1 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: Breaking news. In the last hours, we learn the cause 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: of death in the death of insta influencer Alexis Sharkey. 3 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at KHOU. Her mom 4 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: was adamant from the beginning, telling Kate Sho you went December. 5 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: She believes her twenty six year old daughter was murdered, 6 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: but I do know it was not an accident, and 7 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: now we know the truth the Harris Counting Medical Examiner 8 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: officially ruling her cause of death as strangulation and the 9 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: manner homicide. Friend Laura Norlan Martin, who met Sharkey through 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: money the beauty product company they work for, says, I 11 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: think this news we all kind of knew, but this 12 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: just made it that much more real. I'm angry and 13 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: sad all over again, but ready for justice to be 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: served for our friend. This is what we know. The 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: cause of death has been established as homicide, with me 16 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: an all star panel to make sense of it. First 17 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: of all, out of la veteran trial lawyer Troy Slayton. 18 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: You can find him at Troy Slayton on Twitter. Doctor 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Gardier were now clinical psychologist Professor of Behavioral Medicine 20 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: at TRURO at Doctor Jeff Gardeer dot com. He is 21 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: the author of the Causes of Autism with Me, Death Investigator, 22 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: Professor Forensics Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My 23 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Feet on Amazon, and star of a new hit series, 24 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: Poisonous Liaisons on the True Crime Network. Joseph Scott Morgan, 25 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: but straight out to lead reporter with Wdbo Ray Caputo Ray. 26 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: It's been a long time coming. The cause of death 27 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: for Alexis Sharkey, just twenty six years old, found naked 28 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: throne on the side of a Houston suburban road, a 29 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: very obscure road, I might add, tell me when did 30 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: this come out? And what have we learned so far 31 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: about the cod cause of death. Well, it is labeled 32 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: the homicide, but this has done a very very mysterious 33 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: type of story from the start that nobody knew how 34 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: this woman died. But yeah, right now, with the cause 35 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: of desert is illegal to homicide. Well, we've got cause 36 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: of death and manner of death to you, Joe Scott Morgan. 37 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: I understand asphyxiation has been mentioned to explain the difference 38 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: between cause of death and manner of death. Yeah, well 39 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: with cause of death, Nancy, that's the specific causal factor 40 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: that brings about one's death manner of death. There's only 41 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: five of those. That's literally the classification. Just imagine a 42 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: gigantic umbrella made up of suicide, homicide, natural accident undetermined, 43 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: and the cause fit beneath that umbrella. And in this 44 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: case we have a homicide and underneath that they've listed 45 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: this cause of death as a strangulation. Now you know, 46 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: strange relation, right, right, Let's just be clear, Detroit Laate 47 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: and criminal defense attorney, there's a big difference when you 48 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: say COD cause of death and MD manner of death. 49 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 1: So the cause of death is Joe Scott Morgan pointed out, 50 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: is the actual physical physiological cause of death in this 51 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: case asphyxiation manner of death. For instance, with children, baby's infants, 52 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: there's positional asphyxiation where they fall asleep in their car 53 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: seat and their head tilts down and because of their 54 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: position they asphyxiate. That would be more of an accident 55 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: in many cases. In this case it's homicide bi asphyxiation. 56 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: Explain from a legal sense what Joe Scott Morgan, what 57 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: he just said means. It means that somebody put their 58 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: hands on her neck and squeezed until she was dead. 59 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: And so that means that there is a person that 60 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: caused her death. This was not an accident, Nancy, and 61 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: so whoever did this is at large. You know, I 62 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: started to correct you choice Lytton, but you're absolutely correct 63 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: because when you said somebody put their hands on her neck, 64 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: that would indicate a manual strangulation. Very often you will 65 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: see bruising, redness marks on the neck with a man 66 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: in the eyes. Yes, But when her body was found, 67 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: there was no sign, no visual sign of cause of death. 68 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 1: So in my mind, that definitely ruled out ligature strangulation. 69 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: With a ligature strangulation, you have very deep bruising when 70 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: a ligature like a rope or a pantyhose or something 71 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: is used to strangle someone. With manual you may even 72 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: see bruising that looks like fingertips or scratching. But when 73 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: you said asphyxiation, I think you're right, Troy Slayton, Jessica Morgan. 