WEBVTT - Caroline Manzo's Confession PLUS Jacqueline Laurita's Statement 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:06.280 Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King, 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.240 the King of Reality TV and one of the most 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:13.880 sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:18.040 years of production experience. Once a week from Reality with 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.479 the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:25.919 entertainment industry recap our favorite reality shows. Every visit unforgettable 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:33.840 moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. 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We have to talk about breaking news of Real 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:11.120 Housewives of New Jersey, Caroline Manzo saying that she allegedly 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:15.920 knows who called the FEDS on Joe and Teresa. 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:16.640 So make sure you. 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.480 Stay tuned so that Dave and I can talk about that. 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:24.160 In addition to I have a statement. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.800 From Jaqueline Loreta about what. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.280 Was said on this podcast that I'm going to read 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.280 live to Dave Quinn and we're going to dissect that. 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.280 But first thing's first, Dave Quinn, we got to talk 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:40.200 about it Real Housewives of New York City reboot and 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.280 the trailer. Now, I'm going to be very honest. When 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:49.280 I heard about the reboot, I was like, when I 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:54.480 saw the cast, I was like, when I saw the 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:59.480 little promo of the app, I'm like, where is Ramona? 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:00.560 But you need her? 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:08.120 But then I saw the super trailer, and baby, I 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.480 think we may be in store for what looks like 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:13.519 a fascinating season. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.880 But Dave, let's talk about the Real Housewives of New York. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.360 City reboot and what was your thoughts when you saw 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.480 the trailer that you posted. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:25.919 I do feel like there was a lot of clever 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.800 stitching in that trailer to make things seem a little 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.600 bit more dramatic than perhaps they really are. However, I 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.240 don't need drama, and I was saying this, you know, 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:40.760 I think that the show has fallen into this trap 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.040 of having to give us some sort of explosive like 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.959 your husband's cheating or you were you know. Even they 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.040 have this moment in the trailer of like, you're flirting 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.120 with a married man. I do. I don't really care 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.400 about that. That's not what I'm looking for in housewives. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.799 I want to go back to the nonsense. I want 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.239 to go back to the silly, petty little you didn't 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.160 invite me to a party and I'm mad at you 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.840 for it, or you know, I don't like the way 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.480 you spoke to me and that little thing about nothing. 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.000 So the thing about the trailer that made me excited 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:16.160 was when they were like accusing Jenna of not wanting 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.040 to go on the trip because she had to fly coach. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.040 I was like, yes, that is petty, that is silly, 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.880 that is stupid. That's what watched on to that, and 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.920 I'm really excited about it. All the other stuff I 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.640 don't need. So I liked what I was getting from 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:31.720 that silliness. 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.360 Yes, no, I'll agree with you. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:37.760 Because I had very low expectations for this Real Housewives 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.040 of New York City reboot. I was pleasantly surprised that 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:46.160 it seemed like, Okay, they have personality, there's personal story 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.360 going on, right, and just the family life that I 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:54.120 felt like was always missing from reality television, especially the 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:55.880 New Housewives. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:56.160 You know. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.120 So when I saw that personal story was happening on 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:00.240 the reboot. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.240 And the fashion was fashioning. 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:06.000 I was like, Okay, this could be something. But people 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:10.240 are saying this though, Dave. Due to a lot of 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:15.640 people's excitement about the trailer, they're now asking should every 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:20.400 city that's in trouble have a reboot to where they 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.400 wipe out the cast and have a fresh new group 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:24.839 of women. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.159 Absolutely not. And in fact, one of the things that 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.640 I really learned when I was writing the book was 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.359 that early on that was a thought process when it 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.640 came to Housewives. When they were starting to build it, 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.480 they thought, well, we'll do it like the real world. 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.560 So we'll have the New York season with these women, 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:42.599 and then next season we'll bring back a totally different 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.080 group of women and do it again. I'm glad they 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.520 didn't do that. I like the longevity. I want to 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.640 know who these people are. I still think that the 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.599 reboot of New York City was a mistake. I just 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:56.800 don't see looking at Gena Alliance. Why can't I see 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:01.640 Gena Alliance with Luan like and Derinda, and I think 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.000 it was the nature of what was happening in the world. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.000 People were losing their minds stuck at home. I think 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:12.440 the network hastily reacted to outrage that didn't really exist 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:16.160 from the voices of a few and not the viewers 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.040 of many. And I think that there was still fixing it. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.400 I think that, you know, they may have been angry 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.840 at things that were happening behind the scenes and just 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.320 didn't want to deal with it and rushed into this. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:32.920 But decisions were made far too quick. Ebany Is I 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.279 still think a very great housewife, but she shouldn't have 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.400 been the only one that season. They should have brought 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.000 in three or four other women, you know, and it 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.560 should have been a gradual switchover. And New York has 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.039 made these hasty decisions in the past. We all saw 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.719 what happened with season four, the reckoning, and it doesn't 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:54.520 always dreadful. How dreadful so I don't know. I wish 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.480 I want the more investment in the new women, and 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.600 in order to do that, I think we need to 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.160 see them mixed with the old. I'm excited about some 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.280 of these ladies, but I can't imagine that everyone is 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:12.360 a star. I mean, and I say that kindly. It's 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.680 just the way it works, right, Like they're not all stars. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.120 Well, look, I think we have to wait and see. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:24.040 Because I said this on my podcast, I am going 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.479 to watch the first episode. I'm committed to watching the 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.000 first episode. I cannot promise I'm going to watch the 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:31.840 entire season. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.560 And the example that I'll give is. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.680 I watched the first episode of the Real Housewives of 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.680 Dubai and I went bye bye. It wasn't that the 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:45.560 first episode wasn't great. I watched the first episode of 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.680 the Real Housewives of Dubai and I remember saying to 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.760 my boyfriend like, oh, I like. 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.640 Them, okay, And then. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:58.200 The second episode I forgot to watch. And because I 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.240 wasn't invested in these new women from this big brand, 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.760 I did not care to return. I am invested in 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.720 what I know. So when you create a whole new cast, 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.880 is not that these women aren't stars or our stars, 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.600 it's just more so, do I care to invest my 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:21.080 time and a whole new group of women for twelve 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:22.760 weeks of my life? 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.400 Listen, there's a plethora of television to go in with, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:30.080 and a plethora of housewives. We are oversaturated at the moment, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.160 I didn't feel the same way about Dubai. I was 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.440 shout out Emmy winner Glenda Cox her editing on that 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:41.040 first season, especially that first episode felt so rich and exciting, 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.960 and I was really drawn in. I do think that 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:48.600 history will show that Dubai is much more Potomac than 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.080 it is Dallas, and we will look back at Dubai 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.960 season one and it will feel like Botomac season one. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.600 I do think that there's lots of stars in that 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.400 cast that will carry us through, and I've heard the 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.920 next season is delightful in New York. I'm excited to 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.880 invest in some of these women. Bren for me, feels 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.720 like a star. Side for me feels like a star. 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.120 Jenna is going to be, of course interesting to watch. 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.400 I kind of been looking forward to seeing what the 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.560 dynamics are. But would I be surprised if season fifteen 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.880 introduces some of our familiar faces back into the mix. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.200 No, I never thought about that, Like, if. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.640 This doesn't do well, let's say that it's not really clicking, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.920 and let's say Legacy does really well, why wouldn't they 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.960 bring Luanne on the show and Derinda and possibly Ramona 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.840 Sonya like, why wouldn't those that core four if you will, 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.000 they all kind of seem like they would fit in. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.960 Well, oh, absolutely no, And I think it's a genius 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.160 idea of that happens. And again, when I heard about 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.120 the announcement, I had Ebony as my first guest on 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.280 this very podcast, and I said to her, I think 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.679 the reboots should be on Peacock and the Legacy should 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.920 be on Bravo because we're in invested and Peacock is 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.839 not a disc Real Housewives of Miami. In my opinion, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.160 it's successful because, yes, the show is good in the cast, 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.440 it's tens across the board, but I think the show 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.720 being on Peacock did not allow it to have the 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:19.160 same pressures as the other housewives on Bravo. 