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 2: Lamar plays a playoff game against the Bills or the Chiefs,

1134
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: like this team can win the AFC, Like that version

1135
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: of a guy completely calm, like, Okay, I don't have

1136
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: to run for eighty yards today. I'm not gonna run.

1137
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dominate because sometimes against them, or he doesn't

1138
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: freak out against like the Giants the previous week that

1139
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: was that was like a high school game for him.

1140
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: And he plays like that against a lot of opponents,

1141
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: and then the Chiefs and then the Steelers stride his

1142
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,959
Speaker 2: career have kind of been as kryptonite, and he felt

1143
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 2: like early on he're like god is and he just

1144
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: he just calmed down and it was like, I'm going

1145
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: to dominate you. And the Steelers got a serious problem,

1146
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: right and they can't cover anybody that's back to back weeks.

1147
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: And Lamar's like, I'm gonna destroy you, like and I'm

1148
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: gonna make this look like I do against everyone else.

1149
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: And he kind of threw his hat back in the

1150
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: ring of the MVP. I mean, he's having part of

1151
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 2: the reason he won the MVP las year because it

1152
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: was an awful group, like the competition for the for

1153
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 2: the award wasn't great. He threw twenty four to twenty

1154
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: five touchdown this year, he said, by far, I think

1155
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: having the best season. Brady mentioned on the broadcast, He's like,

1156
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: I think they're doing way more complex stuff in the

1157
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 2: passing game. And obviously it helps when you got Derek

1158
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: Henry run a wild but I thought just his calmness

1159
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: were in last year in that Chiefs game, it's like

1160
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: he freaked out. And a guy on the Raven staff

1161
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: kind of described it to me. It was like, it's

1162
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: like he's playing Tiger Woods. He was down a couple

1163
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: of shots and then he just pressed and you could

1164
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 2: feel it, and so did the offensive coordinator last year,

1165
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: those two of them in that game, it was like,

1166
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 2: we're good. We're good, and I'm better than that guy.

1167
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: And listen, is he better than Mahomes or not. He

1168
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: can play just as good as him as long as

1169
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 2: he stays calm and he did yesterday. And if he

1170
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: plays like that and their defense. The other thing this

1171
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: is where the good teams, you know, bad teams freak

1172
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: out and they do chaotic stuff, like I gotta fire

1173
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: this coordinator. Zach Orr, first time coordinator, replacing one of

1174
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: the best defensive coordinators we've seen in recent memory. It

1175
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: was really bad early, like this is not sustainable. They've

1176
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: moved Kyle Hamilton back. Their defense is played a lot better.

1177
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: The organization is pretty stable. There's like, take a deep breath, everybody.

1178
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: We believe in everybody, Lamar. It's like, put more on

1179
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: my shoulders. Put more, and now you see them as

1180
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: like god when they play like this, I mean, they

1181
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,479
Speaker 2: are a real threat. Right and listen what the Chiefs

1182
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: are doing this year. I honestly don't know how they're

1183
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: doing it, but it's one of the great coaching jobs

1184
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: in the in the history of the league. But the

1185
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 2: Ravens and well, you know, the Bills. I kind of

1186
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,479
Speaker 2: give them a little bit of a pass today playing

1187
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: the Patriots, but it's gonna be hard, and I think

1188
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna need They're gonna need Lamar to be exceptional

1189
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: because you're gonna have to beat the Bills. You don't

1190
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: have to be Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. And more

1191
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: than likely for them on the road right that Week

1192
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: two or the Divisional round would be in Buffalo. Obviously,

1193
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship more than likely. I mean, I think

1194
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are gonna beat the Steelers here in a

1195
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 2: couple of days in Arrowhead, and if he did that,

1196
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: it would kind of I don't want to they wipe

1197
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: away everything, but we wouldn't talk about the past if

1198
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: he's able to take down Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes

1199
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: on the road. I mean, that was a defining moment

1200
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: for Patrick Mahomes last year, right going to Buffalo and

1201
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: then going to Baltimore. It was really it felt like

1202
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: the icing on his cake. He's like twenty eight years old.

1203
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: It's like, how do you do that? And I think

1204
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: Lamar has an opportunity because their offense when that think's humming.