74 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: With asphyxiation such as smothering someone, there would not be 75 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: any markings on the neck. Agree, disagree? Yes, I agree, 76 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: So we hear asphyxiation. Do you believe, Jessica Morgan, manual 77 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: ligature or suffocation. I think that this is probably going 78 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: to wind up being a manual strangulation, Nancy. That's just 79 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: my belief at this point in time. You would have 80 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: to go some distance to have an individual that was 81 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: asphyxiated safe, for instance, with a pillow, which is something 82 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: that's you know, this's portrayed movies, and that's sort of 83 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: thing all the time in my experience, when you have 84 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: someone who dies as a result of asphyxiation, most of 85 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: the time it's going to be a very personal Now 86 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: we can rule out I think at this point a 87 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: ligature like a rope or a wire or something like that. 88 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh Man, Joe Scott, A ligature strangulation. I've had ligature 89 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: strangulation cases. For the neck is three and a half 90 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: four inches in diameter. After a very violent ligature strangulation, 91 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: the neck is actually I don't even know how that happens, 92 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: is strangled so tightly. It's the size of a little 93 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: more than a grapefruit. Yea, Yeah, diameter, horrible markings on 94 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: ligature strangulation, and for so many people that came in 95 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: contact with her body, they're naked on the side of 96 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: the road, which naked in itself, suggests she didn't commit 97 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: suicide or have an accident on the side of the 98 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: road alone. But they didn't mention anything about markings on 99 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: her neck. No, they didn't. And you know, one of 100 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: the things you have to think about, Nancy, with this 101 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: particular case, we've got a vulnerable woman. Obviously she's completely nude. 102 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what position she was in prior to death. Okay, like, 103 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: was she taken out and kind of you know, had 104 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: her clothes removed, that sort of thing. She was very 105 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: vulnerable and we don't know physically how vulnerable she is. 106 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't require a tremendous amount of pressure on the 107 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: neck with bare hands, for instance, to occlude the airway 108 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: to stop breathing. And also the uptake of blood to 109 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: the brain. You can't forget about that in a strangulation. 110 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: It's not just the cutting off of the airway. It's 111 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: also this fact that you're going into where the caroated 112 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: vessels are that supply the oxygenated blood to the brain, 113 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: and just the slightest bit of pressure for just two 114 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: to three minutes can cause death. So you're not necessarily 115 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: going to see anything externally. You might see injuries, though 116 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: would be on the backside of the hands perpetrator, because 117 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: you'll get claw marks, fingernail marks, that sort of thing 118 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: many times, and it makes it even more difficult if 119 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: the p is coming up to the victim from behind. 120 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: If the purpose in front of the victim, the victim 121 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: can kick, can nee somebody, and the growing can do 122 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: all sorts of self defense maneuvers. But if the purpose 123 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: coming up from behind, there's going to be a lot 124 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: less the victim can do. Hence a lot less physical 125 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: evidence left on the body. Straight out to doctor Jeff Gardier, 126 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: board certified clinical psychologists, renowned psychologists, a professor behavioral Medicine 127 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: at TURO, doctor Jeff Joe Scott mentioned something that I 128 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: find very very important. I've referred to this type of 129 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: a killing as a kind to a stabbing as in 130 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: a Jodi Aria's case, to a sweetheart murder. Not that 131 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: there's any love loss, but it's an intimate killing that 132 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: gives me an idea of who may have done it. 133 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: Explain why this is unlike a shooting at thirty paces, 134 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: for instance. Well, first of all, the fact that she 135 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: was found nude certainly talks about that there was a 136 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: proximity between herself and whomever the purpose itself, you have 137 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: to be close, yes, absolutely, and therefore this may be 138 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: most likely someone that she knew. Remember, this was an influencer, 139 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: a woman who was extremely smart, but she was also 140 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: exposed to many different people. And of course we always 141 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: look at Nancy through the years that you and I 142 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: have been together, we look within the inner circle because 143 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: that's where there is most likely some sort of absolutely 144 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about 145 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: the breaking knees as it relates to insta influencer. Twenty 146 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: six year old Alexis Sharkey take a listen right now 147 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: to our friends Stephen or Remo, ABC thirteen, Houston. Alexis 148 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: Sharky disappeared right after Thanksgiving. A city worker then found 149 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: her boy near the Katie Freeway, but there were no 150 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: visible wounds, making her cause of death a mystery. It 151 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: was a City of Houston public service they were driving 152 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: by and they saw the feet of female in the bushes. 