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.439 And I think the New York reboots should have been on. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:26.320 Peacock to give it that same sort of setup, because look, 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.680 New York is going to come on after the Real 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.120 Housewives of Atlanta. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.600 That's big. That is big. They've never been on Sunday 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.880 nights like this. No, that's huge. 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:42.680 It's huge, but also very risky, yeah, because I don't 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:46.280 think the Atlanta audience is also the New York audience. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:51.480 But depending on the direction of this cast, we shall see. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.880 But rain drops, let me know if. 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.480 You're into or not into the reboot of the Real 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.440 Housewives in New York City. Me and Dave were gonna 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.160 watch it, and Dave, I'm putting on the spot. I'm 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.360 going to invite you back on the show so that 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.080 you and I can recap the first episode. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.240 Yes, started spreading the news. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.480 I'll be there, honey, the Real Housewives of New York 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:18.160 City Legacy being the fifth installment of Ultimate Girls Trip. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.480 I peed my pants. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:25.720 I did a cartwell, I was so excited. Still am 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:32.240 we're talking about Ramona Singer, Kelly ben Simone, leu Ane, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.600 Kristen Sonya. 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.040 That's it, right, am? I missing Anybodynda A. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:44.200 Plus A plus A plus A plus A plus. I 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.440 love Kelly Bensimone. I fell in love with her when 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.120 she was jogging down Central Park Avenue in her set 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.960 up scene to her intro card. I'm looking forward to 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.439 seeing this cast. I think it's a genius idea. But 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.600 you brought the news, so tell us all about it. 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.439 Well, it's really exciting. You know, it's been very well 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.439 publicized that they were trying to do this legacy show 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.960 that would have been a little bit more substantial that 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.480 we would have seen sort of a longer mix. And Jill, 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.920 if you remember, there was Jill Zaren was supposed to 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.400 be in that mix, and that really all fell apart 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:23.720 during discussions and negotiations of contracts, and it was very public. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:28.360 I mean, everybody talked about it on that cast pretty 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.880 much in a public manner. And I think this is 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.600 the better choice because the truth is, this is what 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.160 I want to see, and I want Ramona in the mix. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.280 Even if I don't like her. I want Ramona in 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:40.880 the mix. You know. If I'm like watching as a 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.640 viewer and there are things that she's saying that I 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.640 find annoying, I still want to see her. I still 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.520 feel like she's part of the mix, and I think 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:53.480 this will work much better as a viewing experience. I certainly, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.760 as you may know, I was on tour with the women, 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.800 as you said earlier, and they were all talking about 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.120 it before the news had been announced. They were all 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.720 planning what they were going to wear to upfronts and 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.680 how they were going to handle it. They were all 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:11.560 discussing their feelings about, you know, seeing some old faces 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:12.920 that they hadn't seen in a while. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:19.160 Christen Takeman, who allegedly Ramona doesn't remember. I continue, I. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:23.520 Know, I'm obsessed with that, but you know, and I 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.920 could see what it could what it's going to be like, 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:27.360 you know, I could see it in there. I was 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.520 saying to them, well, we have to see the pirate, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.520 don't you think And they were like, oh, I wonder 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.520 if the pirate will come back? And I was like, 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.000 and the viewers are going to want this, don't you think. 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.080 You know, Like I said to Ramona, well, surely Kristen's 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:40.680 going to talk about the fact that you threw a 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.400 glass at her. She's like, no, yeah, she's not going 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:47.120 to bring that up. I was like, yeah, she like, 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.680 that's we're going to talk about that. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:52.240 Absolutely. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:53.160 We want to see it. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:53.760 Absolutely. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:55.680 But you know, there were a lot of names in 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.000 the mix of who could have been invited to this trip, 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:02.400 and I think it's interesting why others said no like that. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:03.679 That's fascinating to me. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.080 Question for you because you and I both know when 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:12.319 it comes to Bravo's best to say nothing. 