1205
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the Steelers are struggling little bit defensively, but

1206
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: they're still pretty good, and they just they toyed with them.

1207
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: It felt like, didn't it.

1208
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: All?

1209
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: Right?

1210
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: Let's talk college football? So road teams Tennessee hammered, Indiana

1211
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: doutless performance. Boy does at Kurt Signetti talks a big

1212
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: game and does him back it up? Smu Hammered. Clemson

1213
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: did throw it for three hundred and thirty six yards,

1214
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: but they were outmatched. I thought the best get bet

1215
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: of the weekend was Texas minus twelve and a half

1216
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: at home, and I thought Clemson played about as well

1217
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: as they could and they still got beat by fourteen.

1218
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: But I want to say this, so this is a

1219
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: twelve team playoff that will become fourteen pretty soon and

1220
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: maybe sixteen. The reason we have the playoff it was negotiated,

1221
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: like these aren't the twelve best teams in terms of

1222
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: NFL athletes.

1223
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: That's not what it is.

1224
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: The reason this is allowed is because there was a

1225
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: lot of negotiation. The Mountain West gets involved. Everything was negotiated.

1226
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: So it's not going to be seven SEC teams and

1227
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: five Big ten teams. That's not what it's going to be.

1228
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: But the other thing is most of my life I

1229
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: remember arguing this. I'm not even sure if I was

1230
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: at Fox or ESPN, but I used to be against

1231
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: the playoff because my argument was always this, have you

1232
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: ever thought in your life the sixth best team in

1233
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: college football by the end of the year could beat

1234
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: the number one team? And my answer is no. I

1235
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: mean when Nick Saban's fifteen year run, most of his

1236
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: teams there were only two to three teams in the

1237
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: country that could.

1238
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: Play with them.

1239
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: Clemson with Trevor Lawrence s Ordashawn, Ohio State, Georgia, maybe

1240
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: an LSU team that could play with them. So by

1241
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: the time you would get to like the fifth, sixth,

1242
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: seventh team, especially if the first round was in Tusca Loosa,

1243
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: they were going to kick the holy hell out of

1244
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: anybody they played. So the idea that Ohio State or

1245
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: Penn State or Notre Dame in a home game, now

1246
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: we go to neutral sites, we'll have an upset this weekend.

1247
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,959
Speaker 1: But my take is we're overreacting a little bit. Now. Again,

1248
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: I thought Tennessee in Indiana would play close because I

1249
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: thought weather would be such a factor, but it was

1250
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: just cold and clear. But we've got to be honest

1251
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: about this. When Pete Carroll was rolling at USC or

1252
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: you know again the Nick Saban or Kirby Smart for

1253
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: about a three year run, there weren't five teams that

1254
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: could go toe to toe with them. The only thing

1255
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: maybe be the Natty game a Michigan or in Ohio State.

1256
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: So I think this was not predictable. But I think

1257
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: we're overreacting because coming up now, John, now we've got

1258
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: neutral sight games. I could I would bet almost anything.

1259
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna have an upset. One of the underdogs is

1260
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: gonna win. I think we're overreacting a bit to a

1261
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: twelve team playoff that was negotiated. You're just gonna get

1262
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: some Boise States in this thing and some ACC teams

1263
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: in well.

1264
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: I think I think it's twofold. First. I can't expect

1265
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: it to be perfect year one. This isn't year six,

1266
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: this is year one. On the flip side, I see

1267
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: a lot of pushback of everyone complaining that you shouldn't complain,

1268
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: we should celebrate this, and it's like, I don't know.

1269
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: I mean, this all exists because millions upon millions of

1270
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: people give their time to be entertained. And I've been

1271
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: watching football my entire life and I don't ever remember

1272
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: before this year watching Indiana, and Indiana didn't get the

1273
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt right in most people's eyes, because

1274
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 2: it's like, we don't know you. You don't have any

1275
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 2: NFL players. Who did you beat this year? In the NFL?

1276
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: If you make the playoffs, it's impossible to not beat

1277
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: some good teams. Plus even the bad teams you're beating

1278
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: are full of pros. I texted around some college scouting

1279
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: directors I said, how many combined NFL players do SMU

1280
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 2: in Indiana have? And he said, I will have to

1281
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 2: see some All Star game stuff, but probably five total.