153 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: At the time, police weren't even able to confirm whether 154 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: she'd been murdered. Living your worst nightmare ever. But from 155 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: the time Alexie's body was found friends and family, including 156 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: her mom Stacy Robinot, told us they believed Lexi was murdered, 157 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: and today we learned they were right. I looked at 158 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: her and I was like, she's petrified. This girl is 159 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: scared for her life. The medical examiner determining she was strangled. 160 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: If the medical examiner says strangled, they're being very exact 161 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: in their wording. Straight back out to Ray Kaputo, lead 162 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: anchor W. Dbo Ray, It's not just simply asphyxiation, which 163 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: could be any number of modes of killing, ligature, manual suffocation, 164 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: even lack of oxygen. Strangulation is a whole another animal. 165 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: And all my years prosecuting and covering crimes strangulation, you 166 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: are looking your victim in the face typically as you 167 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: strangle them. It is mortal combat. They had to find 168 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: something on her neck, on her body, not just hemorrhaged 169 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: PARTICULARI in the eyes where the blood vessels pop due 170 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: to lack of oxygen. You have to look at that 171 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: under a microscope to see it. That's done during autopsy. 172 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: But there had to be something, some evidence regarding her net, 173 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: collar bone, or spine to tell them she was in 174 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: fact strangled, not smothered, not deprived of oxygen, but strangled. 175 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: What more do we know, Ray Kipputo, lead news anchor 176 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: Orlando News WDBO Ray, Well, along Nancy, we know that 177 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: also the way, the way her body was silent. Not 178 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: only was she strangled, she was thrown and through bushes 179 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: like a piece of garbage. And it wasn't until the 180 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: day later that someone actually found herself whoever had done 181 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: this to her Nancy not only strangled her, but but 182 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: clearly this discarded her like a piece of trash. And 183 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: it's just a climb of hate, you know, it really 184 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: is to leave her discarded in that manner like trash 185 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: on the side of the road, completely naked, to be 186 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: found that way. As a matter of fact, how did 187 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: the whole thing start? Take a list to our francy 188 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: at kho U TV eleven use. The police are investigating 189 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: the dust of a woman whose nude body was found 190 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: on the side of the road. Police say a public 191 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: works employee discovered the body off Red Hall Lane near 192 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: I ten at about eight o'clock this morning. They say 193 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: she had no visible injuries. The medical examiner will determine 194 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: a cause of death and ID. The victim is described 195 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: as a white woman in her early twenties. If you 196 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: know anything about this, you're asked to please call HPD 197 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: Homicide or crime stoppers. Right there. We believe that she 198 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: was dumped there. It's not as if she were hitch 199 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: high king got picked up and immediately murdered, dumped, dumped. 200 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: Alexis Sharkey's autopsy shows the twenty six year old have 201 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: been strangled dead, her body dumped on the side of 202 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: a Texas road. Ray Kiputer tell me about the area 203 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: where she was dumped. Well, this was an area of Houston. 204 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: It was I believe it wasn't terribly far from where 205 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: she's at. Nan say, I don't have that exactly. Well, 206 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: you're right about not being far from her apartment, not 207 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: being far from her apartment at all. Let me stop. 208 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: You're right there, and that is significant. Troy Slayton, criminal 209 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: defense attorney joining me out of La veteran trial lawyer. 210 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: I know you may disagree with me on my comparison, 211 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: but I know you recall Robert Blake, the famous actor, 212 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: and his wife Bunny Lee Bakeley, was shot dead sitting 213 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: in his car. Blake's car they had been out to 214 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: an Italian dinner. For some reason that night, as opposed 215 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: to all other nights, he went instead of parking at 216 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: the open parking spot right by the door in the front, 217 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: parked in the back and an alley. He walked her 218 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: to the car and according to him, came back him 219 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: because he forgot his gun. Then he says, when he 220 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: goes back to the car, she's dead. Found in a dumpster. 