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:14.360 That's true. 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:20.319 Versus her opinion out there. At times, Me and Dave 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:25.840 know that personally. So, Jill Zaren went on a radio 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:31.360 show and pretty much revealed that she wanted to make 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.160 sure that every cast member got paid the same amount 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.280 of money. We called that in the business Favorite Nations, 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.280 everybody makes the same money. She felt that I don't 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:41.760 care if I wasn't on the show, as long as 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.640 Ramona I deserve the same amount as Ramona. We now 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.840 see that Jill Zaren is not going to be on 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.679 this Ultimate Girls Trip. Was she asked back or did 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:53.679 she turn it down? 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.679 From what I understand, she wasn't asked. I don't work 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.959 for Bravo, just to be clear, but that's what I 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.560 understand that she was not asked for. This is what 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:02.960 I've heard. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.199 Yeah, do you think it has to do with her 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.640 revealing too much information about the financials of the business 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:09.120 and the deal? 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:15.240 Yeah, And again no one said that to me directly, 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:20.880 but yeah, no, my dog is sparking. Even my dog agrees. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:25.360 My dog is like yeah, yeah. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.640 And for the record, I met jills are Did I 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:29.400 tell you the story? 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:30.120 Day? 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.640 I was up doing Heather McDonald's live show in New 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:38.280 York City doing Bravo con and I Jill Zarren came 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.840 backstage because she knows Heather McDonald And Heather said, this 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:47.920 is Carlos King and she said, oh, you're Carlos King. 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.720 And I said, does that mean something? She said, oh, yes, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:59.800 it does day she was listen. She was so nice. 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.280 He daughter was there with her man, her Doggie was 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:06.360 I mean, Jill's beautiful. She was so sweet and I 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.119 was like you and she said should. 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:08.880 I do legacy? 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.400 And I said, bitch, apps a fucking literly you should 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:15.640 do legacy like duh. But anyways, I sell that to say. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.760 When she said, oh, you're Carlos King, it made me think, 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.360 I said, I wonder if she knows who I am. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.480 Primarily because of my interview with Ramona. 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.320 Oh, that could be it where Ramona. 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.120 Said to me and my exclusive with her that she 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:38.200 was not interested in doing legacy because she called it 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:39.200 the loser show. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:42.720 Andy, it may. 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.240 Oh that made some headlines. I think I may have 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:47.440 written one of those headlines. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.480 I was gonna say. I think people Vaccine may have 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:51.240 had the exclusive. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:57.040 Sure it's a good quote, Ramona. She's a quote machine. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:58.760 Oh so much so. 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:02.640 Andy Comer review his book that what he heard or 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.360 called the show loser legacy. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:11.280 He wasn't too happy about it. Now I've said publicly 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:16.440 there is no Ronie without Ramona, and I'm happy that 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.200 everybody has seen that it is true. 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:23.640 Even you said it. Whatever happens, it happened. You need Ramona. 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:29.800 Do you think it's fair that Ramona is back on 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:34.480 the show when some people are saying she's problematic? You know, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:39.440 Ebani has alleged a few things about her on her podcast. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.520 Ramona addressed that on my podcast. We don't have to 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.600 get into it. Just listen to my episode with Ramona. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.520 But do you think all of that take into account? 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.840 Should Romona be back on Legacy? 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.480 I take it all into account. I understand the feelings 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.000 about it all. And again, there are things that have 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.520 been alleged about her that are really difficult for anyone 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.600 I think to wrap their head around. But I don't 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.520 need to look into a mirror when I watch reality TV. 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.199 I prefer to look into a window. I want to 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.119 see things that are not in my life and that 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.359 are not reflections of who I am. I want to 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:23.160 see different things, So I don't need to condone her 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.840 beliefs in life. I just want to see what she's doing. 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:31.959 Yeah, and for the record, an investigation was launch and 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:35.960 they found nothing. That's not my opinion, it's not your opinion. 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:41.200 That's the fact. And again it's just what was uncovered 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:47.000 due to an investigation being launched and apparently nothing was 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.160 found it. So with that being said, if you do 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:54.720 an investigation nothing came out of it, then in my opinion, 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:56.959 you should be able to move on and move forward. 