1282
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: I said, South Carolina, Ole, Miss Alabama. He'd say probably

1283
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: on average low end seven for a team. I mean

1284
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: Bama eight nine. So the talent, the physicality, like Tennessee

1285
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: got their asking. If you just watched Tennessee move around.

1286
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 2: The quarterback is a young, frenetic player right now. Their

1287
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: talent on the team is immense. And Indiana we basically

1288
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: lumped in the Big Ten and the SEC as equals.

1289
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: And because Washington, who was in the Natty last year,

1290
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: lost their coach and all their players, wasn't any good.

1291
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: USC was supposed to be good, not any good. Michigan

1292
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: obviously lost seventeen NFL guys and their coach fell off

1293
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: a cliff. So they had three SEC teams Penn State, obviously, Oregon,

1294
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: Ohio State, but the rest of the conference for it

1295
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: was really bad. Right, So it turns out Indiana, like

1296
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: I just think they're not very good relative to the

1297
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: SEC teams, Like I don't think they could beat any

1298
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: of them, and I think, but they went eleven and

1299
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: one and some of these other teams went nine and three.

1300
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: This is in the NFL records. Like I said, we're

1301
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: comparing apples to cheeseburgers. So trying to do these records

1302
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: because in theory it makes sense. Well they're eleven in one,

1303
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: because that's how it's always worked, And I just go,

1304
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. So I think we look back at it.

1305
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: In Indiana and SMU, two things can be true. Indiana

1306
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: had a remarkable season, the best season in the history

1307
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: of the school by a mile, and they're probably not

1308
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: a top twenty, Like are they better in Colorado? I

1309
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: just looked at the top twenty five yesterday. It's like, well,

1310
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: Colorado's got a top ten quarterback probably one, and the

1311
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: best player in the country. Indiana, I'm watching them, like

1312
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: do they even have a pro their solid defense? SMU,

1313
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: I mean that was like JV Verus farsity. Yeah, I

1314
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: mean their quarterback was completely overwhelmed and the ACC is terrible,

1315
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: so of course it's overwhelmed. They don't have the talent.

1316
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: Who did they beat? So I think that moving forward,

1317
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: just because you have two more wins in a bad conference,

1318
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: this isn't the NCAA tournament where they're sixty four teams

1319
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: like whatever, just throw this team the seventh seed. We

1320
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: only had twelve spots, and I thought we got pretty

1321
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 2: let down for a lot of people that dedicate a

1322
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: lot of time that they don't even have the horse

1323
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: in the race. They just want to be entertained. You're like,

1324
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 2: this doesn't look right.

1325
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: Well, and also it's gonna get potentially worse because if

1326
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 1: you really look at Washington, they have an excellent young

1327
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: quarterback and Jetfish had a great recruiting year. So Washington's

1328
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: going to be interesting team.

1329
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: Next year. They'll be back.

1330
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: They'll be a top twenty team. Michigan just go the

1331
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: best quarterback, and again they've recruited at a very high level.

1332
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: Michigan will be viable. I just saw this week and

1333
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: USC went and bought to SEC defensive linemen, so I

1334
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: and their schedule is pretty weak by Big Ten standards.

1335
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: So my takeaway is the Big Ten, to your point,

1336
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: was top heavy and very weak. I don't think it'll

1337
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 1: be that next year. I think Ohio State will still

1338
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: be great, but I think Michigan, USC, Washington will be

1339
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: much better. And I think Oregon's and Penn State are

1340
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: going to remain powers. Because Landing and James Franklin are

1341
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: top ten recruiters easily in the country. So I think

1342
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: this year we got Indiana, not that it's a one

1343
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: off I did. I kind of felt like when I

1344
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: was watching Indiana play, it's not that they lost, it's

1345
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: that if I told you it was twenty seven to

1346
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: seventeen and you didn't watch the game, you'd be like, Okay,

1347
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: that was a game. Indiana was so gutless, punting down

1348
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: three score second half in plus territory. I think it

1349
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: really it was the way Indiana lost, which was like

1350
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: we just we know we can't compete. We don't want

1351
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: to be humiliated, so we're just gonna try. I think

1352
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: that really pissed people off. It was like, Okay, if

1353
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna play like that, just put Ole miss in

1354
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: the trial.