221 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: I think about a block away was the murder weapon? 222 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: What does that tell me? That tells me the person 223 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: that killed Bonnie Lee Bakeley could not leave the area. 224 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: They had to dispose of the gun right there on 225 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: top of where the murder was committed. Here go with me, 226 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: Troice Layton. We find her body a stone's throw from 227 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: her apartment. Now, let me just say any According to 228 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: the husband, forty nine year old Tom Sharkey, she left 229 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: the apartment. He told her not to drive, having been drinking, 230 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: and he did not see her again. She left anyway, 231 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: She went out into the parking lot while she going 232 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: for her car, while she attacked in the parking lot. 233 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: I know this, Troice Layton. Her body was found not 234 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: too far from their apartment. What does that tell you? 235 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: It means that it was either somebody that knew her 236 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: or somebody that was stalking her. She was an Instagram influencer. 237 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: She had tens of thousands of followers. She was a 238 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: beautiful young girl, so she had people that would potentially 239 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: be interested in her. That could be from all over 240 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: the world. But it's not very hard in the age 241 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: of the Internet to find out where somebody lives. It 242 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: tells me, I mean, yeah, someone could have seen her online. 243 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: That's absolutely a possibility. Beautiful, stunning, thousands of followers. But 244 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: it tells me that whoever that someone was did their 245 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: evil business and disposed of the body right there. They 246 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,119 Speaker 1: didn't take her far away, they didn't hold her hostage 247 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: and some underground bunker. They killed her right there. How 248 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: did she get naked? Where are her clothes? If she 249 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: were right right there on the scene, where are her clothes? 250 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Nancy, what she was confiding in her friends 251 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: that she was terrified, that she was terrified for her life. 252 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: She knew that she was in danger, and for her 253 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: to go out alone is just is frightening. Unless she 254 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: was going out to see somebody, maybe that she knew 255 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace breaking knees in the case 256 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: of instat influencer Alexis Sharkey, the twenty six year old 257 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: beauty that had Instagram fame. Her body found thrown on 258 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: the side of an obscure Houston area road. Take a 259 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: listen to our friend Steve Campion Katie r k TV thirteen, Houston. 260 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: I have no question in the core of my being 261 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: that there I just know. I mean, there's someone out 262 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: there that knows what happened. Alexis's mother, Stacy Robinal, spoke 263 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: with me about the devastating loss, saying at the center 264 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: of her being she believes her daughter was murdered. I 265 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: just I think they're still trying to piece that together. 266 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: It's it just feels so disjointed, and the way she 267 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: was found just I can't I can't wrap my brain 268 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: around what happened. And so no, I don't have any 269 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't have any good information at all, which is 270 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: which is very painful. Guys, you were hearing her mother. Now, 271 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: take a listen to Steve A. Champion at ktr KTV 272 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: thirteen arcutt too. We know homicide detectives they're looking at 273 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: surveillance video of cars going up and down this road 274 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: near I ten they're trying to figure out how a 275 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: body ended up in this brush. Now, it was Saturday 276 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: morning when a garbage truck driver he noticed feet coming 277 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: up from the bushes. He called this into nine one one. 278 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: For those of you just joining us, thank you for 279 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nation. In series one eleven, 280 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: in the last hours that we learned the cod cause 281 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: of death and insta influencer Alexis Sharkey's now we know 282 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: murder homicide. Straight back out to Joe Scott Morgan. The 283 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: location where her body was discarded tells me a lot. 284 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: The fact that she was naked and her clothes were 285 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: not there on the scene completely naked also tells me 286 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: a lot. Jump in. Yeah, you know, I was thinking 287 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: just a second ago, you and Ray have both used 288 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: the word several times thrown. I'd agree with that. Let 289 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: me throw in another adjective here. I'm gonna say frenzied. 