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.919 And I think Ebony and Ramona have both moved forward 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.880 in their lives and I'm just saying, to see Ramona 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.520 back in the mix with these ladies excites me. And 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.520 that is why I am going to watch every single 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:15.080 episode because if we're going to get Scary Island two 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:20.320 point zero, baby, that's what I'm here for. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.879 I'm excited about it. I will say, though, I really 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.720 do wish Jill was a part of it. And yeah, 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.160 I think that Jill is incredible television. I think that 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:35.280 she again, we all remember season one, two, three, four Jill, 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.600 and that's what we're thinking of when we're talking about Jill, 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.440 and that's what I want to see. I want to 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.879 see sort of her in the mix with those ladies, 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.960 those old relationships. Ramona crying on the bed in Morocco 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.280 after they got into a fight, right, Like, there's history there. Yeah, 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:55.360 and we haven't really seen the Ramona Luine Jill Trifecta relationship. 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.760 Explored that I know they were all living for a 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.159 time in New York, either in the same building or 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.120 right around one another, and there's a lot that I'm 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:08.440 interested in. But you know, I do think that Jill's 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:16.120 conversations about the financial negotiations that the network would much 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:20.320 prefer to keep private was her downfall in that situation. 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.920 And again, I'm just guessing this, but I don't even 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:29.320 necessarily think that her financial negotiations were the reason Legacy 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.439 fell apart. I just think they don't like that she 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:33.800 was saying that it was the reason Legacy fell apart. 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.160 A great yeah, Like, I think that there was probably 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.760 way bigger reasons that Legacy fell apart than you and 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.119 I will ever know about. But I don't think it 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.600 was a good idea for her to go and spill 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.600 that information. And look, she's doing great. She has another 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.960 reality show coming that she's going to be on, The 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:53.080 Goat Show and they're looking for the greatest reality show 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.960 star of all time, and she's in the mix of competitors. 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.200 It's a competitive reality show. 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:04.160 Okay, Jill, listen Amazon freeby is great. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:05.520 I love Jeff Lewis Show. 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:10.239 Right, you will always be known as a housewife, and 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.680 if you want to have staying power in this unscripted business. 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.120 You have to know that what Dave just says so. 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.880 Eloquently, you should have thought about the bigger picture. 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.920 Of the world seeing you and Ramona and Luan. 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:29.679 Back together and what that could have done for your bookings, 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.960 what it could have done for your businesses, because even 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:36.480 seeing you on season two of Ultimate Girls Trip Jill 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.880 and the worst of Kim Kardashing to Courtney krk Dashing 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:43.840 and Barker, you were the least exciting to look at 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:48.879 and to me, that installment did nothing for you. It 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:53.600 did nothing for you, but this could have. So I'm 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:57.760 a little disappointed that you decided to go on Jeff 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.439 Lewis Show, spill all the tea, honey, and then not 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.200 be invited back to a home that I would say 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:04.960 you helped build. 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.680 I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more. 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:20.280 We'll be right back after these quick ads. This is 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.640 reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:25.040 back into the show. 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:31.160 All right, so the moment you've been waiting for breaking news. 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.040 My heart has been beating out of my chest since 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:33.560 you said that. 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:39.159 By the way, Real Housewives of New Jersey alum Caroline 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.800 and her daughter Lauren mans Hey Lauren, they were at 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:46.280 an event where they were speaking on a panel and 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:51.520 Caroline alleged that she is not the one who called 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:56.080 the FBI on Teresa and Joe, but she knows who did, 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.919 and that the reason why she's not going to reveal 0:21:59.920 --> 0:22:04.800 it is because she's not a rat and that she 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:10.439 refuses to ever talk about it mention the names. But 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:13.359 she wanted to set the record strate that it was 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:19.479 not her. Dave Quinn, what are your thoughts on him? 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:25.399 Because people are saying, okay, was it allegedly Teresa's brother 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:31.120 and sister in law? Was it allegedly a man's old person. 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:35.960 Was it somebody in the neighborhood. Was it somebody at 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:39.639 GSO dance school? A pageant? 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:41.600