1355
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: I thought of a rule that if you were on

1356
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 2: the fence of a couple teams, that you have to

1357
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: have minimum more than two guys on each side of

1358
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 2: the ball that would start for your opponent. And did

1359
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: Indiana have four guys on their starting twenty two that

1360
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: would start for Notre Dame DoD They have one? Maybe

1361
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 2: how many guys on SMUs starting eleven on offensive defense

1362
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: would start for Penn State two maybe where that's the

1363
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: that's the argument for or Ole Miss, South Carolina and Alabama. Yeah,

1364
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 2: they might not have won, probably wouldn't have, but I

1365
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 2: know the talent discrepancy, Like I don't have a big

1366
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: issue with Tennessee getting their askit because I don't think

1367
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: the talent discrepancy. Obviously Ohio State's better and I mean

1368
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: could win the National Championship pretty easily, but like Tennessee,

1369
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: you could tell physically it's like a quarterback is throwing

1370
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: the ball over the map. They got NFL players all

1371
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: over the field. So I could live with that game.

1372
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: I can't live with the Indiana game, where it's like

1373
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: I've never watched this program. I've been watching college football

1374
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 2: for three decades and I can I do this for

1375
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: a living, so I know, well, they don't have any talent,

1376
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: so it's like what's going on? And then Signetti, I

1377
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 2: think some of his comments to Sabin before the game,

1378
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 2: bragging it out. I looked at their schedule, they go

1379
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: two Penn State, two, Oregon to Iowa, and like you said,

1380
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 2: the Big Ten is going to be better, that game

1381
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: is going to be circled. The big ten coaches are

1382
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: going to want to beat the shit out of him.

1383
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: I will be stunned. Six and six. They are going

1384
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: to be a target next year, and I hope they

1385
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 2: enjoyed this year because it's not going to be like

1386
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: that moving forward. I'll promise you that.

1387
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: So before we get to the quarterfinal games, I do

1388
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: think we have a potential upset. Listen Tennessee, Ohio State

1389
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Day. The critics couldn't go back to their Reddit boards.

1390
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: But here's what I really took away. Clemson, they deserve credit.

1391
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: They fought to the very end, and they don't have again,

1392
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: they don't have transfer portal guys, and they don't recruit.

1393
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: Even when Dabo was winning a Natty, they didn't recruit

1394
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: like Alabama and Georgia LSU. They never have. They just

1395
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: don't and they don't use a transfer portal. So I

1396
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: think Dabbo's a hell of a coach. But my takeaway

1397
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: on that is if Ohio States, if Will Howard is

1398
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 1: as good as he was against Tennessee, I don't know

1399
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: how Texas stops them. I mean, Clemson was throwing the

1400
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: ball all over the yard, they were throwing it up

1401
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: the sideline, out of the backfield, seam routes. I mean,

1402
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: when you think of Clemson, you don't think three hundred

1403
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: and fifty yards passing. I know Texas won thirty eight

1404
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: twenty four, but that twenty four points. I looked at

1405
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: that and I thought, Jesus Texas plays Arizona State next

1406
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half point favorite. Maybe that's not an issue,

1407
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 1: but if I'm Ohio State in my passing game, I

1408
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: after this weekend, Ohio State's my favorite to win the

1409
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: national championship, not Texas. I was almost dismayed. Not just

1410
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: that Clemson through but the variety of throws, the third

1411
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: down throws, the wide open targets in the middle of

1412
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: the field. It was startling to me.

1413
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 2: Well, their quarterbacks really come along. I mean, he's the

1414
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 2: guy to keep it if he goes back to school.