290 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: And this is why in cases where we have bodies 291 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: that are found kind of sequestered or hidden away, that 292 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: takes time. Nancy, whoever did this, remember what they said 293 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: about the garbage workers. You know, when they were observing 294 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: this body. Initially they noted that they could literally see 295 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: feet feet from the roadway. It's not like they had 296 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: to go looking for them. This gives me an indication 297 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 1: that the individual that did this wanted to get as 298 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: much distance between them and the body in as short 299 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: a period of time as possible. This almost sounds like 300 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: this young woman could have been in the trunk. She 301 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: could even have been in the front seat. It would 302 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: have just required the individual to have opened the door 303 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: to the car, or open the trunk and push her out, 304 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: or drag her out and just drop her there. Hey, listen, Nancy, 305 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: Houston's a big place. There's even swamps around Houston. There's 306 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: wooded areas around Houston. But in this particular case, they 307 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: chose to go just the side of the roadway and 308 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: pull her body out and deposit it there, so that 309 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: just it could be you or I or any of 310 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: our listeners should drive them down the road and they're 311 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: literally going to see a body with the feet sticking out. 312 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: That's how little care was taken in this particular case. 313 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: You tube the word out of my mouth. J Scott Morgan. 314 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: I was about to say carelessly thrown, but the fact 315 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: that she was thrown, that she was discarded at another scene. 316 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: This would be at least the secondary or tertiary crime scene. 317 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't believe the murder happened there because her clothes 318 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: are not there. My point is, yes, she was carelessly 319 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: discarded on the side of the road, completely naked, but 320 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: she was discarded. Typically in a stranger to stranger attack, 321 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: the attack goes down and the perp runs. They don't 322 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: take time to move the body from one place to 323 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: another and throw it out in high bushes. That doesn't happen. 324 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: They flee the scene immediately. To Ray Kaputo, lead anchor 325 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: WDBO Ray, do we know if a rape kit was performed? 326 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know for sure. Nancy would I 327 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: have not heard anything about her being raped, and I 328 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: think that something like that we would have heard about before, 329 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: But I don't know. It seems like we would have. 330 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: But Nancy, I can almost positively guarantee you, based upon 331 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: what I know about the emmy in Houston, this is 332 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: standard protocol. They would have done a rape kit on her. 333 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: They would have done hair sampling on her. They're waiting 334 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: for this to come back. I can almost promise you 335 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: this that's what they're looking for. Further to further this 336 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: investigation relative to her. They're waiting on what the rape kit. 337 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: They're going to be waiting on the rape kit. Remember, 338 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: there's problems, there's problems all across the Let me ask 339 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: you to drop the questions, just brief cross exam questions. 340 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: Number one, would they necessarily have released the result from 341 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: the rape kit Jessica? Okay, she may have been raped 342 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: and we don't know about it yet. And number two, 343 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: I believe we've been waiting all this time for the 344 00:22:54,960 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: COD and MD because of toxicology issues. In other words, 345 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: did you od that in my mind was what we 346 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: were waiting on from my experience, correct me if you 347 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: have a different experience. But from all the cases I've 348 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: ever tried and investigated, you get a rape kit case 349 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: back pretty quickly. Toxicology takes a lot longer with a 350 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: rape case. You do a vaginal anal swaby, swab the 351 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: pubic are you swab the oral cavity, other areas of 352 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: the body. You can look under a microscope at the slab. 353 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: You take the Q tip, you rub it on a 354 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: piece of glass, you put it under a microscope, and 355 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: you see or don't see semen. Yeah, but what else? 356 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: What else? Are they. Yeah, you're absolutely right, and that's 357 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: very easy to do. The spermatozoa can actually be visualized 358 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: very easily. However, I have to say this, Nancy, they're 359 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: taking this a step what they're doing. If they have, 360 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: if they have a seminal sample on this individual, they're 361 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: going to be digging deep. They're gonna be looking for 362 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: a match on this That is going to take a 363 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: little bit longer. Still, Yes, I agree with you. To 364 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: get a DNA match on a potential part that does 365 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: take longer. But the rape can itself to determine whether 366 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: she had been raped. We would have known that in 367 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: three days. As a matter of fact, isn't it true 368 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan that once you look at the semen 369 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: under a microscope, depending on the degradation of the semen, 370 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: you could determine how long ago it was the rape occurred. 371 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: For instance, if the sperm is totally intact, it's been 372 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: within a twelve twenty four hours. After twenty four hours, 373 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: the tail comes off of the sperm. After longer the 374 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: head comes off. So you're looking at degraded sperm. You 375 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: can tell how long ago in certain cases the rape occurred. Yes, no, yes, 376 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: yes you can. I want you to take a listen 377 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: to what I believe may be a very significant clue. Now, 378 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: agree with Joe Scott Morgan. A significant clue would be 379 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: is their DNA? And another question, Joe Scott, what types 380 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: of experiments and tests have they done on her body? 381 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: Touch a DNA? What type of experiments and tests have 382 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: they done on her physical body? Joe Scott, Oh, my gosh, 383 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: there's any number of things. First off, you can look 384 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: for hair and skin samples, and think about this, Nancy, 385 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: where are you gonna look for those on the deceased? 386 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Where you're gonna look under her fingernails? We'll do what 387 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: I refer to this nails Manuel strange question. Yeah, in 388 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: her throat. We'll be looking for nails scrapings to see 389 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: what's underneath those nails. I can probably imagine that since 390 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: she's a social influencer and the way these people paint 391 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: up their nails and whatnot, they may have been easily 392 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: cracked broken that sort of thing. You're going to be 393 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: looking for this sort of thing. And also, as you know, Nancy, 394 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: I've been present many times when we've actually lifted fingerprints 395 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: off of bodies by superglue fuming. So they'll be looking 396 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: at fascinated with a superglue fuming process in a nutshell. 397 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: Explain it very it's there's not a lot to it. 398 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: And what occurs is that the body will be placed 399 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: on the autopsy table and we create what looks like 400 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: a clear tint okay, a plastic around the body, and 401 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: then a tray a little container of of of superglue 402 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: is actually placed on on a heater. It looks actually 403 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: like do you remember the old coffee mug warmers. We 404 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: can actually use that and heat up the superglue in there. 405 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: And as the superglue heats up, it actually turns in 406 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: to a fog. It's called fogging. And as it settles 407 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: back to Earth, or as it settles back down, as 408 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: gravity pulls it down, it comes to rest on the 409 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: body and then it marries up. The superglue marries up 410 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: with the oils that are deposited, the fatty lipids that 411 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: are left behind by the fingerprints onto the body, and 412 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: that fingerprint literally Nancy is locked in. It is amazing 413 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: with alternative turnative lighting, what detail you can see and 414 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: to you. Troy Slayton, veteran criminal defense attorney joining me 415 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: out of La Troy. Another issue is this if somebody 416 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: she knows has DNA on her or hair or fibers 417 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: from one of their outfits, it's just let's just imagine 418 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: one of those plaid lumberjack shirts. So let's just take 419 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: that for instance. Can easily match up fiber that may 420 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: be on her nails, on her body, and her hair 421 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: to that kind of shirt. Got to be careful because 422 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: just because there is fiber or here that may innocently 423 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: be on her body, it could be and obviously anyone 424 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: that would have normal lawful contact with her may have 425 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: her DNA or of hair, skin, clothing fibers on them, 426 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: so that might be completely normal. What I'm know, I'm 427 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: really interested in and what I would want to see 428 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: as a criminal defense attorney, is a full scrubbing of 429 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: her social media. This is a person who lived their 430 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: life online and was with their thousands of followers. That's 431 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: the type of person who's getting hundreds of messages a 432 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: day through their Instagram, through their other social media outlets. 433 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: So I want to know who she was talking with, 434 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: what kind of messages she was getting, what were the 435 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: private messages and direct messages that she was getting, because 436 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: that's what could provide the digital footprint to let us 437 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: know who was potentially looking at her, or after her 438 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: or threatening her. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. For those 439 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: of you just joining us, thank you for being with 440 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: us here at Fox Nation in series eleven. Many many 441 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: legal legals across the country have been waiting for the 442 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: toxicology and cause of death results in the case of 443 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: a twenty six year old Instagram influencer, Alexis Sharky. So 444 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: many clues we're looking at carefully in the wake of 445 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: that announcement cause of death homicide by strangulation. There is 446 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: one clue, one clue we need to take a look at. 447 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut eight. Houston Police spokesperson 448 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: speaking out. We are working on surveillance at this moment. 449 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: They one business that I does have some thank you. 450 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: We haven't looked at you, and we're still gathering information, 451 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: gathering video. It hasn't mean it's too long, so we're 452 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: thinking overnight video from a business near by. Straight back 453 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: out to w DBO lead anchor Ray Caputa, what can 454 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: you tell me about that video? I understand there's one 455 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: car in particular, they're looking at Oh yeah, and Nancy, 456 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't have the information on the video, I'm sorry, 457 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: but I do know that there is some information coming 458 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: from her friends and answer that that she was a 459 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: very scout one. There's a lot of details as to 460 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: why she was scared. You know what, You're absolutely right. 461 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut twelve, our friends at 462 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: crime online dot com. I have no question in the 463 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 1: core of my being that there I just, I mean, 464 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: there's someone out there that knows what happened. Alexis's mother, 465 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: Stacy Robino, spoke with me about the devastating loss, saying 466 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: at the center of her being she believes her daughter 467 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: was murdered. I just I think they're still trying to 468 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: piece that together. It's it just feels so disjointed, and 469 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: and the way she was found just I can't. I 470 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: can't wrap my brain around what happened. And so no, 471 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't have any I don't have any good information 472 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: at all, which is which is very painful. Actually, I'm 473 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: glad you played cutting number four. You were hearing Steve 474 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: Campion at KTRKTV thirteen discussing now the funeral of Alexis 475 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: Sharky straight back out to Ray Kaputo, I understand there 476 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: was actually a skirmish of sorts over control of Alexis's body. Yeah, Nancy, 477 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: there was it. I mean, it just goes to show 478 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: you that there's some some inflating right now. But it 479 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: was her mother had tried to get her body, I believe, 480 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: and that there was all the issues with it, you know, 481 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: and after somebody dies, in all the pain that they're 482 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: dealing with, it's like they can't even get closure because 483 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: the story is still ongoing. You know that it's going 484 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: to be a while before her mom is able to 485 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: sit down and digest the fact that her daughters do 486 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: wonder whether because of all this stuff that's happening right now, 487 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. Let's take another stab at at Jackie. Let's 488 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: go to our cut eleven. This is Steve Campion Katie 489 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: r K thirteen. There's two tales emerging this afternoon about 490 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: Alexis and Tom Sharkey's marriage. Friends who said it was 491 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: on the rocks, her husband who called it strong, telling 492 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: me Alexis was his life partner and they were not 493 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: filing for divorce. We've learned the nature of that marriage 494 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: is now part of hbd's investigation detectives working to learn 495 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: the truth. Straight out to Jeff Gardier, Doctor Jeff Gardier 496 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: joining us. He is the professor of behavioral Medicine at TRURO. 497 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: Why is it not just in this case, but in 498 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: every case where a woman goes missing or was found dead? 499 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: You look at the life partner, boyfriend, live in, ex boyfriend, 500 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: husband first, statistically, because that is the person that you 501 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: are having most contact with. And when we look at, 502 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: of course, when a woman is murdered, that the statistics 503 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: show that it may be an intimate situation in that 504 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: situation has been caused by the partner, the person they 505 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 1: are closest to, the person they have conflicts with. We 506 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: understand police are looking at surveillance video from a particular 507 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: business along the road where Alexis body was found. It's 508 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: a beauty salon. Sources telling us there is one car 509 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: spotted on that video. Now the question is who was 510 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: in the car? Straight out to Joe Scott Morgan, Professor 511 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: forensics at Jacksonville State University. We also know the body 512 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: was most likely dumped in the dark of night. How 513 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: much can they really see on that surveillance video? What 514 