1415
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he'll be in consideration to have

1416
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: a chance to be a really high draft pick in

1417
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. That kid's really gotten a lot better

1418
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 2: since that first game at Georgia, and last year was

1419
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 2: pretty bumpy. I like kid club Nick a lot, and

1420
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 2: they had one of the great I think freshman recruiting

1421
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: classes at wide receiver in recent memory, those couple five

1422
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: star kids. But to me, Sark has had to coach

1423
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: around Quinn Yewers a lot of the year. And you

1424
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: see that when we talk about coaching with some of

1425
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 2: these young rookie quarterbacks. What do you call on third

1426
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 2: and seven? Or are you willing to call something aggressive

1427
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 2: on second and ten? Are you just trying to throw

1428
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: like a screen or you know, a draw play. I

1429
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 2: think he coaches around Quinn. You were because to me,

1430
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 2: he is a pretty big roller coaster. You don't know

1431
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 2: what you're getting series to series, and this is where

1432
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: you know the seeding. When Ohio State's on. I mean

1433
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: they showed up in that game, you went, holy hell,

1434
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: oh no. It was like they were hitting guys like

1435
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: they were you know, Dre Greenlawn and Fred Warner. It's

1436
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: like the defense, how good Jeremiah Smith is? Will Howard

1437
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: looked like Peyton Manning. I mean, he was one of

1438
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 2: the better games of his life. Yeah, and Ryan Day listen,

1439
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: they'd had a long time to soak up that loss

1440
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: coming at home. I listened. I picked Tennessee. Five minutes

1441
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: into that game, you went, this could be fifty to nothing.

1442
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 2: This team is going to try to injure everyone inside.

1443
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 2: Can they keep that up again again? You know, Dan Lanning,

1444
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 2: this is where Oregon got screwed. They have to play

1445
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 2: that team in their opening game after rose Ball two,

1446
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 2: which is not a huge advantage because it's not like

1447
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 2: Ohio State fans aren't used to travel into that game.

1448
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 2: Which is a cool game that the rose Ball gets Oregon.

1449
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: Ohio states that may record the ratings for that game

1450
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: may set a college football non national championship record. I'm

1451
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: not joking.

1452
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 2: I think if you're Oregon, you just go. We had

1453
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 2: the best season where the only undefeated team and Penn

1454
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,799
Speaker 2: State gets to play Boise and Texas gets the players

1455
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: on the state and we got to play that the

1456
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: biggest payroll in the history of college football with NFL

1457
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 2: guys all over that we had to like knock down,

1458
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: drag out to beat at home. That's that sucks for them. Yeah,

1459
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: you know a team that's never won a national championship

1460
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: that if I told you right now they were getting

1461
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 2: a good draw, you would like them a lot more.

1462
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: But you're like, damn they they'd have to go through

1463
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: three tough games, right, They'd have to beat Ohio State,

1464
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 2: they have to beat Texas and then they probably have

1465
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: to beat Penn State or Georgia. I mean, that's that's

1466
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 2: a murderer's row. So and they had to beat Penn State,

1467
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: you know, to in the conference championship. So I listen,

1468
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: if if Oregon were to win a national championship, it

1469
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: would be really really impressive. I can't take Texas because

1470
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: of the quarterback, but they're on the team. I mean,

1471
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: there were that goal line stopped that they had basically

1472
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: end of the game. Again, they can really rev it up.

1473
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: I mean they got guys on defense. You're like, holy shit,

1474
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: and you know the skill. Their two running backs are

1475
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 2: really good, I extent quarterback. If you told me Caide

1476
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: Club Nick Clemson quarterback was Texas quarterback, I'd be like,

1477
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: watch out for they might be my pick. And I

1478
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: just is Will Howard going to play like that every game?

1479
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: Is he going to play like that against Dan Lanning's

1480
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: defense is if he does, they'll probably win. Right. If

1481
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: he's gonna If he's going to be Peyton Manning junior,

1482
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: then Ohio State's going to be a serious problem for

1483
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: anyone they're playing.

1484
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,799
Speaker 1: Okay, let's wrap it up. Penn State minus eleven against

1485
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: Boise State. I actually think jenty run he ran for

1486
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: almost tuner yards against Oregon. I think these are neutral

1487
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: site games. Now it's a whole different ballgame in college football.

1488
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 2: Totally.

1489
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the college football team. You know, the seventy percent

1490
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 1: of NFL games are one score, one possession games. That's

1491
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: not college football. Home teams win. I think Boise State.

1492
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: I think Boise State is going to be you know,

1493
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: Penn State maybe lulled to sleep opening with SMU at

1494
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: home blowing them out, and now they look at see

1495
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: Boise State hard to get that locker room revved up.

1496
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: SMU is a bigger name to some of those Penn

1497
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: State players than Boise State. They couldn't, you know, they

1498
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: don't even know help. Most college players out east don't

1499
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: know much about Boise State. Can Boise State hang with them?

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01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: I think they can.

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01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: I do think Penn State's lucky that they got this

1502
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,560
Speaker 2: generational player on Boise State. It's an easy one for

1503
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator circle. I mean, this guy had like

1504
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: a Barry Sanders Oklahoma state level season. So it's to

1505
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 2: me if they were much more of like the Kellen Moore,

1506
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: more of a complete team than a one man band.

1507
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: I think it would be a little different. You might

1508
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: look down upon them, but I think when you're playing

1509
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: a guy that just sitting next to Travis Hunter on

1510
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 2: that Saturday night at the Heisman Trophy, it's easier to

1511
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: get up. I also think, and this is my argument,

1512
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: Like listen, I started my career in the Whack, whichasically

1513
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 2: turned it into the Mountain West. The difference of size

1514
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: and strength on the line of scrimmage. We saw it

1515
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,839
Speaker 2: in Indiana and SMU against You know, their two opponents

1516
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: at the Notre Dame and Penn State just overwhelmed them

1517
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage on defense. And I don't

1518
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: know if Boise State their passing offense isn't good enough.

1519
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: So I'm putting ten guys in the box be like

1520
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: we are you gonna throw on me? And I think

1521
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: it's a very, very tough matchup for Boise State. I

1522
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 2: also think Penn State if this was the NFL and

1523
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: these games were out in the cold weather, I think

1524
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: Penn State and Notre Dame would be built for it.

1525
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 2: Play defense, run the ball down your throat, play like

1526
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers did with Jimmy Garoppolo, We're just

1527
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 2: gonna freezing cold weather. Let's roll. I mean, you watch

1528
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. They would love every game at nineteen degrees

1529
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: because that's in same with Penn State, freezing cold, snow, rain,

1530
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 2: That's how they would want to play. That's where these

1531
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 2: neutral site games, you know. I think Notre Dame is

1532
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 2: a good example. Like I actually kind of like them

1533
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 2: against Georgia, but then you put the dome. But you

1534
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 2: put them in a dome, it does take away there. Straight.

1535
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: If you told me that game was outside in a

1536
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: cold weather spot, I'd be like, George is in for it.

1537
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: In a dome team speed. Georgia is gonna be a

1538
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: little faster, but Notre Dame can definitely win that game. Listen.

1539
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: I love Boise State and rooting for him for a

1540
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: long time. I think this is a really, really tough

1541
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 2: matchup for them. Same with a state.

1542
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think Penn State's gonna win. I think

1543
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 1: your point on Notre Dame Georgie is well taken. Texas

1544
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: should beat Arizona State. So I said before the year,

1545
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: I thought Oregon would beat Ohio State at auxon. I

1546
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: thought Ohio State would beat Oregon on the second matchup,

1547
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: I think I like Ohio State to win and cover

1548
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: against the Ducks.

1549
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: I think one big difference between Penn State, Georgia, and

1550
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: Notre Dame then the other three top teams in Texas, Oregon,

1551
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State. They are so explosive on the outside, like

1552
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 2: they feel like an NFL team at wide receiver in

1553
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 2: the skill position. Penn State and Notre Dame just don't.

1554
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: Penn State's tight end is gonna be a top twenty player, yeah,

1555
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 2: but they are not as explosive at the wide receiver position.

1556
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: So I mean, like you said, I think Oregon, Ohio State,

1557
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 2: I mean that could feel like the national championship game.

1558
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 2: And I think Texas, if the quarterback can just play

1559
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: under control, which he's proven he can't really for four quarters,

1560
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: they could be pretty I just don't trust them and

1561
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 2: Notre Dame Georgia, whoever wins that game, might be. Honestly,

1562
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 2: I kind of like the draw for Penn State. Penn

1563
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 2: State plays Boise, wins that game and then plays that

1564
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: Penn State and Texas are gonna get putent. I mean,

1565
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 2: their enormous favorites favorites in the second round are gonna

1566
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 2: be playing two teams that are gonna be coming out

1567
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: of a war zone. I mean Ohio State and Oregon

1568
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame in Georgia. Bodies are gonna be left

1569
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 2: on the field in that game, right, So I think

1570
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 2: that is a massive advantage if both those If Texas

1571
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 2: and Penn State take care of business. I mean Ohio

1572
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 2: State pulled out their quarterback with nine minutes to go

1573
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 2: in the game.