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: do you make of it, Joe Scott, Well, if they 515 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: can enhance the video to some degree, and there's any 516 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: number of agencies that can do that, particularly at the 517 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: federal level, but the Texas Rangers can do that as well. Nancy, 518 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: you know them very well. Do you mean by enhance well, 519 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: enhances that they can take that image? Remember, you know 520 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: all the CCTV videography that you and I have looked 521 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: at over the years is so very grainy most of 522 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 1: the time. A lot of it's going to be depended 523 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: upon the quality of the equipment that this particular store 524 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: has and how much of a time that they captured 525 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: that particular image passing before the lens of that camera. 526 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: If they can freeze that and get it to one 527 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: of these law enforcement agencies, they can do electronic digital 528 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: enhancement of the image, and they can actually freeze it, 529 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: kind of frame it out to an outline of it, 530 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: and there's a database that they can run this thing 531 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: through and try to capture within a reasonable scientifically scientific 532 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: likelihood of what model this car might be. Now, going 533 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: back to what doctor Jeff, you think they can at 534 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: least get the model. They could probably get it at 535 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: least the model and if you can pare that down. 536 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: Doctor Jeff had mentioned something kind of interesting just a 537 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: few moments ago in the fact that you're going to 538 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: look at the circle of intimates, and this becomes elementary 539 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: at this point in time. You look at the circle 540 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: of intimates, what type of vehicles did these individuals draw upon, 541 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: what did they use on a regular basis, And then 542 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: if you can correlate that between the image that you 543 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: catch on the street with these other vehicles, that there's 544 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: people in her circle drove, that's going to narrow this 545 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: thing down a bit. I mean, you think about it 546 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: like a triangle. You've got to figure out there's the apartment, 547 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: the body less than three miles away, and question mark 548 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: the purp it someone one that felt they had to 549 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: discard her body, dump her body from where it was 550 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: right immediately and quickly. Yeah, and think about this too, Nancy. 551 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: Remember even you said that this is kind of an 552 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: isolated area, even though it's next to it ten, which 553 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: is a huge, huge artery in our country. This is 554 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: kind of an isolated area. We have to begin to 555 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: think as investigators, well, who in the heck's gonna even 556 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: have knowledge of this area? When you say that I 557 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: always go back to Shasta and Dylan Granny in Cordelaine, Idaho. 558 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: They I mean, if you look at an aerial it's 559 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: nothing but green trees. There's an interstate and some perv 560 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: driving down the interstate sees Shasta at an above ground pool. 561 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: From the interstate, goes and lies in wait, takes Shasta 562 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: and her little brother Dylon, kills the whole rest of 563 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: the family also kills the Dylon before Shasta is saved. 564 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: So it does happen where someone spotted from the interstate. 565 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how likely that is, but you're absolutely right. 566 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: That throws a monkey wrench into the whole thing. So 567 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: we've got video of a vehicle Major, We've got potential 568 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 1: sperm Major, We've got potential DNA on her body, her 569 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: clothes gone, which tells me a lot about the mind 570 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: of the killer. Also, take a listen to our cut fourteen. 571 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: This is Khou eleven's Janelle Ludo. Alexis met so many 572 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 1: of her friends through Mona and her mini work trips. 573 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: I got that nice. That's where she also met Lauren. 574 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: She's grown to be such a good friend to me, 575 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: and I just can't believe she's gone, Lauren says before Houston, 576 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: Alexis once lived in Midland, Odessa and that's where she 577 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: met her husband Tom. She says the two moved a 578 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 1: Grand Junction, Colorado for about four months and twenty nineteen 579 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: and she absolutely loved it and just traveling and being 580 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: with her friends. You heard that Alexis worked for a 581 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: company named Mane at some point. It was alleged mine 582 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: was part of a pyramid scheme and that may have 583 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: had something to do with alexis death. Highly unlikely right now, 584 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: police on the case. We've got a cause of death, 585 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: a manner of death, but not the killer yet. We 586 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: wait as justice enfolds. Nancy Grace's crime story, signing off 587 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: goodbye friend,