1574
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what we're going to see in this playoff,

1575
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: and let's go back to the playoff as a whole,

1576
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: is I think it's going to expand to fourteen teams

1577
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: and possibly sixteen. On any given Saturday, you may get

1578
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: three really great games between good teams. There's a lot

1579
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 1: of blowouts in college football. It's just the way the

1580
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: sport works. It's of all the American sports team sports,

1581
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,879
Speaker 1: it's the most have and have not sport, even you know, baseball.

1582
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: Obviously now with the regional network's dying, it's getting more

1583
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 1: have and have not. There's like six teams that have

1584
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: money and like twenty six or twenty four that don't.

1585
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: But I think the neutral site games, I think Oregon

1586
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: and Ohio State is going to feel like USC Texas.

1587
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 1: Remember that game with the stealth fighters flying over where

1588
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: you have like eighteen pros. The first game was great.

1589
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: I think Ohio State Oregon becomes the game of the year.

1590
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 1: I also think it is hard to play perfect football

1591
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: back to back weeks. Ohio State was nearly perfect. It's

1592
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: hard to duplicate that on back to back weeks.

1593
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: I also think that these guys have never played a

1594
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: season this long, right, I mean, a lot of these

1595
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 2: teams played in conference championship games. Some of the teams

1596
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 2: that didn't just play this first round. I mean you

1597
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 2: start looking ahead, they still got three more games. I mean,

1598
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 2: and you saw some just collateral damage, as you know,

1599
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 2: notre Dame at defensive lineman get banged up. You're talking

1600
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: about by the time you get to the semi finals,

1601
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 2: can you stay healthy enough, which which honestly could just

1602
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 2: be a determining factor for whoever wins it just a

1603
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: team with the most health because we've been hammering at

1604
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 2: home and these coaches have been these teams. The depth

1605
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: isn't near the same, you know, in the peak of

1606
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: the saban Era. So what I lost a first rounder,

1607
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: I got a nineteen year old first rounder behind them? Right,

1608
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 2: those days are done. I mean there's a massive drop off.

1609
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 2: Some of these teams are losing guys. Ohio State put

1610
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 2: a quarterback in the game when the yank Well Howard,

1611
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 2: he's in the transfer portal, and Ryan Day had to

1612
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: have a talk with this team like, hey, guys, are

1613
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 2: we cool with keeping him around? You know the cause

1614
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 2: these guys are in weird spots. Penn State's backup quarterback

1615
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 2: is gone, so and that's not obviously we talk a

1616
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: lot about the quarterbacks, but it could be you know,

1617
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 2: a backup linebacker, a freshman kid that might have had

1618
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 2: to be thrust in if someone got injured. So we

1619
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: got a long way to go. I mean, this is

1620
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 2: you see the NFL guys are dropping like flies in college.

1621
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 2: These guys aren't as big. They're not especially some of

1622
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: these guys at eighteen nineteen years old that are playing.

1623
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 2: Their bodies aren't as developed taking a lot of big hits.

1624
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 2: It's not like the violence in these games. It's that

1625
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: much different. I mean, how hard was Ohio State and

1626
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: No Dame and these teams hidden the physicality And honestly,

1627
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate the one thing that jumped out to me

1628
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 2: about this weekend, which was obviously a pretty big letdown

1629
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: with the blowouts. Yeah, we talk about a lot about

1630
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 2: nil and people not having It feels like guys are

1631
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 2: mercenaries now, and maybe that's the case, but it does

1632
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 2: feel like the guys playing in the game are just

1633
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 2: all in and trying their one effort and you feel that,

1634
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,560
Speaker 2: you know, the teams is not like ten. None of

1635
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: these teams took their foot off the pedal like pen

1636
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 2: Clemson just came back because they got NFL guys. It

1637
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 2: wasn't like Texas stuff trying right.

1638
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff his podcast is three and out.

1639
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 2: Good job Buddy, Merry Christmas, going Merry Christmas.

1640
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Speaker 1: The volume